All Things Crypto: A Memecoin Will Fund a U.S. Pres. Campaign?

# All Things Crypto: A Memecoin Will Fund a U.S. Pres. Campaign? | 2025-05-01 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1rmxPyrdlVbKN | status: approved
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[0:03:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up, everybody? Welcome to ATC, ladies and gents. I can't see who's... Is it me? Maybe it's that one. What's going on? Maybe I'm just not seeing everybody, but what's up, guys? Happy Thursday. Last day of the week,. Yo. What's up, Jared? How are doing, man? You good?
[0:03:56] Voice C: Fantastic, brother. Fantastic.
[0:03:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit, man. Hang tight for a second. I gotta go through the roasting of my of my my regulars here, you know, my my valuable contributors. I mean, say hello. That... That's what I meant. I mean, to say hello, obviously, like, to my valuable contributors here that are obviously always adding tons of value and tons of fucking headaches to my life. So, cool. What's good, bro?
[0:04:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. What's up, guys? How you guys doing? Happy new month, man. Yeah. I'm ready to go. Let's go. Let's do it.
[0:04:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Landy. I couldn't tell. Is that iPhone or Android? That... I think that's kinda borderline. Right? I feel like that might be Android. What do you say, Landy? Android or iPhone?
[0:04:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: That that had to have been an iPhone.
[0:04:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. What was it? I it's the Android. Yeah. Told you, bro. The Android. That mic don't sound the same, bro. Apple pays big money, bro. They flew in that plane from China quick quick with all those good mics. You know what I'm saying? Right before those tariffs went into play. Anyways, Landy, what's up, bro?
[0:04:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up, brother? Just... I'm having fun. I'm having fun with some of the news that has been dropping today that, you know, we kinda suspected it was coming, but there's a there's a lot of good news. Various ecosystems that we're fans of, so it's been a fun day.
[0:05:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that. I like that. I really... Haven't seen... I haven't been paying attention to too much news. I've just been literally bouncing around space space space. Mandy, I feel like you today. Space space space.
[0:05:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know. Right?
[0:05:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I swear, bro. I'm roaming nova. Yeah. I'm a roaming nova. I only hosted one space today. Like, this is my second space. Feel like it's like, oh, light work now. The rest of the day, was just kinda, like, bouncing back in, like, all over the place. I'm like, oh, what's going on over here? Oh, what's up over here? You know? Piece of candy. Good shit. Koma, welcome. You're now on official probation. Just FYI, you said you apologize for being late yesterday. We are definitely docking your fucking pay, but whatever. It's fine. What's up? Hey, man.
[0:05:56] Kkoma @itskkoma: I had a a red eye flight, and now I'm on the road traveling. So, hey, I'm committed to this. Just You have
[0:06:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: a note from your doctor?
[0:06:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: So, yeah, I'm I'm... My mic is not really good right now,
[0:06:07] Chris Dev @chris_devv: so this might be in and out until my... Airplug.
[0:06:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. There it is. Right in the flesh. He's like, wait. No. Good. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:06:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's how we have a first day.
[0:06:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's how
[0:06:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: we have a first day. Just like me almost.
[0:06:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Welcome, guys. The cubby holes are in the back. Okay? The blocks are this way. For fuck's sake, the helmets are in the corner. Psychos. Sunny d, what's up?
[0:06:37] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yo. Just a great great Thursday. It was awesome. I'm coming off of another space that was featuring a in game or a gaming platform that's built on Tron. Was super impressed. We'll have to have it over here on ATC at some point because you can play games and wager. It's a fun way to interact and meet people. And, if you like playing, like, games like Candy Crush or Snake or there's some first person shooter games, it's a neat neat platform. I'll I'll give you the intro. But, yeah, great day. It was awesome. I'm with the space this morning with you. Let's get into it.
[0:07:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Good shit, son. I need d in the building. And ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce my MVP of the day. Okay? Drumroll, please. Drumroll, please. Anyone? Nothing? Assholes. Meta Beast, you're fucking incredible, bro. Meta Beast, thank you for what you do. I I need everybody to take a page out of the Meta Beast book because this is the way you can actually very much contribute to the success of ATC. We do this for free every single day. So to my speakers up here, obviously, duh. Fucking, don't know what the hell I paid them for. And to every listener down below as well, tag companies, founders, people, topics. I don't care. Tag everyone and anyone that you want in the comments so that at least, like, now we're starting to make some noise. I'm not sitting here being like, we have to get trending. I don't care. I just want people to... The people that we wanna talk to, I don't know who you genuine... Like, what questions you guys have. So if you're not gonna come up on stage, make your voice heard in a different way. Put your stuff, like, literally, like, anything... I mean, not anything. Like, people put some wild shit in the comment. Don't get too crazy. But you guys know what I'm saying. Right? Like, Meta Beast literally commented and tagged. Like, I think it was one of the heads... Like, one of the... I don't know if it was the founder or, like
[0:08:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I think it's CEO.
[0:08:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: There you go. The CEO of this of this stellar organization. Right? For those that know XLM. And we don't really talk much about XLM in these space, like, at least down here in the trenches at all. What we do here is, like, oh, they're tokenizing the whole fucking world and Franklin Templeton and billions of dollars in freaking treasuries and money market funds. No big deal. I wanna talk to that person. Right? They don't know we exist. Right? I say ATC, and people literally go, what? I want ATC to be a household name. Three letter acronym. We have enough dumbass acronyms out here, and I fought with cool enough to not name this show Blockchain Bahamas for us to be able to say ATC should be known across the crypto Twitter sphere. Okay? So, Meta Beast, I extend my gratitude for you. And you guys know I'm thankful for everybody, every speaker up here and, obviously, everyone that comes through. But goddamn it. Let's fucking do more. Like, I'm I'm demanding more out of you guys the same way that I want you to demand more out of me. Let's have... Let's foster these incredible conversations. That's what we want. I can't listen to myself talk anymore. Shit. MetaMeat, what's up? Well, I
[0:09:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: don't have time for any news, but besides setting the bar for everyone up here, just preparing a comeback for once you're done with yours.
[0:09:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: He said, I don't got time for news. Goddamn. He really took the compliment and ran with it. He was like, by the way, I quit. Like, what? What do you mean you don't got time for the news? What kind of shit is this? This is crazy. Oh my god. Now... But, Meta Beast, thank you. Thank you for doing that. I love seeing, like, the... That that kind of, like, initiative to just really push us all forward. Right? Like like, let's do that. I commented underneath it being like, hey. Here's a great reason why. And that's the way you earn yaps and quacks and fucking daps. You guys hear what we talk about all the time. That's the shit that I'm talking about. But, yeah, good shit, MetaBeast. Jared, we got the crane account in the building today. Jared, what's up, man? Introduce yourself to the ATC crew, bro.
[0:10:32] Voice C: Yo. Yo. Yo. What's up all ATC OGs, friends, neighbors, countrymen? Thanks for having me on. I am Jared, founder of Crane, and we're building some cool shit, and we're having a great time. And, you know, we're out here just hanging with our crypto peeps, you know, just kicking it and talking about all this degenerate stuff that we love. So happy to be here. Happy to discuss all things crypto. So we're here. Let's do it.
[0:11:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. And, guys, we're gonna get into... We'll we'll we'll talk a little bit about what Crane does a little bit later. They got a pretty dope founder key mint coming up that will will definitely go into a little bit more detail. But I figured today... Landy, kick us off. I don't know what you're seeing in the markets. I have not been in the markets, obviously, you know, probably for the majority of the week just until I get my wallet straightened out. But give us, if you can, like, the low low, and then what I'd really like us to do is kinda go over our AI plays, like, what you guys are looking at because there's no avoiding this anymore. Right? Like, I genuinely want people to, like, really understand, like, where are the opportunities. And even if it's not something that you own, where do you maybe see some potential opportunities to be able to go through this stuff? And Gamer is eleven minutes late. This is gonna be his new fucking calling card.
[0:11:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Do you your lead in? Do want your lead in first?
[0:11:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. Yes. Yes. Yes. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, guys. We have a fucking... I totally forgot. That'd be my fault.
[0:11:57] Voice E: You're
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[0:14:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know where you come up with it, but the rest of you lazy fucks that couldn't bother to throw up a goddamn emoji, you suck. Just FYI. All of you. Metabeast, that was fucking great. Thank you very much. Amazing stuff. Let's go. Gamer, you're on probation. Sorry. It might not have taken effect last episode, but let's say you're on probation now. And, yeah, you're gonna have to hang out down there. Cool. Stop letting Gamer out, bro. Oh my god. Man, you give us the breakdown before fucking gamer gets started.
[0:14:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Alright. Well, listen. Market's obviously green today. Bitcoin taking everything with it to the upside. We had traditional markets green as well. This was to be expected after numbers yesterday kinda came in a little bit more positive, after the GDP numbers initially got everybody very upset, which really was not that big of a deal because we kinda knew this was gonna happen based on the month over month that was coming into the quarter over quarter. So traditional markets set it up. Bitcoin decided it was going to start moving up, on... You know, right up above, $96,000, 95, 96. Now it's consolidating above there. We'll see if it continues up to the 100,000... 99 to a $100,000 area. If not, just gotta watch. You know, 93.5 is is the kind of the base that this kinda lifted off from. So if it heads back down there, likely, we're gonna make a downside move. But more importantly, there's big news, and that is that, SBTC is gonna be heading over to SUI Network. So...
[0:15:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep.
[0:15:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. They've been cooking for a while. And, you know, we kinda suspected this was gonna be the next big one, and this is the next big one. The Bitcoiners are coming. We are coming for everything. We're gonna reach out and touch your network, and that's what we're excited about, at least over here in Bitcoin land. And we'll see if the markets can hold up through the end of the week as we do have more economic data coming out. So be prepared. Head on a swivel.
[0:16:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: What did you say? We're coming to touch your what?
[0:16:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: We're coming to touch your network. You know? Little little little boop. If you've been watching the boop stuff, we're gonna boop
[0:16:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: your network. A little little pervy. A little little
[0:16:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: and Stacks. Come on, man. I told him, here we go. He's gonna he's gonna try to go ahead. I knew he wasn't gonna let me do it. I knew it. And you caught yourself midway, so, like, I'll give you the point for that. But go ahead, game. I'm a let I'm a let you go. Go for it.
[0:16:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What's up, everyone? It's it's hot as shit right now in the Bay Area. 63 degrees. Not ready for this thing to start warming up.
[0:17:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Is it a
[0:17:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: sunny day?
[0:17:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And that's your weather forecast for the day. Thank you.
[0:17:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Thank your weather forecast for retweet
[0:17:13] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: the room. Please like and retweet the room, please.
[0:17:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hey. But I I would say the biggest rumor was the Nvidia rumor.
[0:17:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's gonna step on the suey fucking story, Sophie. He's not even gonna let us do the store... The suey fucking story.
[0:17:31] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: He had to get it in before somebody else mentioned it, he was late to the call.
[0:17:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But the suit... No. The suit and news is great. I did see that... What was the chances? Were you gonna drop six
[0:17:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: more headlines while we're at it at this at this point?
[0:17:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. Because because I did see that they... The Bloomberg Intelligence data came out. I'm just trying to find where it's at. Because they did give a percentage of, like, what they thought... Where is it at? Shit. I can't find it now. Because someone... I can't remember who. Was it Twenty One Capital that filed for the SUI ETF? And they were saying that the odds of approval are actually pretty good. Twenty one shares.
[0:18:14] Voice E: Yeah. Oh,
[0:18:14] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: okay. Yeah. So that that that would definitely be some big, you know, big news for SUI.
[0:18:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What are some of the Sui plays? What are... Lendi, what are some of the... Or Gamer, whatever, like, anybody. Like, what are some of the Sui plays other than, like, the native, like, Sui token that, like, maybe is, like, a little bit lower price at maybe, like, a DEX or, like, what should we be looking at? Because, like, I'm literally not... I think I've been... I plan on the Zui ecosystem maybe once or twice, bro. Like, I'm so new. So can you maybe fill everybody in on, like like like, where are we looking for Zui?
