The space opened with casual banter and account security tips before diving into major market-moving news. The primary focus was Justin Sun and Tron's reverse merger with SRM Entertainment, creating Tron Incorporated as a publicly traded entity that will treat TRX as a strategic reserve asset, modeled after MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy. Hunter from the Tron team provided extensive insight into Tron's 2025 US expansion plans, partnerships with World Liberty Financial, upcoming Blue Origin collaboration, and broader blockchain adoption goals. Discussions also covered the mass suspension of several prominent crypto accounts including Pump.fun, SunPump, and related bots, with speculation centered on X API misuse. The show closed with reactions to Donald Trump's urgent call for everyone to evacuate Tehran amid escalating Middle East tensions. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.
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# All Things Crypto: Trump tells everyone to leave Tehran | 2025-06-16 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1YpKkBvLnbAxj | status: approved # Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed. [0:02:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can't let it play because I gotta charge the phone. This shit's gonna die. We're fucking... We're be done before we even get started. Holy shit. What's up, y'all? Damn pick... Cool pick the hell of a week to go on vacation. Fucking Landy. I mean, I guess there's there's always gonna be something cooking, but welcome, everybody. All 12 of you. Love it. It's gonna be one of the craziest AGCs ever. Die hard 12 of you motherfuckers. Yeah. Happy Monday, and we're gonna get cooking in just a second. Landy, I got a a couple of things they need to finagle in the background, but let me say what's up to you and Empress. What's good, bro? [0:02:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up, Dave? Just out here trading, man. I mean, look, there's a lot of news that's happening, but I do the same thing every week and every day of every week. And that is I sit down at my computer, I look at the market, and I make trades. And there has been a lot of really good trades to be had in... Since the beginning of this year. It's like really clean, good trades and having a lot of fun. And I'm trying to turn some people on to actually understanding and getting into trading, and that is beginning to work because that is a really good way to make money. And then you don't have to worry about why your favorite, shitcoin launching platform no longer has an account. Right? I mean, that's just kinda how it goes. Like, oh, no. This shitcoin launching platform doesn't have an account, and this one doesn't have an account. Look under your chair. You don't have an account anymore. You look. It's just everywhere. So, you know, if you're just trading, you don't have to worry about who doesn't have a social media account or whether or not daddy Elon and daddy Trump are fighting, or if nation states are trying to wipe themselves off the map. You can trade it instead, and that has been a load of fun while the rest of the world just kinda does its thing, sometimes good, sometimes bad. [0:04:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair enough. And that was the lineup of stories for today. Other than the Tron WagMe Hub info, Landy just gave you the full rundown. Yeah. Fuck fuck. I'm just saying. Empress, what's up? Of course, the thumbs down. What's good, Empress? [0:04:35] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: There's literally so many bad takes in a row. I I almost fell over from the amount of bad takes in a row, Landy. Like, if your entire network is based on, like, how you trade, then, like, you're fucked, which, by the way, if you don't have a backup account premade for if you lose your account, then when you go to make a new account, you're gonna get caught up in the ban evasion thing, and then you won't be able to operate. So go make another backup account now so that way you establish time on it. And then if you ever lose your account, you won't get caught on the ban evasion [0:05:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: side note. Wait. Can you tell me how to do that? Like, can we maybe talk about that, like, afterwards? Because I don't have that, and I'm petrified that my shit's... For whatever reason, it's gonna get shut off. [0:05:15] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I mean, it's two seconds, Dave. Watch us make another account. [0:05:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. [0:05:25] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: So Landing. [0:05:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Saying make another account. Okay. [0:05:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hot tip for you. I've met on my Banovision account since... When is this account? Let's see. It looks like 2021 of... August 2021. That's how long I've been on my Banovision account. [0:05:43] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. I did too, Landy. But I, like, I figured out, though, if you establish one and you get months under it, like, you just... It just goes easier. It's just... Like, you don't even have to get a burner necessarily, like, phone number. [0:05:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: But what do you do at first? Do you post from it, like like, the same way you post from your account, the same shit? Like, how do you... I guess... [0:06:02] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: What what... Mean, posted, like, initial... I mean, I don't know if you saw Somebody paid to have my account taken down there for, like, two months. I ended up getting a formal apology from Twitter in my email, but I already had a backup account set up. All I do is I set it up. I'll post for a few days. I'll drop it in spaces as listener so some people can follow it, and then, like, it legitimizes the account. And then I just lock it, and I just leave it dormant for the most part. [0:06:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Fair enough. I guess that's... I I gotta I gotta move my ass and get on this shit. Good stuff. [0:06:42] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: Hey, Landy. Can we start a school? We'll call it long ride on the short bus, trading school for the vertically challenged. Wee. Yo. [0:06:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. I have multiple pain points there. [0:07:02] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Isn't that all of CT, though? [0:07:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I mean, maybe. [0:07:08] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I mean, it wasn't that, like, the first picture, NFT LA? Did anybody see that with, like, the vape cabal and, like, all the big players, like, twenty twenty one? And I think everybody there was five five. [0:07:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No wonder I was sticking out like a sore thumb. Was wondering why I was such a big hit at NFT LA. I was like, this place is pretty cool. I could see everything, and I was like, wait a minute. Maybe it's not just the thinking about it now, Empress, maybe it wasn't just the lack of people. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it wasn't just the lack of literally everybody that that could have been there that wasn't there, and Jim Jones singing. No lot to a crowd of 12 all walking away from the stage with a big QR code in the background. [0:07:49] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It was my first big fuck up on a tweet, guys. It was it was just an observation. I wasn't necessarily shaming, but, like, I'm telling you, the picture, you could just tell everybody was five five. Like, it was kinda a shocker. Shame. I I felt shame. I know, but I got attacked. They're like, yeah. Were you gonna call you fat? I'm like, he's just an officer. I think I just had never seen so many dwarfs all in one picture. Like, I didn't know. I'm sorry. They they got real mad. [0:08:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Remind me never ever to bring you to diffuse any sort of situation I'm [0:08:24] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: so good at it. I'm a trained mediator. I just I just play a different character here. You don't know. [0:08:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. I I I believe you for sure. Vince, thank you for setting this place on fire from the from the start, you motherfucker. Vince, what's up? [0:08:40] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: Not at all. Another wonderful Monday. That's for damn sure. [0:08:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that. Your key to fucking over a billion FDV, bro. Like, what the hell? Where did you give this to me, by the way? Like, where was this call made? [0:08:54] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: I think I either shot it to you. I think I brought it up on the space, actually. I brought up Kita and Zebak on the space when we were talking, and I said, keep an eye on these these two right here. So there's another one I'm accumulating right now, Redstone. Been accumulating Plume as well. [0:09:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I saw this other Cryptify one that I'm, that I've been looking at for the, for the KOLs and all these, like, Twitter fucking... The the the the Twitter peeps, and I I really like this one because, like, I feel like there's... They're they're building something really good, and I feel so far they actually have something that you can actually look at, which is, like, more than we could say about any other fucking... Yeah. We're gonna tell you about this fucking KOL's last call and that KOL's last call. And it's just like, you can't just be taking Twitter fucking post and being like, that was a call. Although, I gotta be honest, I had a monster fucking call this morning. I'm just saying. On that note, my Tron boys [0:09:48] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, you identify [0:09:49] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: as the KL? [0:09:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I I mean, I I don't identify as one, but I I think, like, people are gonna throw me in the category regardless. So I'd like to consider myself as Bill Doe called me a KAL, key AI leader. So k a I l. I feel like that's more fitting. So I'm a kale, not a cold. Thank you. Sorry, Vince. What were you saying before I go to Travis and Sunny d? [0:10:12] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: I thought your big call was [0:10:13] Vincent_R @DJVincentR: a a number two that you dropped. [0:10:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. It wasn't that. Although everything came out alright today, thankfully. I do have to go for a colonoscopy very soon. I rescheduled my last one. This is what happens when you get older kids. Anyways, TMI. Sunny d, Trev, great space earlier. What's cooking? [0:10:33] Trav @trav_4211: What up, bro? [0:10:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chilling,. What's good? [0:10:38] Sunny D @dylN0chill: They have do it do it yourself at home colonoscopy thing so you could check out. [0:10:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. There's... The doctor needs to get up in there and see what the hell is [0:10:47] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: going on. Pivot. Pivot. Pivot. Pivot. [0:10:53] Sunny D @dylN0chill: It's a good day today. Big time. [0:10:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tell us why is it such a good day today? [0:11:00] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Well, you yourself did a great description of it in that thread you did today. [0:11:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, thanks. [0:11:06] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I think that was the... One of the best posts that laid it out in layman's term that is digestible by people who aren't in crypto and people who are in crypto. Rippling amplification effects is what I foresee. [0:11:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it. I like it. Yeah. Great space earlier. Hopefully, we got Hunter to come on this one. Guys, we're... I'm hoping we get literally, like... So Hunter, for those that don't know who Hunter is, he's hopefully gonna be on here. I shot him the link if he's got him a few minutes. He's on Justin Sun's direct team, and he's got some really, really good inside alpha for us in terms of what they got cooking with. What what was it? Blue... What was it, Sunnyd? [0:11:50] Trav @trav_4211: Blue Origin? [0:11:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Blue Origin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is super interesting to see, but... And we're gonna jump into the specifics around this in a second. Let me just say what's up to Meta Beast and Justice. Meta Beast, what's good? [0:12:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Everything. [0:12:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like the new PFP. Let's go fucking... That's amazing, by the way. Love it. [0:12:12] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: If this guy's instead of the last special guest, I'm going on strike. [0:12:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who was [0:12:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: the last special guest? It... That wasn't a special guest for the record. Okay? That was favored to one of our listeners. Alright? Mind you, are you talking about Telestide? Relax. Okay? Send me down. This is special guest. [0:12:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Think you have to run [0:12:29] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: your guest list through Empress now. [0:12:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm saying I apparently have to run everything through Empress at this point. Yeah. Metabeast was good. Good good to have you, bro. Everything good everything good with you? [0:12:40] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. I said everything. Alright. The day started off great with O'Milly O'Milly O'Milly tweet I saw with... To Legacy about his... Or somebody getting a bat cowl shaped or Batman shaped mustache. It was pretty hysterical. [0:12:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Was that real? [0:13:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I I don't know. It would not surprise me, though. Would not surprise me at all. [0:13:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's when you know it's good. When you... When we can't tell if it's real or not, that's when it's like, oh, shit. Because that was a crazy ass cut or some really