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Episode · Feb 26, 2025

ATC: Decentralized AI Alpha LIVE From ETHDenver

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Dave @DCBK2LA joined the show live from ETHDenver after spending the day at the Decentralized AI World event, sharing raw alpha from multiple presentations and conversations. He highlighted several projects at the intersection of decentralized AI, autonomous agents, compute, and interoperability, with special emphasis on the Futureverse ecosystem, Altered State Machine’s upcoming conversion to ThinkToken, and Venice AI (VVV). The conversation covered the massive opportunity in owning your own data and AI agents rather than relying on centralized conglomerates, the importance of attending side events at conferences, and practical advice on networking with builders. Speakers also discussed current market rotations, Kaito’s strength, and the value of paying attention to early-stage protocols with real utility. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

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Chapters
Dave returns from Decentralized AI World at ETHDenver and shares immediate alpha
Strategy to bring multiple decentralized AI projects onto ATC next week
Altered State Machine (ASTO) converting to ThinkToken + Brains NFTs
Demo of Bored Ape with ASM brain building 3D assets in real time and solving memory issues
Souls, agent-to-agent marketplace, and personal AI agents with unlimited memory
Venice AI (VVV token) as fully decentralized LLM with user-owned data and staking utility
Spheron - programmable compute for autonomous agents at fraction of the cost
Morpheus Network - chain-agnostic AI agent interoperability across any blockchain and dataset
Render Network updates for real-time massive image rendering at 90% lower cost
Heurist AI - decentralized AI as a service cloud with existing token
Wired project and additional decentralized AI builders
Kaito at all-time highs, staking mechanics, and tokenizing attention
Conference vibe at ETHDenver, importance of side events over main hackathon
How to approach founders and builders at conferences to create content and build relationships
Transcript
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# ATC: Decentralized AI Alpha LIVE From ETHDenver | 2025-02-26 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1MnxnwqDZPXKO | status: approved
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[0:00:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: K. Hold on. Let me get this thing fired up. I literally just walked into my hotel. My Uber driver was like, quick quick quick, my bugger. Let's go.
[0:00:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's my password? I have no idea what my hotel password is. Welcome 1. Well, Dev, what up? Cole was good. Dee, what up? Uni was good. I'm gonna get this thing cooking in just a second. Welcome, Juan. I got some stuff to share with you guys, but let's play a little first. You know what I mean? A little. Little. A little.
[0:01:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[0:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe? Maybe not? What's happening? Why is it not playing?
[0:01:39] Voice D: What's going on?
[0:01:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it when there's issues with my laptop, but it's okay. Don't worry. We're gonna figure it out. Let's see if this one works. Okay. Let's see this one. Boop. Enjoy this music, guys, while you wait.
[0:02:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: She take away Hey. I'm in need of heat. Yes. It's Bitcoin takes my money when I'm in need. Oh, it's a gold digger. Way over town. That dig on me.
[0:04:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: But it came out. You go out to eat. You can't pay. Y'all can't leave. His dishes in the back. You gotta roll up your sleeves. But while y'all watching Oh, boy. What up, baby? Out of that, Tyson. You got that ambition, baby. I can't wait. I can't wait anymore. Forget all this, man. What's good, everybody? Happy hump day. Happy Wednesday. Hope everybody is good. I made it back just on time. You guys had an amazing ATC episode yesterday with cool Landy, the whole crew while I was actually flying. Dope dope space yesterday. I loved it. Cool. Good shit. Guys, when I tell you what we're gonna talk about today and the shit that I saw today at decentralized AI world, when I say blew my fucking mind, like, I cannot even begin to tell you. Listen to me when I say this. Okay? The alpha is going to be in this conversation. Okay? Like, you're able to spot the trends. Not even the trends. They're literally telling me, like, on stage, hey, guys. We're literally gonna be launching our token. So you wanted... Somebody even came up and referred and said, oh, by the way, if you guys were at our last event that we did just like this, which was six months ago, you would have seen the virtuals team that came up and presented when that was at literally 35¢, and that shit went to $5. So I'm gonna give you guys the whole fucking rundown of everything that I literally saw over the course of... And this is just five hours, mind you. This is just day one. I didn't go to the BTC comp... I didn't go to the BTC event. I didn't go to the fucking stacks event. I went just to this because I am such a believer in this decentralized AI shit. It is absolutely wild. But let me shut up. I know my excitement gets a little crazy. Cool. What's good, my bro?
[0:06:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. What's going on, man? Yeah. I'm here to hear. Alpha from you definitely... I got... I'm driving, like, in my pen and paper. So I'm writing down all this shit you're saying, bro. So you you are there. You you in the belly of the beast, man. So let's fucking go.
[0:06:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, baby. Lindy, what's good, my brother?
[0:06:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's good, Dave? What's good? Cool. Yeah. No. This is, I'm excited. And and believe it or not, I'm excited about what's occurring in the markets as well. But, if we have time, we'll get to some of that maybe later, though. I wanna hear all the alpha. I wanna know what's going on in Eat, Denver. I'm excited about this. There is a lot of really cool shit going on that I've also heard. I've got some friends there as well as as yourself out there. So I've I've been getting some some tips here and there on some really, really cool shit. And everybody's, like, happy. Everybody's actually, like, pumped, which is is not the sentiment that you're seeing in socials right now.
[0:07:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. When I tell you guys, like, people in the... Like, people could give two fucks what was going on in... Literally in the crypto market, Bitcoin being hitting 82,000. Like, they could literally care less. When I tell you the level of excitement in this place... I mean, first off, you walked into this place, I felt like I was back in Singapore at fucking... That event where it's like... You look like you took you took a bunch of mushrooms and you walk into the place. Like, what the fuck is going on in this place? You know? But it is in those places, in these little ass rooms, we were maybe 200 people packed to the fucking gills, guys, and it was absolutely not so... Like, let's just jump into it. Like, let me just kinda, like, see if I could just dump out as much as I can in the short time that that that I'm able to, and then I'll I'll obviously, like, check-in with you guys. But just so everybody knows, like, my game plan going into this, you're aware and everybody can kinda make the plans and adjustments, was every single speaker that got on stage, I made it a point that after they were done speaking, my ass walked right over, and I said, listen. Here's what I'm doing. I'm doing this in partnership with with with Jesse and Mikey, who are the hosts of the event, the ThinkAgent crew, right, which is obviously like the offshoot of the Futureverse crew. If you are not familiar with Futureverse, I... You you you need to wake up. You need to start going and following the Futureverse account, the Readyverse account, Aaron McDonald, David McDonald, Sharra Senderov, follow Buildo, follow Gex, and every single person around that's in that ecosystem because these guys have their hands in literally every single thing that is going on, and they're working with all of them. So let me just be clear. My game plan was I'm going into this, and I'm like, it's gonna be impossible for me to get all these guys on one space. So I said to myself, how could we actually do this better? So I said, listen. Everything one of them I said, next week, I'm organizing a week of ATC
[0:09:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Goddamn it, b. You would think b grand would know that I'm running ATC literally every single day at the same time, but yet my best friend literally has no idea and still calls me at that exact same time. Go figure. I I I just don't understand. What I was saying, next week, we are going to be running a full week of decentralized AI, and we're going to have anywhere between one and five different protocols, companies, platforms on this show. Okay? Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Who you ask? Okay? I'm gonna put the... I'm gonna literally, like, put the picture up in the comments, and then I'm gonna pin it up to the top. But when you say who, the shit that I saw today, these companies are crazy. Number one, you guys have heard me talk about the ThinkAgents like crazy. The alpha there, like I just mentioned on main space on the Collector Hub, is right now altered state machine. Okay? Unless you have never been to a Buildo or a Gex Excellent Adventure space, maybe you don't know what a brain is. Okay? But Altered State Machine is now going to be doing a conversion over to ThinkToken. There's a whole white paper on it in terms of what you want. This thing is a penny and 0.5 right now. Okay? Market cap of fucking peanuts compared to what they're doing. And, I own this token. I'm going to own a shit ton more of this token. I own brains, meaning the NFTs, the altered state machine brains on OpenSea that I bought literally this morning because of what I'm seeing. Guys, this stuff is going to change everything. Cool. The first thing I saw today was somebody put up a demo on the screen, a bored ape running through the metaverse, okay, with the user audibly talking, right, to the actual character, and the character was building things in real time... Three d assets in real time. Okay? This is now... Mind you, with a Bored Ape running around in real time that now has one of these altered state machine brains. So now you can jet... And now this AI, you can go back. There's no limits to, like, the compute. And when I say that is there's no limits to, like, oh, I can't remember. For those of you that are using OpenAI or Anthropic and having conversations, like, man. My shit doesn't remember anything. These dudes have solved this problem. And it matters because it doesn't matter in whatever medium you're going to be interacting with this, whether it's through your browser, whether it's through a three d character in the metaverse, this shit goes with you. You do not want OpenAI and the rest of these fucking monster conglomerates, okay, to be controlling your shit. And the alpha that they shared that's gonna be releasing very soon, and I'm told thirty to forty days in some way, shape, or form, you're gonna see something called souls. So the way in which they define this was they're actually going to have... Like, there's three different components to, like, your own personal AI agent. Cool, Landy. When I tell you, I literally watched on screen, one AI agent might... Let's say if it was my own, go out into a fucking marketplace of agents to be able to say, oh, I wanna find an agent that analyzes crypto. I wanna find an agent that essentially is able to execute trades. I wanna find an agent that can plan my trip. I wanna find an agent that can do this. It's an agent to agent marketplace that your agent, your own, can literally go shopping in and be able to then take all that information with you, not have to worry about memory, and go wherever the fuck you want. I know that's a lot of information. I'm going to pause. But the biggest thing right here before I go on to the next company is the... Right now, what is the altered state machine? Okay? Okay? ASTO, a s t 0, the altered state machine token is going to essentially be doing a conversion into the think token. These guys are the who's who in the decentralized AI world. I literally spoke to the creator of Venice AI and every single thing that they're doing on the VVV token, how they're using it, the APIs, and everything else. Guys, hear me when I say this. I'm not telling you go out, buy this, buy that. Put this shit on your radar because I promise you, it is going nowhere. Okay? But the basic that I want you to take away from just this piece that I gave you right now is decentralized artificial intelligence is where the future is going. The conglomerates are not going to... I mean, they're going to have a, obviously, a huge share. But these guys out here and these companies that I'm gonna literally rattle off and show you and that we're gonna feature next week are doing absolutely incredible things. So let me just take a pause there. Cool, Landy. Talk to me, man.
