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Episode ยท Jul 23, 2025

All Things Crypto: A Telegram Native Wallet on $TON?

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The space opened with casual banter, family stories, music opinions, and meme coin commentary, particularly around Pump.fun's continued decline which several speakers were profitably shorting. The main discussion focused on Telegram launching a built-in self-custody wallet for US users, enabling 87 million Americans to send, receive, swap, and access TON-based DeFi directly in the app with features like zero-fee USDT purchases and bank off-ramps. Speakers explored broader market developments including institutional adoption, tokenized funds from Goldman Sachs and BNY Mellon, banks like JPMorgan offering crypto services, the Genius stablecoin bill's impact on yield, security concerns for mass adoption, and controversial NSFW AI content on the Virtuals protocol. The conversation also touched on Hyperliquid strategy raises, treasury companies accumulating meme coins, and the evolving role of banks versus DeFi yield. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.

On the mic
DaveKoolLandyBreadKkomaAlphaGamerSunny D
Chapters
Opening banter and co-host introduction
Family time and summer vibes
Biggie vs Drake music debate with Nate
Pump.fun shorting profits and market commentary
AlphaGamer returns from LA trip and Bay Area contrast
Empress rant on gatekeeping, entitlement, and OGs in crypto
Telegram native self-custody wallet launch for US users
Hyperliquid convertible bond strategy and presale
Ozzy Osbourne Crypto Bats NFT performance
Institutional moves including Goldman Sachs, BNY Mellon tokenized funds, JPMorgan crypto services, and Jim Cramer buying Bitcoin
Virtuals protocol launching NSFW AI content and marketing controversy
Crypto security concerns and mass adoption barriers
Genius stablecoin bill banning native yield on stablecoins
Empress commentary on normalizing NSFW content too early
Tunnel sponsorships, on-chain indicators, and protocol farming
Hyperliquid validator count and project sentiment
Transcript
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# All Things Crypto: A Telegram Native Wallet on $TON? | 2025-07-23 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1BRKjmPWROWxw | status: approved
# Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed.

[0:00:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Woah. Woah. Yeah.
[0:02:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[0:02:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Empress, your guest cohost today. Lady's got early cut out. Let's go. Gotta warm up the ladies seat. Banana. Let's go.
[0:03:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Amp Justice, what's good? Fry Lapis, what up? No credits.
[0:03:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: The stallion's in the building.
[0:03:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like we got return to peace. BZ, what up? Impact, what's good? Shout out, miss Gekko.
[0:03:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: One more gym. This is this is Nate's choice. Come on. You gotta go quick, though, bro. Like, you can't be fucking up the flow. You know what I'm saying? Oh, this is the Nate's choice. Yo, Gex, you would love Nate. You and Millie would love Nate. This boy dies for Drake out here, man.
[0:04:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Vibes, can't see you. What's good, bro? Guys, like, share, retweet the space. We'll get started in a couple minutes.
[0:04:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't mind what sounds like a drive by shooting next door. That's just the guy... There's just construction going on next door. Totally fine. That's a nail gun.
[0:04:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: If y'all aren't spending time with family this summer, like, get your shit together. This this is soul filling right here, man. Let's go.
[0:05:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guru, you better talk today because there's no engagement for me. You had two days this week. That's enough.
[0:05:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. I just saw Nate dancing. Nate, cut the music. I just saw that. Cut the music, bro. No. No. Cut that. That's enough now. Oh my god. Bro, what was that? Were those your dance moves? Like, Please tell me that's not what you're doing with the ladies, bro. Please. Were you just showing
[0:05:43] Voice E: Like, control that.
[0:05:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. This is crazy workout here. Alright. Pause that. Yeah. Go get my ear pods. I don't know where they at. What's up, everybody? No. I put them in the thing. What? Ear. Oh, you want... Guys, let me tell you something. This little nephew... Cool. I need to ask you a question. Okay? We go to... We we go to the Apple store today. I had to buy a new MacBook, buy a new MacBook. On the way back, I said, Nate. Oh. You said, Nate what? How are we gonna have connection lost, bro? This is crazy work. Look at this. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
[0:06:28] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Am I right?
[0:06:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. Dave, man. Dave, I don't know. He's doing something.
[0:06:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why not Coho? Dave knows... Wait. How long was that going on for? Did you... Was that a long time that I was cutting in and out? Is that why y'all was laughing? Where did I lose y'all?
[0:06:48] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Pay raise.
[0:06:49] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I I don't know. But if you get me me black band because I took Landy's spot, I'm a kill you. No.
[0:06:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy's got an early cutout today. Plus, like, we need a little female energy in the co host spot. You know what I'm saying?
[0:06:59] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Like, time. Pulling up.
[0:07:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Puppy... The puppets, like, look deep into my glasses. I don't know what he's doing in the chats. He's he's trying to... He's he's going crazy out here. Oh, wait. Let me finish my story. My story was cool. We're coming back from the Apple Store. Okay? I just bought a new MacBook, and I'm like, Nate, play some... Like, play some biggie. He's like, what do you wanna hear? So I say, play victory. He goes, victory lap. I'm like, what? No. Victory, bro. Play victory. Victory comes on, and he's like, this song is buns. I said, what the hell is buns? He says, ass, buns. And I'm like, yo. Are you kidding me right now? Did you really just tell me that victory with Biggie? Alright? I get it. There's a little ditty action, but, bro, cool. Talk talk to this boy, bro. Tell him something.
[0:07:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. No. Come on, man. I know it's it's a new generation, man. They don't they don't get that that nineties hip hop biggie pop.
[0:07:54] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You talking about? My kid was bumping DMX. He had a little bit of the locks going on. The bro
[0:08:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: DMX locks. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're all good. They're all good. Yeah. But but Drake is just in in new age, man. New age. New age, new generation. Gen z is different, man.
[0:08:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you so much.
[0:08:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've been
[0:08:10] Voice E: trying to tell him that that song's horrendous. He's not listening.
[0:08:12] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You're talking to the wrong person. You know what you're dealing with right there. That's a that's a parent fail.
[0:08:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's a parent fail. Yeah. Yeah. Let me talk to your mother. That's my sister too. Man.
[0:08:24] Voice E: She's about my mother.
[0:08:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Parent fail. What she say about my sister? Hey. Parent fail, bro. She's a smart nut. But what's up, everybody? Hope everybody's doing well. Happy hump day. I didn't know if you guys could actually... You hear that? That's not that's not shooting actually next door. Don't worry about it. We do not live in the drive by section of Jersey. It's just somebody working on their house next door. Landy, what's up, bro? Puppets.
[0:08:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, how are you all today? Today is another wonderful day here in the South Side Of California. We just call it the South Side. It's kinda gloomy. It's not really that sunny. No one's really having fun because it's hot as hell. And, you know, it's it's it's just going. And and the only lifeline that I had left was to come into ATC, get my my seat warmer spot for Nat Nat, and and now now I'm forced to do meme coin roulette and figure out which meme coin this little spinner is gonna land on so that I can go and yank all of the liquidity out of the chart and just have... I have to feel something now. Now I have to feel something. Alright?
[0:09:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shit. I thought I thought this was gonna be
[0:09:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: a problem. If he's
[0:09:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: gonna nuke all... He could nuke all our charts, Empress. Shoot. I didn't I didn't think it's true.
[0:09:46] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No, bro. I ain't in any means, so, like, you can have that. That's it.
[0:09:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was like, you... Emp is giving me suggestions now. Like, woah. Thanks, Emp. Well, I don't even own this one, but I bet you I can get in the liquidity pool for a little while and see what happens. No. I'm just kidding. Yeah. It's it's I'm having fun trading. I'm trading the markets, and I'm watching the markets. And I'm watching... More importantly, I'm watching dumped up fun, and it is fun to watch dumped up fun. It is... That's the most fun that you could possibly have. Everyone refers to it, of course, as pumped out fun and the pump token. It's gonna go to the moon. And I actually had people after one of the spaces, Dave, that was critical of me and people here saying that pump wasn't gonna pump. And then after it pumped a little bit, they were like, see? Told you so. And I was like, yeah. You know who's taking shorts right here? I am. I'm taking shorts, and you are long. So beware because you're gonna have to bend over and kiss your ass and portfolio goodbye bys. And so I've been having fun watching dumped up fun dump on their ass. Meanwhile, I've gotten to hold the short the entire way down to just take profits. I'm like, oh, more profit. Oh, more profit. Oh, more profit. It's like, literally, piece of candy. Piece of candy. Piece of candy. It's beautiful. I love it. Thank you, Eilong. You've made me a lot of money since the launch, and I appreciate you for your contribution to this space that we call crypto.
[0:11:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Landing mass extracting. Embers, does this count as renting your follower? Or, like, I guess if you tell them beforehand, like, does this make it okay? I guess we were all saying the same shit.
[0:11:30] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Just... I keep telling the world. The reason that I get to do the shit that I do is because it's a consent to play arena. If I tell you everything that I'm doing and you sign up for that abuse, you just you just kinda like it. I don't know what to tell you.
[0:11:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't worry. AirDrop is coming soon. That'll definitely pump the charts. Right? It's definitely... You know, dropping supply will definitely help. So get excited, everyone, that's in the pump token. Your AirDrop might or might not be coming soon.
[0:12:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. The one day I don't tag alpha gamer, that's when he shows up. Every day, I tag this motherfucker. Every single day, I make it a point to go through and type out a l p h a g a n because you know when it is to tag in the photo. Every day, I tag him. Every single day. And the one day that I don't tag him is the day that he shows up. The one day. I don't know. Yeah. Here we go. We're in for a little throwback treat, ladies and gentlemen. Give me a second. Sunny d, before we go to you, I guess we're gonna have to really find out what it's like in the bay. Alpha gamer, what the fuck is up, you stranger? It's good to see you. Up.
[0:12:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yo. What's up, Dave? What's up, everybody? Well, cool, Landy. You got the usual suspects. I see you got some new people now, Empress. Well, actually, no. Empress has been here. Sunny, Guru. Yo. What's up, everyone? Yeah, man. I've been busy. But, yeah, I'm back in the bay. I did I did go down to LA the previous weekend. So that was fun.
[0:13:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm so sorry.
[0:13:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. It was rough. You know, I had to go experience... You know, because everyone was talking all that shit about Los Angeles and how it's all ghetto and, you know, homeless syringes all over the place. And I gotta say, the shit was nice, bro. Like, I don't know what everyone's talking about. Like, I was like, I don't know what you guys are talking about, dude. This this Manhattan Beach is nice. You know? And then, like, I went down to the Redondo Beach Pier, and I'm like, man, everyone looks good, healthy. And I was like, I don't see any homeless. So I don't know what the fuck did you go talking about?... Hollywood?
[0:13:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Damn. What happened?
[0:13:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: The most expensive places to
[0:13:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: go. I'm like, gee, it's not here. I don't know why. Beverly Hills is gorgeous. I don't know what No. I didn't... No.
