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Episode ยท Jul 21, 2025

All Things Crypto: Migrating Locked LP s? Yep, the $HUSTLE Team did it

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The space opened with casual banter and excitement over ENS subdomains and their practical use cases before diving into market analysis, with Dave asserting alt season is underway while Landy and Kool emphasized the need for Bitcoin dominance to trend lower and Ethereum to clear key resistance for a true altcoin season to begin. The conversation explored fear and greed indices, cycle awareness, emotional trading versus long-term holding, and the evolving Kaito platform changes around leaderboards, AI slop, and upcoming KYC requirements for its capital launchpad. A deep discussion on NFTs, Ordinals, and Hyperliquid NFTs followed, highlighting the difference between floor price and actual bids. The episode concluded with an in-depth conversation with the $HUSTLE team (Bread and Adam) about their migrate.fund platform, which enables projects with locked LP from Pump.fun to migrate to new contracts, unlock liquidity, build treasuries, and gain metadata control. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

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DaveKoolLandyBreadKkomaSamaraSunny DTravMetaBeastVibes
Chapters
Janelle Monae yoga video banter and show open
Alt season debate begins with Dave's strong claim
Nat Nat return hype and ENS subdomain gifting
ENS subdomains, value distribution, and recap automation
Thread guy DMCA and trademark drama
Bitcoin dominance, market metrics, and alt season thesis
Fear and Greed Index, Altcoin Season Index, and Coinbase app signals
Emotional trading vs long-term holding and cycle skepticism
Kaito platform changes, KYC for capital launchpad, and AI content issues
AI-generated content, smart followers, and the future of engagement platforms
NFT season, CryptoPunks, Ordinals sweeps, and Hyperliquid NFTs
Floor price vs actual bids and NFT trading psychology
Tron Bull Club NFT utility and in-game skins
Sun Pump space recap demonstration and allthingscrypto.eth rollout
migrate.fund platform explanation and locked LP migration mechanics
Base creator coins, Zora content coins, and tokenizing moments
Transcript
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# All Things Crypto: Migrating Locked LP s? Yep, the $HUSTLE Team did it | 2025-07-21 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1vOGwXMEBYdJB | status: approved
# Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed.

[0:00:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: You ever seen the Janelle Monae yoga video, boy?
[0:01:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. This video, boy. Cool.
[0:01:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love Janelle Monae.
[0:01:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes, Janelle. I would gladly kiss your areola. Gaga, what up? Landy, what's good?
[0:02:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Justice, it's good to see you. Justice. Emp, what's good?
[0:02:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I do yoga? Find out.
[0:02:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nothing. What up? It's good to see you. Golden, what's good? Milo, what up?
[0:03:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Johnny boy. Sun cat in the building. What up, baby?
[0:03:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Vince, what up?
[0:03:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up everybody? Happy Monday. What's good? Hope everybody's doing well. Happy new week. Monday, man, markets are still cooking. I'm gonna fight with Landy and Cool all day today because I'm still gonna say that all coin season is motherfucking here. They're gonna tell me Bitcoin dominance and blah blah blah and Coinbase apps aren't there and that. Whatever. I say Coinbase. I don't give a shit. Alt season is here. That's my claim. Cool. Looks good, my brother. What we doing? What's up?
[0:04:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey, Dave. What's up, guys? Happy new week. Happy New... Happy Monday. So, Lance, you saw your video. Okay? Dave, what's up? Yeah. Sorry, bro. I'm gonna send you the address today, bro. I'm like, I just... I I I just got home in the garage right now. I'm gonna send you address. Once I walk in the house, I won't get that address. I promise.
[0:04:25] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: I'm a send
[0:04:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: you right now. Wait. Happy new week, guys. Happy new week.
[0:04:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Good stuff, Kool. Guys, and me and Kool got some good news this morning. There's a certain someone that might be making her return to ATC very, very soon. I
[0:04:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: can't wait. Oh my god. I can't wait. I cannot wait. Nat Nat is good. She's good. She's... Everything is cool, recovering. Everything is fine. Everybody healthy. Thank god. Shout out Nat Nat. If you're listening or go back to the replay, we miss you. We cannot wait to have you back here with us. Yeah. I'm I'm dying to have Nat back here, man. There's been this dynamic that's just been missing in this show for a minute. We've been killing it, but Nat Nat brings a whole other dynamic to this show that is just next level stuff. So, yeah, can't wait to have Nat Nat back. Puppet, Landy, what is good, bro? Thank you again for earlier, my man, for coming on the stream with us, dude. What's good?
[0:05:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. That was fun, man. You know, not not much has changed since then. Still just watching markets and, you know, just testing out different platforms with people that we know. Cool stuff happening all around the place. Look. There's just exciting shit that's happening all the time, and everyone's always wrapped up in price and all that kind of shit. Obviously, I'm a price guy. I do all the TA stuff, but I'm just excited about this... The things that are being built. Because the things that are being built are going to influence and change the future for all of us, and it's really awesome stuff. And in fact, you showed off some really awesome stuff earlier today, that was really cool to cool to learn about for me, especially.
[0:06:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Cool. That... Landy literally goes, oh, this ENS stuff is cool. When did they build it? Like, what what... How long is it... How long has this been around? And I'm like, because they did... They just build this? I'm like, bro, ENS has been around for, like, five years, bro. And he's like, oh, yeah. This is pretty cool. I then sent Sunny d some Tron via the ENS name, and then Sunny d goes, let me put your Bitcoin address. We're gonna send you some Bitcoin. Bro, it was a shit show. I'm literally pulling the clips right now from the livestream. It was so so good. Guys, wait until you see what you can do with these subdomains, man. I'm up to a hundred and fifteen minuted so far. If I haven't sent you yours yet, just be patient with me. If you haven't sent me a wallet address, like, I... If you're in this room now, just send me your wallet address. I'll see your name. You know, you're not do anything, but just send me your wallet address. If you don't, and I know that you're a regular listener and you're busy and you just haven't gotten around to it and you just kinda have the AirPods in, I will gladly send it over to you. No problem to your banker bot wallet. No worries. No issues. I know Landy got his. Cool got his. Sunny d got his. No credits. You got yours. Vince, you got yours. Justice, you got yours. Amp, I'm... I was gonna... Amp, unless you, Amp, I need you to send me a freaking... What's it called? Nifty boy, I got yours. Nothing if you want one. Gaga, I minted one for you. So it's going to your banker bot wallets if I don't get addresses from you guys. And when you see these clips, you're gonna be like, oh, shit. This is some serious stuff out here, man. Like, these guys are not playing around. The amazing recap that I showed Sunny d... I'm not even gonna say I'm not even gonna say. I'll let Sunny d and and everybody else say who did it. But Sunny d, thank you again, man. I'll I'll say the same thank you to you, man, for coming on the stream today and obviously being apart, man. Absolutely amazing. Thank you. What's good?
[0:07:54] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yo. Yeah. A little spontaneous livestream earlier today. It was pretty awesome. Like, Dave's... You know, he he he... He's all over the place, but what he's building in in in a good way, right, in a in a great way, like facilitating conversations, getting people out a little out of their comfort zone, sharing information that, you know, really helps communities all across the whole space, like, huge props to you. And, you've been experimenting with different ideas on, like, how to kinda, like, take that value that you're generating and helping generate everywhere and, like, pull that information into a central hub and and in a way reward the people that show up to this, you know, this core homegrown show that you've got going on here, all things crypto. Dude, it's... I... Like the pieces... I saw the pieces line up And the way that you're assembling information, you're gonna be able to distribute it to people is, you know, using these tools on ENS. It's simple, but it's also, you know, it's just information packed, and it's it's... It condenses it and organizes it. And when you begin distributing that information from all your spaces in your own central hub... Dude, I'm I'm here just watching you, you know, ride the rocket because you're finally finding a way to, like, to pull all this value into a hub where, you know, you can make it easy for your community, your core community, your homegrown community, sweat, bloods, and tears community to be able to enjoy being part of this community apart from the awesome elite vibes.
[0:09:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate you, Sunny d. Thank you, bro. Good stuff. Yeah. And and they... And I'll say this again. Like, the the... Like, it is you guys, like, this... It's this cast of characters that, like, we curate super carefully that we don't just bring anybody up on this stage, especially as a regular speaker because the recaps genuinely... The quality of the recap is dependent on the information that we disseminate, that these people... That that this freaking all star crew disseminates every single ATC episode, ninety minutes a day, four days a week. That... And if it fucks up, I can't go to sponsors and be like, give me more money, obviously. So it's a two sided thing. You know what I mean? We wanna make sure we get the right information over to you guys, number one. And then it obviously allows me to then go to sponsors and really command, like, some really... Like, high dollar stuff. And, yo, Justice, massive shout out to you. I'm gonna be putting so many audiograms on the timeline today. Justice has been absolutely killing it for me on the audiogram side. So, Justice, I appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you so much for doing what you do. You are an absolute beast out here. So come on up here, Justice. Whenever you get a chance, I can properly thank you. My page six sister. Empress, but it's good.
[0:10:49] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Sorry. Slater is being a political correspondent.
[0:10:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? Say what? Where and what? A political correspondent?
[0:11:00] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: What? Sometimes I do that political side of Twitter. I watched somebody get bounced around like a basketball last night, and they wanted a recap. It was pretty fun.
[0:11:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Get bounced around like basketball. I love it. God. Guys, talk it... Y'all don't... You guys realize, like, the value that is in this m effort, like, PFP? Some of y'all might not realize this, but, like, do you realize, like, what's... What this what this this crew is gonna do when when Nat comes back? We have Empress, Landy's here, like Sunny, Dee, Trav, Buildup. Like, we have such a diverse freaking crew. It is nuts. It is absolutely crazy. But I'll get into the markets in a second, but the one thing I just have to start with today... Wait. Is everybody anybody... No. Nobody else left here. Okay. The one thing I have to start with today is that the the Thread guy stuff. The Thread guy stuff... Landy, I started looking into that after we chatted about it on the livestream. This shit is too... Yo. Cool. Did you see this shit? Like, now he's getting DMCA notices. This one's buying his daddy. This one's No. Trademarking this one. Oh my... It's... Like like, I mean, Landy, give... If you wanna give the breakdown, but I've been reading this just for the last, like, hour. It is fucking hysterical.
[0:12:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Is it Griffin on, like, on the alt that bought the threadguy.e?
[0:12:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Yes.
[0:12:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So it was... And then d d m c ed him.
[0:12:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. Yeah. He's like, oh, I I own the .com, the.net, the.this. And he was like, yeah. Trademark. Copyright. This, that. And I was like, oh,
[0:12:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. Trademarked it. Yo. That was a different account. Now I'm like, wait. Is Griffin also this other account, or did this other guy just trademark the threat guy?
[0:12:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, there's two of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's two of them. So Griffin was the one that DMCA'd him. The other guy was the trademark copyright guy.
[0:12:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm like, I'm dying. I'm like, you cannot get... This is rough out here for a thread man. He's gonna have to call himself thread man now. He's not a thread guy. It... I wouldn't be surprised if they start taking thread gal, thread girl, thread thread boy. They're gonna take all of it, and they're just... You know, it's so wild. Like, he's gonna have no presence under his own damn fucking handle anymore.
[0:13:15] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Former thread god is laughing his ass off.
[0:13:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, what was the... What's the dude's... What is the the main account's name? It's something like... Oh, shit. I had it in there, and I freaking lost it because we've been chatting. The the main account was some... You you said it yesterday, didn't you, on on the reset, Dave, what the main account was?
[0:13:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: The main account for... It's it's like The one that grabbed
[0:13:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: that guy is is So
[0:13:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: the the the handle is, like, the, like, the actual thread guy that everybody knows, the handle is at not thread guy, and he calls himself thread guy. Right? But, like, when you say the main handle, what do you mean?
[0:13:57] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Guy that posted the initial trademark thing that he put
[0:14:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: in the chat. I I I
[0:14:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: got it somewhere. I got it somewhere. Let me let me find it real quick. It's too good.
[0:14:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because it's like something like a... Something guy in... Or thread... Thread boss. I forget what the hell his name was. But the whole thing is just hilarious to me because how are you gonna... One, how are you gonna be that big in terms of your reach on social media platforms and you take zero ownership over any of your name. That is wild to me. That is wild. Just start up a shell company, get somebody else to do the... Do all the paperwork. Get a lawyer to do the paperwork. You can stay hidden. You don't have to be out. Like, could have done it.
[0:14:43] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Sandy, why would you point out that you've taken zero ownership?
[0:14:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... Well, I mean I mean, I I
[0:14:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. He thought he was flexing and... Because he was like, iown.com. Iown.com. Own
[0:14:55] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: me. Like, why would
[0:14:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, no. I'm saying, like, why did the not thread guy thread guy... The guy
[0:15:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: that I own
[0:15:01] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: now But he's... He kicked it off, though, Landy, by trying to flex and be like, I own this. I own... I'm like, but
[0:15:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: he didn't He did try to say that?
[0:15:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That was him. It was the... Oh, it was the... Yeah. Lindy, it was...
[0:15:13] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: He read...
[0:15:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was the actual thread guy that was saying... Because somebody flexed on him. Was like, oh, it doesn't even know his dot eth name because they bought it, right, for 4 eth when you point that out. That's why I started looking into it. And then earlier today when I started looking at it, I'm like, wait a minute. He literally, like... The actual thread guy went and was like, well, I own the.com, the. This, the dot that. We were like, what the fuck?
[0:15:32] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Then... So my response was, bitch, I own you, and you print
[0:15:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: your trademark shit. Yeah. That's what I can wanna...
[0:15:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. That makes it even
[0:15:41] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: funny. Think that's he's
[0:15:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sunny. Go ahead.
[0:15:45] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Cool's always telling us cool's always telling us to just be humble.
[0:15:50] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Not me, man. I go to every chain that comes out while I'm doing all the research, and I'm like, add empress because there's, like, 19 empresses. I'm like, suck it, bitch. Add empress. Add empress. I got addempress.net even.
[0:16:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: You don't have empress.east, though. I saw who has that, and that's fucking... What's his name? That's goat.east. That's what's his name. The dude fucking just owns so many .east names.