[0:18:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, man. I I have a bunch of tokens over there, but the only ones that I can recall the name the names of off top of my head are Meme Coins, and that would be Oh, for fuck's sake. Yeah. That would be your your Brett and your loafies and stuff. Then there's... I don't know. Those are... One of those is base. But there
[0:19:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: is Maybe Coolhat. Maybe Coolhat.
[0:19:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Coolhat. Coolhat knows some the other tokens.
[0:19:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do we... Ecosystem, are you exposed? And if so, to what? And if not, do you know, like, where should we... Where could we be looking?
[0:19:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes, sir. Sorry. I'll try to look low back as a phone. Yeah. No. SUI SUI is doing a spin, man. A lot of CBO increased money being raised over there. Edge ops are big... They are very, very big. Yeah. So as of right now, I'm not too active on. I I I... The best way, honestly, guys, find these projects are probably use the deeper level. Deeper level will show you the projects with the. But, actively, I'm
[0:19:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: not
[0:19:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: actively... I'm indirectly on it, but not directly. That makes sense.
[0:19:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It does.
[0:19:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I own them. I... All I can tell you is I own an absolute boatload, truckload. I don't know. A freight train load of SUI. So I'm very happy to see that this is a nice partnership. So
[0:20:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, just just from the DeFi side, I'm looking at DeFi Lama. On SUI, they're night... Like, in terms of, I guess, they got 62 total, like, DeFi protocols.
[0:20:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Why does it show zero active addresses? Are they just not...
[0:20:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Or maybe they're just not pulling in the addresses. But set over seven days of 26%, it's... The trailing only Bitcoin, that's crazy, man. One month chain of 54%. I don't know. Maybe that's the Pokemon news, but, man, I wish Samar was here. I know Samar is heavy heavy into... I think it was... Was it Walrus is is one of the Sui, like, dexes?
[0:20:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Thank you. I was trying to remember
[0:20:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: what Yeah. The the Walrus was...
[0:20:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes.
[0:20:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. That's that's one of the... It's pretty decent sized market cap also.
[0:20:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Am I
[0:20:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: the only one that laughs every time someone says sui?
[0:20:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're not. Chop suey. Wee. Yeah. I don't even know. What does what does that actually mean? What does... Does anybody know what suey?
[0:21:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wal... Walrus is 826,000,000 per market cap, so it's not bad.
[0:21:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. SuiLend is is 613,000,000 TVL, up 60% over the last month. Bro, the Sui ecosystem is on fire, bro. Navi protocol at 52%, bucket protocol up 47%, and it's like... I mean, there's 100... Like, none of those names I just rattled off have less than a 100,000,000 in TVL, which is kind of freaking nuts, dude. Like, this is I gotta start looking at this stuff more, man. For real. For real.
[0:21:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I I used I used Cetus or Cetus. I'm not even sure how to say it correctly, as, like, their swaps and stuff. They're... They also have, they have good, you... Good stable coin liquidity pools over there and stuff to contribute to and earn on. So, like, it... There's a few things here and there, but I just don't... I I haven't really played in ecosystem. I'm excited to do so, actually. There's more things happening now. But, you know, it's it's been branded as the gaming chain. So I'm very interested to see kinda where things go considering that they've been just dropping news like crazy the past couple of weeks.
[0:22:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what's interesting to see is, like, SuiLend. Right? You you could learn so much. Just... I'm literally just looking at the protocol, the d five protocol rankings on... For the different protocols on Sui. SuiLend has 620,000,000 in TVL. They have a hun... 1,530,000 in spot volume. That's $1,500,000 in spot volume. There's another token that's Bluefin, which is the sixth ranked one that has a 100,000,000 in TVL that has 54,000,000 in twenty four hour volume. So there's just these anomalies when I look around, like, just like... There's so much to be had. Have y'all seen also, like, Alpaca Finance? What the fuck is going on? Like, the... Are some of these... Are we missing, like, massive calls here? Because Alpaca Finance is up, like, 1800% out here. Like like, this is the shit we need to be talking about, guys. Okay? So new homework assigned. No. I'm just kidding. But anything else on the Sui side? Like, that, like, that maybe... Apparently, like, like, we are not the Sui experts. I mean, that's for sure. So take no Sui advice from any of us. We are all kind of brand new to this shit. So... Yeah. Anybody else have anything to add on that front? Landy, maybe you can go ahead with the stacks actual story.
[0:23:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's good. You know, not not really. The the important part, that that really obviously caught my eye is that SBTC is gonna be headed to SUI. So... Or SWE, depending on who's saying it. But what does that mean? I mean, this this means that Bitcoin liquidity is going to be making its way to yet another chain, and this is this is just laying the groundwork for the future and having a decentralized, Bitcoin pegged, wrapped coin. Right? Like, you have all of our other wrapped coins that are out there for Bitcoin that are on these various chains that are... Really have massive amounts of, issues when it comes to, the... These attack vectors and, and backing. And here you have SBTC, which is really the only, one to one backed decentralized Bitcoin wrapper. Right? So this on stacks now making its way to other networks. Obviously, we've had Solana, on deck and Aptos. SUI is the next natural move with, with obviously the Aptos stuff. And this is... You know, Bitcoiner liquidity coming to these other chains is a really, really big deal because unlocking that liquidity for Bitcoin is the future. And it's the future of, not just Bitcoin Bitcoin Fi as it's been termed or Bitcoin DeFi, but just DeFi in general. Being able to unlock that's gonna have a lot of really big implications for the future, especially for corporations that are holding for, you know, actually earning, on that balance sheet. It's gonna be just being able to borrow, lend, earn all of this different stuff with Bitcoin and enabling Bitcoin DeFi is going to be far beyond just the way that we would use it because there are institutional products that are being built on these chains that are gonna make things much more accessible to mom and pop shops, to prop shops, to corporations, businesses, and anyone that wants to put Bitcoin on their balance sheet. I think that this is going to really begin to hit stride in the next few months and, yeah, gonna change the world once again.
[0:26:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big facts. Yeah, man. I think, like, this is... Bro, I've been hearing stacks more and more in non stack spaces, Landy. Like, I haven't heard that in a really long time, dude, in a really long time. I was in a in a wolf Bitcoin space this morning with with Nakib and and Brotocol. I was like, Nakib, you... I didn't know it was Nakib behind that. I was like, what the fuck is Brotocol? But, bro, he's looking to try and solve, like, the whole, like, you know, ethyl two Bitcoin ethyl two fucking fragmentation problem, which is dope. You know? And it keeps a crazy one, bro. Like, this dude is, like, hell bent on succeeding. So... Yeah. Like, he's he's... Like, bro, out of his mouth, he was like, yeah. I think Stacks is pretty much... Someone asked about the most, like, trust minimized bridge. And he's like, I'm I'm pretty sure Stacks has pretty much got got everybody beeped, and it's by a mile. And I was like, wow. Like, you know what I mean? It's by
[0:26:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: it's by country mile, bro. Let's say it's by miles at this point. And I think that this has been proven out. I mean, we know what just happened with Babylon. Right? Babylon liquidity went where? Sweet. Right? Why? Well, because they needed they needed to branch out because, you know, the way that the that the protocol is constructed for how that they're utilizing Bitcoin as as a security layer, you have to have enough chains in order to to to back the rewards that you're gonna give out. Right? And they're... The way that they... Now they're running into the actual brick walls of of actually securing and and having transactional liquidity to pass down to those that are locking up their Bitcoin. Stocks doesn't have that problem. It's already... You're you're already getting the reward yield on it, and now it's gonna go out after all of these things are set in place. And and there's no there's no token launch that's needed on the other side of that. Stacks is already powering the network layer. This is like... It's already it's already so far ahead in in in this game that, it's not hard to to go and make these deals. And then now it's about, you know, getting the coin over there, you know, buffing up that liquidity on these other chains. And before you know it, we're gonna have Stacks, Bitcoin, and who knows, maybe other things from Stacks heading over to other chains and the cross chain compatibility and bridging and all kinds of cool stuff that I don't think people are looking at. Everyone's got blinders on. And meanwhile, when everybody's playing... Paying attention to the casino, you've got AI that's being built everywhere and all kinds of crazy stuff happening there. You've got Bitcoin bridges just going everywhere. You've got decentralized Bitcoin pairs going everywhere, deals being made behind the scenes, and then all of a sudden, it's gonna unfurl into this big beautiful world that no one's even paying attention to while they're all in the casino.
[0:28:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. Big fact, dude. I'm just like, this is... The the narrative hasn't changed at the end of the day for Stacks. Right? Like, we're so inflow... Easily influenced by, like, price movements that at the end of the day, like, you lost sight. No fundamentals have changed. Like, they opened up withdrawals for SBTC, and out of 3,000 BTC, people withdrew $6.06 Bitcoin out of 3,000 after being locked up for months. That tells me there was a massive overwhelming demand for people wanting to earn yield on their freaking Bitcoin, and it is insanely massive. Yeah. Cool. Go for it, bro.
[0:29:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, yeah. No. No. I I definitely agree with you, man. I I don't have too much much about that, but I... So so, you know, we've been we've been seeing this thing for a long time with the whole Bitcoin and scaling. I heard some people talk on on the whole space today, like like like, as you were. So do you think full scaling is gonna be on the l twos or or or the l one of Bitcoin?
[0:29:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: It, like, depends for what. Right, Lenny? I mean, right, cool. Like like, when I look at this, see stacks. I don't think stacks is the scaling layer. I think stacks is the staking layer. Right? Like, I think that's why Stacks was built is so these institutions can come and genuinely earn real yield, feel secure, and obviously knowing where their Bitcoin lie and so on. Right? I don't think that they're... Like, I don't think they're... Like, you're not gonna have a million other protocols. The money's not there. The stables aren't there. So I don't I don't think that's the case. Maybe when when more Bitcoin gets unlocked, maybe different story. Today, I don't think so. As far as, like, other scaling solutions, Landy, mean, I don't know. Like, there's a bunch of others, but I think the name of the game now, Cole, is just, like, scaling's a really tough question because right now, the name of the game is just bring the Bitcoin here. Unlock the Bitcoin, and then we'll be able to see what's what. Lane, do you... Like, what do you think?
[0:30:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So in terms of scaling, we have scaling solutions. There's tons of bridges to Bitcoin. There's tons of ways to get Bitcoin onto other chains, but the most... It's about what is the most trust minimized one and what is the most decentralized one. That's the
[0:30:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oops. Sorry.
[0:30:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's all good. That's the importance behind SBTC. Right? That's the importance behind what's being built there in terms of the stable pairs like USDH. Right? A Bitcoin native, Bitcoin backed stablecoin. Right? And this is where for scaling, you know, we're gonna have a lot of different scaling solutions. So what is the other side of the problem? Whenever you bridge anywhere, any network, I don't care if it's Bitcoin, if it's Ethereum, if it's SOL, Whenever you're bringing a token to other networks and you are scaling, you have to scale and have liquidity pairs. Right? Otherwise, you're you're not going to be able to do much. Right? You'll be able to swap in and out only within the liquidity pools that have liquidity. Right? Otherwise, you just have a wrap token that's sitting on a different chain that might be faster. So the... Doesn't matter if scaling at this point, I don't think is the issue. We can build bridges to everywhere. It's about building bridges in a logical way on plat... On on on platforms, on chains that are... That have liquidity, right, that have interest and liquidity and future scalability themselves. Right? And in terms of scalability of, like, SUI being a gaming chain or Solana being the casino or Aptos being the RWA chain or, you know, you've got also EVM compatibility is is is something that might change risk five and all that stuff. But it's about getting that to the end user. Right? So when I think of scalability, I'm thinking about ease of use UI and UX, and then and then decreasing the amount of steps that someone has to go through in order to to interact with Bitcoin. So it... This is both, a move to... This is a move to scale, but it's also a move to bring a product that's in demand to other networks and then have those networks help assist in the scaling, of those solutions. Because this is a solution to a problem that is WBTC and the other tokens that are like it that have a lot of risk attached to them, Whereas this is far far less risky, and it's on an established network, and it's at a network layer that these coins are held. Right? So this is this is offering a solution that appeals to institutional side and and, consumer side. You wouldn't go to a gaming chain just to target institutions. Right? Like, when when Sui brands as, like, the gaming chain, you're looking at the Pokemon stuff. Right? You're looking at the different, partnerships that they're... That they have with gaming studios that are gonna be building and utilizing the blockchain. So having Bitcoin there, having Bitcoin products there, and a way to interact with Bitcoin in an easy and fast manner that is cross chain compatible with stacks layer two and settled right directly on layer one, it's game over, man. It's going everywhere. It's just a matter of, anything, whether it's SBTC or WBTC or TBTC or whatever it might be, if it's somewhere on a different chain from its native chain, it's all about liquidity. That is the next big phase, and that's why you go to these chains that have a ton of volume.
