ATC: All Things Crypto

# ATC: All Things Crypto | 2025-09-02 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1dRKZazYvbbxB | status: approved
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[0:03:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Shytown. The tanks are coming to your town
[0:03:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: sent by Trump. What's good, everybody? Happy Tuesday.
[0:03:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: Because I fucked
[0:03:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: it up in the last space, I am
[0:03:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: not gonna fuck it up
[0:03:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: in this space. What's up? Hope everybody's doing good. I'm flowing right now. I feel like I got the juices going in the last d five for dummy space. Shout out to Empress and Groot. Landy, thank you, Samar, for coming through. That was dope. We started off foray into the Hyperliquid ecosystem with Hyperbeat, which is fucking awesome. Totally, totally cracked fucking dev and founder in Hitachi, so it was really, really awesome. Appreciate it. It was great. Yeah. So thanks everybody that came through and supported that one. But ATC time, bitches. World Liberty Financial's here. I got leveraged longs. I hope I'm not gonna get liquidated. Nat Nat's gonna tell me how she has the other side of my trade, and then Landy's gonna follow it up by telling me how he has the other side of my trade. We'll see what happens. But, cool. What's up, bro?
[0:04:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Jim, Jim. I I guess you're you're guys doing okay. Yes. Yes. It was a holiday, so we need also show, so it was good. We need need a small break. Yeah. Good. Good. I I just... You know, big old sort of people that's still winning. I just saw one of the guys not coming to me. He just claimed a $100,000 in all insomnia. And I think... So... What's his name? I think... I forgot. My brain is tripping. But, yeah, I'm I'm just happy. I'm happy I'm seeing people win around us, and your win is coming to... This through here. So let's go.
[0:04:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. We gotta talk about this stuff. We gotta get... I hope Coma comes in here because we gotta chat with Coma. Monica, get your ass up here. Nat Nat, what's good? How was your weekend?
[0:04:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: It was good. It was good. Sorry. I... I'm speaking with the locals. I'm with the baby, and he's sleeping. Anybody wake my baby up? That's three hundred. You guys got me. Okay. I'm kidding. I mean, I've had a good day, a great weekend, vibing out. And, yes, I do have the opposite side of your trade, but we can dive into that later if you want.
[0:05:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: What the fuck? This is crazy to work out here. What the fuck? Sorry, baby. Whatever. Landy, what's up? Why am I whispering? Landy, what's up?
[0:05:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hello. Happy Kittles' Day. I'm glad to be here at the macroeconomic symposium where we'll be discussing the bond market and how short Nat and I are in the market against Dave's long. And I appreciate everybody showing up today. We'll be getting done... We'll be getting started shortly and probably finish very shortly after I start really getting into it because Dave's gonna be like, nope.
[0:05:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is anyone gonna clock the short... Lee, short short short... More short from the short guy, the short puppet? Anyone gonna clock? Nobody.
[0:06:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm I'm ready to go I'm ready to go long. I'm ready to get those those leg extensions. I'm I'm waiting for a long... Yeah. I'm I'm I'm picking my spot, though. I'm being patient.
[0:06:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's fucking go. Em, what's cooking? Great space just now.
[0:06:20] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: I need Landy to check his DMs. Like, my my great wallet caper is never ending, and otherwise,
[0:06:28] Moni @monitalan: we chilling.
[0:06:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: AKA, I like what Emperor says. Fuck it. We ball. Duh.
[0:06:35] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: I'm not saying that. I'm not getting charged.
[0:06:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, my my... That's a good point. It's a good point. I am the host on the other hand when
[0:06:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: the baby's...... Minutes in $400. Need...
[0:06:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. When the baby's sleeping, like, there there is no... There can't be no fine... There's a rule... That's a rule, Nat. You didn't get that memo? Brad, what's good, bro?
[0:06:53] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. GM gang, you know, just getting ready. Shit, dude. We got, like, two days left, and we we start getting NFL until February, bro. Like, it's about to it's about to pop off, man. So, yeah, just just stoked. It was a great space you had the last space. I had to dip a little bit early out of it, but, very informative. Definitely something to listen to twice or maybe three times. It's like one of those movies you watch, and it didn't make any sense at all the first time. And then you go back, and you're like, oh, I get it now. Each tick is a full day on Earth. That's crazy. Right? So, yeah, stoked, stoked to have today's conversation here, though.
[0:07:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I'm the dummy that they're talking about? Yes. But don't worry. I'm gonna break it down. I get it. Like, digesting that information in the space is super tough. Space is... Like, retaining any information from a tourist space is really difficult. So that's why I think what I do is massively valuable. So don't worry. Like, I'm literally gonna break down threads, audiograms. Like, we got this covered. Justice is up here. She's like the like the audiogram killer. You kidding me? Like, we won't... We gonna cut this up nice. Amp now or or do I finish intros?
[0:08:08] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: You finish intros, and then I'll go after.
[0:08:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Cool. Samara, what's good?
[0:08:14] Samara @thee_samara: Hey, yo, Jim. Jim, Dave. Jim, cool. Jim, Nat, Nat, Empress, Landy, Justice, aka Adrian. Sunny here. I see you. Monica, good shout out to you guys, man. Yeah. Jim, Jim, we're here for the alpha, for the news, for everything. So, yeah, all the script too. So, yeah, shout out to you guys, man. That's good.
[0:08:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go, Samara. Good shit. Thank you for being here, bro. Appreciate you. He said Adrian Justice. Justice, it's weird. It's weird, Justice. We don't know. Like, you you you you justice pilled us, and then you swapped us for Adrian. What are we doing?
[0:08:52] Voice I: We we...
[0:08:57] Voice I: Bro, at at this point, man, anyone anyone can call me whatever it is that... I mean, just to insult people. You're afraid to call me. Whatever whatever name comes comes to anyone's mind, but, yeah, it's it's good to... Oh, man. It's it's been a while since I stepped on this stage, and it's not essentially my fault. I have school that has been killing me. But, yeah, I I think I'm back today, and, yeah, it's it's it's good to hear everyone live. I've been listening to all of the g's backstage through the audiograms and all all of the arguments on who is taking shots against someone else's long positions, but it's all good. It's all good. Yeah. Justice
[0:09:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: has the receipts, you fuck... Like, you people. Alright? Justice has the receipts. Alright? So she will know what's what. I'll tell you right now. And, Justice, I'll say it again. I owe you a massive thank you. Like, we're... Like, working with you has been such a breeze. You've made my life so much easier, like, legit. I can't... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for every single thing and the work that you put in. I know you have school and everything else. You somehow managed to juggle it, but I'm somehow gonna throw more on your plate. I promise I'll pay you more, but we're figure this out because, like, I need you. I need more of you. I need... Yeah. We're gonna have to grow this empire, so let's go. Monica, what's up?