[0:16:12] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Right? I got here a little late for that. I wouldn't have had the opportunity.
[0:16:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, listen. You got here earlier than Landy who was like, how long does ENS thing been around?
[0:16:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: What... No. No. No. No. I have ENSs. I I just didn't... I was wondering why when I posted them back in the day, and people were like, yo. I sent it to your ENS. And I was like, no. You didn't. And I was like, oh, wait. I have to go and set the wallet.
[0:16:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: You never updated the record, you fucking genius.
[0:16:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: I just own the dude. They're just they're just tossing it, Ethan, to the fucking void.
[0:16:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ridiculous. Gotcha. Let me say what's up to Samar. Samar, welcome, man. What's good, my bro?
[0:16:50] Samara @thee_samara: Yo. Jim, Jim, Dave. Jim, cool. Landy, Empress, Sunny d. Chat to you guys, man. Yeah. Sorry to show up late, man. I was just... I was in route, but, yeah, I'm here now. What's what's going on, guys?
[0:17:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Appreciate you, bro. As always, thank you for pulling up. Yeah, man. Everybody up here got their fucking Domi themes. I like it. I did a whole stream earlier today. Was telling everybody I'm literally pulling the clips now so you guys can see what the hell we're doing with this stuff. This is This is gonna be the area of the area of driving value. And people are noticing, man. People are definitely noticing. And speaking of the thread guy whole thing, like, just to put a pin in this, I saw... So Bloom Capital was one of, like, the bigger players, right, in the ENS space. Right? It was Bloom and Vision and and a few others. And Bloom was literally like, okay. I was wrong about the digits because you remember it like, the three digits and four digits, and he literally registered thread guy one dot eth. And I'm like, oh god. Here we go. We're gonna kick off this whole new fucking... A whole new... Oh my god. I just remember the nonsense.
[0:17:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is your big opportunity. This is this is it. How many ENS names you've been holding for how long? Come on.
[0:17:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, this is my luck. You know how some people say, like, oh, my luck is always when I sell? That's when everything goes flying. Bro, I had, like, 500 names. I think at this point, like, maybe 400 of them have officially all expired, And I've kept, like, just, like, the bare bare minimum of them. But, yeah, I... Bro, I shit the bet on one of them, bro. Like, I couldn't... I was in a... It was a tough spot for me, but I I sold searchgpt.eath for fucking $500, bro. Oh my god. That's a killer. That was a killer. Guy messaged me, found me on Twitter. He was like, hey, man. I just shot you an offer, and I was like, what? For real? I had registered it, like, a month or two prior. And now, like, when you're gonna see everything, you see perplexity search. It's only a matter of time before OpenAI makes... They've already made the search g t announcement, but, but I don't search gpt.box, which is kinda like, you know, Anyways... Okay. Enough of the thread guy madness. Let me see what's cooking on the... The time of the day. Markets are looking good, man. I will tell y'all right now. Markets looking good. Bitcoin a little bit down. Guess what? This gotta be day number 20 fucking nine out of whatever land is gonna say. It's still up and cooking over 3,700. XRP $3.52. Fucking BNB closing in on 800 at $7.60. Seoul closing in on 200. Passes a $100,000,000,000 market cap to reclaim that for the first time in a very, very, very long time. What else we got? Doge is still holding at 27ยข, and guess what? TRX, the little engine that fucking could, 31 and a half every day. 29 and a half, twenty nine seven, 30, 30 and a half, 38.7, 31, 31 and a half. The little engine that could. And don't look now, but TingLink has moved into the seventeenth spot on overall total market cap of 13,000,000,000, which in my opinion is still massively, massively undervalued because Chainlink power is literally fucking every single thing out here. So, don't tell me altcoin season is not here, but, Landy, and then cool, like, y'all could tell me. Go ahead. Tell me why altcoin season isn't here.
[0:20:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, altcoin season isn't here because this is only the first big move down on Bitcoin dominance, and it's... You know, the the reason why your Bitcoin dominance is accelerating down... Just for some context, with Bitcoin dominance last year in November, it went down... In a very short period of time, it went down by 12% or so. We're just now hitting eight and a half percent down, but that's actually what we wanna see. We wanna see healthy moves up, a nice big run up on Ethereum and Solana now following and finally breaking out to the upside into some key levels. It's all about the... Wherever the highs come in here, when it corrects and the market does correct, whether it's, you know, Bitcoin and then US dollar pairs for ETH and everything else follow, we have to watch is does Bitcoin dominance rebound really heavily, or does it stay kinda steady on the lows, maybe a little bit of a lower high and start to trend down? Because this is not a trend just yet on longer term time frames, but it could become one that could potentially start to kick off, alt season in earnest. I'm telling you right now, I've said this everywhere I go, ETH below 4,400 does nothing for me. You're gonna look at the highs, that it's put in the past couple of, years here, and it's at 4 k. So really... Realistically, there's big overhead resistance at 3,900 to 4,400. If it clears that, especially on weeklies, that's where things really start. That's where the rubber hits the road. I think that's where we start to see ETH head to its all time high, start to break out above. That's the real alt season right there. Everything else will follow it.
[0:21:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: But then you're gonna miss all the, like, the monster moves like that. Anyway, Empress, go for it.
[0:22:02] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Just wanna say you underestimated me just because somebody got empress.eth. If you look above, I got impressive.eth. See, I can pivot. Just FYI.
[0:22:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Pivot. Pivot. That's it. Pivot.
[0:22:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, I I wanted to answer you real quick because what'll be really impressive will be if when we get when we get a correction on ETH, it's very likely gonna put in higher lows. And that's where you wanna see Bitcoin's, dominance still headed down. That's where that's where the opportunity lies right now. It doesn't lie when it's read up against resistances. It lies when it corrects and it starts to carve out the next higher low on the daily and potentially the weekly because that's more than likely what is gonna happen statistically. The last eth, weekly higher low is all the way down at... Let's see. That would be $2,100. Remember, that was the big area I wanted to see hold. It held... When it did... It... When it hit 3 k again, it's... It went and hit, 2,100. It held that area. Now it's in higher low structure. And I would say the next big correction is where the opportunity on the next big higher low is going to present itself to really set it up for potential, full blown alt season. That's where... This this is gonna get crazy if it does, start to play out that way, and this could be the beginnings of that. Right? And and that's where... I'm not a fan of buying the highs when it's ripping like this. Gotta see the correction, and then I'll I'll I'll place my bets. Much like, you know, Cool and I and and all of us were talking about on stage when when ETH, you know, hit the 1,500 and below, that was, like, the perfect opportunity. It was a big zone, big yearly level. It was, like, such a massive level for Ethereum that it was, like, even if it goes down more, you just buy. So it would make sense on the next big high that comes in, look for the higher low. That's opportunity all day. Likely gonna see altcoin season after that.
[0:24:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fine. I'll concede whatever. Cool. Do you wanna pile on over here? Or...
[0:24:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. There's there's no there's no piling on, man. It's just the... That's the numbers. The numbers, I love this stuff because I spent two years in the bear markets, you know, licking my wounds on how I rolled close to a seven digit portfolio to low low low mid fives with, you know, from first cycle. And it it was a painful... It's just painful to see how things played out. And it was because I didn't know. I didn't understand the markets. I didn't get I didn't get it, man. But I I I spent two years just studying and studying and studying, reading, reading, studying why it failed. And the reason was I never understood the Bitcoin dominance. I didn't understand liquidity. I didn't understand market cap. I didn't I didn't understand when the the whales are buying, you know, you should be doing the same thing. I didn't understand when, you know, when crypto... Twitter is bullish, you should be selling. Right? So all those things, you know, I had to learn the hard way, which is fine, but I think you live and you learn, and, you know, you grow you grow as you as you learn. You grow as you learn. And this is exactly the same thing that I... That I'm seeing right now. Right? It's just by the numbers. Right now, I'm on coin market cap. I love this because it's, it's it's very, newbie friendly, and anyone can use this stuff. You don't have to be, you know, some kind of trading experts. Very, very simple. Go to coinmarketcap coinmarketcap.com. This website, I love it. They have a app also. I think it's actually owned by Binance. I think Binance bought it or CZ bought it. So this site here, there's two things you can look at. Right? Fear and greed index. That's the first thing. The fear and greed index is more of a of a short term type, you know, indicator. Second the second one is the altcoin seasonal index. Okay? They... You could you could check it right now, you know, if you want to... So the fair and fair and green index right now is at six seven. Right? It's numbers that's, you know, out from zero to a 100. And whenever... Remember when big, Bitcoin or ETH, ETH was at 1,400? It was bad, guys. The fear and greed index was at four... Well, between nine fourteen. Extreme fear. That was the best time to buy, and I was yet telling people to buy, because I saw that the big money bags were actually bullish while the numbers were horrible. To to... Crypto Twitter was telling you the worst the worst time to buy was right then, and I I was buying it then. The old coin season index also is the same thing. It's on coin market cap. At that point, it's from zero to a 100. All coin season index back then was at, like like, a three or four because Bitcoin Bitcoin was holding up the markets, man. And you buy it then. Right? And now... Just now, you know, the number is looking very, very well. Allcoin index at 56 is, barely above average, and fair fair and good index at six seven, which is a good thing, man, because it just means we could go a lot higher, man. You know? Because you are looking at these numbers and not really too bullish, not too bearish, but the numbers are looking pretty healthy, man. You know what mean? So for me, I'm like, I'm not necessarily selling anything, really. I'm not really excited either because whenever you see all coin season index at 90 or 100, you're selling everything. Right now, we're still at 56. It's nothing nothing's just too too great... Crazy right now. Coinbase app, that's another one I use to tell me where the market is. Coinbase app right now, I'm sure it's not it's not too too great, but... Because that app... How that's played is the Coinbase app is, you know, of course, you know, it tells you what what the American retail is doing. Because... So if that app is number one, if that app is number one in The US, it just means it just means, you know, you know, it it just means you have retail buying this stuff. Right? So that's kinda what I use as indicators help me... That tells me which part of cycle we're in. So I'm... Right now, I love the market. It's cool. Portfolio is going on slowly. No problem. I'm just... I don't get excited on... Until until a big money bags starts being excited. Stop being public. Because as of right now, we... All the bullishness, CNBC, I I look at this very... It's so simple. Just little signs are there. The number one, probably one one of the biggest financial news networks, they spent basically thirty seconds to one minute talking about the crypto markets, and they moved on. And that's how I know that, yo, we're not even anywhere near where where we need to be. So there's a quick little rundown there.
[0:29:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: My favorite part of that was this. That's the kid signal like, kids. Guys.
[0:29:23] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Yeah. Was...
[0:29:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: I've been doing that for the past week. I mean, I'm I'm in I'm
[0:29:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: in the living room, man. I'm trying... I I don't know how many, you know, host my... You talk. I'm trying to go to the office, but I I have to get some juice real quick, man. They they can't... They just they just wanna fight and argue. It's all good. I love my kids, though.
[0:29:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: I've been doing that with my niece and nephews. I'm like, eat it, Nick. Yo. I'm on a livestream, and they're like, I'm making avocado toast. And I'm like, make me some avocado toast. Okay. Fine. Empress go for it, then I wanna see what's up to Coma and get there.
[0:29:55] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Good. Because I heard a bunch of yap news, so Coma can pull us in on that. But I just wanna say men. Jesus of god. Do you guys hear how these guys talk about trading? They're they're they're emotional as fuck. They get excited. They get scared. They got fear. They got greed. They got whatever. I don't understand. I don't I don't get the way they move. I don't get the fear and greed in there. I don't I don't get the emotional roller coaster that is trading for men. I feel like that sucks. It's very cyclical. They talk about cycles more than, you know, women, period, or anyone trying to get knocked up. I don't really get it. I don't believe in this cycle nonsense. I keep saying I don't believe in this cycle nonsense. And it got me thinking, some of you came in during the the trench disaster, and that's all you know how to do. If you are trading your altcoins like your meme coins, you need to reevaluate your life. If you think that the tops of some of these altcoins are when they spike up a little bit and you're dumping your bags, I I know this should be obvious, but given how some of you came into this this culture and this ecosystem, I just... I really wanna put that out there. Some of us aren't on this emotional roller coaster because some of us know that we are holding this for a while. Some of us made more money in the bear than we have in the bull, and some of us are going to hold through these, quote, unquote, cycles, bloody or not, in general. So we'll let Landy tell me how cycles are real, and I'll still mock him because I pick good assets that don't require cycle management or temperature taking. Well
[0:31:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes, Landy.
[0:31:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Please. Wanted to chime in here because these... As men, we do wanna track the cycles because we wanna make sure that we are impregnating our portfolio at the right time to bear fruit at the end. So if we we have to keep bearing...
[0:31:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not when mercury is in Gatorade.
[0:31:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not when mercury is in Gatorade.
[0:31:54] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Bitch, my mercury is always in Gatorade. Anyway
[0:31:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's all I had to contribute was, you know, we... Men are very interested in the cycles. We gotta protect our bags, and we gotta make sure that our progeny succeeds.
[0:32:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Last thing we want is like, hey. We got a derivative. It's nine months away. Like, oh, fuck. Oh. Goddamn. I thought this was it. You're diluting
[0:32:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: me now.
[0:32:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: Don't... Make sure you don't get liquidated. Okay? Yeah.
[0:32:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did you did
[0:32:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: you
[0:32:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: hear
[0:32:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: about the...
[0:32:25] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Pop up is usually your goal, honestly.
[0:32:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Some of us, okay, are not a show. You make us out to me. We're real people behind
[0:32:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: this video.... Like four or five side chains. It's okay.
[0:32:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm not really a flying caca squirrel, okay, next to an all things crypto satellite that's supposed to be flinging me as a squirrel into the stratosphere being like, this is the signal. Buy caca coin.
[0:32:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's not... I'm a real person....
[0:32:50] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Got hella cocked on fate in the each chain. So, you know, whatever, you're kink.
[0:32:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Listen. I support a lot of networks. I have no choice.
[0:33:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have no choice. I have to do it, Coma. What is good, bro? What's up?
[0:33:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: No, man. Nothing nothing crazy or nothing new. I'm just just been farming Katana. I I don't know. I feel like I'm, like, taking crazy pills just telling people that the yields are really good right now. So I'm sorry. I can't contribute to this feeling of liquidation and feelings and what other stuff was she talking about? Trading...
