The space opened with casual banter and sandal commentary before shifting into market updates, with Landy highlighting major TradFi and RWA developments including Eric Trump-backed American Bitcoin Corp raising $215M for Bitcoin, Robinhood expanding tokenized stock trading on Arbitrum, Kraken adding tokenized stocks, and Germany's largest banking group resuming Bitcoin trading in its app. The conversation then focused heavily on the chaotic Yapio presale on Arbitrum, where technical failures, a site outage, and a sniper buying far above the max limit left most guaranteed allocators unable to participate, sparking debate on whether refunds or a re-run would occur. Speakers discussed broader ecosystem shifts, stablecoin mechanics, liquidity flows, the importance of following institutional capital into networks like Base and Arbitrum, and the need to move beyond chain maximalism. The group also covered Optimism vs Arbitrum approaches, Ethos reputation system mechanics, and Bitcoin-related projects like DOG and runes. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.
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# All Things Crypto: Does Yapyo mean WAGMI? NOPE | 2025-06-30 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1OwxWXLDOoVKQ | status: approved # Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed. [0:00:20] Voice L: Bitches. What's up? Yeah. Fell asleep watching Netflix and just woke up. Needed a quick little, you [0:00:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: know, forty five minute power nap. So what's up, Amp? Trev, Na, Landy, met the beast. Was cooking. And Yi, what up? Congrats. [0:00:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. A molded is what it is. Meta Beast, what's up? [0:00:51] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Not much. Evidently? You're just waking up? [0:00:58] Kkoma @itskkoma: I [0:00:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: mean, yeah. But, you know, just from, like, little nappy nap time, nothing, you know? Alright. It's good talk. Good. Good to know. And then nothing going on with your day? Nothing happened? Anything eventful? Nothing? No. [0:01:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm doing [0:01:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: inconsequent... Inconsequential AI stuff. Nothing for not... Nothing. No reason other than my own self. Enjoy that, [0:01:30] Kkoma @itskkoma: I guess. [0:01:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I guess is what you would call it. My fun little Barbie things. [0:01:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're still playing with Barbies? Yep. Oh my goodness. [0:01:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That bitch is crazy. That bitch is crazy. I'm telling you. [0:01:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. This is crazy. [0:01:46] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Most Barbies are. [0:01:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. Yep. Yep. That was even scarier. [0:01:53] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And then I had a little fun with... If you got kidnapped, what it might be like. [0:02:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: What? [0:02:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're saying, like, if I got kidnapped, what it might be like with me? [0:02:06] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Why is it so weird in here right now? Hi, guys. [0:02:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Because he's talking to me. That's why. [0:02:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's weird. Yeah. I know. I'm gonna be seriously... Go on mute. What am I doing? Like, get out of here. What is this happening? [0:02:16] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Super weird vibes in here. I feel awkward. Like, I came into some sort of, like, intervention. Like [0:02:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're welcome. Joe, [0:02:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't know if I told you this, Empress, but I'm wearing, like, the coolest sandals ever. [0:02:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: These are really balls [0:02:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: of sandals. [0:02:31] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Landy has outdone himself. I wanted to ready to go. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. You're not taking this from me, Metabeast. I need to read this to you. I need to read you this sentence because I almost fell over. Where is it? Where is it? Here we go. I talked to a friend worth over 1,000,000,000 today for advice on which sandals to go with my outfit. You're insufferable, Andy. Inseferable. Best [0:03:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: part about that is it's it's actually the truth. These are baller ass fucking sandals. I'm not gonna lie. I like these things. [0:03:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: That is the biggest oxymoron. I've... That is the most oxymoronic statement I've ever heard in my life. Baller ass... Number one, like, tell me there is no, like, tongue in the thing. It's not like... They're not like Havianas. Like, they're they're just like Nike flip flops. Oh, thank god. [0:03:30] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Rainbow samples are awesome. Watch them out. [0:03:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I thought we lost you there for a second. The shit. Lost you there for a second. For you, okay. Yeah. You with the stick figure feet? No problem. By the way, you're wearing your wrong PFP. Switch up. I don't know who the fuck [0:03:43] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: that is. You gotta click it. It switched. [0:03:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, for fuck's sake. Alright. There we go. Much better. Sweet. Trav, what's up? Help. [0:03:53] Trav @trav_4211: Yo, Dave. What's happening, man? [0:03:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's good, my bro? How we doing? [0:03:58] Trav @trav_4211: Yo. Those those allocations went out today for the WagMeHUB info file, I held mine. [0:04:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, bro. Me... Bro, let me tell you something. I I held the majority of the allocations that I got. I mean, I might be stupid or dumb or whatever, but I don't know. Like, I, you know, I sold probably maybe, like, fucking 15% of... 20% of the bag that I got initially when there's probably a lot more that's coming down the pipe, but... Yeah. I don't know. [0:04:25] Trav @trav_4211: Oh, bro, man. This has... Man, this thing gonna pump mad. They just gonna wait till everybody sell off. Yeah. [0:04:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Agreed, man. Agreed. I'm glad you guys are fucking along for the ride, bro. [0:04:36] Trav @trav_4211: Hey. So it's it's part of the build. [0:04:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I'm at a beast now. Go back on mute. Don't you dare. [0:04:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. One of the things I... What I did do was not in consequent in whatever the fucking word is I'm trying to say. It actually has to do with WagMeInfoFi. I'll post it. [0:04:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. That's productive. Thank you. Travis, did you space with Sunny D go? I I couldn't. Man, we had to run magic hour this week because we missed the last fucking week. I don't wanna go too... I hate missing two weeks in a row, but how did it go? How did the Tron space go? [0:05:09] Trav @trav_4211: Hey. It was good, man. We thought it was, you know, a stablecoin summer conversation. It's... Everybody's super bullish waiting to see what's coming down the pipeline. It was exciting. And we and we talk a little bit about, mind share and how they're tracking that and how that's becoming a marketing strategy. I mean, well, you already know that because with the info five, but it's... You know, people are starting to catch on to this. [0:05:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it. Beautiful, bro. And, yeah, and I was telling Sunny d, you know, I said, though, let's get together. Let's figure out, Let's see if we can put together some sort of, like, weekly tron show that we can maybe host on the Wagmy Hub space. You know what mean? [0:05:46] Trav @trav_4211: That's a bet. Yeah. D and I talked about that as well. [0:05:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I'm so down, man. Like like, right now... So I gotta I gotta call at six. So in twenty minutes, fucking... You fucking heathens are gonna essentially be running this fucking prison, and I need to go take this call, with the WagMehub team. So Mhmm. Yeah. You guys essentially... Like, essentially, I'm gonna talk to them and what we've initially discussed, I think we're gonna talk about kinda, like, my future and what's gonna happen over there and and what we're doing. And I I made it really clear to them that I wanna head up the entire, like, WagMe media, like, bit. You know what I mean? So, yeah, if all goes well, knock on wood, and, you know, we'll see what's what. But I am gonna be looking for content all day every day, and I want really good fucking content. And and you guys are right... Literally right in front of me. So, yeah, I'm gonna be tapping into the people that I know, the fucking... Like, all this shit. You know what I'm saying? So Tron would fit a fucking... A Tron Tuesday or Thursday. Just makes fucking sense, bro. [0:06:47] Trav @trav_4211: Hell, yeah. I mean, we need to intermingle all of these communities and, like, you're at the center of it, bro. Let's do it. We're ready. [0:06:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I mean, [0:06:55] Trav @trav_4211: we're even we're we're even pitching Tron down on something right now to actually have... You know, know, get funding for an initiative that we have planned. So, yeah, it fits in line with all of this. So, yeah, we ready. [0:07:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, bro. I love it, man. And I appreciate, like, all the support, bro. Trav, you and Sonny d have been fucking solid as a motherfucking rock for me, man. So I appreciate you guys, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sunny d, real quick before I say what's up to Cool. What's going on, bro? How are you? I'm doing super duper. It's a beautiful day here in my corner of the world. It's actually sunny, and it's warm. It's almost as if I was in the Bay Area. Where the fuck has Gamer been at? [0:07:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Thank you. [0:07:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where has Gamer actually been? Like, what is his story? Did he make this much money that he was just like? [0:07:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bitcoin spaces, brother. He's always in a Bitcoin space. [0:07:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, he's too good to fucking grace our fucking stage now. It's like, oh, Dave, let me fucking shave. Motherfucker takes over the whole conversation. [0:07:55] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Wait. You can outgrow your stage?... [0:07:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Summer. Does that mean I'm regretting?... Summer. [0:07:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. This is... Even this is a move for you. This is not even a lateral move. You're definitely regressing, by the way. You're... You mean you're up in the world? Yeah. Exactly. That's sad. [0:08:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I got I got you two excellent pieces of content up above. [0:08:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Beautiful. Thank you, sir. [0:08:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Appreciate Can I tokenize this content through Zoro? [0:08:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't you I don't [0:08:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: know, but I've been I've been trying to make a POAP for the last two episodes on root network thing that's in testing, and it's not. I got closer, but I still couldn't get it to Mint. [0:08:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: We gotta get you we gotta get you up to speed on this blockchain stuff. You know what I mean? I feel like you're hitting some hurdles that none of us are really hitting, and, like, I feel like you've yet to see your your true stride. So we we gotta help you out. Yeah. Here we go with the hand on the intros. What? [0:08:59] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Look. I'm sorry. But did anyone notice that Landy's giddy again? It's disturbing. And he has the new sandals. [0:09:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Only you give too much of a shit about how Landy the puppet is too fucking... [0:09:09] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Well, I mean, you... Nobody completely gets fuck.... Miss the Arbitrum Robin Hood call I put in the chat that Landy led us to. That's facts. So I mean [0:09:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: That is facts. [0:09:17] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. Maybe [0:09:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [0:09:19] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Some people like the money. But I I get it, Dave. That's that's fine. No no problem. [0:09:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys, listen. I gotta fucking... I gotta call I need to prep for. Cool. What's up? Fucking... These freaking... These cycles are running the asylum out here. What's good? [0:09:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hey. Hey. Hey. How you [0:09:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: guys doing? Happy Monday. Happy New week. Tomorrow, July 1. Happy New month tomorrow. But, yeah, man, we're good. Let's let's let's let's go on with the show, man. Hope you guys doing okay. [0:09:43] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Get him, Cole. [0:09:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Cool. [0:09:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's that's the extent of it, Empress. That's literally the extent of it. Cool to fuck. He might be fuck. He might be erased in the dark, but at the end of the day, he's a big teddy bear. It's not really harmful at all. [0:10:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Are you having a seizure? [0:10:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. That's how good my baby is. Fucking goddamn. Thank you, empress. It was so good. Guys, I literally saw nothing on the timeline. I know nothing of the Arbitrum Robin Hood news, maybe a little bit like a headline. So, and plus the fact that I'm gonna be disappearing in fifteen minutes. The space will be open, but I just have to take a call on the laptop. But please, by all means, somebody fill me in. Empress, if you'd like, tell me about the Robin Hood, Yapio, Landy. Please, if you wanna steal that thunder, it's all you. [0:10:33] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I would love for Landy to tell you because that's all traditional finance. I just swap. [0:10:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yay. First, I'm gonna trigger at least one person I know that sits in the grease trap here. Eric Trump backed American Bitcoin Corp has just raised another $215,000,000 to buy Bitcoin. And if you wanna get into a little bit of the Arbitrum news, well, here's the funny part about that. This was pretty well known. They've been working with Arbitrum for a while. They are now open... Opening up trading in the EU. That little party is kinda weird and dystopian, I've heard, but their stock has done well. And in their wallet, you can cross train swap with Arbitrum. And they have now termed or coined the term... Oh, this is weird. They've coined the term stock token because you can trade stocks. [0:11:33] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: That's hilarious. Coin the term for the... Yeah. I got you. [0:11:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I don't. It's it's... I don't like stock token. Essentially, it's RWAs. It's tokenized stocks. So this is a big deal. Why? Because on the same day that this is going on, Kraken announced that you'll be able to trade tokenized stocks on their exchange as well. Now there's only really one other major American [0:11:55] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: exchange that we're working redundancies? [0:11:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. This is how we move to a new system. Okay? Let me have my... Let me have... Let me eat. The S and P five hundred has had its best monthly close in history, all time high. Did I mention that Eric Trump backed American Bitcoin Corp just raised another $215,000,000 to buy big... I don't know if I mentioned that already, but I know that it's incredibly triggering for at least one person in the grease trap. So Eric Trump understands Bitcoin better than you do, buddy. But that's okay. Let's move on to, what else did I see here? Oh, yes. Germany, Germany's biggest banking group is going to allowed... Allow a a Bitcoin trading Bitcoin trading in their app, and I forget which banking group this was because I only just saw the headline. So you're gonna have to forgive me for, yes. It's, it's spark spark... Sparks... Spark... Spark or whatever it's called. They used to allow trading, and now they're going back. They're gonna allow trading, but it's all within a year. It doesn't really matter. So have fun with that information. Do with that what you will. [0:13:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is anyone gonna stop him? [0:13:14] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Or, like, [0:13:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: if he's gonna let him run a lot, like I [0:13:17] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: love that. That means that's that's that's giddy landing too. That means I don't have to extract teeth. He's not hiding anything. He's just dunking on everyone. That's fuck you, Landy. I love that land. [0:13:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Look at that. [0:13:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. You know what I was calling... I was on some some spaces at one time, and I was like, you know, this is a Six Sigma event, probably a good time to buy. And people were crying in tears, and, oh my god, Trump is destroying the market, and the market's never gonna come back. And then we v recovered to all... New all time highs. And Eric Trump doesn't know anything about Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, yet he's out here freaking raking in money for this company to, to become a treasury company just like all the rest are gonna be. So turns out that I might know what I'm talking about with some of these things. [0:14:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? You, Andy... Landy. [0:14:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Lazy Andy strikes again. [0:14:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, oh, oh, I got one. Hit us. Don't make us wait. What? Hit us. What you got? SRM staked over 360,000,000 TRX. So now those who hold SRM are gonna enjoy up to 10% yield. Where is the price on SRM, by the way? [0:14:47] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I don't even know what that is. [0:14:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think it's, $8. Beautiful. $8.70 KOL and... Me, the KOL of KOL influencers, Empress, called this one from jump the second the story dropped. I was the one that put this out and said SRM to $20. [0:15:03] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Is that a KOL coin? [0:15:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's a fucking stock. It's literally listed on the Nasdaq. But, yeah, TradFi is not your thing. So... But I'm just a k o... I'm just an MJO. [0:15:14] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, I don't think make it. Either. I didn't know you were sued. Sorry. [0:15:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Whatever. It's fine. But, Sunnyv, that's great news. Oh, shoot. One of my ear pods just died. Great news. SRM now dividend dividend bearing SRM from defunct toy company to now fucking, like, staking 300,000,000 TRX, and now, like, you get to fucking reap the benefits of passive income as Sunny... As plainly as Sunny d has been saying in every fucking goddamn fucking space this entire [0:15:48] Trav @trav_4211: country. Because they're renting energy. Like, the way they're utilizing this is the way we talk about talk about it on our spaces and telling people to approach it this way, you know, you can self fund yourself through the Tron ecosystem. It's great. [0:16:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, kinda imagine if you're on ETH and that... Well, however, the GUI or whatever that gas token is. [0:16:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Imagine if [0:16:13] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: that... GUI. [0:16:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay? No need for that. There was [0:16:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: no need for that. There was no there was no need [0:16:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: for that. [0:16:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: You leave Sunny d b. [0:16:21] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No way. [0:16:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: And it's not [0:16:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: a focus for the record. You leave him the fuck you leave him the fuck alone. So go ahead and use Sunny d. If you were able to commoditize that, that's what energy is on Tron. Bam. K? [0:16:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't know what just happened there. [0:16:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm a tell you what just happened. Sonny d was schooling all you for. [0:16:42] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: He was schooling you on what? Because all I know is I am not hopping on a chain that doesn't know the the dinosaur chain with the gases on the dinosaur chain. I'm going, what kind of fucking two year old can't figure that history out? You better watch yourself, Dave. [0:16:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is crazy talk right now. You see what's going on here? Still looks like CYO. [0:17:00] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I was about to throw Sunnyd Flowers. Was about to tell him that I was getting low key offended for him. [0:17:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: We will not have chainism on this continent. Exactly. [0:17:11] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: And all these people out here going, well, you know what? I've kinda thought that Tron was a sleeper. Bitch, you