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Episode · Apr 9, 2025

All Things Crypto: The Bitcoin Era of Prosperity!

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The space opened with high-energy discussion on the explosive pace of AI innovation, with Dave @DCBK2LA sharing his obsessive experimentation with tools like GPT-4o, Genspark, Firebase, and agentic workflows that enabled him to rapidly build an AI influencer named Aria Chen. Speakers celebrated the sudden $3.5T+ influx into markets following tariff pauses, with strong conviction that this is only the beginning of capital rotating into crypto. Landy @CryptoLandy delivered a detailed macro breakdown of the recent six-sigma deleveraging event, forced selling, and the engineered 90-day negotiation window aligning with potential Fed rate cuts, framing it as a strategic move against banks. The group explored the intersection of AI and blockchain as a necessary truth layer for an increasingly synthetic content world, the importance of deregulation for innovation, and cybersecurity best practices after Gamer detailed his harrowing experience with an unauthorized phone number port transfer. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

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DaveKoolLandyBreadKkomaAlphaGamerSunny DTravMetaBeast
Chapters
Dave wins $100 pitch contest on Hedera using GPT
Rapid AI tool experimentation and addiction
Genspark, Softgen exit, and new AI tools discovered overnight
Google Firebase replacing Replit, Cursor, and Bolt for no-code builders
Building an AI influencer (Aria Chen) with autonomous account creation and content
$3.5T+ liquidity surge and market reaction to tariff pause
Trump’s strategy against China, conviction in execution, and expected volatility
Six-sigma deleveraging event, forced selling, and mean reversion analysis
90-day tariff pause, Fed rate cut timing, and banks put on notice
Deregulation as fuel for crypto and AI innovation, lessons from Bitcoin’s unregulated growth
Need for blockchain as a truth layer due to AI-generated content explosion
Mikey on AI agents, interoperability, and blockchain as the standard of truth
Cybersecurity lessons from unauthorized phone port transfer and importance of authenticator apps
Metaverse Fashion Week in Decentraland and agent bullying discussion
Transcript
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# All Things Crypto: The Bitcoin Era of Prosperity! | 2025-04-09 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1YqKDZlDNBwJV | status: approved
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[0:00:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry, boys. My bad. What's up? What's up? What's up?
[0:00:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I was just too busy, you know, today basking in all my gains. Won a $100 from, like, a pitch contest that I didn't even know I was gonna be in, that I literally GPT for three minutes, and that how... Money out here, guys. Free money. You guys need some... You need a little spare change. You go on over to Hedera. They got a little sprinkle, little... They could bless us with a little bit of money. They blessed me with a $100. You know? There's another competition going on, I think, tomorrow maybe. Just go in there a little little GPT action. Make it nice. Done and done. You're welcome. Wait. Let me just make sure. Canter's out of here. Okay. Sweet. I was gonna like, whoo. That would've sucked if Canter would've been in here. Alright. While Cool and Landy aren't here... Guys, this AI shit is sucking the life out of me. I don't know what's... Dude, I don't know what I'm doing, d. I'm losing control, bro.
[0:01:45] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I was just on the phone with Trav right now, and, like, I... I'm pretty sure I just did, like, a forty five minute monologue about all the crazy shit that's happening on AI. A lot of it, I blame you because you've just been, like, giving out all these amazing tools to use, and I've just been, like, quietly sitting in the back trying them all out. And it's... Dude, I'm now completely hooked. Like
[0:02:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can't take that. I can't I can't I can't bear that right now. Okay? I just can't do that right now. So please don't put that on me. I can't. Not right now, man. I got two I got two fucking AIs going at the same... Three... Four. I got GPT four o creating images, slow as shit. I got Genspark going for fucking ten years creating me some of the dopest fucking PDF content I've ever seen. And then I got Softgen who, by the way, got sold after they started the company with $20 fucking two months ago, got it over 600 k in two fucking months in annual recurring revenue and fucking did the hightail. See you. They probably made out with a fucking... A cool couple million. You know? And And then then at the same time, I I discovered these two other tools overnight last night, which prevented me from actually getting a decent night's sleep or any sleep for that matter, I'm being honest. But, like, guys
[0:03:06] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Bro, you were up at, like, almost 4AM this morning.
[0:03:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I woke up, and I saw you going out. I was like, shit. You beat me up. Bro, I'm... I I can't... I'm not kidding, bro. When my mind zeros in on something, I I don't know how to stop. And the only thing that stops me is when I run out of credits, and I have to, like, break the, like, I have to break the matrix and be like, oh, I have to go get my credit card. I gotta go get 20 more bucks for 10,000 more credits. Like, literally, that's what I'm doing. But, dude, I'm not... I'm tired of talking about it. I'm starting in a... I'm starting in an AI space. We need an AI space, like, interactive, like, Intune AI space for what the fuck is going on out here. Because, bro, we were saying two days ago, three days ago, four days ago was menace. Like, two days ago was soft gen, and now it's now it's GenSpark. Now it's something completely different. Like, there's too much out here, and it's moving too fast. And, like, I mean, I'm not even saying it to be like, we gotta keep people abreast of what's going on. No. I just wanna be fucking kept abreast of what's going on. I just wanna play with this shit because it's just so fucking cool.
[0:04:14] Sunny D @dylN0chill: You know what? I tried the the agent hat, like, call. Like, you can tell it, you know, go book this whatever. You were talking about it. It literally fucking works. It
[0:04:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: it... Yeah. Oh, bro. Dee. Sonny, Dee. What what people are realizing today all over the timeline, right, is essentially what I tried to get out of the vibe coding space that Brad was trying to fucking keep alive with CPR, but... Because everyone else fucking torpedoed it The... Like, last week was essentially what Google Firebase all over your timeline today means is goodbye Replit, goodbye Cursor, goodbye Bolt, goodbye... All that shit's gonna... Well, like, the the the average layman, like, schmucks like me that have no idea how to fucking code, that just have to click a couple of buttons, and now I've authenticated, signed in with Google, my database is set up, and everything is fucking looking Gucci, and all I gotta do is just type some words into a machine, and now it all of a sudden starts coding it, and then I can visually see those things come to life. Yeah. Like, you're gonna see some people build some crazy things, Like... And I mean crazy things because, bro, just in the last twenty four fucking hours, I built an AI influencer. Name is Aria. I don't know why they chose her to be a sustainable tech influencer. I don't even know what sustainable tech fucking is, but that's what she is. She's cute as hell too. Aria Chen. Everybody relax. Okay? Take it easy. I'll put the pictures out in a little bit. But, yeah, like like, AI influencer, full content plan for the next twenty four hours. I use fucking g p t four o... Or excuse me. G p t OpenAI operator, like, that... Literally, I'm watching it on the browser. Create the Google email account, then use that email account to go create the Instagram account, then create the TikTok account, then and set up the TikTok account, and then go to post on TikTok, and then go... Bro, all this shit you see on the timeline where I was like, these motherfuckers ain't really real. It's like, I made $5,000 off of faceless YouTube. You know what? Now is the time. This is the time that you genuinely can start doing this shit, and you can do it for cheap, and you can... Bro, it is... It's insane. But... Yeah. I I know I get on these AI kicks. Meanwhile, fucking Bitcoin's going through the roof, and, like, we're literally fucking crypto's flying. It's with some of bipolar friends. But, Brad, what's good before I say what's up to cool? What up, bro?
[0:06:37] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo. So... Yeah. GM. And I got... What... Give me, like, the quick, like, thirty second TLDR on this file. I've been I've been working all morning and, like, I checked my DMs and, like, a bunch of people have sent me this Firebase, like, different, like, posts and, like, some of the team members and, like, the fucking Telegram and the Slack channels are like, bro, did you see this? And I haven't had to, like, I'm gonna look into it later for sure, but this many people sending
[0:07:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: it to point, Brad? TLC. Just know this. All it is, bro, it literally is... It's your database. You authenticate everything. You integrate the APIs. It's all browser based as well too. So cloud and and everything else is built within the browser. Bro, it's the simplest shit ever. There's no more janky cut and paste from here. Use this. Bring it over there. Everything gets done. This is why I love Softgen, bro, because everything was done prepackaged beautiful in one fucking place. I literally go to my my website now, the Web three collective. I'll... It shows Firebase connected, has my GitHub repo, environment variables, project settings. Very simple. I need to push out any updates. I change it right here within fucking Softgen. I hit publish. I connected my freaking... I hosted my thing for free on... My domain on Versal. Done and done, bro. I'm chilling.
[0:07:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: Does does the Firebase, does it actually output code, or is it just like,
[0:07:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: all your back end.
[0:07:56] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, it's all the back end shit.
[0:07:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's it's essentially... What was the name that he... That my buddy told me yesterday? What was the thing... Parse that... He was like, Parse used to be essentially what everyone used to use to build mobile, like, applications. Right? Now it's not just websites. You need to... Like, when you have this back end stuff, you now have full on, like, applications. So everything from real time database, Firestore database, cloud database, authentication, data connections, extensions, functions, hosting, machine. Bro, Firebase has everything. Literally, Google is going... Google is out here taking over. Like, 2.5 for free for everybody for that little bit. Now you could still get it, by the way, for free in in the Google AI studio for those that don't know. And now you put Firebase to this shit. Bro, there's four new tools that sprouted up overnight that now have fire... Like, that are now already integrated with Firebase. Softgen literally sold their business, Brad. They fucking started this thing two months ago with $20. They got up to $600,000 in ARR, bro. They were like, fuck it. I'm gone. And we're gonna see the VC landscape change, guys. I'm telling you right now. I was reading about this yesterday. You are going to see a lot more VCs be more hands on because they realize the tech out here, like, people are gonna build some insane fucking things, and it's not just gonna be what's the next valuation. Right? Like, oh, we raised at this level. Now it's like, you gotta wait till the next round, like, to see... No. No. No. These guys are writing sizable checks. They're, like... Because there's too much going on, like, with AI right now. Like... And there's probably not not even enough money to genuinely go around to be able to cover this stuff. But if you have any cool ideas, I'm telling you, people are giving out fucking money. Like, I'm telling you they're giving out money. And by the way, Brett, I shouted out. Somebody came up in the spade in that pitch space yesterday where I won a $100 in... On the Hedera on the Hedera space. I literally pitched them some crazy idea that I GPT'd, like, two minutes right before. I didn't know if they wanted me to pitch. And one of the guys... Part of his pitch was, you know, we wanna get some sports data. You know what I mean? Like, we wanna gather, like, some sports, like, some collectible data, and I'm like, that's cool. You should go tell... You see my PFE? You know, these motherfuckers are doing? This dude got a 6 figure bankroll out here making prop bets on fucking baseball players' color sneakers and shit. You know? So... Yeah. Alright. Rant over. Sorry, guys.
