ATC: ALL THINGS CRYPTO w/Dave Kool & NatNat. 2025 Moon or Rug

# ATC: ALL THINGS CRYPTO w/Dave Kool & NatNat. 2025 Moon or Rug | 2024-12-23 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1lDGLlyyzgkGm | status: approved
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[0:00:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: What up, brother? What's up, boys? Give me one second. Let me get the music kicking. So when everybody gets in here,
[0:00:48] Voice M: know... Before they do, you know, turd's dead.
[0:00:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah.
[0:00:54] Voice M: That that shit is a ghost, bro. Yeah. Because the fucking actual dev is fucking liquidating all his tokens, and that shit is flatlined.
[0:01:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, that's not good. Right. I guess that is what it is. Alright. Let me let me play some let me play some chews. Let me play some chews. Hold up.
[0:01:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love dope.
[0:01:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. The neighbors think I'm selling dope.
[0:01:36] Voice L: I guess the neighbors think I'm selling dope. Selling dope.
[0:01:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: K. What up, baby? I see you.
[0:01:43] Voice L: K. The neighbors think I'm
[0:01:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: selling baby Vincent. What's good, Landy? What up?
[0:01:47] Voice L: Selling dope. Selling dope. Yeah. I don't want no picture with the president. I just wanna talk to the man. Speak for the boys in a bando, and my nigga never walking again. Apologize if I'm hopping again. I know these things happen often, but I'm back on the scene. I was lost in a dream as I write this a teen down in Austin. I've been building me a house back home in a stock, ma. I believe what it's costing, and it's fit for a king. Right? All a nigga that can sing and explain all the pain that it cost him.
[0:02:10] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: That was his teen.
[0:02:11] Voice L: Came coughing for the fame and the fortune. Well, maybe not the fortune, but one thing is to show that the fame is exhausting. That's why I moved away. I needed privacy surrounded by the trees in Ivy League. Students that's recruited, highly, thinking you do you and I do me. Crib has got a big old back of y'all. My nigga stand outside and pass the guards. Took with marijuana laughing hard. Thankful that they friends are platinum star. In the driveway, there's no rapper cars. Just some shit to get from back and forth. Just some shit to get from back and forth. To the shelter.
[0:02:40] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: This money
[0:02:40] Voice L: will help you if you felt too insecure to be the star you always knew you were. Wait. I think police is at the door.
[0:02:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: Neighbors think I'm selling dope.
[0:03:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. And all you people that say,
[0:03:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: AI agents are just as bad. They'd be gone in a week or two. Uh-huh.
[0:03:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: Miss me with all that.
[0:03:14] Voice L: Can't escape death, taxes, and a rape. Since society didn't make every nigga feel like a candidate for a trade fine kind of fate. Even when your crib sit on a lake, even when your blacks
[0:03:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: hang on a
[0:03:25] Voice L: wall, even when the president came to tape, took a little break just to annotate how I feel. Damn it, slate. I can't sleep because I'm paranoid. Black in a white man territory. Cops busting with the army guns. No evidence that our harm we done. Just a couple of neighbors that have told me slang. Only time they see us we'd on the loose and change. Damn.
[0:03:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. What's good? Meek two o was good. Yo. Let's get this thing cracking, man. Like, love it. Y'all came in, retweeted the
[0:03:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: whole nine yards. This is amazing.
[0:03:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: Neighbors think I'm selling dope.
[0:03:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is such a vibe, though. Yo. Yo. Yo. What's good, everybody? Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Happy Monday to, this episode of all things cooking, baby. All things crypto, a t c. I am here joined with my cohost, Cool Crypto. We got our panel of fucking guest speakers cooking. Man, this... There is definitely some news. My timeline was on fire today, boy. There's some moon paint news. There's there's a lot of news cooking out here, man. Who's buying who? Yeah. We're gonna get into it, but, cool. Let's go, bro.
[0:04:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey, man. What's going on? Happy happy almost Christmas Day. Happy almost New Year's Day. Everything's good, man. New new day, new life. We good. We good. Hope hope hope everybody's doing well, and then just just enjoying the year, man. It's been a great year, and looking forward to 2025, man.
[0:04:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We're gonna take everybody's, New Year's resolute... Crypto resolutions, right, by the end of the show. And if it's like, oh, I bought too many meme coins or I didn't buy enough meme coins in Samara's case or, you know, whatever. Or I pumped 20 soul into the worst fucking AI agent project on the planet. You know? Like, it is what it is. Like, yeah, things about... That we don't want to do moving forward. Yo, Landy. What's good, bro?
[0:05:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up? What's up? It's good to see you, back again here today after a nice, what seemed like a really long weekend. It's good to see you. Cool. I'm doing okay. Look. Like, the markets have been volatile, and that's... This is this is Landy's playground. I love volatility. So I've been having some fun while still, you know, preparing for the holidays. So getting in the mood, feeling, feeling that, Christmas spirit and cheer. And, yeah, definitely definitely seems to be round... We're rounding out the year in a good way, I think, especially when it comes to some of the news... Some of the news.
[0:05:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I got Pizza Pets. My my year is complete. That's it. I'm taking care of these 38... Oh, no. Wait. I sold two. I got rid of two of them this morning. Yeah. Sorry, kids. This isn't, this isn't long. You You know, you're here for a good time, not for a long time. So, see you. 36 now. But goddamn are these things fucking incredible, bro. Samar, what's good, my brother?
[0:06:13] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Jim, Joe, and Dave. Jim, cool, Landy. Shout out to you. Shout out to you guys. Yeah. Bro, today is a lot of pets. Like, how much do you pay to feed those pets every day? Like, bro, how much do you eat every day? Like, it's ridiculous. But, yeah, shout out to you. Shout out to you. You were here again for another episode of ATC. So let's see what happens. Market is volatile. Like, it's sad. I need BTC back at 105 k. But, yeah, we're still here. We're still here. All things still looking good, still bullish long term. So, yeah, guys, welcome.
[0:06:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Man, I don't know if tomorrow's gonna go into 2025. I mean, I wanted him to go into a nice agreement.
[0:06:51] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: I'm rich motherfucker.
[0:06:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know how he usually is, Javier? But, hey. You know, we'll see how the we'll see how it... The the year pans out. There's still a couple weeks left. But, Shmoney, what's good, bro? Welcome to the stage of ATC, my man. Shmoney's like, I'm just here to engage with man. Let's go, my bro.
[0:07:15] Voice M: Just working in the background still, man. Just trying to get this fucking deployment across the finish line. Sorry.
[0:07:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're good, bro. You're good. You're good. Do you think, my man? Do you think do you think? LJ, what is good, my brother? Welcome, bro. I hear you got a little bit of alpha alpha for us today.
[0:07:28] Voice H: Yeah, bro. How are you? Good day, cool. Landy, Money Miller. I see... I can see Kay down there, legend. Hey, Samara. Yeah. Guess what? Hedera has memes. Yeah. We finally got our own main platform up there called memejob.fun, similar to pump.fun, but a lot a lot cleaner. Yeah. We're having some good tokens, and it seems the... Anything started by the OGs has seemed to have safe laws and stuff like that. Just some... A few tokens that might be worth look... Looking out for. One that we 've got an IRL character. He gets around... He he lives in Vietnam. Gets around... His name's Bobby. He's been a long time project in our ecosystem with these NFTs, and, yeah, he gets around in character. Soon, he's been doing videos with China Mac who's got, like, over 500 YouTube... 500 k YouTube followers. He's always getting out there. So, yeah, very entertaining videos, IRL content there. So, yeah, that's bonded off the curve and rising as well. So it's probably a good buying opportunity at the moment. We had some Juda's overnight selling off in that. So, yeah, that's a good opportunity there. The other one I want to mention launched yesterday while we're on live on Spaces and... By none other than Altman. So she's launched mom token on Hedera. It bonded, overnight, for me, today for everyone else, obviously. And, yeah, I'm expecting very big things from that. And, yeah, as I imagine Dave and Kula, I've got them... I've got to give a shout out to Nat. We wish you well for Christmas. We miss us so much.
[0:09:39] Voice H: I love those. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm missing all that, so now I imagine you guys are too. So I sent her a message earlier. I know she'll see it and stuff, but as you've done here with the... You've left net net up on the thing. Net net still up on the hour, all our graphics each week out of respect. The show goes on. Yeah. I'm just keeping everything building because we're building a brand. And, yeah, I'm I'm doing whatever I can to sort of just keep it going there. So, yeah, missing the hopes for sure.
[0:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go well, Jay. I appreciate you, man. And look. Like, we ain't trying to talk talk about Nana. Like, she ain't dead for fuck's sake. Like, she's taking a little bit of time, motherfuckers. Take it easy. I spoke to her yesterday. She's she's getting better. She's on the mend. She's good. You know? Day by day, everything's gonna be good. Like, you know, I'm not trying to let any of the... None of this negative fucking whatever into my into my frame, especially going into the New Year. So, yeah, Nat Nat will be back. Like I said, she... That name is never leaving up top over there nor is this cohost spot being filled. But, yeah, Nat, I I genuine... Like, me and Cool reached out to her. I think it was yesterday or two days ago, Cool. We had a quick chat with her just to check-in, see what was good. And said, you know, she's good. She's hanging in there. She's getting better every day, and, hopefully, we'll see her early twenty twenty five. She's gonna spend the holiday with the fam. But, yeah, you know, like the rest of us, man.
[0:11:01] Voice H: She'll be she'll be back stronger than ever. I guarantee it.
[0:11:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, facts. You don't know about... What do you know about the... You don't know about no Dominican women, bro. Trust me. You grow up in Brooklyn, you get to know exactly how fucking tough Dominican women are. Yeah. You don't fuck around with Dominican women. But... Yeah. Yo. Shout out Kate who came through. Maybe just to hear me and Cool talk. I don't know who else he would have come here to listen to, but, damn, cool. Maybe, actually, like, Kate does actually care. Like, woah. Woah. Well, you probably more so than me, but, you know, maybe it's for the jokes. Kate, I appreciate you being here, man. Shout out to everybody else that's here. Tripping monkey. I see you. There... Hey, Landy. There's another Landy. How you like this? How you like them apples? I knew another Landy before you, and she's a female, number one. So shout out. Landy in the crowd. I... It's so good to see you. Haven't seen you in such... In a minute. And for those of you that don't know, there is another show that goes on. It's the boys... My boys across the pond, Pav and and Luke. They do something called minted mornings. So it's pretty much like for The UK crowd. It's an incredible, incredible daily show. So if you guys don't... If you guys get a chance to, I'll see if I can maybe pin something up to the top. But, Landy, did you ever think that there would be a Landy before you?
[0:12:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wow. That's awesome. I actually just shot her a follow because this is, it's it's fate. Right? I had no idea there was another Landy. I even did a search for it prior to that. And, you know, there's there's been... Okay. There was one other crypto landy, but the account was a suspended account. Apparently, it was a a... An account that was a, before they were KOLs kind of an account thing. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna seize on this opportunity and and do some educational stuff. And there's actually an interesting story behind that, but I won't get into that today. But it's awesome to see Landy down in the crowd, and, just shot you a follow there, Landy.
