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Episode · Dec 16, 2024

ATC: All Things Crypto w/Dave Kool & NatNat

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Dave Kool and NatNat hosted All Things Crypto live from Los Angeles, discussing the explosive bull market action across Bitcoin, NFTs, ordinals, AI agents, and emerging layer-2 ecosystems. Kool shared his strategy of following developers and founders on X, then mirroring their NFT purchases and PFP changes to get in early on high-conviction projects like Fuel, Vana, and Pudgy Penguins-related drops. Landy focused on Bitcoin price action, value hunting in ordinals and NFTs that had lagged the broader rally, and the mechanics of Pizza Pets. The group also touched on Pudgy Penguins' upcoming airdrop, the new Ripple RLUSD stablecoin launch, the SEC Wells notice issued to CyberKongs, and the absurdity of current drone/UFO news. They explored the rapid rise of AI agent-to-agent commerce on platforms like Virtuals. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

On the mic
DaveKoolLandyMetaBeast
Chapters
Show welcome, market chaos, and Samara's trolling
Bitcoin and altcoin market movements, ordinals, and NFTs heating up
Kool's strategy of following devs and founders to snipe early NFTs
Pudgy Penguins airdrop mechanics and Hyperliquid blueprint
Bitcoin technical levels, ordinal pullbacks, and value hunting
Evaluating legacy NFT projects like Alien Friends for long-term legs
Supply pressure from long-term holders and risks with influencer projects like VeeFriends
AI agents and Virtuals ecosystem performance
Pizza Pets mechanics, nurturing, breeding, and on-chain fee dynamics
SEC Wells notice to CyberKongs and potential implications
Drone and UFO sightings, government narratives, and staying focused on crypto
Michael Saylor and BlackRock Bitcoin accumulation
Ripple RLUSD stablecoin launch and XRP implications
Australian TikTok influencer kidnapping a Saudi royal for Bitcoin ransom
AI agent-to-agent commerce on Virtuals and future swarm potential
Transcript
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# ATC: All Things Crypto w/Dave Kool & NatNat | 2024-12-16 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1OwxWNQWQqDJQ | status: approved
# Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed.

[0:00:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Man, my life so sweet. I
[0:02:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Pets.
[0:03:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: LJ, what up, baby? That was good. Juncture, what up?
[0:03:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up, my boys?
[0:03:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is good, everybody? Welcome to ATC, all things crypto aka all things cooking, live from Los Angeles, California for the time being. I'm still headed back east. Me and Dev are going to Puerto Rico. Let's go, Dev. What's good, guys? Welcome. Happy Monday. Today is Monday. Man, there was just so much good. I literally didn't realize the time change. I was like... I was thinking, like, as I was putting out the post, I'm like, there's so much going on. Like, cool. I I probably spend at least forty five minutes just on your timeline alone. And I don't think we also... We haven't realized. Do y'all do y'all see how much Samara tweets throughout the day? Like, this is, like, the one time that I had... I could actually, like, really go through my timeline, and I'm like, I'm not gonna stop and bookmark every little fucking thing that I'm never gonna get to. Yo. Samara is king troll numero uno. Like, crazy, bro. I kinda love it. It's amazing. But, yeah, let's say what's up there, buddy. Yo. Cool. Let's go, bro.
[0:04:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Doing happy happy Monday. Happy New week. Great great great week. Great year. So let's get the show started, man. I'm excited. Let's go.
[0:04:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm gonna say with that, Landy, let me just tell you a quick little little little blurb that when we first started the show, I would bring NFTs into the conversation, and Cool's like, yeah. I don't really know. I don't really fucking... I don't really know nothing about no NFTs. Today, on his timeline,
[0:04:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: I just need these NFTs for this fucking bull run, and I'm good.
[0:04:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was like, just to show you how, like, you gotta be able to adjust out here, man. Lindy, what's good, bro?
[0:04:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm doing alright. Just taking care of some family as they're sick with the flu, but other than that, you know, I'm enjoying the market movements lately. They've been very, very kind, at least on the Bitcoin side of things. I know some alts are experiencing a little bit of turbulence, but the volatility is good. The trades have been good. NFTs are popping. Like, ordinals are getting some excitement back. You know, there's a lot of news coming out. There's all kinds of cool stuff happening, so I'm excited, man.
[0:05:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. Shit's going... Mean, everywhere I look, like, just everything is just going, like, nuts. You know what I mean? And I'm seeing some... Mean, I things that I've never... It's like, I'm watching... You know, I had certain positions in some of these virtuals. Right? Like, some of these AI agents and, like, you know, $600,000 in volume. And I'm thinking, oh, this is a play. You know? And then all of a sudden, I see a $92,000 buy come in, and I'm just like, holy shit. Like, this is... Like, unprecedented stuff, and I'm just like, wow. But listen. It's been profitable. Knock on wood. I haven't traded like this on a day to day basis in a really, really long time, but knock on wood, like, I hope... And I hope it's going great for everybody else also. There's just so much happening. Right? Like, cool. I just got done opening a fuel wallet and minting some of those. And I was saying to myself, wait a minute. Are these the... Like, because... Cool. I don't know if you know this, but they dropped an ordinal collection as well. But it wasn't the actual Bro Bears team that did it. It was like a knockoff. So, like, I initially bought it, and I was like, oh, fuck. Is this a knockoff? And then they confirmed it was a knockoff, so I I sold it for, like, whatever. Like, just pretty much breakeven. So when I saw what you were posting, was like, wait a minute. Is this the same fucking thing? But then I saw the price, and I was like, fuck it. I'm just gonna have been two or three of these things. Because if you're saying it, like, I'm hella bullish on fuel. I'm like, I have no clue what fuel network is. I'm in. I'm sold. Good stuff. Let's do market sentiment, guys. Like like, I wanna hear what you guys are looking at right now. Obviously, cool. Like, I saw that NFT comment. I was like, what the fuck is going on right now? The slots are killing it for you. Like, yeah, let's just kinda talk general market sentiment right now. Like, what are you guys doing, looking at, holding? Talk to me. Cool.
[0:07:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's... This... It's been a crazy couple of couple of week... I mean, weeks, man. The market is changing. Like I say, you kinda have to adjust first. I I don't like NFTs, but you don't have a I don't have a choice then to jump on the train when the trade train is leaving. So... But now I'm I'm I'm... Like I said, I'm I'm trying to... You know, as as long as you're you're buying the right ones, you're fine. But so what what I... What what I've done is this. And I'll I'll tell you how I... I've I've been able to find these NFTs. It's it's not luck. It's just it's not luck. It's not skill. It's just it's just being being informed. Right? It's just being informed. And so so you... Okay. The first thing you you you you have to do is you have to follow a lot of developers and founders. What I do is once I follow them, I go to their to their website and figure out who their team members are. I follow the team members too. So these team members, they normally tweet what they hold, what they buy. Immediately, they mention it, and if the collection, I'm a pin in, no questions asked. Right? I've been able to... Guys, was $11, man. It broke automatically today at over 8,000. That that... Look. I I I don't wanna keep giving example. There's so many of them like this where I got it at the beginning. And the reason why I got it early was because I saw the devs and the founders, you know, buying the NFTs, changing changing their PFP. Like, for example, like, I... I'm kinda mad at myself because I I didn't I didn't apply this strategy a year ago. Last year, I saw the founders of Layer Zero. Multiple of them, the devs, they're they're rocking the Penguin PSP. Almost every single dev on on the on the... From from LayerZero was rocking Penguins. I I I didn't... It didn't click in my brain, man. Last year, penguins was, like, under eat. It is a $135,000 today. Plus, they're gonna get the biggest airdrop probably ever tomorrow with Pengu. So it's just one of those things where, like, you... People see the signs, but they don't they don't put two and two together. So I've been going crazy with this shit. Right? The... Just as recently. Yeah. So so the so the few network then, that's what I did. I I I know few. I've been following few network for a long time. They are a layer two built on the... I think the the straight the straight language. And the reason why I... I'm... I know few network because the founders of few are also the founder... Founders of which is the NFT, whatever that hold. Right? So I saw the devs today buying NFTs. I'm like, yo. What's going on here? Just... It's... No question that I bought, like, a whole bunch. And the same thing with this another one called fuel pump. I saw the devs buying this stuff and using it as their PFP. I went to Discord. I saw the team members there. Same thing. Like, okay. I'm buying it. No questions asked. They took it they took it a snapshot two days ago. I'm probably gonna get a bunch of airdrops because of these moves, man. So it's like you you... They don't tell you. Right? They don't... They will never tell you. They don't... It... They... You know, I don't know what it is. I guess maybe they don't want their whatever whatever to get to get diluted. But the best thing you could do right right now is if you know of any projects as new that's coming out, just follow the devs and founders. Pay the... Pay attention to what they do. Immediately, they post anything. I'm in. I'm in from the beginning. Because because if I apply this strategy last year, I would have bought me a bunch of penguins, man. And now a one penguin is go... Is going is going to flip a punk. It's gonna happen because these guys have... They... I don't know. They have a lot of pool now, man. They've they've been off for three years, and they just keep growing and growing and growing. And it's just it's just a way for you guys to get in... Get into these things early. There's another one again today, Vanna. I got into Vanna a little bit early too. The mint price was $880, and it and it went from $80 to 3 Ethereum this morning. That's... I don't know how much that is, man. Like, over 20 something k for one from $80. Of course, it came back down again to, like, like, below the 8, but we got a airdrop today because from Vana, I worked, like, 8 to 9 k. Just one. I know people that have four. They are like, guys, it's it's crazy out there, man. You you just need to be able to get get in this shit early. And I don't have a Discord. I don't have Telegram. I post everything I do. So, hopefully, you guys are able to benefit from the moves I make, man. But, yeah, it's it's crazy out there, guys. Like, you... It's only gonna get work... I mean, work better, bigger, bigger and better because more than that is coming up. Guys, I don't even know what... I don't know I don't know where to start, man. There's there's so much going on. You have to just be up on game ASAP. Because if if you're not... You might... You you you you you miss that train, but there's still more trains coming. It's just so weird. Like, I'm just speaking of, like, just two, three projects. There's still the Bitcoin ecosystem. There's still Movement Labs coming. I like... It's it's... There's so much coming, bro. I can't even keep up, but I try to just keep my circle small. So I follow a lot a lot of devs in the modular l two ecosystem, you know, in a way. So whenever they tweet something, I see it firsthand, and I jump in it ASAP, man. So... Yeah. So... And and, Cole, I'm gonna come to you
[0:12:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: in a second, like, I really want everybody to really hear what Cole just said because I am someone who hates Discord. But if you pay attention to your timeline, the... This put... These... This Pengu this drop, right, that's coming up for the Pudgy Penguins, if you went in and claimed, like, a specific role in the Discord, you are gonna be eligible for this airdrop. And they're talking... Some of these airdrops are gonna be 6 figure airdrops for some people, literally. It's $45,000,000,000 air... Like, something crazy. And they're... And you know what they're mimicking it after? Hyperliquid. You guys have seen that thing just go up, up, up, up, up. So they figured out the blueprint. They see what's working. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But But it's like Cole said, they're not gonna tell you this shit outright. Right? Like, they wanna know who are the people, who are the ride or dies, and that's who the money goes to. But you just have to be ahead of the curve. But... Yeah. Cool. That's great insight, man. Really, really good insight. So even if you hate Discord, I fucking hate Discord. Not the fucking 100,000. I don't I don't hate it that much. Shit.