[0:10:16] Moni @monitalan: Hello. Hello. I spent my afternoon making a list of women in CT because it seems people can't find us. So I was like, okay. Here's the list. If if anybody wants to be added, let me know. If you're a woman, by the way, only a woman. But, hey, Ethos may actually create a leaderboard out out of it. He reached out to me, so we'll see. Could be cool.
[0:10:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, Adrian. If there was a Justice, maybe. You might be able to make it, but I feel Justice would make it. But, Adrian, I guess it's 2025, whatever. I'll let you slide. And real quick, let's see what's up, guys. I did invite... Yo, Bingus, I totally forgot, but I... Guys, I thought this was, like, the the the... One of the funniest memes I've ever seen. Bingus, give us a quick intro, bro, and tell us, like, who you are without the shield because I will... I'll I'll teach you kinda how the... How things roll here, but just give us a quick intro on you, man. Welcome.
[0:11:09] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Totally, Dave. Thank you so much for inviting and for hosting. Cool. Nat Nat. Again, thanks for hosting as well. Let's see. I I joined, really got involved a little bit into crypto in '21, maybe, like, in the ninth inning. I was, like, in nana and then reentered, in q four of twenty three on the bond trade just through, like, a WhatsApp. But he's, like, texting me, hey. It's time. You know, fire up the wallet. And kinda just wrote... Started rotating and and really wasn't in crypto Twitter until, like like, March, April of of twenty four. Got into PopCat, WIF, and kinda ran ran through that and got involved in that community. And about seven weeks ago, discovered Unstablecoin. So, you know, I can kind of give you a little bit of history on that. But that's more or less my... Been my journey. It's been swan of memes. Done a little bit of perks trading, on on Fartcoin and others. And and... But but totally, like, my mindset is I'm I'm, you know, mirage disciple. I believe in community coins with good distribution, you know, really delusional holders. And so that's kind of my background and my my thesis.
[0:12:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. Bingus, welcome. Samara, you're welcome, number one. Bingus, you're gonna get to know Samara. My man my man runs these trenches out here. So, yeah, I'm excited for you for you to chat. Bingus, I'm gonna set aside some time towards the end of the show, but feel free to hang out with us. Like, the way we run this is we just go over news, highlights, headlines, market, like, market talk, anything that, like, anybody here on stage. Obviously, like, this is a super eclectic group. We come from a bunch of different ecosystems. Everybody's playing around in a different one, And we just kinda throw our heads together, go over some stuff, and hopefully people walk away kinda learning some shit. You know? We're just trying to educate some folks. But I'll give you a few minutes at the end if you have time to hang out with us. And, yeah, you can give us a quick, like, you know, five minute chill at the end. Is that cool?
[0:13:11] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Love it. Well, hey. Thanks, Dave.
[0:13:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. For sure. And go for it.
[0:13:18] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Oh, no. Landy just burst my bubble. We're gonna have to talk about this in here though because it's a safety thing for everybody. But that's not... We can do that in a second. Did you know that Joseph and I might be the only same people outside of this space? Somebody released an extensive list of paid KOLs, and Adrian happened to be the co host of the space that I went into. And I listened to KOLs themselves, but what was really disturbing is throngs of people being KOL apologists for how rough their life is and how things needed to be understood. And then a whole bunch of gaslighting. To be clear, my stance is this, Get your bag. I ain't the cops. Do what you gotta do. That said, if you're not disposing, I'm still gonna sit out here and say, hey. Those KOLs have aloe. They're dumping on your freaking head. They're not disposing they have aloe, And I'm entitled to educate just as they're entitled to do the background crap that they do. But shout out to Adrian because we were the only two in this space that weren't going, oh, poor little KOL. There was a whole lot of they deserve. They did it. And I'm like, what? Why? Nobody else deserves anything. We all trade. So I don't really understand that that KOL apologist mindset, to be honest.
[0:14:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: Can
[0:14:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: I just say something real quick? Going through those wallets, those KOLs cheated for so little money. Oh my god. No wonder they're crying on the timelines because you can go back and look at some of those charts that they cheated on from some of the common wallets where they got allocation. They cheated so early and then it ran away from them. It's no wonder they've been crying and funny each other so much. I love it. It's so great. It just makes me want... Nat Nat, I want the bear market to come and cleanse the space. Please come cleanse the space. It's going to be glorious because this is just the tip of the iceberg. Eating themselves.
[0:15:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop this bear market calling.
[0:15:29] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: I feel like they do. We don't need the bear market. They are sidelined as hell. Like... And that was the other point that I was making. Like, they they can't even run the coins past to the point. And so I was trying to tell these people, like, they used to hold Alo for a little while, but they're fighting all the jeeps that are already in there, and they're just jeeding before they even get into a decent market cap. Like, it it was crate... Adrian, you have to cosign me on this. She felt bad for them.
[0:15:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I listened... Somebody sent me a clip from a space where somebody was talking not so kindly about me, and they were like, oh, look at this poor guy in his wallet. He's got, like, nothing in his wallet and this and that. I'm like, that's funny. Okay. And the funny part is is they ended up on that same list, and then I went and I checked, and I was like, bro, I got more in my freaking public wallets than you've been trading for this entire year. What the hell are you talking about? This is wild.
[0:16:22] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: I just... I don't understand this idea that that KOLs are entitled to payment and entitled... And and it it was very odd, Dave. It was a weird... Everybody really thought that they they felt bad for them, and they felt bad that Zach put them on blast. It was so odd.
[0:16:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, Zach was being tactical.
[0:16:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: What what what I also saw too was there was, like, repeat wallets, like, different accounts. I gotta be honest. If I'm saying, like, I don't feel sorry for them, but, like, yo, teach me the game out here. Like, because they're obviously fleecing these companies and protocols for mad money when these protocols are screwing good people over like we heard in the Chawakoma today. Like... Yeah. Sorry. Cool.
[0:17:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro, bro, bro, this guy's... The... I think the top account was was commanding $60,000 per tweet. Well, probably 80% of his profile is bought, man. So he he bought every... They bought their profile. I... The game is a game. I don't... I... Honestly, though, I'm gonna lie to you guys. I saw it. I thought it was funny. I I moved on, man. It's just... The game is a game, though. Right? It's not gonna stop. You know? It's... We saw... Well, just recently, a large account posting as a female. They have the OKX partnership, man. I mean, this happened, like, a couple weeks ago. So, I mean, this is what it is.
