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Episode · Jun 3, 2025

All Things Crypto: Pump.fun native token launch at $4B valuation

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The space opened with casual banter about Vegas recovery and host availability before diving deep into the SocialFi meta, with heavy focus on Kaito dominance, Yap Markets rewards, CookieDAO airdrops, Wallchain leaderboards, and the influence gap between large KOL accounts and smaller grinders. Speakers discussed airdrop strategies, YT SKaido plays on Pendle, the sustainability of daily yapping, and the importance of entering projects early. The conversation shifted to market technicals, particularly Bitcoin's weekly bearish divergence and the critical $103,100 level. Significant time was spent analyzing Telegram's $1.7B convertible bond raise and its implications for the TON ecosystem, followed by a detailed breakdown of Pump.fun's planned native token launch at a $4B FDV, which drew mostly skeptical reactions regarding timing, competition, and historical extraction behavior. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

On the mic
DaveKoolLandyKkomaSunny DMetaBeast
Chapters
Opening banter and host check-in
Vegas trip recovery stories
SocialFi takeover and Kaito dominance
CookieDAO surprise airdrop and Hey Anon OG rewards
Sustainability of daily yapping and leaderboard grinding
Ceiling effects, large KOL influence vs smaller accounts on Wallchain and Kaito
Pendle YT SKaido strategy for upcoming airdrops
Market technicals, Bitcoin bearish divergence, and $103,100 level
Injective joining Kaito post-TGE rewards
Telegram $1.7B convertible bond raise and TON implications
Pump.fun native token launch at $4B FDV
Competition in meme launchpad space and timing concerns
Pump.fun extraction history and skepticism toward the token
Binance Alpha, on-chain grinding, and shifting airdrop meta
Wallchain quests, leaderboards, and chain-specific mindshare
Closing remarks and upcoming Bindi AI episode
Transcript
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# All Things Crypto: Pump.fun native token launch at $4B valuation | 2025-06-03 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1gqxvjXwARpxB | status: approved
# Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed.

[0:00:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo, Lindy. I just have to... I'm just rechecking. I'm just downstairs at the front desk, so I I literally need, like, probably ten minutes just to recheck in. So ship is yours. Welcome
[0:00:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: to ATC, everybody. Go ahead and, like, and share this out there, please. Let everybody know that we are That's hella weird. Alive.
[0:00:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's hella weird when you say it
[0:01:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: like that. Well I
[0:01:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: like it.
[0:01:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: I like it. I'm not Junie. I'm not Junie, unfortunately. I don't have the voice for it as it turns out. I wish I did. Yeah. Go ahead and share it out there. Let everybody know that we're live. I mean, live. And and then we're gonna talk about... Telegram raised $1,700,000,000. They did? No shit. I probably should've been paying attention to the news today. Good thing I'm here.
[0:01:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Come on up, Sunny. Save everyone from just listening to me.
[0:01:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Meanwhile, let's see. I don't know where Cole is. Is Cool gonna come through today?
[0:01:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Does Cool know that we're here? What if he doesn't?
[0:02:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can't fire cool.
[0:02:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: You can't? Are you sure?
[0:02:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can't I can't fire cool.
[0:02:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, that's okay. I don't think he... I don't think he's a little too big to fire, actually.
[0:02:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: But, yeah, where is everybody today? What's going on? What's up, Crypto Block Exchange? I see you. Got no credits down there. See Sunny up here. What's up, Sunny?
[0:02:34] Kkoma @itskkoma: Good afternoon.
[0:02:38] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Just chilling. I'm still recovering from Vegas.
[0:02:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: It sounds like a lot of people are. It certainly looks like it when I'm looking out in the audience here as well. It's like, yeah, everybody's in Vegas. Maybe they're stuck. They're they're checking in. They're checking out. They're getting on flights. They're in the air. They're on the ground, passed out. Really kinda depends on on where you're at in life at this point.
[0:03:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: It's like Yeah.
[0:03:06] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Memories from the trip. Like, little details keep, like, percolating back into my brain as it, like... As I filter through it. I find myself staring off into space just being like, did that really just happen?
[0:03:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, how was Vegas for you?
[0:03:25] Sunny D @dylN0chill: It was good. I played pretty low key, stayed a little bit off the strip in an Airbnb. I was there to do some specific things. I didn't get a chance to see Dave. Dave, I don't know how you host spaces on hotel Wi Fi.
[0:03:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Neither does anybody else.
[0:03:46] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Or even pay attention to a to a schedule like that and and hit it. So I was impressed with that at least. I've tried to make it through it, but I couldn't... As you guys heard, I was in and out. So just was in the audience most of those those spaces.
[0:04:06] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Cool is here.
[0:04:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up, Cool?
[0:04:11] Voice E: Hey. Hey. I guess I guess... Sorry. I'm late, Mac. I have a switch phone, so that's why. Well, I'm almost on the way. Yeah. Yeah. Switch phones. I guess doing happy Tuesday. Let's go. Let's do it.
[0:04:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yep. We're waiting for our illustrious leader over here. He's, in the midst of of doing... Well, I'm not really quite sure. I think he said he's either checking out or checking back in. I'm not... I I really have no clue. But he's, he's talking to the receptionist there, apparently.
[0:04:42] Voice E: Wait. He's he's in he's in Vegas?
[0:04:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I think he's in California.
[0:04:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, okay. I got it. Got you.
[0:04:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: So, I mean, we're we're definitely gonna get into things. Oh, Koma's trying to come up. And, of course, he was up here just a moment ago, but I just saw him connecting forever. So
[0:05:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. I told him I couldn't fire you because it takes too long for a fucking sloth to get out of the office. So it's just... It... It's... It'll cost me more money. It'll cost us more money to get rid of you. So you're you're pardoned. It's fine.
[0:05:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Cool. Go
[0:05:25] Voice F: ahead. No. No. No.
[0:05:27] Voice E: I was just saying, was... Also, what... What's going on, man? What's... What are you guys doing when it comes to markets, man? Anything anything interesting? From my from my side, I'm just SocialFi has taken over my entire life, man. So that's what I'm focusing on. Nothing else right now. But for you guys, what are you guys doing on your on your timeline? What's going on?
[0:05:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I could tell you this, Cole. As soon as I liked one of your posts, your SocialFi addiction took over my feed and my life as well because now all I see is literally everything that's going on in all of the different SocialFi networks and all of the projects associated with them. And I was like, I had no idea what... I have no idea and had no idea until now what any of this was. It did the same with Coma, and now I'm just getting assaulted with everything that has to do with, quacks and yaps and all kinds of fun stuff. And now I'm like, I... If I go check out these networks, I'm not sure if I'm early late or if I'll get a TGE or if if if I even understand how any of this fits in anything, then I realized I wouldn't have looked at one of your posts. It had nothing to do with any of it.
[0:06:47] Voice E: You know you know you know what's crazy? You know, I was I was thinking today. I said... I was thinking there hasn't really been a big airdrop since Kaito. Kaito has taken over everything. So, basically, I think it's very, very strange. I don't think there's been. Ever since Kaito launched in the past, like, four months, all the large rewards have come from Kaito projects. I mean, through virtuals, through the the Kaito leaderboard, but it hasn't necessarily... I I haven't seen anything that big, man. I don't think so. And it just... I don't know. They've really... They've destroyed them. I mean, not destroyed, but they've they've changed the way things are. I mean, I saw Coma to the Coma claim easy five five in a box. So... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Tell us, man. What what what what happened, man? I saw that I saw that with a cookie dough. Right?
[0:07:41] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yes, sir. So I was confused this morning because I wasn't really... I don't know. I wasn't really paying attention. I was trying to look at my funds and figure out, like, certain money coming in, certain money coming out, doing the accounting and and whatnot. And then I saw this, like, $500 of cookie dough on my account. And I'm like, it's another another scam token probably, but you know what? Let's just look at the CA. And the CA was matching. I was like, wait. What what is this? And then I had to do it, like, three times. I, like, went on coin market cap. I went on, like, deck screener just to make sure it was right. And, you know, it was $500 of cookie DAO. So I was like, okay. Maybe it's because I have the cookie DAO badge. Right? The OG badge. So I made a post today saying, like, hey. I got $500. I don't know why, but I think it's because of this. And then everybody started responding to it and started logging into Cookie hoping that they also got the $500 of air... Cookie doll... Airdrop. And I know Cool did too probably, but, yeah, like, everyone and their sister went to Cookie Down. They're like, hey. We we don't know. We didn't get anything. What's... Are you scamming us? Like, are you just bait farming? And then I realized later that I also have a Hey Anon OG badge, and it looks like projects are now collaborating with CookieDAO to reward their, I guess, loyal followers or their OG members. And as one of their, like, initiatives, you know, Hey Anon team gave out the... Like, these $500 to the OG, like, supporters. And then from what I've heard, like, based on the leaderboard activity on Hey Anon, you could also get HeyAnon tokens as well, like, later down the line. So there really is, like, competition. I I... For me, I've always never really cared about leaderboards for HeyAnon because I I still... I hold a pretty decent bag. I'm a big believer in them, but just getting this little extra steamy does not hurt at all. So, yeah, I... I'm very happy today. Got $500, and I also got, like, paid through Yap Markets because they went from v one to v two. So I had, like, three or four jobs that were still pending, and so I got, like, a 180 Kaido from that. I think I've accumulated almost, like, 500 Kaido through YapMarkets. So, yeah, all of that went straight to SKaido. I'm just... I I can't keep up with, like, the money coming in, and that's a good problem to have right now. Like, seriously, it's a good problem to have, and I... I'm I'm I'm enjoying it.
