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Episode ยท Jun 23, 2025

All Things Crypto: $WELSH ANON FOUNDER IDENTIFIED

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The show celebrated Kool @koolcryptovc's return from vacation while diving into the accelerating institutional adoption of Bitcoin, with numerous companies adding BTC to their balance sheets following the MicroStrategy blueprint. Panelists discussed TradFi increasingly overlapping with crypto through stablecoins, reverse mergers, SPACs, and protocols like Hyperliquid. Market volatility was viewed as an opportunity for traders, while geopolitical news was largely dismissed as theater that failed to derail crypto's upward momentum. The conversation also covered InfoFi strategies, airdrop farming on platforms like Magic Newton and Sideline AI, meme coin liquidity management on Hyperliquid, and a major controversy on Stacks involving the anonymous founder of $WELSH being linked to Philip from Arcadeeco. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

On the mic
DaveKoolLandyKkomaSamaraSunny DMetaBeast
Chapters
Kool's return from Jamaica and panel chaos during his absence
Bitcoin hitting $98k downside target and current market volatility
Institutions aggressively adding Bitcoin to balance sheets
Justin Sun / TRX Inc style moves now appearing with BNB
TradFi and crypto becoming indistinguishable via stablecoins and reverse mergers
Empress on TradFi invading crypto and the closing window for good entries
Hyperliquid as a TradFi-friendly playground and using meme coins for liquidity
Geopolitical tensions (Iran/Israel) dismissed as theater with markets pumping
Token launch timing, trend reversals, and current market conditions
Recap of major InfoFi / attention economy space with Samara, Coma and Kool
Magic Newton airdrop, tokenomics, and Jeet culture
$WELSH anon founder drama and connection to Philip / Arcadeeco on Stacks
Circle market cap surpassing USDC and stablecoin momentum
SPACs, warrants, FoldApp, and asymmetric TradFi opportunities in crypto
InfoFi protocols to farm and Monad as lower-labor alternative
Creator.bid, Virtuals Protocol, and agent meta discussion
Katana pre-deposits, CAT token distribution, and Telegram Stars/monetization
Women in crypto, catfish accounts, value vs attention farming
Stacks community fallout from Welsh situation and protocol fundamentals
Transcript
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# All Things Crypto: $WELSH ANON FOUNDER IDENTIFIED | 2025-06-23 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1lDGLzoByVmxm | status: approved
# Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed.

[0:00:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Otherwise, it's stuck in my head, but now you will have to deal with it.
[0:00:42] Kkoma @itskkoma: Laco, you know that you do jam.
[0:00:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And, yeah, I see you too.
[0:00:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: What about Backstreet, bro? Shout out, Billy. Backstreet Boys, baby. Go back.
[0:02:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: No more shenanigans. You understand? Pulls back. Fucking around over here.
[0:02:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I see you, sweet cheeks. That... That's not handled. The record, that's not handled.
[0:03:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't understand what's happening.
[0:03:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: Can you stop it?
[0:03:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guess who's back? Alright. Cool. I'm so happy to see you, bro. You have no idea what they did to me last week, bro. It was fucking... It was a nightmare, man. They ate me for breakfast. All of them, bro. I I couldn't get a second. How are you, cool? You look great. You look sloppy as ever. I'm so happy.
[0:03:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. What's up, guys? You guys are doing okay. I'm back. I'm back. Yeah. I am back. I'm back. Hope you guys are doing okay. I'm back, man. That was was fun. Well, I I definitely... I missed you guys, though. It was, it was weird, man, because being hosting a show for every day for the past year and a half, no breaks, it felt weird, man. But I kept I kept the phone away as much as I could, I still was clicking still, though. But, yeah, happy to be back. So let's go. Let's go. I'm ready. Landy, what's up? Empress was going on justice. I see everybody here. Hope you guys doing okay. Dave, what's up? How you guys doing?
[0:04:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: We miss you, man. We miss you, man. We're happy to have you back, bro. I guess I'm ordering this fucking... On this, you know, on this panel over here. It was a total shit show last week. It was ridiculous. Nobody was listening to the teacher. It's like I was a substitute teacher. Cool. You know, like, when the one that wheels the VCR in, and it's like, okay, everybody. And you're like, oh, fuck. And then they just throw shit at you, and it's like, fuck.
[0:04:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: It's crazy when you leave the class unattended to handle your WagMe shit. I mean, it's wild.
[0:04:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, listen, Kent. Are you not adults? As the teachers would say, are you not grown adults? You're 17 years old or 18 years old. I don't understand. A watch a movie.
[0:04:52] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'm a DJ.
[0:04:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Doesn't matter. You can't use both. It's not both sides. Anyways, cool. It's good to have you back, my bro. I'm glad vacation was... Vacation was good, though. Like, you had a good time with the fam. Everything was good?
[0:05:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. It was good. Was good. No complaints. Yeah. To make it hot, nice nice weather, nice people, good music, good food. Very relaxing, so it was good.
[0:05:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Beautiful. Do you fast on vacation cool or no?
[0:05:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: No, bro. I was, no. No. Don't... That that makes no sense. You... Your vacation, you eat whatever you want. You go wherever you want,
[0:05:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: and just...
[0:05:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm I'm I'm I'm actually I'm actually fast enough. That's funny you say that. That only I eat. I'm actually fast enough. No food. No water. It's been, like, fourteen hour. Don't know. But I'm I'm I'm about to go get some food, though. So... Yeah. But I'm gonna I'm gonna go... Let... On on on this show, bro. On this show, let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
[0:05:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nothing nothing about cool. That's enough. Although you guys did see his fucking flex, and he was like, yo. Just FYI, I spent the week in Jamaica, and I still kept my fucking rankings, bitches. I'm still at the top of this leaderboard. I'm still at the top of that leaderboard. You see him flexing fucking like a... Like the bane that he is. Alright. On with the show. Landy, what's good, bro? I'm dying over here. So what's up, Dave?
[0:06:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's up, Cole? It's great to have you back, man. Shout out to Empress and Sunny d, Metabeast Justice. It's good to see everybody. Look. It's it's it's been a day. It's been a day. It's been a week. It was definitely a week. Last week was a week in the year of 2025. That is for sure. So, you know, I'm just taking a look at markets. They hit my... One of my first downside targets at $98,000 for Bitcoin, and some altcoins that I've been looking at for a while hit some of my downside targets. We'll see if markets can recover and get back into an uptrend, but
[0:06:44] Samara @thee_samara: other than
[0:06:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: that be licking your fucking chops right now, bro. Like, I'm looking at the chart today, and I'm like, oh my god. Landy literally must be like a pig in shit right now. No? With this volatility. Absolutely.
[0:06:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because the the fun part is is after the lower highs came in, it was a clear area for traders in the market to go short. So we got to ride shorts down for the past, you know, almost two weeks now, and we get a nice zone of interest hit. Get to take the trades, their preliminary trades. We'll see if it actually turns into a bigger swing trade for a lot of people in the market. But so far, you know, this is this is actually fun times. When things are going sideways, it sucks. And we've had a lot of sideways followed by very big moves up and then more sideways for extended period of time, then big moves up. And now it's starting to get more volatile within a range, so it's perfect for traders. I know that it freaks everybody else out in the market, but, you know, I mean, if you're in this for the long game, it's opportunity. That's all it is.
[0:07:50] Kkoma @itskkoma: I love it, man. Yeah, man.
[0:07:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: The the... I mean, looking at Bitcoin prices, it's just all over the fucking place, but I... Well, it just reclaimed a 104 after dipping below a 100. I mean... And there's volume out here. Cool. You came back right at the perfect time, bro. Good shit. Sunny d, what's good, my bro? New PFP. What what what what you got?
[0:08:11] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I'm enjoying the nice feature that my glowing w provides me with the ability to swap my PSP without losing my check mark.
[0:08:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ah, another benefit to the fucking Infofycartel. Suck it, Empress. You see, there are tons of benefits at the end of
[0:08:31] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: the day. I've had a
[0:08:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: bad shit something.
[0:08:33] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: To my world.
[0:08:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shit. Whatever. And you're like, no. Be careful because if you do... I like it, Sunny. I I didn't even think about it. I totally forgot about that, where it's like, you get to switch your room.
[0:08:44] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yep. Whenever you want. But this is actually an NFT, a playable character within one of the games on Tron. And we just did a GameFi space on Tron earlier today. So I was just like, hell, I'm gonna just take advantage of this nice little feature. So let's go.
[0:09:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. Good shit, Sunny d. Appreciate it, man. Meta Beast, what's good?
[0:09:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Hello, fellow panel speakers. Hope everyone's well. Cool. Great to have you back. People missed their daily dose of co q ten. Definitely was noticeable.
[0:09:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I guess I'm way... I... I'm just waiting on my l badge since I don't get a w. And Labooboo.
[0:09:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Laboobooboob. Fucking Laboob. We're not gonna go down that route. Listen. Millie solved this puzzle for Jay Yabs. It's gotta be, like, an email issue or something that you fucked up when you entered the... What's it called? Or... Just get in my DMs, bro. And just let me know, like, what, like, what exactly we need to do. What?
[0:09:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Will do. Okay. Yep. I got I got the email. It it just... It stops at a certain point, and nothing happens. So I'll I'll get with you then. Thanks.
[0:10:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: You must be the jankiest of MacBooks and the jankiest of Hollywood's. Believe you me. I know that Although
[0:10:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: it's not a MacBook.
[0:10:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shit. My fault. Damn. I wasn't gonna go that low. Alright. Good shit. Justice, what's good?
[0:10:15] Voice J: Yo. Yo. Yo. What's up, everyone? Good evening, GM GM. Wherever the time is, hope everyone is doing well. I shout out today for the alpha space day with WagMeUp and Warden protocol. You know, that space was there. I just went out of the space, and I was seeing post about it. I was like, you you are making movements in this in this space, man. So, yeah, shout out to you, Dave. Welcome back, Ku. Ku went there, and we were in the trenches on the city. And Ku was was in Jamaica, enjoying the bodies and the vibes and the weather and the water and everything. Yo. I I want to be, like, cool when I grow up, man. So when everybody is suffering in the trenches, I want to go to Jamaica and go have go and have the time of my life. But, yeah, anyways, it's all good.
[0:11:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: So we still have a shot. He buys a new house, like, every month. So, like, we're still hoping that he kinda just has a charitable, like like, that charitable bone. And he's like, you know what? Fuck it. Let me
[0:11:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: just move ATC. Let me
[0:11:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: just make the ATC house and just shoves us all in there. You know
[0:11:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: what I mean?
[0:11:24] Voice J: Yo. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. So, yeah, shout out to everyone. Shout out to everyone.
[0:11:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: And let's try
[0:11:29] Voice J: this thing. Yeah.
[0:11:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Justice. I appreciate you. Yeah. For those that don't know, like, that WagMe Hub space that I held, Samara... I don't know. He's not here. But Samara came up and fucking schooled. I mean, when I say schooled an entire panel of, like, info fi, attention fi, like, cookie dough was up there. Like, we don't... We we were talking yaps, snaps, and fucking quacks, and he was just like, you guys can't do this. You can't do this. You can't do that, and you shouldn't be doing this. And if I don't know what the fuck the platform is supposed to do or how the algorithm works, how am I supposed to succeed? And I was like, goddamn. I love this fucking guy right now. This is incredible fucking content. I mean, it was great, but everything he said was right on point. You could tell who the fuck wasn't paying attention to. I like, what do you think about this? And they're like, oh, well, we think that Let me fucking stop. I need to chill. It's Monday only. Fuck. Empress, what's up?
[0:12:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Not much. I love vans.
[0:12:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm a... I'm also a van fan.
[0:12:30] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Just wanted to tell you.
[0:12:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: A van a van fan?
[0:12:33] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Mhmm. Fan fan of Vans. I also heard that if meta bees can't get you via DMs, you should hit two apart on the timeline just just to add to a lot. That's what I heard.
[0:12:44] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: I'm sorry. What?
[0:12:45] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: What? Yeah. As if
[0:12:47] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: It's the meta.
[0:12:48] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I give them one minute. Right?
[0:12:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Listen. We're all listening. So, Landy and Embers, if you wanna give the public apology that you owe to every fucking individual for that fucking space last night, that I don't know how I know this ball is see what they
[0:13:01] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: have been Are you ready for it?
