The space opened with a lively discussion on the surprise $VVV (Venice AI) airdrop and Coinbase listing, highlighting how users can unknowingly qualify for airdrops through past on-chain activity and the importance of regularly checking wallets. Speakers emphasized staying active in ecosystems for future drops, the unusually short 45-day claim window, and staking strategies. Conversation shifted to Jupiter's major token burn, acquisition of Moonshot, and multichain expansion plans via JupeNet, alongside market reactions to expected Federal Reserve decisions. Broader topics included Trump administration executive orders, immigration enforcement, potential crypto media access to the White House press corps, and the implications of CZ's investment in SIGN for verified token distributions and digital identity. The episode closed with regulatory philosophy, education reform, business model fundamentals for blockchain projects, and plans for East Denver. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.
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# ATC: All Things Crypto $VVV is all the rage and $BTC is out its cage! | 2025-01-28 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1vOxwrXylLRJB | status: approved # Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed. [0:00:04] Voice I: Right now, you are not doing that. Damn, Christy. [0:00:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: D, phones are charged, baby. [0:00:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: What a space boy. Crazy. OBR, what up, baby? Coins. [0:00:46] MAR @MARx24x: What's good? [0:00:47] Voice I: Hold back. Won't hold back. There we go. [0:00:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm coming. Let's go, baby. [0:00:55] Voice I: It's about time I do it. It's about time I say this shit. Spend a lot of time on the way that is. Roll up the dozer then blaze that shit. Who gonna give you love in the same as this? A game, girl, I bring that shit. I know you want the same last name as him. Him being filler. He a solid young nigga. He been real ever since. I know you've been tense. I know we ain't had a conversation in a minute, but you know what they say if it ain't broken, no fix it. It's clearly not broken. It's just so unfinished. I feel like my new bitch was just your apprentice, [0:02:20] Voice I: So fly. Oh, why didn't you? Tell me get my shit together and think it through. [0:02:29] Voice J: A nigga just just sitting here not knowing what to do. [0:03:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Roast landing now for being late. Roast. Roast. Roast. [0:03:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Let's go. What's good, my peeps? I don't think I've ever seen the room this empty since we've probably started in episode one. Oh, hey. Every... I don't know if... Is that my phone that's just on lag or what? It takes forever to see some people. [0:03:35] Voice E: Alright. [0:03:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good. Good. Good. Good. Good to see everyone. Good to see you guys. Cool. What's up? I didn't I didn't mean any of that, like, lateness. That that was more to towards, bro. I would talk to [0:03:46] Voice I: No. [0:03:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: You're good, bro. You're good. I I set a reminder, man. I don't like kind of... I don't know. My brain... Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Happy to be here. As always, let's go. Very pretty show, man. Let's go. What's up, Landy? [0:03:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, that's your cue. Wee. [0:04:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up, brother? What's up, Dave? What's up, Cole? Glad to be here. Just finishing up a few things in the markets and then jumping on. So there's been a lot of spaces events today. Dave has been staying busy right up until the moment this space started, basically. Cool. Been seeing you around as well. And, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on, lot of interesting things going on market wide. So I'm curious to dive into what the topics are gonna be today. [0:04:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think the first topic that is the most pressing one and the most pressing news that I saw today was Trump figuring out... And the White House figuring out that $50,000,000 was on its way to Gaza for condoms. And, yeah, they put a stop to that. They were like, that is not an efficient use of taxpayer taxpayer funds. What in the hell is go... Like, this is like... It... This seems like common sense stuff. No? Like, our... If if we survive this long, can we genuinely imagine, like like, the the craziness that that was probably going on? And I know there was bigger crypto stories. I'm just obviously being funny, but, like, $50,000,000 for condoms in Gaza? How much the heck did it happen in Gaza? I mean, shit. That's crazy. [0:05:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're trying to prevent them from repopulating the world. [0:05:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's probably money laundering, man. I don't think it's... They're buying condoms $50,000,000 worth. I don't think... How many how many condoms does that buy, bro? [0:05:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: A lot. [0:05:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: 1,000,000,000 condoms. They don't have that many people in Afghanistan. It is... Was a way to wash money and put money in their pocket. [0:05:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You remember remember the dude in Singapore that got caught with, like, 20,000 condoms in his book bag? And they were like, Dave, you got caught in Singapore with all these... And I was like, no. That's not me. But, like, $50,000,000 in condoms. Like, you couldn't think of anything better. Like, you could've cut it up with, like, something that has a really, like, expensive fixed cost, like a fighter jet or something. You know what I mean? Like, you had to choose condoms. 50,000,000 in condoms. I don't know, man. I I just don't know. But, anyways, that's some wild shit. Okay, guys. So really quick. I just kinda wanna give everybody the rundown because I feel like people could be sitting on money and they don't even know it. Right? So you guys heard me in the space yesterday with this, Venice AI airdrop. Right? This VVV airdrop. It was the craziest thing. Like, the stars aligned for... Knock on wood. I'm not I'm not throwing it out there, but knock on wood. The stars aligned for me yesterday. You guys heard me bitching and crying, being like, they couldn't get my claim when it was $8. And then that shit went... The Coinbase listing happened. That thing ran to $22. All of a sudden, look at my wallet. I'm like, Sell $21.50 average sale on literally, like, 85% of my tokens. That was a cool 5 figure sum, which was the, like, the second highest, actually, now that I think about it, like, in 2021. But I say this to you not to obviously brag. I'm saying it to you because I literally told a bunch of other people, and I'm like, look. It's not just who used the AI. Like, it was also if you used other protocols. And cool. Maybe you can help better explain this because I know that in the AirDrop game, they always look for, like, partnerships. Right? Like, it's like if you use this protocol, but then you were using this platform with... That was using this protocol, like, we're gonna make you eligible for the airdrop as well too. Right? So I think... So VVV did the same thing, like, for Clanker. Right? So a ton of projects on base. Look how fast they got listed on Coinbase, guys. Like, the virtuals like, the virtuals community was fucking up in arms. They were going great. They were like, what the fuck? This is crazy because virtuals has not been listed on Coinbase yet. Legit. And this thing's out for less than twenty four hours, and it's like, here you go. We're rolling out the red carpet for you. So it's like, goddamn. And there's also some shadiness that went on with that. But cool. Can you shed some light on, like, people that genuinely don't know they're eligible for airdrops? But, like, they gotta go look it through their fucking wallets. [0:08:12] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. No. This helps all the time. You know, I think a lot of people leave money on the table and don't even realize they qualify for stuff. That's why it's always good. Just check it. Even even if even though you see the tweets online that say, you know, you know, they put out criteria, just go check it anyway, man, because you never know which projects you've used... You... You've used in the past, you know, which NFT you bought in the past, which swaps you've made, like, months or a year ago. So it's always a good idea to check it, but don't get your hopes high. I I didn't get the edge off. It was a big surprise, and a big goes to the people that did. I love these types of airdrop because it's not planned, man. And this surprise airdrop is the best one because you just... You check a wallet at holy shit. $34.05 k, 25 k just from nowhere. But, yeah, man, definitely check your wallet. Every time an edge out comes out, it doesn't hurt you as long as... Oh, of course, always make sure it's it's the right link from the official sites, you know, but but definitely, always check your wallet, man. [0:09:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm literally looking at the green candle from yesterday. Like, it... This... It literally saved me from myself, which I know we talk about this all the time. Like, I was literally the the poster child for this yesterday where I'm like, why can't I claim it like everything else? And literally $8.48, and then it is Coinbase listing announcement, $22.82. Like, are you kidding me? Like, that is a massive, massive money dip. I mean, that was the difference in making this thing, like... I mean, yo. I I was able to real... To do some really good stuff. Like, today was the best day ever, essentially, right, when you have a day like that. But... Yeah. Guys, go check your wallets, connect them. You can also connect your Google, like, your your Discord, and whatever else, and start using this AI. Like, for those that are paying $20 or $200 a month or whatever, like, start using Venice. Right? Like, get into the habit of actually using this because, look, nothing is gonna be foolproof, like, just like in crypto. Right? But it's a lot better than OpenAI is. Right? And you can choose between different models, and I think it's, like, $18 a month if you want, like, the pro pro pro plan. So give it a shot. Maybe they do a second airdrop. You never know. Cool. Do people do second airdrops often? [0:10:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh,. Is at number nine. They've done nine air jobs since they launched almost a year ago. Nine. Is at number seven or eight, I think. Seven or eight. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I always tell people all the time whenever you you use projects, don't just leave. For example, did a big one on the first one, but the second edge up was even bigger because what they did was they saw that, oh, people are family zero for, like, one year or two years. Once they got their airdrop, they sold and moved on. They now they now figured out, oh, okay. They now basically just waited until the hype was dead. If you made one or two transactions on late zero, you got an extra between 9 to 15, man. Just like that. Yeah. So I always recommend you if you get an edge off from one project, don't just leave. Stay in the ecosystem. Keep using it. If it's one or two swaps per week, that's all you need to do. And you qualify for a job two or three or four or five. [0:11:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is the claim period normally, like, forty five... Like, this one is literally for forty five days. I don't think I've ever seen a a claim period this small. Like, is this is this common? [0:11:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. That's not common. The the reason the reason why I did did this was short was because they've realized that a lot of people probably won't claim their token in forty, forty five days because the optimism airdrop they gave us... Or, originally, they gave us, like, a year. And even then, I think only, like, 60% of people claim their airdrops, man. So forty five days is very, very short. So I think they do... It's good. It's good. What what you wanna do is they could they could do maybe... Or the... On claim airdrops might be airdrops to the first people that that got rewarded the first time. Or if you just take a 100% of it, the 50% of this is something weird like that. But... Yeah. So, yeah, I think it's a good thing, man. Forty five days for claim. I love that because it it it it makes the people that are active active because some people just make swaps and move on. They have no idea. I've seen... I think with the the founder of Kane Warwick, he had he had this... He he he got the, layer zero on multiple wallets. He had no idea. So, like, three, four months four months after, he was like, oh, I qualify for, like, fifty sixty k, and he was gone, man. He can't claim it after that. So I like I like the the the claim for forty five days because because the real users always claim first. So... Yeah. [0:13:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. And I... This is my last airdrop question. So when... Actually, let let let me just move on because I'm actually thinking about it. Right? And I'm just saying to myself, like, if for forty five days, there's definitely gonna be more. Stake some of it. Right? Like, but what is... I I asked you that yesterday, but no worries, man. Landy, you wanna chime in on this... On the Venice story? I mean, as we're talking about it now... I mean, I might be the mush, but it's under, like... Now it's back under 1,000,000,000. It was literally hovering around 1,500,000,000 all day today. Did you make out good with this as well? [0:13:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So I ended up, trading it up to those highs. The airdrop came through. And because I I did really well in the trade, I just decided to take a portion of my profits, keep the tokens plus the airdrop, and then stake it. So it's... The release schedule for supply is 14,500,000 per year. So, like, that's a really good cadence, and it gives... You know, it... It's not a ton of supply side pressure, and there's still a lot that is reserved for staking right now. So I'm staking quite a lot, and, you know, it's actually an interesting way to do it. And I think that the way that they're gonna utilize the tokens with this particular project are I think this might set the standard for how to utilize tokens with AI because it's really smart in the way that they're handling it with the API access. And, I think that they're gonna have a nice sized treasury at the end of the day because they take the fiat side of things too, plus, obviously, the way that the split is for the staking, to kind of equalize, you know, that 50% number to kind of keep things humming along well is is a smart way to do it. For those that don't know, I I encourage you go read the FAQ if you're interested in the token or the platform or if you have a claim. It's actually a really good way to do things in my personal opinion, and it's given me some ideas for some of the projects that I'm advising. So I'm I'm... I think it's great. And, obviously, it's ripped off that deep deepseq stuff. Right? Like, oh, hey. There's this thing over here, and it's private. So [0:15:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's good stuff, man. Guys, definitely go check it out. And look. If if there's one lesson to be taken away from here is listen to the shit that Dave talks about in his spaces. Okay? Pay attention, motherfuckers. Because at the end of the day, I could have made you a lot of money if you guys would have just used this shit. But it is what it is. But pay attention, not financial advice. Blah blah blah blah blah. Let me say what's up to Cam and Bill. Oh, Cam, what's good, bro? [0:16:04] Crypto Cam @its_Crypto_Cam: What is good? What is good? What is good? ATC, all things crypto. The tickers, VVV, all the rage, and Bitcoin is out of its cage. Yo. First and foremost, I wanted to say, there's over 50 some people in this freaking room. 60 people now. Alright? Yo. Go hit that dang on purple pill. Hit a like. Hit the repost. There's only nine likes, nine reposts. That's a little ridiculous. You guys are in here getting the juju juju juice from my man Dave and the fam up here on the stage giving y'all information. We ain't asking for a dime. All we asking for is a little bit of your time. Hit that like. Hit that repost. Tag some friends. Send it to your group chats. If you wanna clean up your timeline, unpost it after the space. But why we in here? Why you sitting here? Go on and hit that, baby. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no sense. We ain't gatekeeping up here. We're trying to get everybody this good information, y'all. So you know I Help my boy out. Hit that like. Hit that repost. But what is good? What is good? What is good? I'm sorry. I just felt a little something something for you. My my bad, Dave. [0:17:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: My bad. Good, bro. You're good. I appreciate that, Cam. Thank you, man. Yeah. Go re... Like and retweet this space. My gosh. And who does that? Do people really go back and delete shit off their timeline afterwards as if, like, your timeline, like, manicure is that important? Stop your shit enough. I know one person that did that. Yeah. He ain't no more either. Fuck him. Anyways, Bildo, what is good, bro? [0:17:41] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Joe, what's going on? Happy Tuesday. Long time no talk. Yeah. Just heard you guys talking about BVB, and I know we were talking about that briefly. [0:17:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: So, yeah, I am... [0:17:54] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: I'm kinda blown away and kinda even more bullish after hearing that panel kinda talk about it and those implications. So, yeah, I'm all here for it. [0:18:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's go. And, guys, just so you know, like, we just ran a... In a fucking ridiculous space with Aaron, the Futureverse the Futureverse team, and the think team with Mikey and Jesse. And we we also had the pleasure of getting another dude who I didn't even meet before from Morpheus, a guy named David, the guy literally that invented the word DApp, decentralized application. I don't know how it's, like, crazy that somebody claims that, but, like, they... Like, there was massive, like, validation. They're like, yep. This is the dude that did it. And, bro, [0:18:34] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: the level of 13, and and it's like that word or that idea is, like, what drew me to build what I'm building. So Yeah. Crazy crazy turn. Dave, you're an amazing host. People in the Discord, like, who is this guy? Fucking hire this man immediately. This space is is awesome. I've gotten DMs like, yo. This space is... Was, you know, the best future of her space that we've heard in in a while, so, you know, hats off to you. Aaron also might now be sponsoring me to go to eat Denver. So Let's fucking [0:19:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: go, baby. [0:19:06] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Let's fucking go. It's a good day. Thank you again for everything, and I'm here for, All Things Crypto. [0:19:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it, bro. This is what it's about. Push and support your motherfucking friends out here. You understand? The people that support you, you support them. It's very fucking simple. That's it. That's all you gotta do. It... The formula is not rocket science. But, yo, that conversation was... Like, and we kept it high level too. We didn't even go, like, really, really into the weeds either. Like... And these guy, I... I'm legit, like, contemplating going to eat... Cool. You're go to eat Denver, by the way, or no? [0:19:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. But I I didn't realize it was that soon, man. So I I, you know, I wanted to go. Didn't realize it was that soon. I wish I wish I could. Maybe maybe next time. I'm I'm kinda mad because I I applied for it, but I didn't realize it was in February, man. I didn't realize that. That's very soon. [0:19:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: But you booked you booked... Bro, don't get... Don't give me the excuse. You booked Bitcoin Nashville last minute if I remember last time. That's when we came up the concept of this show was Bitcoin Nashville, bro. [0:20:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: Nah. It wasn't it wasn't last it was last minute, man. I I I was worried working towards that, like, six, seven weeks ahead. But this one, once I saw it, it was... It's been like, what? Like, it's... What... Is it next week, I think? [0:20:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's the end of February into March. [0:20:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, end of February into so. [0:20:25] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Right. You got, like, a month. So it's, like, almost Yeah. [0:20:28] Crypto Cam @its_Crypto_Cam: It's the it's the end of February, but the end of March. [0:20:30] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Church, I think. [0:20:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's go cool. What's your excuse now? Oh, let's go cool. Cool's coming to you, Denver. [0:20:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, wow. Their website's pretty fucking dope. [0:20:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like this. You're of the regenerates. I like that. I like that a lot. Mar, what's good, man? [0:20:48] MAR @MARx24x: Hey. What's up, guys? What's up? Man, you know that I actually... You know when... You know Jupiter just recently did an airdrop. Right? Yeah. And and I didn't even know that I I wasn't expecting an airdrop. And, you know, the the coin price went down, so it was just perfect timing. And then I realized, oh, let me check the airdrop, and the coin was already, like, a a dollar 20. But here's the crazy thing. I've traded in Jupiter. I I don't trade that much in Solana. I'm an ETH maxi. But I've done my little trades on Jupiter and Solana, I didn't know that. I didn't do that many trading. I I don't think I was gonna get an airdrop. But look at look at the glitch. I think it's a glitch. I needed to cash out some crypto. Okay? [0:21:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. [0:21:37] MAR @MARx24x: And I decided to cash out through Robinhood. And you cannot send Robinhood USDT. It's gotta be USDC. And it was a massive cash out. So I turned the USDT into USDC on on Jupiter. [0:21:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Oh, you took advantage of this... Oh, I remember people talking about this. Go ahead. [0:22:01] MAR @MARx24x: You can't... I didn't even... I I didn't... I know, but I didn't do it just for the... I didn't I didn't even know it was a a Jupiter airdrop. So it was a nice cash out, and I ended up... Like, my friends are like, yo. Just call check. I'm like... So the... I guess this is a glitch, and it was a nice airdrop. I'm like, holy shit. So anyone out there, if you got some USDT on Solana, just go to Jupiter and trade it for USDC and maybe in the next airdrop. If they have another airdrop, you know, it's... You don't Yo. When you trade. [0:22:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: All I got was fucking fifth... All I got was fucking 50 Jupe tokens. And then they're like, you wanna stake them? And I'm like, what the fuck? [0:22:38] MAR @MARx24x: 52. Man. I got 4 k, bro. [0:22:41] Voice I: What? How much was [0:22:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: the USDC USDT trade that you did swap? [0:22:47] MAR @MARx24x: I I did, like, over $200,000, man. [0:22:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that's why, bro. Okay. [0:22:51] Voice E: That makes [0:22:52] MAR @MARx24x: Yeah. But but but even if you have that money, you trade on Jupiter, and it's like, you don't lose nothing. It's worth for the... [0:22:59] Voice J: It's worth the airdrop. I don't know [0:23:00] MAR @MARx24x: if they're gonna have another