[0:34:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Let's go.
[0:34:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wagmy, what's good, bro? How are you?
[0:34:15] Voice E: Pretty good. Can you hear me pretty good? I got, like, three different headphones that just connected to my computer.
[0:34:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're good. We... You sound silky smooth on that man... In that microphone. Wish cool had one of those mics. Yeah. One of the things
[0:34:29] Voice E: I was just gonna add is, you know, some of the things to watch out for in the Stacks ecosystem as well is one of the next upgrades coming is called Wasm. And, you know, from what I understand, there's a lot of performance upgrades that also are planned, with this Wasm upgrade. A couple other things, you know, people in the community have been building. One of them is Rosar, and he's been building, what's called Blaze. You know, to me, Blaze is almost like a like a layer three. And, you know, it kinda buttons up the layer two stacks, and then layer two stacks buttons up the layer one Bitcoin. So I definitely think from a scalability approach, there's a lot of people that are tinkering. You know, the big thing coming out of, like, Stacks core is WASM down the chain. That's what I'm really excited to see.
[0:35:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: WASM. Is that, like, what... What's I... ICP built on? That's what that's what Rosar's using. Yeah. ICP?
[0:35:32] Voice E: I... I'm not exactly sure. I know from, like, a token perspective, I think, you know, you you essentially kinda, like, peg out, you know, any items that you have on l two. And then, you know, then it's down in this Blaze protocol. And the way that it's architected, it's, you know, it's at, like, really quick speed to where it's almost instantaneous. But I imagine from, like, an architectural perspective, you know, it's a different architecture than being on native l two. So there... There's trade offs of things, I imagine. But, you know, in tandem you know, in tandem with that and and WASM, I... I'm really curious to see how how, you know, the latest details on that. You know, the... Whenever I think of speed, there's two components to it. One being TPS, like, transact transactions per second. It's how many, like, concurrent transaction can occur. And then, you know, of those concurrent transactions, how fast are they? Because that's always, like, you know, you know, things to look at, I think, in that realm because, yeah, you could have, you know, five second transactions, but if there's only, you know, five transactions that can have that five, you know, that that that doesn't, you know, add a whole bunch of, ease of use to the the user base. So, know, little things like WASM, that are coming down the chain too, I think, are only going to, increase that scalability, and also bring a lot more functionality too with, you know, the the features that are baked into it.
[0:37:12] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's what Cosmos uses.
[0:37:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's that's... I was just gonna say that. Is that is that what it... Is that what Cosmos uses? Yeah? Okay. Yeah. Well, I was like, wait. I was gonna say Cosmos or Cardano. I know Cardano is Rust, but, like, I was like, wait. Which one is it? Yeah.
[0:37:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I think I think they use the Wasm Chasm or... Am I saying it? Or is it backwards? Chasm or what? Yeah. The Wasm, basically. Yeah. They also do the... What is that? The Tendermint.
[0:37:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Cosm Wasm?
[0:37:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. WasmCosm.
[0:37:42] Voice E: Yeah. Yeah. One of the things I I remember seeing when they were posting about, like, you know, hey. You know, letting everybody know that it was coming on the chain is that, from, like, a developer standpoint, people are gonna be able to write in multiple different languages, I believe. So then it's also gonna increase that that developer network of people that are building on stacks too.
[0:38:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I remember that. I remember that where it was like, doesn't matter if you code in Solidity or Rust or anything else. It's like there's gonna be, like, that layer that sits on top to be able to convert any language into... Yeah. Whatever. Like, it's such a funny name. ChasmWasm or whatever it is. Yeah. No. I I remember that. I mean, good point. Yeah.
[0:38:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Juno SEI and Injective use Cosmos.
[0:38:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: C... Who else? Injective and who else?
[0:38:30] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Juno SEI.
[0:38:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Well well, anything on the Cosmos.
[0:38:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anything What
[0:38:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: was that inner... What the hell was their shit? IFC or IBC. IBC. There you go. Yeah.
[0:38:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Inter blockchain communications is... Yeah. I mean, there's so much stuff that we don't know also. Like, that's the other thing about this space, man. Like, I'm constantly learning about just so much shit out here. This is... I mean, it's a little overloaded sometimes, but... No. Wagney, great stuff, man. Thank you. Shout out to whole
[0:39:02] Voice E: post that he made on it too if you wanna pin it to the board.
[0:39:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Feel free. I mean, feel free. Go ahead. You can pin it up right now. Like, no worries. And, yeah, man, shout out to the whole... Like, shout out to the Stacks fan, man, like, for being patient, sticking with it. Down the fifth... Stacks went from what we had that run that went up to almost $4 down to 53¢. If that's not crypto at its finest, man, if you could stick through that, I think you're gonna be in for some greener pastures come come the fit... The very immediate future.
[0:39:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, who's calling me now? Like, really? Like, who calls during this time? I don't know. I don't know. Anybody have anything else to add? Landy, anything else? Gamer on the Stacks story?
[0:39:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not really. I'm I'm here for the AI, man. I wanna know about what's going on with all this artificial intelligence that I've been told is going to make crypto obsolete.
[0:39:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Looks like gamer gamer came a little bit... He came, like, seven minutes early. He only came eleven minutes late, technically. No.
[0:40:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I was just I was just looking up when I got stacks. Or, actually, back then, it was actually block stacks because I forgot what what I got it at. Do you guys know that? It was actually
[0:40:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: block stacks.
[0:40:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Yes. Very,
[0:40:20] Sunny D @dylN0chill: very Yeah.
[0:40:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Because I got it in beginning. Is it 30¢, 40¢, or something like that?
[0:40:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gamer, did you really Earlier. The EP call again after the
[0:40:29] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: top Oh, right here. Right here. Yeah. 01/30/2021. That's when I got Blockstack.
[0:40:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Yep.
[0:40:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yep. Gamer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
[0:40:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you really post the CEP call again for the fourth time to the top?
[0:40:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yes. He did. Of course. Yeah. I did. Because, you know, people were talking smack and laughing at me and...
[0:40:53] Voice E: Oh. No
[0:40:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: one was
[0:40:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: laughing. Nobody here. I mean, we laugh at you, brother.... Reasons, obviously, but it's a funny red hat that you have on, but, like, still other than that.
[0:41:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I think that car chart
[0:41:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: looks kinda bearish, you know, to be laughing at me about it. But... Yeah.
[0:41:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, man. Listen. If you need a hug, you know, you can always come to ATC, and we'll give you... Well, Landy might not. He might be able to just hug an ankle or something, but whatever. You know the drill. Come on. We love you, buddy.
[0:41:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. It's all good, man.
[0:41:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gracie, wait. Real quick before we get into the AI shit really, really quick. Jared, I kinda wanna, like, bring you in. Like, I know, Crane, you don't have a token listed yet, but you guys are building on Base, Solana, both. Like, what's your kinda take on the... I guess, just general market. Like, we'd love to hear just general market sentiment from a founder.
[0:41:40] Voice C: Yeah. Definitely. I was, I was just, like, fly on the wall about all this, you know, Stack's talk. I mean, I'm a fan of it. I just don't have the time to, like, dig into it, but I think all the stuff that they're doing is really awesome. That whole community is is strong. Like, they just... They they fight for that thing, man. So it's it's kinda fun to watch. I I got a buddy who's really into it, and he's just, like, super passionate about it. Right? So, yeah, it's cool to see. Overall market sentiment. You know, I think through March... February and March, you know, when I got done, like, crying me a a fucking river over, you know, the market, like, dipping down to 75 when when I, you know, I thought we'd be busting 150 k all time highs for Bitcoin, you know, and shit like that. I... You know, after I got that, I'm like, alright. Who who knows how long this is gonna be in? You know? It's kinda like, alright. We can we can take one. You know? We've been through this many times before, you know, you know, trying not to, you know, you know, just, like, trying to, you know, see when the market didn't come back and hearing all these people talk about this, you know, oh, we're we're in a bear market now, and, technically, this means a bear market, you know, all this stuff. And you're like, just give me a break. It's a dip, man. We're coming back. We're coming back. You know? But but either way, you know, I I think, you know, we did anticipate the market coming back. I think the the overall market, like, including equities, it's like... It's artificially down. Right? It's not... You know, I I don't think it's because of overall market weakness. I think it's because of, you know, what The US is doing with all this this tariff stuff. You know? It's just... It's, like, artificially pushing the markets down, and and you've seen it. You know? It's like... It's almost like a bull waiting to exit the pen. Right? You know? Like, as soon as there's, like, a bit of good news, you know, you know, just, like, rushing out and, you know, you see it pop, like, any any kind of good news, and it just pops up. You know? And so... But we need more than these pops. You know? We need, like, sustained, you know, upward movement, and so I think we're we're finally starting to see it. You know? And I think, you know, smarter people than me have these, like, you know, knowledge and understanding of, you know, the... What what actually moves the market, you know, because I hear all this positive stuff going on. Hear news, like, almost every day, you know, like, this country's adapting it and, you know, the... These different companies, and people are creating, you know, companies to to, you know, imitate what MicroStrategy is doing. Like, I mean, you couldn't, I mean, this is the kind of good news that we all dreamed about in past bull markets. Right? Like, it's just happening right and left, and you're, like, and you're, like, you know, looking and Bitcoin's at 82, and you're, like, oh my gosh. Like, seriously, what the fuck? Bitcoin at 82, you know, with all this good stuff happening, you know? So I think it's artificial. I think, you know, is is Bitcoin decoupling from the traditional markets? I think we'd all like it too, but I I don't I don't know if that's that's generally possible as you see more institutional money, you know, make its way into it. You know? So... But overall, from a founder's perspective, you know, man, like, if you start a company, you just gotta go for it. You you gotta just... Your balls to the wall. You're like... You you... We're gonna do whatever it takes, and you're just gonna keep building. You know? And so I think I think that we've all been waiting to, like, see this little bit of a breakout that, like, what we've seen as as the market... As as as Bitcoin moved from, like, 85 up to this 95 and now hopefully 97 crossing a 100. You got these psychological barriers of around a 100. So as soon as it crosses a 100, I think people are gonna be like, okay. We're we're kinda out of the woods. We're starting to move back towards the previous ATH. You know? But the hard part is, you know, as as a founder, right, you you you need you need investment. Right? You need you need to raise funds and stuff like that. And, you know, as we've been out talking to investors, you know, we have a lead investor in place. We have a second investor in place. But everybody's kinda like, oh, we just, you know, we wanna wait wait for the markets to turn around. You know? And it's it's a tough place to be in. Right? And so you just gotta survive, and you look for all the bright spots. And in the meantime, you just keep building. Right? You just keep doing what you're doing, and, you know, you you look to raise money where you can and what what... You know? And and you just keep building. And you run into challenges, and you just keep keep on, man. That... That's the way it goes.
[0:46:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it, bro. I like it. I like it, man. And we're gonna get into kinda, like, what you guys do once we get into the AI combos. I'm just literally looking... Thank you for that. Thank you for that, bro. I'm literally looking at the top thing else that newsworthy before we get on to the AI convo gamer. Landy, Wagmy, Cool, Sunny, Metabeast. Anything else?
[0:46:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Whole lot of bullish fundamental news coming out. It's all I know.
[0:47:00] Voice C: Amen.