[0:17:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's like, I... My favorite one was of all... I know I said it all time, but my favorite one of all time was Deb. Deb came up with a beautiful, like, elegant PFP, and I was like, oh, another smart... Hey. Another one to add to Monica's, like, you know, women of CT list. I was like, hey, Deb. All you heard was, hello, bro. Can you hear me? I was like, what the fuck is this? I was like, why is your name Deb? And he was like, short for Devinaire. I was like, no. Devinaire. That's so
[0:18:11] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: And cool is right. The... But cool is right. But cool, that's not my issue. My issue is how triggered they get and pissed off if you give people the tools to educate that, like, that this is what's happening to them. Like, yes, it is the game, and they're gonna move however they wanna move, but they get so mad when everybody else moves how they wanna move. Like, when I give tools to people about how to navigate the space, I don't even, like, personally name people a lot of times, and they're so pissed.
[0:18:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. And, Chris, they they don't want this list to be out, man. That... It's... I mean, this list kinda expose them, which they they don't... They never wanted this to happen, and and now that the the the the names are out there, it's only good... It's not a good look for them. It's not a good look. And that's why they don't like... They don't want they don't want all the people to win, and they don't wanna know... They don't want people to know how little they're making, how much they're making. It's just it's it's a weird place, man. Like, I don't know. Like I said, like, you say you wanna bear bear markets. I don't even know anymore, man. Like, the market's weird, man. Market's strange. I mean, right now, the fair and greed index is very... Is a fair, but ETH is still above $4.04... 4,400. So I... Bro, I have no idea. But market is strange, though. It's so strange.
[0:19:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, season.
[0:19:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm sending you your first invoice.
[0:19:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, snap. Hey. Listen. The baby's crying.
[0:19:23] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Wait. Wait. Hold on, Dave. Let Adrian say something, though, because Adrian did a killer job co hosting that whole space.
[0:19:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Adrian, talk to me.
[0:19:32] Voice I: Yeah. It was... That space that space was was crazy, man. Like, I I... Honestly, I wanted to say a lot, but I couldn't because I was in transit. But men, people have some very weird mentality, and it is even more on the people that were trying to make a justification out of it. Like, yeah. I mean, well, we keep saying the space is p v p. Everybody is trying to fight for their bags, but then you are still, you still expect someone to be considerate of your rug, of your of your rug talking or whatever it is that you are doing. I I I just want to point out the fact that prior to Zach making that post, a lot of people did not know that it is a crime for you to, shield something without identifying that it's paid partnership. And even on that space yesterday, there was a there was a brief argument where people were saying, oh, it does not affect Nigerian jurisdiction. Low and beyond, I got to do that just very short research, and I found that I was actually a crime in Nigeria. So I mean, the KOLs that got their hands dirty or not dirty, whatever whatever it is, is their problem. But at the end of the day, education was passed. Right? And a lot a lot of people who are planning to be creators or who want to be creators or you want to get paid to shoot something, there's no wrong if you are doing a paid promotion, but the the point is just you not shilling a rogue one and you specifying that you are shilling something because you are being paid for it. So a lot of people that don't know that at least know that now. So, I mean, congratulations to the KOLs there, and we also saw the trade guys list his same lights too. Was very funny moment.
[0:21:18] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: I bounced that k around like... That k o l like a basketball all over that space, didn't I?
[0:21:26] Voice I: Honestly, Empress Empress came came into that space and Jesus, she killed the man. She killed... I I I I was even like... Because there was this particular guy, the... One of the k k o l's who was also on on on the list. It was coming from the point of view of, like, the token itself was not up to 10,000 market cap or something like... He hasn't made up to 10 k market cap. So according to him, Zach does not have to post that list when the token was not an obvious rogue yet. And, I mean, Empress also made that point. I also made that point that, bro, it's not when something becomes a rogue before you call it out as a rogue. And I even gave him an analogy. He was like, oh, it's a retali question, but... Men, peep... People are just weird in in this space. And if you are listening right now, I mean, it's a big lesson to to always do your own... Have your own knowledge and, like, do your own due diligence of research and, like, have you just having your own thinking gen... Generally because, bro, if you are relying your bags on these skills or what you see people shelling on the tail, they're they're most likely not even making money from what they are shilling. They are making money from being paid to shill it. So, man, just just have your own brains. Know?
[0:22:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Cannot. My question with regards to the shilling and the calls and all that stuff. As far as Infofy is concerned and talking about these talking about these specific projects and shilling these specific projects, shouldn't we say that we're shilling this project on behalf of InfoFine to
[0:23:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: gain No.
[0:23:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: We don't
[0:23:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: know what we're getting.
[0:23:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. You don't
[0:23:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: everybody says, oh, we don't know what's gonna happen in the future. There may be these points might magically turn into
[0:23:12] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: a token. Tunnel. Except for tunnel because you
[0:23:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: get paid
[0:23:15] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: for real time.
[0:23:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tunnel tells you, I'm a pay taxes on the... I guess. I I I pay taxes. I pay taxes. Monica, go.
[0:23:24] Moni @monitalan: I was gonna say, you don't... Because you don't know. Right? You actually don't know what you'll get. But act... This is why KOLs hate Infify because they actually have to work for their bags. But, yeah, you don't have to disclose it unless, like you said, it's tunnel. The other one is the app market because you also know that you'll get paid. So I think those are the two that are more marketing versus Amplify, I guess, market... Marketing file. I don't know. Anyway, so... Yes. But the other thing is somebody told me that x rules the rules at... For x also require that you disclose when you're doing something for marketing. Does anybody know that? Wait.
[0:24:05] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: What was the question?
[0:24:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I know. So the rules are pretty much the same as Instagram in the sense, like, putting a paid tweet, paid post, you have to do hashtag ad. The downside is pretty much no one follows those rules nor do they enforce it. I believe it's an incentive factor for both Instagram and Twitter. It's like if Instagram and Twitter were to start enforcing those rules, they would lose post, they would lose users, they'd lose views, they would lose KPIs for their metric. And as much as we do love to shit on KOLs because I think we've all been there. Like me, personally, I've been involved in a project where we've... The team didn't sell anything, but we watched KOL dump to oblivion. But we've also done a fair launch, but let's let... Let's not let crypto VCs off the hook as well because crypto VCs and KOLs are kind of in the same boat, in my opinion. Listen. If y'all were
[0:24:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: making 16,000 a... Listen. If y'all were making 16,000 a post, nobody would be making a peep out here. Okay? Not a single one of you.
[0:25:01] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: That's cash. I've been offered plenty of money, and I've turned it down.
[0:25:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not be talking on this stage. I'll tell you right now because that means I'd be making 16,000 a post, and that means anybody that came up to fund my bags needs to make it 16,000 a post.
[0:25:15] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: I got offered a $100 one time.
[0:25:18] Moni @monitalan: Was $60,006.00.
[0:25:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not 60,000. Was it 60,000? For one of them. Yeah. For the top one.