[0:15:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: Alright. So the... A couple of questions. So you've named two products already. You said v... Venus, v e n I c e? Is that the first one?
[0:15:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Venice? Yeah. So Venice is the VVV token. Do you... Cool. Do you remember that airdrop that I received on on the space? Yeah.
[0:15:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So that... That's one of them. Okay. What... And what... And the other one you said brains, the other one?
[0:15:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So the... No. So the other one is the altered state machine. Let me get you the exact symbol. Hold on one second. I think it's ASTO, a s t o, and they're... What they're gonna be doing is they're gonna be doing a conversion. Go read because altered... Yeah. A s t o, ASTO is that one. It's called altered state machine, and they also have corresponding NFTs that are that are on OpenSea that are going for, I think, about $250 right now that are gonna come with a think token allocation as well. These guy... These things have already been trading, but because of this whole transfer over, they're now weaved into the entire future verse ecosystem. And when I tell you, Kool, the amount of other companies that are like, we're not competing, it's literally a full AI tech stack that is fucking wild. So AASTO, a s t o, is currently trading at a penny and 0.5 with a fucking $12,000,000 market cap right now, which is fucking $35,000,000 FDV, which to me is wild. Wild. Yeah. And then... Sorry. The second one the second one was the VVV token, which is Venice AI. That's the fully decentralized artificial intelligent, like, AI model... LLM. So it's just like OpenAI, but you are in control of your data. It's not shared with anybody else. It is yours to own. It is not... Like, there's none of this, like... You know how Sam Altman obviously changed the entire infrastructure of OpenAI to become for profit? They're using all your data. This is not that. You buy the VVV token, you stake it, and they actually... If you stake the VVV token, they give you a certain allotment on a daily basis to be able to use their API. So the utility is absolutely massive. And, bro, this thing is picking up so much steam to the... The founder literally told me today... Told us today. We're in a group. He's like, hey. You guys gotta come to the island sometime. And we're like, what island? He's like, oh, yeah.
[0:17:29] Voice D: Like, I have an island.
[0:17:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, you have an island? Like like a Pablo Escobar type island? Like like, what what are we talking about? Like, yeah. I'm in. Sign me up. Great. Yeah. So VVV token for sure and altered state machine, which is the ASTO token, which is ultimately gonna make a conversion probably in the next thirty to forty days to the THINK token. Makes sense?
[0:17:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... This is the ASTO token that, like, launched, like, two or three years ago. Right?
[0:18:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Correct.
[0:18:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit. Let me go look. I think I have a lot of this.
[0:18:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm looking at a spreadsheet right now. Let me see. A s t o. Yep. Oh, yes. Okay. I know exactly what this is. I remember when they launched. Okay. This is cool. Alright. I'd... I'd had no idea that this was, even still around. This is really cool. I... This is exciting stuff. So with their their conversion to the think token, I'm assuming that they're going to, what, do, like, a burn and convert or a claim. Did they... Or they're gonna have details later. Right?
[0:18:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So it's actually in the white paper. I don't wanna give the details because might get it wrong, but those details are... Have already been released. When they're doing the actual conversion, I don't know. But, like, Landy, this is, like, the cool fucking special, bro. Look at where this thing was. 80¢. It's down 80... Almost 90%, bro, until, like, a penny and 0.5. Yeah.
[0:19:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. I'm I'm aware that it's down a lot, which means that I, I should probably get in there and average my my cost basis down. So... But I'm excited. This is this is exciting stuff because I didn't realize that, one, that they were still doing something with it. And then converting over to Think just just for the audiences, Think is, now the ThinkToken, that's not a live token just yet. That's... Isn't that part of... Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yo. Oh, man. This could be the... Wow. What a way to fucking do it. See, this is how it's done when something is like, oh, you know, it's down, hasn't quite recovered, but we're still working in the background. This is how you do shit. Okay. I'm starting to put it together. Very, very cool. Now I don't wanna say too much more because I found some stuff out from some friends as well that I suspect might have been at the same event. So, go ahead, Dave. That's that's awesome, awesome stuff. I'm excited about this, especially, bringing them on next week.
[0:20:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And I feel like all... Like, the whole future verse ecosystem, I'm so pissed off because Buildo and Gex have been trying to fucking tell us for fucking months and months and months, like, get involved, get involved, get involved. And I have and I have, like, I have some exposure, right, between all the different aspects. There's so much here. It is craziness how much, like like, gold there is in this ecosystem that is literally just... Like, it's waiting to be discovered. So cool. Did that make sense? Like, Asto token is gonna be doing a conversion over to STINK right now. ASTO, it hasn't done it yet. There is the white paper out there for sure. And then the VVV token, which is the Venice AI token, I think is gonna do gangbuster numbers. They're saying, bro, what they're seeing in terms of, like, their Discord activity, and they're adding more and more and more people because the decentralized AI narrative is not going anywhere, man.
[0:21:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. It's it's it's interesting. I've... Yeah. I've written everything down, bro. I'm... Because like I said, you you are at the belly of the beast right now. I need to get out of files, maybe if it is written down. Yeah. So definitely, like I said, well, bro, today's show is all about you, bro. Tell us everything about eat Denver, bro. So I'm here listening. Go ahead.