airdrop, but I'm gonna just swipe if I have some... If you have a thousand, you could just be swapping back and forward. [0:23:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I have a question for you guys. Hold on. Because I saw some... I I saw two pieces of news when it came to Jupiter on the timeline, and I need I need you guys to back me up on this. One, I saw Jupiter bought Moonshot. I think that is... That has been confirmed. Correct? Right? Like, literally, Jupiter bought Moonshot, the payment processor. But I also saw something that said Jupiter burned over $3,000,000,000 in tokens. Like, is that true cool? Like, I couldn't corroborate that. Yeah. [0:23:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Both both... I think it's I think it's 2,000,000,000. I don't think it's 3... Think it's 2 to 3,000,000,000, I think. And that's why if you've if you've seen the the price of Jupiter, it's it's holding. It's outperforming everything. It's, like, about 1.25 or whatever. It's it's not going down in price, not really, compared to everything else. So that's the reason why them buying Moose Jaw is a big lucky deal plus... Yeah. That's a big deal plus the, you know, the the burn. That might not even be the end of the burn, man. So I think... Yeah. If you hold Jupiter, I I think the the whole Jupiter play is if you don't have enough Solana, I think the next best thing is probably the DEXIS on Solana. Jupiter, to me, is the next best thing. If you don't hold it on Solana Cool. Cool. Getting the exposure. Yeah. That's how you do it. [0:24:27] MAR @MARx24x: Cool. Question. Didn't they announce, like, some multichain also? Like, they're gonna be not not only on Solana now and all the chains? [0:24:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm not sure about that, though. I... That one... That was down right here. I'm gonna I'm gonna hear about that one. [0:24:42] MAR @MARx24x: Yeah. I I I read something about them going, like, multichain. [0:24:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mark, find something. Can you find the story for us? That would be... That that would be big because Jupiter's been in the news recently, like, heavy. Like, these are... This is not, like, small news. You know what I'm saying? Like, buying Moonshot. Like, you guys saw what Moonshot did just now recently with the Trump, like, token launch. Right? Like, that's... Like, there's tech there. And Jupiter is literally saying, hey. We're gonna go out and, like, start, like, eating this up. And we talked about this the other day where when you start seeing these, like, these... Like, the... Essentially, like, now all of a sudden, like, we're buying up this one. We're buying up that one, and it's starting with the on rampers. Right? Eventually, it's gonna move to the exchanges, and you're gonna see this consolidation where, ultimately, it's gonna be... I think it's gonna be better, right, when you do have this consolidation. Yeah. Yeah. Mark. [0:25:27] MAR @MARx24x: It's called... They're calling a dupe net. JupeNet. Just just Google it. Yeah. Just Google Jupe or they're going multichain, JupeNet, and you'll get all the information. Finance posted about it and everything. [0:25:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Good shit, man. I'm gonna go see if I can find the story. Check this story out, guys. After a request from venture firm a sixteen z, the decentralized autonomous... The Dow, a I sixteen z Dow, is rebranding as ElizaOS. Listen to this shit. Like, fucking... In his Discord announcement, Shaw makes magic, who's essentially the head of AI sixteen z, said that the ticker AI sixteen z will remain for now with future changes to be voted on by the community when our Dow voting module launches. But, like, a sixteen z literally reached out to them and was like, hey, man. Like, you can't be, like, using our likeness or, like, none of this shit. And I find that so interesting because it's like, these are the motherfuckers that are out here pioneering, like, this whole, like, shit. Like, all of it. And now you're gonna be like, nah. You know what? Like, we can't we can't be too too closely associated. I don't know. Maybe it's a nothing story, but I just... This kind of shit just drives me a little crazy. It is what it is. Okay. Let me see what else we got cooking because there was some crazy stories on the timeline. Elite... Obviously, deep sea, the AI. Let me see. Deportation of immigrants. Yeah. I mean, they're hunting. He is... Like, Trump is hunting everybody the fuck down. Like, this is crazy. [0:26:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: Let let me let me... Let let me ask you. What do you what what do you think about that? You think... I know right now it says, yeah, he has a very strong up over rating right now. What do you think three years from now? Because this country, man, like, they turn on you in two seconds, man. Would you think his approval rating will be legit in about three years from now? What what do what do you think? Just a guess. [0:27:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What's the question? Like, do I think that what is gonna be legit three years from now? [0:27:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: Do do you do you think Trump's approval rating will still be high in three years from now? [0:27:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I I genuinely do. And maybe I'm maybe I'm I'm I'm [0:27:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: smoking the whole thing. At Yeah. [0:27:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I I do, bro, because everything he's doing to me is common sense fucking things that, like, this government has literally forgotten and lost their way, bro. Like, I don't know. Like, because to me, it's an inevitability. Right? Because when you do things that to me make, like, perfect common sense, right, don't send 50,000,000 to Gaza for condoms. That makes sense to me. Right? And when you continue to do these things, I just feel like he's acting from the right place, and I can't see how his approval rating won't be. If people are still bitter at that point and, like, the economy is literally thriving and everybody's making money and, like, people are good, no recession, and people are still bitter, that's just fucking ridiculous. But... Go ahead, Landy. [0:28:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sorry. I was... I I was gonna round back for real quick real quick question, not a quack question, as I'm not a doctor, but... Not even a question. It's more of a statement. So Jupiter, did burn the 3,000,000,000 tokens, not not $3,000,000,000, but 3,000,000,000 tokens, which is quite a lot of tokens to burn. Obviously, we know that they bought Moonshot, and their DEX aggregator is the next big thing. So omni chain stuff is is the next step for them. They are moving in position to be, I think, one of the biggest players in the game here very, very quickly. They don't have a lot of competition in this area because of the moves that they made and the way that they... I think they... Don't they own Meteora as well? So they have the pool side of things unlocked if I'm not mistaken. Somebody can fact check me on that. [0:29:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think they do. But from what I read today, I saw that Radium is now, like, the biggest... Like, is going to be... Or is on its way to being the biggest, like, DEX by volume. Yes. But they did over $210,000,000,000 in January in DEX volume, bro. Yeah. It's awesome. That's the most ever. [0:29:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I I I agree. I think they... Well, they're massive. They're... And they're... It's Jupiter and kind of Radium. I'd like to see if Radium's gonna follow suit and kinda go cross chain. But that's kind of the way that everything is headed anyway. And as for your your question, Kool, about Trump, like, he's delivering on the promises that he made to the American people, at least his base. I think that as as more things are revealed, and we're already starting to get hints of what he wants to do moving forward with, you know, tax policies, and we're gonna hear more about crypto stuff as more of his appointments get in and start to get to work. I think his approval rating is much, much higher than even now. I think that we're gonna see a very big shift here in The United States. I think we're seeing it right now by the early indications from his approval rating, as it stands even at this moment just based off of executive orders. We need to see how congress, works with him. We need to see how the Fed works with him coming up here shortly as well or if, or if this is gonna be a showdown with Powell and Trump and how that's handled from there if there is. [0:30:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Polymarket Polymarket's saying 98% chance. No. Change in rates. So let's see. [0:30:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. There's no there's no expected rate decision or change in rates right now. And I don't think... I think it would be silly for Powell to do anything right now without having his hand forced because they're gonna play the the slow game and kinda watch how the administration moves before they they start making any moves. [0:31:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. If we get no rate rate cuts by Thursday, do you think the market are we... Is that what's happening right right now? Are we pricing in in no rate cut? Is that why the market's gonna [0:31:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: We go higher. Higher. Higher. No rate cut. We go higher. [0:31:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: Goes higher. We know we know rate cut. I mean, we're not expecting rate cuts. You you don't think we we go down. [0:31:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. Yeah. I don't think people are expecting a rate cut. [0:31:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Look. No. No. The market is is expected no no cut. And and what would actually happen is either if he did... If he cut or raised, it would actually shock the market, and you would see price volatility probably react negatively because people would be repositioning. Right? So, as it currently stands, you know, it's kinda stay the course, and we'll see how how Trump reacts to no rate cut. Because I think Trump might actually come out and try to apply pressure after the Fed... After Powell speaks. So we'll we'll see kinda what happens, from there. But, yeah, the market that... No. This this is all normal price action that was well telegraphed on the charts well beforehand. So it would be a shock to the market if there was some kinda cut, to be quite honest. I think price would actually react negatively and then, and then positively later. [0:32:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Yeah. Great points. Hopefully, everything stays steady between now and tomorrow. There are no no purple time madness. Cool. I'm reading literally two stories on the timeline, legit back to back. Earlier this morning in The Bronx, ICE raided and arrested the trende Arawa gang leader behind takeover of the Aurora apartments. Right? Like, you literally see these guys on camera. Like, they're walking around, bro, with guns in their hands. Right? And then the story right underneath there, in Miami, two vans packed with 40 illegal Chinese nationals were apprehended and taken into custody about an hour ago in Coral Gables, Florida, five miles west of the Port Of Miami. So, like, this shit has probably been a rampant thing that's been going on. Bro, this is crazy, man. Like, you... The one after the other... Yeah. [0:33:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think what's what's what's what's smart that they're doing is they're making it public. So when you make stuff like this publicly on TV, social media, people see it. So if they voted you for... In office, you know, in in a huge way because they they wanna change and you're showing them the change is gonna maintain that probably high approval rating, I'm assuming. But I think... You know, and the the whole, you know, alignment with those also showing this stuff to the public, showing how much money they're