[0:33:27] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Talking about coma app
[0:33:27] Kkoma @itskkoma: and meeting other coins so they can make derivative coins like... And first you... I I was calling you until you were talking about
[0:33:34] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But Colma, I heard crash out in the outburst. Don't you have crash out info from the outburst? I heard that in his face.
[0:33:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nothing more than feelings.
[0:33:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: I think I I assume that Col already talked about it, but no. I mean, you know No. No. Cool is doing this. You have to KYC. You know? I think that's the that's the that's the t l d r. Right? And... Sorry, Dave. Are you clapping? Or are
[0:33:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: you No. That... Right? That's a good snap. If you think I was clapping, that's a good snap. That's me imitating Cool.
[0:34:03] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Come on. I heard something about a Launchpad or some other thing. I... It wasn't the KYC thing. Did I hear wrong?
[0:34:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. That that the Launchpad is related to KYC. I think it's basically trying to get creators to very favorable rounds or valuations. But I I don't know how it works with actual k... With calls behind the scenes, but I... But, you know, when you invest in something, you kinda have to identify yourself and say who you are. Right? So I I think there's some aspect of KYC that's gonna be involved if you wanna get into this, like, capital launch pad. You know, crime is legal in some regards based on... You still have to show who you are if you wanna get involved in, like, the big boy table, I guess. So I still think the Yaps and, like, you know, the leaderboard rewards and stuff is still gonna be there, but the capital launchpad is probably gonna be interesting to say the least. I'm just waiting to see... Hear more about it and... Yeah. And then they're also changing how the leaderboard is gonna work because apparently a lot of AI slop and a bunch of, like like, how do you differentiate between actually good content slash versus, like, grind? Because a bunch of, it's all about signal, essentially. It's like, are are any of your posts actually meaningful? Like, are you an actual user of the app, or are you just, like, just just pumping out AI content nonstop. Right? And that... That's not good either. So there's a lot of changes coming through Kaido that hopefully should be a net positive. So a lot of smaller creators are going to complain naturally just because they're gonna say it's not fair, blah blah blah blah. And I I think there's some, you know, sympathy for that as well, but I've seen some other critters that say, like, you know, Kaido isn't a, like... Is it... It isn't a charity. Right? So at the end of the day, gotta make good content. So I'm I'm, like, mixed feelings about it because I think there are some smaller creators that can definitely, break in, but they just... I I feel like a lot of... Majority of smaller creators are very entitled.
[0:36:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Coma is different. The 1,000 app... 1,000 yap Coma is different now, bro. Well, yeah. It's like, listen,
[0:36:18] Kkoma @itskkoma: you little creators. By the way, I have a thousand yaps.
[0:36:20] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Well, this was the... I I just wanna split it out there. The big crash out space that I went into were the top yappers. The the the leaderboards number one and two yappers who were not happy about this change.
[0:36:36] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Well, let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. One of the top yappers responded to... Or replied to one of my posts, and it did not make any sense because I was I was complaining about something, and he said congratulations. And then I said, are you a bot? And then he didn't respond, so I blocked him. And then he had about a 100,000 followers, and then he messaged me on his side account saying that, hey. I'm not a bot. It was one of my interns replying. And I was like, well, either way, it still ended up in the same result because I'm... If you're if you're not gonna be yourself on this account Wait. Wait. How can I
[0:37:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: Kaito PSP, you are probably gonna start getting getting the rewards or I think revenue share or something like that, I think?
[0:37:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Wait. You guys... Oh, wait. Put put it on the jumbotron.
[0:37:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's it's... All
[0:37:37] Kkoma @itskkoma: I heard were stickers, telegrams stickers.
[0:37:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No. No. No. Instead of docs, man. It's something about, you know, rocking the the the cup of bears, man. That's your VFP. You're gonna, you know, probably... I saw... I I have it. I I I can impose it. Let me... Give me a sec.
[0:37:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Publish said, take search didn't happen. Wait. Are you doing it cool? Are you are you are you are you officially I
[0:37:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: don't know yet. For was me first, man. Because I'm like, I do have the NFC, like, if you, you know, send it out doing anything. If I'm gonna, you know, qualify for stuff, I get rewards. I have... I don't have a choice, man. I have to do it. So
[0:38:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: You think... Is this is Coma's little fucking... Is this, like, middle of the road bullshit gonna count with this fucking Yeah.
[0:38:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: I don't think so.
[0:38:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: I don't think so.
[0:38:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. That mini copy bar on the shoulder ain't gonna cut it, Coma.
[0:38:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: You know what you know what it is, man? Like, it's so hard to use ChatGPT's, like, image thing with this freaking Capybara. It's, like, so much easier to make images with my main PFP. That's why I changed it. But you know what? I I might I might follow suit. You know? Cool. Like, never stop clicking. So I might be able to... I might change my profile tomorrow. We'll see.
[0:38:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I like it. Let me say what's up to Kanter real quick. Kanter, what's up? And then I know the brain box came up. Let me say what's up. What's good?
[0:38:54] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Hey. I'm just enjoying my day. It's beautiful out here in New York right now. I'm New York too. Right, Dave? I... You know, what what Connoe was talking about on the KYC and how these kind of systems come in. I don't wanna say I told you so, but I did speak about this subject on this space. I think maybe it was, like, a month or two ago. It's... The core problem is that, actually, if you distill it down to its basics, we're heading to a self creating Internet. Right? That's that's exactly what's going on. We're no longer communicating on our social media through our own thoughts and desires and ideas. Instead, we're utilizing AI in every facet of our lives to communicate for us. That's apparent in our work. It's apparent in social media. It's apparent how we even... I'm sure there's there's folks who they go to text message their spouse and they go to chat GPT, and they're like, okay. How do I put this? It's... We are going into an era of a self forming Internet. And all of these systems that reward you for engagement, for content, etcetera, they cannot work in this era, and there is no way at the end of it to actually prevent it. It is a constant cat and mouse game that actually Google has been dealing with for decades and enter all m... Antitrust lawsuits that they're dealing with today where they have awarded you essentially for getting backlinks variety and contact by showing up higher in Google search results. Right? That is the Google model. The problem with that is every single time that they do it, it can be gained. There is no way that you cannot gain the system as long as you figure out how the algorithm works internally. So as systems like Kiteo iterate and kinda, like, look and develop, they would constantly have to change the algorithm almost every single time because somebody would quickly figure out how they need to adjust in order to do the thing. Like, KYC is not a protection mechanism whatsoever because most people can KYC. And if anything, it's actually just blocking the folks who you do want to engage with your system ultimately who don't have access to KYC and and and kinda wanna do this. This doesn't actually fix the core problem. The core problem is that the value proposition doesn't make sense for where a society is heading as a whole with AI, and it'll continue to make less and less sense as we continue in advance AI infrastructure. You could say, okay. Maybe you can make a frontier model that can detect if the content creating gaps is legitimate or not. Okay. I can just adjust my model and get an even b tier one that's smarter than updating your model. It's just constant, constant, constant. Cannot break it.
[0:41:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good points. Good stuff, Kento. Yeah. Komo, you wanna chime in?
[0:42:00] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I just wanna... I I think there's gonna be some aspect of Kaito where you don't have to KYC, and then there's some aspects where you do. Right? It it, like, it's a multiproduct project. Right? It's not just gaps. It's not just lead boards. It's... They're they're extending it out to different ventures, I guess. So I I feel like this capital launch pad is really geared towards creators that, you know, wanna have skin in the game, and maybe they'll get, you know, boosts or better rewards or better ROI. But, you know, like, you might have to identify yourself to say to say the least. Right? So... And then I think one thing they also did say was there might be some type of minimum requirement for just general Kaido ecosystem where you you kinda need, like, a a minimum number of the apps or minimum minimum number of smart followers just to get rid of all the AI and the bots. I don't think that is going to be a very high mark, but it should just still exist just to, like... Yeah. There's just too many bots right now that are just, like, acting and trying to steal the apps. Yeah.
[0:43:13] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: The the problem is you cannot prevent it. There's no possible feasible way that you can prevent it, and it's only gonna get worse. I don't... I mean, I
[0:43:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: can argue that it's very hard to get smart followers, and even real creators are having a hard time getting, like, yaps and smart followers. So I feel like that's a good mechanism, but maybe you disagree.
[0:43:34] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Howard, like, huge disagree. I think Howard, would... Sorry. Yeah. I... I'd say it's very, very likely that where we're heading as AI per plates and the models get better and better is that you will not be able to tell the difference between a legitimate account on x and somebody that is using AI.
[0:43:54] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I I guess I'm... I guess this is like an intermediary solution for now. But... Yeah. I mean, as AI evolves, I feel like the guardrails need to evolve too. Right? Like, just saying that it won't... They won't be able to solve for this. It's kinda like a doom and gloom situation where essentially, you're just saying we should just do nothing, maybe. But I I say you just adapt and learn based on, you know, the current eco, and then you have to figure it out after that. Right?
[0:44:20] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Well, what I'm what I'm saying is is keep in mind that this is a temporary situation, and this economic model that they've created cannot sustain itself because of where we're direct... We're going with technology as a whole. We are catapulting into AGI faster than you can you can say a sentence. You know, there are advancements happening every single week with how these models are developing. That is very likely... And I I made a joke tweet, like, last week, I think, that soon we'll be running secure enclave smartphones with our own personal LMs that are trained on our data that can work and do and just complete tasks autonomously for us. I was only half joking because I actually think that's where we're gonna come. And I don't I don't give them more than, like, two to three years.
[0:45:13] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I I think Homa's point, though, the one thing that is valid, you can't, given the parameters of what is a smart follower, that's not something that can be duplicated. Like, that can be created via AI. So that that qualification is one way to to circumvent that issue. Right, Koma?
[0:45:35] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. That that was my point exactly. And, I mean, sure, maybe these AI accounts will be just as, if not better than real accounts for... To attract smart followers, but smart followers are just it's... I I think they could definitely differentiate at least at this moment in time. So, like, I... To me, this is a good intermediary solution. I'm sure they're gonna have to adjust again. Right? Like like any other company that has to pivot. So that was just my own, like, rebuttal to what Kanter was saying.
[0:46:07] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Yeah. What is what is preventing me today from operating a hoard of accounts that eventually get classified as smart callers?
[0:46:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Every smart follower classification is different too, comma, like, from this... From the cookie platform to Kaito to Wallchain, every... Like, I have no clear definition on what I have tons of smart followers, like, you know, on Cookie, but on... What's it called? On Kaito, I have, like, 355 or something, but on fucking Cookie, I have, like, 912 or some shit like that. Like, what... Where are the sources? And I think this tweet scout thing, by the way, plays heavy into a lot of these. I've been doing a little digging into this. Tweet scout is a really... Is is, like, one of the things that's powering a lot of this behind the scenes shit, that genuinely nobody hears about. So, yeah, but I think great great points all around. Cantor, I'll I'll have you know this. I'm gonna pin up a video to the top. You know I'm the AI junkie, and I showed it to the boys, earlier on the stream. I bought this device earlier today called the... It's, an Omi device. Right? The website is called omi.me. And you guys should definitely watch this video because, it's essentially an AI clone that essentially records every single... It's like a necklace, right, a wearable that I wear around my neck, and that'd be some common, that I wear around my neck, and it records everything that I do, and it's attached to my... To an LLM and then attached to my phone. Bro, this is a guy that reached out to me over the weekend. He's cyber at the IDF. And I know that it is 100% true because I helped them launch three prior projects with Cortex AI, Suna, and you guys know that I was huge on softgen. Right? So at the end of the day, like, this shit is real, and it's fucking here, bro. So, Kanter, you are not far off. It's really gonna be interesting to see how this whole shit evolves because it is going to be insane. It really is gonna be. But... Yeah. No. I love the... Yeah. Coma, go for it.
[0:48:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I mean, again, I think, kinda like Cantor was saying is is a fair analysis, and I'm not saying it's not wrong. I'm just saying that right now, at the moment, like, to to fight against the current situation. That's that's all I'm saying. Like, what... And, again, they're gonna have to adapt one way or the other when situations like Cantor is describing. And maybe maybe it is a situation where, you know, it it... It's just like it's going to zero. Who knows? But, again, like, I'd like to believe that there is always a solution to a problem one way or another, and that... That's just the only thing I was just pretty much saying. Yeah.
[0:48:42] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Yeah. And my answer point is that, like, that this is not to, like, shit on it or the idea that they get foundationally a good idea. And I think two two to three years ago, it would be... You'd have a lot more runway to kinda, like, execute on this. And this goes for any product and any application. With... Within the agentic era, things are changing so so quickly that you can sneeze, and the entire chessboard has has changed underneath your feet. And, like, my larger point too is my fear is that a lot of people will get attached to models like these, and they will stake their bike around these kinds of models when the reality is that, you know, the chessboard can think to make your feet and how things are moving right now. And just be prepared for that and and make a good plan around it.
[0:49:34] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I'll just say one more thing is, like, I think most people get confused with Kaido and share the leaderboards and the the rewards are great. But, like, if you're not playing the long term game of just growing your account and becoming an actual, like, you know, someone with... Of influence in this in this space, then you're really just playing it wrong. And I think a lot of smaller creators get into that trap of just chasing leaderboards and not actually trying to actually grow their... Grow their account and actually have an influence. So, yeah, I do agree with that perspective. Sorry, Empress.
[0:50:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on. Let me just... Oh, yeah. Go ahead, Empress. Sorry.
[0:50:10] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. You're fine. Go ahead. Do you
[0:50:11] Vibes @BeVibesNFT: wanna say hi to
[0:50:12] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Meta Beast first, and then I'll go...
[0:50:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real real quick. Before Meta Beast... I know Brainbox has been up here. Brainbox, I don't know if you wanted to say something. I know you came up before I threw Meta Beast the invite, but anything you wanted to add, Brainbox? If not, I just wanna say what's up to Meta Beast.
[0:50:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good chat, Brainbox. Meta Beast, what's good?
[0:50:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Greetings. Hope everyone is well. Semantics out of the way. Question. Where do smart ass followers fall?