good AI usage. Justice, what's up? [0:13:20] Justice @JusteaseXBT: Yo. What's up, everybody? Happy Monday. Hope you guys are having a lovely and productive Monday, man. My big roller coaster. I was one foot away from destroying my life this morning. [0:13:39] Justice @JusteaseXBT: My my my Telegram account... I I woke up. Was it... Yeah. It was it was yesterday evening. Right? I slept and I woke up, and I wanted to do something on my Telegram. And I saw my account has been frozen, and I was like, wow. Technology. This is the first time in my life that I'm seeing the free social media accounts. I thought they only do that to bank accounts. And I was like, well, okay. It's fine. But then I realized again that I had wallets on Telegram, and I have not written deceit phrases. And I... Well, both... Fast forward back to few hours later, I figured out that I actually wrote it. I backed it up to one of my emails that I had to go and dig. But, anyways, glory be to god, I have my wallet back, although I don't have my accounts back. But then I would have been dead. Like, my life is on Telegram currently. So I'm back I'm back to a good mood. Hope you guys hope you guys are doing well too as well. [0:14:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Wait. So your Telegram account was frozen? Why and how? [0:14:47] Justice @JusteaseXBT: I I have no idea. Like, I I I haven't done anything on Telegram for, like, two days because I've been busy with school stuff. And then I just opened my account. I saw the account has been frozen. I was like, well, what did I do? I tried to reach out to the support and, Jesus Christ, for the record, Telegram support is the... I don't want to say it's the shitsiest, but damn Jesus. Nothing works. Like, I send them an email, use the spam boots, tag them on Twitter. I mean, Jesus Christ. I I I just hope I'm able to get it back because I I tried to reach out to some people from TON Foundation and from the TON community too if they can help me, you know, run some back end works. But then I I just really hope I can get the account back. But, anyways, even if I didn't get it back, I've gotten my wallet, which is the most important thing. So whatever happens, happens. [0:15:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm sorry that happened. [0:15:39] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But Yep. [0:15:40] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm sorry. [0:15:40] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: This... I I wanna know why use Telegram, period, because of stuff like that. [0:15:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Are we just gonna glaze over the fact that he did a perfect technologia? [0:15:53] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. That was pretty cool. [0:15:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. I'm so [0:15:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: tired for that. [0:16:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sorry. Are we gonna are we gonna glaze over the fact that we had the conversation that Justice is a female and you just said, he said, but that was a long time ago. You know what I mean? Like, we're not gonna glaze over that one either. But technologia and good. [0:16:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Listen. It was the technologia. It's... You never know these days. [0:16:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love it. Yeah. [0:16:22] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Metabase. Telegram not only is the home of many a bot that is used for trading if you're in the trenches. It's also a lot of OG trenchers, a lot of OG grifters. It's perfect for drug trafficking and other types of trafficking, various types of fraud. It used to be encrypted. It no longer is. It it can be subpoenaed. So remember that when you're engaging in any type of nefarious behavior. And on top of that, ton is the currency there, and they're no longer adopting other types of apps. And if you got in a ton under two dollars and the build out that they're doing, it's well worth the investment that you put in there. So yay. [0:17:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: So come to my... [0:17:05] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Thank you. That confirms pretty much what I thought. [0:17:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's gonna be solely focused around late nights and spilling your guts on spaces. So come on through to my Telegram group. You can put anything in there, pictures, clips, all kinds of fun stuff, your IP address. I mean... [0:17:23] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, I forgot to add. It's similar to Snapchat. You can, like, do things. You know? [0:17:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, joy. Mhmm. And if anybody wants to mint some stickers, you could then use those stickers to essentially start your out of chats. [0:17:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: So the selling points are stickers and late night landy? [0:17:43] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. Really, to be fair, really, a lot of those Sharper bots that people are utilizing are through Telegram. [0:17:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. And also the fact that there's 950,000,000 other active Telegram users, which makes it extremely attractive for blah blah blah blah blah. Go watch my interview with Victor, the head of global... The global head of community for TON that I did last Friday. Yep. Last Friday. It was a good one. So definitely go check it out. [0:18:12] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Alright. Hey, Landy. Watch this. I'm friends with Victor too. [0:18:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? I'm not gloating about the fact... I'm gloating about the interview. The interview was incredible. I did a great job on the interview, not the actual [0:18:24] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: have get a running joke that I know everybody. It was just a running joke. That's all [0:18:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not even bothered with these jokes. [0:18:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Empress introduced me to to him already. So I'm gonna go and sit on stage in engagement farm for a little bit. [0:18:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what? The both of these? Yeah. Anyways... Okay. Can we get into the stories for today, please? I wanna start with the Tron story, but I kinda have to... I I need some I need some feedback on this, like, ace... ASAP because, obviously, you guys know WagMe Hub has been, like, for me, it's it's my it's my primary job, I wanna say. Right? So this is obviously super important to me. Their TGE is coming up, next week, but they're doing something really, really cool where I need to come up with a name for... So I need to... I'm I'm gonna start, like, a community on Twitter. And I I need to come up with a name for, like, the WagMe hub. Like, I guess, I was gonna call it the WagMe army, but I feel like this is a little cheesy. I I feel like it's okay, but GPT just doesn't do it. What would you guys call the community? What would you name the community or even call the community members if they were... Like, for WagMe hub? Any ideas? [0:19:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: The WagMe hub. Delusional? [0:19:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. Stop it. Serious. I need serious ink... I need serious suggestions for fuck's sake. [0:19:50] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: But real quick, in all seriousness, like, people take for granted the acronyms. Can you tell people what TGE stands for and tell people real quick what WagMehub is? [0:20:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So so TGE stands for token generation event. This has been a long, long, long time coming, especially for a lot of, like, the WagMehub faithful. But WagMehub is essentially a platform... I mean, combining AI, media, memes. It's... It started off as really just kinda like memes. But when I came on board, like, eight months ago, I really wanted to make a push for, like, the media side. And with the amount of wallet users that they had, it just made a lot a lot of sense because they were able to snag some really big names. And it... It's it's former big names from Trust Wallet, like, couple of the the operations guys are from, like, Lamborghini and a few other places. So it's it's a good mix of web two, web three. But for those of you that know, we run a lot of different spaces on there. Me, Buildo, and Gex are running all onboard tomorrow. That's the WagMe Hub Future Verse collab that we are on episode three of. We're gonna have Candy Digital on tomorrow. So long and the short, like, they're big, big, big on community and being able to reward community, and that's what we wanna do. So starting this community now, like, the... Literally, Twitter community, I wanna start badging people up. Right? Like, it's a matter of, like, keeping the... If... Let let me keep it real with you guys. It's a... When you have a TGE, a token generation event, you have to keep hype going no matter what that is. Not lie to people, but you have to stay top of mind, like, on the timeline, like, And if you do that, maybe you have a successful TGE at the end of the day. Right? So, look, it's not just about one day pump, dump, whatever, but I really wanna help, like, build this out because I think that we're gonna be able to do some really, really cool things. They've done right by me this entire time I've been there. I've grown. I've made some amazing connections while I've been there. So hopefully, hopefully, you you can do the same for a lot of other people. And, yeah, we'll we'll see. But thanks, Empress, for making me make the clarification. [0:21:55] Trav @trav_4211: Wag me mob. [0:21:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Another... What's that? [0:21:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wag me mob. [0:22:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wag me mob. I like that. [0:22:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I have to say what it is because I know you all won't like it. Wag me verse. Wag me verse? No. I know. [0:22:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Competitive. What do you think? Yeah. Build a... [0:22:18] Trav @trav_4211: What's more exciting than a mob of people with a with a common goal? [0:22:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Kinda scary too. Like, it feels a little scary, so maybe people should be afraid. [0:22:27] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It's too long. You guys need something like... You could do like mobbers, but, like, you you can't be doing all that. It's too long. [0:22:35] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: That's what she said. Never. [0:22:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Free marketing for all the other WagMe tokens. [0:22:41] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: I mean, I just feel like you rip off main z, call it WagMe hub, and just say it's everybody's second favorite hub. [0:22:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know? [0:22:54] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Could be a station. [0:22:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: For those that are [0:22:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I would keep it up. [0:22:58] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Are we calling the people or are we calling the community? [0:23:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, either either or. Like, I need both. Right? So, like, I figured if I have one at least, it'll it'll be good enough. But if you... If one comes to mind more than the other, let me know. [0:23:10] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I just call them Wagmy.... [0:23:11] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Favorite hub. [0:23:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wagmy hub king. There you go. You're all... You're you're... You you you you say that they are not being [0:23:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: dubbed a Wagmy [0:23:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: hub king. And... [0:23:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't loop me don't loop me into the whole more money than god fucking conversation. Okay? Like, that's gonna be in there. I don't want that. [0:23:31] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Alright. There's your title right there. Everybody will join. [0:23:35] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Why are a guy with diamond hand holders? [0:23:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is this is this is the the challenge because WagMe is is a vernacular that is used across the Internet when it comes to anything that even touches financial products. Right? So... And then there's also a ton of different meme coins that are literally that name, whether it's all... [0:24:01] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: And one has massive mind share right now. [0:24:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. It does. And then there's there's even, like, Ethereum ones, and then there's something for every single chain that has that as well. So it's more about, like, getting the... Something that wraps the ethos of what this project is and what the token is related to the project. Right? And and that's where it is a bit of a challenge, but WagMe Hub is already in the name. And if it's the WagMe Hub community, you know, there you go. Right? And then connect it to the token name. [0:24:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: So the token symbol... These... Either these these guys are geniuses or what, but I just found out today, apparently, like, I'm on a need to know basis at this point, but we have a Kaito competitor coming out that's supposed to be launching this week. And we are actually gonna be the ones helping launch the official Telegram sticker marketplace because there's, I think, one or two other marketplaces right now, but we're apparently gonna be like... No wonder I was getting all these interviews, and I thought it was for my sparkling personality. Go figure. But... Yeah. So we have a Kaito competitor coming out. The ticker for Wagme Hub is gonna be Infofi. I didn't put that in the title for none. It's I n f o f I. So... And that's the only Infofi ticker that's currently out there. It's gonna be on Solana. I don't know. Maybe I go with Wagme Army, and I guess we'll see we'll see where it goes from there. Alright. We'll see. No need to spend more time on this, but let me