[0:12:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. She's a gem of a human being. We had a couple of meetings. She's massive... Like, she's huge in the art scene. Just a a good human. So definitely, like, guys, shoot Landy a follow. Reach out, especially if you're an artist. She, she's definitely the person to talk to if you're an artist. Shout out, Dev. I see you. Zero. I see you. What's good? Big two o was cracking. Tripping monkey. Mickey, stars was good. Black stain, I see all y'all, man. Thanks, everybody, obviously, for coming through. There has been some news lately that has been popping off on the timeline. I've seen everything from AI agents from Eternal AI being launched on Bitcoin, on ZK Sync. I'm now seeing them literally across all of these different chains. Shit is popping off right now on the AI agent side. I'm not gonna sit here and say I told you so. Actually, really quickly, Doug Vibers, I didn't even see you, my boy. What's good, bro?
[0:13:48] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: What up, bro? Actually, I'm programming my own AI agent as we speak. It said it'd be a month because, you know, I'm complex and complicated. So so my AI agent must be to... How you been, man? What are you doing?
[0:14:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm good, my brother. I'm good. I'm good. Hey. Listen, y'all. This man right here, he might not sound like it, but this is the deep pin guru. Okay? You wanna talk anything?
[0:14:15] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: No. No. No.
[0:14:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I ain't coming here for pro...
[0:14:17] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: I'm just coming here for the algorithm, bro. No.
[0:14:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm trying to I'm trying to give alpha to my I'm trying to give alpha to my listeners. I'm not trying to
[0:14:23] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: give you flowers
[0:14:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: just exhibit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get out of here. I'm not trying to give you flowers. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, if you want a good resource, like, he is a good resource. Just follow his page. Like, he got he got the goods. But let's let let... Let's kinda go into this because I'm I'm I'm starting to see this now. There's so much news out here. Right? Like, I don't even know where to start. I saw OpenSea Foundation. Who knows what's going on? Is there gonna be an actual airdrop coming? I saw MoonPay to buy HelioPay. Where do we wanna start here, gents? Because, I mean, let's start with the OpenSea conversation. Right? Because we just came off the Magic Eden airdrop. Monstrous. Right? Like... And for those of you that are still holding, god bless. May god be with you. We all... I I hope all mine. Me too. They told me I was crazy, but in the long run, for sure, it's gonna be good. Let me do the quest. I'm gonna stake it, and I'm gonna do some quests. Yeah. You guys keep doing your quests. What do we make about this OpenSea foundation? I really... I genuinely do not know much about, like, what this situation is, but every time we see foundation, that means crypto friendly. And if y'all remember what was... What the story was way back when, OpenSea was at a 60... They couldn't even manage a fucking listing when they had a $16,000,000,000 valuation. They wanted to go into the stock exchange. They couldn't even figure that shit out. So now OpenSea Foundation. Cool. Let the fucking speculation nation run amok. What do you think about this?
[0:15:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: Come on, man. You already know what? It's it's a airdrop season, man. Airdrop season. They saw what what magic eating did. Open sea was was was was the was the hot chick in the room, man. I mean, they they fucked it up, man. They had They had it all, man. I just think it's just mismanagement as always by people. I think it's just greed on one hand, but they they they could have killed it, man. But, of course, they mismanaged everything and, obviously, kinda fell on the wayside and all their all their protocols came out and and took their lunch from them. But, yeah, man, I... You know, it... They don't... This is a heads up for sure. They saw what what did and the success of it. Then we we rewarding multiple users. I think it's a way for for... They they want to bring back the spark because... And if... And if this season's back again, the volume of OpenSea is as high as it was almost four years ago. Pretty close. Not pretty close, but it's it's high. It's high. But... So they they they wanna bring that basket back, man. And this is the perfect way to usher in the new the new vibe of of of of of users from airdrops, and they're trying to, you know, take take advantage of the NFT season being back up again. So, yeah, man. So I'm not I'm not surprised, but this is a airdrop. It's gonna be big. I don't know how big. It might it might even be bigger because they have something to prove here, man. They they they have competition now from from to Magic Eden to multiple other other... I'm sorry about that. My phone is rang. To to other protocols, man. You know? So... Yeah. No. It it it... This isn't... It's it's gonna be a airdrop. It's gonna be a big one. We just don't know how big. That's what the question is gonna be now. But, yeah, man, I'm here for it, man. I'm here for it. We'll see how it plays out, but I'm definitely here for it. It's gonna be big one. Possibly a lot of Ethereum, OG users, old school users. You know, the the the ETH or ETH airdrops usually... They like to reward old old users. So this is gonna be, like, minting NFTs back in 2020, 2021. It's gonna be probably,
[0:18:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: you know, probably, you know, the
[0:18:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: the more trading you did on that platform. And they're probably gonna do something similar to Magic Eden and reward users on multiple chains, man. So it's gonna be big, man. It's not gonna be a small one.
[0:18:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: So cool. Let me ask you real quick. Where do you do the majority... Like, when when you're talking about all your NFTs for all these different projects. Right? Are you trading them on Magic Eden, OpenSea? Like, where where where are you, like, trading majority now?
[0:18:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: Now. Now. Now. It's it's it's diverse, man. It... Because the... All the all the stuff I'm owning now, right, they they launched it on different on different there's one on Tensor. Tensor is one that used Eden. My... Eden, of course, OpenSea. Recently, OpenSea is where the the money's really been because there's a lot of OG NFTs on there, and those OG NFTs are launching airdrops now. They want to tokenize. Man, look at our Doodles. It's gonna do one. Multiple other OG NFT collections, they wanna do an airdrop, man. I think that's why OpenSea wants to do this airdrop now to to to bring up... To bring back up the the competition, man. Oh, sorry. To bring... To challenge competition because they had the the title, and they lost it. So... But mostly for me, it's OpenSea. It's Tensor. It's Magic Eden, and not so much other one is Stargate. Stargate is for the modular modular ecosystem size, and there's another one, former chain. Former chain is more niche. Former chain is for, like, true true DJs. The guys I know that are really into the modular projects. That's where that's where we bought the the the the mammoth going from from $3 to fucking over 5 k in two two days, man. Yeah. No no joke, bro. Like, I don't have two. I... Nobody knew. Nobody knew it was gonna be like this. So what's it called? The former chain. Palmer chain is on Celestia. You guys know me yelling Celestia for the past one year. But those four places is what I use. So Magic Eden, OpenSea, Tensor, and Former chain. That's where I I made my NFTs, bro.
[0:20:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting, man. Super interesting. Landy, talk to me, man. Like, does OpenSea have a shot at really gaining back market share right now? Because last... To my knowledge, they don't do any bit... Anything on Bitcoin. And from what I recall, the Magic Eden airdrop rewarded heavy, heavy to the Bitcoin crowd. No?
[0:20:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Part of the reason why is because throughout 2023, the majority of the volume was coming from the Bitcoin side of things, and and that's you know, it helped them build out, their platform. Also, Magic Eden has, you know, got a lot of venture capital from the Bitcoin side of things as well. Look. I I think that OpenSea has an uphill battle. You know? They they lost the title fight, and they've gotta, you know, they've gotta change things around. Look. Like, I... There was a... There was even, like, some recent updates to the app and stuff that I was not a fan of. I've... You know, I used OpenSea right from the very beginning, even when there was heavy FUD about all of this kind of stuff. And, you know, I'm I'm all for them rewarding. If they try to reward in a bigger way, obviously, that's more downward pressure on the market. So it's really first first people out are gonna be able to get back in and buy the lows kind of thing if they do release coin. Know, they were very ambitious at first, and it... It's like, you know, it... All it takes is a is a bear market to take the ambition, Adi, if you if you can't hold things together and keep innovating. And, you know, I think that it's good that we have competition, though. I I do wish for their success. I hope that they can pivot, and this turns into something good. Because without competition, we just have this increasing centralization of these platforms, and this kinda goes against the ethos of our entire ecosystem. Although this... It... It's an ebb and flow situation. You know, I hope that they can be successful in this. I don't know how successful they're gonna be. I... It's kind of like, you know, I... I'm gonna mediate expectations for them. I know there's certain people in the crypto communities that are very excited about this. Like, they're gonna make their comeback. I think that, you know, they gotta prove out what they're gonna do. And, you know, there is some ground to make up, but I don't think it's, like, insurmountable. But it isn't, gonna be easy for them. In terms of the platform and, like, potential airdrops in the future, like, that's, you know... They... They've been watching what's going on. They understand the meta. They understand that alt season, like, the true alt season is not far off, and, you know, timing is of the essence. So they now have to... If they're gonna do anything from here, they have to execute well. And if they execute well, that will ingratiate them back into, you know, the the limelight or at least get a little bit of shine for this, what I feel is is kind of the upcoming alt season. So... And that, of course, is gonna roll over into, in my opinion, NFTs and, you know, ordinals. If they do something with ordinals, that would actually be pretty incredible. I highly doubt they're going to, but you never know.
[0:23:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. This is true. I mean, look. If they do an AirDrop right now, they're literally injecting... I mean, I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, like, yeah, that's a great way to kinda just recapture your market share and bring people back to your platform. Right? But it's like... I mean I mean, that can technically reignite this whole NFT boom right now. Right? Like, we... Because we're we're we're up here debating. Like, is this something that we see kinda having legs, and is it... Is the... Our NFT is back and blah blah blah. And we're like, yeah. Kinda, sorta, not really. We don't know. But something like this can really fucking just springboard, like, the NFT market, like, I mean, like crazy, man. It really, really can. So it's gonna be interesting to see kinda how this whole thing shakes out. If anybody has any other info on it, please, like, feel free to put it in the comments, share, come up here, chat. Would love to hear it. I haven't done any any extensive homework on this stuff. I just saw OpenSea Foundation. I don't know if there's a Luca connection here at the end of the day. I really have no clue. You know, how, like, that rumor was flying around of, like, are Pudgy Penguins buying OpenSea? Like, what's what's the deal here? You know? So I don't know exactly how it's gonna work, but I guess we're here for it. But hopefully, they don't... Listen. Hopefully, they don't fuck it up because they had a they had a a a... An... Like, the chance of all chances to really just fucking decimate and just dominate this market. Magic Eden wasn't even a thought on anybody's mind, let alone a word on their tongue back in 2021, and then literally, like, they handed them the entire market on a silver platter. So be super careful. We're gonna be obviously watching out for it. But, yeah, I saw a couple people came up. Vedimim, what's good, man? How are you?
[0:25:14] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: Doing pretty good. How about yourself?
[0:25:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Doing good, my brother. Doing good. You wanna weigh in on the OpenSea story? What's that? Did you wanna weigh in on the OpenSea story, or you're just here to chill? It's okay. I'm just here to chill. Okay. I I didn't even hear about the OpenSea.
[0:25:27] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Where did it get the OpenSea, guys? Where did it get OpenSea story? I can't find it.