[0:10:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look, man. The the the free path to making money is accessible to everybody right now. And it's it's funny that you you mentioned that you can't keep up with it. I have a friend, maybe they're in the audience. I'm not sure. But, you know, not not a substantially large account, but has been growing because of the kind of interaction on the timeline and going after some of the Kaido stuff and participating in the various ecosystems. And they're actually able to claim and and get in on the action, which is kinda cool because they are growing their account. They're getting followers, and they're getting more interactions, and they're getting paid. So they're enjoying it right now. At what point does that turn into a slog, though, of, like, now I'm, like, working, working? Is that, like, when you're getting big enough and you're trying to, like, work your way into a certain section of the leaderboards, or is there a point where this takes a turn that's just like, ah, this is, like, this is really a slog for not getting as much out of it as I'm putting in kinda thing?
[0:11:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. That's a great question. To be honest, I I I really enjoy this. Like, it's it's I don't feel like I'm really... Sure. I have a schedule, don't get me wrong, of things I will... I I feel like I need a post, and I do it, but it's so fun to me. And, like, I guess the money does help, but I I was kinda doing this before I was I I was, you know, on Kaido and stuff like that with Stacks. But, you you know, sometimes with Stacks, like, it it does feel like a bubble at times. So, like, you know, when you don't get the views or you don't get the likes, it is somewhat like... You you start to lose motivation. But when you get such a big response from other people that reply to you and, like, show you support and things like that. That that feels like a drug, you know, almost. It's, like, addicting. And then on top of that, you know, if you could get financially rewarded for it, it's it's it's even better. Right? So, yeah, there are certain projects probably, you know, you're less excited about, but you could always say no. You know? Like, I I I feel like I'm in a pretty decent financial position where I can say no if if the project doesn't interest me. Like, I don't chase every project. And, like, I think Kaido is starting to crack down on that in terms of, like, loyalty factor and stuff like that. So one of the big challenges that I took for myself is talking about Arbitrum. I use Arbitrum, so it it felt easy to talk about. But, you know, a lot of big accounts are probably gonna wanna talk about them because their their rewards are really high. But I think it's really fun to challenge myself and see where I can go with this, especially because I think if my account was what it was, like, two months ago, I wouldn't go for it because it's too small, and I probably won't be able to get enough traction. But I I feel like I'm in a decent spot where I can at least try. And if I fail, whatever, it is what it is. I still could... I still connected with a lot of people from the Arborsham team so they know who I am, at least if if we ever need to do something in the future together. So I I feel like I'm checking off a lot of boxes of, like, not just for the money, but increasing my following, increasing my, like, circle, and put... Hopefully increasing my network by being surrounded by those people. Right? So, yeah, I... I'm trying to play the long term game because, yeah, like, doing this as a daily grind is pretty unsustainable.
[0:14:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I... I'm curious because I wonder if there's a ceiling when you're... With some of this stuff because it's all algorithmically driven and kind of out of the gate. A lot of these platforms favor large account followings, especially, like, when you start looking into the the ranking system even for, something like Wallchain. And, like, you see that there's, you know, very influential accounts, but they're not even crypto related that have, like, a thousand. Right? Obviously, all of the most popular accounts on x, but then there's a whole, like, sub tier that are up there quite far that are very high that don't talk about crypto. So I'm wondering if there's, like... If if there is some sort of a ceiling or a cap at some point where you're just running into a brick wall. Cool. What do you think?
[0:15:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: As somebody that uses this stuff and has a... You you have a significant following.
[0:15:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: So I
[0:15:18] Voice E: I am here, but I'm buying some avocado real quick. You're good.
[0:15:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: You're Two two minutes, bro. Give me two minutes....
[0:15:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: To you, brother. I'll come back to you, brother. Yeah. It's it's kinda... I just wonder.
[0:15:30] Sunny D @dylN0chill: There is a ceiling.
[0:15:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: There is a ceiling. I mean, there's only twenty four hours in a day. You need to go to sleep. Like, there... You can't talk about everything and anything. And, I guess what... Are you trying to say, like, do you end up, like, having to niche down and staying in a certain tribe kinda thing? Like, like, I can't keep talking about newer projects or stuff like that? Or are you saying... Like, you know, what is this feeling that you're envisioning, I guess?
[0:15:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I mean, like, it's... There's there's there's guys like you. There's guys like Cool and and and Dave and many others, including people that are in the audience here, where you have... You know, you... You're you're participating either naturally or you're you're specifically focusing on something, and then you have an Ansem that ends up at the top of the leaderboard automatically with a... Just like a poster too. Whereas, you know, it is like how much you have to work for it versus somebody else who just enters the game, and then immediately, they're they're kind of way up high because of their... Or... Because of their built in follower account and history. Maybe they're posting about a project or platform or something like that. I mean, it it would make sense if they were posting consistently about that platform. Like
[0:16:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Like, you're basically saying, like, does it feel defeating when someone that has a huge account, like, starts posting about this project and then suddenly, like, that traction you're developing is, like, dropping significantly because of their, like, mind share or or their explosiveness. Like, you know, their... The ability to to capture more eyes on their posts. Right?
[0:17:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Essentially.
[0:17:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah.
[0:17:11] Voice E: Because
[0:17:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: I watched the... I've watched now Wallchain take off after... You know, we've been talking about it here for quite some time. Dave, Cool, myself, you, and others giving out, you know, invites and stuff like that. And now that they're starting to expand and everyone's talking about it, obviously, some of the bigger, quote, unquote, KOL accounts are starting to come on to the leaderboards. And it's just interesting that without really posting about anything, they're immediately moving to the top of those leaderboards. And it's not just a wall chain thing. Right? Because it's already built in. You can see when you're inviting bigger accounts what their score is already. So now that it's... Now that they're on there and there's specific categorized leaderboards, we saw the same thing with Kaito. Right? If if somebody, now it did kinda start to equal out, though. Like, people who are grinding actually working their way back up, but the the immediate boost of the more notable larger accounts once they were invited or signed up started to... They they instantly shot to, like, the top tier of the leaderboard without much work or even, in that case, yapping about a particular project. I feel like there was a bit of a realignment there. Maybe I'm just perceiving that now. Do you think...
[0:18:34] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. That's part of the game, though, honestly. Like, you can't... I mean, even for a skate chain, they they they changed their whole, like, they changed their whole, like, system of how to get potential airdrops to essentially a volume game. The more volume you generate on account, the more allocation you'll get from the airdrop. Right? And I guess I could say, oh, well, I've been doing this for three months. And now since I don't have capital compared to these, millionaires, you know, this is unfair. Like, there's just so many scenarios like this where it... If anything, we should be happy with wall chain in terms of, like, they're actually getting more traction, and we should be happy that we got in early when we did. So if we try to get it now with everyone else is get coming in, we're prob... We'll be at a bigger disadvantage. Right? So maybe we're going from, like, rank 20 to, like, rank 60 or 50, but we still eat. Right? We still eat pretty good depending on where we rank on the the leaderboard. Right? So the... I think the end goal is if if anything, we... What it teaches me is that we just need to be better. We need to become more influential, hopefully, and then we could be the ones that are, you know, those people. Right? Like, that's the ultimate goal is to get more influence. So at least that's how I think about it. But, yeah.
[0:20:01] Voice E: No. No. So so I, I I do agree with this. I I did see something this morning. It was very fascinating because I'm... This info five stuff, I like it because it... It's fun, man. It's fun. It's just something different. So I I I I put a lot of my energy into this this kind of stuff. It's just different. So I looked at the watching leaderboard, and I saw Ansem went up 100 spots within couple hours. It's crazy. So the the influence, it it doesn't... So I think these projects, they want... Okay. So is it good for a smaller account to be top 10, top top five? I don't think so, man, because you want... Yeah. I mean, I I I I mean, it's not fair. Nothing is fair. Right? The the world we live in is not fair. Right? Right? So it does make sense for the bigger accounts to to be top of the leaderboard. Because if they are on top, they they attract, their users... Other users. Because of of, yes... Yesterday... Wapi, yesterday with, you know, Wallchain, you know, being tweeted from Ansim's account and the founder of Solana. Because of that reason, Wallchain has had, like, a 5000% gain in mindshare on crypto Twitter. So so... And that's why every every single tweet, almost every single tweet tweet I saw today is all about wall chain, wall chain, wall chain. And, but the... For the smaller people, smaller accounts, the only way you could come back... There's two ways. It's either you're extremely active or you're early. Because even though even though I, even though... I mean, I've been in I've been in war chain about, what what, two months? We took... Two months. I'm still... I'm ranked number 24, but it took Ansem less than three, four hours to go up on 100 spots. I think Ansem is ranked number two now. Number two. And so that that that shows you the kind of influence it has. And I think this is what, protocols want. They they want a mixture of different users, with different different types of influence, but they want the bigger influencers to be on top because they bring the users. So if you have smaller account, you have to get there early. That's the only way. And I think, you know, how do you get there early? You have to follow the people that drop alpha on their timeline all the time. That's the only... You you will you will never hear about this stuff. As part of... I I got a message on on Sunday. Right? I don't even... Is he here? I don't see him. He messaged me saying that, yeah, because of me, he made, like, $3, man, from, what's it called? From, from Loud. Because when when I when I talked about Loud, I I got there... Like, I got I got to Loud a little bit early too. So I tweeted it, and he just went nuts, like, just by messaging everyone, DMing everyone, replying everyone, retweeting out loud, and he made made it on on on the top, the top, the top 1,000 accounts. And I think that that that might be the largest win he's had probably in a long time. But that's what I was trying
[0:23:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: to say. Right? Like, you can't...
