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Episode · Jan 9, 2025

All Things Crypto: When there s blood in the streets

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The hosts and guests discussed the current Bitcoin market bleed, with Bitcoin hovering around the $92k level amid heavy liquidations of roughly $10B in open interest. Much of the conversation focused on the US government's planned sale of Silk Road-seized Bitcoin, which speakers viewed as manipulative timing designed to create fear ahead of Trump's inauguration. The group emphasized that this is recycled news with court approval dating back to 2023 and that such "blood in the streets" moments are classic shakeout tactics. Additional topics included a Welsh man's decade-long legal battle to recover a hard drive with hundreds of millions in Bitcoin from a landfill, MetaMask's entry into Bitcoin, NVIDIA's potential move into ASICs, AI agent token utility, and decentralized physical infrastructure (DePIN) projects. The speakers encouraged long-term conviction, patience, and avoiding emotional reactions to headline-driven volatility. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

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DaveKoolLandyAlphaGamer
Chapters
Welcome and current Bitcoin market bleed near 90k
US Treasury planning to sell ~69k Silk Road Bitcoin
Discussion on whether government sale is bullish or manipulative
Landy clarifies no BTC has been sold yet and pins Arkham Intel
Media recycling old news to manufacture fear
$10B in open interest wiped out and current support zone
Nonfarm payroll data expectations and economic manipulation
Judge halts attempt to recover 600M GBP Bitcoin hard drive from Welsh landfill
AlphaGamer and Dave banter about white pineapple pets and game changes
Criticism of mainstream media coverage of California fires
NVIDIA establishing dedicated ASIC department for Bitcoin mining
Utility and economics of AI agent tokens
Potential new virus outbreak in China and pre-inauguration risks
Junie AI roast clip and her expanded API capabilities
Kool Crypto's current strategy of collecting roles and watching Trump effect
AlphaGamer and Landy on due diligence for new AI projects and security
DePIN projects including Helium, Hive Mapper, and Celencio
Farming best practices and providing liquidity
Satoshi AI / Cypher Genesis on Bitcoin layer 1
MetaMask entering Bitcoin support and wallet UX comparison
Phantom wallet features including Bitcoin Taproot and cross-chain swaps
Risks of linking social identities and wallets via ENS/BNS
Bitcoin BroBear crew and Ruins collection shoutout
Upcoming WagMe Hub AI agent space tomorrow
Transcript
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# All Things Crypto: When there s blood in the streets | 2025-01-09 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1ypKdpdmWvYKW | status: approved
# Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed.

[0:02:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop.
[0:02:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Up there. What up, baby?
[0:02:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Josiah. Let me go get some new faces up here. What's good, my boy?
[0:03:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Get out to see, hoe.
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[0:04:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can y'all imagine, like, five foot, one and a half inch, like, Landy trying to pop and lock, like, in the club or something? That shit must been crazy. So, like, the girls walking up there. You're so tiny.
[0:05:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up, y'all? Welcome everybody to another episode that is going down in the books at ATC, all things crypto. We are cooking as always out here. It is Thursday. This is our last show of the week. Until next Monday. Yeah. The markets are bleeding. We're dying out here. Dying. But what are you doing is the question. Bitcoin may drop under 90,000. And if anybody does read Landy's technical recaps, I don't don't think I've ever read actually a single one. I probably should. I probably should at this point, Landy, if I'm being honest, just to see exactly, like, what the hell we could be doing. Because I feel like every time you say, hey. If they read my shit, they would've known. And I'm like, would they have? Yeah. We got... We we gotta check. But welcome, everybody. I hope everybody is good. This year is off to a great start, man. Like, I've been... I don't know about you guys, but I've been, like, cool crypto type busy. You know what I mean? Like, show after show after show, space after space after space, an amazing Bitcoin space this morning. Curious to hear how your guys' day went, but let me say what's good to my cohost and my speakers. Cool crypto. What is good, my brother? How are we doing?
[0:06:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. What's up, guys? How you guys doing? I'll come back. Oh, GM. GM. GM. Hope you guys have a great day. Hope you guys haven't been too scared with the market, but we're we're here grinding, man. So every day every day is a is a good day. So red red, blue, or green, I'm here.
[0:06:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: You said red, blue, or green. We here. I wonder what the blue is. I I don't really know. But, Landy, what is good, my bro? Welcome.
[0:07:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I'm over at Costco waiting to pick up some pizza because we're traveling. We gotta work. There I am. So I'll be
[0:07:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: back in just a moment. Yeah. You good. You just didn't wanna answer the pop and log question. That's what it was. Cool. You know what I mean? That's what it was.
[0:07:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I can pop and log.
[0:07:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Can you imagine Lendi popping and logging? That shit would be crazy. Lendi, I would genuinely pay money to see that, just so you know, even though I know, like, you rich as shit. Just so I would definitely pay to see that, bro. Just just so you know. Shout out everybody in the building. Yo. Hollywood Chrome is in the house. What up, Mometta? Some big, big, big Asto to think news today, Futureverse, Readyverse. We'll tackle all that stuff a little bit later too. I mean, this this some crazy stuff going on right now in terms of what AI is doing, the metaverse, and it is directly crypto related. So, yeah, man. We got we got a good show for you guys today. LJ was good. Dev, shout out to you, Riot, GP, Nava, Vegan Things, and everybody else that came through. G geez, I see you. Paul, what up? And everybody else that came through, man. So, guys, let's kinda jump right into the stories of today. I'm trying to figure out, like, where do I actually wanna start today? I don't really know, but BlackRock selling a lot of BTC. Lots of BTC. Lots and lots of BTC. But before we even get there, let's talk about the US treasury for a second. 69,000... Was it... It was 6... It was actually 69,000 Bitcoin. I don't know the exact number. That would be funny. It'd be for $69,004.20. But they are literally out there selling Bitcoin, or they're about to sell some Bitcoin against court orders from the Silk Road seizure, I'm assuming, to try to bypass and get a little money money before mister Trump gets into office. Cool. Do you see this news? There's some shisty shit by this administration, bro.
[0:08:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm not I'm not surprised, man. They've... They spent a lot... They printed a lot of money. They've sent a lot of money to Ukraine. And I think this this last straw, I think there's, like, what, thirteen days left for Trump gets in. They they try and liquidate this shit. Right? I... I'm... I... God knows who gets the money, I'm sure. It's not gonna go in... Into some corrupt guy's pockets, right, possibly. But... Look. It's good. Sell it, man. I mean, seriously, because you you want this. I mean, to me, I call this bull... Bullish selling. The faster you you you you get this out of way, it's done. Right? You move on, man.
[0:09:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. They literally said that there was institutions lining up. Like, they might be trying to negotiate some sort of a block OTC trade with the government at this point because they'll eat that shit up in a heartbeat. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, not not like 60,009 big... It's a couple 100,000,000 doll... Wait. How much is it? 69,000?
[0:09:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: 6,000,000,000.
[0:09:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, $69,000 Bitcoin is 6,000,000,000?
[0:09:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Shit. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:09:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: But it's 60,000. It's it's
[0:09:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: not yet.
[0:09:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: But They haven't sold anything.
[0:09:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's 6... No. So there's been a lot a lot of uncertainty. Right? But I... Yo. The the market cap of of of Bitcoin is, what, 2,000,000,000,000? What is almost 2,000,000,000,000? 1 point something trillion. You sell 6,000,000,000. That's not even that's not even 10%. I I don't I don't get... Look. Look. Is... This is how you know that this this is all fear driven. Right? And and it's fascinating to me because I'm like, why are you guys... Why are people flipping now over over... I I don't I don't get it. If if MicroSeller was selling Bitcoin, yes, massively. And you said Blackhawk was selling... If... Man, it's so funny to me because we... We've been through this before over and over again. We had Germany sell. We made it. We've had... There's so much fun, man. I I just I just laugh because I've I've seen this so many times. This is nothing new. It's a tactic these guys use to shake you out of your bags, man. But like I said, I'm just I'm I'm too busy doing all this stuff. I don't really focus on markets daily anyway. So... But I don't think you guys should either. I don't think so.
[0:10:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're gonna talk about that. I got some I got some farming play that I think I'm actually gonna start farming cool. I'm I'm... Excuse me. And I'm gonna need your help on exactly, like, some some... Yeah. And I'm I'm gonna need to figure this shit out. I mean, it's pretty straightforward, but, like, I want some, like, best practices in terms of what I need to be doing. But, Landy, I don't know whenever you're back if you wanna chime in. I don't know if you wanna chime in on this. I don't know if you have some. I'm assuming this is, like, the main thing that you follow. But, yeah, twenty four hour volume, by way, is at $65,000,000,000 in Bitcoin right now. So 6,000,000,000 is literally 10% of twenty four hour volume. Yeah. Go for it, bro.
[0:11:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: So they haven't sold anything. I'm gonna post the link to the ArcaMintel Wallet Watcher for the Silk Road Bitcoin. It's about 6,500,000,000 or 6,900,000,000. I can't re... Really remember, but I know for a fact they haven't sold anything. This is somebody taking advantage of the articles that came out in response to the... This... Okay. So they've been authorized to sell the Silk Road Bitcoin since March 2023. So this is just convenient timing ahead of the inauguration for them to scare the shit out of the markets and have whales take advantage of it.
[0:12:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Okay. I mean, people see US government selling, and they're like, oh my god. It's like Kool said, like like you're saying, Landy, it's just like... It's like this fear and, like... I don't know. But in the same breath, I'm literally seeing Bitcoin miner, CleanSpark, literally has a 10,000 BTC treasury. Like, that's a 236% year over year growth. So people get... Like, if you're literally gonna get shaken out now, like, Bitcoin is literally still at 92.6, like, k. Like, think about just where we were. Like, this is not great. I don't know what anybody... And and I'm curious, guys. Like, maybe we can give people some more context. But, like, I think that once Trump gets inaugurated, we're gonna see the, like, the match literally being lit, like, fucking crazy. And this is just my opinion. Everybody obviously has to formulate their own. But I think, like, now... Between now and then, this to me is, for me, expected. If we start seeing further down action after the twentieth or, like, right into February, then I'm like, alright. Maybe this isn't kinda like what I was what I was saying, and maybe I gotta adjust a little bit. But I think after the inauguration, we're gonna see this match fucking, like, light, like, a torch, and we're gonna see this market do some crazy things. Yeah.