saving the taxpayer, all this stuff makes a big difference, man, and and gives trust. I I I don't know if you guys watch the the press secretary, that young chick that was... She was talking. It was pretty crazy. I I watched the whole thing. Just little seeded, you know, the contract between this press press secretary and the one under Biden, and she she is legit, man. She is legit. Young girl, sharp, you know, very very... She's very quick to to ask me questions. She doesn't run away from me. No line. No bullshit. And the biggest thing the biggest thing of all for me was the fact that they're now allowing podcast [0:34:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: just gonna ask you that. [0:34:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: Can you believe that? To be, yeah, to be part of the press corps. That's crazy. [0:34:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's so cool. Media for podcasters. [0:34:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. For for, yeah, for for any in... Independent media. Because in 2025, '25, that'll be in the the the, you know, the the the world has changed now. People, we don't want needs to be done for. Anymore. People... Exact... We we we we get that news from from, you know, from YouTube and to Jojo Rogan and all these other podcasters. So it's good to get them in there, man, to to... Because they have the they have the audience. So, yeah, it's crazy. [0:35:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: I got a I got a I got a request for you and Dave seeing as you are very prominent figures in the crypto space. Create a media spaces host. Elite spaces host, teaming up, to create a media company and then go and get in the press corps there as Crypto Media and ask the press secretary about crypto policies. That is something that is now viable. I actually have some friends that are are part of some media organizations that that are that are looking into going there in Washington. And their early indications are, come on in. We want you here. We want you to come in and report what we're really doing. And that does mean that newly established media companies... I I might even talk to David Gocks about it. Like, hey. Throw me on. I'll go in there, and I'll ask questions because I know just the questions that I wanna ask. They've been they've they've been... They would be based on the suggestions that were sent up via local to to the Trump administration anyway from the local party. So it would actually be really interesting if we started to get new sets of, like, specialized media, not just general news media, independent news media, but, like, crypto news media in that press corps, and they're probably gonna rotate. So you... You'd likely see a chance. And I think that with, if the crypto community kinda gets together and does this, we could get some of our own people in there, and then you can come right back to Spaces and report on it, which would be really cool. And I'm actually being serious about this, by the way. [0:36:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: I I would say, though, they they are gonna do a very extensive background check on everyone. So I don't know if I or Dave or you or [0:37:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I'm fine. No. No. [0:37:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm fine. You can get [0:37:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: a grant. [0:37:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: You can get [0:37:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: a grant for your organization. So there... There's public grants that are still available for media organizations, and Trump will likely open up those grants to independent media as well. So there's there's some stuff happening in the background. And if [0:37:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Send the link, Landy. Send the link, [0:37:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: go and do my research on it. So I'm just putting things together now, and I'm waiting to hear back from some friends. So we'll see. [0:37:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it an application that we have to fill [0:37:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: out? [0:37:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: You you have to go through the federal grant process. So... Yes. And you have to fill out a grant application. [0:37:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I mean, I've been training Junior to fill out grant applications for years, bro. There you go. Exactly. Perfect segue. Yeah, bro. For years. Years and years, I've been training her to do this, man. You don't have any fucking grant. I mean, like, I'm telling you, bro. Who wasn't the only AirDrop king? Back in the day, I was getting retro grants from optimism. This one, that one. Life was good. Life was good. And now not so much. Alex, what's up? Get your ass up here. Let's chat. Guys, I just came across this news. CZ is signed. Billionaire Binance CZ founder jumps back into crypto with $16,000,000 investment in token airdrop service, SIGN. If this is not a fucking literally a quote sign that the bull market is back and airdrop season is upon us, I don't know what the fuck is. Cool. Do you know what sign is? I've never actually heard of this. Like, this is my first time hearing of it. [0:38:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. I don't... No. No. No. No. I know I know Binance. They have a... I think it's a a website on... Or on point gecko that shows you which which projects are coming out with XOFT in future or something like that. But I know... I think the OCC coming back... You you know, the... They they they funding they funding investment arm. They rebranded to... I can't remember what it's called. Maybe [0:38:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: YZ Labs? So I think... [0:38:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To YZ Labs. So so I thought he joined that re... Rebranded. I think it's good, miss. He's he's... He can't leave crypto. I don't know. You know, there's no way he's part of this culture now, man. So it's good. But I will say, though, he... He's been very interested in tweets that they're making recently talking about don't do leverage, find a a project, that policy, and buy and hold. Like, I don't know what that means, but, okay. [0:39:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's it's He's like, be patient. [0:39:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: This isn't just a regular airdrop. This is... It... It's a a token distribution service platform for on chain credential verification. So there... He's actually aiming at Cool. Into... Yeah. Aiming at cool directly. So this is, I'm I'm reading right now. So this move marks the first major crypto investment following a $4,300,000,000 on. Yeah. Investment is being made through YZ Labs. So this is actually YZ Labs, formerly by NASA. [0:40:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: The headline, Landy. Here's... YZ Labs invest in sign to supercharge global token distribution to humans and AI agents. Oh. That's what they want [0:40:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: to share. [0:40:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Think I got to [0:40:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: that part. Yeah. Blockchain data assets and, like, artificial intelligence. And biotechnology is what... Is another one in there. But the [0:40:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: The agenda? Yeah. [0:40:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: The the credential verification portion, I think, is very interesting because this could... This this seems like it's aimed at enterprises. Right? So I wonder how... What the play is here, what he's got coming up next on the back of that, if he's gonna work his way into the kind of corporate enterprise side of things, and work that in. [0:40:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: We'll see. We'll see. But, your account... Your favorite your favorite counterpart is here, to chime in. Y'all are gonna carry the show for the next fifteen minutes. Thank you very much. What's up, Alex? [0:40:57] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Hey, man. I'm just reading this article. So, yeah, it looks like, what he's doing is it says that the issue that he's trying to solve is that, airdrops are are... The problem that they're... That they have is that they're delivering fewer tokens than promised and being overrun by scalpers using multiple accounts. So this is essentially... Uses this thing called token table that, helps founders launch their tokens and conduct airdrops that verify the identity of each participant. This doesn't actually say that it delivers to agents. It probably uses agents, but doesn't deliver to agents. So the big issue here is gonna be the fact that the, in The US, you know, using air... You can actually use airdrops to deliver court documents and subpoenas and things like that. So one of the bigger users here, especially using these verified signatures, is that now you're going to be able to get, like, served. [0:42:09] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Because you know you can get served, by AirDrop and things like that. Well, one of the problems you have getting served is what if that's not your address or whatever. But using this service, I mean, one of the big use cases for it is going to be, well, you got served, and this is actually now... You know, we can tell that it's your address and you were the proper recipient from it. And if you if you got an airdrop from a particular token, then you can guarantee that you were actually the the proper recipient of a later service because it guarantees... Wait one second. With green change. Okay. One second. Toasted bagels. Okay. That'd be great. That's my daughter. You can guarantee that if you received something that you were then... And there's a problem with that particular token, then you are, you know, then the the appropriate recipient for any later legal action. So, you know, it's it's bringing... It's another one of these things that are bringing KYC into, you know, the crypto. So we... I've been talking in other spaces and with the other rules that have been coming out in in... Like, from various agencies, all of the different things that are bringing PII, KYC, and things like that into crypto. And this is just another thing that doesn't seem like it might be doing that. But when you attach them all together, you'll see how many things are now attaching. I did this? No. What is No. Just... Can you wait? What is it? [0:43:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, let me get that toasted bagel, y'all. [0:43:53] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Go. Toast your bagel, man. Go. Okay. Oh lord. Anyway, these are all things that attach identity to crypto. So the trend that we're seeing now overall, and this is just part of it. And because it's CZ, you can see that it's not just a US trend. I mean, this is definitely something that, is central to this FATF policy is that you're seeing overall, this kind of trend that brings identity into, into digital assets. And the thing that we have to remember most is that right now, at least in The US, we have statements that are saying they're still open to crypto and anonymity friendly solutions to attaching identity to wallets, but not actually necessarily revealing those identities. Right? Just making sure that that information is available, but not necessarily revealing the information unless it's required by, like, you know, an appropriate government official or by subpoena or something like that, but not for general transactions or things like that. So we should be facing right now a hard push on digital ID, And and that digital ID should be compliant with GDPR, with CCPA, with all of these international privacy rules so that we can actually get something internationally recognizable that we can actually use for things like this. Because what he should be able to do with these airdrops is not attach it to a wallet where that wallet is now something where you can send