[0:23:21] Voice E: We can't compete against these people. Right? But all you could do is get that early, and you get that early by following the right accounts. Once they tweet something, you're there, from from day one. And I think, that's probably hard to play this because I just feel like... It doesn't make any sense, man, because I'm seeing... I'm watching Crypto Twitter right now, and there hasn't been one project that's that's had a large reward for users outside, Kaito projects. I I just don't... I don't I don't I don't see any. And and and if they do, it's very small. As... I'm seeing... There was one that came out recently called LayerEdge, and people were offset, man, because they they grinded hard on this, and they didn't get anything. But, yeah, man, I don't know. It's just... It's the Infify season. I don't know how long does this last, but I... They've dominated so much, and I don't think it's gonna stop, man. Because as of right now, I counted 10 guaranteed airdrop for Kaito stakers and Kaito NFT holders. 10. 10 projects. Just imagine if those 10 give you 1 k each. That's $10 right there. And now I... It's not gonna be 1 k because people staking 5,000 kaito. Get... Getting one $1 is... No. That's not... People staking 5,000 kaito, that's about $10. You're not getting 1 k airdrop, but you're gonna get a lot more than that. So what I'm saying is the the the game has changed so much, and I'm just happy we're here. We we got... Got any early on wall chain. Cookie Cookie Dow is another one. But there's gonna be more, man. I think there's gonna be more social fight projects coming out soon, but you just gotta get there on time, man. That's that's the key to this. If you get there when the noise is loud, you're not gonna get get entry to the rewards, man. That's what I think.
[0:25:16] Voice E: Good take.
[0:25:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Good take. Yeah. You know, it's... I just think it's funny, as somebody that does not concentrate on specifically, talking about projects outside of, you know, the stuff that I'm directly involved in. I think it's it's interesting that even I have a presence on these leaderboards. Right? Like... And I've even gotten some airdrops. Now, obviously, that's because I'm a staker on Kaido, that I've been able to participate in that portion of it. But even having, you know, some sort of social metrics that are picking up for these various platforms, whether it's CookieDAO or or, Wallchain or any of the rest. I I find it's interesting because, you know, I don't I don't consider myself a very large account or influential account. I literally just talk about Bitcoin 99.9% of the time when I'm not reposting a space that Dave Cool, and Cool are in or, you know, something that I'm doing with, with G Media, or or that they're doing over there, at least lately. It's mainly supporting the shows that I go to and then talking about Bitcoin. And that is, I think it's interesting that even that is being picked up, but then I see a lot of stuff that's not... What's up, Kama?
[0:26:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hey, Landy. I think you would like this, actually. I know you're not about the whole, like, gapping and, you know, writing on your timeline and doing all of those stuff, which I totally respect besides charts. You know what Pendle is. Right? Like, the y t p t stuff?
[0:26:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yep.
[0:26:57] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yep. So you could do a y t... You could... Like, so there's a contract for s kydou y t that ends at the end of July. And I made a post about this, like... And there's a Weston who's in the the listener. He and I were just chatting. We're like, let's just try this out. Like, we're... We both spent about, like, $750 to basically get the y t s kaido, and that gave us about 5,000 s kaido. So our theory is is that for the month of June and July, we're gonna hope that there's gonna be a ton of airdrops. Because on top of getting the the APY or APR or whatever, like, I think it's, like, eight to 12%, which is not that much in the grand scheme of thing over two months. But the more important thing is you're actually eligible for all the Kaido airdrops. And usually, they said, like, 5,000 is a good sweet spot in terms of, like... If there are some airdrops that are very, like, tiered where they say you have to have a minimum of this. So he and I, we spent $7.50. We're gambling a little bit that we're we're that $7.50 is gonna be gone. Right? But we're hoping that any airdrop that comes in is gonna make up for that and some. So we'll see how that goes. It's June 3. We got a month and another thirty something days left. So, yeah, that's... It's a fun one if you're interested in trying that out.
[0:28:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Can you post that up?
[0:28:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Let me look for it. Yeah. I'll I'll I'll find it. I don't know. I post so much that I don't even know where my stuff is anymore.
[0:28:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Coma, Thoma, when you say something's under your timeline, I immediately go to your page, and I look and I go, oh my god. How will I ever find this?
[0:28:35] Kkoma @itskkoma: I text my stats. I post 13 posts a day. I don't... I have no idea how I do this, but... Yeah. Anyways, yeah, I'll
[0:28:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: find it. That's it? That's it? 13 or 13 threads. Because, brother, I I tried to search for something I saw come up, and I was like, oh, I was like, you know what? What's really cool is you posted something, and I was like, that seems really cool. Let me go check on it. But it missed me in the for you. Right? I I accidentally refreshed or something, so I went to your page to find it. Bro, I was I was I was... I felt like I was, I was looking for lost treasure. I had no idea where to even start. I'm read... Now I'm reading through all your threads, and I'm like, I I don't know what this... That that... I don't... That's kinda sounds like it might have been it. And then I'm looking around. I had no idea. So
[0:29:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: I found it.
[0:29:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's what I want.
[0:29:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: I found it. Found it. It was four days ago, but I had to
[0:29:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: There is. I could...
[0:29:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: There was no way I could scroll and find it, unfortunately, so I just did a global search. You
[0:29:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: know, that's what we need. We need AI for searching people's timelines at this point. Somebody come... Go and create that for me so that I can just easily pick out the thing that I might have missed. Alright. Perfect.
[0:29:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: Perfect. Behind this is that the... Like, I used the Kuma as an example. The person who... If you were... If you actually staked or if you bought the YT SKIDO token, you pretty much got your money back, like, 80 to a 100% depending on when you sold your token.
[0:30:04] Voice E: Yeah. I think I think that that... That's that's that's one thing I think people, they fear. They fear of putting their money to work because I think people... Because if you buy NFTs that you stake, you're going to get some money back. You might get it this... The day the day you stake, but you're gonna get your money back eventually. I don't know how long, but because I I mean, it's been... Kaito's been around for, what, five... Four months now. And, I mean, I've got my money back on NFT. I've got my my money back on the staking, and so... But I think that's that's the key, though. People fear they don't wanna take action, and, you know, you guys have to push your money to work, man. If you if you have it, you know, if it's available, I think you should. It might it might be a good option because, it's... I don't I don't see... I I, you know, I don't like the fact that Kaito is dominating this much because whenever you have a monopoly or something, they... The company or the project, they tend to feel like they they they can't they can't do no wrong. They don't listen to the community anymore. This... You know? And I think the same thing happens to ETH, but competition is good, man. You know, you see ETH now. ETH ETH Foundation, they fired a bunch of people. They're trying to rebrand. They do all these things now. And... Because they've seen competitions coming, man. So we need some other projects to push Kaito to be better. That's what I think.
[0:31:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. A good point. And I think, I'll be honest with you. I just see more and more of these platforms cropping up, right, and chasing just like the MemeCoin meta and how it just kept accelerating. You know, I I said this a little bit the other day. I see this kind of, SocialFi stuff, like, hitting hitting its stride and then really accelerating towards burnout. And it's really gonna be which of these is going to be the king at the end of the day, right, when when all the dust settles. And I think it's an interesting race, and competition is good. Right?
[0:32:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: Are you hinting about randy.fun coming out soon? That's what was gonna ask about the fun fun stuff. Since you mentioned memes.
[0:32:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Memes. Listen. Memes, I I think if Bitcoin dominance stays this high, it's gonna be a very short stint for a lot of memes and markets. And, actually, I'll I'll transition to this real quick. Something that I think a lot of people... We didn't really talk about. We've been talking about a lot of this stuff lately. But seeing as Dave is is self muting over there, And I guess we can get to, you know, the Telegram stuff in a little bit here as it is interesting. That's for sure. But markets are something that I think everybody should be paying attention to. Probably seeing across your timeline, the narrative of the bearish divergence on the weekly, and Bitcoin's doing the same thing as it did in 2021. Right? Like, all that kind of stuff. And, something that that you do wanna watch out for this month with all of the rest of the exciting stuff that's going on that I think is really interesting and will not go away even in the bearish periods is the potential for things to turn bearish. And I would say on a weekly, all that bearish divergence, I wouldn't be calling this market over, by the way. It's still an uptrend on the monthly. But if we do start seeing by the end of this week or next week, closes below $1.00 $3,100 on Bitcoin, expect some downside in just about everything that that... That's in your portfolio if if Bitcoin makes that move. That would be a significant move. And then we have to watch for higher low structures. It's the statistical most likely outcome after a trend break. We did get a lot of trend breaks on altcoins too, And this really does play into all of this. Right? Because you you see the way that, you know, Bitcoin was headed down during that loud launch. I think if Bitcoin was headed up and the rest of the market was headed up, that we... And we didn't get, some of the turbulence around that Loud launch, it probably would have lasted longer. Right? Maybe even kept up a little bit more mind share, but people see the, fear that's on the timeline for what's going on, and immediately, they're... They wanna take profits, get out, sit on the sidelines, and wait. So just be prepared in the market side of things because, yeah, there's a lot of people you could tell did not pay themselves on the way up and are now looking to try and position to pay themselves. So things could go either way, but watch it towards the end of this week and next week, especially one zero three one on Bitcoin. That's gonna determine a lot of things. If we see it fall and all hold up and dominance come down, that's what, that's what a lot of people are are also speculating on is the potential alt season for that. But you gotta wait and see. It's either gonna be continuation or highs put in, and then watch dominance carefully if things do fall. ETH holds up, probably starting to look at, at a stronger case for an actual alt season or mini alt season at the very least. But, yeah, let's, move around the horn here. Someone's got their hand up. I'm just gonna call you CryptoJudge. Yeah. CryptoJudge. What's up?