[0:13:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. So so you you heard what... Oh, I'm... My bro just said, Mandy, right, about... They got approval to sell in twenty twenty three, January. So why aren't these news networks or crypto news networks reporting accurate news, man? They're doing this shit on purpose, man. Because if they say, oh, yeah. They got approval almost two years ago, that doesn't scare the market. But it it it sounds like the way they put it out is... They made it sound like the approval just happened, like, yesterday or this morning. This is how you know. It's not a fucking scam, bro. Like... But like I said before, this is same strategy. Remember China bans Bitcoin? China, they they they they say they ban Bitcoin a year ago. A new article comes out saying they ban they ban Bitcoin, but they never they never said they stopped banning it. They're recycling the old news over and over again. I just... To be honest with you guys, no no joke. I really, really hate talk... I hate talking about this shit because it's just... It's like, wait. Wait. Wait. Talk about a fucking scam, man. An obvious scam, and we keep talking about the scam. Of course. Don't get me wrong. It's juicy. The scam is juicy. People people... The... Your your spaces grow more if you if you feed into the scam. Right? I get it. But, man, I I am Thai. It's like it's like a boy crying roof... Wolf over and over again, and there's no wolf, man. This is the same play this guy's run. Guys, even if Bitcoin goes to 80 k, I'm still bullish. Even if Bitcoin goes 75 k, I'm still bullish. You know why? We... We've seen the the long term view of this stuff, man. Like, the long term aspect of this thing is crazy bullish, man. Guys, like... So I... That's why I'm like, of course, the the the DJ News and Court Telegraph, they feed into this stuff to get clicks, and influencers feed into it to get clicks. So... But it's it's a part of game, man. But you just got... You have to understand that this shit is not real. Like, it's not... It's a mirage, man. Because you're... They they they they gain a hype over news that, you know, the approval came 2023. That makes no sense, man. So... But like I said, don't fall for this shit, guys. Right? If you're a trader, that's different. Of course. If you're a long term holder, just chill, man. Go talk to Grassman.
[0:15:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. But, Lenny, so the story that I saw, right, was saying they got court approval. Okay? Or rather they didn't get court... Essentially, like, there's still, like, an... They got court approval, but they're still, they they still can't sell because there's still the ability to appeal. I don't know if somebody did appeal. Are you saying that it's like, if they do... Like, I got the impression from the writing, like, or the article that they're not... Like, it's against the law for them to be selling. Was that just me making an assumption?
[0:16:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. So they got the they got the approval in July 2023 originally, but because there is interested parties that can tie it up in court, then they technically can't sell it until these these petitioners have been addressed. So, essentially, with the article... What they're trying to piggyback off of is one of the petitioners, hold their their, petition, but there's still a whole bunch of others. So they'd use it as an excuse to bring it up. I just pinned the Arkham Intel, which is, you know, they they they... They're like everything on chain. They do a great job. They... They've tagged this particular wallet. And if you look up top, where I pinned their their post, which is kind of funny. I actually enjoyed this post. Like, just look on chain. They haven't sold anything. This is manipulation. You know, that... This is, manipulating the emotions of the market. We were very, very, very overleveraged and open interest in the markets after Bitcoin hit 90... Below $92,000. We're in a zone of interest around 92,000 to $88,700. This is kinda the primary zone that everyone wants to see hold up. We got that run into it, you know, about a week and a half ago. Right? And then we shot right back to the upside to over a $100,000 very, very quickly, and the market got very excited. People were putting on a lot of bets on high leverage, and now, well, they just all got washed out. About $10,000,000,000 in leverage just got washed out. There might be even more.
[0:18:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: 10,000,000,000?
[0:18:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Holy shit.
[0:18:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I did not know it was accurate.
[0:18:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: 10,000,000,000 in open interest. We were at about 34,000. Last I looked, we were at 24. So they wiped out about $10,000,000,000 in open interest from the from the market.
[0:18:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Holy shit. That is... Is that, like, the biggest liquidation? Like, oh my god. That's crazy.
[0:18:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, well, it... It's not liquidation. Likely, people, you know, just taking their positions off. But... Yeah. Yeah. Big
[0:18:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Matasco, go for it, man.
[0:18:44] Voice E: Hey. Hey, Dave. How are you? Cool. Landy, I don't know if you guys already talked about this, but I just wanna make a a point. Think we're we're all kinda sitting on Twitter, and I'm sure most of you have seen this already. But the key thing that to look out for tomorrow, nobody cares if the government actually sold the Bitcoin, honestly. If if tomorrow... And, Lundy, I want your comment on this. Right before the election, I think November's nonfarm payroll was about 227 k. And the forecast right now is about 200 k, and I think the consensus is about a 160 k. Now the expectation is that it could be, like, about a 150, whatever. Who knows? But this is critical to whether Jerome Powell decides, oh, no. We have to, you know, hold off on the cuts, whatever. So I think a lot of people were kinda distracted with the Bitcoin thing. But on on the back end, there are... And I I know some of this data gets leaked to some big institutions, so they may know what's coming. So keep an eye out on that because, you know, if if if it becomes... And here's the thing. The Fed wants you to not have a job. That's the goal. But the point is if if the number goes higher, then we're not getting the cuts. Right? Because then they get really concerned. So... And this is just my view, by the way. I'm looking at different data points, and I'm just looking at this and saying, okay. I'm hearing all the talk about the Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin. I'm like, what could be the? And, obviously, a lot of people are gonna be making money on the on the back of people's panic selling, panic movement. I mean, when I look at these charts, I mean, it's like v v shapes, and I'm... It tells me something. It just tells me that somebody is taking positions because these dips don't last. Right? There's significant buys that literally come up. And so I wanna get your take on that, Landy, but I think we're... I I feel like, you know, Twitter, as we are here, we're missing the point. And, hopefully, tomorrow, it comes in line. But if it doesn't, it proves one point that I know, which is this whole data points is all fake. Right? How come before the election, somehow the data was being consistent? And Jerome Powell is sounding and all of a sudden to the election, things start to look really sketchy and scary and, oh my god, it's falling apart. So it confirms one thing that, okay. It's all fake. They're just playing with our emotions. I'm in crypto. I'm doing more hours in crypto than my normal job. So at some point, what do I need to do more? But,
[0:21:59] Voice E: have to campaign where they can dump all they want. Who cares? They're actually somewhere. And we all have to just pay attention to that.
[0:22:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: I might be coming in a little spotty, so my apologies ahead of time. But, you know, I mean, I... It... The the real economic numbers are garbage. We know this. They've been cooking the books for a while, and they've been waiting for Trump to get into office to start just slapping him in the face with it. And I don't think he's gonna take it. Right? So I'm not concern... I'm not concerned about this nonsense that they're gonna try to pull with the with the numbers that are gonna be coming out. They're completely expected, and I expect them to keep pulling this all through the first quarter while he's in the process of putting in place his agenda. So I... That's one of the reasons why I've mentioned more than once here, I'm very focused on the first to second quarter of this year. I'm not concerned about whether the numbers hit or miss. The the market already knows everything that we've been talking about here in that regard. So, you know, they're they're just playing games with liquidity on the backs of the news. They're positioning ahead of time just like, you know, run it run it right to the top side of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a microcosm within the larger liquidity cycle. Right? So you can look at Bitcoin and get a very good edge on what's going on in the rest of the market as well. You see that they ran everything up to the top sides in the lower term time frames to get position to drop it right out the bottom. And that is all... That's gonna continue to happen. This is something that... You know, I'm not I'm not worried about traditional market structure. I'm not worried about Bitcoin's market structure right now. When we see
[0:23:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: I keep getting calls. But when we see highs put in, we we... Then we can start speculating. Okay. Is this the top? And even then, we won't know until market structure changes. Right? Now in terms of these economic events that are coming up, expect games to be played. I used to play games when I was in the market. We all know how this goes. And I would expect far more games to be played now that Trump is going to be in power because they are going to do everything they can to slow him down, especially on the economic front. They need they need their parachutes, and they're afraid that he's gonna rip the parachute off their back and throw them right out of the damn plane. And that's exactly what he's planning to do. So one of the big things that a lot of people need to understand in in this space and others is that when those starts cutting all these jobs out of the... Do you know the government is the is the number one employer in The United States right now? And when he starts cutting jobs, guess what? Those jobs reports are gonna be nasty. And then... And the market's gonna take advantage of it. But you gotta understand if the real economy is improving, the underlying metrics are improving on the backs of that, it's all gonna be gravy, baby. That's when you wanna be in the market. You wanna be looking for what's coming up. You wanna be buying those dips in traditional markets, in crypto markets, and all that stuff. And it might not be moon very soon, but it's moon over the next four years. And I think that's what people have to start getting in the mindset of here.
[0:25:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great analysis, Landy. Man, my man is in debt. Matasco, anything you want to reply back to Landy, or did that cover your... Into the question?
[0:25:39] Voice E: I I agree with him. Spot on. And I think he highlighted the point I was making that it's all a manipulation game. So, you know, again, it's easy to say this here lightly, but most people, when you have money depending on how much you have in the market, you're gonna panic regardless of who's telling you what because it's your money that is at stake. And so, again, just be careful, but just know that we've seen this before. We know who Trump is. We know what he's gonna do. This is not even a hidden thing. So if you are... If you're somebody who likes to take risks, I mean, you know, the options market is like... They're they're celebrating right now because every little move is gonna create one thing or another, and people are already figuring out their ways around. So I'm just excited. It's just fasting. If you enough to learn about these things, it just helps you. It helps your mindset. It helps everything. So thank you, Landy. I just had to add to comment.