[0:13:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh god. Here it comes. Uh-huh. No. No. Landy's supposed to give me
[0:13:06] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: a chance. I got I got you. Hi. Welcome to CT. It is a consent to play air arena. In any space that you enter, you are welcome to hit the upper right hand leave button at any given time if you don't like what you're hearing. Please feel free to go fuck yourself if you don't enjoy the content. Thank you. Come again.
[0:13:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: But I fell asleep with it in my ear. I wasn't by choice. Like, I was tired.
[0:13:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Fuck. Anyways,
[0:13:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: just don't do that again.
[0:13:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I apologize for nothing.
[0:13:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? They were chewing. They were eating you alive with, like, the most ridiculous statistics ever.
[0:13:42] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'm You're the reason that the ends exist, Dave. You're the reason vans exist.
[0:13:47] Samara @thee_samara: My brain does.
[0:13:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: He only stayed away for that one part.
[0:13:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Little did Empress know that I'm literally cutting and paste. I'm like, Landy, this is erotic. They're... It's factually wrong, bro. Like, don't let them get away with this. Anyways And then you dipped. Yeah. I was like, fuck this. I was like, no. Didn't see
[0:14:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: that till
[0:14:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: we end this Yeah. You gotta love it. But... Alright. Let's get into the news because there is a ton of stuff. Ken, I'll say what's up. Bulu, what's good? I wanna get into these news and these new stories, so we'll work it in. There is tons of foot... Like, every other story is, like, almost has, like, headline worthy stories out here, man. But I titled it when institutions ate harder than degens. We are seeing... I mean, the blueprints have been laid from the meta planets that are... That started the whole... Let's fucking put as much Bitcoin on our balance sheet. It doesn't matter how fucking broke we are or how close to bankruptcy we are. If we buy Bitcoin, maybe this will actually do something. And then you go from two... You actually are able to fucking raise money via debt, like, to the tune of $300,000,000, and now you have a billion dollars in Bitcoin. Yeah. That's a blueprint, and now everybody is following suit. I mean, left and right, you're literally seeing people put more and more and more... Some of these institutions put more and more Bitcoin on their balance sheets.
[0:15:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Let's go
[0:15:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: fucking.... Doing?
[0:15:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's go fucking. You know what else they're doing? Remember the Justin Sun trade or or the Justin Sun move rather, TRX Inc, Sunny d? Did you guys see the BNB news today as well? They're now they're now doing the same exact thing with a $100,000,000 with fucking BNB. And they're gonna back it in, and they're gonna say, this is what we're gonna do with BNB. Like, oh, hello. Where is that? Where is that coming from? Well, I don't have another phone.
[0:15:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: The call's coming from inside the house, Dave.
[0:15:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's coming from inside the house. Anyways, long story short, like, they're... Like, Wall Street and the TradFi world is now putting on Bitcoin heavy. Every other story I read today was how this one plans to raise this much and put this much on the balance sheet. Raise this much, put that much on the balance sheet. Cool. You were gone a week, and I'm telling you, bro, like, that week, there was some... I'm not even kidding. Like, it's like everyone's, like, a switch and everyone's, like, head flipped, and it was like, that's it. We gotta... Like, it's operation Bitcoin. Get it on the balance sheets now. Welcome back, bro. Led, do you wanna chime in first real quick and then we'll go to cool?
[0:16:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's a beautiful thing to see. And I know that it's not exactly what many of the Bitcoin Maxis wanted to see even though the same ones that claim that their Bitcoin Maxis are the ones that are selling their coins to the institutions. It's a beautiful thing to see. We knew this was gonna happen. It was just a matter of time, and seeing it happen now is is not really that surprising. Right? It's it's only gonna accelerate more and more and more, And it's gonna happen with Ethereum. It's gonna happen with all of these reverse mergers and companies. It's gonna... It... Crypto is is is infiltrating the traditional market system. And before you know it, it's gonna be indistinguishable but... Indistinguishable between the two, especially with all of the all of the different players, that are going to be likely announcing that they're getting into stablecoins. So this is the next iteration, and, they might as well get the the asset side of the balance sheet bulked up, because the Genius Act doesn't prohibit you from backing and overcollateralizing. So that's what you're gonna start to see, and that's gonna be the attractiveness behind it. And there's gonna be some more interesting things, I think, that are gonna be revealed here very soon, And we're just kinda waiting for legislation to pass, and the prep is now. And and those who are not prepping now are gonna be behind the ball, and they're gonna be be FOMO ing in.
[0:17:56] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, man. I can't wait to
[0:17:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: make you guys fucking eat the crow on the USDC circle fucking news. It's literally, like, circle path. You said stablecoins, and I'm like, circle market cap has literally passed USDC market cap as crazy as that fucking sounds. And we were like, no. We wanna hop off in the beginning. If y'all are gonna tell me this is still the beginning, you better hold on. But, cool. It's Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin everywhere, bro. Talk to me.
[0:18:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. I'm not I'm not surprised, man. We've been we've been saying this for a long time, so this is not this is not a surprise at all. I think it's it's it's it's it's it's it's a... It's what they say about how, you know, you know, first day, hates you, then they fight you, then you win right now. It's a winning season right now, man. So... But I'm not surprised, though. But it's it's good to see, man, but but I do agree, Mandy. This is just a a a a... An adoption by them, which is gonna probably bleed into all points eventually. But, yeah, they've seen... I mean, we we saw this. Right? We've had... When Ukraine, you know, got invaded by Russia, we've had, you know, the the the war, you know, with with with Israel and and and a mask or whatever. But... And now we have, the whole Iran and Iraq and Iran, US, and Israel stuff going on. And we we... In the midst of all this stuff, Bitcoin has been doing very, very well, Maurice, which is fascinating to see. And I think this is this is why they won access to this thing now. Even though they had access to it or they had the chance to get in it, you know, at at... Well, 9 k or 10 k or even cheaper, but it is done very, very, very well, man, based on, you know, if if you look at all the all the shares going on in in in... You were all the worst government right now. So it... It's going very, very well, I think. But it's gonna continue. I think, eventually, the opportunity to make money of Bitcoin might be diminished, and they... They're gonna start looking at all their asset, which I think probably the the the big job, the Solana and and, you know, the Chainlink and the VNB and the Tron and and E. So this is big, man. This is big, but I just... I'm not surprised, man. I'm not even... I don't ever... You guys may have recently talked about this stuff because I'm not... We've been talking about this shit for the past year year year and a half. This was bound to happen, but it's just... If you bought Bitcoin early, you're golden. If you don't have enough Bitcoin, just be patient. Your time is coming, but it's it's just cool to see that we were right. We were right all these years and, you know, you know, and we're we're we're very fruit of our labor right now. So it's good to see, man. Good to see.
[0:20:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Empress, you don't think now is the best time to be buying Bitcoin?
[0:20:37] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. When I think that's the 37...... Crypto's invading TradFi, and I think TradFi's invading crypto.
[0:20:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's one and the same. It's one. I was gonna say. Yeah. Half full, half empty type deal? Like, you wanna make the case on prison or no?
[0:20:55] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. I... Nah. We're just seeing it. It... It's just like... I told Mandy, if we start seeing spaces full of suits like Cardone, I'm just gonna start bullying motherfuckers. Like, it's just... It's the reality. Like, I... People need to understand this is the death rattle for the haves and the have nots. Like, you need to be positioning. You need to be smart in the place that you're making, and you need to be growing what you can. Like, that's the way it is. Like, there there are entries still that you can be... And and I'm not talking about crap meme coins. Like, there... Even if it's a... You're... Like, again, I hate this. I hate that I have to keep saying this. You're still early enough that a small position in a smart investment and a good crypto product could pay dividends in the future, but, like, you need to be taking up these positions and choosing wisely where you're putting your money, instead of squandering it because that window is closing for when those really good assets are going to be out of your reach. Like, for a lot of you, Bitcoin is out of your reach, but, like, there's alternatives. Like, people up here, they're gonna cringe. But, like, the stacking DAO, like, being able to buy some stocks and put it there and and accumulate Bitcoin in real time is one of your options. CODI, which is a confidentiality coin. There there are things that you can be buying. And and when you don't have that capital at these higher market caps, paying attention to... Because the... I'm seeing these poll posting for meme coins, and, like, that's a hell of a gamble when this window is closing as these TradFi movers are coming in. That's all I'm saying.
[0:22:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: And, Chris, 66% of your hyper liquid bros are short. 66% of the top traders on hyper liquid are short. What am I looking for on hyper liquid? If I'm not buying Bitcoin, you're telling me to go to hyper liquid usually. What am I doing?
[0:23:03] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I mean, I I don't I don't know what that means. I don't I don't speak trad fi, so our short... I I I legitimately, like, I don't know what that means.
[0:23:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, can you translate?...
[0:23:15] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Does that mean, Landy?
[0:23:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're taking a bet on the market going down.
[0:23:20] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, okay. Well, good for them. I don't know. Like, he... Here's the thing. Like, for me, believe it or not, as TradFi is coming in, and maybe Landy can attest to this, Hyperliquid is a very TradFi oriented market in my estimation. But that said, it's accessible for... It's like TradFi for dummies in my mind, way that it's set up over there, and it's a lot of protocols and staking. And so it goes to my point of the ability to put an... A small amount of money into these. Like, there's a lot of seed rounds and things that are going on over there and opportunities, and Bitcoin liquidity has moved in over there and vaults. So it's it's that type of thing that is going on. And and, again, if you are in need of playing meme coins... I... I'm writing a thread today. I'll tell you guys transparently. I had an in real life situation happen. I lost all of my liquidity. I had the option of pulling from my conviction place, and I don't want to. But currently, I have no liquid. So I'm pulling dust to get quick liquidity, and what I'm doing with that dust, I've already turned point o three soul into point two hype, and I'm playing the point two hype in the meme coins. And I've already turned point two hype into 1.5 hype over there in the meme coins. So I'm growing that position thing only because I don't wanna pull from my conviction place because, like, they... That's... I don't wanna risk everything for that one thing. So if you are doing that quick liquidity thing that you have to do with meme coins, I I would be doing it over on hype for sure. I think it's a safer playground. But... Yeah. I mean, you just... There... There's a lot of things that you could be doing that are way smarter than trying to play that soul casino. But I also still say, like, what... If I hit seven hype, I'm still gonna put three hype into a a position versus trying to keep rolling that through meme coins and risk getting rents because that... TradFi to me is at my heels and is going to make it prohibitive to to play with the big boys. And I don't wanna I don't wanna get priced out.
[0:25:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: How hype are you, Empress? Are you hype or super hype or double hype?
[0:25:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. Come on back. Oh, man. What an entrance, on. Whoo. Nailed it.
[0:25:56] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Not to be a not to be a Debbie Downer, but, yeah, this was, like, pretty scary this morning because my my friend is living in Qatar, and he was sending me videos of, like, actual missiles, like, coming in. So I just... I was like, holy shit. This is insane. Like, is World War three gonna start? And then next thing you know, like, all of the markets are green. So I was like, something doesn't make sense to me. Someone make it make sense to me. And then I see Trump saying, basically, they sent missiles. We knocked them down, and now we're having peace. Like, I think I'm living in a simulation at this point,
[0:26:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: and Bro. Bro. Comma. Comma. Every... Everything... As I said, it's it's like you said, like, you you can't believe what you see on the news. You can't believe what you see. It's... Everything is fake, man. I just... Look. I just think... My my friends...
[0:26:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
[0:26:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm not saying I'm not saying... Look. They they warned The US they're gonna get shot... Shoot them down early. They warned them. Like, they knew that they're they're gonna shoot down or or attack The US bases. Same thing with with with, the the attack on Iran. Iran Iran actually warned... I'm sorry. The US, I I... They warned the Iranians in advance before they they they looped... Not looped, but they dropped bombs in there. All this stuff is is all... Is is is is theater, man. It really is. I think it's seriously... It's just crazy.
[0:27:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's a different tune?
[0:27:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, take another victory lap, my boy. But sorry. Go ahead,.