say what's up to GP, and then we'll get into we'll get into some of the stories. Love the pump fun story. Love the fucking... The the the Tron story, Justin Sun. GP, what's good, bro? [0:25:39] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Calm and Foreman. Yo. Sorry. Go ahead. [0:25:42] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: The Wag Me Wingman. I know you said you wanted to move on. What's up, man? I hope everybody's having a very, very high frequency start to their week. I am having a blessed day so far. How are you doing, Dave? [0:25:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm doing good, GP. Doing good. Doing good, man. It's gonna be a busy week, bro. You know? You work your ass off for a a a lot of, like... You know, that that culminate in certain moments. I feel like this week and next is gonna be a lot of those for me. So, you know, I'm out here grinding, my man. You good? [0:26:09] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: Yeah, dude. Pump fun. Their ex account got got taken down. Is that what what what happened? [0:26:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: That that is. Do we wanna lead in with this fucking with this fucking story? I literally know nothing other than the headline, Landy, Empress, like, anybody else have additional info? [0:26:26] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Elon got taken out too. [0:26:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who? [0:26:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Elon. [0:26:31] Sunny D @dylN0chill: It's eleven. For [0:26:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: real. For real. Imagine if, like, they get busted for something stupid. Like, they didn't pay taxes on, like, $750,000,000. Like, that's some dumb shit. Well, what happens? Anybody have, like, the Lolo other than, like, their account... Their, the PumpFund account got suspended? Any any additional insight or no? [0:26:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: It looks like, Bloom, Nova, GMGN, PumpFund, and a couple of others. I think people are just kinda trying to aggregate which ones are out. And then, a funny post, but one that is, kinda relevant is, Andrew posted about the, some of the code that's that's... That is possibly being implemented has crypto spam in it. He's like, it's been a good run, bros. So I don't know. You know, As far as I know, these accounts are official accounts. I mean, some of them were even, weren't they they full on company accounts with the gold badge and everything? [0:27:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Full on. Yes. They were. [0:27:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's wild. It's illegal use of the xAPI is what many are saying, but I don't think anybody really knows the real answer to it. Right? Apparently, there is ways to get around using the xAPI without having to pay the $100 a month or whatever it is. And I I thought it was more than that. I thought it was $1.99 a month, but maybe I was looking at a different package. [0:28:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's the basics, bro. Like, the bare minimum. If you want any type of real data, you need, like, you're spending 5,000 a month, like, for, like, any... Anything really, like, relevant. You know? [0:28:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, okay. [0:28:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I had to just... Yeah. I had to spend 200 a month just to get the the the authorization token just to say, hey. Authorizes that just to see accounts, let alone pull, like, all the data that's associated with them. So, yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I generally don't know. That would be insane if that's the reason why, like, these accounts got... It has to be something else. Empress, what do got? [0:28:34] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. I'm pretty sure that's it. The Bloom bot, for instance, had capabilities of scraping Twitter timelines for tickers. They they had found creative methods to to go around and get the things that they needed. And a lot of people on these teams were not... I can't imagine they were compliant in how they were doing it. So if I were gonna lay bets, I'm gonna lay bets that that's what it was. Only because I do know that those are the type of functions that were involved with some of the tools that they were providing. [0:29:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: But why SunPump, though? Like, if SunPump... Like, is that a direct tool that SunPump, like, provides, or is it a third party? [0:29:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, if they... I I... They would have to be doing API calls that got flagged. Right? That's the only way, and then they, you know, obviously, track it back to a server serving that up to these accounts. I don't know why Sunpump would be... Yeah. Because, that's that's a really interesting one. The only other thing that I thought when I started seeing this is, oh, are they getting ready to launch their own crypto platform slash wallet slash something else? Right? And now they're eliminating everyone off that, which is dirty as hell. And I'd I'd like to think that that's not what's happening, but there... We also know that there has been... You know, if you go to Telegram, there are some back channels where you can find ways in which they were utilizing full access to the API or reusing access to someone else's API, either via stolen API keys or via different methodologies to, just not pay to get access to the data. So I I don't know if that was deemed to be unauthorized access or possibly a security breach, or, or a terms of service breach or something like that. But there's definitely something going on because their... The accounts are going down, like, left and right, throughout today. It's been kinda wild to watch. [0:30:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's interesting. GP, go for it, bro. [0:30:49] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: I'm seeing a couple, like, Yeet Max is talking about the SEC is seeking to take a legal action against some fun. I I don't know if this is, like, real fun or... [0:30:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I can't [0:30:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: hear you. I... GP, can't hear you. Can you get a little bit louder maybe or come a little closer to mic? [0:31:03] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: Maybe maybe this is it. It probably just didn't have the settings right on my new toy over here. Don't worry. It's it's not that much fun, not what you're thinking. But, yeah, it's like... Yeah. I see I see a bunch of fake news articles saying from sccdot...@c...secgov saying that the SEC is monitoring activity on pump fund, blah blah blah. Is this true, or, like, is is there anything No. [0:31:28] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: Truth to this? [0:31:29] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: No. Just just just lazy bud. Quick to answer that, Landy. [0:31:34] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: How do [0:31:34] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: you know? [0:31:34] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: You're so quick, Landy. How do you know? [0:31:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because I because I got, like, five different people sent sent this to me that aren't even on x, and I was like, this looks fake. Everything about it looks fake. So you'd be... You're not gonna get an email, first off. You're gonna get officially served, and you're gonna get a, you're gonna get a Wells notice, and that's gonna be how you're actually gonna get, you know, informed. They don't just email you and say, hey. We're taking action against you. So that's... [0:32:08] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: You know how I knew [0:32:09] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: it it [0:32:10] Gpsc.btc @GPSC_STX: was fake? It's like... Read this one. So the SEC is monitoring activity on pump on any Indian IP that has sold a coin before bonding curve will get five years in prison. [0:32:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. There's that part too. Yeah. [0:32:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Watch out, d gens. Yo. That's crazy. Everybody gonna get pre... You get prison time. Yeah. This is where you gotta do the Oprah. You get five years. You get five years. [0:32:33] Trav @trav_4211: Hey. Yo, Dave. Yo. I see we got Hunter and Steven down there, bro. [0:32:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I invited Hunter up. I sent him the invite ten minutes ago. Hunter, come cook, bro. I'm ready to get this fucking... This story started. Let's go. Yeah. Enough time on pump fun. Guys, can we also address the fact now that I am a real legitimate influencer with real influence? Because if you look at the top, okay, I need you to look at this tweet. The timing of this tweet was just [0:33:00] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Wait. [0:33:00] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I absolute what? [0:33:01] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I accidentally covered your tweet with all the suspended accounts. Let me delete that for you. Sorry. There we go. Alright. There we go. [0:33:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. So like I was saying, I'm a real influencer, guys. Like, real influence. Go figure. No. I'm a real boy. [0:33:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Why is he so excited about this? [0:33:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm a real boy. Listen. When you can have some real influence and actually something goes your way, and it's like, somebody's gonna... If somebody's gonna fucking create an app that says, oh, look at all the calls they're making. Well, for fuck's sake, at least let me make a monster fucking call. You know what I mean? And that's what that's what happened this morning. But, anyways, here's the skinny. Hunter, I shot you an invite if you wanna come through. Come chat with us, bro. Give us the, the rundown on what's going on. But Justin Sun is is playing a very, very different game than a lot of people. Okay? We saw news this morning. I saw it in my chat. I think it was Sunny d that might that might have broke it, and I was like, wait. What? It was a watcher guru tweet that said TRX going public. I'm like, how the hell is this gonna work? Reverse merger. Look at, like, the actual net... Like, the stock that they actually are gonna reverse merger or that they're reverse merging into, the dollar amount of money. I'm not gonna bore you guys with these details, but go read the thread up top. This is a stock that literally closed at a dollar and 20ยข on Friday, up from 80ยข, mind you, probably, like, one or two days prior. And today, at the open, was trading at around $5.30. I was literally sitting on the other side of this when I was working Wall Street on the trading desk for almost eleven years. I was a market maker. We lick our chops for stuff like this. And not because we want to trade against. Because, again, the job of a market maker is to add liquidity where essentially, like, in a market that it doesn't exist. But the problem or or rather the difference here is, like, market makers on Wall Street actually benefit a lot of these companies because we're competing against other market makers. So we don't know who's providing what liquidity where as opposed to you going to a certain exchange. Right? And then there's one group or one market maker that for the most part is kinda working against you. But bottom line is Justin Sun is out here, reverse merger, 100,000,000 in TRX that's going into this SRM entertainment that used to be a toy company that is now sitting at $9 and... That closed at $9.19 today with a $158,000,000 market cap that started the day off at 10 mil. Okay? Like, this is different. There's gonna have massive ripple effects, but let me just walk guys, Landy, Empress, everybody else up on stage before I get to you guys. Let me just say what's up to Hunter. Hunter, what's good, my man? Thank you for joining us. [0:35:35] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Absolutely. What's going on, guys? I was tuning in earlier, and you always host fantastic spaces. But going, like, directly into what you were talking about with Tron and Justin, like, now acquiring this company and making basically Tron Incorporated and really just trying to expand Tron's presence in The United States, What's really interesting is your thread is so on point about literally everything that when people were asking me, like... Because as soon as I woke up and, like, we had the news, all of our partners and many community members were saying like, hey. Like, Hunter, what is this about? First thing I would send them is your link so they could actually read into it, like, more in-depth because it's so on point. But, yeah, like, Tron's goal has been for the longest time to really expand within The United States. Like, right now, we're very big in Asia and Latin America, but 2025, our focus has been expanding into The US, which is why we, like, we're so heavily closely working with, like, the World Liberty Financial. We were just in Vegas or attending the Bitcoin Vegas conference. So we're with Eric Trump, and we were, like, discussing a whole bunch of, like, future initiatives. And then this now is the newest one. The latest announcement came out this morning where, yeah, now we have Tron Incorporated, and the goal is to make it very similar to, if everybody knows, Michael Saylor and the... It used to be called MicroStrategy, but now just Strategy. We wanted to create something very similar where it's like Tron Strategy, where now we have a publicly traded company called Tron Incorporated that can now purchase TRx, like, as a reserve currency, which will be really good for not just the price, but the ecosystem as a whole and really attract institutional investors and also help with different exchange listings. So right now, I think TRX can only be purchased that I can think of off the top of my head on, like, Kraken. But there is other US exchanges that we're on the lookout for, like crypto.com, Coinbase, Gemini, and several others that I probably can't even think of right now. But the point is is our goal for 2025 is to really make Tron just be a dominating blockchain within The US and just bring more awareness to it. There... There's so much that the Tron ecosystem has to offer. Like, there's so much going on behind the scenes, and it's really exciting now that people within The United States can actually get their hands on TRx and use it