[0:50:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Smart ass follower. Smart ass followers? I actually don't know where smart ass followers fall, but I definitely... If, you know, if I follow you, I'm definitely one of your smart ass followers. That's for damn show, and so are you, dumbass. Love you, Metabeast. I miss you. Empress, go for it.
[0:50:53] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. I just... I I wanna point out because I I still feel like everybody kinda glossed over what Kung was saying. Even what you're saying, Dave. It doesn't matter if it's Cookie dot Fun. It doesn't matter if it's Kaido. If you go and look at the smart followers, those are authentic accounts. None of those smart followers are fabricated accounts. Whatever criteria that they're doing that makes it, whether the bar is higher because of seniority or because of follower count, whatever that criteria is that moves, those are not faked accounts. You can go look at at who qualifies and who is following you, and you'll realize those are OGs in the space, generally speaking. So I think that any idea of how that happens, it it would be very hard to suddenly pivot that criteria exponentially and and circumvent that aspect of the process. Now how that rolls out to be the only criteria, I'm not sure. But at the end of the day, the smart follower thing seems to be the only thing that across the platforms isn't compromised.
[0:51:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It does it tell you how you rate yourself as whether you're a smart follower or not?
[0:52:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. There is no guidance. No. Excuse me. It doesn't. It genuinely doesn't. Like, I... It just gives you a moniker, like, emerging CT, like, or smart... Like, and it just tells you who they are, and then it shows you, like, what they are like. So I I mean, do you guys know? Is there a formula for smart followers, comma, cool? Like, do you guys know, Samara?
[0:52:24] Samara @thee_samara: No. No. There there isn't any exact formula. And, again, like, as with the concept of the smart followers, there are people who are termed smart followers that if you go through their page menu, there's nothing smart about that. So I don't... We don't actually know the metric used to quantify
[0:52:43] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I didn't say they had base takes. I said that they were OGs. I didn't say the pitch... Is not say they had base takes. I also didn't say they didn't rug half the space at one time during their existence here, but the metric is still the same.
[0:53:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We lost Samar. He probably got a phone call in the interim, but let let me get him back up here real quick. They didn't broadcast the space. Sorry, Samar. I think we lost you halfway through the halfway through the point. You're like, you look at the accounts, and there ain't nothing smart about them. Pick it up from there.
[0:53:19] Samara @thee_samara: I know. Like, I know. Like, not not all of them, but most of them. I just go to them like, bro. Like, they're like, this follow for follow, deep, like, giveaway stuff. I'm like, bro, what the fuck? Like, people you expect to be smart Bro,
[0:53:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: I I don't... I... Those are fake, dude. We know those are fake. Like, they just they just changed the HTML and say they're a smart follower. Like, if they're in a... If they are literally in some type of community group posting that I'm a smart follower, then, like, 90%, I'm sure they're, like, they're... Or 99%, I'm sure they're they're not real, dude. They're They're just... Like, why would a smart follower, like, literally beg for engagement and follows? Like, that just doesn't make No.
[0:53:57] Samara @thee_samara: Like, I've just... I've seen some real ones that are just, like, they're actual smart followers, and their page is basically just them not... Probably just only should posting and not really giving any thoughtful insight on the timeline. It's just literally posting. You scroll down, try and look for something you... Like, unique or something, but there's nothing, man. So I don't know. There's... The whole concept of smart followers, I don't know the metric that you're using actually quantifying them, but, really, for some accounts, it doesn't make sense. I won't let you go.
[0:54:24] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Does anyone know? Does a blue check make a difference or not?
[0:54:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course. No. What? You... Bro, if you're not verified, they're gonna verify you as a smart follower. Give me a fucking break. If you're not verified, you need to be verified at the bare minimum. I I mean, that's my assumption. I don't know that it's fact, but that would be... It would really boggle my mind if you were not verified and you were considered a smart follower. Am I crazy, guys?
[0:54:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's kinda where I... My thought process went as well, but I don't think
[0:54:54] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: it should... I'd have to... I'm not gonna let... I would have to look because, I mean, I know for a fact when I'm looking at across, like, they're obviously smart followers across platforms. Right? And I know some of these are o g KOLs that have not been incredibly active in this space for quite a while. So I'd have to go look and see if they even have gotten the blue check on them, but they they they would be considered smart followers in that instance.
[0:55:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: Imagine, like, buy... You could buy a whole, like, island, but not not buy a blue check mark. Just to...
[0:55:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, but that's one thing. It might
[0:55:29] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: be down to activity. Like like, let me give you one. Morgan. I don't know if she has a blue check or not, and I haven't seen that chicken forever.
[0:55:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Morgan, like, my grandmother's sick Morgan? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I love that story. That was one of my favorites from 2021 CT. It was like, my grandma's sick. Look at her on this scooter. She has cancer. And it's like everybody raised, like, 30 or 40 each for her, and it was like, they tracked her wallet. She went and bought a fucking mutant ape. Of all these things
[0:55:57] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: brings me back to criteria criteria versus content, not necessarily the same.
[0:56:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm not sure surprised Empress hasn't, like, brought up NFT season or something. Like, NFTs are back or... Or maybe maybe Landy will say higher lows or lower lows for NFTs too. I don't know. Are we in a full NFT season?
[0:56:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Comma, 60 five CryptoPunks yesterday, 8,500,000. It might have been 69. We don't know. The bid was out there for a $60.91. We don't know. But come on. You can't deny that. That's literally another institution saying Visa did this. They bought one.
[0:56:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: Money laundering, bro. Money laundering.
[0:56:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Bro, okay.
[0:56:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: Can I turn it out?
[0:56:39] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: On SocialFi and then calls the NFT flippers money launderers.
[0:56:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's wild work. Who buy who buy
[0:56:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: 60 something punks, man? It's like, that's a million perk. Come on, man. Come on, man.
[0:56:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: Share an alpha about this really quick?
[0:56:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:56:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: Have you... Do you follow this account called Node FND? No. Okay. Follow that account. Apparently, they own the punks. Like, they they they, like, acquired the intellectual property of the CrimptoPunks from Yugolabs. Oh. And they just released a video one hour ago, and it'll... And there's, like, a coordinates on the top left with, like, their... 2228 blah blah blah, like, whatever, thirty seven point four. And, apparently, that is the location of Ribbit Capital, the the one that I talked about, Timur.
[0:57:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, no. You're right now, Cole.
[0:57:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I swear to god. And then and then Nick... Mickey Malka owns and is on the board of Node. So I I don't know. I'm just saying, like, there's just too many coincidence that's just happened
[0:57:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: right now.
[0:57:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, my
[0:57:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: my fucking quant just tells me all this shit. I'm just like, dude, what the fuck is going on?
[0:57:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where is Rivet right now? Where is Rivet right this second? Right now? I need to know.
[0:57:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm just saying, dude, this... There's the rap me so much. The Rivet hole goes deeper and and, like, it's insane.
[0:58:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, but this was... Bro, they posted they posted that May 13 is their pinned tweet. The Infinite Node Foundation is pleased to announce the acquisition of the intellectual property of No.
[0:58:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. Watch the video. The video. Yeah. They just posted an hour ago that there's a coordinates literally to ridicule.
[0:58:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, that is... I didn't even know that this was a thing. I didn't know that they... That that CryptoPunks was sold to Node Foundation or whatever the hell this thing is.
[0:58:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Know. Mickey is on the board of Node.
[0:58:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Oh my god, bro. Wait. Who are they following? The one follower? CryptoPunks. Oh, shit. That... That's not the SciOps SciOps. Goddamn, coma. Now you're gonna make me go by fucking ribbit capital, bro. I need this money, man.
[0:58:44] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Sorry. I just wanna say you know you've made it when you get to say my quant. I get to say that.
[0:58:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I told you. Listen.
[0:58:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: Listen. I I only have one quant, and I'm never sharing him or his identity.
[0:58:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: My quant. You see that? You're right. Yo. Empress, great fucking call out. Like, yo. I told you. 1,000 is different. Landing shoot.
[0:59:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: I can't believe that you're gonna leave out that somebody went through the Ordnos ecosystem and swept fucking hard. Hard. I don't know who that dude was. Couldn't have been me, but somebody was sweeping like a madman.
[0:59:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: And my on chain monkey. Thanks, Landy.
[0:59:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Appreciate it, bro. Thank you so much for letting me get rid of my fucking dog.
[0:59:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'll I'll see you I'll I'll see you when you're buying back at way higher prices. But, also, I am not money laundering. I am trading. This is a trade. That is why they just, you know, happen to go up a 135% in two days. Are you trading against yourself? Just just just for clarity. There's actually......
[0:59:50] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Tax harvesting.
[0:59:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So... They changed our That's when they went down, we were tax loss harvesting, which I apparently won't be able to do anymore.
[0:59:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wash sell. Real wash sell.
[1:00:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. This is... You gotta come over to the laundromat. NFTs and ordinals. Come on over. No. Coma, there's actually... When I see volume starting to pop into NFTs, it almost always goes into ordinals. So when I saw NFTs going wild late last week, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna get in on this. And I went and I swept a whole lot of Ordinals collections because that's what I've been doing throughout the bearish period over there anyway. And what do you know? Some of them are up over 300%. So that is a beautiful thing, and I think that we're gonna start seeing, everybody want their, their their PFP Rolexes here pretty soon. Also, watch the Rolex index, please.
[1:00:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not... Listen. I'm not trying to shit on your parade, but I just need to make this clarification. Okay? Because this is something that has long bothered me in the fucking NFT game. Up 300% just means a floor price. This is not crypto. These are not fungible tokens. That just means that somebody wants to sell their fucking NFT at that price. That's not a buy order. Okay? So a floor pry... No. No. I know you know. I'm genius. I'm speaking every day in existence here. Like, at the end of the day, people need to understand floor price is literally vaporware. It means fuck all. It literally means absolutely nothing. It means somebody went out like the puppet and swept. And now, hopefully, the next schmuck is gonna come in and say, oh my god. Look at this floor price for these Bitcoin ordinals. And then who's gonna be selling? I'm not saying it's the puppet. Maybe somebody else, but that's somebody selling. It's not somebody buying the same way you heard Empress talk about these fucking... The first things on hyperliquid, $85,000. Yeah. Where's the bid? I was actually surprised. 45,000. Okay? So floor price, not the same as bid, and it's a bid. It's not an offer. It's a bid. Somebody that is buy... Offering to buy your your p... Your NFT. Okay? They're bidding. Sorry. I said offering for fuck's sake. It even gets me. They're bidding. They want to buy it. That's what you need. Floor price means nothing. And when people start and platforms start trying to make NFT marketplaces like trade, like cryptocurrency and fungible tokens, that's when you get nonsense like Blur and all these other bullshit marketplaces that people are gonna lose their fucking shirts on because everyone's out there farming points, points, points, points, points for airdrops. No no shade to the airdrop farmers. I'm just saying. I'm just pointing that out. Empress, goldfish. It out. Clear... Yeah. Cooking it out. Yeah.
[1:02:41] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I would just like to say several hyper liquid NFTs have gone for 70 k. There's an entire chart. It's actually happening.
[1:02:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Doing? How you guys doing? Just
[1:02:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm know
[1:02:52] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: what I'm excited to throw that out there.
[1:02:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: It also, like, just say are
[1:02:54] Kkoma @itskkoma: actually buying, like Dave was asking.
[1:02:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. They're actually...
[1:02:59] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: They are. Did you
[1:03:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: did you know that I sold some CryptoPunks the other day? I don't know if you heard that.
[1:03:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: You bet. Shut up.
[1:03:04] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You Shut up. You You would like to say we started at 39 k. We've gone to $40,506,069.70 days. Sales.
[1:03:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are there sales
[1:03:14] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: at all? These are
[1:03:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: sales. Are sales.
[1:03:17] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: The testing to That this
[1:03:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: is fair. That... I will never... Hey. If it's sales on chain, god fucking promise.
[1:03:24] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: On chain through a marketplace, bids over the counter. This has been going on because they wanna know what is gonna get them access to, especially because HyperLiquid buy... Does so many token buybacks. So they Sure. We... I mean, we actually watched people become millionaires with the first airdrop. People
[1:03:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: God bless.
[1:03:43] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: People could have opted to get this NFT when they collected their first thing, and many people did not. So they are lamenting that, and these guys are playing in this field, and they are dedicated. I'm in there looking and watching dedicated telegram channels where the wheeling and dealing is going on.
[1:04:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: So
[1:04:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: that's crazy. I wanted to point out that you could do like Landy during NFT season, see everything move, sweep, and get ready to capitalize, or start early, free mint, and flip that shit because I flipped, like, nine already for profit motherfuckers, and they were free to get. I just wanna say that. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:04:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Hey. I was
[1:04:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: sweeping all towards the bearish in the empty market. The last sweep... And I'm gonna be serious about this for just a moment. I did a pretty big sweep of a little collection you might have heard of that got an airdrop that is over... Up over 566% in the last ninety days.
[1:04:42] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You say punching penguins, I'm gonna punch you in the face.
[1:04:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm... You you can punch me in the
[1:04:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: face as much as you want, but I swept before they went to a 100 fucking thousand dollars. I'm doing okay. So I've been playing this game for a little while, and one of the things that you have to do is the first peak of volume that you see come in, go and look at those wallets. What are they holding? Where are they moving? I know somebody that actually does a lot of this, and and then they're gone. But it's... What... Get that You
[1:05:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: guys you guys remember what's it called? Yeah. Where is she? You guys remember, the whole thing that got debunked for, what was the NFT collect... The Nike collection? Oh my god. Why am I not... Why am I forgetting the name? Where they literally debunked where it was, like, one person has No. Put All fucking...
[1:05:30] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: See what happens when you threaten Landy with violence? You get rugged.
[1:05:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I will never do it again.
[1:05:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's the black man out front, Emperor. Sorry.
[1:05:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Don't get don't get fucking bet... Bag tagged in fucking black van. Like, that's the last thing you want. Samar, go for it.