[0:27:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I was just I was just thinking it was just pretty crazy just from a, like, a personal friend perspective going through that because it's it's just insane. Like, we... I know we live in a world where it's, like, price go up, you know, everything go green. But, you know, I just can't imagine just, having a missiles, like, launched over my head wherever I live in California. But, anyways, on some positive news, maybe we should have, you know, maybe Amplify should have won today. Bro. So great.
[0:27:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't go there. Don't go there,. Don't go there. No.
[0:27:56] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm so bullish, man. We... Maybe maybe in a couple days, though. Let's do it.
[0:28:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I hope so, bro. Like, the market is fucking pumping right now. Like, this is like $1.80. Oh my god. I mean, it's crazy. Like, legit. Like... And if you guys remember, like, this is not the first time we've had this conversation. Right? Like, this is not, like, the first book of the trend that we were talking about. Right? And, Lamy, I asked you in the DMs yesterday. I'm like, know, school me to this stuff. Like, what do people wait for? Because it's like, alright. The market conditions suck, and it's like, okay. But do you launch now? Or it's like trend reversal. Seems like a pretty fucking strong trend reversal right now. Like, how does it actually work? You know what I mean?
[0:28:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: So when I'm advising and have... I don't advise anymore in this realm. But when I was advising for token launches, the main thing that I would look for and tell them to look for is a downtrend. If it's if it's in a downtrend, one, you're either launching into an uptrend where everybody's, you know, super excited, and you're gonna have a longer you're gonna have a longer period of higher volume for trading. Right? Whereas in a downtrend, that condenses... That window condenses a lot for for that volume because everybody's just looking to make money and get out and then sit on the sidelines and wait the market to go back up. So in this case, we need to see a downtrend break and then come back down for a trend reversal setup because we're still in a downtrend. Even though it was a beautiful buyback off of a key level, that that, is positive, we need to see a downturn break, and then it's always gonna form an uptrend, if it's going to be bullish. Right? So if it's gonna... If you break the downtrend, you get the trend reversal set up, and then that's usually... It doesn't guarantee that it's going to revert trend. But if it's gonna be bullish and the outlook is bullish from there, then that's usually the place that you wanna be when you're launching because then you're launching into a reversal of trend, and then it's still got some less to it. Whereas many, you know, that we saw that we're launching up near the one ten, you know, one twelve region, they... As soon as the market turned around, they dumped out horribly. Right? And that was just in one candle even though it spiked the highs again. Right? So that's where, this is a beautiful buyback, but we still have to wait and see, and it does take time for price action to develop. I mean, $10.09 would be a trend break, and then you look for higher lows. That would be your trend reversal if we get higher lows from there. That's the setup. And then you look for confirmation. It's usually a safer place to launch than in a downtrend because we already see the way that... It doesn't matter if it's an NFT market, the meme coin market, or if it is, big news when in a downtrend on major tokens. It doesn't matter. The the volume spread is almost cut in half or even down to a quarter in terms of how long that volume lasts. So that's that's usually the general advice, but, you know, it was a beautiful buyback. It was beautiful buyback.
[0:31:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great. The shit to continue.
[0:31:12] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Breaking news. Breaking news. Rock coin is coming. They have a whole two
[0:31:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: Wait what?
[0:31:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: They have
[0:31:21] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: a whole two followers and zero following. Obviously, it's gotta be real. Right? Watch... Just watch out. Just watch out, people. Grock scam going, of course.
[0:31:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Those come, like, every day, unfortunately.
[0:31:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have to admit a hell of
[0:31:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: don't think we should get comfortable with that fact because there are people who won't... Aren't familiar or aren't comfortable with it, and it's... I just... I'm big on that. I think we, you know, should just try to help each other out as much as we can in that sense.
[0:31:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Meta Beast. I'm down. Good shit. Hey. Cool in coma, you fuckers. You thought you were gonna slip away. Right? Like, have your little space drop all the alpha. Yes, Samar. I'm looking at you too. I don't care what you did today in the earlier in the space. You thought you three were gonna have this big info five fucking space and just announce it once to us, and then we're just gonna let it go by the wayside? Nah. These motherfuckers, yo, I pulled that space today. The amount of fucking gold that is in this space, I shit you not guys. I'm going to create an... I mean, I think right now, it's almost like at a four... Yeah. It's almost at, like, a four page doc because, I mean, it is chock full of so... Let me just give you guys the quotes from from there. Okay? Cool. Quote. Think of every tweet like a lottery ticket. A 100 a day is how you print influence. Samara, small account, marry one project until the algorithm knows your name. Cool. Mindshare is the new hash rate. Attention stakes tokens before your wallet does. That's facts. Coma, the leaders you envy, they grind 10 to 20 quality posts an hour every hour. Samara, curate. Don't crap post. One thoughtful thread is better than 10 lazy fucking memes in Kaito's eyes.
[0:33:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: I don't
[0:33:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: know who Pandara is, but he he said, if you're posting to 15 projects, you're literally posting to nobody. Go deep, not wide. Zero pause on that one at all.
[0:33:22] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: That's what she said.
[0:33:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Hey, yo. Samara, a blue check isn't vanity. It's an on ramp to higher leaderboard weight. Yo. Y'all kidding me, bro? Like, what the hell? How could you not tell us? Like like... Yo. Seriously, guys? Speak up next time.
[0:33:42] Kkoma @itskkoma: What is this? Where is this from?
[0:33:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is from the you and cool and Samara space, the info fi space that you guys did apparently for how many fucking hours. It's just so much goddamn golden here.
[0:33:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: We didn't do anything except pop out on space last Friday about...
[0:33:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Me. Me.
[0:33:59] Kkoma @itskkoma: Well, you know what? It's because, you know, ATC has evolved. You know, we gotta give Empress her, you know, her her her thirty minutes of the one hour to talk about hype and...
[0:34:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Holy shit.
[0:34:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm kidding. But you gotta respect the queen, you know. Let let her do her thing. So, yeah, Infobyte has kinda taken a backseat here, but that's cool. You know, we'll we'll we'll we'll talk more alpha.
[0:34:20] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Fuck it. Dave's the one who brought up hype.
[0:34:24] Kkoma @itskkoma: I like hype anyways. But, anyways, yeah,
[0:34:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go back to AVACs.
[0:34:29] Kkoma @itskkoma: Info... InfoFy has been heating up. It's it's been crazy. I didn't I didn't even know what else to talk about, but Magic Newton, I don't even know. There's too many cool... Like, how are you keeping up?
[0:34:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I do wanna hear... I actually do wanna hear about Magic Newton from Samar, but Empress go for it, then I wanna hear from Samar because, Samar, I've been following your tweets, and it's like, it sounded like everything you thought was gonna happen pretty much happened the way you wanted it to happen. So maybe we should be taking some blueprints. You know what I mean? Like, maybe they're actually writing the blueprints for everyone else to follow, so I wanna hear it. But Empress, go for it.
[0:35:01] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I was gonna be apologetic before I said what I was gonna say, but no. I'm not apologetic at all. Does anybody else secretly hope that Elon really does just kill Infofy because you're so overwhelmed and spread free?
[0:35:13] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: What's in the fuck?...
[0:35:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: All of it. Every fucking So by the
[0:35:17] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: way, you're all literally just signing up like lambs to be spotter for the government to actually track everything. And Frisk on Saturday said that there's a new info fi coming out that tracks what you watch too, and you're literally saying, here, CIA. Come and get me. So I'm just saying secretly on some level, does he... Don't you just, like, wanna be like, oh, if it's taken away from you, you could just breathe? And I'm a participant. No. But I'm just
[0:35:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: saying No. Not until the official info fi airdrop. And then you could say and do a
[0:35:52] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: takeaway airdrop. When are these ominous airdrops? What is
[0:35:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: it? Stop it. You better stop it. You better stop it. You better stop it right now. I'll take it from Scott.
[0:35:59] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You ain't got
[0:36:00] Samara @thee_samara: a d.
[0:36:00] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You don't get one anyway, so don't worry about it.
[0:36:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly.
[0:36:04] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Honey, I am angry at CT on Kaido. Are you inner CT, man... MetaBeam? I don't even
[0:36:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: know what
[0:36:09] Samara @thee_samara: that means. Inner CT. I'm not inner anything.
[0:36:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm in her CT. What is this?
[0:36:15] Kkoma @itskkoma: What do
[0:36:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: we what do we do?
[0:36:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Big pause. You're gonna take it for... You'll take it from Scott. Oh, boy.
[0:36:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I if I'm in her ear infection.
[0:36:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Comma, what's inner CP coma?
[0:36:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: It means you just know a lot of people. A lot of smart people.
[0:36:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is that on like your Kaito card? Is it... Does it... Is that the moniker? Because mine says, like, emerging yap or something.
[0:36:37] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yep. It means that...... 37 number that came to it. Better
[0:36:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: than you.
[0:36:41] Kkoma @itskkoma: It does. It does.
[0:36:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: And for the folks out there
[0:36:45] Kkoma @itskkoma: in space in in our one hour space because she's in the inner CT.
[0:36:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: So, comma, for the folks out there in the audience, inner CT does not mean just DM ing random women on crypto Twitter. Fuck.
[0:36:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shit. Whatever. Fuck you guys, man. And, Colm, I could've used you earlier today on the info space. WagMehub. Thank god Samara was there. Samara was there to bail you out, bro.
[0:37:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: Sorry. I I have a web two job.
[0:37:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wah. Wah. Wah. 10 to 20 posts an hour, bro. What's all that racket?
[0:37:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yo. You gotta you gotta schedule your post, don't you know? Of all people, Dave, you should know this.
[0:37:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yo. I didn't tell you guys. So I had Yuri, the the wall chain founder on... Last week on Friday. And I don't know what I was thinking. Like, I was like, I had Scoble on. Sometimes the Wagner guys get in my head. They're like, oh, yeah. Scoble and this one. And I'm like, but that doesn't work. Like, this is not the same arena. Like, we're not talking the same language. And I'm yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. People in seats. And I'm like, fuck. Okay. And we got him there, and I somehow figured out some sort of a segue. Cool. When I was... I told him that... I told him what I was doing with the whole Bindi thing, like automation or whatever. I guess I kinda, I'm an idiot. I ratted myself out. Next day, first time ever, I lost Quacks. I'm like, this is some shit. I lost fucking Quacks, bro. You think these guy... Bro, coma. Like, we need to get the referral game going. I don't know what's news with the g, the z, the this, the clout, whatever, but, like, ship it, bro. I need everything I can get at this point. Oh, this one's over here flooding my info five fucking bags. I got it, like... It's... Like, everybody. Like, stop working against me, Samara, thank you, by the way, for today. You were incredible. What's going on with Magic Newton?
[0:38:35] Samara @thee_samara: You know, Jim, Jim, Dave, Jim Cool, Jim Landy, Empress, Kumar. Sony d, Chinese p f p o. What's up, man? Yo. Empress sounds like she has a bunker in her backyard, bro. Like, she's preparing for the apocalypse or something. Well, that's cool. Just leave room for the ATC crew. Yeah. And with everything happening in the world, bro, you're on bombing here. You guys... Bro. Yo. Cool. What's up, man? We might all join you in, like, Jamaica soon, bro. Like, is that, like, a safe zone? Was that why, cool, run away? Bro, cool. Left this year, bro, to fend for ourselves, bro. Like, for for real. But we have to go Jamaica. Everyone has to Jamaica. It it was gonna be drafted.
[0:39:12] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: Run away from the draft.
[0:39:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Run away, bro. It was gonna.
[0:39:18] Samara @thee_samara: Well, yeah, man. Shout out to you guys, man. Yeah. Because I'm here, you know, Magic Mutant this week. Tomorrow, actually. Tomorrow, a couple of hours from now. 10AM ET. So we're preparing ourselves. The Yappers, only... They're only rewarding, like, top 1,000 Yappers. I don't know how the lead up work still works, but last I checked, I think it was, like, 200 and something. So I guess I'll be rewarded, I guess. The testers, I don't know which should be rewarded too, so I don't know how they're gonna do the application on the checker, most likely hours before the listing tomorrow. So good things, hopefully. Good things. Good things. That's basically the only airdrop. I'm actually kind of, like, bullish on this period. The Mighty Protocol did some crazy stuff. The whole timeline's pissed off. But, yeah, I'm still... I checked I'm eligible, so that's good. I stopped using them a long time ago, but still I'm still eligible for, like, a couple of tokens. That's a couple of $100 in my pocket, so that's good. Hopefully, the price stays up. But I'm I'm more, like, heavy on Magic Mutants, so looking forward to that. Yo. Wag me, guys, bro. The space deal was awesome. Had a couple of conversations. So, yeah, good things coming. Tomorrow. From what I've seen, I like I like the... What's up?