[0:35:22] Voice F: Yeah. Jim, Jim. What's up, man?
[0:35:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Good. What's going on?
[0:35:30] Voice F: I mean, I'm good. Good. I joined the space from Cool Crypto. I got the notification that he's on the space, and I hope he's been listening, and a lot have been said. I just wanna shipping a little alpha I got. I don't know. I I I overheard him speaking of Kaito, and there's a lot going on Kaito today. There's a new project that launched on Kaito post TGE projects, and it's not a new project. It's a project that I've been here for more than three years right now. And today, everybody on the city
[0:36:17] Voice F: and people who follow me talking about the projects. So I I decided to come and share because they are sharing about 20... Okay. About $7,078,000 dollars for three months. So I... They they split it for... Between 6,000 every month for three months, and he's on title. Everybody that talks about them will get rewarded. I don't know how they are going to split the reward, maybe top 100 or whatever, but between 6,000, 25,000 worth of INGA. The project name is Injectiva, and I know most people here might know the projects. Most people will not or might not know the the project as well. So that was the time I I shared it to him, but I think he's not here anymore. So he's new on the Kaito. He's a free money. If you want to earn, You can just go, you know, making some research about the project, sharing some random insights about them, and see if you can rank the leaderboard. So, following up to that, there are some pre TGE and post TGE there on the, title that you can actually check. The ones people are not are not talking about too much, focus on them and, be consistent on them because, this Kaito, machine or this Kaito narrative has given a lot of people opportunity to aim is is more like monetizing your tweets or your alpha that you're putting out on the city. So there's a lot of projects there to actually look out to. And, most of these, projects that we are yapping about right now, in two weeks, three weeks, going to one month now, we are going to see the inflow of another NFT wave that will cycle the the crypto environment. And, I will I will urge you guys to stay positive. And, before I end up, what should I expect to CoolCrypto? I followed him since the day of GM RX, though my main account was suspended from, Twitter. And, I don't know, but I... I'm just giving myself an opportunity to engage back and, you know, be followed back by everyone or by anybody that, maybe wants to. I I will do that to follow back because following people gives me the opportunity to get alpha from people, and then following me also, we give them a opportunity to hear what is coming from my end. So thank you guys, for giving me this opportunity to come up here and express myself. Thank you very much.
[0:39:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: No worries, Will. Yeah. Injective's been around for a long time. I think we're gonna see more of this, more projects that are very well established, whether it's chains, platforms. We're gonna see more and more of them continue to go and move over to some of these SocialFi platforms to gather mind share. It makes sense. It it it makes sense as long as they're incentivizing it, in the right way and not, not picking and choosing winners because we do know that this is all on the project at the end of the day. They're kind of curating that stuff. We talked about that a little bit last week. So, you know, there's there's always opportunity, and there's opportunity in these markets that present itself on the upside and downside. So, yeah, just stay locked in.
[0:40:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: Someone someone in the comments on the Kaido post, was like, Kaido started to become basically dead projects come back to life. Even though it's technically dead, why? By any means, but I
[0:40:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: just Hold on, comma, comma, hold on one. Would... Are you near some sort of electronics? Because we're getting, like, television screen interference or something that's coming through. I've never heard that before. I've never... Bro.
[0:40:45] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I
[0:40:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: That is the wildest thing.
[0:40:47] Kkoma @itskkoma: One of my AirPods. That's why. So it might have be because of that. Yeah.
[0:40:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's wild. I still I gotta mute you, brother. I gotta mute you.
[0:40:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fuck that shit. Kick his ass fucking down. What what is this fucking coma? What do you think this is over here? This fucking crazy ass. What the fuck is that? Nuts.
[0:41:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bro. It's like an old school TV set.
[0:41:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Put this motherfucker on time now. What is he, crazy? We have listeners that fucking have earbuds in. Like, what is he? Nuts? Back to your regularly scheduled program. Please continue
[0:41:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: this. I couldn't. Dave got you before I did. But... Yeah. Yeah. That's about it. I mean, that's, that's a pretty good overview of kind of what's been going on with the... With all of the Infophy stuff. Obviously, big, big news today. I I think probably the biggest news today, outside of politics and stuff like that was the Telegram raise. They have raised 1... Is it 1,700,000,000? I know that that Dave had it up there, earlier, but this is interesting. It was a bond raise, if I'm not mistaken, and this is pre IPO. Right? I mean, this is this is all on a path in in my personal opinion to IPO if, if it isn't officially announced. I thought it was though, or maybe it was just speculation surrounding it. But there... The interesting part about their bond sale is that that it's offering a 9% yield. And, I I think that Dave's, you know, kinda speculated, what does this mean for the for the TON token? So I... I'll toss it around the stage here. What do you guys think?
[0:42:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Cool. We we know we've lost Koba. We don't know what's gonna happen. Sonny's like, ton, telegram. What is this stuff?
[0:42:53] Sunny D @dylN0chill: That's alright. I'm here I'm here to listen.
[0:42:55] Voice F: Yeah. I've got some features from the iPhone on Twitter. So if you have my iPhone, have some kind of features on that.
[0:43:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I don't really know what you said there, but what I will say is this is gonna be something to watch. There's speculation, obviously, that some of the biggest and and, obviously, most well loved in all of, crypto, BlackRock and Citadel are... You know, there's speculation that they're they're gonna be investing. A 9% return on on a on a bond offering is pretty, big. And 1.5 bill is pretty damn big. So this could be very significant, not just for Telegram, but for the TON ecosystem. There's a lot of tech. I'm sure that many of you, have used Telegram quite often, especially if you're into any kind of any kind of these networks. I mean, a lot of the the organization is happening on Telegram still, to this day. A lot of groups are still built on Telegram. A lot of, bot services are run from Telegram. That's a very popular thing there. So what does this mean for them? And the TON ecosystem, I imagine this is gonna be a fairly big boost, especially on the speculative side for the token itself. So we'll see kinda what this results in over time. I'm assuming, obviously, that this is part of a wider IPO offering, so we'll have to see. Oh, Dave actually posted about it in here. Yeah. So purpose of the funds. Okay. So, yeah, 1,700,000,000, through a convertible bond offering that, I'll add is offering the 9%. That's, the main thing that I'm seeing in terminals right now. Out of the total raise, 955,000,000 will be used to repay existing debt from the 2021 bond issuance. Okay. I'll route Peter to pay Paul. Issuing and maturing in 2026. The remaining 745,000,000 is earmarked for operational cross and growth initiatives. And that's just kind of the the short of the very long of it. And I would say, yeah, in in my personal opinion, kinda reading through some of the initial news, and thank you for that, Dave, it really does seem as though... Obviously, paying off some of the some of the debt that's gonna mature, but getting another 745,000,000 is a big deal. I imagine that this goes to flushing out the ecosystem and probably does have a positive, impact on the token as well. And, if nothing else, for speculation, and kinda see where that that heads in the future, we're we're gonna probably be hearing a lot more about this. And then there is, of course, an additional amendment down here is the potential XAI partnership. Telegram's reportedly in discussions with Elon Musk's XAI, to integrate the Grock model. That is kinda massive. Now I didn't see that anywhere else, but, apparently, that's, that's coming from, TradingView. So, nothing concrete on that just yet, but that would be crazy. I don't know about you guys, but there's an awful lot of AI over the years that's been built inside of the TON ecosystem. So that would be that'd be an interesting dynamic to see. Any thoughts?
[0:46:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: So so it already exists, FYI. So it... Grock is already built into Telegram. So as I'm reading this story, yeah, obviously, like, it's going to pay off existing debt, but, like, who doesn't fucking do... Like, what company doesn't do that? Right? Like, raise more? Because especially now, Telegram is now actually generating money, like, money. Right? Like, they have paid subscribers. Tele rolled out Telegram premium. So there was a lot looking into this, and they are making a big, big fucking push with the Tone blockchain. It says... Obviously, like, Xi partnership, that's actually... I think that's an older story because that that genuine... That exists right now. You can access Grok in Telegram today.
[0:47:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: I know I
[0:47:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: know you can, but I thought it was an unofficial way. It's actually official. Like, integration? They didn't just do the API keys and stuff?
[0:47:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I remember I remember reading it off off of of Elon's page. Yeah.
[0:47:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit. That's wild. I Yeah. Thought that missed me, and I'm here every day.
[0:47:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think they're making a massive push because they're also targeting now... Because there was some issue. I was talking to a lot of different wallet providers, like, for these Telegram mini dApps. And, like, they adjusted their their rule... Like, almost like the rules of of the type of wallet you... That you can have in terms of, like, it being, like, tone blockchain first for all of the Telegram mini dApps, which is interesting. I don't know the full scope behind it, but I know that there is definitely something brewing on that side, and they're gonna make a big, big push. But, also, let let it not fall on deaf ears that these motherfuckers raised 1,700,000,000, like, with this fucking sneeze. You know what I mean? Like, what they have is massively, massively valuable. They have 950,000,000 active monthly monthly active users, and that's a real fucking... That's a real number. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, like, this is... I don't know. This to me is, like, really show... I don't know what the hell is going on with Pavel and France and all this shit. I I genuine... We should probably, like, do a little doodle on that. But from a tone blockchain perspective, I think it's gotten hammered down. Where is it now? The two two fifty, three dollar level or something? I don't know.