and see how quick, fast, and efficient the chain is. And then I know we were talking earlier about memes, but our goal is to definitely... Regardless of everything that we could see happening today with memes, we do know memes have a very powerful future ahead, especially on the Tron blockchain. [0:38:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And and, Hunter, if you can, maybe, like, let everybody know kinda, like, like, you work with the TronDAO, like, so people get... Have a little more context as to who you are, and they're not like [0:38:20] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Oh, that is true. I guess. Yeah. You know, I'm so not used to, like, as introducing myself. So, yeah, so my name is Hunter, senior ecosystem development and investment team lead of Tron. You can even email me at... My email is Hunter@Tron.network. I work very closely with the the Tron team. I was just in Vegas with Justin Sun and the rest of the other TronDAO team members. Usually, every month, I'm always on the move going to all the different major crypto conferences. So whether it'd be, like, consensus, which was just in Hong Kong, or I'll go to China. I'll go to Singapore for a token $20.49. Literally, every month, I'm always on the move, and I usually talk fast because I'm always drinking coffee to keep myself energized because of all the back to back meetings and all the traveling and, like, the jet lag is, like, nonstop. But home base is Florida for me, so I'm usually at home in Florida for, like, a week repacking, getting... I don't know if you've ever seen me on the Internet, but I always wear, like, a Doge costume or, like, a funny outfit with Justin Sun's face on it. But I work very closely with the Tron team. I'm one of the the top TronDAU team members. And, yeah, just always on the move doing everything I can working with everybody else to help bring not just, let's say, Tron mass adoption, but really make the entire industry, like, go global. And I'm talking with people from, like, BlackRock, Mastercard, Visa, all these different, like, people that create ETFs. Like, I'm doing everything I can with the rest of the team to really bring crypto and blockchain as a whole, not just Tron, but the entire crypto industry, really bringing it to the masses and making the whole world decentralized. [0:39:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love it. Good shit, Hunter. I mean, I have a bazillion, like, a million and one questions, but I kinda wanna work it around the panel here and kinda get everybody's take on the news. Landy, let's start with you, bro. Like, what do you make of this news? I know you're obviously sitting and listening to Sunny D space earlier. I was kinda going off in there. Like, light bulbs were going off in my brain. Like, holy shit. Like, this really changes the game from a lot of different perspectives. What's your take? [0:40:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, can you hear me? You gotta love it. Alright. We'll come back. Oh. Oh, what... What's up? Hey. How are you? [0:40:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Welcome to space. Sorry. There's there's a tiny child crying next to me. [0:40:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. [0:40:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: I heard the Trondell stuff, and I heard I heard our our guest Hunter talking, and then a young child was crying next to me. So [0:40:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're good. You're good. Go to... Go go go to daddy duty. I can work back around whenever you free come back. I'll go to Empress first. You good? Empress, what's your take on the... Tron and this whole reverse merger now going public? What do you think? [0:40:55] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I don't speak any of that language. Happy for you, and I will be scouting the chain as I always do for whatever things that I can make massive amounts of money on. But I... All that other stuff that he just said, I I trade on culture, and I look at charts, and I'm like, oh, that looks like tits that I'm in. So it's just really a little beyond me. [0:41:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, I guess what I was asking... What... Like, I'm assuming you... You're one to definitely follow, like, all the drama that's on the fucking timeline. We all are. Like, we're junkies for it. Right? Jesse, like, Jesse Pollock and and Justin Sun are probably, like, at this point, like, kinda going at it. Do you think this changes, like, the ecosystem at all? Like, in terms of Coinbase being public. Right? Like, it seemed like it was [0:41:41] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I feel like you're trapping me here. Do you want my time here? [0:41:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. I do. I really do. Yeah. [0:41:47] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Both figures are highly stigmatized, and both are hardly attributed to decentralization. I I I mean, I guess if they're stepping into the ring, I would imagine Justin Sun is a little more on the badass side of that. So we'll see how it plays out. But, I mean, the... Coinbase has that monopoly, so it'll it'll be interesting to see what that head to head looks like. [0:42:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good shit. Como, welcome. Just in time. What's good? [0:42:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: Not much, man. Lot of lot of stuff on the timeline these days. I've just been... Just trying to keep up. But, yeah, glad to be here. Of course, you can dock my pay for coming a little bit late, but, yeah, the... Got a, like, got a nice little airdrop from, hey, Anna and team. I think they're gonna be on Kaido soon. So pretty excited about that because I think I'm gonna get a lot of residual Real airdrops. [0:42:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Real quick comment. Did you did you see the the the Tron news? Only because Hunter's... Yeah. I wanna be respectful of his time. Did you see the the the the TRX news or no? [0:42:54] Kkoma @itskkoma: I didn't. Okay. I've been I've been all over the place. That's why I was kinda staying [0:42:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: All good. All good. All good. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Hang tight. Landy, go for it, bro. [0:43:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: More treasury companies. Hey. Look. That's gonna be the thing. Right? Justin's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. Obviously, he's surrounded himself with smart people, and this is a really good play. As soon as I read what was going on, I was like, yeah. That's like a... It's a logical step to make in this game. And then eventually become a treasury company, and then you can even flush out your treasury with more than just the Tron asset. Right? Because that's... How Justin does things anyway. We've seen him make moves, in this market for a very, very long time, and he has made much better moves than many of the prominent people who have both come before him and after him in this space. So controversy aside, because everyone is always con... Controversial and stigmatized, whether you're talking about Sailor, Pollock, or Justin. You know, he is a major leader in this space who has connections in this space and in DC now, and with some of the most important people on the planet. So making a move like this is a logical move. And the way in which it was done, man, it's just, like, way to identify that because that is such a beautiful way to get in without having to deal with the BS. Because there's a lot of BS and a lot of other partnerships that you have to make if you really wanna do what just happened from the very beginning or from the first step. Right? So I I, you know, I applaud the I applaud the move. Super smart. And I'm interested to see how things continue to play out going forward. But, yeah, you know, when he went... When he was talking about your thread, when I when I was going through the thread, was like, I don't know if I'm able to process this right now. And I went back through it, and I was reading it shortly before the space started here, and I was like, oh, that's, this makes complete sense and is likely going to provide for a path for others. Almost guaranteed copycats now are gonna be using exactly this type of strategy. [0:45:16] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I I will clarify. Yeah. Justin has, like, ability going for him. Some of these other players that Landy talked about, people don't like and that people like Justin. Landy's right about that. [0:45:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I mean, look. I think what this does also, and GP, I'm coming to you right now is think about this. Right? Like, now this is instant, like like, on ramp. You know what I mean? Like, to to TRX, right, to Tron here in The United States. There's no more of these crazy jumping through fucking hoops, this and that. The same way that you buy Coinbase, right, or strategy or whatever the fuck it is, Like, you can now do the same thing with what used to be a defunct toy company. But these are our rules. These are our regulations, and he's doing it by the book. I think he's playing a very, very different game. Landy, I said this in in in Trav and and Sunny d space, but I feel like Justin Sun... When everyone was laughing at a $6,000,000 banana. Right? But I I I said in their space, I'm like, yeah. Who's laughing now at a $6,000,000 banana? Maybe it's... It might be stupid. Who gives a shit at the end of the day? It's... Like, look at where my man is right now. Like, $100,000,000 pumping into this thing, and he now has fresh on ramp, and he's late. Like, I agree with you. He's laying out the blueprint for every other crypto fucking token to be able to do something very, very similar. And he's got the fucking president's son that's probably gonna be sitting on that board or on that team. Hunter, any comment there? Can you tell us anything about Eric Trump? [0:46:47] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: I mean, well, he did publicly make a statement saying that he, like, publicly is not, like, assisting with the Tron Incorporated. However, I can say that we are very well connected with Eric Trump and some other members of the Trump administration, and we were even planning on doing something like how Solana has Solana Breakpoint and Ethereum has, like, e... Denver ECC. And then there's Bitcoin Vegas. There's always, like, these dedicated conferences depending on the blockchain or token. Tron in the past had something called Nitron. It was a fantastic event that we used to do before the pandemic, and we had, like, Kobe Bryant was a speaker, and we had a lot of other, like, high level figures. And we were originally planning on doing a Nitron event in Hong Kong, and we were going to have Eric Trump as one of the main speakers. The Kardashians wanted to show up for some reason and then a whole bunch of other, like, celebrity guests. So they were all interested in attending our Tron dedicated Nitron event, which was supposed to be in Hong Kong in August. But then when Justin got invited into The United States, we're like, how about we just focus this year all in on The US? So we're delaying Nitron for most likely 2026, which would be the massive Tron conference. And, like, all of the rest of this year is just focused on going big, doing, like, high level plays, meeting up with, like, important people. Justin already did, like, a tour of the SpaceX headquarters. We also just met with the Blue Origin team. We might have a big announcement in July, I believe, with Blue Origin, so that should be very exciting. Of course, we're working very closely with World Liberty Financial and have more things to come with the current administration, which is looking very positive. And we may or may not be doing a Joe Rogan podcast. Like, there's so many cool things that Justin's doing, trying to bring hype and interest to just Tron blockchain as a whole. Justin's past, he really wants to, like, tell his story of, like, who he is and how he got to where he is today, and then just lay out all of our plans of our expansion plans within The United States. And really taking, like I said, not just Tron, but we want the world to see the power of crypto, of blockchain, and of decentralization. And, like, Tron's very chain agnostic. Like, we have a billion dollar ecosystem fund. We invest in projects. Even if you don't build on Tron, like, we're here to support you. Like, we wanna help all projects succeed. I think there's even been, like, problems in the past with, like, things, and Justin will throw in money to fix it or, like, companies have gone, like, under or or needed support. I think CurveDao was one of them. There was even, like, a meme coin where somebody, like, burnt the entire supply, and then Justin came in and fixed it. Like, we care very much about the industry as a whole, and we want everybody to win regardless of your favorite chain or your or your favorite investment. Like, we want everybody in the industry to thrive and have a good time. So our goal is not just to make Tron go global. We want everybody in the entire world to be on the blockchain, to be buying Bitcoin, to understand the power and the use case of, like, decentralization, and just really make the world a better place utilizing the blockchain tech. [0:49:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love that. Do you do you think that the Trump, meme coin was, a jump off point? Or, like like, what role do you think that played in all this? Because I know, like, we've had those discussions in in a lot of the Sun Pump spaces where we're, like, the average Joe can potentially, like, grab a seat at the table with the president of The United States, let alone if you're a a billionaire. And, obviously, Justin Sun being one of the, if not the top holder, how... What kind of role do you think that played in this? [0:50:10] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: So he definitely was the top holder, and it was a good event where I think a lot of people showed up. If you bought the Trump token and then you went to that Trump dinner, it was quite fun. And then I think everybody ended up getting, like, I think, different prizes depending on the amount that you held. But what was unique about the experience as a whole is Trump, whenever he launched or, like, the the team that was behind it that launched the the Trump token, half of the buyers of that coin were, like, very first time crypto buyers. And it was very smart the way that they did it. It was unbelievably user friendly. The biggest problem with the industry, I would say, at the moment is, like, the