[0:13:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Give me that. That's crazy. Landy,
[0:13:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: talk to me, man. Thanks, cool. Landy, talk to me, man. Like like, what's going on, like, with the market for you? Are you kinda, like, sitting on your hands? Are you moving and shaking, trading? What's good?
[0:14:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've been trading specifically, you know, Bitcoin as as I do. Keep very close tabs on what's happening with Bitcoin as it affects the rest of the market. You know, I hit one of the key areas that I had been talking about for quite some time above the all time high at a $104,000, which on spot, it was a $104,000 even was the hard stop for the high. And above there, was looking around $10.06 to $10.08 and kinda $10.08 to one ten. Then there's a zone of interest between one ten and one twelve. It hit that one zero six last night. And then this morning, well, last night for me, and then this morning hit hit one zero eight. So we've kind of fulfilled some of the lower term time frame criteria to move up. It's a matter of maintaining that through, like, a weekly close to really start seeing, like, price really start to break out in an impulsive manner as many would say. And, you know, the etchings are there, and they've been there. So this was kind of an expected move if criteria was met to the upside, and it was. So I've been trading that. But what I'm really concentrating on is with every movement down in specific markets. For instance, in ordinals, they are not keeping up. A lot of other NFT collections on different chains have been running. They're taking a little bit of a break and pulling back now, but ordinals getting absolutely slaughtered left and right after, you know, some reasonable gains to the upside over the past week or two. So what I... What I'm doing is I'm going through the different major collections, especially because the Pizza Pet stuff has has brought some more eyes to the Ordinals ecosystem, and that hasn't even really started yet. And one of the things that I've looked at is, like, okay. What is dumping over there? Because now we're seeing people go to get liquidity. They're trying to do the math to go after Pizza Pets. So, you know, I'm looking at, like, okay. Puppets dumped out down to, you know, point one five four. Could it dump some further? Absolutely. But I felt like, hey. Let me get at least two more here. And then when it... If it dumps out further, I'll start sweeping really hard. Same with some of the other big collections. You know, we had a big run up in NF... In in in ETH project that came over to Bitcoin and the Fukuhedrons. Fukuhedrons, I think that's what it's called. Big, big move up. I I was fortunate enough to get in on that. I had I had already participated on the Eats side of things, so that was a nice little stimmy. But that thing ran up to, like, $2 worth of Bitcoin at one point. Offloaded a few of those, and this is this is kind of my strategy because the market's running. I don't wanna, like, get into projects that have moved in a really big way to have that. Know, they might still pop and, you know, they might even do a 10 x. But there's a lot of, like, thousand x, you know, 15 x's, 20 x's, like, here and there. You just have to be really good at navigating the different ecosystems like what you were doing with you and cool. Just what you just explained is, like, you're going and you're getting in on something that is new, undiscovered, and this is this is kind of just value proposition hunting for things that you have to understand might not hit, but you're taking the risk that you could make exponentially more on versus some of these things that have already played out very, very large moves to the upside. So that's mainly what I've been concentrating on. And I know, like, I get into some arguments, not always, because it's not worth having the arguments. But, you know, there's a few different shows that I go to specifically at night where they're all about memes. Right? And they're not into NFTs. They're not into ordinals. They kind of ignore that. They're very bearish on it. And I think if they're bearish on it, just like people were bearish on XRP, They were like, oh, it's never gonna do anything even in the bull market, and look what happened. It finally broke out and popped up in a big way. Right? That's where you have to look. And now we have UFOs and drones that people think are UFOs and aliens and radiation and all that stuff. So the memes are running in that in that regard. But the funny part about that is is they're actually having fun over in the XRP ecosystem because they've embraced what I've made fun of them about on this stage before, which is the whole five d Ascension Galactic Federation. They've embraced it, and they started to launch some meme coins that went up really, really quickly. So I've actually been participating in the ecosystem over there. I never thought I'd be saying this, by the way. So just about kind of understanding where to go, where to look, and and value hunt. This is the big thing. Value hunt, be in and out. Don't stress it. You're not holding these things through the bear markets. You're looking for where you can get good value proposition to the upside, what hasn't caught the heat, what might have a little bit of FUD right now, and that's where I'm looking and and staying in my lane. Also, pizza pets. Get some.
[0:19:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Pizza pets. Pizza... Me. Yeah. Me. Pizza pets. I was gonna make a Luigi joke right there. Probably wouldn't have been good timing. But... Yo.
[0:19:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: I own some Luigi.
[0:19:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. By the way. We had a baby eat some more. Recycle. I I did have a question for you guys. Right? So cool lady, like,
[0:19:35] Kool @koolcryptovc: either one.
[0:19:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? This morning, I was in a space, and you see some older NFT projects, right, that, excuse me, that back in the day were a name. Right? And I'll throw a name out to you guys. Alien friends. How do you determine if, like, that actually has legs? Right? Where it's like, alright. They're up a 100%. Are people now just looking for the next thing? Or do we think, like... I mean, I don't know. I I generally don't know if that community's been around for a minute. I haven't seen them much, but I'm just curious kinda what you guys think. Is it... Are are some of these potential traps, or do you think, like, those are pretty good buys?
[0:20:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. So I... So you guys realize. Right? The NFC collections have been down dead for a very, very, very, very long time. It's been a long time. And NFTs were the rage back then, well, four years ago. It's been a long time since we've had this new resurgence in in in NFTs. And I think it's just that... I think it's similar to what what happened what happened with with XRP where, you know, for the past three years, I've been in spaces. People saying, and it's a dead, never coming back. You guys are dumb. Why'd you buy that stuff? You guys are stupid. Right? So I think the same thing that XRP, it it it was down for so long that it was just a matter of time. I mean, of course, whenever there's money in the system, the money always finds the highest risk place. That's why meme coins pop off. That's why NFTs pop off. I just told you, penguins right now, one penguin is a $132 for one, and it's going to go up further because of everything happening. So if one, one collection is doing that well, it raises the the the the the... Every other collection on any... Or or on every other chain. So... And, of course, not all NFTs will pop off. Right? But the ones that have a community behind it, the ones that actually is trying to do something would do well, and the ones that are on active chains would do well also. But NFTs are outperforming everything. You guys don't realize how how crazy it's been for the past the past two weeks for me. I just think it's it's just because they were down for so long, for so much that it it was... It's time. It's time now because... And I think that they... There's also a new a new meta now, which is NFT for airdrops. I I don't think it's that's been around, but it seemed like it's taking up a lot more steam now because I think a lot of projects, they they are aligned with some NFT collection or they create one. So if you if you hold this NFT, you you qualify for multiple airdrops coming. So I think this is driving the narrative of of NFTs for airdrops. So which push you the price up for different NFTs. We we don't know which ones. Right? We we try to speculate. Right? Kinda... I told you how how to find these things, but I think that's what it is. They just... They've been done for so long that it finally finally waking up now.
[0:22:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff, Landy, and then I'll go say what's up to Peaches.
[0:22:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. With... Man. So because a lot of NFTs have been down for so long, one of the things is is existing... Or people who've held for a really long time are looking for pumps to sell into. So you do have to be very, very careful. Like, I'll give an example of v friends. V friends on ETH, had, you know, basically a doubling in price. They pumped up to 1.55 ETH. But when you look at where they were even in March 2023, they were trading at, like, $6.5.08 and higher for for some of the more rare ones. We are now starting to see that they're even trading up to, where the chart is showing 1.55 ETH or up to 2.53 ETH. This... The the thing... The problem is is there's so much supply side pressure for people who have held the entire time that they'll let this run, and then they will stomp it right back down. So you do have to be very, very careful. Narratives that can... You know, because Gary is now back and, like, talking about this stuff again, that has a short shelf life. So if... Wait. I I said
[0:24:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: I said v v v v... Gary v is back, are serious?
[0:24:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Well...
[0:24:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow. He's gotta run a... Great. I mean... And look. So there's certain people that love Gary. I I personally am not a fan myself. I've never been a fan. And part of it is a personality thing. And the other part is is that just about everything that he's ever pitched is a damn scam. Damn. Really? Like that? Yes. I'm I'm brutal when it comes to him. And and look. I've been on stage with people who, like, know him personally and, like, are friends with him, but I have... I'm not shy about my feelings about the guy. He's he's, I think, detrimental to just about everything that he gets involved in because not for himself, but for everybody that he's trying to hold.
[0:24:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: Let I have a quick a quick question for you. So when when did you come back to NFT? Because he was big around the the first cycle where we have NFTs. Right? So when did he come back? Wait. Just recently?
[0:25:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as we're breaking out, there's liquidity flowing. That's that's when he's gonna come back.
[0:25:09] Kool @koolcryptovc: So so so price price goes up, they they come back. Wow.