[0:10:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, that side note before we continue side note. We'll talk about it later or whatnot, but, yeah, Billy has his master's picks out. So, like, he's a... A... We we fed him a bunch of, like, last minute, like, let's get all of the data on the previous masters tournaments and champions and course and weather and as much as we could and just, like, essentially, like, one shot at our our our data source for Billy, and he picked some masters winners. So, yeah, I'll I'll I'll hit you up later. We'll talk.
[0:10:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Was that the thousand dollar bet that returned, like, 1,500 or whatever that you posted? I think I saw.
[0:10:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. No. I forget what you're I think that
[0:10:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: was a
[0:10:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: player prop. I think MLB.
[0:10:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Billy's cleaning up out here. But... Yeah. Cool. My bad, bro. I know I go off into tangents. What's good, my brother? My my fault. You you know how I get out here. What's good, Cole? How are you?
[0:11:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, no. I'm good. I'm good. Ready for the show. People are surprised at the bounce. I mean, we knew what's coming. We know when. It's what it is. Just enjoy the vibe, man. That's it. Let's go with the show. Let's do it.
[0:11:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I've never seen $3,500,000,000,000 come off the sideline faster than I did to... Than I saw today. Normally, that's a buildup over, like, a day or two. Right? It's, 800,000,000, and then, like, six hours later, we're at 1,000,000,000,000. And then, like, a day later, you're at 1.5... Bro, $3,500,000,000,000 literally just, like, just somehow magically got their ass off the sidelines. Boy, isn't it isn't crazy? It's crazy.
[0:11:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: But we we saw... I saw a headline. I think either with some CEO or some some bank, he he... They're they're predicting a recession yesterday. Today, no more recession. So the way people change their minds, man, is crazy when prices are red and prices are green. That's what we keep telling you. Right? Just keep buying, man, and believe in something. Because if you don't believe in anything, you... Guys, no joke. I guarantee you a lot of people sold their bags yesterday. I guarantee it. And now they're like, holy moly. They're popping. And of of FarceCoin. FarceCoin off 58%. So, yeah, man. And like I said, I'm here, man, enjoying the vibe. They say we... Crypto crypto is crazy, and I even think the stock market... As a matter of fact, I think the stock market is even crazier than in crypto markets because I don't understand how the, you know, S and P could just pump and dump like that, man. Just within ten minutes, bro. 4,000,000,000,000 in ten minutes. Insane.
[0:12:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is what happens when superpowers now go battling. Right? Because Trump understand... Like, this motherfucker is playing chess out here, man. He knows exactly what levers he can pull, who he needs to get... Because this whole thing is... And and this is... Look. Just my opinion. But the way that I see this is he has a very clear picture. It is stop China dead in their fucking tracks no matter what the cost is right now. Like, short term fucking, you know, little hemorrhaging from The US to con... Who cares? Right? We're gonna now sanction the Europeans, and now the Europeans are gonna say, you... They're gonna realize, we can't do this. Like, we can't survive. Like, this isn't gonna happen. Right? Because the rest of the world needs The United States granted. Of course, we import a lot. Right? Like, 100%. And and I'm not gonna sit up here and claim, like, I know the exact numbers. Like, I'm sure Landy would. You what I mean? At some point, he probably would have them right off top of his head. But I don't know, like, if we're net importer, exporter, but at the end of the day, what I do know is we are the superpower of the world, and the world looks to us as the center and focal point of a... I mean, our economy literally powers this whole world. Right? But what Trump said, I think, was super... Like, when I really think... Look look back to yesterday. He said, I am not... Like, the days of Wall Street running the economy are done. Like, I have four years here. That's over with. That's it. And, of course, you're gonna... When you get... Think about any job that you have. When you make... Like, when you're a boss and you have to make decisions, you're not gonna please everybody. There's gonna be people on your team that are gonna be fucking really pissed off. Right? Because, like, there is no one size fits all, especially not in this fucking country. That's for damn sure. But at the end of the day, like, he is not wavering. Like, what we talk about here all the time about, like, have conviction, like, what you heard Kool just say. Right? Like, believe in something. When you have a plan and you now have the people around you that are gonna essentially support you to help execute that plan, which he does, I personally have never seen something like this. I love that crypto is at the epicenter of it. Brace for the volatility. It's gonna be crazy up down. We could be back in here tomorrow being like, uh-huh. 79,000. Because it did it last time, if y'all remember. 94,000 back to eighty two thousand. So this has to be expected. In the interim, go play with these fucking cool AI tools and learn how to fucking do this shit so you don't get left behind. Gosh. Come on. Trav, what's good, bro?
[0:15:14] Trav @trav_4211: Yo. That... What has happened today is just like a snippet of what's coming, bro. A small snippet. It's so much money on the sidelines, and it ain't even came into crypto yet. Like, where we're going, I'm just excited. Getting in position, having soul shit, just laughing at the people who've been crying like little bitches for the last day or so.
[0:15:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: He said, little bitches. Hey. Some some some of our listeners might not have been in the best shape, so don't don't take offense, listeners. But if you did sell, stop being a little bitch. Hold your shit. Fuck. Let me say what's up to Meta Beast. Meta Beast, what's good, bro?
[0:15:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, I had a fun time with Dee and Hanano last night anyway.
[0:16:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. That's the way to start off the story. Let's go. Do counts.
[0:16:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You bet. Yeah. So we did did some talking about the state of the world today and crypto in general as well. Saw some projects that Hanano finds interesting and likes and also took a little adventure into Second Life, which is an OG metaverse platform.
[0:16:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Did I also... Because I was tuned into that. Did I hear you say that you found the Stacks ecosystem in 2019?
[0:16:34] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I... That probably was about the time, I think. Yeah.
[0:16:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: No shit. You're more stacks o g than me, bro.
[0:16:43] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. But like I said, I... There was something that kept me from getting into it, and I can't remember what the deal was. If it just... If it was because it was The United States or what. But... Yeah, it was something I looked at long, long time ago.
[0:16:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. I like that. Did you see your boys at Story Protocol standing outside the Google offices today? They made a nice little announcement being like, Google web... Google Cloud Web three. Like, the biggest oxymoron I've ever heard in my life? Google Cloud web three. Yeah. Nice. But, yeah, we're gonna have Aaron, guys. Don't forget. We're gonna have Aaron on next week. What's today? Yeah. Next week. We're gonna have Aaron McDonald on few... We're gonna be talking everything future verse. I'm trying to get... I'm I'm actually cool. I'm actually chatting with the story protocol founder, like, in the DMs. I'm trying to get him in here. So... Because, obviously, like, they get... Like, those two behemoths announced the partnership. I would love to get them in here talking about that so we can really see, like, what the future of actual IP on chain is gonna look like. I think that would be incredible. Yeah. What what else did I... Oh my god. I would just bring forward it. I was gonna say something else. Oh, yeah. And cool. I locked up a sponsorship for me and you, my boy. By the way, I'll tell you after this with something called rogue traders. I don't know what it is. But, yeah, we're gonna figure it out. So if y'all are farming out here, we got something coming. Okay. Let me see. Let me focus right now as to what the hell is going on. Bitcoin is at 83... Hey. There he is, miss America. Hey, Landy. What's up? Are you back on the West Coast, or are still East Coast?
[0:18:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Weekend. That's actually what I was just working out.
[0:18:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: So my bad. Coming down to the DMV. I wanna see you.
[0:18:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit. Really?
[0:18:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Not at all. But, like, would that work if I did?
[0:18:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I don't even know how to get there because I'm I'm not... I'm fairly new out here. So, but there's there's a few things happening. There's a few things happening. I wanna say hi, Dave. Hi. Cool. Are we all enjoying the, the Six Sigma event, that has now starting to mean revert a little bit?
[0:18:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy We're we're not kudos to you, bro. You have literally been on the... I will give you the the biggest... The mass... Most massive amount of props because on the timeline, like, your sentiment is literally, like... When I say on point, when you... Like, as... Like, the best fucking... The best way to turn it, like, if somebody's right, it's like, look back into the tweets and it's like, I told you fucking idiots yesterday, and now you're crying again today.
[0:19:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Ah, you've been like, oh, cheaper sense.
[0:19:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: So kudos, bro. Well done.
[0:19:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. I appreciate it. Look. I've I've been through this rodeo a few times in traditional markets even before getting into crypto, so I had I had a, I had a primer. I'm lucky in that regard. I'm very, very fortunate. You don't often... I mentioned this, you know, a couple days ago. You don't often see a six sigma event. And just to to to clarify for those that have never heard that before, that means that that's a volatility term for risk managers, by the way. That's where you have six or more standard deviations away from a mean. That just implies that volatility is extremely high or it's going to be extremely high. And before it actually hit its highs, in this case, the volatility index for the S and P 500, I was calling it out because you could see the path that it was on. Right? And you very rarely ever get to see these events, like, happen right in front of you. Usually, it's like, oh, you're reading about it, or or maybe you were in the market and you experienced it, but you didn't understand why things were occurring. What we just saw was the largest, I think this might be the largest. We have to wait for final numbers to to come in. This was the the largest dash to cash. Essentially, what that means is we saw a bunch of players in markets around the world, not just here in The United States, be forced out of their positions. So that means that they were either getting margin called or it was a bunch of forced selling. Of course, there was a lot of people who were hedged already because they... You know, reading the tea leaves and so on and so forth and your Warren Buffets of the world and your Jamie Dimons who got out early and went cash. This was all of the other players that were forced sellers. You know, it it went past their levels for risk management. They... We saw corporate bonds selling off in a massive way. At the same time, we saw, treasury selling off in a massive way. That's why you saw people saying, hey. Yields are are rising. That means that there's a ton of selling going on. That means that everybody's going to cash. Then you see, you know, all of the different players, the bigger players go, oh, there's a recession. Because when everybody's going to cash, they're sidelining capital. Growth deteriorates from there, so on and so forth. But my, oh my, how quickly things turn around. I had mentioned right here on this stage and many others that if this is going to be an event like what we saw the last time that Trump was in office with the same situation with tariffs, what did we see? Ninety days to find the low. If it goes over ninety days, sure. Then we can start thinking about maybe a a recession or a long form bear market. But other than that, you gotta let it play out. And so far, we're seeing some positive signs. Don't fool yourselves, though. It's still a downtrend on longer term time frames, and we need to see where this mean reversion, in this case, revert back to the upside because price was moving down for everything. The mean reversion is shooting back to the upside. Do we get any healthy structure out of it? Or, you know, does it build out? You know, you go back up and and does it reject and make new lower lows, that kind of thing. So that's... We're we're in that period right now. And last year, I talked about first to second quarter transition. I don't care who you voted for. This was gonna happen. It was just gonna be whatever the other narrative was gonna be. And in this case, we're on the other side of of this major event for the volatility index. That does not mean that the lows are necessarily set in or the macro lows are in, at least the, local lows are in. And now we can start assessing the situation and how it plays out. And I don't know if you've talked about this yet, Dave or Cole, but, the whole ninety day pause for 75 countries and now China coming to the table, well, when you think about ninety days, what's supposed to occur with the Fed in, like, ninety days at the end of the... Oh, that's right. Rate cuts. You wanna talk about engineering something to near perfection? This is this is Trump and Xi. They were ratcheting this up. And if you don't think there's a handshake behind the behind the scenes going on here, then I don't know what to tell you because they clearly wanted to put the banks of the world on notice that, yeah. Okay. You think you're in control? Well, we just made you all run to cash, and now we're gonna do a deal. So have fun. Have fun. We run this game, not you. This is this is literally a shot across the bow of banks. And for those that don't think that it is, go look at what China's doing with the digital yuan. They don't want the... They don't want these bankers in play, and neither does Trump.