[0:25:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: So the OpenSea... So it's not technically a news story. Right? Like... But we did see that they have a new Twitter account called the OpenSea Foundation. Right? Yeah. DarkVirus, you have any more info on it?
[0:25:41] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Go for it, bro.
[0:25:43] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: No. I'm just saying, are they really gonna do an airdrop? Oh my gosh. We'll all be rich. No. But, you know, with the magic heat and whatnot, what did you do with that money? I put mine on the NFTs and stuff. You imagine? So we all piggyback on web three of, like, you know, Magic Eden, obviously, probably piggyback off of OpenSea. But if... Yeah. Like, Cool said, you know, man, if they did something like that, you imagine the revenue that would go back into... I mean, like, I would like to own a Pudgy or something else. You know, I bought something the other day with my Magic Eden drop. I mean, I think it'd just go right back into the economy and be good for everybody. I mean, NFTs are gonna come back after this... You know, the token thing's done for a show.
[0:26:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good take. Good take. Good take. Tamara, you... Will you begin the NFT trading game tomorrow?
[0:26:39] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. I am. And I have, like, a little contribution about the OpenSees stuff. Yeah. I feel like they're most definitely goes on a airdrop. Like, it's gonna happen. But I don't really know if they're... If it's going to, like, outperform Magic Eden's, like, the volume of BTC and everything. But I feel like it should be decent because, like who said, like, they have something to prove right now because for a while, a lot a lot of people had some issues with, like, OpenSea. Like... And I think they also have, like, an NFT collection, like, an OpenSea Elliot Doctor NFT collection that was, like, free couple of months back, and now I think it's going for, like, 0.1 Eth or 0.01 Eth or something. So even on CoolSpeed on Saturday, there was a guy who came on and said he minted, like, a bunch of them when he was, like, literally free. And now he has, like, a bunch just to offload, and who knows? If he hold... If he keep, like, holds onto them, you might get, like, a bunch of air drops. So, yeah, there's definitely an air drop coming soon. And I feel like it's just a way of them to, like, be in the news again and just get that volume back in a way. So, yeah, I feel like we should be expecting edge up, like, you know, probably q one twenty twenty five. So it's coming. It's coming.
[0:27:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's see. I mean, yeah, you saw people going and and looking up like, oh, I was the, like, two thousandth most active, you know, trader on blah blah blah. And if I'm being honest, like, I'm gonna be straight with y'all. I did not trade NFTs. So for me, I could give two fucks about this thing. Like, I want y'all to win. Right? If y'all were trading fucking NFTs on OpenSea, god bless. You know?
[0:28:15] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: I'm with you, Dave.
[0:28:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, I I really... I genuinely... Like, I barely did anything. I... By dumb luck, I ended up... My first NFT was an ENS domain, and I didn't even know what the hell that was, which got me, like, a $6,000 airdrop. Thank you god for that one. That was amazing. Literally, just dumb luck. So, yeah, I was never into the PFP thing. You couldn't convince me with fucking... I didn't give a shit how much money was going into it. I'm like, it's a picture of a fucking monkey. Get out of my face with this nonsense. I don't care. I literally do not care. And then now you wanna show me pixel art and tell me this is better with CryptoPunks and Provenance. Okay. Maybe I'll give you that a little bit. But then they moved off the platform, and it was like, yeah. We're gonna go do our own shit. And was like, okay. Now what the fuck does OpenC have? Yeah. And then it just became just ridiculousness. Yeah. But we'll see. We shall see.
[0:29:04] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: You are not talking about about their UI and speed. It's awful.
[0:29:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, it it... Listen. It's all...
[0:29:13] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: They got so cocky. They did not want to improve at all.
[0:29:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right. You are right, my friend. And the amount of fucking spam that I got in my fucking office...
[0:29:23] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: You know how they you know how they how they will find NFTs? They scrape whole the ecosystem and finds newly minted NFTs. On the other hand, as you know, Serum's chain is not like a... Compared to Solana, it's very... I don't wanna say all those. I don't wanna bash anything, but the best NFT trading platform is right now SVM, Solana Virtual Machine. Might be in Solana or l twos on Ethereum, which uses SVM like Eclipse and others.
[0:30:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair. So for those that don't remember this story that I sounded off on this, y'all remember when I told you this OpenSea story where I got into it with the guy... Remember the guy that was convicted? The guy that was literally working for... He was, like, one of, like, three employees. What they were doing was... The... His name was Nathan. He was going through all of the fucking collections pre reveal, and this motherfucker was picking out all of the fucking rare ones and, like, literally buying them up, like, before they reveal. Dude.
[0:30:27] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: He made 75,000 or something. He got jailed.
[0:30:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was literally in the DMs with this guy because I saw it clearly. I'm lit... I have a full on conversation with this guy being like, you fucking piece of shit. Like, I see you doing this. He was like, I don't understand what you mean. I'm like, you're not listing this collection versus that collection. I'm like, all of a sudden, like, that actually bodes well for your bag, which, by the way, in case you don't know, genius, your address is public. It's a fuck. I genuinely don't even know if these guys knew what the fuck was going on. That's how much money was actually coming through the door, and they were just like, fuck it. Whatever. They were severely understaffed. It just goes to show how, like, hype... I don't even wanna call it hypergrowth. I mean, it was just... I don't know what the fuck to call it, but, hey, let's hope... Let let... Let's see what the story is. Did they change ownership or anything as far as we know? Like, is it still Devin that's at the helm over there or... And, like, in... And that whole team, or does anybody know?
[0:31:19] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: They sold they sold shares, and they also raised... I don't want to be mistaken, but I know in one stage, they raised 120,000,000. So last one and a half years, I wasn't really reading or reusing OpenSea at all on the Magic Depot. Interesting.
[0:31:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. I guess we'll see. I guess we shall see. Alright. Let's move it on. Next story. This one I found... Hold on. Let me let me let me... I wanna read this properly because this this deserves its own headline. Breaking. MEXI, centralized exchange, the only major exchange listing Hex and PulseChain Oh my will will will delist both tokens due to founder Richard Hart being on Interpol's most wanted list. So for those Failure. So for those of you that live under a fucking rock, 2021, this dude... And let me tell y'all something, though. If anybody was ever in spaces with Richard Hart, he was eating motherfuckers alive. Okay? I don't wanna hear it. This dude knew He's smart. He knew what the fuck he was talking about. He genuinely did, and he would eat you up and spit you out. But that means because he knew so much, he knew how to game this whole fucking system. Right? But, cool, what do you make... Not so much of this news. Right? But this whole Richard Heart, Hex, PulseChain, do you think people actually learned anything, or are we gonna see some more of the same shit this time around? It it...
[0:32:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's it's crazy, man. I I I I feel bad for this dude in a way because it's it's the same thing we talk about all the time, man. You gotta be humble, man. You gotta be humble. Like, I don't give a fuck how much money you have. You gotta be humble. You never know. It doesn't last forever. I think if you have a good head on on on your on your shoulders, right, you you get help eventually.
[0:33:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Now nobody wants to get twerking like Richard
[0:33:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. Yeah. No. No. No. Like I said, being humble, man. Look. We... We've we've seen... Look. He's rich. What... Vitalik is richer. The dude from Poker Dots is richer. Cardano dude is richer. But we don't see them flaunting what... Their their their money like this. If if he kept his mouth shut, kept his head down, he won't... Or lost everything, man. It's it's... He's on the Interpol list. Guys, do you know how insane that is, man? Guys, it's this this dude was was probably the most... Probably one of most flashy guys I've ever seen in my life, man. And I'm like, why? Like, what what, like, what are you doing, man? You are founder of a project. You... FBI is watching you, man. People are watching you. What are you doing? But, of course, man, everything's gone now. Just like that, man. It's gone. Just like that. He's not gonna get it back again. It's not it's not gonna happen. But I I... Guys, I've I've... I... Is he even in in The US? Is he overseas? I don't know, man. I mean, it's people lost so much money from Hex. There... There's a video of a guy. He put his life save... His life savings into Hex is down, like, 98% from all time high. I... Like I said, man, it's just it's just so unfortunate because he's a smart dude, man. But, the the the ego... That that ego that guys have. Right? When when when the money comes, you have to be able to control your emotions, man. And he just you know, I I always say this. All of us wanna make money. A lot of us don't deserve it. A lot of us don't don't have to handle the wealth. He was one of them because we've seen people that have three times more cash than he does. We don't see Michael Taylor buying a fucking Ferrari and wearing all Gucci outfits and doing stupid shit. They're like, why? It makes no sense to me, man. Like, it makes no sense because I guarantee you this dude had humble beginnings. But when the money comes, people lose his shit. It drives me crazy when I see that because I know he worked hard, man, to to build everything he built. Unfortunately, that money and fame, some people just can't... They they can't handle that shit, man. And it's just so unfortunate, man.
[0:35:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. My... If you guys remember it, my man was, like, literally Gucci'd out. You remember that picture I'm talking about? He literally had the whole getup, like, in front of his Ferrari with the gooch... Like, literally everything. Like, the gaudiest, cheesiest, just fucking... This is what you wanna flaunt. This is what you're about. Like, it's a... Like, you're a shallow, shallow human being. But, like, I just remember Hex and how captivating it was. And then when he came out with PulseChain, I remember going to certain spaces and being like, these motherfuckers are really out here pushing this shit. And you have people that are out there, like, literally pushing it. They're just like, no. No. No. No. We're gonna be up all night, we're gonna do this, this. And I'm just like, what is going on right now? Like, this is not normal behavior. But I think it just goes to show how, like, one figure can genuinely captivate and create a whole community and continue to perpetuate shit like this. Because it's not like he's stealing money from peep... I mean, yes, he's stealing money from people, but they're voluntarily going into these spaces. They're listening to him talk, and they're saying, okay. Yes. I want to invest my money into this. Why? I have no idea. But, Landy, what's your take on this whole HEX situation, PulseChain? I'm glad to see it just gone off all these centralized exchanges.
[0:36:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: The king of Ponzi schemes finally gets his tokens delisted. Look. I was very, very vocal. I was not known as Landy at that point. I was very, very vocal, when it came to Richard and, even had some some words with him directly. And, look, he was always threatened by people that understood exactly what he was doing from the moment he proposed it. He's the king of faking it until you make it, but he didn't make it because he wanted to create a successful token or a successful network. He made it because it was purely a Ponzi scheme that you have to keep running. If you don't... If you... Once it stops running, it all falls apart, and that's exactly what we saw happen. And and all of... We... Anybody who was around at this point knew a bear market will immediately pick apart this Ponzi scheme. And look, smart guy, charismatic. But one of the things that he seized on was, you know, a bit of the hybrid rapper look at me culture. Right? And and this was very, very popular at the time of flaunting how much you have and telling everyone else that they can make it. This was very popular in the crypto space. It's like, you know, come with me, and I'm gonna take you there. You know, I'm I'm an OG, this and that, and, you know, completely ignoring his history on chain. I'm I'm glad, that this is being taken care of. I'm sad for all of the people that that... You know, because there was a lot of people that came into the crypto space because of how big he got. They didn't understand even what this stuff was, and he grifted it. Now, of course, after the the... This grift, which is still, by the way, ongoing. I I was just in a space the other day where somebody was pitching me on PulseChain. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about, bro? Like, give me a break. But, you know, without getting too deep into Richard's history, he's gonna get what's coming to him. He knows this. It was always a game of chicken. He knew that it was gonna be a game of chicken, and now it's, you know, where can I go to make sure that I'm evading all of this? And, you know, that's not a life that, that I personally would ever wanna live because it doesn't matter how much money you have. You gotta constantly look over your shoulder now, and everyone that you meet is a potential risk. So, you know, it's... It can't be a very happy life. A lot of it is very, very much gonna be, you know, a a a sad ending for him, whether it's, you know... Even if he has money still and manages to live out his life, it's not a very nice existence. Money doesn't solve all problems. And and he set himself up and and and created an image and a character, and he he managed to pull a lot of people in. And the thing is is, like, he... Smart guy, but taking it all in all the wrong directions. So I'm glad to see that this is beginning to happen. I'm very, very sad to see that there's still a lot of people out there that will never get back their money, and they've gotten... They put in so much money, incredible amounts of money.