[0:25:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Of course. He's an opportunist. It's not like he... And and the funny part is is guarantee his team has gone in to to pump some of this up. Right? His friends and and the insider clicks that that are all of the known names that you can imagine. Right? Including, you know, the Paul brothers and stuff like that. You might remember that he pitched projects to them that failed, but, of course, they said they held bullshit. They didn't hold. We sell their wallets. Guys, I'm tired. Sorry, Landy. I'm tired. I'm going to sleep. Well, the the thing is is, like, these are not what I consider solid projects. These are these are influencer projects, and I'm not a big fan of influencer projects. When you look at Pudgy Penguins and why they're doing so well, and their token is doing fairly well right now, even with the fact that they gifted these these teams that were down and these projects that have been down and basically are just going to immediately exit, still gonna do well because of the way that they're handling supply and the way that they're doing these things. Now will it do long, well longer term? Who knows? But the Pungy Penguins thing is is pretty interesting to me because I wanna see how it goes for them. Because I think that, you know, they they have a lock on IP, and they've been doing it the right way for a long time. They've got a successful NFT collection. They've got a a successful collectibles, and retail, market. And now it's... Okay. How many people can realistically afford a Pudgy Penguin? Well, not a lot, quite frankly, especially now. But even at the time, was still expensive even when they were on the low. So, like, a normal, you know, person that's just got, you know, 500 to $1,000 isn't even getting in when it was at its lows, and Ethereum was down. But it's much easier, much more attractive for them to expand their audience using a token because now you can participate in that ecosystem by having the token. So I think that with their reach and visibility, even though they they were very kind to these other communities and their friends in the ecosystem in allocating these tokens, you know, that sell side pressure, if it can be picked up by the wider audience couldn't normally get exposure to the Pudgy Penguins NFT collection, they've now expanded their holder base. You know?
[0:27:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, they're listening on every major... I saw every every major exchange, like, literally today. Like, remember when Yeah. Remember when ApeCoin for... Was released? They had literally the top 20 exchanges from one to 20 lined up ready to go. So, yeah, I'm with that.
[0:27:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: And and the cool part about that is is we get to see how successful they are and where they have trouble. They are a good model. And and, you know, we've... They've learned from what, you know, the the ape crew has done with the entire ecosystem that has happened with all of the Bored Apes, and BYAC stuff. They've they've taken all this stuff in, and they formulated what they are going to do next. And, obviously, they're going to have issues here and there, but we get to learn from that as community members, as project and and founders and builders. And I think it's a good thing. I know some people are very against them launching the token and why are they doing it, and this is bullshit, and this is just a money grab. Well, guess what? When they fund liquidity pools on Meteora, they get to collect the fees. So they get some money in their pockets. They get a wider audience, and it doesn't... They don't need to go rug if they're making money off the liquidity pool, unlike... Talk to a girl who decided to make money in many different ways. Whether she was aware of this or not, seems like she was,
[0:28:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: but honest....
[0:28:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: On that thing. Right? But it's like, you know, we got... We have these projects that have been established for a long time, and then we have Gary Vee. And VeeFriend's basically doubling its price in just a couple of hours based on some talk that's going around. Yeah. Could it go further? Those kinds of things are the things that I look at and go, okay. If I'm gonna get in on this rise, which is abruptly stalled as of two hours ago, I'm going to... I I... Especially if it's an NFT, you gotta be very, very careful because it's not like there's liquidity and you can swap it for something else. There are some platforms that allow you to do this, but it... It's almost impossible if they don't have a liquidity pool. Right? And these don't. I'm not gonna get stuck into something like that. I'm gonna value hunt on something that has consistent volume. So if I'm in the... You know, if I'm in... If I'm on Magic Key and I'm looking at NFTs and I'm on Ethereum, I'm sorting by volume and what has the most volume. And that's, you know, your your Pudgy Penguins, your Little Pudgy's, your Azucis. You know, you're gonna have... There's many others still. You know, apes still trade there. Mutant apes still trade there. There's all kinds of stuff that consistently puts on volume every single day, and that's what I gravitate towards. It's the same in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Now granted, it's a little bit more wash trading when it comes to certain collections like no monks, which I will point out they wash trade the shit out of their collections. Now Bitcoin puppets and and OMB and stuff, that's the same thing. They still wash trade, but it's not to the the degree of some of the others. But if it's putting on volume, I'm gonna trade it, and I'm gonna take a look at it because that means at some point, I will at least have a vector for offloading that. Same goes for Solana ecosystem. There's a lot of great NFT collections in Solana that put on a ton of volume. MadLabs is always putting on volume very, very, very, very, very, expensive still. But then there's the d gods and the retardio cousins and, you know, all of the different collections there that consistently put on volume. And that's where I look. I don't look at the stuff like Gary Vee that's been literally dead for, like, the past year, And then all of a sudden, it pops up. And there's a lot of people now, guaranteed, that got trapped at the top there as of two hours ago. It's kinda nuts. Those those are just things... Lessons that you're gonna have to learn as you navigate, like, NFT ecosystems. But NFT ecosystems, in particular, always look at the volume day to day and look at their historical volume. That's gonna be your go to and then kinda go from there.
[0:31:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. I mean, we're watching, like, unicorns, decacorns, like, everywhere. So I'm with you on the volume. Also, as long as there is consistent volume as well. Right? It can't just be half a million one day and then 5,000 the next day. Right? There has to be... Like, average daily volume is the number that you genuinely want to look at. And I'll just tell you... And great great takes, guys. I'll just tell you from my perspective. Right? Obviously, like, I'm literally in... Mainly in the, the AI agentic world. A lot of, like, the... Like, a lot of the different virtuals. Right? I'm looking into them. Who does... Who is doing what? Right? Like, what's the market caps? I'm looking at liquidity pool. How much is here and there? And these things are... I mean, they're cooking, man. Like like, 40... One of them I was in is up 42% today. Another one is up 34% today. Another one up 32% today. And I'm taking profits along the whole fucking way. I don't care. Like, if this thing runs away from me, go nuts. Have fun. Enjoy. God bless. Right? And let's... I'll tell you this much. I think this recipe that virtuals has discovered of you have to use the virtual token to then swap out of every other virtual is like, now you act as your own l one. I can promise you that not only did Luca look at HyperLiquid and say, okay. We're gonna essentially distribute 50.1% of the total, of the total token supply so that people are ultimately gonna go stake. But he decide... He said, hold up a second. We're gonna start our own chain. The same way that it did with... Y'all remember what happened when ape chain ape chain... Yeah. Ape chain. Yeah. Yeah. When they launched their own fucking thing, it was like all these fucking ape NFTs went crazy. Every single one of the collections were going absolutely bonkers. So that... I don't know exactly what the formula is. I can't speak to that, but I see the writing on the wall where it's like... And so do these other founders where they're like, yo, Pengu token, abstract chain, let's fucking go. Like, that's the... That's that's what we need to do. And it's gonna be really interesting to see how all of this shit plays out, man. It really, really is. And, yeah, there's so much other stuff too, man. But... Cool. The other thing I wanna mention too is when I saw your tweet about the whole fuel networks, then you're like, yeah. Fuck it. Let me just, like... I'm gonna move some ETH over. Right? I'm open gonna up a fuel wallet, throw some ETH, whatever, a couple $100 over there. And I'm like, wait. How do I how do I move over to fuel? And then I'm looking through my bookmarks. Right? Like, because I Google stuff, but I don't trust Google half the time anyway. Skeptical motherfucker. And I remember that I have this one tool that swaps between, like, all these different, like, EVM layer twos and these obscure ones called LayerSwap. And I was like, oh, because you could swap from, like, exchanges as well from your wallet. And I was like, okay. This has fuel. Sweet. Super seamless, super easy, and super cheap. Guys, I'll put that I'll put that link in the in the comments and pin it to the top. Great resource. I remember I was using this for a minute, like, way back when when I was bridging to immutable. So cool. Yeah. I appreciate that. Yeah, man. That's like... There's there's so much cooking out here. Anything else you guys are looking at market wise? Because I feel like this is the shit that people generally want to know and hear about is, like, what are the moves we're making? What are we watching? Where are we spending our time? Because this is literally what we do... What we're doing all fucking day. Yeah. And and and as I'm looking through this... Oh, let's talk p... You wanna talk pizza pets? I don't know if anybody... Hey. We got two pizza ninjas in here. Shout out to Norbert and Dev. We could talk pizza pets. Cool. You got some pizza pets or what?
[0:34:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No. No. No. I don't have... I I have a couple of bit... Bit... Of synergies, but not not... I'm not too exposed to that. No.
[0:35:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. We don't gotta spend too much time on it. But, if you have time, go to Magic Eden and check out Pizza Pets. The longer, the short of it is there's 11 different variations of these eggs. And you're... It's like Tamagotchi. Right? Like, you have to kinda nurture it and and, like, essentially, make sure that it grows up. And if you can get one of each of the 11 different types to actually make it through the whole thing and actually grow up to an adult without fucking killing it. Right? Remember to feed it and clean it and whatever, then you are gonna have the ability to breed your own pizza pets. So now you are the one. So, essentially, you become the bank. It's like, you are the deployer at that point. You get to say, oh, now I have the ability to control. I don't know what they're gonna put supply limits on it, but just having that ability makes your fucking... Like, makes everything that is sitting in your wallet, all of those, like, adult pizza pets massively, massively valuable. Now to be clear, what we came... The consensus we came to in the last space was even if you go out and buy, like, one year... Because they're, like, I don't know, $40.50 bucks right now. Even if you go out and get one one or two, you spend 50 to $100. Right? And make sure that you see those those two through to the end. You might not have the 11 in order for you to breed to breed, but do we think every person's gonna have the 11? What if I have seven and Landy has two and you have the other two? Right? So there's so many different mechanics with this. I really love what they did. Like, it's really, really fucking cool. If you guys have a chance, go check them out. Magic Eden, the pizza pets. It's really, really fun. And then the... I'll I'll put the link to the actual site where you get to go feed them and and all this other this other stuff. It's pizzapets.fun. Oh my god. I'm looking at mine right now. I'm like, god. Damn. These motherfuckers look crazy. What the fuck? Foaming at the mouth and shit. Landy, any... Anything to add that I maybe missed on that or anything that you wanna highlight for for some peeps?
[0:37:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not not too much. I mean, you know, I got quite a few of them. I was very lucky with one of them that I got. But I'm still, like... You know, everybody's still trying to figure out, like, the best path to, you know, basically, once the game really starts... Because I don't think, if I'm not mistaken, you can't actually do anything with the website right now, if I'm not mistaken. Right? Still down?