[0:21:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. What else do we got? Alright. So here's what's... I just saw Casey's space even though Dave just just the host of space. He's then has a vibe. Two bunnies and. These dumbasses. All I wanna do is go out and get drunk. I'm like, I'm trying to get rich out here. Fuck out of here. I gotta go fucking run ATC and fucking fill in the ATC peeps. These two are out here drinking like fucking fish. Get out of here. We got money to make. Okay. The the next one that I'm gonna talk about. I spoke with this... With both of these cofounders. Put this shit on your radar. It's called... Hold on. Let me just get the... There's no there's no token yet. I don't believe on this one. Nope. So Spheron. Okay? S p h e r o n. I'll put it in in the comments below. Hold on one second. I'll tag them. Spear on. There you go. So you guys can obviously just put this on your radar and obviously start following. I'll pin it up to the top as well. Again, remember, all of this... Okay? Every single thing that I'm putting here... Down here is for you guys to add to a watch list. Excuse me. And these are gonna be guests on the show next week. Alright? And they're all the central theme to everything that I'm talking about now, and we'll probably talk about for the next, like, half hour, forty minutes or so, is going to be around decentralized AI in some way, shape, or form. And what they do, I'm not gonna get into the details, the specifics, but, like, these are the who's who, and this is who was on the docket today speaking. And if you could have actually heard them speaking, the craziest part about all these guys is when I hear these guys talk, literally, I'm saying to myself, like, they, like, they talk as if, like, this is... It's, like, no big deal. And I'm like, nobody's excited out here. No. Like, am I the only fucking nerd that's, like, literally listening to this? But, like, nobody is excited because they're not excited. Next week on this show, I'm going to get them excited because we need to be excited because these opportunities are very few and far between. I'm telling you guys right now. So keep Sphere on two super humble guys what it is that they're building. So if I say to you guys programmable compute for autonomous agents at a fraction of the cost. Okay. What does that mean? Probably, like, Japanese to, like, 95% of the people. Right? Ultimately, what that means is your agents can essentially go and transact with a million other agents for literally nothing. That is not a thing. When you hear the word compute, that means for agents in order to transact the same way that we pay gas on a blockchain, compute isn't for the age... Is essentially the gas for each agent in order to be able to do this. And I am telling you, now the next one that I'm gonna tell you about, which is even crazier, is a combination of two things. So Spheron is one. David McDonald, which is obviously, like, for those that follow Futureverse, Aaron McDonald, and that whole McDonald team. Okay? What he built is even even more crazy with another gentleman by the name of David and something called Morpheus Network. Morpheus Network is literally building the stack so that you can have your own AI agent, alright, that can interact with any other agent, utilize any dataset on any layer on any blockchain. So you have full interoperability with your AI agent. Meaning, it doesn't matter if it's on Ethereum. It doesn't matter if it's on... You wanna transact on Solana. It doesn't matter if you wanna transact on fucking Algorand or Cardano. These AI agents need to be chain agnostic, and these guys genuinely get it. So I'm gonna put Morpheus in the bottom as well too for you guys to put on your radar. I'm... Guys, I'm literally just dumping all this shit out so, excuse me, so you guys can essentially just, like, put them to your watch list. Because if not, in about fifteen minutes, I'm probably gonna forget everything, because I have the memory of a goldfish. Yeah. Just ask Presley. She'll tell you I remember nothing at all. Okay. Morpheus AI. Done. Beautiful. Pinning that up. This guy, literally, just so y'all know, the guy that started Morpheus AIs was the guy that literally coined the term DApp. Landy, I shit you not. Decentralized application was coined by this guy, David. The humblest guys ever. I mean, ever.
[0:26:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: I swear we've talked to him before. Haven't we talked to him?
[0:26:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: We did on the WagMe Hub space. Do you remember?
[0:26:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit. Okay. You talked to him. I felt like I talked to him too at some point. That's... Wow. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? He did come into a different space and and... Where we were all on stage together. And I did, I was around for the WagMe Hub as well. That... That's big. So, like, the... Even just to come up with the concept and coin the phrase, it... It's... When people coin the phrase, it's because you've... You're you're pretty much the the one implementing the concept. So this is big stuff. And that's the Morpheus team now?
[0:27:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes, sir. Morpheus. Morpheus a... At Morpheus AIs. I pinned it to the... I put in the comments. I also pinned it to the top. The other thing you guys need to watch out for from this think team, I don't know when. I don't have a timeline. Believe you, Mia. I was fucking asking. Is there's... The the the whole souls thing that I was telling you about is going to be a token. But in order for that... I think in order for you to be eligible for that souls token, I think you need to be exposed to a lot of things in this future versus ecosystem. And I think Asto, Think, and everything else is gonna be the key to be able to kinda, like, lead to that. So I pinned that down as well. Let me see what else. Let me just look through my stuff. Let me look through here. Okay. Wait. I got one or two more that I wanna just dump out for you guys right now.
[0:28:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is just a pair of my fresh new Reeboks in between my Nike bag because I'm cool like that. So I could just post that. That's sweet. There you go. I like those green Reeboks. I bought those over the weekend.
[0:28:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: We've been moving on up. Okay.
[0:28:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then the last one is... Hold on. Oh, sorry. Two more things. Give me one second.
[0:28:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here is the layout. Beautiful. Okay. Render network. Y'all know about render network. If you don't, R and D are... It's one of the... I think it's probably, like, top, I think, 20 or 30 tokens, like, by... Maybe 30 or 40 tokens by, like, market cap. What they are doing is decentralized, AI decentralized, like, GPU or compute, which means if you're an artist or you're looking to obviously use these AIs, a lot of you guys are, like, limited. Right? So when you're generating images for those that were using, let's say, mid journey on Discord. Right? You create four at a time, but then it's like, man, it gets super, super cost intensive because maybe you don't get the right one that you want. You have to iterate and reiterate and reiterate. What they are doing with their new plat... Like, with Render's new platform is you can now render, like, images in real time by... In massive, massive size for literally cents on the dollar. From eight months ago, now you can genuinely use their services for, I think, said about 90% less. And the more time that goes on, like, AI costs to the actual end user are gonna continue to come down because of the competition that we're seeing. You guys have heard us talk about, like, DeepSeek, right, on here. Right? It was like, oh, but, you know, there's kinda like the censorship in there from the Chinese government. That's gone now. So when you see decentralized companies like DeepSeek and now with Venice really gonna start giving open a... Look. OpenAI has a 100,000,000 plus customers. Right? Like, it is what it... Users. It's not gonna rival that right now. But what these guys are saying is, look. We need to sound the alarm because at the end of the day, you need to own your own data. If you're here in web three, you're here for a reason. And the reason is you wanna be in charge of your own money. Right? I don't need a fucking bank anymore. I don't need to essentially, like, go through a bank. I don't need to let a bank essentially, like, use my money so that they can go make their own money and give me fucking point 1% interest just to having my money there. You get me? The same exact thing is going on right now in the artificial intelligence world, and it's happening really, really fast. And these are the gigabrains that are ultimately gonna be the ones to change the game. So you got VVV for Venice, which is doing incredible stuff. If you're a builder out here, I highly recommend go out, follow the Venice account. If you need an introduction to Eric and that team, I met them this morning. Incredible fucking guys in Eric and Kyle. Really, really stand up guys. You literally buy the token. You stake it. You get an allocated amount of compute on a daily basis to build whatever you want, and it's fully decentralized. There's no... There... There's no guardrails on it. Right? It is... Like, you use it for whatever you want. You can curse. You could scream. You could get... You wanna build apps that curse somebody. Go nuts. This is what this is about. So you got VVV. You have Spheron. Oh, the last one that I met was from the the Heurus team. Hold on. I'm gonna pin that also. Guys, I know I'm just literally dumping out here, but these are ones that you need to keep on your radar because I guarantee you, if they're not already, let's say, on the Kaito leaderboard, they're going to be there probably in the coming days and weeks, and they're funded by big, big money. Big money. Heurist AI, decentralized AI as a service. Think about that. Decentralized AI as a service cloud. And they already... Heurist already has a token. And the and the founder is super, super humble, nicest guy ever. He's like, yeah. I would love to join the space next week. So we're definitely gonna have them as well. So Hurist AI, I'm gonna put them down here. Hold on. H u r I s u t u r. K. There we go. So you guys can see that one. Let me see who else I got cooking out here. Here is... Okay. I think... So Huris, Spheron, VVV, David McDonald, Morpheus. Let me just go through the rest.
[0:33:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think... Wait. Wait. Wait. Prashant, Kevin, Denim. Oh, Wired is one more that I'm gonna put in the bottom as well. Wired is also doing some crazy things. I I barely even understood half the shit wired was doing, and I was like, how are you guys even doing this? But I didn't get there. But wired is another one. So I'm gonna put wired down there, and I'm gonna go get some water, take a breather because this is a lot. I know I'm a lot, but this is a lot. But you guys need to put this shit on your radar because I promise you, this is the shit for tomorrow. In four months from now, we're gonna come back, and we're gonna look and be like, oh my god. I remember when Dave Kuhl and Landy were talking about Spheron or URIS or this one or that one. I swear to you, this is this is the way. Just pay attention to what is right in front of you right now and where these trends are going. We spot these trends. I'm here on the ground so you guys don't have to be to be able to disseminate this information. But, yeah, let me go take a breather. But cool, Mandy, go for it, man, if you guys wanna chime in.
[0:34:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah, man. Joe, thanks, bro. I... I've written I've written a lot stuff down. Just to recap, if if you guys are listening, wanna write write down with me. The first project Dave was talking about is Venice VVV, three v's. The other one is Astro, a s t o, Alterstate. That... That's the name of it. The third one is Sofron, s p h e r o n f d m. The third one is Morpheus Morpheus AI. And the last one, said wired. Right? Is that it?
[0:34:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. I'm gonna go find the exact I'm gonna go find the exact Twitter handle right now because I don't want you guys mixing it up with one of the other ones. But, yeah, it's called Wired. They're the ones that essentially put on, like, the whole event. They're one of the main sponsors. But, yeah, let me go find the Twitter handle so you guys don't get confused. But, yes, you nailed them. Cool. Thank you.