subpoenas to, but attach it to a wallet that has something that's got digital ID attached to that doesn't necessarily give the information of, like, who you are, your your personal identifiable information, but give something that has a token maybe attached to it. And then that token, under appropriate circumstances, then it can unlock your information, but doesn't just automatically unlock your information, if that's clear. [0:46:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: CK proof's in the house. We are moving towards a lot of this stuff. But, yeah, the NFT you'd... You do that. Like, that kind of utility on NFTs would be dope. Yeah. I'm excited to see where it all goes. Alex, I did wanna ask you one more question. I kinda wanted your take on [0:46:30] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Bagels, parenting. I'm here for it, man. [0:46:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Not not so much toasting of bagels. I feel like you'd be a pretty good bagel toaster, if I had to guess. [0:46:38] Voice I: You prefer, like, a bagel, like, [0:46:40] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: extra crispy or, like, light? [0:46:42] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I I am... I'm actually... Yes. I am though... I'm extra... I'm very good at bagel toasting. So just to clarify that, my bagel skills are on point, but go ahead. [0:46:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do you make of kinda... Like, what's what's happened so far, like, with Trump? I I never really got your... We haven't had a chance to speak. Right? And I'm glad that you're here. All the sweeping changes that you're seeing him make, the executive orders you're seeing him sign, like, are you... How do you feel about them? Like, do you feel... And and what's your kinda take for the maybe crypto industry as a whole, for the country as a whole? Like, how are you feeling right now? I just kinda want your general sentiment. [0:47:16] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: So, I don't have, like, a feeling about, executive orders or things like that. Like, I don't I don't roll I don't roll that way. I just did a talk on, like, how to figure out, the, the TikTok ban. Right? Like, breaking down the TikTok ban and, like, you know, is the extension legal? Can the president just enforce rules, decide whether or not to enforce rules or whatever, and, like, walking people through, like, well, here's what the law says. Here's what the rule says. Like like, let's walk through these things and do the regulatory analysis because this is kind of the things that... This is what I do is regulatory analysis, and let me show you how to do it so that you can understand how we come to these conclusions. So I don't really have a feeling necessarily about any particular executive order one way or the other. What I look at is, is this order appropriate? What do I think the outcome is? You know, is... What is the intention? What do I think the outcome of a particular order is? Is this the best way to do it? Right? And that's generally the way I think about it, not necessarily, like, you know, who did it. It's really about how was this done? Is this the best way to do it? So we went from, you know, someone who was, you know, trying to be extremely cautious to someone who's got no sense of caution whatsoever, and neither approach is ideal. Right? So both of them have some fundamental problems. And, and and, you know, I see these executive orders now that are like, baby, bathwater. Who cares? Let's throw it all out. Right? And, previously, we had this, you know, like, you know, well, the only thing I like about that whole crypto thing is that CBDC thing, and I'm like, blah. That's horrible. You know? So it's like, you like the worst part. So, and that's not even crypto. So, you know, it's it's kind of, I just feel like I wanna... You know, same thing that I wanted with the last administration is I just wanna sit them down and just be like, let me let me explain some things to you. Because, I just feel like there's, there's this is still not getting to the heart of what we really need. And we're facing problems now in crypto and in AI and in quantum resistance, which is the next level of technology that's coming out. And we're we're running out of runway for com... For competitiveness. And and I see this actually happening. And and there's there's trouble ahead. Like, we need some systemic change. And not just in our legal structure, we need some systemic change in our educational structure in order to start really catching up. And that's gonna be about two generations of change in order for us to really catch up, which means we have to start now. Right? And and not just catch up, but, like, you know, stay on top for, you know, the foreseeable future. So, I think that there's... Like like, we're now behind, and that's because we had two generations of bad decisions. And, and so when I look at these orders and stuff, I feel like a lot of them are Band Aids. They're not really getting at the heart of what, we need right now for blockchain or for our our cutting edge technologies, and putting us in the lead in technologies, it's not helping, what happened with a lot of families that got left behind here, which [0:51:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: You think it should be more... Like, it should be more drastic, like... Or or just dip... Like, something different, you're saying? [0:51:27] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Well, it's not really about, drastic or not drastic. So I think, fundamentally, we need to understand that the regulatory structure as it currently stands doesn't work for blockchain. Right? So any of the fixes right now for, for the regulatory structure saying, let's find a way to make the current regulatory structure work, that's fundamentally flawed. It doesn't work because, and I've talked about this before, tokens are shifting assets, and we have zero, precedent right now for shifting assets. But almost every asset in the future is going to be some type of shifting asset because of, what we're going to be doing in the future with DeFi, but also because of the nature of quantum computing. So nearly all assets will become some form of shifting asset. And we're not gonna be able to use the same regulatory structure that we use for things like a stock is a stock from the day it starts until the day it ends. Cash is cash from the day it starts until the day it ends. Tokens can be many things during their lifetime and change between holders. They... You can't tell what they are depending on... Like, my decision at the time that I buy it is irrelevant, to what I do with it when I actually spend it. Right? So, that means that our system, which is based on what am I thinking at the time that I purchase it, that makes no sense. Right? Even our system that's based on how is it formed, that doesn't make any sense either because it's almost like what we have. We we we have a system of stem cells now instead of a system of differentiated cells. Like, our our regulatory system is for, liver cells and skin cells and, and intestinal cells, you know, things like that. But all we have now, what tokens are, are all stem cells. They could be anything. Right? So it doesn't make sense to try and regulate them as though they're already determined, when when really for most, most for most of these tokens, as they mature, they could be many different things, and the spender doesn't even know what they are. They don't know what they turned into until after a, an accountant goes back over the transaction and determines what it is. So we need a different kind of a structure. So all the regulatory structures don't really work. That's one part of it. The other part of it is that, none of this is really going to help most of the people who are left behind. Right? So there's a bunch of people who are facing, a lack of income. Right? And one of the things about blockchain and opening it up to retail is trying to say, here, this is a way to get, all these people who don't have access to income, a way to get income. But we have to look systemically at why and how this happened, and is this really, a way to do this? On one hand, we have to say, yes. Yes. I I hate the accredited investor rule, and people do need access to assets. Assets. But on the other hand, we have to look at why are all of these people, lacking access to income. Right? What is that issue that happened? And part of it is that, we traded manufacturing for, the ability to be the international currency. Right? And, and we were supposed to all be this nation of scientists and engineers, and that didn't happen for many reasons. So one of the things that we have to do is figure out where are we in this, process of of trying to make this nation of scientists and engineers. Was that even ever reasonable? And, assuming it was not, because, honestly, it was not, what do we need to remake our our educational system into so that people are more likely to be able to gain revenue so that they can invest in, in whatever assets are available and take part in the economy. And and then in that education, we provide them actual financial education so that it's not like, you know, well, you don't know enough about risk, so you can't invest in anything that has risk. That's the stupidest argument I've ever heard, but that is primarily the argument where rich people can invest in things that have high risk but high return, but poor people can't. Well, if you think that poor people don't understand risk, the the way to deal with that is to teach them about risk. Right? [0:56:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know anybody that's in the teaching... In the education business, Alex? [0:56:41] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I'm trying. [0:56:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm trying, [0:56:42] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: man. I'm trying. Anyway [0:56:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. I I appreciate that, Alex. Let me go to Landy real quick. Landy, go for it. But great stuff, Alex. I appreciate, obviously, you've given me your take on... Because I'm generally curious kinda, like, like, where you stand, but... Or or rather, like, kinda, like, what you thought of, like, where we are, like, currently. But, Landy, go for it, bro. [0:57:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: So to kinda piggyback on what Alex was talking about, with the executive orders, I also view them as a stop gap stop gap measure, to allow Mark Ueda, who is the incoming SEC chair, and then, of course, Carolyn Pham, who gonna be the CFTC chair along with the newly formed banking subcommittee on digital assets that Cynthia Lumis has now just announced the team for that she's putting together. Because you have to have a stop gap measurement to kind of put the framework in place to kinda direct where... You know, for Trump where he wants the SEC chair and the CFTC chair to kinda aim, right, for for regulatory solutions and clarity. And then a lot of this is gonna... I I believe he's going to go directly through to congress and specifically through, Cynthia Lumas' working group there with the digital asset subcommittee and start to really build out a framework for this stuff in the future. And, you know, as we know, you know, one of Trump's biggest goals is bringing manufacturing back to The United States because we do have these problems, and we do have these issues in education and trade in in terms of the trades, not trade between nations, but the trades, that are needed in many cases for, you know, the the specialty sectors of, you know, manufacturing. So I think that, in my personal in my personal view on some of this stuff, you know, I'm I'm pretty much aligned with Alex on a lot of the the, issues at hand, but I do think, at least, I'm confident in the direction that things are going. And you remember when I was saying, you know, after the election that, hey. We gotta watch for price first quarter to second quarter because we need to see, we need to see all of the different policy proposals start to be enacted. Right? We need to see movement in implementation. And so