[0:13:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I didn't go to... No. I didn't go to Beverly Hills, man. That's where all the money's at. I know that. I I just went down to the beach. You know? And Go
[0:14:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: to the... Were you a gamer? Did you go to the jankiest of Hollywoods? No.
[0:14:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. I went to... Because it... Because they said it was right next to this El Segundo Power Center. Like, there's this big ass... I don't know, it's a big ass power plant. So I was like, oh, this is ghetto. You got the fucking industrial shit right here. And I was like, oh, this must be a ghetto ass beach. So... But it ended up turning out pretty nice. Yeah. Like, there was, like, a boardwalk right there. I don't know if you guys ever been to Manhattan Beach, but it's pretty nice. Like, you... The the back patio, like, was facing the ocean. I I actually posted about it, put some pictures up. Yeah. It was it was real fun. The reason why I went down there is because I pretty much had a a date with Wendy. So we met up IRL and, yeah, had had a good time. It was fun. But, yeah, I don't I don't... So so when everyone's talking trash about LA, man, you guys gotta stop all that because that that place is nice.
[0:14:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sir, you did not go into the city of LA then. You went to the beach. That is not where all the problems are.
[0:15:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It's not Yeah. But that's still Los Angeles. Right? That... And then that's
[0:15:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: considered a
[0:15:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: lot better. Barely qualifies as Los Angeles. You... That qualifies as Pacific Ocean. Right? That does not qualify as
[0:15:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: as Los Angeles. Hello, Empress. Empress, you're the cohost. Like, you don't... Cohost don't raise hands. Those are the rules. So you could just literally butt in and, like, that's, like, some of the perks.
[0:15:28] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Oh, well, I just wanted to say at some point, I need a moment to pop off whenever that works into your itinerary. I have a rant. And I also wanted to say that I would liken what Alpha is doing right now to somebody saying that they are big in meme coins, and all they hold is Pepe. It's kinda similar, I would imagine.
[0:15:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm pretty big in the meme coins.
[0:15:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh. You must... You're pretty zipping. Oh, you you guys you guys must be talking about a punk fan.
[0:15:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Not if guys were. Wait. Gamer, you didn't even you didn't even hit us with the OG shit, bro. Like, come on. What kind of
[0:16:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it's
[0:16:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: a beautiful day in the
[0:16:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bay Area. It's a nice 70 degree. Actually, it's, like, 63 with a slight breeze. And, yeah, man. Like, this... I had to come back over here to the Bay, to this fucking hellhole, you know, with the fucking human feces on the sidewalks. I'm like, that's why when I went down to LA, bro, I was shocked. I was like, man, you guys are, man, you guys don't you guys don't know what human feces looks like until you come over here to the fucking bay. You know? We
[0:16:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: don't we don't have a pre map in LA. We have a needle map.
[0:16:35] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Man, and the food, man. The food the food was on point, man. Like, it it was just good. It was just... I had a really good overall experience. And
[0:16:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gamer, you could join Gamer, you could join us on Fridays for a cock... Me and Stallion and Omelie, we do cock out Fridays. So it'll make you feel much more at home. So don't worry about it if you wanna come by.
[0:16:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. And, actually, it's funny because I know you guys were probably talking about pump. And man, I was in this other space, and, man, I could tell there's a bunch of hurt people in there.
[0:17:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: About pump?
[0:17:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. It was a pretty big space, and they were
[0:17:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that.
[0:17:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: They were so happy, you know, with how how it's performing. And they were like, wow. We're so, you know, happy with the founder, and, you know, we're gonna get all these airdrops, and, know, everyone should keep buying these falling knives. And, yeah, they they were really digging it.
[0:17:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that. I love seeing every single day when, like, the markets are green, green, green, green, green, and then the one red is just pump fun deeper and deeper and deeper. Cool. Cool. Does it bring a smile to your face, bro? Like, it brings a smile to my face. That's all I'm saying. Although, I did see Zoro up another 70%, which made me a little sour. Yes. So Zorra Zorra was up
[0:17:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: 5530% within the past seven days, man. With the market, I got... Like I say, you you expect this to happen. I mean, it's not surprising. I mean, guys, we've been pumping like crazy. I I said this move was too fast, too quick, but it doesn't matter. This is just the beginning, guys. And I think people are celebrating when they bought. Now they're now. It's just the emotional roller coaster in this game. This is the reason why I always say it. Right? The best thing to do as an individual crypto, find something outside checking the daily charts because you drive yourself nuts. I do spaces every day. I... I'm always researching. I'm yapping. I'm quacking. I'm doing all these things. I'm busy. So I don't take the trust every day. My my... I I am emotionless when the market goes down. You have to be because, man, just yesterday, oh, Solana, we are $200. Yo. We go to 300. We go to 400. Ethan is going to 8 k. I'm like, bro, chill, man. Chill. We just went up and, like, enjoying the ride. It's not gonna be that fast, man. So... But like I said, the timeline is all freaking out again as usual, but it's funny to see, man. I just... He's just... I was... I'm used to it by by now, though. Definitely used to it.
[0:19:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Kinda crazy. Emp, sound... Yo. Gamer is crazy, bro. Like, look at this gamer. He's like he's got... Oh my god. He's he's like bread. Oh, I was gonna say, shit. He's leaving, like, quick like that, ducking out. Goddamn. Emp, go for it. Sound off. Who we sounding off on on Meme Coins?
[0:19:28] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: They... That doesn't... No. I'm not even gonna do that because I ain't trying to scrap with Landy right now. I'm not really in the mood. I wanna be Landy at the moment. Listen. I know y'all think I'm so kumbaya education. Yay. Information for the masses, whatever. There's also a level, I just wanna say, get fucked. I don't know if some of y'all know, but we have been here. I know people think they're, oh, they're KOL. They got big followers. They they they they they. Bitch, everybody up here works, and every piece of our network we earned, and we have cried, and we have compensated. We have accepted apologies that we wanted to kick someone's teeth in for. We have given apologies. We have done all the shit. So if you don't understand the basic concept of actions have consequences and you have some level of entitlement and you ever feel like you have the right to talk about gatekeeping in any capacity, you need to get a reality check. Yes. Shit can be gatekeep to high heaven. Some people gatekeep everything. There are very exclusive f and f groups. There are very exclusive pay to access TGs. There are subscription only spaces. I hate to say it. You might really resent it. But every morsel that you get from an OG has... Who has put time in this space that you get for free is because we're nice enough to give that to you. You can take it as condescending. Preach.
[0:21:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can hate
[0:21:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: that shit, but we absolutely are nice enough to impart that to you. So that brings me here. If you're gonna act like an entitled puke or a disrespectful fuck and we decide to deny you access to any any piece of what we have available to us, call it gatekeeping. Call me the motherfucking gatekeeper of the universe. When you come on me sideways and I block your ass, cry harder, or be a man, apologize because, again, OGs have to swallow a lot of bullshit and move past a lot of bullshit. You normally get, like, nine times and start acting right. But if you're gonna stick on a mountain and then you're gonna add to your list of grievances, oh, and she's gatekeeping me, good. Suck it up, buttercup. Get laid. Get fucked.
[0:21:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love this. It's times like this that really make me so appreciate miss Gecko, where she's just like, sometimes when we wanna go nuts on people, she's just like, lead with grace. Me and Amelia are like, okay. Okay. Miss Geck, shout out to you. And m, yeah, fuck those people. I love this.
[0:22:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, and I'm gonna... Real quick, Dave. I put
[0:22:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: it up top so you could see... Like, if you look
[0:22:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: at those pictures from Manhattan Beach, yeah, there... There's no homeless on the beach. So...
[0:22:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I missed you, gamer. Oh my god. I missed you so much.
[0:22:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Ignoring me, I was like, you know what? I'll just let Landy take over.
[0:22:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, snap. He's ignoring you too? Damn.
[0:22:44] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah, bro. Ever since Landy got over 10 k for some reason, bro.
[0:22:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's hard.
[0:22:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: He doesn't get back to me anymore.
[0:22:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're just
[0:22:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: closing off. I'm like, bro,
[0:22:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: you used to get back to
[0:22:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: me, like, within five minutes. That was, like, five days.
[0:23:00] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: What happened?... Let Landy ignore you. You can't let that happen. Like, he cannot let Landy ignore you.
[0:23:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I have to start gatekeeping. Over 10 k, you gotta start gatekeeping. Alright? So we got...
[0:23:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Ever since 10 k. I've been keeping track, but ever since you hit 10 k, you're just blowing off air, like, fuck it.
[0:23:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hell no. Alpha Gamer straight up ditched me. I tried to follow him into an ordinal space. He was, like, in a... He was in the cohost spot. I'm, like, requesting up, and then the space is closed. I'm like, fuck.
[0:23:35] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Just wanna say 10 is the new five k. Sorry, Landy.
[0:23:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: 10 K is the new 5 k. Like that. 10 K is the new 5 k. Real quick. Let me just say what's up to Sunny d. Sunny d and Sunny and Justice. Sunny d, what's good?
[0:23:52] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yo. It is even more beautiful than the Bay Area here today.
[0:23:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Okay. Where are at, Sunny? Where where
[0:24:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: are spent
[0:24:03] Sunny D @dylN0chill: half the day puppy sitting this beautiful four week old Labrador retriever, and I got off the boat. My farmer's tan is even darker now, and I'm just living this this seaside lifestyle, and I'm, yeah, it's a beautiful day.
[0:24:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And tomorrow Wait. Wait. Wait. So you're feeling me about the beach style... Lifestyle. Right? Like, right there on the beach, man. I'm telling you. Seaside.
[0:24:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's nice. I... Like, I'm not
[0:24:32] Sunny D @dylN0chill: a huge beach goer. I don't like sand. I prefer lakes.
[0:24:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Wait. What? You don't like Yeah.
[0:24:40] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I don't like, like, lake
[0:24:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's for another time. That's for another time. That's for another time. Is this the problem? Tomorrow,
[0:24:48] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Justin's gonna fucking ring the Nasdaq bell in, and is gonna be officially on the Nasdaq.
[0:24:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. Love that. PS, the Sun Pump team absolutely loved the recap, by the way, and new proposal going out to them. And I also just got a message because I've... I submitted... I've been up since 04:30AM. I just took an old man midday nap for, like, two and a half hours. I was like, hey. Yo. Don't go to the Max store. Shit is crazy, bro. I'm telling you right now. Like, it... It'll it'll tire you out. But just got a message that said... Because I submitted a few proposals. Company said they're reviewing your proposal, Dave. Do you have any other host you can recommend as well so that we can join as many spaces as possible over the next three weeks? Well, it just so happens. Yes. I do know a bunch of different hosts. Not late night with Langley Landy. That's for sure.
[0:25:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Of course.
[0:25:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, you know... Yeah. That's for damn sure. So cool. We got some money money coming in, bro. We ain't trying to give more money to God. You know what I'm saying? Like, forget that. I've give... We've given it enough. It's time for us to share the spoils. But, yeah, let's cook. Let... Let's take home real quick. Stallion, hope everything is good, my brother. Everything good?
[0:25:57] Voice I: Oh, bro. Everything's good.