[0:25:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Happened in
[0:25:28] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: that other space? What is wrong with you peep... First off, I've turned down plenty of paid offers. Don't understand that. I don't care. If I took 60,000, then I would just close it. The brief time that I was working for a project, I put that shit in my I I I put it in my actual bio. Like, I I... No. Don't say that. That's what they were saying in the other space. They're like, it's a jealousy thing. It's a sidelight thing. I get so tired of that mentality in this space. If people are gonna be amoral and lack ethics and people call it out, that doesn't mean that they don't know how to trade or that they can't get the same type of access. I hate that narrative.
[0:26:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I wanna be clear on what I'm saying. So... Sorry. Go ahead, Go go go.
[0:26:12] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Yeah. It was actually 60,000. It was this decode at TC. I think he he charges that because he's like... He has close relations to RNG, who's, like, one of the top unicorn guys. I think he he bases that off. He, like, he's, like... His connections and stuff. But, yeah, man, I was in the space too with the with the Empress and Justice. Yeah. The dude was literally saying there was... It wasn't even tanking the liquidity pool before, like, xBT tweeted... Made that tweet out. Like, bro, that's not the point. Like, bro, like, that's not the point. Zach, XBT probably that he most definitely shut the whole shit down before he went... Became, like, super mainstream. So... Yeah. And he was talking about how the dev spent 250,000 in promotions and everything. Like, bro, like, that's not the point. You feel me? That's not the point. But, yeah, man. Like, then I guess, KOLs have to eat and everything, which is kinda weird. Like, the amount they even charge... Like, most of these KOLs aren't even influential. Like, yeah, they get tweets, but did those who like their stuff, which are mostly, like, most... Mostly bots, you check the comment section, you just confirm that they have bots just, like, showing their page. But, yeah, they'll... Like, those impressions and engagement don't even convert, and that's that's the weird part of everything. But, yeah, man, I think... I guess the the the devs who pay these guys don't really leverage on the conversions. They just feel like, okay. If, like, a handful of people who deem these guys influential see it or buy in a way. And most of the time, it's just, the same people just circ... Like, circle jerking themselves, trying to, like, promote a certain token. They don't really pay these major guys anything. They just, like... It's literally a token, and they just, like, literally maybe set aside 10 k just to drive a lot... Couple of people. And... But based on that list, most of those KOLs charge way less than, like, XBT even advertise, bro, like, for referral. So it's it's more than what you see or see on the timeline. So, yeah, man, the token was gonna be a rock because, like, XBT called it out earlier. No one cares if this token didn't do millions and billions of market cap. No one cares. The core concept Yeah.
[0:28:12] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: But to cry about it Yeah. I feel sorry for me because Zac XBT ruined it and exposed us. You should really not be bitching because Zac XBT is the real villain here.
[0:28:23] Samara @thee_samara: Exactly. It it was just a weird concept. Like, even noticing the fact that most of those guys didn't buy the token or they literally just sold at first green candles. It's weird, man. So, yeah, it's... The space the space is parasitic. It's chaotic. Man, just... I keep telling
[0:28:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Is that
[0:28:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: a rug? Or is it a launch? I can't tell without 10 k in the liquidity pool. Which one?
[0:28:45] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. It was it was meant to be a rug. It's like XBT called it, like, before it even went so crazy. So... Yeah, man. I feel sorry for the guys who most likely bought into it thinking it was gonna be cool. We're gonna have, like, a second pump or whatever. But, yeah, it never goes well, especially when you see the same group of people shilling tokens. Like... And and funny thing about this whole stuff, I think this is where the whole character thing come... Like, can... That comes into play. Most of these dudes who were, quote, unquote, inner city and they cannot shield anything and get a bunch of likes and impressions, these guys had, like, dead impressions before Kiteo was a thing. Like, their reputation was shit. Everyone knew there was scammers and everything. But then gave them this inner city badge and made them a smart account, and now everyone wants suck their dick for impressions and likes and follows and everything. And now they're able to, like, sell whatever because they get the impressions anyway. Like, most of these guys don't even... Yeah. They just copy... Just, like, take a screenshot of the inner city badge and post, and people just start giving them massive, like, you know, interaction. And then they leverage on that to shoot whatever they can, which is a very, very weird and dishonest thing in the space. But, the game is game. You have to understand the game you're playing, understand that most of these guys aren't influential. You're just giving them the impressions because you feel like you earn yaps. Even... I was more on on the the the livestream with the the third guy yesterday. And it was like, bro, the whole kind of thing is just like, well, he called it something, that people screaming for yaps that... Most of them aren't actually influential. People are screaming for yaps, and that's the truth. So, yeah, everyone should understand the game they're playing and just understand what it is. So, yeah, be careful finding from agent who you follow because most of these guys were literally scammers before the whole, you know, city badge thing was actually allocated. So, yeah, if you don't know, you don't know what's... Yeah.
[0:30:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well said, Samara. So now with regards to the the the KOLs and the list and them not saying what tokens they were paid to, post or or whether it was an ad or not, does it open them up to a lawsuit for, like, deceptive practices?
[0:30:43] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. It's it's supposed to. But, again, like, we're in the space where...
[0:30:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who's gonna prosecute?
[0:30:48] Samara @thee_samara: Exact... Exactly.
[0:30:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean,
[0:30:50] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: can say that now, but that's what we're shifting into. Right? That's the landscape we're shifting into as crypto becomes something.
[0:30:56] Moni @monitalan: Actually... No. Actually, just to... Sorry. You can actually get fined by the FTC. They used to endorse it really...
[0:31:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Doors that don't anymore.
[0:31:09] Moni @monitalan: I don't think as much, but they did a lot on Facebook. But they they can go after you and find you In The US. So another company.
[0:31:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's the key. I'm like, listen, guys. We're small enough cool. We're small enough to where, you know what, let's just stay right around here. Let's earn our yachts, earn our money. Let's go ahead.
[0:31:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: The the reason why this is not gonna change because because of our industries is multiregional. I mean, we have people here from all over the world. I mean, you... You're not gonna have... If if you're a US person and your docs and your name is on this list, you should be worried. They could come after you in the future possibly. But to my honest with you, man, we have people from Nigeria, Ghana, freaking Togo, Ukraine, Russia, Philippines, Japan, China. Well, you're fine, man. If you're in these countries, you do what... You can do whatever you want, man. I mean, I I saw this this project. I was on CK Sync protocol. This is, VeloCore. They had, like, a 30,000,000 in the pool, d five pool, and and one of the devs broke this stuff. Right? And they stole it. They stole it was money, including mine, and this... The dev was based in Ukraine. And that was it. I mean, we... They're all... We're going out the pro... The the dev... The founder was, oh, yeah. We we we can try and find him. Nothing happened, and they hired this guy remotes. He's from Ukraine, and he he bought me all that money, man. That was it. So I I think the industry, we have to self regulate. That's the only way this... We fix this, honestly, and that's effective to a point. But self self regulation and publicly calling people out might be a a deterrent, but I don't think it's
[0:32:46] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: safe to say. So... Cool. Wouldn't I wouldn't wouldn't call people out. Even I've learned my lesson there. People don't really care. I think that education is the way to go. But, I mean, also, like Adrian said, knowing the laws of your country, state jurisdiction, wherever you are, that's also helpful. Like, I wouldn't have thought Nigeria was a disclosed type of country. But, I mean, you can bet if that guy speaks, he's bored and he's gonna keep coming out with lists. Americans, the FTC and stuff, they love nothing more than to be hand... Handed evidence and not have to do fuck all. They they might actually tax some of these guys.
