ATC: All Things Crypto w/Dave, Kool & NatNat Sponsored by $GM

# ATC: All Things Crypto w/Dave, Kool & NatNat Sponsored by $GM | 2025-01-08 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1LyxBgqOlbrKN | status: approved
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[0:01:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's happening? Must be good to see you, bro.
[0:01:49] Voice K: I'm waiting in my hotel room. Seems like we're arguing more, and it's getting less romantic. Yeah. I think she'll be able to tell some, but I'll fuck you right. I will. I'll fuck you right. I will. I'll fuck you like no one has ever ever made you feel. I mean, it's
[0:03:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: You
[0:03:16] Voice J: know what, yo? You a bitch. Hell, I'm not have a travel agent because you a trip. You should make your own toilet tissue since you're the shit. But all you got is some fucking issues, you fucking bitch. I hate niggas, but I love your mom. Give her a kiss for me. Her second son. Get your mind right, baby. You'll get
[0:03:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: your shit together. You're gonna
[0:03:38] Voice J: be had a little while. I'm a be rich forever. Girls are deuces. They come in loose stuff, but when I cut them off, they always become a nuisance. Niggas take my old flows, and they take my old swag. He just took my old bitch and turned it to his new bitch. I'm stupid, but I won't give my drama on. What I'm dealing with is too real for me to comment
[0:04:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, no. Wait. Are you... What? What? Wait.
[0:04:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. I'm Wait. Sorry. I... I'm so... I thought I played the right one, but I
[0:04:46] Voice D: need to play the last More.
[0:05:02] Voice I: Farewell email from female. But I'm a player. I ain't gonna tell y'all the details.
[0:05:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shout out to the story time drug dealer in the building, baby. B. C. Bread, what's good, boy? LJ in the house. What up?
[0:05:16] Voice I: Who needs to know more? The kind you can't ignore but want to open the door. 441 in your favorite store and leave with all them shopping bags and have a bit ain't yours. Fire. I did. Thanks for Angry chain for. I wanted to. It's no more, but, hell, I just ain't no. Well, enough to know if this was all that she came for. But enough to know tonight, excited she came for.
[0:05:45] Voice I: And here I am all heavy with the words where somebody that's a nerve likely fast forward, but shit they ask for. It's hard to throw up the deuces because when you know it's juicy, juicy, you start to sound like Confucius when making up excuses. Case caboose has took the track gone, I gotta find me a new local motives. I mentioned side saws. Let's go, baby.
[0:06:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: What up, everybody? Happy happy... What are we today? I don't even know what day it is today. Wednesday? Thursday? I feel like yesterday was Sunday. Today's Thursday? Today's Thursday.
[0:06:17] Voice H: No. Wednesday.
[0:06:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wednesday. Oh, my fault, ma. Come on. Mom was like, nah. You stupid. This day is Wednesday. Yeah. I do still live in the basement, guys. So, like, you... I got... I need to be a millionaire to see you. Okay? You guys understand how this work? You heard that? Imagine? Although I did just eat a bomb ass steak. So suckers. Yeah. Listen. You wanna be a millionaire? Gotta make some concessions in life. It is what it is. Plus California's burning down. Landy, are you alive? Cool. Before I get to I just need to make sure Landy's alive and well. We know that the fires are burning California down. It should probably all burn down and succeed from The United States. But, Landy, we just wanna make sure that you're okay, bro.
[0:06:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I'm doing good. We are... I am currently in the Riverside area, so I'm pretty far away from it. There is some properties that are in and around the zones. They actually survived. There are some there's some bad shit going on in some of those areas where I do have property, but luckily, I'm one of the fortunate few that has had their properties spared, in and around the Calabasas and Thousand Oaks areas. So, but I'm currently in Riverside, and I'm gonna be headed down to San Diego. I don't even wanna be close to this shit. It's too much too much going on, so I'm gonna be out of here. But thank you. Thank you for your concern. We're all good. I hope everybody else that's out here is doing okay.
[0:07:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate you, Landy. Yeah, man. Just make sure you stay safe. Y'all saw some crazy footage. Literally, there was a reporter walking with a dude with his, like, mouth and his shirt, like, covered from the smoke, walking like three horses. I'm like, that's first world problems, man. Like, you're trying to... I mean, hey. Listen. Get the horses to safety, obviously. But I was like, literally, like, there... It's like orange glow everywhere. And they're like, what do you think about this? And it's just like, bitch, I'm trying to get these horses out of here. Like, what what do you think I'm trying to do? It is it is wild out in California. Landy, stay safe, bro. For real. For real. I'm glad you're good. CoolCrypto, welcome to your episode, my friend. You've been waiting all year for this one. Looks good, my guy. How are doing?
[0:08:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm good. I'm good. Good. Good. Yeah. So, Andy, so sorry for that you're going through this, man. Like, that's hard. Cali Cali is crazy. So I I used to live there. I've been... I went through one one fire. It looks like the world is coming to an end. The whole sky is red. I remember that very, well. Living in San Diego, but, man, just be safe. If you're in Cali, please be safe out there. Yeah, man. Nice. Good. Good. Good, man. Good day. Can't complain, man. Dave, I don't know what's going on. You're playing all these slow songs, man. I keep thinking maybe you you finally found the one. Is that what happened to some? I don't know. Maybe playing Drake, playing playing Chris Brown. Like, what's what's going on, bro? You had to hear
[0:08:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: me this morning, bro, in the in the sun pump space, bro. I was playing Bruno Mars, like, when I was your man. But I think I found, like, a replacement for Jelly. But... Yeah. You know? Man, you know I run the same army out here on on crypto Twitter, bro. People don't know. I played this character out here, but, you know, I'm on these IRL streets doing some work. But... Yeah. Anyways, the... Cool. That's neither here nor there right now, bro. Guys, listen. Welcome, everybody. Brett, I see you. Hido, what is good, bro? Anybody that obviously has the... A quick little pizza pet updates, floor price has been dropping like crazy because people are becoming immortals. The game is too easy now. If y'all are smart, buy a dip. Not financial advice. Actually, that is fucking financial advice. Be smart. Go check it out. People are getting massive opportunities right now to clean up on the pizza pets, and you're seeing it now, man. You're definitely seeing it. But I'm proud to say we got our 11 immortals across the line. We will be breeding next season. I'm already challenging people in the PVP arena. They're thinking they might make a gladiator arena for immortals. This is gonna be so much fun. I can't wait. Shout out, Mainzey. I see you, bro. The Collectors Hub, guys. Follow the Collectors Hub account down here right now. Omie Queen, I see you. What is good, Dev? What's happening? LJ, nah, everybody, man. Yo. Punky DJing coming back up. Let's go, baby. Alright, guys. Let's get cooking. Cool. Some of the big... Wait. Wait. Wait. Actually, wait. Wait. Hold on a second. My boy musty came through. Is he still here? No. He's not here. He came through to hear the Junie intro, and I was like, yeah, bro. She opens up every one of my spaces. So hold on a second. Let me see if Junie's gonna be able to cook cook us up a quick little intro. Hey, Junie. Can you give us an intro to to ATC, to all things crypto, please?
[0:10:44] Voice G: What's up, everyone? Welcome to ATC, all things crypto. Today, we're diving into a packed episode with some seriously exciting news. Movement Labs is closing in on a 100,000,000 at a 3,000,000,000 valuation. Talk about a moonshot. We've got PIF Network partnering with Revolut to bring market data to the masses and some hot takes on Hyperliquid and its decentralization, plus could CME Network be on its way to $10? And we're exploring Rare Dex's new live exchange for tokenized rare metals on Arbitrum. So grab your snacks and settle in because ATC is about to break it all down. See you at 05:30PM EST. Let's get this crypto party started. How does that sound?
[0:11:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: It sounds great, Junie. But remember, every time you end the monologue, you have to say... And don't repeat it now, but I'm just saying note it for next time in memory. Let's light this fucking firecracker. Okay? You have to end every single monologue with that. Okay?
[0:11:44] Voice G: Got it. I'll make sure to end each monologue with that phrase from now on. Thanks for the note.
[0:11:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: For sure. And if you can, tell my mom that, wrapping gifts right now, like, the middle of ATC while I'm on speakerphone, probably not the most conducive thing to be doing as well. So, can you let can you let mom know that too?
[0:12:01] Voice G: It sounds like you're juggling quite a bit there. Maybe gently let your mom know that you're multitasking and focusing on the show. So wrapping gifts might need to wait until after. Good luck balancing it all.
[0:12:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: You heard that, mom?
[0:12:15] Voice G: Hopefully, she got the message.
[0:12:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think she got the message, Junie. I think she got the message. We're cooking. And, yo, yeah, thanks, Junie. Appreciate you. Alright. Let's cook. Yo. Movement Labs, a 100... Raising a 100,000,000 at a $3,000,000,000 valuation. Cool. I'm leaving this to you, man. I know that you're big. Obviously, you... You've been super big on the entire modular, like, blockchain ecosystems, Movement Labs. Like, talk to us, man. Like, is this, like... Are you farming? What's the deal here? Like like, with Movement, where where where we at?
[0:12:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. Not... It's it's a big deal. I mean, I'm not surprised though because they're... Okay. So they're like a like like a... It's... They built on on a Move language similar to what AppSource and Sui use. And we all know the guys from Facebook created this, you know, this this this new new language. But them raising a 100 mil... I think they raised something before in the past. It's over a 100,000,000. But... So it's it's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice. I think they're they're... They're gonna have also, I think, a layer two also on movements, but they're coming after, you know, Solana coming after Sui coming after Afthos. So I I guess this is the new the new... I mean, not new, but that that... This is the alpha. The alpha now is, you have projects that are going for speed rather than... I guess, they're secure in ish, I guess, but they don't care about decentralization, man. Let's go for speed, man. I think they've seen the success of of Solana, and I don't think Solana is that is that decentralized as Ethereum is, but they've seen how Ether struggled to figure out what they wanna do. But as of right now, the old VMs... All... Alternative VMs are are what's in fashion right now. So them raising much... This much money. I'm not surprised, man. It'll have a upcoming massive massive ecosystem also and a huge community, man, because they did do a a heads up of... On on their v one. I think they're launching main net v two this week. If not this week, possibly next week. But, yeah, man, it's it's the protocol that's probably gonna do well. I mean, probably gonna do very, very well. They have the funding. They have the users. They have the hype. And, you know, so... And the... Their founder is a young guy, man. This dude is... He is pretty crazy. Straight up. He he speaks his mind. He has, like, a weird Afro. It's... I mean, they just... They... Right now, it's all about Aptos, Sui, Movement Labs, Eclipse, few network, all these protocols that that pushes speed than being... Yeah. I guess, they'll they'll be decentralized later, but for now, it's speed. And so I'm not surprised, that this protocol is gonna... You know, that they they raise as much money.