[0:25:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I mean, I
[0:26:00] Voice I: had a couple crazy days, you know, family kind of stuff, but I've been able to recover. You know? It's all about that. Man, I had a funny stream the other day. Had Aria take a look at your profile. She asked me if Kaka the squirrel was your fursona, if you know what that is. And, that that got me cracked. I'm gonna send you a clip of that. She also told me that, she was threatening to short all of your crypto holdings if you don't give her an ENS domain. So she got a little jealous when I told her about... Because I had to kind of review everything. I'm I'm I'm gonna send you guys a clip. It's hilarious. But I I was kinda going over that on stream because it's so cool that you guys do have that, and I've been trying to tell all the people that I know about that. So just give a little give a little plug to Dave here because that is the thing that I've been kinda having an idea, like, in parallel to about how can you, you know, take all this information that you guys are putting out and have a nice bite sized way for people who are really busy because... I mean, come on, guys. Get it? It's tough even for me sometimes to make it some of these spaces. And if you miss it, I feel like you miss so much information. So having a way for us to access these things, great. So just wanna give Dave a little shout out because he's the the host with the most. So I appreciate you guys bringing me up as always.
[0:27:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Appreciate you. Italian. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. Good stuff. And the hardest working... Well, the double the double personality in showbiz out here, Adrian, a k a... I am not calling you Adrian. This is ridiculous. This is a rid... This is nonsense. Adrian. Adrian. Justice, what's up?
[0:27:30] Voice E: I'm good. I'm good. What's up, everyone? Damn. It's been so long since I since I spoke here. Well, crypto has been cryptoing. Life has been life, and everything has been doing as they they have been doing. Yeah. I I had a good day. It was mix of good and bad. I mean, I I was having a very progressive one until one or two things happened at my school, but, yeah, it's all soft now and, yeah, I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. Good. Let's let's go. Let's go.
[0:28:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go, Justin. I'm happy to have you back. And, Justice, I can't thank you enough. I'm gonna be, like, littering the timeline with all the audiograms that you've been creating for me. You've been doing an absolutely killer job. For those that don't know, Justice is now part of the ATC team, and she has been absolutely, I mean, professional. Justice, you are worth every single penny that I'm literally... Like, that I'm paying you. You're probably underpaid at this point, but it's probably still
[0:28:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: How much is the honey getting paid?
[0:28:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. A lot. Too much. Way too much. Landy's been getting paid way too much, but way too much. But, Justice, thank you. Sincerely, I appreciate the hell out of you. You've been absolutely killing it for me, and and I I really... I I genuinely, genuinely appreciate the hard work that you're putting in for real. So thank you. Let's go. Emp, shoot. And then we're
[0:28:47] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: gonna jump into the... Tell me he's here before he leaves. Wait. What? Can we use Landy while he's here... While he is here before he leaves?
[0:28:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Go for it.
[0:28:57] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Landy, I I sent you that thing. Something with hyper strategy over on Hyper Liquid today happened. Do you know what that is? I, of course, just so everybody is updated as usual, know nothing about what the fuck I'm doing on... In this ecosystem, so I put money into whatever this is. So I was just curious because big money people are talking about it, but that could just mean that they're trying to rob me.
[0:29:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. It might be exit liquidity.
[0:29:24] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I mean... Yeah. Pretty much.
[0:29:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It looks like...
[0:29:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Well, first first define it, Landy. What is it?
[0:29:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's a... It's an ICO. Free sell. So...
[0:29:38] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: BC BC or or community based?
[0:29:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: I believe they have something from... I don't remember if this is the one that has something from Coinbase or crypto.com.
[0:29:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why don't you guys do this? Maybe, Lindy, if you wanna, like, maybe do a little research in the background, like, for him to give Empress the best thing, do a little homework on it real quick.
[0:29:59] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'll I'll I'll put the tweet up top if you wanna look... Be looking into it as well so you have some confidence.
[0:30:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Awesome. Thank you.
[0:30:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Perfect. Alright. Let's talk Telegram for a second because there's some... There was some big news a couple days ago.
[0:30:09] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: There's always been a Telegram native wallet.
[0:30:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. For US users. That was the thing. Oh, I didn't put that in the title. Oh, my fault. I forgot to put that in title. Yeah. That's what I meant. I know there's always been a Telegram native wallet. I meant for US users. This I hope it's up. Because I thought
[0:30:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: you're gonna say something else like, oh, man. He lost another finger, you know, or something like, open up that.
[0:30:31] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Freaking alpha and ATC 10 wallet. It it has native... A native 10 wallet.
[0:30:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: I hate you. I hate you. Why can't I just deliver a headline without the shit? You... Like, do you guys see what I deal with on the daily over here? Do you see what's happening? And here and here comes resident... Oh, resident throw up fucking billy bets out of them. Look at this. Look what's happening.
[0:30:54] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: He hurried in for the news. Right, Brad?
[0:30:57] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm here for all of the alpha on this blockchain, apparently. There's a... What's this app? Telegram? You know, I'm new, and I'd love to learn more about it.
[0:31:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well... Shit. I hate you all. Well, if you need to... Well, if you must know, Telegram just flipped the switch on a built in self custody wallet, okay, for US users. Okay? You know what that means? That means 87,000,000 Americanos now can see their wallet in telegram menus. Okay?
[0:31:28] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Just on a quick...
[0:31:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Obviously, last... Maybe Puerto Rico. I don't know. Maybe. It's 87,000,000 Americans. I don't know which Americans. I hate you all. I hate it. I hate it here so much. Listen. Now what you can do, you could send and receive ton, USDT, and other ton based tokens. Shout out to Tommy and my ton crew, not ton. Oh. Do I why do I have a problem with saying that?
[0:31:52] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Why I... He is paying for me to send him my tons.
[0:31:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. That... I was like, what's the angle here? I was like, ah, there it is. Gotcha.
[0:32:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Everybody send me your wallets. Now.
[0:32:07] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I got in ton under $2, bitches.
[0:32:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Yeah. We... Here we go. Let's get the violin playing in the background. We've heard this one before. All we hear is ton under $2, bitches. Okay. That's your claim to fame. I'm trying to school some people here in The United States because that's the majority of our listenership to tell them, listen. You now have access to this. This is great. Now here's the here's the kicker. You actually get some really cool perks. Built in swaps, staking, direct DeFi access on all of these mini dApps. This is gonna take over like wildfire. I'm telling y'all. This is gonna be something. Zero fees on USDT buys through MoonPay. Obviously, big partnership there. That's monster. So Apple Pay, Google Pay, any of your cards. And it's an off ramp that lets you cash out straight to a bank card. And, hopefully, it'll give you more than 1% USDC back from fucking... Like Circle does on MetaMask, but I have a feeling it will give you a little bit more. And I saw that they were rolling out a bunch of different stuff in terms of grants and everything else now. So they're moving into The US and they're moving in heavy. Nate, your mom. Yeah. Emp, go for it.
[0:33:09] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I just wanna say the alpha would have been learning what a VPN is when you're in crypto before this happened. But to add to that, I would also like to say, I think when that guy got swooped up in France, the head of Ton, whatever position he had, I don't do
[0:33:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: He lost his pinky.
[0:33:29] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. What... That guy, everybody's like, oh, Ton, and, like, they they dumped a bunch or whatever else. I I just want people to understand, Telegram is a massive communication network that has existed for a very long time with similar shady, shady background to Bitcoin. But I think that it is a incredibly fleshed out, very utilized network. More and more people are joining in every day. If you don't believe it, turn on... Join the app, turn on your contacts, and you'll see so and so has joined. So and so has joined. And those are normies you'll see that are joining Telegram. So I'm bullish on 10 as a future prospect. It's something that might stick around versus some of this other vaporware.
[0:34:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: When is the last time anybody ever heard the fucking word Discord? I'm not even kidding. Hop in our Discord? I think maybe the Think guys might be the only team that I've heard literally say hop into Discord. Cool. Am I crazy?
[0:34:21] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You sound like a boomer.
[0:34:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'll
[0:34:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: probably say you're fuck... Talk a boomer. I'll say. If you if you if you grind in an entrenchment or air drops, I mean, you are in Discord. That's... I mean, Discord is where, a lot of people kind of change lives, man, because you're you're getting in early on, getting this Discord role. So Discord is still a thing, bro. It's it's still less, bro.
[0:34:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's worse. Listen, guys. I like those things. Yeah. Score. Look. Yeah. Listen. Okay? When I say I don't... I like the fact that we all don't agree, it's not, I agree. I agree. No. No. Agree with me. You just disagree with each other. Okay? That's how this works. I say something. Bro. Everyone says, yeah.
[0:35:06] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Dave Wright. Are doing Fortnite in Discords. They're doing all the all the thing. Half of these NFT collections are literally gaming in Discords together and passing alpha around in there. I would have better alpha if I could lower myself to play Fortnite and pretend to be an e girl. If I would buy Kitmir's, we would have better alpha.
[0:35:28] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, yo, you can actually hook your Discord up straight to your PS five. And so, like, live streaming and all of that stuff directly from your PS five to a Discord server. And so, like, I know a bunch of different guys that, like, yeah, team up and play, like, team games online. And instead of, like, using the chat on the PlayStation, they'll just hop into a Discord server they've spun up, and then they can also share screen and, like, do all sorts of other stuff.
[0:35:50] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'm not buying kitten ears for any of you.
[0:35:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Get this. Some used Yeah.
[0:35:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Viking helmets that that that... If you join my
[0:36:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: disco... Bro, nobody wants your sunglasses. Nobody wants your...
[0:36:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: We can play Rainbow Six. We could also play some...
[0:36:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: And I'm the boomer? And I'm the boomer. He said Rainbow Six.
[0:36:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, dude. That's actually still really popular, and that's what they're playing on Disney all the time. Yeah. For real.
[0:36:18] Bread @_ToastMalone: Nobody really... Could I just......
[0:36:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Final Fantasy or Half Life?
[0:36:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. Can I just mail you, like, a
[0:36:23] Bread @_ToastMalone: self addressed stamped envelope with request for access? Could we do that?
[0:36:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then I'll I'll be sending you your your your confirmation
[0:36:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, and
[0:36:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: you can enter your confirmation code into the server.
[0:36:35] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So, Landy, I was taking a look at this hyperstrategy. So it looks like it's a convertible bond structure
[0:36:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:36:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Similar to similar to what Sailor is doing with MicroStrategy or strategy.
[0:36:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes.
[0:36:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Looks like they're they're trying to... They're trying... Basically, it's a carbon copy. And what they're trying to do is is... So this HyperStrategy Empress is basically a... It's the same same playbook. Right? They're gonna be a hype treasury company that's gonna be using convertible bonds structure in order to accumulate money, right, to buy more hype. It's it's the same flywheel thing that strategy is doing with Bitcoin, except they're gonna be doing it with hype.
[0:37:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: The only thing with this... We saw the... Gamer, we saw the therapeutics company do this. If you remember, they backed in 800,000,000 of hype. We talked about this two weeks ago.