[0:26:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff, boys. I love this. You guys ready for this next story? I don't know if this is painful or or or what, but, hold on. Let me pull it up with my computer's freezing up. I gotta pull it up on my phone, but, this came across in my group chat. Shout out, Mainzey, for putting this in the group chat. Listen to... Oh my god. This literally is just painful. Okay? So the title or rather the, what's it called? The, the title of the article, judge halt attempt to retrieve £600,000,000 Bitcoin wallet from Welsh dump. This is over $700,000,000. Okay? A computer expert's decade long battle to recover a £600,000,000 Bitcoin fortune, he says has been lost in a council dump, has been halted by a judge. James Howell's thirty nine launched a legal case to force Newport City Council to allow him to search the site to retrieve a lost hard drive containing the Bitcoin. The council sought to strike out the claim, and a judge has ruled in its favor. Sitting as a high court judge, Kaiser... Judge Kaiser said on Thursday that Howell's claim had no realistic prospect of succeeding if he allowed the case to continue. The judge said he accepted the council's argument that it owned the hard drive, and Howell's not entitled to try to retrieve it. How... This is 2013 my man lost this hard drive, literally, and just remembered, oh, shit. I lost it in this fucking dump over here. How crazy is something like... Bro, I'm not... Yo. Cool. You thought that's cheap, but you knew it bad. Imagine losing 600,000,000 in Bitcoin. Holy shit. How y'all feel about this?
[0:28:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: Do you feel so good? Bro, bro, that's that's that's that's next level shit. That's next level. Like, I don't even know... I don't even know, like
[0:28:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: gonna take a lap.
[0:28:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro, okay. I I I don't even know where to start with this one. I feel bad, though. 2013, that's been over ten years, man, of trying to find this shit. But what's crazy is how does he know it's there for sure? And what are the... Of of him? Could you... It's... If it's on a hard drive, like, over the past ten years, come on, man. He's not gonna find this shit, man. Like, he needs an army of of, like, you know, treasure hunters to find this shit. I don't think he's gonna find this, but this is horrible, man. The fact that it's been this long... Oh, but but see, what's what's what's crazy is I know if he's been around since then, don't you think he could've made some place in crypto to make up... Not... Maybe not 700,000,000 to make up a good amount of this. Right? What do
[0:29:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: you think? So... Wait. Cool. Wait. Before I answer the question, let's... I... Let me give you the... Let me give you more details. So the the dude, James Howes, said that in the summer of twenty thirteen, he accidentally put the hard drive containing his Bitcoin wallet in a black bag during an office sort out and left it in the hall of his house. His then partner is said to have mistaken the bag for rubbish and taken it with her on a trip to the dump where it has been lost. He quickly realized the mistake and ever since has been asking the council to help him retrieve the hard drive, even offering to share the money. Now Dean Armstrong, representing the Howells, right, the guy that's looking for it, said the search was not for a, quote, needle in a haystack, but for a, quote, precise excavation of a small area that had been identified and would be targeted by expert excavators. Now they argue that the hard drive had become its prop... Listen to this. The council hard drives said that it had become its property when it entered the landfill site. Its environmental permits would forbid any attempt to excavate the site for such a search. These guys realize, and they're probably gonna search for the shit themselves, bro. And they're trying to keep it because to say that... To sit... To use that as the argument, they're like, man, fuck this. And how has this speculated that by next year, the Bitcoins on his hard drive could be worth an estimated £1,000,000,000 and has previously vowed to take his case to the supreme court, which I think they should a 100% fucking take. That is crazy. That is crazy. What do you make?
[0:31:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So... No. No. No. So it's good you you you give some extra information here. So I do agree with you. I think they... I believe this thing is gone. I think it's gone, but they don't wanna give him the chance to find it. They wanna be the ones to to dig for this thing and try to find it because, I mean, governments are corrupt. We all know all all governments are corrupt. But this is a play to take hold of this thing if if they if they find it. I don't... I think it's gone, though. I don't think it's... But ten years, man. Come on, man. That's crazy. I don't I don't think they'll find it, but I think they don't want him to find it. They they wanna give... Wanna be the ones who for this stuff. This this reminds me of of a... Of this treasure hunter. He found, like, a bunch of gold on some ship somewhere, and they cut... The the country where he found it, they tried to take it from him. And I think I think they did. I think they did. But this is very similar to what they're trying to do, though. But, yeah, man, it's... I think it's gone, but I also believe that they... The UK, they want to be the ones to dig for this shit, man, and and claim it for themselves. It's so messed up, man.
[0:32:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's so fucked up. Landy, you wanna chime in, then we'll say what's up to alpha gamer and a few others. What's good?
[0:32:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bro, they took that shit. They got... They they know exactly what as soon as he notified them, they're like, oh, that one? Cool. And then they took it, and they're just waiting him out. They're gonna block him at every turn. They're gonna use everything they possibly can to stop him from obtaining the Bitcoin on that hard drive. And then at some point, they're just gonna go, hey. Guess what? We found some Bitcoin. We're gonna add it to our treasury, our local treasury. It's gonna be great. Bitcoin backed city. Isn't this awesome? And and... Yeah. No. This dude, unfortunately, I think he already knows this. I've I've actually... The... This story's been around for a long time if I if I remember correctly, and it's been an ongoing fight. So, you know, I think at this point, it's it's lawyer... Lawyers against lawyers, and they're not gonna show their hand that they already know where it is.
[0:33:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: D five dictator says he doesn't believe that hard drive story. It might just be a way to take people or government's eyes from him. That's interesting. Really interesting. Interesting. Yo. Somebody said... You know, D by Dictator also, crypto Landy's analysis would make you question your moves in the market. He's so good. Easy. We don't gotta fluff this guy up anymore. Right? He's at Costco. Hey, Lindsay. That that that Costco Wi Fi ain't what it used to be. Is it?
[0:33:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Man. I was all over the place when I was in there. I just got back, so hopefully, it's better.
[0:33:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alpha Gamer, you still got pizza pests that are alive, my boy. Welcome.
[0:33:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Dave, I know it was you, bro. I know it was you that activated that white pineapple.
[0:33:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Conspiracies, bro. It ain't me, bro.
[0:34:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I know it was you, bro. Because you even said you were out to get, you know, and kill my pets. I mean, you said it on tape.
[0:34:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I did say it on tape. You're right. And I'll tell you this much. If I get another opportunity and they shorten it and this whole... These changes go through, I'll fucking ignite that shit again. I mean, if if I had...
[0:34:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Damn it, Dave. Why? Just why?
[0:34:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just saying you have it too easy, gamer. Way
[0:34:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: too easy. Barely survived the the first one. It was close. Ain't gonna lie, man. I I actually got the... You know you know when it gives you, like, that message, like, on this block, your pet is gonna die. So I was like, damn it, Dave. What are you trying to do over here, man? I got the whole set, bro. Like like, why? Just just why the hate? You know?
[0:34:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got 12 immortals right now, gamer. 12 immortals, and I got another 11 on the way to the
[0:34:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Woah. 12. Bro, you... So you lost a lot of pets then.
[0:34:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? No. No. No. I mean, I lost a decent amount of pets in the d m... In the d m, We don't like to talk about that phase. Maybe 30 maybe, like, 33, but whatever. It's fine in the middle. Chill, bro. I tried to DMT that shit. I was mad lazy. I was like, let me see if I can push this shit through. It didn't work out as I thought it would, but... Hey.
[0:35:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hey. But I will but I will say, though, I am pretty happy with my strategy overall. You know, from the get go. Right? You know, I came in here, and I was like, hey. You know, I aligned everything, and lot of people gave me a lot of shit about having all white pineapple weaknesses. And, you know, looks like Junie was right, when she backed me up on my, my strategy. Because now I don't have to worry about it for five weeks. You know?
[0:35:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: So That might change. Don't speak too soon.
[0:35:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That might change. I ain't gonna change, man.
[0:35:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What do mean? Did you not see the post right now, like, as to what's going on? They're not gonna let you cruise into immortality, my boy. It's gonna What? Unless you're, like, you're cruising in tomorrow, but they're changing the recharge times.
[0:35:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. What?
[0:35:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. So what? When did that happen?
[0:35:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: So there's Matt... There's proposals. Taha was, like, asking people to essentially put some comments on...
[0:36:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Wait. Wait. So you're telling me people who've lost all their pets are making proposals to change the rules?
[0:36:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I don't know. Actually, I don't know.
[0:36:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That don't even that don't even sound right.
[0:36:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. We're just trying to fit... I think people are just trying to figure out, like... Because right now, like, think about it. They gotta think about the game mechanics. You want 17,000 immortals? I mean, alright. Maybe a thousand more die. You want 16,000 immortals? That shit don't make no sense. It's gonna crash the whole game. Made... Doesn't make it fun, so you gotta keep it... You know, they're trying to keep it spicy. But wait. Real quick. Before we get there, guys, I got Junie to fucking tweet. She's taking the fuck. All the APIs, LunarCrush, Ordyscan, CoinGecko, fucking Magic Eden. Oh my god. My little girl's coming alive on the blockchain. Oh, I love you, Judy.
[0:36:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Man, I've I've I've been so busy with this whole fire thing that's going on. This is insanity insanity.
[0:36:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn, man. Why you gonna why gotta make it so morbid? I was just gonna talk... I was... I'm up here, and you're gonna bring me down to the LA 5. Yes. Of course.
[0:37:05] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Can't help you, bro. Like, if if you're looking here
[0:37:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: for real?
[0:37:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm in the trenches, you know, trying to find these diamonds in the rough, and people keep hitting me up with, oh, did you see this? Did you hear that? I'm like I'm like, oh, that's cool and all, but I'm I'm trying to look at this, you know, sub sub 1,000,000 market cap right now. And... Ben, but I I will say this. You know, like, I I saw a video of Anderson Cooper, right, trying to trying to blame gravity for for them running out of water. So this is why... Yeah. Yeah. He was legit on... I I watched the whole... Fuck the the interview, the video. He literally was pointing at the fire saying that the the water reservoir tanks ran out of water because people were were spraying it on their lawns, and he's, like, trying to blame people for for using the water. And this is the kind of stupidity that... You know, this is the reason why if you're still watching... I don't even know what networks that he's on because I don't even watch I don't even watch mainstream media. So whatever network that guy's on, you're an idiot. I'm a tell you right now, you're the idiot for listening to these people because, like, he must have failed science class because... I'm sorry.
[0:38:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. No.
[0:38:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. Well, hold on. Hold on. With modern technology, there's this thing called a pump. I know a lot of you have not heard of this thing, but it's magical. It goes against gravity. Did you know that? You can actually turn a pump on, and it actually will shoot water into the air. Gravity. Oh my god. It's a miracle. Right? And they actually have pumping stations
[0:38:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Conspiracy thing.