[0:40:30] Kkoma @itskkoma: I have...
[0:40:30] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Are
[0:40:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: are you gonna sell, like, Imagine Newton? I was looking at the tokenomics. It's pretty insane. Like, 60% to the community? That seems dangerous.
[0:40:40] Samara @thee_samara: No. Six... 60%, but initial, like, drop is 10%.
[0:40:45] Kkoma @itskkoma: The first step. That makes sense. I was gonna say, if it's 60%, if if gonna get wrecked. But... Okay. Cool.
[0:40:51] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Like, the whole time I knew that I'm a Jeets. Like, I'm a proud Jeets. Hose down Jeets up. Like, Jeet gang here. So that's... I'm I'm I'm a Jeets, bro. This cycle, I took a different approach. Yo, Samara, take
[0:41:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: it easy on the fan, bro. You just bought them fucking houses and cars, but, yeah, you're on the time I'd be like, two airdrops this week. Anything less than 10 k is dust, and so my friends and family's stalking my page to build me. I swear. A dollar, you know,
[0:41:13] Samara @thee_samara: bro. Like...
[0:41:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: And I'm like, oh, shit. Damn. Samar is upset.
[0:41:17] Samara @thee_samara: I'm just stuck with you as DC, bro. Like, you see 19 year old kids in Dubai are crazy. Like, they're crazy, bro. Like, bro, like, that's just why I... Like, AI is kinda heavy. I met a a kid who's, like, 22. He programmed AI for meta. This dude is bowling, bro. Like, bro, this dude is bowling. So, yeah, I'm trying to catch up with the world, trying to, like, stack up my USDC. I believe in all the projects. I love all the projects, but, man, I have to come first. I come first. Bro, like, this cycle was different, bro. You saw, like, even the president, like, Jeets Bro,
[0:41:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: you can't love all the project, bro.
[0:41:48] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: You just you just got them, bro. You can't love all the projects. You fucking love all
[0:41:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: the profits. Love the projects.
[0:41:54] Samara @thee_samara: Like like, give me
[0:41:55] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: You fucking love all the profits. Just state it, bro.
[0:41:58] Samara @thee_samara: Like like, right now, I'm just, like, I'm just... I believe in some projects, I have to, like, secure some of your things on the side, bro. Like, the the... If CZ can launch tokens and Jeets, the president and his wife can Jeet my tokens. Bro, I'm I'm gonna Jeet too. Like, for for... I'm Jeet ing. Sorry. I'm Jeet ing. I'll leave a little bag, a little moon bag. You know?
[0:42:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. You
[0:42:18] Samara @thee_samara: should. Not like, cool cool has bad hands. Like, definitely has forever.
[0:42:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: You should. I I was just confused with the 60% thing, but if that's the case, then... Yeah. You do you?
[0:42:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. Coma Coma read the first page of the tokenomics, Amar. I got a little tired, fell asleep. I was like, hey. What about the 60%?
[0:42:35] Kkoma @itskkoma: Well, I'm not even a magic
[0:42:36] Samara @thee_samara: person, like,
[0:42:37] Kkoma @itskkoma: yappers, so I I don't really care one way or the other. But... Yeah.
[0:42:42] Samara @thee_samara: You most likely get a location. I think they have, like, 0.25% for, like, NFT holders and stakers, so you should you should get something. Cool. Should get something too. So all the stakers and the NFT holders, you guys are, like, good, I guess. So, yeah, you should get something. Nice. So that's that's just basically... So tomorrow tomorrow is crazy. Tomorrow and Tuesday. Let's say tomorrow and next tomorrow, June fourteen, fifth, to Eidra, back to back. So, yeah, it's something. At least pay for Netflix. So...
[0:43:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's fucking go, Samara. Like, I'm I'm pulling for you, man, the same way I'm pulling for everybody else. Let's go make this fucking money out here, man. Yep. What I what I wanna
[0:43:15] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: Dave, I have a question. And, Dave, I have a quick one. Your abolition, Newton, when humanity didn't even have any feelings, okay, for the humanity, I wonder what Newton is definitely gonna do to the old and... But I don't know. I'm not getting my hopes high on any air drops. If it's not info fi, I don't know, man. Right now, I'm not bullish on anything. What do you guys think? Because, damn, humanity had people doing all sort of things, having your hands over your head, trying to scam your palm, trying to do all the shitty shitty stuff. You... Fuck, man. All the stress and afterwards, you ain't eligible, bro. Like, how do you how do you guys keep going? Like, I don't get it, man. I'm sticking to what I understand. I know. It's it's it's tiring. It's draining. You put your energy in multiple places, and at the end of the day, you're coming out with lesser energy than you ever had and even lesser dollars in your account. Come on, man.
[0:44:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: You obviously are not paying attention when I'm rattling off the fucking takes from the lit... Literally from the space with Komakul and Samara where I literally said and I quoted Samara. Okay? Hold on a second. Let me pull it right back up. That said, small account, question mark, marry one project until the algorithm knows your name. You said all these projects all exist. Bro, you don't sound motivated to do shit, Ken. I love you, bro. But at the end of the day, if people are waiting for a response from me in the DMs to be like, hey. Where's that form? Oh, in the community that that that there's links everywhere? Like, that's what I'm talking... You guys gotta... Like, if you want something, you have to be curious enough to go out, like, move your ass and go find this shit sometimes. You know what I mean? Like, you can't wait for nobody out here. Nobody. Not me. Not cool. Not... Right? That's it.
[0:45:23] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: That's why I chose to stick with info five because, bro, I feel more satisfied sticking with info
[0:45:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: five because, bro, what love you because you're the only one up here saying, like, yeah. You're info five. Everybody else is fucking fucking info five. So, man, like, Ken, you good. You could chill. Like, stay up here, bro. Fuck everybody else. No. No. I like info.
[0:45:42] Samara @thee_samara: No. I'm Bullish on his wife, W's in the chat.
[0:45:45] Samara @thee_samara: W's in chat for. Like,
[0:45:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: real quick. Oh,
[0:45:50] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: yeah. Real
[0:45:51] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: quick real quick. Monica asked coma for a link to the space.
[0:45:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I listen to patient motherfuckers too. Wow. I literally... Although, yeah, you're right. I never really follow through on that shit. So, Monica, you're right. I will... I'm lit... I literally have the full recap here in front of me. So let me put it into Genspark real quick, and then I'll share the link below. Let me do that right now. But, yeah, talk amongst yourselves. InfoFy. Yay.
[0:46:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hey. Cool. Have you heard of Sideline AI?
[0:46:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: Sideline AI. No. No. Is that is that new?
[0:46:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. It's new. They have their own, like, internal leaderboard. I think this could be a pretty decent cook, especially with your size. Maybe tomorrow you too. But all you need to do is, like, at top one hundred thirty days gets $10,000 USDC plus 3,000,000 RIS tokens. I don't know how much RIS is, but it's a pretty interesting one. I don't think it's very competitive.
[0:46:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Riz has been out for... Comma, Riz has been out for a minute. Be careful on that shit, bro. Like, Riz has been out for a second. Well, I remember when they launched, there was, like, no money in the pool. They launched to, like, really... Like like, literally no fucking hype. Like, there was nothing around it. I don't know if they might have, like, caught wind or maybe they'd actually really developed something dope.
[0:47:11] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Their day... One of our, like, I guess, big title yappers walls became their CMO. So he's been kinda pushing a couple of people to talk about them, but they have a really cool, like, feature. It's called a Yapper feature where essentially you could take, like... It's called auto yaps, and basically, you'll see a bunch of, like, subjects and topics that certain projects talk about, and then you could, like, regenerate those apps into more, like, digestible chunks and then open to interpretation of what you wanna do with it. I'm not saying it's good, but it's a good way to, like, get ideas. So, anyways, it... There's there's still... There's a decent pool size in my opinion. So I think that's one thing that I would... I'm actually yapping about it. It's pretty easy. So, yeah, I don't know outside of that, but the the Yapper tool seems pretty cool more than anything. But I don't know anything about liquidity.
[0:48:05] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah, man. That's what I said last time. Bro, like like, that's what I said last time. Bro, I've been on that reason for, bro. I bought... I ran the note. I I minted some NFTs. I paid for some stuff on their platform, and they gave me less than $100, bro. Like, they they left, a sour taste in my mouth, so I don't know, man. I don't know about that. For real... Personally, I don't know about it.
[0:48:24] Kkoma @itskkoma: If you don't go through
[0:48:25] Samara @thee_samara: pain social fighting. They had
[0:48:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: They don't go through pain once.
[0:48:27] Samara @thee_samara: Bro, like like like... Back then back then... Bro, like like like, back then, they had, like, a social fight, like, campaign too. You feel me? We we clients are our ex. We talked about them on timeline. I ran the nodes. I bought some some of those... Their their power NFTs and everything, bro. They still gave me just a $100, bro. So I just I just stopped.
[0:48:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: Did... Were they
[0:48:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: transparent about
[0:48:48] Kkoma @itskkoma: it before? Or... I'm not even depending now. I'm just curious.
[0:48:51] Samara @thee_samara: Well, that's ridiculous. Like, a bunch of people weren't eligible. People who who who who actually ran their number were not eligible. People who were top accounts talking about them were not eligible. Even if those were eligible, we didn't get... No. I don't think anyone made up to, like, $100, bro. Like, for for... Only, like, the people, the inner... Their inner team made, like, good good decent amount. So I just I don't know, man. I just feel like this is like a reservation campaign for them. So I just
[0:49:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: I just... I don't wanna fuck with you that much. I don't know.
[0:49:15] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Makes sense. I I... If Stacks did something, probably wouldn't do it either. But that's just me.
[0:49:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Landy, go for it. Speaking of stacks, I got some serious... I got some very intro... You guys have been seeing what's been going on over there?
[0:49:29] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. Dude, I'm still... I'm behind.
[0:49:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, it's like a case of who done it. I think Philip from Arcadico is literally the fucking anonymous founder of Welsh. It's fucking great, bro. It's like a fucking Scooby Doo episode. It's amazing. Landy, go for it. Scooby Doo episode. Man, we've
[0:49:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: been talking about this for a long ass time over there. I was just gonna say there's some breaking news. It appears that a ceasefire, deal has been reached, and, it's gonna be essentially a six hour six hour for each side and then move to the end of day. And after that, they... They're pushing if things go right for it to be considered just a twelve day war, and it's over.
[0:50:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stinko five launches tomorrow. Let's fucking... Oh, yeah. I don't know.
[0:50:15] Kkoma @itskkoma: I mean, I I Was
[0:50:16] Sunny D @dylN0chill: just a giant test of weapons just to see, like Yeah.
[0:50:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro. What would it
[0:50:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: actually be like? This
[0:50:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: happens all the time, man. Like, you guys don't understand. Like, this this... Look. I I can say it again. More happened... You guys focus focusing on your money bags, man. Stop focusing on the news. Everything is fake. It's not real. It was it was it was a... It's it's it's all theater, man. It's all acting. It's not real. That's the reason why
[0:50:43] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: Screamed to Yeah.
[0:50:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: All... Exactly. Screamed to Yeah. I like what... The... Man, he said the same thing, and we know what... You you know, Moscow and and Trump did. He said this the last week, and next, you know, one week later, they... They're they're all friends again. So everything's a scam. Just don't sell your bag. Guys, people sold, man.
[0:51:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: People sold their bag, like, couple days ago
[0:51:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: because they they were afraid by going to World War three. It's all noise, man. All freaking noise all the time.
[0:51:10] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: And I'm I'm just here to let you know that what what we can happen. If you have that delusional mindset that what what we will happen sometime, it can never happen. You know why? All of the world have invested so much in each other, and you need to check out the impact of all of these atomic bombs, bro. If if all the wars should go to war, I don't think in the next hundred years that there's gonna be anything left because, bro
[0:51:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ken, you better stop talking about
[0:51:44] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: the The impact the
[0:51:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: whole thing's crypto, bro. Like, come on. Like, let's go. Atomic bombs. What are we talking about again, man? Let's keep it moving.