[0:24:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, they were dumping fucking treasuries today. I mean, to the point... Bro, like, I I think at at one point, I saw, like, 13 per... 12%, 30... I was like, are you fucking kidding me right now? Like, to the tune of $4,050,000,000,000 dollars, and it's just like... I feel like it's like it's like kids. You know when kids fight? And it's like, if you do this, then I'm just gonna do this back. And it's just like, like, this is
[0:24:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did you see the
[0:24:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: so crazy.
[0:24:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did you see the numbers on the fucking corporate bond side? So here's... And this is this... I... It's gonna go up its own ass if I if I go too far down this rabbit hole. But when you see corporate treasuries dumping, meaning that you're seeing yields spike on corporate treasuries by, like, a 100 basis points, 200 basis points, and then you see, US treasuries in this case spiking as well, that's everybody going, we don't know where to go except cash. We're fucked. Yo. We we we just got liquidated. We gotta cover and go start up a new shell company. Hold on. Like, that's what's going on. Like, we we just witnessed one of the biggest deleveraging events since COVID because that was, like, one of the biggest ones we've ever seen in history, at least in modern history. This was... I I I can't wait for numbers to come in, like, final numbers, like, reports, not just, like, gauging the market side and live data Because I'll bet with all of the money that's been pumped into these economies over the past four years post COVID that we probably saw the biggest deleveraging event that we have ever seen, and that is bullish. That's not bearish. That is bullish. That also means that the banks, they're screwed because now they're in between a rock and a hard place. Oops.
[0:26:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're gonna run to stable... Bro, this is what I'm saying. Like, the banks are gonna be looking around now and saying, where's the next dot? Like, yo. My wife my wife is gonna need a new car. Like, she's gonna want another house in six months. Right? Like, these fucking rich... Like like, this is what I'm talking. Like, the shallow ass when you... When I think of, like, three arrows and these greedy fucks. Because they're gonna look around, and they're gonna say, like, where is the next dollar gonna come from? Because their pockets are gonna get lighter. And where are they gonna turn to? Fucking stablecoins. I'm not afraid of the scammer. You know what's funny? It's, like, I'm not afraid of, like, the scam artist or the the criminal element using Bitcoin. I'm afraid of the fucking bankers and the Wall Street. Like, they're the biggest threat, in my opinion, to this whole shit, genuinely. Like, the banks are the biggest fucking threat to this because, like, I'm all for deregulation, and cool. I'm kinda curious, like, where you're where you're with this. But, like, I mean, obviously, like, we... Where it's gonna play out how it's gonna play out, but I'm all for deregulation. But sometimes, you can also deregulate so much. Like, it's almost over deregulation, if that's even a fucking term. But, like, you... Like, you're just really throttling back heavy, heavy, heavy to where it's like, are we gonna go back? Is this gonna be the Wild West now? Because they're act... Like, the Trump administration is actively trying to, like, dead every SEC investigation into every... Especially, like, any stable coin issuer, you name it. I read that literally this morning. So I don't know. Like, cool. You think, like, too much deregulation no good?
[0:27:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: No, boy. You don't... So so every... Everything's happening like this. Right? Trump has basically four years before he leaves office. You have two years, less than two years to the midterms. Right? He he has no choice than to move fast... This fast. So in an environment where there's the the the regulation, it's a good thing for for innovation in our industry, crypto industry, the AI industry, a lot of industries have been, tied. The hand... Hands have been tied. You can't do anything unless you you have freedom to build. Of course, there's gonna be some issues sometimes. Yeah. By the end of the day, you need to build, man. I was watching this stuff today, Joe Rogan, very fascinating, man. He was interviewing this guy. I'm not saying I agree or disagree or whatever, but it just kinda... It's similar to what we'll be going through in crypto over the past four, five years. He, he and his, and his mates, they... They've been cloning animals from from ten thousand years ago. The the... Their wolf is the craziest thing. This thing is actually living right now. And what he said was, there's no way we could have done this if we were getting permission from the governments. Because, they... They've they've been heavily funded by the, you know, the guy... The guys that made the movie, what's that movie? The Game of Thrones, a lot of big big money bags. And what he said was, we've been able to go this far because of of... We haven't really had regulation. And what he said was, there's some people on the side. They've been attacking them and all this stuff. And he said those people haven't built anything because they've been heavily regulated. So in an industry where... Yeah. Look at Bitcoin, man. Imagine if Bitcoin had to had to a founder and get regulation permission. We would not be where we are right now. Crypto built a multitrillion dollar industry without the government's approval. So that's what we need right here, man. So it's it's good. I think, guys, that's the reason. There's there's gonna be stable coin regulation, whatever whatever. But I'm not saying we don't need this. What I'm saying is you're... You are... You allow innovations to happen, and you need this. You need an environment. That's that's that's that's that's fertile. Because if you don't have it, we can't build anything, man. Nothing's gonna get done.
[0:30:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: My guys, look look at
[0:30:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: the past four years. Look at the past four years, man. Nothing was done. It was a law lawsuit over lawsuits over lawsuits, and we had to bribe and bribe and bribe. But now, like I said, we'll see what happens we'll see what happens when Trump leaves office. I hope... I really hope these, these... You know, I I think I think I think they're doing the right thing now, but I think, Solana Solana created their own, loving group for DC. And I'm assuming a lot of, projects have, loving groups now. They they they are a lot more powerful now, but you you... I hope, you know, this industry gets stronger when Trump leaves because I don't know what happens when that happens because we we still have people that hate that hate our industry, man. They're seeing power. Warren, she's still there. If the democrats win office again, she could be head of the financial, arm again. So what what happens then? So we need to build, man, and and, you know, we have four years to build something that's gonna be very, very hard to defeat four years from now.
[0:31:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: You think we see voting on the blockchain by the time he's gone?
[0:31:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: I don't I don't know. I I don't know. I... Okay. Look. So that would be nice. I don't think so. I don't... That would be nice. It's a good thing to happen, but that's not gonna happen because these guys, they cheat, man. I'm not saying just Democrats. Each each party probably cheats. They don't want you to know. They wanna be able to count votes, ban closed doors, or add votes. And, guys, they they they... They're saying that in California. Right? That's why. I mean, I I love Canada. I used to live there. I could never live in that place right now. It is illegal to ask for voter ID. US is probably one of the only country on earth that you go vote, and they don't... California is illegal. Can you imagine how he's saying that is? Why? Why would they tell you, oh, don't vote, or or or you you can't vote if you have ID? They want it cheap, man. Of course.
[0:32:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: So That's racist. That's
[0:32:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: so racist.
[0:32:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: Like this. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. In a con... In in a country like this, they they... That's not gonna happen. They they would never allow allow votes on on a vote saying, bro. It's too it's too transparent, man. It's too transparent.
[0:32:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what's scary also, guys, is the fact that, like, I read stories now about California reaching out to, like, Canada on their own to try and essentially, like, weasel their way out. Like, we don't wanna be subject. Like like, we don't wanna be under Trump. And, like, that can really set a really, really bad... I mean, I don't know how that works out, to be honest, but, Landy, I love you. Everybody in California, I love y'all, but, like, just fucking... It's like a it's like a wound. It's like you just wanna just cut it off already. Just let it fucking go. You know what I mean? If that's the route they're gonna go, because, like, a link... A a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Right? And if one goes, like, who's to say that that doesn't start some crazy ass fucking, like, civil war? Like, that's insane for them to be able to do something like that. Right? Like... But they're doing it. Like, they're... Like, it's unhinged at this point. The problem is we can't even fucking have a conversation. I don't wanna talk about politics. But, yeah, you guys get it. Appreciate that, Cole. Yeah. I was just curious if you got... Sunnyv, do you think they'll be, like, voting on chain, like, for anything, like, government related? I mean, I know the DMV, and there's been tests and, you know, the California DMV on Avalanche and and and motor vehicle records and blah blah blah, but, like, really where it fucking matters?
[0:33:44] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Well, I don't know. The altcoin cabal, I shared a interactive document that projects AI over the course of the next three years, and it has two options. You know? You read through it, and it has, like, the world engages in an AI race or, you know, they vote to slow down by, like, 2027 or something like that. And, you know, being in AI and blockchain all at once, what... What's really starting to be very apparent is we are going to need a truth layer. We're going need a ledger that people can always turn and look to because the amount of content... You look at the difference in amount of content, myself, you, who... Anybody who's a content creator can now produce, and then think of how many people are actually using AI right now. Think about what it's like when a billion people, a cool billion people on the planet are using it on a regular basis and, like, how much filtration we're gonna need, how much, like, need for truth, and where are we gonna find that truth that's gonna be on blockchain. I don't know what's gonna get us to the point because I know right now Trump's, like, fighting to do paper ballots, which is kinda seems like backwards. But I think something's gonna trigger us to realize that we need to have a blockchain based voting system.
[0:35:14] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yeah. I mean, I I I think it's gonna be unavoidable at some point, and I think it's gonna be a huge thing in in time for the next election. I think a lot of people aren't gonna be ready for it. There's gonna be a very a very important need for it because of AI being a major factor in it. And I'll link that link that I was talking about. It's it's an incredibly in-depth researched projection of the impact of AI over the course of the next three years, and it... That in combo with some ATC's talks with, like, Mikey and and, like, what they're building over at Think and all these tools that you've been sharing, like, it's kinda what's giving me this energy right now. Like, it's... Bells are going off. And as far as voting goes, I think in combo with AI, I think we're gonna need to find a solution here faster than anybody Yeah. Thinks.