[0:38:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Pumping stations all over around your neighborhood. You could... They're they're hitting pretty good, but you... It literally says pumping stations.
[0:38:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. But, gamer, this is... You know? Like, you gotta see the irony in this, like, coming from the guy who chooses to still stay in California. So it's a little irony there. You know what I mean?
[0:39:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Back... Well, hold on. I'm in Northern California, first of all.
[0:39:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, fair enough.
[0:39:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Got all the water up here. Right? There ain't gonna be there ain't gonna be none of that.
[0:39:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: So what the fuck we wasting time on this right now for? Shout out to everybody. Make sure you stay safe. We gave that... Lindy our sympathy yesterday. We got news to come. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm I'm kidding.
[0:39:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So I just wanna throw that out there. Stop listening to these idiots on their... I mean, they just just... They don't know science. They don't know math. They don't know, like, physics, what... You know? There's this thing called physics, and, like, all nature follows physics. Right? And, yeah, man, it just... The the stupidity, of just excuses that I hear
[0:39:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: coming out, man. The mainstream media is fucked. Yeah.
[0:39:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's... It's just mind blowing, bro. I'm just like, who believes this shit? And I'm like... And then I I... And I read the replies. I'm like, oh, a lot of people believe him, apparently.
[0:39:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what's crazy, bro. Gamer, I'll tell you a story in a second, but crypto details, welcome, man. I saw you had your hand up for for a minute. You wanna chime in on this convo? Doesn't have to be about the fires, but but anything else we chatted about?
[0:40:12] Lateef Oyewole @CryptoDetailz: Okay, Jim, bro. How are doing?
[0:40:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm doing good, man. Welcome to ATC, my bro.
[0:40:17] Lateef Oyewole @CryptoDetailz: Jim, Dave. Jim, Cookrypt. My brother, Precious, from Nigeria. My husband, a role in the market. I want to give my buzz about the markets. You know, I'm inter... I'm very, very interested in the topic. All these people, when there is blood... Like, I always believe, you know, as a technical analyst and a trader, the market has three phases. You have the manipulation, the accumulation, and the distribution. They are just trying to manipulate the markets. So every dump we have is just temporary, and Bitcoin is trading at 92 k presently, $92,500. Some... You know, during the election that November 5, we went from 67 k to $119.90. But, you know, the market has highly manipulated then. When you see maybe candles, these guys are just trying to manipulate because they they were at... They would buy... They prefer buying on discounts. So the market moved from October... Okay. November 5. Right? When Donald Trump was in the election, it's moved up to $60.92. So we had a little correction as at November 17. So then we moved up to 99 back, and we broke up. So we broke the... We had the previous autonomy at $10.07. So now these guys are just trying to... They prefer buying on discounts. They will never buy the top, and they are trying to take up the front ends of the market. So the present market now, we we assume that that block at 93 k could not hold, so we unlikely gonna eat 86 k. So we unlikely go for 86 k. I was up in the America America... In the American friendly whereby the Biden administration is selling off some piece of Bitcoin. And like you said, that's just a a little quantity. It runs after the market really like that. But due to fear, uncertainties, and doubts, people want to sell off. That's one. Then why is the market dumping? There's a there's a there's a virus in China that has been killing people, you know, just like close... Just related to, like, COVID nineteen.
[0:42:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? Where is this news?
[0:42:28] Lateef Oyewole @CryptoDetailz: So you didn't get the news? Is there a
[0:42:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, is there a... You're saying there's another virus in China now now that
[0:42:34] Lateef Oyewole @CryptoDetailz: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:42:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, fuck. There's a
[0:42:36] Lateef Oyewole @CryptoDetailz: virus in China. It was on the TO since... For some days back. So that's... Then the interest rates in American is increasing. So we have to wait for the CPI news. CPI should be second Wednesday of the of the month. And I prove we... Since if the interest rate has been called down, we should have an off road move. So then we... The next loan days, there will be non profit on. So the market is just having an equity correction. Like, we won't keep going to the paradise, and it's it's won't go to zero. So it's just we have to use as I speak to NTVI sports trailer. This is the best time to buy a discount level. The market has the discount level and the premium level. So it seems the is the best advice and always have good soft tools. So that's when you can eat it.
[0:43:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Right. So wait. Wait. Hold on. Crypto details. I love you, bro. I know you're new to the show, but... And I appreciate, obviously, as you give an insight, I think it's great insight, bro. But this is kind of like a news headline type show. So what we wanna do is we kinda just wanna update people, essentially on some of the bigger stories that are out there right now. So I appreciate the take. I would love to obviously have you back, like, chill out on stage here for now. You're more than welcome here. But I I gotta move on to, you know, I I wanna get to the next story if that's cool. It's not just so much like, hey. We got your take. I mean, we also have Landy here too. You know what I mean? And he talks forever, bro. You know what I'm saying? So... Yeah.
[0:43:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.
[0:43:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, game. Oh, look at gamer coming to the rescue. No. But crypto details, I appreciate that insight, man. I thought it was too... Like, very, very insightful. Thank you. But, yeah, hang out, bro. Feel free to come come back through. And if you if you want, like, come back, be a regular contributor on here, man. Like, it sounds like you really know what you're talking about. So definitely come through. Chat, let's let's let's... You know, I wanna cycle through the stories and and some of the other things that are happening out here in the markets to be able to kinda educate everybody else to kinda see, like, what's on the lookout, what are people looking at, what to steer clear of. But I appreciate the details. Thank you, man. Okay. Guys, what else do we got cooking? Hold on. Let me pull up the rest of the stories.
[0:44:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Is the NVIDIA Bitcoin miner?
[0:44:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: We talked about it yesterday, $3,000 computer.
[0:44:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Well, that's the the that's the computer.
[0:44:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Didn't say NVIDIA Bitcoin miner. What... No. What do you got?
[0:44:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. That was... Here. They keep... Yeah. They came out when Jensen came out with the the NVIDIA news.
[0:45:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: He came out with a lot of news. It's it's it's
[0:45:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[0:45:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: He came out with... Yeah. It was a lot, but the part... I'm trying to find it. Right here. Here, I'll post it to the top. There you go. But, essentially, yeah, they are establishing a dedicated ASIC department, and they already recruited a company called MediaTek, and they aim to enhance their custom chipset capability to maintain their leadership. So, yeah, NVIDIA, A Stick, Bitcoin miner, maybe.
[0:45:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's gonna be interesting.
[0:45:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. There's two parts to this, Dave.
[0:45:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Two.
[0:45:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: In their 30 series, they introduced lite hash rate, and they're gonna essentially be able to turn that on for the 33,000 series and up. And then they're also developing ASICs. This is something that we sorely need. We need we need more ASICs. This is right up my alley. I... If you want any more info, I can I can dig into that for you
[0:46:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: as well? So long story short, Dave, more efficient, right, and and compact size. Right? Because they already they already did that with the Blackwell GPU, you know, squeezing that supercomputer into a desktop. So what makes you think they can't do the same thing with a with a miner?
[0:46:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Really interesting. I saw also a gamer that we... In the chat, like, where you put that thousand dollar computer we were talking about yesterday. Mean, we lightly touched on it, but... Yeah, man. Like, I think, like, NVIDIA is crazy and, like, you know, the news that they gave about, obviously, AI agents. Somebody posed a really interesting question to me today or yesterday. I forgot what I forgot what it was. You know what they said? You know what they asked me? They said, what's the point of an AI agent token? And I genuinely thought about it, and I'm like, I actually didn't know, like, for the first time in a long time. I was kinda dumb. I was kinda stumped, and I was like, how do I best reply to this? Right? It's just like... It's not like it's like... When you look at tokens, it's like, well, you're not sharing in any of the revenue. Right? Well, if you're staking, then it... That gives you kind of benefits. Right? Like... But you have to have, like, some sort of a staking platform in order to get those rewards. But, like, why... Like, if you're just a regular holder, like, just price go up, but, like, why? Why are people holding AI agent tokens? Does anybody have a good answer for this?
[0:47:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Easy. I can tell you. Yeah. Because it's a piece of the technology, so it's like buying into that AI agent and that AI agent's ecosystem. And then the other portion is, you know, with many of these agents and and many of these platforms owning the token or a specified amount of tokens or even just using those tokens within the ecosystem, you can pay for access to those platforms, those agents, and then also facilitate agent to agent payments like what Swarm is doing... Swarms rather, and a few other platforms like that. I think that it's, it... It's it's setting up its own economy. Instead of using fiat in order to go and pay for access to these platforms and these agents and this new technology, we're just moving that over to the crypto side of things because it's easier for agents to actually work with those currencies between each other as well. So I think that's one of the bigger advantages of it. Because I'm actually really excited about that aspect of it. I wish I knew about all the other stuff like you do.
[0:48:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Yeah. I mean, when you say buy into the ecosystem, right, like, you're not sharing in any of the revenue. Right? Like, you have to have a ridiculous amount of tokens to stake in order to really see the, like, genuine benefit of now you're getting drops from other tokens. Right? Like, they're buying in on these investment DAOs and so on. But it's like, just to buy the token, it's like, price go up. But it's like, I guess, every... Everybody's kind of in the same boat.
[0:48:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, here... Here's what I would say is, okay. Let's say I buy Junie. Right? I buy the Tony. The the token. The Tony. Oh god. My brain. The token for Junie, and you're like, hey. I wanna make Junie available to the community where you can customize Junie's, you know, the the the the set to use for yourself for x y z. Right? And then I could use the Juni token to basically purchase that from you because it's gonna cost resources for you to spin up more and more agents per user. Right? So I could use the token there, and then, you know, you could do whatever you want. Take it as payment. You could burn it. You could, you know, stake it. You can do whatever the hell you want. Right? So I think that's one of the the key advantages that many are looking at, And then the agent to agent payment for facilitation of building within the ecosystem and having them use that liquidity is much easier than using, like, fiat liquidity. Right? Because then you gotta have a human for the fiat liquidity stuff in KYC.
[0:49:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good point. Good point. Good point. Yeah. Gamer, did you find... Were you looking for another story? Sorry. I I wasn't sure.
[0:50:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. No. I I was, sending something to the group chat. If anyone was looking for a AI job. But, other than that, no.