[0:35:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah, man. This this is alpha. This is what I'm talking about, man. I mean, definitely, Dave Dave didn't have to do this. Some people could have kept all this effort to themselves and, you know, make money on their own, but this is really, really good information. I I've written everything down, definitely. So... I hope you guys have too. So, Lance, did you have any... Anything else to ask, Dave, or are you good?
[0:35:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, this this is stuff that I'm aware of, but but well outside of my wheelhouse of understanding. I mean, that's one of the main reasons why I've... Was coming here for so long as as a listener, right, is because there's been tons and tons and tons of stuff that Dave, yourself, and Nat Nat have talked about on this stage way ahead of time, like, before anybody even knew what the hell this this stuff was, and then all of a sudden it pops off. You know? And then, of course, you've also had a ton of other guests up on stage, that have also provided a lot of alpha way ahead of time. So I I I kinda want to, take just a moment and and kind of impart upon the audience my experience. Just by coming here when I was a listener before, coming up to speak and and Dave and Cool and Nat giving me a chance to do so, thank you so much. But the... I was listening to them and going and researching what it was that they were talking about as well as following all their posts. Like, I I I don't always get a chance to interact, but it crossed my timeline. I make a note of it. I I had... I maybe have to decrease how many monitors I have. I have too many damn monitors. But the the the big thing is is go and do your research research on this stuff because this is, like, early alpha on things that are in development often, networks that are upcoming, and projects that are that are just, you know, in the early stages or have have, just begun. Right? Like, in the case of, like, Venice AI, like, yeah, it's a it's a mature project. But in terms of the public perception, it's only been out for a month. Right? And then it had the token generation event and the claim and tons of people could claim. And, obviously, anytime there's a claim, price goes down, starts to normalize before it, you know, starts to take off again. This is really exciting stuff, and I really hope that everyone here is kinda taking notes. I mean, Dave, is... Has been kind enough to provide all of the links to some of these main accounts. And then there's more coming up. Obviously, cool just with the recap. Definitely check this stuff out. And I've... I have not been steered wrong in going and checking out this stuff. And, obviously, you're gonna find things that you jive with more than others. For me, this is this is a knowledge gap for me. And and I'm here just intensely listening, taking notes, going and researching this stuff because you can potentially make just absolute shit ton... Shit tons of money just by listening, paying attention, and getting in early. Everybody wants to be early to something. These these are the these are the times we have to pay attention. Listen. Especially on blood red days.
[0:38:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hell, yeah. Big facts. Guys, I'm trying to OCR the image at the top so that I can literally pull all of those protocols so that you can essentially add them all. My my picture isn't isn't the clearest, but I'm gonna see if I can maybe pull it off the website and and then then give you guys a fully, like, comprehensive list to be able to just kinda, like, go down to be able to see, like, what's what. Let me see if it did it. Oh, shit. It actually did it. Sweet. Okay. Hey. There we go. Okay. Here you go. I think it pulled a bunch, but, yeah, agents with agency. Oh, cool. I literally just left right before the Vanna team was speaking, bro, because I wanted to come and share this info, man. Fuck. They were one of the main... The Vanna team, they were one of the main sponsors over there too. So I know I know, bro. I know. I know. Know.
[0:39:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Fuck. Oh, hey. Guess what? Shout out to you guys for that one too because I got into... I I got into Vanna because of, cool talking about it at one point. And, yeah, you guys were discussing... This was a while ago at this point. And I don't know if anybody's looked, but that thing's been defying the entire market and just going Oh, no. Yeah.
[0:39:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's it's the... They announced they announced a c z... C z is now the... An adviser for that project, plus Binance Labs invested, god knows how much money into that shit, man, like, three days ago. And ever since then, that project is just defined everything. So, I mean, it's going to the freaking moon, man. So thank goodness I have couple of NFTs still, and I have my tokens. So I'm just kinda waiting on to the... You know, to see what CZ has. First of all, I've never seen CZ being any project adviser. Maybe he has in the past. I... I've I've seen it. So if he's an adviser for this project, I'm all in. Oh, for sure.
[0:40:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's exciting stuff.
[0:40:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: While I'm taking a breather, could we talk about fucking Kaito at all time highs? Pi token all time high. Pi token hit 3 fucking dollars today, boys. Yeah. $3. Yeah. Who's over here staking 7,000 Kaito? That shit's at fucking $2.40. That man's making hella money, bro.
[0:40:31] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Yeah. Did did
[0:40:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: you did
[0:40:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: you you...
[0:40:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: Did you have pie. Right? Did you sell your pie? Oh, hey. And the title
[0:40:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, bro. I did not sell my pie.
[0:40:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: I still don't know how to sell my pie.
[0:40:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. I don't have an exchange to send it to, so I'm just gonna hold that shit till it goes to $10.
[0:40:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Maybe by the time an exchange is available, hopefully,
[0:40:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: price
[0:40:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: will be up. Please, I'm praying because I have a lot of pie, and I'd like to realize some profits on my pie. That that, no ditty, by the way.
[0:41:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. The Kaito. Kaito. Kaito. I mean, I I kinda knew this. I knew this was gonna happen. I... I'm not surprised all the time. I I was yelling at my timeline, buy this shit. Take this shit. The reason is because I I I saw two things. The first thing was I saw Jesse. Actually, I mean I mean, a a... Excuse about this. Jesse from base, right, the lead dev, he got over a 100,000 tokens for, and he staked all of them. And when he staked it, made made that post, that post coming viral and other large holders of Kaito from the edge of... They staked all the tokens too. And that caused more people to start staking. And I guess the word with the word came out hours later, if you stake a 100% of your tokens, you get a a gold badge. I think if stake over 75% of of of what you receive in the edge, I would get a a silver brat... A silver silver badge. And there's... It's just basically... We don't know what the criteria is gonna be for season two, but Kai two has has found a way to tokenize attention. And as you guys realize, social media is all about attention, man. If you find a way to tokenize attention, it's fucking game over, man. That's the reason why I was like, yo. I am all in. I don't care. Because I saw... Look. The market cap of Kaito when I... We we we got a airdrop was 200,000,000. Now they're 500,000,000. That... To me, that's still undervalued, man, for for a a project that... All the projects are falling over themselves to get on on the other dashboard. This shit is no joke. Right? Attention is the name of the game with social media. The fact that these people found a way to to to to make money from this shit, to to reward you as a user, as a as a project. So the the projects get rewarded by by the attention they get from us. So Kaito is no joke. Like I said, look. I've been crypto for a bit. I've never... No. It's never. It's been a long time since I've seen Bitcoin crash and all the projects set an all time high that makes... What? Alt... If... And and not just Kaito, by the way, because I I... Guy, look. I... I'm so confused because Celestia's up 40 or the third... 20% against Bitcoin. But Verity's up 50% against Bitcoin. For for in of 45% against Bitcoin.
[0:43:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Story protocol, up 30 to 30. Yeah.
[0:43:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: So I'm like, what's going on? I don't... I... Bro, it's so weird because Bitcoin doesn't crash, and all coins are set to all time high. It's just the inside. I'm just... It's so weird, man. It's so weird.
[0:43:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: You remember what I told you my friend text me while I was on a space the other day? He said, as I was talking and I was explaining, like, you know, everybody's talking about alt season, and he text me on the side and said, it just simply said, with arrows, said Bitcoin season, no sleep season, crime season, alt season, and then, of course, we get a crime season at the very end, and then we go to a bear market. But that's not the point. We... We're we're ending... We're we're kinda... We're in that transitionary transitionary period between crime season and alt season, and and it's starting in a place that many didn't expect. And it's starting with new, innovative, awesome shit. Usually, those are the late runners, but we're kinda all goofed up in terms of timing of the cycle. Anyway, we've had a pretty extended crime season, so maybe that's maybe that's what's been going on. But I do suspect that we're probably seeing... We're probably staring at the etchings of alt season. I'll have more to report maybe later, this week on that. But, yeah, I I think that might be what's going on. Plus, this shit has real utility. Shit that has real utility can stand the test of time. It doesn't matter if it's bearable, doesn't matter. If it has a use case and can be used, like tokenizing attention and doing a lot of the really cool stuff in the AI sector because... Look. AI is big, and crypto is big. And by the way, just so everybody knows, still a bull market, still higher lows in the macro time frames, still higher highs. So don't worry too much.