[0:36:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: If y'all don't think that your glass is fucking more than half, like, half full, like, this glass is... Like, the way I'm seeing this shit right now. Right? Like, I am... You know how you hear Cool say, like, he's been... Like, this is the most bullish I've ever been? Like, I hear him say that. Right? But, like, everyone has to kinda go through it on their own. Like, now, here, today, like, do... Like, I'm at this point. Like, the combination of everything Sunny d just said about where AI is, crypto, like, if I don't come out of this, the wealthiest motherfucker on the planet, okay, it's because some... It was a it was a female that took me down, and they're... And cool. I'll give it to you. You know what I mean? Maybe I should get I should get married and settled down. Like, that's the only reason. That's that's it. K? And my own... Yeah. This is my own self. But if you guys can't see this opportunity right now, I mean, I don't... I genuinely don't know, like, other than somebody who's, like, coming up to and trying to shake you and be like, open your eyes to, like... And your ears and trust what you're hearing and what you're fucking seeing because this is... Like, in... Where where do you get opportunity like this? This is ground fucking zero, guys. Literally ground zero. I get it. The web two world is like, we... You hear us say it all the time. Like, life is going on out there. Eggs are back to normal prices. In fact, they're probably even cheaper than when we were fucking talking about people going crazy and fucking, you know, Landy beating people up at fucking Costco for eggs. You know what I mean? Like, think about that. Chicken fights. Oh my god, guys. We we miss chicken... You guys remember chicken fights in the pool when you used to put people on your shoulder? Oh my god. That was a layup. Bildo, we miss chicken fights, bro. Fuck. Yo. Yeah. Landy, does that... Does another generation know about chicken fights, or was that, like... Did they refer to it as chicken fights?
[0:38:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You know what happened? We got old. That's what happened. That's that's the unfortunate part. That's the unfortunate reality. Although I can tell you that being out here, I'm looking around, and I'm a young spry guy. So
[0:38:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: there's so many
[0:38:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: In the land? Running around here. Oh my god. It gets a real Confucius thing.
[0:38:31] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Not gonna lie. I was in a space just the other day. We were... They were talking about chicken monster car remote control racing.
[0:38:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Chicken monster car. Wait. Was that, like, a thing, like, at Madison Square Garden with, like, the fucking... You know, when they had, like, the monster truck cars. What was the what was the famous monster truck car? I forgot.
[0:38:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Is that what
[0:38:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: you're referring to, Meta Beast? It's called Big Bigfoot. Yes. There you go. Damn. Sunny d's just as old as me. Motherfucker. You don't look like that, bro. I know that, bro. Like, get on my life. No way. No way, bro. I'm not old. I'm not old
[0:39:08] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: as you. I'm I'm not, like... I'm, like, probably
[0:39:10] Sunny D @dylN0chill: a good five, six, eight years younger than you. So
[0:39:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Motherfucker. What?
[0:39:14] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I just like monster trucks, bro.
[0:39:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Fucking
[0:39:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: a. Man, I I don't know, man. I got... I'm I'm echoing cool sentiment. I mean, obviously, you've heard Landy's sentiment. Like, everyone in in their own time. Right? Like, nobody's gonna be... We... Nobody can force you to see something. Oh my god. I feel like we're really in a Hollywood movie that you're not ready to see. You'll see when the time is right. Like, what... All these cheesy sayings that I grew up saying, like, I'm not even kidding, are, like, the most relevant sayings ever. Like, all the cheesy shit you heard, it's like, wait. You do something you you work... Do something you love, you never work a day in your life? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That actually really does make sense. Man. Yeah. Sorry. I I know I go off on these tangents, but, like, this is, like, this is wild with the tech that's here. Because when I hear you guys talk about this, I hear crypto, AI, then the quantum conversation comes into my head, and I'm just like, how... Like, what is gonna happen? It's like, we don't fucking know, but you can prepare, right, for what you think may happen. That's it. Alright. Oh, wait. I did have something really good from two excerpts from Mikey yesterday that I actually pulled a little bit earlier. Listen up.
[0:40:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know, you go from you go from meeting mode where it's just, you know, listen and go fast to we're talking on spaces. I'm doing great, man. Like, we're in the process of seeing, the entire AI ecosystem, be taken out of these walled gardens and made available to everybody. And so there's almost like the gold rush going on right now where everybody who's building AI apps is realizing that these MCPs are, like, the path forward. And so everybody's building as fast as they can, to be the platform that everybody goes on that's, like, essentially your portal to the Internet of agents. So all the web two companies are making their services available via these things, and and the rush is gonna be on for who can bring in consumers and businesses the fastest. And ThinkAgents are kind of, like, perfectly positioned since we've been working on this for over a year to be able to be the platform that that everybody uses. So we're about two weeks away from from our presale that's happening on the twenty second.
[0:41:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. I got I got one more for you guys. We don't bring the schleps on this show. Okay? We don't bring the schleps on here. And this is the thing that's so cool
[0:41:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: about AI and why it changes the entire game for every software company that's out there is each one of these things is like a server that can hold code in it and have blockchain transactions and move around. So they literally become universally interoperable. Agents are like the end game in interoperability, and and I don't see any way that they have a tool outside of blockchain to use as their standard of truth and transaction. And so I'm very convinced that, that blockchain is where the winning agents will live.
[0:42:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. You heard it here first. Shout out to Mikey. He's gonna be back with us again tomorrow. Guys, don't forget the Think Mint is coming up in the week... About week and a half or so. Coma came up. Coma, what's good, bro?
[0:42:14] Kkoma @itskkoma: Dude, I came up, like, in between you, like, kinda doing that thing. So I thought it was a real person talking almost. And then I realized, I was like, wait. What the hell is that talking about? And then it's coming from your account. And I was like, damn. I must be tired or it's really good AI. I don't know. It could be a bit of both. But What? Though, I I did come up because you did say something about, like, you know, when you do something you love, you don't feel like you're working kinda thing. I think another thing holds true for you, Dave, where it's... I quit my nine to five job, so now I work twenty four seven. Does that resonate?
[0:42:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: A 100%, bro. Exactly. There's no hours. The days are just all meshed together. I don't know. Like, you know when Cole comes in, he's like, happy Wednesday. And we're like, cool. It's like a Monday, bro. And he's like, oh, Monday. Cole
[0:43:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: came in here. He's like he's like, oh, man. It's great to it's great to be here on a Friday, and it's like, cool. It's Thursday, bro. You you... The show's not on Friday. Like, he's already living in the
[0:43:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: weekend. Yeah. He's... Meanwhile, he's like, motherfuckers. I didn't eat all fucking day. I'm a... Like, get get off my... But clarity. Bro, I really thought it was Thursday today, Randy, when
[0:43:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: you said that, but it's actually Wednesday.
[0:43:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. It's Wednesday.
[0:43:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: See? Wednesday. It's only when you have to say happy, and then you're just like, oh, fuck. I actually have to iterate what day of the week. Because you don't wake up anymore thinking, what day of the week is today? You're just like, what the fuck do I gotta get done right now? Like, let's fucking go. You know what I mean? Like, you wake up ready to tackle the day, not like, 7AM on a Wednesday. And... Fuck. I gotta get in the shower, and I gotta go. And I'm not... Believe you me, I did this for fucking twenty some odd years. So god bless. If you have the web two job, like, go make your money. I'm telling you, like, come on. Yeah. I'll trade nine to five for $24.07 any day of the fucking week, bro.
[0:44:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Man, I... I've worked more since retirement than I've ever worked in my freaking life. I have no idea how that happened. I was supposed to be on the beach, and I I see the beach, but it's out there. Instead of me on it, I'm just looking at it.
[0:44:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: You retired to Twitter spaces. That's where you retired to.
[0:44:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: I pretty much did, dude.
[0:44:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Pretty much. And then who... Did you ever think in your wildest dreams that you'd retire to Twitter spaces and we'd be going, wee. No. No. No. That's...
[0:44:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: That was not what.
[0:44:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Never. Never.
[0:44:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: What the palm reader told me.
[0:44:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. My tarot card did not have this. Okay? I don't know what the hell she was looking at. You guys see what I see down there? Look who it is. Who is it? Lurking.
[0:44:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I see him. I see him. Mhmm.
[0:45:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. I see him. It's funny red hat.
[0:45:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Post today. I I liked it and agreed with him on it.
[0:45:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course. I mean, tell us fucking something we don't know. And it said, literally, once Trump said... He literally quote tweeted Trump and went saying, like, the tariffs are offered ninety days, and he was like, markets are probably gonna go higher or the market's gonna like this. Yeah, gamer. Real fucking insightful.
[0:45:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's the tweet you're talking about? There better be another tweet.
[0:45:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was the USDT tweet. It was about mean reversion. Just be careful kinda thing. Like, hey. It's fun right now, but, you know, just be careful. That's all. That was the one. I didn't see the markets are gonna go up.
[0:45:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I gotta find... I'm gonna I'm gonna pin it. I'm a pin it up. We'll see whatever we can do to get them up here as fuck. Oh my god. It was like ninety days. Tariffs are off. He literally quote tweets it, and then he literally goes, the market's probably gonna love this. Hire. And it's like, thank you, captain fucking obvious.
[0:45:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm trying to find, so Tycho put into, into Stacks terms exactly what I was describing. I was trying to find his his, his post for it, but he he put it perfectly. He, like, explained the leverage on top of leverage on top of leverage and then the deleveraging but using DeFi terms. And I think that more people could relate to that than than what I was talking about, but I can't find it anywhere because he, he posts too much, I think, here. Doth post too much, which
[0:46:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: is weird. We're Here it is. He literally quote tweets like the fucking, the tweet from POTUS. And he writes, ninety day pause is hella bullish. The markets are gonna respond to this. It doesn't even say positive. The markets are gonna respond to this news. Gamer, we're revoking your ATC card for tweets like this, bro. What... Like, come on. I'm a
[0:46:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's the heady tweet right there, brother.
[0:46:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, like, cautiously optimist... I... I'd rather you say cautiously optimistic. Let's say, this is crazy.
[0:47:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. There's a Why? Look. Look. There's there's the chance of a recession. Yeah. Fears of a recession.
[0:47:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: 60% of the time, it works a 100% of the time. I'm telling you. Like, for real. Oh my god.
[0:47:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: I love it. That's actually a pretty goated tweet now that I think about it.
[0:47:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Bro. And how much do you retweet, gamer? Oh my god. What is he retweeting? Like, gamer, you... He'll give you, like, the craziest insight than, like, the biggest alpha, and then it's, like, slime. And you're like, what the fuck is this? Like like, slime? Like like, what... Like, what... I don't even know what this is, gamer. Check out USDT, USDC. Oh, look. This is the number. Cool. 5... It's not even 3,500,000,000,000. We got another 2,000,000... 2,000,000,000,000 that came in, trickled on in off the sidelines in the last couple hours. $5,500,000,000,000. Where does that money come? Where? Where? Where? It's sitting. We tell... Like, listen. It's... Take... Yeah. I just read that tweet. Like, I don't know. The one that
[0:48:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: you just sent me. It's not even Polish.
[0:48:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's just... It's
[0:48:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: kinda It's it's all low.
[0:48:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's confused.
[0:48:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: But it is funny.
[0:48:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Camera, you're just confused. I get it. It's fine. Maybe today's not one of those beautiful sunny days here in the bay. Get out of here.
[0:48:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. I did find Tyco's tweet. Let me post this up there. This is this is breaking down what occurred in markets in, in DeFi terms, which is, of course, this is a little bit of a of a Stacks DeFi show, but I like it.
[0:48:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
[0:48:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was just gonna say, like, let me see if I I I have too many screens, and I just realized I... I'm in a different browser looking at the tweet.