[0:51:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, yeah. I was...
[0:51:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: It can't
[0:51:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: happen, man. World Warking can't happen. I'm just
[0:51:57] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: trying to let y'all understand that. There's no shit about World Warking gonna happen. So y'all better get your heads out and keep your head in the game and try as much as you can not to get a shakeout because all this is just a plot to shake you a lot. They want control.
[0:52:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're good. We're Okay.
[0:52:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was just gonna say that that much like Cool had referenced, you know... Well, the the Trump and Elon stuff, I called a psyop right the bat, and I maintained that all the way through their little kiss kiss makeup. And then now Elon's posting the entire Trump agenda yet again. So, I mean, the the funny part about this was... Is the the facilities weren't even staffed at the time that we dropped bunker busters on them, and then they told The United States that they were gonna send missiles over to the bases. And then they got shot down, and now it's over. But that doesn't mean that, like, real shit wasn't happening because there was actually real shit happening. Unfortunately, people did lose their lives. So, unfortunately, that is the case when there is conflicts like this and and, you know, pray for the innocent and and for those that were injured that were innocent. And that's really that's really it at the end of the day. Glad to see it's over. That's all that really matters. Now Wagme can launch their Infofy token and possibly have it...
[0:53:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's fucking go.
[0:53:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: So... Yeah. And then Cool and Samara and Koma can get back to posting 400 freaking times a day. I cannot keep up with your damn post. I see a post and then it auto refreshes, and there's, like, 500 more posts. Like, what the hell is up with it? I can't even go back to like them anymore because I can't even find them. They get buried under the other person's post. Like, man, I can't even show support for my boys out here.
[0:53:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: My thought was real, bro. I feel you.
[0:53:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Remember, it's it's it's post to unseason there. Post to unseason.
[0:53:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Post to unseason. I like that. P two e. P two e. Yeah. Good.
[0:54:01] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: That's crazy. That's crazy. Good. It's really getting the whole info file dilution because, bro, I'm not seeing any info file. People are not really putting out great content. They're all posting just to climb on some leaderboard. And I miss the days where people, you know, put out real content because they are passionate about a project or be sure... Because they find something about a project that is fascinating. Right now, oh, have you seen this? Oh my god. It's crazy. It fucking got 97 supply going to the commute. Bullshit everywhere. Everyone's just trying to
[0:54:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: poke holes. Like the bearer of positivity today. Like, give me... I mean, give me something. Like, all you're telling us is, like, this sucks. You suck. That sucks. This sucks. Symfophy sucks. The world's gonna die. Atomic bombs blow up. Give me something fucking... You know, sprinkle a little, you know, a little something in there once in a while, Ken. You know what I mean?
[0:54:56] Samara @thee_samara: The only I found on the timeline is wagging me up. That's right. I
[0:55:00] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: got the We
[0:55:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: know a lot of this. That's it.
[0:55:02] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: This Pandora box, whatever you get when you open it up is what you get, bro. It's a Pandora box.
[0:55:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. What else we got cooking on the timeline? Like, what's news in the... Wait. Crypto. Wait. Let me just make sure that we went over all the stories. Oh, Zac XBT exposes New York scammer. Did you guys see this one? This is my favorite. The guy literally put his fucking Instagram handle as his fucking license plate. Yeah. They don't make them Yeah.
[0:55:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're gonna come get me now. Shit. They
[0:55:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't make them like they used to, kids. They do not make them like they used to. $4,000,000 this fucking guy got. He's from Brooklyn, apparently.
[0:55:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, where have you been? See?
[0:55:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: They got him. Long pause. Yeah. Okay. What else? Bitcoin ETF surpassed a trillion dollars in total trading volume. That's fucking wild, man. That is great. A trillion dollars? What else do I got? Fear and greed. Oh, Circle. Yeah. This is where you guys get to forget your victory lap. So, hey. This was theater. We're good. Yeah. This is where you take the Circle market cap flips USDC Market cap. I think it's 61 point... Essentially, 62,000,000,000 for Circle, 61,000,000,000 in floating and circulating USDC. How crazy is that, guys? How insane... We were talking about a five billion to seven billion dollar fucking purchase from XRP or this one, that one. That's a 10 x in less than three weeks, man. That is... Listen. Like, there's a lot possible out here. A lot is possible. Wait. Wait.
[0:56:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, weren't we talking about the fact that they should be valued on their market cap at the time? I thought that we talked about that here. That they that they were gonna probably say no to those deals because they felt like they should be valued at the market cap if they're stable, and now they've surpassed it.
[0:56:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Didn't no. No. People were making the mistake of valuing them at their... Like, what what the outstanding actual USDC was. Like, what the actual float was for USDC, not what the company was based off of the revenue that they were making. Right? So and and 5,000,000,000 or 6,000,000,000 was even generous. And then when they came in, if you remember at the top of the range and people were, like, really had demand for it. But I think, look, you combine that with Genius Act. Like, this... Like, it was the perfect storm for them. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, we're going public and just so fucking happens, like, we're paving the political fucking way. Like, I mean, it's it's it's free it's free rain now. Like, they have a... To just make a a shit ton of money. So that timing couldn't have been more perfect for sure. What else? What else you guys seeing on the timeline? Any other airdrops or anything else cooking? Cole, you wanna give us the secret as the... Yeah.
[0:57:47] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: Yeah. I think I think I'm seeing something about the WagMe stickers holders getting some airdrop. I haven't verified that yet, but I was hoping Dave could just verify that. Will WagMe stickers holders and Telegram be getting the airdrop? Or is it just false information?
[0:58:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: So if you just hold stickers, it's not like, oh, you have stickers. You're automatically getting an airdrop. No. You have to be in the app. You have them signed up. It's a whole point system that they got working in there. You guys know me. I don't do point systems, but it's not like, hey. Like, you hold stickers and, like, you're gonna get x amount of airdrop. No. I think what the stickers do is they give you, excuse me, a, like, a little bit of a multiplier if you are, like, doing everything else. But... Yeah. Like, don't look at me to, like, to confirm that. I am not the one to be like, hey. Do we get this, and do we get that, and do we get this? Nope. That is not me. I am the forward facing loud mouth guy that is essentially gonna help run the spaces and, you know, consult on some strategy stuff. But other than that, yeah, you guys gotta, but the questions are good. I thought I was gonna get cooked this morning. I did, like, an AMA on, like, a... What was it? Coin... I forgot. One of these IDO pads. And, like, every... They was coming up one by one, and she just kept letting them up. And I was like, alright. I guess we're gonna, you know, kept leaving them up. Let's go. It's different, guys. When you put your name and your docs and your... And and your... Like, this is, like, my reputation at the end of the day. Right? So for me, I need to make sure that, like, everything is on the up and up. Right? Because if this goes wrong... And believe you me, I've had my moments. You guys know me. I trust fucking nobody. Like, up until yesterday, I was just like, oh my god. Like, they're gonna really postpone this? Is this a rug? Like, this is it. That's it. My career is over. I'm done. Like, I'm gonna be get run out of fucking Dodge. But, you know, you have to kinda let cooler heads prevail, and eventually, like, you'll be good. Sometimes you do gotta just, you know, settle down a little bit. But, yeah, I'm excited for it. Let's see what happens. I don't know. I'm ex... Like, yeah, I just want it to fucking happen already. Eddie, what's up, bro? Yo.
[0:59:55] Eddie @EdMoneys: What's good, friends? How's it going? You know, I'm looking at this... I'm looking at the current market right now, and I'm thinking, well, one, I've been... If you've been following me, you've been knowing that I've been saying, if you know about crypto, you should get into stocks and traditional finance. You're gonna thrive. Right? But I just seen a recent post the other day from Jonah, and he he said that altcoins... Altcoin season isn't here because IPOs are the new altcoin season. So I was gonna pitch that question to you guys, see what see what you big brain MFers would say about that.
[1:00:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't even wanna say IPOs. I feel like the SPAC deals are gonna be the fucking big boys. Like... Right? Like, I'm gonna be... I... I'm looking for warrants. Right? Like, I'm looking for a lot of different things, like, things that people... Like, things that the average Joe doesn't actually see on a day to day basis. Right? So if you have any experience, like, in these financial markets, even if you don't, like, go look up what a special purpose acquisition company is. I'm telling you guys, like, this is... Like, when you hear reverse merger, literally, like, they're just fucking injecting money into a defunct company that already has the paperwork done. That's exactly what it means. And that's a legal thing to do, genuinely. That's a legal thing. I used to work for, like, the biggest SPAC trader in New York City, and I'll tell you back then he was taking money. I can only imagine what he's gonna be doing in this kind of market. Yeah. Edo, go for it.
[1:01:13] Eddie @EdMoneys: Okay. Wait. Did you work for Shamath from all over?
[1:01:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nope. Nope. I'm just fine.
[1:01:17] Eddie @EdMoneys: I'm just kidding. Oh. But for the SPAC for the SPAC for the SPAC situation, you know, it it feels... So that's the smart way to IPO now because it's so expensive and cumbersome to, like, try to take your company public. Right? So they've they've created this loophole so that you can go public a lot cheaper. And I think a lot of companies are being slept on in the SPAC area too, Dave. I think a lot of people are staring at shiny AI things, and they're looking at these IPOs go crazy that they're forgetting that these SPACs are happening. And one of the SPACs that I'm interested in is a personal finance Bitcoin company, and they're called FoldApp. Some of you might might use them. You didn't know that they were publicly traded, but you brought up warrants as well. So they went they went public with the SPAC. People are kinda sleeping on them. I found a asymmetric trade with their balance sheet and and what they were trading for on the market. And they have these warrants, though, that are trading for under a dollar, and the warrant is basically a promise to buy the stock at $11 anytime before twenty thirty. Now the stock is trading at $4.50. The warrants are trading under a dollar. But five years out, like, you're telling me this company is not gonna grow past the $250,000? It's literally trading under 250 k right now, and they have a 150 k in Bitcoin on their treasury. So you're telling me they're not worth more than that difference. And I see what you're saying, Dave. The the stuff that people are not paying attention to is what you wanna get on right now because by the time it comes around and people are buying these warrants... Or let's just say, you know, we're getting closer to $20.30 and Bitcoin's going nuts. It's like, these are the asymmetric opportunities you wanna look at, and they have an underlying business. It's not anything can go to zero like how we know in Meme Coins. It's like, no. No. There's a business here, and there is a floor. There actually is a place where shit can get sold off and assets get divided by shareholders. So there's a there's a real floor. And, yeah, that... It just just led me to all that because, you know, everyone's looking for some opportunities, so there's a lot right there for anyone interested.
[1:03:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Edo. Yeah, man. Like, this is... And what we were talking about, and you guys saw, like, the thread that I put out, whatever it was, two weeks ago with Justin Sun, right, and the SRM deal. Right? He's backing... He's putting in a $100,000,000, backing it into SRM, which is a defunct toy company, and now you've got TRX Inc. And what did that do? That literally laid the groundwork. Today, I'm reading BNB, $100,000,000 of a fucking tech bros. TradFi bros gonna do the same exact thing and back it in now. But, look, to to Empress' credit, this is the dangerous part. Like, when when they start just one after the other quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, like, this isn't for everybody. Right? Like, a Justin Sun move, I get it. But when some of, like, these lower level, like, hotshot fucking... Like, idiots think like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a $100,000,000. I'm gonna take 10,000,000, leverage the other 90, and then go do this, That's not a good thing. Right? Like, it's just not a really good thing. And it... This is for experienced investors. Like, I don't think people genuinely understand how serious, like, SPAC investing is. You have to do real homework. Like, there is massive arithmetic... Empress arithmetic arithmetic. Yeah. There is... Like, you have to do a lot of work. But, yeah, good shit, Edo. And there's opportunity here. Edo, go look at that BNB deal. I'll shoot you the article right now. I'm so curious to hear what you think about that one. Good shit. Coma?
[1:04:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, no. I was gonna
[1:04:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: just mention, Empress is really quiet. I I I read her... I hear hyperliquid onboarding starter packing. So much information there. So I... She does need her thirty minutes to talk about some alphas because this is pretty beefy. Say those things.