[1:05:46] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. I just wanna touch up on the NFT thing. Like, I I I had this argument with someone on on this... On a space, like, last week where we talked about the whole floor price stuff. All that, bro, like, a floor price being at 2 eath doesn't mean that NFT isn't worth 2 eve. Like, the team can literally just mince a bunch of them and then boost the floor price. Like, that's how it is. Just... They literally just have to just put in how much you wanna list a token for. It just enter... It just becomes automatic, becomes a floor price. And then people just format their stuff and buy it, and then they just, like, sell on them and just dump on their ass. Like...
[1:06:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey, Samara. Samara, hold hold on one second because I can also do the same thing with the token. I can keep reselling, then I could go and sweep
[1:06:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: not a token with real money.
[1:06:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Invest the token, and then use that money to sweep again and invest
[1:06:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Mute them.
[1:06:33] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: To my
[1:06:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: market now to billions
[1:06:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: of fucking dollars. No.
[1:06:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I've got a 100 fucking liquidity in the pool.
[1:06:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe in your own liquidity pool, you could do that. But, like, if we're talking real markets, hell no. Samara... Let Samara finish that point. You're a crazy puppet right now. No. No. Don't get
[1:06:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: out of my mantra.
[1:06:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is crazy puppet. Crazy puppet. Samara, go for it. Finish that up. Finish that point up. Please, because that's preach.
[1:06:57] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. And and also people have to, like, realize that, bro, for... Enough for you to get, like... To actually, like, trade NFTs properly, it depends on the chain. It's only depends on the the the mid... The collection you actually trade it. And now... And and the amount of hype on that particular collection at that that period of time. Because in my humblest opinion, bro, you you wanna trade NFTs when the hype is around it. You don't just buy and hold for, like, the future before you sell it. Bro, you trade the way you trade like memes. I know I know Empress hates the the meme con traders. Sorry. But still, you have to, like, trade NFTs the way you trade meme con sometimes. Sometimes. Not... Or not every time. But you have to also understand that floor price is just that of floor price. Someone just treated it as that. It's not actually trading at anything. You could literally be the team. They have they they have, like, literally 60% of the supply on different wallets, and they listed it as a particular price. And then you go and mint at that particular price, and then they pocket the difference, and it just ship. So that's it. It just depends on on the chain and the hype around the chain. Some ordinals, yes, they go crazy. True. But some... And it's... They're basically a scam. I don't like you guys. We're still here, man. But, yeah, I'm sure the hyper liquid lady has some ideas. So shout out to you.
[1:08:06] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Motherfucker said they basically a scam. Oh, let's clear a couple things up. Bro, I am a trencher. I do not hate meme coins. I just am a transparent trencher. I'm a come up into every space. I'm a tell every motherfucker I trade better than you when I'm taking your money because that makes me feel better about when I go to bed at night, and Landy will attest to that. That's literally what I do. I'm about that life. 100%. I I I started here with $300 fiat. How do you think I made that quick liquidity into flipping into all the other shit that I've gotten? That is flat out a lot of it, thanks to the soul trenches. Because... Why? Meme coin communities, god love you, I hold a very few... I call them solidarity bags because I think it's great that they ride or die together and they raid and show up. But there's a fucking joke, and here's why. You can't kick it in a community when the entire aspect requires you to sell your entire participation in that community. It ain't the same as an NFT. You absolutely have to sell to make your bag, and then what? You're like, hey. I'm still fucking in the happy coin, but, I got no happy. I'm unhappy now, but I'm in the happy community rolling out. So that's number one. Number two is way more volatile. It just is. I I miss NFT trading frequently because of it. It... It's a whole thing. That said, I also like the fact that, you know what? You get fucked on an NFT. At least you got some art. I would never tell somebody to go mint some ugly ass NFT because at least you got some art if you get wrecked on it. I don't buy NFTs ever thinking I'm in a max profit, not at any given point. And there are NFTs that are, quote, unquote, blue chips. There's no blue chip meme coins, by the way. The people that are like, this is my blue chip meme. They can suck me sideways. It's just not a thing. But there are actual NFTs that have actual prove... Jesus Christ. Actual proven value in this space that you can buy during the bear, that you can buy on the dips, that go up and they go down. Landy made the point about pudgy penguins. Your MF or bug would have gone up and down significantly because they also go up and down with the altcoins. It's just the reality of it for some of them. You can get rugged. You can get wrecked. But the other thing is a lot of NFTs are free mints. So you end up not having to ape in. You end up having the art, and you end up flipping it. The rule is if you can, get three so you can hold one, stay a part of the community if you do like that hype and you wanna stick around. You can flip one immediately to recoup your losses, and then you can ride one to Valhalla if it's gonna go all the way up and flip it without even having to worry about it. That is why I like the NFTs.
[1:11:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: And and on the real... Like, when you see something like a Pudgy Penguins that before... There was... The signal was there when you see these, like, multimillion dollar wallets started to sweep the... Just test sweeping the floor. I was like, okay. There's something there. So I don't go in and just buy it. I buy art because there's art that I like and artists that I support, and I will never sell those. But when I see an opportunity where I see other whales going in and starting to buy and set that low and accumulate, I'm right there with them. And that doesn't mean that it's gonna be a success because they can wash trade that shit all the hell, it's just them on volume. And what they're doing is hoping to, in many cases, catch a bid from new people coming in and getting excited about it. And that's where you have to be very careful. You have to understand the market. You have to understand the chain and who would some of those wallets are and what teams are. And it's not just like, hey. You know what? I'm gonna go into ordinals, and I like the look of this collection. Because you might buy it. If you like the look of it, I hope you're you're willing to hold it for the next three years because it might not move, might not even see volume. It might be a dead project. Like, you never know....
[1:12:14] Kkoma @itskkoma: Was Bitcoin. Keep going.
[1:12:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: And the same thing on Ethereum. You might buy a project on Ethereum, and you're like, look at this cool art piece, and then you go back three months later and realize that they didn't pay their bill, and now your art is missing, and you just have text code in your wallet.
[1:12:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: So you have to be See, very
[1:12:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: oh god. The Clonex shit. Yeah. So you do just have to be very, very careful. We're not there yet. NFT season is not here. It's barely hitting... Barely even getting to the point where we can start to declare things an alt season that still remains to be seen. It's fun with the pump and enjoy it. I bet you we see some nice rotation into some horrible memes that will go away tomorrow, but that's gonna be... You know, that's kinda par for the course. Just stay safe out there and do your research. That's it. Just do the bare minimum of research, and you should do much better than those who are just yellowing that shit out there because 99% of people are just yellowing.
[1:13:14] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I wanna add one more quick thing.
[1:13:15] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Wait. Wait.
[1:13:16] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Empress. You don't get airdrops with meme coins, bros. You get... Oftentimes, you find the right NFT community, you're getting airdrops of some kind.
[1:13:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: Personally, I have...
[1:13:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Buy my NFT.
[1:13:28] Kkoma @itskkoma: I I I moved that... I moved the three hype tokens or whatever and then did what you told me to. I I have seen nothing since since that post. Am I gonna make it?
[1:13:40] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I I don't know what you're saying.
[1:13:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You're not gonna make it.
[1:13:43] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I I say... I tell you... I tell people to do shit all the time. They rarely listen to me or...
[1:13:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, we bridged it fucking two weeks ago, Coma. Chill the fuck out. You gotta let shit cook for a little bit, bro. It's been sitting in a wallet. We don't know what's gonna happen.
[1:13:54] Kkoma @itskkoma: Okay. It's Wheeling cracking.
[1:13:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, it's Here I am. Know what that
[1:13:58] Kkoma @itskkoma: and stuff, but... Yeah. Okay. Never mind.
[1:14:00] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Wait. You took three hikes and put it in loop? Is that what you're talking about?
[1:14:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. We relayed... We do use the real... We use the relay bridge Empress, to essentially put it in a... Just in a in a... Essentially put it on chain. We moved it using the relay bridge that you told us to and keep it in
[1:14:16] Samara @thee_samara: the wallet.
[1:14:16] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You you literally bridged to hype?
[1:14:20] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yes. Correct.
[1:14:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Using real... Because you told you told... Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You told...
[1:14:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. And then I said put it in one... I put it... I said put it in loop protocol. But at the same time, also, I don't know if y'all have been paying attention.
[1:14:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I missed that part too. She definitely didn't say that.
[1:14:33] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But I...
[1:14:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sure
[1:14:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: she totally said that. I did. Thank you, Lindy.... The pinned tweet.
[1:14:37] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But also, guys, I don't know if you're paying attention even if you only did the bare minimum of of bridging over. If you were paying attention, hype over that weekend hit all time highs, like, six times.
[1:14:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: So you could've just walked...
[1:14:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: I feel like she's pulling a landy right now where it's like, we saw this coming. This is gonna happen.
[1:14:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Comma. Comma. Comma. You essentially took your information from me probably, and then you take it from me. I always got a second hand from Empress, and I probably left half the details because I do believe in the pinned tweet. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, wait. So I bridged it over. No.
[1:15:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: Like, what? Her pinned tweets... Or, like, it was a reply. She said, make sure you have a certain amount and then you follow this account or something, and then I did...
[1:15:20] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Oh,
[1:15:20] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: yeah. The loop type. That loop Yes. The hype.
[1:15:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. So you can loop your hype.
[1:15:26] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Speaking of loop, by the
[1:15:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: way, Landy and Coma, time to kick your fucking asses. Guess what tomorrow on the Hermetica Hangout is gonna be talking about? We have the adviser.btc. You know what we're gonna be talking about? AEUSDC and USDH. Loopity loopity loop loop loops. Okay? Fruity, fruity loops. That's what we're gonna be talking about. I don't wanna hear this. It's a Bitcoin. Fuck out of here. Every DeFi protocol is doing the same bullshit. Oh, and don't don't you start throwing words at me like, rehypothecation. Don't get fancy on me right now.
[1:15:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't need to rehypothecate my loop when I'm
[1:15:58] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: earning 21%. Are you constipating about rehypothecating?
[1:16:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. You relax. Alright. SATs, take it easy over there. I... K. I'm gonna get Andy
[1:16:08] Kkoma @itskkoma: by Dave, you are still gonna talk about pump, right, some... Sometime soon?
[1:16:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh. Sunny d had something about loops.
[1:16:14] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, yeah. Loops.
[1:16:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Before we get to the pump and dump, Sunny d
[1:16:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Makes me so happy. Can you
[1:16:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: regale us of stories of loops?
[1:16:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It makes me so happy seeing so much green and pump just in the red every day. Yeah. Sorry. Sunny d, go.
[1:16:28] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Well, I was gonna be hopping on the NFT conversation, but you guys
[1:16:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: already freaking hit it. Oh. No. Please. Please. Please.
[1:16:36] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Okay. Well, I think NFTs are cooler than meme coins, but I also like meme coins. And if you take a moment and look at my beautiful PFP, these are in fact in game skins. It is... This is gonna be alpha for all you people that are not on Tron yet. The Tron Bull club is the blue chip on Tron. They already have a game, PVP, top score. They're about to roll out lobbies where you can team up with your friends, and each NFT is a three d in game skin. So you have your own player to do PVP against other people. You can play it now. You can even test it. You don't even have to get anything. You can go test out the game first at score milk.
[1:17:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's that's the
[1:17:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I just opened my fridge. Hold on a second. Score. We've got some purple stuff, some Oh, some sparkling ice one. Oh, Score milk. Score. Yeah.
[1:17:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: But
[1:17:43] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Oh
[1:17:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: my god. There's something new commercial work.
[1:17:44] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yeah. I'm telling you, like, if there's gonna be an NFT collection to pop off on Tron, it's going to be the Tron Bull Club because the game is sick. It's fun to play. I don't know if anybody... I've done, like, video records. It's in my feed, but it's it's cool. They're cute. They got, rocket boosters, and you can, like, boost around. They're gonna have power ups. It's... And, like I said, they're gonna have a lobby system where you can team up with your friends and, PVP against your team, and there's gonna be sick tournaments. And on the Scoermilk platform, you can wager against other people. It's a pretty neat little thing that's like a hidden gem on Tron. So if y'all are paying attention, you're looking for an NFT that actually has real utility. So on top of all of these attributes, there's 15,000 of these Tron bulls. They... Not only do they have physical attributes, they have, like, in game stat after... Attributes as well. So real NFT project, real utility, fun game. It's a good time.
[1:18:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I'm gonna take this moment right now. I know we have ten minutes left. I'm gonna take five of these minutes so that y'all can hear. I'm uploading right now the full Sun Pump Spaces podcast recap, but we're gonna do the same thing for ATC and everything else. You guys are gonna get access to every single space that I'm running and obviously... And I'm gonna start bringing on different creators. So if Kool wants to do it and drive value to the ATC creators for some of his spaces, we're gonna allow him to do it. Landy, Empress, any... Coma, Samara, any spaces that you guys think is gonna be valuable for the ATC crew, you send me over the link for the space, and I literally run it through the automation. But before the automation gets it, it's gonna be done in about two weeks. Real quick, Landy. I... Let me... Can I just play this real quick? Or you... Like, you want me
[1:19:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: to gonna say late night with Landy's will be up on landy.all3.com.
[1:19:34] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: Just
[1:19:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: wait for the
[1:19:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: recap Bro.
[1:19:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: That one, baby.
[1:19:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm the... So you can listen to this recap. So this is the recap from a couple weeks ago that I did for the Sun Pump space, and I have one for the ATC spaces also. I just can't find it at the moment, but this one was perfect. We did it on the livestream today, and I want you guys literally... Like, whatever you're doing right now, just take... Just just literally give me five minutes of your undivided attention right now. So stop whatever the fuck it is you're doing and just listen to this because this was... The Sun Pump space that we run weekly, me, Sunny d, Trav, and a bunch of others obviously on the Sun Pump account for Justin Sun. And listen to this recap, and then you guys are gonna see the full upload, that's coming also. And it's probably gonna take a minute because it's about five minutes, but I just want you all to listen to what a five minute recap Wait. Of 60.
[1:20:20] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I know you're gonna kill me, but I need to make sure, comma, doesn't loop that hype. Comma, check the ATC group chat.
[1:20:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Yeah. Loop hype. Loop hype.
[1:20:29] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. Don't loop. Don't loop. I realized what he was talking about.
[1:20:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, don't loop. Wait. What? I'm so confused now, but we'll come back to it. Okay. Listen up.