did [0:17:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: not. You were a flutter. [0:17:18] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I learned this from setting me. Shut up. [0:17:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Missy. Shut up. [0:17:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Paula... Gideon Landy, jump in here. [0:17:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: All I heard was Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Trap. [0:17:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Blah blah blah. [0:17:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Cool. The [0:17:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: wheels are falling off, though. I need help. No. No. No. The wheels [0:17:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: are are So certainly I... I'm actually... You know what? I'm gonna throw Sunny d and trap a lot of flowers here because I've to be. I've learned more in, like, three spaces that I've gone to that they run about how things actually work over there than I have learned in, like, I don't know, two years of research of trying to figure out what the hell is going on over there. And I'm being serious. Like, I was like, oh, you know what? Let me move some funds now. I actually understand what this is and how it works. So big big shout out to to Sonny, Dee, and Trav because that that actually is important. And there's a lot of things that are coming up. Look. Justin Sun is not involved in politics here in The United States. Well, Justin is not involved with the Trumps and and with crypto policy here in The United States for no reason. So I suspect... And he's not involved in World Liberty Financial for no reason. I mean, come on. Look. There's... There is a lot more to this. And when you consider all the legislation that's moving and how the SEC is starting to change stance on certain thing, it's... If you don't keep track of those wider movements in in relationships with larger players that have tons of money, then you will be left on the sidelines chasing ghosts. You're gonna be chasing the ghosts of stablecoins past here soon if you don't pay attention. So I really do think that it pays dividends. Weird. Pays dividends. What if you were to fund and pay dividends out through all kinds of crypto through your... Oh, wait. They're already doing all of this. Right? So this this is That [0:19:24] Voice K: was a metaphor, but not really a metaphor. You get it? [0:19:27] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Wait. Did you just take my flowers to a Mexican hat dance on the flowers I was trying to give and be all, like, here's why my flowers are better. And then take my conspiracy theory and be all, you should do this too. Be a conspiracy. What's with you, Landy? [0:19:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I learned from the best. And these sandals are fucking comfortable. [0:19:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys. [0:19:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, I can't believe how comfortable [0:19:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: they Did you hear what happened, though, just now? Before? Like, empress literally said, Chunkla. Metabies, were you paying attention? She said Chunkla. [0:19:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. She did? [0:19:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh my god. [0:19:59] Voice L: She said Chunkla. [0:19:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: I told you this was meant to be. [0:20:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's not the first time. What? [0:20:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: You do realize she's gonna murder me later. Right? [0:20:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fine. But I don't give it... Don't give you shit if she murders me. [0:20:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't [0:20:07] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: know why you think it's relegated to you. I'm a That's lining up thing. I I live at the top of the two rivers converge in the woods, and it's on a hill. We good. [0:20:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Down by the river. [0:20:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, the only thing about about sandals or trunk was is your socks don't get moist. Who wears socks with sandals? [0:20:24] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Color is your trunk, boss? [0:20:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Pretty dry right now, Sunny. [0:20:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you saying you wear socks with sandal? This is... I will not have this conversation on this fucking... There's no way. Oh, what color is it? I'll kill every single one of you. This is insane. Don't you dare. [0:20:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Purple. Metabolism Boost purple. Socks? [0:20:39] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, so, yes, low key. Sunny, Trev, I've been yelling at people. I'm like, fuck you. You hated Tron. You called it a grip. You don't know anything. You better go to the other spaces. [0:20:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. That was the comeback. I was... I do have to admit that sometimes I do wear socks with flip flops because it kinda reminds me of You were doing well, bro. You were doing so [0:21:02] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: that's an easy. [0:21:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was. [0:21:05] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, okay. I'm telling everybody from now on, it's totally gripped. [0:21:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Exactly. You probably wear the exact socks as well. [0:21:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're black socks, though. I don't wear [0:21:13] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: white socks with them. God. For [0:21:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: fuck Are you wearing [0:21:18] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: blue socks? [0:21:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You didn't you the best [0:21:21] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I may have forgiven you now, Sunny. [0:21:23] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. Because then he goes and he takes the socks off eventually, and he's... He got the sandals, and his feet are covered in weird black sock lid. This is a horror story. [0:21:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. See, the best part is is that he's wearing a backpack that's actually a turtle shell, and that is the absolute best part of that entire story. And he didn't get to it, and everyone missed it. Now I'm sad. So I'm gonna go put on some socks with these sandals. I'll be right back. [0:21:48] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Why did [0:21:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I just picture Sunny D in front of a fucking rat in a fucking karate gig going, hi. Yes, master Spencer. [0:21:57] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Why is that shark up? Because you guys just need to get beat the fuck out of it with the freaking sandals and meet the brakes off you. [0:22:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You still need to to tell us what color it is. [0:22:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nobody wants to know. Purple. Just crazy. Socks with sandals. Like, I... If I could literally No. That's not right now. Just boom. Like like, raise your They're dark brown. Oh. Bottom line. Dress socks? Yeah. Well, they look good. I look like a ninja when I wear them. Dress socks. [0:22:30] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: I mean, socks with flip flops, it's unexcusable. Socks, if you're wearing, like, some slides, like those type of sandals, like [0:22:38] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: That's the only time. Like, post game when you're walking off the court because you're saving your shoes. [0:22:44] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: But, yeah, definitely socks with flip flops is... That's like eating pizza from the back. That's stupid. [0:22:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. I'm always walking off this course because I got that passive income game. [0:22:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sunny d just dunked on all you motherfuckers. You say, you know what? I get to wear whatever the fuck I want. [0:23:03] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Because you don't meet the height requirement on the real court. [0:23:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Because my money... Oh, you ain't never messed Sunny d in person, have you? Yeah. Because my money makes me money. That's a boy son ED. Way to fucking dunk on these fools. Cool, comma, tell us how much fucking money you made today with Yapio, Arbijum. Let's hear it. [0:23:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro, I don't... I usually wanna know, man. It was a it was it was a good day. It was a bad day. Bad day, good day. I'm I'm sure Koman knows what I'm talking about. It was it was crazy. Crypto's crazy, man. But the the funny thing... I'm not I'm not even mad, though. I mean, that's I'm not even mad. I... My expectations are always zero. I learned my lesson a couple years ago, but we had the craziest shit happen to us. It is nuts. So we we use... I'm sure you saw the app here all over the place. That's the, projects, but... Back or or, you know, kind of backed by by Arbitrum. They launched their presale this morning. For the past week, we've been yap yoing and doing all that stuff. So... Oh, boy. So the presale was this morning, like, I think 7AM my time or 8AM. I I got guaranteed allocation. No problem. This... So we we... It was, like, thirty minutes before the launch of the token, and the site went down. Site went down. Site went down. No word from the team. No word from Arbitral. No word from Yapio. No word from GU trade as a platform, the decks. Nothing. Refreshed. Now refresh refresh. Nothing happened. 08:00 came. Nothing happened. No announcements. We got into the the the presale window. No announcements. Then, you know, then there was an announcement. Oh, things are gonna come out soon. Sorry for the inconvenience. Refresh. Refresh. Nothing happened. Nothing happened. Next thing you know, they said, oh, yeah. We're back up. I got... We got got computer, on sold out in in in sixty seconds. We were supposed to have thirty minutes guarantee time for the, you know, guarantee people. So 1,000 people got got guarantee allocation. I'm sure probably less than 1%. Less than 1% got in. Probably, maybe, like, nine or 20 people got in out of 1,000. And plus, we we... They saw... They tried the contract and said that they... There was a 16,000... Remember, there's a... There was a max buy for $3,300. Somehow, some ways, someone had access to buy over $16 of this thing. But the the the the more the moral of the story is this might be one of the biggest scams I've I've ever seen in crypto. I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. I've seen some shit, bro, in crypto, but this this was It [0:26:00] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: sounds like Elementals. [0:26:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. Like like this, I've been to some stuff. The the reason why this was a big scam, though not scam has been to scam people, the biggest letdown I've ever seen because Arbitrum... They leverage Arbitrum's name, and it it drove up the hype like I like I never seen before. And people didn't sleep, bro. No joke. People were up all night to increase the leaderboard standing, and they screwed us big time, bro. So... But right now, I don't know I don't know what the word is. I'm not even tripping because, like I said before, crypto is... It's it's it's... You know, there's no crying in the casino, man. I wasn't even mad, bro. No joke. My my wife was more mad. I was like, bro, I'm not... It's all good, man. It's what it is. The casino is a casino. You don't cry in this casino. You move on to the next thing. If they remedy this situation, I'm not... Look. It's what it is, man. That's why I keep telling you guys. I think you cannot put all your eggs in one basket, man. I'm in so many different things. This one is another letdown, but Coma had guarantee allocation too, so I don't know if he got in. Bro, Coma, can can you give the audience your your whole story? [0:27:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real quick. Cool. Right... Comma, right before you go, I do wanna say thank you for saying this on this space because this makes... Now look. We might not have gotten fucking thousands of dollar. Like, people might have gotten thousand dollars, but this makes this WagMe fucking drop. And, like, the shit that we did over the last fucking week or two in the army that we assembled, everybody making sure the... Like, almost... I think 95, 96% of the WagMe folks that sport that badge, like, ended up getting, like, the allocation that they were supposed to. So thank you for for for admitting that and and and obviously showing that, you know, real people... Like, this this is the this is the fucking game out here, man. This is the fucking crazy game. Empress, hold up. Let's hear from Koma, and then we'll go... I'll come right back to you. Koma? [0:27:49] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. No. I was waiting till after, Koma. [0:27:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Go ahead, Koma. Let's let's see your your... I mean, not sob story. Excuse me. Your your account of the situation. [0:27:58] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. You know, I... Man, living on the West Coast sucks, by the way. I don't know if you guys can hear me, but I woke up at 03:20AM because Wagmey decided to set to do the TG then. That that was fun. And then I just... And then I saw that the... Well, I can't even think of the words right now. I'm so tired. My... And then, yeah, was, like, at six something AM. So, basically, I was just, like, trying to figure out what the hell is going on. And then since I was already up, I decided to start making, like, some virtuals content. And then I found out the website was shut down... Or, like, was down like what was saying. So I was just completely ignoring it until, you know, I decided to come back up. And they said that you're gonna have, like, a thirty minute window, so I just assumed that they're gonna extend the time. But then one of my buddies messaged me on on XO saying, hey, dude. You have three minutes to to to get your allocation. So I literally was, like, trying so hard to, like, approve the... Sign the message, and I was able to get the... I was able to get my allocation, but then, apparently, not a lot of people were. So I I made a post immediately right after of, like, the joker from the Batman saying, here we go because I knew all the fun was gonna be pretty massive. And apparently, this one bot or sniper bought $16,000 worth of yapio. So luckily, you know, the the team did respond and they said that, like, there's no there's no distribution of these Yapio tokens yet. Right? So it's very possible that everyone could... Everyone's probably just gonna get their refund and then they're gonna do it all over again and probably just reward... But not reward, but make up for the thousand people that missed out probably. So I'm not too worried about it one way or the other. We're either getting a refund, this was, a really failed experiment or oh, we'll just take two. But the... Dude, crypto moves so fast. I kid you not. Like, every... Like, I saw it on the timeline, like, f Arbitrum. Arbitrum sucks. Why why why would you ever build on Arbitrum? And then literally, like, an hour later, Arbitrum and Robinhood announcement, everyone's like, oh my god. [0:30:11] Voice K: I love Arbitrum. Arbitrum's, like, really bringing in the masses. You know, Robinhood. Oh my god. Like, why did they choose Arbitrum? Like, Arbitrum is awesome. Pump the price. And it's just like... [0:30:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: I think what Yapio was trying to do was they're trying to leverage off the big announcement. And, yeah, unfortunately, they did not do as well. But, you know, Arbitrum as a whole, I think they're gonna do a okay. Like, the... Infofy is just one of those things that they're definitely trying to experiment with. Hopefully, you know, it's better round two, but we'll see. [0:30:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. Come on. So the the the sad part is this shit is going to pump to Valhalla. That's that's the sad part. I know that this is the crypto. So I'm gonna be seeing people claiming probably making 50 or $100 from from this. I... Because I can already see it. But like I said, this is crypto. There's no crime in the casino. So it's all gravy, man. All gravy. [0:31:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. So... But, comma, you got your allocation is what you're saying? [0:31:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: I did, but, honestly, so many people didn't. I feel like they're gonna issue refunds. [0:31:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: And if they don't, you're the joker motherfucker walking away laughing at everybody while the hospital blows up in the motherfucking background. [0:31:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: You know, at at the same time, I I kinda want them to get refunds because the dude... Like, the sniper has... Like, the public sale, there was, like, 50% still left, apparently all the snipers took it. So what do you think they're gonna do? They're probably gonna just dump it. And Landy, behind the scenes, probably has a liquidity pool up, and he's just probably just taking his money that way. So if anything, the only people that win is Landy and the the snipers. Landy and the snipers. That could be a, like, bandit. Yeah. [0:31:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Landy and the snipers. It is. [0:31:55] Voice K: Emperor's bill for it? [0:31:58] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. It's interesting. Like, narcissism, BPD, these are all maladaptive coping mechanisms born out of trauma. They're gonna come up with a weird CT culture one that are hyper adaptive, and we're all okay with the clusterfucks that happen. It's cool. Let's get... Everything's fine. You're on fire. No. It's good. We're fucking great. It's good, which is cool. Like, we've all adapted. We pivoted. We we don't even say... We're we're here like, we just got wrecked for a 100... It's good, though. It's good. We're fine. We're happy. It's good. And I... But, like, made me think, like, yay. We're all programmed. We've all got this unlocked. But, like, people coming in, they're not, like, what... They're not brainwashed, guys. They don't know, like, our our cultural, quote, unquote, norms. They're not gonna be as, oh, that happened. So it's it's gonna get interesting with the more people coming in and then, like, our little voices aren't gonna shame them into submission. Like, they're gonna get mad. So it'll be an interesting shift. [0:33:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was a hyperplug right in the beginning. That was pretty well placed, by the way. [0:33:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what else is gonna be a big shift? Circle filing as a National Trust Bank, filing for their National Trust Bank license. It's almost like the bankers are gearing up to come here, and everyone is racing right now to make as much money as they possibly can so that they can figure out where that liquidity is gonna go so they can be there first. And this is kinda... We're we're starting to see things hit their stride in Washington and on... In the banking sector. And, if you're here siloed in crypto and just thinking on a day to day basis, the bigger picture isn't gonna be as clear. So understand that the liquidity that's going to come in is is going to be big because they need it to be big. They need to get their tokens out there. So I've said this before many, many times where the liquidity flows, the gains will go, and that's where the volume's gonna be. And if you are here now and you're listening to this, start getting... Go write on a piece of paper where you see things going and what you are seeing in the news, what you're hearing, all the different deals that are happening. I mean, shit. John Deaton just posted today about about the... What is it? What's the guy's name? General Lee, Max Lee, Tommy Lee. Tom Lee. The the strategist, the market wizard. Yeah. No. Not him. The market wizard guy who's... [0:35:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Ottley Crew? [0:35:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. He's setting up... Or he's looking to set up a, basically, a strategy version of Ethereum as a company. So, like, understand that this is... You gotta learn how to ride the coattails from here on out. Where the big money's gonna go, that's where you're gonna make the most the most money. Like, the trenches no longer are going to... You'll still make money, of course, if you know what you're doing in the trenches, but you gotta learn to trade, and you gotta learn to go and hold the most desirable assets that they wanna hold. And that's the big thing. And get as much funding as you possibly can. Get your funds up. Get your Yaps. Get your InfoFi. Get all that money and lock it in because you're gonna need to deploy it where they're going. And if you miss your shot, that market's gonna come back. Don't get sad. Don't be like, oh, I gotta chase. If you miss your shot, you sit on your hands, you collect, you get interest, you get yield, and all that great stuff, and then you deploy when the time is right. That is... I... I'm telling you right now, there's a reason why I'm giddy today because I've heard some very good things. I've had some very good conversations conversations outside of CryptoX and Crypto Twitter that are very encouraging and can allow many people to actually make a lot of money. Unfortunately, people get inside their own heads, and they don't... They chase. They chase everything. And if you can sit back and you can tweet and make money, if you can make money just hosting, whatever you could do, make as much damn money as you possibly can. Like, right now, get on the ball. You can start today. You'll be okay. You can miss the next few pumps because the dumps are where you wanna be at. [0:36:56] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I know I thought it's down there. [0:36:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Never stop. Let me tell. [0:37:00] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Landy, Too broad. [0:37:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did people... Get