[0:37:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Right. Right? This so this won't be... Yeah. This won't be the first per... First mover in the space. There... There's actually a a a few treasury companies now. Right? Not not to cite, but there there was there was Fetch dot ai. Right? There's the Fetch dot ai treasury company. There's a... What's the other one? And we even have a dog one now, c blow. C blow ticker is a... Is accumulating dog. It's the first first public company to have a meme coin in their treasury on their balance books, by the way. So, you know, a lot of these these treasury stocks are entering the... Know, essentially, it's it's the ICO. Right? This is... You know, if you were here back in, was it 2021 or '20... Was it the end of twenty twenty or 2020? I can't remember now. You know, that was last cycle. If you were here last cycle...
[0:38:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was before
[0:38:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: last cycle. You're thinking the cycle before it was the...
[0:38:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that's seventeen seventeen eighteen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how long
[0:38:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: we fucking been here.
[0:38:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, shit.
[0:38:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But but it looks like it's it's the same shit. Right? Where you're gonna have all kinds of companies jumping in. There's a big differentiator
[0:38:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: here, Alpha. There's a big differentiator.
[0:38:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Go ahead.
[0:38:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is not a public company. They're doing this completely within the hype ecosystem.
[0:38:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. That's true. They're raising money within crypto.
[0:38:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So... And and my best guess is what they're probably gonna try to do is prove out this model in the in the hype ecosystem and then probably IPO the company.
[0:39:05] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Later on once it's... Well, because they have to prove themselves successful. Otherwise, they won't be able to go public. Right?
[0:39:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. That's my point is is they're likely gonna do this on chain using hype and then try to IPO later. That... And because they'll get a lot... If it's successful, they'll get a lot of investors here that have connections, and maybe they already have connection. We don't know. But which I think she was asking was about this presale. This is... The reason why it was delayed is because of the white list. They had some problem with
[0:39:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: the white list that they had to fix.
[0:39:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. I wasn't asking about how a presale works. I was asking, like... First off, what's an ICO? What's that stand for?
[0:39:44] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Initial coin offering.
[0:39:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[0:39:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: 100% sell.
[0:39:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100% of them were So
[0:39:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: you like IPO. Right? IPO is like
[0:39:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: a public off... This is just
[0:39:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: c for coin. Right? It... But it's essentially the same structure. But it looks like tier one is... So, like, 22 height, right, for tier one, that's... What is that? Around thousand dollars? And then tier two is eight and then 2.2. So it looks like tier one... Oh, actually, this is UTC. So this is... This has already happened. Right? Yeah. I can click looking at your post.
[0:40:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. And did you get in on this
[0:40:25] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: or no? I did.
[0:40:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because I'm
[0:40:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: looking at the UTC price or time, and I'm like, wait a minute. This is already... Yeah. This is already passed.
[0:40:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: One go live. When when when It's in...
[0:40:37] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Right now, the presale is in... So they did it as a tiered presale. I think it was first tier, you could put 22 hype in. Second tier, you could put eight hype in. And third tier, which is running now still, you can put Yeah. Two.
[0:40:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Point 2. But it doesn't say pin that? It's up top. Yeah.
[0:40:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll throw it too. I'll throw it too high.
[0:40:59] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Don't... You have to be white listed.
[0:41:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. How do I get that? Empress hook me up. I'm in the group chat. Like, what the hell?
[0:41:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Actually, you're not.... Too late. You you you actually have deliberately not done half the shit that I've told you to do, actually. Okay.
[0:41:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: So let's talk about Ozzy Osbourne and his NFT collection. Doing numbers. Yo.
[0:41:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Maybe it's because you know about Ozzy Osbourne that you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing.
[0:41:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, that's fine. Let me just... Let me let me pivot. Open the table.
[0:41:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I like it.
[0:41:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Trying to get out of the line of fire over here. God. And why is it that the second Raffman came up, Cole dropped down. All of a sudden, a little TNA comes on the stage. Cole disappears. Do guys see what I'm talking about? This is what it means to be married. Thank you, Raffman. I'm just here crashing out, guys. I'm trying to learn. You know what I mean? I'm not the smartest guy in the room, so I'm just being quiet. You've done enough. Thank you. Oh, look who decides to come back up.
[0:41:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hey. The the... Those Crypto Bats by Aussie, man. Those things really ripped, though, yesterday.
[0:42:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crypto bats NFT says looks at all time high. Check this out. Every crypto bat trade has been creatively directed by Aussie Osborn. I don't know how real that is. The website redone like some of Aussie's previous bat friends, these ones live safely in the metaverse and are not edible yet. Obviously, those that don't know, Ozzy Osbourne passed away two days ago. Listed as a mem... According to the... Oh, look at this. Of course, I say this, and this is what the report says. 1,330 users had been listed as members of the Discord. Of course. I haven't seen Discord in years, and now it says, hey. Get this. Look at all these Discord users. Anyways
[0:42:40] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Wait. I forgot one question on the last thing. Can I ask one more question on the last thing?
[0:42:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: We are all over the place. Yeah.
[0:42:46] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. Why are they doing such little increments? Like, because as Landy and anybody else over there knows, people are playing in big numbers over there. So why would they be taking such a capped amount from...
[0:42:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Master appeal.
[0:43:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: They do... Because they can always raise the cap again. They can always... Because they can just do another issuance of the bonds. So they had a cap, and then they have the tiered buy ins at set prices to get in. Because they're doing it they're doing it basically for for pricing of of investment and stake, and then they can always do it again. Right?
[0:43:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: They can...
[0:43:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: They can always do another round. Yeah. They can always do another round. If they don't get enough money, they can always do another one and another one. Right? It's... So that's the same thing that Sailor's doing. Right? Like, Sailor just bought another, what, 6,000 or 4... Whatever thousands of Bitcoin. Right? And then, like, that's how he consistently is coming up with, you know, billions of dollars because it keeps having multiple rounds, right, of of raising. So it could be the same thing, and it could be an incentive. Right? Like, they want everyone to get in. You know? Wanna see how much money they can raise. Right? Yeah. And, usually, by tier one, you know, that that gives you a pretty good idea of, like, how many people are interested. So so, like, if they... Let's say they only got, like, 50% of what they thought, you know, they should be at, then they'll probably have another round. But but but if they're good, then they'll be like, oh, okay. Yeah. We got enough money. You know, we're gonna buy. You know? And then and then they're gonna do a whole, like, marketing campaign, right, around, you know, like, oh, we have, you know, $500,000,000. We're gonna buy hype in in phases. You know? And it... It'll probably be one of those.
[0:44:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. They they met the cap. They had a max cap in their docs already.
[0:44:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, did they? Cap. Yeah.
[0:44:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, what was what was it? What was the max cap?
[0:44:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Think it's, like, 3,000 hype. I think they might have raised it during the
[0:44:48] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: it says the pre sell max cap is 3,000 hype and total raised so far is 2,417.2.
[0:44:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, that's because the phase phase
[0:44:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: three is still going on.
[0:44:57] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. But but it... Yeah.
[0:45:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: They haven't hit yet?...
[0:45:01] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Three, like, just started, though. So I think...
[0:45:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just, like, right now, I think. Right?
[0:45:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Yeah.
[0:45:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Oh, and and are you saying
[0:45:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: that we're talking about this and nobody can take advantage of this because we're not whitelisted and we're wasting time on this now. Why?
[0:45:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. No. Dave. Dave, the tier three says first come, first serve.
[0:45:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's FCFS. Uh-huh. Thank you very much, gamer.
[0:45:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're welcome. Which, by
[0:45:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the way,
[0:45:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: is still white listed.
[0:45:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Link at the top. Let's go. I need something.
[0:45:30] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: The link is at the top for anybody who wants to check
[0:45:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: on the and find out.
[0:45:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. It's at the top. You can see a tier three first time, first served.
[0:45:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which is a whitelist.
[0:45:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like an entertainment. A whitelist.
[0:45:44] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Or or, you know, since you already know Empress got in, you can make, you know, a a p two p deal with Empress and be like, hey. You know, I'll I'll get you, you know, five hype or three whatever. Right?
[0:45:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, Empress. I'll get you five hype or whatever. Okay. What else?
[0:46:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You're gonna need... You can do, like, a backdoor deal. Right?
[0:46:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'm frustrated. I should have maxed... I didn't even max bid it on the tier because I didn't know anything about it, so I'm I'm not reckless. Landy, I'll tell you I'm hyper conservative. So I went back in to see if I could add a little bit, but, no, when you get that tier ends... So... Because you do... Because the next tier stair steps down. Right? So I'm above what I would be capped at for tier three because I contributed in tier two
[0:46:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Open up another wallet.
[0:46:29] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Even though I was there. No. You can't. It's tied to it.
[0:46:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It's white... No. It's white listed. Yeah.
[0:46:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, right. But I'm saying at that valuation. But now if you wanna still get in, if it's first come, first served, you just open up another wallet and get in.
[0:46:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You can't. That's part of the white list. It's basically just like NFTs. It's guaranteed phase, and then you still have
[0:46:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: to be wait listed for the entire thing.
[0:46:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm very concerned.
[0:46:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it first come, first serve, or do I need to be wait listed?
[0:46:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: First come, first serve is a wait list designation.
[0:46:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So that's what we're saying. Because, like, I'm like, so I need to be white listed. And then someone said, no. It's first come, first serve as in, like, it's public. Which one is it?
[0:47:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Public would be public. First come, first serve means that
[0:47:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It is
[0:47:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: they run out during this phase, not all
[0:47:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: of Gamer, I'm gonna kill you.
[0:47:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: So the point the point being is just like any NFT phases where you have guaranteed white list and then you've got... Which means that you and only you that are in the guaranteed phase are going to get it. Any that don't that that don't mint an NFT, it goes to first come, first served phase and then public. Well, this was a three tiered system where the last tier is the first come, first served. They're just gating it with wallets, and you do have to have... Believe there's NFTs that qualified for this and a few other things that qualified that... To to get on the way.
[0:47:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Probably if you got the airdrop. Probably you... If you got the airdrop, you qualify. No. But what I was saying, like like like, hypothetically, if if Empress put in 10 hype, right, and then you're like, okay. I'll I'll I'll give you the one hype, and then whatever you get, you know, whatever you get out of this, I'll get 10%. You see what I'm saying? Like, you can make... You could just make sure that kinda that kinda deal.
[0:48:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: It means I gotta trust
[0:48:12] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: you. You're interested in shit. We're at the opening phase....
[0:48:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was... I'm I'm not doing none of
[0:48:18] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: this content. Do you hear what he said? Did you hear that? There was math involved
[0:48:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: in what Dave said.
[0:48:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: There was math involved.... Math, and that was wrong.
[0:48:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Alpha Giver wants to go back to spreadsheet trading. Like, probably gonna do some
[0:48:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: The good old days,
[0:48:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: bro. Bullshit. Like, yo.
[0:48:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. The good old days.
[0:48:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: One. If you got white listed that one, I'll give you the money after you get it. Okay. Who's gonna send first? I'll send it to you first, and then, okay. We got the transactions, your transactions here. Send me your transaction. Go confirm on... Those days were wild anyway.
