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Episode · Jun 25, 2025 ·

All Things Crypto: Fannie & Freddie Meet Crypto

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Summary

0:04:30

Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev to Join ATC

Dave shared an email from the Robinhood team inviting CEO Vlad Tenev and GM Johan to appear on the show to discuss upcoming crypto announcements and other topics. The group reacted with excitement and joked about questions they might ask such as private keys, account suspensions, and prediction markets. Bread noted the Fannie Mae news as another key subject worth covering.

0:18:00Introduction of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac crypto asset guideline news

Moments0:04:30
0:26:15

Fannie and Freddie Count Crypto as Assets

Dave explained that FHFA Director Bill Pulte ordered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to create guidelines counting crypto on US regulated exchanges as borrower assets for mortgage qualification. Landy said this is massive groundwork for the GENIUS Act, will treat stablecoins as assets, and benefits crypto holders seeking loans without affecting rates. VIPERɳϝƚ connected it to JPMorgan, Coinbase Base, and RWA narratives while EMPress urged rotating from meme coins into TradFi-aligned plays and Landy clarified only 25 percent of OG meme coins may hit new highs with the rest becoming zombie tickers.

0:49:00

Bitcoin Buying via Gold Revaluation

Landy described the White House budget-neutral Bitcoin plan and Bitcoin Act updates including revaluing gold certificates at market price to generate funds for Bitcoin purchases without new spending. He noted the Treasury has already clawed back enough money and the revised approach avoids telegraphing buys. The group discussed Ethereum's potential role in future DeFi-TradFi integration with Chai arguing it is the most robust chain for that purpose versus others.

1:18:20

Hyperliquid Tools and Bitcoin Cycle Analysis

EMPress highlighted a new on-chain farming allocation tool on Hyperliquid and the largest-ever deposit recorded there. A speaker presented a video showing Bitcoin does not fit historical bubble patterns on a log scale as each cycle low remains multiples higher than the prior one. Landy agreed and described an accelerating institutional race for Bitcoin with states like Texas already buying and others considering it.

1:32:00Compression breakout

1:40:00

Tokenomics Regulation and Midnight Airdrop

Landy and ALEX DAMSKER discussed tokenomics, fundraising models, regulatory clarity, and the Clarity Act alongside the GENIUS Act noting how projects often blur utility and immediate token sales. MetaBeast shared news of the Blockchain.Midnight airdrop targeting XRP, Cardano, ETH, and BAT holders with unlocks and a gamified second chance for unclaimed tokens.

Key quotes

“Robinhood CEO, Vlad Tenev, is going to be on all things crypto either tomorrow or Friday, and then we will have their VP on next week promoting their livestream.”

Dave0:04:29Share on X

“This is massive news. I don't see this having any effect on rates... This is probably one of the more massive things, probably the most massive thing that that needs to happen.”

Landy0:28:10Share on X

“TradFi is here. I've been saying it. I'm not... I... Don't fight the tide. Accept what's happening.”

EMPress0:37:38Share on X

“They already have in place a plan for budget neutral accumulation of Bitcoin. Now this is prior to the Bitcoin Act.”

Landy0:57:02Share on X

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