on and off ramp. A lot of the older generation or people that aren't really in the industry, they might not know how to get into crypto. So they made it quite easy. Anybody could, like, buy the Trump coin, I believe, with, a debit card. So it was very quick to just get the token. And I think half of the buyers of the Trump coin were very first time, like, buyers of, like, any type of crypto. So it was very neat to see, like, the power of somebody with so much influence was able to onboard so many new people to the industry. And I'm not saying that their experience, like, was the best first experience because of, like, how the market moved and things move up and down in price, but it was great to see that many people get onboarded so quickly. So from that perspective, it's good the way that it happened just to see all these new people get into the industry. And then, hopefully, now they become curious, and they want to explore more, whether it be the Solana ecosystem. Maybe they buy Bitcoin for the first time, or maybe they discover, like, Tron because of our connections with World Liberty Financial. And it may still even be on the bookshelf. Like, anybody here that's listening into the space, it it may still be on shelves. It was last month's edition of Forbes, but anybody that went to any bookstore, like Books A Million or even if you're walking through an airport, you could see on the cover of the latest Forbes magazine was Justin Sun and how our investment in World Liberty Financial helped to make the Trump administration or at least World Liberty Financial itself about $400,000,000. So, of course, Eric, Trump, and everybody from, like, that family was very happy with that investment and happy with our involvement and definitely wants to work more closely with Tron and Justin because of it. [0:52:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. Appreciate it, Hunter. Yeah. Empress, go for it. [0:52:25] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Never mind. [0:52:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, okay. Okay. You're good. Yeah. I mean, look. I think there's just... You know, I said this in the last space, and and Sunny d, Trav, I I kinda want you guys to weigh in because at Sunny d, every time, like, you come up here, right, like, you're you're our regular... Like, one of our regular contributors and you're preaching the Tron gospel, like, steady income. It's like, I said this last time, it's tortoise in the hair. Nobody wants to hear about 15, 20, like, steady fucking gains. You know what I'm saying? Like, the degens and the... Like, everybody wants the casino. It's kind of fucking crazy. But give me your take on on this news. What do you what do you think? [0:53:04] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Right. So go look at traditional markets. A lot of times, those types of investors are looking for... Even Warren Buffett, he's looking for companies that give dividends. Tron has mastered how to, I guess I guess, we call them airdrops, but essentially dividends through staking, through DeFi, through the energy bandwidth model on Tron. And it's pretty lucrative. It keeps people in double digit APY. And whether you're you're flat like our initial staking for governance, you get paid upwards of almost 4% now. We just had a a proposal to change the rewards... Block rewards that decreased it. So we just had a halving event. So now there's half as much TRX being generated with block rewards and voting rewards. So... But back to the passive income part, it's... You know, Tron has been slowly trucking upwards. It's not just Tron, it's also the whole ecosystem tokens. Passive income is baked into everything. It's a long term play. And these announcements like this is going to... For regular investors who are looking for dividends, this is gonna tie and catch the eyes of those types of investors, people who want to park their money somewhere and then while it's parked, make passive income on that. And so whether it's through Tron Inc. Or the upcoming ETF that's likely to to pass, a new cohort of people that are looking for something like this with all the data, a 100% uptime, amazing case study and stable coins across the world, adoption of over 2,000,000 daily active users. There's just a lot of financial analysis when you go through it and you look at Tron that is going to make it highly likable to invest in, especially to more mature investors. [0:55:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Agreed. Yeah. And and and, Landy, I kinda wanted to pick your brain, and then, Trevor, I kinda wanna pick your brain also. But, Landy, like, I'm I'm curious. I don't know if you heard what I said in in in Sunnyd's last space, but does this change the landscape now? Because, I I mean, I did say that, you know, maybe Fidelity and them, like, weren't really talking about Tron. Although Hunter did say, like, they were having conversations in the background, but now this is, a legitimate... Like like, this is legitimately a place where they can now park money. Does this change the landscape? Like, does it... You know what I mean? Especially on the heels of this USDC fucking IPO. Like, what do you think? [0:56:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, of course. I mean, I think we're gonna see more and more like this as an easier vector for institutional players to get involved in and or get exposure to crypto. Right? Because you can get involved by buying a big piece of the company too. So there's... This is gonna happen more and more, and it's funny you brought up, JPMorgan because if this is accurate, they just trademarked, JPMD, which is... Many are speculating, and I think they could be right. They could be wrong speculating that this is a stablecoin play. But, you know, I... We know that they're interested in getting into crypto, including including challenging the King exchanges on crypto. Right? Now that would be a bit of a different, filing for them, to become an... Like an exchange, but, you know, it it really depends on, you know, which route they wanna go. They really can do anything they want. They got enough money to do it. And in this case, more and more companies doing like this, and this is now... What did I call it the last time that we talked about, like, the Bitcoin treasury companies? It it... This is like the race. It's like every narrative, once it starts, starts with a slow roll. You get the Bitcoin treasury companies, and then we got one of the... We got SPAT picking up Ethereum, and now we've got the play that Justin just made. And this is now going to start picking up pace, and it's likely you're gonna still see more and more like, oh, we're we're we're going in the top 10 of crypto or we're Bitcoin or we're Ethereum or we're doing this. And then you'll get some one offs like what what Justin's doing with some... With with other top cap coins. And then then it's going to be no breaks, all gas. And it's just gonna be every single company either being purchased, merge... Murdered, or or or founded with the intention of being a crypto focus or crypto first company with a crypto reserve. And that is, I think, the actual... I've now heard at least three of of my prior colleagues talking about this because now they they get into, helping facilitate funding and, of course, helping to make the market, especially when you... And and even some do some of the underwriting for some of this stuff, and they are now getting their phone lines blown up. Like, hey. You know, we're ready to go. We wanna find the right time frame and best best, roadshow or, you know, we want to do x y z in order to get a piece of this or to launch ourselves. So this is gonna be the pump fun of the crypto market. So that's... This is gonna be the narrative. It's gonna be ticker after ticker after ticker until it all just goes vertical, and then no one can even keep up, and everyone just starts cannibalizing them... Themselves. So that means that the earlier you are to this game, these companies that are gonna be the earliest in the game are gonna be the ones, in my opinion, that will last. And that's just kinda it. [0:59:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Wow. Good good takes. Trav, and then I wanna go to Avi Crypto. Know Avi came up, but, Trav, give me your take. What's good? [0:59:28] Trav @trav_4211: Oh, you already know, baby. This is what we've been waiting on. Well, waiting for everyone in The US to see anyway. Like, people around the world have already known what, you know, Tron has been, you know, for years as a global settlement layer, like, kind of just building in the shadows. Like, d and I have been in... Involved since before Mainnet, and, bro, I'm loving what I'm seeing. Now entering The United States market the way we are, you know, usually, those who start out in front stay out in front, and Tron is leading as far as, you know, actual real world use case when it comes to crypto. We already know stablecoin adoption is gonna increase. Right now, Tron is the most active with stablecoin transactions. Bro, I'm pumped. And a lot of people are gonna see the value in Tron or wake up to it. Like, it's not just about getting getting Tron now. It's so undervalued, but with the resource model on it, like, it's digital real estate, bro. And the Web three community on Tron is, like, still in its infancy. It's not a lot of activity from that side. Like I said, it's mostly stablecoin transactions now. So you have a chance to get situated, and that's... It's gonna be... Like, energy rental on Tron is gonna be big business leading into the future, man. It's it's gonna be nuts. I'm excited. [1:00:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it. Good shit, Trav. Yeah. Listen. I see what there is to be excited about. But, Hunter, hang out one second. I don't know if, Avi, you have a question for Hunter or... Regarding this topic? [1:00:57] avi crypto ๐ฉ๐๐ฑ @avicrypto770: Yeah. It could could reach to anyone who knows it. First of all, thank you for for tweeting about it. That I I got in early. It was it was pretty awesome. But I was wondering, because I'm pretty sure the the the deal has to do with them, what's it called, trying getting a lot of shares. Is there any concern with the amount of shares that they got, that there's a lot of inflation or or there's gonna be dumping or anything? [1:01:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, meaning, like, in the new company, the SRM company? So the 200,000,000 shares and the and and the warrants as well? [1:01:34] avi crypto ๐ฉ๐๐ฑ @avicrypto770: Yeah. Exactly. [1:01:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I don't know. Hunter, like, I don't know if you know, like, if you're in in... Into it in in that detail, but any insight there? [1:01:43] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: I mean, I do know that Tron itself, like... Or, like, Tron Incorporated. So it's supposed to be very similar to Michael Saylor and Bitcoin. So Tron Incorporated will be buying TRx like a strategic reserve. It's So going to be buying it up and then removing it essentially from circulation. So it should be more assisting, I would say, the price and the demand of TRx versus selling or making it, let's say, more cell pressure on the market. It should definitely drive up demand. It should make the supply, I guess, decrease from the market since it's... They're not gonna be selling as well as the more use... Like, the more Tron is used, the more it's burned. So TRx is deflationary, and it's going to continue to decrease in supply. And I don't know if it's still pinned on my profile, but you can definitely find it if you scroll back, or maybe I can find it and, like, repost it. But Justin did an interview with a... He's a world record Bitcoin trader. His name is CryptoFace. Maybe you guys have heard of him. Maybe you've seen him before. He goes to a lot of different crypto conferences. And he usually wears a mask and never, like, shows who he is since he's, like, very well known and a very high level trader because he's a world record Bitcoin trader, and he trades, like, tens of millions of dollars at a time. But he did an interview with Justin at the end of twenty twenty two. So it was this December 2022, and he was asking Justin on his interview, like, well, what does the future of Tron look like? And he said, with the amount of use case that we plan on bringing to the ecosystem and to the TRON blockchain, that we expect TRx to be, like, 10% deflationary every year. So every year, like, 10% of TRx, this current supply should be burning because of all the use cases on Tron. So it's not just the stablecoin transactions, which we already have $78,000,000,000 or so on Tether alone, but we're working on, like, putting real estate on the blockchain. We're becoming the national blockchain of specific countries. We already are the national blockchain of two countries, which is Dominica and Saint Martin, and we're working on talking with other governments and other countries that are even bigger to bring more value and more use cases and try and, like, bring, like I said, the real estate on the blockchain for these places as well as just, like I said, bring the mass adoption. So regardless of what Tron Incorporated does, which it's the whole purpose is to just keep buying TRx and making the demand increase, the use case of TRx being used all over the world alone is going to make it deflationary, which just by supply and demand alone should, even though I can't talk about price, logically, it should just increase the price and increase demand. [1:04:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good take. Thank you, Hunter. And I'll I'll go into maybe some some specifics really quick on, like, the shares and the warrants. But, Justice, go for it. You had a question? [1:04:32] Justice @JusteaseXBT: No. No. No. No. It's it's not a question. It's just a small contribution to, yeah, everything everyone has been seeing. Yeah. Congratulations to everyone who lost Sean and also to Sean team. And and and another perspective that I I see the old news from that, you know, would help crypto have another wave of of mass adoption is in the fact that... You know, I I I see it's... The fact that Tron is going US, right, is going to, like, the major crypto market. I... It is also a very... As much as a big win for The US users, it's also a very big win for Crypto Asia. Right? Because this is it. Either we like it or not. Asia is like... Or China specifically is like is like the leading place for technology. Right? And I do hope... With the way I see it, I do hope that maybe there's going to be some kind of crypto integration into technology and, like, you know, smart devices production and all of that. And maybe, who knows, there is going to be