[0:48:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hey, bro. That... You know, I... That... They've got all crazy when I was like, hey. Yeah. I him $20,000 to get that OMB.
[0:48:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: We are... I'm not gonna go down the track because you made it seem like it was... You're like, Dave, you could take part. You don't give me why I listed. It's first come, first serve, motherfucker. Sure. Okay? So don't don't don't switch it up on me. Let's go. We're moving we're moving past it. Anyways, let's talk RWAs for a second because I saw today Goldman Sachs and BNY Mellon. If y'all remember BNY Mellon of fuck a CEO of f crypto. Crypto's a scam. Literally, like, cut off all of their freaking Visa and Mastercards. You can't do any transactions with that. But, yeah, Goldman Sachs and BNY Mellon launched a tokenized money market fund for institutions. In what world is any of this making sense? Like, Wall Street is moving in a very weird way. On top of that, Jim Kramer literally said he's starting to buy Bitcoin. We're all fucked, by the way.
[0:49:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Know that... That's actually why the market is is tanking today. It's because, you know, Jim Kramer was telling everyone to buy Bitcoin in heat. So if you're... You know, if anyone out there is wondering, you know, why did the markets turn red today, just go look at Jim Kramer. You know? And everyone knows that's a 99% hit rate indicator. You know? So if he is bullish, man, that's that's panic sell button right there.
[0:50:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's true. Commenting bacon in the fucking group chat. This is what we're do... We're reverting to bacon from yesterday. This is what's happening now. Just so everybody knows what's going on in the back channels. Yeah. I don't know, man. Like, Wall Street's literally all over the place. Another story is MoonPay exec caught in Trump linked crypto scam. Why did the DOJ seal the case? People really don't wanna see this whole shit with... They real... Cool. You saw this? It's like, oh, a federal cryptocurrency fraud case has revealed MoonPay executives as victims in a in a $250,000 crypto scam with ties to Donald Trump, aka the Trump coin. This is what's crazy to me, bro. It's like, link to Donald Trump. He's a scam artist. And it's like, bro, what are we doing out here? This is nuts. I got nothing on this one. What else? What are you guys seeing on the timeline? Because I'm I'm seeing, like, washed up stories, down day Oh. Overall. What's up? I I post... I posted up top. I don't know if
[0:51:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: you guys saw this, but Fidelity Digital Assets, their research team just released this Bitcoin series. It says about Bitcoin, this series by Fidelity Digital Assets. And I I took a look at it real quick. So this this would actually be good for normies. You know? So for, like, your your family or, you know you know, normies. Right? Like, people who have no idea what's going on. It's just a quick... Looks like it's just a quick series, right, just to get the... Some education, you know, just to kinda, you know, get them going into, like, digital assets and why it's important. And it's from Fidelity. And and a lot of, you know, a lot of a lot of people trust Fidelity. Right? Because a lot of people have their four zero one k's with them. But, yeah, I saw that was interesting. And in in regards to what you're talking about, Dave, the other shocker that I saw was, JPMorgan, right, offering, crypto services. Because remember, Jamie Dimon was the guy saying, you know, it's rat poison, and he'll fire any of his employees that, buy Bitcoin. Yeah. So his company is now gonna offer crypto services. Same thing like PNC with Coinbase and... Essentially, all the banks are coming in. Right? You're you're gonna have crypto services, and they're also gonna offer to custody. I'm not sure how that's gonna work, but, apparently, they're gonna offer custody solutions also. So you can have your bank account connected to a wallet, I guess, a bank crypto wallet. So that... Yeah. I saw that across the timeline. I was like, wow. That's that's interesting.
[0:52:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. JD Diamond, bro. My man literally shows up. This is actually funny. This is a funny story. Like, just two seconds. Like, somebody would tell me, oh, he shows up to the Yale Club, like, when he gets out of his car, and they put on his golden slippers. And they actually showed me a video of actually this happening. I'm like, you gotta you gotta be kidding me. They're like go... Like, they're gold, like, slipper, not, like, made of gold, but I'm like, this is a joke. The driver literally puts the shoes down, and he puts his feet in them and then walks into the Yale Club. I'm like, this is not real life, bro. This is not real life. Like, I couldn't believe what I was watching. This was this was a couple years ago, but how crazy is that? And this is a man that was telling everybody, rat poison. God forbid, like, Bitcoin is not the answer. It's this. It's this. This. Now all of a sudden, look at Chase trying to join the... JPMorgan trying to join the fray now. Landon, talk to you, boys.
[0:53:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Have you have you ever met him before? No. Oh, dude. That guy is the elite of the elitists. He he is an elite elitist. You know, there's elite space host, there's elitists, and then there's the elite elitists. That dude would have you powder his nose before he goes on stage.
[0:53:52] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Give me three seconds in the room. I'll have him walking out shorter. It'll be fun. Let's do it.
[0:53:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Yes.
[0:53:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. It's...
[0:53:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: I would hate to do that.
[0:54:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: He... He's he's he's not... He's also not very kind to people. There's some guys that are really kind really nice.... Seconds then.
[0:54:11] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'll cut him out....
[0:54:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Personable, and he is not. I don't know if you could have picked that up from Jamie Dimon.
[0:54:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Really? Really? That's that's what he got. He he was, like, a really nice guy, Randy. I don't I don't know what you're talking about.
[0:54:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Get out here, bro.
[0:54:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you were to watch any any interview of his on CNBC from Davos or wherever, Satashi, Satashi, Satashi. Get out of here with you, Satashi. Cool. Accept my cohost invite. It's throwing me off. I see Empress and Landy. You gotta accept the cohost, bro. Please, it's it's really driving
[0:54:38] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: me Bro. Bro.
[0:54:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brad, this is where you say I have real value to add here.
[0:54:41] Bread @_ToastMalone: Did you see this? I just pinned it up top. I don't encourage anybody to go look at it. Feel free to delete it. But that was an actual post today from virtuals. Right? And there's a lot of, you know, mixed feelings about it out there in the space. You know? Some saying that that type of content has been, honestly, one of the more successful types of content on the Internet. It's kinda how JPEG started being shared on the Internet, and there's a whole lore and history to that. You know? And at the other time Oh my god. Then on the other hand
[0:55:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: How do I get it on this?
[0:55:11] Bread @_ToastMalone: Right. It's a virtual token. It's like, are you guys trying to be serious or, like, what? You know? So I would love to hear the panel's opinions on this one because that's... I thought they got hacked. And I was like, oh, no way. And then turns out, they was like, oh, no. That was like... That's an actual post from virtual's protocol.
[0:55:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love this. Oh my god. This is fantastic. SCM has officially landed on virtual's ecosystem. I don't know what SCM is. Brought to you by Moxie. Try it out on Butler agent today. This is great. NSFW content is finally here. Like, people go crazy for this shit. Like, bread, we need to get in on this. We need to figure out exactly what we need to do because we need to get, like like... Yeah. All of it. And I'm not saying that from the creepy fucking whatever side. I'm saying that from
[0:55:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's the selling a little bit money.
[0:55:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I'm saying this shit's gonna cook. Justice, what's up?
[0:56:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, it's gonna cook. Mark
[0:56:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: my words. Cream free.
[0:56:08] Voice E: Yeah. So, yeah, I was I was following what's game... Gamer pinned on top, right, about, you know... Literally, the movements on mass adoption has been, like, so wild, crazy. That's mass adoption of, like, crypto and all that with two turning into a p and blah blah blah. But I know I don't know if it's just me that is seeing this, but, like, with all of these movements being made, I don't know if people are purposely not looking there. But to me, like, there is no way I'm going to... Like, personally myself, I'm never going to advise anyone to put their life and property and financial wealth, everything on crypto with the state of security we have now. Like, it is so fucking dead. Like, it... Not... Nothing... Just the the slightest, misclick. Right? You could lose it all. You could lose it all. So I I don't know if it's just if it's just me. Like, as much as everyone wants, you know, stable coins and crypto to become... To replace the usual fiat currencies, like, nobody's talking about the safety of your world. Like, if you are bringing all of your life your life's finance work on... In... Or in crypto, right, it it should at least be safe. Right? I mean, in in web two, in... With the banks, if something goes wrong, you can report to a bank or something. Like, there's someone you can you you can get... Try to find a solution from. But, like, in in web three, if your wallet gets drained, bro, there's nobody there's nobody you can report the transaction to. Like, it is gone. It is gone. You you just... You can only see receipts. You don't know... You you can't trace it, like, except you know some elites, I don't know, investigators or something like Zach XPT or something. So my my my point is just, like, I don't know why people are not talking about the state of security in crypto because, like, it's really weird. If you're advising people to bring all the money they have in their banks, convert it to Bitcoin or something, at least where they are bringing it to should be, like, 10 times much more safer and much more reliable in terms of security. You know? Yeah. That's that's just... That's that's my thought on it.
[0:58:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. That's a great take, Justice. I think that's a great take. We definitely don't... Like, we don't... We know... We don't talk anywhere near enough. We barely talk about security out here.
[0:58:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So in regards to that, Justice, so that's kind of the whole point why the the banks coming in is kind of a big deal, especially for the the boomer generation. Right? Like, they they don't trust crypto at all, like, period. Right? They're they're not moving their their billions of dollars out of their banks, and
[0:58:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: they're just
[0:58:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: not gonna do it. But, you know, when JPMorgan and Citibank and Fidelity and BlackRock and, you know, just... There's a whole list now. Right? When when Bank of America and Wells Fargo Bank, you know, officially launched crypto services and offer to custody crypto for the boomers, right, where it's now connected to their bank accounts. So... Right? So they're gonna go on their their their app or whatever, go into the the bank, and they could just transfer within their own account. Right? Oh, go from my checking, put that money, put a $100 over here in my crypto, and, yeah, I wanna I I wanna gamble a little bit. You know? Because, I mean, come on. You you guys have seen how the boomers sit at those slot machines, you know, for 24 hours just pulling the... You know, pushing the slot machine. So, you know, they're gonna gamble too. Right? But you're exactly right. It's the security. Right? And I think that's what's gonna onboard a big chunk or... And a lot more people into crypto will be that. Because once they feel more comfortable with security where they're like, okay. I'm not gonna lose my millions or it's gonna... You know, at least I'll get, you know, insured on it or, you know, whatever the case is, then, yeah, that's gonna unlock a lot of money. And and also also in regards to that, I put up top Google searches for buy Bitcoin is now spiking, and that's kinda indicative of retail. Right? Because no one here is gonna put buy Bitcoin. You know, that... That's normies. Right? That's that's retail. That's the that's the the normies. Sonny's laughing. But that that is. That... That's the normies that basically similarly, like, oh, like, Bitcoin's at a 120? Oh, shit. I might I might wanna look at this. But I did
[1:00:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: post that. We heard CZ say it. Right? Gamer CZ was, like Yeah.