[0:48:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's it's up against resistance, but that's like everything else. Right? Like, this could be something that could be a catalyst that breaks it out though because of the speculation. And I was just looking through because I could've swore that Elon said no deal was signed, and I found that maybe he followed it up later. He he tweeted on the May 28 that no deal had been signed. And I I wasn't sure if... Because I know that they had incorporated the the, Grok a p... In it, and we're likely paying for it so that they can Oh. Facilitate that. It was. Okay. But I don't know. I haven't I haven't followed up since then. So I just thought that it was odd, that that, one, it seems like it'd be a natural progression. I think that Grock... He wants... Elon wants to get Grock out there, so there could have been a deal signed between then and then. But Elon posts too many memes for me to even find it. That's why we need an AI that helps me search timelines because holy crap. The AIs in... Grok has a very tough time even going through some of this. We need a specific AI where I go, this user find this information for me. And even Grok is like, wait. What? And this goes for all of the AI platforms, by the way.
[0:49:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. Yeah. It's... Yeah. There's there's so many, but... And listen. I I don't think, like... Look. The Telegram news, I think, is is definitely big news, but I think these guys were trying to tee up, Landy. I don't know if you heard them before, but they were talking about the... About PumpFund launching an actual... Like, their own native token. So that news came out today where they're preparing to launch their own native token. They're gonna raise a fucking billion. I'm so... This this this story has me so confused because I don't... Confused because I don't know how to feel about... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
[0:50:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: So is is it is it a a token sale, or they're raising money? I'm gonna be confused.
[0:50:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So here, I'll read it off to PumpFund, Solana based MemeCoin Launchpad is preparing to launch its own native token aiming to raise 1,000,000,000 at a $4,000,000,000 fully diluted valuation. Honestly, they probably meet that criteria easy. The sale will target both public and private investors and is expected to occur within the next two weeks, although specific details about the launch mechanism and tokenomics have not been disclosed. We'll just put that out on the last day. Since its inception, listen to the numbers. In early twenty twenty four, this is literally just a year ago, year and a half ago. PumpFund has facilitated the creation of nearly 11,000,000 tokens. They've generated over 700,000,000 in cumulative revenue. The platform success has been attributed with user friendly interface, allowing anyone to create and trade tokens instantly. In response to the growing competition, PumpFund has made strategic updates. They launched their own AMM, as we know, on Radium. The plat... Or excuse me. Yeah. Ending the the relationship they had with Radium, and the platform introduced a mobile app and reinstated its live streaming feature. Yay. It says while the token launch is poised to solidify pump on position in the crypto market, investors should be aware of the platform's history of high risk spec tokens and ongoing legal challenges. Class action lawsuits still exist, yada yada. As the launch approaches, crypto community is closely monitoring for official announcements. So they're saying public and private cool. It says... But but it says clearly here, it's preparing to launch a native token. I don't know. I... How... Like, why would I buy this? Like, I I I mean, yeah, they're generating money, but that money doesn't go back to any of the token holders. And I know that that's across the board for crypto, but what's what's PumpFund gonna do? I guess it's my question. But... Yeah. Como, if you wanna chime in, go for
[0:52:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: it, bro. And please don't please don't
[0:52:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: go to shooting people's ears, you fucker.
[0:52:13] Kkoma @itskkoma: How's it now?
[0:52:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Much better.
[0:52:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: Good. Because I'm on my computer mic. No. I just wanted to actually
[0:52:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sounds good.
[0:52:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: That was good. I just wanted to test... Just wanted to make sure this was sound... Sounding fine. That's why I rose my hand. But, yeah, I I I don't know. I really don't... If PumpFun did this when there was literally no competition, then I think this was gonna be a very bullish news. But I I just feel like there's just so many bear... Like, variations of PumpFund these days. Like, first, was boop, and then there was believe. And it's a very competitive space is my point. And I know that pump fund is, like, number one right now still, but I just don't see a lot of appeal. And everything I look at on the timeline, it says, like, the the number of transactions have gone down, number of volumes have gone down. So I I don't know if this is just, like, their, like, last cash grab to try to get something. But, personally, I'm just... I just feel pretty neutral or if not negative about it.
[0:53:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, I'm just thinking, like, okay. They're gonna launch their own token. They're gonna hoover up all the volume from every single new pair that's launched on their platform into their token for a good couple of weeks. And then, you know, via their their, their pools, you know, just print off of it. Like, they're just gonna absolutely print. This this is... This has nothing to do with those that get involved. I'm just talking about them. They're gonna absolutely print off of it because they have mindshare when it comes to shitcoins. Like, they they are the shitcoin ticker launcher galore. They have that mindshare. People will chase because of the opportunity. If you thought that the Lightio took over mindshare, wait for PumpFund to, actually gear up to get ready to launch this thing. And then, you know, get ready for the massive wick and and downside. You know, it's... That's a that's a massive raise, a massive fully diluted value... Valuation, and I think that they absolutely can do it. And I think that they're absolutely going to make oodles of cash. And they will absolutely not be keeping that on Solana. They will be off ramping that directly from Solana. That's that's my my take on it. I'm sure that we're gonna be talking about this a lot more in the lead up to it, but that is kinda crazy. I mean, I... I'm not a I'm not a fan of kind of... I'm not a fan of those particular platforms and the way that they're constructed for their incentivization structure, And they haven't done much to improve it. There's other platforms that have tried to iterate and improve on that, and they flash, and then they're gone. Pump funds probably not gonna go anywhere. It's kind of an institution at this point no matter how much money they offer up out of there. So, yeah, I I guess there's gonna be money to be made, right, in all the different pools and if you're early enough to to to get in there rip clips.
[0:55:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Cool. What do you think? No. He's... Now that you know
[0:55:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I... No. I'm here. I'm here. I I mean, I don't I don't I don't know too much about this. I'm not too much. I don't know. I wish they had launched when the hype was massive, man. Right now, they they... You are right. There are... There is a lot of competition right now. At the same time, I think I think they they waited too late, man. It's so strange. Like, they were they were dominating. This is when when Solana was, like... Did the recent autumn high recently, like, a couple months ago. They should've lost lost this then because they had a... One of, like, two twenty or two ten, whatever it was. And they'll... This is where it doesn't mean because they're popping off. Right? If they had launched then, they probably done done a lot better. I mean, that timing timing is off, man. It's way off. I mean,
[0:56:22] Voice E: I'm not saying we'll
[0:56:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: do well. Right? I'm just... And, of course, I I... Because I don't really know either it's... Are they gonna do a head drop for holders or people that use the platform? Are they gonna... Is it... They said private public sale. It's just not too much information right now. I'm like, so you you you can do a direct job.
[0:56:40] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. No way. This is like... I I... Did you see that Clemens video where he was like, do you know how much money I lost on your freaking platform and you're not even gonna give me an airdrop? Like, I mean, obviously, he's just saying it, but it's it's kinda funny. It's like, imagine how many people are gonna wanna airdrop for, all the soul they've lost in the trenches to Frank D.
[0:57:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That... Look. I mean, to Frank. It's just like he's the face of all of it now. But... Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate that he's the face of all of it even though, you know, I don't think it's as deserved. He definitely is an extractor, but he also got wrecked himself quite often. Look. The the biggest thing about it is, like, that's that's gonna be the prevailing narrative is AirDrop, AirDrop, AirDrop. And I don't think you get to a $4,000,000,000 valuation via airdrop because those who are are injecting capital into it to get it rolling, they need to eat. And you're not gonna eat off of, off of, supply dilution. So, you know, we don't know, I guess, anything about the tokenomics or anything like that. As that stuff gets revealed, you know, we can speculate more on maybe what's going on there. I just look at it as a... I I just, you know, they know all the tricks of the trade. They've, they've been around for a while. They've extracted a ton of money out of the ecosystem over there. It it just seems like, especially if the market does, like, correct really hard and then they decide to launch, that's where that's where you gotta look and go, alright. Well, getting getting bent over again, I guess, everybody. Have fun. Bend over. Open up.
[0:58:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: It'd be hilarious. They're like, there will be an airdrop, but it's based on the number of trades or volume that you do. Everyone's gonna try to generate volume and then end up getting wrecked.
[0:58:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Could you imagine they could incentivize it in, like, wild crazy ways like that that would just be really unhealthy for the ecosystem, but absolutely would send everything into a Friendly. That would be wild.
[0:58:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: People are doing it for free. So now that you... If you say, you know, airdrops,
[0:59:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I don't know. I I just hope people stay safe, yeah, one way or the other.
[0:59:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: You want my take? Here's my take.
[0:59:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: Very much so. I'm very curious what you think, Dave.
[0:59:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: These motherfuckers have done nothing but take take take take take. What makes you fucking think that all of a sudden now they're gonna get a hit of conscience and say, I wanna give, give, give. They're launching the token because they're not making as much money as before. And fucking... They gotta keep... Forget keep up with the Joneses. They... At this point, they are the Joneses. Right? Like, they're fucking making so... They're like, we gotta continue this lifestyle. I like when we were getting a 100,000,000 into the bank every single month. This was nice. Why can't we keep doing that? How do we keep doing that? Hey. Launch a token with a $4,000,000,000 valuation? Here's my take. You fucking buy this shit, you're a fucking idiot. That's in my opinion. I don't care if it runs up 300, 500% on the first day. You're a fucking moron. That's my opinion. When people show you who they are, right, like, very clearly, on chain extraction, they swapped for 50,000 soul sent to sent to sent to Kraken. 75,000 soul sent to Kraken. Like, every month religiously. Not one month did they leave any fucking soul in there. None. Until the very end when they said, you know what?