[1:20:38] Voice M: Welcome back to the digital frontier. Today, we're unpacking a story that feels like it's a straight out of a financial thriller.
[1:20:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Mhmm.
[1:20:45] Voice M: It involves a defunct toy company, a crypto titan, and a clever maneuver that's been dubbed the backdoor to Wall Street.
[1:20:54] Voice J: It's a fantastic story, Alex. We're talking about the Tron ecosystem and its founder, Justin Sun, making a historic play.
[1:21:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right.
[1:21:03] Voice J: A play that has landed a full fledged DeFi powerhouse on the Nasdaq stock exchange. I mean, for anyone wondering if crypto would ever truly emerge with traditional finance
[1:21:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[1:21:14] Voice J: This is a massive step.
[1:21:16] Voice M: So let's set the stage because this wasn't a typical IPO with, you know, Wall Street bankers and a roadshow. How did they pull this off?
[1:21:26] Voice J: They used a strategy called a reverse merger. So in simple terms, they found a company, SRM, that was already publicly listed on Nasdaq but wasn't really doing anything, the shell of an old toy company. Tron then merged its new entity, Tron Inc, into that public shell. The result? Instant access to the stock market.
[1:21:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wow.
[1:21:51] Voice J: And it bypasses the, you
[1:21:53] Voice M: know, the years of red tape an IPO would normally require. A clever shortcut. But the real story isn't just how they did it, but what they built. Right.
[1:22:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: What makes Tron Inc. So different from any other company on
[1:22:09] Voice J: the Nasdaq? It's what's on the balance sheet. Instead of just cash and assets Mhmm. Tron Inc. Is backed by a massive treasury of TRX, Tron's native cryptocurrency. We're talking about 365,000,000 TRX tokens. This isn't an ETF or some complicated derivative. It's the actual on chain asset now held by a US compliant, publicly traded company. It's a direct bridge from the
[1:22:38] Voice M: world of decentralized finance to the heart of traditional finance. A direct bridge. I love that framing. But the most ingenious part of this whole strategy is what many are calling the financial flywheel. Oh, yeah. The TRX isn't just sitting there collecting dust, is it?
[1:22:55] Voice J: Not at all. And this is where it gets truly fascinating. Think of the flywheel like this. Tron Inc. Takes that huge stash of TRX and puts it to work within its own ecosystem.
[1:23:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm.
[1:23:09] Voice J: It's staked in DeFi protocols like JustLend, where it earns real yield from the core network functions, like users paying for transaction energy. So the public company itself is earning DeFi yield? Exactly.
[1:23:23] Voice M: That's something that was, you know, previously only accessible to crypto native users.
[1:23:27] Voice J: Precisely. And that kicks off the flywheel. Step one, the company earns yield. Step two, that income can be returned to shareholders or more powerfully, be used to buy even more TRX from the market. Step three, all of this activity on Tron from staking to meme coins on jump pump, it increases demand and burns TRX.
[1:23:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right.
[1:23:51] Voice J: And that can push the price up. Step four, a more valuable TRX means a stronger balance sheet for the public company. Wow. It creates this beautiful self reinforcing loop where ecosystem growth directly fuels the publicly traded stock.
[1:24:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: It
[1:24:07] Voice M: sounds incredibly sustainable. Yeah. The more people use Tron, the more valuable the entire system, including the Wall Street entity, becomes. This feels like
[1:24:18] Voice J: it's setting a precedent for the entire industry. It's a blueprint, and the ripples are already spreading. Other major players are reportedly exploring similar moves. Really? This is forcing a massive educational shift. Traditional analysts who live by earnings per share are now having to learn about on chain metrics, total value locked, daily active wallets, token burn rates. As one speaker in the discussion put it Mhmm. Quote, we will make the rule. They should follow our metrics.
[1:24:49] Voice M: And that shift extends to the investor mindset as well.
[1:24:52] Voice J: Yes. And that's perhaps the most profound part of this. The speakers, many of whom have been building in the Tron ecosystem for years, described it as a plan not to Shut up, Trav. Rich, but to stay rich. The ecosystem provides all the tools, lending, staking, yield farming to make your capital work for you and compound over time. It's about building sustainable generational wealth. So when you zoom out, you
[1:25:21] Voice M: see this isn't just a clever financial maneuver. Not at all. It's Tron positioning itself as a fundamental layer for a future where digital and traditional assets are inseparable, especially with the tokenization of real world assets on the horizon. It's a bold declaration for the future of finance. Exactly. It's a
[1:25:41] Voice J: move that says the innovation isn't happening on Wall Street anymore.
[1:25:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm.
[1:25:45] Voice J: It's happening on chain. Wake up. And now, Wall Street has a front row seat.
[1:25:51] Voice M: Now, here's a question we'd like you to think about. As the lines between decentralized and traditional finance continue to blur, will the core principles of Wall Street change to adapt to crypto, or will crypto have to conform to the old rules of finance?
[1:26:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Come the fuck on. Come on. That was a seventy minute space. Like, literally brought down to five minutes and thirty seconds, and wait until you guys see the actual graphic of it, HTML graphic that I am... I'm putting in the comments, and I think it's still uploading. Okay. Oh, wait. Is it done? Let me see. Yeah. It's done. Look at this fuck. Look how fucking beautiful this is. I just pinned it to the nest as well. Like, look how beautiful this is. Everything put together. And Sunny d, Trav, shout out to you guys for obviously this specific one. Absolutely fucking incredible job. Like, absolutely just... I mean, if that wasn't as simple as it gets to describe how a reverse merger happens and the blueprint that Justin Sun laid out for all of Wall Street and what they now have to follow between how the flywheel works, how much is going into the treasury, and, like... And the graphic is gonna show you this also. This is the content that you're gonna be getting from ATC and the atc. Domains that you guys have. Every single space is going to go up. It was go... It is going to be fully automated. So the only thing you're gonna have to do is go to the website. It's gonna ask you to connect the wallet that has the actual NFT in it. Right? So if you have empress.allthingscrypto.e, you go to the website. Once the website... Once you connect your wallet, you'll see your thing come up. It scans it for the actual subdomain, and you get access to everything that we put up there. And we're doing this for free. I'm literally paying everybody's fees, everybody's gas fees. I don't care. Like, you you guys are loyal listeners here. This crew up here is absolute killer... Is absolute killers, and this is essentially, like, what the future is gonna be. Sponsors are not gonna know what the fuck hit them. Everything's gonna be on chain. Forget the check-in, check out stuff because when you connect to the actual website, that's an on chain transaction. We actually see who's connecting to the site. We get to see everything. So, guys, this is what I'm talking about. Check it out down below or rather up top. I pinned it up to the nest as well. And anybody that does not have their all things crypto.eat that wants one, get into my DMs, put it in the comments, and give me an eat address. And if you don't give me an eat address and I have one minted, I'm sending it to your banker wallet. That simple.
[1:28:34] Sunny D @dylN0chill: This is like super awesome because a lot of times and look at how often we stick around in spaces, we talk about subjects for hours and look how quick... Look look how short that explanation boiled down to. And that is what we need to deliver to our friends and family and everybody who isn't just as an insane psychotic obsessed crypto nerd, this is the information, the distilled information, the core information, and this is what is getting delivered. Like, I can send this to my father and he'll be like, oh, that makes perfect sense rather than me talking about little cute bulls and Justin's son going to the moon and just preparing what's happening.
[1:29:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Amazing. Sandeep, thank you. Let me go to Trav and then Medivist, I'll come right over to you. Trav, what's good?
[1:29:25] Trav @trav_4211: Yo. That was fire. Man, y'all better put some respect on this shit. I'm trying to tell you. I am in the shower right now, so I'm out.
[1:29:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. He said... He came up in tummy time. That's crazy work. Good shit, Tra... And, Traf, thank you, man. Like, if I didn't tell you before, like, don't if you heard me, but, genuinely, thank you because it is you, Sunny d, me, and a select few others that really shaped those conversations on those Thursdays. The same way that this crew here, that empress cool, Landy, Samara, coma, you, Sunny d, Metabeast, Justice, and everybody else that contributes here does it here for ATC, and we're gonna bring this to the masses. And this is how we fucking scale. So thank you.
[1:30:03] Trav @trav_4211: Hell yeah, bro. You're killing it, man. I, you know, I love it. I love it.
[1:30:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Get your ass back in the shower and get off get off the stage. Get out of here. You crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:30:13] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Extra shout out to Sunny for actually mentioning the all things crypto and the recap that people can get for that in his space earlier, which I was able to catch, which I don't normally. So you can take this all for whatever it's probably not worth, but I remember, like, less than 1% of my dreams. Last night, I had the weirdest one all revolving around Tron and something similar in respect to the things you can do with Okay Computers and Banker Bot. And one of them... One of it was all... I I wish I could tell you more clearly what I saw, but it was the craziest stuff. And one of them had to do with minting names, which Sunny then proceeded to also mention was something you can do with Tron now too. So for whatever that's worth. It's just weirdly weird
[1:31:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bring it to life. Bring it to banker on Tron. I like it, meta beast.
[1:31:24] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: So... But it... I had had... Everything was done through Telegram, which was another weird thing because I am not a fan of Telegram. So I really don't know, but just saying.
[1:31:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe that's why we dream about it. Yo. Shout out to my guy, Jake. Jake, I see you down there. Jake, I got yours. I got Adam's, and I got... Even got an agent hustle dot all things crypto dot east, bro. So hit me up and let me know where these things wanna go, and shout out to you guys. You... Yo, Jake, I need to hear what's up with this my... With this migrate.fund madness, bro. Because Adam came in, he gave us the teaser, and then he left, like, literally was like, you think you're gonna get late tonight? Nope. And then just walk the fuck out, bro.
[1:32:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Have you seen the videos that that they've been putting up?
[1:32:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, I didn't even know it was his until yesterday morning. I'm like, wait a minute. He was talking about this. It's actually them that built this shit, bro.
[1:32:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. This is, like, killer shit. You you didn't migrate? What? He's telling me you migrated.
[1:32:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. What do you mean? Oh, no. No. My token. Yeah. The hustle. No. No. No. No. The the hustle token. Yeah. I'm talking about the platform itself, like, putting us on, like, how does this work?
[1:32:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's that's what he was talking about. And then he started a bunch of videos where they were showing it off before it was going... Before the migrate ended and how much and then why and how much liquidity and, like, putting out the the numbers based on, like, what you have when you're launching on pump fund versus migrating over and having your own liquidity and bulking your treasuries up. No, dude. It's been... I'm learning by going over it. Like like, I've been following them and watching the livestreams when I can because, obviously, I hold the token. But, like, that... What they built is super valuable for the ecosystem because there's... I think about it, like, even on stacks, like Stack City, you've got you've got guys who have locked up liquidity that can't move it over. Nobody's benefiting from it. You can't even burn it off. It just stuck. So, like, I wish we had something in the stacks ecosystem for that. Like, you know, like, the same kind of deal. Because, like, I would love to take control of the liquidity pools on a few things over there so that that we could actually get them out of the gutter.
[1:33:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big facts. These fuckers are building the most revolutionary tech, and yet, like, they're quiet about it. And I see Adam tweeting about base having one... Like, a million dollars in liquidity or some crazy stuff. Jake, we're gonna ring him up. Jake, we are gonna
[1:33:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: ring him up. Guys? What's
[1:33:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What's good about, bro?
[1:33:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah, man, dude. It's, you know, it's actually kinda interesting is that sometimes your most successful product is just, like, this internal tool that you build, and turns out, like, everybody needs it. And so, you know, we did do that successful hustle migration. We're gonna do a cohort of somewhere between, like, five and seven migrations next month with some pretty big teams, actually. And it just turns out a lot of people are in the similar situation is that, you know, if you launched on PumpFund, or in some situations, people lock their liquidity pool, and you realize later that you don't have any access to the rewards. Right? So a lot of these long term teams like ourselves who launched on pump fund for our AI project agent hustle at the end of the year, if we weren't thinking about, you know, the long term implications of launching on pump fund, you get that kind of short term, you know, spur of users and price volatility. But long term, man, launching on pump, it's really detrimental to long term builders. You, like... First, you don't have access to liquidity pools, you can't claim rewards. You can't remove any of that capital. You can't change the metadata, so you can never change your brand. And most teams actually have no token treasury as well. Right? So, like, for our... In our example, when we launched on when we launched on PumpFund, we only bought 5% of the token supply because it was kind of like an experiment, and then it all took off. Right? So, yeah, we launched this, and it turns out a lot of teams are really interested in this. So we're gonna have this, like, kind of cohort of five to seven teams next month, and we actually have two very large, partners that we're working on this with. We'll announce that next month. Two of the teams we're working with are top 10 in the industry and revenue right now, in twenty four hour revenue. So, we think it can actually be a new narrative, which is, like, migrations. You could also kinda consider it like a vampire attack on liquidity as well depending on, I guess, your intention behind it. But, you know, if you want me to explain, I can, but I'll let you get... I'll let you respond first.
[1:35:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm gonna I'm gonna let that tease out. Let let... Let's tease that out, and I would love to do, like, a full space on this, man, because I feel like this is... Like... So now is it... Okay. Actually, no. I do have some questions. There's no way I can hold these questions on this side. Yeah. Is it just Solana, like, or is it other changes? You heard, obviously, Landy mentioned stacks, which will probably be at the end the line, but, like, what about base?