[0:33:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair. Alright. Speaking of rugs. Let's talk about World Liberty Financial.
[0:33:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Short it.
[0:33:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro, that's not a rock, bro. That... That's owned by the by the goodest president in the world, man. That's not a rock, bro.
[0:33:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So... So what about the
[0:33:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: other tokens? Are they still around? How... Are they up? They now?
[0:33:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Set We're this up. We're gonna set this up proper. Okay?
[0:33:43] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Somebody who supports him would say goodest.
[0:33:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here we go. Goodest. Yeah. Exactly. The best. Wow. So listen. Listen. Listen. Listen.
[0:33:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: Here's Oh, it's gonna become a Mario space now, isn't it?
[0:33:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Yo. Bite your tongue.
[0:33:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: God forbid. No. It's all the market maker's fault.
[0:33:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dustin, you better relax.
[0:33:58] Bread @_ToastMalone: So You better watch that grease trap, bro.
[0:34:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here's the drill. Don't make me bread. Don't make me bread, everybody.
[0:34:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Here's to his face now. Hold
[0:34:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. That's it. Guys, how many times? Come on. God. I'm allergic to it. I can't have him on for more than, like, two seconds. I hate you all. Point being, let's set this up properly. Okay? Trump meme token comes to pass, and we're like, what? Trump meme token? Oh my god. $67,000,000,000 by the time I learned about it. Then I was like, do we take a position? Yeah. I'm not gonna take a position. Where does it go? 72,000,000,000. Wow. Utility? Nada. The president tweets about it with Gucci. Now over the next few months, president spends time issuing new token, World Liberty Financial, not tradable. People pour into it. They take all that money. They go out and buy real assets. You now have the most powerful man in the world who says, hey. Guess what? All these assets we bought with this, we're gonna essentially speedrun everything over here. We're gonna change the regulation in The United States, and we are going to lead the world when it comes to crypto regulation. Guess what? That actually happens. Great. The once token that they said will never be tradable in World Liberty Financial, guess what? Yesterday, on Coinbase, WLFI starts trading, but at a valuation of a measly six to seven billion dollars. So I ask you, panel, make it make sense. Although, I am on record by going, don't ever try and make sense of any of this shit because you'd be retarded if you think making sense of anything in crypto is actually a good strategy. Cool. What's your take on world liberty, bro? No. I... Yeah.
[0:35:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: I got no... You already said it. I mean, nothing makes sense anymore. I mean, we... It's been it's been like this for a long time. We have we have meme coins worth more than a... The GDP of some countries, man. We... I mean, things make no sense. You don't come here to make sense. You come here to make money. At the end of the day, I did see some people made a lot of money from this project. We have... We have people... Because it it was not available... The the presale was not available to US personnel, I think. Maybe only to accredited investors. But I saw some people buy in, and they made $30.40 grand, man. So if you got in early, big ups to you. But, bro, I gotta understand about this. Nothing makes sense to crypto. You just have to make money, man. It's just... You can't predict anything. Yep.
[0:36:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So it was a 12 x from, like, where you... Where they initially sold.
[0:36:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Exact... Exactly. So when when you guys follow, I... Of crypto,, we put in, like, $5. So 5 times 12. That's how much you made.
[0:36:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: $60, bro.
[0:36:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah.
[0:36:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's not bad.
[0:36:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: Just... It's not not bad. That's what I'm saying. So it does benefit some people, and, unfortunately, people buy what's flashy. You cannot buy what's flashy. And that's why a lot of people gonna lose a lot of money on this. I am right. I agree with Landy and and Empress. This is 100% a short to short short values for the next three to six months, man.
[0:36:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: What the hell? Stop fucking my bags. I didn't set you up.
[0:36:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm that. Yo. So it's 25,000,000,000 FDV, bro. It just came out two, three days ago. He's a folk of AbbVie. Folk of AbbVie with a with a liquidity of 1,000,000. Liquidity of liquidity of 1,000,000, $25,000,000,000 at TBL. Come on, bro....
[0:37:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: 1,000,000. Stop this malice. It's literally listed on every major exchange on
[0:37:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: day one. What I said yesterday was 1,000,000. I I don't know what it's written down. That's just one.
[0:37:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's one. Get out of here. Like, this literally was traded to the two bulls. Bro, $3,000,000,000 on the centralized exchanges between buy Bitcoin based gate.io. This shit was exploding all over the place. But the bottom line is that over here... And that... I'm I'm coming to you because I tell you, if it's a short take, like, you short the short take.
[0:37:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: So so, Dave, your your your policy because you have big back. Right? Your your bullets No. I I
[0:37:45] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: just wanna say you guys are speaking errantly, though, FYI. Sorry.
[0:37:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah.
[0:37:51] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Can can I correct you real quick?
[0:37:53] Moni @monitalan: Mhmm.
[0:37:54] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: It's it's it is relevant. I'm not just being a bitch. Actually, the way that this... That World Liberty was is they they never said it wasn't gonna be tradable. What happened was is on the presale, it wasn't on chain so that world powers and and, you know, terrorists and everybody else could buy it on presale, and then they would vote to put it on the blockchain. So, essentially, all kinds of famous people and and lucrative people... Rich people, whatever else,
[0:38:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: They weren't all billionaires. Look. 15... There was two presales. There was a round one and round two. Round one went for a penny. Round two went for a penny and 0.5. And if you got in and you didn't have to be rich to get in, but you did have to be signed up to the World Liberty Financial platform...
[0:39:11] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: His initial rollout, Landy, was accredited investors. That... That's what he said on this face with Farooq, his words.