[1:00:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: We'll put 15,000 soul into a pool.
[1:00:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Get the fuck out of here. It's like enough. I'm sorry. Fuck them. That's how I...
[1:00:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's what I
[1:00:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: said about it. But, Dave, but, Dave, if we snipe the contract early enough, we can all make money. Right? We're all gonna eat.
[1:00:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: Right? Yeah. I gotta call out Landy on this one. He was he was like... I was like, damn. Landy, please, in the back channel, was like, tell me how to, like, how do how do I do this? Like, how do I prepare for Loud? And then there was, like, no real response. And I was like, okay. Cool. And then when the Loud release, he's like, oh, I sniped it. And I was like, what the fuck?
[1:00:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: Like, how do you not tell anyone how to do this? You asked
[1:00:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: me about liquidity pools. You didn't ask me
[1:01:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: about You
[1:01:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: didn't answer that.
[1:01:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's true.
[1:01:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Didn't even answer that, though. So why would I ask about the other stuff? You
[1:01:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: didn't d... I would have DM'd you. I... I'm sorry.
[1:01:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: Okay. Next I'll
[1:01:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: be corporate. No.
[1:01:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm a fucking... You didn't answer about the liquidity pools. You didn't answer about the liquidity pools.
[1:01:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: You should've.
[1:01:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: I never I never got into one. I I I did not... I avoided that, like, the plague because I saw what was going on. I was like, if I was going to get into and start my own liquidity pool, I would've let you know. There... But as soon as it launched, there was no there was no area until it started to settle down, but it's... It ended up breaking down to to provide concentrated liquidity to actually get a capturing of those fees because we had $7,000,000 in volume come in. And then when it started to consolidate, you got 550 k all going to the main pool. If you're trying to eat off that, you're not gonna get any fees. You need consistent volume.
[1:01:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: But there was no contract even generated at that point. How do we know what was what? There was so many... And and for the record, like, even when the the contract address was dropped after the first day of trading, you still went to deck screen and typed in loud, and you... Genuinely couldn't find the actual fucking... Like, the main pool. Like, the first, like, five, six, seven of them were all bull... It was, like, $290,000,000 valuation with $17,000 in the pool. I'm like, how does this happen? I... Like, we need a we need a session on, like, really understanding, like, LPing because I understand the basics, concentrate liquidity pool. But when it comes to this type of shit, how do how do these pools get manipulated is, I think, something that we really need to talk about at
[1:02:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: some point. I agree. I agree. Because Sure.
[1:02:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean Yeah. I I can tell you this. As soon as the meteor pool went up, it was immediately snipeable. And you could tell by the by the funds that went up, they didn't... You could tell because they didn't use the funds that were sent to those wallets. And that was an immediate red flag. So where did those funds come from? Right? That was the immediate red flag for me. It was like, oh, this is gonna shoot up, come right back down, come back again later. Because I was sniping every loud contract under the sun because it didn't really matter to me. I was just taking a shot on it. And I happened to I happened to look after they posted it in their profile that I had sniped the right contract, and it was right when their pool launched. So there's various tools that you can use in the Solana ecosystem that specifically do very well. I know that a lot of people really like g m g n. I have a custom set that's... That that is an evolution of other Telegram based bots that a friend of mine is allowing me to use that he developed that allows you to search on chain cross chain. So if there's other derivatives and stuff like that for a contract that come out that they try to pump on another chain, that kind of stuff, or just to go in and look at other chains to either LP, throw volume on, or snipe a contract. I... What I will tell you is if you don't have experience doing that, don't do it. Don't even touch it.
[1:04:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is...
[1:04:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because you will... You can make you can make horrible mistakes, and you can lose everything because you're giving your money to a bot. So that is... It's it's one of those things, Landy,
[1:04:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: where it's like, if you don't try it, you'll never do it. So I I think we need to... And we need to at least fail
[1:04:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Landy, stop gatekeeping the fucking LP ing from us, bro. I see what you're doing. You're trying to keep it as a way of playing in your little boys club.
[1:04:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: I see this.
[1:04:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's sniping, and I will I will absolutely get my... Not just me. You don't wanna hear it just from me because there's plenty of ways. The the easiest way to LP is to go and do it with with Uniswap. Concentrated LP on stable pairs there is is beautiful cross network because you can just print, and and providing liquidity to coins over there.
[1:04:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Uniswap, you can provide You can't provide liquidity for... On Solana tokens now. Can you? Wait. You can? Oh, no.
[1:04:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. No. No. I'm talking about Uniswap if you're just gonna LP. But if you wanna actually get into the LP game and learn it, when you go to Solana, each and every, each and every pool provider, like, constructs their pool differently, which is why, you know, so many gravitated towards Meteora because of the ease of of use and design from the project side and also for new people to come in in single sided LP or or go in fifty fifty just straight up LP and and provide concentrated liquidity. And then there's the different pool types. Right? And that all falls under the pool types and how many steps. And then there's all this kind of stuff that you don't have to deal with in in... I mean, you do, but it's a lot easier to deal with in the Ethereum ecosystem on Uniswap, for instance. If you really wanna learn how to LP, you learn over there, and then you take the concepts you learn there. And then you can go to any platform and say, how are they constructing the pools for me to LP? Because it's not like on stacks where you just go and contribute in your LP for the whole thing. You get LP tokens and all that stuff. It's... It works very differently. So I think we we probably should set something up and get some other people up here that also have experience with it. I'd be more than happy to invite some of my friends up that I know do this.
[1:06:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: I would love that be... At least for me, I would love that because I actually tried LPing the LOUD token stuff. I ended up losing money, not too much, but I think it was also because I wasn't really thinking about the loud price when I when I decided to start LPing. So the one thing that you didn't mention, Mandy, was about, like, nor... Like, you know, normalizing the price and whatever. I I I guess I learned this today. Right? So good good for me. But...
[1:06:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Impermanent loss.
[1:06:37] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. The IP loss is pretty bad. Yeah. It was pretty bad at that point. But... Yeah. No. It was still good for
[1:06:43] Voice E: me to
[1:06:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: try it out, which I thought was worth it. I I think I did the DLMM one on Meteora. So at that time, the APY was, like, at, like, 35 to 40%. I thought it will be a lot higher in terms of just the sheer... I thought there would be a lot more volume, like, similar to, like, potentially... I mean, it can't be as big as Trump or whatever, but you know what I mean. Thought I thought there would be a lot more noise with it, but it it was actually not
[1:07:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: as Yeah.
[1:07:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: Not as
[1:07:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: active as
[1:07:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: it is. Yeah.
[1:07:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's why I voted
[1:07:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: as... Yeah. Yeah. Cool. No. No. It it was it was good. You need LP. I'll just check right now. It's down on over 60% right now. They love talking. It is... It's it's so fascinating. People... So if you didn't sell your AirDrop, your money's now... Your three k, your... Oh, I'm sorry. Your $3,500 is now worth $600. $600. That... That's all you have left. And there's still more down trend to go. So I don't know how low this thing goes, but I cannot feel bad for anyone to help this shit, man. But I'm I'm just... I'm I'm mind blown, though, honestly, because I think they fumbled the bag without... I really do believe so because, a token that grabs 70 something percent my share more than Bitcoin, ETH, and Solana combined was only... And they had... They sent over 100,000,000 impressions during that period, and only was it was it gathered 9,000 orders and having a token go down 90% in two days makes no sense. I mean, somebody made a mistake with this thing. Of course, the same with experiments. Right? Experiments, but I get the lesson here is, sell something. When... Whenever you get a 100 x Yep. Sell something.
[1:08:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: For real.
[1:08:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're not selling a 100 x, then you are not paying the fuck attention in these spaces. I'm sorry. A 100 x in two days? I mean, what in the hell are we doing out here if we're not taking a 100 x in two... But what if it goes to this? Oh my god. But what if if ifs and buts were candy and nuts? That's what that's what one of my friend's mother used to tell me. I'm like, but what
[1:08:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: if it... What if I but what
[1:08:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: if you... This would happen. She's like, yeah. If some butts were candy and nuts, get the fuck out of my house. And I'm like, okay. See you. Like...
[1:09:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: You know,
[1:09:05] Voice E: bro, bro.
[1:09:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: But, Dave, I I I didn't want to sell at the beginning. Right? It was it was when I saw I saw the tweet from from the guys from. When when they they some... This kinda... They they distant themselves from the projects. That's when I knew that, yes, time to sell it. Immediately, I saw that. I just basically... I sold I sold 80%. I have 20%, but my my 20% is probably 0% very soon, but it's all good, though.
[1:09:35] Kkoma @itskkoma: No worries. At least that's
[1:09:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: a good shot. I mean, not dead yet. It could still go up maybe in the future. I don't know, but at least, I sold something because, man, can you imagine, you know, getting gains of presale? When you thought... $34, man, $30, it goes to 3,400. And you say, oh, bro. I'm waiting for another another 30 x. You wait two days. Those two days, your $3,400 is now $600. This is how insane this this this this this, crypto industry is, man. It's just crazy, man.
[1:10:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which is still a 20 x on your money at the end of the day. Let's keep things real. It's still 20 x.