bitches? [0:37:06] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. No. No. No. Where did people... I mean, yes. And you know that I shared the same sentiment I've been screaming it. But too broad for people who have no fucking clue outside of... The whole reason they got into crypto and stuff is that it it made, like, all of this trading thing and finances and whatever else accessible who have no fucking clue about this TradFi infiltration that's going to make it a complete takeover, where can they look? [0:37:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look at the announcements of where they're gonna be launching stablecoins, please, and watch the flows. Learn how to read TVL. I don't care. Just learn... Go to DeFi Lama and look at TVL. And and, you know, there... What doesn't show there is the institutional institutional flow. Flow. You'll see some of the TVL will kinda leak over. It's kinda like a... It's it's, you know, maybe a little bit you can see. Right now, a lot of stuff is being planned for linking to Base and Coinbase. Why? Because they are, like, the primary custodian for a lot of these spot ETFs, and they're going to be the primary custodian in many cases along with partners, but they have the exchange. Right? They have the connections. They can pick up the phone and call OTC desks all around the world, and people will scramble to answer. Right? Like, that is where they're at, including their own. Right? So that's where you're gonna see a lot of this go because that's what the bigger players have chosen as the custodian. So when these banks are coming in, they're gonna come in and likely come in that side, especially with JPMD. I'm telling you, it's such a big deal with JPMD, and now you see Circle moving to... For bank status. This is... And and Circle's already on all of the major networks. Right? Like, the USDC is already kinda out there and everywhere, and they're going to now start to clamp down in areas and fund up areas. Right? So that's... The problem that we have in this space is liquidity. So once you see where it's going, okay. JPMD is on base. Right? Well, once that's available to the public and it's not just for institutional investors, Right? Where is it... It's gonna be on base. Okay. Where does it go from there? Right? Like, what networks do they branch out to from there? Because they're going to bridge to all of these other places and all of these different stablecoins will. And what you wanna do is you wanna watch where that's flowing. Okay. It's flowing from base to maybe Tron, maybe maybe Tron to base. Where is the money going? Because they don't have a foothold. Right? So they have to go and say, hey. We're gonna... We want to put our coin on your platform. Therefore, we have to fund these liquidity pools in in the decentralized ecosystems. They have no other choice. That means the floodgates open, we start getting liquidity, everything goes pumpity pumps because then everybody races to transfer their coins out to get that liquidity out because now you have an imbalance pair in the pools. So this is a symbiotic relationship between the coins and the liquidity that's coming in, and they will pick the winners. Understand that they will pick the winners. So you have to go where their liquidity is gonna go because as soon as they fund up those pools and platforms, those coins go boom to the upside. So that's where you just have to pay attention to DeFi, Llama, understand a little bit about the networks that you are on, and make sure that you're looking outside of that bubble. Because you can't just be like, hey. I'm a Bitcoin guy, so I'm not gonna look at Ethereum or Tron or SUI or SOL or any of these other ones because I'm a maxi or whatever. No. You go where the money goes. And that's that's where we are just seeing... This is the literal tip of the iceberg with a lot of this stuff. There's many different ways. And over the course of the next few months, I guarantee Dave, me, Kool, Empress Koma, Bildo, Sunny, Trav, Meta Beast, everybody's gonna be talking about where this stuff is going because it's gonna hit the news. And just pay attention. Don't fade. [0:41:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what I need hybrid, Wendy. [0:41:27] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Yeah. That's so true because, like, honestly, I I was looking at the USDC inflows for Arbitrum, like, week over... Like, day... Like, pretty much, like, every day and then looking at the week by week. And I was like, what the hell? Hell, like, 7%, 8% increase? Like, what is going on? And then I just assumed that it was because of hyperliquid because that's generally what people have been doing to to to gamble with perps, but it just felt, like, really abnormal to me. I I didn't know what what it was, but, obviously, this announcement was, in hindsight, like, there... It must have been a big announcement coming because somehow the money inflows were coming. So, yeah, good good good call out, Andy. It is still pretty crazy to me how much Tron has in stables. So if anything Koma. People might wanna take a look at that too again and again and again. [0:42:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Koma, I'm gonna I'm gonna explain something very, very clearly just for a moment. Sorry, Empress. The reason why you see things like like these stables going to Arbitrum is because on the back end, what do you think they're trading those tokenized pairs with on Arbitrum? [0:42:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Have to [0:42:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: be a stable on the other side. Right? Yeah. There has to be a vector. Even if it's transparent, it shows up as USD in your account at the end of the day. Because it is on the blockchain still, it has to be treated with a stable pair. So what have they chosen? Well, they've chosen that USDC because USDT has... You know, this is a competition. And right now, the adoption that Circle is getting with all of their prior relationships is very, very big. But then there's more competitors are gonna enter the game, so they're all gonna fight to be the ones that come out on top. So wherever those stables are going is wherever the money is gonna go because it's just a vector for the US dollar at the end of the day. Yeah. [0:43:13] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. No. I agree. And then... Sorry. Empress, did you wanna say something about it? [0:43:18] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. Come on. Go ahead. Land your plane. I can go after. No? [0:43:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. And, know, it's funny because, like, I was actually in a space this morning and people were just like, why Arbitrum? Arbitrum makes no sense. Like, why not any other l two? Blah blah blah blah blah. But then I I realized, like... I mean, there's... It's multifaceted. Right? Because, yes, the stable inflows are super important, and that's probably the biggest importance. But I don't know if people notice, but Robinhood wants to make their own chain at the end of the day. Right? Like, right now, in the beginning, they're gonna tokenize all of these, like, stocks with... Through Arbitrum one, which is, the normal l two secured by Ethereum. But, eventually, they're gonna get into using our Arbitrum Orbit. And Arbitrum Orbit allows you to create your own l two, and essentially, it's powered by... Sorry, powered by Arbitrum, quote, unquote, secured by Ethereum. So at the end of the day, like, Robinhood just wants their own chain, and and Arbitron just allows it to to be so much easier to transition from leveraging the current chain to creating their own chain. And on top of that, they have this thing called Stylus, which... It's like another... It's like Solidity, but built in Rust. And I bet you all of these Robinhood developers that are more used to, like, writing code in web two are gonna feel way more comfortable writing Spark contracts if if needed. Right? Because they're gonna have to be more familiar with, like, on chain development. And if you're writing a Solidity where, you know, it's been historically known for, you know, like, reentricy reentricy attacks and stuff like that, like, being able to just write in Rust where most developers are familiar with, that's gonna make life a lot easier. So now you have your own chain. The transition's way easier. You had your devs who are happy, and then you have liquidity coming in. It just made sense that Arbitrum was the choice because... What's the other choice? Right? Base? You're not you're not gonna choose base because, obviously, competitors, right, with Coinbase. So, yeah, in hindsight, it all made sense. But, yeah, sometimes it's just kinda crazy because you're so locked in on, like, one single thing. And for me, that was, like,. I was just, like, looking at all the tech. And when I was researching Arbitron, was like, dude, there's just so much stuff going on here. And, yeah, it it does make sense to me, but it's, like, it's all, like, in hindsight looking back at it. So, yeah, I'm pretty, pretty, pretty stoked. Probably gonna get a good payout from them for the first month of the app being, but I'm happy I got to, like, research into all of their, like, deep tech because it's insane what they're doing there. [0:45:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that you picked your head up, Koma, and that you realize that, like, it's not everybody... Right? You You know I'm saying? Because, like, a lot of people hear you and cool talking about, like, head down, head down, head down, and it's almost like tunnel vision. But the fact that, like, you were able to, like, genuinely pick your head up... You guys are able to pick your head up and be like, you know what? There is some serious shit going on over here. Right? And be able to actually see the forest through the trees where it's like, wait a minute. Like, let me just put... Let me take off my info five fucking blinders for a hot second, and let me just, like, see what's right in front of me. Like, that's a really big deal that I don't think needs, like... That needs to go fucking... It can't go unnoticed. You know what saying? So, like, I think people... That's really good context for people to understand. It's like, you can be in a lane, but at the end of the day, like, pick your head up at the end of the day and look around and be like, where the fuck am I? And, like, what is going on over here? And let me see, like, why... Like, to Landy's point, like, where's the money moving? And if it's here, why is it coming here? And just start getting fucking curious. So good shit, Coma. Really good stuff. And great stuff. Landy, amazing, bro. Thank you. Empress, shoot. [0:46:49] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. And and and so that's the thing. And we're creatures of habit. And I just wanna kinda double down on something that Landy said about it. People gotta pivot. If you have been spending all of your time in CT because that is where your alpha has been from, it's not the center of the universe anymore. And I'm... I'll I'll say it flat out. The majority of the people that you're listening to on spaces probably are talking to you about meme coins or probably just nothing that is going to be lucrative in the long run that you need to be spending hours upon hours a day listening to. It's just... It's it's not gonna be effective because there are a million rabbit holes, and they're gonna be wrong guessing where the money's going, what tech's gonna survive, what protocols aren't rugs, aren't grips, how that's moving. So if you're not actually giving full attention and researching and paying attention to that shit because you have your attention divided into trailer park spaces, meme coin spaces, and all the other things that you're used to while you're here and not pivoting to any type of financial awareness, then you're gonna just get left behind. And and you... I mean, and if you're good pay... Playing in the penny slots forever, that's cool. That's fine. Whatever. But, like, it's it's genuinely time consuming. It's like a job. Anybody who quit and was like, oh, I mean, crypto. It's such a breeze. It's a fucking job. I'm working all the time. It's a pain in the ass. I I I cannot stress it enough. Landy has the other one side of the government thing. That shit doesn't come easy to me. I don't understand this stuff. If anybody down there thinks that I'm, like, aware of stocks or that a chart trades... You can change it so that you can read it at five hours or four hours. I thought it was twenty four hours. I still don't know what a break line is. I thought VC stood for voice chat, not venture capitalist. So, like, you can do it, but, like, you gotta pay attention and you gotta learn where to go, and you have to narrow a focus. Like I said, you will miss things. You're gonna miss a whole bunch of shit. You cannot catch it all. So find something, especially if you can find an ecosystem that is going to be really lucrative for you and figure out that all the way. And understand not all stablecoins are even built the same. And Landy can talk about that a little bit because I've been sending him a whole bunch of things that are coming through. There's stablecoins everywhere, and they're not all built the same. [0:49:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. Yeah. Enough of the Maxiism, enough of the chain Maxi nonsense. Like, just wake up, open your eyes, and actually see what's in front of you, and or just just keep coming to this show. [0:49:30] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Be a crack chain whore. No. You should come here. Yeah. We're telling you this stuff. We're not telling you to go do whatever. And and I put... By the way, I tagged Deep Llama at the top for people who aren't aware what that is. [0:49:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: If if you if you can't navigate around Deepai Lama, just go on HeyAnon website and just ask HeyAnon to, like, give you summaries about, you know, like, staples and stuff like that. That's what an AI agent does. They'll just, like, simplify it for you and just tell you, like, how much money is coming in and all of those things. It has DeFi Lama as part of their, like, API services. So check out Hey Anon. [0:50:10] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Did you tag it and put it up top,? [0:50:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sure. Look at this. A well oiled fucking machine. I know you guys thought I was leaving at six, but apparently that call got pushed to tomorrow, and I'm still here, bitches. Yeah. Go for it. [0:50:23] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Hey. Can Landy can Landy touch on the whole not all stablecoins are built the same thing? [0:50:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, they certainly are not. I'll go [0:50:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: to stablecoins first. Please start with that one. [0:50:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. [0:50:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Algos. No. Eric Trump. Hey. Listen. Eric Trump said Algos stablecoins are shit. So at least one person's gonna take the opposite position of that. But, look, not all stablecoins are built the same. And you have to understand what's backing a stablecoin and where is that backing for the stablecoin. Where is the custody of the assets that are being used to mint it, and where does the yield come from? In most stablecoins, the yield is... And and with the upcoming Genius Act, the yield is going to go to the issuer. What is that yield? That yield is the, the treasury assets that they're gonna be forced to hold one to one with each dollar that is, you know, minted out there. Now the big thing about that is is why the... So there's been a lot of debate. Why aren't we getting the, I'm holding the stablecoin. Why aren't I getting the yield? You can you can have access to the yield. How do you get access to that yield? You stake it. Just like if you were gonna go to a bank, you're not just by holding a dollar getting access to a yield bearing account. You have to deposit it to the bank or in a product that the bank offers in order to get access to that. Why do stablecoins do that? Why are they so adamant about the issuer getting the yield? Because they have to have a buffer. They have to overcollateralize. They can do that via the yield, they can pass that down through the protocol to encourage staking and locking up of TVL. And then, of course, then that that drips down to the platforms, which everybody eats from. But the fact of the matter is if that stablecoin backing is something other than, treasuries, then you have to look at, okay, if they're backing with another asset, where is it being held, and how is it constructed? So for Hermetica, which I wear the badge for, Jacob and the team have done a really excellent job where you mint it with Bitcoin. The Bitcoin is stored multi custodian, and a short position is taken off exchange so that if the exchange goes down or something happens, that they still have access to everything. They hold the keys to it. Nothing can can actually touch any of those funds, and you're not at risk of losing those funds. Now that means that... What does a short against a... An open spot position mean? Well, that means you can print a stable off the back of that. And then where does the yield come from? Instead of a platform, it's coming from the open market. Well, you have to understand where the yield comes from. For most stables that you stake, the yield is coming from the platform that you stake it on. It's not coming from the open market. It's usually... That's where when you look on something like DeFi Llama and you see reward yield. That's usually because the platform has done a raise, and they are rewarding you with the extra yield from that raise to attract more liquidity to the platform. When the yield's coming from the open market, it's a brilliant setup because it's coming from the actual trading of the assets on the open market across all the exchanges. That's something that Hermetica does. Jacob figured that out. He understands the the exchange game business, and he's created a beautiful model because it pays consistently high yields because long pays short 85 to 87% of the time even in the bear market. So that's a good way to build a stable. All of it's custody across major institutional custodians. Right? And it's not on the actual exchanges. Now when you start getting into DeFi platforms that are gonna start getting into printing stables. Many of them, they're they're just all within the platform. So when they take a short position against something, so you give them a token, they take a short position, mint you a stable to your wallet, what ends up happening is, k. Where is it custody, and what's the risk on the other side? Be. I have to do this. If they're gonna pay you yield directly to the... Your wallet, they're not gonna be eligible to be traded here in The United States. You will not be eligible to hold them here in The States because the issuer has to get that yield because they have to build that buffer on the back end. So [0:55:11] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Hold on real quick. Landy? [0:55:13] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Yes. [0:55:13] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Maybe I just should have said, is there a couple of things to look for for a good one? Because I fell asleep three sentences in. I don't know what you said after. [0:55:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: So to look for a good one, you have to look for what is it backed with. I prefer the only and first Bitcoin native backed stable coin, which is USDH. But I prefer it because it's backed by Bitcoin as the collateral and because of the way that it's held and the way that the actual mint occurs and the yield generation not coming from a platform. There is only a few other stables out there that people are even aware of. USDT is one. Right? We don't really know what their backing is because they haven't actually done a full audit. Right? But we know in general that it's backed by US treasuries, Bitcoin, and other assets. Well, they get the they get the yield. When USDT makes its way out to platforms, you have to go platform by platform to see if that yield... If you're willing to stake with those platforms for yield. So what do you look for? You look for TVL, and you look into the actual history of how they're custodying those stables. So how is the platform when you're staking? How are they custodying those stables that you're staking? What are they giving you back for that? And that's where you do have to learn a little bit about the platforms that you're using, the chains that you're using, that those platforms are on. And if they're offering you unrealistic yield expectations, then you need to do extra research and understand where is that yield is coming from. That's the biggest thing when it comes to stables. Where does the yield come from? If you don't understand where the yield comes from, then you need to get away, reassess until you find one where you understand where the yield is generated from. That's the biggest thing to understand because most all stables that you're gonna see going forward are gonna be backed by US treasuries. I would say you go with a Bitcoin backed stable. You're gonna see more Bitcoin backed stables, and you're likely gonna see companies that are gonna pop up that are gonna do backing with US treasuries and Bitcoin to overcollateralize as a selling point. But you're not gonna earn anything, and they're not really earning anything other than having Bitcoin on the books. So it's just a sales point and a sales pitch at that point, which means they can move the Bitcoin on and off the books. I prefer Bitcoin native backstables because they can't move it off the books. It is literally secured by Bitcoin on the back end. Where does that put things when the Genius Act passes? Who knows? But Bitcoin's the most pristine asset on the planet in the digital world, so that's where I'm at with it. [0:57:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, if you think for one second, I'm gonna let you come in here and out position me for a Hermetica fucking affiliate fucking code. I just got approved this morning. So don't you think for one second that I'm gonna let you put your affiliate code anywhere your Hermetica affiliate's anywhere near. [0:58:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: You knew it was going to. [0:58:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I know. I know, bro. It is not gonna happen. So if anybody's gonna start using the Hermetica platform, okay, no need to pay god over here. Alright? Me, use my affiliate code, not his guy. [0:58:24] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I don't know if I still need one. I I moved all my Lisa. The second rendition, much better, Landy. Any