[0:45:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Guys, like... And and and I want everybody to really genuinely... Like, if you're in this room right now, like, take take note. This is a much smaller room than we normally have, like, on ATC. Right? The majority of the people that usually come here are probably, like, are probably at these conferences, like, are probably in these panels, like, or or listening in, like, intently someplace somewhere. Right? Like, that... Like, I chose to be here, like, with you guys to be able to share this because there's so fucking much of it, and there's so much opportunity. So please don't take this for granted. Let me say what's up to fucking Peaches. Peaches, what's good, my bro? Long time no speak, man. How are you?
[0:46:06] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Man, I'm straight. I'm straight, man. I'm good. Jim, Jim, everyone. Can can you hear me?
[0:46:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes, sir. We got you, my bro.
[0:46:14] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Let's go. Let's go. What's up, Cook Crypto? Hey, yo, Landy. What's going on? Hey, guys. I've been fine now. Man, yeah, I need to check some medication. You know what it is, man. Hey, yo, Leo, man. So, man, I have a I have a question. I don't know if you guys know this project because I want to jump on it, but I need to... Like, I've done my research. Well, I'm not convinced a lot. You know, it is a centralized project. The project name is simple simple app, you know. But they have a they have a token called Symbicort. But they also have... They claim they have an ATM, you know, project also. Well, I don't really know even what you know about this project. Seems they are offering 12% API monthly on their platform. So I don't know if anyone here knows this project. I just want to be sure that this is a legit project. And so I I don't know if... And I can jump on it because they're offering good API... Monthly API. So I don't know if anyone here... Randy, if you know this project, say something about it. You know, let's go.
[0:47:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real quick, Peaches, before Randy goes, I'll tell you, anybody that's offering 12% APY or literally a 150% a... Like, lit... I mean, a 150% annual APY, you should definitely DM Presley. She's got a sweet a little Telegram dApp that you can mine XRP on for sure.
[0:47:34] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Very good. No.
[0:47:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm not... I've heard of it, Peaches, but I'm not... I've I've I've not looked into it thus far. My focus on APY earnings have been elsewhere as we'll... Hopefully, we'll see what happens with that. But, yeah, there... There's there's other things that I've been a little bit more focused on. Maybe we'll hear about it. Maybe we won't. We'll find out soon. But, yeah, unfortunately, I haven't heard of that one. If it is something that you want me to to to get some eyes on, go ahead and DM me.
[0:48:09] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Alright. Maybe I will just put these projects on the Jumbotron. You know, they are handles, so maybe you can check them out.
[0:48:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. Maybe just put it in the comments, Peaches, if that's okay.
[0:48:18] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Let's go, man. Put it in the comment.
[0:48:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No doubt. Appreciate you, bro.
[0:48:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: How about You got MSD?
[0:48:24] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: The lady, man? Dave, what about the lady? What's her name again? She good? What's her name? What's her name, man? Who? Damn, man.
[0:48:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Told me that you don't remember Nat Nat's name?
[0:48:37] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Not now, man.
[0:48:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nat Nat
[0:48:39] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: have been away for some time, man. That was a very good respect
[0:48:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: on Nat Nat's name right now, bro. You crazy. Something like that.
[0:48:47] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Man, how is she good kid, though?
[0:48:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: She's good, bro. She's good. She's good. You know, taking a little bit of family time, doing what she needs to do, getting herself healthy again. Like, she's good, man. I checked in with her the other day. She's doing alright, man. Appreciate you guys, brother.
[0:49:01] PEACHES®️ @PeachesHomes: Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. We
[0:49:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: got MSB that came up. MSB, what's cooking, my bro?
[0:49:08] Voice D: Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. How are you guys doing? It's been a while. I like your NFT, though. Cool. How are doing? Ali, I see you. I heard you guys talking about, you know, I was like, he doesn't know what's going on. Some set of projects are actually pumping, like, store protocol, barrel chain. Like, it's freaking crazy when the market was actually red, and this project actually tried to hold their trend. I don't know what's actually going on, but I I I was advising my my community, like, when when you have such airdrops like this, you need to understand when a project is building something solid. And at the same time, when when you want to sell your airdrop, just just try and reserve, like, 30% of it, you know, to serve the actual sort of... Like, I know a lot of people that sold off their Kaito. When I saw Kaito, was like, this is for a long term, and I get the bag and and look at today. I I I expect more potential to actually grow from here. That's what I see. You know? A lot of people don't don't have that foresight to see project that that that they are building for long term. You know? Look at story protocol. People flood it. They flood it down to even $1. I think that's scary. Okay. It's a $6 now. Kato went to $2 and $3 I expected for it to actually hit $5 very soon. Then bearishain, it has the potential to actually hit $10 So, you know, there's so much contraction going on in this in this ecosystem, these projects because of their products. Some people complain about Xeon. Xeon went from $8 down to about 0.9. I don't know what the heck is going on in the ecosystem, but it's kinda crazy when people staked, and you see your bag, you're stanking. And sometimes it's kinda scary when you think of you wanna try to stake. But let me look at the bright side. This
[0:51:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: is
[0:51:09] Voice D: a project that is actually sending signals to other projects out there that they need to, you know, look into their product and see what they are missing out from. Because, I mean, what the store protocol built, what the build, what the built is giving them that strong trend even when Bitcoin went down to about 88. You know? So it's it's crazy, and it's amazing.
[0:51:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: 100% agree with you.
[0:51:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. Big facts. Good stuff, MSB. Yeah. Go ahead. Cool.
[0:51:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No.
[0:51:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was
[0:51:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: gonna say, no. I definitely agree MSB, man. Definitely. Top top in the juice there. So with with e e damper, is it is it is it full? Is it similar to... I know you were in Singapore. Is this similar to the vibe in Singapore? Is it just... Is it just day one? Right? And, you know, you think you might get even more packs? What do you... What... What's what's the vibe like in in E... Denver?
[0:52:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: So so good question. Right? So when I... So this morning, I woke up. Right? Like, me and Bill over texting, and I'm like, hi. Yo. I'll meet you at I'll meet you at the Convention Center. Right? Thinking like, oh, we're get there. There's gonna be, like, Exhibit Hall, the whole nine yards, blah blah blah. We get there, and I'm on the way. I'm in the Uber, he's like, maybe it's just me. I don't know how this looks, but, like, this shit looks janky as fuck. And I'm like, what? What? What do you mean? And the e... Like, where the actual central component of East Denver is, for those that don't know, and I didn't know this before today, is, like, what East Denver is is it's a fucking... It's a hackathon. Right? Like, they put this stuff on so that they bring all of the crack devs from everywhere to be able to build some of the most... Like, the craziest, like, app... Like, apps and dApps that we've seen and that we're probably currently using today. So when we got there, it was like... It looked like it was like a state fair, and I was like, what is this shit? Shit? This looks kinda... This is a little bit janky. And I'm like, maybe this isn't where we wanna be because it was like, this is where the hackathon's gonna go. So we're like, alright. Let's just go to the other event. The action that happens at these conferences, I can't stress it enough, happens at the side events. I'm pissed I didn't get to go, like... I mean, I still can go right now, but I'm fucking dead tired already. Right? Like, to the, like, the... There's the BTC Denver event. There was the Shifi event, the Shifi Summit put on by, like, the stacks female... Like, the stacks web three ladies, which is amazing. But, like, it is a very, very different vibe. Token $20.49 was four floors in a massive fancy ass convention, obviously, in the Marina Bay Sands in Singapore, super fancy, the whole nine yards. But the the the action here happens at all of the different side events. So I have literally a... My Luma... Like, if you guys don't know the Luma app, definitely download the Luma app if you ever go to these events, even if you don't, just so you can see kinda, like, what's going on. But I very much plan on going... I have a full slate for the next three, four days leading, excuse me, leading up to the panel that I'm gonna be hosting on Saturday at my buddy Spiv's event, which, by the way, is gonna be sponsored by Ferrari. And I'm gonna be leading a panel talking with the the Somniac network and the Nilion team. Another... Like, like, two other massively up and coming, you know, privacy and and and decentralized AI companies as well. So, like, cool to answer the question. It might look a little weird here and there, but you gotta go find the side events and really network and put yourself out there to be able to really take advantage of these conferences. And if you don't know, go to as many as you possibly can. I get it. It's a little bit spread out. Shit is overlapping at different times. Find the shit that you're passionate about and go to those events. Definitely do it. Because for me, obviously, AI... Decentralized AI was a big thing for me. You guys heard me on the space a month and a half ago, how ecstatic I was when I got that VVV airdrop. It was crazy. One of the craziest airdrops ever. But now to see what people are genuinely building on it, I'm like, I need to figure this stuff out. And these are dudes that I'm talking to on spaces, and I see, like, a future, like, bringing these guys on Spaces. And I'll tell you all this, and I'm not gonna tell you how much more. But I got something cooking where I pitched this idea for, like like a... Like... So it's the ThinkToken. Right? I pitched Jesse on the idea of, like, ThinkMedia, where it's like they're part of something called the AI Institute. And I'll I'll go out and I'll get the link, and I'll post it for you guys. It's comprised of, like, 50 plus different, like, AI companies. These are the companies that you want to watch and that you wanna that you wanna follow. And I'm I'm thinking about doing a full on series, ATC involved as well, the whole nine yards, getting them on here, and getting as many as we can for them to come on here, tell us what it is that they're doing, give us the alpha, understand what they got going on, where they are in their whole life cycle, token wise, generation... Token generation wise or otherwise, doesn't really matter. Like, wanna know what they're doing because that's where you spot the opportunities. Never in my life did I have access to executives and builders like I do this and here and now. And to me, this is the most invaluable shit. I looked at Buildo today. Cool, Landy. And I said to myself... And I said to him, I said, bro, if we don't fucking get rich off of this shit, we are the dumbest motherfuckers out here because, like, we're literally sitting in front of the smartest gigabrains ever that are literally handing us the blueprint being, like, here, and, like, we're gonna say, nah. You have to be able to spot these opportunities and be able to take advantage of them. But it starts with doing this, like, following the stuff that you love. Don't follow other people. Don't follow it because I like it or Cool likes it or Landy likes it or MSB likes it. Follow it because you genuinely are curious about it, because you understand it, and because you want to learn more about it. That's what you need to do. If you're gonna look into these and be like, oh, Dave and Cool mentioned it. So I'm like, let me go buy it. No. You have to understand how this shit works because I'm passionate about it because I see that society is not going to be... The human race is not going to be the same in a year from now, in five years from now. The world as we know it is going to be a completely different place. So... Yeah. Cool. Everything is side events out here, bro. Every single thing.