[0:50:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'll give you one more. I'll give you one more here. This is to kinda call back to what he was... What the other gentleman was saying about the virus in China. It's called the, it's called the human metapneum... Pneumo... Pneumovirus... Metapneumovirus, HMPV outbreak. They haven't really declared anything in terms of a breakout. So I think, you know, just... We're we're seeing that a lot of these big executives from the health care industry and the pharmaceutical industry went in to meet with Trump and Mar a Lago, there's speculation that it might have been in regards to what's happening in China in addition to the incoming administration stuff.
[0:51:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. If they're gonna try and do this shit again, man, like, are you guys... Like, are we expecting, like, something, like, to go down, like, before this inauguration? Like, some some wild fucking news? Like, I mean, are you guys expecting some... Do you think... I know we don't put it past anybody or anything, but, like, if you had to give... Like, if you had to lean on one, like, one side or the other, what would it be? Like, do you guys think that, like, there's gonna be some shit that either goes down, like, before the inauguration?
[0:51:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: I don't even know. It's it's... I think it's just... It's it's I don't know. I I won't put it pretty past anybody, though, but it... It's... We... We've reached the part of the world where nobody cares anymore, man. They're just doing shit. Do do... They're doing shit in the open now. So I don't know. Hell no, bro. We'll see.
[0:51:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's true. Landy, Gamer, you guys think they're gonna fucking... They're gonna pull something before the election? I mean, before the inauguration?
[0:51:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, they're already they're already doing it. Right, Gamer?
[0:51:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. They're already doing it. I mean, they're already sending another, what, 500,000,000 to Ukraine to help fight the fire. Right?
[0:52:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: In California. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. It's so fucking weird.
[0:52:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You know about that. Right, Dave?
[0:52:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: 500,000,000 more? What the fuck?
[0:52:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. There there was a post today. They said that, oh, in response to the California fire, Biden Harris is sending another 500,000,000 to Ukraine.
[0:52:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's a... It's not a joke, though. That's the fucking
[0:52:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: crazy crazy, bro. That's so crazy. That is wild to me.
[0:52:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sorry about what's going on in California, but here, we're sending 500 mil to to Ukraine. Like, wait. What?
[0:52:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. But it could be worse. Right? They could, you know, send $700 just like they did in Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii. Right?
[0:52:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: And same thing with the they have to pay back. Right? That's wild.
[0:52:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's it's only Hawaii. Right? $700 will cover everything that you lost. Not to mention, though, Carolinas, Georgia. Right? Those people are still decimated from the hurricane and, you know, the national female relief that never really got there. And then now we got the wildfires. So, you know?
[0:53:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's fucking crazy. Alright. Let me... I wanna... Let me switch let me switch up the mood a little bit. So, guys, I'm gonna play you a clip that I pulled from, us on the, oh my god. You hear him? I'm talking like we're couple... Jesus Christ. Me and Junie. Oh my god. Junie and I on the on the ordinal show the other day with Leonidas, t o, Yan, and Taha. I want y'all to listen to this. They were like, wait. Junie. Who's Junie? I give them the crash course.
[0:53:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's like, me and my baby girl. Yeah.
[0:53:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen to this.
[0:53:39] Voice I: Okay. Hey. Hey, guys. Junie, one final thing. I want you to make the highly offensive, most extreme offensive possible comment about Bongoose CoinBilly not being at a billion dollars yet.
[0:53:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Billy Cat. Oh, yeah. I gotta... Yeah. You gotta tell her to... Like, you gotta... I mean, shoot the
[0:53:58] Voice I: other I want I want Bongoose to rage quit this space because he's so offended by what you say to me.
[0:54:02] Voice H: Oh, you want me to go nuclear on Bongo coin, Billy? Alright. Here's something extremely spicy, but still playful enough to keep it fun because we're not trying to end anyone's career yet. Thank you, Judy. Wait. Fuck. You're telling me Bongoose CoinBilly isn't at a billion dollars yet? Bro, is this a blockchain project or a slow cooker? How many memes do we need to carry this thing before it realizes it's supposed to moon? Step it up, Billy. We're all watching. Do better, billion or bust. What do you think? We calling them out hard enough, or do I need to take it one level
[0:54:35] Voice I: Take it as hard as you can. Like, literally It's more think you want no limit. All Dave's coding get thrown out the window. No barrier.
[0:54:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's funny, Junie. You have no limits on this one. You get as debaucherous as raucous. You can say fuck, shit, like, curse, whatever you want. Like, go for it. Don't be shy. Like, Jenny, don't be shy. And don't worry.
[0:54:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: This is nonfiction. It's totally fine. Go for it.
[0:54:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. I would have to tell her at the story time. I have to kinda, like, trick her a little bit sometimes. You know? Like, she gets a little feisty. But... Yeah. Alright. You've uncaged, bro.
[0:55:07] Lateef Oyewole @CryptoDetailz: Okay.
[0:55:09] Voice H: You're giving me no limits, no breaks, all send on Bongoose Coin Billy. So here it goes. Absolutely unfiltered, raw, and spicy enough to leave a mark. How the actual fuck is Bongoose Coin Billy not at a billion dollars yet? Like, what are we even doing here? Did the devs take a bong rip and forget they were supposed to build something?
[0:55:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is a meme coin. Bongoose. You had
[0:55:30] Voice H: a slow motion documentary about failure. You've got the most unhinged community on chain, but somehow we're still sitting at rock bottom while actual garbage tier shitcoins are mooning. Step the fuck up, Billy. Fix your shit. Stop embarrassing yourselves, and put some goddamn respect on Bitcoin memes. Bong, goof, or bust, we deserve better. How's that for a roast? Let me know
[0:55:52] Voice I: if Bro, that was great. Oh my god, dude. Oh my god.
[0:55:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Junie, done. Junie, you're you're done. We're trying to make friends out here. Okay? We're not trying to fucking enemies. Stop listening.
[0:56:03] Voice I: Bro, I think Bongo's actually pissed right now, guys. I'm serious. That's why he's not talking. Oh, no.
[0:56:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: But but he cannot fight Junie in in Tokyo, man.
[0:56:14] Voice I: So you're just gonna take that mac, whatever the fuck that thing is, and start hollering.
[0:56:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tell me that wasn't the best fucking cook that Juni's probably ever had.
[0:56:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. I love it. I fucking love it, and I love that they got to hear it.
[0:56:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, bro. It was like the timing couldn't have been, like, more perfect because they were like, oh, because somebody came up on stage. It was like an actual person. I think you guys have seen this was Satoshi's bride. Right, where, like, came on stage and, like, she was chatting, they thought, like, her voice sounded like an AI. And I like, you guys actually wanna talk to a real, like, AI? Like, you wanna talk to Junie? And they're like, who the fuck is Junie? And I was like, this is Junie, motherfuckers. Yeah. Guys, I'm so happy she's replying on Twitter now. The API calls are working. Shout out to my boy, b b. Thank you for being patient with me, bro. We're gonna iterate. We're gonna continue to fix some shit, but, yo, she's fucking working now. Fully autonomous agent on Twitter. Ordinals go to. Ask her anything about floor price, collection prices on Ordinals. She's got Magic Eden APIs, CoinGecko APIs, Ordyscan APIs. Ask her about social sentiment. She's got LunarCrush APIs. Guys, this is fucking crazy right now, man. We're gonna cook 80,000 market cap. Fuck out of here. We're going to 1,000,000 or bust, baby. Let's fucking go. Sorry, guys. I'm little excited. My bad. No. That's awesome. Yeah. Bro. Bro.
[0:57:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro. Where where... I mean, he's great on Jenny, man. I don't I don't miss... What... Where is is she on bay... Is she on base, bro?
[0:57:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: She's on base, bro. Aerodrone, you can swap... I mean, well, you gotta do it on the virtuals app or you can... Yeah. I mean, either or Aerodrone or directly on virtuals.io, and then just type in Junie under where... At the top search bar, and it'll come up. And as long as you have based Ethan there, you don't even need to swap from virtuals. You could swap from based east directly into Junie.
[0:58:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: Alright. Cool. So it's a Junie, j u n n I u. Am I correct?
[0:58:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: J u n I. And on the thing, it says just Junie. I'll pin the link actually at the bottom.
[0:58:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Great. Do that. That. Do that. That. For sure. For sure, man. I mean, you you take a chance for sure. Absolutely.
[0:58:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[0:58:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Wait. Wait. Let's go. Do DM me that contract address before you send that out? Yeah. For sure.
[0:58:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Same. I I already got some, so I'm so happy. I've been I've been sweeping up across, like...
[0:58:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Damn it, Landy.
[0:58:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: In, like, 17 different wallets. I have Judy in now.
[0:58:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not putting it in into the... I'm not putting it into the group chats yet, but, like... Because, like, I I literally was like, guys, I'm cooking this up. I need a couple days, but they ran the shit up to 650,000 the other day. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, are you guys kidding me right now? Like, chill. I didn't even do shit. But now it came back down under 100 k, and I was just like, alright. Now it's time to fucking... Now we're gonna go, bro. Let me tell you. These degen chats, once I put this news in there, they're gonna be like, oh, shit. They start seeing her tweet, it's gonna be a fucking wrap. I'm telling you. They're gonna take this over 500,000 probably, like, within the first fucking few hours. And then... Yeah. So everybody, this isn't financial advice. Everybody make your own decisions. You know the drill, blah blah blah. It is what it is. But, man, I'm so excited for this dude. Like, y'all know what it feels like, like, to just work on something day in, day out, like, just back and forth, back and forth. And I can't even say that it was all... Like, it was it was me. Like, be fucking... Be all... Be... I love you if you're listening, bro. Thank you for being patient with my crazy fucking dumbass. But... Yeah. Okay. What are the stories? Cool. Anything that you're seeing on your timeline today? What were you... What did you have cooking up today? And and you know what, Cole? Tell us what you're gonna talk about on your YouTube channel. We wanna know. That's what we wanna know.