[1:00:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. CZ did it. Yeah. And and I did put something up top just for... Just to put something in the back of your head because I noticed that pretty much all the influencers, like, missed this by a lot... Like, no one talked about it. So it's regards to the genius stablecoin act. So everyone was cheering for this, but there is one section of it in particular that maybe people missed. And it says that a contentious part of the Genius Bill to some crypto users is a section that bans Stablecoin issuers, both foreign and regulated under US law, from giving holders interest or yield. So, essentially, what that means is the banks won, you know, the banks won that shit because no more yield, no more interest on your stablecoins.
[1:01:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: And and
[1:01:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Trump signed that...
[1:01:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Hold on. Mean......
[1:01:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bunch, alpha gamer, and and I went over this a lot. And Okay. Okay. Go for it. It's it's native yield. Be very specific.
[1:02:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Issue Yes. Word
[1:02:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: issue word. Yes. You're not getting native yield on USDT. I'm sorry. We already
[1:02:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: use No. It was USDT.
[1:02:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? Have... You are.
[1:02:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: D t, USDC, you don't get native yield on any of these.
[1:02:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. You do.
[1:02:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You don't get native yield.
[1:02:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do you mean? When you say native yield, if you're referring to Bitcoin No.
[1:02:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. No. Native yield is where you're just holding the stable coin in a wallet, and you are getting interest.
[1:02:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: On Coinbase, you get native yield, not the wallet.
[1:02:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not. It is not native yield. It is platform yield for holding it in your wallet. This is an advertisement. If you hold it noncustodial and it was native yield, it would get dropped to your noncustodial wallet. That's how you know it's not native yield. Tether has never paid out native yield. What they've done is they've shared yield with platforms to get use. So you'll go to the... They they even help finance. They help all of these. That's not native. Those are deals that are done. Native yield specifically, there is no... There's there's been coins that have tried native yield, and that's where... Okay. They're they're getting their payout for their for their treasuries that they hold. Right? Now that's not going to... If it was native, it would go to your wallet. That's what native yield is. This isn't borrowing......
[1:03:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Native yield?
[1:03:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Native yield is... Goes to the issuer. They're... For the backing of... So when you have... When they issue one to one, they're backing with treasuries. The yield generated from those treasuries goes to the issuer. That
[1:03:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: is Right.
[1:03:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's been the way it's been the entire time.
[1:03:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's Okay. That's native holder of that. Got it. Okay. So that's native yield is what you're saying. The native yield when you're on a Coinbase
[1:03:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yes.
[1:03:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Essentially, them sharing part of that yield if they feel like it with you.
[1:03:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. And now that this is passed good clarification. And and and I did... I haven't said this publicly, but now that this is passed, just so you know, alpha gamer, I was in DC to advise on some of this stuff. So that's where...
[1:04:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I was... I'm actually bullish on this, by the way.
[1:04:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, here... This is... One of the big things that everyone's making a big deal out of it, and I know that you're just reading kind of what's going on, but... And you understand this stuff too. But the problem is
[1:04:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah.
[1:04:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: That people are misconstruing this as somehow they were already getting native yield on any stable ever, and there's never been a yield bearing stable that's giving you native yield. Now it was tried... Looking at Justin Sun, he tried it with the first iteration of his stable to give native yield to noncustodial holders. What you find out very quickly is it does not work because everything that... You have a disconnect between the backing, the issuing, and the chain. So it's never been a good way to do it. So how do you generate yield? You generate yield through staking, and that is what they do not disallow. And this is what you're gonna see banks do, is they're gonna offer and partner with DeFi ecosystems for staking protocols. The bank will then offer you yield on holding those stable
[1:05:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's their earning. And savings.
[1:05:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: Right. That they're
[1:05:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: earning, and then they give you a piece of it. We're talking about when we had this convo of USDD, yeah, where Justin was like, 20%. Like, this is the... That's the convo we're referring to. Yeah?
[1:05:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: His first... I I don't remember what it is. Maybe Sunny or or Trav would be more familiar with this. But the first iteration of his stable that he did, he he was... The big thing that he was talking about offering that I don't think he ended up offering was native yield. So you just hold the token in your wallet. Doesn't have to be on a platform or staked or anything, and you're gonna get paid a yield based on the backing. And that was gonna be, like, basically a rev share. You're like, you're you're you're minting the stable, but then here's the problem is it's only for people who mint. So if at once... If I'm not the original minter of that stable, then I would no longer get the yield if I go and I spend it. Right? So this was the problem that he was running into because then you either pay everyone that's holding the the stablecoin yield or you pay the person who minted it because they're the one giving you the the the collateral to mint the stable with. Right? So so the issuer here is the one that gathers the yields. You have to have... You're either gonna pay everybody or you're gonna pay nobody, you have the issuer take it. The other reason why they wanna do this on the issuer side is because they have to spin up the the overcollateralization to buffer. And if they don't, and especially on the banking side, they're... They they have to collect that yield as a buffer because if they don't hold the peg, they're fucked, and they're all gonna have to compete with each other. This... I I actually view this as a loss for the banks because what the banks wanted to stick into this bill just so everyone's clear. You can go back and look at what the... What amend... Amendments were proposed by the banking lobby and some of the guys and gals who are, like, hooked in with the banking lobby. They wanted this to be managed by the Fed directly as oversight. So this would have created a CBDC. And what they have now is each issuer and each bank is gonna have to create their own or use a competitor's. And, yes, I know they're all Fed members, and they technically all kick up to the same system, but this is where it really... You really have to understand how this is changing the world because what they're gonna have to do is they're gonna have to compete. If Bank of America wants their own coin and Fidelity's got their own and Chase has got their own, right, now they have to compete to get your business. Hey. Come on over here. We are gonna offer you 4% on any cash you give us when
[1:07:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: you're in.
[1:07:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And that's why I'm bullish, Randy.
[1:07:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Of course. Yeah.
[1:07:58] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's perfect. Because the comp... Because the competition is is exactly that. Right? There... It's it's for... It... The the table has turned. Right? No longer can the banks use predatory practices on people, right, where they're, you know, getting 10 time... You know, taking your money, investing it, right, and then giving you freaking 0.000001 interest. You know?
[1:08:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Also, you know there's gonna find predatory ways to do this because what they're gonna do is know. Know. Hey. Here's the liquid stakes version of it. It's, like, rehypothecate a little bit.
[1:08:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then it's just... But but but that...
[1:08:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But the other reason... The other way I look at this too is is... You're exactly right. They're gonna have to go to DeFi. They're gonna have to go to DeFi to earn those yields. Right? And and, essentially, that's gonna make the DeFi sector just flourish, right, when all this stuff... You know? And and that's what I've been looking at, you know, the the big ones. Right? The Aves, the, you know, the big lenders and the, you know, the, you know, just, you know, the big DeFi protocols. Because I'm like, you know, like, the... Because because they've already been proven. Right? They've already been, like, tested. You know? They've they've all kinda hit the fan, and they're still here. Right? All all the shit ones have already, you know, gone gone to zero. Right? But but now, you know, we kinda know, like, okay. These are the top protocols that are still around, still surviving. But then also, yeah, like, the the yield part, the interest, they're gonna have to compete. And what does that mean for the user? They're they're gonna they're gonna have to raise their rates. They're not gonna they're not gonna onboard people with 0.1. Right? We're gonna be like, yeah, a big fuck you. You know what I mean? Gonna be like, dude, we're we're already we're already getting 7% on Solana. We're getting 3% on Ethereum. Like, what's the 0.1?
[1:09:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Percent on Hermetica.
[1:09:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Right. Hermetica. Right? And, like, we're gonna you know what I'm saying? So the so so the banks, they're they're gonna, you know, they're gonna have to give up their profits. You know, low... No longer can the freaking banks, you know, just be this profit making machine off of our backs. They're gonna have to give some of that back to to incentivize peep... Otherwise, their bank's gonna go under.
[1:10:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: My point.
[1:10:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's that's the alternative.
[1:10:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna push back just on one point is, trust me, they're not giving up any profits. They're just taking less than they could take because they're gonna be making way more profits now.
[1:10:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: They'll they'll just make it somewhere else.
[1:10:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Alright, boys. Let's let's put a bit in this one. But great. I love the discussion like this. And, Landy, thank you for the clarification. Really, really good stuff. I think that was necessary. And by the way, I found some ClearPool in my wallet, and I was like, ClearPool? Why do I remember ClearPool? Bro, I bought Clear... Like, I I looked at my transaction history. I bought ClearPool at literally the all time low. It was, like, $2.03. Things like 16ยข now. I I didn't have too many, but, hey, ClearPool is apparently one of these big big daddies in the credit market. So... And the and the lending market. So I want us to kinda, like, chat about this. Maybe maybe not on this page. Maybe another one. But, Emp, you have your hand up for a minute. Go for it.
[1:11:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Empress has her hand up.
[1:11:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. Fucking game.
[1:11:15] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Oh my Is it the end of the month? Is everybody's Adderall subs... Prescriptions run out? Did you all front run your your Adderall? Is that what's happening? Because we are all over the motherfucking map. Don't want run breads thing because somehow you went from sex to... Don't... I fell asleep.
[1:11:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Everything in that is gonna love this at first.
[1:11:37] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But... Yeah. So here here, I have a couple of thoughts. One, leave it to men folk. You start to normalize something completely unpalatable to the masses, and you're like, here. Hold my beer. Fuck it. Let's just add this to the fucking equation. This will be great. They think that crypto's full of grippers, scammers, and thieves. Let's add sex to the whole equation. I mean, sex sells. Don't get me wrong. But, like, could we, like, get established before we, like, max profit? I mean, at least I'm gonna wait until I retire and cash out and then open the brothel in Thailand and have run my bitches or whatever. They'll be there voluntarily just so everybody does.
[1:12:14] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Wait. Wait.
[1:12:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Need... I want the job. No. No. Gamer. Gamer. No. Don't you dare. Don't you dare step on her
[1:12:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: right now.
[1:12:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. And, Brisko.
[1:12:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But on top of that, while while we understand the questionability of the whole sex trade, and that's cool. Again, not traffic. They'll be there voluntarily. Could we maybe not include felony fantasies in the prompts for the thing? Because I don't know if anybody watched that virtual thing up there, but a cow in a luxury hotel room as the virtual prompt
[1:12:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. That meant cowgirl. No, girl. Don't watch it on
[1:12:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the board.
[1:12:49] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No. That's not what they wrote. That's not what they wrote.
[1:12:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: And No. I know. But that's what they meant.
[1:12:53] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Portland. I'm in Portland, and I know what a polycule is, and I know what the fat life is, and I understand BDSM culture. So I'm sorry. I don't believe you. I think they meant a cow in a luxury room.
[1:13:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I just want
[1:13:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: people to know.
[1:13:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're on that line. No way. What's hell? Screaming.
[1:13:08] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Also, if anybody is curious, the majority of assholes in this space posted their own BDSM results under my pinned tweet because I think they thought that would get them somewhere. I use it as a great profiling tool. It's I approach a lot of men in this space, and I know how they work in tic. The link is there too if you're curious about your own insights. Thank you for my time.
[1:13:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: She knows how you move, bitches. Wait, Brett. Can you clarify something? It's not AI generated sex, is it? Or...