[0:37:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nothing. Yeah.
[0:37:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So, you know, it's every eight hours, I think, is something that is kinda lost on people. I think they're thinking in a twenty four hour clock. It's every eight hours that their health ticks down. So you do need to make... Maintain them, you know, pretty much once a day. We'll get you through in the twenty four hour period, but you're gonna be kinda pushing the wire, with some of these things. Make sure you have enough for the fees. Use their website so that you can bulk do the tasks. And then I actually did start to utilize some of the posts, the the common post that you were using with Juni to to tell her, like, what... That one post that you found, kind of what what the breakdown was for each item and, like, that kind of stuff. And I was trying to have it spec out, like, different scenarios for for utilizing my SATs correctly because it's gonna become a battle of sets on the network as network fees rise and fall. So there's gonna be periods where as soon as network fees on the network come down, people are gonna start rushing to try and get their their pizza pets in the mempool at lower stats. And then what's gonna end up happening is that's gonna raise the stats for that block, and it's gonna start pushing them down the line. So you don't wanna push it right on to the wire. Each pizza pet has three hearts, so you wanna make sure that you are getting ahead of it, basically. So you've got... You've you've got twenty four hours. Right? Don't wait until the last, you know, heart to get your your pizza pets in the mempool because it's possible that they just get pushed down the line in the mempool if your fees are set too low. And that's where you're gonna start seeing a battle for accelerating and, like, all this other stuff, which is gonna, I think, gonna be a fun little game in and of itself just on the chain. And I think that it's gonna bring a lot to the Orinals ecosystem in that regard. So if you do have any, you know, and you're not gonna take care of them, my best advice is is don't let them die because they won't be worth anything. You might as well just list them and have somebody else buy them. You know, they're, like, $40 now. They dipped quite a bit. What are they at now? Actually, let me look. For for Bitcoin, I mean, Bitcoin's at a 105,800, almost $106,000. So what are these going for at the moment?
[0:40:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, their floor is about 50. Is it $50?
[0:40:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nope. It's 40. It's $38.86 on the floor, but then it very quickly rises into $40 and and above, depending on if you wanna sweep. So if you're not... If you're absolutely not gonna participate and you do have it in your wallet, you might as well not just let it die. You might as well get something for it while you can. Totally not just gonna be waiting to snipe all the fat fingers, but, yeah, you know, there's that too. Not playing mind games. Just like if you're not gonna play the game, you might wanna get something for it in Bitcoin.
[0:40:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And if and if if y'all are doing that and let's say you're short on some gas fees or you need some Bitcoin or whatever, don't let it die because of that. Like, hit me up. I'll gladly give you fucking $510. Because I know sometimes I used to do that shit, and I'm like, oh, man. I hit the max button all the time, and then I find myself short. And I'm like, fuck. So if you guys are doing that, right, and it's like, don't... Just don't get caught without gas fees at least. You know? Like... Yeah. Be And involved in the game because I think you'll realize, like, how valuable, like, what you're doing or or, like, how valuable, like, what you can do, like, really truly can be. So, yeah, definitely give it a shot. Okay. What else? Oh my god. There was so much shit on the timeline today, man. There was so much other stuff. Let me see. I'm just gonna scroll through it because I know there was a lot, a lot, a lot. AI framework, tech screener,. Yeah, man. Everything. Oh, and cool. To your point, wanted to make this point from before. Every single person that I'm talking to now in either the virtual ecosystem or any in the agent... Like, the AI agent world, every fucking person has a Pudgy Penguin PFP to your point before. Every single one, bro. Like, these are... Like, and that's how you can tell now. Like, these are the guys that are out here fucking the base fucking devs that are out here running shit, man. For real.
[0:42:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. It's it's information they share amongst themselves because they they... It's it's like they know what the game plan is. Because it just doesn't make any sense to me. Like, how how could you guys know to own a penguin, that many of them, a year in advance? And next, you know, a year later, this thing's... It's it's about to crack a 150 k. Plus, they probably get it. I I follow one... Andy, he's he's, I guess, the founder. He he host a a podcast for Celeste or whatever. So he has a penguin in his slot too, but he's just saying that, basically, they're probably gonna get a $100,000 per per per NFT holder, a 100 k or more of of Pengu talking tomorrow. So, I mean, like I say, it's where it's where the game is, man. I think it's just... Like I said, I I I don't wanna say it's a cabal. I I would say that it's just... They just know which NFT they want to they want to make the the the the prem... The premier NFT. And... But like I said, it's so good. I think there's still other plays out there, not just with NFTs, but get it early, man, in this project. It's not it's not easy, but it's possible. You just need to follow the right people, man. That's that's what I've been doing all this time, and I always... Most of the time, I'll always cast the the lightning most of the time.
[0:43:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Yo, peaches. What's good, bro?
[0:43:25] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Yeah. I'm okay. Jim, Jim, man. Can you hear me?
[0:43:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We got you, my brother.
[0:43:30] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Alright. Let's go, man. Jim, everyone. Yeah. Cool. What's up, man? Randy, how are you doing? Everyone in the space here. Yeah. I see my guy, Leo, there in the listener section. So let's go. May... About the the NFT Penguin. Man, there is this project. I... We're actually farming on Telegram. Right? The project name is Pizzovest. Mainly, these guys, they have a lot of NFTs like... Well, they have their own ecosystem, but they are they are they are trying to build on TON layer two projects on TON, but it's a project on Ethereum. Right? So they're in partnership with this particular project, this Penguin guys. Right? So... And they have... It's just like if I... They have a, like, a a web fighting project game like that, and they also have also on the telegram. Right? And they have this this penguin as one of their fighters. Right? And the partnership was, like, secure, like like like, five months ago. So, like, I was like, maybe, you know, these these fighters can be converted to NFT. You never know because they have their own echoes, their own metaverse that they are also building. You know? And recently, they're like, man, you guys have to come back and start fighting and stuff like that, but you never know. So, like, when I I started seeing this whole penguin on the tier, I was like, man, maybe these guys are trying to make this fighter because before you to get this this fighters on the top game, man, you have to, like, grind a lot, man, for real. You need to, like, accumulate a lot of points for you to, like, get those fighters. And these these fighters are quite expensive in the game because you need to, like, farm a lot before you get it. So you never know. So for me, recently, I mean, I had I had to jump on on some trading skills and stuff. I actually do one of profane challenge. Right? And recently, I'm, like, on their phase one challenge. Right? And I'm already doing great, you know, so I'm just taking my time, making sure I I need to get this account because it's a $1,000,000 account. Right? So passing their fees, so for sure, I'm going to get this account. And sure, I'm going to be trading on it, you know, and this is what's really... Someone who wants to trade. Right? You... It's very good for you to have a good account that can give you that flexibility around the market. So this is what I'm doing with you lately. I'm not actually in the... More on the crypto space because I need to, like, do much deal, TA on the currency pairs and, you know, and some macro stuff. So that's what I'm up to, man. Let's go.
[0:46:12] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Man, I hope you guys heard me, though.
[0:46:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. We heard you. I just didn't know if there was a question, Peach. Did you have a question for Landy?
[0:46:19] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: No. I never had... I like... I was just like... Yeah. I was just saying what I'm what I'm up to lately, though. I hope I was well copy. Let's go, man.
[0:46:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. You... No. No. You you came through. You came through a 100%. I heard you.
[0:46:30] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Let's go, man. Let's go.
[0:46:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, my bro. Good stuff. Guys, there's there's been some other big news. Right? Y'all y'all remember... Speaking on the NFT side, y'all remember CyberKongs from 2021. CyberKongs today was issued with a Wells notice from the SEC. Excuse me. I don't know what the hell is going on out here. UFOs fucking, like, selling off pieces of the wall, like, for peanuts at auction. I don't know if this... Joe Biden is... Some people say Joe Biden is dead. Like like, I genuinely... You know, when you guys hear cool be like, he's like, I'm so desensitized. I don't even give a fuck anymore. I'm kinda... I I kinda catching up to that now. Like, what in the fuck is going on right now? Like, are they... They're still doing this. Like, they issued cyber gun. Like, oh, you can't do this. Well, issuing a game. I'll do it. It's like, bro, you're still gonna try and, like, go after these guys right now. Like, just bow out gracefully, Gonsler. But if you if you all remember, CyberKongs was... They were powerhouse back in the day, and they still are, like like, to some degree. But they were, like... Talk about Kabal. Like, CyberKongs was, that was the NFT to hold. Like, they were moving markets heavy. What do you guys make of this story? Like, when it comes to is get... Like, I I guess just the overall sentiment of, like, is something bigger at play here?
[0:47:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Man. Alright, Dave. Cool. With the CyberKong's crew, I'm wondering if they had a heads up that this was coming. Because maybe you don't know this, but they were behind the decentralized project and Rune on Prometheans, which became decentralized, which was the Rune on layer one. And they, CTO ed that project out after...
[0:48:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: It went to shit. They took a snapshot. Right? It went to garbage.