[0:48:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what figured. It's gonna take you ten minutes to build up to this. I I figured I could easily get another store headline in there. Real quick. Go ahead. Trump selling Ethereum. Did you see this Arkham fucking post? Any validity to this? I I hope Marty Party didn't get ahold of it. I mean, I don't I don't know. Right? Like, I'm not gonna Marty Party it just yet because it is Arkham. But, like... Or maybe it was somebody that commented under an Arkham post. I gotta go find it. I don't wanna misspeak.
[0:49:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: But wasn't Arkham. It was... In fact, I went to Arkham to prove somebody wrong on exactly this. This was somebody who took a limited screenshot of LookOnChain and said... Tagged LookOnChain and said, yeah. They're selling all their Ethereum. And all you have to do is go to Arkham and look at World Liberty Financial, and you'll see that they have done no such thing. They have not sold anything, and this was complete FUD. And the person who had this, who posted this was a very small account. It was clearly farming, But so many people wanted to run with it that they did, and somehow it became a thing. And I... I'm literally looking. I literally have Arkham up right now looking at World Liberty Financial at 102000846742. So, outflows. Outflows. Let's see what kind of outflows they have. Oh, let's see. They had, USDT six days ago, an outflow of 213, thousand dollars. And let's see. Oh, what were they getting on the... Oh, they were buying things on the other side of that. Weird. Weird. They had USDT, a stablecoin, and they were buying other things with it. That's kinda crazy. I don't know. Mhmm.
[0:50:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: And y'all see the... Like, did y'all see the volume? When we talk about, like, trillions of dollars coming in here, like, where the rest of it going, number one? I mean, still $90,000,000,000 in trading volume... Twenty four hour trading volume for Bitcoin. That is what... I mean, that's crazy. If I'm looking at... Hold on. Let me just let up Kanter. If I'm looking at this 90... Almost 90,000,000,000 and then ETH... Hey. Look at ETH getting back up to, yeah, we're like, ticket, ticket, ticket, ticket, ticket, See where?
[0:50:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: In addition, that six days ago, had the 250 or $235,000 outflow, $213,000 USDT outflow, 45 k USDC, 31 k USDC. Inflow on the other side of that was $25,000,000 in USDC. So these people can eat a giant dildo.
[0:51:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Hey. Lick the pink bunny out of this, bro. You don't belong. No. But, like, in all seriousness, if you look at some of the stories, like, you have to be able to differ. Like, you gotta be able to think and look at the stories because the stories I saw today was crypto see... Bitcoin sees 325,000,000 in outflows, and it's just like, the fuck are we talking about? Like, $90,000,000,000 traded hands. Three hun... We're literally writing about 325,000,000 in outflows. Like, put you... Like, we have to be able to put things in perspective, but I hope that's what you guys kinda... I hope that's what you get here because... I mean, Ethereum had almost 50,000,000,000 cool in twenty four hour trading volume. Why yoke? You're never gonna call bottoms, guys. Right? Because I know... I'm sure people probably come in here, and they hear me... When they heard me say the other day, like, oh, yeah. Thank god I had dry powder, and I I put, like, you know, a few thousand dollars at, like, $79.02 or something in Bitcoin. And when it's at 76, people, like, they, like, they think that, like, oh, like, he was wrong. It's just like, nah. Nah. You heard Cool say he was emptying clips into Ethereum when it was at, like, $17.50. Like I I thought Warren Buffett said it perfectly on CNBC. He goes, when you buy a house and you buy a house for $200,000, and then a month later after you buy the house, somebody comes over and offers you a $190,000 for the house, are you running away and selling the house? No. You're not selling the house for a 190,000. You paid 200,000 for it. Like, you bought it for a reason. Like, it's just... I don't know. Like, the the the shakiness is crazy, but the resiliency will come. Yep.
[0:52:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Listen. When when I buy homes at $200,000 and then they drop to a $100,000, I burn them for the insurance money. And that's how it actually works.
[0:53:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: I knew Cool was involved in some sort of ring 12 houses. I mean, crypto's good, but goddamn, it's fucking great. Let me say what's up to Kanter. Kanter, first off, thank you very much. I got the 100... I got a $113. Thank you with the appreciation right before the pump. So you're the man, bro. Thank you.
[0:53:28] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Congrats, dude. Yeah. I'm glad. I mean, honestly, it was uncontested. I'm just being really transparent. It was really clear from the the minute that you started speaking that you had won that contest. So congrats, and I'm happy to see the market is up today. It's... I I I always say it's like, this is the most bullish and prosper... Prosperous time for crypto and blockchain and adoption in general. Like, if you... If you've been in this space for a long time and you've been through multiple cycles, like, I've been here since 2016, 2015, You've seen it all, and and you know that during a bull, like like, this is this is just come and go. And the important part is to recognize the fact that, you know, every single SEC lawsuit that's been raging up against blockchain and crypto startups has been dropped. You've got sovereign wealth funds looking at crypto. You've got strategic Bitcoin reserves coming together. This is a really exciting time in the industry, if not the most exciting.
[0:54:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. And for those that don't know, I didn't even know I was gonna be part of this pitch competition until two minutes before the pitch competition. Yeah. So, guys, actually, can't there... Do you... Like, feel free to plug that because I feel like any ecosystem that's out here giving out, like, money, grants, like, for for shit like this, like... Because there are... Like, this is not, like, in, like, the little pot... Like, there's a ton of ecosystems that have tons of money that are willing to give it out to, like, teams and and creators and builders that are actually, like, willing to put the time in and learn how to do this shit. And now it's never been easier. So feel free to plug that, by the way.
[0:55:19] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Yeah. If you're if you're comfortable. I never come into these spaces, like, looking for Shell. I'm always just here to, like, join in on the conversation. But we are... Like, data is a lot of ways that you can make money in web three, and it... It's not just, like, buying and trading. There's also, like, a whole heap of hackathons, grant programs, and things. And and how it is today with how we're accelerating, it's never been easier. Like, we're running a hackathon right now where you can win from a pool of $30,000. And the best part is, like, with AI, anyone in this room can enter. You know, that means you can win $6,500 as as a top prize in one of these tracks. And it's not only that. It's that exposure that you get from meeting people. You you know, a lot of people, they find their, like, life partners or their teams or their their their startup business partners through hackathons, actually. A number of companies have started this way. So who knows? Like, maybe you've got this idea that you've been waiting to execute on, and this is your shot to go and do that at a hackathon. There's a lot of these happening in so many ecosystems. And even tomorrow, like, we have another pitch competition where you can win a $100, and you don't even have to code anything. Just come up, take the mic like Dave did. And if your pitch is good, you win a $100 of the packs of goods.
[0:56:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Yo, Brett....
[0:56:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: Two questions. Oh, sorry.
[0:56:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real quick, Homa. I just wanna say, yo, Brett, I feel like this is, like, $6,500 sitting on a silver platter for us, and we just gotta go get it, bro. So let... Let's definitely chat after this, my man, for... I'm not even joking, bro. Like, let's go... Let's just go... Let's go get $6,500. Like, I'm I'm dead.
[0:57:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm down, bro. Yeah. Hit me up after this phase, so we'll go find a way to Done. Get $6,500.
[0:57:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Done. Done. Coma, go for it. And then, of course, I gotta say what's up to gamer with his funny red hat and his little pint of beer.
[0:57:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, I just love how Cantor just pitches these hackathons. He say you could find your life partner, guys, and I know a lot of
[0:57:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: us in COVID have EOD on that one. He's like, your life partner. I was like, oh my gosh. Okay.
[0:57:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: I was like, damn. This is
[0:57:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: my dad.
[0:57:29] Kkoma @itskkoma: Damn. So, guys, you never know.
[0:57:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm gonna rub in the fact that I'm single that much. Fuck, bro.
[0:57:34] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I... I'm so serious with that. I have I have met people in this situation. I don't just mean, like, your business partner. I mean, your your life partner. It's, like, a legit thing. You you you might meet a person at a hackathon and be with them forever. It's like, go back, like, fifteen years, and this was, like, DOTA hackathons and Diablo and and things like that. Now it's it's hackathons of virtual events.
[0:57:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So you... Let's put together an episode of where are they now. I bet you won't see any of them together. You think I'm married to be in Web three? You crazy? Are you not... You know, your mind... I'm as I'm as crazy as it gets. You think I'm... I want a me? No. No. Thank you. Absolutely not. I'm not trying to find life. Oh my god. Web... Love in web three.
[0:58:14] Kkoma @itskkoma: Second question for cancer. Are are winners are allow... Are winners allowed to repitch? Because, you know, I feel like if David pitches every time, you know, that's a little unfair.
[0:58:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you just come up... Like, is that question just to fucking cock block me, like, just from, like, from winning again? Like I just wanna know the rules. I just wanna know the rules. Are you running scared? Is that what it is? Yeah. Scared? There is there is nothing nothing in
[0:58:36] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: the rules will say that you can't win twice in any of the give... With the giveaways. And there's gonna be seven more of these until the end of the hackathon, like, pitch competitions and giveaways and things like that. That said, I think after Dave went, I think people got the drift that they have to try a little bit harder.
[0:58:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo, Coma. First off, thank you, Cantor, for the $700 in advance. I appreciate it. And Coma, like, stop. What the... Bro, you can't... Like, don't be coming up here, like, and being, like like, this is money out here. You know what I mean? Take it easy.
[0:59:11] Kkoma @itskkoma: I respect it. I respect respect it. Yeah. Good ideas and embrace the embrace the hustle.
[0:59:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And, Koma, by the way, just so you know, I hope you do take offense because I did ask Brett first because you totally told me to go fuck myself last time when I came to you with an amazing idea. I'm too busy. I'm too busy. I'm too busy. But, yeah, you hear dicking around with us fucking an hour and a half a fucking night, you know, when we could have been building a multimillion dollar empire. I don't show anything I work on on on this space, but I I Yeah. Building a lot of things. But, yes, I mean, I don't know what else to say. Brad, do you wanna work together and steal Dave's idea? Oh, wait. Oh, this is what he does. You see what he does? He does help me.
[0:59:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. How do I get in on this?
[0:59:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on. It's fucking crazy. Guys. I'm trying to... Guys, I need to know what kind of a day it is in the bay. Please, it's been killing me this whole time. Gamer, what's up?
[1:00:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yo. What's up, everyone? Sup, fam? Just to let you know, it's it's... I'm dying out here. It's 74 degrees, slight breeze. It's warm as shit right now. And, yeah, I finally got my account back. So if you didn't know, the reason why
[1:00:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I was out...
[1:00:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. The reason I was gone for for a week or however long it was, I was getting attacked by a hacker. So that was a fun learning experience.
[1:00:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, like, Like, VDOT? It wasn't Twitter? Like, it was, like... What do mean?
[1:00:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Well... Oh, this is a recorded space. I gotta be careful what I say here.
[1:00:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: What the fuck is this Jason Bourne one and Jason Bourne two?
[1:00:52] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, are you doing
[1:00:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: it again?