an involuntary adoption of crypto to the distribution of these smart devices because there is literally nowhere in the world where you wouldn't find something... A kind of, like, device or or mobile or something like a day to day technology that everyone uses that is not from China. I don't think there's any way in the world that you won't find Chinese products, like, technology wise. So maybe there is going to be that kind of inch... Integration into the... That that side of the of the industry. And, inevitably, it will spread to the world because, yeah, Tron is already in US major market, and that would also spread to US also and then to every other part of the world. So, yeah, yeah, it's it's a very good news. A very good news. [1:06:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it. Good stuff, Justice. Anybody else have any take... Hunter, anything else you wanna... Hunter, gotta give me more than announcement of an announcement, bro. Come on. Blue Origin, like, what's cooking, man? Like, give me the goods, my man. Give me something. [1:06:46] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: I mean, usually, I like to drop a lot of alpha, but on this recorded space, I can't say too much. But there is so many exciting things that are in the works. So, like, for those that did go to the Bitcoin conference or in Bitcoin Vegas or BTC Vegas itself, like, Justin was there. A lot of high level people were there. I think the guy that created Silk Road, I think he... I think it was him. Yeah. I think he just, like, got out, and then Justin gifted him the duct tape banana. And then, of course, we met with Eric Trump. The Blue Origin team was there, and that was a fantastic experience just meeting with them. And then for those that went to the conference, maybe you saw Justin's son was wearing a spacesuit, and we're walking around the conference. The camera crew is there, then they're, like, wears that spacesuit and then walks into, a Blue Origin capsule. So he's, like, getting prepared to do some fun space initiatives, like, with them. And then they ended up coming out to our Tron party, which went extremely well, and that was a great experience. But, like, all of 2025, the goal is just expand within The United States, work with some high level players, do exciting things. So whether it be with Blue Origin... Like, I'm friends with people from SpaceX as well. So we're talking about how we could potentially do something very cool with them in the future, whether it be this year or even through 2030. Like, some of the things that we have planned, they're gonna take a long time to put into place because these are very big initiatives that some of them cost hundreds of millions of dollars, but great things are in place. And then, like, I'm friends with people from, like, BlackRock, Fidelity. I think I've even mentioned it on the past call, like Visa, Mastercard. I know a lot of these people. Been friends with them for years. One of my closest friends that I've even known even before I was brought on to the Tron team, he owns the, like, the physical gold exchange for JPMorgan and for Morgan Stanley. So his vaults is where these banks, like JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, they store their gold with my friends' vaults. And I know a lot of this information, but I would say things that are happening within the industry well before they're even publicly announced, like, even, like, the genius act that is all about the stablecoin regulations. Like, I was talking with, like, friends from BlackRock and just different connections of mine about, like, what this might look like and how this might impact the industry and how things are going to change for, I would say, the better. And, like, it... It's a lot of really good exciting things. Like, regardless of what people may see in the short term, like, if there's something that's announced and it might be perceived as FUD, like what's happening right now with, like, the meme coins. Like, there's always gonna be FUD. Like, you know how many times China has banned, like, Bitcoin? Like, 50 times. I don't even know what that means. Like, they kept banning and unbanning it, but there's always random FUD. You just completely need to ignore it. If there's ever... Like, personally, this is my own advice, but if there's ever, like, a dip in the market, I just continue to buy more. I just focus on what the future looks like long term. And the biggest players in the industry, so all the big banks that used to say, don't buy crypto or, like, if you work for, like, JPMorgan, I think, or even Bank of America, they're like, if any employee gets caught buying Bitcoin, like like, we're gonna fire you. But now they're, like, doubling down. They're filing patents. They're, like, trying to create their own stablecoin. They're, like, doing everything they can. Even that one guy, think his name is Peter Schiff. Like, his son is a huge, like, crypto advocate, and even himself is. He was there. He was at Bitcoin Vegas. Like, Peter Schiff was... Like, had his own booth talking about crypto. He used to say only buy gold, but I think it was kind of just like a publicity stunt where even that one guy, Jim Kramer, like, that everybody, like, inverse trades him. [1:10:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, he [1:10:17] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: knows what he's doing. Like, he knows that when he says something is gonna happen, that the opposite happens, and he kinda just plays off of that. So a lot of things that happen within the industry, people might not even realize it, but it's kind of like just a show or entertainment. And you really just have to follow your instincts and don't necessarily go with what, like, the news is saying or what, like, these people are saying. Like, you really just have to trust your instinct. And, like, if you know Bitcoin's gonna do good, if you know the industry is gonna be fine in the long run, if you have, like, faith in a specific, like, meme coin and you like the team and you like the narrative, then, like, Huddl's strong. Like, just stay active and, like, look at where... Like, how far we have evolved over the past few years. I guess, like, the main point is is, like, all of these institutions they used to say were not interested, and they only said that so they could buy themselves time to continue to accumulate, and they were buying the dip from the FUD that they created. So they would create FUD. They would then buy the Bitcoin supply themselves. These countries are buying like crazy, and I say this on every space. And I I even speak at, like, different universities. I've spoken at Harvard, at Princeton, at MIT, and I traveled to all these different major crypto conferences. And the... I pretty much just tell everybody, like, you have to just get involved, see where the future's headed, and just, like, do not listen to the nonsense because they're they're... Like, all these big institutions, they only wanted to buy time so they could get the regulations in place to be able to, like, buy more assets themselves. And in the very... Like, in the past, there used to be a space race like, which country is gonna go to the moon first, like United States, Russia, China. And now it's literally another space race. We're trying to see who can get to the moon first, but it's cryptocurrency. Who can buy the most Bitcoin and get to the moon? And everyone's trying to become a crypto friendly hub. Miami... Like, I'm I'm from Florida, so Miami is trying to do it. Texas is trying to do it. Like, a lot of states are trying to become crypto friendly, and a lot of countries are now trying to make it legal tender and just really... They see the value. So regardless of any FUD you see on the Internet, completely ignore it. I would say just keep buying Bitcoin. Stay in the industry. Anybody that's on this space now, you're ahead of, like, 99% of the rest of the world because you are... You're actively involved in where the future is headed. You are doing the right thing. You're in the right place, and it is the right time. People always say, like, oh, I'm too late. Like, Bitcoin is over 100 k. Like, it's too late to get involved, and it's not. Because we're really just beginning. Bitcoin hasn't even begun to really show its full potential, and it's not just Bitcoin itself. The industry's evolving in so many massive ways that, like, the real estate is gonna be on the blockchain soon. Like, I don't know if anybody has heard of VeChain before, but that's like supply chain and logistics where from, like, the beginning of any material that's created or even food, like, you can track its location and how long it's been there and the temperature that it's been. Like, you'll know every detail and everything that could possibly exist will be on the blockchain, and it's gonna be so integrated within our daily life that we're not even gonna be thinking about it. It's just going to exist. And you don't even have to know how it works. It's just gonna be the back end of our society. And this is just the beginning, like, the very, very, very beginning of it. Like, even NFTs. People think that NFTs are just like monkey pictures. There's a guy, and I'll, like, say one more last story. Is... His name is William Entrekin. So if you guys look up the smart contract, which is ERC seven twenty one, ERC seven twenty one is the smart contract, which is NFTs. The lead author of that smart contract, his name is William Metrukin, and I spoke with him at Harvard to a bunch of students. And he was a young guy, very smart. I had no idea, like, he was the lead author of NFTs. But at the time, I'm like, aren't NFTs just pictures? Like, do they even have a purpose? And he's like, yes. But people look at them incorrectly. Right now, they're just funny pictures and being traded like monkeys and stuff like that. However, NFTs can be like the deed to your house, or they can, like, be proof of sale. It can be... You can buy a car. So NFTs are gonna come back bigger than ever. They're gonna be, like, the foundation of so many different things. Assets now can be dynamic where, like... I don't know if you guys have heard of SWE blockchain, but SWE is doing some very, very cool things where their tokens are completely dynamic, where you can do an airdrop and be like, okay. Well, if they're not claimed within seven days that, like, they delete themselves. Like, you can do so many different things with different chains, and it's becoming more and more evolved. There's even another blockchain called Supra where it's... Has built in oracles. And let's say you have an NFT and you live in Florida, and all of a sudden you go to... Let's say it's a Pokemon. It's like an egg. You can then go to a conference, and it's like, oh, you just showed up to Bitcoin Vegas. Now that egg hatched because it knows you're in Vegas. Or, oh, you attended this specific event at this specific time. It can, like, geolocate and do different things. Like, the blockchain is evolving in such crazy ways, which is really being connected to the world in ways that people never even thought possible, and it's really only just beginning. Deepin projects are gonna be huge. They're decentralized physical infrastructure networks where PEEK, it's called p e a q, so PEEK dot network, they're creating something called, instead of universal basic income, it's a universal basic ownership. So now instead of people wondering when, like, AI replaces all of these people, they're like, well, where are we gonna get income? With universal basic ownership, these robots that are replacing jobs, you can fractionalize ownership of these of these robots. So as they make income, whatever percentage you own, you can actually, like, receive the the profits from it. So let's say there's, like, Teslas that are self driving. If you... Even if there's nobody in those cars, they can self drive if you own some of the the peak token as the Teslas are making the profit, the company gets their profit. And then whatever you own as, let's let's say, shares, then you get some profit from that. So so there's just, like, so many different use cases that can happen within the industry that people aren't even realizing. And, like, I love this. That's why I, like, I can talk nonstop back to back to back. It's not just the coffee, but there's so [1:16:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: many good things. [1:16:46] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Yeah. Like, I... Like, I'm like, how many points did I just make? [1:16:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was gonna say how much espresso [1:16:51] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: I had five shots of espresso before this call, but the point is not the espresso. The point is is I just get so hyped thinking about it because one flaw... One thought, like, flows into another. And, like, are really just at the very beginning of this industry. It's more than just Bitcoin. It's more than just HODLing. It's not just memes. Like, everything has such a powerful use case from NFTs to the metaverse to AI. Like, every blockchain [1:17:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: about it all here, Hunter. [1:17:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right. [1:17:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's... But that that is Hunter speaking. I couldn't tell, unfortunately, because he shows listener. But I wanna say this too, Hunter. I understood every single thing that came... That you said. That doesn't that doesn't happen very often. [1:17:39] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: So my specialty is actually not being that smart, so I can only explain things easy because I don't know big words. But, like, I get very excited about this, and that's why I love it. That's why I'm so passionate about it. And even though I drink, like, coffee twenty four seven, I don't need the coffee to be energized because when I look at, like, where the space is headed, and I have all these conversations with the average person or even, like, high level banking people from, like, BlackRock, and, like, I've gone to, like, parties and meetings with billionaires. And I hear the problems that exist, and I see the solutions that are being created, and they're so powerful. And every single blockchain that exists right now, they solve different problems. And they can all be, let's say, on Tron if they needed to be, but there's so many great powerful blockchains that exist, and they can all coexist together, which is why Tron is, like, very chain agnostic. And Justin Sun himself, he has, like, hundreds of millions of dollars within Bitcoin. He's got almost as much Ethereum as it, like, the Ethereum Foundation, a ton of Ripple as