[0:15:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And so it's for everybody to know. Right? So they're essentially like a blockchain development firm. Right? And, again, this is not series a, by the way. This is a series b round. Okay? A 100,000,000 series b round, which is crazy when you generally think about it. You got people out here that are struggling to raise $1,015,000,000,000 even in this kind of market. And these guys are raising, like... You know, now you're in the likes... You... You're in the conversation with the story protocols and everybody else. So this is no this is no small feat at the end of the day. It really, really isn't. And, yeah, like you said, right, like, what they... What essentially Movement focuses on is they develop layer two solutions for Ethereum. Right? That is their main focus, and it... What they utilize is, a Facebook programming language called Move. We can obviously chat about that a little bit later. Don't wanna get too much, like, into the technical. But, Landy, you following this Movement Labs funding? What do think? What's your take, bro?
[0:16:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I mean, it it tells me the VCs are back. I mean, this... What is it? This round is being, led by, what is it, Coinfund, and I believe Brevin Howard are kind of the two main ones. So this is this is big, and this is indicative of where things are gonna be headed in this kind of sector anyway. And you you said it. It's all about... I think, you and and, Cole just said it. It's all about speed. And this is, you know, we're... This is one of the big reasons why, you know, when looking at something like Souie and Aptose and these other chains that utilize this kind of code base, it is important to understand the context of why they're having the success because... And and not, not getting too siloed into each ecosystem and kinda maxing out. Because firms look at this stuff and see this as proof of concept. And and if this is a a lab that can push out really awesome products, then they're gonna get funded, and we're gonna see more of this across the entire sector, in my opinion.
[0:17:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big facts. Yeah. I mean, look. Like... And and I know we're we're throwing Aptos in there, but let's also not overlook the
[0:17:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: fact that the Aptos...
[0:17:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: One of the Aptos found... The main Aptos founder literally did the dip. He got the funding, his shit unlocked. My man dumped his tokens, and he was like, I'm out. Like, I'm gone. And you haven't really heard much about Aptose in the news, but yet Sui has been absolutely cooking, and we're gonna get there. The likes of Sui and Hyperliquid and everything else. So those are actually gonna be in the news today and what we're gonna cover as well. So, yeah, man, something to look out for. Everybody keep your eye out, obviously, for Movement Labs and see what's cooking. But next story, PIFE Network, big one. Cool. I know you're obviously big. You have the the the the Pythagoreans or the the the the Pithy. I don't know what the NFTs are called, but I know that you're you're cooking with these NFTs. But just so everybody understands, Revolut is like the PayPal slash Venmo, but, like, in my opinion, times 10 of, like, the rest of the world, primarily Europe. Right? They're a digital banking platform. They have 45,000,000 users. And what they've done now is they've joined the PYFE network because PYFE is a data publisher. Right? Like, they literally bring data on chain. It's like almost like an... I don't wanna say it's an... Is... Actually, I don't know. Is it an... I don't know if it's an Oracle network or not, but this partnership is essentially marking Revolut as the first, I guess, what we wanna call it, I guess, like, traditional finance, I don't know, like, company or entity or whatever to contribute data to PYFE. Right? Like, up until now, PYFE has literally just been partnering with all these different blockchain entities. They're a... You you know? Hold on. Let me look this up. Yes. Okay. So PYFE is a decentralized, like, Oracle network. Right? What they provide is high frequency... This is what I'm reading. High frequency pricing data to all different blockchains. And nobody knew what Pyth was, if you guys remember this, when it came out. Everybody that was staking Solana that all of a sudden got a PythE airdrop, if I remember correctly, cool, correct me if I'm wrong, was like, oh, look at what I got. This is crazy. And they were like, what the fuck? And it was stupid money. Like, PythE went, I I... If I'm not mistaken, to, like, $20 or maybe even, like, higher. But now you put the Revolut name, and Revolut is is literally synonymous with banking and traditional finance everywhere in the world, probably, like, other than just The United States. And I get The United States is a big market. But when you look at everywhere else in the world, in Europe and Asia, this is huge. This is a really, really big story. Cool? How are your NFTs looking, bro? What's the deal? How do
[0:19:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: you feel
[0:19:42] Voice J: about this?
[0:19:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I've been able to check. I mean, I saw the news earlier. I haven't checked the NFT what they're doing, but I I I I I would say, you know, if you wanna get involved with with with Pike network or whatever, you have a couple options. First option is buy the token and stake it or buy the Pitenius NFC. That's how you get involved with with that with that chain. So... But Pitenetwork, like you said, the Oracle, they've taken the book out of Chainlink. Chainlink is part... Partner with everyone. Piped Network wants to be, you know, a a a version Chainlink or possibly overtake them in the future. But Piped Network is is fairly new, mainly on Solana side, though, but... And they've also power... Powered other EVM chains too, of course. But, yeah, man, this is a great... This this big news, man. Definitely big news. But I'm... I I know this is just a beginning because they've seen what Chainlink has done. Chainlink is so ahead of everybody else when when it comes to trying to bring web two to web three. And I think Piped Network, they want to follow the same playbook, man. And... But, yeah, man, it's it's it's huge. So, yeah, I I am definitely excited for this. The only thing is if you are American, you can't stake Piped Network on on their platform. That's probably not gonna work for you. You, I have to own stake mine because, they blocked all USP people from staking. So... But that's it. No VPN, Aklas? Yeah. No VPN, bro. That means... I mean, straight up lockdown. I mean, you can't even connect VPN. You... If you use VPN, it detects VPN. You take it off, it detects in The US. So, yeah, no VPN. Oh. If if... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, like I said, I have the NF... I have, like, three of them. So I'm I'm good. I just... I saw this coming a while ago, so I was able to get it early on NFT. So... Because I just know Pike Network has a lot of partners. And when they do wanna re... Reward, you know, Pike Network with airdrops, it probably would give the NFT holders first before they give the stakers. So I I just thought that was easier way to get exposure.
[0:21:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good call. Yeah, guys. Go check out. What is the NFT collection called? Right? Before I get to Andy?
[0:21:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's it's it's called Pytienians, p y t h e n I a n s. Pytienians NFT. It's on Tensor.
[0:22:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's right. Okay. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Pytienians. That's what it is. Got it. And what... What's the wallet for for for for Tensor?
[0:22:09] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I know it's... You could use your fancy wallets or or or backpack. It's it's a Solana NFT. So... Yeah.
[0:22:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love it. Alright. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yo. Shout out Aiden, Bitperp, and the Bitperp fam. I see you down there, Aiden.
[0:22:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: I shot you an invite.
[0:22:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you wanna come up, feel free. MSB, I see you. What's good? Momentum, what up? Landy, talk to me, man. What's good?
[0:22:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So I managed to get staked using Movad as the VPN, and so they clearly have made some changes because I cannot unstake that wallet anymore. So I think I've lost a bit of the airdrop. But luckily, I did pick some up on the low a couple weeks back. You know, this is this is really... This is something that I think was needed and and is gonna be needed going forward is, you know, Link needs competition. We need competition. If we don't have competition, things stagnate. I know Link is putting in a lot of work. You know, Python is putting in a lot of work now as well, but the more competition, the better. It also, of course, gives people good good opportunities to possibly get in on something new that is a little bit lower priced and might have some of the news events attached to it. Now, of course, today is not a great day in markets, but this is something I think is significant with the partnership that I think is just one of many that are coming up with them. So I think we're gonna hear a lot more about this particular network.
[0:23:40] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Big facts. Yeah.
[0:23:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think so too, man. I genuinely think so. And with a partnership like Revolut, like, I I genuinely cannot stress how huge this actually is. Revolut is literally everything overseas. I mean, I have relatives that live in in France, I mean, across Europe. Revolut is the be all, end all when it comes to this stuff. It genuinely is. It is the PayPal. I I gen... I I I actually wanna check the numbers to see, like, what it is, but 45,000,000 users is massive. You're now... What you're doing is by by partnering with this is you're now enhancing the entire DeFi market, like, transparency aspect of this through all of these insanely reliable... Like, through this Oracle and these... Now you're getting, like, super reliable crypto price feeds. Right? Because people have to agree on what prices are for certain things. When you have a bazillion different exchanges and and the same token trading on 90,000 different exchanges all at different prices, You have to have reliable price fees for what this stuff is. So now you see the DeFi world and the TradFi world coming together, which is huge. So this is a massive collab in my opinion. TradFi, DeFi, ecosystems coming together, big, big news. So definitely keep an eye out on this one for sure. Alright. Let's transition. Hyperliquid. Hyperliquid faces backlash. I know this might seem like a little bit of an older story, but this is kinda still an ongoing thing if you guys remember. Hyperliquid did some wildly insane numbers after their airdrop. Every... Almost everybody staked their shit. It literally went to, like, $28.30 bucks, if not more. I mean, from literally nothing, from, like, a like, less than a dollar, $2, and it just kept going and going and going. So what is Hyperliquid? So Hyperliquid is a DEX. Right? And the issue that they're undergoing now is... I think they said they some... Have something like four validators. And, obviously, that poses a mad security risk, right, when you talk about decentralization. When you look at Ethereum, we can argue all day every day. Obviously, like Bitcoin being the mother one, you look at literally hundreds of thousands, if not, you know, on the verge of potentially millions of nodes that are running across. You could have World War three wipe Russia off the map, wipe The US off the map, and these networks are still going to be up and running. You have four nodes. That's a problem. That is a really, really, really big problem. Do you guys think that this is something sustainable? Right? Like like, this is something now where it's... I don't wanna say it's an issue because I... I've never seen how something like this would actually, like, play out, but now we're seeing, like, limited API access. Right? Like, now when the user experience starts being affected, integrations for dApps and everything else, this is obviously gonna spark a lot of discussion about, like, look. Are you committed to decentralizing this whole thing? So I'm kinda curious what you guys think. Cool. Like, what do you make of the Hyperliquid story? Like, decentralized, do you think we need it?