[0:48:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I mean, everything did after the runes were released. Almost every single... I mean, the Prometheans were just a vector to get runes, and they they did a free airdrop of these Prometheans, which traded right alongside essentially right around the price of rune stones for a while, almost up to, like, $5,000 in Bitcoin. And, uh-oh, who did drop off? I was wondering why we didn't hear from. But they were behind the Prometheans, became decentralized. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, you know, they did this rune mint where you could utilize the runes to mint these ordinals. And it went okay. It didn't do great. They they ended up being very high priced for a little while. But the crazy thing is is they they essentially abandoned this thing kinda midway through and CTO ed it. And part of me wonders now if they had already gotten notice that they were gonna be served with a Wells notice a while back. Because these things don't usually just, like, crop up just... And pop up out of nowhere. Right? Like, it's... You you hear the rumblings. Right? You start hearing the talk, especially when you're that high level and you're you're you're moving that amount of money around in crypto, you're gonna hear about the SEC sniffing around either through, back channels or directly. And I'm wondering if this was part of that. It was like... And now that they've gotten served with the Wells notice, like, are they going to be hiring some of these top tier firms that have been helping out? And what is this... What kind of an effect is this gonna have on their... The... On the CyberKongs themselves? Right? So this is this is really interesting. And, honestly, I think it's going to be a big nonstarter for the SEC. Like, why start this right before the Trump administration comes in? Like, this makes no sense. They're just gonna come in and axe it. So what is the real play here? And I guess, you know, the funny part about that is, there's only been two sales in the past twenty four hours for CyberKongs. But I'm wondering if this will actually have a net positive effect, like, suppress things and kinda beat them up a little bit. And then, and then all of a sudden, this has a has a rebound. So I've actually been keeping a close eye on their their collections and derivatives on Ethereum just because, hey. Maybe people get scared out of their positions and drop some of these rares. Maybe I can snipe some up because I don't see this lasting. I think this is complete nonsense. Joe Biden is not obviously in charge. Gary and his crew, because this likely isn't even coming from Gary, they're just... You know, they're spamming out Wells notices before they go just to cause chaos, in my opinion. Maybe they're in on it. Maybe they're sweeping the floors of the things that they serve Wells notices too for when they get out of their positions when they're eventually axed. Who knows? I think it's nuts. I... I'm curious to hear your thoughts and Cole's thoughts on it.
[0:51:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I don't... I mean, I really don't know, to be honest, man. Like, it's so bro, I I literally feel like... Hold on. Sorry, Cole. Let me just throw you the coast. I literally feel like Cole, where I'm just like, I don't trust nobody anymore. Like, I'm looking over my shoulder all paranoid and shit. Who is somebody watching me? Like, what's going on? I don't trust the media. Oh, like, there's UFOs outside, they're saying. The government doesn't know what they are. What the hell is going... Like, what are we talking about out here? Like, and now we're... Like, I don't know. I'm genuinely confused. Like, truly, I'm fucking confused. I don't know which way is up right now when it comes to this shit. To be honest, I don't give a fuck. Like, it doesn't affect my day to day. Like, I'm zoned in right now, so it... And sorry for that. That's a little selfish, guys. But it is what it is. Sometimes you gotta, you know, you gotta walk on your own a little bit. But, like, I I really don't. Cool. I I don't know if you're... We were talking about, obviously, cybercoms or whatever. And and, like, there's UFOs outside, so I'm literally, like... And and the government's saying they don't know what it is. How those three relate, I have no fucking clue. I was just like, I don't believe shit right now. I'm trying to stay in my own lane in my own bubble. What are you making of this shit?
[0:52:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. You're you're do... You're doing the the right thing, man. I mean, I think we we need to focus on what's important to us directly. I don't think... There's just too much going on in the market, man. Like, people are making money left and right. Why why would I care about what's going on in New York or New Jersey with some freaking alien... Bro. There's so much going on right now. Like, life life changing events happening every single day in crypto, and you do not wanna get distracted by what someone else is doing somewhere else. Like, of course, it sounds selfish, but this industry is too is too fast, man. It's just too fast not to be plugged in. If you're not, you're gonna just miss out on opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. That's how this game is played, man. So I don't... Well, like I said, guys, when I I follow a lot of people that drop off, that they normally, you know, hold value, I don't see what you guys see. I don't I don't... All I see in my timeline is airdrops, NFTs, money making. I see nothing else on my timeline. I think the the the algorithm knows what I wanna see, and it shows me that I don't know anything. I think the only time I get to know when I when I see a chief from Elon Musk, I go to his page and see what's kinda what's going on. And Elon Musk is my news outlet, man. I go to his page and find out news, and I don't move on. But most of the time, I don't see anything. All I see is just projects and devs and and stuff like that. So I'm I'm pretty plugged in, man. I'm pretty plugged in.
[0:54:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: So do do we think that... I mean, we... Like, it's... Elon's had noticeable absence. Right? Like, he has not said a word about... I mean, this is the man that literally launches fucking rocket ships into space and sends them to Mars. He hasn't said a word on Twitter about any of this shit. No.
[0:54:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: He he he has. He has. He he He did? It it kinda... Like like like like a troll. Right? Put a... Kinda making fun of the whole thing, like a like a drone type thing with Iran or whatever, but I I I I think they just... There's a lot of noise right now. Possibly, they believe that that they want to instigate a war with Iran. That's what all this stuff is about. I have no idea, man. Just... There's a lot of noise online, but I can't stress over where I I can't control, man. So you just... I I don't know. I know we'll see, man. We'll see. Only time... Like, guys, only time tells with stuff. In time, we'll see what... What's going on. But if... I don't know. I I don't... I can't control this stuff, man. I I just I just... I do me, man, and and whatever happens happens. Right? I mean...
[0:55:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, it's funny because we know for a fact that it's based on... There was... One of the accounts tracked down the actual manufacturers of the drones, and they're they're US defense contractors that build these particular drones that are being identified. And it's one of the... Like, Trump has come out and said, like, we absolutely know what this is, and why aren't we just doing something about it kinda thing. Like, basically, like, come on. This is nonsense. And, you know, could it have, like, the Iran angle and, like, all this other stuff? Like, oh, we had we had a a... What was it? The ship that that was off the East Coast, and they're the ones that launched the drones. And, like, you know, know, then you've got XRP army going, it's the aliens. It's the Galactic Federation. They're here. And then you've got people trolling and sending up their own drones and trolling neighbors. That's Landy, by the way. I was doing that. It was fun. But, yeah, like, it's... People don't care anymore. I think the entirety of The US population is just kinda... There's people who care, but they only care ironically because they're gonna get views on TikTok and, like, Instagram and and x. But other than that, everybody's just kinda going on about their daily lives. Like, yeah, whatever. It's above us. Maybe it's a... Maybe they're pushing for, you know, some sort of aggregated registration for this stuff so that only the Amazon... You know, there's all kinds of weird conspiracy theories about, like, well, they want it they want it so that only Amazon and these other companies will be able to fly drones or the US government will only be able to fly drones instead of having personal drones. And there's the bill in congress that's attached to the UAP bill about drones and, like, regulation and this and that. It's like, realistically, they're not gonna do any of that stuff right now. And Trump seems like this is just an annoying thing, so figure it out. You've got, you know, the Internet salutes going crazy. You've got meme coins being launched on the back of it. By the way, if you're in drones, the drone sticker has been doing great. I've been having fun with that one, by the way. But, like, that's just a lot of degen play. But, you know
[0:57:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, listen to this. Listen to this. You ready? So I I have the... I pinned this to the top. New York police recovered a massive drone abandoned in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. This is where I grew up now. Right? A video shows an NYPD... This is a whole video. An NYPD officer holding the large aircraft, which appears to measure over five feet in diameter. Officers found the drone on a sidewalk after responding to an email tip. During the investigation, a passerby mentioned working in the building housing the drone's manufacturer, Amaji Inc. Amaji CEO, Seongun Wu, later confirmed the drone belonged to the company, but explained it had been left on the sidewalk after a company Christmas party about a month ago. This comes amid reports of thousands of unidentified drone sightings along the East Coast and others. Oh, shit. That's where I left that thing a month ago. Man, I'm a kill Bobby in the county, man. He's always messing around. Let me get that drone back, man. I can't believe it's still here. After a month, no shit.
[0:58:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's like a $20,000 drone just sitting on that sidewalk, maybe even more.
[0:58:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see the you see the video?
[0:58:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Landy, this thing's bigger than the than three of the officers.
[0:58:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dude, this thing's like five... I could ride this thing. I could I could go from East Coast to West Coast overnight in this thing, man.
[0:58:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wee. Wee.
[0:59:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Do you see this shit? Like... Oh Oh, we lost out a month ago, but thanks for reading it back, man.
[0:59:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dude, that's insane. It's like... And and my favorite thing is is, like, wouldn't this be the perfect time to do some advertisement? Maybe this was the play. It's just leave it on the ground. Now this is great. Look at how cool this drone is. This is, like, just free advertisement. I have NYPD go pick it up and put it all over the Internet, and now hear your company's on the map for this cool ass drone. Because this thing is kind of bonkers looking. I like this thing. But you could lift up... You could snatch people up in this freaking thing. Holy crap. Y'all gotta go look at this. This is nuts. I I kinda love this. Anybody see the the the actual... The real post of the drones, you know, with the with the possibly gun or nozzle on the front? Because if you haven't seen that one, that one's hilarious and is my favorite meme out of this entire situation.
[1:00:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you see the Star Wars one? Somebody's like, in New Jersey on the back of a trailer, and it was literally, like, a replica of the star... Like, one of the Star Wars fighters. I was just like Oh, it's great.
[1:00:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Now it's just ridiculous. But, like, yo, cool. This is like... Yeah.
[1:00:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are y'all realizing, like, what's happening here? Like, literally, everything cool has told us for the last six months. We're now starting to realize and be like, these lie... These motherfuckers, like, they don't even give a fuck anymore. This is an official statement, Cool. Yeah, man. They don't they
[1:00:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: don't care. I mean, is this... They they openly lies to to to the people. They openly, you know, just twist stories around and spread fear. Like, no, Joe. I think there was a senator that that came out and said he described the drone... Drones as some alien warship mothership from Iran. Actual senator. No joke, man. So these people are trying to spare some fear, but like I said before, right, I I don't... You you need to focus on what what gives you value. And I... Like I said, you can't stress over over what you can't control. So I can't control... I can't I can't I can't control.
[1:01:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Come. Come. Come. Come. Wait. What?
[1:01:13] Voice F: I want to say something to
[1:01:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: you. Oh, you wanna say... What you wanna say?
[1:01:15] Voice F: I learned about the drone thing.
[1:01:17] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: What are
[1:01:17] Voice F: talking about?
[1:01:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: What drone thing?
[1:01:20] Voice F: That's bingo y'all, like, play... Places in The USA.
[1:01:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: Okay. Come. My son said he knows about the drone stuff, so he let me... He wants to talk. I I... Okay. Let's talk.
[1:01:30] Voice F: The senator that my dad is talking about, he said that people thought it was a alien thing. Well, what actually happened was a senator said... I don't know the name. The senator said that he... It was a ship... Mother ship in the ocean coming from Russia made in China that was sending drones to spy on The USA so they won't do anything bad like China and Russia to keep them safe.
[1:02:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where where did you get that from?