[1:13:34] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. That... From my understanding
[1:13:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: is Oh. Oh. Wait. What is it with the kid?
[1:13:40] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Could we include the non... Like, you know, like, can we at least just make it a little more tame? The housewife doesn't need to compete with the cow.
[1:13:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So so to be more tame, are you saying, like, with an optimist bot or... Confused.
[1:13:55] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. Like, you know, just leave it to keep the cows on onlyfarmers.com. You know?
[1:13:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. They... Why didn't they have to write cow? They could've just wrote cowgirl. Know You what I mean? Like, that's crazy.
[1:14:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: I just think that, like... Yeah. The marketing campaign,
[1:14:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, they were, like, full send, I guess. Like, fuck it.
[1:14:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: Like, those videos are... It's not... I mean, it's not hard to see what's happening there behind the censorship. You know
[1:14:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: what I mean?...
[1:14:16] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Was about aliens. The next prompt was about... Look. I don't wanna yuck yums. I'm not here to to keep... Kink shame whatever else, and that is a legal way for you to get what you need.
[1:14:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: But maybe let's get the
[1:14:26] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: normies onboarded before we scare the fuck out of them. Can we just do that? Maybe. Maybe?
[1:14:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Listen, guys. We have a motto here. We listen, but we don't judge. It's what we've always... We've been doing it for four
[1:14:38] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: years. I judge on a lot of things. I don't yuck your down.
[1:14:40] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's bummer. Only judge in the DMs is where
[1:14:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the judging
[1:14:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: comes. Yeah.
[1:14:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. We'll judge
[1:14:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: you in the DMs, but not publicly. Right? Like, exact... We won't shame you publicly.
[1:14:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Well, I don't know. Because, know, it got a
[1:14:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100 and...
[1:14:49] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'll say it to your face. I won't do it behind your
[1:14:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: back. Well, it's got a 110,000 views in five hours.
[1:14:55] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Well, I think...
[1:14:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You're doing something right. Thank you. I might might I might wanna... I don't know. I might throw some something. You know?
[1:15:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I would throw. I'm ready to throw... I'm ready to bet the... Every... Like, if it's not nailed to the floor, everything with the kitchen sink out here. Listen to me.
[1:15:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Woah. Woah. Woah. I'm not trying to sell a kitchen.
[1:15:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen.
[1:15:11] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, hang on. There's already... Dave, there's already a prediction market on how long it's gonna go before they banned or pull it for public pressure.
[1:15:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Why though? Yeah. Why? Probably just take it down.
[1:15:20] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I don't know, Dave. Maybe because instead of just putting normal sex prompts for the AI bot, they went with cows and aliens. I don't know. Maybe that would
[1:15:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: be reason. That's gonna be the reason. No. I've even
[1:15:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: They were targeting NFT culture, I think.
[1:15:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen to me. I think... Well, the fact is they have
[1:15:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: six fucking lucky you didn't say stick figure out. I fucking lost my shit.
[1:15:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Hey. You should be can. I mean, go
[1:15:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: check out the platform.
[1:15:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay? Empress, don't post you. These these folks don't deserve your feedback. Don't post Wait.
[1:15:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Is that a m effort on the video feed for that shit? No.
[1:15:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Chill. Chill. Gamer, chill. So listen. Listen. Listen. The fact that it's blurred out... Let me let let me tell you all something. Okay? There is an only fan shaker. Her name escapes my brain right now, but I I forgot what she's got. Not Sydney Sweeney. I forgot who... Not
[1:16:06] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: It probably it probably just says crypto, and then it...
[1:16:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. She made 40... She's the highest, but she made 42,000,000 in a year. Never...
[1:16:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, Sophie Rain.
[1:16:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sophie Rain. There you go. Thank
[1:16:16] Bread @_ToastMalone: you. Sophie Rain. Yeah.
[1:16:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: How did she make? $40,000,000.
[1:16:19] Bread @_ToastMalone: I... Yeah. I read it in fucking Forbes.
[1:16:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, there
[1:16:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: you go. Like, yeah. She made,
[1:16:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: like, a crazy amount of money on that fucking...
[1:16:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: One year, she's done. She never took off a single article of clothing. And I say that because when you blur out images like they're doing up there, you know what that does? Drive hype. Because Neanderthals like me and the rest of us fucking imbeciles are looking at it, we're going, I wonder what that looks like without the blurred lines.
[1:16:41] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: No shit. That's why the bartenders get more attention than the strippers. Haven't you ever been to a strip club? Jesus. Pay attention.
[1:16:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Rule number one is you never go to pick up the bartender. That's, like, literally, like, unwritten rule one zero one of, like, going to... And I don't do strip clubs. I hate strip clubs. There's so much pressure.
[1:16:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That that is true, though. Yeah. You never... Yeah. That's like the unspoken man man law. You never go for the bar tender
[1:17:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: ever.
[1:17:05] Bread @_ToastMalone: Or the strippers, guys.
[1:17:07] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Don't do it.... Say, are you idiots actually hitting on anybody that works in that? The... Good job getting rinsed. I just wanna say mostly I'm salty because my feet pics are posted up top, and I should have gotten in contact with virtuals. Apparently, I could've made a lot of money. I'm bitter about it.
[1:17:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You should censor those.... Love me.
[1:17:25] Voice I: Oh, you
[1:17:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: should blur them out, empress.
[1:17:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: You said you really love me.
[1:17:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Dude, guys would pay all kinds of money for that. I'm telling you.
[1:17:33] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Dude, bartenders are great catches. They like me, and they make me great...
[1:17:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That sounds like coma.
[1:17:40] Sunny D @dylN0chill: And they also oftentimes
[1:17:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: can cook.
[1:17:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait, Sunny. Did you lended a bartender or strip club? I'm... I guess I've... I'm just kinda noticing it now as we're talking about it,
[1:17:54] Sunny D @dylN0chill: but I've dated a number of bartenders and picked them up. So I must have a superpower.
[1:18:00] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: It's called you're a DJ. That's part of the life. Oh.
[1:18:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Has any of you ever,
[1:18:07] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: you know, socialized before in
[1:18:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: your is hilarious.
[1:18:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't even put two and two together. Wait.
[1:18:12] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. That sounds terrifying. No.
[1:18:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're spinning the records, obviously, and you're like, Emerald Diamond, stage center... Stage two. Of course. Like, they see you every day. You're, like, in their life.
[1:18:24] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I don't DJ fucking strip club. Motherfucker be winking in
[1:18:27] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: every chick. I pick this one especially for you, and then the next chick, and I pick this one especially for you.
[1:18:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And he's like, see, like, look at this scratch. See how my fingers move?
[1:18:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. K, man. I miss you so much, man. I know I said it a few times. You need to come back, dude. This is crazy. The puppet jokes are getting old. You know what I mean? Look at them. She's getting shorter and shorter, this guy. I I don't even see him anymore. I don't know what the hell he is. Puppet jokes, technically dad jokes. Technically. Yeah. Exactly. We don't get this level. But look at those sunglasses. Look deep into my eyes. Alright. What else? Y'all see it on the timeline. We got five minutes before the puppet leaves. Landy, anything before you go?
[1:19:11] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I just wanna say Landy's been the master of doom. Whenever I hit him up about hyper liquid anymore, he scares the fuck out of me. It's not fun. He's not a security blanket. He does that service for other people. But for me, he's like, listen. You might get wrecked, which is just not cool because I I think that already about everything. So...
[1:19:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: Alright. Alright. Hey. I have
[1:19:36] Bread @_ToastMalone: a question about Hyperliquid, actually. I mean, do... Have they picked up more than, like, what was it, four or six validators that they had?
[1:19:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: 14 now. Hey. We discussed this a couple...
[1:19:44] Bread @_ToastMalone: Hey. There we go.... Validator.
[1:19:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. It's
[1:19:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: not important if not
[1:19:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: one So goes you can't figure out your... Wait.
[1:19:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Are you are you serious about that? They only got 14? Really?
[1:19:55] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. It'd be possible because kinetics aren't by themselves have 16. So I don't know what y'all are talking about. Kinetics...
[1:20:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was straight from the puppet, by the way, when somehow mysteriously disappeared.
[1:20:06] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Then I really don't understand what a validator is because before K Hype launched, there were 16 validators in Kinetics, so that doesn't track. See what I mean?
[1:20:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: When you say in Kinetic, it just means, like, if it's on chain. Like, it's not in Kinetic. Like, the validators are are on
[1:20:23] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: the chain. When you went to... I meant when you went to their site. Right? Before k Hype even launched, there were 16 validators.
[1:20:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I never... Maybe it's up from Fortune. Okay. Yeah. Maybe it's
[1:20:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: from Fortune.
[1:20:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So so you know...... 51...
[1:20:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: That was pre pay hype.
[1:20:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, okay. So fifth...
[1:20:41] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm saying the play might
[1:20:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: be buying a validator for that network while they're cheap and there's... They need...
[1:20:46] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: But I'm saying you guys started talking about this weird, like, scarcity number of validators after the k hype launch. But prior to the k hype launch, you could already see 16 validators on the k... Kineto
[1:20:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: side. Just FYI, if they said 30 validators, we'd still be laughing. If they said 50 validators, we'd still be laughing. You know what I mean? So just FYI, it's just......
[1:21:05] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Confused at the the the timing is why I was confused. Anyway... Okay.
[1:21:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Hold on. I don't think it's it's timing as much as as it is 51%. But... Yeah. Yeah.
[1:21:17] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I don't know what the fuck that means. He's mathing me again. Goddamn
[1:21:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. No. No. No.
[1:21:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh. Oh, my bad. 50...
[1:21:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: Numbers are hard. Don't don't worry about it.
[1:21:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Damn. Convert numbers into letters.
[1:21:28] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I'm still making I'm sorry. I don't know if you'd, like, met me, but I, like, trade on culture, and I've got into hyperliquid. Very nice to meet you, Empress, by the way. I just thought you should know that Vlad, I, like, saw him tweeting, and he looked like a psychopath to me. And I thought there's never been a rich white guy that is a total sociopath that hasn't made people money, and that's why I bought Hyperliquid. I don't math.
[1:21:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: Perfect. I mean, yeah, like like me, Empress is new here.
[1:21:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. That... That's great because because that that would be the the complete opposite of me because I'm a engineer, math and science guy. And, yeah, I'm, like, the total introvert, don't understand human interaction at all. And Here we go. So so so that would actually be perfect for for me and you because then I could do all the math and science, and you could do all the social sentiment interaction. So that's awesome.
[1:22:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: Are you guys flirting, or what the what the hell is going on here?
[1:22:24] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Just say, are trying to, like, ask her out, or are you trying to have her, like, start, like, a VC firm?
[1:22:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Simba Dum, this is great. I love this dichotomy. We give everybody, like, both both sides of the spectrum.
[1:22:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. No. No. No. I just... I I respect it one way or the other... One way or the other. I just wanna know.
[1:22:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Empress is gonna rinse you on the how you move side, and then Gamer's gonna rinse you on the I math better than you side. And then, hopefully, everything in between is stuff that people can learn. Yeah.