[0:57:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I I I definitely... Thanks for advice, bro. Because, you know, I totally fine. I almost... I was planning a hotel stop for for Eat, Denver. My... I guess my family came down to visit, so I I I kinda have to put it to the side. So I appreciate I appreciate you for this advice. Because I think most people think going to conferences is just like one big event. So you're saying those side events, which makes sense because I did get a... An invite to the modular summits with Movement Labs and Celestia and the the roll up. It's like a like a seven hour event, man, which all the all the devs and builders and KOLs under the modulars ecosystem from Celestia to Austria, all the chain, all that's for the... All day right now. And it's like... It makes sense because though that event is is not in the actual main event, it's actually a side event. So that that makes sense. That makes sense, bro. That definitely makes sense.
[0:58:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. It's it's been... Is... And this is day one, guys. Literally, this is just day one. Like, I I don't even know. Like, my brain is probably not gonna be able to handle, like, the upcoming days that now I'm literally just, like, dated... I'm I'm dumping this here. Yeah. As much as I wanna say, like, I'm being the cool guy and, like, trying to share with you guys. I have to say this here because then I can go pull this transcript so I don't forget what the fuck I learned and everybody that I met because taking notes and and scanning QR codes and all this other shit is not easy. So if I dump it all out here, I get to then just go back and listen back. You'd be like, okay. Here's what I got cooking. But, yeah, man. Like, that's pretty much like the cap on day one. Who knows where the rest of the day is gonna take us? There's a happy hour that starts at 05:30, and that's where the networking happens. Right? So as much as I say, like, oh, I'm tired, whatever. In forty five minutes to an hour, once we're done here, I'm literally heading back out to the bar. I'm going to the happy hour, and I'm gonna fucking network with all of these dudes from this thing this afternoon to be able to be like, okay. What do you guys got cooking? Here's what I'm thinking. Can I get you on, like, my spaces? And let's talk a little bit more and figure out what you're doing. So, yeah, man. It's just... So seeing the opportunity.
[0:59:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: So so, Dave, what what what kind of advice can you get? Like, for example, maybe some people in this space when I listen to you and thinking, okay. I wanna go to a conference to have something to offer a project. How do you approach? Do you create a proposal in advance or not? How do you game plan approaching founders and devs when you do go to the conferences?
[1:00:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: So my easiest advice, right, like, if you... Let's say you're not a Spaces host or you're literally, like... You're just like somebody that, like, is is, like, a genuine fan of what they're building, right, and you wanna know, like, how to get involved, go up to them and tell them that you want to create content around every single thing that they're doing. Because by doing that, it's showing how selfless you are. You're pushing their cause forward. What are they gonna say? No. F you. I don't want you to create content. Hey. I wanna create content around everything that you're building because I think it's really cool. Can you help me and give me a couple of tips and pointers and tell me what you guys would recommend in order for this to be, like, really the most effective so that I can highlight this the right way? And maybe that starts off with, like, could we just get on a twenty minute discovery call so I can really learn more about you guys? Right? Like, get involved. If you're gonna put your money behind something, and I mean real money, like, doesn't cool doesn't stake 7,000 Kaito tokens on a fucking hunch. Do you understand? Cool stakes 7,000 Kaito tokens, right, because he sees and he's looking at the data in front of his face. He's seeing the mind share that Kaito has. This is directly from the horse's mouth. Imagine being able to sit down with the founder of Kaito and being like, hey. Can you tell me... Like, eight... Six months ago and being like, can you tell me... Not even six months ago, four months ago and being like, can you tell me what you guys have planned? And he's like, well, I think we've kind of figured out the whole attention economy thing with a few different algorithms, and we're gonna roll this out. And I think it's gonna be pretty successful because here's here's the numbers that we've currently seen. Like, right there. That's your alpha. That is... That information is alpha. That's it. When people say alpha alpha alpha, I used to hate that fucking word. I still do to a certain extent, but it's information that is going... Information and relationships are what you need to be cultivating out here, like, in order to get ahead. If you're not doing that and you're literally just waiting for the, like, the information to kinda come down your way, you're always gonna be late. Not to say you won't be successful, but the more aggressive you are in trying to figure out, hey. Let me just go talk to this person. And guys, they're human beings. They're the nicest, most humblest people. Every one of these guys are introverts. Every single one of them. They're the quietest guys. David McDonald, one of the most genius minds in decentralized AI, like, probably worth tens of millions of dollars. Literally, the humblest dude on stage with the jeans, t shirt, raggedy ass sneakers, just chilling. You guys have heard us say this all the fucking time. It's not the guys that are walking around with the Rolexes on and flashing this and showing up in this car, that car. It's these other guys that are so heads down focused on obsessing over the shit that they're building that you need to be following and talking to. And I walk over to every one of them, and I'm like, hey, man. Amazing talk. I introduced myself. I'm like, I'm David. It's good to meet you. He's like, yeah, man. I'm like, listen. I've spoken to your brother. I've had him on a lot of different future verse spaces. I'm I'm still learning about it. I love everything you guys are doing. Would it be cool, like, you know, if you... If if if you came on the space at some point next week, you know, I run this kind of four days a week, and he was like, what day? And I was like, you pick a day. Monday through Thursday, I was like, typically, we run at 05:30 to seven. I get it. You're in New Zealand. We'll make whatever we need to make work. And he was like, no. No. I'll figure it out. He's like, no problem, man. Now I have a monster fucking group chat, cool, Landy, that I'm gonna be adding you guys to literally once I'm done curating by the end of today that is gonna have every single one of these founders on there that we're going to now coordinate the schedule for next week for ATC. All from what? Me opening my mouth and being like, hey. Great fucking job up there. I'm Dave. It's good to meet you. Just get out there and do it, guys, for real. That's how you make money out. The opportunity out here is insane. It's insane. And I can't stress it enough. If you can't hear it from me, I don't know how else you're gonna hear it, but, like, you guys hear the excitement, like, in my voice. I don't get excited about a lot of things, but this shit really fucking gets me amped because, seriously, this is where you get to make the generational wealth is by meeting people like this, understanding what they're doing and what they're building, and being able to execute and and take some action when you see the AASTO token at a penny and 0.5. When I'm looking at these guys being like, this thing at 30,000,000? When I see the Venice AI token that went to fucking $2,000,000,000 upon their TGE that is still sitting above half of... Like, almost $500,000,000 market cap, these other guys that are working in tandem with them, and this thing's at a penny and 0.5 barely at a $12,000,000 market cap, fuck the FDV. Are you kidding? This is where, like, this shit happens. So good stuff, man. Cool. Appreciate the questions. Keep asking them because, yeah, like, my my brain is just kinda all over the place right now. It's just in awe.