[1:36:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. You know, that's a good question. We're starting on Solana. And I also pin migrate front to the top, anyone wants to look through the thread. So we're starting on Solana. We can make this cross chain capable. Our devs have told us this. It's actually not too difficult to do. So we have actually had some teams reach out from virtuals and Clanker ecosystems because they have the similar method where you lock the LP, so it kinda traps a lot of people in certain situations that isn't relevant to their program. And so if this ends up being, like, very successful and starts, a whole new trend, then, yeah, we're gonna expand this. Probably, we would start with base and then go to other chains Because, you know, I think our team, Emblem Vault, has been around since 2014. Our own company has gone through, like, five different migrations ourselves from different tokens from different ecosystems. So we have pretty fundamental understanding of, like, kind of the nuances. But in short, you know, I'll kind of explain what it is because it's not your typical migration. It's related more specifically to tokens who have a locked LP. And so, right, what I said is, like, the the main things that are the issues when you have a locked LP. You don't have access to the rewards. The metadata is immutable. And, generally, you would have a limited token treasury. So this is really detrimental to long term builders. So what we built is this mechanism where, a creator will come in in on migrate.fund. And, again, this isn't live to the public yet, but I'm just talking next month or in two months when it's public. You'll come to the platform. You'll basically put in your old contract address. So, you know, we'll do, you know, all things crypto, old token, or whatever that was launched on pump fund. This is just an example. You put that contract in, and I'll use just easy numbers here. You'll look at the the liquidity pool. That's the most important part here. The market cap's really irrelevant. It's what's locked in the liquidity pool. So if we see that this old token, FallThings Crypto, is at a $10,000,000 market cap, and there's 1,000,000 in liquidity, that means that there's $500,000 in SOL in that liquidity pool. So what a creator will do is they'll come in, and they'll create a new contract. So we'll we'll do all things crypto new token. You'll set the the name, the ticker, and the the image. And you'll hit create, and then you'll set a time limit. And for this example, we'll say that the migration period's thirty days. So after the migration is set, then the creators will come in or or the community will then commit their tokens to migrate. And so after thirty days, let's say that 60, 70, or 80% of the token supply is committed to this migration, that 80% of the old token... So if you have 80% of the token supply and you sell that all in one giant candle, it'll go negative 92%. And then that means you're able to essentially recover 92% of the Solana in that liquidity pool. So if the if the liquidity was a million and you're getting 90% of $500,000, right, you're getting $450,000 in SOL. We then take that SOL and pair it with the appropriate amount of the new token, and then it's set into a new liquidity pool. And then all of the unclaimed tokens... So for this example, if 80% of the token was migrated, there's still 20% left over. 5% of that probably goes to liquidity pool. So then that 15% of the unclaimed token goes to the creator team to kinda do as they wish. We do have a kinda built in, snapshot and airdrop tool for people who want to, I guess, airdrop the tokens to people who didn't participate. Some teams are moving it to their treasury, so there's kind of just a wide variety. And then after that, the the liquidity pools traded. The users get their tokens, and you have a fresh chart. You have a fresh... You know, and a fresh start where the creator of the new token now has access to the liquidity pool. So, essentially, you unlock $500,000 in liquidity from Solana. You now have 15% of the token treasury and your... Or token supply and your treasury, and you have the ability to change the metadata of the token if you want. And so this is kind of what we're saying. It's so important with migrate. It just gets a lot of... Or a fresh start. And so this first cohort... I'll kinda end here unless Adam has anything. This first cohort of people that are coming through is, like, three AI companies. There is a few meme coins, and then there's a few infrastructure projects. And so like I said, it all comes from different varieties. People have done presales, people who have gone through pump fund, people who are just given bad advice on how to set up their liquidity pool. And we suspect that once this goes viral next month, especially with our partners on this as well, not just the teams, but the infrastructure partners, that this could start a new trend and help people really have a fresh start.
[1:41:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jake, as in partner... And, Adam, you stay right there. Don't you go anywhere, you motherfucker. I had no idea when you were fucking talking about this the other day. You... That this is your part. You son of a bitch. Jake, when you... When you're talking about this, right, when you say partners, I'm assuming, like, we're talking about Radium. Yeah? Like, I mean... Because, like, at the end of the day, like, the decks has to be the one. If that's where the LP is, is this a play, like, against pump fun, like, just on the Solana side? Like, why wasn't the same... Like like, I guess, I love the fact that you guys are doing this, but how was this not done before?
[1:41:40] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. So so it is public information that we are working with Radium on this directly. There is another partner involved in this as well.
[1:41:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's gotta be Bunk. It's gotta be Bunk.
[1:41:49] Bread @_ToastMalone: I I won't name it yet because we're still kind of working through some of the co marketing efforts and some of the kinda technical implementations. But, yeah, you know, this can be considered a vampire attack on on PumpFun or or Mediaora.
[1:42:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Support the fuck out of you, Jake. I... On off you, I will support the shit out of this, bro. Anything that buries PumpFun in the ground, I am down for. I am so down, bro. I... You have my unwarranted full fledged, full army support.
[1:42:18] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Let's
[1:42:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: go. Bro, no joke. Let's fucking go.
[1:42:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Speaking of down
[1:42:24] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's gonna be exciting.
[1:42:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Speaking of down, you have all those pump fund... Pump... Pre TGE holders that are down now. Oops. Who could have seen that?
[1:42:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. Carole, your $100,000 doesn't look so sexy now, doesn't it? Adam,
[1:42:40] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: speak. Yeah. I I I just posted a a thing I made the other day because, you know, I mean, pump obviously feels like, holy cow. We actually... Oh, maybe we now need to actually reward some creators. So they started this creator reward, like, CTO program, bro. And some guys were posting like, look. I just got paid, bro. And I made a made a video about it because I was literally, like, laughing. Like, holy shit. This bro is putting in more... And he got paid, like, $900. I was like, bro, this guy's literally... He's like a full time job for this guy, and he just got $900... I mean, great. $900? But, bro, he could've had, like, bro, like, a $500,000. And, I mean, like, CTO projects too, and, certainly, we know a bunch who are interested in in... One who's already confirmed where they were... They're a legit project, and they have no tokens. Like, they were kind of tricked, I wanna say, into, like, oh, we made a token for your project, and they got airdropped some tokens and basically got screwed into, like, owning none of the tokens. And I think a big thing about this migration is, for for that type of project is they're gonna get some ownership of the token supply again. You know? With us, you know, we were able to to basically get back, like, I don't know, 23, 24% of the token supply. And a lot of these, it's gonna be a lot more. I think when that happens and CTOs realize, holy cow, we've just taken off the market, you know, an additional 20 or 30%. These these these tokens can rip again. Like, they can move again. So teams are psyched about that as well. You know, just a a different token dynamic going forward. I mean, you... You're... You'd be stunned how many projects are out there with, you know, $1,020,000,000 dollar, liquidity pools where that liquidity pool is so thick that it... They could get no price action. They're just basically stuck at a market cap. And they're excited to have the price run again and have excitement in the coin again. So go ahead.
[1:44:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love this. All of it.
[1:44:44] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Sorry. I was I was saying empress. Empress raised her hand. I was I
[1:44:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: was Oh.
[1:44:47] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I was... I thought empress would have taken my cue. Right? Oh, I didn't I didn't
[1:44:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: see empress. Hey. See that? That's me... That's a good host, and that's... She's like, uh-uh. I'm gonna wait to date. But you know what? I feel kinda like a big deal right now, and first thing, holy cow. Now she can tell me to go fuck myself or whatever. And first, go for it.
[1:45:02] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Blow me. I did part two of what I hear when I hear, and I posted it up top if anybody's interested. Those are my base takes of the day. Thanks.
[1:45:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can we go back to the suck me sideways comment? Anyways, Adam, what we need to talk about right now, seriously, is what are you posting about base, bro? What is this madness that base has no liquidity?
[1:45:23] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Bro, I didn't talk to him. Was just something that caught my caught my fucking eye. You know? Because I am a big I am a big Gary Vee fan from, god, I I don't know, a decade ago or whatever. He
[1:45:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: he he
[1:45:34] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: did inspire me to
[1:45:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: start podcasting.
[1:45:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You coming up here touting this Gary Vee's in my group chat on base ads?
[1:45:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No.
[1:45:41] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: No. Not at all. I have no idea....
[1:45:43] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: This one more time. The
[1:45:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: fuck. You blow me too.
[1:45:46] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: No. My my my take on it was... But I saw I saw, you know... Obviously, they pay him. He he speaks at their big event. Him and Brian are shaking hands. Whatever. Dude, I
[1:45:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: mean, I'm...
[1:45:57] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I mean, he's in your
[1:45:58] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: group chat because he's in their group chat.
[1:46:00] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I see what's happening over there. Right? But then I but then I see, well, they they basically hoodwinked Gary into launching a MemeCoin because, you know, if you if you do it a certain way on the base app and you, like, make your stuff, you know, content coins
[1:46:16] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: or whatever. Know because you haven't sent me the early access code yet.
[1:46:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Exactly. You're talking Zoro. Right? Adam, you're talking Yeah.
[1:46:22] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: So it's connected in with Zoro and all that bullshit. And I I realized it's super clunky. People have let me know it's super clunky. It's a... For whatever. So the... But I... For whatever. This is Gary's first one. Right? And I was like... I I just looked at it because I was like, oh, I wonder what it is. I I mean, it's probably 1,000,000. I was guessing it maybe 1,000,000, 2,000,000. What is it? What's it pumped to? What it's ran to? Did it ran to, like, a $120 and then came back to, like, a $100? I was like, no. What what the fuck? And then I started doing, like, some investigation, and I'm like, dude, this is crazy. There's, like, there's actually no appetite for it. And what I've learned is, you know, talking to people on spaces and stuff more is, like, no. It's just, the infrastructure isn't built yet. There's not really a great place to buy them. There's, like, no discoverability. You can't... You know? So it is what it is. It's it's kinda based
[1:47:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: just under Zora shit, though. Yeah. That's Zora shit, though.
[1:47:08] Samara @thee_samara: Right? Yeah.
[1:47:09] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Listen. You know I'm about my MFers. I love my MFers. Fuck base memes. Fuck whatever memes are launched on the Vanker bot. Fuck whatever memes are launched on Zora. Fuck whatever memes, and this is actually a Mulady launch pad on Flaunch. Fuck based memes. I'll buy DRB because it's for the culture. I'll hold my banker coin, my actual banker coin, but fuck based me.
[1:47:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You saw Viper out of the corner of your MF and I.
[1:47:41] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: You saw Viper coming out
[1:47:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: the telling me that Gary Vee and his Vee friends got grifted into launching a coin that doesn't have any place with liquidity? Are you kidding? Payback Vee. But look
[1:47:54] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: at I I I this D
[1:47:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: funds version three? What is this coin? I... I'm confused.
[1:47:59] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I just wanna prove I'm not with buy... Viper and double down and say I have a small bag of DRB. I'm down with my banker coin, but I really ain't that into DRB either, FYI, because fucking I'm late. But, anyways, side note.
[1:48:10] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I mean, I mean, it's it's one of these things where it's... It is just interesting. Like, even most successful coins launched on banker. I think we... What was it Jake? Did a thing on it. It's like, there's, like, two over a million or was it even one? There was one.
[1:48:24] Bread @_ToastMalone: Was just the the Grokkwon was the only one. It was, like, 80,000 tokens launched through banker bot, and only one was over 1,000,000.
[1:48:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Viper, what say you? Yeah. That's not true.
[1:48:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit. That's it.
[1:48:39] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: Just, like, just not true.
[1:48:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a...
[1:48:42] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: Yeah. My wallet has fucking more than that, bud.
[1:48:44] Bread @_ToastMalone: I I was just looking
[1:48:45] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: at the password.
[1:48:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's from the dude.
[1:48:47] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: No. Just on the... The only thing I'd push back on, and I don't even, like, love this Zora thing either, but is Gary didn't launch a meme coin. Right? And that's kinda how the tweet's written, which is just not true. He put the post up, which is however you wanna be able to explain that. Like, that's a different thing. Adam. You know what I mean?
[1:49:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dude, shit.
[1:49:05] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: In my eyes. So...
[1:49:07] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Oh, sorry. It's a it's a...
[1:49:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't play with pizza. He doesn't know what you wanna do. Coin. That's
[1:49:12] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: this that's this don't even know what...
[1:49:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm not going
[1:49:14] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: with the narrative of whatever it's called, but, like, it's just, like, I don't know. And I don't even think fucking most things that are called meme coins are meme coins either. I I mean, I
[1:49:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, they're just too big of a wash. I think
[1:49:25] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: I think you're pulling hairs there, man. I mean, the the... Whether it's a meme... I consider it a meme coin because it's like, dude, I don't get I don't get that that content coin fucking bullshit. I think that's that's Jesse's
[1:49:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: like... But Gary Vee's not launching it. What's... You got... Do have any idea?
[1:49:40] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: All I'm saying is he authorized his app to make an on chain transaction to create a token which has a supply and a bonding curve, and he received 10,000,000 of that 1,000,000,000. I mean, it's the exact same bonding curve and shit as, like, pump fun. And, I mean, it's it's the same thing. It's a different launch mechanism.
[1:50:00] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: I think it is Mint Club. Like, I think it's their Mac in behind it or something along those lines.
[1:50:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But I will say this, Viper, because I have called it out before. The the MFers particularly were were critical of Pump Fun and the antics that came with the Soul Casino. And then all of a sudden, we launched Banker, and we've got Mint, and we've got all these other launch pads, and they are doing the exact same thing as Pumped Up Fun. You have to stipulate to that.
[1:50:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Just so... I mean, look. I can't can't... Zoro pumped 92% the other day. I mean, after that stream, I think was yesterday or the day before. So I... Coma, you know I'm not bullshitting. You know you saw it too. So I don't know. Like, the the... Look. Jesse's a big proponent of this whole Zora shit. I fucking hate it. I think it's literally like the... Like, I'm with you, Adam. I think it is like pump fun in fucking disguise. I don't know. I I guess we'll see, but bro, when I see, like, there's no liquidity on base.
[1:50:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, I just...
[1:50:59] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Stop the gas. Look, I'm saying......
[1:51:00] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: The money and the banker coin. All I'm saying is I'd rather buy the coin and back the banker because I think that that is doing things. I just I just don't like the memes. I just... I absolutely hands on though.
[1:51:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Dave. Holy shit. I just had the best idea ever.
[1:51:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here it comes. This is it....
[1:51:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Do. The recap... The the five minute recap of this space
[1:51:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're gonna tokenize it?
[1:51:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Needs to be tokenized on Zuora. It is content, baby. Content... Because you wanna know what? You wanna know what? Screw Gary V. We're gonna overtake his 100 k content coin market cap. He can't fuck with us. He doesn't have the alpha. You know how many people he dumped on with his stupid fucking NFT collection? I fucking hated it. I hated everything he ever said about NFTs, and I knew the top was in the moment his lips started moving about them. Sorry. So
[1:51:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Let's go fucking.