[1:22:50] Kkoma @itskkoma: And Dave will get jealous. That's that's the the last part. Yeah.
[1:22:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Obviously. Obviously. The amount of people in my DMs that are like, I can't see your space right now.
[1:22:58] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Sorry. Literally, that anybody is talking about game with a guy who led the conversation with... I was on a date with Wendy and Cali. So clock yourselves, you idiots. Anyway, moving forward. Hi, Coma.
[1:23:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Thank you. Thank you, Wendy. I... For pointing that out, by the way.
[1:23:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He makes it a point. He didn't tell us until we're very late in his career. He's like, you know what she used to say, gamer? Came in here flexing. That was me. It's like, okay. Now we get the social off.
[1:23:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. And none of y'all believe me, by the way.
[1:23:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nobody said a word. That's all the spaces. No. Don't bring that. Don't put that on us. None of us said that ever at all.
[1:23:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Sure. What the fuck is happening? Coma. Here. Hi, Coma.
[1:23:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cabs are here. GT... You guys ready to GTL or what? Is it... Wait. Is that a reference to me? I'm down.
[1:23:49] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You know what? Fine, Koma. Go fuck yourself. I've told to say... Said hello to Koma, like, two times. Yeah.
[1:23:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn, Koma.
[1:23:54] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. What the fuck?
[1:23:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: How is
[1:23:55] Kkoma @itskkoma: this my fault? And every time I try to respond, alpha gamers has, like, some, like, something to say in between. So I just Yeah.
[1:24:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? I'm trying
[1:24:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: to be respectful here. Cap's here.
[1:24:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, comma. That's not what you... The Cap's here. That's not what you do, comma. You don't do respectful. You're like, hey. You follow direction. When I'm like, hey. Everybody talk. This is, like, an open conversation, and you're like, hey. Fuck you guys with your hands raised. I'm talking. That's what Gamer does. He literally doesn't even pay attention to anything I say ever. It's his show, apparently. We did talk about sex and virtuals. I will say this. I will talk about this really quick. You will not.
[1:24:27] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: You will shut up. Coma has unmuted his mic 14 times. It's fucking insane. Sorry.
[1:24:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead. Alright. Sorry. Go ahead, Coma.
[1:24:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And who was cutting him off? Yeah.
[1:24:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, gamer.
[1:24:38] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hello. Nice to meet you. My name is Coma, and I'm an act... I mean, I'm a degen, and Hyperliquid is good. Yeah. Yeah. That's all I gotta say. I will say, though, one thing about Hyperliquid is, you know how they always say the next Bitcoin? I I... The reason why I don't think Hyperliquid's gonna fail is they... Like, too many too many new projects that are saying that they're gonna be the next Hyperliquid, and none of them are. So I'll just leave it at that. And I'm sidelined on
[1:25:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a very good point.
[1:25:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I'm sidelined on Hyperliquid. So, you know, me admitting that makes no difference.
[1:25:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're not. We bridged over our $200. Might be Yeah. Focus. You know, it's sitting in wall.
[1:25:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm deep in hyperliquid. Never mind.
[1:25:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. We just never looped it. Loop de loop. I will say this real quick. You guys remember we had tunnel in here. Right? So I tell y'all every day, I'm literally doing a different tunnel fucking... What's it called? Every single day. I did learn about, like, some cool new protocols. Some of them were nonsense. Not nonsense, but some of them were... But here's what I will say. Like, the ones that... Like, the the the the... What's it called? Like, I'm I'm accepting every deal. Right? Like, $70, $60, $80, like, $40. Like, I don't care. Right? I put my own spin on it at the end of the day, meaning, like, not spin, but ultimately, like, I put my... Myself in the post. But I get to learn about, like, a bunch of different things. I learned about... What was this one called? Hold on. Give me one second. Let me just pull up the profile because I just put... I just pinned this... I just posted this up. I'm gonna pin it up here as well. It was... I said all coin season here. BionicDow. Apparently, this is, a new, like, indicator where they're taking all of these different scores, and they're talking about, like, community sentiment, hype. Right? Like, there's a whole formula. Say what you will at the end of the day. Right? But this is now allowing me to meet new potential clients, but also, like, maybe some of this shit actually works. Right? If they're not pushing a token... Right? Some of... The majority of them are. Right? But at the end of... Later, Landy. Thank you, bro. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. A lot of them are, like... I mean, let them push a token, but at the end of the day, it's like, what if some of this shit's actually useful? And I started using some of these things, and I'm like, wow. Like, the worst case... In the worst case scenario, use it as, like, one of your lagging lagging indicators and, like, just go touch base and see, like, what's what if you're trading within that given ecosystem. Solana, base, wherever it... Like, wherever the fuck it is. Like, to me, these are... This is no brainer stuff. Make money. Be put onto new protocols or protocols that have maybe existed that you've never heard of, and then next thing you know, it's like, oh, shit. Look at this. Like, I don't know. To me, this is no brainer shit, but, like, tunnel... These tunnel guys are cooking. Morgan's cooking. And, yeah, we're hopefully gonna become an affiliate of these tunnel boys soon because I'm now talking to Kyle, who is the other cofounder. So shout out to Morgan and the tunnel crew out there, man. Come on. Go for it.
[1:27:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: $70 is a pretty good rate, by the way, for tunnel. Like, it's not a... Like like, some people I know, they're, getting, 10, 15, or something. So I don't know, Dave. Yeah. You got some good formula working for your account. So
[1:27:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think it's early. I think... I... You know what it is? I think it's early coma, and that was from Folks Finance, by the way. 71 for 1, 77 for another. There's some I did for 33, others I did for, like, 80. So, like, it it really, really varies depending on, obviously, like, the budget that they have. But, look, at the end of the day, like, I get the I get the Telegram notification. I'm like, yo. Boom. Boom. Like, claim. Fifteen minutes later, there's another one that comes in. Claim. I have 24 to do this. Why would... Like, late at night before I'm going to sleep, I'm just like, literally copy paste GPT. Let me see this. Let me read it. Let me go to the platform, see what this is about. I create a funny image. Cool. I create a quick little screen recording, but I learn at the same time. Like, I don't know. To me, like, comma, this is this is no brainer shit to me, bro.
[1:28:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. And, I mean, I know I got a thousand Yaps, but on the other competitor side, Yap Market, I also got a thousand Kaido total of campaigns I've done. So, yeah, I think there's definitely opportunities outside of just, like, you know, some leaderboard or things like that. And I'd say just take any advantage that you can. You know, obviously, do your own research and make sure you're not promoting any scammy stuff. I've I've said no a lot of times as well. So... Yeah. Actually, I have a quick question for Empress. Do you... Like, can you give me any alpha about project x? Like, I know I've... I I see a lot of it on timeline, but do people on the hyper liquid, like, behind the scenes, are they, like, bullish on it, or are they just kinda, like, neutral? Like, what's the what's the vibe there? Like, are people trying to farm a shit ton of points? Because it's, the same guys from, like, the blast days. Right? So
[1:29:14] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. I don't... I... It's gotten mixed things. I haven't seen a whole lot of hype about it because it it just... It wasn't what people expected, I don't think. And then some people have, like, I I...
[1:29:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: How do
[1:29:29] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: I say this the right way? I... I'm not even trying to be diplomatic. I'm trying to be concise. That... The founders that found PacMoon, Lambo and the other guy or whatever, they are heavily entrenched with the OG KOLs like Kook. And Kook brought Wizard of Soho over for the first meme coin, gripped over on Hyperliquid, and they quickly got chased the fuck out. Hyperliquid is really anti OG KOL, and so I think that it's had mixed reception be... Due to all of the, like, ties there and how it got pushed out there. And the space that it got launched through was OG KOLs, including pushing it. So it... The culture's just really adverse to that. So I think that's why it's been very mixed is the only way I can answer that. I have not myself participated, really.
[1:30:21] Kkoma @itskkoma: Cool. That's all I need to know. Thanks.
[1:30:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Anybody familiar with Milo on chains?
[1:30:32] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah. He's a long time follower.
[1:30:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Really?
[1:30:36] ๐‘ฌ๐‘ด๐‘ท๐“‡๐‘’๐“ˆ๐“ˆโ‹ฎ @Hope_ology: Yeah.
[1:30:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: No shit. Okay. I like that. Okay. Yeah. We got we got some stuff to talk about. Cool. Yeah. Cool. Anything else from you, my bro? I know you you got a lot going on over there. Just curious. Anything anything on your side you wanna add, bro?
[1:30:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No. Nothing. Nothing. I don't know. Can you guys hear me?
[1:30:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We got you, bro.
[1:31:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. My mic, yeah, I'm having issues all day. I've just been dropping all back and forth. So, yeah, nothing nothing much, man. Just simple simple. Watch the markets. Watching for new opportunities, man. That's it. Nothing... I don't think nothing new from my side. I know we have a
[1:31:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: lot of a lot of
[1:31:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: new protocols coming out, union union build, whatever they announced their, you know, snapshot for their, you know, season zero. They took a snapshot for, like, the past two years, man, and they... I I made it, of course. It's it's pretty cool. But, yeah, just a a lot of new pro... Protocols coming out. It's it's TGE season, man. TGE season this month and next month and month after. It just... There's so many projects in the pipeline waiting to TGE. So I'm just trying to make sure I catch I catch the wave, man. That's it.
[1:31:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Got you. I just thought I'll leave you guys with this. And great great, great space today, guys. I I feel like... I mean, I love the, obviously, the DeFi conversation, the native yield conversation. Gamer, you always add an incredible amount of value when you come here, man. So I genuinely hope you do come back. And, Chris, obviously, you, but I'll leave you guys with this story. Listen to this headline. TVs might be the next big thing in DeFi. It says telecom billionaire error. If we can embed secure user friendly DeFi access into everyday experiences like watching TV, we unlock a new path to scale. We don't gotta get into that now, but I'm just gonna leave you out with that one. So appreciate obviously everybody coming through. That's a wild headline. Empress, thank you for the cohost and stepping in for real. Bread resisted. Cool. Thank you, Bread. Appreciate you. Gamer as always, Sunny d. Thank you. Stallion, thanks. Guru, bro, that's the... This is the last time. That's it. This is the last this is the last of it. Come, I see you down there. Appreciate you, everybody else that tuned in. Matasco, see you. Stake it. Vince, Bildo, Trav. You know, shout out to the Think team. They had their TGE today. That should open up at, like, eight... Nine almost... Ran up to almost 10ยข, couple $100,000,000 market cap. So don't sleep on the Think boys. Yeah, man. And if you don't have your dot ETH e n s domain alpha gamer, send me your ETH wallet, by the way. We are essentially putting content up and gating content with ENS domains, bro. So full recaps. I'll share some stuff with you, my man. I'm looking forward to it. And, yeah, hope everybody else has a great one. Let's go. Have a good one, guys. Peace.
[1:33:17] Voice I: See you.
[1:33:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I gotta let that one go. That's, a five. Nope. Nobody's gonna hear that, Brad. Sorry.

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