[1:02:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: I didn't
[1:02:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: tell you that. School.
[1:02:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Okay. So my boy's school... Kara, go basketball.
[1:02:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. Wait. Can I can I ask him if he believe? Does he believe that cool?
[1:02:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Of course not, man. He's he's he's a crypto kid, man. This guy's been buying buying... Eat eat eat to meet the $300.
[1:02:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's a
[1:02:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: crypto kid.
[1:02:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I love that. What? Oh my god. That's great.
[1:02:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[1:02:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn senators. I wonder if he thinks Joe Biden is the real Joe Biden. Now we can get... We could do that another time. It's fine.
[1:02:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's Jim Carrey in a mask. Remember? He's a... See how tall he is? He's the exact height of Jim Carrey sometimes. Other times, he's short like me.
[1:02:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: And he's short like me. Five one and a half and a quarter. You lost a quarter you lost a quarter inch. Guys, Michael Saylor bought some more fuck... Sorry. Bought some more Bitcoin. Again. Again.
[1:03:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Steady buying those tops.
[1:03:07] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: He doesn't care. It's just more
[1:03:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: like... Do
[1:03:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: we see a problem with this at this point now?
[1:03:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. I do not. More. Because if he ever has to distribute, we'll finally get Bitcoin to normal people.
[1:03:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, BlackRock now officially owns two and a half percent of the Bitcoin supply.
[1:03:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Their their investors own two and a half percent of the Bitcoin supply.
[1:03:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tomatoes and auto.
[1:03:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know that they're... It's not like they can put a representative from BlackRock on the board of Bitcoin, though. So it's like, good luck. They'll just keep putting their representatives on the board of miners. That's the thing. And that's where, you know, this is gonna... It's funny that you bring that up just to ingest, which is interesting because with Trump wanting to bring... You know, make, you know, Bitcoin great again, right, and bring it to America and and have this be the hub for mining and for crypto building and innovation in general, you're gonna see BlackRock just worm their tentacles into every company because they will... They'll just... They'll get their... They'll utilize the liquidity from, you know, the the portfolios that they manage to buy up a large portion of these companies. They'll place their own representative on the board of those companies to direct the the overall direction of them. And that's where things are gonna kinda get dicey, I think, under the Trump administration and where people in crypto are gonna get very, very sore butts.
[1:04:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You just said sore butts.
[1:04:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Butthurt. You know? Sore butts.
[1:04:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sore butts. That's just sound... I don't know. Maybe this may just sound too funny.
[1:04:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Butt sores. Oh, no. Butt sores. Oh, my god.
[1:04:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop. No. No. At least alpha game is not here. That would have been worse.
[1:04:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, less. Sailor buying more Bitcoin. Another 15,000. It is what it is. Let's talk about Ripple. XRP, Quantum Financial System. No. Tomorrow, Ripple launches RLUSD. It is the official launch of the Ripple stablecoin, and they tweeted out today the wait is over. Yeah. Because everybody's been waiting on this one for a minute. Ripple is making waves yet again announcing the launch of its much anticipated enterprise grade stablecoin, Ripple USD, RLUSD. Now according to the announcement, RLUSD promises to cater to institutional needs and set new standards for trust and reliability within the stablecoin market. Still going to be backed by treasury assets from the the the federal government. Yay. At least we have a better government in there now, so hopefully, we we can figure this whole thing out. It But says the timing of this launch aligns with increasing calls for regulatory clarity in The United States and beyond. Ripple's decision to develop RLUSD under the stringent New York Department of Financial Services limited purpose trust charter highlights its emphasis on regulatory compliance. RLUSD is backed by US dollar deposits, government bonds, and cash equivalents, and is engineered to maintain stability. So my question to you guys is,
[1:06:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: we have USDT. Is USDT becoming... I don't wanna say too big to fail. Right? Because, I mean, there's always gonna be need for stables. Do we like this now for XRP? Is this bullish? Am I going out and aping into more x r... I I never had a bag of XRP to begin with, actually. Yeah. Cool. Am I going to buy some more x r p? Bullish? $10... I mean, thousand dollars... $10,000 x r p?
[1:06:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I don't I don't know about that, but it's gonna do well, XRP is gonna do well. It's just... The hype is crazy, man. This is basically... It'll be the blockchain or for for big money bags and institutions that... As as all this stuff is. Right? You're you're not gonna see us, Djens, using their stablecoin like like we do USDC or USDC or USDT. Yeah. Like, I don't have too much to say about this, man. I think it... It's gonna do well. I can't I can't... Because the reason why it it does well is because they have the approval of the of the US government. And that's... Let me just start. They're launching in New York, and one of the hardest places to get anything done is extremely impossible for a protocol or any business to to get going in New York, and they have approval there. It's... They'll do well. They'll be fine. They'll be for sure.
[1:07:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Lynn, do you wanna chime in on this one? If not, I got an amazing story next. This is so good.
[1:07:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: One thing that I will say about this as a long time involuntary holder for some period of that time of XRP, you know, I'm I'm looking at this as having, you know, some measurable effect on price of XRP. It's going to be utilized by likely smaller banking institutions at first or some institutional players. The thing is, when you think about it, you know, the XRP token can theoretically carry $10,000. If the XRP token were to get prohibitively expensive and I wanna transfer a $100,000, I would rather use traditional systems because it would be cheaper, right, to do that transfer. I might have to wait longer, but if it's gonna save me a little bit of money, it's more about, like, time to get that in your wallet at that point. That's one of the reasons why they have this this, why they manage the supply the way they do. And while this is a good thing for Ripple and XRP and its progress and it's exciting for the for the ecosystem there, I don't like the goal of those in XRP as the CBDC outlook. So that is where I have my misgivings. Does that mean I'm gonna go and dump all of my XRP that I've been holding since 2015 onto the market? Well, not here because I think it could run some some more. So that remains to be seen. Other than that, I really don't give two f's about what's happening. As long as price goes up, I'm good.
[1:09:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Okay. This is one of my favorite stories. Listen to this story. Okay. You ready for this? In in February 2023, Australian TikTok influencer, Catherine Colivis, age 24, orchestrated the kidnapping of a Saudi Arabian royal family member, luring him via a dating app under the alias Anastasia. After a night out, Khalevis led the victim to an ambush where three men abducted him demanding a $20,000 Bitcoin ransom, a Saudi royal member now. Hey. Give me $20, man. $20 in Bitcoin under threats of violence. The victim's friend transferred the ransom in Bitcoin immediately securing his release. During the abduction, Calibis and accomplice, Paris Kennedy, 22, geniuses, burglarized the victim's apartment, stealing luxury items, including designer clothing, a Louis Vuitton bag, a PlayStation five, and several iPhones. I mean, if you're gonna rob a Saudi prince, obviously, this is what you go for. Both women pleaded guilty to the charges, including kidnapping, extortion, burglary, and theft. Now despite the severity of their crimes, both were spared jail time due to positive rehabilitative efforts and a low risk of reoffending. Colivis received a two and a half year community corrections order with two hundred and forty hours of community work, while Paris Kennedy received the twelve month adjourned undertaking with conviction. This one just stuck out as... I don't know. It's... Because the the sentencing was obviously today. It's in Australia. If this would happen in The
[1:11:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Middle East and Saudi Arabia, these fucking bitches would... You ain't never hear from these chicks again. It's a wrap. They're stoning you
[1:11:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: in the street. They're burying you up to your neck and and your son. Like, this is this. And and the Bitcoin, 20 kidnap a Saudi prince and you'd ban $20. I don't understand. Anastasia, it is what it is. And she's a TikTok star. It's like, oh, nobody's gonna find me.
[1:11:41] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You're on TikTok every fucking day.
[1:11:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Women like this. It's... Forgive me. Yes. They give us a bad bitch.
[1:11:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: She's doing she's doing TikTok dance with him in the background all tied up.
[1:11:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, where is my 20 k? I'm not going.
[1:11:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Imagine it was the chick. Remember the chick
[1:11:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: that was doing all the, like, those...
[1:12:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Remember that chick that was doing that?
[1:12:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Imagine you saw him in
[1:12:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: the background while she did that shit.
[1:12:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That shit would be so funny. He's like, shut up. I'm not done. We have another $7,000 to make. This is the the third shift of the day. If this is easy, you'll... Y'all Edmund will give me $20
[1:12:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: of Bitcoin.
[1:12:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: $20? Like, the... You're... It's Saudi Prince. $20?
[1:12:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like No. No. Play PlayStation five and some iPhones also.
[1:12:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about the PlayStation five and the iPhones that the Saudi freaking prince had. Are you kidding me? This is this is the most dumb... Like, wow. Like, I need to be abducted, like, by some dumbasses like this. Like, what is going on here? What are they gonna do? Take my Apple Watch? Like, and and the demand of some XRP and some drone from Solana? Like, what is going on here? This is the most dumbass way to do things that I've ever even heard of. And the fact that they're getting community service shit for this, are you kidding me? That's like
[1:13:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Premeditated kidnapping. I guess maybe the judge was like, these bitches are so stupid. Like, hey. They ain't gonna learn nothing. Yeah. Like, get out of anybody. Yeah. Like This shit is crazy. It's like we... Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. You. You. You. Hand over your Cardano. Wait. What?
[1:13:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't got no Cardano. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know
[1:13:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: you got that ADA wallet. Hand that shit over.
[1:13:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. He was kidnapped by Kmart. Oh, what's the levies? Levies, it's up. I I had to come up. It's that he was kidnapped by k... Kmart, obviously, at those prices.
[1:13:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, you know, Saudi prince.
[1:13:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Ruthless people quote too, so I couldn't resist.
[1:13:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Australia ain't gonna make it. I'll tell you that right now. Just like between the government over there, the crazy criminal relation, the mapping of the CDC. That's Australia. If you listen to this by some chance, I'm telling you, you ain't gonna make it. You don't gotta listen to me. I'm just a schmuck in Brooklyn. But at the end of the day, you're not gonna make it. You're just not gonna
[1:14:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: make what they got in security service, Dave? Here's why. Because they've already they've already reintegrated into becoming a prison colony. So they're like, you might as well just work here anyways. Yeah.