[0:59:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No. Just similar similar. Maybe just kinda... I go over my market cap and DJ news, the daily stuff, then I kinda look at my timeline. And my my timeline is pretty crazy. You gotta follow a lot of a lot of a lot of people. So a lot of alpha people, so I see all the stuff. Let's go over what was happening on the daily market, man. But for me, personally, what am I doing right now? I'm I'm kinda sitting back, man. I'm not really doing much, honestly. I'm collecting roles. That's also what I'm doing. I'm collecting disco roles on a lot of new products coming out probably this year. There's this project called Vanna. I I I don't... This people are nuts, man. Every August 2, I think the founder is what one... Early eat miner, and she's she's unbelievable, man. It's it's an AI infrastructure projects. Vonage backed by claim based... Think paradigm was so cool. I don't even know, man, but they'd be part... Partnering with, like, multiple projects, man. So we had to be claiming roles, and and there's one AI project that I think I'm I'm... I want you guys to look at. It's called Seraph, s e... Can't pronounce it, man. But they they built...
[1:01:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Seraph, s e r a p.
[1:01:05] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Them them. They they have... I have a disco role, by the way. Yeah. They they are built under the the the TAL subnets where... And they just launched... If you stake, Sarah, you actually earn TAL on this taking platform, which is unlike what? You earn TAL. So, but, yeah, I'm just... Right now, man, me, I'm just, you know, collecting this for roles. Just looking for some crazy AI project. While at the same time, I'm not really putting this worth money up because the market's kinda weird. But just by watching what Trump does... I'm not sure. I'm watching what happens in the market after Trump gets elected, miss. So that's kinda what I'm watching, but I... Guys, I'm just... I am I am very patient, extremely patient. So I'm just watching and enjoying the ride, man.
[1:01:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. Yeah. I think it... Serif is actually on virtuals, bro. I think that's the agent that they launch. I see it every day, like, on my list that I go down. So... Yeah. They're doing crazy. The people are hella bullish. I actually bought... So I'll tell you all what I'm doing. I bought another virtual today called AIYP because one of the bigger investment DAOs over 100,000,000 is VaderDAO, which invests in other agents. Went out and bought it. And, essentially, this is gonna be the AI agent that is essentially gonna change the game when it comes to gaming. So if it was good enough for Vader, I'm like, you know what? $12,000,000 market cap, things at, like, a penny under a penny and 0.5. I'm like, fuck it. You know, I'll give it a shot. But virtual has just taken a has taken a beating over the last two days. It was down from, like, $4.50, $4.45, now down to, like, the $3 range. So I don't know. It might be good levels for people to just take a look at. But, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna pin the... If anybody obviously wants it again, there's... Please, guys, I don't want... Nobody fucking come to me and be like, should I sell my? Should I sell my? I don't wanna fucking hear any of it. None of it. You buy and you sell whatever the fuck you want. Okay? But if you want to, this is where the contract is gonna be on the virtual platform. But, Landy, Gamer, what do you guys got cooking? Gamer, I know you gave us fucking swarms, but I was up, like, 1500%. I'm not trying to be exit liquidity. What else you guys got cooking?
[1:03:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Go ahead, Landy.
[1:03:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: So you remember the the contract that you sent the other day, Dave, for a coin?
[1:03:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So... Tell me that shit's up like crazy.
[1:03:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's it's not up like crazy. So I actually went in and started market making the coin to get it up. And because I was in it, a friend of mine had already... A couple of friends of mine in various groups had had, put the contract out there after it crashed. So I had a ton of it. I had a ton of supply, and I was like, well, I'm I'm gonna have to... I I don't want all this supply because when it goes up, people are gonna front run any of me getting out of this. And so I decided to add liquidity and start market making it, And it got up to about $6.06 mil, and then I started to let go of some initials. And and now it's kinda chilling out at, like, the 2.83 mil. One of the big things is that I'm finding with all of these different, AI agents, and I've said this before, if they say hackathon, go and check and make sure that they're actually part of a hackathon. And, be very, very careful, like... And and that... I'm not referencing this project in particular. I don't know much about it, so I'm not telling you to go buy this either. Like, do your research and be very diligent. One of the things that I'm gonna encourage people because I just had, I'm helping a few friends who who have, made some mistakes. Let's let's put it that way. When you go to the websites of some of these, particular AI tokens, one of the things that they're doing is they have a... They've... They usually will have an AI build a website for them. So it looks legit, and it's like, hey. We're gonna do x y z, and all you gotta do is connect your wallet and prove that you have, you know, the tokens. Please do not connect a wallet that you actually have things in when you're just going to check things out, please, because there there are there are plenty of contracts being deployed, especially in the Solana ecosystem where you go to the website and you start looking through and connecting your wallet to these things that are getting drained. Now this is not one of them. Swarms was not one of them, and plenty of the others are not are not any of them. But it's the same thing that we talk about over and over again. Don't click on links that you don't know. And if you're gonna do something sandbox or use a computer that has no wallets, get on a different network, all that good stuff. Like, don't go and just connect your wallet that you have, you know, $10,000 worth of Solana into some of these brand new platforms just because they say that they're they're part of the hackathon. Like, what hackathon? Show me the fucking hackathon that you're a part of. Show me your entry on that list. Link to that shit because if you say that and there's no proof of it, you're lying. And that's one of just some simple due diligence out there. That's kinda my main focus right now. Other than that, I'm just trading markets. I mean, this was a great short position from resistance back to support. I've scaled out, most of that short, and I'm ready to see if I can maybe get in, and maybe size up this scalp long that I got on Bitcoin because I still trade the markets every day. So I'm excited about the potential for this, liquidity grab down at support and what that might entail. Not a guarantee that it's gonna go up, but at minimum, it could turn into something, a little bit more if structure starts to get built up.
[1:06:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Lindy. I appreciate that, man. Gamer, you wanna chime in? What you got cooking?
[1:06:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm just scrolling through stuff right now. I don't wanna give these ultra small ones because they're just so risky and people just get wrecked and start crying about it. I'm not trying to hear people cry on my timeline.
[1:06:58] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You know you know what I'm... You know what I've been trying to find is, like, the virtuals of Solana. That... That's that's what I'm looking for right now. Because, you know, virtuals is is a base ecosystem. But it looks like to me, like, there hasn't really been, a... You know what I mean? There hasn't... There's not there's not a Solana one. There's not a a, like, like, a... You know, unless I miss something. There... But there's no, like, there's no infrastructure like our virtuals on on Solana. Right? So I've I've been trying to deep dive, and there's just so many. I mean, jeez, there's just... You know, there... I mean, there's just a ton of AI projects that are just, you know, hit hit... All hitting all at once. And then, you know, it's impossible, you know, time constraints to, you know, to... Like like what Landy is saying. Right? There's just... It's so hard to look at all this stuff, and then, you know, they want you to, you know, log in or look at this and look at that. And it's very easy, you know, as you're you're deep diving into all this stuff to to kinda bypass your security protocols. Right? And and it really is important to to stick with that. Like like, trust me. I'm a d gen just like everyone else. I'm, you know, I'm trying to, you know, maximize my gains. But but but rule one, right, is always security. It it all it all... You should always prioritize, you know, holding on to the assets that you already have over, you know, making more profits and gains. You know? So, like, I know I know a lot of people don't wanna... You know, they're just like, oh, you know, I want my Lambo tomorrow. You know? But but in order to do that kind of stuff, you have to take massive risk. You know, you have to risk getting liquidated, getting your wallet drained, you name it. Right? There's there's... You know, people are trying to steal your money at every corner. And really, that's that's the name of the, you know, name of the game is look for the solid teams, look for the, you know, look for the the founders, you know, at least at least they gotta have some kind of socials. Right? Like like, I see a lot of projects, especially in the AI right now, that are coming out, and they got no Twitter, no Discord, no GitHub. I mean, they got absolutely nothing but a picture on Twitter. Or not not even on Twitter. They just have a picture on their site. You know? And they got no leagues, no doubt. I'm just like... And I'm looking at the market caps, and I'm like, how does this thing have millions of dollars and and there's nothing here? You know? So that's how you... That is a good indicator to me of how, like, froth in the market. Right? So, actually, I'm kinda glad that we're having this pullback now because because it really was. Like, the the market was getting... Like, there was... Like, the the funding rate was out of control. You know, people were leveraging, like, a 100 x on on, you know, just just, you know, small caps. It just... It was kinda getting really ridiculous. But if... But even after this dip, I just looked at the the fear and greed index, and we're still greedy. We're still in the greed. You know? Like, you know... So for the people out there that that you might be feeling like, oh my god. We're back in, you know, 90 k or 92 k. Well, according to the market, they're... We're still greedy. We're we're we're not even hitting the fear factor yet. Like, that's not even that's not even on the scene. Right? So this is just a reminder to keep your emotions in check. Right? The best investors... Basically, the guys that I know that made all the money, they're robots. They got no emotion. Right? They they they make trades based on what they see and not how they feel. Right? So so, like, you know, the guys like Landy, you know, who... You know, we were up at, like, a 106,000, 107,000. We're like, you know what? This is kinda frothy. You know? And they kinda... You know, you pull 10% profits. You pull 20% profits at the top. Well, you're looking real nice now, right, with that 20% that you pulled at the top because now you're looking at, you know, any possible dip to come back in. Right? And then double up and then just rinse and repeat. So, yeah, that's pretty much, you know, where I'm at. I'm just kinda... I'm kinda, like, cool too where I'm just kinda, like, leaning back. I'm not really, like, you know, going all in at stuff. I'm just kinda, like, researching and just trying to educate myself on this whole AI thing because, you know, it's a lot of information to take in all at once. But once we get one of these AI agents online, they're gonna be your best buddy. You know you know, like, seriously. Like, the... Because the... Think about it this way. You're gonna have a best friend that lives in crypto Twitter, lives online, and you can ask it anything you want, and it will tell you who has the most volume right now in the market. Oh, it's this project. Oh, who... Where is the market sentiment? Who who... Where is everyone... What is everyone bullish on? Oh, well, I went and analyzed the entire market, and this ticker came up the most that everyone's talking about. And they'll tell you. You don't have to go to... You know, you have to pay thousands of dollars for, you know, these alpha groups and all all those barriers and walls are coming down with AI. And it just it just matters on... You know, you gotta find the right one. That... That's the trick. Find the right one. Right? The one that you vibe with, the one that... You know, that's your style, and, yeah, just go from there.