[1:10:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: Only 20 x.
[1:10:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Only 20 where it was. Fuck.
[1:10:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Listen. It's called opportunity cost. If you didn't sell the highs, you're selling the lows. You still make some money. Everybody walks away somewhat happy except those who bought it at, like, 20 mil market cap. Right? So, I mean, they provided the exit liquidity. Everybody washes their hands and walks away. When it pumps again, everyone else will exit. That's really what it comes down to. And then what does it have on its side for, you know, actually grabbing that attention again? That's really what it comes down to. Can they grab the attention again? Are they gonna come up with something innovative? They did that, what, cult drop thing. Great. Fun. Yeah. That's... That didn't move the needle. That never does. Saying that that, hey. We're gonna launch this. We have this other thing that you could also go and sell to potentially make up for those of you that got rinsed. You know, that... It just doesn't make a lot of sense. These aren't... We're... This is already an ecosystem with very little retail capital inflow and even less even less capital inflow from the institutional side of things outside of the main chain coins. So it's literally all PVP in these streets, and this is just a good way of of those who have the the ability to hoover up that money for themselves and then create something new, run that again, and keep doing it over and over again until people in the space have no more money.
[1:11:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. At the end of the day is what it is. Fave... Hold on one sec. Had his hand up for, like...
[1:11:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, no. No. No. Yeah. No. No. No. So I'll I'll just go and say that. I'll go... I just... This one has raised the whole time. I didn't see that. Great.
[1:11:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh, good. Fave, what's up, man?
[1:12:04] Voice F: Yeah. Good evening.
[1:12:07] Voice G: I have got three stuffs to talk about, GMG and everybody. First is about
[1:12:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: But you say
[1:12:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: you had three... You have three things to talk about.
[1:12:14] Voice G: Yeah. It's about this Binance Alpha of '18 and the impacts on those of us grinding on on chain. I... How it's going to affect us? That's number one. Number two, about how many Kaito tokens do I have to buy or stick if I can qualify for the drops?
[1:12:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sounds like 5,000.
[1:12:36] Voice G: And then the third one is I've got some watching... It's watching invites for anybody that needs.
[1:12:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that. Yeah. Come bearing gifts, paying tribute. I like this man already. He's a good man. You know exactly how this works up here.
[1:12:50] Kkoma @itskkoma: It's not 5,000.
[1:12:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you,.
[1:12:52] Voice F: Like, I
[1:12:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: think that's that's just like a sweet spot for for certain airdrops, but any escratos will give
[1:12:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: you doing, coma? Why did I do this? Why do I have so much Did you heard
[1:13:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: me say... No. No. No. No. No. Landy, because you you probably heard me say that because, like, I saw the Kaito account post on an account saying, if you have 5,000 as a Kaito stake, you have nothing to worry about. Literally verbatim.
[1:13:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, well, I already had it before then.
[1:13:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: So Yeah. Yeah. You're good. You're good. Don't worry. I mean Okay. Yeah. I just don't want any...
[1:13:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I just
[1:13:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: don't want people to, like, you know, get a loan or something to get get to 5,000. Like, you'll still get something, but the s kite... At 5,000, you're guaranteed to get pretty much anything of the airdrops.
[1:13:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Listen. I'm now gonna be divorced because I sold my wife off to someone else in order to stake this Kaito. So they better drop something good.
[1:13:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Even Fateman like that one too. That was good. That was good.
[1:13:51] Voice G: Alright. Thank you.
[1:13:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. Drop... If you wanna if you wanna give out your your wall chain invites, just drop your... Drop a post on the comments, bro. And have people post under it if they need if they need an invite.
[1:14:07] Voice G: I have dropped something on the comment section already.
[1:14:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Cool.
[1:14:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, my man has eight of them.
[1:14:12] Kool @koolcryptovc: Alright. Let's go. If anybody needs wall chain invites, this is the new fucking... Look at this. Oh my god, guys. This is the new deal... This is the new dealer for
[1:14:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: the day. Alright? So y'all need to hit them up. Okay? If you need some, hey, man. You're gonna hook everybody up that reaches out. Right?
[1:14:28] Voice G: Yeah. Sure.
[1:14:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: My man. Love that. What was the first question you asked? I missed the first question you asked. What... About some of the Binance?
[1:14:34] Voice G: Binance offer.
[1:14:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. What's the alpha?
[1:14:38] Voice G: Like, this Binance offer of the team taking much of the tokens once they launch, leaving those those of us that are grinded at during the test time period with nothing... Little or nothing to write on about. Just like,.
[1:14:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, the... Oh, right. Right. Right. Where, like, if you... Yeah. I I know what you're saying. It's literally called Binance Alpha. Right? Is that is that what you're saying? I it. Okay. I think I missed it.
[1:15:02] Voice G: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
[1:15:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Yeah. I don't have a buy... I... Believe it not, I don't have a Binance account.
[1:15:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. No. No. Yeah. So that that Binance Alpha, man. It's it's basically... It's for certain it's it's for certain Binance users based on, I guess, the amount of volume you you trade. You do... You can't you can't get into that class of of users. And, those those people, they get access, to a large amount of the, you know, the new AirDrops that come out. Like, for example, lay lay... It's... You know, if if, they gave an allocation to Binance, but Binance takes the... A majority of the allocation and gives it to the people that that that are members of of of of the Binance Alpha. That's what he's saying. So, bro, I don't... I mean, you have to find all the ways, man. I mean, to to be honest with you, I don't even think finance projects are... The the only one, like, the the only one that's doing well recently is Sofone. That's the only one. And Sofone just launched. I know they gave they gave a a pause for Binance. They they launched. But I don't I don't think you should focus on Binance projects, in my opinion. Bro, there are 36 projects on Kaito and more coming. So I would recommend you...
[1:16:31] Voice E: And as a matter of
[1:16:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: fact, ever since Kaito launched four months ago, there hasn't been one airdrop that... That's... That has outperformed Kite for projects. So don't worry about or stress yourself over buying out alpha and all that drama. Bro, you need to find another way, man, to to to to join, you know, a a new way to make money. Don't... Because I think Binance to me has lost its power, man. In my opinion, I don't think... Because now you have been... You had Hyperliquid. Hyperliquid destroyed the whole token listing stuff. Hyperliquid came out and did one of the best, you know, airdrop you've ever seen in history, good history. I know people that got $2,300,000 from... I mean, I know people actually retired. They left crypto be... Because HyperLiquid. And in addition to... They're actually continually rewarding people. So people do... Don't... Projects don't need to list a Binance anymore. Binance has lost their power because, mean, the past year, almost 80 to 90% of all Binance launches are down 90, 80%. And that's the reason why I don't think you should stress yourself about trying to grind for, you know, protocols that list on Binance. I think you should focus on where majority of people are winning right now, which is virtuals, which is Kaito, hopefully, watching soon, Kokidow, hopefully soon, and probably other other avenues where you can make money. But I don't think you should worry about, you know, the the buying aspect. I don't think so.
[1:18:11] Voice F: Please, I want to know more about the blockchain, please.
[1:18:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's all about the...
[1:18:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: I don't...
[1:18:18] Voice F: Who who
[1:18:19] Voice E: just spoke, like, against him?
[1:18:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was, a crypto judge. But, essentially, Wallchain is is taking the same route, but it looks like a chain by chain route. So if you talk a lot about Solana, Socket, Wallchain, didn't they add something else? What else did they add?
[1:18:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Some of the... For instance, eight chain accounts only talk about specific eight chain projects, but they are high up on the leaderboard. They're not just talking about eight chain and and tagging the eight chain account or anything like that. So whatever they're doing over there, I think, is pretty interesting. And then, of course, there's the wall chain leaderboards and stuff like that. So, obviously, telling people about wall chain or giving out your invites and tagging it and talking about the quacks and so on and so forth is is likely gonna get you some, some mindshare on those leaderboards. But it it seems seems as though it has an x score, which is based on your cumulative interaction with, on your posts and your interaction with others on their posts, your... The quality of your following. And then there's the leaderboard section, which I'm not quite sure what's gonna come out of that side of things. We don't know yet. They're just building it out now.
[1:19:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I I could I could post this for you, but I made I made a tweet about this. Let me let me post for you guys real quick. So it's it's how to earn quest on on water. And the funny thing is I've been talking. They they just added me to some to some watching group. I think couple of KOL people. I don't I don't see myself as a KOL, man. I don't think so. I just... I'm just I'm just regular dude, man. Just wanna make some money, man. But that that word is weird to me. The KOL. KOL.
[1:20:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're not gonna have this discussion again.
[1:20:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I'm I'm just saying, man.
[1:20:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: We... Heal...... Opinion leader....
[1:20:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Identity. K
[1:20:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: o... Okay. Bro. Bro. Bro, all... Am I am... If I'm a KOL, we all KOLs. Then Dave's KOL.
[1:20:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: In fact.
[1:20:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: We got we got Medabees, coma, and we got... We'll talk to you, bro. Is it KOL? We're all KOLs in
[1:20:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: there, man.
[1:20:41] Kkoma @itskkoma: Landry, can I ask you a favor? Since you have a nice little white badge on you, Do do you think you could convince the stacks team in the future, whatever whatever forms from there, to do a wall chain leaderboard?