[1:05:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm I'm excited for this. One, because, every event that that has been occurring over the past few years has been incredibly productive. In years past, it was more hangout and party and mingle. And now that there is, a lot of excitement even though we're not feeling it in terms of price in crypto markets, a lot of people are excited to build again. And and a lot of people during these time periods when price action is down just get right back to building. And with an event that... Where we aren't going into an event where price is just pumping, pumping, pumping, and that takes over the narrative, When you have events that... When price is actually down, the market's cooling off, it actually is a really good environment to do exactly what Dave is doing. And then I'm excited for for you personally because you're meeting all of these people, and those... That relationship building is fucking powerful. It is so, so powerful. I I... Like, cool. I actually was going to try to go to eat Denver, but I also had some family stuff, that, came up and was unable to go. So I'm glad that that you're there. I'm glad I've got a few other friends that are there because I'm hearing just positive, positive, positive. In years past, when price has been up and and everybody's kind of, like, chomping at the bit for what's going on, it it... It's been less productive and more focused on number go up and what the potential money could be made on the other side when it's way more advantageous to be learning about this stuff when the market is down. Because then you get good entries, you form good relationships, and you get to watch the progress that these builders are making. And I see a builder on stage here. He has no name, but, I I think I know who it is. What's up, Zeno?
[1:07:30] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Why would you use my real name? You know I redacted my usernames that people couldn't find me.
[1:07:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's... Yeah. They can't, they can't mouse over your, profile picture.
[1:07:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Because I blocked all
[1:07:39] Sunny D @dylN0chill: of them. If anyone clicks on my name, if anyone clicks on my profile in here, they're gonna find out I blocked them.
[1:07:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes.
[1:07:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real.
[1:07:53] Sunny D @dylN0chill: We... I've signed up for so many goddamn AI meetups at East Denver. Dave, are we gonna see you at some of these?
[1:08:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. I was... I literally just left the Meow Wolf on the decentralized AI day to come back and kinda run this space. But, yeah, I'm trying to go to as many as possible, man. Like, I'd love to meet up.
[1:08:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I bet you I bet you guys would have fun. Just saying. Getting to know both of you over over the past few months, especially, I think you both would have a have a good time.
[1:08:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Zino, which which ones are you going to? Like, what... What's on the stat... What's on the agenda for, like, tomorrow and the next day? Any any any ones you recommend?
[1:08:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: He might be rugging. I just see his microphone unmuted.
[1:08:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. I don't know what's happening. I can't hear him. But, yes, you know, hit me up in the DMs, man. I I would love to chat and, like like, let me know exactly, like, like, which ones you're going to, bro. I would love to link up. Like, this is what this shit's about, man. Like, I wanna network with everyone and anyone, dude. Yeah, man. Landy, cool. That's... That... I know it was a lot. That's all I got after seventy minutes
[1:09:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: of just me. Yo, dude. You're cooking. You're cooking, brother. Now this is this is amazing information. Like I had just said a little bit earlier, just make sure everybody in the audience pay attention and definitely excited about, about us learning more next week too. And then, obviously, there's gonna be way more throughout the rest of this week. What day... What... How long are you staying there, Dave?
[1:09:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I'm here until... I fly out Monday. So I'm here for the week, man. You know? Like, there's so many different events that I was just like, I can't miss it. And, obviously, Saturday is a big day. It's gonna be my, like, my first panel that I'm moderating, so I'm super psyched about that.
[1:09:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's awesome.
[1:09:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. Yeah.
[1:09:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's that's awesome stuff, man. Like, and and you're pretty much staying right through the end. So you are gonna be filled to the brim with information, and it's probably gonna take you a while to not only sift through all the information, but, but but figure out how to actually, like, collate it in a in a logical manner for yourself because this is just day one. So
[1:10:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I literally... I requested a late checkout next Monday because next Monday, I have... Literally, we're doing crypto magic hour followed by behind the stacks and then ATC. I'm thinking I might need to change my flight to Tuesday and just extend one more day because I don't know how the fuck I'm gonna be able to pull that off because I don't wanna cancel any of them because there's probably gonna be so much info to be able to share that, like, I can't... I'm not gonna be able to wait to get on, like, the livestream and, obviously, I'm here with you guys. Yeah. So... Yeah.
[1:10:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Well, I mean, it's exciting. We we only get these events so many times a year. I know there is more, but this is one of the bigger ones in in The United States for... I know there is events that are going on overseas. But for us here in The United States, this is this is the one. Right? And it's, I think, coming at the perfect time. So, awesome stuff, Dave. Really appreciate you bringing that to us. And I know I've been watching Cool. And by the way, I've been watching Cool while while you've been away. I've been watching Cool and Samara cooking on the timeline. Like, if if, if folks in the audience aren't paying attention, make sure you have them on notifications because they're absolutely cooking. I'm, like, I'm trying to do stuff, then I'm looking over it. I'm like, oh, shit. I forgot about that. I gotta go check. Like, it's a it's a... One of those. Like, I'm literally like, squirrel. Squirrel. Squirrel. So... Yeah.
[1:11:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tons of Cool. Yeah. Where does Cool find the time, Landy? Cool. Where the fuck? Like, you're literally tweeting every seventeen minutes, bro. I'm convinced you have, like, a minion of fuck... Like, a minion No. No. Somewhere in the basement.
[1:11:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's it's on me. It's on me. It's on me. So so I I... There's a lot going on in crypto right now. I... A lot. And that's why people get it confused because if you have the right information, you realize that we're not in a bear market, guys. The money is... We just had that. It's a Bitwise raised, like, almost a 100,000,000, and, like, projects galore, raising money galore. All those projects you see on Kaito, every single one of them has raised money. If you combine what they've raised, probably over 2,000,000,000 or more. That is... That... That's just the ones on the Kiteo leaderboard. So there's so much going on. I I can't be everywhere. Right? I try my best. The re... Okay. So so the reason why I'm I'm this active on Twitter now is because I... You you have to be because I think what's happening now is projects are using Kiteo to reward loyal users. I got a DM today from... I'm not gonna say the project, though. I got I got a DM today. I got... I I don't think they want me... Want people to know. So I don't know. Whatever. They didn't announce it yet. So I I got a DM today from this project, and I've been talking about them for almost two years, man, just for free. No no paid content. Not just made content because I I believe in it. They they they had a $1,000,000,000 evaluation project. They raised up $5,060,000,000. And they sent me a DMS. Hey. We selected you, man. Hey. Because we we see that you've been talking about our project for a long time, and we we... You you commence our free NFC. That project is gonna come out with a massive airdrop and reward. I'm sure reward the holders of this NFC a massive reward. So I I guess it's just the game has changed so much in 2025 and and further that I feel like these projects are are finding ways to reward loyal users. For example, Monad. Monad gave people test nets. So if you were able to flip flip your test nets, you could have bought some NFTs. I'm sorry. You would have minted some free NFTs on test nets. Right? If you minted those NFTs, it guarantees you a whitelist spot. On the NFT, it's probably gonna be $404,100 floor price for for for... Or Monet. Like, it's it's crazy now. What's what's what's happening? So my brain is not thinking, look. I need to be more active on Twitter, which which I've been I've been for a long time. But plus, of course, following Samara, following all these people, Wendy, Joshi with MSB here. So when they pre stuff... And my timeline my timeline, I follow a lot of people that actually give value. Like, every person I follow, mostly, probably 90% of them actually provide value. So my my timeline is fucking filled filled with shit. Like, I... There's no data you're not busy. Like I said, you can't do everything, but that's why I post because I don't have a Discord group. I don't have a Telegram group. So I post everything for you guys to to benefit from it, man. I want you guys to make money, so I post everything I do online. One of them right now that I I see guys should look at, which is crazy, is called is called Hapi. So strange. This project is backed by Coinbase and open... OpenSea. They raised, like, millions of god knows. It's so simple. It's even free. All you do is just scan. It... You scan your your your your wallet, your EVM wallet, and it rewards you with points. You scan every day, and they've been on for a long time. And I... I'm not even showing when AirDrop is coming. They go not to AirDrop. Right? All this stuff is on my page. If you follow me, it's there. There's another one again called 337375.ai. Also raised, like, $15.20 mil, I think. That one is actually running right now on my phone. It it it it tracks Wi Fi... Or or, I'm sorry, four g signals around you. So when I'm driving or my wife driving or whatever, it's it's mapping different signals and you're earning points on test nets. And these points we converted to... It's... Guys, there's so much going on. This is why I keep telling you guys, if you if you if you want the alphas, it is there in front of you. Either you follow the right people or just go to Kaito dashboard. Look for the talk... For the projects that don't have a token and just start interacting on them, man. And that's it. But, yeah, I I try try, man. It's just... It it... This market is so entertain... I don't watch guys. I I don't watch TV anymore, man. I don't watch news. My life is crypto now, man. I fucking love this shit. So that's why I said when when... Whenever you've seen alpha, just do it. Because I'll say, look. This is gonna be a story I'll tell forever. We had a guest here, and I don't say his name. He came. He was bashing me or bashing me, bashing Dave for. He was our. I don't wanna be yapping, blah blah blah, just talking all that shit. Like, just imagine if if we had listened to him. Imagine, oh, you know, fuck that. Fuck doing that shit. Do do shit garbage. Bro, just do it in front of you, man. But but now getting all this money from Kaito, bro, I didn't... It was for free.