far, so good, but it's still very early days. I mean, we're we're eight days into this administration, and they are working and prioritizing very much on on hyper specific things right now that they're putting out there and really talking about, well, a lot of things are happening in the background. I might be taking a trip to Washington pretty soon... Washington DC, is, pretty soon to actually have some conversations myself. Wee. Yeah. I'm gonna... Well, I'm gonna get the... I'm gonna get my high chair, my little booster seat for the plane ride there. And [0:59:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. [0:59:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hopefully hopefully, this stuff, from what I'm hearing on the ground, is there's really positive conversations, but things need to be done. Right? And there is so much to do. It's kinda crazy. So I still think we're on that path. One of the big things I wanted to ask about the previous story, though, before we move on. With with this kind of almost like a digital ID identifying who's gonna... Or certifying essentially who's getting these airdrops. Right? Alex, you brought up, court documentation. And for people that maybe aren't even on the blockchain, I I asked Viper the other day. He had used BankerBot to, like, hey. Send, Landy a dollar of Banker, and then it did a confirmation. But I'm like, well, how does he even know my address? Because I don't have that address public. And he's like, oh, it's it's it's making you an address. Is this potentially a scenario in which this kind of thing from CZ is gonna head? Like, you're... You you need documentation of some sort from somewhere, and instead they they utilize the blockchain, and then you get the address later that you have to go and confirm. Is that kind of the direction that you could see things going? [1:00:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's noncustodial wall. That's privy protocol, Lindy. It's pretty standard. A lot of people are using it now. But... Yeah. Sorry. For, like, for... [1:00:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: But, I mean, is this is this potentially what what his investment in this was for is my... Is kinda my point. [1:01:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. [1:01:06] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Sorry. So so just just just, repeat. My daughter was talking to me with more of this baby order. [1:01:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: So More bagels, mom. Post a bagel. [1:01:14] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Oh my god. Like, the order... The specificity of the cream cheese is insane. Okay. So, like, anybody else have a have a kid? Because, like, Eric, this is what this... Yeah. So you know [1:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: what I'm saying. [1:01:27] MAR @MARx24x: Mhmm. [1:01:27] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Anyway, so [1:01:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: go forever. [1:01:32] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: So so can you just repeat what you were saying about the... What the... What you thought the order was doing? So What you thought CZ's thing was doing? [1:01:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I I was asking... Well, it's more of my... More of a question because you had mentioned, like, the use case for, like, legal legal documents, for instance, and you need to be served legal documents. Obviously, if you're not on the blockchain, then they're going to utilize mechanisms where they're they're creating it for you, and then you have to confirm it on the other side. Now it's been delivered to you digitally, and that mechanism to... And and kind of this being the mechanism for issuance of digital IDs, something like this, and and that kind of being the goal in that direction? [1:02:19] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Yes. That that can happen. Right? That could happen where... Because it doesn't preclude you. Like, it doesn't... It's not a requirement that you have a, you know, a digital address or you've been fluent on blockchain. Right? Mhmm. So this is actually the very interesting direction, especially as we're talking about government moving on to blockchain. And the interesting thing is that other countries are so far ahead of us on blockchain that they're already looking for ways to do this because it is clear proof of service and proof of delivery. Right? So so, yes, this is certainly one of the things that I believe that they're looking to do, which is, proof of of delivery, proof of service of documentation, which if you think about it, one of the things about service is, the elusiveness of people who who know that they're being served and, don't wanna be served. Right? [1:03:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [1:03:25] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: And the thing about this is that that ability to evade service completely goes away. And then the only issue then is ensuring that you notify the person that there is something available for you on on chain. And that would be, as soon as there are, for example, government mandated boxes or something like that or some email or, like, official email or a post office or something like that that... Where a notification pops up saying you have a box or something like that or you have a message, on chain or something like that. That's all that needs to be connected, in order for that to work, then then that's really it. Right? Because that's... The only thing that's required is there's some method to notify that you are guaranteed to be notified or you should have been notified. So, so it's intriguing, especially because in other countries, they already have that connected and set up. So, I actually see that the broad use of this is is... I mean, they're they're gonna use it for things also like packages and stuff like that. But but for legal documents, that's gonna happen. I mean, it can happen here as soon as, you know, we decide we would like to set this up too. We just have so much in the way. But the ability to do, I mean, an incredible amount of work, you you know, using chain is just [1:05:04] MAR @MARx24x: I I [1:05:04] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I mean... And also Yeah. Think of the amount of money that once... If a government sets up a chain and then starts doing things that the private sector also does or even, like, state, local, and private sector also do and then pay a minimal fee to the government to use their chain, all of that money should offset our taxes, which I'm super for. I love the idea of the government, actually generating its own revenue. There's nothing in in the constitution or or in any government documents that say that the government can't generate its own revenue that offsets our own taxes. So I love this idea personally. I'm all for it. [1:05:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And I could I could potentially see this just rolling right into some sort of [1:05:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: eventually backdoring its way into... Slow rolling its way into on chain voting as well, which has also, been heavily discussed. [1:06:07] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: A 100%. A 100%. And then every state, local election that happens, every private company that has a shareholder vote or a proxy vote, all of that goes onto a government chain, and they pay, like, you know, a fraction of what they would do with those stupid... Their mailing costs and all that garbage. They pay a fraction of that on that, but it's still hundreds of millions of dollars, and all of that is deducted off of our taxes. Yes, please. [1:06:40] Voice E: Nerds. Oh, wow. That's exciting. [1:06:43] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I mean, we're avaricious. We want money. Like, whatever. I would like to keep my money. [1:06:48] Voice E: Yeah. No. I I mean, completely aligned. [1:06:50] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I would like to keep my money. [1:06:52] Voice E: There's so many, like, ways that they're able to go out and do it. I I think that just tying in the two conversations that you guys were having, I I really see this being, like, a carrot and a stick, and that stick's gonna have a nail in it. So... And the way that I say that is there will be a way that we're going to be able to validate that...... [1:07:09] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Subscribe to you. Please. With [1:07:11] Voice I: that. It [1:07:15] Voice J: will. It will and I'll [1:07:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll I'll land it too. [1:07:18] Voice I: I just got, like, a... Do you watch Walking Dead? You know, the bat? [1:07:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Yeah. [1:07:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was thinking the same thing, actually. [1:07:26] Voice E: I was thinking bigger boards and bigger nails from The Simpsons, but absolutely goes that way too. But going back to my point, the the... That will be us, like, as citizens of whatever country validating that we are that citizen and therefore... And still be able to hide our identity. It's not like we will be on chain, and there's gonna be products like Veil and lots of other ones that are able to hide us but validate us. And I think once we're able to tie that in with all of the government goodness, In my real life, I'm a lean manufacturing nerd. That's what I've done for a long time. I I cannot wait until all the red tape shit can be, like, extracted from the system and the blockchain can be utilized. Oh, we have x number of dollars in our community that you can decide how big your community is. Okay. Here's the five things we're gonna vote on. That's what I would like it go to. Okay. Here's the vendors that are proposing it. Okay. Well, what do they do do... And everyone can vote. And now it's like a little community DAO. I I realize that's not tomorrow, but that's, like, my blockchain dream. And that's, like, what I kinda came to the space with. And I I think that we're just getting closer and closer to that being a reality as the blocks and the costs continue to decrease. Thank you for this conversation because it's fantastic. Love it. [1:08:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave. Dave, wake up, Dave. [1:08:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys hear my clap... Did you guys hear my clapping? [1:08:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. I thought you fell asleep for a minute. No. [1:08:49] Voice J: That's okay. Thanks. [1:08:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. [1:08:52] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: She and [1:08:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I are gonna [1:08:52] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: be on our own party, the blockchain thing. [1:08:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I mean, you guys are fucking nerds right now, and you're just so nerding out. I'm like, I would love [1:08:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: to hear. [1:09:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well played. Well played. Well played. I'll give it to you. I actually don't have another story. So if you nerds wanna continue to fucking talk about nerdy stuff, then, yeah, that's cool. [1:09:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. He's [1:09:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: here. What else is good? That is cool. [1:09:18] Voice J: I'll I'll go with that. I'll go with the stick. [1:09:20] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. I didn't land [1:09:21] Voice E: my stick point, and it's the... We're going to [1:09:23] Voice J: your preview, Brandon. What is... [1:09:25] Voice E: Yes. It's a really great tool that a lot of people are utilizing, like, to make these custodial wallets for us. And I think that part of that, there will be... That's... That nail will be us going to get free money, and then the government is gonna know all too much than we want to be able to know. [1:09:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: So Here's your stimmy. [1:09:41] Voice E: There's the fucking stimmy, and there's all the information you've handed over as a result. We may have already done it. Who knows? [1:09:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Probably in various ways. Yeah. Not not a... Not really farfetched considering some of the, you know, the appetite of the surveillance state as it is. Like, look. The the... One of the... My my concerns has always been is that that it just goes way too far. Right? And you can see how you start out very slowly, and then as it picks up speed, it goes way overboard and way too far. And that's where I think that, policy really matters from here on out. And and then... And in a much bigger way and a much more urgent way than we've ever seen before, with the pace at which, you know, blockchain is progressing in terms of technology. And then you add in some spice of AI now, which is, absolutely taking flight in ways that, you know, we we didn't even foresee just a couple years ago. Even though it was all kind of there already, just the speed of adoption is is really picking up at a pace that I think, is a little bit too much for somebody like myself who would like to just sit here and trade charts, but that's just me. I'm I'm kind of a small brain in that in that regard. [1:11:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's the t and a guy, and I'm the t and a guy. Anyways, wah wah. Okay. I did want [1:11:15] Voice E: the AI is gonna replace. [1:11:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Charting. Yeah. And then, like, thank god. Lately will be obfucking lead. I can't wait. Probably is already. We just... We've been so lazy to actually go look for the thing to make him obsolete. But I bet you the the AI exists. Like, you kidding me? Like, the technical anal... Like, analyst? For sure. [1:11:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: We have it in house at one of the firms, and it's just Algos. Mhmm. It's been rebranded as AI now to charge us more money. [1:11:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Like... And they also don't have the open and close. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a special special thing in crypto. The open and the close. That's a landy special. Viper, you should come to... What's it called? If we go to East Denver, would you come to East Denver? [1:11:57] Voice E: I am going to FarCon in May. That that one is for sure. When is the Denver one? And it's really just, like, bandwidth. Like, I still mine Fiat. [1:12:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: So, actually, in May, if you're going to, the the Forecast thing, I think that's gonna be Bitcoin Vegas, I think, too. Right? Yeah. When is that? Yeah. I think [1:12:18] Voice E: they're in that same time frame. The FarGone [1:12:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: is May one to four, [1:12:22] Voice E: I think, or maybe it's two to five, somewhere something like that. [1:12:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Isn't it the twenty seventh is when Vegas starts? I I just got confirmation stuff, so I'd have to go look. But I think it's late late May for for, Bitcoin Vegas. [1:12:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Alex, I I I need you to train me for one of these pitch fests. Like, I feel like I would fucking crush it. I just need to know what I'm pitching. Maybe Junie as a business. Like, what... Like, let's do... I'm looking at this shit right here, and I'm just like, I would crush this shit. I just need, like, guidance on, like, how did... Because I listen to you all the time, and I'm like, I know I'm very rough around the edges, but, like, polish me up, Alex. Let's let's fucking... Let's get some get some money in here. You know what I mean? Let's get an exit to our name or to mine. [1:13:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, this is this is... Okay. I've got a pitch for you. You just become the guy... The the hired gun that goes in and pitches for other projects and just get paid boku bucks and just pitch to pitch to pitch to pitch [1:13:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I used to do that. [1:13:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Rake it in. [1:13:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I used to do that for ENS names and and we... Because we used to have, like, a makeshift shark tank where people would buy ENS domains. And they'd be like, dude, can you go in and chill my name? Dude, can you go in and chill my name? Because, bro, I can come up with, like, the wildest use case off the top of my dome in, like, five seconds. I'm like, listen to this. So if the only thing I could do is tell a fucking story, that's for sure. [1:13:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's for sure. Yep. Oh, man. [1:13:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alex, why are you so quiet? [1:13:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, Cool and Alex are playing basketball now. [1:13:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Miyagi wax on. Wax [1:13:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: on. Bagels and basketball. [1:13:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alex, say something. Are you gonna train me or what? [1:13:55] Voice I: You're gonna take me on to... [1:13:56] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I didn't even realize I was muted. I I was just making tea and listening to you guys. Yeah. I can help you with your pitch, but you got... You know, you need a business model. This is the biggest problem with so many people in in anything blockchain. Business [1:14:13] MAR @MARx24x: model. [1:14:14] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: You guys need a business model. Issuing tokens in general is not a business model. That's not a business model. That's not... Like, it doesn't give you repeated revenue. [1:14:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's too late. Too late now. Okay? We can't go back. I can't I can't put the coins back in the wallet. Okay? We have to make do with what we have. Alright? So I need you to work with me. Work with me, not against me. [1:14:36] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: So sad. I mean, there's some really good models out here, and there are some companies that are doing some great stuff. But, man, the thing is that most of the companies that are actually, like, thriving are not on x. And that is the painful part. That's the part that I really want. Like, the x people have to, like... You know, we gotta do better. That's why I do, like, the pitch spaces and all this other stuff is that, come on, guys. We can, like, up the level of of, like, the investors here and the companies here. Everybody can do better. A lot of it is just, you know, lack of education. So we can do much better here. It's just we gotta get, like, the, you know, the quality up here. And and even people who are doing creative stuff, you still have to do... If you're doing gaming, if you're doing, like, you know, some NFT stuff or whatever, there's still some basic core business requirements you gotta add in. And that's why, you know, it's not generating the kind of money that you think, or that it could generate. And people think really small and short term. You know? We gotta get a lot of people thinking bigger, bigger, broader, real businesses here. So, I mean, there's just a lot of bigger business decisions here. I feel like a lot of, like, real business is not being talked about in the same room with blockchain, and that needs to end. You guys, like, we have to have business decisions and business discussions in here because a lot of blockchain, it's just a technology and a business just needs to be applied to it. That's it. Right? It's just a technology, but you still gotta apply that business to it. [1:16:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mold me. [1:16:18] Voice I: I'm still got this leak... [1:16:21] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: We're leaking out hundreds of millions of dollars in in so much of this technology, and it's just it's just... Like, it pains my heart. Alex, you know [1:16:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: what it is? [1:16:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's because Oh my god. [1:16:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because when we're actually pitching, we're pitching oriental rugs at this point because we're just waiting for somebody to take the bait and then pull the rug right up from under them in this space. [1:16:42] Voice J: Did did you [1:16:42] MAR @MARx24x: hear that? We need [1:16:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: to get [1:16:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: out of that mode. [1:16:44] Voice E: Did you hear Alex? Just absolutely shilling banker, and she has no idea. [1:16:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know she was. [1:16:52] Voice J: Was shilling banker hard. [1:16:54] Voice E: Keep going, dear. [1:16:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. Like, I really think about it, Alex, and I'm like, Junie, Junie, Junie. And, like, I've been spending so much time, but I've never, like, set... I've never thought through the whole business plan. Right? It's like Yeah. [1:17:07] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Because you're thinking about it as an end product. It's just an intermediary. That's what you... [1:17:14] MAR @MARx24x: That's the [1:17:14] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: problem is you haven't thought the end game yet. [1:17:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Help me. [1:17:18] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Yeah. But you know what? You never follow through. You're like, I gotta... We gotta get on a call. [1:17:22] Voice I: Help me. I'm poor. [1:17:24] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Get on a call. Yeah. [1:17:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is [1:17:26] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: where you you have to get on a call. I can walk you through it. [1:17:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what I'm gonna walk you through, but I'm... My thing... You know what it is? [1:17:35] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I do. I'll walk you through it. [1:17:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yes. Okay. Good. Good. That's that's good. You know what I think it is also, though? Like, a lot of, like, project founders, once you have the token attached... And I'm curious what you guys think about this. Right? Because I saw something recently where it was, these these b three these b three guys that were former, like, base developers were like, look. Like, base doesn't have a native token. Right? And people say that that's that's to... Let's... That's to its benefit. Others are saying, no. But it prevents it from doing a lot of other things. When you... I think you're right, Alex. When you attach a token to something, you then become financially invested in that thing, and you lose sight of the actual thing you were building in the first place. Right? And I try and ground myself and bring myself back to it where I'm like, okay. This is gonna drive value for this. But then I lose sight. It's like, well, what's the problem I'm solving? What's my market? Like, is there a need for this fucking shit right now? Like, do people want this? Do... Can they use it? Like, I asked myself a million questions. But the last thing is the rate at which the space is changing and accelerating, Alex. Like, by the time I figure that out, like, things have things have shifted, like, 70 degrees. And it's like, fuck. Now I gotta go back to, like...... [1:18:42] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. What you care about is your market. You don't care about where the technology is moving. We can all kind of see the projection of the market. The really important thing is where... Of, like, of the technology. Right? You don't... Like, we see the the projection of the technology. What you care about is your market. Where is your market going? Who... What... You're