[0:39:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Like, you know you know you know you know what's crazy is? Have you ever seen anyone that goes this fast and maintains it? It always looks like every artist, rapper, musician, whatever that goes that fast life, they always crash and burn, man. It just seems like the people that just take it slow, no rush, take your time, have your money, raise your family, they last a lot longer. And that's kinda like when I'm pushing to people all the time. And, like, you know, this fast fast life, fast money, it doesn't... It's not sustainable.
[0:40:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Lost you cool. Was that just me?
[0:40:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. He he probably got a phone call.
[0:40:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. I was gonna... I'll just... I'll piggyback off what you're saying, Cole, just for a moment. Because one of the things is there's a clear delineation between the people who are in it for actually doing some good and creating not just wealth for themselves, but the... But for those around them by innovating and creating new technology, and then the get rich quick guys. And the get rich quick guys always end up taking the l. They have this amazing ascend. Right? The Ascendance is incredible every single time. You see it every single cycle in crypto. There's always those people, and then the crash and burn, you just wait for it, and they're they're pretty easy to pick out once you have a little bit of experience. But, yeah, I'll I'll throw it back to you, buddy. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.
[0:40:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. So... No. You you said it right. S... SBF was like that. SBF was getting his names on stadiums, was meeting with Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. This dude was... Well, yeah, the the the red carpets for him in DC. And, of course, they said if s b... SBF had played it the right way, it could have been one of the richest people on Earth. But, of course, same thing. It crashed and burned. I just... It... That... That's what drives me crazy. I know people work hard, man, at the beginning. At the beginning, they come from humble beginnings. But when that money comes, man, though, they lose their fucking minds, man. And it's it's it's... I don't know. That bothers me a lot. I know what it bothers me. It does. I don't know. I just... Don't know where it just... It... Because it got no... It it... It's it's hard for for people to build stuff. But when you now finally get there, you finally get what you want, you finally achieve that goal you've been fighting for for years, you just destroy it, man. It's fucking crazy, man.
[0:41:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's gonna be me and the gold horse going down 5th Avenue in New York City. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just gonna be chilling. Don't know what's gonna happen, but here's some of his lavish spending, FYI. So he was allegedly stole at least $12,000,000 that he spent on a one point... He spent 1,380,000 on a Rolex watch. Oh, fuck. I don't know what you're buying. A 534,916 on a McLaren sports car, and he also bought a $314,125 Ferrari Roma. Yeah. I don't know, man. Like, this is, like, this is a guy that You know what my
[0:42:34] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: spoil pages are on those things,
[0:42:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: bro? Honestly, like, it's just... It's sad to me. Right? Because these are the thing... The material things that he thinks define him and who he is, and that's, like, that's genuinely, like, what he was going after. That's what he stole money for. It is sad. Cool. You're right. Yeah. Money. Go for it, money.
[0:42:53] Voice M: Yeah. Really unfortunate to see that kind of shit. And I think, unfortunately, even more unfortunate is you you see that consistently across the board with a lot of these meme coins. The SEC, I expect, is gonna start cracking down on that shit once they establish some policies and regulations around that going into next year, because I think they're starting to realize that it's becoming a increasingly bad problem. I fortunately did not get caught up in any of that or the one I'm about to mention, but not sure if you guys have heard about this $4.84 limited deal where they pumped, what, yesterday. And I mean, there was, like, 10,000,000 in volume in a matter of, like, an hour or two and went up from... I think it was, you know, 100 k market cap, went up to, like, 2 mil, and then dev pretty much rugged on it and fleece people. And then I've looked at the, the creator's, wallet. I've received... He's, like, created, like, 37 different tokens. And, like, he's trying to claim that he has all these holding companies is this dude, Jordan. What the hell is it? Jordan Daily. It was, like, a million and a half followers. And they're like, yeah. You just screwed a lot of people out of a lot of money at Christmas time. Like, how do you look yourself in the fucking mirror?
[0:44:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That was screwed.
[0:44:04] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: You know, a lot of market makers are behind these meme coins. If you heard about it, like, Godbit founders got arrested Yeah. In Portugal.
[0:44:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:44:15] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: And then I know him, like, face to face. I've met couple times, and then I had... I I chatted with him, but we did not use any... We did not go in mem coins, and we did not... We decided not to go in this shitcoins to area or whatever market or whatever they call. So he was he was leaving in in... Even I went to the first meme meme con Mhmm. In May. I met him there the first time, and he was... He had a citizenship. He he he got money and start spending. He he got citizenship of Portugal, couple of villas, Ferrari, Porsche, and other cars, and then they brought friends from Russia and started, like, this kind of the the spending
[0:45:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:45:03] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Money on the luxury stuff. At the same time at the same time, if you go to YouTube and type his name in Russian, it... Was in the YouTube promoting how to meet and how to scam people That's crazy. In Russian language. Oh, I was like, what the hell? But And they got him they got him in in his house in in... Not Spain, Portugal, in his house. And then his friend, cofounder, got early notification or something. He got... He escaped, and they're still looking for him.
[0:45:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:45:34] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: At the same time, there is a charge against Yes. Other SEO as a market maker.
[0:45:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: So so so we so we'd have... We covered this actually, like, when it happened. We did a full, like, week long thing almost on this whole shit, like, sting operation.
[0:45:48] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: You have no idea. I have... I I I got I got the contacts of the the team members
[0:45:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:45:53] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: And wanted to offer their services for other projects. And that day that day, I start receiving messages, and I started calling... I start messaging the the team members of that project.
[0:46:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff.
[0:46:03] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: And they're like, oh, I'm not working. Like, one month ago, I I got fired or I left. I'm like, you you were, like, literally working, like, yesterday. Like, today, like, saying, like, one month ago, you got fired or left the company. Yeah. Imagine. I don't know what's happening there.
[0:46:20] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: I'll tell
[0:46:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: this much, though. It's it's it's it's craziness that that that that goes on out here. But, look, bringing it back to the whole, like, Richard Hart thing. Look. At the end of the day, like, my man's gonna have his day. Right? He's gonna... They're gonna find his ass. Like, it's just a matter of time. Like, I don't know. Who knows where the hell he's living? But, like like Cool said, right, like, this is the way you wanna live now? I don't know. Like, this isn't... This is no way to live. Like, you had it. Like, you were doing something decent. Right? You didn't have to scam anybody with it. And that's the other thing cool too. Right? It's like, you're smart enough. Like, you're so smart. Like, you're almost too smart for your own good where it's like, just apply that the other way. Like, why did you have to go the crooked route? You know what I mean? Like, you didn't have to do that. You didn't have to become a thief. You could literally earn the Theonos way. You probably could have even earned more money, but neither here nor there. It it is what it is, but I guess... Let's see. But there's a ton of other Richard hearts out there. Poly, Pepe, Pork. Yeah. I'm just saying Dave. There's a few. There's a few. Yep. Yeah..
[0:47:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro.
[0:47:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I was just saying No.
[0:47:20] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: The problem is that You're
[0:47:22] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: the future one of them.
[0:47:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. No. No. Not yet. Not yet.
[0:47:25] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: No. For... The problem is that even if you are a market maker, just work as a regulation... As a regulated market maker. And they were doing... Minting the Memcoin, buying
[0:47:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. But thousands of wallets.
[0:47:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thousands of wallets. Yeah. We're we're past it. I wanna get to the next story, though, bro. I thought I meant to cut you off,
[0:47:43] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: but Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.
[0:47:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead, brother. I appreciate it. Okay. Next story, Like, I don't know if y'all have been paying attention. So I guess maybe this is more, like, headline focus. Right? So pro crypto, senator Bernie Marino was now officially assigned to the senate banking committee. I saw this come across Cointelegraph about twenty minutes ago. We're seeing more and more pro crypto senators. You're seeing the house, and, I mean, I'm watching, literally, it implode from the inside. And people are accusing Elon of this and that manipulation, and it's just like... Marc Andreessen said it best. It was like, bro, you you know what Elon is guilty of? Stating the fucking obvious on a fucking platform. That's it. Like, what is Elon saying that is so crazy that people are just so up in arms? But this is what happens when you wanna fucking go against the establishment. This is essentially what is going on. But I love the fact that we're... Like, there were... Like, Trump is genuinely, like, installing, like, a lot of pro crypto p... Like, we've never had this ever. And I and I know we talked about this a lot, but this is really gonna, like, catapult us. So we might be, like, a little choppy from here until inauguration, but this is just me speculation. But I think after inauguration, you're gonna see these markets do some crazy fucking shit. And I mean, virus Bro, we're gonna be so rich. Yes. Alright, Samara. Take it easy. No. Dark virus, trust me. Like, from your lips to god's ears, bro, I I hope I wish. You know what I'm saying? I really do.
[0:49:13] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: No. It's factual, bro. It's gonna happen. I promise.
[0:49:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Thank you for promising. But, guys, obviously, like, pro crypto, amazing. Do you guys wanna comment on that? I feel like we we... We've touched on that stuff already. I kinda wanna get into the more juicy stuff where I've been I've been watching... I mean, wait. One other headline really quickly. X AI. So Grok is now gonna have its own standalone app, by the way. Elon just raised a series... Listen to this. A series c of $6,000,000,000 to accelerate his progress. Not a series a or a series b. It is a series c for $6,000,000,000. This just goes to show you, like, how many people are out here, like, believing, like, in Elon and what Elon is actually building, which is fucking kinda crazy. Some of the people that led that round was a sixteen z, BlackRock, Fidelity, Lightspeed, MGX, Morgan Stanley. You name it. It's everybody and anybody. Landy, do you like this? Look. I'm a big Elon fan, but do think the... Like, is this... Like, are are we good with this? Like, what do you think it's moving a little too fast? Like, and do we gotta maybe pump the brakes?
[0:50:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Brother, Look. President Elon is doing a fantastic job.
[0:50:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro. Look.