well, Cardano. Like, we're big fans of every chain. Like, publicly [1:18:45] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Go hunt it. [1:18:46] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Yeah. I was gonna say publicly, it might look like people are competitors, but all of us, we all know that we're in the same industry. We're all working together, and we all just wanna make the world a better decentralized place. And we're just trying to do it in our own way, which is why all these different blockchains exist. But at the end of the day, we're all one big family in the blockchain and crypto industry, and we're doing our best to bring mass adoption. [1:19:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. Good shit, Hunter. I'm gonna let you take a breath. Landy, go for it. And if you ask a question to Hunter, I'm gonna kill you at this very moment in time, but hopefully you have [1:19:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: a copy. No. No. Just just a just a a a nice subtle suggestion for Hunter. I'd like you to go to Justin and tell him that if he does go to space on a Blue Origin rocket, that when he comes back down, let them open the door so that he doesn't crack the seal first and screw up the whole thing. Alright? So that's just my suggestion, And tell him that he needs to bring up banana to space with him. And then he can come back, and he can auction that one off for $6,000,000. So, yeah, that's really all I had to contribute to that. No. It was good stuff. Look. I mean, there's there's a lot in in this, obviously, Hunter. We're we're pretty familiar with a lot of these, concepts, which is what Metapiste was saying there, that he understood everything you're talking about because we've been talking about many of these same things for many, many, many years. And I I think, you know, I I wanted to kinda pivot just for a moment to, to a story that was a little bit earlier, and that was a lot of these accounts that are being taken down. Our friends over at Berwick Law, Max, just put out a post seizing the the seizing the moment, striking at the perfect time to to let people know. [1:20:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Max [1:20:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Berwick. I just was scrolling, and it just... I could not stop laughing. Like, man, he knows he knows when to strike. [1:20:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: He sniffs it, bro. By the way, real quick, Len, you... I I... You teed it up for me perfectly. [1:20:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Million dollars. You're getting sued by Jeff F. A.. Goddamn. 50,000,000. Yo, Hunter. You better make sure that Justin... Not that 50,000,000 is probably... You know, he could probably afford that shit. No problem. But I'm just saying 50 mil is 50 mil. You can probably help pump our bag. We could do a lot more than that. You know? But, hey, who we to question? You spent 6,000,000 on a banana, so maybe he'll do it on purpose. I have no idea, but Katy Perry is being sued for 50 mil. It is what the fuck it Hunter, good shit, man. Thank you so much for obviously coming through, bro. Like, I appreciate it. It's always great, obviously, hearing from someone directly, like, on these teams so we know exactly, like, what's going down, what's happening. And the fact that Metabee's understood everything, that means you're speaking, like, the layman's everyday language, which I always very, very much appreciate because a lot of times we get a little too technical and a little too ahead of ourselves up here to... Like, we get we get a little too fancy. But, Koma, did you have something for for Hunter before he goes? [1:21:50] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. Not... Nothing specific for Hunter, but I I will say that I am... I'm not a Tron expert by any means. But I... I've been listening to the space and learning so much, and I guess I'm pulling a landy for Infofy. But I will say I I am really, really impressed by how long Tron has not only survived but thrived because I still remember when Tron first ICO'd. And a lot of those similar, I guess, chains that ICO then, you know, they they don't exist anymore. And one of the funny jokes, throughout every cycle is that, you know, all these chains die, and then another couple of chains pop up, and all those chains die. And then those... A a couple of, chains pop up again. And, like, I still remember, like, one of these... Those older chains, like, Ants chain or something, and then I I don't even know what they do. And all these other random chains that existed then, and they were gonna be the Ethereum killers and all of those things. And, now no one even talks about it, right, like VeChain. So, super kudos to, like, the Tron team and, you know, I mean, even Justin Sun for just going... Like, thinking outside the box, right, and being able to do something like this is really, really impressive. It's definitely got my attention the more and more I come to, these spaces and, something I... I'm personally gonna have to dig into a lot more. So, yeah, I really appreciate, and I I feel like I'm learning a lot. [1:23:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Thoma. Thoma, don't worry. Those EOS bags will come back someday. [1:23:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh my god. Don't even... Yeah. [1:23:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: The EOS bags. One day. One day. Hunter, anything you wanna say? Yeah. [1:23:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, sorry. I was gonna say the funny thing is I I bet you a good chunk of the people in this space have no idea what we're talking about. [1:23:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, if you've been around for a... I mean, it's not even that long. I'm not even OG. OG. I'm twenty twenty one. Goddamn. Like, EOS. Like, I remember the EOS days. Fuck. EOS. EOS. Uh-oh. Hunter, anything you wanna leave us with before you jump, bro? Thank you again. [1:23:53] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Oh, yeah. No problem. And definitely, yeah, just one last thing about that exact point is I always tell people... Because you can go on coin market cap, and then you can, like, set the clock back and look at the history of the industry at the time. You can see how many tokens existed, and you can see, like, what the top 10, top 25 tokens were. And I remember when I first got into the industry, which was, I think, 50 doll... I don't know, like, what year it was, but the $50 got me 3,000 XRP. Like, Ripple was my very first cryptocurrency, and $50 somehow turned into $3,000. Like, it was pretty impressive what XRP did. So I got in pretty early, but I was going on coin market cap. And I remember looking at all these tokens that were, like, top 25, top 50. And EOS, I'm like, oh my god. EOS is like infinite scalability. This is the future. I saw IOTA. And Steven, he's listening into this call... The... Listening to the call as well. And I think IOTA was, like, $6. And he's like, Hunter, sell all your Ripple, put it all into IOTA. And I'm like, that's probably genius. They're obviously gonna go to rip, like, Bitcoin price. They're gonna go a thousand bucks. So, like, I lost a lot of money on that. Then Verge, if you guys remember XBG, I was debating on do I go all in on XBG or, like, all in on TRX at the time. And Tron was so cheap, and you can only buy it on Binance. I remember when I was buying all these other assets, Tron was the only thing that was so cheap that it had this dust, like, the... Such little, like, amount of Ethereum left that it kept throwing the dust into Tron, and then it started to go up a lot. I'm like, this is pretty interesting. Like, why is this going up so much? And I started to do a little bit more research, which was, like, September, October, November 2017. And I saw, like, Justin Sun's history. Like, oh, he was an apprentice of Jack Ma, and he created something called PayWo, which is, like, a similar to, like, TikTok in China. And he was Forbes 30 under 30, and he also helped Ripple launch in China. And Ripple was my first investment, and it did extremely good. So I trusted Ripple, so then I trusted, like, Tron. And I put my entire... Even though everything was in Chinese and it looked like a straight scam and, like, I had no idea what was going on, I threw my entire life savings into it. And $15,000 that I put in within, I think, two months, it turned into a $150,000. I'm like, oh, okay. That's imp... [1:26:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah? You just explained what 99% of trenchers and and [1:26:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Like, I would would percent in the trenches. [1:26:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: Perish. Like, you should have just 40 x longed it, right, with your with your life savings because that that would have been the most [1:26:23] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: So that would have been the smartest thing to do. And I... I'm still, yeah, I'm still working on since I'm from The United States. I'm trying to, like, find ways to, like, leverage trader. I used to do things with, like, a 100 times leverage. Or even before I got into crypto, I was trading in the forex market, and you could even do one one thousand leverage, which which is insane. So I was always going crazy with, like, trading and investing, but Tron became, like, my favorite just because I loved that Justin... Like, the whole point of it was to decentralize the web and give power back to the people. And he had a lot of good values, and he was doing a lot of big things. And even though there was a lot of other coins that existed on coin market cap at the time, like XBG, IOTA, SONAM, if you've heard of that. There's things that looked really popular. But for some reason, Tron really resonated with me, and I liked what Justin stood for. And that gamble played off because, like, here I am today now getting to, like, travel the world and speak on stage and work, like, directly with Justin Sun and the team and be on fantastic spaces like this. And it's been an amazing journey, but it... It's important to, I would say, get immersed within the industry itself. And even when there's losses and if you make [1:27:28] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: that Real quick. Sorry. Dave, I need to check your DMs. Sorry, Hunter. Go ahead. [1:27:31] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Yeah. No. No. You're good. [1:27:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. Yep. [1:27:33] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: I can talk 247. The point is is, like, it... It's very good to be immersed within the industry. And even when you take big losses, you really need to... Don't think of it as a loss. Think of it as a lesson. Because from my own biggest losses that I've taken, which is in the millions of dollars at this point from bad trades, I've been able to connect with some of the best of the best people in the industry. And I always say, win or learn, I never lose. And from taking these losses from, let's say, making bad trades or investments, I'll end up, like, trying to learn how to not make that mistake again. I'll get connected with amazing people like Dave, Dee, Trav, and, like, everybody on the space now. Definitely reach out anytime. But you make good connections that can take you way farther than you ever thought imaginable. But you can only get there if you make those mistakes that put you in the mindset of, okay. I need to grind a little harder. I need to do something differently to make sure that that doesn't ever happen again. So anytime a massive loss happens for me, I know something amazing is gonna come right around the corner. So I'm always excited when bad things happen because something better is right around the corner, ready for you to take advantage of. [1:28:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. Guys, real quick, Hunter. Thank you, man. I appreciate you obviously coming through, but, I... I'm just looking at this news right now. Donald Trump says, warns everyone to evacuate evacuate Tehran. He tweets out, Iran should have signed the deal. I told them to sign. What a shame and waste of human life. Simply stated, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. I said it over and over again. Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran, close quote. This is gonna be crazy. Yeah. Meta Beast, did you have something you wanted to add before before we get on? [1:29:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Meta Beast, you're on mute. Oh, because he mentioned that... But... To Hunter, yeah, he mentioned a bunch of tokens that I came across in my beginnings. I wish XLM had done, like, XRP, but what I wanted to ask is how long do you think... Or will it even be Tron on Coinbase? [1:29:34] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: You're saying how long until Tron gets listed on Coinbase? [1:29:37] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Yeah. [1:29:38] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: Great question. I mean, of course, the two billionaire CEOs are... Or at least, like, Justin, CEO of Tron. Now he's founder because he stepped down because Tron is a DAO. But But you got these two billionaires that have... They're competing in many different ways. So I guess one thing that I can mention... And, yes, we're definitely working on getting listed everywhere is the the short answer. But within the industry itself, there is three different types of wars that are happening. So there's a a stablecoin war. So it's gonna be like USDC, USDT, and then all of these other stablecoins that exist within the industry, they're trying to compete for dominance and, like, which stablecoin is gonna be the main one. So there's that. And then there is a meme coin war. So, like, different blockchains know that memes are where attention... Like, that's how you attract Web two users. It's fun. It brings a lot of people. So there's a meme war, which is happening. The thing that just happened with PumpFun, I'm not sure how long that will last, but each blockchain is trying to utilize memes to their advantage to attract new users. So there's a stablecoin war. There's a meme war. And then [1:30:42] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Are we talking... So sorry, hon. Is this a parallel universe? Are we talking about meme coin and altcoin wars when you... When Dave... And not to you, Hunter. I just can't believe Dave just, like, blossomedly say that that Trump just said what he said. They... What what, Dave? Like, would... Again, Hunter, not No. [1:31:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I was