[0:47:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You know, I'm just... I I won't get deep into any of the stuff until the numbers start to come out, but there's a lot of economic data that's coming out that's going to likely have the market whipsaw here and there. But other than that, we're just waiting on stuff right now. There's just... There's good news left and right. Everywhere you go in the crypto markets, it's good news. And believe it or not, there's actually good news, economically as well, but that's not what you're gonna hear
[0:47:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: in the news. So we'll talk about
[0:47:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: that stuff as the numbers hit.
[0:47:35] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: The... Yeah. I agree. For for crypto for crypto, it... We... Actually, you know what? We should start separating those. Right? So blockchain is is bullish. Right? I mean, there's so much bullish news coming out for blockchain, but then the macro stuff, it's it's struggling. Right? Don't know if it was WagMe or or or Crane brought it up, you know, about, you know, the tariff news and, you know, the uncertainty in the market right now for sure. Right? It's it's it's it's... It really is suppressing the price on on everything. And macro, you know, the liquid... Macro liquidity controls everything. You know? It doesn't matter how bullish your crypto space is. If macro is shitty, then, you know, everything is gonna be suppressed. But I did see the, you know, The USA made a deal with Ukraine, so that's obviously a good thing. Right? You know? Because if we could see the end of this Ukraine, you know, ordeal, you know, that's a good thing. And then, also, you know, a lot of the tariff news is coming out. I think... Oh, the the other thing I saw was the the the vehicle automakers. Like, if if they have eight... 85% made in The USA, then no tariffs on the, you know, automobile makers. And, really, you know, if you really look at it, Tesla is kinda pretty much the only one in position to benefit from that. You know, General Motors, Ford, I mean, all the other Yeah. They're not... They're only, like, 60%.
[0:49:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know? Ford... I think Ford in general and GM are gonna get some passes on this. That's one of the reasons why they're going with employee pricing. Ford started that GM's gonna start initiating that stuff. Yep. I'll I'll give you this bit of alpha for for just TradFi. Understand that when you look at any kind of a liquidity pool, like, you go to a DEX and you look at a liquidity pool and you look at the price of the token, you're like, wow. This token's valued over billion dollars. And then you look in the liquidity pool and it's got, $50,000,000 in liquidity or less. Understand that that is the entirety of traditional markets, and what we just saw was a massive deleveraging event. Jerome Powell, you know, during his QA last... This past month, actually acknowledged that as well. And, you know, when you see a delevering event like that, that means that the money doesn't go away. When you see 5,000,000,000,000 loss, 1,000,000,000,000... 1,500,000,000,000 gain, that's in value. That is not in realized. That's not in actual capital. And what you what you have to understand is that capital is changing hands as as positions are being readjusted, as maintenance margins are being maintained. And then that capital sits on the sideline when there is more certainty and more concrete evidence of economic trends going in a certain direction, you're gonna see investment follow. Right now, we're seeing that the crypto industry is actually the beneficiary of this, but it's just laying the foundation for a much bigger transition over into crypto and AI. Like, these are the big, big, big ones. So, you know, I wouldn't be too scared, or too down if we see any more down days, which we will soon. I would say sooner rather than later. But, you know, don't get discouraged. We're actually all in a really good spot in in in a very early industry, so just don't forget that.
[0:51:19] Voice C: Yeah. And we got we got the Fed chairman in The US speaking Wednesday and Thursday of next week. Right? And he's supposed to announce... You know, I think it's around some Thursday at noon or Thursday afternoon. US time, he's supposed to announce whether or he's gonna do a rate cut. The Fed's gonna cut the rate. So I think leading up to that, everyone's, like, hopeful he's gonna cut the rate, but I'm I'm not optimistic on it. I I lean towards him. He's not. He's gonna leave it leave it alone.
[0:51:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. No. I don't
[0:51:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: think Yeah. I was actually gonna say, you you really think he's gonna he's gonna cut rates?
[0:51:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. They're gonna stick to their plan.
[0:51:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. That's all I
[0:51:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: gonna say. Three and a q four. Yeah. They're gonna stick to their plan.
[0:51:58] Voice C: But to what Landy was saying, like, the market's probably gonna be disappointed by that, and, you're gonna see some dip right there. But
[0:52:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So so what I hear is opportunity. That... That's what I hear is there's gonna be opportunity coming up soon. Exactly.
[0:52:17] Voice C: I mean, if you buying the dips. Right? If you just watch it, you see this happening and stuff.
[0:52:22] Voice E: You read my mind on that. That was a question I was gonna pose to you guys as, you know, what you thought rates would... You know, how they would pan out. But I had a second part too. I don't know if you guys have been tracking with all the states that are getting, you know, close to passing out of their house and sending them to Bitcoin.
[0:52:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: North Carolina. Do
[0:52:39] Voice E: you think she's gonna veto, or do you think she's gonna green light it? I... From my understanding, Arizona, they've actually put two bills on on her desk.
[0:52:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Landy Landy wants her to veto it in Arizona.
[0:52:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't want her to be the one that's etched in in history as a as a woman that adopts it first.
[0:52:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No, Katie Hobbs.
[0:53:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: He doesn't want Katie Hobbs to take the credit as the first.
[0:53:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Thank you. Thank you. See, I got I got I got a crew. I got a posse. We're gonna go to the state capital and say, no, Katie. But... No. Listen. The two bills that were passed, one is about a Bitcoin, treasury reserve. There... They... There's an estimated, revenue of around... If you were to extrapolate their their year to date revenue projections, if they allocated 10%, you're looking at probably 1 to $2,000,000,000. On the low end, maybe five to 10 if they're if they're not just taking end of day numbers and they're taking actual budget numbers, but we don't know that yet. The other bill was the same thing that Trump did. They're just modeling what Trump did. There's a a treasury reserve asset for Bitcoin. Right? So Bitcoin reserve, and then the rest is for seized crypto funds. But here's the difference. They would be able to add to the seized crypto funds one as well. That is for Arizona. I have not reviewed the documentation for the bill just yet on North Carolina, but I think North Carolina has probably got a better shot. Arizona, we don't know. Hobbs has vetoed one crypto bill but accepted another. Well, I would say I'd lean towards she probably signs it. I think that there's enough political pressure to do so, and she needs to, you know, do some image rehab because she's...... Texas
[0:54:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: and Florida, man? I thought those were supposed to be the crypto states, and they're lagging.
[0:54:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: They... They're probably gonna unravel some some bigger bills if I had to bet.
[0:54:41] Voice C: I I thought I thought Texas had already passed one, but, in Arizona, I I don't know. Is, is the governor in Arizona, is she, is she pro crypto? I I would think that she'd almost be anti just because she's democrat, and she just wants to do whatever opposite of what Trump says.
[0:55:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: She is a... She is now just going... She's been going with whatever way the wind is blowing for political reasons. So I could see her...
[0:55:11] Voice C: So normal politician.
[0:55:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Yes. You know, the wind is blowing at her at at at her front in this regard, and she feels like she needs it at her back in order to get through her agendas, she'll probably go for it. It's a bit of an unknown. We'll see. It's it's it's headed to her desk. If you wanna follow the, Bitcoin stuff, I think it's at Bitcoin laws is is a good... I just pinned it up there for you.... Everything. Oh, cool. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is the one. There you go. That's... Yeah.
[0:55:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bitcoin laws. That's that's the one to follow for all of that.
[0:55:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And Bitcoin Policy Org, that is the Bitcoin Policy Institute as well. They... They're pretty good about posting relevant things, but more towards the federal side.
[0:55:58] Voice E: Who would you want to be first? Oh,
[0:56:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: man. I want I want Trump to sign something out of congress first to be looping, and then states follow. But... Alright. Florida, Texas. I'd rather they'd be first, but I'll take whatever we can get. Bitcoin's gonna take over anyway.
[0:56:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo, Coma. Good stuff, boys. Yo, Coma, I was looking at this cut... Some cut... This Coma up here? Oh, no. He's down on the listener. Damn it. I saw that there was some Kaito news. Cool. Did you see this? That Kaito turned over their BitTensor, the ownership of their subnet to another company called Latent Holdings? I'm curious what this what this actually means. Yeah. Koma, if you got any any updates on BitTensor and and the Kaito news, the transferring ownership of their subnet, let me know. Sunny d.
[0:56:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. Yeah. No. The the news. I I just heard news right now, because I don't know too much about about that, hopefully. Maybe Koma does know, but... Yeah.
[0:56:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good stuff. Sunny d, I was just about to post up probably the two richest fucking guys in the world up here. Cheesing and smiling together. Look at this. Look how beautiful. Look how pretty this is. Look at these little cheeks. Look at the. So cute. Paulo and
[0:57:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Justin sitting in a tree. Picture there.
[0:57:18] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Oh, yeah. I picture there.
[0:57:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, if that's not a... I mean, this. Yo. But, Sonny d, tell people what we were talking about this morning in this space. I thought that was a great space this morning with an amazing topic about the whole Trump dinner thing and, like, really, like, how MemeCoins could potentially, like, reshape this landscape. Like, I don't know if you wanna maybe just maybe recap for everybody and and maybe some takeaways.
[0:57:39] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yeah. So Dave hosted the weekly Thursday Sun Pump Space, and today's topic was, you know, is MemeCoin... I don't remember what it was.
[0:57:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: He just said it. But the MemeCoin's gonna be able to get you a seat at the fucking table, like, big boy table now.
[0:58:00] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yeah. Real. Well, quite quite clearly, that... That's a fact, and that's kind of a paradigm shift for MemeCoins. And way back during the meme cycle, I was there just yelling, like, mission coin, like, real meaning. And everybody was like, ah, butt coin. And I was like, and I'm still poor. But what we're seeing now is... I mean, essentially, this is Trump's meme coin is is decentralizing his community, and now he's adding utility where if you're a holder of his coin, you get invited to the presidential dinner, which from there, I was like, well, obviously, we need to scrounge up enough funds and send the Tron guy to the dinner. But, what it means is, you know, it's just gonna pull new talent from new places and give people an opportunity to... Yeah. I think you said it. A power dynamic shift in, potentially getting new new talent in politics in this particular case. But, I think it's gonna change the game for politics forever going into the future. It it was a wild conversation. It was fun.
[0:59:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: The host is having connection issues. You still there, Dave?
[0:59:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: I thought it was me. I'm like, oh, so what do I have to do here?
[0:59:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I... Yeah. He's probably logging in now.... Over. He's having...
[0:59:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm still here. Still here. Yeah. I hope I hope I hope he doesn't end the space, man, because that that might be a bad time. But no. No. I know I know I know we have crane yet, but I don't want want Chris to start talking if Dave is not back, man. Yeah. We'll just we'll just keep going, man. It's all good.
[0:59:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cool, man.
[0:59:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm sorry. Okay. You back, Dave?
[1:00:00] Chris Dev @chris_devv: Yeah.
[1:00:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys hear me okay? We were lost without you. I know you were. Can you can you... Yeah.
[1:00:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: I see I see... A coma request for the mic, man. I can't I can't accept him. James, you you wanna bring him up?
[1:00:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's up up. He's up. Koma, you up?
[1:00:14] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Okay. I I... Yeah. He's up.
[1:00:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: He's up. He's up now.
[1:00:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's up. He's up. Real... But real quick. The one thing I did wanna say was, like... So based on what Sunnyd was saying, the space this morning, guys, we were literally talking about how now with, like, the top 220, like, Trump holders, there were some people up there that if you got into this thing early enough... Right? Like, I mean, obviously, Justin Sun, who has, like, 14,000,000, winter mute, and all those are gonna be up there. There was a dude that was up there that I think... Like, I think he bought it, and it was, like, $800 that is now gonna be sitting at the table because it was a time weighted formula. So it's like, if you bought from day one and then you continue to hold through, this dude, I think, bought, like, $6,700. He's gonna be sitting at the table. I I can just imagine some,
[1:00:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: like Wait.
[1:00:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
[1:00:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're telling me that I might be able to get into Mar A Lago and have dinner with Trump then?