[0:50:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I gotta take shots at that. One, first off, like, anybody that's saying that shit out there, like, one of the main reasons that that freaking Unity ticket succeeded is because of Elon. People absolutely wanted what Elon is doing right now. And the other big thing is is we know that Elon wants to be an honest actor in the AI marketplace. Right? This is one of the reasons why he's able to raise this kind of money. This is amazing. And I think that, this is going to push the x platform forward. And, of course, we know that this is just one aspect of what he wants to create, out of the x platform. Right? He also wants... He wants to be the everything platform, including payments. And look. They are greasing the rails. They are making sure that they've got all the right people to go into these positions to make sure that crypto is successful. And look. That does not equal... And I want to... I'm the market, you know, guru guy in all of the spaces. Right? Everybody's looking at Atlanta. He's the TA guy. It doesn't mean, oh, hey. Alpha gamer. What's up? My clone is on stage wearing a wizard outfit. Look. And and also, Alpha is very, very good at markets too, and you know this. That doesn't always equal price go straight up to the moon, but it is going to prime for things to continue to be, profitable, to continue to see success in market... In the crypto market in terms of price. That being said, they are prepping a lot of headwinds for this entire administration. Will they be successful? Likely not. But what, many fail to understand is Democrats and and the opposition and the Republican party understand that this is the way that things are gonna go no matter what. So it's a matter of how how can we slow things down so that we can get it down a piece of the action too even if we have to take the adversarial side of things just so that we can also get in now too. It... It's... I think that we are in a a kind of a a a a singularity moment. I use singularity too much. I gotta figure out a different phrase. But we're in a we're in a moment where... In time where we get to experience something extremely unique, and that is the changing of the entirety of our society when it comes to money. And now introducing way richer access to AI, which will eventually help us to increase our wealth over time if handled correctly. I think he's the right guy to do it. I really do. We'll see if that we'll see if that remains true. I I actually... You know, I'm I'm in the bag. I'm in the tank, so I can't see out of my bubble. Other people gotta, you know, pop that bubble for me if I'm if I'm out of my lane, but I feel like I'm not. I... I'm I'm on my skis, and I'm ready to, to ride these markets. And I'm excited about AI. Like, Dave, you... Credit to you all the stuff you're doing with AI stuff because I wasn't that interested. And I've become way more interested to the point now where I'm literally aping every virtuals I possibly can. I'm on every chain looking for AI stuff. I'm over on Soul looking at swarms and that kid. Is this gonna be successful? Is this thing over here gonna... And now I've I've, I've I've spent a lot of dry powder on AI. Let's put it that way. So, yeah, I need this to be successful, please. I don't wanna go I don't wanna go back to to to having to pick up lunches from the from the local shelter.
[0:54:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. I'll tell you this ain't good shit, Landy. Yo. I'm telling you, Graca's coming to eat. I remember specifically on the reset two years... Almost two years ago, and we were talking about ChatGPT versus... When Grok first came out, I was like, man, literally, Grok was telling you that it was using OpenAI's API. We were just like, what the fuck is this shit? Like, get out of here with this. Look at what, like like, how... What a difference, like, a year or, like, sixteen months makes in how fast these things learn, how powerful they can be. And for those that don't know, Elon has a 100,000 of these fucking top top top NVIDIA GPUs that are powering this whole shit. And it is now going to be its own... Grok is gonna be its own standalone app, available in a bunch of different jurisdictions. But this is what Elon envisioned. Right? And I would rather, like, look at what the fuck Sam Altman has been doing recently. But... Excuse me. Looking at what Sam Altman has been doing recently, I would much rather, much, much rather, like, the biggest, baddest, like, AI on the block be in Elon's hands as opposed to Sam Altman's hands because, I mean, you you don't need to be a genius to... You don't even need to read between the lines to see Sam Altman, Elon, Ilya, and all those dudes, they started out with one mission. Sam Altman decided, fuck that mission. I wanna make a fuck ton of money. Fuck this not for profit shit. I need to make a hell of a bag. And this is the then this is the thing that people genuinely don't get about Elon, my in opinion. It's just like, the man doesn't fucking work for money. Are y'all stupid? Like like, he could give two fucks about money. He's got more money than God. He doesn't care.
[0:56:00] Voice L: They Yeah.
[0:56:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Remember remember what he told Bob in that open... What was that, where he was speaking on stage? Yep. And and he literally... Where... I forgot how it went, but it's something along the lines of, you're gonna blackmail me with money? Are you fucking serious?
[0:56:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you.
[0:56:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Go fuck yourself. Right.
[0:56:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hi, Bob.
[0:56:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: He literally told... Yeah.
[0:56:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: He's like, hi, Bob. You know? Like, literally told... Said the guy's name out loud and said, like, go fuck yourself if you think you're gonna blackmail me with money. You know? Like, he really doesn't give to... Like, he's not about that. Right? Like, think of even, like, Twitter. Right? The... Look look how much money Elon spent just for the people to have freedom of speech. Think about that. What he paid? $54,000,000,000? Just, you know... I mean, he Yeah. Yeah. Basic... You know, like, he's just, okay. Here. Here's 54,000,000,000. You know?
[0:56:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Alpha, here's the best part. Is that judge that held him to that when he was trying to negotiate it down just further fueled everything that we have just seen. Helped get him elected, helped make us the media, helped kill all the other media. Like, it's amazing how it all played out.
[0:57:14] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And everything turned out.
[0:57:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[0:57:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Exactly.
[0:57:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. I hear from Vincent. I know, Vincent, you came up. I'd love to hear you kinda chime in. I know you probably shouldn't have chime in on the Grok and AI combo.
[0:57:25] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: Yeah. That was... I was chatting with some folks earlier, and it kinda came down to, you know, OpenAI's version, how it's centralizing all this data. You know, you're losing some of your potential privacy, how it... You can actually... It can create a portfolio of you based on what you're, you know, prompting and things like that, where is this gonna actually drive more centralization and lose your ability for your privacy versus choosing, say, a decentralized, you know, chat GPT version or or large language model that you can run privately from your laptop or or vice versa so that you can try to to build it, you can use it, but still retain some of your privacy and your data yourself. Because part of the concern was what are what are people asking chat GPT? Are they asking it how to treat an STD? You know? And then it's taking that and compiling your health information, you know, or whatever it might be. Right? So are they... They can create a whole profile based on you, and you're giving them the information to do that. Or should we be choosing decentralized versions of these so that we can maintain our privacy?
[0:58:36] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Fax.
[0:58:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wasn't... What... Wasn't Sam Altman also part of that that WorldCoin where they were scanning everyone's irises? He is. Isn't he part of that too?
[0:58:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: He is the WorldCoin, bro. Like, that's exact... That is his.
[0:58:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's his that's his Right?
[0:58:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. Because essentially...
[0:58:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So so Vincent... Yeah. So Vincent's here talking about, you know, them pulling your data. He's literally stealing your eyeballs. I mean, think about that. He's like, screw the data. I'm taking your fucking...
[0:59:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. But alpha gamer, I don't know if it... If you're rugging a little bit, but let's...
[0:59:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm taking your bull...
[0:59:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, rugging. Yeah. Alpha gamer, let's not let's let's not kid ourselves now. Okay? Everybody with a motherfucking iPhone has already given Apple the keys to their whole fucking genome already, probably. Like, what do you mean? You put your phone up to your face, facial scan, the whole nine yards. They got it already, bro. So it's either Jacob or Sam Altman.
[0:59:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: How you know?
[0:59:31] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Yeah. But facial scan is not iris
[0:59:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: scan. I
[0:59:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gammy, you're rubbing really bad, bro. We can't hear you.
[0:59:39] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: Must be in New York.
[0:59:42] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: I I think they've already got most of my profile just from my Pornhub data. Yep.
[0:59:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: They got everybody.
[0:59:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Guys, if you think that incognito mode really saves you from anything, you fucking idiots, I promise you it doesn't. Google still sees what you're going to fucking see, you fucking freak. Shout out. We listen, but we don't judge. Okay? We listen, but we don't judge. Yeah. Millie taught me that. Shout out to Millie. Okay. Yeah. Wait. Gamer, come on. Gamer, I shot you an invite back up. You were rugging really bad, bro. Let me see if Gamer wants to come up on and let him finish his thought.
[1:00:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, look. World World Coin at the end of the day, you're right. Like, Vince, that's what it is. It's like, what... Like, do people actually... Like, they're putting in... I mean, I know this personally as well. Right? There's sometimes that I forget, like, who I'm talking to and what I'm doing that I'm just like, I put in some crazy shit. Right? Like, I'll put in, like, super personal stuff. Right? I think I even put in some of my, like, my API keys for, like, my my exchange feeds, and I'm like, listen. I need you to code this for me because I need code written. I'm just like, yeah. I don't know where to click here or there. I don't know how to use a terminal. Just like, here's my here's my keys. Can you just, like, include it in the code? And they're like, yeah. Typically, you wouldn't wanna do this. When GPT is telling you, typically, you don't wanna do that, yeah, but they're still taking the info, it is what it is. Right? Like, listen. It happens. Yeah. But, yeah, that's gonna hit. I mean... Yeah. Anybody... Wait. You never come back in photo?
[1:01:20] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: Jeez. You gave you gave your GP the API key? Really?
[1:01:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, let me tell you something. Don't tell me, Darkraj, that you have not fucking... You definitely sent your... You've texted yourself as fucking seed phrase to a wallet for sure Never. Just so you didn't have to write it down. Ever. That's bullshit. Screenshot Bullshit.
[1:01:37] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: All my... Yeah. Don't ever check my Amazon photos.
[1:01:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Thank you very much. Are we all up on stage here gonna pretend that we've never... That all of us have never done that? Sometimes you're lazy and you're like, yeah. This wallet, I don't really know what it's gonna be, and you write down or you take a screenshot or you put it in a note thing. Right now, I want everybody to be honest. Samara, cool, Landy?
[1:01:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. I... I've I've taken screenshots of my Steve face, but, man, but I got zero balance on on those things, man. So... No. No. The the the main wallets never... Oh, I have a three safes, and they're written down in three separate places. The the the main accounts now, that doesn't... You know, all my seed phrases, like, you know, with the wife, I have one and somewhere else, man. So... No. No. No. No. Never ever take a screenshot of your of your seed phrase, man. You hear me? No? Yeah. Yeah. No. I got you. Yeah.
[1:02:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We got you. We got you.
[1:02:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yep. Alright.
[1:02:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Don't please don't take a screenshot of Steve Frasse. That was a bad idea, man. Very bad idea.
[1:02:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, can I can I piggyback off of this? This is a good opportunity because Landy actually learned very early on not to do this, but I also had the benefit.
[1:02:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Third person. I love it.
[1:02:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I had... Yeah. I know because I'm a psychopath. Anyway...