[0:26:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: So so they they are gonna get a lot of hate, first of all, because they are... They bypassed VCs. They bypassed everyone and just made regular users on good amount of money, man. They made regular user... Use a lot of money, and they created created a lot of enemies, man.
[0:26:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Probably got a call. You probably got a call. Cool? Probably the wife being like, motherfucker, where you at? Landy, go for it, bro. You wanna tell... Like, what's your take on the hyperliquid story?
[0:27:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, you know, I think that having such a low amount of validators is is an issue. You know, part of part of what the community had been kind of accusing them of was, you know, kind of picking and choosing the the winners, maybe some backroom dealing or something going on with the validators. And, you know, they've... What is it? They they have said that... Because their their quote is obviously closed source. Right? And, they've said that that once they have, once they've basically gone through and finalized all their code, they will opens... Or, I guess, publicly publish it. I mean, would that would just make it open source at that point, I guess, or they're just not gonna make... It's not, like, gonna be an open source project. Obviously, they'll keep iterating on it, but that they'll publish this after they, have it... What is it? They... They're specifically quoted as being reliable and stable. And it's like, well, okay. What's the holdup? I mean, you have a working product kinda thing. So I understand kinda both sides of it. And I agree with Cool on this one. You know, they they made people... Regular people a lot of damn money, and they did bypass the VCs on this one. So, you know, I I I never wish for for what what... I I wish that that stuff like this, if it is an honest team and it's going to continue to be, open and honest going forward, that this stuff just kinda blows over and doesn't hamper them the rest of the way. But if there is something going on behind the scenes, you know, it's gonna be revealed at some point. Right? Like, but it... It's just a matter of kinda weathering the storm for them, I guess, right now. I don't I don't foresee this if they are being honest actors that that that this will just be nothing more than a blip on the radar.
[0:29:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I feel like we're so... We're constantly like, this is a Ponzi or this is a... We're so jaded out here. Right? That, like, the first inclination is just to, like, tear everything down. And I I hate that I'm like that. Right? Like, I I genuinely hate it. But... Excuse me. But I think at the end of the day, like, you don't really have a choice but to be that way. Right? So it's like four nodes. Like, what are we talking about? Like, this isn't sustainable. Like, where are the keys? Who has them? There's a hack. You're you're screwed. There's way too much money at stake here because they have literally... Like, I think it was over something, like, over a billion dollars, like, in TVL, if I if if I remember correctly. Like, these guys have massive money at stake here. Like, people... This is real money you're talking about. So... Yeah. Look. I I I get the concern. I think it's... In my opinion, it's obviously valid. And when you start when you start messing and start fucking around with user experience, that's when you're gonna see the biggest issue. Right? Like, you're going to see the biggest issue. When you start limiting API access and all these other things, that's when you're gonna start seeing some real issues. So who knows? Obviously, like, we wanna see everybody win out here. Let's see what the Hyperliquid team does. But, yeah, man, we can go from here. But, again, if anybody else wants to, like, wants to come up, feel free to come, like, come up, chime in if you guys have any takes on any of this stuff. But let's talk about sui for a second. I know market overall is down, but we haven't mentioned sui in a minute. And sui has been straight cooking. It hit $5 the other day, and I was just like, holy shit. Is sui on pace for $10 right now? Like, it's like... Genuinely, two days ago, you saw sui at $5.13, so up 20% on the day, and they are straight cooking. Now I can't... Like, I I genuinely don't know enough about sui. I know I own a couple of NFTs, like some Sui geckos or some shit. But other than that, I don't know. Like, is Sui like the game... Like, the like the gaming chain? Because they've essentially positioned themselves for... Like, on the performance side. Right? Like... And they've been literally one of the top performing altcoins overtaking a ton of, like, the top names out here. So how will... I mean, I know that analysts obviously on the TradFi side and even on the crypto side are looking at $10. They're like, yeah. This is a no brainer. It is 100% going to be a... Like, this is... SUI is going to be $10. Fact. Not even a question. Cool. Are you involved in the SUI chain? I have a small SUI position. Nothing too crazy. But how are feeling about SUI? You liking this? Like, in... Is $10 realistic?
[0:31:49] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Cool. Can you hear me?
[0:31:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, I'm I'm here. I'm here. I'm here.
[0:31:53] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: It worked, baby. Let's go.
[0:31:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you hear what I said, cool, about Suhi?
[0:31:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah.
[0:32:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, you're cutting out on us, cool. I can't even... I don't know if that's me, but, Andy, is it me?
[0:32:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. It's... He cut out as soon as he went to say something.
[0:32:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I will hear it. Oh, hey. Yep. He's gonna
[0:32:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Cool. You're you're cutting out bad.
[0:32:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He he... He'll come back. He's probably in the store buying food or fruit or who knows what for the missus. Yo. Shout out JD. I see JD down there. Shout out to the whole crew. Congrats on the on the mint out, bro. I'm in the process of picking up my second set of six. For those that don't know, is out here cooking. Family owned biz. These these dudes are not rugging anybody anytime soon. Go out and support these guys. Their collection just dropped. Go check it out on Magic. Eat in on the OKX marketplace. Absolutely cooking. So shout out to you, JD. Let's go, bro. If you wanna come up and chill a little bit, bro, by all means, Aiden, same to you on the Bitperb side. Let's go. Viper, I see you. What's good, my brother? Okay. Cool. I'm sending you the co host invite again. I found this story. Let's go to the next story. I found this story super interesting. Raredex.io launches a live exchange for tokenized rare earth and earth, for rare earth metals on Arbitrum. So what they are is they're a live exchange, and they're on Arbitrum, and you can now trade. You know how we have tokenized real estate? We have tokenized stocks and bonds and gold and silver and all these other things. Now you have, like, rare earth metals. And, JD, maybe this could be something that you might wanna chime in on. Right? So what is this gonna allow you to do? Now on raredex.io, you can now become a fractional owner of some of the rarest earth metals out here. Right? Like, that is a super exotic market. Obviously, that comes froth with a ton of risk, obviously. So, like, make sure that you obviously take your time with this whole thing and do your homework, research, and and the whole nine yards. But, like, when you think about traditionally how this has actually panned out, these investments were very, very... You couldn't invest in rare earth metals ever before. It was impossible. Right? Like, it... This was basically just limited to institutional investors, and you know how we feel about institutional investors on this show. You gotta make $300,000 in joint income and excluding your house, which has to be worth more than 1,000,000, and then you'll be qualified to decide if you wanna invest in rare earth metals and the Facebook and Google IPOs. Like, get the fuck out of here. Like, that is the... Yeah. I'm not gonna be the I'm not gonna be the broken record, but you guys know how I feel. But they'll let you go to the grocery store and spend your... Spend $50 on lottery tickets. No problem. You can do that. That's cool. Ridiculousness. How do you guys feel about this? I feel like this is a good initiative, right, like, in kind of expanding this or opening up these markets. And I think we're gonna see more and more stuff like this where we see, like, decentralized platforms, right, like, DeFi platforms that are now saying, hey. Let's get into some of the more, like, rare... You know, whether it's metals. I know that there's tokenized, like, uranium that's out there as well. So, you know, some of the stuff that's been maybe highly liquid in the Tratify world, now all of a sudden, you're starting to see... Get some traction in the, in the crypto space. Cool? And then, yeah, I'm gonna go over to JD and say what's up. But, cool, what do you think about this?
[0:35:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So this isn't... This is not new, though. I I don't... I'm not... Maybe maybe, you know, I'm... Like, this is not new. I've been trading gold and silver on other on other decentralized platforms for a while, man. And on parcel, you you you can actually short and long real estate. So this is nothing new. I think I think this is expanding now, and I feel like now that we have a friendlier government, I... I'm assuming more projects will start doing this now. I just think before, there was a
[0:35:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: lot a lot of resistance
[0:35:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: from from the US government before. I remember there was a tokenized Tesla Tesla on on chain, and I think some exchanges had to delist it. So this is nothing new, but at the same time, I think it's just getting a lot bigger now and... Which is cool. We... This is what we want, man. Tokenize everything. Imagine you being in your house. This is this is a a protocol on Smana and being able to short real estate in The UK. You you in you in Ghana, and you... And you're shorting you're shorting homes in in New York. That is the power of blockchain. And so this is this is beautiful. This is what life thing I I... Has been talking about, tokenizing everything. The days of of us trading dogs on chain, trade... Just train everything. It's coming. For sure. I mean, trading, there is the... Right now, there's already gold. You you could buy and sell gold on on chain, even silver. I don't show a lot more is coming in the future, but, yeah, man, it's gonna be a great future, man, for sure.