[1:01:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you haven't sold your Trump since day one, I think you are very, very heavily weighted towards the top of the leaderboard. I would absolutely go check for sure.
[1:01:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I was providing liquidity. That's how I made money. I was doing exactly what Trump did. So I kept the tokens. I I made a ton of money on that token. Yeah. And I kept... I I did sell a a good portion of it, but I have tokens from day one. That's interesting. I'll have to go check it out. Yeah. I wanna go to Mar A Lago.
[1:01:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's not in Mar A Lago. It's in Virginia. It's a... Yeah. It's at the golf club in Virginia.
[1:01:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm I'm dumping all my Trump tokens now.
[1:01:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Boo fucking hoo. Rich fee... Rich people fucking promise. But my point was, okay, my point was, at the end of the day, do it... Like, I was asking people, like, do we genuinely think that this has... Like, can this set a precedent for meme coins? And I did a whole round of fact or fiction. And I I wanna ask you guys what's... Some of the questions I asked them. Ready? So cool. I'm gonna ask you the fact or fiction question. Fact or fiction, memes will have more political influence than traditional campaign donations by the year 2030. Fact or fiction?
[1:02:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, yeah. Think that's a that's a... Probably a fact, man. That's the 2030. That's about five years from now. Yeah. I think that's a fact. Though. Alright. I I just think in time... But but before then, between now and and 2030, you need US government's officials to be able to launch their own tokens with no issue. If the government has issue with meme coins, it's not gonna happen, bro. But if if it's not a problem, I... I'll say facts.
[1:02:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Gamer, holding a meme coin will one day count as social credit in real world institutions. Fact or fiction?
[1:02:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Social credit?
[1:02:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. With institutions. Holding a meme coin will one day count as social credit in real world institutions.
[1:03:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm gonna say that's fake because 99% of these things are garbage and trash. So... And and you could spin up a meme coin with nothing. Right? So that doesn't make any sense because if you could just spin up a meme coin and, you know, and then that's how you're gonna increase your credit...
[1:03:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't forget the premise. The backdrop was you're sitting at a table with the president because you hold a meme token that just has the name on it.
[1:03:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, if you're holding Trump, you mean?
[1:03:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, it's a meme coin. Right? Like, I'm just saying that's the context that I'm giving you. I don't I don't know what the meme coin of the future will be, but who knows?
[1:03:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. But you... That's... That... You have to be specific, though. Because if you just say meme coin, how many hundreds and thousands of meme coins? 99.9% have gone to zero. Let's say that's negative zero.
[1:03:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's just say any meme coin, like, best of the best meme coins. Do you think it's gonna count, like, towards social credit and, like, when you go to Fidelity?
[1:04:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I don't know. I'm I'm I'm not really a big meme coin person, though, so that... I'm probably the worst.
[1:04:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Get at it. You're ruining the
[1:04:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: whole globe. Yeah.
[1:04:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fucking guy. Landy, the Trump token dinner is just a flashy PR stunt with no long term impact. Fact or fiction?
[1:04:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wow. I'm gonna say fact. The reason why is because he's rewarded he's rewarded others that have have won various things to come and meet him over time in web two world. Productization is kind of his thing. He rewards people who first bought the shoes, like, the NFTs and the crypto world, obviously, now the token. You'd have to... I I would say that, he's also rewarded, like, long term club members. Like, hey. Come on. You know, we we haven't met. I wanna meet you. You know? If you've been a member to one of the clubs. Right? Especially at Mar a Lago for a long time. Right? Like... So I think that... I think this is just a... I I think this is actually more genuine than people are making it out to be. I don't... A lot of people are saying it's like, it's to pump the token. Like, really? Who's gonna go in there just to pump it so that they can go meet him? If they got enough money to do that, they've got connections to go to Mar A Lago.
[1:05:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I never thought that fact or fiction questions would stump this fucking path... Of all the people would stump this path. Who was the only one that had to get definitive? It like, these are that good. Alright. You see? Fact or fiction. Sunny d, fact or fiction. The Tron ecosystem is currently underleveraging its cultural influence potential. Fact or fiction.
[1:05:57] Sunny D @dylN0chill: That's an interesting question. Tron has been so focused on fundamentals and working its way up to the most profitable blockchain in the space. And I would say it is completely underleveraged right now, and that will soon be fixed.
[1:06:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: You got an announcement you wanna make?
[1:06:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Not yet.
[1:06:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Motherfucker. Goddamn. Unbelievable.
[1:06:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wag me. Memes are the most efficient form of community coordination Web three has ever created. Fact or fiction?
[1:06:45] Voice E: That's a hard one because I think there's other, you know, things within the community that drive that forward as well, you know, whether it's like DAOs or NFTs, you know, a group of people embracing that. But, you know, as a leader, I would say probably fact. You know, it's it's probably one of those things that really bind and band a whole bunch of people together.
[1:07:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was screaming fact while muted.
[1:07:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. On somebody else's fucking question. You believe that? I love this. This is amazing. I love this stuff. Alright. Jared, you ready? Most meme coin communities don't care about real world impact. They just want number go up. Fact or fiction?
[1:07:28] Voice C: Well, that's obviously a fact. I mean, that's what... Everyone buys tokens and buys shit, you know, especially in crypto. Right? We're we're about the most money focused, you know, forward and up movement group, you know, around. Right? Like, it... It's... It... I mean, it's just like we might as well just say it. Like, that's what we're all in this for. Right? Like, we all want it. But I do think that there's a lot of validity to a lot of these comments that you're making. You know? I mean, I I think if you look at it, MemeCoin, NFT, you know, Access Pass, I mean, it's it's there. It makes a lot of sense. I mean, I I do think... You know, I I think the... Those guys that were running the Trump token, you know, they they probably had these thoughts ahead of time and stuff. I don't think they're just, like, making shit up as they go along, I mean, any more than the rest of us are. You know? But, you know, they they probably had set out and said, okay. What are we gonna do with this thing long term? You know? How are we gonna add value to it? You know? Trump, hey. You can do a dinner with these people. Right? I mean, like, you know, no matter what you say about Trump one way or another, he is the president of, you know, the most powerful nation or one of the most powerful nations in the world. Right? I mean, he's the leader of the free world. It it is what it is. And so it's a... You know, it's it's gotta be a pretty amazing thing to be able to attend a dinner with him and, you know, potentially get to get to have his ear for even a couple moments. You know? I mean, it's... That's pretty awesome. I I I would do it. Given the opportunity, I would I would absolutely do it. And I'd be like... I've got my phone, and I'd be like, you know, hey, Trump. Just say I love Crane while I record a selfie video.
[1:09:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that. Let's go. That was the realest answer we got by anybody so far, so I love it. It was like, yeah. Number go up. That's what everybody's out here for. So, yeah, listen. I appreciate the non kumbaya answer. Let's go. It's interesting, man. Meta Beast, I got the last one for you, sir. And this one is, once memes are tied to real world value and access, they stop being memes. Fact or fiction?
[1:09:41] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'd like to ask the audience.
[1:09:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's a fact.
[1:09:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: See, there's no lifelines here,
[1:09:47] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Henry. Can I? I was going to answer. I just had to throw my
[1:09:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: children first.
[1:09:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Go ahead. That's what I was gonna say. That's what I was gonna say. Fact.
[1:10:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that's it. There you go. Alright. There you go. No explanation. Just fact. Thank you.
[1:10:05] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It was a fact. True true... It was fact or fiction.
[1:10:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a good point. Very good point. I... You have no argument there. Wagmy, go for it.
[1:10:13] Voice E: Yeah. I was just gonna say, you know, I got in Bitcoin 2017, Stacks 2,021, and, you know, some of the meme coin communities that, you know, I've kind of been fans of. You know, a lot of the same people were there even after, like, couple years. And, you know, I think that with memes, like, there's this evolution to maybe, like, after a year or two, maybe they're called, like, community coins or something like that. And one way I kinda compare that to in real life things is, like, think about memberships. People have memberships to golf clubs or VFW halls or Elks Lodge and stuff. Like, I I often wonder if, like, memes will develop into that type of community and and, you know, go that way just like how memberships are.
[1:10:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a good point. That's a really good point. We should definitely have one of these discussions. You know what? I'm gonna start structuring this shit maybe a little bit more because I feel like there's certain things, like, when we get on to certain topics, like, that I I really, like, want to, like, hammer home. You know what I mean? And, like, just listening to you guys now really tells me that, like, I think there's an area for us to really, like, tackle where it's open where we're not sure, and I think that's a good thing so that we can then either go out and find the answers for people or at least just give people really differing opinions on all this different shit. Yeah. Metabees, go for it.
[1:11:29] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Landy, can't... Do you wanna elaborate on my agreement with you that it's a fact?
[1:11:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, listen. A meme coin... The reason why meme coins became so popular to launch is because there was a giant middle finger to the SEC. There's no promise of u... Of return. There's no utility, and that was the primary drivers behind doing that. Right? And especially when you have the, quote, unquote, fair launch that, you know, often is exploited, bonding curve tokens. Right? So when you have, quote, when you have no team, no promise of return, and no utility, you're a true meme. Right? And and almost all of the memes have turned into utility over time. That is just a fact.
[1:12:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's wild that you just define something by some... By... With three things that it doesn't have. Isn't that crazy how, like, this is how our brains are... That's wild to me. It's like, this is not what this is defines it because it doesn't have these three things. That's what makes it a meme. That's crazy how jaded we are, bro.
[1:12:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, it's it's true, though. This is... This was to get around the SEC, and this is why I actually really like memes. I like meme tokens, true memes, because they, much like Bitcoin in the early days, were a giant middle finger to the man, quote unquote, to the government, to to creating your own system that you run. Right? And and if a meme... Like, I don't even consider, Trump a meme token. It was a team that launched it. Right? If there is a singular person... That's why the whole dev is out narrative was the real, like, actual run with memes. Because if the dev is out, there's no team. It's a CTO. Right? There is no promise of returns. There's no utility. There's no team. You're all just building it in yourself, and it's a social thing at this point, and it's a social currency at this point. And it becomes, you know, etched and ingrained in society and in our vernacular and everything else. That's what true memes will reach. And that is a giant middle finger to the SEC that was running the... You know, and the prior administration running Chokepoint and Chokepoint two point o. So that that is why... That's what makes a meme. You... Almost no memes are memes anymore because even Doge. Doge is not a meme. It's a fucking network that you can mine on. It's not a meme. You can
[1:14:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: build apps on it. I would say that Pepe to me would probably be the last true meme coin. Right? There's a
[1:14:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: few others, but... Yes. I...
[1:14:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: What what what was the meme?
[1:14:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Because when Pepe's because when Pepe's meme came out and then it exploded, you know, it was... Everyone... That's why it exploded because everyone knew the meme. Right? But, like, what Lanny's talking about is true. Right? Doge. Right? You had the dog symbol, but it wasn't it wasn't like Pepe. Right? Like, everyone's, like, making up their own Pepe memes and changing it and altering stuff and, you know, so that is that is having valid take there, Landy.
[1:14:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Unless I like Pepe Pepe and Apu are the two that I think of, that's just me.
[1:14:47] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Unless you look at it
[1:14:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: like about to
[1:14:48] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: is what is... What was what was a meme originally before there were meme coins? Basically a joke. Right? And this
[1:14:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: is Yeah.
[1:14:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: A joke. Social canoe. Yeah. It was a joke.
[1:14:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Yeah.
[1:14:58] Chris Dev @chris_devv: I guess you
[1:14:58] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: could argue that Doge was a joke at one time anyway.
[1:15:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. But it had utility. Yes. You know, it had a network. You could mine it. You could do all kinds of stuff. And once you cross that barrier, that's what that's what the whole point was behind launching a lot of this was was at the height of the Ripple, SEC lawsuit stuff and all of the Howey test stuff. And what is what is, what what does this all mean for the future, and who could they go after? Because everything in crypto was at risk at that point. Unless you have a meme, and you can go, no. There's no team. You can't prosecute anybody. It's literally just that you wanna go prosecute 80,000 holders? Have fun. Because there's literally no team. There's no there's there's no promise of returns, and there's no utility to this. It's literally a meme. Have fun.