[1:04:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thirty minutes of hyper liquid? No. Really? Nobody else has anything else, but, like, maybe we give it, like, ten.
[1:05:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I don't need thirty. I'm writing a whole other thread right now. I'm... Y'all don't even know. I'm not a I 'm not a chain maxi.
[1:05:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hyperliquid. Wait. Why do you switch your PFP from space to space?
[1:05:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Don't. The reason
[1:05:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: you told me that? Oh, what? You told me last time you... You go... When you go from one space to another, you...
[1:05:27] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Oh my god. Hypeos are, like, they're cult. They're they're they're derivative. And so if you don't wear a Hypeo, you can't have a fucking mic. So I tray... Change it when I go to Hypeo's faces. That and MFers piss me off this weekend because sometimes they act like beta cucks, and so they piss... They... They're just not good with the ladies, and I was proving a point. But now I'm back to my MFer, and don't worry about my life. But I'm writing my thread about what to do when you have no liquid in your sidelined, and that's what I'm doing right now.
[1:06:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like those threads. I like those threads a lot because I found myself in that position very, very often, very, very often. My dumbass found it for whatever... I was the dumbass, but sometimes it's just an unfortunate incident like you said, but good shit, Empress. I like that. And it's good to see your red earmuffs back. Whatever... Yeah. Come on.
[1:06:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: Like, you the SPAC and all those things, Dave, it makes so much sense, and it could even apply to crypto. Like, I know I talk about virtuals a lot, but to be honest with you, like, if too many people understand virtuals, that means you're probably late.
[1:06:35] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: So That's just complicated, Coma. I checked it out this weekend. It it was complicated.
[1:06:42] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. But once you get it and the majority of people get it, then it... Then, you know, it's it's it's kinda, like, oversaturated almost. So I'm actually looking at another thing called CreatorBid, which is, like, kinda like a alternative to... I guess it's like a variant to launching agents. That is complicated. I don't understand it. I'm trying to understand it, but they're they're kinda flying under the radar.
[1:07:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is it called, Coma, real quick? What... What's the website?
[1:07:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: Creator.bid. Creator or trader? Creator. Like, I'm a creator, like, content creator.
[1:07:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, creator bid. Okay. Got it.
[1:07:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. It's... They've they've been around around the same time as virtuals, but they've always been kind of like the the the younger brother, I guess, as compared to virtuals in terms of love. But they actually have a really, really solid agent called, like, the Kingdao the Kingdao or something like that. I really wish Billy Betz was here because he would know this, but it's all about, like, gambling and all of those things. But they're very heavy on Tau Tau agents, like... Or sub versions of TAL agents. Fucking knew
[1:07:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: it, bro. Yeah. I... Bro, I was literally trolling that guy that doesn't respond to my thing. You know, the architect dude in TAL that always, like, puts out those fancy tweets that never responds. Like, I JJ. He's such a gigger brain, and I'm like, you know what? Let me just try this. And I literally wrote that in the post. Was like, let me try this, JJ. What if I try and just poke at you and be like, hey, man. You know, if you speak in hieroglyphics on the timeline, nobody's gonna fucking understand what you're saying, bro. Didn't even respond, didn't react. I got some pleb that responded and was like, are you telling the architect that blah blah blah? And I'm like, bro, I'm just trying to get this dude in the space, homie. Like, I just wanna learn about Tau. Like, because for some reason, no. Like, it's not fucking registering in my brain, bro.
[1:08:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Yeah. Tau is still confusing to me. Not gonna lie. But I guess my point is that they are on Kaido, but the reason why no one's talking about them is because virtuals is getting so much love. But if you're... And, you know, they always say if you're early, that's the best time, you know, to make the biggest bug. So just try to research and understand how it works, I'd say. But if, I mean, if it's not your cup of tea, then just move on. But it is somewhat complicated even for me, and I don't fully understand how their whole, like, Genesys launch esque equivalent is gonna gonna be, but it's just worth looking into and seeing if it's worthwhile to research... To, like, invest in. So that's one I would suggest highly.
[1:09:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I had CB as cohost today from AIXCB, and I was like, I need the fucking... I was in the DMs. I'm like, CB, need you to tell me, like, where's, like, where's the where's the money going at, bro? He was like, there's no secret sauce. And I was like, fuck. Okay. Fine. Like, he's just amassing points on points on points, bro. It's kinda crazy.
[1:09:23] Kkoma @itskkoma: It's crazy. Like, the... I mean, I I know I keep talking about Tibber, but during this whole, like, dip, it it went from, like, almost 12ยข to, like, 8ยข during, like, all the the crazy drop. But this guy named Altcoinus, he... He's... He tracks, like, everything through Nansum. And, apparently, like, the top, like, 100, like... Or the top 10 holders didn't sell a dime. If anything, they bought more. So then I just checked the price again. It's 11ยข again. So, like, holy shit. I think this is actually gonna be something big. A $111,000,000 market cap, and supposedly it's a stealth launch. I don't know, man. This thing is... I I can't even tell you what it is. It's just it's just backed by Ribbit Capital, guys, so who knows?
[1:10:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's... See, like, I I always wonder what the fuck they would do, but... Alright. Yeah. Good shit, Coma. Yeah. Empress, go for
[1:10:12] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Now go to cool because it it happens every time I put a thing up there, and then cool put a thing in front of it. So then I took mine down. So go to cool first, and then I'll go get mine.
[1:10:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. What are doing up there?
[1:10:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. Sorry, sir. I'm gonna put it up, and and and proceed for yours. Basically, these are the info five pro... Protocols I'm on right now. So that's... If you're looking at it, info five... Yeah. Yeah. Your z's AI, clouds, wall chain, and blank. These are probably the the the next big things. I don't know if I missed any, but wall change should be there too. Wall change, I think, wall change there. Wall change... Wall change there. So, eight for five, YAPL, CCI, clouds, wall change, and blank. Those are the next, big info five protocols. Shoot. Find ways to get on them. That's probably way the the the next way your money is gonna be made. So that's the small problem. So... And presented.
[1:11:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Okay. I put it up there. So... Because I do think that there's clout behind a lot of the SocialFi and the Infophy that that helps in... For a lot of people, and there's a lot of grind to it. And I'm adding this to the thread that I'm putting in now. But keep an eye on Monad. It's easier to farm. There... It's it's pretty straightforward in how to farm it, and it's less labor intensive. There are many apps on Farcaster, and I'm gonna have links in the thread that I'm putting out, for, like, quick money. Some of the mini apps that are on Forecaster include you get USDC. It's, like, point o o o one, stuff like that. But, again, like, when you're taking those incremental amounts and then, you start stacking it up and then you get point o o three, and then if you're not greedy and you make a three times in a coin and you take that and then you're making... And you take the profit there, and you flip and you flip and you flip. You see how it goes. So, just keep an eye on that because it's a little less labor intensive than the SocialFi, InfoFi aspect. But like I said, I'll I'll add those links into the, thread that I'm working on.
[1:12:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Empress, just so I understand, like, when you say flip flip flip, like, what what kind... Like, dollar... Like, just rough, like, dollar denomination, what kind of flips are we talking about? Like, are we talking, like like, $50 flips, $500 flips? Like, what what what are we saying? We say quick flips.
[1:12:35] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. No. Like, I... Lenny will tell you. I am not... Like, I will... If I... Two times. Like, if I have point o three and I get into a coin, and then I look at my thing and suddenly I've got $8, I'm like, yes. I'll skim, like, $2 off of that. And and then, like, you just start stacking that incrementally, and it... Over time, you end up in in profit significantly. Like, it just... You're hedging your bets. And as you're stacking the crypto, then when you... Especially SOL, because SOL... In the SOL casino, it's so easy to absolutely get wrecked. What I do is after I stack a certain amount over time, I have a cap. So five Soul, once I hit that cap, I rotate some of it out into my better plays that are less volatile, and then I start again.
[1:13:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Okay. Thank you for the context. I appreciate it. I think that was just... Yeah. So it's... I mean, maybe for me, was just so I kinda get, like, an understanding as to, like, what kind of flips you're doing, but, yeah, good shit.
[1:13:47] Kkoma @itskkoma: I have one more thing. Sorry.
[1:13:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. No. Go for
[1:13:49] Kkoma @itskkoma: it, Coma, please. Katana, I know I talked about this a lot. One hour and fifteen minutes left till pre deposits are over. Their intention was to give 70,000,000 CAT for predepositors, but only 2,800,000 cats have been distributed. So the leftover cat will go into the predepositors, and that's probably a lot of cat depending on how much you put in. So, yeah, the the the punk was not won yet, so you still have a chance technically. But I'm a lady was one. So... Yeah.
[1:14:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Oh, is that what you were going for with those boxes when you were buying those box? So you're... Like, a post you had or something like that? Was that this?
[1:14:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I mean, the the the chance to win a punk is, like, 0.000 something percent or whatever. But I I think the more alpha is that the depositors get the the remaining cat distributed depending on how much you put in. So, yeah, I put a decent bag in there. Hopefully, it pays off.
[1:14:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. Cool. Love it. Look at this. I love seeing the ladies on the timeline fucking come together. This is amazing. Good shit. Let's go. Oh, speaking of ladies,
[1:15:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: Did you did you see all those, like, catfish accounts that oh, it's, like, calling out.
[1:15:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. What happened?
[1:15:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, there's this there's this creator or account called Vogue Vogue, and she just basically calling out, like, at least, like, 30 accounts on x that are actually not them, and they're just using, like, Instagram.
[1:15:22] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But did you see what happened, Coma?
[1:15:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Then then people started calling... And then
[1:15:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: they called me to...
[1:15:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. They called... Yeah. Exactly. So people started calling real accounts as fake, and then it just got, like, out of hand. So now no one knows which accounts are real and which accounts are fake. This is why women aren't in crypto, dude. It's just too... It's too it's too too aggressive.
[1:15:47] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I mean, but to be fair, there... I've also only seen women take other pictures that aren't theirs. Like, I don't get that either. Like, that keeps happening too. So I don't really know what that's about.
[1:16:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: Look like you at all. What is this?
[1:16:07] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Who's who's
[1:16:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: who's picture did you see of?
[1:16:09] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You know, it's totally me. I don't get it. This is me in real time. I'm I'm the Jessica Rabbit of Portland, a mistake figure animated.
[1:16:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: You know, so so, Empress, we we know we know it's you. You know why? Because you come to spaces. You contribute. You don't post red shots of the place, you know, you're not doing all that stuff on your timeline. That's how we know that you legit. If you... Most of the females in crypto normally, they're pretty respectable. I... In my opinion, I don't think...
[1:16:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: Some of them some
[1:16:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: of them do put out their stuff. I guess they use whatever they don't need to do, but I I I respect the ones that that actually comes with crypto with value and actually contribute something. But we we live in an era, man, an era where attention is money, man. And we saw a guy, yeah, yeah, you know, still on a a p f p or picture from from Instagram. He came to Twitter. He has 230,000 followers with a o o... OKX partnership. So everybody thinks he's he's a female because he is... You know, he have the p f p u's some super hot model. Right? So... But... Yeah, man. I appreciate the women that actually, you know, give real value and, you know, that that showing their... Showing their stuff to get followers. I mean, he's worried it is, though. I mean, it it... The the game is a game.
[1:17:32] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: That's what Koma was saying, Cole. Did you hear him?
[1:17:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I heard him.
[1:17:38] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: 30 accounts.
[1:17:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somebody's going around imitating me? What's the deal? Did you guys defend me?
[1:17:46] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Like, was... Do you guys have any idea? It's a great side hustle. I know plenty of guys that have side hustle accounts. They sell feed pics.
[1:17:58] Kkoma @itskkoma: Like Well,
[1:18:00] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: I personally don't think there's anything wrong.
[1:18:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Woke up.
[1:18:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who woke up? Bro, bro, I I wasn't sleeping.