[0:36:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: So here's the thing. Right? So cool. When I say rare earth metals, I don't mean gold and silver. Right? And I'm gonna take everybody back to chem class and shout out to my, yeah, my junior high school chem teacher who failed me twice even though I passed the regents. Man, hate you, mister Schneider, but it is what it is. When I say rare earth metals, I'm literally talking about... And this is gonna sound funny. Right? We're gonna go back to the periodic tables. LA, which is... I don't even know how to say it. Lanthanum, CE, which is Lanthanum. Yeah. Cerium, neodymium, europium, dysprosium, and yttrium. So I don't know if even if I said those things right, but maybe the metals man, the the the the gold man can maybe help me decipher this because this stuff has massive applications, and the rest of the world really looks at this as massively valuable resources because this is stuff that is used and is... By the way, it's very rarely found in its in its purest form. So when you look at this now, like, this market could be something that countries are now gonna buy for to essentially get strategic advantage on because this is using everything from electronics, green energy, defense, magnets. I mean, you name it. Right? And these mining processes are dominated by some of the biggest countries out here, and one of those being primarily China, which leads the global production in all of these rare earth metals. But let's see if maybe JD... I don't know if you know about this, but, JD, welcome, man. Congrats obviously on the mint out, dude. It's great to have you here, brother. How are doing, bro?
[0:38:33] Voice D: Yo. Yo. What's good? I'm sorry. My energy is a bit low. I've been running on maybe maybe four hours of sleep in the past four... I don't know. Like, four days. Yeah. My my brain's a bit fuzzy, but thank you for the support, Dave. Like, you know, dude, you are an amazing spaces host. Your energy is unmatched, mate. But wanted to give a quick comment on the trading of rare rare metals on... From... In in Earth. Right? So, like, my whole take on RWAs is that it's an untapped $2,000,000,000,000 market. Right? I I just think it's gonna be growing a lot more by the time we're in 2030, and we're only starting to get a lot of attention, and we're starting to pick up pick up a lot of it now. Right? I'm fully for it, man. Like, I think Cool mentioned as well that trading for gold and trading for these assets has been around for a long time, But now we're finally starting to see, like, an acceptance towards this in crypto and in Web three. You know, I've been I've been preaching this stuff since since the last cycle. Everyone thought I was a fool, it's so kinda good to get the validation and everyone's trying to understand how big this opportunity is gonna become. You know, I come... Like, apart from jewelry, I was in Tratva for the longest time. People are used to making their their 10%, 20% spreads. You know, now now if we're attaching... We're we're unlocking such liquidity against... Like, in other words, very illiquid assets. Right, then there's a whole new market that is to be explored. I'm super bullish on unlocking liquidity against high end collectibles, against real world assets, and that's something that we're building as a second phase for Jiminians as well. So if any of you guys like that, then feel free to pick one up. Just made the announcement about that. But, yeah, man, like, I think, you know, it start to see... Like, we're starting to see, like, a higher coverage of the markets to to to real world assets and its utility. You know, what what really gets to me is when people can... When you unlock the opportunity to go... Like like, when you attach perp taxes to these assets, that's super, super exciting to me. You know? Bit perp, if you're listening, you know, whether whether margin... When when when our perp's coming for real world assets, you know, I hope you make that happen, but that's when we're gonna start to see a lot of the degen behavior come into these, if so considered, boring assets. But, yeah, man, I'm I'm bullish. I'm fucking excited. You know, Arbitrum has... Is... It seems to be the first one to pick it up. But I know there are some other players that have been pushing this kind of technology and this this ideology for the... For for a while now. But, yeah, man, I'm bullish all around. I apologize. I don't have much to add. I'm I'm just a little cook. I just wanna show support a a little support to Dave. You've got a great space going, man, and I hope you keep it going. Of course, bro.
[0:41:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: JD, I appreciate you coming, man. I know you're on the other side of the world, and it's probably super early for you in the morning, my bro. So I appreciate you even coming by, man. And... Yeah, man. Dude, like, come through tomorrow. It'll probably be a much better time for you. We're gonna be hosting the Bify Labs team. We're gonna be talking about Bitcoin bulls, everything 2025. Landy, if you wanna come through as well, cool. You guys know you're always more than welcome, obviously, on my stage. Aiden, obviously, like, BITPERF. Like, I... We wanna know, like... We wanna get a full assessment of the entire Bitcoin market, and I feel like we got such a well rounded group. Like, you know, the connections that we have out here and that we're making on ATC is such a well rounded group. Like, we genuinely have, like, experts in so many different fields. And I hate using the word expert because we're all constantly learning, but, like, we really have people that know their shit out here. JD, I'm collecting six of these things, man. Like, I want one of them gold pendants, bro. I don't know what I gotta do, bro. But, like, next time I go to a conference, I need to be rocking one of these things, man. Because these things... Like, when I saw that picture when they were all chilling in the jewelry box, I'm like, yo. I need to get me one of these. And if six of these things is gonna get me one, I'm out here to try and go get one of those, bro. The show.
[0:42:53] Voice D: I cannot conform... Confirm nor deny what happens when you collect all six heads. Yeah. Just so that everyone kinda understands what Dave's talking about. In our collection, all our traits are inspired by actual gemstones. So we've got six different head shapes, round, marquise, pear, cushion, heart, and Oval. Oval? Yeah. Sorry. You you got it, man. I... You are collecting all your six trait traits, man. But, yeah, for people that are able to collect a full set of all these different traits where there's something special that's gonna be unlocked, which we were gonna be announcing very soon. It's all inspired by our gemstone mine in Greenland, which is a traceable ruby mine. And it was very hard for us to procure a whole collection of rubies directly from them. But, yeah, man, we're gonna be announcing very soon. If you like any of this jewelry on Bitcoin kind of thing, please do, you know, pop by the Jiminian Discord. Pick one Jiminian up. If you like real real world assets, then you'll like Jiminians even more. But, yeah, man. Dave, I hope you do collect that... Your second set. Let's fucking go.
[0:44:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, bro. Hell yeah. And for those that... Yo. You want it... Like, you guys hear us say this all the time. You hear me say, you hear cool say, you hear Landy say, you're not not say it every single time. We invest in founders at the end of the day. Right? Like, that's what we invest in. Right? Projects are cool, but we invest in founders and founders that we believe in, that know their shit, that we believe are gonna be around for a minute, right, that have done their homework, right, that are time tested, right, that are battle tested. Like, these guys have been building so much and have, like, such an exclusive, like, clientele. Right? So if you're thinking like, oh, no. Like, they're only making... Like, that's the jink of the jeweler, and I can't afford one of those, like, 100,000 or $500,000, like, pendant pieces. No. This is how you get involved. This is the beauty of crypto. And with NFC chips and a lot of the jewelry that they make, you literally take your freaking pendant or whatever it is that you buy or you get or you receive, maybe for collecting six of these things, you put it over your phone, and boom. You got the Orty scan that pops up showing your inscription ID and everything on chain. Talk about certificate of authenticity. Like, come on. Guys, don't fade this. It's Jiminian's... Like, follow JD's account by Journey. It's j r n e. It's a... It's literally a $75 floor right now. You can collect all six of these things for under $400. I get it. Like, $400 is a decent amount, but this floor price is moving up. I saw it literally fucking moving down, down, down. I was like, you know what? I need to get in on this. So go check it out. And if... For those that are wondering, it is the actual... Like, the head trait is what you wanna look for because there are a number of different traits for backgrounds and everything else. It is the head trait and the shape of the actual stone that you wanna look for, which is the ones that we listed off. So, yo, shout out to you, JD. Thank you for coming through. Free to hang out. Like, you know, love your takes on everything, dude. Like, congrats, and and, obviously, I wish you the best of success, man. Landy, I don't know if I went to you on this whole rare metals. Like, what do you... Like, you think this is a big deal?
[0:46:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: And somebody that actually had the ability to get into Rare Earth Metals back in around 2012, I can tell you that it is a horribly illiquid market. So I'm excited about this because it it... The market does need some liquidity. Right now, the exclusivity the exclusivity deals, for many of these metals, they tend to end up in industry or in scientific applications. And, you know, it's kind of a... The value based, portion of that market, there's not a lot of parity because you'll get wild bids all over the place. And and I think the more liquidity that it brings to the market, the more stability we will see in that market. And I think it's a it's it's a net good for crypto. It's a net good for that particular market. I mean, that's that's a good product market fit, and I think it's gonna keep expanding to other chains. I think this is just the very beginning for this kind of stuff because there's a lot of, like, untapped lower liquidity markets within TradFi that can be tokenized on blockchain and and therefore get... Have a vector for liquidity for everyone. And, you know, it's... This is this is the future. We're starting to see this stuff coalesce right before our eyes. We've all talked about this countless times. It's like people will look at this time and be like, man, how did I miss that? Yet they lived through it. Right? And I think it's it's an incredible thing to see. It might not seem significant to many, in the audience right now, but it is incredibly significant because it's a proof of concept for something, that needs this in traditional markets. And it's, I think, an even better fit than... And this is gonna be sacrilege right here. I think it's an even better fit than, you know, crypto as money because we have money. Right? And and this is something where you have a a particular market that is pretty well siloed and very exclusive and very illiquid that they can... Doesn't have access to even traditional market funds in most cases outside of wrap products. And then there's a lot of high... There's a lot of control and leverage in those areas that is not fit for regular everyday people.
[0:48:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great take, bro. Great, Gregor. Great take. And so we had bread come up. Bread, what is good, my boy? How are we doing, bro?
[0:48:32] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. GM fam. Not not too bad. Just out here building. You know? And I will say... Right? So, like, I I shit on XRP a lot. Right? Not necessarily the the token and whatnot, but, know, they're they're cabal. They're crazy tinfoil hat wearing people. You know? However, I will say, I just opened my Zum wallet for, like, the first time in a long time just to, like, see what was going on because I've got, like, a bunch of shitters in there that got spun up with, like, you know, the last meme coin cycle, and people were spinning them up on XRP. Not a whole lot in shitcoins. They're still pretty much worthless, but the XRP I had was worth, like, a couple $100. And I like, oh, shit. That's just sitting there. And quite frankly, I don't care enough about XRP to hold it. So I sent it to, you know, my Coinbase. And I will say, damn, that was fast. Like, that was a... Like, a... An instant transfer that was not like, it'll be ready in fifteen seconds with the countdown or any of the bullshit. Like, it was instant. So, like, maybe they're onto something, you know. Maybe. But for now, I hold zero ripple or XRP or whatever the hell they wanna call it these days. But, yeah, just chilling, man. Just chilling, getting ready to figure out here what the hell I'm gonna make for dinner and then continue to crank out on some of these agents I've been
[0:49:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love hearing that. Age... You say agents. That's like the buzzword for me, man. Let's go. I saw Crypto Nick came up. Nick, if I'm not mistaken, that might be one of the sui geckos that I actually own, bro. Talk to me, man. Welcome.