[0:39:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Yes. The the round one was an accredited investor round. You had to be... You you did have to be part of the platform, and the presell was done through the platform. And one... The thing about this is is when it opened up at the token launch price, all of the liquidity pools were being funded all over the place. So the actual token liquidity and the tokens circulating supply that was issued on chain and then sent to all the different exchanges. Because it's on every exchange. It's on Moonshot. It's everywhere you go. It's it's everywhere. So the actual liquidity to, to the the the amount of the token was actually... The amount of liquidity seated in there was real. That that was the real actual circulating supply valuation. And there is... There's vesting unlock periods that were that were already up for some of the investors. There is still some vesting, and then there's all kinds of different things that they're doing with the token. I think this is gonna be a long term play for them. I don't think it's gonna go anywhere, and I think that it's obviously a short play now because of because of the sell side pressure, and they're gonna wait to find the floor. But investors are way up over, and immediately upon launch, we're way up over because of the liquidity pool that was funded by them, not from outside of the market, not from people aping in on the contracts or anything like that or snipes and stuff like that, which some did try to snipe, but they got absolutely destroyed because of the sell side pressure. They didn't have an opportunity to grab supply like they would normally want to. So anybody that tried to snipe into it got absolutely nuked. And that was......
[0:41:05] Voice I: Got it on the presale?...
[0:41:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: That was a smart play. No. No. No. They didn't get it in... No. Snipers did not get it in on the presale. This is... These these were investors that got in on the presale, and any snipers that tried to get in got nuked immediately. Immediately. This is the smart way to nuke snipers because they learned their lesson on this. I actually think that it was a smart launch. I think it's also a good short play, and it will continue to be a good short play because of that sell side pressure.
[0:41:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: So hold on. Question for you, Lendi. So... Yeah. So good good take. So I think we're discounting the fact that this man has another three years in office. Okay? And he is the most powerful man on the planet. Okay? And his name and his reputation and his... The White House is literally... Like, when we talk about crypto and pro... Bitcoin administration and everything else, you're literally saying now, bro... And I'm I'm literally playing the other side. Knock on to the bag, bro. Was like, the bag is light. I I can give two shits. I'm in the money, by the way, for the record. I got in at 20 at 21¢ to 23.5 on a five x leverage on hyper liquid. So leave it... Let let let my bags cook. But point being is, are we not putting enough into consideration where we're like, this is the president of The fucking United States here? Trump is bigger than that. It's bigger. That's what I'm saying. It's bigger than that. And if we're wanna go by
[0:42:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: the numbers, then trend...
[0:42:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. And and, quote, try to make sense of it. In my mind, the way I can rationalize this is you now have a massive pool, a massive pool of yield bearing assets. Right? Massive Bitcoin, Ethereum, and all the other tokens that he has now in there. Like, you can generate massive yield on these things. Now there's nothing that says it's going back to World Liberty Financial holders. I want to be clear on this. Nothing. But it all... They also said it wasn't gonna be tradable immediately. You know what I'm saying? So this is an ever evolving landscape at the end of the day, so I think it's foolish to bet against the... It's just me. Everyone do what the hell you want. But, like, I think it's insanely foolish to bet against the president What? That is literally backing a token. That's... I mean, I don't know. Maybe you guys are talking short term, but I think it's a play.
[0:43:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: When we're playing the volatility, we're not betting against the individual. We're just taking advantage of the downside pressure. That's really it. We're not saying that... We're not betting against Trump or anyone. We're taking advantage of all the sell that's coming in. And like like we said
[0:43:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. But on the technical side, you're talking about that? Like, are you playing Yeah. Q and A, Shmi and A.
[0:43:28] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. I I would play, at this point, there's way more liquidity on the prediction market side of things if there's a line on the price of the Trump Are
[0:43:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: you guys high? It traded $1,800,000,000 in twenty four hour volume, Bubba Gettleer.
[0:43:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: Well, boom.
[0:43:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Short printed like crazy on the other side of that.
[0:43:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:43:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, it's all self
[0:43:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: selling pressure.
[0:43:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: You need the buy side pressure to come in. We don't have that yet. It needs to find a floor.
[0:43:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Day one. That's what I'm saying.
[0:43:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Now I know what was
[0:43:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: an obvious word. We're not saying
[0:44:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: that it's not gonna do well. We're saying that it's it's it's in a phase of formal right now. Right? I I I... You you don't wanna buy token that's just... You're up because you got in early. Like, you cannot buy something that's this freshness
[0:44:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: What valuation do you put on this, Cole? What value... Where would you set up the company by bro.
[0:44:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: It it... They they need... There needs to be some tokens all locked on this thing. They need to be... It needs to be traded for a while. Aave. Aave is a fork of Aave. It's worth more than Aave. Aave has been around for what? Seven, eight years? This thing is out like, well, for, like, a week. You can't you can't tell me it's gonna hold up.
[0:44:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, bro. It started trading yesterday, bro. Bro, I know I understand.
[0:44:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm I'm not saying it's not gonna do well, bro. I'm I'm say... I'm saying that it needs to find a level trading field before people should be buying it. You can be buying something right now at a $26,000,000,000 FTV. Like, I don't... I I I what what do you... Okay. From from right now, what's upside, bro? You... You're telling you're telling me what? FedEx and air?
[0:45:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Yeah. It needs to
[0:45:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: cool down before we
[0:45:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: get actually think it I actually think it might be legit, but but my point is... Hold on. Hold on. Hold on before you tell me I'm crazy. And, this is not bad bias. I swear to god. I have literally the most minute position ever. My point is is, like, day one, are you telling me, like, three point whatever billion dollars traded? I agree with you on the settle cool. Maybe it's still early. But that's also debunking that's that's like, oh, technical on the sell side. What are we talking about? Yeah. Everybody unloaded yesterday. Cool. I'm with that. Obviously, like, got it in a penny. You see this shit at 25¢ on Coinbase. Thank you very much.
[0:45:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: How is that debunking my theory, though? It's the number... The chart the chart is literally right there. Like, look. Look at all the the the red bars. There's a lot of sell side pressure. No one's debunking anything.
[0:45:43] Voice I: Bars too.
[0:45:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Advantage of the volatility. That's all.
[0:45:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, there's $600 in liquidity on just a single tennis match on just Polymarket.
[0:45:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: If this isn't the best damn show ever, don't wanna fucking hear it. Yeah. Wait. Empress, real quick. Let me just say what's up to Coma. Coma, I would make fun of your PFP, but I don't know if it's a rough day. What's good? How are you?
[0:46:08] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Nothing rough. Just enjoying the volatility. And, yeah, I don't know if you guys see Katana, but these bar rates are fucking insane. Yeah.
[0:46:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: There it goes again, Dave, the volatility.
[0:46:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. I hate y'all, man. I see what y'all do. Y'all talking to the team about... You know what? My fucking shit. My log's gonna cook. I don't give a shit about it.