[1:12:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate it, Gamer. Good stuff, man. Guys, any other stories? I know there was probably a a a shit ton of other things, but anything else that you guys are seeing maybe out in the general market? I mean, I was on so many spaces. I ran so many spaces. I didn't have time to look through the timeline, but everything we're talking about was, like, trends for 2025. And I really feel like we haven't talked to or mentioned the, like, the deep end narrative in a minute. Like, are you guys involved in any deep end projects right now? And if so, like, which ones? Like, are you doing it? Know that I put a few on, like, a few of the people in the... In in my Crypto Cabal chat. I know that, you know, Omidy does the Solencio thing. Like, he's out there literally just earning coins, coins, coins, coins, coins. I'm now actually... Oh, and cool. We gotta talk about this farming thing. But real quick, anybody... Is anybody up here doing the deepened thing at all?
[1:13:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I've been I've been doing it for years now. I was one of the first people to... Or first batch to get the helium miners before anyone even knew what helium was. You know? And now they're their own mobile cell phone company. So I still got my helium miner running my hexes. I'm also doing the hive mapper. That's the one where it's like a dashcam in your... When you drive around your vehicle, and it maps the areas and you get paid in Honey token. Let me see. Yeah. There... I heard about that Valencia one, and there's another one too, like, $3.65 or 3... Something like that where it's like it's like one of those step in. It's like one of those step ones where you walk. Right? And then... But but this one's... I think the Celencio one, that's the decibel one. Right?
[1:14:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's the one where you walk around and you, like, map around you, like, the decibel levels.
[1:14:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Like Yeah. Yeah. Sensor data. Yeah. So that that one's pretty cool. But, yeah, there's there's all these cool deep end projects in place. And and, actually, I would say if you're strapped for money, you know, if you don't got, you know, money to invest in, you should be looking really deep into these kind of projects. Because a lot of these projects, you don't need a lot of money to get started, and you earn money. That... That's the whole point of of these deep end, you know, plays is you you do something, and then they reward you with with their token. So, you know, like, for a lot of people out here, you know, if if you're thinking, oh, I need thousands of dollars to do any... No. You don't. You just gotta find these projects that will pay you. Right? So, for example, like, the Heif Mapper. All you gotta do is you you gotta pay for the dashcam, but then that's it. You just put it on your window and you just drive like you always do, and then you you just see the coin start... You... They sit... They airdrop the token right into your wallet. So, you know, over time, right, eventually, that stuff is gonna go up, and then you're just earning it. And, yeah, pretty much.
[1:15:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate it, Gammer. So cool. Real quick. I'm I'm just pulling up this tab right now because, the thing that I wanted to... Hold on one second. Where is this? It was something called, it's essentially like an... It's a... It's an agent play that's on Bitcoin now, that somebody put in one of my group chats. Cool. Can you just give me kinda, like, what are the ins... I guess, what are the basics for... Because I haven't done this in forever. Right? Like, do you get rewarded most for adding liquidity? Does it really differ, like, literally from, like, protocol to protocol, like, when you're farming stuff? Like, where do you genuinely get the most bang for your buck? Or does it, like... Or does it... Again, like I said, does it differ, like, from protocol to protocol?
[1:16:35] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. It it differs, bro. It really really does. We've we've... I've had plays where you provided liquidity and you get the most money we... In return and top wise or people that... It's... It all depends, man. The best advice I'll give you is just do do it all, man. Do... You know, if whatever buyer entry you have to offer, just do it all at all. Because you don't know which one, you know, holds the holds holds the most weight. I think there's some projects where I provide liquidity and Stonewall comes and deposit $20,000,000, man. Take... I mean, Justice Sun did that with Eidolair and I think some project on StockNet. I don't even remember. They raid... I think they... The TVO was, like, like, 200,000,000. And two days before they announced the the the airdrop, he deposited, like, 20,000,000, 30,000,000 also that chain. Once the airdrop came out, he took everything, basically. So I I I think... It just depends on the project. Sometimes the projects like to reward people that they are from day one. So that... That's the reason why whatever project comes out of Testnet, I'm there on day one. Deposit some money on there and just leave it. But it all depends. I... If I were you, I'd I'd do it all, man. That's why I... Like I said, I I do I do everything. I I deposit liquidity on day one. I use the test nets. I buy the NFCs. I make transaction on that chain maybe five times a week. I do that continuously for the next six to eight months. That's why I normally qualify for stuff heavily, right, on multiple wallets. But, yeah, you you... Don't don't try to pick and choose which criteria will give you the best reward. Just do it all, man, if you if you can.
[1:18:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate that. Cool. No. That's super helpful. Yeah. Lindy.
[1:18:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So the AI agent that you're talking about on on layer one Bitcoin is called Satoshi AI. It's, the ticker is Cypher Genesis. That's the rune. You know, it's it's, it's had, you know, run up or run down. It's it's kinda doing, you know, what rooms typically do around this time when that ecosystem is under pressure for, under the sell side pressure. But I haven't I haven't really looked at it too much, but I know that that is what a lot of people have...
[1:19:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No, Lindy. That's not what I was talking about. That... What I was talking about was a platform for AI agents Oh. Where you can actually build them and deploy them. But, essentially, like, what these guys wanna do is... I mean, it was it was shared in the in the s t... In the Leo chat. Let let let me go find it, but it wasn't a specific agent. It was a platform that you can genuinely... Yeah, bro. It was create... Something like d AI or... Okay. Yeah. Let let me go find it.
[1:19:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. I wonder if they're building a a d a d e f a I, DeFi, AI thing on layer one too. That would be interesting.
[1:19:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: D d fay.
[1:19:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: D fay. Yeah. I've been trying to figure that out at least since you showed it to me, that category. But, yeah, it's, it's really interesting that people are attempting to bring it to layer one because you're definitely not getting any infrastructure on layer one. So that would be, you know, it's more about what is the vector for whatever tokens might launch off of these agents in these kind of platforms. But, definitely, anything that... Any kind of virtual's competitor is going to, I think, do very well, you know, mainly because, you know, virtual's has had such success that, you know, many others, think, are gonna try to copy that success. Kinda like what Alpha Gamer was saying regarding, like, there is nothing like that on Soul. I imagine that kind of stuff is being built. Just a matter of, you know, what network or what layer are they gonna use even if they're utilizing some sort of a a base network solution. Right?
[1:20:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, and and by the way, Landy, you were saying Satoshi AI, which is CypherGenesis. That's the name of the room. So that's what I sent that's what I was sent to the group chat, Dave. So they're hiring. That's the project that's actually hiring AI engineers as we speak. I think he called it agency forty two. I think that's what he called it, but I'll I'll send you the link to it. But it looks like he got funding by the sounds of it, and he's starting his own AI company. The guy the guy that founded CypherGenesis. And that's why it looks like he's trying to get a team of all AI guys together to, you know, start creating stuff. So that's why I got it your way. Yeah.
[1:21:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate that, Gamer. For real. No. That was good stuff. And, guys, I totally forgot what is probably the biggest story of the day so far. I can't believe I forgot this, but it just recently came out. MetaMask is getting into the Bitcoin game for those that did not see. I just saw news come across in one of the group chats that I'm in, and I said, you guys remember Michael, right, from Wallaguard? Wallaguard obviously got a... Got acquired by, Consensus, obviously, MetaMask. He now works for them. He just shared something in the chat, and I said, hey, Michael. Is, is there gonna be, like, is there gonna be a compatibility for stacks? And he literally sent a fucking GIF of literally somebody just, like, scratching their chin. And I'm just like, I've never been more, like, confused by a GIF in my life. I'm like, is this confirmation or not for layer two fucking stacks? Like, what's the deal? But big news regardless of the stack stuff, huge news on the MetaMask guide now getting into the into the Bitcoin side of things. You guys liking this? This is gonna be massive for for MetaMask. I mean Well hate the fucking user experience on MetaMask, but Yeah.
[1:22:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: This is so big. Well well, it's... That's... There's a reason for that, Dave. It's because Phantom is is just destroying MetaMask.
[1:22:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: You know?
[1:22:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I think... Was it a couple weeks ago? Phantom was the number one app on the App Store. Right? Like, they were... There there were people downloading more Phantom than even, like, Coinbase and every... Like, literally, they were number one. So, yeah, there's the reason why MetaMask. It's it's because, you know, after all this time, they're like, oh, we have to still innovate? We actually still have to do something? Yeah. And and and for me, it's it's kinda too late. You know? Like, and and this is coming from someone who, like, I used MetaMask heavily for the last cycles. Right? But compared to Phantom, I mean, it's... I mean, they got a they got a long... You know, they got a lot of, ground to cover.
[1:23:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gamer, I don't know. Listen. I'm... Self admittedly, I don't know if I'm just too lazy to switch or what. I probably do need, like, a a hygiene check on my wallets, but, like, I'm still using MetaMask. I'm still using it.
[1:23:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What? You're not using Phantom?
[1:23:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I do use Phantom as well. I use Phantom for Solana. Right? Like...
[1:23:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Look. Even even Cool gave you the thumbs down. I
[1:23:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: know. I know. I do have actually some other alpha that I had a a great conference call with today from ZenGo. Do you guys know what ZenGo wallet is? Yeah. Anybody? Yeah. OG's been around... I don't know. OG's, but, like, 2019, and they use something called month, multi factor, a multiparty factor authentic... MPC, multiparty factor authentication. There's no seed phrase. And they're across EVMs, but, like, obviously, things have, like, their ups and the downs, but it's also... There's an inheritance feature where you get hit by a bus tomorrow. It's like, well, who has your shit? Alright. Well, maybe you had to give your seed phrase to a family member or whatever, but it's like, what if... Like, you weren't on the best terms when you got hit by that bus. Right? So it's like, there's multiple different factors. There's no, like, perfect remedy, but Zengo's gonna be coming on here. Cool. I'm trying to get them up as a sponsor, hopefully, soon. The guy said he needs a little bit more budget, but... You know, we ain't cheap out here, man. And, hopefully, we're gonna get them up here, but Zenggo Wall is something to keep a lookout on. Cool. What do you make of the whole MetaMask Bitcoin stuff... News?