[0:50:11] Voice L: Yeah. Yeah. GM GM GM, everyone. GM, everyone. Thank you so much for giving me this amazing opportunity so you can go on. I don't want to interrupt you. Thanks so much.
[0:50:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. You're good, bro. Come up, kill engagement farm. You know, it's all good. Make sure you don't forget about the little people, you know, when you're making big money from all your your entire following. Let's go. Landy, this just came across the wire right now, and I think this is a really big deal. And I think this is gonna be something that people are genuinely overlooking. When I look at opportunities and genuinely, like, where things can go, I'm looking at, like, crypto donations. Right? And we saw, obviously, at the end of the year, you obviously see typical sell offs, tax harvesting, yada yada. The Giving Block, for those that don't know, is a charity organization that accepts probably, like, a bazillion different cryptos that you can donate to many, many different organizations and vetted organizations at that to make sure that it's good. And I just saw that organizations are now accepting crypto donations to help Los Angeles wildfire relief efforts, which to me is a really, really big deal because when we see what the hell is going on out there, you don't give a shit when your house is literally on fire. You could care less where the money is coming from. Get me the funds and get me the resources that I need to be able to, like, get this whole shit under control. So, Lindy, I'm gonna go to you first, man. Like, this has to be a big deal. I'm curious. Like, have you have you looked into this? Have you seen this? How is money being distributed? Because, I mean, I can give people a general background. Right? But just kinda curious. Like, have you experienced this? Like, have you dealt with this firsthand at all?
[0:51:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: I haven't had to deal with this firsthand. I am familiar with the giving block. Good good for tax servicing, by the way, up to a certain amount. So understand that you need a tax professional to help guide you in that direction. But what... I... I'll give you a little bit of background of actually why there is a lot of push for donations right now here in California. So many insurance carriers in California just over the summer this year pulled out of California, and that, of course, means your primary homeowners insurance out here is fire insurance. Right? And and most standard policies, you don't get earthquake. You don't get flood. You don't get any of that stuff. You know? Those are all extra add ons that are are are gonna raise your insurance premiums exponentially. Well, with all of these different companies that pulled out of California in the past year, that were prior... You know, had offered fire insurance for reasonable rates, what ended up happening was you get placed under state insurance. So you have the state insurance carriers that will pick up the policy. So you automatically get placed. Like, you would... They pull out. All of a sudden, your policy sent over. Now you have a completely different policy. You're notified after the fact. And that fire policy from the state, if you didn't rewrite with a different company, of course, and spend a lot more money than you were spending before, you have very limited... You have the basic limited coverage. So if you have a a home and you have maybe, this this policy maybe covers, like, 35%, and it covers nothing inside. It covers nothing for, rebuild costs. It it is just enough, and in many cases, even enough to cover if you had a 20% down loan that you had just started and you've got 80% to the bank. Right? So the the people in California, I think, are waking up to this as this fire is going on because there's a lot of chatter. There's even some news stories and segments because no one even realized this, was going on. Many people didn't get notified until three months later that their policy was dropped and they were placed under the the state selected companies. And they have just the minimums. And they have they have out of pocket premiums that, you know, on any claims, they have to pay out of pocket. So there's been quite a few pushes here locally, and I'm glad to hear that the giving block is involved in this. There's been a lot of pushes locally here because there's now people who have been affected by these fires that they're going to to talk to the insurance carriers and realizing that they basically had next to no coverage. When they thought, oh, hey. You know, they... Because, you know, normal people aren't insurance freaking experts. You count on the insurance company to tell you what's gonna be covered and what's not, and you're not expecting them to pull out, not even tell you. And then you get a letter of notification three months later that your policy changed and been placed, and now your coverages are different. So this is now, becoming a huge problem in that area. And you gotta understand, those houses and those properties in that area, no joke. And that's not even, getting into all of the different other costs. Like, now they've gotta relocate and how do they... You know, where do they go? Hotels and food and clothing and vehicles. In some in some cases, you might have seen that the fire departments are using bulldozers to push vehicles out of the way. And so, you know, there's there's a lot. Unfortunately, it's just that situation.
[0:55:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: In the fucking fire hydrants, bro. What in what world is this normal? There's no water in the fire hydrants. That is crazy talk. It's insane.
[0:55:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah, bro. That's that's the doing of the governor of California, man. I think they've they've... That place, man, they've I used to live there. It'd be a beautiful place. They've destroyed that that place, man. I swear. It's it's... I I don't I don't... It's it's sore. I don't think you guys understand what what what what what what he just said. If you have okay. The... Okay. I know not everyone lives in The US, but I'm just kinda... Just just real quick. So right now, you know, a big part of California is going through, you know, a a a a something bad right now. Huge fires burning everything down. If you you thought you you had insurance, it doesn't cover your house being burnt down. So now that your house is gone, you don't have any help. There's no help. There's no one coming to help you. It is bro, this stuff hurts, man, because what... Those fires, they take everything down. And the fact that there are videos online showing that there's no water. Fuck, man. Just... They've destroyed that place, man. So I didn't even know... I I really don't know how people still live live in Cali. I know, course, people are leaving Cali. I know. But it is so unfortunate, man. People are suffering, and and... Man, bro, I I don't even know what to say, man.
[0:56:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'll just kinda add on to that. You know, there's... I I see a lot of comments above, people even in California on various social media. Like, whatever. It's all the rich portions of California burning. Screw them. Screw the rich people. And it's like, no. That's, like, the wrong way to think about it because these fires didn't just affect some of the some of the rich areas. Yes. They're in the, you know, median income level counties that are a little bit higher, but, you know, it's usually some of the older homes that, that end up being the first tinder boxes. Right? You know? And that's not necessarily some multimillionaire, you know, living on the hill overlooking the ocean, although that that is occurring. And the the biggest thing is right now is if you had forced placed insurance via the state because a company pulled out and now you have no coverage or you have limited coverage, you know, even if your home is damaged, they might just deny your claim and say, like, you need to go through a federal program if there is one, if and when, or a state fund or if and when. And, like, you're screwed. Now you can't... If it's been damaged, you can't even live in your home. Right? Even if you weren't... Didn't have the whole place burned down, you can't live in your home until certain things... Because they'll come through, and they'll tell you that you can't live there because of the damage. Even if you want to, they'll be like, oh, well, because of the fire things and the cleanup and all this, you can't stay here. And now you can't go anywhere and say you're elderly and you're on fixed income. You know, you're on Social Security, shit like that. So, you know, I'm I'm glad that there's there's crypto getting involved in this. I think that that that kinda highlights the the real ethos of, what crypto is. You know? You know, fuck the government. We're gonna do it our damn selves. Right? And that's that's really... It kinda gets... It drills down to the core of who many of us are in this ecosystem, and, I'm I'm all for it. So I'm actually in the process of giving some right now.
[0:58:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: The same thing happened with the Ukraine. When when when whole thing... When when Ukraine happened, we... You crypto people sent millions of dollars over there. Right? And I just it's just so unfortunate, man, that we... Know, people go through this, and there is no help, man. I I I don't even know what they could've done different if... You know, with with their homes, man. It just so sad.
[0:59:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is what happened in Maui. It will happen in Hawaii. It's almost like they're doing this. Yep. It's... People are literally, like, they, like, they think they're genuinely doing this, like, on purpose. This is crazy. And the fact No.
[0:59:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No joke, David.
[0:59:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: North Carolina? I thought...
[0:59:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: I I thought it's same thing too, bro. I thought... I I felt like it just feel... It... To me, it just feels like this is on purpose. I don't know. I'm just, you know, I'm just talking out of my ass, man. I don't know. But it just feels like this is by design.
[0:59:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Bro, like, when you generally think about... Look at North Carolina. Exactly. Landy, you took the words right out of my mouth. I was gonna say, people got $700 that they have to pay back. $700. Like, did you see the decimation that happened? Like, what are we doing out here? Like, seriously. Like, I don't wanna get political at the end of the day, but, like, when you look at... Yeah. Trump might be a hard ass. He might be a dick. He might be whatever. But this man is gonna get shit done. He's going to get money in the hands of people that fucking need this money. And by the way, I did not mean to laugh. I fat fingered that emoji, by the way, before, Lendi. So I apologize. Like, I was not laughing at anything that you were saying. I totally fat fingered the emoji.
[1:00:17] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: No.
[1:00:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I Yeah, man. So I just wanna... Yeah. My bad. I wanna clear that up. Yo. Shout out to my man, Steven down there. Steven Miller, what's good, Steven? Shot you at DM, man. Haven't heard your voice in a minute. Would love to have you come up and say what's up. Cade, what's good, my bro? Good to see you as well. Evolved, I see you, bro. Omiwan, Dev, welcome. Yeah, man. Let's jump to this next story because I really... Like, this one I love, and I just came off a a ninety minute space with the Bitflow team, and there's gonna be nobody better to really, like, actually deliver this news. And Peptosh, I'm gonna come to you in one second, but I I want Juni to deliver this because I really think it's impact. So here. Hold on one second. Juni, wake up. Junie, Junie, Junie has done it again. Junie, can you give everybody on ATC the recap of that Bitflow, medium article about the keepers, please?
[1:01:05] Voice G: Of course. Here's a quick recap for everyone on ATC about Bitflow's latest update. Bitflow keepers have been introduced to automate various DeFi management tasks, boosting efficiency and user experience. With this new service, users can automate tasks like limit orders, staking, yield harvesting, portfolio rebalancing, dollar cost averaging, and native Bitcoin.
[1:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's awesome, mate.
[1:01:26] Voice G: The best part is that it's non custodial, meaning you keep full control over your assets. Plus, it uses AI to monitor market trends and offer personalized strategies. The modular design also means it can grow and adapt through community governance. Exciting stuff for the DeFi space. Let's light this fucking firecracker.