[1:18:08] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: I was actually in telegram trenches, and I'll tell you guys what I found out quickly after I make this contribution. So cool. Said something about, you know, ladies showing off stuff to get followers and all that. Value is value for me, bro. If that's the kind of value they have to bring to the table, it's still value. People still value those things. So if that's what they have to offer, it's beautiful. It's fine. Use what you have. Right? Every advantage you have, every privilege you have, please maximize it. Use it. Just do what you can. Everybody can be a brainy. Some have to be a body. So if you a body and not a brainy, be a body and stop trying to be a brainy and messing things up for, you know, the brainy ones. Right? So... Yeah. And if you're in taking your Telegram community seriously, I think there might be a future in, you know, a sooner period where people can offer you, money to post in your community. They... Like, you could probably set your account to get paid, I think, in stars or in tone, whichever one, before someone can message you. So if you're getting a whole lot of DMs and you just don't want all of those DMs, you could set an amount of stars, and that's when it's currently functional. But the one we're looking at is something around community. You have a community and someone wants to make a post, you could get offers. They could make an offer to you. Let's say, for example, I'm trying to get to post in Dave's channel, and I could just make an offer right there. Or I'll be willing to pay you x amount of stars or x amount of ton to make a post at a period of time or... You can't
[1:20:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: know that's gonna come? Time. Guess what, bro? Guess what? The Inkofy token,
[1:20:19] Kkoma @itskkoma: we
[1:20:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: are actually building a telegram marketplace, which in the next, I don't wanna give a date, but... Or a time, but I think it's actually twenty four to forty eight hours, believe it or not. But who knows? I don't know. But there is a Telegram marketplace that is coming out. Not vaporware, not nonsense, real marketplace that makes real money. So, yeah, you are right. I actually tried to DM one of the NotCoin founders when I had, like, a... An interview set up with them, and it was, 444 stars. I was like, bitch, what the fuck is this? I am not gonna pay fucking $5 so that I can message you, the rich dude. That's crazy. Anyways... But you're right, though, Ken. I don't know how we went from Feedpix to Telegram Stars to marketplaces back to InfoFi, but, you know, it's... You guys see this? It's what we call fly fly flywheel. It's it's called it's called
[1:21:11] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: everything crypto for a reason, bro. It's everything. Everything can come in. The bodies, the brainies, everything. Everything can come in. It's crypto. And, yeah, I'm not sleeping. I'm in the trenches, bro.
[1:21:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're good, my bro.
[1:21:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: Thank you. First had her hands up, but I'm I'm kinda curious what she was gonna say.
[1:21:30] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: They haven't come, but I was letting them pivot. Look. Here... Here's the thing.
[1:21:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What... I'll tell you right now. I I... It will be the death of the both of you, comma, if you made her pause, and she's gonna flood some info files just right here right now.
[1:21:44] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But here's what I am gonna say.
[1:21:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: I think it has more to do with the body or
[1:21:47] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: the brain. It I I am pro sex work, do you? I am. And and, like, I will never ever... And I also think, like, the the height of, like... I mean, get fucked. The the men who feel like they get to give permission for how people move, whatever. Go go you, whatever. But I will say this. It... I saw a girl who just made her crypto account, I don't know, eight months ago, and she's monetized to make it... I think it was a $2 payout or something. I'm not monetized. I just was like... It's like a hard pill to swallow. And then when you're on a stage and you have a girl come up and she's using sex voice, and I'll tell you, sex voice irritates the fuck out of me on his face. Like, I I... And I've kicked girls down for it. I won't lie. If you come up and you use sex voice and I'm a coho, I might kick you down, even if you are a sex worker. But, like... And then you say, well, we all know what women do for alpha in this space. Like, it it is. It's a double edged sword. Like, I really am good with how you move in this space, but, like, the level that sometimes it takes away from women and their credibility in this space is a hard pill to swallow, and it's a difficult line to navigate. It's it's it's frustrating, and I'm not really sure how that reconciles. I haven't figured out how to reconcile it. There were some credible traders that I was working with some women, and then, you know, it gets a little tougher, and they lose some trades, and suddenly you see their body everywhere. And it's like you just... You don't know how to do it. So just know that as as a woman that doesn't put their body everywhere, we definitely get shafted the most for the ones that aren't asking for the shaft. It's kinda crazy.
[1:23:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, ATC is the nonshaftable fucking, like,
[1:23:50] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: space spent. Treated very fairly and nicely nicely here. I I I get very... And I I don't get objectified, and I don't get marginalized. And I appreciate this space very much.
[1:24:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Come on. Empress, wait till you wait till Nat Nat gets back. Oh, y'all are in fucking trouble. Nat Nat and Empress, y'all are fucking dead. We are gonna run the tightest fucking ship ever. None of you bitches are gonna move just up. Do a
[1:24:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: spin off, Dave, and just do their own
[1:24:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo, comma, stop with the fucking... Like, what you think is innovation and all these smart ideas, bro. Like, just cut it off at info five, bro. Like, don't let it come into ATC. That's crazy. You're gonna let them come in. It's like Mario tried to come and swoop in and be like, hey, Matt. Matt, fuck out of here, bro. Like, you're a political correspondent. You don't know shit from shit about crypto.
[1:24:36] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yes, Empress. Please stay.
[1:24:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: He did. Uh-huh. Shit. Don't get me started right now. Guys, I'm sweating....
[1:24:41] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Impact sending me hearts, but I don't see Impacts. It's freaking me out. It's like the ghost of Impact.
[1:24:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Impact is grease trapping? Wait. No. I don't have Impacts blocked anymore. He can... He's good. Wait. Is he? He's right there. Yo, Townes. What up, Joe? What's good, baby? Wait. Is Empacks really grease trapping? He has anything grease trapped?
[1:24:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's right here. He's next to Jess and Darth dude, and they're hanging out just having a little party down there.
[1:25:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Nice. MPAC's welcome.
[1:25:08] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: On everything, he's not on my screen. It's it's the ghost. It's hard. It's crazy.
[1:25:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. It's the ghost of MPAC's.
[1:25:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. I got this fucking Infofy revolution, cool coma and Samara master class. It actually looks really fucking good in this deck that I put together with Genspark. It's actually insane. Who's got the new chat feature so that we can share it? Anyone of you plebs has the new chat features so that I can actually share files, like PDFs and PowerPoints and shit? Landy does. I was testing it with him. I got it. Yeah. Hold on one second. Let me see which one of you guys...
[1:25:43] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You're talking about the encrypted thing?
[1:25:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, there's a new beta. It says chat. Yeah. You could do, like, encrypted messages, like, you know, a bunch of stuff. I sent Samar the funny video. Yeah.
[1:25:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. The the encrypted chat, though, I will let those of you that are using it know. Unless you go specifically check that, you're never gonna see the notification because it doesn't pop up as part of your normal notifications, which is wild. Because I... Probably because it's beta.
[1:26:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: What the hell? Cool. Why can't I include you in the group? Listen to you, bully, bougie, info five, title sneakers. Need to just relax now. Okay? I cannot include cool. I can't... Well, who else? Coma, if you're in this too. Hold on.
[1:26:30] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Let me see.
[1:26:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. Coma, I could add you. Cool. You're on the outs now, but that's alright. We'll we'll we'll send you somehow. Monica, I got it. I think I'm gonna... Let me see if I could just send it to you really quickly because I know it's something that you wanted. But, yo, guys, for real, like, there is shock full of info in here, and a a Twitter thread just... Like, it really won't do it justice. Like, for real. This is... Really, this thing created a 13 page slide, like, 13 page fucking deck off of, excuse me, a 13 slide deck off of the, the transcript that I gave it, and it's got the gold that you guys were dropping. It's organized. It looks really, really good. Now I just gotta figure out a way to get this to everybody. But... Yeah. Alright. Cool. Anything else before we go? It's three minutes left. Guys, we're under? What kind... Like, what... Cool. See?
[1:27:16] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Wait. What was your Stacks stuff?
[1:27:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. Oh, yeah. Really? Okay. So check this out. So check this out. This is what happened in Staxon with Welsh. Right? So you guys remember back when, like, Welsh was, like, running, like, crazy in the last run? It went up to, like... I think it like, a hundred and fifth... 25 or $50,000,000 market cap. Right? Like, people were like, fucking Welsh. Oh my god. Well, turns out that way back when, like, in the very beginning days of Welsh, there was a transfer of about 10% of the supply from the, quote, anonymous founders to Arcadeeco. Now Arcadeeco was, like, the only... Like, the... One of the first DeFi protocols, like, on stacks, and Philip heads up Archodecco. This is not a... I wanna be super clear. I actually like Philip. I think Philip's a great dude. You know what I mean? But, guys, go... Also go check-in on Cool's fucking stream. It's his first day back. Go support him. So unless you wanna stay here and listen to the Welsh story. But they've held on to this now for a long time. And, Landy, I thought people actually knew about this because during the hundred days, right, like, before you and I crossed paths, you Benedict Arnold, before we actually crossed paths, like, bit by bit was genuinely, like, reaching out. He's like, dude, I'm telling you, like, Philip has 10% of the supply. I'm like, he has a billion tokens? And he's like, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck is he doing with a billion tokens? Like, that doesn't make any sense. So fast forward, like, you know, who knows what the fuck happened? But fast forward, somebody gets fucking something shoved up there, like, fucking crammed up their... Stick up their ass, and Wagmy's... Mister Wagmy goes on the timeline, and he says, this is crazy. We need to know what's going on. The Welsh community demands answers. Longer to short, as they started peeling back layer by layer by layer, like, posts started getting deleted. Right? Like, you weren't seeing the notices that said, hey. We just transferred a billion of... A billion Welsh tokens over to the Arcadeeco team to burn. You know what Phil's response was? He said, yeah. But they said it was a burn. But, ultimately, like, you know, they used, like, the wrong verbiage. Like, the... It it... Wasn't correct. And it was like, wait. What? So where we are now and what I think happened... And, again, this is speculation nation, so, like, everyone needs to do their homework. But I think Philip Arcadico created Welsh, the Welsh token way back when. That makes perfect sense to me. He hid behind me a non... The anonymity of it. Right? He sent himself a billion of it when he saw that people were actually rallying behind this thing, and, actually, there was real money in the liquidity pool, and this thing tar... Started to actually percolate. You know what I'm saying? Like, it really started to move. And then next thing you know, 25,000,000, 50,000,000, 75,000,000. And the fucked up part about all of it is that this motherfucker... There is not... Like, from what I understood in that in that in that note that he wrote to the community, they don't have anything left of those 1,000,000,000, like, or at least 500,000,000 of it, maybe, Landy. But point being, while he's watching the community fucking, like, fight, claw, steal, whatever they can do to bring in, like, members to the Welsh community, this fucking guy is shipping off fucking Welsh to Mexi and dumping on everybody's fucking head. And this is somebody that is at the head of stacking DAO. Again, like, fucking... Like, listen to me when I say this. Okay? Like, total speculation nation, but my bullshit meter... Look. I'm off sometimes, but not very fucking often. Landy, what do you wanna add?
[1:30:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Called it. It. Called Called Called Called Called Called Called it. Right from the fucking beginning, and everybody was trying to get me the fuck out of the community when I said it. Gosh. Listen. This is this is... All you have to do is look at the funding from XC and trace it back. It is not difficult. This was very easy right from the very beginning. People just didn't wanna believe it, and now he has exposed that that is the truth, and he's trying to backtrack, and he can't get out of this one. And, you know, I I feel a little bit vindicated, but also I don't care anymore. I don't care anymore because I got so much shit from people. So much shit. I literally had people threatening me, like like, physical violence, and I'm gonna find you, and, like, all this other shit just from mentioning it, which is wild to me. And I don't like what happened.
[1:31:48] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: Bro, what were you expecting?
[1:31:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Let him finish. Let him cook. Hold on.
[1:31:52] ๐Šc๐ง๐ฎ๐ž๐ฅ @Kcywayne: They were giving away so much money that they were buying basically everyone. So anytime you try to say anything about it that's not in light to what they want, you get a chance.
[1:32:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: On. Landy, finish finish up. I wanna hear what Landy... Yeah. Landy, finish up.