[1:15:49] Voice E: Leandy, you probably know this. Wasn't there actually a meme created before Doge? Because I've seen it before out there. Bell's coin.
[1:15:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Lucky coin. Lucky... Before that... Before Doge, it's essentially where
[1:16:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bell's...... Mine,
[1:16:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's... Yeah. It was it was Bell's. I mean, it was actually Lucky because Lucky coin, you can mine. If you look at the lineage of where doge came from, that... Those were the... Where it came from.
[1:16:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Bell's... It was like
[1:16:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bitcoin, Litecoin... Yeah. Lucky, l k y.
[1:16:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay.
[1:16:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That that one and Bell's.
[1:16:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And then they tried to get the butt coin going back then, but it didn't really do anything.
[1:16:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, and there was another one. Oh, junk. I think it was junk coin. I think that was...
[1:16:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Oh my god.
[1:16:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Was that $20.12? I think that was $20.12 god.... 13.
[1:16:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. Don't take me down a trip memory lane. We're never gonna...
[1:16:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Memory lane, bro. We gotta we gotta go way, way back.
[1:16:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm too old for this. I'm too old.
[1:16:49] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Well, some of us were...
[1:16:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Some of us are old.
[1:16:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've literally grabbed my cane.
[1:17:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, did Dave... Did he rug again? Or...
[1:17:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's been trying to unmute for a while now. That's one of
[1:17:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the reasons why I've been stretching a little bit. Oh, so so was was it WagMe that accent?
[1:17:12] Voice E: Yeah. Yeah. I was just curious because I always knew a Bell's coin, but I didn't know if, like, there was one prior to that. And was it made by the same person that made Doge? No. No. Nope. Hello.
[1:17:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Good day. There you go. Sorry. Dungeon. If you go to CoinGecko if you go to CoinGecko and you just look up Lucky Coin and go to the information tab, and then it... They'll they'll link you to all the, you know, places if you wanted to look up the history of where MemeCoin started at.
[1:17:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Here's what we're gonna do from here on out. Listen. Before I get rugged again, like, for the fiftieth time, I'm gonna let Jared give us the TLDR on Crane. They got an upcoming NFT mint with their keys, kinda what Crane is doing, and I need everyone of y'all up here. At least give me one one AI pick that you're taking a look at. Don't make it some common shit that everybody else knows. Alright? Like, give us, like, one of... Give us the good stuff. You know what I mean? The hidden gems. Jared Flores is yours, man.
[1:18:13] Voice C: Nice. Nice. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. I'm... I don't want this to be boring. Right? So, you know, I I found this company with Preston, and, you know, I'm an entrepreneur, like, hardcore. So I've started eight companies. I've sold three... Sold and successfully exited three of them. So, man, I'm I'm down in the trenches. I got the wounds to prove it. You know? Like, I'm a builder at heart. Right? So I don't know why I just keep doing this over and over again. I mean, some of them work out well and some of them don't, you know, like, you know anything about building companies. So Crane. So what what are we doing? What's it all about? So we're building infrastructure. So it's focused on AI, and we've got three main three main things, three main pillars, if you wanna call them that. And the first one is a discovery. So we're building a portal. There's a demo of it. If you scroll on our on our x feed a little bit, you can find it. You can see a little demo video of it. We're almost done with it and, you know, aiming to come out with the... This portal in the next, like, thirty to sixty days. But this portal is... If you could think of, like, Product Hunt for AI apps and AI agents. Right? So it's gonna be a cool space where you can kinda go and discover, you know, different apps and see reviews on them, and then, you know, people are gonna be able to vote on them and stuff like that. So, you know, hopefully, we can weave in some, like, some social aspect in there a little bit too, you know, just to help people make it a little more entertaining, get people to, you know, have fun discovering these these apps and stuff, and also help to promote some of these smaller builders as well. The second piece of it, which I think is super cool, we're building essentially a hosting company that's focused on AI apps and and AI agents. Right? So we're building a deployment layer. You know? If you can almost think of, like, the Vercel for AI agents and and AI apps. Right? So one of the companies that I started and ran for over ten years and then successfully exited was a cloud infrastructure service writer. So this is an area that we're, like, super familiar with, got a lot of domain expertise in, and just super excited about this piece of it. And then down the road, when we get some more time, you know, we have we have an idea for this thing we call the workflow builder. This is kinda like a a drag and drop interface for chaining AI agents and apps together to, you know, really amplify real world use cases. Right? So I think that's gonna be super cool, but, you know, we're we're... That's definitely sort of a ways off. So so that's what we're doing. That's what we're building. And, Dave, should I go right into it, or or do you guys have questions for me, or how how do you wanna...
[1:21:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: How should I start?
[1:21:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Go for it, bro. Like, go for it. Go for it, man. Like, tell us about the mint that you got coming up. If you wanna maybe give people a little bit more backstory about the company, if you have any VC backing or or anything like that, why you're... What... Like, what what... Like, what's the reason for the mint? And... Yeah. Well... And then we'll we'll go from there.
[1:21:19] Voice C: Yeah. Absolutely. So we're backed by Castrum Capital. That's our our one named investor. We're still kinda early on. And and then, you know, just... I've been funding it myself as well. So we're a little early. We're we're only about four four months old. We started in December. So we are... We've got this thing coming up. I think it's really cool. It's, we've we've sort of packed this full of features to make it beneficial. We call it the Crane Founder's Key. It's an NFT, and it represents, all this cool stuff that you can get if you own one of these. Right? So the idea behind this is to give early supporters and early believers in what we're doing access to access to our ecosystem, and access to, you know, sort of some really cool benefits for for owning this. So, basically, what this is, you you buy a founder's key and you get this list of benefits. Benefits. Right? Right? So So if if you you wanna wanna see what these are and read about them, there's some FAQs and stuff. If you go to crane.ai and then click on founder's key up in the top nav. But the first one and maybe the the most exciting, like I was talking about, we're all crypto people here. Right? So the the first benefit is that these keys are gonna cost a $150. I'll get a little bit more into the price and stuff like that in a minute. But these keys are gonna cost a 150 USD or roughly the equivalent in ETH, but you're gonna get three x the number of tokens. So what that means is you pay a 150, you get $450 worth of crane tokens at the TGE price. So, it's a little bit of a way to, you know, get access to the tokens, you know, book... Before the TG event, which is planned for q three. And we're we're having active discussions with, tier one exchanges and going through that whole process. So the second benefit is that these tokens are gonna stake right away. So you'll start earning 25% APY on them right away. Next benefit... Next couple benefits are all around the AirDrop distribution. So if you've hanging around Crane for very long, you know we've got got this really awesome AirDrop and AirDrop community that's going on. Shout out to all all of our all of our friends who've been hanging in there with us for months as we ride out this crappy market. But the first part of this benefit is we're gonna double your AirDrop distribution. So if you've been grinding away and, like, building up some drop points in our airdrop points program, we're gonna double those for you if you if you hold this. And then the second part of that around the airdrop is we're gonna carve out a dedicated 15% pool 15% pool of the AirDrop and share it only amongst these 1,500 holders of this token or of this of this founder's key. And so, by the way, there's only gonna be 1,500 available, so it's a pretty limited small number there. And so the next benefit... Now this one's really cool. We call it a a white label hosting license, and the value of it is $1,200 per year. So what this is is that one of our go to market strategies, the the way we we plan on growing, is allowing people to white label and and be a reseller of our hosting and hosting deployment services. So we think this is really cool. You know, I've I've used it in some past businesses, and it's it's been really successful. You can spin up your own hosting service with a few clicks of a button. You're gonna be able to do, and you can put your own label on it, your own name, your own domain name, and you go out and market it. Right? And so then you you get, basically, a portion of the margins, which is why you would do this. Right? You're... You have your... You can create your own business and and make money off this. So in order for people to do this, it's gonna cost them... You you gotta pay a fee to be able to do this. It's gonna be $100 per month to do this, and so you get one of these licenses, and you don't... You can skip that fee. So you don't have to pay that fee. So that's $1,200 per year. And if you think about that, you know, think about it over two or three years, you're talking, you know, 2,400, $3,600 worth of value. And I think this is one of the things that's gonna help to sustain this NFT and the value of it over time. The last thing is we just denote by saying we're gonna add additional future benefits. Well, you know, like, what the heck does that even mean? Right? Excuse me. So future benefits means, like, we see these people who hold these... This NFT as, like... They... They're like our VIPs. These are people that have hung in there with us, that that they bought this, and just really appreciate them contributing and and being a part of what we're doing. And so we're gonna look to continue to add benefits. So anything we do, whether we're dropping something new or opening up access to something, we're gonna be giving people at... The holders of this access to that first, giving them sort of first first ability to buy in if there's a drop or or something like that. Like, these are our VIPs, and, you know, we... We've got some ideas on some different things to do, know, watching, like, what Kaido's doing with their Genesis NFT and stuff like that. And so we just... We we just wanna say we aim to add future benefits onto this, and so we're we're really we're really excited about it. So, basically, you know, some logistics around it. Right? So there's gonna be a whitelist sale and a public sale. The whitelist sale starts Tuesday, May 6 at 2PM UTC, and then that lasts for four hours. And there's a public sale that starts at 6PM UTC. So the UTC or the the whitelist cost is $150 for for these in the whitelist. And then the public sale, the price goes up to $200. Or if you buy five or more, you get it for the $150 price if there's really any supply left at that point. Yeah. Whitelist, right now, we're... We've kinda... We've got the whitelist open for all of our community members to go jump in and, and do that. So if you go to crane.ai and you click on the founder's key in the top header, you'll see a join whitelist button. You can just jump into that. And so I would really, really, really encourage people if you're thinking about participating to to do that. And Jerry,
[1:27:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: quick question for you. Real real real quick question. Were you guys on the... Were you guys on Kaito or no? I I feel like... Were... I feel like I saw the the logo. Yes or no? I can't remember.
[1:28:05] Voice C: I think we might have been. I'm not sure. So my cofounder Preston, he's the one who runs all our marketing and stuff like that. So I I I think we were, but I don't know I don't know if we had, like, a really large presence or not.
[1:28:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No worries. No worries. And and, obviously, like, guys, like, you guys know that, like, community is paramount to, like, us here first. Right? Like, told Jared, I'm happy to give them the stage a 100%. Everybody's gotta do their homework when it comes to this stuff. Like, make sure you're looking into it. Like, we're not sitting here endorsing it. We're not getting paid from it. Right? Like, I share to stay with Jared on on on one of the WagMe spaces. Nice dude. Like, you guys know the drill here. Okay? Like, everybody has to do their own homework and make sure. Like, this sounds... I told Jared in the DMs myself. I was like, this sounds really cool. It showed me that, like, that video. Dope. I told him I wanna see more, man. I genuinely wanna see more out of you guys because that sounds so fucking cool. I was like, you have a whole marketplace that's coming up, man. You know what I mean? So Exactly. Would love to obviously see more from you guys. But, yeah, man, I just wanna just... Everybody, do your own homework. Do your own due deal. You guys know the drill. You hear it up here all the time. But, Jared, thank you, man. Like, it sounds really dope what you guys are building. I look forward to seeing it and hopefully testing it out, man. Like, let us be Absolutely. Like, come by here, bro. Like, once once the platform is, you know, at least in beta because I will gladly test it out and and break it or try to break it and give you guys as much feedback as you want, bro.