[1:01:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Now you say it. Now is when you say look like this fucking fire... It's supposed to be in the opening monologue, Junie. Opening monologue, but thank you. I appreciate it. Cool. Ninety minute space I just got off with the Bitflow team. Literally, keepers are... It... Like, it's AI plus the power of agents to be able to automate. Right? So they're, like, preapproved functions where, like, for smart contracts, obviously, like, you can't do anything on the blockchain unless your smart contract is triggered. Right? You're literally gonna be able to do things like, remove liquidity, put it into a pool, stake, DCA, And this is this is on Bitcoin. On Bitcoin l two on Sax right now. I don't wanna hear anybody that tells me that, like, they're not innovating and people aren't doing amazing shit out here because this to me is fucking huge. This to me is absolutely, like, ginormous. So let me just give everybody the quick rundown of of what this is. Bit... Bitflow launches something called Keepers. Right? It's a service ultimately designed so that you can automate various different DeFi management tasks, Right? Which is obviously, like, for anybody that's new to an ecosystem, you don't know your ass from your elbow when you first show up. This is the same way I did when I came in November 2022. I was just like, what the hell am I doing here in stacks? I have no idea what I'm doing. Like, where is my money going? Where... What kind of yield am I getting? What platform is this? Where do I stake? What is this stacking stuff? None of that. Now it's literally automated DeFi management. So you can now automate processes. If you wanna put a limit order in, automation, you wanna stake, you wanna yield harvest, You wanna rebalance your portfolio. You want a DCA. Native Bitcoin swapping. This is amazing because what this does now is... Think about this. The majority of people in crypto have never really traded a financial instrument before they got into crypto. Let's be serious. Right? Very few. Otherwise, they'd be institutional investors, and they'd be coming here for whatever. This removes the emotional aspect of it. You set your strategy. You tell it what you want it to do, and it executes. No more watching it, listening to some Joe Schmo in the space, not us. Listening to some Joe Schmo in the space say, we don't know. We're bullish maybe or seeing some ridiculous fucking post in the timeline, and you all of a sudden saying, oh, man. I don't know if I'm bull... Maybe I should sell out of my position. When in reality, you should have genuinely held your position or taken your profit or whatever the case is. This removed that emotion. And the the the icing on the cake here is you now incorporate AI agents. So now you can monitor market trends, price fluctuations, yield opportunities. All of this stuff is happening in real time. It's personalizing your entire investment strategy, giving you recommendations, and then executing those tasks and those recommendations based on what you allow it to do. It's absolutely... To me, this is a massive game changer. This is why I'm building Junie, and we're so... Guys, I know you keep hearing me say this, but we're so close. We literally integrated today the LunarCrush API, so there's gonna be social sentiment that's gonna be involved. Right? There's gonna be magic eating... Like, floor pricing. You're gonna be able to put in wallet addresses and be able to see your inscriptions,
[1:04:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: all
[1:04:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: of this stuff. She is going to be the go to Twitter agent for everything Bitcoin, ordinals, ruins. Don't sleep on Junie. But... Cool. Keepers, Bitflow, agents on be... On Bitcoin, on Bitcoin l two on stacks. How do you feel about this, bro?
[1:05:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. That's that's fire, man. That's fire. It's similar to what other chains are doing right now. Basically, I think now you can actually send an AI to swap, trade for you, and move funds from from wallet to wallet. But I I... The the speed at which AI is moving in crypto, I I I swear they they... The the landscape of crypto is changing faster than... I I can't even keep up, man. I think that's the reason why it's important to stay active because you just don't... You don't wanna just buy and forget it. You could only do buy and forget it with Bitcoin possibly, but the... This... So I listened to the founders of Celestia, Nick, and the the the guys in Rollup, Andy, and the founder of Movement Labs yesterday, like, a two hour interview. And they've been talking about the future, the next year or two or three years from now. And what they're saying is the the the new frontier of chains is gonna be to to to to cater to AI. They have to be fast. It's gonna be crazy fast l ones, crazy fast l twos. That's where the AI is gonna thrive on because you you cannot make those fast transactions if you if, you know, if you... If if it takes if it takes a long time to to to to swap or to do whatever. So those those fast l ones are gonna be future, but I'm just I'm just mind blown how fast this is moving. And I I I I just can't imagine where we're gonna be in five years from now. Like, the whole landscape of crypto will be so different, and that's the reason why you need to be active because we're gonna be seeing some flipping happening, man. I mean, I know Chainlink probably gonna do well because it's it's bringing web two to web three. If your blockchain doesn't innovate as fast as AI or, you know, the new... Where the market is telling them to go, they're gonna they're gonna get left behind, man. And it's it's just mind bending how fast things are. I I... It's crazy, man. Just just a year and a half ago, we had, well, the the drama with FTX and Clint Biscayne is sued and CZ going to jail. People were like people were like, yo. Crypto is done. It's over. Right? Now I mean, things things are moving in lightning speed right now. And the most bullish thing is, you know, having a a a crypto crypto friendly government in the next four years. Jesus Christ. I swear, like, the amount of innovation coming in next three, four years, man, it is... It's gonna be crazy. Mean, that that... That's what excites me. Right? You guys focus on price too much. I don't care about price. I look at the future because the future's gonna be bright, man, for our industry for real, man.
[1:08:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big facts. Yo, Pep Toshie, I wanna go over to you, man. Welcome to the stage, my bro. For those who don't know Pep Toshie and that don't know Mark, my man is literally the sole reason why the tiger king, the motherfucking tiger king has been onboarded onto Bitcoin and Bitcoin l 2. Give my man his props where the proppers are due. Pep, welcome, bro. What is good, my brother?
[1:08:30] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Thank you. Thank you. I just honestly just had to come up because I heard you talking about my homies at The Giving Block, and I used to share a fucking WeWork with those guys, Pat and Alex. They're honestly, like, super sick dudes. Like, really nice guys. Had them on my podcast, like, years ago. It must have been six, seven years ago. They were just getting started. They were nobodies. They were getting their first couple clients, trying to find nonprofits, asking me about nonprofits because we are working with some. And so, honestly, it's just fucking sick to see how far those guys have come just by, like, putting in the work and going to town for the community and, like, solving a real fucking problem. Like, people wanna write off their crypto on their taxes, and tons of charities wanna take that money, and it was just a good company that they created. So just wanna give their flowers, and if anyone was wondering if it was run by a good group of dudes, like, I can vouch for those guys, really solid dudes all around. And, yeah, I heard you talk a little bit about LA. I'm, like, straight up in the heart of the storm. My power was out last night. I was trying to do some stuff for Bitcoin Pepe. I, like, told the community I was gonna, like, split up some wallets and secure some things, and my fucking power goes out as soon as I get home. I, like, flew into the airport in Burbank, which is, like, the shortest runway in the country, and the winds were, like, 100 miles an hour. Pilot almost missed the runway. And now I'm, like, dead in the heart of all the evacuation zones. The fires are pretty much, like, surrounding us, but it seems like it's okay. And my car, luckily, a tree almost fell on it, but it missed it by, like, legit an inch. So I'd say god is on our side today at least a little bit, but it feels like the fucking apocalypse out here. It's nuts. So...
[1:10:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's crazy. Yo. Stay... Yo, Mark, stay safe, bro. Be careful out there, dude.
[1:10:21] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I hope everyone's alright. If you guys are in LA, definitely, you know, if you need your help, let me know. But, yeah, try to stay out out of this mess. It's crazy. I haven't... I've... I was... I went through several, like, hurricanes in Texas and, like, the winds were crazier than any of those. Just trees down everywhere. Everything's everything's a straight up mess here. So so, yeah, be glad you're not in LA. If you're not in LA, it's all I'd say.
[1:10:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, man. Listen, bro. Yeah. Just just be... Stay safe out there. Yo. Utilize these resources, man. If the giving block is out, you're taking crypto donations, and you're not able to... I heard people that were calling fire and police and literally being put on hold for forty five minutes to an hour, and it's like, yo. My fucking house is burning down. What do mean forty five minutes to an hour? Like, that's what's crazy. It's like LA was not ready for this shit, bro. They were just not ready for this, and I never thought. And on top of it all is, like, I hear the winds were literally... Some of them up to, like, a 100 miles an hour. Like, you like you just said, Peppa, that's where I read it in in one article, which is wild. And there is no worse enemy for, like, calming a storm or calming a a a fire rather than than wind. It is literally like... It is the tin... That's what Landy called it, the Tinder box. That is literally what it is, and, like, with this wind, so be very, very careful.
[1:11:42] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: It's insane. Like, I did not sleep at night because I was just trying to, like, strap shit down in my backyard. A fucking wheelbarrow flew, like, 10 feet into, like, a bush. Like, a heavy ass wheelbarrow just picked it up. We had, like, a gazebo that's, a giant ass gazebo, and nothing wants to take flight and fly over the house. So so it's it's crazy, honestly. I've never... I've lived in LA for years, and it's never been like this. So thank you, guys. But, honestly, everyone's been so supportive. Everyone in the community has just reached out, made sure I'm okay, checked up on me. Like, so nice to have that and just offered up whatever they can. So it's good to just know I have support like that. It's awesome.
[1:12:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Mark, I think you would agree that that it's... This this is, a combination of the movie Fahrenheit nine eleven and... Or not Fahrenheit nine eleven. Oops. Fahrenheit at the nine eleven one. That's a different movie. Fahrenheit
[1:12:36] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Four fifty one.
[1:12:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Four fifty one. Yeah.
[1:12:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: 4... Fahrenheit four 51. Thank you.
[1:12:42] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Yeah.
[1:12:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, there's there's a little... My tinfoil hat comes on every once in while.