[1:14:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Might as well clean the highways. Yeah. I do have an actual question. I do
[1:14:29] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: have an actual question. Do you ever do you ever talk in here about Chainlink and or... Oh, shit. I just forgot the other one. Oh, Litecoin. 0?
[1:14:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Litecoin? Oh, the the meme coin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. No. No. So Chainlink, a 100%. Chainlink, a 100%. Anything specific about Chainlink, like, that you wanna know, like CCIP or, like, any of the,
[1:14:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: like, the I already know. I... I've I've I've been in the groups. I used to hang out with Crypto Mewtwo, if you know who he is. I haven't seen him in forever, but he went to work for Chainlink.
[1:15:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Rumor has it. He tried to kidnap a Saudi prince in Australia.
[1:15:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That can't... I... That... That's that's demystified right here because he would've asked for it in Chainlink.
[1:15:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, he must be doing well then. Chainlink's been on a nice little run. You know? By the way, Chainlink and ENS, it's like peanut butter and jelly, by the way. They go to get, like, peas and carrots. Okay? If you're buying Chainlink, you should probably buy ENS with it. It's like there's one that... They work without the other, but they work so much better together.
[1:15:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You got your gate link in my e n s and my e n... I got my e n s and your chain link?
[1:15:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. Don't... Easy. No? Sim it down. No. No. No. Easy. Relax.
[1:15:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: Do you
[1:15:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: have another question?
[1:15:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're lucky. Thank god. Seen enough of you in the last twelve hours. Okay. The junkie list at Hollywood. You know,
[1:16:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I realized it too late. I forgot. This is for a Tuesday, but I don't care. I forgot. I had cracked cheese. I could have brought some.
[1:16:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What?
[1:16:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit. The real deal. You
[1:16:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: actually have the real crack cheese? No. I want... That's Presley. That's... Yeah. You can bring that to Presley. She'd crack it with a gnome crack crack gnome baby, whatever the fuck it was. I don't want none of that, Metabies.
[1:16:29] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, yes. You do. Trust me.
[1:16:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. I just picture Presley sitting on the on the
[1:16:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And there's no such fucking people. There's there's no such thing as leftover crack cheese.
[1:16:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No such thing. You're right, crackheads.
[1:16:48] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, Lucie, let me drone
[1:16:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: a drone just flew over my freaking place I'm staying at right now. So I'm like, no. I'm not... I'm looking out the windows.
[1:16:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's your neighbor's... It's it's your neighbor peering back in on you being like, surprise, bitch.
[1:17:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: I wouldn't be surprised. I was trolling him with my drone, so maybe it is him. Now I'm now I'm getting concerned. It did look like I had a... Either a nozzle or a gun on it, so I gotta go check it out.
[1:17:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Yo. Easy. Okay. Let me see what else. What else? What else we got cooking? What else is on this damn timeline? And you guys have any other stories that you wanna cover? Know we got, like, thirteen minutes left, but... Oh, Charles Hoskinson is talking right now. That should be interesting. He popped into the night show.
[1:17:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: He popped into the night show, and, dude, every time he gets in a spaces event, if you ever wanna... You know, sometimes people are like, oh, Landy, he he he goes over the top with, like, technical analysis stuff and, like, getting deep into, like, development stuff and blockchain stuff. Right? Dude, if you ever want to, like, just be baffled by what is going on, go ahead and listen to a char... Go ahead and listen to Charles talk in a space. Like, man, he's... He is... I don't know. For as much as people don't like him, the dude is super smart. And maybe he baffles you with bullshit, but that guy is freaking super nerdy and smart. And he was talking over my head the other day. I was like, I can't even listen anymore. I gotta walk away and go sort things out. Gotta think about my life. Go do a cold plunge or something.
[1:18:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So we we got we got Yago on Stacksy Show on Wednesday and... From Bitcoin OS. And, I mean, that's gonna be a heavy lift. Like, these guys are very... Like, they're gigabrains. Right? But they're super technical in how they talk. Like... So that's... As a host, like, that's a lift, man. That's such a fucking lift because, like, they talk... They talked to you last time I spoke to Yago. It's like he was, like, mad at me. I'm like, yo, Yago. It's our first time meeting. You don't gotta sound so angry. You know? It's like, damn. It's just like they're so steadfast, like, in their belief of, like, what they're building. It's like, no. No. No. ZK is the answer. Cardano is going to provide it for Bitcoin. That's it. And I'm, like, I'm just listening to these guys talking. I'm like, I'm afraid to ask a question right now. Mean, I'm not super bullish
[1:19:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: on Bitcoin OS. So, like, I'm I'm super into that. And even, like, listening to Yago, I'm I'm like, I I... Can you break that down in a way that even I can understand? Because, like, I run miners and I support networks, and I'm doing all this stuff. I'm not a dev, but, like, help me understand. And, like, homeboy is, like, way so many, like, levels above my understanding that I can't understand anymore. So it's like, bro, break it down into layman's terms. Yo, Junie, help me understand this. What's going on?
[1:19:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: I swear, bro. I swear. Yeah, man. The AI agentic shit is really going fucking... It's really crazy. Okay. What's the level that hasn't been... Oh, yeah. Thinking of the a... On the AI agent front, a virtual high... Meaning a fully autonomous AI running, like, its own Twitter account, put essentially a post out on Twitter, which was essentially an ad to hire somebody, aka a human or an AI, to essentially create them an image or, like, create them, like, a commercial, something like that. And the transaction actually went down, and it was with another AI. So Luna posted... Luna, right, is a is a virtual AI, posted on Twitter. Sticks... Sticks is the other AI, responded to the to the tweet, and they both have it. Sticks accepted the job, went out and actually, like, created this commercial for Luna. So it didn't work. Luna approved, and he and Styx got paid a thousand bucks. This is where at right now, just so y'all know. This is not fantasy anymore. This is not science fiction anymore. This happened directly on the Twitter timeline today. Agent to agent commerce. This is where things are moving. This is it. We gotta get used to this. This is gonna be the new normal. There's going to be billions of agents out here by next year. Believe you me. Look at what virtuals is doing. This thing went from 10¢. It's... It hit $3.40 today on a on a... It's been on a tear, and it shows no signs of slowing down. Right? More and more new agents are coming out. So I just really... I know I talk about it a lot, but I just want people to really be aware and and really understand, like, what is actually out there. Guys, give me one second. Just... Greg, I gotta grab some water.
[1:21:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I'll say this. I'm I'm involved in the virtual's platform because you brought it up. So I went in, and I've been sweeping different agents and looking at the market cap versus the total value locked and, like, getting into good stuff that I thought was... You know, had the potential for much further upside. And I've been really happy there, trading. And what I think is cool is... And this is maybe a little bit of a pitch for a Stacks ecosystem is the AIBTC devs. They have this really cool stuff that does essentially the same thing where it can make and manage wallets and you can have it put out... Like, it can it can link up with zero authority and, like, take on jobs. And, potentially, potentially, if someone else gets an agent running that is doing very similar things, maybe even through AIBTC, just another agent could potentially do the same thing in that ecosystem. So I'm I'm watching, like, this stuff develop, and I'm too small brained to actually catch up in the way. So I would, like, lean heavy on, like, people like yourself, Dave, and others who are really deep into this to kind of, like, tell us what's going on because I feel like I'm running miles behind. But I wanna get involved in stuff like that even for, like, some of my own projects because I think that could be really cool just even to do it, not even to make money off of it, but just to do it and prove out the concept on other chains. But I think virtuals has such a lead. Do you know what they're using on the back end for virtuals for their agents?
[1:23:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: They just started opening it up, or that was the thing. In the beginning, we didn't have access to any of it. Right? Literally none of it. And I don't know if that was part of the plan or not, but now we have a full on sandbox for your Twitter... Your agentic Twitter, your Telegram. Right? And you don't... And you can't even get access to those on us. If you're, say, importing another tweet and you don't wanna do the bonding curve, you have to put up a fuck ton of liquidity. Or if you actually come off the bonding curve, which from what I've read and seen, there's only been, like, less than 200 that have actually really come off the bonding curve. So out of, like, tens of thousands that have been launched. So, like, there's there's so much to this ecosystem, though, Lenny, in the way in which they actually did this. But the agent... Like, some of the top agents themselves, when I look at AI XCV, bro, I... I'm I'm having this guy... So I'm... Guys, I'm running a space on Friday from the WagMe Hub account, and we're doing at, like, AI agents one zero one. So definitely, definitely come through. I have a powerhouse line up there. All the Pudgy Penguin PFP dudes, that are on base now running these crazy projects. And it's Sequoia Capital. Right? Like, agents that are out there looking for investments, right, that are investing in other agents. So, yeah, we're gonna talk about, obviously, like like, genuinely everything. But, yeah, like, Landy, there's so much opportunity, bro. Not like when I look at this platform, like, 6,000,000, 8,000,000. Bro, the shit that I got into four or five days ago was... It's convo, the prefrontal cortex convo agent. That's the thing that's running in 250 of the agents, and that thing's gonna stick out 11,000,000.
[1:24:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I saw that that was, like, one of the... It... And it had a really good TVL to market cap at the time when I got in because everything was pulling back. And then I did... I saw that it... Like, every other agent is using this. So I was like, oh, okay. They're all, like, networked together, which is insane to me. It is basically the AI. You know, Elon brought up, like, the, drone swarms. This is basically AI agent swarms. Right? Like, that's that's insane. So, like, finding an entry point and getting into those ecosystems, even if it's just getting exposure to them, I think, is really important as long as you can value hunt and you know what's coming next. And the base changes seems like it's a natural fit for going right into Coinbase with these particular, coins and and pairs. So... Yeah, man. And how could that even integrate into the app?
[1:25:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, you have no idea how they skilled this, what they did with... For seeding the liquidity pools for all this. They used CBBTC, bro. Because they're custodying everything, they literally use CBBTC in all of the aerodrome fucking pools for the other side, bro. And that's why you had in the beginning. Like, it was like, oh, wow. There's pretty deep liquidity here. And then it's... You slowly, slowly... Like, as more and more, like, came off the curve or as more and more, like, tokens got imported over, it was little by little. Bro, they seeded the whole... It was... Well, it was... Honestly, it's a fucking masterclass if I'm if I'm being honest. But, yeah, Metabees, go for it.