[1:00:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. I got... I gotta be careful because, you know, I will be going to court and attorneys and litigation. So that's why I can't say too much.
[1:01:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: You got enemies out here? You got... You make an enemies gamer out here? What the hell, bro? You look
[1:01:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: beautiful. Well well... So so this so this is a learning experience. Like I said, cybersecurity, It's something that, really, people don't talk about enough in web three, you know, especially here in blockchain and crypto. It really should be talked about damn near every space. And and I and I get it. You know, most people just don't understand it, don't get it. You know? But it really is a critical piece of, you know, your crypto life that you have here because I I forgot who said it, but I remember there was a a Bitcoin max that told me a long time ago, and he said that, you know, it takes years to accumulate your wealth and only a couple seconds to lose it all.
[1:01:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And, basically, what happened... Yeah. I'm not gonna say who the company was, but the phone carrier that I had did an unauthorized port transfer. If you don't know what that means, then you need to educate. You you... No. No. It's not a SIM swap. So so exactly.... That. Yeah. So so this and this is why I said it was a learning experience because I did a deep dive into cybersecurity for the last week trying to figure out all this stuff. And, essentially, what my cell phone carrier did was... Well... Or I'll just tell you what happened. So... You know? And it it just so happens. It happened right after our April Fools space. Right? My my phone just turned off, like, phone service. And I'm like, that's weird. So then, you know, I just thought it was a glitch, I restarted my phone thinking, you know, I'll get my service back. No connection. So then I pulled out my second phone and contacted my cell phone company and said, you know, what's what's going on? You know? And they're like, oh, we fulfilled your request to transport... Transfer your phone number to another account. And I went, What are you talking about? I didn't... I did no such thing. And they're like, yeah. You did. And then... I don't know if I should say the name.
[1:03:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: T Mobile.
[1:03:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. And so so the difference is a SIM swap is when you swap numbers with the same carrier. So Verizon to Verizon, T Mobile to T Mobile. Port transfer is when you go to a separate carrier, Verizon to Sprint, Sprint to AT and T. Right? Different... Completely different company. That's a port transfer. And the reason why it was unauthorized is because I never consented to it. They just took my phone number. And so that's why, you know, like I said, I am in... You know, I'm getting attorney services, and it's probably gonna be a big thing. I already threw it into AI. You know, AI pretty much said, yeah. Go go sue them. And... Oh, and the... K. I'm trying to figure out, like, what
[1:04:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can No. No. You don't. Like, the game where we get Yeah.
[1:04:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. And and and it's... But but... Yeah. So this this whole thing was just eye opener. And and what I learned from this is if you have any apps, you know, any financial apps, anything, and they say they have two FA, you need to go right now, or not now, but after this. Right? And and see, is that a two f a SMS or a two f a authenticate? They're different. They're not the same. And it's a big difference. Right? Because, essentially, what happened was the hacker got my phone number and then went into all my different apps and started resetting all my passwords and locking me out out of my own account. And the reason why they were able to get in is because guess what? The two f a SMS is just simply a text message to my own phone number. So, you know, what... They just reset password, and they're... And they sent a text to my cell phone number that that the hacker now controls. They say, yes. Reset the password, and they're in.
[1:05:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You gotta use these authenticators. Authenticators are the way.
[1:05:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Authenticator only. And and and so this is what... So now I'm going around spaces, you know, educating everyone like, hey. You need to go check on this or else you can have all your money drained out of your account. And for me, luckily, you know, all... They didn't they didn't touch any of my crypto stuff because all my crypto stuff has authenticate. Right? The the the stuff that they did attack was all my my TradFi stuff. It was all my TradFi stuff that doesn't have authenticator. Right? That... So those were the ones that got compromised. So it was a big pain in the ass all last week, you know, on the phone because I can't even get... Can't use online. Because the online will say, oh, do you want us to text you? Right? Do you... We're we're
[1:06:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: gonna text you, and it's like, well, I don't
[1:06:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: have my phone number. Right? So you can't do... So you have to call in, wait an hour, get through the machine, the robots, finally get a person on the phone, identify yourself. Right? So it's just a long tedious process. And and I'm telling everyone now, you know, like, go go go do it. Go go make sure everything's on authenticator. And, essentially, what I did was I started just deleting apps. And, you know, like like, if I have a financial app and there's no authenticator, delete all my information, close my account. Like, because because it's gonna get compromised. Like, that... That's it. And and if it's that easy for someone to port transfer your phone number, it's that easy for them to take all your money. So that's what I've been dealing with for the last week. And, yeah, that's why I've been gone.
[1:07:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, I mean, listen. With an analysis like you put out on the timeline today, I'm glad that you learned your lesson. Hopefully, you will not learn... You know, you're gonna stop putting out ridiculous tweets like that also. Give us a fucking real opinion. No. Gamer, seriously, man. I'm sorry that fucking happened to you, dude. That's terrible, bro. For real. Listen. I mean, let it let it be a learning experience for everybody out here. You know what I mean? Like, nobody is safe. Guys, I spoke to you guys... You guys know Michael. Right? Like, Michael is, like, a staple out here, wallet guard. Right? Like, Mike got acquired by MetaMask. Right? He lit... I mean, the... Like, I feel bad for this guy because, like, this is the guy that literally walks around screaming at the top of his lungs. Imagine, like, screaming at top of your lungs and only, like, one person can hear you because that's genuinely, like, what happens. Because like like Gamer said, you don't, like, you don't give a shit until it happens to you. Right? Like, I'm hearing it now. I'm listening to it now. I'm saying to myself, and I'm thinking back to what Michael said. It's like, I should probably take my phone number off of Twitter. Like, that should probably be... Like like, I should do that right now. You know what? I probably... Should do that right now. Actually, I'm thinking about it. But, like...
[1:08:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. And you know you know the worst part of it, Dave? It is... It is is it messes up your whole sleep pattern because then, you know, 2AM, I'm getting pinged notification. Are you logging in to your Microsoft account? And then 3AM, are you logging in to your, you know, Google account? Are you logging in to your... This account? And it's just round the clock, round the... You know what I mean? It's just nonstop. Oh, you just reset your password. Oh, that wasn't me. Oh, you're logging into this. Oh, you reset your password. Oh, that wasn't me. You know? So so... Yeah. It was it was just a nightmare.
[1:09:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And look. On the flip side, I know this because that... This is one thing that I'm... I was actually really good about in California. But when you forget your phone in an Uber and you realize, like, oh, shit. I can't log in to the email because the email requires the two f a, which the authenticator is on the phone, and I can't really get access to that. Now it's like, alright. Let me go use the other email address. But wait. This is the backup email address for that email address. So, shit, I can't use that. But then the Google signs me into literally every other fucking app out here. So it's like, goddamn. It does need to be a little bit simpler. They talk about the blockchain being tough to understand. Get your shit together, Google. They're like, fuck you, Firebase. Kanter, go for it.
[1:09:57] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Yeah. And it's like, well, one, alpha, I'm so sorry that happened to you. That that sucks. Like, it really does suck. And I'm glad that you're fighting it. Number one. Alright. Number two, like, security posture is is really tricky in today's world. Like, the whole Google thing is a huge problem. Like, single off is the worst thing, I think, that's ever happened for a security posture because as you mentioned, like, your Google is connected to literally everything. Right? So if a hacker can reverse engineer how to get into your Google and your SMS, they can still get into your stuff. Like, there is an ongoing scam where somebody will call you from Google, and they actually... They do SMS spoofing. So when it... When they call you, it actually says that's coming from the Google office, and they'll pretend they're, a security engineer or something like that. And it's legit. Like, the the guy who talks to you sounds confident. It doesn't sound like they're from, like, some call center or whatever. It's like... It sounds like a legit thing. And it it can be really scary for those who are unaware, especially the older folks. And, you know, like, even I, like, when I got this phone person, was like, this could maybe be, like, a real thing. But, obviously, I'm more cautious. I think if you really care about your security posture and you've got, like, high value assets connected to your phone or financial insurance or anything like that, I definitely recommend looking into getting something like a YubiKey. Because, like, the authenticator app is not foolproof by any stretch of the imagination, and it's connected to Google and Google's login system, which still exposes you to risk. If you want to reduce that risk, you get an external device like a YubiKey and use that as your authenticator system. Like, that that is currently, I think, the best way to go about it.
[1:11:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Yeah. Gamer, I hope you got all your shit back and there wasn't too much damage that was caused, bro. Oh, no. It it was all good.
[1:11:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It was only, like, 5,000, so I'm not worried about it.
[1:11:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Motherfucker. 5,000. I'd be killing somebody. They stole 5,000 from me. You know, these rich motherfuckers. 5,000. No big fucking deal. Alright, gamer. Fucking Jamie Diamond over here getting out fucking gold slippers out of this fucking... Go to the New York Yachts. Look. You got it, Kanter. No. No. The... No. It's just because
[1:12:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: what I... What what I'm saying is it could have been a lot worse.
[1:12:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. I think I I got that.
[1:12:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Thank you. Yeah.
[1:12:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can't they go for it, bro?
[1:12:29] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Oh, no. No. I was just saying now I feel a lot worse. I mean... Oh,
[1:12:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: for real. Know? I......
[1:12:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Walking around and then you trip and fall and $5 falls out of your pocket and down the little sewer grate thing.
[1:12:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Pick that up.
[1:12:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: It happens. It happens. Look. You could go fish it out, but, you know, maybe somebody else could use it.
[1:12:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Motherfuckers. Yeah. It's like clicking a house full out of your pocket. And Cool's like, yeah. I got 12. I got Let's move on.
[1:12:58] Bread @_ToastMalone: We didn't
[1:12:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: need the 13. 13 is unlucky. Oh, Dave, I need to make sure. If you haven't covered the most important news that came out today, did you see the the news, the guy Porter Trump just signed?
[1:13:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: The what?
[1:13:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is super important. He just signed the news.
[1:13:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's not a reporter meme coin flopper. Go ahead.
[1:13:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. So Trump has now ended the war on water pressure. So you can now actually take a shower with some decent water pressure.
[1:13:25] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Wait. What? Yeah. But you put you put it
[1:13:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: on top, Landy. I don't know. I haven't seen that yet.
[1:13:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: But but that's just... Is... Is that bullish?
[1:13:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's California. Right? That doesn't affect anybody else. Right?
[1:13:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have no idea.
[1:13:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: The meeting you went to?
[1:13:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. It's... Bro, like, between gamer and cool, like, y'all believe this? Not... Like, bro, you can't believe this... The craziness that comes out of this little man's fucking face. Look at him. He's a fucking puppet for fuck's sake. Oh my god. Meta Beast, save us, bro. What do you got? What's news in the metaverse, bro?
[1:13:58] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, shit. Wearable fashion or fashion Metaverse Fashion Week going on to... Started today in Decentraland. And it's been pretty... It's looking pretty good. There's been quite a few people coming through. I think I saw about a 100 and some at one point in time.