chance we're getting a thread on that at all? Any chance? [0:58:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna be sharing some threads. I'm also gonna be reaching out to the team because we need to get Jacob on some shows here that that No. [0:58:44] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Sorry. I don't care about your Hamedica agenda. I meant just on the stuff you just said. [0:58:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: A thread? Hell, no. I ain't putting that thread on. [0:58:50] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: But you you can't us you can't give us a couple blurbs on what to look like, what makes a good stablecoin. [0:58:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll pull I'll pull it. Empress, I'll pull it from here. This is what I do. So I'll pull I'll pull it from here in the transcript and everything he just laid out, and I'll pull it I'll put out the thread. Don't don't don't don't sweat it. Like, we... Yeah. We can't we can't ask too. Right? You gotta let your all stars fucking ball out. Know You what I'm saying? Like, you put them on the court, you also don't... You can't expect them to come off the court and essentially fucking be like, [0:59:13] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: hey. Oh, I didn't know you guys had limits. I... People just take from me, so I didn't have any idea you guys have limits. [0:59:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. You you wanna have a successful show? You gotta know people's limits at the end of the day. You know what I mean? Like, Coma probably still hasn't pinned anything up to the top at the end of the day. So, like, it is what the fuck it is. Like, leave him be. You know what I'm saying? Did. Exactly. Yeah. Like, we know. [0:59:33] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Let it go. It's so hard not to become the chick secretary when I got a bunch of men who can't fucking find their shoes. God. [0:59:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sandals. Thank you. Sandals. Yeah. Thank you. [0:59:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Sandals. [0:59:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bitch, I beat your ass to that fucking punchline. You did. Okay. [0:59:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Check your DMs. Guys, somebody give me the Robin Hood... Like, the actual Robin Hood news. [0:59:56] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Wait. Tell me what is the Robin Hood?... What I'm looking for again. Hey AI. What is it? [1:00:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey AI. Hey [1:00:01] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: AI. Thank you. [1:00:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. So... Also agent agent Hassel does that too, Empress as well. So, let's give them a plug too. Like, they're incredible on the Solana chain, and they're integrating a fuck ton of stuff. So, yeah, if you wanna plug that one also. Thank you. Yeah, Lindy. Sorry. Go for it. And then, tell me about the the Arbitrum ship. [1:00:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, just, the the Arbitrum, Coma pretty much killed it. Like, he he explained why they're using Arbitrum and kind of what this means. Arbitrum is is essentially going to be the back end for their stock tokens, and that's why they're they're ripping to the upside. And I expect this, you know, on the back of that, you know, we had the announcement from Kraken as well talking about tokenization of stocks, RWAs, and stuff like that. This is gonna kick off an arms race between these exchanges, and, Robinhood is the clear leader. They have so much freaking trading volume that it's kind of bonkers, like, how much trading volume they still do to this day. So what does that mean for Arbitrum? What does that mean for Robinhood? They're gonna continue to to run this wheel, and I missed what Bildo said. [1:01:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: He said, you fucking guy. I'm... Let the guy cook fucking dildo dildo with... Dildo verde with hat. He said, oh, he said, doo doo. Bro, I can't make this up. I [1:01:28] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: guess Koma is done with info fi. He he he must have collected because he definitely would not have sent me to go and get one of the newest Kaido campaign links to put up top. He... There's no fucking way that would've happened. [1:01:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. Koma's checking out. He's like, I'm an Arbitrum Maxi now. See you later. [1:01:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Yo. He jumped ship quick quick. He was like, man. Fuck all this. He was like, hanging on. Yeah. Those are those are good. [1:01:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: But Yo. I'm actually... They they announced their leaderboard. I'm on the top 10, so chill, guys. Chill. [1:01:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. We we we... This is [1:02:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: kinda funny because this this stuff with our original, man. It we we called it long time ago. We said multiple, companies are gonna log down blockchain. Exactly what we said. This is just the beginning, guys. The moment Robinhood gets in, we're gonna have JPMorgan. They wanna do their own blockchain. We're gonna have Apple. All these other companies, man. This this is a big... Like, When they say the world of money is coming, this is the beginning. Right? So, guys, like I said before, just enjoy the vibe, man. It it it... We've never had such a bullish market before ever. And... But, unfortunately, it's it's a bitcoin party right now. But eventually, these also would would would catch up. You know, that... Just enjoy the vibe, man. But it's it's a beautiful time time, though, to to see what's happening. But I I... This is also good for EAT. You know, you you guys have already talked about EAT, man. Know you guys are much to EAT the love way. I mean, obviously, it's built on EAT. So the biggest winners here are l twos and interior. That's it. [1:03:03] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hey, Landy. I have a I have a I have a hot question or... But you have to answer it in, like, under two minutes. How do you how do you feel about the security of Ethereum now that, you know, all these big companies are using it versus Bitcoin. [1:03:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, I've heard that, you know, that that the post quantum cryptography is just not quite there yet. You know, that's [1:03:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro. [1:03:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bro. Bro. I'm on the Atkins side. [1:03:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: Answer the question, bro. I'm glad you asked the question. [1:03:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself. You know? Anyway, you know, and and... Well, on that note, I mean, when you're tokenizing real world assets, I think that that is a vector for exposure to risk for web two. Right? You know, it kinda makes sense, you know, when you a to b to c and know what the fuck you're talking about. But, you know, I... I'll take those shots somewhere else. But in reality, there's... You know, it is... It has survived. It is secure, but it's also gonna be wholly owned by all of these larger players that are going to accumulate ETH. You know why? Because it's a proof of stake network. So when you have a proof of stake network, you don't really... You have ebbs and flows of the network level decentralization because a player can buy their way in and centralize those networks. So that is always a risk. What are they gonna do? They they understand these risks. What are they gonna do to mitigate that portion of it? Other than that, I mean, Ethereum is used because it's secure. That's why these bigger players wanna build on it. The contract layer is secure. That's why it facilitates all the building of these l twos. There's nothing really abhorrently wrong with it other than some of the decentralization... Network decentralization risks because of the way that you can aggregate the coin to, well, you know, buy your way into control of the network itself at a network layer level. So other than that, that's the biggest risk that I see in the foreseeable future. There's nothing wrong with it at the end of the day, though. This is this is no different than what we see in traditional market systems and the way in which we have, both centralized and decentralized systems within that that centralized infrastructure. So it's a model that is attractive to these larger institutional players anyway. It's easy for them to understand, and it presents opportunity for them as well to build. Now a network layer on top is only as good as the the people creating the network and the contracts for that network. [1:05:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: You said two [1:05:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: minutes ago. Down this rabbit hole, but in theory, could a bunch of human miners just collaborate together and then do the same thing in some ways? Like, they're all very rich people and [1:06:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: For Bitcoin, you mean? Or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mean, sure. I mean, there's there's, you know, I mean, there's people... To... Not to get too far into it, there's there's an ongoing debate and argument over templating. Right? But the fact of the matter is it's very tough to hold on to that centralized infrastructure because there's too much competition, and it becomes very cost prohibitive over a longer period of time. And in the future, it's going to be completely cost prohibitive and will need to be subsidized by, the US government, other players in the game in order to keep the network going because they have vested interest because it's in treasuries and probably backing US treasuries and other nation's treasuries as well for their fiat garbage. [1:06:48] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yep. Yeah. That makes sense. Sorry. Yeah. Long long winded... Or I didn't wanna go down this rabbit hole, I just thought it was kinda just curious. [1:06:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, look. There's there's far... It's far easier to take over other networks where they can make many more x's doing so. [1:07:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Fair point. [1:07:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do do. Do do. [1:07:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is anybody gonna tell me about the Robin Hood fucking Arbiter fucking deal? What is the story? Are they launching an l two? Like like, what's what's going on? [1:07:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. Arbitrum is processing their stock tokens. That's that's who's doing the cross chain compatibility stuff for their stock tokens. [1:07:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: So this is what's here... So this is so this is what scares me. Right? Like, what scares me is... Oh god. I hope this doesn't fucking cost me a sponsorship. But, when... Like, that video that I commented on Vlad, right, when I... He's on CNBC, does the vernacular scare anybody else? Like, when I hear him say crypto technology instead of the blockchain, like, that... Like, the... Am I crazy cool? Like... Or, like, when I hear that from somebody that is that high up, like, that worries me a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. No. No. [1:08:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I think I think it's just because I I... I'm sure he knows what... About about, you know, blockchain crypto and all that stuff. I I I think it's just probably... It it just probably feels comfortable speaking that way in a way. I mean, I don't think he he wants to do the same things. He doesn't... He's not really comfortable with. But I I... It doesn't it really matter, man. It's not a big issue. Even if he calls the blockchain or tech, whatever it is, as long as these web two people are coming in there. And I guess, it's not like I'm a big fan of them anyway. I'm just saying because what happens is we live in a in a in a copy paste world, man. You know, people people on Wall Street will see what's base... A I'm sorry. What what Coinbase has been doing. And, also, they they... Now they've seen what Hood is is doing. Right? So it's... It... I just see a lot more companies coming in there, so it doesn't really matter what they call this stuff. It's, you know, it doesn't really matter. Us, crypto people, we like to be more traditional, but Web three people don't care, man. As long as they're making their money, that's all that matters, bro. [1:09:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. [1:09:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: I am curious, Dave. What... What's what's the concern with the vernacular, I guess? Do you think it's, like, actually not web three or, like... [1:09:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. Maybe... Yeah. Maybe it's just in my maybe it's just in my head in a way. Know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. Like... But when I hear... When I when I don't hear it, like, addressed prop... I've never heard that term. You know what I'm saying? Like... Yeah. Anyways, maybe we drop it. Yeah. [1:09:29] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. Pick me. Can you pick me? [1:09:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. I'll pick you. Empress, go for it, please. [1:09:34] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Also, cool. Do you live in America? [1:09:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Of course, he lives in America. Kinda question is that. [1:09:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: He owns, like, 50 houses. [1:09:41] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I don't know. I was just checking. [1:09:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I mean I mean... [1:09:46] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Feel like he's always on a different time zone than me. Like... [1:09:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: He is. And his house is so big. Yeah. Cool. You're in and out of the Wi Fi right now. We could we could... Sorry. So you...... So big. [1:09:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: You know, my my old changed, man. So you guys have... [1:10:01] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Every time I'm awake, his face every time I'm awake, his face is on a different thing. So that's why I was asking. [1:10:09] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Because I feel like they get to be laissez faire about the legalese. Because I was like, that sounds like some legalese bullshit to me, just so you know, Dave. I think... I... But, I mean, I also think it's to be expected. Right? Because they... They're gonna have to be careful. They're... We have a set parameters of of what our vernacular is and how this is rolled out and what the tech is. I I think it's to be expected. It could be complete happenstance, but it could also be intentional. Right? Like, if the... If their chain plans on having more of less of a decentralized feel to it. Right? [1:10:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I don't [1:10:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: know. It's marketing. I just... It's marketing. [1:10:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it marketing? [1:10:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. 100%, it's marketing.... [1:10:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, to the layman, like, to the layman because, like, I know... Like, I I get what you said. Right? Where it's like, look. Like, I think what Robinhood did really well is they appeal to the layman. Right? Like, I mean, at the end of the day, I know we can laugh about it all day, but you were trading Doge, like, in one place, like, to start off with. Right? And I feel like they've taken that, and they've seen that, and they've modeled the blueprint and been like, this is the... How we... This is how we're gonna kind of approach, like, this whole shit. And when I prepared a lot of the... [1:11:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this then. This little pup is going to be upgrading with AI and and crypto technology. It's much easier to say than, hey. This pup is going to be augmenting with ChatGPT and integrating with this specific agent to assist in this area. Also, this little pup is going to be on chain with Arbitrum. Right? [1:11:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I get I I get that, but it wasn't even that deep. Right? Like, it was, like, it was a very general conversation where it was, like, it's the underlying to... And because... Like, what did he do? He literally just mirrored exactly what daddy Larry's been saying this entire time. Right? Like, tokenize the world. Right? Tokenization. Tokenization. Yeah. [1:11:57] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Do you... Lendi, do do you know why I said what I said, Lendi? Did you read the comment? [1:12:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. My point though is that [1:12:05] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: The point... What's the comment say, Landy? [1:12:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold on. Hold on. You have to leave the door open. And when you use language like that, especially when you are talking to the general public, you're leaving the door open, one, because if you just say blockchain technology and pick one of the blockchains or use one as an example, then normies and everyone goes crazy. So you have to be very, very key keyed in on what language you use when you're out there on any kind of major major viewership [1:12:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Network. Right? Like... Or channel. [1:12:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: I get I get you. [1:12:45] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I know that, but I took it a step further for a reason because the comment literally says, plans for the Robinhood blockchain are in development and subject to change. Its availability is dependent and applicable app... Regulations and future launch timing. It... It's like... I mean, I think that it's conceivable there's gonna be some shifts in vernacular based on governance over this previously decentralized idea of the blockchain technology. [1:13:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Absolutely not. They're going to... They're biding time to not pick a winner so they can create their own blockchain. And if they... And they wanna give themselves... [1:13:23] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Why does it say dependent on applicable regulation? Like, that literally says [1:13:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: regulation. [1:13:29] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. But that [1:13:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: regulated differently than than the SEC is going to regulate purely a blockchain. So they have to take into consideration two things because of their position in the market, what their licenses are, and then creating a blockchain and remaining adherent to that. Because just like they did with Apex for their clearing house, they got them... Well, they got their own house in order for Robinhood clearing. And that was all for crypto. Right? Because they they had to take into consideration what their position is for the licenses that they have and the rules and regulations that they have to adhere to, which, you know, arguable. [1:14:07] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I feel like we're saying the same thing. [1:14:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: But... No. So...... What my point is, though. Because they have to... Then they they... While they built out their own clearinghouse for crypto, they had to shift with that. Right? So now they're using Arbitrum for this stuff. Right? But they might change to another block chain, or they might integrate more, not just Arbitrum, but not not getting rid of them, but integrate more, and then also shift over to their own. Because they wanna own the entire infrastructure. Right? You don't wanna necessarily [1:14:36] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: That's what I'm saying. [1:14:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Which you use others. Think we're [1:14:38] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: saying the same thing, Glenda. [1:14:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. But also, Empress, I think maybe one piece too is, like, when you're a fin... Like, you're also FINRA regulated. Right? This is the TradFi side of things. Like, being FINRA regulated is a fucking nightmare. [1:14:50] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Why are you guys saying but and no when you're agreeing with me? [1:14:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. So I'm saying to an extent, yes, you're saying the same thing. I... But I think what I'm saying is the piece I believe that maybe I can help fill in the gap of, hey. I think we're saying the same thing. This is the same thing, but also this. In addition to being a FINRA regulated company, right, or an institution brings a whole slew of other, like, regulations, rule that they still have to abide by. So at the end of the day, it's not gonna be... I get... I I real... I understand, Landy, exactly what you're saying now where it's like you have to kind of appease to everybody, but in a way, it's like we also... They can't forget that, like, we also have these regulators that are still coming, knocking on our door, gonna be auditing us. We still have to file... We still have to do all these filings and everything else. Right? So it's kind of this juggling act in a way, but, yeah, I kinda get it. [1:15:42] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I think I need to cut marijuana smoking. [1:15:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, no. Empress, what I... I understand what you're saying. Like, they create their own blockchain that's highly centralized, and then it it adheres to the rails that they wanna put up on it. Of course. Because they're probably gonna be the ones that own the... All of the validators and all of the nodes, and they're gonna fund all of the different decentralized, quote, unquote, platforms that it taxes that's that it's just going to further place their foothold into the web three ecosystem. But my point behind it is, yes, we're saying the same thing. But when you're looking at a company like this, as somebody like myself or Dave, you... We're... They have... What they have to take into consideration with the language they use is very different than than the