[1:51:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Gary Vee is a good guy, though, other than that, and I hope that he has a lot of success.
[1:52:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I actually thought that branch was gonna be total nonsense, but I actually like the idea of tokenizing the content. And what I shared up top, I mean, I love it. Look. Hey. On the... Yeah.
[1:52:12] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: Sorry. I'm right on the brink of, like, Wi Fi in my backyard. But...
[1:52:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're good. Go.
[1:52:15] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: So if that CEO video was on coin, like, chain or on coin or content coin or whatever the fucking coin it's called, what happens? So when when that happens, basically, what it does is, like, it... I... What I hear is on base, like, if you're doing these chats and stuff, you can set it to automatically create a coin for basically every post you make. And so Gary had that set to on. You can turn it off. Right? He had it set to on. So when he made that first tweet, like, hey. Happy to be here. Whatever. That became a coin. Right?
[1:52:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. But but I just meant, like,
[1:52:53] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: in culturally, that CEO, like, hugging his HR, like, if we had an opportunity to be on chain with that, I think that that's, like, when this big tipping point happens. It's not my shitty meme or fucking Gary Veeb biting a card or something. You know what I mean? I think that that's when this will kinda move. But I don't even know if it's this cycle.
[1:53:16] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Yeah. I mean, I I just don't see anything here here. I mean, is kinda... To me, it's retreading the...
[1:53:21] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'm gonna push back on it.
[1:53:23] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Alright. I love you pushing back, but it's... To me, it's very much the same as, like, NFT ing tweets, which happened, you know, in 2020 or 2021. And it's like, I understand it, and I understand ownership of those, like, moments kind of thing. But if there's unlimited, it just becomes where are... Where's the value there? And that's where, like, right now... For right now, even the most valuable people putting out that content, which certainly Gary and the first one he ever did, in theory, would hold some value. But the... What it's showing you right now is... No. No. No. These things are... At least right now, our culture is considering these basically worthless.
[1:54:03] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: Well, and to be fair, they do start out at, like, nothing. Like, I I don't think that Yeah.
[1:54:07] Kantorcodes | โ„ol/acc @Kantorcodes: But all
[1:54:07] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: all of are all them of decks doesn't read that. You know what mean? Like...
[1:54:13] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: No. But they do. They all started...
[1:54:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: I agree.
[1:54:15] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: They all... Sure. 100%.
[1:54:18] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Yeah. They start at zero until...
[1:54:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's not
[1:54:19] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: what I see. That's not
[1:54:21] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: what a normal person sees when they go and look
[1:54:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: at it.
[1:54:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think
[1:54:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: it's collectible. No pipes.
[1:54:24] Kkoma @itskkoma: At the end
[1:54:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: of the day, it's... So sorry, Em. Go for it.
[1:54:27] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: K. The collectible aspect is so so missing, and I'll tell you because I went to a bunch of concerts this summer. I have no fucking stubs. Like, I really miss having a physical stub or something. Like, just give me a shitty NFT. Like, I really just want a mem... Like, a bogus pope. Like, I I don't need much, but I do wanna hold something, and I'm missing that.
[1:54:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love how Piper calls it pope.
[1:54:49] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Oh, yeah. Whatever. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
[1:54:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's Canadian. I just love when he says pope instead of poet. Christ.
[1:54:56] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, it's my turn to speak.
[1:54:57] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Right? Boomers. I just wanna boomers. Boomers. I just wanna say... And GaryVee would not be a good litmus test for the creator coins as much as any of us may or may not like it. The market for creator coins, similar to time swap over on Solana, what we're going to see, I believe, is tokenization when it comes to things like subscription and these creators that are on YouTube, that are on TikTok, that are doing things that are... They are going to have a utility purpose as time goes on, and they're pivoting into that. They... Solana has had these creator platforms. And if you go look, there's some people that have tokenized it for time where they get one on one. They provided different services based on the creative coins and the value that is being ascribed to it.
[1:55:48] Kkoma @itskkoma: You you know, though, that situation that that you're Buy my NFT. Like, I I... One thing I don't like about the... These NFTs is, like, yeah, you could create these, like, moments to create those experiences, but then what if someone else buys it? Do they... Like, are these unlimited usages essentially with these NFTs? Like, it would be cool to just essentially create, like, burnable NFTs, and then you just...
[1:56:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're tokenized NFTs. It's the same issue....
[1:56:10] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Talking about two different things.
[1:56:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: But I'm just saying I don't see the utility behind what you described if it's reusable on so many.
[1:56:17] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. It's not. It's a it's a coin. I don't know why we're saying
[1:56:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, sorry. Not NFTs. Sorry. Coin. Coin. Sorry. Yeah. Coin. Sorry.
[1:56:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. No. No. But I'm talking about currency. If it's used as currency for a creator for the service that they are rendering, whether it's a subscription and that's how it's getting paid and they're running up the market cap for that, it's it's similar to if you're... If you have Giga, and Giga supposedly was going to come out with retail that you could buy at, like, shirt... T shirts or whatever, and you can roll that coin into buying actual RWAs. It's a similar idea of goods and services buying from the creator using their creator coin.
[1:56:57] Kkoma @itskkoma: I see. Sorry. Yeah. That makes sense. Yep.
[1:57:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: The whole tokenize the moment thing, I just don't I just don't agree with the marketing. If they were gonna do some Kodak style shit, that's what they should have done, and they should have went all in. Like, if you're gonna capture the moment and you're gonna Kodak that shit, you might as well go full that direction. But the way that it was originally rolled out was, like, tokenize every single one of your tweets. And it's like, no. No one cares. You're just diluting the market. It's the same as if somebody says, I'm gonna launch a coin, and then I'm gonna launch 10 different derivatives. It makes no sense. It's a bad business model. And the fact that they went and latched onto it in that narrative and are now having to try to change it is is where the problem's in line. Because I I view this the same way that Adam does. This is nothing but a token launch platform where they're saying, hey. This is an automated way to to tokenize your content. Right? That's it. And it's... You want more control than that anyway. So if you're gonna do something, if you really wanna inscribe something on chain, you inscribe it on chain. Right? Like, that... This is not... I just don't see a a market for this. I see a market for, hold on, Empress. I see a market for what you explained, but that's not what they're doing.
[1:58:16] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But that... That's the idea behind it. But, also, you're forgetting... A lot of times, we know what the fuck we're talking about. Right? Like, we understand what on chain is and what values or whatever else. And you get normies out there that doesn't. And here's what I am gonna tell you. I think that it is bullshit. I hate the pivot. Anybody who's an OG who used Zora back in the day knows that there was great art on that app, and it was wonderful in that way. And now now it's a total pivot away from what it was. That said, I will remind you full circle of the beating of the space and what happened to a certain thread guy. And so I think that it may be shortsighted on people's behalf to not go and get your own goddamn creator coin even if you hide it from the whole of society and never announce that you've ever made it or whatever else.
[1:59:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: It stays within your mouth. Me think evil thoughts.
[1:59:09] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Everybody's fucking around and find out you could go grab Thread guys right now off Azura for him and create said token. But that's what I'm saying. Sometimes you have to engage in the fuckery to act defensively. So I just wanted to throw that out there as well.
[1:59:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Engage in the fuckery. Okay. Hold on one second. I know Bildo came up and Parsable came up. I just need to make some space also. I need my intern up here too. Bildo, what's good? And then I'll say... Well, actually, let me just see if... Is Parsable a real person? Parsable, you wanna chime in on this convo?
[1:59:39] Voice O: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm a real... Was... I think I'm a real person.
[1:59:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[1:59:43] Voice O: Only only came in partway through. I I... One of my one of my buddies posted the space, and I saw you guys were chatting with the hustle team who I've been... I've been chatting with lately about, you know, fair launches. For anybody don't... Who doesn't know, I I CTO'd a coin back in October, project 89. Been going strong, but, you know, I was given 1%. It was my introduction to the meme coin space and just have a lot of things to say about the concepts of Fair Launch, and token migration and stuff. So glad to be here.
[2:00:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Shout out to the hustle team except when Adam's talking crazy shit on the timeline about based on having the liquidity. You know? Crazy man. I love this team. This team is OG team. Like, yo, if y'all are not following this team, seriously, follow these fucking guys. These are the guys that are gonna give you the no bullshit and now might actually start a new wave of this full on migration stuff. So, I mean, look, you could... Like, this might be too big to not pay attention. So if you're gonna take anything away from this, take number one, obviously, the altxcrypto.eth and the recaps that I shared, that's first and foremost above anything else over anyone else. And then, obviously, go over to the hustle team and check them out too for sure. And then, obviously, everything Empress said so I don't get fucking cooked. Vibes, what's up?
[2:01:01] Vibes @BeVibesNFT: Sorry. I'm laughing. That was a catch. I took jail card and everything empress said so she wouldn't come at you.
[2:01:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Always. I have to. I have to cover my ass. Ladies and gents, the resident... Running
[2:01:13] Vibes @BeVibesNFT: scared, empress. You you won that round.
[2:01:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: You strikes the fear of God in me. If you all know anything, smart woman, you do not fuck around. Vibes, you good? Everything good?
[2:01:28] Vibes @BeVibesNFT: Smiling. Yeah. We're onto a new day. We're due... We're through to Tuesdays. I... Yes. The week is flying by.
[2:01:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it.
[2:01:35] Vibes @BeVibesNFT: How is everyone?
[2:01:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm good. Cool's probably midstream already. It's 07:30. I do gotta close the space. But before I do that, let me just check-in with Bill though real quick. Bill though, what's good, my bro? I know that he had a joke probably from, like, ten minutes ago or a one liner for sure. Bill though, what's up?
[2:01:53] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Yeah. You know me pretty well, but time has definitely passed. We definitely need to chat, so hit me up. I know probably not right after, but hit me up some tonight because I need to chat with you about something.
[2:02:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Love it. Guys, don't forget the... If you wanna think agent bundle, TGE is this week. I mean, that's another team that... You know, pretty solid fucking guys. We've had them on a ton of different livestreams and everything else. So if you own a think agent bundle, TGE is coming up this week. Get your shit together. There's token allocations associated with the NFT that you minted. Yeah. But other than that, yeah, Empress, go for it, then we'll close out.
[2:02:30] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Snapshot was taken. Sorry, Empress.
[2:02:32] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. Go ahead.
[2:02:33] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Snapshot was taken on thing earlier today.
[2:02:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. Yeah. 12PM earlier today. So, hopefully, whoever's holding on, you're good. Empress, go for it, and then we'll close.
[2:02:42] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Just wanna say real quick, Landy threatened me in DMs about my creator token, and I just wanna say I defensively acted weeks ago. So bite me.
[2:02:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry, but I was gonna chime in and say, sorry. I've already tokenized you all, but, the the other thing is is, Dave, I don't know, but, we just received shit.
[2:03:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh, yeah. By the way, shout out to shout out to Rambler, in the comments. Anybody that replies shit via BankerBot on this tweet, Rambler, I I love you, bro. Apparently, Rambler launched shit. So, prove Adam wrong. Let's get shit over a million dollar mark. Dave, you're gonna say, have a
[2:03:23] Kkoma @itskkoma: sound clip of, like, you, like, you know, preaching don't buy this token. Don't buy a pump. It will dump. Like, literally, I'm I'm trying to alley you.
[2:03:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I just said comment. We're not telling people to buy shit. We're telling them to essentially get airdrop shit. It's a different it's it's a different story here. You know what I mean? But, Adam, Jake, appreciate you boys. I'll see you stopping by, guys. Check out the hustle team. Cool. Still probably live for another half hour. Cool. Thank you, Landy, as always, bro. The best puppet in the biz. Empress, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Coma, Viper, thank you for coming up. I love the... You guys know how I feel about the... I agree. I agree. I love this back and forth that we have up here where it's like we're able to literally call each other out on some nonsense, maybe some great shit, and you know exactly what Meta Beast is gonna do. Vibes, thanks for coming through Samara. Appreciate
[2:04:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'll be live in San Diego the next three days. Buy my NFT.
[2:04:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: And buy his NFT. And I think we should probably all just leave it to him being that he's back next because we don't know when we're gonna see him again. Parsable, thanks for coming through. And anybody that does not have their all things crypto.eat, I'll say it again one more time. Look at the pinned tweets at the top. You guys get to see the recap. We're putting those all on the website. Like, it's gonna happen. And we're automating this entire process to where after every single ATC space, it is going to go up on the site, and you need to have an all things crypto dot each subdomain in order to have it. I... I'm looking around. Adam, have yours. Jake, I have yours. Yo, Chris, I have yours. Nifty boy minted yours. Rambler already dished out Yara, who never speaks and is probably the new Shirley Lowe of today. Have yours. Shiv, I have yours. Leroy minted yours. Adonis minted yours. Kev, same thing. Guys, hit me up.
[2:04:57] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Oh my god. Shirley Lowe creator token.
[2:05:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Creator token. Oh my imagine what the floor
[2:05:03] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: Bro, do that now. Yes.
[2:05:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. My god. I'm dead.
[2:05:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somebody do it. I'm Run it up,
[2:05:12] Adam McBride @adamamcbride: bro. Run it. Oh, that would be amazing. Yeah.
[2:05:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, just go do it. Just give me a cup, bro. Like, come on.
[2:05:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: You gotta make me... I gotta run it up and then migrate it, though.
[2:05:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: So hurry up with that information, Adam.
[2:05:26] ๐‡๐„๐๐‘๐˜๐Ÿ‘‘ @Henry_Myke: Incredible clanker. You're good.
[2:05:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's a clanker.
[2:05:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I appreciate you guys, and thanks everybody, obviously, for tuning in. Good shit. And to the boss that bothered this fucking space, go fuck yourself. We'll see y'all later. Peace.
[2:05:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Metabeast, what the fuck?
[2:05:43] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Let's go,
[2:05:44] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: fuck it. I thought Samara did it now. Damn it. I liked it when he did. That was fun.
[2:05:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: Somebody Let's
[2:05:49] Samara @thee_samara: go fucking fucking. Yay.
[2:05:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Peace out, bitches. Now I'm muting everybody. Later. And, Nat Nat, we cannot wait for you to come back. Miss you. Let's go.

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