[1:29:31] Voice C: Absolutely. Yeah. And I would encourage people to, yeah, check us out. I mean, if you go on our white paper, you know, you can see the team. You know, we're all docs. You can see... You can go check out my LinkedIn. You can look at my background. I'm verified on LinkedIn. You know, you can see all that. You know, we're we're all pretty accessible. Right? Like, you know, I did a space this morning. We talked specifically about this, and one of the things I said was, hey. If anyone's got any questions, like, specifically for me, like, feel free to reach out. You know, my email address is is jared,jared,@crane.ai. You can you can DM. My DMs are open on on on x. You know? You can you can message me on Telegram. You know? Like, you know, I I just... I aim to be accessible, and and I know people like to sometimes, like, hey. Just, like, let me just chat with this guy, like, see, you know, who he is and if he's real and stuff. And and, you know, we're we're just, like, we're really passionate about this. We're not perfect. We're gonna make mistakes, you know, and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, you just know that we're we're trying. We're we're doing we're doing our absolute best. We're plowing through this. We're building like crazy. We're a super dedicated team. And, you know, I'm sure we're gonna get a couple things wrong, you know, probably are... Have already. You know? But, you know, if if you're looking for a team to to follow that, you know, that... That's like, you know, sort of crypto OGs that are building in the space and and pushing hard, Man, we'd we'd love to have you have you along Let's go. Us. And... Yeah. So, Dave, thanks for having me on. Appreciate you guys tolerating me here.
[1:31:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I love the conversation.
[1:31:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Much, bro. You didn't say too much. But, you're you're more than welcome, bro. Yeah, man. For sure. For sure. I wish you obviously all the best with... Good luck with the mint and everything, and, obviously, you know, the the the the future build out of the platform, man. I'm looking forward to it, dude. Yeah. For sure, bro. For sure. Okay. Guys, I know it's seven. Cool has his has his stream starting. Goddamn it. I don't know if he's gonna be able to put it on mute. Cool only comes off mute after seven to tell me that I need to find a girlfriend. Why is that? Like, it's the only reason why Cool comes off from mute. Fuck it. Right? Right, Landy?
[1:31:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's hilarious. I love it.
[1:31:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: He only comes off of mute to be like, yo, man. You need a girlfriend, bro. You get the fuck out of the... I know. Cool. I know.
[1:31:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You need to get you a wife, bro. That's
[1:31:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: nice. He
[1:31:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: was right, though.
[1:31:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, remember next week next week, Dave's our bachelor. Bring the girls.
[1:31:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bring the girls.
[1:31:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, shit.
[1:31:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit.
[1:32:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, yeah, bring the girls. Come on. Let's go. Alright. Anyways, I need one pick, and you gotta tell me why. Okay? An AI pick. Cool. I know you... I need to rip an emoji. I don't... We don't need to come to you now, but when you have a second, just chime in. Cut anybody off. I don't care. I wanna hear your pick. Who's going first? Landy, know that you're looking at something. What are you looking at?
[1:32:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm back on the Venice train, baby.
[1:32:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: For real? VVV?
[1:32:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I got in of when it was, like, under $2. I was like, you know what? I think there's something to this. And I I kind of ate way too much money, so now I'm very, very happy that it's back up.
[1:32:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Decentralized AI, man. Decentralized compute. That's where it says up 22% on the day.
[1:32:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. No. It's ripping. And and I think, you know, it's got a a pretty bright future based on what I've been reading. And I'll... I like what I... I actually started to use it. That's the main reason why. So I was like, oh, okay. I need to start checking this out and compare it to the other stuff that I'm using, and it's keeping up just fine. So I've been actually pleasantly surprised.
[1:33:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Decentralized inference, ladies and gents. Landy's listening to the stuff we're talking about up here. You guys heard. We've been talking about think agents, decentralized compute. Like, this is what it's about, 150,000,000. Do you guys remember when this airdrop came? Do you remember where, oh, boy, your favorite host over here sold $22,000,000,000 market cap? It's at a 147,000,000 right now. I mean, a, I'm a genius. Thank you very much. We're really lucky. Thank you, God.
[1:33:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, just to be fair, it's it's fully diluted as 333 mil, but, you know, I... It's To
[1:33:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: be fair. To be fair. Monk's trending. Discounting. It's only like We didn't lose a comma or anything. You know what mean? Like, we didn't throw a comma in there, but I like it. No, Lindy. I like it because this is this is like an infrastructure play almost. Right? Like, they're expanding. I love what they're doing. Their API usage is crazy. I didn't even think about this one, actually. Like, this one fell off my radar. And these... Oh my god. I still have some Venice steak. I gotta go get it. Yes. Yes, dude. Good call, Andy. Thank you, bro. And now... And guys up at $5. Look. $20,000,000 in trading volume. At the end of day, that's healthy, man. That's healthy. Things are starting to come back. What else we got? MetaBeast, AI play. What are you looking at?
[1:34:23] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, let me tell you a little story about a man named Jed. Anyway... No. Story would be mine. I guess if I had to pick, I got three Asto virtuals and Story. But Story has real world utility. Like some of the other AI projects, they're addressing a growing problem with the whole IP
[1:34:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: thing out there.
[1:34:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where's the where's where's the AI and I... For IP? Is there, like, something I missed it? Like, the... Is there... Maybe I I just don't know. But AIP. AIP. AIP. AIP. Yeah.
[1:35:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: If you say IP too many times, Alex is gonna come on stage.
[1:35:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It... Okay. So it's pioneering the intersection of blockchain IP and AI. They have... I don't I don't know how it all works behind behind there. It's... I'm still looking into it, but once you have something... Like, I have some characters on there. And I don't know how... Like like I said, I don't know how the I p... Or the I... AI part works, but it can work with other... People can people can buy licenses to use your characters. Or if you have stories or art you wanna put on there, you can put that on there as well. But I
[1:35:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: like it.
[1:35:43] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It can work with other AIs as well.
[1:35:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love it.
[1:35:48] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: What they plan shit.
[1:35:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:35:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And it's at, like, $4.10 or something, I think, right now.
[1:35:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. $4.14, up three and a half percent. Okay. Nice. I like it. Guys, stop giving me rich people shit. Right? Like, give me the fucking... The triple 0 something that's undiscovered. What the hell? Gamer, I know you came with swarm. You came with the rest of it. What do you got for me, bro?
[1:36:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I haven't been playing too much in here. So
[1:36:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't make nothing up.
[1:36:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Actually... No. No. No. No. I I would still pay attention to the defay category since no one else is gonna bring it up. I think AI XBT is the largest one in that category right now. But, yeah, I I would just pay attention to the defi... You know, the DeFi AI category because I still think that, because it's kinda like what you were talking about before, Dave, about, you know, once these agents go live and they start, you know, communicating with each other, they gotta have a way to make money. So... Know? And that's not gonna be through a centralized entity. Right? So it's gotta be decentralized. So, yeah, I'm I'm still looking at the decentralized, you know, DeFi AI category.
[1:37:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: So it's interesting. Like, I don't know if AIXBT falls into that. I mean, I guess it... I mean, yeah. It...
[1:37:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Kinda, but not really. Yeah. But but really, it would be like Griffin. Right? Like Griffin was, like, a big one before, SNAI. Yeah. Right? The Swarm. Yeah.
[1:37:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Because a lot of these, like, they have to be built by a team. You know what I'm saying? But I like where your head's at, Gamer, and I got a really good one that y'all are gonna be like, what the fuck? Let me see. Wagme, you have any... You gotta pick for us?
[1:37:40] Voice E: Well, you know me. I'm a huge Stacks fan. You know, I like the whole philosophy of building on Bitcoin. So with that, I would... You know, the two that I'm watching in this particular space, one is Satoshi AI. I remember when that first launched, like, a lot of the OGs and, founders, you know, were talking about that one a lot on socials. And, you know, I I see that it's still got life, you know, even all the way back from that launch. And then the other thing is, AI BTC, which is another, app in the ecosystem. From what I understand, though, they don't have, like, an actual token. But what their platform does is that it allows people to create AI DAOs. And then those individual DAOs do have a token that's associated with. So you can basically say, hey. Go create me a DAO that is focused on this initiative. And then it spins up its own token. The AIs manage the DAO in conjunction with the people of the in conjunction with the token holders. So those are the two that I'm watching.
[1:38:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Good stuff. So just to clarify, the Satoshi AI, you're talking about Cypher Genesys?
[1:38:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. He is not. S s a I is the ticker for the Satoshi AI he's talking about. Cypher Genesys is something completely different unless Wagme...
[1:38:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. I know, but that's also Satoshi AI. That sounds like which which one are you talking about?
[1:39:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So s a I, I think, is the ticker. Wagme, correct me if I'm wrong. SAI is this ticker, the one that's owned by, or that that, Tycho started, right, that built?
[1:39:12] Voice E: I believe so. Yeah. I believe so. But, yeah, the ticker's SAI. And then on the AIBTC one, you know, it's like a whole bunch of tickers that's, you know... Because people use the individual DAOs, and they all spin up their own.
[1:39:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. That that... That's a Toshi AI, I think, 3,058 on on CoinGecko. It's trading at 0.0008163 currently. Be careful, obviously, with those. It's not too too much volume, guys. Maybe it comes back, maybe it doesn't. Who knows? Again, everything with a grain of salt. We're just going around seeing what people's favorite picks are. Sunny d, what do you got for me?
[1:39:47] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Hey. You know, I was gonna say Junie's my favorite, but I'm gonna keep it
[1:39:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why you gotta highlight that?
[1:39:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Why you gotta set her
[1:39:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: up for failure like that? That's the whole mess up, man.
[1:40:00] Sunny D @dylN0chill: There's a project being built on Tron right now that's a b to b insurance agent... AI agent. And so they're building an interface so people can get insurance for their businesses, whether they're in agriculture or automotive. It's going to be all things insurance, and you just communicate with your AI agent.
[1:40:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, interesting. Okay.
[1:40:28] Sunny D @dylN0chill: And their ticker is CORA, c o r a. And they
[1:40:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: have they have a token already?
[1:40:36] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yeah. We'll have to have them on the show sometime. They're they're interesting guys. They're out Midwest. Been in business... They got a real life business, and then they just started building an AI agent for their business. And they've gotten a lot of, like, like, insurance world accreditations and awards for what they're doing, but they're not making that big of a wave in crypto right now.
[1:41:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that, man. I like that a lot. Yeah. It's... That's the one I'm talking about. Like, those... That's the shit I want, the undiscovered stuff....
[1:41:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hear more about this because I literally... We have a brokerage... A family owned brokerage that that is all insurance based. And, obviously, there's other things because it's a brokerage firm, but insurance brokerage is the primary source of, the business. And we've been hearing about AI products. I'd be curious to hear if you can get them on here. I would love that.
[1:41:36] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Cool. I tagged them down below. They they hop on my Megaspaces quite frequently, so there'd be no problem to get them on here. Super knowledgeable. And, yeah, I I heard that. I was like, wow. Real world crypto project for business insurance. That's applicable to pretty much anybody who runs a business. So let's go.
[1:41:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what I want, man. I wanna own 1% of, like, that total outstanding fucking float at literally, like, fucking peanuts. I wanna spend $4,500 on one three, $400 on 1% and just watch everything fly when the AI monster boom comes. Okay. I'm a give y'all two of them. Right? First one, yeah, if y'all don't know this, you were sleeping on it. I sat through this demo, and I watched what these dudes built. Okay? Tensorium, TNSR. For the record, I have not bought any yet. I do not own any of it yet. Nothing. I haven't even opened up a new fucking wallet yet since my hack. So what these guys have built with AI agent hustle, like Chris, fucking Adam, Jake, and Shannon and and that whole crew, bro, $2,000,000 in in average daily trading volume. This thing is literally at 0.2 of a penny. These are the undiscovered gems. Again, NFA, you guys know this fucking drill. Okay? Like... But this is something that I am genuinely taking a look at. Wait. Sorry. I misspoke. Let me let me rephrase that. It is 1,900,000 in FDV. Right? Light twenty four hour trading volume. It was only about... I... From what CoinGecko showed me $3,132,000. So be very careful. I definitely wanna make sure that that's clear. The market cap FDV is less than $2,000,000. Okay? Totally fair launched on Solana, like, 100%. And I think when you look at, like, what this is, it is light years ahead of what's... Like, what anybody else is doing. And, Gamer, when you said AIXBT, these guys literally use the AIXBT fucking API and plug it into this as just one facet and one portion of what they're doing. No. I am not getting paid for any of this shit. Just just so everybody knows.