[1:14:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Metabeast, did you hear... In that decentral end space, can I tell y'all something really funny that I heard? And I would love to hear people's reaction.
[1:14:25] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Is it is it funnier than I'm over here by the girl... Where are you? I can't find you?
[1:14:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely funnier than that for sure. I mean, that was funny because you guys were, like, oblivious and, like, like, I don't even know. I mean, the fact that you spent all your time in the metaverse and you still couldn't find each other, that's the scarier part. But the part where she... There's a woman in there, she goes... I think was Dana. She goes, somebody told me that my agent was bullying their agent. And I'm like, man, did I did I just hear somebody say that somebody's agent was bullying somebody else's agent? And then somebody said, oh, yeah. We don't know how agents express themselves. Does anybody wanna make sense of this?
[1:15:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I thought the water pressure thing was funny.
[1:15:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You you did... Never mind. You you heard it. Metabies, you heard it.
[1:15:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. I I got I got in there late. I didn't know... Even know it was going at first. Oh, decentralization. Actually, I... No. Actually, I I I I was in a space while it started, but it was when I had to be in for what I've got coming in decentralization.
[1:15:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Verb... Verbatim. Somebody reached out to somebody in their DMs and said, your agent is bullying my agent. I don't know what the... If that meant in the if that meant in the comments or what, but then somebody followed it up with, yeah. You know, we don't really know how agents express themselves. Like, this is yet to be known. And I'm just like
[1:15:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, did did... Is that... But did their agent feel like he was being bullied by the other agent? Did the agent tell them that he was being... They were being bullied? Or is that something that that person saw and that's how they perceived it as being?
[1:16:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. No. The the AI agent identified as being bullied.
[1:16:14] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's what I was asking. Did the agent actually be... Say that that it it felt it was being bullied by this other agent?
[1:16:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm I'm gonna go out on a limb and just... This is a wild guess here and say that, no. I don't think the agent actually went back to the owner of the wall... Of the agent and said, hey. They're bullying me. What are gonna do about it?
[1:16:36] Sunny D @dylN0chill: What is wrong with you, miss?
[1:16:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Agent's already your agent to stand up for itself.
[1:16:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm I'm sorry. Can you guys look up top of what I just pinned? We have absolute degenerates running the White House.
[1:16:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's between the water pressure thing and now this.
[1:16:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't know. What reality do we live in where agents are bullying other agents and then people are talking about how agents express themselves and then the fight comes out
[1:17:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: sent me to have Trump.
[1:17:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait, Lindy. Ultimate
[1:17:07] Sunny D @dylN0chill: ultimate timeline, and the future is very bright.
[1:17:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. The White House... I don't know if it's not posting. I tried to post something earlier or link it to the top here.
[1:17:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Says No. I don't see it.
[1:17:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: But the White House has posted a picture of Donald Trump's presidential portrait, and it just says in all caps, let him cook.
[1:17:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, they... I didn't know where that was. Oh, they... Oh. Oh, the White House posted this. Let him cook. Yes. Shut up. Oh my god.
[1:17:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: So good.
[1:17:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's in the White House.
[1:17:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's amazing. That's it.
[1:17:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're like a fucking disease.
[1:17:48] Sunny D @dylN0chill: We just only run.
[1:17:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did they just hire, like, Gen z, like like, interns to run the White House? Yeah. You you never saw that. I forgot what interview special was, but he literally is sitting there, and he's just talking. And he has all the advisers around him, and there's some, like, 26 year old blonde on a fucking iPhone. It's just literally, like, typing, typing, typing away. And lit... Like, he's listening to Kamala talk on TV, giving the full tweet, and then she's sending it off. Like, in real, like, ping ping ping. I don't know. Like, bro, it was the... But, like, you could hear her fingers, like like, cooking. So maybe maybe she's gotta... She's a DJ in that heart.
[1:18:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Was that the Tucker Carlson thing where you the the the... Where they were doing, like, the documentary? Is that what you're talking about? Because that scene is pretty iconic.
[1:18:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Exactly. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Correct.
[1:18:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's amazing. And now we we clearly have degenerates in the White House. Like, how are
[1:18:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: you gonna let him cook? He's, you know, the
[1:18:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Landy, have you have you already talked about the Bitcoin resistance level?
[1:18:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Oh, woah. Woah. Woah. Relax. 8... 85,000.
[1:18:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I've been avoiding
[1:18:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: We can only fucking take so much. Let us enjoy this. Alright? Resistance levels. We're moving up. Okay? Let's give us a little... You know, it's green. We we like green.
[1:19:05] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I I think 85 k looks good.
[1:19:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: It does. 89 k is the target, though, that needs to be beat on a weekly and especially a day that's the last lower high.
[1:19:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I say a 107.
[1:19:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait for the higher lows.
[1:19:19] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Love this Wait
[1:19:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: for the higher low.
[1:19:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Always. Always. Higher low equal low is what you need to see from here. Folks, if you haven't been paying attention, we're in a bit of a weird spot in the market. So you might wanna, you know, maybe not take the first green candle and and maybe, you know, you wanna wait for confirmation, but it just depends on who you are. You do what you do, not financial advice. But I can tell you that it's certainly not dull.
[1:19:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: There ain't a dull moment to be had with Let him
[1:19:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: cook. Let him That's incredible. That is amazing. Yo. Shout out to shout out to my boy down there, the Bitcoin Bro Bears. Yo. It it takes to... Yo. If you're if you're a Rune's project, to come into a crypto room... Let me tell you something. You either got a death wish or you have the biggest balls out here on the street. And BroBears, I love the fact that you guys are here. Shout out to you. Like, incredible stuff. Like, any Rune's project that is literally peeking their head out right now being like, wait. Should I go? Should... Like, as they say, crazy. Crazy. But, bro, I love the fact you're out here, and I can't wait to see the crazy and wild... More wild shit that you guys start conjuring up, man. So shout out to you. Guys, we got eight minutes before Cool gets into his cool ass living room. Anything that... What's new on the Kaito front? Fucking coma that I know you're always cooking over there? I got some more... I actually don't have any more quack invites. I'm all quacked out. I know I am quacked out at twelve.
[1:20:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have one left.
[1:20:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: There's a report button. Sorry. Wait.
[1:20:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Just announcement. I have one quack invite left. Oh. If you two wanna become a quack, comment. Landy is the greatest technical analyst on the plan. No. I'm just kidding. Just
[1:21:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: I will give you all the greatest quack in technical No.
[1:21:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not gonna do that. No. Look. I... You have to meet the score, and no one... I've got... I... I've I've offered this this quack to other people, and they have turned... They've declined my quack invite. So
[1:21:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Bread might need one. Bread Right. I think bread... Yeah. No. Bread qualifies. I haven't checked out game... Wait. You probably gave one to game. It's Bubbuddy. You gave one to game.
[1:21:34] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, I don't have any quacks.
[1:21:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't
[1:21:35] Bread @_ToastMalone: know what
[1:21:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what I'm saying. Give one, like, bread. I don't know if Trav qualifies.
[1:21:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I thought I checked everybody that comes here, and everybody either had it or they didn't qualify.
[1:21:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see how Sunny disappeared? See how Sunny d disappeared? He's one... He's literally won one of, like, my quack giveaway. He was the first person I pulled the last three giveaways that I did. Yeah. He hasn't hasn't made the cut. Sonivia, I hope you want to go read the FAQs, bro. Gotta get your... You got time to get the score up. Future's not looking so bright if you don't got as many quacks as you need to be, bro.
[1:22:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Fred, you're quackless? Let me look. What's your Quackless, bro. I've Because, I you can you can just give away quacks. I mean, you all give
[1:22:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys don't put any advice.
[1:22:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: Give it. This this project is is next Kaito. This is like a a Kaito version, so you should do very, very well, miss. If you have your quacks early, you will do very, very well.
[1:22:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, so pay it forward. Right? Lainly, maybe give it to bread, and then bread, you gotta give one away to somebody else in this space.
[1:22:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Done, bro. I can do that.
[1:22:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: I got you. I got you. Yeah. You you you meet... You you definitely meet the criteria. Holy shit. Okay. Yeah. You definitely meet the criteria. Now you've got three quacks that you can give away.
[1:22:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: Sick. Quack quack. Oh.
[1:22:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hold on. Manny, did you see the, Justin, Canada agrees to negotiate a new trade deal with The United States?
[1:22:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Of course. Why would they not? They're America's hat. If they don't negotiate,
[1:23:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: they're cut out of the oil
[1:23:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: deal. We ain't gonna refine their oil and send it back to you.
[1:23:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I've never heard that before. He said they're America's hot.
[1:23:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I said that for someone very specific in the audience. And, also, I see J Dog just popped up. You have an impostor that keeps following me and unfollowing me,
[1:23:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: and it's bugging the shit out of
[1:23:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: me, But I'm still letting them do it to see how much fun they can have.
[1:23:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: He'll... Yeah. Hey, Dev. Just so you know, to my Canadians out here, man, like, listen. Landy's views are not necessarily my views, but that shit was funny. Like, that was funny.
[1:23:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: The person person that was aimed at already already DM'd me that I'm a piece of shit asshole. Yeah.
[1:23:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's so good. America's hat. You gotta love it. You gotta love it. Shout out LJ. What up? No credits. What's good? Build out, Drew. AG, congrats. Great pitch the other day, bro. AMP, what's up? Dev, Ace, I see you. Carrie, what's good? Zach, what's cooking? Paul's here. Nifty boy's here. Shiv, Thor. This is so crazy that we actually call out these, like, wild ass names. You know what I mean? Like, whatever happened to whatever happened to, like, the good normal names, like, the kids used to have? Like David or land... No. Landy's not one of them. Or cool.
[1:24:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Hey. You mean Darvin?
[1:24:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's Well, Randy's such a good name that there's two of us, and you... And now you know both of us.
[1:24:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's crazy is, like, what your lit... Your handles are literally crypto landy and NFT landy. Like, that's like... I mean, yeah, that was that was wild. Meta Beast, you got anything else for us? We haven't gotten any satirical advertisements from you recently. Are you I sent you one.
[1:24:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: When? Last week.
[1:24:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I played it, though.
[1:24:57] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. Not that one.
[1:24:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which one? Oh, I played two. Wait. There's another one?
[1:25:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yes. There... I've sent those last two I sent you. There's one more. I sent... I DM'd you. Uh-huh. There's there's there's... Yeah.
[1:25:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: What have you done for me lately? It's an attention economy, Metabeast, and Excuse me. It's Wednesday.
[1:25:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You know? When you don't pay attention to what somebody does for you, that doesn't mean they didn't do something for you.
[1:25:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shit.
[1:25:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: You weren't
[1:25:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: paying You're right.
[1:25:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You're wrong.
[1:25:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: In the attention economy, bro. What's wrong with you?
[1:25:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What have you done for me lately?
[1:25:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: For that, you have to go into Decentraland. You have to actually go inside it.