way that we would normally hear some of these guys talk about [1:16:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Aw. [1:16:31] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Thanks for mansplaining that one to me, Landy. [1:16:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm not mansplaining. You're a dreadfiesplaining. Who's the... [1:16:39] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: That was not Bradfiesplaining. We... Lisa, you know damn well I got my legalese unlocked. That was the the... You just mansplained the fuck out of my own words [1:16:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: back to me. Finra. Finra. Finra. [1:17:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Supreme Court, like, their case against the IRS to divulge fucking user data. Okay? Like, they literally lost. So now Coinbase has to fucking divulge... Like, this is the Supreme Court. There is no... There is nothing more. Right? So that little notification, right, where you're like, taxes. And I [1:17:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: know I joke about this [1:17:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: shit all the time. Crypto taxes. Yeah. It's a thing, and they're gonna get to see all of your user data. All of it. Right? I don't even... And this is where you gotta start digging into the t's and c's of what Coinbase is actually tracking on you. In addition to, obviously, all of the fucking trades that you make and what you're staking and yada yada, there's probably a shit ton more because I bet... Like, make no mistake, Coinbase is literally a tradified brokerage just disguised... Not even disguised, just operating in the crypto sphere. It's that simple. Nothing is different. It's just a different business line with crypto that is now taking off and that is in its nascent... It's literally a nascent industry that they get to do a lot of fucking shit. And this loss, there's a reason why they obviously wanted to fight it because now people are gonna be like, wait a minute. Coinbase tracks what? How... What are they seeing on me? How much data do they have? And this is why we're telling you guys that we're screaming from the fucking rooftops all day, own your intelligence. Okay? So... But we'll get to that combo a little bit later. Yeah. Empress, go for it. That that was a monster fucking story that I saw this morning that I actually just remembered. Yeah. Go for it. [1:18:29] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Andy, can I? Can I? [1:18:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. [1:18:32] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Fuck Coinbase. Fuck your stupid Coinbase monopoly. You guys are so fucking oblivious and stupid. Can I just tell you? Look at the tweet up top, you fucking oblivious goddamn pew. Do you know how many government Department of Defense contracts your monopoly is in and all of your money's in? And by the way, all of you who are like, I've never had a Coinbase account. I have a KYC. Peep the freaking tweet at the top. Those bitches are on every chain. You are owned by them. If you have not been paying attention, you're... Yep. They have your data. Anybody in here, chances are they have your data. Even me. Even me. The only thing is is I knew and started moving appropriately. You can peep the quote tweet. That's a quote tweet. Look at when I started tweeting this when I went and looked and did my deep dive on Monad. You think you know everything? Go to Coinbase Ventures. Look into what Coinbase is doing. Within three years, you're going to start seeing massive lawsuits trying to break up that monopoly. It'll take forever, but either way, the... Everybody's gonna get slapped. You're fucked. You're welcome. [1:19:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: I knew Brad was a fucking double agent. Son of a bitch. I knew it. How did [1:19:36] Kkoma @itskkoma: moaned come into this conversation? Like, so random. [1:19:40] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Because my husband is the newest weapon. What do you tell? It's not random. Did you not just hear my entire rant? Monad's already integrated into far... I literally said, go go farm. Here's the thing. You can't beat them. You can only join them. You have... That's why you have action al... Alpha. I said, go over to Forecaster. Start farming all... Like, I've already got, like, over a thousand Monad tokens... Test tokens. [1:20:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: And and [1:20:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: I feel like Mona has existed before even Kaido, and it still hasn't, like, gone to me in that yet. [1:20:09] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It's not. It's... They're running their test tokens. It's already adjacent. All the rebranding, that's the new Coinbase super system. It's it's it's gonna help... They... I don't understand. They're, like, eating their own base chain. I don't get it, but Monad is is what they're doing. [1:20:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's just a different the OP... It's a different vertical. That's all. [1:20:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: Is it built on... Is Monad on [1:20:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: the OP stack as well? [1:20:33] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It's an EVM. [1:20:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Right. But is it built on the OP? Is it, like, optimist... Is it, like, optimistic? [1:20:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No. That's... It's totally different, Mace. It's Modular. It's supposed to be... Yeah. No. No. No. It's it's supposed to be a a... The Solana killer, so something similar to that. But it has nothing to do with OP or any EVM or whatever. So [1:20:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Very interesting. You know what I find also very interesting is how the price of optimism is still continuing to outperform the, the price of of Arbitrum. Call it tokenomics or whatever the fuck you want, but, like, the amount of fucking state... Like, the amount of TBL that Arbitrum has, I don't under... It does... It boggles my mind. [1:21:11] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Because they've scaled. Actually know how to run business. [1:21:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, I guess TVL isn't, like, the only moniker. So maybe this is good to kinda reflect back on what we said initially. Yeah. The money's one thing. Follow the money. But the other thing is who the fuck is using your tech as well? I think that's [1:21:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: a really important Optanez is interesting. Like, I I don't know too much about it, but I know they formed a lot of partnerships with their... Oh my god. What is it called? The... Is it the Eigenlayer or something like that with... I know they are... They collaborate with Eigenlayer is huge, bro. [1:21:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, why. Yeah. The restaking component is a big, big deal, and I don't think we talk about that enough in terms of, like, restaking and being able to use, like, those restaking tokens. Like, I know Lindy talked a lot about, like, rehypothecation, and people are like, what the fuck is rehypothecation? And it's like, was the same fucking way until I started doing a little bit of homework on this whole shit. But I think restaking tokens are like... This is... I... It's big business. I I get Layer literally just recently raised. I think it was, like, another $75,000,000. It's fucking ginormous, guys. Like, it... Yeah. It is huge. Huge. I gotta find that story. But... Yeah. And, Prisko. [1:22:20] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. No. I wasn't kidding. Optimism is they are scaled like a business. They... Their governance, the way that they move, their collaboration, their partnerships, they have been running like a corporation, and and I think that that's what you can attribute a lot of their success to. Like, the... If you pay attention and you're over there, you're making money. [1:22:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I I participated in their super stacks thing, which was, like, their campaign for you to get, like, experience points. In the beginning, was just farming it, but then the more... This is my problem. Like, I I wanna be a farmer, and then I get, like, really intrigued by where am I put... Where am I putting my money into because I don't wanna lose it. And then I I realized, like, they're they're just basically grabbing all the chains possible and essentially just being that, like, centralized... I don't wanna say centralized, but, like, the key component to being able to move from, like, one chain to the other very quickly and efficiently. So, yeah, optimism is super interesting. It's just not very heavily talked about on crypto Twitter for some reason. [1:23:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Como, was it was it you that mentioned stylist? Because now, like, I'm really looking at this. I think we do that at the end of the floor in terms like, program life. So Optimism, relies heavily on Ethereum's existing infrastructure, and they're built on what's called the optimistic virtual machine, but they're transitioning to what's called a super chain architecture that supports a network of interoperable interoperable OP chains. Right? [1:23:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: So anybody that's using what I'm talking about. [1:23:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That... Anybody that's using, like, you know, the OP stack is now gonna be, like, probably very easily interoperable. So... And I'll I'll get the breakdown for you guys in a second on, like, who's actually using the OP stack. But Arbitrum, it says built its own custom VMs called the Arbitrum Virtual Machine and something called Stylus, which supports EVM plus Wasm. Yep. And, essentially, they recently launched something called Arbitrum Orbit and Arbitrum Bold, a a permissionless fraud proof system to make it more decentralized and modular. So two very different, like, business... Like, approaches to really kinda, like, scaling this stuff out. Optimism looks like it's leading now, and I'm just going literally just if you're looking at token price. But I like what optimism does as well is... What optimism does in terms of community support, I think, is second to none. Like, this Yapio shit was the first time I saw Arbitrum really reach out to, like, from a community effort perspective. For those that don't know, opt... I've gotten probably three or four optimism airdrops, and I've very rarely interacted with the optimism chain. And I'll tell you why. Like, they do retroactive grants. Right? Meaning, like, did you contribute in some way, shape, or form? Like, did you maybe build something back then? Like, they have, like, their voting mechanism really down pat to where they're rewarding community members. And, like, when you think open source, people are building some really, really cool shit, and I genuinely believe that's the reason why, like, they have a really big leg up on, on maybe the competition. Again, this is just my take. I don't I don't know if that's a factual statement, but just from my perspective, that's really where I... Like, I mean, in my experience, but that's really where I see it, man. Like, they're genuinely... Like, they are entrenched in the communities, and they're supporting all these initiatives. So, like, you know how, like, the Ethereum Foundation does, like, grants? They have, like, public good and and a bunch of others, and they give out a lot of money. Optimism does the same shit. They allocated a ton a ton of money to, like, public goods projects. So, like, people are really, really... Like, devs are genuinely, like, enticed and and really, like like, they're incentivized to go build using the OP stack. So there's something to be said about that. I don't know. That's just my take on it. Kung, but what do you think? [1:25:50] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I I agree. And, like, again, I was, again, I was trying to farm, get some points, get some experience points. They didn't say what these experience points will be, but, you know, as a speculator, I like to just go ham on some random stuff. But, basically, just what what they did was essentially you get points based off how much, like, liquidity you put into, you know, their super stacks. You know? And it's funny because they were giving these multipliers, but essentially these multipliers kept moving from chain to chain whenever it was available. So I found myself going from, like, OP stack to Unichain to, like, ink and then... Then... I don't even know how to pronounce this. Sonium? Sonium? [1:26:30] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It's Sonium. It's from Sony Music. [1:26:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Sony. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So I I found that out later, right, after I moved it. But, yeah, like, they basically are able to, like, connect all these chains together, like you said, Dave, and be that kind of, like, that that super stack of stacks. Right? So, yeah, very interesting. Learning a lot from it. But... Yeah. And then Arbitrum is doing their own thing. So, yeah, again, I I love Arbitrum because I've been, like, studying it a lot, but I've also been studying optimism. You just gotta know everything and what they're doing differently and kinda... What what did Embrace say? Like, be be be be flexible and learn about different chains. [1:27:07] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Cross chain whore? [1:27:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Basically. Yeah. So here we go. I'll give you all the breakdown from from what GPT is telling me. So major projects using the OP stack. Base, obviously, the biggest one. Right? Zora. Lindy, that's so funny. Is fucking... That is too good. Zora, Mode Network, LyraChain, AVO, a e v o, Redstone, Metal. I don't even know what these chains are, but I guess those are some of the top ones. And then the ones using the Arbitrum stack, are x a... Like, x AI. It's not a bad one. AVO MultiChain, Rarechain by Caldera, and then Treasure, decentralized gaming ecosystem. I'm not even familiar with with none of these, but, obviously, like, Arbitrum One and Arbitrum Nova, are are are the biggest ones as well. So... But as a OP, like, you have base. You know what I mean? Like, base, Zorra, like, they're now looking. So now think about what we what we said earlier, like, coin, like, base, Zora, Mode, and a bunch of these others now are gonna be forming this, like, super chain is essentially what OP wants to do. Right? Like, now make all of this stuff interoperable, super easy, like, base to Zora. Please don't go minting fucking nonsense on the on the Twitter timeline, guys. This Zora shit is out of control. Listen. Ever... Everyone can go have some fun, but this shit... That shit was crazy talk. I don't know who's in charge of Zora, but there's a reason why. Oh my... [1:28:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's content, Dave. Tokenizer, content. What are you doing? [1:28:36] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: What do you mean? It's a creator coin. I got my creator coin. Somebody bought a whole bunch of me. They're insane. I don't get it. Good for them. [1:28:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Here we go. Friendship friendship whatever. What is it called? [1:28:49] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I don't know who the creeper is. I... Whatever makes them feel good about themselves, I suppose. [1:28:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's... We've moved on from friend tech. Now we're on content points. Right. [1:28:58] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I feel kinda... I... Not gonna lie. I feel kinda like a hooker. [1:29:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: Damn it. You found me out. [1:29:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo, money. No, Oshmoney. [1:29:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's good, fam? How y'all doing? Good to see you. Shout out to the space. Shout out to you, Dave. Shout out to my man, Landy, over there, and shout out to cool crypto. Let's go. Let's go, Shwani. Came up [1:29:19] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Retweet the [1:29:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: space. Found me. The duck came up and said, yo. You found me out, Empress. That's you. There he is right there. Quack quack admirer. [1:29:30] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I followed him. That's all you get. I don't know what you thought buying all those coins. [1:29:38] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hey. I'll take it. It's worth it. Let's go. [1:29:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. We're cooking out here. I know it's 07:00. Cool's got a stream coming up. He's... He's not already on the stream right now. But [1:29:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm I'm probably gonna take take a deal today, man. I I have... I gotta do all change stuff, so real life stuff. So no show today. So I'm I'm with you guys. As long as you wanna keep it up, Four or five hours, bro, I'm all [1:29:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: here, bro. People are cool. There's a joke in there. Don't bury me like that, bro. [1:30:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's commitment. [1:30:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sim it down, lady. That that... We... Pause. All day... The... You don't... That's not... Those aren't the jokes that you call out, okay, for another for another [1:30:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: male co worker. Good one. Come on. Come on. Oh my goodness. [1:30:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: As long as you gotta keep [1:30:18] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: it up. It was a good one, Landy. Don't let him rain on your parade. [1:30:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. He's... Dave Dave, he went to one too many Late Night with Landy shows, and now he's now he's like, I don't know. He's got a little too ratchet. [1:30:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's not... That has nothing to do with ratchet. It has... There's there's guidelines. There's unwritten rules out here. Okay? [1:30:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to advertise what goes on in the degeneracy at night to cool to see if he'll show up, but he's got kids. Don't don't do it. Don't do it for your own safety. [1:30:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Yo. What we should do is I'm gonna throw a fucking mic to Adam because I love when Adam fucking goes off, and he's like, let me tell you about this fucking bullshit token. Adam, I shot you a mic, bro. Like, I feel like we're at that hour where we could use some fucking butt on something. Adam, what's good? Yep. I got another one. Uh-oh. What do you got, Sunnyv? BitTorrent today launched their two point o main net. Oh, do tell? What does that mean? [1:31:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: This post says, say goodbye to complex cross chain swaps, b t t... B t t c main net establishes secure efficient relay network with three layer architecture and proof of stake consensus enabling seamless interoperability across multiple blockchain networks. Okay. See, now this is where shit's gonna get complex, and this is where I'm gonna set Adam off. B t t c. Listen. We already have enough of the c b b t c's, a b [1:31:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: b t c's, a l b t c's. [1:31:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. But throw an extra t in there, and we're all fucked. I don't know if you're talking about Bitcoin or Bitcoin at the end of the day. An extra t is easily missed. Adam, you feel me or what, bro? [1:32:05] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Bro, come on, man. You're you're right as rain, dude. Who the... BTTC? The one I didn't like was LBTC. I was like, dude, are we talking about gay and lesbian rights here, or what the fuck are we even talking about? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, what are you... I I don't even know all these... I don't know. Bittorrent, multichain. Yes. Great. Awesome. Let's see it. Let's see it in action, man. I'm psyched. [1:32:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Joe, when you say Shout out to [1:32:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jacob and the Lombard team. Yeah. [1:32:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. When you say LBTC though, Dave, it fucked me up. Because when you're talking to Lombard team, they're like, LBTC, there's liquid BTC, which is also LBTC. We're just fucking adding... There's... We're gonna run out of ticker space. Runes are actually the the future. We need long ass fucking names just so we know what the hell these things are. [1:32:52] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Right. You're right, man. You're totally right, dude. [1:32:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: We need 12 fucking... We need 12 character lens fucking tick. Was that the craziest shit ever when runes came out? I'm like, is fucking Casey serious with this right now? [1:33:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: I lost so much money on runes. Please, let's move. [1:33:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: How? How? Did you not get drops of rune stones and shit, bro? [1:33:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, empress is gonna love this one. Empress, you know what I did? I actually minted rune milieu runes, and people actually bought that shit. They thought it was fucking real, and I made, like, fucking two g's. So I'm like, you know what? Fuck it. [1:33:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: Wait. Listen. Are you admitting that you rugged? What is this? [1:33:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I rugged the Rumilio fucking community for being anti Semitic fucking pieces of shit. That's why after getting kicked out of the fucking group chat, fuck them. [1:33:37] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I I I I... Oh, no. Bring Millie out. Start it out there. [1:33:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. Where was the elephant? I [1:33:49] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: also burned that motherfucker. [1:33:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Where's my... For the record, I and I alone, not fucking melted minds, not melted schmelted fucking cheese grilled cheese, whatever the fuck his name is. Wow. Okay? Not him, lying sack of shit. I, on chain, was the first one to burn my runilio. Me. Call me stupid, but you [1:34:15] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: know what?... Too. Not first, though. [1:34:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Didn't go first. [1:34:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was first mover in that. [1:34:21] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: What's considered burning? Is that [1:34:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: is that sending you to such a harsher? [1:34:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: A dirty wash. Yeah. [1:34:26] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: You were the first moron because we... No? That that didn't benefit us on any level. I I was stupid too, but you're declaring yourself pioneer of the idiots. [1:34:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Know what I did with [1:34:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: is true. [1:34:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: This might be true. I sold them. [1:34:41] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Fucking burn them. We're pioneers of the idiots.... [1:34:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Burning shit. [1:34:44] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Fuck you, Lamby. Fuck you, Landy. [1:34:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll say this. Okay? I got lucky because, you know, when they put out that freaking little Excel sheet, they're like, fill this out in the next five minutes. I actually came across that tweet and it said posted one minute ago. I filled it out. I was able to mint four of those bitches. Okay? So before you say I'm leading the pack of the idiots, the three that I sold before at $5, $6, and $4.5, I think I did fucking okay. And I said, you know... [1:35:08] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Wait. What what are you talking... What [1:35:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: is this? [1:35:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: These orbitals or runes? [1:35:12] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: These are runes? [1:35:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Ordinals. These were orbitals, bro. [1:35:15] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Oh, okay. Was gonna say nobody made $4 on runes, bro. [1:35:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Nobody. No. But on paper, it says that I'm up 5... Like 50,000. No. Nobody's making that money on runes. [1:35:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Wait. Wait. No. No. No. Made No. Tons of money on dog and then continuing to make tons of money on dog because dog... [1:35:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that's fair. [1:35:37] Trav @trav_4211: That's the one... [1:35:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's the actual rune. The rest of them turned into absolute dog shit. That's what... [1:35:44] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I just wanna say, ew. You're right. Only because I'm backing your bag, but I also want Dave to get his flowers because I didn't know Dave ever traded well at any point. So good job on the rune, Milio. [1:35:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was just throwing fucking flames out of here right now. [1:36:03] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. I planned you tried to step on your win, and I wanted to make sure you got it. [1:36:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You... No. No. Dave... Dave's made some good moves over there, but you have to take the aggregates of what else he bought over there. [1:36:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: We have to look at this as a whole. [1:36:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Why do [1:36:21] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: we all agree that runes suck, but you... But that... But then we have to add, but not dog. Can somebody explain this to me? [1:36:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It was free. Throwing in the fucking runestone. You know what I mean? God bless the runestone holders. Like, I lit... And, yo, God bless Liquidium. I literally took a loan out. Like, when I saw that hammer coming down, I was like, hey. Who wants to freaking... Let me take a loan out for this. Somebody's like, I'll give you $5 for it. I was like, here you go. Never paid that bitch back in my fucking life. Listen. At the end of the day... But that dog... Listen. You know what that dog airdrop was? Like, that dog airdrop at at, like, at the drop was $3,000 for people. That was $3 for owning a fucking runestone that you could have bought for peanuts, bro, like, at the time. So shout out to fucking Leonid. When is that getting listed, by the way, on Kraken? [1:37:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's company update with is listed, brother, and that's why [1:37:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shut up. [1:37:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Spot is up. That's why it's been holding the 400 mil floor. Look, DOG is DOG is an amazing token, and the community is amazing. Look, Leonidas and the team did it the right way. And they built it the right way, and I'm not just saying that because I had tons of wallets with rune stones in them that got to drop. I actually went and bought the rune stones as well. Now granted, I sold those rune stones that I bought before the drop because I already had free ones. I was gonna get the dog token anyway. But even just the the community and the way that he courted the community and supports the community and the people over there that are building around dog and on chain for layer one and branching out to other chain. Look. They just did it the right way. And... [1:37:58] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: You said Corded. [1:38:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, you know, he he knew... What do [1:38:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: you mean?... Yelled into... Yelled at into submission submission on the timeline. [1:38:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what? [1:38:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's more like it. But, hey. Shut out Leo. Whatever gets a dunk. [1:38:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I fucking liked every single one. I was working with a founder who eventually rugged everyone, including myself, who hated him, and he hated the fact that I would always repost the late night as each screaming post. I love it. I love it. It was my, like, my own little way of trolling him. [1:38:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: But For the record, by the way, bit by bit literally just commented on one of my fucking Welsh posts. I wrote reunion. David Davidson. And... Oh my god, Landy. This reunion would be the reunion of reunions, bro. Gonna find out exactly. [1:38:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what? It can come together. In union... Come together. [1:38:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. All of [1:38:48] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: that in CTE sounds way worse. [1:38:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's a song. It's not a gay sex video. Well, it's probably a gay sex video But as it is it is... No. Listen. If there is one thing that can join together the disparate little infighting that happened over there, it's this particular narrative. [1:39:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. That's a fact. That is a fact. Hey. Listen. Nothing brings people together like a manhunt for another fucking sketch artist. You know what I mean? It's like, hey. Come on. We found somebody else. It's not you anymore. Don't worry about it. We'll put you on ice. Cut. We're gonna go find this other... We think this guy fleeced the community for 4,000,000. That's wild shit.... [1:39:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: More like 5, and there's probably way more than that as well because it was all now on the exchange over there. [1:39:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, why doesn't he just buy back the fucking Welsh, bro? You made 5,000,000. It'll cost you $50 to literally buy back the same position now. You literally sold it to highs. Like, just fucking appease the community. Give them their 1,000,000,000 back. Goddamn. Ridiculous. But, anyways... Yeah. Yeah. Don't you dare think about putting your Hermetica fucking affiliate up there either to stop it [1:39:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: right now. Okay? [1:39:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't wanna... [1:39:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: I didn't do it. I didn't [1:39:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: do Good. Shoot. Yep. [1:39:57] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, I remember why I didn't go into Bitcoin spaces now. [1:40:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Why is that? Because we were always fighting each [1:40:04] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: other. This is. [1:40:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: We were always fighting each other. Mhmm. [1:40:08] Kkoma @itskkoma: Could I suggest something, Dave? And I don't know if you have But of course. Why don't we just slash the guy on Ethos? Like, everyone go on Ethos and just slash the shit out of him because, obviously, these guys are just getting away and [1:40:21] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: murdering great if everybody could get on Ethos. I bet you... Only you and I can for one. [1:40:29] Kkoma @itskkoma: Wait. What? What's ETHOS? You don't know what ETHOS is? Uh-huh. [1:40:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I ETHOS. There you go. It's... That's Adam... It's Adam's favorite one. I know that for sure. That's definitely... Adam's like, love fucking fucking eat. [1:40:40] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I do have a couple of invites open, but you gotta be a you gotta be a special person. Hit me up in DMs, man. But I got... I I own... I give them out very sparsely. Very sparsely. [1:40:50] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Hard to get, Adam. [1:40:52] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Yeah. They are. [1:40:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. You know hard to give, though. Right? Because, basically, if you're not a good Ethos user, Adam gets fucked. Yo. It's not like Wallchain where you could just send out referrals as much as you're like. [1:41:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't cut my legs out. Was just about to be like, who sent you the wall chain invite, Adam? It was me. And Adam was literally sending invites into the void back in the day. And I'm like, Adam, no. You can't just send to anybody, bro. Like, you gotta fuck it. Like, oh my god. Adam, better you you better send me some Ethos invite as well. [1:41:24] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Sorry. You're the Ethos team or something? [1:41:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why can't I mute and un... [1:41:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. Listen. [1:41:32] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I think you're having connections issues, Dave. I... I'm getting the notification you're [1:41:35] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: having connections.... Me too. It's muting and unboxing. [1:41:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shit. Alright. Give me a second. Give me a second. Relax. Relax. It's my mom's birthday. You think I could get two minutes real quick? [1:41:45] Kkoma @itskkoma: I can't [1:41:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: even I a comedy step for you. What, place and time. Hope... Keep that on pause, but stay right there, money. I need my etho. I need my thing from... I need my ethos fucking invite from [1:41:58] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Adam first before we move forward. [1:41:59] Kkoma @itskkoma: Why can't I unmute? [1:42:01] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It's because of Dave. [1:42:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see? No. Now I I can't fucking mute now. [1:42:06] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: No. You're you're... Someone said post issues, and now all of us went wonky. [1:42:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, there we are. [1:42:14] Kkoma @itskkoma: I literally can't mute. [1:42:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hello? Am I here? Adam. You're here. [1:42:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes, Puppet. You're here. [1:42:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Adam. Adam. Adam. Adam. Adam. [1:42:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up? [1:42:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Listen. You're a man of the people. That's why... That's all you gotta say in your response to Dave when sending out invites into the void, it's your man of the people. That's it. [1:42:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Send me that fucking Ethos invite now. [1:42:38] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Wait. What did you tell? Dude, did I invite you to Ethos or what? I can't remember. Did you invite me? I... Honestly, I can't remember. [1:42:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You probably Wallchain. [1:42:46] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Oh, Wallchain. You invited me. Okay. Got you. Did I invite you to Ethos, or are you even on it? [1:42:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Ethos. No. Send me the invite. [1:42:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: DM me that shit. [1:42:55] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Oh, dude. I didn't know you weren't on. I will. I'll do it right now. [1:42:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Suckers. [1:43:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Shmoney, do with the... Oh. Is this Yeah. Empress [1:43:05] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: because I literally asked you if you wanted an invite two weeks ago. [1:43:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? Really? I don't know. Empress says a lot. There's something about me not paying Something about me, like, not listening. I don't know. I wasn't really paying attention. You say I'm good to go? [1:43:23] Kkoma @itskkoma: Sorry. One more thing. Either way, the point stands. We need to slash that that dude. Who [1:43:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: is the dude? Who are we talking about? [1:43:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: The Welch. Welch guy. [1:43:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, he's on Ethos? Philip's on Ethos? [1:43:36] Kkoma @itskkoma: Well, if if... Even if he's not on Ethos, you can still slash him. [1:43:40] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Hope David gives it to you because I sure was fucking doing now. [1:43:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shit. [1:43:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's a meetup? [1:43:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Efren, I'm sorry. There's a lot going on. Okay. When did you... You can't tell me in group chats. You can't say that. You have to... It has to be... Shit. Don't tell me. [1:43:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, was... Was... [1:43:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fuck. Oh, fuck. [1:43:57] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: And his [1:43:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: thoughts? Individual DM on fuck. [1:44:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: Let's go. We don't [1:44:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: have money. This is Josh Money. What do got? [1:44:03] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: What's up, y'all? I'm Money Miller. Live from the front lines of shit contesting where the charts are made up and the market cap don't matter. [1:44:25] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: D is Let's talk about Elon Musk real quick. The man tweets a poop emoji, and my portfolio drops harder than Terra Luna at a trust fall. He's out here treating crypto like a damn Mario card item. Banana peel tweet, and boom, 5,000,000,000 wiped off the market. And y'all ever noticed that when the the Internet, just the damn Internet. But what worse UX than a wallet that gets hacked if you blink sideways? They're like we're building the future of finance. Bro, your app crashes when I try to scroll. That's not decentralized. It's depressing. Now let's talk about crypto devs or as I like to call them keyboard shamans. These dudes talk about building on shame, like they're rewriting the laws of physics. Meanwhile, they can't even write a proper unit test. Ask them about SDLC and they think it's a new token dropping on Solana next week. And then there's corporate America trying to sneak into crypto like it's a casual Friday mixer. We're launching an NFT to increase cross chain synergy via blockchain enabled synergy boosting technology. Bro, you sell printer ink. Sit down. Jeeps? Man, let's talk about them. Jeeps sell faster than a toddler on TikTok. I'm over here trying to huddle for generational wealth, and this dude panic dumps for eleven in a Subway coupon. And don't even get me started on rugs. I've been rugging so many times. My wallet comes with knee pads. These devs will say anything. This is a long term project, bro. Ten year road map. Next day, Twitter deleted. Discord silent. Contract self destructed. All that's left is a JPEG of a sad frog smoking a blunt. [1:46:12] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: But you know what? I'll be back tomorrow flipping coins, bridging blockchains, getting rugged with the homies. [1:46:29] Money Miller @ItsMoneyMiller: Because in web three, hope is the real token. [1:46:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm hoping. Topology. Let's go. [1:46:46] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Always good for a little comedy. Right? [1:46:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Shmoney. Appreciate that. That was amazing, actually, by the way. It was, like, ten year road map. [1:46:56] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Dave, check your GM. [1:46:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Best day. [1:46:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Best day. [1:46:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Day to go. Yes, Adam. Alright. I'm going. I'm going. [1:47:01] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: DMs. [1:47:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I [1:47:05] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I can't wait to write your review, man. I can't wait, bro. I might just slash you right off the bat. [1:47:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. Wait. [1:47:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: How does this... [1:47:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on a second. How does this work? If y'all gonna start slandering me No. [1:47:15] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: So what it... So the slashing, like, it's so it's a little fucked is that you can only... You have to be of a certain level to even try and... Like, I can't even slash people. And there can... Like, in the whole site, there can only be five slashes or four slashes or whatever happening at one time. So it's not like... It's rare to even... You know, for somebody to even get slashed. But, anyway, you just gotta get in there and check it out. [1:47:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: In case you guys have been living under a fucking rock, people are saying great things about me on the timeline. Okay? People love me. They absolutely love me. So slashing? If there's any slashing that's going on, you know what I'm looking at? Sloth, puppet, fucking monkey, m efer, capybara, duck, build over there with hat, whatever the fuck Sunny D is, and the jack dude that kicks everybody's ass in fucking karate combat. [1:48:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I'm sorry. The build over there with hat My fat still gets me. [1:48:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Build up verde with hat is so good. It is so good. I can't find build up verde with How [1:48:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: is it not a token yet? How did that not happen? [1:48:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Adam, I got an ETH addy coming over to you right now. Alright. What else is cooking? Koma just got rugged. Metabeast is back up. Viper, I need you to come up here. Even though my shit got hacked and I don't have an ETH, an ETH phone, I just remember talking with these guys at East Denver, aka me and Bill me and Bill Del Verde with hat. We're at East Denver, aka the the the county fair. Literally, it looked like a county fucking fair, which was crazy. And although I should probably be at ECC in Cannes in the South Of France right now, which is so nice. People are you coming to Cannes? You coming to Cannes? And I'm just like... [1:49:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. You go there. If you if you go there, you better protect your fingers. [1:49:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's... What? [1:49:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't get abducted. That's all I'm saying. [1:49:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, it's a good point. I ain't got no Bitcoin. I got no Bitcoin. It's like I've already been [1:49:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: cleaned out. Leave me alone. [1:49:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. I've already been cleaned out. Viper, I need to know what the what the four 1 one is, bro, on the ETH phones. Like, why... Like, do I go out and buy another one? Like, what's the drill? Yeah. Fill me in. But what else is cooking, boys? Anything else? And ladies? No. No. [1:49:42] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I got my... I burned my NFT for my ETH phone. Thanks for asking. [1:49:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What? You had to... Oh, you had to burn it in order to get the delivery? Is that [1:49:55] Kkoma @itskkoma: what's happening, or are [1:49:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: you just Oh. [1:49:57] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It's like I'm in a mess or two. It's just the long hair, I'm sure. [1:50:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, goddamn. Katana Mainnet is out, so enjoy. [1:50:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do tell. [1:50:08] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. That's