[1:02:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. I'm I'm air gapped all the hell, and I've been doing this for a long, long time. And one of the big things that I have to warn you about because I've seen this go around, and there's a fairly recent example that while this might not be how they got compromised, there's... There was a a big rash of people using password managers to save their seed phrases in these password manager wallets. Right? And and... Or these password manager platforms that are usually... Well, if if you have them set to upload, they are cloud connected. And we all know, like, OnePass and many other, password managers have been compromised. And via compromising that, they were able to compromise emails. So even if you update it and they update the password manager stuff, they're going through your emails. They might have access to that. It's very, very difficult to get them out once they have that access and it's leaked, to the dark web or that information is sold. Never ever ever have your seed phrases or your private keys in any kind of... In your... On your iPhone, in your camera roll, on the cloud, in Google. Look. It... It's to the point now where even your Google Authenticator, by the way, syncs with the cloud. Alright? So you can think that you're safe even with two f a. And I've always told everyone that I can... That I've screamed this from the mountaintops. Turn off the cloud syncing if you're using Google two FA and rotate everything again. Even, like, stuff like that. I am hyper hypervigilant when it comes to this stuff. Now what I will say is is there is hot wallets, and I will always connect hot wallets, but I don't keep much in them. And it's for the... It's for these reasons. Like, I keep the bare minimum amount. And some, if I buy, like, NFTs or coins and and I'm afraid, like, hey. There's a new sketchy platform. I'll sandbox, and I'll connect on a completely different computer that is sandboxed. And Windows has sandbox features. There's VirtualBox and virtual machines, all kinds of stuff in Mac and Linux and Windows that you can do this with. But I... Even even then, with all of my wallets that I like buy coins that I know I wanna hold for a long time, but I want it to be a hot wallet, I take all of the main chain funds out. For instance, if you're on Stacks network, I have no Stacks in, like, 99% of those wallets that I'm holding coins and NFTs in. Or the same thing goes with Bitcoin and ordinals because drainers are everywhere.
[1:05:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: We... Something happened this morning. Right? Lindy in the group chat I saw on stats, saw people were, like, sounding the alarm like crazy.
[1:05:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Unfortunately, there's... You know, somebody had... It it seemed as though in some manner, somebody had their wallet drained. Seemingly, it was, an... A situation where somebody had obtained the private key. How they obtained that private key, whether it was via cloud or if it was via, you know, session stealing or malware or whatever it might have been. Maybe a click on a link or an ad that that loads in a web browser that was malicious, whatever. Right? The the point being is there's some really good best practices to follow, and most people in crypto don't follow them. I'm hypervigilant only because I've been around before crypto really became a thing. Right? And and a lot of these things had to be discovered in the way that that, that people would exploit the way that crypto and blockchain technology works and the way that wallets work and stuff like that. So it's very, very important to me personally as as you know, Dave, specifically in the Stacks ecosystem where I've I've had a lot of these conversations. But then it goes way beyond the Stacks ecosystem. It's just, like, understanding your... Understanding the the principles of security. And this is one of the barriers of of entry for new entrants into crypto is not understanding how to handle this stuff. And that's why centralization, believe it or not, does have a place for many people until they learn about how to handle this stuff for themselves, and that's... It pains me to say this. But it's really important because AI is the next thing that will be able to take all of this from you because people can create AI scripts and session stealers just... I can create one right now. I'm looking at at at AIs that code that I could create a session stealer. I could pop up a website that's got a WalletConnect feature, and then all of a sudden, your stuff is gone. And it's just easier. Anybody can do it.
[1:07:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Landy, wasn't that the last big scam was they put, what, $50,000 on a AI agent's wallet and had it... And put it in charge, and then someone was able to write up the the
[1:07:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. That was, like, a competition that, like, they actually... That that was, like, scripted for them to actually try
[1:07:40] Voice M: and get the agent. Right? Yeah.
[1:07:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wasn't it a hackathon?
[1:07:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: And somebody somebody was actually able to do it and actually To do it. In and and to essentially reset the AI's, like like like, default, like, prompts. Like... Know what I mean? So that's definitely a big deal. Yeah. Good good stuff, Landy. They definitely... You definitely agree. Like, guys, you know what we should start doing? We should start doing, like, security fire drills and shit because I know that every time I start hearing shit like that, and I'm just like, oh my god. We gotta hear this again. You tell me people didn't hear this enough? But in reality, we don't pra... We hear it enough, but we don't practice it enough. So you know what? We're gonna be doing some fucking security fire drills up in this motherfucker coming up in the next couple weeks. How do you like them apples?
[1:08:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And, Dave, to to your point, like, there's people who have been in the crypto game for a long time. You still get got because, like
[1:08:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah.
[1:08:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: One of the most popular things on Discord is to try and get community collaboration managers because they can send them like, hey. We wanna partner up with your project. They'll send them like, hey. Here's here's our our our airdrop list or here's our templates. And then they'll get them into Google, and they've got it loaded up with malicious software. So, like, these guys, I think they're getting some, some really good co... Community collab managers on stage to discuss their security practices because they've been got. So they know how to navigate, and and they know all of the little tricks of the trade. And I actually had to learn a lot from them as well because there's always a new way to do it, and AI is powering a lot of it now. It's crazy, Dave.
[1:09:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's crazy. Trust me. I know. We'll we'll get Michael in here. Michael comes on the reset on Sundays all the time from a wallet guard who's now with consensus. So we'll definitely get him up we'll definitely get him up in here for sure. But I saw... Let me go top Brad, Vincent, and Artie. But top Brad, welcome. I don't think we've spoken before. Welcome to a t... To ATC.
[1:09:24] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: Yes, Dave. Cool. The rest of you here. Pretty pretty good room. A lot of people. Yeah. I think this is the first time we've spoken here. I'm a I'm a real old guy. I've been around the block before before... Yeah. A long time ago. And and the the few that have... Three or four that that spoke right before me could not have prompted it any better for me. And and, you know, it just... This just takes three minutes because this is probably gonna be the most unpopular.
[1:09:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Three minutes. I I need you shorter than three minutes. Stop, Brad. We got stories to get through. Okay.
[1:10:00] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: I can do I can do it 11 and... 137. Okay. It will never work. It's too complicated. I used to... I... Like I said, I was... Before this was even around, just in the last few years of my life has the whole crypto thing even become crypto. But I don't know what I don't know. Okay? I think we need to get away from the copper matrix. Somebody said, I I don't wanna go back to deliver... Picking up lunches for myself. Yeah. You do. You wanna get back to real human face to face. Don't let any sort of manipulation beyond on a copper matrix, which is what this stuff is, control or even have any access to your real life. We wanna get back to the days when we did things for each other. We shook hands. We looked each other in the eye. We laughed together. We cried together. The closer you can get back to that, I think the better for everybody. I was in a room this morning. The guy was talking about Solana. He had Solana 1.3... He was deficient... Divestiture all over the place, but he had 1,300,000 in Solana. Well, he did some sort... I don't even know the term. He did some sort of transaction. Suddenly, thirty seven minutes later, he goes and looks, his Solana is gone. Zero. It's too complicated, guys. The best way to get back to anything you call true value is gold, the physical gold bullion, or silver bullion. That... I I I have some right now. You laughed. I am holding some right now that I can hold, and I have value. What do you have? Bitcoin.
[1:11:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Have an
[1:11:38] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: electronic you have an electronic number.
[1:11:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's right, though, Dave. You have to know that. Will have Whatever. Have Send him down. Send him down. We are not gonna get into the gold versus Bitcoin discussion right here right now, motherfuckers. Okay? But, hey, noted... Where'd he go? What happened to him? I did not kick him down for the record. I didn't... I was actually gonna have a conversation with this dude.
[1:11:59] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: He totally... I was gonna lie. Down. I've seen it. Look.
[1:12:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: The the the horse and buggy crew is
[1:12:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: really He he lost connection.
[1:12:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Is is what I was messaging you, Dave. Just to get
[1:12:09] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:12:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I understand them very, very well because I come from that world before crypto. So, yeah, they... They're they're very difficult to, help. It's very difficult to help them understand what this is and how it works. And there's many ways that I can scam people out of their gold and silver. Trust me. Remember those 800 numbers?
[1:12:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's it's not it's not even about that. Right? You you have to think about the the age you're in right now. We're in the age of the young people. Young people took... Trump's son, the youngest one, he's not buying gold, man. My son is 11 years old when he's he's 18, 19. He's not buying gold or silver. I mean, we need new age of technology, man. We... That makes no sense. Like, saying, gonna keep riding horses and cars are are crap. Come on, man. It's it's it's Dave, I I have
[1:12:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the perfect chart. All you gotta do is there's already a chart that that proves this... What you're talking about, it's already been dealt with. It's already over. All you gotta do is look up BlackRock, Bitcoin ETF versus gold ETF.
[1:13:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:13:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Block block that on a chart. No. I'll And the visual the visualization you're gonna see is that the Bitcoin ETF has smashed gold in in in months compared to gold ETF in years.
[1:13:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: It took it took one year for Bitcoin to do what gold is doing. Exactly.
[1:13:35] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: You gave me...
[1:13:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: And, like like, this discussion, man, it makes no... It's it's like me trying to argue. It's like me driving a Honda Civic, and I'm and I'm and I'm a tell my neighbor, I I Honda Civic's a
[1:13:46] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: good car.
[1:13:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: A Honda Civic cannot defeat a a a a Ferrari, man, the race. So this discussion makes no sense. I'm not even gonna entertain it, man, bro. It's up to you, bro. If you wanna entertain it, I'll No.
[1:14:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not trying to entertain. Let me let me... Yeah. Let me let Vincent go.
[1:14:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro. Bro, you you you think you... Look at how insane Peter Schiff is.
[1:14:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:14:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: Can you imagine someone still be embarrassed on an asset class that he saw at $1, the greatest...
[1:14:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: A dollar. Yeah.
[1:14:18] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: Dollar. It it... It's it's...
[1:14:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: It is mind bending to me that someone could say big... That makes no sense. He sold it to
[1:14:24] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: us on.... Which is the...
[1:14:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: You... Just imagine the people that live in in Togo or Ghana that make $40 a month. Are they buying Bitcoin, bro? Come on, man. Like... Or gold? Are are you sick? Bro, I... Listen.
[1:14:40] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: It's the Amish.
[1:14:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: Makes no sense, man. Like like like, I I can't argue with someone. I'm driving I'm driving a Honda. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm telling my neighbor, I'll I'll beat you in a race, bro. You have Ferrari.
[1:14:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Come on, man. I gotta
[1:14:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: steal it.
[1:14:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: So here's Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Guys.
[1:14:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Guys. Guys. Guys. Guys. Add to that.
[1:14:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: The Wait. Wait. Vincent's had his hand up forever. Vinny, go for it. Then you guys can chime in, please.
[1:15:05] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: Hi, gold and silver. No. I'm just kidding. No. I gotta...
[1:15:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: If I Alright. Kick them
[1:15:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: off. If
[1:15:12] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: I'm investing in it, I'm putting it around my neck. But... Yeah. No. Getting back to what kinda what Landy was talking about with some of the security measures and stuff. I've mentioned it to Landy before since the bases, but if you guys don't have a Yubico key, man, it's another layer of security that you have to have a physical device to approve logging in to your email accounts and stuff. So even if you have two f a, a lot of times when... Even I'm logging in from a new IP address and accessing my email accounts, it's always gonna prompt me that I have to log in using my Ubico key. So add that layer of security. It's well worth it to add them to all of your accounts. Even if you add them to... The beautiful thing is if you're using Coinbase and a lot of these other exchanges, you can set them up on there. So you can't even transfer funds off of that exchange to yourself without adding or, touching your Ubico to your device. So that's an extra layer of security for you guys.