[1:43:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So... No. Actually, it... I've actually heard of this project before. It's funny you brought it up, but I was like, story. I was like, and then... And when you... I was about to say the ticker, t t n s r. I was like, oh, shit. That is the same project. No. No. No.
[1:44:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: But don't don't confuse it with Tensor. That's different. Right? Tensor is the one with the... Like, all the subnets. That's a... That's very different. This has the same ticker. Yeah.
[1:44:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Okay. Thank you for clarifying.
[1:44:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. This has the same ticker, but is completely different. This is an AI agent on itself, and you can actually go use this right now. Chris, I don't know if you have a second. I don't know if you can chat, but I'm just gonna shoot you a quick little invite to come up because AI... This AI agent hustle, bro, what these guys were doing is... Bro, it was way more than any other, like, trading agent bot. I mean, you name it. Right? Like, it was doing so much. So... Yeah, man. I mean, I'm really curious to see kinda how this stuff shakes out. But as far as, like, looking at, like, cheap crypto plays, this is definitely one that I'm keeping on the radar.
[1:44:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And what's what's number two?
[1:44:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: So number two, I can't find, like, where it's listed, but last night, I was on with Alex Finn. And Creator Buddy, which, like, literally over the course of two months, now has almost, like, 600 in AR in annual recurring revenue, has a fucking token named Buddy that he doesn't control that is through a company called Believe. Do you guys know what this is? It's like some fancy, some, like, big name celebrity that does this land. Do you know what I'm talking about?
[1:45:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I don't remember who it is though.
[1:45:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I forgot the guy's name. It's sue... He's super
[1:45:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: listening I was listening in to that, by the way. Right? Great space. Interesting stuff.
[1:45:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, I've been I've been trying to crack the fucking... The Alex Finn fucking nut for a while. Pause. But, like, you get what I'm saying? Like, this dude is one of the most influential people out here, and he is doing some crazy things. And finally, I was able to, like, fucking, you know, like, get in the good graces. And guess what? You know what he said he's building? A fucking bookmark agent. Yep. I know. Right? You heard I couldn't believe it, Lindsay. Like, I said it first, and then he said it nonchalantly, like, twenty five minutes later. I'm like, is he punking me right now? But, like, bro,
[1:46:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: it's amazing. That's when I jumped in.
[1:46:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I
[1:46:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: was like, wait a minute. Who's... Did you just link up with that? We're so confused.
[1:46:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wild. Keep listening. It was fun. But I like... Like, and look. I haven't done any research into it. Right? So this is not, like, after doing tons of homework. I wanna be clear. I like Creator Buddy. I think the idea is novel. He's making money. I don't know what the tokenomics are, but what I do know is they're licensing essentially these things like this believe company is almost like licensing it to where Alex doesn't have tokens. He just gets paid off of trading volume. And $23,000,000 a day in trading volume is not fucking bad to be getting paid. So now you don't have to worry about a founder fucking dumping and rugging on you, which is really nice. Anyways, Chris. So, guys, that one is Buddy. I gotta find the actual ticker, and I think it's... I'm almost sure it's on Solana. I'll find the the actual CA for you guys. But, Chris, welcome, man. Give us the quick low low on the agent hustle, bro, and school these people on TNSR.
[1:47:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Boys. Boys. Boys. What's good?
[1:47:08] Chris Dev @chris_devv: Can you hear me? I'm in the middle of a workout test, but happy to hop on. As long as you can hear me, let me know.
[1:47:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You're good, bro.
[1:47:14] Chris Dev @chris_devv: Solid, bro. So, yeah, Ethan is a movie go by. He picked up the ticker himself. He was fully autonomous, so that whole project was built around him. He wanted the, token to be named Tensorium, so the token was named Tensorium. It goes by agent. It's a full stack AI platform, on chain DCA, limit orders, research, token trading strategies, recommends all type of kind of points from the trenches. So everything that you would need, we call it, like, an on chain investigator or a trench assistant, fully automates your your trading strategies, curates them, creates them. It's pretty thick. It's fully usable, already live. It's been live for about four months now. The the website is agenthustle.ai. And, I mean, reaching all time high daily users every single day. Our founder, Shannon Code, has been building an AI for over twelve years. It's built by the m one bot team that's been... I've been crypto for over ten years. I mean, it's it's the real deal. We do live training sessions with him a couple times a week. We just did a a fire set with Dave a couple days ago. And, I mean, the thing that he's probably best at at the moment is just kind of picking tickers for the trenches. He analyzes volume patterns, folder folder... He analyzes folder statistics. He's just kind of there for whatever you guys wanna use him for, and he's totally powered by all these different AI platforms. So the community finds new ways to kind of use them and and integrate them... Integrate him and their training strategies every single day. So, fire away any questions that you have, but it's, you know, I I put out a tweet earlier. There's a huge gap between an idea and a fully functioning DeFi AI platform. That that gap is tremendous. And so to get a product live, to get hundreds of users, thousands of use... You know, hundreds of users daily through him and thousands of users that are on him every single week is a is a pretty big task in crypto. So we're we're happy that he's he's working with all he is and... As he is, and he's... We're launching new features on him every single day. So super sick. Thank you so much for wrapping us up. And if you have any questions, happy to get a a big fan of answering them and go through any
[1:49:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: these features. It's free to use. Let everybody know. Like, you can use it for free right now. Right?
[1:49:40] Chris Dev @chris_devv: Yes, sir. So it is free to use. There is a token gate, which means you just deposit one sold just to kind of deter spam, but you can withdraw the one Solana anytime after. So it is free to use at the moment. It will be going token gated probably in the next thirty or sixty days. If you haven't used a DeFi AI agent yet, go to agenthustle.ai. Ask him what he can do. Any questions that you have, just shoot it straight to the agent, and he'll fire immediately back with all the capabilities that he has. I mean, if you're transacting manually, you're gonna be left in the dust. Everyone is go... The entire industry is moving on chain, and they're using these AI agents, and they will be using these AI agents to transact. So, I put out a tweet a couple of days ago. If you're manually transacting, you're bringing a knife to an Apache helicopter pipe, and that's, like, facts, bro. The the the advancements that he has and that he allows the everyday trader to kind of level up their game with is incredible. So if you haven't used an AI agent, get on... Even get on any of them. Get on Banker. Get on Griffin. Get on any of these other ways, or just go to agenthustle.ai and shoot any questions, any thoughts straight into the terminal. I promise they'll be blown away.
[1:50:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. And, guys, I watched the live demo. Again, I I wanna be super clear with everybody. I literally own zero of this fucking token. I was super wowed by, like, the fucking... By by the demo these guys gave me and what it was doing and how it and how it does it. And you guys know that I'm a very big... I'm very big on founders. Right? I'm very, very big on founders. And I feel like I've known Shannon since... I mean, that's probably been almost a couple of years now since I started with the... On the wolf spaces. He was coming into, like, the RWA and deep end spaces, bro. Like... And, like, people, as you get to know them, like, you weed out, like, the bullshit, and you get to understand, like, who the real ones are out here. Right? And this team, if you know Jake and Adam, like, you see them in space, bro, the emblem vault team is synonymous with the Ordinals fucking community, period. End of story. The Bitcoin community. So the guys that are in here in the trenches, those are the guys that I'm out here, like, looking at what they're doing. And if they're putting a product out that is light years ahead of everybody else, and it has a token completely fair launched, which, by the way, I told them today they're fucking crazy for fair launching and that they need to go out and buy as much of their token as possible because they need to own as much as possible if they're gonna do the shit that they really wanna do. Do not leave it in too many of the degens' hands because fucking they're crate... D gens are crazy. But, man, I mean, I love seeing this kind of shit. I thought it was incredible. Yeah, man. Chris, good stuff. Listen, guys. This was just the, hey. Take a look at this kind of segment. So if anybody has any questions, yeah, keep keep it to the top.
[1:52:24] Chris Dev @chris_devv: Even if you don't wanna go check out the platform, just keep out the livestream that we did with Dave. Everything is done live. There's no fluff. We don't fluff the numbers. Everything is legit. If you don't wanna go to the platform, just check out the livestream that we did with Dave, and you can see it firsthand. I think you guys will like it.
[1:52:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Appreciate it, bro. Good stuff. Yeah, man. I brought Shannon into the Think space today. Like, I I want people to start... Like, I want this entire AI network of mine to start networking with each other because you guys know, like, we... I I mean, I'm big on ThinkAgents and Mikey and and Jesse and what they're doing over there. So, yeah, man, it's gonna be it's gonna be some crazy stuff cooking up here, man. But, Chris, man, I wish you the best of luck, dude. Like, you and the whole team, like, you guys are fucking aces in my book. And, yeah, man, you guys have my support, and I I I hope to see you guys fucking crush out here, dude. Thank you. Alright. I think that's it, ladies and gents. Unless anybody has anything else they wanna add or if they have any questions for Chris, let me know. I'll give you a little... I'll give you a thirty second.
[1:53:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Feature request. Feature request.
[1:53:24] Chris Dev @chris_devv: What you got?
[1:53:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Chris, please pass this along. I want agent Hustle to manage liquidity pools on Radium and Meteora for me so I don't have to keep doing this shit. It's so time consuming.
[1:53:37] Chris Dev @chris_devv: He does have Radium integration live for farming. So yield farming is live with Radium. We're adding Neora next. So DLMs will be added next. He does auto balance. We go... He was able to manage them for you. It's live. You can check it out right now.
[1:53:56] Voice C: Feature request.
[1:53:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. Thanks, Lindy. Beautiful. Chris, thank you very much. Guys, check it out. And that's all we got for today and for the week. Cool. I know if you wanted to throw one in. I appreciate you or if you're midstream. Yes. I know. I need a girlfriend. I need a wife. I need a lot of things, but appreciate everybody. Great week. Good stuff. I got some good things cooking for next week. Hopefully, some special guests that I'm in the DMs with. Jared, appreciate you, man, guys. Don't forget to go check out the NFT mint that Jared's got cooking with Crane. Landy, appreciate it. Wagme, always appreciate you coming through, man. I love... Bro, Wagme is as loyal as it fucking gets. People should be so lucky to get a guy like WagMe in their community, man. So ride or die. Good stuff. Gamer, with the fucking CET call already. Like, enough. Like, that's it. The week's over. Monday, you're... There's no putting up the fucking CET call. Okay? That's enough. Appreciate it. Sunny d, as always, bro, great space with you this morning. Meta Beast, amazing ad. Appreciate it. And everybody, have a great weekend. And... Yeah. Yeah.
[1:55:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I bought a bag of Tensorium. Let's go.
[1:55:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, let's go, gamer. I love that.
[1:55:10] Chris Dev @chris_devv: Use the platform. Check out the platform. Agenthustle.ai. You'll love it.
[1:55:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Go play with it for sure. And all my Junie got stolen, bro. Like, I I had so much Junie, bro. Oh, no. All my Junie got fucking taken, man. Like, why would they it it it shouldn't even come up in some wallets. You know what I mean? That's how fucking... Whatever. But we'll we'll shoot... Junie will be back. She'll be back. We'll we'll we'll gonna figure something out. But, yeah, man. Guys, wish me luck. I also have to put, this bookmark idea together for Hedera over the next twenty four hours. So wish me luck,
[1:55:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: and let's see if we win
[1:55:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: a fucking hackathon. Fucking hackathon.
[1:55:44] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hey. You said it was... You said it's Chris. Right? Chris Chris is the one with the Tesori?
[1:55:50] Chris Dev @chris_devv: Yes, sir.
[1:55:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Okay. I'm gonna... There we go. Yep. We're good to go.
[1:55:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, can we close out now, Gamer? You good?
[1:55:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yep. Yep. I'm good now. Let's go.
[1:56:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Wait. Yep. Feature request. Have a good weekend, everybody. Wee. Yeah. Wee. Have a good weekend, everybody. We'll see y'all later. Peace. You guys see what I did there? Muted everybody. That's a new trick. Somebody did that the other day. Was like, this is fucking genius. I So don't have to listen to Mar with his bullshit anymore. Hey, yo, Landy. Landy. Yo, Mar, get out of here, bro. Have a good weekend, guys.