that's [1:50:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: What are you guys yapping about lately? Now that yappio is fucking done and everyone got screwed over, like, what's the next... What what... What's the next cook over here? Like, comma, where are y'all looking? [1:50:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: Some people are talking about Metosis. I personally haven't. I'm I'm talking... I I wanna look into Katana a little bit more, but they they... Their main net stuff came out today. So I'm gonna start looking into that and digging into how I make more money. And then, yeah, Arbitrum, they did their snapshot today. So I got ranked number 12 on the thirty day, which is great. I think about four or five team members are ahead of me. So 12 minus five, maybe, like, seven or eight, that's gonna make me very happy. And then, yeah, those those... I don't know. I don't do as many projects as I used to. It's just too many. So I just focus on the ones that interest me. [1:50:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. Adam, what's the latest with the agent hustle migration? What's the deal, bro? [1:51:03] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Bro, I'm so tired. I can't even fucking describe, bro. We've been we've been busting ass. We're literally... Tomorrow, our migration site goes live. So if y'all don't know, we're moving our old token. Our our token was done on pump funds. Right? So we have... The the the team has basically no supply, and we don't control the liquidity pool. You know the deal with pump fund. And I think a lot of teams are in this spot where we did it because we thought it was a good idea, and now we're basically fucked maintaining a token that we can't control. Can't... Not even control, just to have no... And have no, like, interest in. You know? It's like, so, anyway, we we built a migration site, basically to help teams. They wanna, you know, unlock that liquidity pool and maybe get some extra tokens for themselves in the process. So we're launching it tomorrow. It's called migrate.fun. You can actually visit the website today. But, hustle's obviously gonna be our first token through the door, and we have a ton of interest from other teams who launched on whatever. I don't know what's it, the the beyond app or whatever, all the different kinds of launches that took place with teams who are now stuck with, you know, pump fun tokens or whatever. So Hustle's gonna be first... [1:52:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Pump fun killed the radio star. [1:52:23] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I mean, it's it's fine for meme coins, but for for teams that are actually trying to build something, it's brutal. And... Adam. So, anyway, so so we're gonna launch it. It's going live tomorrow at, like, 9AM, Pacific, and god help me. Everybody say a prayer, man, because I'm like, it's gotta work. But the team has been absolutely busting for, you know, two weeks trying to get this thing live. We have, we've met and had great combos with Radium. There's big interest from the Radium team to make this work. So, pray for me. It's it's live tomorrow, man, and it got... It's gonna be great, man. [1:52:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: You got this, bro. You got this. [1:52:59] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: It's gonna work. It's gonna work. [1:53:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: So it should be fun. [1:53:02] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I wanna see you succeed. Thanks, man. [1:53:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Appreciate it, bro. [1:53:05] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Appreciate it. [1:53:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit, Adam. Yeah, man. Come up. What... Do you wanna chime in? [1:53:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: No, Dave. I think we were just talking about this a couple of episodes ago when you were mentioning. I was like, why did they do it on pump fund? It makes no sense to me because if it's actually a legit project, the supply control is gonna be horrible. Like, and I didn't even really understand this concept. And, you know, it's... It has nothing to do with, like, Adam or the team. Like, personally, for me, I've been in crypto for a while and, like, this idea of supply control is like, oh, you know, it's too centralized if the company owns everything. But you know what? If you don't own... If you're... If you as a project don't own anything, then you can't, like, actually support people that wanna build on top of your your shit. [1:53:45] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Dude, you're 100% right. I I don't take offense to it. It was kind of like ours was launched by, like, our dev. Just launched it, like, as a test. He was literally just testing, and people, like, sniffed out his wallet because of his GitHub and blah blah blah blah blah. And all of a sudden, everybody ate in. It was like, oops. And so it's like an oopsie launch, I guess you'd say. But that shit happens, and we're just trying to honor it and and, you know, do right by it. But... Yeah. [1:54:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: I mean, you guys... You're obviously a good person because most people have been like, hey, guys. Sorry. You guys just randomly just looked at a dev wallet and then decided to do it. But, yeah, hoping that your... The transition goes well because, yeah, it's... Especially if you guys have stayed since then, that means that, you know, legit project just needs to figure out the tokenomics, and you guys will be fine. [1:54:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Come on. God forbid, we have a team with a moral fucking compass. Right? Like, who... God forbid. [1:54:36] Kkoma @itskkoma: Right. [1:54:37] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Morals are bearish, bro. You know that. [1:54:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: In this arena, like, I... I'm not even kidding, man. Morals, I don't [1:54:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: wanna Next thing you know, was gonna be like, if you guys give me 2,000 of these tokens, I'll give you back 4,000 of our tokens. [1:54:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Send me 1 BTC, and you'll definitely get back 3 BTC. [1:54:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. For sure. The the scammers the scammers make the most money crypto. Cool. [1:55:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: They do. What's next for you, bro? Like, what are you what are you... What are we yapping about? What are we quacking about? What are we snapping about? What's the deal? [1:55:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No. Not... There's still there's still... Like I said, what's changed everywhere right now? I think guys, there's a lot there's a lot going on. You can't you can't even think. We saw that Kaito, they reached over a $100,000,000 given out to the community. They surpassed the number, I think, yesterday, I think. Yeah, man. Yeah. It's it's it's crazy. And there's still 48 projects still remaining to to reward people. Plus, there is there is, I think, over over a $100,000,000 left on unclaimed Kaito tokens. So there's a possibility that almost everyone in this space right now is gonna qualify for season two airdrop for Kaito. So that's gonna be massive, guys. I swear. Because... And I think... And we saw... They announced, I think, this morning, I think there's a launch pad for Kaito coming soon in July. July is gonna be a big big big month. That's the the word. But I'm mainly focused on the improvise stuff, man. That's just the money is going right now as of for now. But... Yeah. So it's it's fun, man. It's fun. And I I think for me, you know, as a content creator, what it it allows me to do is I'm making content for different projects. You know? And so it kind of forces you to be a KOL. Right? And I don't... I'm not really big into the KOL stuff, but but you're... You're getting rewarded for your content. And while you're doing this, you're also growing. Because... So before Kaito launch, I was, like, 22,000. I've gained probably almost ten ten k 10 k followers between the the past four months. That's all from Infofyme, man. So I'm enjoying the the growth of my of my of my pays and my brand plus I'm mostly getting paid along the way. So it's it's it's a great time to be in crypto, man. If you know where to be. And, Dave, I was gonna say, I feel bad for you, bro. I I know you bought the the runestone at the top. And, yeah, that thing is down, like, 99%, man. But it's all good. Right? At least at least you let... You let your listeners Cool. [1:57:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: You missed what I said. I bought the runestone at the top, and I took a loan on the runestone, and I never paid back the loan. So somebody bought my runestone for 5 k. Wave [1:57:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: No way. Yeah. But What? [1:57:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was one of the, like What? It was one of the very well... This is way back when. Right? I I think it the April of last week. Probably April or May of last year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I saw that coming from fucking... It was the one call that I'm like, okay. This is definitely... Like, when this shit dropped, like, dog token imminent, I'm like, this shit's gonna drop like a fucking... Literally, like, a stone in the ocean right now. So I went on Liquidium. People still had fucking bids out there. Like, I mean, legit, there was still offers being made. And I was like, 5 k? Here you go. Somebody fucking took it. And I was like, thank you. You get to keep that asset. I'm gonna keep your 5 k, and then we Gucci. And, bro, it's [1:58:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: You know, [1:58:05] Kool @koolcryptovc: I I it was... What's... It was it was crazy. We don't... We all talked. I think they... I have a good community. Unfortunately, [1:58:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: you know, I I just think a lot [1:58:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: of exchanges didn't wanna show them love. It's so weird. Like, exchanges will list pump and dump scam tokens, but the legit ones, they don't list it. It's so weird, man. So strange. [1:58:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let... Landy Right. Is it what it is? So cool. Wait. Hold on. So cool. Landy, how is it trading on Kraken? I know you said listed, but is it actively trading? [1:58:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: And Yes. [1:58:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: And what's the actual volume on it, really? [1:58:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: The volume's been really good. I haven't looked at the more... I mean, inside of the first two hours, it had $1,000,000 in volume on Kraken's spot. So it's a bit... It's far above that at this point. I have no idea. I haven't really been keeping up with it that closely. But... Yeah. No. I mean, like, it's it's paving the way for just token listings in general. And I think they even changed it to, because it was dog and then it was runes, as the listing, and now it's Dog Bitcoin as the listing. So, like, they're they're doing it the right way. It's a good partnership. You know, the way that they got it to exchanges was not by paying in exchange to a tier one exchange like Kraken to actually list. So they had to go and do it themselves. So the process took a lot longer. You know? So there's there's perps on it, and there's spot on it now. And that's... We're gonna see more stuff like this, and I think that more and more exchanges are gonna start to look to some of the top performers on Bitcoin. And I think that there's teams out there that are still relevant on Bitcoin l one that are looking to, to get their tokens out there. You're gonna see a lot... Because Roons actually do have a use case. They are a vector for Bitcoin. So, now when you bring them to an exchange, they're not. They're a vector for Fiat, but you can always transfer them exchange and they're a vector for Bitcoin. I think that there will be a revival...... [2:00:15] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: For Bitcoin. We can't... We we need less vectors. [2:00:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. It's it's... Because it's directly traded against Bitcoin is what I mean. So it's it's a it's a Bitcoin play directly because of the token itself. Unlike, you know, you you... Everyone else uses, you know, especially in the trenches, they use the the outperformance, and then they have to swap from whatever it is that they're selling out of to Bitcoin if they want. But there's there's going to be use cases for l one ordinals protocol, which utilizes the witness data and, and the transaction, and then the UTXO data for Roon stuff. There's gonna be some really crazy stuff coming up soon. I actually cannot talk about some of it because I'm I'm working with projects on some cool stuff. And you're gonna see it because it's gonna go out to each network. The problem is just like any network, it's liquidity on the other side. Right? So who's gonna provide that? What do they get out of that? At the end of the day, it's a it's a liquidity game. That's why I said everything that I said earlier about look where the stablecoins are being issued and who's issuing them and where does that money go from there. That's really... That's the name of the game. It's all about liquidity. If you've been playing in the trenches and you see high market cap value coins and you immediately know what's the real value, it's the value that's in the liquidity pool, not the number you're looking at on the screen. So you're either gonna capture some of that value that's in liquidity pool or you're not. And there is a liquidity problem in crypto, but that's gonna be solved in short order, I think. [2:01:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. I'm just setting up my ethos profile, as we speak. Adam, it asked me if I wanted to go with another friend, but I decided, you know what? Let me not do that because you gave me a 14 boost, apparently. And I was like, you know what? Let me just go with Adam. Know? Bro, I'm writing your [2:02:11] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: first review right now, bro. So get ready. Incoming. View... Review incoming. [2:02:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: Wow. Dave Dave, let me let me tell you a secret. Adam's giving you a review, not a vouch. He's giving you a review. You know what that means? It means that he doesn't find you valuable. [2:02:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, bro. I'm I'm gonna vouch. [2:02:27] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I'm gonna put in, like, I don't know, 10 e, vouch vouch maybe 10, 20 eath. What should I vouch, bro? I don't [2:02:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. He doesn't even... They doesn't even know what you're... We're talking about. Vouch review? [2:02:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Does that... Is vouch is vouch deeper than [2:02:39] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: review ad Yes. So reviews, like, the first first level. The higher level is a vouch. In a vouch, you have to put up ETH. Right? That's what... Like, I just I just DM'd you, like, the tips. Like, if you wanna earn the bonus points, you gotta put money in. Right? Like, a vouch. The vouch... They're they're gonna do, like, this gambling type thing where if I put in, you know, 0.5 an ETH to Dave and vouch for you, in theory, people will be able to slash you. And if they slash you, you know, or cut your review, you know, you know, cut your rating, I would lose some or all of that ETH for vouching for you. And and that system hasn't been fully developed yet, but that's the idea. [2:03:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: So any... And and and [2:03:20] Kool @koolcryptovc: there's also there's also gonna be a massive airdrop for Ethos Waterways. [2:03:24] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: How do you know this, bro? How do you know this, man? [2:03:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: For you. Bro, come on. I'm already on it, man. [2:03:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Come on, [2:03:29] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: man. How much have they raised? [2:03:30] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I don't [2:03:30] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: know if it's gonna be massive. I don't think they've raised that much. [2:03:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: I have no idea, though. All all I all I know is this project made a lot of noise, and that... There's gonna be a massive reward. The more people vouch for you, the more people, you know, the more people you rate or rate you, you're gonna make a lot of money from this. So, yeah, that's just a a little quick offer there. [2:03:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: And, yo, I'll say this much, Adam. Like, Cool has the inside info, bro. I'm telling you right now, like, I will never doubt Cool insider info because every fucking source he's ever come to me... He come to this show with, I'm not even kidding, bro. [2:03:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro, I [2:04:00] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: don't I don't doubt it either. I have no idea. All I know is that anytime I try to farm something, it just ends up being a waste of time. So ethos, I'm not... Like, I don't give a shit. I'm just being a part of it because I do think it's, like, an important thing that we get right in crypto. Whether or not they get it right, you know, is to be determined still. [2:04:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're talking about worth 20 ETH? Put up the 20 ETH? Cheap ass. What the [2:04:20] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Bro, I wish I I I... If I had it, bro. If I had it. [2:04:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: But cool Do [2:04:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: you wanna know what the floor price is for for their their NFT? Ethos has an NFT. It's $4.20. 4.2. 4.2 e. [2:04:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: What the fuck? [2:04:35] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Cool. Hey. I actually did receive one of those bad boys, Dave. I I gotta say, cool. Tell me what my strategy is with my NFT, man. Should I dump that shit right now or what, man? What's my strategy, bro? [2:04:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: Man, that's kinda hard to say, man, because you you know how this stuff goes. Right? So I think I think it's so hard to say. I I I don't like I don't like certain NFTs, especially the ones that do have value. This NFT is held very, very strong, man. But what's crazy is people don't talk about this NFT as much. I don't know why. It's very weird. I think It's because everyone a lot of people got in. I I wanna just check it. They don't talk about the NFT, and it's it's very, very expensive, man. And what people don't talk about NFT that much. I I I believe there's gonna be some massive reward for this thing because it's holding its its floor price very, very well, man, compared to [2:05:24] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Do we know how much it's giving... Like, has somebody done a test to see how much it's giving in, like, bonus rewards each week now that they're kinda giving out the points each week? Does anybody know that? [2:05:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. They haven't announced anything. Right? Come on. I mean, I'll I'll be I'll be... You know? [2:05:39] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I don't think so. I I was just wondering if somebody's done, like, that test, like, you know, done it one week and then done it another week. [2:05:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're waiting for me to call on you because you have to to these fucking questions, I'm gonna kill you. [2:05:50] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, no. I was waiting for the the... Because I'm gonna fud the fuck out of what they're talking about. So I thought I was gonna just get, like, you know, get it over. [2:05:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Someone's slasher. [2:06:00] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. Someone's slasher right now. Oh, like, what the... I can't with you. How the hell could anybody have any idea what any type of... They're constantly going in and re... Like, tooling whatever the fucking method is. Oh, we're just gonna adjust this skill a little bit. We're gonna move [2:06:18] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: it this way. [2:06:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: They they [2:06:19] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: they have [2:06:19] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: to do. [2:06:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: They they... It's a... It's literally [2:06:22] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: impossible to build this thing [2:06:24] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: without it. [2:06:24] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: You just asked. How could anyone possibly know what they're shooting for if they're consistently changing the scale and moving the goalpost and telling you they're moving the goalpost at any given time? Plus, it is the most gate kept psychotic system. It's impossible. Everybody's stuck in neutral unless they live there. I I have heard one person in this space who is one of the most pretentious, educated, opinionated people. He's living over there. He's trying to, like, get, like, [2:06:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: king of the world over there, and he's [2:06:58] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: not accomplishing anything. I hate it. It's the worst one of all of them. It's fucking impossible. And Cole's over here. He's like, it's gonna be the best [2:07:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: money ever. [2:07:05] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Possible for the farmers. It's awesome. Not impossible for the real people. What [2:07:10] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: you just said to me. Did you hear it? [2:07:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: This mother... You called me a farmer. Right? That's fucking wild. [2:07:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: 24. It's it's a twelve twenty four score, which is pretty low. Like, it's almost close to being