Like, [1:31:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: what what the fuck just happened? [1:31:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was teeing up the next story. I was letting Hunter finish up, but Metabies had a question. That's why I was saying that we're gonna come to that. So let let let Hunter [1:31:10] Hunter ๐น @iBeatWallStreet: No. You're... I'm actually very curious about this too. I'll just summarize it real quick. So, yes, Tron is working on getting listed on every exchange in the world to make it easy for everybody to on and off ramp. But there is... Within the industry itself, people are competing for three things, stablecoins, memes, and then AI. And we're gonna start seeing, like, AI agents and deepened projects going crazy, and we're gonna start seeing even new blockchains and new l ones, like, emerge that maybe people have not even heard of yet that are gonna be out of nowhere utilizing AI in very strong ways and being very powerful competitors. Like, there's things that are in Oncoin market cap, like, top 300 to 500. You would never think of looking at it, But the tech and the teams behind them are so powerful that out of nowhere during the next bull cycle because of the tech and what they're building is gonna be so advanced. Like, that... There's competitors that are coming up very soon that are gonna be huge players for the next bull cycle. So Stablecoin war and meme war and then AI for sure, but Tron itself, yes, we're working with every single US exchange. Our goal is to get listed. We can't say an exact timeline, but everything is in the works. We have conversations with literally everybody. It's all just a a matter of time. [1:32:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Amazing stuff. Sorry. I was just updating the title. Hunter, good shit. MetaBeast, great questions. Landy, great takes. Love all of this incredible stuff. Thanks for stopping by, Hunter. I appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For real. Good shit. Guys, this news is absolutely fucking wild. So, yes, Empress, let's get back to... Let let... Let's get back to this. Trump literally saying, Iran... Let let me pin this. Did you pin it up? Alright. Let me pin this up. Donald Trump says Iran should have signed the deal. I told them to sign. What a shame and waste of human life. Simply stated, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. I said it over and over again. Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran. Empress, what's your take on this? Like, given this... Obviously, like, this is... I mean, that was twenty seven minutes ago. What kind of an effect is this gonna have now on on these markets on just in... I mean, just in general right now. You're telling Tehran to evacuate. It's a fucking capital city. It's crazy. What do you think? [1:33:26] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I I I... I'm more... I I I need to hear Landy's... Somebody said something that... That's bothering the fuck out of me. Like, are are we gonna end up at at a draft, Landy? Like, what what are we, No. Thank you. No. We're not [1:33:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: gonna end up in a draft. No. First of all, the markets don't give a flying crap about this right now. [1:33:46] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I don't think... Crypto seems to be surviving all this, doesn't it? Like, I don't know. [1:33:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: And... Yeah. And traditional markets don't care either. If this was look, the markets are paying very little attention to this. Most, I mean, outside of investment, into the defense sector, which was already starting to round out a bottom well before anything started to kick off. And then, obviously, players in the game know know what's going on. They monitor things, especially if you're a defense contract corporation, you'll do... You know you know, there's there's outlooks and statements that were being made out of them even as far back as the end of the first quarter regarding Iran as... And and this was all on the heels of the conflict in Russia and Ukraine still kind of tenuous. And and even though they've agreed to talks, they're still striking each other. And then, obviously, the Israel Gaza stuff and and all of the things that led up to that. Obviously, Iran was going to be a target at some point. It was just a matter of whether or not it was gonna kick off. Iran... [1:34:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. What do you mean by that? Iran was gonna be a target at some point. [1:35:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Iran was gonna be a target due to the... Due to... The deadline. Right? He gave us [1:35:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: sixty days. [1:35:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. This was this was different. Okay. There's a few different factors here. Israel has maintained since the beginning of their conflict with Gaza that [1:35:21] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, no. I meant backed it. I know that. But are... I meant by America? Are you saying by America was gonna be a target? Okay. That's why I was getting confused. [1:35:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. No. No. So I... And, honestly, I don't think that... We'll we'll find out we'll find out if if there is gonna be any direct action from the United States military. But the the... Iran pretty much swatted away Trump's olive branch. You know, when he was doing his Middle East tour, he talked about negotiating with Iran. And this actually surprised and angered a lot of people in the West. And, you know, I think that, the administration's pushed there. They tried right up until there was an announcement, like, two weeks ago or something like that where Iran essentially was like, no. We're gonna do what we're gonna do, which is essentially swatting the olive branch away, most likely because of the demands that Trump wanted to place on any kind of, negotiations. Right? And now that there is, of course, Israel striking into Iran, you know, the natural progression of that that many have speculated is that, they're they're trying to pull in The United States. That still remains to be seen because as far as the public knows, a lot of, military bases and operations that were occurring in and around that area were were pulling back before the strikes. So, you know, we... We'll see if there is any direct action or any kinetic action from The United States. I'm almost guarantee you that there is, there is indirect action, that The United States is participating in, including, cyber and and intel and stuff like that. But we'll see if there's any kinetic action because this is, you know, fairly strongly worded, but still vague, tweet. It's almost as if, like, saying... To me, the way it reads now is, like, we're we're not even gonna try and stop this. You're screwed. Israel's just gonna just gonna keep, keep throwing Volleys at you. Right? It remains to be seen, and I think we have to suss out over the next twenty four hours whether or not we find any reports of US, action as well. That does change the game a little bit because of the China, Russia, Iran kinda tenuous throughput of capital and some other things that are happening in the region, obviously, because there is a geo... Geopolitical link between the three and then also in in terms of how the Ukraine and and Russia conflict has gone. And now that is kind of forming into, of course, Israel and Palestine and now Iran. So something to definitely monitor. We'll see. I think it would be a very big deal if we see kinetic action. When I say kinetic action, that is US forces firing into Iran and or putting ops on the ground. [1:38:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Yeah. Empress. [1:38:27] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Mandy, this is why I wanted you to go first. Hi, Mandy. Hi. Hi. Mandy. [1:38:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know I can't you know I can't talk about something. [1:38:38] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I know. But But it doesn't mean that I can't make your optics look bad as you try to clean up after everything as you usually do with your fucking spin. What the... Are you telling me as you caveated with his little stipulations? Don't talk to me about some goddamn olive branch that we fucking offered Iran, which was completely performative. Everything that this guy has done has been with the Zionist agenda. And I wanna clarify to anybody listening, I am not anti Semitic. I am not I am not anti Zionist, whatever else. But the reality is there is a power base, and Trump is clearly, as he's trying to deport anybody who is acting against any Jewish sentiment, he is clearly in bed with a certain faction of people. So saying anything that he performatively did with Iran is recalculous. How we are prettying up the speech when we know that man is completely... He should not be He's like an NFT founder. He should not be allowed to speak on his own. He should have somebody filter the shit that comes out of his mouth like every other NFT founder. And he absolutely wrote, they will not be allowed to have a nuclear bomb. Like, we all know that isn't just like, oh, here's your warning because I'm speaking for Israel. I mean, the fuck. And, actually, can you explain to me on his campaign promises, like, the big things, like, the mass deportations, and now the... We're pulling all of our troops out of all these wars and conflicts. We're good with Russia, but we're arming Ukraine to the teeth, and now we're potentially getting into this war. What the fuck? Okay. I'm done. [1:40:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Okay. So real quick. ATC, all things crypto. Empress, wanna give you the platform to be able to, like, shout it from the rooftops, but also don't wanna go off track at the end of the day and and kinda go down the political route. Landy, I'm sure you and Empress can find many many another forum to, be able to have a... To to have that debate. But, yeah, unless there's... Obviously, look. It's big news. You know, everyone's gonna be watching and monitoring closely. I'm also kind of focused. How are people getting BankerBot to check them in is what I wanna know. I was not informed that this is actually working. So, like, somebody fill me in on how BankerBot is checking people in. Please let me know. Anything else that we missed on the timeline? I... This this hour and a half literally flew by. Anybody... Anything else that we missed maybe on the timeline? MetaBeast. Guys, don't forget tomorrow. We have all on board is episode three. We have the IP episode with WagMe and Futureverse, me, Buildo, miss Gex. We got Collectors Up that's gonna be on with us. No credits. Shout out to you. No credits are gonna be on with us. The Candy Digital Squad. So definitely tune in to that one. Anything that we missed, guys? Anybody? [1:41:23] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I just assumed they were checking in because it's something you brought up and whether it got created or not. I haven't heard either. Or maybe they were just hoping it would get created and start doing it. I don't... I'm not a 100% sure, but I wonder why as well. [1:41:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: That'd be... It's actually said, good morning. Checked you in to to get right down there. So it's like... And then Dave tries to... It's like, I don't know what you're talking about, Dave. [1:41:48] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I keep forgetting to do it. I did... I checked in one, but you have to check out too. Right? [1:41:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: But it's also it's also... It also checked in Shiv, I think. It said, hey, Shiv. You're checked in. GM. Maybe you have... Like, Kilroy put up a good point... Ken put up a good point where it's like, maybe you need to have... I need to check. I think I do have it in my wallet. You need to have the actual NFT, like, POAP in your banker wallet, which I assume everyone use banker to mint. If not, maybe just move it in there, but I'm gonna test that out. [1:42:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But Which NFT? Which f... Which NFT? [1:42:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: The POAP for... That that was minted last week that we... That that I put up every single day. You remember? No? [1:42:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. And I... For some reason, I couldn't get it, or I don't remember exactly why what happened. But... Yeah. [1:42:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. We'll we'll we'll we'll chat about it. Let me let me see. Let me work some stuff in the background. But, actually, really quick, Chai, what's good, bro? If y'all know, Chai, like, thank you, number one, for the alpha last time that literally got me paid a thousand bucks just by adding a fucking contract address into an old wallet. So I appreciate you. Tai, anything else? And you know that we we make space for the capybara is now, you know, coma set the standard. Tai, what's good? [1:43:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tai, mind you fell asleep. It is what it is. Tai, it's okay. [1:43:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: His eyes are closed. So That's [1:43:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: true. All fairness, yeah, that's true. He is sleeping. Okay. Good stuff. We made it through day one. No cool crypto. I hope Cole is enjoying his time in Jamaica. Cole, I hope you're enjoying time with the fam and that you're not in the grease trap. But, Landy, thank you. Appreciate you. Meta Beast, appreciate you. Empress as always [1:43:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hi, Ted. Hi, Ted. All time high, just so you know. [1:43:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hi, Ted. Let's go. Empress also sent me a link today, and I'm like, yo. Is this payback? And she started laughing. It told me connect my wallet. I'm like, oh, this is it. This is it, kids. No. She told me to get my ass on the hyperliquid, and I gotta start doing a little more homework. So good shit. Sunny d, Trav. Thank you, man. Good shit on the news. I'm happy to see it paying off for you guys. Avi Justice and everybody else that tuned in, man. Appreciate y'all, and we will see y'all back same time. [1:43:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I said I wouldn't say it, but if you know, you know. [1:44:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you very much. Just read his PFP. We out. Deuces. Shit. I can't even mute you guys. I gotta go real quick like this.
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