[1:17:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't do any good for the shit. I didn't do...
[1:17:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: I did nothing, man. So what I'm saying is whenever you see an offer in front of you, just do it, man. Just do it. And as you are so bright, your hands are raised. I know you got an answer, but very well. Glenn.
[1:17:39] Voice D: Yeah. Yeah. It's regarding the Kite tool because the interesting thing about about it is that when I check... Checked it, a lot of people act... Of course, people backlash what they don't know, and that's that's a fact. So I had to take my time and study and know how I could go about it. And when I got in there, I saw a whole lot of KOLs, influencers, project founders. I'm like, oh, this shit is real. But guess what? What I would like to say is that aside from my major account, and I I think to some persons, I don't think you know this. If you check your Twitter account, try and connect it, you actually might get a reward from Kaito. Because when I actually connected my other two accounts, I actually got Kaito as well, and that was wild, aside from my major account. So so that... That's that's a pro tip for you to go to go and check your other x account as well if you actually got a drop from Kaito. And it was really, really interesting.
[1:18:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. MSB, you mean your alt accounts?
[1:18:44] Voice D: Yes. I did. I got it.
[1:18:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Oh, shit. Your alt accounts
[1:18:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: are eligible.
[1:18:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. My alt accounts, including a sock filled with moisture, had more yaps, than my main account. So, I actually... I didn't get nearly as many, points because I have more followers on this account. But the the the Kaito AirDrop, I was originally... Like, I think I was here. Right? Wasn't I here when I checked it? And I was like, oh my god. Wait. I have an AirDrop even though it says I have zero yaps. And then the screen updated and showed me that I had, I was getting credit for smart followers, and I... Apparently, I did have Yaps. It was just a UI bug. I went and I did that with my other accounts, various accounts that I have. Every single one of them had an AirDrop. And the the reason why is because prior to the token generation event, I was listening, to the same person, as this was being talked about on stage, and there was a little bit of contention back and forth about it. And I said, you know what? It's free. Why... All I'm doing is giving up the the... I'm authorizing it to connect to to x. I'm literally doing nothing. This is no work at all. I might as well do it. And I was rewarded for doing that in a very substantial way that I was not expecting. So that's one of the reasons why that day I went to every space after this, and I was like, hey. Even if it says you have zero yaps, connect and see if you have an AirDrop to claim. And, you know, some people, didn't, and that's because they hadn't connected prior to the token generation event. But if they had connected at any point prior, didn't matter. They had been collecting, smart follower... Tokens for smart followers, yaps that they didn't even know about just by mentioning things. So very, very cool stuff. And you can't lose. There's so much of this out there, and and it goes unnoticed unless you're paying attention to Dave, Cool, Nat, Samara, I I think Alpha Gamer, then there's all kinds of cool shit all the time. I mean, you've had Buildo on stage. You've had Viper on stage. You've had... Shit. You've had, another, a friend that comes through often here as, and definitely on Sundays. Right? With the reset, we know what what Brad was doing. Like, there's alpha all the time, and there's opportunity all around us. But often, we get hyper fixated on, what's the price of this thing? What's going on in this one ecosystem? When you really have to just broaden your vision and and just go out there, do the free shit. Like, why... Who cares? Like, it's literally free. Do do the free shit, and you'll be rewarded. Some stuff won't, but by and large, I've been shocked at the amount of rewards that I've been able to get just since trying it because for a long time, I didn't consider it. I was like, no. I'm a trader. I'm gonna go trade the charts. I make a ton of money there. Why would I spend my time doing this? But most of the time, it's literally just a few clicks while I'm trading, and then it's just extra money. It's amazing. It feels like a cheat code, to be honest.
[1:21:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. What was crazy, they said about 70% of the Kite tokens are still unclaimed. Crazy.
[1:22:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's because people haven't connected.
[1:22:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: And you know who's gonna get those? When the when the claim period is up on March 22? Stickers. Yep. You're fucking looking at them.
[1:22:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yep. I staked everything. I didn't even sell any for the Kaito.
[1:22:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys, real quick. I got some addition... Two additional pieces of alpha, just in the last couple minutes. Guys, commented on my shit. So, shout out to my man, Loco, who literally called this forever ago. For anybody in here that plays Dungeons and Dragons or that has ever played, like, these games, right, there's something called the game master. And when you add a... And what Loco put what Loco put me on to was ultimately, a game master that is essentially was always a real person that had to ultimately, like, be changing the storylines. You had to be in charge of everything. Now when you have AI, you can do this so seamlessly. And there was a guy that came and presented on stage because he was building using Think, and there's a 5,000 reward. This account just got started. They rolled this game out five hours ago, guys. Excuse me. I pinned it to the top. Go take advantage. If you're a if you're a game player, go take advantage of this. Take a look at it. There is money at stake and on the line right now, and it's only the... I think he said that there's only five players that can take advantage, like, at a time. And I don't know how many rounds they say they're gonna have, but if you're a player, go get involved. The other thing is I had somebody reply to my tweet of the picture when I said souls. Do you guys remember that? S o u l s. Right? The think team is putting together all of these agents, and a part of them is essentially gonna be your soul. He literally put up the, what's it called, the link to, what's it called, to, to to the website, to the soul's website. I pinned it to the top. Go read up on it. This is where you're gonna get your alpha. See, now we have the actual founders, right, and the contributors and the team members replying to my tweets. This is what you want. When you see shit like this happening, not only should you go follow the... Not... Go check out that website, now go follow the guy that literally retweeted or commented on my shit because that's where you're gonna find even more alpha. So this is what I mean. This is a domino effect. We're creating our own little flywheel over here, guys. Our own little fucking alpha flywheel. Oh my god. I just coined that term. I like that. Let's go. Yeah, man. Guys, this was fucking amazing. I don't know if y'all have anything to add before we close out, but this was a fucking dope space. Thank you for letting me spew for so fucking long. I genuinely needed to do it just so I can get it out and hopefully just, you know, people are are are that much the wiser and they appreciate it, but I know that you guys definitely on stage too. So I appreciate you obviously, like, letting me come and just kinda just data and info dump on here, man.
[1:25:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just letting you letting you come to your own show and info dump. Yeah. You're welcome, Dave. Glad glad you could come on through.
[1:25:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. But I know it's annoying. I know it's annoying. You know what I mean? No, dude. Talking for so long.
[1:25:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. This is this is straight up alpha, and and I gotta... You know, for for myself and and the audience here, I gotta thank you and cool, and and thank you to Nat Nat. We'll see her, hopefully soon. Like, you guys are always bringing it every single Monday through Thursday, and I gain a ton from it. So I'm gonna thank you on my behalf and the audience's behalf, and I wanna thank everybody here, also for hanging out with us. It it... It's... They... A lot of people are in, at Eat Denver. So, I've even looking at a few profiles that I know are in Eat Denver. So very, very cool stuff.
[1:25:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. Cool. Appreciate you guys. Cool starting to stream in, probably three minutes. Make sure to go check that out. MSB, I appreciate you obviously coming up. Shout out to Peaches and to everybody, like, listening. And, guys, just wait wait till you wait till you hear Landy and fucking Cool's reaction tomorrow after I put them into this fucking thread with these movers and shakers and what we're gonna come with, man. Next week, ATC is going to be absolute fucking fire, But you guys are gonna get all of the live stuff, anything that I'm that I'm interacting with, anybody I'm interacting with, and any alpha that I'm getting here, you have my word. I will come back here, and this is going to be the place where I share all of it. So cool, Landy. I appreciate you guys. MSP, thanks. And to everybody that was listening, Yo, Vibe, I see you. Thank you, Vincent, Coma, LJ Dev, d riot as always, the real uncommon podcast crew. Tommy, boy, Rambo. What's good, baby? Nah, Augustus, Stars, Lavitz, and everybody else, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And we will see y'all next week. See y'all tomorrow. Peace.

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