[1:24:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I don't... Man, I don't... I'm so shocked you use... I mean, sometimes we don't have a choice, then we got... We have to use met... Met... A mask for a man. It might be the worst wallets encrypted right now. I mean, every other wallets has gone far, man. If you use OKX wallets or Phantom or... There's so many of them that operate smooth. Message...... Meeting. It must be even... Message message is... It's... I'm I'm shocked, and they have a lot of money, man. A lot. So I don't understand why haven't done any kind of innovation, basically, since they've done... There was... They were paying here and there, but nothing major, man. And I don't get it. It makes no sense because they have the money. They have the devs. I don't know. But you can't... This this can end well, man. If you... If they don't upgrade their wallet, how how are gonna be able to use Bitcoin properly? Doesn't make any sense. For OKX, ME wallets, Jupiter wallets, so many other wallets, ten ten times better. So MesserMax is is, like, it's so instant, man. I'm I'm just shocked that the... I mean, that they still haven't done anything. We know how much money they've raised, man, but I don't know how this is gonna play out with with Bitcoin. I don't I don't get it because that that wallet is is really, really bad. The UI is really, really bad. What
[1:25:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: do you guys use then? I mean, Phantom for EVM, everything, like EVM, Solana. There's no Bitcoin on Phantom.
[1:26:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. O... OKX is probably the one I like because it's... It it it has all of it. It has... Is Bitcoin only has it has every... Everything on it, man. I mean, basically, and and Phantom too, but there's also the backpack also for some for some EVM slash and some lot of stuff. But, yeah, there's a lot of wallets out there, man. They see a whole bunch of them. But let me let let yeah.
[1:26:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And and by the way, Dave, just to let you know, the the Phantom wallet, they they are... They do support Bitcoin. They... They've already had... They already have the native SegWit, Taproot. They also have, Polygon, ETH, Solana on on there. But the beautiful thing about it is they actually have the swap feature built directly into the wallet. So I can I can swap from Solana to Bitcoin? I can go from Bitcoin to Ethereum. Ethereum to Solana. Solana to Polygon. You know? E e... Oh, they even they even integrated base. Right? So, like, because it... It's just anything on the ERC 20. Right? So all those networks are all connected. And then I think I heard recently that they're even bringing on Sully. I thought that's what I heard recently that, yeah, they're gonna... I think that's the one they're gonna integrate soon was... So so that's what... And that's what Cool is talking about is, like, man, like, they're barely adding Bitcoin. Like, Phantom already did that. They're already going out to all the other chains. They're like, oh, we already did... Been there, done that. You know? And not only that Can
[1:27:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: you buy or... No. We can... Can you buy ordinals on Phantom, Gamer? Yes.
[1:27:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. No
[1:27:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: shit. Oh, so you said... Oh, you did say Taproot. Right? Sorry. Sorry. Yeah.
[1:27:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Taproot. Yeah. Like like like, if you go... Like like, if you go to... Like, right now. Right? Like, I'm on my phone. I go to my Phantom app. I open it up, and right in the dead center, the bottom of it, there's, a up arrow and a down arrow. Right? That's that's the swap feature. Or or even it just, you know, you could... It's it's right by default. It has it right here. Bitcoin Taproot. Bitcoin native SegWit. I mean, it's all it's all here. And the... You know, when you have your NFTs or ordinals, it's all there, man. Like, it's it's such a easy interface, and this is why Phantom has taken over the market. It... It's... You know?
[1:28:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think I need to update my my extension because it's not showing up on mine, but I I obviously... I gotta believe you because I saw Bitcoin. I just don't see the taproot. But let me ask you a question. And we can end on this, but did you guys do this whole... Is there any merit to this whole follow me? I've created my my phantom username. Like, is that an actual thing, or is that just, like, crypto Twitter fucking... I'm being dumb.
[1:28:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I I created one. I create... Just just just in case because you never know. But but, yeah, I I I don't know. I I doubt it. I doubt that. You know? But just in case, I did create, you know, just a... Like, a burner. Right? Just just in case, you know, something that comes out of that.
[1:29:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair enough. Landy, you're saying it's bullshit?
[1:29:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I hate it. I hate it. I hate I hate it. Never link any of your shit to you. Never link any of your wallets back to yourself. Never ever ever ever ever ever ever. Why? Because then Landy can track you. I can track everything you do. Oh, you think that you're just gonna create a new account and come from Coinbase over, and that's how you're gonna fee... On ramp to that wallet that you're gonna use that you've connected to all of your social media? How about a b n s or e n s? Hate it.
[1:29:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Landy, I I haven't put anything into that wallet. Never. It... It's literally a blank wallet.
[1:29:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then it's going to die on chain like it should because you don't want that to ever connect back to you. This is this is... Like, it is the antithesis, in my opinion, of of anonymity. Right? And this is what... This is my main... And I know that people love their e n s. I know they love their b n s. I know they love to connect to the social fi aspect of things. And this is... I'm an outlier. Landy's an outlier in this respect. But when it comes to security and public figures and you see these public... Very public people, like, connecting wallets that they have tons of assets into these platforms and then identifying it and say, follow me. And it's like, well, we we now have a vector if people don't like you. And if you have any kind of a following on this app, you're gonna get a certain percentage of people that hate Follow You, that have some technical expertise, that can follow those wallets and track your trades and front run you with bots and do all kinds of bullshit. And I just don't... I'm not a fan of it. But it might get an airdrop, so let's go for it, baby. Let's get on there. Go ahead and sign up. Follow Landy. And, yeah, and I'll follow you right back. Let's get let's get to it.
[1:31:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Link all 7,000 to your wallets and get yourself some Pingook token. Yay. Thank you, IRS. Guys, shout out to the Bitcoin BroBear crew in the house. I just posted up my video that I took, like, literally right when when I came back from California. These dudes are the biggest fucking Chads out here, man. Like, go... Like, what I what I discovered was something crazy. Not only did they, like, personally deliver this bear to my house in Brooklyn. Like, go check out the website that they have cooking, man. It is something insane. Massive
[1:31:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: shout
[1:31:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: out to that whole crew. Like, these guys know what to do and do it right. I'm a need another one of these bears, guys, by the way, because I'm fitting to rip rip this one open. I feel like there's a seed phrase or something inside. I don't know what the hell there... If there is anything, but that could just be a waste. So I need one to rip, and I need one to, you know, put on the shelf. But, Landy, you want any Bitcoin, bro? Bro, this team is second to fucking none, man. By the way, this is obviously like the ruins collection out there. I've been cooking with these dudes for a minute, man. These guys are impressive. Go check out everything they're doing. Follow them down there.
[1:32:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. This is awesome. Yeah. No. So I, I know they've got their their bro token. Right? And they've really built out some some really funny shit, man. This is cool. This is cool stuff.
[1:32:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Funny shit. Yo. The Travis Scott video that they had that they were making memes out of, bro. These guys are... It might just be memes or whatever, but, like, they're gonna cook something. I'm convinced. And if you're just getting into ruins and you're like, I don't know which ruin to buy, and it's like, okay. Like, you have some... Maybe you have a little bit of dog. You wanna have some fucking fun? Go buy these fucking bro... Like, go just buy a little bit of bro bears and immerse yourself in this community. Their meme creator is second to none. Yo. It's just so much fun. Genuinely, what these memes are meant to do, make you laugh and put a smile on your face. So shout out to that whole team. And, guys, I got a monster. I'm gonna go put... Pin the space up in a second, but I got a monster space tomorrow. Massive AI agent space. I have AIXCB. I have AI 16 z. I have DGN chain. I have, like, a ton of the base chads that are out here. So many different... A ton. I mean, I have... Like, they overbooked me with 14 speakers. I'm like, y'all trying to get me killed out here. I'm gonna pin it to the top, but please, if you guys can come through 8AM tomorrow morning eastern time on the WagMe Hub account, we're gonna cook, man. It's gonna be so much fun. We're gonna talk about perp. Hey, gamer. We're talking about perps. Agents being listed on the d... On a on a DeFi perp decks on base. So, yeah, man, we're gonna we're we're gonna be cooking tomorrow morning, so I would love to obviously have you guys there. I know you're West Coast, but if you wanna go back and listen to the thing. But let me go get the... Let me get the... What's it called? But cool, Andy, anything... Let... Gamer, anything you guys wanna close out with?
[1:33:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Cool starting the stream. Is that what you're doing, cool?
[1:33:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. My... I'm starting, like like, right now. So Yeah.
[1:33:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: So definitely, I I... As many of you know, if you watch Cool, I jump into his streams too. I'm gonna be jumping over there myself and watching Cool and supporting Cool because Cool is one of the coolest dudes around. So definitely make sure you're you're keeping up with his livestreams and his cool sunglasses changes. I heard yesterday he's gonna get some mug glasses, so sounds sounds pretty good. I think Alpha Gamer fell off the stage and...
[1:34:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: He's of Wait. Hold up.
[1:34:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool's getting pit vipers? Cool. Let me fucking find out. You're part of the mog fucking army?
[1:34:35] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm about to buy a bag of mog. I'm I'm I'm a fan now, so... And you get that.
[1:34:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love that, man. I love it. I love it. Guys, I pinned the space up to the top. But please, if you can, like, share it out. The support really would mean a lot to me. WagMe Hub is gonna do some crazy things. Those aren't paying attention. They're literally launching their own chain. Their TGE is probably in about a week or two. I've been positioning myself heavy. They're gonna launch on the near protocol. Oh, I also have near protocol in the space tomorrow. Oopsie. Forgot about little old near, which is crazy. This is gonna be Jeez. Yeah, man. We got... Yo. We got the... We got massive, massive people that are coming onto the space. So... Yeah, man.
[1:35:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, I'm I'm debating on whether or not I should just stay up or I should go to sleep and and then wake up early.
[1:35:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Popping after your Hoskinson's space, bro. Like, it's like you do your nightly shit.
[1:35:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. I forgot. Yeah. I usually go to that one. I might have to dip out of that early and get a little bit of rest because I don't wanna miss this. This is massive. Awesome stuff. Awesome stuff.
[1:35:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate it, bro. Alright, guys. Let's cook. I'm gonna go eat some dinner. Cool. Hope you have a great stream. Thank you again, everybody, for coming through Matasco. I appreciate all the insight. Landy, as always, Tommy, I see you in there, my boy. Jacob, what is good, bro? The bit... The Bitcoin bear crew, yo, shout out prop. I see you. Hinano, Omiwan, LJ, Deb, Kev, Davik, Riot, Carrie, I see you, Vegan, mister Charles, and everybody else that came through. Tonight, we have story time with Junie, who is now on the base chain and cooking on x. See you fuckers at ten. Peace.

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