[1:16:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate it. Thanks, bro. Alpha, give me one second. RD, did you wanna chime in on on anything before I go to gamer... Alpha gamer?
[1:16:23] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: Oh my gosh, Dave.
[1:16:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: How are doing, bro? You too. What's good?
[1:16:26] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: It's been it's been a minute. So when I came in, you're talking about the government. So it... There's gonna be sweeping changes, bro Yeah. Yeah. And I can't wait for it. It's so it's so corrupt. You know, it's all about holding the power. Nothing about the... Us, the people. The latest thing I just saw was before congress can pass any kind of bill, it's gonna have to have seven days on the public domain in in data... In, you know, data form so that we can use AI to go over it and get all the bullshit out of it. There'll be no more pork spending, dude. None. You watch. None. They're gonna have to put up a bill by itself to pay whatever that that they're doing for their community, that senator. No more hiding shit. You know what I mean? It's gonna be awesome, bro. But can I pin the answer up to security, up to the top It's real the shield it's the shield folio? And if you guys have never heard of the shield folio, you really need to get you one. Dang. I lost it already. Same. But our buddy, Stoney, invented this thing because his his wife threw away his deep phrase wallet.
[1:17:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love this. Shout out to Tony. Shout out to Tony.
[1:17:38] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: Yeah. So he invented that. And I'm cooking steak. Sorry. And if you don't have one, you should get one. They're they're really cheap. They're made out of stone, crushed rock, so they don't... You can't get them wet. You can't tear them. You can't burn them. I've got, like, four now. I've actually got a special one from Sony's. It's got a, like, a NFT on it. We could do some giveaways, actually, guys.
[1:18:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, I I can get Sony to send me a bunch, and we could do a bunch of giveaways with with some Shield Folio stuff. So Yeah. I appreciate you bringing that back up, Artie. Thank you, man.
[1:18:12] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: Yeah. That's the way to go, man. Put all your seed phrases in that book, and then you'll have that book to give to your wife or your kid or whatever so that they can get to your crypto when you can't. You know what I mean? So that's real important too that, you you know, you don't just you don't just leave it. And then what... I wanna say the gold and silver thing real quick. Man, you can't put any amount of gold or silver or cash for that matter on a plane and travel around, but you've always got your phone in your pocket and your credit card. You know what I'm saying? You can travel with billions of dollars on your phone. So
[1:18:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: God bless, say, to billions of dollars. I was traveling around with billions of dollars in our pockets. Gamer, go for it, bro. Thanks, Zardy. My cousin is,
[1:18:51] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: bro. So
[1:18:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm I'm I'm with Landy, you know, where I'm like, yeah. I used to be the same, you know, hard metal guy, scarcity... You know, because that's... You know, scarcity is the name of the game. Right? You know, it's kinda like, why is real estate, you know, always going up? And, you know, the answer is simple. It's it's real simple, actually. And all I do... Like, when people bring... Ask me, okay. Well, why don't I just get real estate? I'm like, yeah. Real estate's good, but it's a slow progression up. And the demand side of that is as long as humans have babies, real estate will have value. Right? And a lot of people take some time to think about that, and they're like, well, what what do you mean as long as humans have babies? Well, that's the demand. People are always gonna want somewhere to live. Therefore, real estate will always have value the more babies that are here on Earth. And last time I checked, humans are always having babies. So therefore, real estate
[1:19:49] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:19:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Kinda like Bitcoin. Right? It's gonna go up. But the thing with gold, though... So I'm not I'm not hating on gold. Right? But it's just... It's not the fastest horse, and you just dig deeper to find more, which is what Pukele of El Salvador just proved with that $3,000,000,000,000 supply gold mine that they just uncovered. Right? You can't do that with Bitcoin. You can't just dig into the earth and find, oh, there's $3,000,000,000,000 of the supply here. Oh, you know?
[1:20:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: I I probably... I I do I do have a question for you. Right? So if you know this, right, the the dude that came earlier talking about this gold thing, he knows about the the... I think he does. Maybe he does know about the old gold thing in El Salvador. If they know about all this stuff, why do they keep still pushing gold? Is it because they have so much money invested in it? They can't see anything else? Is that why?
[1:20:44] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. That that that plus plus, you know, it's we're we're humans of habit. Right? So once someone gets into the the mindset that this way, right, gold is the way. There is no other way. I am the Peter Schiff gold of the world. There is no second best to gold. Right? Once you're in that mindset and and you just closed your mind, that... That's what it is. Right? And and that's the big barrier, I think, that Lanny brought up before. You know? It's it's a mental barrier. If you really... You know, the reason why it's so hard to get the older communities to shift over is is because they're set in their ways. Right? And it's hard for them to to make that leap into, like, the unknown of Bitcoin of, like, well, you know, this... Yeah. I mean, think about it. Right? Like, I'm old enough to to use a pager. Right? And so you're talking about people that were were older than that. You know? Like, you're you're trying to go from, like, the pager to to, you know, the web three, and these people are like, what is going
[1:21:47] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: on with
[1:21:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: all this?
[1:21:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: 17 year old girlfriend. Hit me on the hip, baby. Beep. Beep. Beep. And
[1:21:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: and, you know... Oh, and and remember, and and it's not just El Salvador. There was also that gold mine in Africa. Was it Uganda? Or somewhere in Africa, they also found another gold mine. So, I mean, these gold mines are popping up all over the place. So you wanna talk about diluting the supply. Right? There you go. You know? But... And and that's... And for a lot of gold people, that's what they latch on to. Because, actually, I did convert a gold bug at my work, and he and he's, like, 72. Like, we keep telling him to, you know, leave and go away, and then he's like, no. I have too much fun here. But, anyway, that's a different story. But he's a a big
[1:22:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: How old are you, alpha gamer?
[1:22:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Copper gold
[1:22:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: are you, gamer? Goddamn. I didn't know that.
[1:22:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Goddamn. Messaging gold guy, and I converted him. I converted him because he understood scarcity. That's where I got him. You you... So all this other stuff, right, it's too comp... Like like, he was right. It's too complicated. But the one thing they do understand is hard asset. Scarcity.
[1:22:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: They understand that. You're gonna have a hard time with Cool. Cool. I don't even want to chime in because Cool is literally fucking taking his crypto gains and literally going out and buying house after house after house. Like, he's investing it in those hard assets. So I think it's like that... Like, I think that's the perfect example of how you kinda make those two work for you. Right? Yeah. Darkfighters, go for it, and then we'll go to... We'll go over to Landy.
[1:23:17] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: No. I agree with... Actually, I agree with everybody. I mean, the only reason I would do gold... You ever play fallout? You know? That's about the only reason. You know? Well, that and bottle caps maybe. But, man, cripples the way to go. But if the lights go out, that's all I'm saying.
[1:23:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're... Doug, man, I can't with you, bro. You're too fucking good. Landy, go for it, bro.
[1:23:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, my my twin brother, Alpha Gamer, said 99% of what I was gonna say. But
[1:23:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then some and then another 55% and another 34% and another 27%, of flexi.
[1:23:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. Like, it it it... The the whole conversation surrounding this has been beat to death. We all already know this here as people who have been keeping track of this for a long time or involved in crypto in any way are converted. But, you know, I mean, it... Look. Gold is gonna have its place. And if, if electricity, you know, was was going to go away and never come back, then that's when you're gonna need that. We're we're talking about much bigger problems than how much is on my leisure at that point. Right? But even then, there will always be a way in which you can revive it. So, you know, this whole conversation surrounding this stuff is is kind of a dead end conversation. One of the big things, like, that we know about Peter Schiff is his son is massively into crypto. So that that is a game. A lot of people forget that he has a company to protect. That's one of the reasons why he trolls the way he does. He's well aware of everything that's going on in the gold market. And I think, you know, this... Eventually, what it really comes down to is with with onboarding new people, when it comes to security kind of stuff, that's where centralized exchanges and custodians do play a vital role. And I know that everyone hates that, and I said it already. But they do. They play a vital role. And then it's up to... You know, at that point, it's either up to, because the centralized custodians don't have a vested interest in education about how to take and and secure this yourself and take custody. It's up to many people in the community and and prominent proponents of decentralization to teach people about that, and that's really what it comes down to. And security will always be an issue. It's always been an issue, and it's not crypto unique. So that's that's pretty much it.
[1:25:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Alright.
[1:25:40] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: Let's go. Them heels.
[1:25:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Seriously. Like... And, like, elementary fucking ATC is done. Alright? Like, I'm... We... It's crazy we gotta keep talking about this. Like, it it... I do hate it in the sense. I know that it's a necessary evil, but I really do hate it because, you know, I... Yeah. Watch me get taken fucking today. Watch me connect my wallet to some wild shit just fucking karma. But, yeah, go ahead, Vincent. Wrap it up. Well, you you can go, like, quick take, please, and then we'll go on to the next story.
[1:26:06] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: If the lights are going out, man, I'm not gonna give a shit about gold or silver. I'm gonna be buying cigarettes, alcohol, coffee. Yeah. That's gonna be the currency of choice at the time.
[1:26:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hell, yeah. Guns. See real? We got your guns.
[1:26:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Man, we're go... We're going back to prison.
[1:26:21] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: Can't a family, you know, with gold and silver. You know? Guns. Lots of guns.
[1:26:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guns don't kill people.
[1:26:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You pay me you pay me one cigarette. I give you two cigarettes back.
[1:26:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. We love this Galphagamer math. We love it. We love it. On that one. Guys, last two things we're gonna talk about, because, you know, we didn't talk about pizza pets this whole time, so you better damn well believe we're gonna talk about fucking pizza pets. And stay tuned. Pizza pet space is coming up. Told almost to the pizza pet. Oh my god. Dark virus, you hang on the fucking hat. Oh. You grab you grab your fucking socks, virus. You stay right there. Don't you worry about it. We're gonna tell you all you need to know about fucking Pizza Pets. It is the best goddamn game on chain since sliced fucking bread. Bread is an option. About Paja? Yeah. I did. I saw... See, we're gonna get there. Give me one second. Give
[1:27:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: me Give 61, bro. Oof.
[1:27:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: That... That's a killer. Yeah. Tony, said
[1:27:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: he had three sets
[1:27:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: of 11.
[1:27:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Good dude.
[1:27:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I know. I know. I know. But last thing I wanna say, I saw Publius come in here, hop in here, and I wanted him to come up, but he but he did. But have you guys been seeing, like, Eternal AI and a lot of these other, like, AI agents now that are across all of these different chains? You now have Eternal AI that is not only building, like, an AI agent 10,000 PFP collect... NFT collection that represents an agent, but they're also launching these different agents on Bitcoin, ZK Sync, Base. I I think it's it's Ethereum. I think those are the ones to start off with. And, I mean, this stuff looks pretty decent, but... I'm not trusting it with a crazy amount of money. But I'm curious. Has anybody ever... Has has anybody taken a deep, deep dive into this, or has any maybe a little bit more info? Because I just I'm making seeing this all the time like yesterday.
