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Episode · Jul 28, 2025 ·

All Things Crypto: Utility? Is PayPal accepting crypto good or bad?

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Summary

0:04:00

Banter Kicks Off ATC Monday

Dave shared his Sky Zone injury story and apologized to Sunny D for missing the ENS and webhash space. The group discussed making money in real crypto ecosystems instead of chasing hype. Sunny D recapped his space with bullish commentary on Justin Sun, while Empress told a wild story about Oregon racism and seal walking.

0:04:00Opening banter, and community welcomes

0:07:48Mop to earn, puff to earn, and ridiculous meta trends

0:13:38

Tokenizing Sites and Calling Out Farmers

Landy and Dave explored tokenizing websites for revenue sharing and real business models versus content plays. Dave proposed a Less Things Crypto Friday space for the crew to goof off. Kkoma called out large account Skyline for content farming and spreading misinformation, then shared how smaller creators fear confronting big accounts.

0:28:41Strategies to hurt bad actors’ algorithms

0:33:37

Farcaster Base Chat and Tornado Cash Risks

Moni asked Empress about Farcaster now that the Base app is gaining traction. Landy noted leaderboard systems are easily gamed with astroturfing. The group covered Tornado Cash closing arguments and the precedent risks for open source developers, with Kool warning it could hurt privacy tools.

0:50:05

PayPal Crypto Payments Debate

Dave announced PayPal launched Pay with Crypto supporting over 100 coins including meme coins via wallets like MetaMask and Binance. Kool called it a necessary evil that brings mainstream adoption but carries centralized risks. Moni and a speaker highlighted past PayPal account locks and how it could serve as an onramp for underbanked users before they move to onchain.

1:03:31

Yield Features Ray Dalio and Base News

Dave highlighted one click yield on Aave via MetaMask for USDC, USDT and DAI, with Landy praising passive income and hiding the wires. Kool explained inflation dangers and why Bitcoin and gold protect wealth, citing rising home and car costs. A speaker praised Ray Dalio's 15 percent Bitcoin gold allocation view due to US debt, while noting Billy Betts raised 1M led by Coinbase Ventures after moving to Base.

Key quotes

“I'm over here making money, and you can too by participating in the crypto ecosystems and not buying trash, but instead looking at projects that are trying to build real shit that has value on chains where you can stake and earn.”

Landy0:05:22Share on X

“It's gonna be a less things crypto space. And I actually thought it'd be great on the promo side, because they can just get to fuck around.”

Dave0:18:04Share on X

“This is Ross Ulbricht part two. Could carry up to forty five years in prison... If they lose this case, that is not a good thing for privacy.”

Dave0:38:15Share on X

“It's a necessary evil, bro. It's just the way the game is played. Web two is becoming Web three, and then Web three becoming Web two is all gonna be a blend.”

Kool0:53:00Share on X

“We don't live in reality. This is all in our imaginations. Enjoy it.”

Landy0:59:55Share on X

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