yellow. [2:07:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Are you [2:07:22] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: talking about mild? Yeah. Because I don't... I I can't... No. Yeah. Someone must have said do the daily checking. Guess why? Because I'm not a fucking farmer. [2:07:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: I feel bad for whoever referred you. No. They're [2:07:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: they're just [2:07:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: crying in [2:07:34] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: tears right now. Trust me. That k o l will be just fine. He will be just fine. He is not worried about me. [2:07:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sponsoring Empress for this whole wall change shit. And Adam, now that I think about it. And, comma, all that [2:07:46] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: comes up It is really interesting, [2:07:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: though. Like Yeah. [2:07:49] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Ethos is trying to be a ranks... A ranking system or, like, basically, you know, I don't know, Yelp for for crypto. But the thing is, like, it... It's bumped up against, you know, farmers, right, which are like, fuck. I'll just go on there. I'll write a thousand reviews, and I'll get all these farming points. And so it's, like, weird. It's, like, this trying to be, like, a ranking system for people and, like, a vouch system, and at the same time, farmers are all on top of it. [2:08:16] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Saying, though. Think about think about the rollout and who... Like, they they started with farmers. Like, get... It started with clouds. So, I mean, what kind of authentic ranking system... Like, it's it's above the rest when you're starting with clout as the gatekeepers to the system in the first place? [2:08:35] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: What do you mean it started with clout? What does that mean? [2:08:37] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: The people that were initially given the allocations for invitation to the super elite ethos thing at launch were the KOLs. Like, that's not... You're not... It's it's the popular voting for the popular. [2:08:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, I [2:08:52] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: don't know if it was KOLs. I mean, there were people in there who... I mean, I I remember commenting, because I was one of the first people to get on there [2:08:59] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Me too. I was [2:08:59] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: good in the week. And commenting on how, like, I got it. It was, like, half the people in the... At the top of the leaderboard. Like, some of them even had, like, privated Twitter accounts. Like, didn't even have, like [2:09:13] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: What would it... [2:09:14] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Those weren't big. These were... This wasn't cool and Dave. These were, like, people not even known on Twitter. You know I'm saying? [2:09:20] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: To what? Like, it it was it was a horrible lose who of of crypto. [2:09:27] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: No. It wasn't. No. No. It was not. [2:09:29] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I'll pull the thing. [2:09:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Absolutely not. For the Discord. [2:09:32] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Was not. [2:09:32] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: It was it was [2:09:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: like people with, like, 2,000 followers. [2:09:35] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: There were [2:09:35] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: tiny accounts. Wasn't the account... You guys aren't hearing me. It's not about the account popularity. It's about who the account is. It's not... [2:09:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, typically, it's associated... I mean, in first, typically, like, the association is, like, who it is. [2:09:49] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I'll go... I'll... You know what? I'm just gonna go get the screenshot, and you'll know what I'm talking about. [2:09:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm I'm more curious what the alternative is. So you just give it a little message and just... [2:09:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have something to opine on. Puppet? Alright. So have have we learned nothing from Yelp reviews and Amazon reviews and the freaking carpet bombing that all of that garbage already is? Come on. There's no way to stop this shit. We've tried for years and years [2:10:19] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: and years.... Fact they're trying to lend credibility to it is what's driving me crazy. [2:10:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: And it's what we got. If it can make me a dollar, what the hell? Why not? Everybody better go leave me a good damn review right now if you wanna [2:10:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: talk on [2:10:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: your stage fucking tomorrow. [2:10:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You have to you have to spend in order to do it. Right? You have to No. [2:10:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Reviews are free. [2:10:36] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Oh. It's free. I mean, I think what they're they're do... The difference of what they're doing with, like, a Yelp review or an Amazon review, though, is their idea is that they're adding a monetary incentive into the thing. Right? So you can say, hey. I reviewed this Amazon product, and my review is solid because I'm putting up a thousand dollars. And if a bunch of people say, well, this is a piece of shit. I got it, and it was a piece of garbage. I lose my thousand dollars. I think that's the differentiator between what they're trying to do and what everybody else has done in the past. Like, I mean, correct me [2:11:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: if I'm wrong. [2:11:08] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. There's a vouching aspect to it. Right? So... I mean... Sorry. Go ahead. Cool. [2:11:12] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I don't know. I'm looking at the profile now. You... You've been busy. Holy shit. You've been busy, bro. I'm looking... You... You've, you have 366,000 contributor XPs. You've vouched $233 since vouches that you have a 95% you have a 95% positive [2:11:32] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: My my only negative review, bro, my only negative review was a dude who reviewed my product, agent Hustle, and said... This is literally his his his his review was agent Hustle's one of the best KOLs on Twitter. He's always got the alpha. I was like, bro, he's a fucking robot who isn't even on Twitter. This is the fakest ass review ever. So I got onto him, and I wrote I wrote, this dude writes fake reviews and is bullshit. And then the and then the dude reviewed me and said, scammer. [2:12:07] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: No fucking way. That's [2:12:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: great. Yeah. Find crypto on Twitter. I don't know what it does. [2:12:11] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Yeah. Totally, bro. Totally. [2:12:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm looking at Dave's right now. Dave has zero contributions. [2:12:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Signed up, bro. [2:12:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: Zero vouchers. Ago. Zero reviews. [2:12:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Man, good luck. [2:12:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: Rank 524,000. [2:12:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Y'all better start leaving some reviews. Cool. That's awesome. Everybody up here. [2:12:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. No. No. No. I'm trying I'm trying to do this, man. I I I mean, I'm on Epos when I was much... You know, but I'm just... It's hard to keep track of everything. I'm gonna try to give you guys a a nice review, man. [2:12:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't try to be a nice review. Make it happen. [2:12:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: I mean, gonna go right there [2:12:45] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: to them here. [2:12:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: I think Ebris brings up a good point. There are obviously flaws in this system, but from what I can tell, it's been one of the more better ways to figure out verification. Whenever I see someone on the on the... On x with the blue, like, circle or, like, you know, through the Chrome extension, I I kinda feel I kinda feel like, oh, this guy is somewhat reputable. And then there have been some pretty shitty post Kaido pre TGE projects that just really screwed over people like humanity protocol. And everybody was super pissed, so they started slashing the shit out of the project and the founder because apparently another... Like, a video also leaked of the founder talking to one of their bigger supporters and was basically shitting on all the Yappers and the people that were supporting him. And then he exposed it, and then and then the founder basically removed all of his allocation. So, yeah, I think from that perspective Yeah. Close is, like, good at reviewing both positive and negative. [2:13:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Coma. Yeah. Coma, you're doing well too, mate. Yeah. You you have 100% positive reviews, man. 100%. So no negative reviews, about $20.18 bucks. Contribution, $2,025,000 XP. So, yeah, man. Good girl. You've been... People people trust you. They they they they trust you with their girlfriends and wives and kids. Homer, if you wanna Yeah. [2:14:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you wanna keep that streak up, you know what's good for you. Review now. [2:14:15] Kkoma @itskkoma: Well, that's not gonna get your view. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell all my Ethos friends about [2:14:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: you. The Ethos cabal is gonna come after me. [2:14:23] Kkoma @itskkoma: The Ethos cabal. Wait. So, Adam, if I get if I get questions, [2:14:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: does that reflect negatively on you, like, the refer? [2:14:29] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Probably. Yeah. Probably. Because [2:14:35] Kkoma @itskkoma: you invited us... It's like if you invite a bad person, you know, it's like a pyramid scheme almost, but it's just [2:14:40] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I mean, it... It's kinda... It was it was kinda wacky, and Empress is right in this point. Like, I had to... I basically... For whatever reason, this one caught my eye. Right? And I basically... You know, people were like, oh, I got on. If you want one, hit me up. So I'd... Don't even know who invited me. Like, I don't even remember who it was. You know? Some dude. Some random dude. You know? It was like doing a drug deal. Like, hey, man. Please invite me. You know? So in that way, that's true. But I... You know, it's like almost anything. How do you do it fairly at the beginning? It's really difficult, you know, other than just making it open to everybody, and that would have been a complete disaster. Right? So... But but that... To that point, Empress is right about the beginning kind of, you know, start of who was on board first. [2:15:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm lost. So all I know is is this is Yelp reviews for KOLs and non KOLs alike. It can be astroturfed, but also might not be as astroturfed as people think. But, eventually, when it does fully open up, it will be completely astroturfed, so don't piss people off online. And I know [2:15:46] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: that tomorrow know, Andy. [2:15:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: But tomorrow, I know that I have to transfer my tensor to Hustle, and I need to go visit the website. [2:15:58] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: The problem is is because it's that... So, like, if you... Your sentiment is higher, the seniority piece of the puzzle matters. This what I'm saying. It's a very complicated thing, and they keep moving it around. [2:16:11] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Well, what do you mean they're moving it around? Like, what what does that mean? [2:16:14] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: They have retooled or recalculated. [2:16:18] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Oh, well, they have to. [2:16:19] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Mean, have they to figure it out. I mean, look. They have they've had tons [2:16:22] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: of bots.... Saying the people that aren't the KOLs, because if you go look at the first six pages of the initial invites that were there, the people that are come... Coming in at the end are... Like, that's what... People are, like, gonna be stuck under that lower number. The people who have been there are well on the high pretty blue side of that chart. The the time alone shows, like... Do you see the... [2:16:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: So Oh, [2:16:45] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I understand what you're so you're say... You're you're saying, hey. You... You're not worried about the the kind of farming mechanism. You're saying, hey. My credibility score should be higher than this dude because this dude, nobody even knows who he up on it after the [2:16:59] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: sixth time that they calculated. [2:17:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: I was like, fuck that. Have I some I do have some some some some breaking news, man. I'm looking at Empress's ethos profiles. She has 100% positive ratings. [2:17:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's how I know it's bullshit. That is total bullshit. [2:17:16] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Yeah. You always like to see a couple of [2:17:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: videos in there. [2:17:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'll watch now. We shot 100% positive rating. [2:17:23] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Just gonna look it right now. It's because I have one rating. [2:17:27] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Who's the rating? [2:17:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, is [2:17:28] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: that right? You only have one review? No. Come on. [2:17:31] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Is that true? I do not. I'm telling... I call it... It 100 I percent, though. Don't like it. [2:17:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: It is a [2:17:36] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: 100 I'm gonna go write a review right now. Here we go. [2:17:40] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hey. Awesome. [2:17:40] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Damn it. Now I'm getting kicked off the platform. I forgot [2:17:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: to get the thing it is. Hold on. Hold on. [2:17:47] Kkoma @itskkoma: Maybe I'll ask for it. [2:17:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: Y'all are literally peacocking over your fucking social credit scores at this point. That's what this is. [2:17:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Flashback. Is a [2:17:56] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: goddamn social credit score.... Not... I've... You hear me. I really... I'm seeing people crash out that are never going to be able to accomplish certain social credit scores, and that's the point that I'm trying to make. I'm trying to normalize it for the people that... I heard a woman. I'm just gonna say it. She was following 2,500 people. She was followed by 300 people, and she was on a stage crashing out that she wasn't on a Kaido leaderboard. And I just... I'm trying to make people understand these things are tilted a little way. That's all. [2:18:32] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Please don't crack, Jamie. [2:18:33] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: And who gives a fuck? [2:18:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm moving to the antisocial network. [2:18:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's it's... This this store is all is all fun. And I think the reason why this is a big deal because guess what? Itos is not available to everybody, but you need to be invited, man. It's like a... It's a VIP of VIP. So that... I'm just being honest, though. I'm just being honest. [2:18:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: If you're not on here, then [2:18:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: then it's it's not easy to get on. I'm just telling you it's hard to get on there. You need [2:19:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: be invited. A... [2:19:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: Have a question.... There. Cool. [2:19:03] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. What's up, bro? [2:19:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Can I make money on this or not? [2:19:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You can. [2:19:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: You can. If... I'm so... I'm sure that there's there's gonna be... [2:19:11] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: You are such an egomaniac. You say you want an invite then. You say you want an invite right now, you egomaniac. Don't act like you care about the money. [2:19:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I wanna know if it... No. I don't give a shit. If I can't make money, I don't give [2:19:24] Trav @trav_4211: a fuck. [2:19:25] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Then I've got Wait. Are you not are you not on, Landy? You're not on? [2:19:28] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Send me your son back, Landy. I don't want people reviewing the datecoiner. [2:19:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's that easy. Oh my god. Nobody volunteers. [2:19:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: You gotta go make another ETH ADDIE now? Shit. [2:19:50] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Hey, Dave. Go fuck yourself. I offered it two weeks ago to you. [2:19:54] Kkoma @itskkoma: You could just try try something in your Bitcoin address to see if that works, Landy. It's like putting s. [2:19:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know. You are not footprinting me based off of any Bitcoin addresses. You can have all the ETH ones. You'll be running around in circles trying to find me. [2:20:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Does that mean if I connected all my wallets up for the Pengu airdrop, the $312 that I got in the Pengu airdrop? [2:20:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're fucked. I'm kidding. Oh my god. [2:20:16] Kkoma @itskkoma: You're so fucking. [2:20:17] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: See, Dave, Coinbase has got you. They got you on the phone. [2:20:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't worry about it. [2:20:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: That wasn't the biggest Fed operation ever. People were like, oh my god. Need to connect more wallets, and I got more Pengu. And it's just like, okay. It's kinda pumped. It's like the day that [2:20:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: it pumps, like, [2:20:28] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: I was imagining...... Bad enough than the free sock operation for On Chain Summer. That's the one that just kills me every time. [2:20:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: What sock? [2:20:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: What kind of sock? [2:20:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. The free... No. The On Chain Summer stuff. Look. You can connect all your wallets if you want to the sock account. Go ahead and try that. Hey, Philip. Go ahead and connect your wallet to the upcoming moist sock website. Let's see what happens. [2:20:53] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Are you sending me an ETH address? [2:20:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: I gotta pick. I gotta rope it up the fucking... [2:20:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Lendy Naunton.... Address. Lendy Naunton tip. We need to we need to boycott. What do [2:21:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: I gotta I gotta [2:21:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: fucking find a way to fund it from... So that it just attract back to me to this fucking weird network where people are gonna be reviewing me. [2:21:15] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Like, hey. Look. Landy the [2:21:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: the Bitcoin guy. Oh, no. This fucking guy is not Just bridge it a couple times, transfer it back to fiat, then back into crypto, bridge it some more times, and then fucking... You'll give you... You'll be good. I promise my end of day, my [2:21:28] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: will buy extra short for you, Lance. [2:21:30] Kkoma @itskkoma: He's gonna be so happy. [2:21:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Goddamn it. Build a whiff hat. Extra short. [2:21:38] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: He said build a whiff hat. [2:21:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. That's a wrap. Everybody have a good night. Cool. Good night. Andy, Adam, Empress, Coma, Shmoney, Bill Jong.... Easy, bro. Trev, Medabees, and everybody else. Have a good night, guys. I'm gonna go eat some dinner. I'll talk to y'all later. [2:21:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm bullish on the penny. [2:21:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bullish on what? [2:22:01] ๐ฌ๐ด๐ท๐๐๐๐โฎ @Hope_ology: Panties. He said panties. Okay. Bye now. [2:22:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Goodbye.
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