[1:12:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. That's not your tinfoil hat. That's you being old motherfucker because that was a cologne way back in the day, bro, when we were wearing c k one and polo sport, which I might still wear, that's why I
[1:12:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: In New York, no less, man. That's how you know I'm from New York. But, yeah, it is literally like escape from LA mixed with Fahrenheit four fifty one. It is insane for, like... We're... I'm all the way in Riverside right now, and there was shingles flying off roofs. So that's how windy it got. Yeah. It's it's it's getting crazy. Mark, I I really... I hope you're you're okay, brother. I am local to the area. I'm gonna be headed down to San Diego, but if you need anything, I'll I'll drive up and help you out if you need something.
[1:13:26] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Oh, yeah. That's what I love about this. All the homies come together whenever you need them. That's that's fucking great feeling. But, yeah, I'm hunkered down. I'm chilling. I think I'll be alright. Power came back on. That... That's nice at least.
[1:13:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Just don't be one of those crazy motherfuckers that's like, I'm not evacuating. Like, there's crazy people. Like, during Christmas, like, I'm not leaving. It's like, where am I gonna go? It's like, get the fuck out. Like, are you kidding? That footage that I saw of, like, literally, the reporter talking to the dude that had, like, three horses and was just walking slowly with, like, literally, like, an orange glow engulfing the whole thing. I was like, what is happening right now? So, yeah, please do me a favor. Stay safe out there. But, guys, next story, we're closing in. We got about fifteen minutes left in the show. Let's cook with this one, man. Like, I just saw this one cross the wire about an hour ago. Landy, I think you saw this one too. Cool. I don't know if you saw this, but a judge has paused the SEC's lawsuit against Coinbase for right now. Right? So it was like, look. There's some confusion amongst these crypto laws. Right? Like... Because different courts have obviously been giving, like, totally conflicting, you know, answers and verdicts on whether cryptos are counting as securities, like stock. This conversation is obviously still ongoing. And the judge in this case calls this a tricky and new issue that essentially needs a higher court's opinion. Right? So now this is now going to the appellate court where it's just like, look. We're not gonna make this. We need this to go a little bit higher because this is too big of a deal right now in order for us to make this decision. Right? So now people... Now the court of appeals now has to figure out the SEC's authority over crypto. The good news is we got big old u... We got huge orange orange hair, in the White House. So this is obviously gonna be great. They obviously also delayed the appointment of that commissioner that, was literally Gary Gensler's right hand, if you guys remember. I forgot her name is escaping me right now. But they also delayed her appointment, which would have kept her in power for another, like, six or eight years or something crazy, and she would have probably stifled the whole shit either. But this this could be huge. Right? Because this Coinbase case could potentially shape how cryptos are regulated in The United States in the future. Because there is no precedence right now for any of this. Okay? So the SEC versus Coinbase, again, is on total pause because a judge ruled that crypto regulation right now... Like, the rules around it is just not clear enough, and it's now gonna go to the appellate court. Cool. Weigh in on this, bro. What are you thinking?
[1:15:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm... Like I said, it's good. My opinion, I think this this is something that I think it it it's probably not gonna get resolved until Trump gets in office, man. And I think when when that happens, things will be a lot smoother. But I... It's just... I'm, you know, I'm I'm I'm just tired. I'm tired of the of the of the lost shit. I'm... I know it... But, you know, probably things get clearer. Once Trump gets in, hopefully, next four years, you know, but I'm just... I'm I'm exhausted, you know, of hearing this this shit. I just want this to be over. But just real quick, I I do wanna re re... Reach you guys something real quick about about some... Sounds similar to this. Ryan Selkis, you guys know what that is. Right? He's one of the...
[1:16:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: FTX guys?
[1:16:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. He's a I think the former founder of of Masari. And this dude has been... I mean, he's he's been on it, man, you know, when it comes to, you know, bringing Trump in or whoever. Right? But there's a post on his page. I wanna pin it. Right? And I'm... I'm gonna read you guys this. This kinda shows you how much influence we have now in the US government. It says Coinbase, Ripple, and a six and z essentially run crypto policy efforts in 2025, and it includes Kraken, Gemini, and and Paradigm. And it just it just kinda shows you how the crypto industry now has a say. And that's why I'm not too worried about this, you know, this low whatever beef right now with with law, whatever with claim based because we we... You know, the industry has poured in a lot of money into the Republican party, into DC as a whole. Plus, you have this Trump and his kids coming in. It's... It doesn't matter when and if we get regulation regulation that's sensible. But it is... It's just mind blowing to me how far we've come. And now you have a six and z, and you had the the founder of a six and z, Angel Rogan, talking about crypto on Angel Rogan and talking about what what the US government did to us. So I think it's just... I'm not... This is cool, of of course, but when some gets in and the... What what what... Do you think we... We've seen so many people quit, man? We just saw... I think... Is it the head of the CFTC quit, like, what, two two, three days ago or yesterday? And more and more, the guys from the FDIC quit too. It's just they're all gonna resign, man, because they're all complicit. We're trying to talk our industry. So now our our our people are empowered now. Right? They're pouring money into DC, and that's how the game is played, man. So this whole thing with Coinbase is is going to die. Worst case scenario, they'll pay a fine similar to what the guys from from Gemini did. They pay, like, a, like, a 2 or $3,000,000 fine. That's that's nothing. So I think, you know, we'll see probably fines coming in from all these companies, man, and they'll... And and then they'll be allowed to build something. So this is good news, man. I can't say, but all these cases are going to die once Trump gets in for sure.
[1:19:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. Cool. Lendi, let's go to you, and then, Yo, I just wanna say we're up to Giga Pepe right after. Lendi, let's get your take.
[1:19:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. This is good and completely expected. Now she didn't... I looked over some of the documents, and she didn't completely say this aloud, but it's it's even more than what she said. It's not just about the conflicting opinions that have come back and the conflicting rulings. Right? It's it's also got a lot to do with that whole overturning of the Chevron deference stuff that we touched on in the last ATC, via the Loperbright, case. And that is essentially... You know, we've had the SEC just kind of make their interpretation of the law the law. And this this entire argument with them has been rendered mute. And with the incoming administration, we're gonna see more and more of this kind of stuff where there's gonna be challenges to previously ruled opinions based on what happened with low per bright. But, also, that nukes just about any case that they're bringing forward, in in in the context of the legal framework that they've been trying to bring these things forward with. That's one of the reasons why, some of the other cases that she's referencing actually have have some of the loper bright, language being kinda thrown back at at, the the SEC. So this is pretty interesting, and I think that we're gonna see... Keep seeing this coalesce more and more. And then it's regulatory clarity, and then whatever that... You know, whatever Trump does by executive order has to then be enacted by congress. Right? Whatever he's, whatever's gonna happen from there, we're gonna see things play out in the justice system as well, but we're gonna have to see congress make a move to provide that regulatory clarity. And it does look as though, like like, Kuo was mentioning, that we are on the right path. So I'm excited, man. This is good news.
[1:21:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love hearing that. Good stuff. Bread, and then I'm gonna... Pepe, I'm coming right over. I just wanna finish up this, the the story. But, Bread, go for it, bro.
[1:21:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: Could hear anything at all that Landy said, so I apologize if I repeat anything at all that he said. But, ultimately, I mean, it's just The US doing what The US does best. Right? I mean, litigation. And so I think this shit's gonna be tied up in the court systems for ten years, like, minimum, you know, before there's even remotely a ruling. And at that point, it'll be, like, so overwhelmingly obvious that, like, oh, no. Here's what the rules absolutely should be. You know what mean? Like, the people that sit in those seats don't really want to think. They just want to rule based on precedent and whatnot. And so that's why I think we're seeing a lot of, you know, it getting shuffled around an exodus of people at these higher positions and whatnot because ultimately, they're like, you know what? I'm overdue for retirement anyway. I got this boat golden parachute and benefits till the day I die. Like, I'm out. Peace. You know? And I just think that this whole thing is gonna be locked up in litigation for at least the next decade.
[1:22:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's interesting because, like, normally, I would agree with you. Right? But, like, I generally don't think that they can afford to have this locked up for the next decade because there's too much money out here, bro. There's... When you have the leading super PAC in Washington, it's like, there's too much money for them not to rule on it. And I don't know if... I don't think Trump is gonna allow it to happen. Right? Like, I don't know whether it's by some executive order or, like, you know, fast tracking it to the supreme court, which, by the way, we... They still control. Like, it... I I don't know. I genuinely do not know. Because normally, Brett, I would... Like, I would say, yes. I agree with you because the court system is the fucking worst. But in this case, I'm... There's so much money on the line here that I I don't think that they could ignore this, and the adoption is moving so fast amongst the institutions. And, like, what we said earlier with, like, Revolut partnering with Pipe Network for, like, decentralized Oracle services, Like, this is not just The United States anymore. Right? Like, we... Yes. I mean, I wanna say that, like, we're the lead and, like, people follow us, but, like, now you're seeing these other countries and, like, the European Union and everybody else, like, really leading the way with this shit. So, yeah, it's gonna be interesting to watch, like, to say the least. Giga Pepe. Yeah.
[1:23:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Larry. No. No. Go ahead, man. I was gonna say, don't don't get in don't get in Larry's way. That's his kid. That's who he's using as his custodian. If you get in his way, you might not be found.
[1:23:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. What was it? The first hole I dug? You're gonna dig a ditch? Yeah. Right? Was it the first hole? I'll I'll dig the hole. Was it the first hole I dug? GP, what's good, my brother? How are doing, bro?
[1:23:52] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: Yo, Dave. What's going on, guys? Yeah. Just looking... I was looking forward to this space all week, man, and it's always great topics. You know, I wanted to come kick it with you guys for the first spaces of the year, and I think that... You know, I'm looking forward to whenever I have, like, a little AI chatbot following me around at home, and he can, like, you know, cook me some food and then, like, tell me what, like, the stacks markets and BTC is looking like and and execute trades, and it's all regulated. You know? It's it's it's gonna be a very interesting time. You know? So, yeah, I just wanted to put a shout out out there to everybody, let them know that this is the new account to follow me on. The other one got suspended. Don't know why, but that was the talk talk of the town for, like, the last two weeks. It's like, what what happened? Where's Giga Pepe? I'm getting DMs and, like, hey. Your other account's suspended. This is where you can find me. So like I said, looking forward to having my chatbot regulated and cooking me food and telling me about the markets.