solving a specific problem for a group of people. Right? And the solution requires the use of blockchain technology. Right? Maybe you're solving a problem for a group of people and and blockchain is not the technology you wanna use. That's okay too. But for people who are solving a problem and blockchain is the best technology, and there are a number of problems that are like that. Right? If you are solving a problem and blockchain is the best technology for it, you have to know that you're solving it for who's. That means that your question will never be, who should I sell this to? Right? As soon as I hear people, who would wanna buy this whatever shit I made? That means you did it backwards. You made some shit with your... With the technology, and now you're like, Who should I sell it to? That means you didn't solve a problem for the specific group of people. You gotta find your problem first. It's always the hardest, longest part. Then you solve your problem. When when NFTs first came out, they were honestly... Those art NFTs, they were solving a problem for a group of people. They were actually solving a problem for a group of people. People who wanted to buy the art of artists that primarily worked in digital art, but couldn't actually sell their art because most of their art was in movies by DreamWorks, right, and Pixar. They had fans. They had tons of fans on, on social media. And they couldn't sell that art, but they had other art. And they wanted to talk to people about getting their art, like these projects that they had. And they had all these people. They were also very tech focused, and almost all of them, as it turns out, were crypto ready even if they weren't already in blockchain. They had one too many, ways of communicating, which is social media. They already knew digital art as a form of art because they were fans of these artists. They were fans of animators and these artists that were in the... That were film artists. So it what... It actually did solve a problem for these particular fans who wanted the art of these particular people and didn't have a better way of getting it. So NFTs were the... Was the technology that these artists found and used for that particular purpose. So it is actually a solution for a particular group of people. So think about what exactly, like... And then people mistook it for, oh, it's cartoons or whatever it is. No. It's not. Right? It's... And then for people who don't know, NFTs are just baskets of rights. Right? The image that you see is just a representation of ownership. Right? It's the difference between taking a picture of a house and owning the deed to the house. They are not the same thing. The NFT is the deed to the house. So, anyway [1:22:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So I'm reading this, Alex, and it literally on the site for East Denver in this pitch fest. It says interested in attending or replying at the Buffy Tank pitch fest. Sounds like it's okay. Start... Startups will showcase their latest ideas in blockchain with a preferred focus on teams who are not issuing tokens as a mean to fundraising, have identified a sustainable model, leverage Web three blockchain technology in a way that displaces conventional businesses, brings the next billion users or maybe a 100,000,000 users into Web three. And it says this celebration is a prime occasion to marvel at the exceptional talent within our ecosystem, blah blah blah blah blah. Buffet Tank offers an open call. However, please be aware that to apply. You must be a member of SporkDAU. What the fuck? It's essential to note that your startup risk forfeiture under specific conditions such as... What? Submitting this... Anyways. But that's, like, the criteria. So should we... Are are we gonna, like, literally buckle down to the next three weeks? Like, you know, water diet, the cool crypto diet. We're gonna get into shape. We're gonna get into pitch fest shape. What do you think, Alex? You ready to, like, turn me into, like, the fucking rocky of this shit or what? [1:23:28] Voice I: I don't know. [1:23:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: What the fuck? Alex, I need you excited when I come to you like that. Like, that's the closer of the show right there. It's like, yeah. Let's do this, Dave. But... Man. [1:23:39] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: I mean, you can. I mean, you can do it. You wanna be part of that down? [1:23:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. If it's gonna get me in here, it's gonna give me some money, and I can actually figure out this would make sense. I think we need to talk first because you gotta tell me if this is even a business. Right? Like, I need to figure out... I need some direction because I feel like I've been down in the weeds so long. Yeah. [1:23:59] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Yeah. Gotta figure out if it's a business. I don't... I think it's good that they're not requiring you to have... That they require you not to have a token attached because that forces you to have a business model. [1:24:11] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Right. Right. [1:24:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Because, like, essentially, what you're doing is you're fundraising with the token, and then you're buying yourself runway. It's like, we'll figure it out. And it's like, no, motherfucker. You should figure it out before you actually start the business, but I got you. Alright, guys. I'm gonna get into my rocky mode. I'm gonna do some push ups after this. Cool. You're gonna be so proud, bro. Chicken and broccoli. Whatever I gotta do, I'm gonna get into tip top shape. That's actually a lie. Probably gonna go eat a Snickers bar, drink a Coke, and go lay down, if I'm being honest. It's been a long day in spaces. Really long day in spaces. But [1:24:45] Voice E: Yes. I [1:24:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: I thought I thought you said your your your New Year's resolution was get... Yeah. That's six pack, bro. Or 2025. What happened to your new New Year's resolution, bro? What happened, man? What what happened was [1:24:57] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: He got a keg. [1:24:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Like, why get a six pack when you get a keg, bro? You know? So I've been working on that. It's been good. There's been going fine. Yeah. You know, now doing laundry over here. You get the laundry ready... Like, the machine ready to fucking die. Yeah. Anything else in the last five minutes, guys? Anything that we missed? [1:25:20] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Yeah. I'm officially going to eat Denver, Dave. You gotta figure it out. I'm not gonna be the same without you, so you gotta make it work. I will be there. So, yeah, let's do this. [1:25:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: So build up literally just said, thank you, Dave, for being the springboard to getting me the the sponsorship to eat Denver. Figure your shit out and get there yourself too because we need to have a good time. Won't be the same, but I'm gonna leave you anyway. Just won't be the same if you don't go. Bildo, I'm gonna work it out, bro. I got you. [1:25:48] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: I mean, if anybody can make it happen at you, I don't feel like you need my help to make it happen. [1:25:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. I'm I'm about to tell us, bro. [1:25:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm really, really happy for you, bro. That fucking Discord looks lit right now, man. Like, I'm super, super excited for you. I'm glad they like the space. Yeah, man. Spaces change lives out here. You know what I mean? Little enthusiasm goes a long fucking way, and a little knowledge of actually knowing what the fuck you're talking about with your guests on stage actually goes a long way. Except if you're me and you're trying to convince Alex to take you on for Pitchfest. Yeah. Anyways... Alright. Anything else? Cool? Anything before we go? You got your 07:00 stream, Fancy Pants. Everybody go follow Cool on YouTube. [1:26:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. Starting in, like, two minutes. Let's go, baby. [1:26:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wee. Landy, what do you got? Anything else cooking? [1:26:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Not tonight. I mean, I'll be on the the pump radio show probably later tonight. But for now, I'm gonna be taking off to to constantly chat in CoolStream, while taking care of my son. [1:26:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Oh, woah. I did wanna say this to you to you and to Alex. And, cool, obviously, this this obviously goes to you as well. So I... I'm literally this close to signing, like, probably what... Like, the largest client deal that I've ever signed. It's like a month long, like, exclusive sponsorship. It's gonna be for here, like, ATC, for spate... Like, regular spaces for for me, like, for... Like like, me running the regular spaces, but, like, here's sponsorship. So, like, everyone's gonna be included. Do you guys think that you'd, like, you'd wanna come on, like, as reg... Not regular contributors, but, like, it's gonna be for Bitcoin OS. And I know, obviously, Lindy, like, you're a Bitcoin dude. Alex, I know that, you know, you and have the Hoskinson connection, and, obviously, they're... You know, them and and the AIDA connection, they're gonna be an l two. So I would love to really have you guys as, like... As often as you can come, obviously. Like, there's no obligation. You know what I mean? And I will never pay either of you because you probably both make a shit ton more money than I do. So just so you know that, I will not pay you. But it would be great if you could come. Yeah. No. I'm Or you... [1:27:51] Voice J: Yeah. I'll come. [1:27:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's just nice to be here. [1:27:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: You have space to be here. [1:27:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: Have a space drop the link. [1:27:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll show up, man. No worries, dude. Let's go. [1:27:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. For sure. Yep. I'll be there. [1:27:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: My man. Alex, I didn't hear any affirmation from you. [1:28:03] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Man, no. I'm kidding. [1:28:08] ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: Will show up whenever I can. I like hanging out with you. I think you're funny. So I'm happy to do it. [1:28:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. And Viper, Bildo. Yeah. [1:28:20] Voice E: I don't [1:28:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: know. These two... I don't know what to do with these two. I was gonna say some [1:28:23] Voice E: things about you for... But forget it, Dave. Yeah. [1:28:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was just using you, duh. I was just using you, obviously, just to get closer to Vitalik. Okay? You got followed by Vitalik. Now I'm gonna use the banker bot to get myself a follow. Thank you. [1:28:35] Voice E: Which trust but verify. [1:28:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Totally bitch slapped him. Buildo, congrats. That's really, really awesome to hear, guys. Thanks everybody for coming through. Coins, I shot you the follow, man. It's good to be back in the trenches. I genuinely have no idea who you are. Maybe I do. I don't. I don't know. But you're in the DM's being like, it's so good to be back, and I just don't wanna ruin your shine, bro. You know? It's just like, yeah. [1:28:57] MAR @MARx24x: It's good [1:28:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: to have you back, bro. Norby Vincent, Sunny d, good to see y'all. Omiwan, LJD, Riot. Shout out the real uncommon podcast. Oh, Max is here. What up, Nino West? On god and everybody else that came through, I appreciate y'all, man. Have yourselves a good one, and we will see you tomorrow. Peace.
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