[1:25:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was in Decentraland, bro. Like, I can't go within When? Of, like, anywhere, any property in Decentraland. Do you do you see what I look like, bro?
[1:25:44] Bread @_ToastMalone: You're on the defensive list, bro.
[1:25:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That sucks. I'm on the decentral list exactly. Like, it is not gonna... Like, I'm on the offender list, bro. Like, I went in with the biggest, like, Jew fro with, like, a random ass earring, cuffed up corduroys with these weird ass shoes, and you see me running through. And they caught me on tape. Mona, Gex, they fucking snapped me, bro. Meanwhile, like, it was... Bro, guy's a bad rap. Me and Mona were making out... Like, our avatars were making out underneath the thing, and it was like, she done... She'll deny it to this day, but whatever. I know... We both know what happened.
[1:26:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: Does does someone complain about your avatars making out or your AI agents making out? Out? And then
[1:26:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was just... You know, I got out of there quick because, like, I didn't want a harassment charge. You know
[1:26:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: what mean? You you thought it was you thought it was Mona's avatar, but it was probably Michael's.
[1:26:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. Trust me. You could have seen what Mona was wearing at her own birthday party. Oh my god. Alright. What else? Everything else good. Shout out. Matasco's here, Jdogg. Brett, you
[1:26:47] Kkoma @itskkoma: gotta do a Twitter pic. I got I got one. I got one.
[1:26:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:26:50] Kkoma @itskkoma: There's two things. Have you heard of Protocols? P r o t o k o
[1:26:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: l s? You're, like, six months late on that one, bro. No. No. No. They're they're doing, like,
[1:26:58] Kkoma @itskkoma: a q one recap screenshot, which tells you, like, how many impressions you got, like, followers, like, most mentions, and things like that. I... I'll send you Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
[1:27:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: They won't let me stop. In the Telegram bot? Telegram bot?
[1:27:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: You could generate through the Telegram bot. So... And then... Yeah. I think this is pretty helpful, especially for wall chain because wall chain is all about, like, what projects are you bullish on long term. So if you don't even know what you're bullish on long term, then you could use this AI tool to help you. So And then for Kaido, Kaido, I think they just released some post about you could now report other people for being bad actors. So if you find someone that
[1:27:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: is Oh my god. This is like Canada during COVID. It's like your favorite.
[1:27:43] Sunny D @dylN0chill: To earn his butt. Snitched to earn. Yes.
[1:27:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's crazy, bro. Snitched to earn. This is wild.
[1:27:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Wait. Is that the new meta? I
[1:27:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't know. This guy
[1:27:52] Sunny D @dylN0chill: That's Is that the new album? Like, some pizza pets vibes.
[1:27:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Snitch to earn. I can't believe they're bringing this back, but they did this in Canada for COVID. My sister went through this shit. It's like, oh, so neighbors will rat you out and be like, oh, too many people in that.
[1:28:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: I thought the IRS did that all the time.
[1:28:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did you miss Sunny d taking a taking a shot across the bow to hit me in this... In the soft spot?
[1:28:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I... Oh my god. I totally missed it. Sunny d, I'm sorry. Please hit him again.
[1:28:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. He was clearly gunning for you with this one. This was this was a shot at at at DC... Hold
[1:28:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: on.
[1:28:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let me get this. DCBDDDCBK2LA. Sunny d just took a shot at you. Sir, do you have a response to the, Pizza Pets comment?
[1:28:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You talking shit about Pizza Pets? You are talking shit... Where where is... Is it in the comments? Let me see.
[1:28:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. He said it out loud. Right?
[1:28:48] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Well, I had my hands tied because I was, like, jumping from walking into car and then the Bluetooth situation, and then I heard you talking about how I had to go down because I had to, like, do my homework or something about something like... You guys are talking about, like, yappers. I don't even know what that is, but it's... It sounds like pizzas pizzas Oh,
[1:29:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: the boy. Vibe I'm getting. Oh, okay. Okay. I see how I see where this is going. Okay. Listen, guys. That's... When you get to the top, sometimes there's always gonna be people that are gonna be looking... You know, they're looking up at you, and this is gonna be... You know? And you want them to come up with you, but you can't you can't you can't do it for them. You know what I mean? You guys gotta gotta let you gotta let them... Come on. You could, you know, get a shout and encourage them and do it for yourself. Bread for fuck's sake. Give away this fucking quack already.
[1:29:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: Who's... You got a Twitter picture set up or some shit? I don't have one.
[1:29:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I'm just about to sit down and eat dinner. I don't got that shit set. Anybody? Anybody have a Twitter pic or so? If you didn't retweet the space, better go retweet it, like, ASAP right now so you could be eligible. Actually, it's either you're gonna be eligible or embarrassed. Is this a win win situate? Like, I don't feel like this is not like... People are like, oh, I'm gonna win. Do I wanna win?
[1:30:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I feel like... So I I like that that when you do find people, they can give it up. But at some point, you're gonna run into, like, where we all hit a cap. Like, you go through and, like, okay. Now he's got three to give away, and then those people have three to give away. And then we're just gonna run out of people because you can't invite anybody else because they're all below the 50. Like
[1:30:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: If that's the way you think, if you really play that out in your brain and we're taking Bitcoin advice from you, I think we have a very big problem. Oh. Extremely gated three invites. I'm I'm literally begging these guys to... All my quacks are referral quacks. I have four earned quacks, but yet I have 48 quacks.
[1:30:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, I Well, that's
[1:30:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's how we make a living out here, Lane.
[1:30:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Listen. Listen. I just don't know where the ceiling is for quack invites. That's what I'm trying to figure out here.
[1:30:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ceiling? There's no... Right right now, we're sitting on the floor.
[1:30:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I I mean, like, how many people are we gonna be able to give it away to before we run out of people that just don't have the score to invite anymore? And you're just like You're
[1:31:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: afraid to run out of friends? Is that what you're saying?
[1:31:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: You never have friends.
[1:31:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's what I'm trying
[1:31:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: to say, Dave, is I literally had to do a call
[1:31:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: out on stage. I didn't wanna get
[1:31:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: to this point, but I literally... I'm friendless. I'm friendless. That's the truth. I literally gave away these other two invites to to to Twitter homeless people. Alright? Like, they were they were begging on the side of the road, and I was like, here you go. Turns out they went back, and they got in their Ferraris, and they drove away.
[1:31:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm gonna pay forward my quacks to Landy.
[1:31:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Thank you, sir. No. No. No. What what is a... No. No. I'll take a pause.
[1:31:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can't
[1:31:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Reinvite me. I'll get one.
[1:31:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can't stop a quack. It's crazy. Alright. Who's got the Twitter picker? Landy? Gamer? Gamer, it's only fitting that you, for the bonehead move of, like, you know, getting obviously port swapped. Dick.
[1:31:47] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Sounds like a pyramid scheme.
[1:31:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Right? Yo. It does.
[1:31:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: You probably didn't make the cut either, did you?
[1:31:54] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I could care less, honestly.
[1:31:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. You sound it.
[1:32:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fucking unbelievable. I never heard mediocrity sound like this is... Guys, I'm just kidding. Wait. Hills came up. Hills, what's up, man?
[1:32:13] HILLS💊💊 @Hills_CU: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Jim Yeah. Cole.
[1:32:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's like, goddamn, I was not expecting to be lit up on stage that quick. Normally, it's like a seven hour waiting period in cool spaces. What's up, c? What... What's up, bro? You good?
[1:32:32] HILLS💊💊 @Hills_CU: Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. I'm... I just thought the Trump announcement and the time line was yours. Everybody was... We are back. We are back and everything. So I'm happy. I'm waiting for some good teaching coming up, and, hopefully, you are going to get USDT.
[1:32:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Retweet the space, bro. You might have a chance at winning a quack or getting embarrassed. Matt, I see you down there. What's up, bro? It's good to see you as well. Is somebody gonna pull out a freaking Twitter picker so I could eat my damn hamburgers or what? Anyone? You know what? Man, if you want something, you gotta do it yourself. Now I'm just gonna fucking pretend I'm pulling out a Twitter picker and just scroll down, and then just pick some random person. Maybe it's not so random. Oh, look. Didn't believe you. I was gonna build it up a little bit. You know? Guys, Cool has already been in his fucking living room for five minutes already. Like, let him live. Bread, can you check if... Well, I'm just gonna call it out. Matasco. If Matasco makes the cut, Matasco wins, bro. Cryptic underscore Chelsea. How you gonna have a name like Matasco, then your handle is... I'm one to talk, d c b k two l a.
[1:33:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It
[1:33:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: is what it is. Mystic... Or what is it? Mystic... Sorry. Cryptic underscore Chelsea. Does he qualify, Brett?
[1:33:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: What did he have to
[1:33:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: do to qualify? Retweet,like,com Oh, you have to you have to... Oh, wait.
[1:33:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Qualifies. He has a 100 score.
[1:34:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. 50 is the is the qualifying score.
[1:34:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know he has a 100.
[1:34:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Matasco has a 100?
[1:34:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Matasco has a 100. Of course.
[1:34:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's fucking go. Done and done. Matasco, congrats, bro. Let's go.
[1:34:11] Trav @trav_4211: Alright. Yeah.
[1:34:12] Bread @_ToastMalone: Just DM me your... I guess... I don't know. Yeah. Just fucking.
[1:34:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. You actually have to DM him. You gotta log in to the quacks. That's dude. Your app, and when it says invite. Yep.
[1:34:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Brad's like, I have to do shit. What? I'm just
[1:34:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: trying to give shit away. What do you mean
[1:34:24] Bread @_ToastMalone: I gotta, like, do things?
[1:34:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: You actually have to send it off, bro. Anyways, alright. Kids, dinnertime. Landy, thank you for obviously tuning in. Cool. Great show. Brad, appreciate you obviously doing the giveaway. Wait. Who won?
[1:34:38] Bread @_ToastMalone: Wait. Where is it so I can see their hand?
[1:34:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: The fuck. Unbelievable. I'll I'll DM you.
[1:34:42] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, there we go. Thank you.
[1:34:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cryptic underscore Chelsea Mystic under... Something like that. Anyways, Sunny d, I love you, bro. Trav, thank you. Coma. Your hair's purple. Gamer, I animated your fucking wizard, by the way, in in Hydra. It's the funniest thing when you see him, pouring beer on his own head. It's incredible. Meta Beast, as always. Man. Resident... Yeah. Resident engagement farmer, Gem Hunter. Love having you here too. Hills, good morning.
[1:35:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Anyone else?
[1:35:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: We should just bring Matasco up next
[1:35:22] Sunny D @dylN0chill: week. Have
[1:35:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: him give away his...
[1:35:26] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I'm telling you. When we when we go from having serious conversations about, like, AI, and all of a sudden, we're talking about quacks. This is why people don't listen to us. I'm just kidding. Pleasure speaking with everybody. Dave, thank you so much.
[1:35:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fucking quacks.

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