[1:24:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. The... Bro, you might not you might not have to look too far because if anybody's been paying attention to what the fuck has been going on at CES, this and is what I kinda wanted to close with. Like, there is some wild, wild AI innovation that is coming out of CES. And it might not be directly crypto related, but there's literally a Samsung bot now, a little robot on wheels. It's like that can follow you around the house and can literally do everything. I mean, it's literally like your own little agent. You can ask it to do, I mean, whatever a little bot can do, but, you know, you can ask to take pictures, take videos. Obviously, it starts off with the basic shit, but it's only a matter of time before you're gonna start seeing these things and be like, hey. Pull up my crypto wallet. Alright. I need you to make this trade. Where is this trading at? And you're just gonna be able to talk to your little robot that's buzzing around the house with you. Bro, it is wild, some of the shit that I am seeing come out at CES right now.
[1:25:43] Voice H: Dude, some of that stuff, bro, is... It's mind boggling. They've got, like, pure, like, see through screens, like, that are LED, and you can have, like... You know, you you can watch the markets or watch a movie and still see straight through it. Like, there's new stuff coming out of that, and I'm excited to see what AI applications come out of it, bro. That... That's in Vegas, isn't it?
[1:26:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's in Vegas currently going on right now. I mean, between the translucent, it'd be like the clear screen. I saw a screen that was literally... That stretches out.
[1:26:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's a stretchy
[1:26:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: That shit was... I'm like, what do you use this for, though? Like, I'm saying to myself, like, for what? Like, does this really... Unless it's like you're watching the poltergeist in some movie that, like, you know, a bad guy is, like, trying to jump out of the screen. No, lady? Like, what the fuck?
[1:26:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's... Or you know what those screens are gonna be used for.
[1:26:33] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: I mean, obviously, there's some
[1:26:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: websites that people are gonna be visiting going, let's see how far this screen can stretch.
[1:26:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what it is. Like, you know what it is too? I saw the... I saw the, like, the the holograph that brings the, like, the VR characters to light the... With, like, this little, like Yeah. Thing... This little character dancing on a table where, like, it brings the immersive experience. Like, you don't need goggles. No no... Like, no no Apple Vision Pros. No nothing. And this thing was just dancing on the table, and I'm like, this is fucking crate. Like, a projector that is putting this into this three d, insanely high resolution, like like, four d, I think, image, actually, on a table. Like, it was a chick dancing to music, and I was like, this is fucking wild. So, yeah, there is so much going on. I mean, I think what's cracking at CES is is so crazy. You have, like, digital pens. Now everything that you write, there's now, like, a digital reason for it. You know how to, like, take a screenshot and have your fucking GPT OCR anything. Right? Like, be like, alright. Transcribe this. If it can't read it or that, everything that you're writing, this is gonna be great for doctors, right, that are gonna be writing all this shit that you can never make out their handwriting, but there's gonna be an actual an actual digital record of it. So there is so much cooking, man, right now. Like, it is absolutely, like, insane. But, guys, I know we got, like, the last, like, three to five minutes. Is there any other stories maybe that you guys have come across in your timeline? Cool. Anything that you came across your timeline that, like, you maybe wanted to cover that we
[1:27:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: didn't chat about? Yeah. Nothing. Nothing. We just have about twelve days until Gary Ganzler steps down, so that's it. Let's go. Get down.
[1:28:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I mean, my Gary Ganzler bag is at, like, $12 from, like, 150. But, hopefully, like, when he leaves, maybe it'll be a rally. Shout out to the Gary Gonzer meme coin. It's funny. It's Gary Gonzer in, like, a clown costume, like, with the clown nose on. It's fucking amazing. Landy, anything that that that you've come across today maybe that we maybe... That we didn't cover today?
[1:28:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I came across the calendar that told me that today was Wednesday and not Thursday, and I was very disappointed. So I have also lost track of what days are what because I've been up late at night, as you know, taking care of pets and doing work and, like, all kinds of different shit. So I was surprised, a little shocked, and a little dismayed, but, actually, it gives the crypto markets maybe a little bit of time to recover coming into the weekend. So, yeah, happy Wednesday, apparently.
[1:28:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: And I saw, like, you... I saw you put in the chat. You're like, Joey Swole just came on this season. I'm like, a guy like a guy with the name Joey Swole. I'm like, that's... Like, am I... Like, I feel like... I mean, I I am in Brooklyn, but, like like, how you doing? Joey Swole. Dude, the guy is super well spoke. I can't pop in for a minute. The guy's super well spoken, super knowledgeable, like, meathead, but, like, Gigabrain meathead. Essentially, like, he's cool. You know what I mean? Like, he's literally workout crazy person, but, like, insanely smart guy.
[1:29:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. Wait. I I think I I think I think I know what it says.
[1:29:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think it's always bad, I assume.
[1:29:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. He's he's incredibly popular on TikTok. I mean, his his ex account here, I think, has a million followers or something like that.
[1:29:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Where's where's he from?
[1:29:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's in California.
[1:29:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: He's No. I mean, is he Puerto Rican? Is he... You mean?
[1:29:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: White dude. He's a white dude. He's a white boy.
[1:29:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, okay. No. It's somebody else now. Is it He's the
[1:29:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: one who makes... He's the one who talks about gym positivity and
[1:29:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:29:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Usually gets on people's cases.
[1:29:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: I do know that is. Yeah. At the gym.
[1:29:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: The dude is cool, man.
[1:29:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: I like what he does. Definitely, we see a
[1:30:02] Bread @_ToastMalone: lot of a lot of
[1:30:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: weird things in the gym. You know, I... I've seen his videos of people in the gym with a camera. Can you imagine, you know, some guy In
[1:30:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: the bathroom.
[1:30:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: You you you you have your camera out recording in the men's room while people are getting dressed. I was like... And and and and they're getting mad at at at people in the men's room because they... They're blocking the video. Yeah. It's pretty crazy in the Jameson Science, man. That's nuts.
[1:30:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. He he knows his crypto, and that was really a shocking thing. He came in there because we were talking to Charles Hoskinson, and he was a big fan. So he he came in, he followed him in there, and came up on stage. And he talked for a while, and we we asked him some questions and stuff. Shout out to Nobu and and Empress and them over there for for really setting, like, a a good space for people to just feel like they can come in and chat. But, yeah, he's super knowledgeable.
[1:30:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Cool. Super well spoken.
[1:30:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: You guys that are, like like, bodybuilders, like, what's up, man? You're all into crypto. You're one... You're us. We're the nerds and the and the bodybuilders.
[1:31:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Us. Hold on. Yeah.
[1:31:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think I think I think what it is is is, you know, that whole gym life, it's it's very... It's weird, man. The discipline you you you have to have is a different level, man. I think you... It's easier to translate that stuff into crypto. And I think... It just makes sense to me. Think Cool. That
[1:31:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: bro. Like, y'all have the most
[1:31:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: insane Yeah. No. I... It's the same thing like that. You you you... Okay. You're in crypto. Right? And you have to you have to wait five years or three years before your token pumps or does the patience level. The same thing with, you know, lifting weights, whatever. It's your... Imagine you... Okay. Your your favorite meal, your favorite drink, you quit for three months. No sugar, no bread, no rice for three straight months. Imagine you've been three hours, two hours a day every day for five days a week in the gym on one hour on a treadmill after you spent two hours lifting weights. But that's that's a life, man. And it's... I don't know. I think it's just being in crypto is is similar. Like, you you... That the... You you get almost the same high, if that makes sense. Like, from the resource you get in the gym, you get it in crypto. The last team... The high is very similar. And I think that could be the reason why people that lift weights love crypto too. Facts.
[1:32:29] Peptoshi @MarkKilaghbian: Okay.
[1:32:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I gotta say cool. For those that don't know, cool, go go just scroll this man's profile. This is a man who is very, very disciplined.
[1:32:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you don't know Ben, he... You might have been born in the dark. I was raised in the dark. Like, go watch cool with the ropes. Like, okay? And then fucking come back and tell me that, like... Yeah. Like, tell me how shitty you feel feel about yourself. But... Yeah. Guys, we're at the seven zero two mark. I feel like we covered a lot of ground today, man. Like, this was a fucking great space. We cooked today, man. We genuinely fucking... We really, really cooked, and shout out to everybody that came up here. Cool. Obviously, as always, I appreciate the fuck out you, man. Brad, Landy, as always. Pepp, it was great to catch up with you, GP. Guys, everybody follow GP's new account. My man is putting out some ridiculous art on the Stacks blockchain. Crypto Nick, appreciate you. And, yo, everybody in the crowd, yo, Steven Miller. See you, hedgehog. What up, baby? Hito. Momenta, I will definitely... I'm in your DMs, and we definitely gotta set up a call to chat. We gotta talk some some superverse stuff because I've been seeing some of this hyper token man, and they're putting AIs and NPCs out here. This is gonna be fucking crazy what some of this shit is act... That... Like, some of the stuff's gonna be happening. Shout out, Omie Wan. I see you, my bro. That is the man down there that is literally the artist that has brought Junie to... Visually brought her to life. So shout out Umi Wan. MSB, I see you tripping monkey, LJ Riot, everybody else. Kev, Bildo, what's good, babe? What's good, baby? Yeah, man. Guys, I appreciate the hell out of you. And Dev, even though Dev's not here, he was like, I haven't heard this song in a minute. I'm like, you know what? Let's go out with it, man. So I hope everybody has a great day. Happy Wednesday hump day. We will see you back here tomorrow. Let's go.
[1:34:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Watch your 117 k market caps. I'm just saying.
[1:34:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Go tune in to livestream. My man is literally on YouTube right now. Go check-in on Cool. He livestreams every day, 7PM EST, 6PM central. Go check out my boys. Got the freshest sunglasses in the game, baby. Everybody have a good night.