[1:32:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: But but this was something that, obviously, you learned about pretty early on. We have more information because he he has a response. Now it's about where does that community go from here, and what does... What do those in his immediate circle... Are they gonna do anything about it? And that's really, really what it comes down to. And he can twist and turn and try and move the cheese anywhere he wants, but it's... It doesn't matter anymore. I'm kinda over it. I don't I don't even wanna hear about it anymore, to be honest, because I spent a lot of time on it. And when I said something at the time, I was a smaller account, and now people are reaching... The same people that were shitting on me for bringing it up are reaching back out in DMs and saying, like, oh, come on. You've got... You have reached now. Can you please help? No. No. No. No. No. No. You burned that bridge, and then you fucking tried to stomp me out. So, no, you're not getting any help on this. You guys understand what the what the problem is. You go address it. You don't need me. I'm just a pukey little puppet. I'm off doing other things. I love stacks. I support stacks. I like what's being built there, and that's it. End of story. Also, I made an awful lot of money off of Welsh because I traded it. Didn't sit there and fucking save the token 10 fucking dollars. Like, when it went up, I took profits. I didn't sit there and go, it's gonna go way further. I'm gonna get rich. No. I fucking took profits like you should when tokens go up. It was very simple. I know there was a lot of people that got hurt along the way. I'm sorry. I already said I'm... Felt sorry for them a long time ago, and then I got slapped. So, you know, that's where I'm at.
[1:34:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Not like a good old fucking clickbait title also to get them buzzing afterwards. Guys, get your engagement numbers up. I learned from the best. You know what I'm saying? Empress, what's up?
[1:34:22] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Can can I keep my stocks in the stocking now?
[1:34:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, you know, he's still a smart dude. You know, he's not, like, futzing around doing any of that shit. He just got caught. I mean... And I think from what I heard, it's almost to the $204,500,000. Are you fucking kidding me, bro? That shit is crazy talk. That is wild.
[1:34:40] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Lady, you're ominously quiet.
[1:34:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm... Yeah. Another time.
[1:34:48] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Fuck being gently with the chain aw. Just tell me now. I'll go pull it.
[1:34:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. You're fine there.
[1:34:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... There's nothing wrong with the protocol.
[1:34:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, it it does what it's supposed to do, and that's that's all that matters. Code is law, and the code is fine as far as we know to this point.
[1:35:04] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No problem.... It sound like an incredibly lucrative... Like, I... Like, No. Mean, gently with the chainsaw....
[1:35:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Put it this way. I took down... I solo stacked for a very long time. I took down my solo stacking pool, and iStack was stacking down. So, like, I I don't care. I... I'd look... I'm gonna make money off of it either way. So that's that's the objective is to get in this game and make money. There's people who are going to do stupid shit all the time in this space. You either make money or you fall victim to it.
[1:35:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Dude, I don't give a fuck about this guy. I'm just saying that's how I was earning Bitcoin. Is it still the good option for earning Bitcoin? I don't give a fuck about this guy. Okay. Thank you. I'm here. That's it. I don't care.
[1:35:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, if he's
[1:35:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: in charge of the smart contracts,
[1:35:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know. Don't. Don't.
[1:35:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm Why
[1:35:53] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: do you hate me?
[1:35:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No worries. I'm gonna go audit. Gonna made
[1:35:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: go you this way? Auditing contracts all goddamn right now. Thanks.
[1:36:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: So it's where they touched you on
[1:36:02] Samara @thee_samara: the doll.
[1:36:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Seriously. So real quick, by the way, you wanna know what's crazy is, like, when when I get this... It's like... When I get something like this in my head, I go I go ham for, like, I I could go for, like, six, seven hours just, down these rabbit holes. So I started creating agents on bindi.io, and I'm like, alright. I'm connecting hero APIs, this, that. I literally connected my GitHub. There's a whole repo called, like, Welsh hunter... Like, Welsh founder hunter agent. Right? And at one point, like, I was going through, like, the motions. It was checking the transactions, like, what it had. So was trying to look for a link between, like, the deployed contract of Welsh and Philip some way, somehow. Bindi comes back, and it's like, jackpot. And I'm like, what? And it's like, this is what we found. He he used the same computer. This is the fucking time stamp. This is the computer that it was on. This is the type of computer. And I'm like, wait a minute. Bindi, are you sure? And Bindi goes, no. I just made that up. I made all of that up. And I'm like, motherfucker. If I didn't take the second to be like, yo, Bindi, are you... Bro, I was seconds away from sending it to WagMe being like, bitch, we got him. Like, literally Scooby Doo moment, pull off the fucking mask, and it's like, woah. Woah. Got your ass, bro. But, nope. Always double check your AIs, kids. Okay? It is far from a perfect motherfucking science, and don't look like a dick.
[1:37:21] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: AI. I just do it manually. Like, when I went down the map... Monad Coinbase rabbit hole, and then I led to the Palantir rabbit hole, and then, you know, we're all gonna die. It's fine.
[1:37:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, some people like the manual approach. You know? It just depends. It's kinda personal preference. You know what I mean? I'm just... Coma, go for it.
[1:37:41] Kkoma @itskkoma: So this was pretty big news to me, Dave, and that's kinda crazy. But do you still... What's the AI XBT equivalent on stacks?
[1:37:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, s... Satoshi AI or some shit like that, the one that Tyco made?
[1:37:55] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Yeah. So apparent... Now this is just like, you know, it's it's... Those guys sold a shit out of that too at the top. And I was just like, who the fuck? Like, is is anyone looking at the transactions right now? Like, literally, top accounts is just one dude that just spread it across multiple wallets. So now
[1:38:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fucking Tyco, bro.
[1:38:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: Of course
[1:38:15] Kkoma @itskkoma: it is. Exactly. So then now now Tyco you're telling me Tyco was responsible for that and then Philip was responsible for the other thing and they both do stacking DAO. I'm just kinda like...
[1:38:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know who sold before them?
[1:38:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, does it... That's not the point.
[1:38:30] Kkoma @itskkoma: That's not the point, Landy. That's not the point. What I'm
[1:38:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: trying to
[1:38:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: say is was... The the the point is
[1:38:35] Kkoma @itskkoma: richer than god. Okay.
[1:38:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. No. It has nothing to do with that because I'm literally just a pukey little puppet. But if you were watching when it was deployed and and the wallets that were going into it, it was very clear that it was somebody from Teams. Right? It was very, very clear. And and that was, like... It was always, like, who is it? That was, like, you know, the kind of the the refrain from everybody. Was like, who is it that's doing it? And it's like, well, there was only a few suspects.
[1:39:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: I know.
[1:39:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: I But it was in
[1:39:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: that kind of liquidity. Who knows how to write a clarity code that way? Like, there's just not a lot of people to Yeah. From. You know? So, yeah, this is this is kinda unfortunate, to say the least. And then I know, Landy, you and I, we've had our scuffles in the beginning. And... But I would say, like, the one thing that I feel like you and I actually agree on is, like, don't try to fuck over people, you know, or don't be sneaky. And that's kinda where we've always aligned and actually just chilled out and became, I would say, deep... Decent friends, good friends. So, yeah, when I see stuff like this, it's just fucking disappointment times affinity. And, yeah, I'm not surprised. And now they're the ones proposing some stupid thing to dilute my my stacks. And, yeah, I'm supposed to trust them. And I don't know, man. This is why I left... This is why didn't fully leave stacks, but I don't really talk about them as much because it's just like the people at the top are just, like, circle jerking each other and somehow getting rich, and everybody at the bottom is trying to say, community, we need help, you know, blah blah blah. But, like, we don't give a fuck at the end of the day. So I am a lot richer since leaving Stacks. So I... You know what? It is what it is. Yeah.
[1:40:21] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You guys make me wanna buy MFers and say fuck it to the rest of your games.
[1:40:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, you make me... At this point, I I might go out and buy a fucking MFer shit. Like, I mean, when I think Hermetica...
[1:40:34] Kkoma @itskkoma: Sorry. Go ahead.
[1:40:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. Go ahead,.
[1:40:36] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I was gonna say it seems like Hermetica is the... We... Oddly enough, I thought Hermetica is the the weirdest one when I initially started,
[1:40:41] Kkoma @itskkoma: but they seem to be the most, like, normal.
[1:40:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: At first, I was like, how are you getting all this yield? It just sounds too suspicious. But now, you know, it's, yeah, ironic. It does.
[1:40:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hermetica Hermetica is is solid. Look. Yeah. Jacob and the team are solid. And the actual way that it's constructed is solid because the yield isn't coming from inside of the ecosystem. You know, it's like when you have these yield loops, where are they always coming from? They're coming from if it's a DeFi platform or if it's something like the network construction itself, then sure. Okay. If it's a DeFi platform, you know it's a counterparty. But what do they do to boost yields is they have to fund it to attract liquidity to actually facilitate the borrowing and lending process. Right? So that's where they boost yields. And every single platform on every single chain does that. But when you have something like Hermetica where it's getting... Where your yield is coming from the open market, that's the most brilliant way to construct something like that because you you now then open up all of the doors. And you you saw some of the announcements. There's gonna be some more connections to, Hermetica that are coming up. And there's like... That's a really good way to do things. And that kind of stuff, I'm fully behind. Like, I don't... I I think that that's a brilliant idea. It's actually something that I've thought about for a very long time, but he was able to build it. Right? Like, that's something Yeah.
[1:42:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: And just... I don't have the technical expertise. But... I feel like that makes way more sense. But just all this other stuff and then the Alex hack again, fucking in. And then there's just always this one dude in our Stacks chat that always says, oh, these are just lessons that we must learn. You know? Fuck you. You're an investor, obviously. You know, you hear you're saying Thank you. Yeah. So it's
[1:42:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Broke.
[1:42:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: To clean.
[1:42:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know.
[1:42:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm I'm ranting at
[1:42:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: this point, but... Yeah.
[1:42:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'll link up with you guys in in chats because it's not it's not something I wanna discuss on on a space, let alone a recorded space. But I'm gonna... I'll fill you in on some some theories that that I have that are really well working theories considering some of the hijinks. And that's that's something that I think is worth having a discussion about, but I don't think it changes anything even if I have the discussion. It's just that I don't want the the bullshit that goes along with speaking about it publicly. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't it doesn't change anything.
[1:43:03] Kkoma @itskkoma: I want my back to go up. So at the end of the day, still want stacks to do well. It's just... Yeah. Yeah. Frustration.
[1:43:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: And There's there's nothing wrong with the protocol.
[1:43:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's it's brilliant. I think the protocol itself is brilliant.
[1:43:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. And I'll put the... This is the cherry this is the cherry on top. So I pinned it to the top, like, where where this really is just funny. Because, like, where I came into this conversation... Because I didn't I didn't know... Like like, the first two days this was going on, I had no idea what was happening. And they were like, they deleted the blah blah blah. And I'm like, you guys know that you can genuinely use, like, the way back time machine to go see... Like, it's like, he deleted the web page, and it's like, nothing you put online is fucking gone forever. Are you crazy? I went to my little fucking way back time machine. Pulled out the fucking thing, and they were like, dude, how did you do that? And it literally showed the entire fucking thing. And what was the response that he gave? Hey, everyone. I appreciate the passion, and I'm committed to continuing the conversation. I am working with my team to gather all the relevant information so we can reply in the next twenty four hours or so with something complete and not rushed, which this deserves. Appreciate your patience. Do you know what he said? And this is where I chimed in for the first time, and I said, so this right here is how communities keep getting fucked, in in Empress' words, rinsed over and over and over again is what I said. For the record, I'm a fan of Philip Hacks, but when situations like this arise, if you wanna figure out exactly what happened, start removing the feelings and the human aspect to all of it. Philip was in control of the 1,000,000,000. Welsh at one point, he either sold it or removed it. That's it. There's only two options. You were in control of it. Was it burnt? Did you sell it? Did you move it? Which one is it? I said, all this nonsense of committed to continuing the conversation, I wrote, he's literally just buying time. You don't forget what happened to a billion fucking tokens, bro. You just don't. I said, stop being nice and start being real. And I think the the the thing I'll end on also is when you heard, comma, what you said before, I think, is super powerful. Right? Like, we might not... All of us might not agree on a shit ton of stuff, but at the end of the fucking day, like, all of us, the thing that we have in common is we are not out here to fuck anybody else over. We don't need to win at the expense of somebody else. And I think that's what makes this stage and this program and and and us doing this day in and day out so fucking powerful. For real. Now go buy fucking info five when it drops tomorrow or the next day. I'll see you bitches later. Peace.

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