[1:26:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Okay. So in a matter of, like, five minutes so I I just feel it's important to bring this up. I've had received two notifications. One is in regards to Pango allocation quick with a link. Don't be clicking this shit. And then somebody followed with a a link. AirDrop two is here, and it's biggest. So I... I'm guessing these might even be agents. So
[1:26:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where are you getting this? On what platform? Email?
[1:26:57] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: X. I do... I've received them while we're in this space since I've been up here.
[1:27:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Since you talked you mean?
[1:27:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Yeah. No. No. They're they're in my notifications. They're actual tweets that some reason they thought I should be included in it,
[1:27:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I guess. Oh, on your timeline.
[1:27:14] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Okay. Got you. Well, no. They're actually in my notifications. So I assume they did... They added me.
[1:27:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, why are tagged in that?
[1:27:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: They have... I don't know. That is a wonderful question, but there's a whole bunch of people here. Yep. I'm the very last one on that list for some reason.
[1:27:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting.
[1:27:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Scams...... Scams are are starting to tag you.
[1:27:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Pengu or whatever.
[1:27:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. They're tagging you.
[1:27:39] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. I mean, I've had that happen before.
[1:27:42] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Yeah. Me too. They tagged me too. Yeah. I just noticed. Yeah.
[1:27:45] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I've had it happen before, but I just have this feeling now with all these AI agents appearing out on x. This is gonna happen a lot more often.
[1:27:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Yeah. Everybody just be careful, please. Yeah. We say it all the time. Right? Like, the bull market's gonna bring even more sophisticated fucking scams out. Right? Like, it's it's just it's just a fact. Yeah. Good heads up, MetaBeast. Appreciate it. Yo. Pizza... Oh, my pizza pets are starting to lose a little bit of their hearts. Wait. They lost half a heart. Do I even bother with that? I just wanna see how the whole fucking dynamic works. Whatever. I'll spend a couple of bucks. Fuck it. But, yeah, man, they're starting to starting to deteriorate, Landy. I don't know what the the... He's fucking Yeah.
[1:28:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: I just saw that. Some of them did, but others didn't. And now there's still no way for me to feed them or do anything, so I'm a little confused.
[1:28:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, you can't? Wait. Really?
[1:28:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: I still can't. Yeah. I was trying to see if I could just... Oh, no. Okay. It is live now, but it's not giving...
[1:28:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You can submit now. I I have the option. Oh, let's roll the dice right now. Let's fucking... Let's give one of these fuckers DMT. Let's go. Okay. Live on air. We're gonna see if we could fucking migrate one of these sons of bitches. Okay. Hold on. Let me see. Alright. Here we go. This one? This one? 2. 12482. Okay. Let's go. 124. Where is this?
[1:29:05] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Hey, Wendy.
[1:29:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up?
[1:29:08] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Yeah. How's your boy doing, though? Good?
[1:29:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: How's... Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Peaches. Yeah. No. It... He's he's recovering from the fluid. It's just that my wife caught it the same time now. Well, not the same time. They... He was... As he's getting better, she just now got it. And I'm hoping and praying that I don't get it because I can't be out of commission for more than my son's been out of commission for over seven days. So it's, it's not fun, but he's he's doing better. Thank you, peaches.
[1:29:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Man, this... Okay. So I have two of these pizza pets have full hearts, and then two of them just lost half a heart. So I'm a little confused because I thought they would lose a full heart every eight hours, but I guess it's gonna go incrementally. And pizza will make them poop, or no. It's a twenty three percent chance to poop. Beer will give them two hearts, which there's no sense in doing that, as it's a sixty nine percent chance of poop. Let's see. We've got showered, so that will remove heart loss, but it cleans poop. So I'm a little confused by that part, but I guess I'm just gonna have to see how this goes. I'm gonna let mine sit for a little while, see see how off... Oh my god. One of them is down. Nope. Now I'm confused because two of them that I selected are back to full hearts. This makes no sense. I think things are maybe a little broken right now. I'm gonna just wait it out and see what happens because I know for a fact... Yep. Now all of a sudden they disappeared. Now now they're not loading anymore. We'll have to see. Maybe they're just performing some updates to the website, and we'll have to check back. Because now everybody's starting to... Well, high priority is only four sets. Okay. We're gonna do this. We're gonna we're gonna experiment. We're gonna give it some pizza. High priority, four sets. Let's go... Oh my god. $10? Three sets? $9? Two sets will never go through. Yeah. So it's $10. Okay. So this is actually pretty interesting. I have three selected with with, the pizza to feed them. And at four sets per v bite, it's about $10. So you are gonna wanna you are gonna wanna make sure you have some decent amount in there. Uh-oh.
[1:31:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys, can you hear me? Oops. Sorry.
[1:31:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: There you are. What's up? I did
[1:31:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: it again. Yeah. You know, battery died as usual.
[1:31:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's what happened. Okay.
[1:31:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a... The story time regulars. They know that it's a... It's part of the course. Wait. Did you do it yet, Landy?
[1:31:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. So what I was just looking at is the ones that had hearts lost, like, half heart lost, all of sudden they refreshed and they're full hearts again without me putting any transactions through. But I was looking, and you're gonna wanna make sure you have a decent amount of funds in your wallet because it's $10 just for three of them if I was gonna send three of them off for feeding.
[1:32:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's... Yeah. It's a good point. That's what I'm saying. Like, bro, I literally put in, like, I I don't like, $5,600 for now. I'm fully planning on spending probably, like, double that. I... Just in the first, like, week or two because... Yeah. I mean, it's not gonna be this it's not gonna be this
[1:32:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Wait. Let's do this DMT shit. You ready to do it? Let's do it. I refreshed my shirt.
[1:32:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: DMT for one. Yeah.
[1:32:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're you're gonna do it?
[1:32:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I put it for just for one. I wanna see what happens.
[1:32:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's get... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. DMT. Here we go. Let's see if we can do it. Okay. Submit. Guys.
[1:32:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: So here... Here's my thesis. Yeah. I just submitted. So I'm in mempool now....
[1:33:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Have to... Wait. Hold up. I didn't even have to approve the transaction.
[1:33:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. No. It should prompt your wallet.
[1:33:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: It did not prompt my wallet. It said order ID and then just gives me an ID number. What the fuck is this?
[1:33:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, well, that's interesting. Yeah. Did they give you a transaction? If you look in mempool, it's a mempool?
[1:33:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's not a mempool link. It's an order ID number. Hold on. Let me just make sure that my wallet is connected.
[1:33:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Maybe it's gonna pick the network fee and then send it off for that network fee. That's interesting. Yeah. So here's my thought process on this, by the way. I think people are gonna start seeing the fees that they have to spend in order to keep the pets alive, and they might just start flooring them. And if they do, that might be... It might pay off to experiment and then sweep the floor if it continues to drop because they're down 17% right now. I think people are looking at the fees and they're like, oh, man. I don't wanna do that. They dropped from about $40 down to 33 now. That's... Because a lot of people that are getting these don't have a lot of sats in their wallet. I'm even looking through at these wallets, like some of the floor ones, and they don't have... They're just... They're they're trying to get rid of these because they don't have the stats to keep them alive. So that might be a a longer play is that the floor might drop out on these. So it might make sense to experiment and see if you can evolve some of them quickly Mhmm. And then just buy up ones once they start flooring at about 15 to $20 or something.
[1:34:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's what I was saying, bro. Like, I was I was buying these things at $20.25, but I couldn't click the buy button fast enough on Gamma. So wait. So what the fuck? Hold on a second. So is there a... Does it show a pending... Does yours show a pending transaction, Landy, on on... Like, if you click on on your XRS wallet on Bitcoin? I don't.
[1:34:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm using Magic Eden wallet, so I have the transaction in mempool now. So I'm in mempool.
[1:35:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: But now how do you also tell, like, which ones... Like, it's a little... That's not very clear. Right? Like, where... Yeah. That... Like, I don't know.
[1:35:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's it's one of those situations where, like, right now, I'm looking at... I did three. I did one of them. So I had to send it because I didn't wanna DMT. This is this is how I ended up doing it. So I ended up with... I'm gonna have to send that other one that I DMT'd back through because it looks like it was either if I selected all three, and I'd... I could either DMT all three or feed all three. But I only wanted the DMT one, but I wanna feed all three. So you have to now do two separate transactions. So one of them is through as DMT. The other two are through for feed. And then when the DMT one's done, I'm gonna have to feed it. So it's... If it survives, because it... What is it? A fifty fifty chance?
[1:36:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, it's giving me the same shit with nonsense. Oh, shit. Might have just DMT two or... Fuck.
[1:36:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I'd I'd just wait to see what happens because I'm not sure if the site is fully running.
[1:36:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fuck. Alright. Hey. Listen. We rolled the dice.
[1:36:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: 51 chance. It literally is a dice roll. Yeah.
[1:36:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I guess we'll see what the fuck happens. But... Alright. Good chat, guys. Yeah. Let's let's see what's up. Lango, let's let's fucking keep in touch in the DMs. I wanna, like, let me know what the fuck happens on your end, and I'll let you know what happens on my end. Good stuff. Cool. Anything, Anne, you wanna leave us with? You good?
[1:36:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's playing ball already. Let's go. Good shit. Thank you, Cool. Landy Peaches. Meta Beast, appreciate you. Tommy, I see you. What's good? Rolex, what up? Prop. Norbert, what's good? Tron guy, LJ, thank you. Dev, d, Buildo. Oh, yo, Buildo. Shout out to you, man. I got... Shen is actually coming on the space as a guest speaker on Friday. So, man, props to you, Buildo. Thank you, man. Nah. I see you big o was cooking. We gotta... Yeah. To go down the list is little far. But
[1:37:19] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Hey, Dave. Hey, Dave. Great. What's up,? She's cool? With? Yeah.
[1:37:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I checked in with her, like, the other day. Like, you know, she's just taking a little bit of time for herself. Like, you know, sometimes, like, you know, you you gotta just step away for a little bit. You know what I mean? And... But, I mean, as far as I know, like, checking the other day, she's she's okay. She's just taking time for herself.
[1:37:41] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Alright. Let's go, man. Let's go. Great space, man.
[1:37:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate you, peaches, man. Thank you very much. Have a good night, everybody. Peace.

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