[0:46:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: Like, literally, everyone was talking about all these other things on the timeline, and I'm just, like, quietly. Like, I was debating just posting about all these borrow rate on Morpho right now. But, I mean, maybe Monica knows, but I... I've just been, like... I literally have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine positions open on on Morpho right now. So it's, yeah, it's it's... I'm like... It's it's it's almost like stupid. I don't even know why these numbers are this high, but I'll take it while I can. And then, yeah, just... Yeah. I know that we... I know that last phase you guys were talking about APYs and all that stuff. So I was just like, if... I I I ran into, like, a dead zone in terms of, like, while I was driving, so I couldn't really speak. But, yeah, there's a lot of good stuff that's happening in DeFi right now. You guys, just just take advantage.
[0:47:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So just so just real quick, Kuma. Kuma, you know I love you, bro. I I love what you're doing. You make a lot of money. I get I get I get it. I've been in position before. I just wanna say I am begging you. If you... Don't don't put too much money into DeFi, man, because I... I've experienced some some heartbreak in the past two years. I lost a good amount of money from Hacks, man. So you don't wanna have a lot of your money packed in one platform. So you should... If... I'm I'm sure you... You're you're doing the right way. I I just want want you to learn from me. Please don't put too much money that you've you've earned from me into one platform because I did that before, and I got absolutely fucking wrecked, man.
[0:47:48] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Totally. I I think that's... I'm probably towing that danger line, to be honest, but it... It's interesting. Can I ask what, like, platform you used it on?
[0:47:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: It was, it was, yeah, what, Radius Capital. It was it was the number two board board and lending platform last year. And Wow. They're backed by finance. It was huge. They had almost a billion dollars in TBL. It... They were they were they were the first,
[0:48:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: basically, multichain lending platform where you could borrow money on on Arbitrum and pay back on on on on base. You could do some crazy stuff and backed by finance. They're doing so well, and boom, hacked. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. I just... After that hack, I was like, yo. I I have to be very careful with putting too much money because the yield was, like, 300%. I was earning... I was... It was crazy because I I I was using the money I earned on that platform to go make more money because that yield was so juicy, but I I I got rexed, bro. And I'm like, I don't want people to do that again. So it... Please don't have too much money in one platform. That's that's that's that's kind of my my my my advice, bro. Right?
[0:49:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: Much appreciate. No. That's that's that's honestly makes sense. I mean, I'm... I mean, it's on Morpho. And, again, you can't trust. I always advise everyone also, like, nothing is ever safe with DeFi, like, in... That perspective. But, yeah, I gotta practice what I teach too. But, yeah, Morpho and Aave have been pretty solid, not gonna lie, but you just never know with any of these. Oh my Yeah.
[0:49:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you are are you good to chat up? Do you... Are you feel... You comfortable enough to chat about what you shared in the chat? Or if you don't want to, that's cool. But I think it's something that's maybe important for us to kinda maybe tackle and that people could learn from. But if you don't want to, I get it. But just want to throw it out there if you did want to.
[0:49:40] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I mean I mean, it is what it... Yeah. We could talk about it. What do you wanna talk about?
[0:49:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just like like... So when we talked about... Just to give people context and, Kent, I'll come over to you. Give me one second, but I think this is important. But, like, when we said insomnia, right, and you were like, yo. I got this windfall, and we were all... And we're... Obviously, we're hell and fucking happy for you. Anybody that's winning up here, like, we wanna champion and celebrate in the whole nine yards. And when we talked about the premarket stuff... Because I think maybe maybe I didn't understand what you were saying, like, also in the chat, but, like, I wanna be educated on this. But when we said whales market and I looked at whales market and there was $300 in volume, and it was like, oh, a dollar 40, dollar 50. Right? Like, yeah, that was paper profits, and I was telling y'all like this... Like, y'all are crazy, but what is the Binance side of this? And, like, where should I go look to do some homework on Binance premarket, and what was the volume? Like, and could you have sold, under any circumstance, like, or in any way? So maybe, like, people are a little bit more... Myself included, unlike if we do get an airdrop for future reference and it does start trading premarket, what do we need to do in order to maybe do that now? Like, what lesson did you learn and kinda can you, like, give us the, like, the lowdown?
[0:50:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I mean, just for context, premarkets on whale mark... Whale market is not is not the best way to evaluate it just because there's so little volume of liquidity. But, like, platforms like Binance, you are able to, like, basically see what the the value of the token could be, I guess, in the pre... In the in the premarket. So at that time, I think there was... They were doing about, like, a million, million plus of, like, trading volume, maybe even more. I wasn't paying too heavily attention to it, but I just know there there was a way more volume than what what the pre that pre Whale app was doing. But, essentially, it was training at, like, max peak $1.90, average at, like, $1, $1.10, $1.15. But I wasn't getting too excited because as you all know, like pre markets are just one aspect of it. Usually when people start getting their claims, and it was also part of Binance Alpha, and Binance Alpha is notoriously known for getting a ton of supply and then selling it and then dumping the token. So right now it's trading at like 48¢, which is still with my current allocation, it's still a decent size. But what could I have done to make this easier for me and trade it at a high price? Maybe I just, you know, give my US citizenship, move to The Philippines, and then get, you know, get access to Binance Alpha or Binance, you know, or Nigeria. I don't know. Somewhere somewhere not US, essentially, because everywhere that you can literally trade these premarket legally, like, you would... You can't actually do it because they... All of the, all of these exchanges don't allow US citizens. And sure, like, people are like, why don't you just VPN and blah blah blah blah? So I was like, yeah. Like, these exchanges don't give a crap about you putting money in, but they do care a lot about you taking money out. So whenever you try to withdraw something, they're gonna ask you to show documentation, show proof of residence, just show up, you know, a bank statement from this country that, you know, you're trying to VPN from. So, like, at... Like, I knew what was gonna happen, but it is what it is. Like, there's nothing else you can do. Right?
[0:52:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know how much money you make, comma, but I'm giving them Cools Kids. I'm giving them Nat Nazz Baby. I'm giving it for for 90... A $100,000. No kidding. But, like, bro, I mean, I'm... And this is just me, like... Maybe, like... I don't know. I would've called somebody. Like, call, like, one of Nat's friends in in Puerto Rico or, like, one of Cole's fucking brothers in Nigeria or Samarra in Dubai. I don't know. No. Nothing. Like...
[0:53:24] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. No. I think in hindsight, like, there are some... Okay. This is recorded. But there are some things you can do to make this work one way or another. But, you know, if I ask tomorrow, he might ask for a 10% cut, you know, so... Because because, you know, he's out here hustling.
[0:53:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: That 10% is looking mad pretty right now when it was a dollar 90 as opposed to being 43¢, baby.