[1:20:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, that's something that I'd like to talk to them about to to have a stacks leaderboard because, yeah, we'd be killing it over there. Are you kidding me? But the fact of the matter is is what comes out the other side of it. Right? Because if you're gonna have a leaderboard for specific chains and it's not specific projects, is it... How are they doing this on the back end? You know, how how Kaito is doing the pre TGE, post TGE, and reward systems are project based. This is just chains, so we don't really know a lot about it. Maybe that would offer up a vector for somebody like Koma to say, like, hey. I've got this app that we're gonna be launching and doing at TGE. Let me go reference or pull the data from Wallchain or something for the top people there. Maybe that would be something. What do you think?
[1:21:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: I I guess... I know you... I I was just joking about the white badge part because, I guess, it's in reference to Hermetica. But I feel like chain wise, it's not a problem. Right? Because there's a... Like, even on Kaido, there's a bunch of l twos and even some l ones, pre t... Pre TGE that are on the leaderboard. Right? So we could technically do something similar. I just... Yeah. I I probably requires a little more discussion about the rewards and incentives.
[1:22:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's it's all about the rewards at the end of the day. I mean, we we can't rewind time to go back to the IPO or ICO days of of Blockstack. Right? So it's it's more about the projects that are on on stacks that might wanna utilize it. I've actually been thinking about this since since the... Since, like, looking through the Wallchain documentation, seeing how Kaido has built, seeing how Wallchain is building a little bit differently, seeing how CookieDAO is building a little bit different, like, all of these. I think that it's, it's a missed opportunity for for larger chains. Like, Stacks is a large chain. Like, people people might not... It might not have a lot of mindshare, but that... This is one of the reasons why it doesn't even though it's got a ton of capital locked in it. Right? Is get involved, and and it might have to be from a... You know, maybe from the community side reaching out to some of these platforms and saying like, hey. How do we get our our chain up there so that we can start seeing, like, who who the people are that talk about it? Right? And then have that essentially shake out into what we see now on these leaderboards. Because then there's ways in which projects can make use of that information and provide incentivization and also get mind share out there just in general, through these these platforms. I think that Kaido is is a little bit, you know, I think, I think Stacks might even be on there. But Kaido's a little bit, I don't know. I I find it hard to use, personally, with its pre TGE arena and Yapper leaderboard stuff. I think that it's not the most graceful way of organizing information. That's just me personally. You guys have a lot more experience with it, so you know the quirks. I think something like a wall chain where it's just like, hey. You have network. Here are the people who are talking about that network. That is just simple, and then that's more useful to somebody that would wanna build something in my personal opinion.
[1:24:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So, what's crazy was... Because know, I'm I'm obsessed with this stuff. Right? So so I was looking at the leaderboard for Wallchain, and I saw a lot of people that didn't seem to talk about Wallchain, they're, like, top 10 right now. The reason why they're heavily heavily Solana Nazis because of the spend for the past one, two, three years talking about Solana. Whenever they they... Solana made it on on to the the the wall chain leaderboard, they they... Those those people, they jumped on... They jumped a a lot higher. So that's another way to do it. So for example now, if Wallchain does ever, you know, immigrates, you know, Bitcoin or Stacks l two, Landy is gonna be, top five, man. Just like that because he spent all the... Even with Dave, same thing with Dave. They spent a lot a lot of their time talking about Bitcoin and Stacks. If Stacks gets gets on to Wall Street, you guys are gonna be top 10, top five. Easy. No. No. So I I think it's easy, sir. I I I... That's one critique I have with Stacks. I mean, we we... You know, as... I've talked about this with Dave already, like, what, like, eight months ago. Stacks are saying they they don't join the culture, man. Like, they don't they don't join the culture. They don't... Like, you... They they have to join a crypto culture. You need to be a part of it. Be a part of Kiteo. Be a part of Wallachia. Be a part of it. You have... We we just had a Injective join Kaito today. Pocadose joined Kaito, like, two, three months ago. We had Arbitrum joined joined, like, two weeks ago. All these projects, they get it now. They get... It's the vibe changes. Right? You cannot just sit your ecosystem and think, oh, because they're Bitcoin l two where it goes to do well. SaaS needs to needs to jump on this kind of stuff. It it it will bring a lot of users to their chain, man. So I don't I don't... They... Landy, I don't get why Stacks, they don't do stuff like this. I don't I don't get it, man. I don't get it. It don't don't... To me, it doesn't make any sense to me. You you would think they would they would jump at this opportunity to get more users onto Stacks, but I don't I don't get it.
[1:26:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I agree. I think that it's gonna be trending in that direction. You know, a lot of it was, you know, LunarCrush data and stuff like that, and now we've seen the evolution. Right? So this is the evolution, and I think that you might end up just finding them, excuse me, everywhere.
[1:26:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's really good conversations happening in that community right now even, well, pretty much all day earlier today. So, you know, there's there's a lot of vested interest. There's a lot of TVL, the top TVL chain now for for Bitcoin, and actual TVL, when it comes to coins locked. Right? So this this is not lost on them. I think on the other side of some of the more, organizational things that are happening over there, I think that you'll eventually find this stuff. And it might just have to come from the community at first, just to get it up there because I think the community could make really good use of stuff like this. Right? These things are not going away. We're only gonna see more of these types of platforms, so why not just do it? And I think that's where some of the more prominent members of the community can put their heads together and see what we can do.
[1:27:32] Voice E: Oh, yeah. I'm glad that I I did make a
[1:27:34] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, sorry. Go
[1:27:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: So... No. No. No. No. No. No. I'm sorry. I said, check the pinned polls. Guys, you're asking me how to earn quests, whatever. I pinned, I made a tweet earlier today. Just take me pinned post, check my page, you see how to earn Quacks. Yeah. I I broke it down step by step. So you guys wanna, take a look at it?
[1:27:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Yeah. This is the one I saw earlier, and I think, it was CryptoJudge who was asking about that. And for anybody else on stage and in the audience, if you wanna know how, definitely go check out Cool's post. Look. I I try to follow along with Cool and Coma, and then I realized that I I am not built like this. I'm, like, I'm over here trading on the exchanges, whether it's, centralized and decentralized exchanges and that kind of stuff. And I realized, like, I don't... I actually don't have the time because I have to manage my positions to, rank up. But for many people in this space that aren't traders, they don't trade actively and and manage positions on a on a regular basis. This is such good opportunity, and you always are getting it early here. Like, between Dave, Cool, Coma, and many of the others that that that come on stage... That that come on the stage, you know, we we have we have a a hive mind of knowledge that tends to get this stuff really early and really identify what's going on. So definitely pay attention and follow the direction of of what cool is going there because I've done just a few, and I've already reaped the rewards.
[1:29:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, yeah. And I... My my other post... Me post that real quick. I... This this this might help Dave out maybe. One second. Oh, here you go. Here go. Here Let me let print that real quick. So, Landy, I want you to read read this post out for me. Okay? Just leave the headline. This one, Dave. So, Landy, if you read it for me.
[1:29:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead.
[1:29:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: One second. Cool. Hold on.
[1:29:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Cole's out here fucking Dextering people. What kind of shit is it? Well, you heard that squeaky ass noise?
[1:29:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sorry, Cole. Got a family thing. I don't if thing just came up.
[1:29:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up, Lendy?
[1:29:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was just saying, sorry. I can't read anything right now. I'm... I got a family thing just
[1:29:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: came up. No worries. Cool. Wait. What is it? I don't... Oh, okay. I'll read it. It says, my guys, why are you still single? 800 women at match event, not a single man comes. Hey. Yo. That is not right, Cole. That is not right. You and you... That is crazy.
[1:30:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. That's actually that's actually a real... No joke. That's actually real. I watched the video on YouTube today. I I think it was so many in China. They had they had a a, like, a... What what do call
[1:30:29] Voice E: that stuff? Like, when you go
[1:30:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: out to meet people, like, events.
[1:30:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, our...
[1:30:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So, like, like, mixture. 800 women showed up, not one guy. So if you guys are struggling, man, to find someone, make your guy. Just just go to China.
[1:30:48] Kkoma @itskkoma: I
[1:30:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: think you you... You're okay.
[1:30:49] Kkoma @itskkoma: Dave is gonna go to a conference in China soon. Right? Is it... Didn't you say... Didn't you tell me that? I think that I
[1:30:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: think that actually just made it on the docket. Actually, as of this moment, it looks like, yeah, China's on the on the itinerary for end of year.
[1:31:03] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yes. Yes. And Landy will, call you while you're, like, busy, you know, conversing about trying to get one of his minors going, but you're gonna be like, nope. I'm not answering that right now. I'm busy.
[1:31:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. Hey, guys. Much love. I gotta I gotta drop. Got a got a family emergency going on.
[1:31:19] Kkoma @itskkoma: Alright. See you.
[1:31:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: You good, man. Yeah. Yeah. We're good. Guys, I think we're done for the day. I also got a million things I gotta do here, man. It was a long ass day for me today so far, man. We did back to back to back. Guys, we had an incredible future v... Future verse, WagMe Hub space right before this. It was fucking insane. We got three more episodes there. But tomorrow, guys, we got Bindi AI coming on ATC tomorrow. So we're gonna cook some AI stuff. We're get some... I'm gonna tell it to... I'm gonna tell these dudes, build me every token tracker, fucking AI gem finder that we can. And then, yeah, we'll go from there. Look, guys. Appreciate you. Cool. Thank you. Come appreciate you. Metabeast, I don't know if you have a pulse or not. Normally, you raise a hand for something, but I hope you're okay. Yeah. Alright. Beautiful. CryptoJay, fave, thanks for handing out the the the the wall chain invites, and, yeah, we'll see you guys on the end. Yeah. Peace.

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