[1:28:00] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: Now, bro. I'm making one right now. That's all I'm gonna say.
[1:28:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it. Landy, have you been playing around with this gamer? Any of you guys have been playing around with these AI agents on, whether it's Bitcoin or, I know I've I've... We... We've we've obviously talked about AI b tc.dev. Right? Like, that whole crew and what you're able to do there. But... And and and have you guys seen internal AI or any of these others?
[1:28:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've I've only just started to get to reading about it and learning about it, so I haven't had a chance to actually play with anything just yet. I've been... Because there's so much stuff hitting all at once. And I think you brought up in a spaces event or you did a spaces event about swarm agents and, like, that concept, and now that's out there on Solana. And then we've got this, and then there's all kinds of new stuff happening with everybody just launching every type of AI thing that they possibly can. Like, it is really the twelve days of Christmas AI agents. It's kinda nuts. So, yeah, I'd have to defer to everybody else because I'm only just getting my feet wet with it.
[1:29:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It... It's gonna be some crazy shit, and I just got off the phone right before we started ATC. After I'm I'm off the phone here, I'm gonna get on with my buddy, and we are going to essentially give Junie the capabilities to... Essentially, you... You're gonna... It's gonna be Junie Pizza Pet. Right? You're gonna be able to talk to... Junie's gonna be able to talk to Bitcoin blockchain. She's gonna be able to query ordinals, your address, your inscription numbers, the whole nine yards. We created, like, a little notification system as well. I don't know how we're gonna roll that out, but we saw... I saw what people put in the chats and everything else. And, look, I I love this. Right? Like, this is what I genuinely love is, like, seeing, like, what people come up with. And there's ancillary businesses everywhere here, but, I think it can help on so many different levels. But, yeah, Junie's been a little out of commission lately. Y'all seen her. She's going through a little bit of a rebrand, little identity crisis. Just deal with it. It is what it is. But cool. Let me ask you a question. Are you... Would you trade with these AI agents? Like, would you trust AI, like, AI agents, like, managing your money or a wallet? Yeah. Yeah. I I I
[1:30:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: think I I I definitely will, man. But it won't be a lot of money, though, just in case, man. It will be a small amount of money and no problem. I I... You know, that's... There's nothing wrong with with trying stuff. Right? That's like you've saying about how you need to open minded in crypto for real. The... Wanna do the fastest way to miss out on opportunities is be close minded. So I'm down for that. As long as you don't put your life savings and listen AI trade for you, that makes no sense. Of course, I'm willing to learn the AI trade for me for sure.
[1:30:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that, bro. Yep.
[1:30:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So so, yeah, I I agree with Cole. I'm well, because I'm on the the full risk side of the curve. Like, I don't mind taking on... You know, making the leap of faith and trying... You know, being the first beta tester, you know, testing stuff out, trying, you know, trying to break stuff. You know, that... That's kinda my my thing. Right? But the the reward side of that is I qualify for damn near all the airdrops because I am the the beta tester for, you know, everything. But I agree. You know, I'm I'm gonna try try some of this stuff out, put some money in there, and see what... You know? I mean, damn. If these agents can turn a $100 into $10,000, you know, then you're like... It's just like what Cole said. You know? If you're close minded, you'll never even have that opportunity ever. You know? But if you're willing to lose a $100 and go to zero, and you're just like, you know, it's just a $100. But then if it happens to work in your favor, then, you know, you get paid big time. But right now, I'm with Landy. I'm still reading and recut... I mean, there's just so much hitting the fan all at once. So, of course, I'm looking at the the big ones. Right? The AI 16 z's, the AI FPT's, the the... Because I because I... I'm even still reading the... Because I saw Satoshi AI or Cypher Genesis. Right? Basically, Butoshi, he came out with that swarm paper or open source. So even that. Right? And it... What was interesting was I saw that swarms come out, and then right after that was when I saw that swarms on Solana, right, pop out. And I was like, Like, is that a coincidence, or they they actually read, you know, read that up and then, you know, took the the swarm data and put it in and, you know, that's what popped out.
[1:32:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: I can give you alpha on that one. I'm I'm I've been tracking the dev
[1:32:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: on that
[1:32:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: one. So the swarms, agents that this kid has been building for swarms on Solana, he's been doing this for a long time. There is some controversy, but, basically, he takes the technical papers and actually implements them. And they've been building this, like, in a Discord and with friends, and then they just formed a company in March, and then they released a token. It it is a little bit of a coincidence. I think he wanted to release the token around when the narrative was picking up again. And it was a pretty successful launch, and it took them by surprise. They were supposed to... They did a test token that turned into the real token.
[1:33:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What are you talking about, Lam? I that thing did, like, 7,000 x returns.
[1:33:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know.
[1:33:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: I got into
[1:33:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: it. I was into it. Yeah. I was in that when it rang to, like, 50,000, but it took them by surprise.
[1:33:14] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You you could have put a dollar in that, and you just...
[1:33:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: It went to... I'm sorry. It went to 50,000,000 or something.
[1:33:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: And You guys done counting your money? You done counting all your Bitcoins and all your No. Your profits?
[1:33:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's falling out of my... I got swarms falling out of my pockets here. So... Yeah. But that that one's an interesting one because it's all surrounding this narrative, and you can you can do a bunch of different stuff with those forms, and the integrations that they have are pretty neat. And it's very much like what we're seeing happen all over the space. So
[1:33:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So so my thesis, Dave, essentially, my thesis is... What I think is gonna happen is there's gonna be an agent on every chain. Every every chain will have its own, like, main... You know, like, for example, like, Cypher Genesis is, like, the main on Bitcoin, right, will be the main agent. And then, like, Junie will be the main agent on on on that... You know I mean? So, like, every chain will have, like, their main person, and then the swarms will come in, and then they'll just start communicating to each other.
[1:34:13] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: I... Yeah.
[1:34:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: But that's
[1:34:14] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: the thing.
[1:34:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? Like, agents are meant to be... Like, when you talk about agentic AI, it's essentially swarms by nature. It's not just a chatbot. Right? So one agent can literally be directing 10 other agents to do 10 different things or executing 10 different trading strategies or NFT buying strategies or minting strategies. Right? Like, this is what is going to be capable now, and we're just now scratching the surface for, like, essentially, like, where, like, where we're going to go. And I highly encourage people. Like, this... Like, the the biggest thing... Benefit here that I think is... That people are missing is the... If you're a shitty trader, and I promise you, there's a lot of you that are, myself included sometimes. Right? It is what it is. This takes the emotion out of trading. It will never ask you when to take... If you predefine your fucking parameters, it will buy and settle according to that. Not all... What... What's the sentiment in the room? Let me see. Oh, I phone mode. I bought the Reddit. I sold the green, and I do it over and over and over again. I think that is what people are genuinely like like... That is going so understated out here in terms of what you're gonna be able to do. Yeah. It's gonna be cool, obviously, to have a manager wallets and and everything else. But the fact that, like, you're going to genuinely be able to take the emotion out of trading, I promise you the majority of crypto people, like like, unless you're a long term investor, you're trading on a daily basis and you're consistently losing money. Period. Stop doing that. These agents can help you obviously do that. But own in pizza pets. I know it's fine after. Maybe pizza pets tomorrow. But... Yeah. I mean We do pizza pets tomorrow. But, yeah, if I just wanna put you on something.
[1:35:54] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: Just one more second. Are you in a subway? Because you kinda rugged a little bit. But
[1:35:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. I'm on... Yeah. Go ahead. No. No. No. I'm on my headphones.
[1:36:04] DarkViRuS @MrDrive2Earn: Well, it's a little choppy. I thought maybe you're in the subway or something. No. I'm just saying, so I've been dabbling with an AI agent I'm creating for months, and it's it's crazy how much we can... You can actually just make a replica of yourself and and have it do everything for you. All your trading, all your... I mean, this is like Terminator stuff right here, guys. You have no idea. I pay, like, you know, the the $2.50 for the jet... The chat GPT a month, and it's it's way worth its weight in gold, I should say. No. No. It's gonna change. So... I mean, just look into your own personal AI agent. It can do everything for you. I mean, literally, to, like, what time do I take my pill? Should I trade Solana for this price? What's the next 1,000 x? Go check into it, guys. I'm telling you.
[1:37:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. 100%, bro. And, guys, I really did wanna get into the pizza pet conversation, but I don't got time. I gotta get the fuck out of I'm flying back to New York. So, ultimately, yeah, thanks for coming to ATC, everybody. Cool. Anything that you wanna cap off with? You got any streams coming up? Live streams, YouTube, anything going on?
[1:37:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm actually on a live stream right now. I I normally... 6PM, I need to go. So I'm I'm I'm all right now. I'm on YouTube right now. I'm on 03:00 right now. Thank you guys for coming up, bro. I don't think we're hosting a space tomorrow. Right? I don't think...
[1:37:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are we taking
[1:37:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: a break? We're back.
[1:37:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's tomorrow?
[1:37:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: What's tomorrow? Tomorrow is Tuesday.
[1:37:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Christmas Eve. Eve. Oh, Christmas Eve. Let me tell you something. Here's what here's what I realized is we don't have to host an ATC, but what I realized is degenerates are such out... We're such outcast amongst our families and wanna have zero conversations about what the fuck we do, like, in this space. But I'm I'm It's
[1:37:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: pure, Danny. I'm I'm hosting. I'm gonna be live on on on YouTube every day. Every day.
[1:38:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I'm live. I'm down, bro. Let's go. Let's do it. Alright, kid.
[1:38:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: What? Okay. I'll lean. I'll lean.
[1:38:08] ArtieFishal.eth @Artie_Fishal: I'll I'll
[1:38:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: lean. For those that obviously have family, go spend time with your family, do whatever. For the rest of you degenerates, you will have a space to come here. Hang out with me. Let's go.
[1:38:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: Alright. No worries. If hold if you hold it tomorrow, I'll show up, bro.
[1:38:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, baby. Let's go. Appreciate you guys. Landy, thank you. Gamer, Vincent, Shmoney, Samar, Dark Virus, I appreciate you guys. For everybody that came through, yo, shout out doctor Strange, Presley, I see you. Rambler, Nora, see you. Artie, thanks for coming through, bro. Mickey, Hanano, what's good, dev? Trippin' Monkey. Trippin' Monkey, I gotta get you that stuff. Yo. We're gonna be on the organized media, guys. Trippin' Monkey's gonna hook us the fuck up. I gotta... I just gotta get him over some info. Shout out Zero. I see you here too. Yeah. Riot Peaches, I see you, bro. Guys, yourselves a good night. I'm headed back, and I will see y'all tomorrow. Have a great holiday. Peace.
[1:38:53] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Thanks, Dave. Thank you.