[0:53:47] Kkoma @itskkoma: Very true. But, I mean, I think you... I think understanding the premarkets is pretty... Also... It's also something new to me. I've never done it because I can't legally do it. But from my understanding, it's basically a contract between buyer and seller saying, hey. The buyer will buy at this price, and they put their funds in, like, this smart contract. This is from a DeFi perspective, but you basically put your money in some type of, like, vault or something. And then the seller says, I will sell at this price. And once I get my claims or access to my tokens, I'll sell it at this price at a reasonable time. I don't know what that reasonable time is, but essentially, you're able to lock in that price. So, I mean, it's obviously risk upwards or downwards, right, depending on how the price ends up. But usually, the trend has been with pre markets that is usually trading at a way inflated price than what the TGE price will be. So Fair. Yeah. Like... Yeah.
[0:54:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Have you been able to claim yet? Or you said you have No.
[0:54:42] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I claimed. I'm just hoping that maybe Hopium is... Or Copium is the right way to put it, but I'm hoping some crime and market movers... Market makers will pump this price back up, but, well, let's see what happens.
[0:54:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Monica, talk to your friend. Talk to your... Talk some sense into your friend, Monica.
[0:55:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: Market makers, man. You know, crime is legal. Come on.
[0:55:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're in
[0:55:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: a bull market. Just, you know, just pump some liquidity in there. We're we're good to go.
[0:55:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Know what's very interesting about
[0:55:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: this real smart.
[0:55:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what's very interesting about this whole thing is that I had no idea that crypto had a premarket, or is that only on certain exchanges?
[0:55:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: So it's pre it's pre TGE listing. It's not so... Obviously, because crypto twenty four seven. Right? So it's like before people get airdrops, what whales market was. And we discussed this last week, right, where it's like you can get into... And what Koma just said is you can enter into a contract with someone that says, hey. I'm essentially... Like, they put... It's bid and act... Like, and offers, and you can essentially, like, take somebody's offer or hit somebody's bid. Right? You're If like, hey. I'm getting an airdrop and somebody's bidding a dollar 50 for Insomnia at... For 10,000 tokens and you're getting a 40,000 token allocation, you can lock that in via smart contract. And once you get your airdrop, you have to do it. I think Wells Market is, like, two or three days, and then you have to fulfill that. And it's all done via smart card. If you connect your wallet, it automatically pulls, like, the allocation from, and then you get the USCC. So Wells almost acts like this... Or the smart contracts act like escrow for, like, the agreement. And then once you get the tokens, then it's, like, even... So, like, you know, even swap for where you agree to it, but it's all a gamble on where people think these tokens are gonna open up.
[0:56:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: So this is where --... Saying... Free TGE only. Right?
[0:56:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, right upon TGE. Yeah. So Insomnia, like, you know, Como was farming Insomnia Network, he got a shit... He had an amazing allocation. And, you know, when he came in here, we were looking at the chart. We were like, oh my...
[0:56:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I remember. I remember that.
[0:56:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:56:37] Kkoma @itskkoma: Even World Community Financial was also doing a lot of the premarkets on Binance and stuff like that. So that seems to be the common trend. And if... Honestly, I don't really understand how, like, people not in The US are not making money. It's... It just follows the same exact pattern. Right? Like, premarket's really high up. You just, you know, try to sell it then and then do, like, a 25 x short. And then, you know, worst case scenario, you're just hedging your bet, you know, if you own the token one way or the other. Right? So... Or... Yeah. That's my my... That's my... That's that's what a lot of my friends have been doing outside of The US is basically playing the short game and then the long game and then the sell game. So it's it's it's like a rinse
[0:57:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Koma literally just said asking for a friend. I love it. Yes. The space is recorded, Koma. Good job. But thank you, Koma. I appreciate you sharing that, bro, for real, because I think that's important for people to understand because I am now smarter having obviously listened to, like, what you were saying and the scheming wheels and the crime wheels in my head. Samara, are the crime wheels in your head turning a little bit?
[0:57:40] Samara @thee_samara: Of course.
[0:57:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Also, Dave,
[0:57:43] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: you know
[0:57:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: you know what it is? Also, it's like,
[0:57:45] Samara @thee_samara: do you trust someone to get...
[0:57:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: You know, like, you could give them, like, 20,000 of your tokens? You're like, hey. Can you sell this for me for 40%? Know what?... Back to me, please.
[0:57:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Homa, would do?... Was thinking the exact same thing. Right? It's easy to... Because to be up here telling you, oh, you could have done all of these different things, but at the end the day, trust factor plays a huge role. Like, who's to say you're not gonna run away with my stuff?
[0:58:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. You guys wouldn't trust me with 90,000 doll... A $100,000? For real? Yo. What? What? What the hell? I invested in you, you piece of shit. Anyways, whatever. Yeah. But, Colma, I appreciate you, man. Seriously. Like, jokes aside, bro, I... Thank you. Thank you for sharing it because I think that was, yeah, that was dope. And, bro, I hope you get some money out. And, yo, if the criminals come back, you know, they come following us and they pump your ship, I hope they pump it back to Valhalla, my bro. I hope they do. Alright. Nat, yes. Give me the... What what... Listen. What's up with my my my my short play on Jerome Powell lowering rates? Are you gonna fund me here too?
[0:58:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: We shall see. I don't know. But speaking of criminals, did you guys see this token that launched on Solana? It's like UTK, and it's backed by this guy that's, like, super controversial, and it ran from, like, two... From, like, a 100 k market cap, and it's now over 2,000,000 market cap.
[0:59:05] Moni @monitalan: Yes. This is UTK.
[0:59:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's the ticker. Right?
[0:59:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I got in that too when she posted it.
[0:59:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, I faded it because I saw who was behind it. I was like, oh, I can't.
[0:59:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Who's behind it?
[0:59:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's about making money, Nat. It's not about feelings.
[0:59:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: I was right there. I was wondering why she
[0:59:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: was sharing that too. I was like, oh, man. Are you kidding me? And then she explained, like, no. I'm here to make money. I was like, you know what? I'm in.
[0:59:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is UT... Is anyone gonna fill me... Nat, are gonna fill me in?
[0:59:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: What is this on camera? Unite the kingdom.
[0:59:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: So the guy that's behind it is like a... Like... Think of the Tate brothers, like, far right. Is that
[0:59:50] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: that white supremacist shit? Is that what it is?
[0:59:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe. Far right sounds like white supremacist.
[0:59:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not like skinhead or anything like that, but definitely a a full blown nationalist get very, very controversial in terms of the way that he wants to clean up The UK. And his my... His name is escaping me now, Nat. Why why? We all know Tommy Robinson.
[1:00:18] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Is it Tommy Rob...
[1:00:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Tommy Robinson. Yeah.
[1:00:21] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Okay. That's white supremacists. Yeah. He's using supremacists. What do you mean not really? That's a hardcore white supremacist.
[1:00:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: And he's using some of that money.
[1:00:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Mean, he's not marking skinhead stuff. Right?
[1:00:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What was that? He's what?
[1:00:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's using some of the money that he's getting from this crypto for his vision, whatever that is.
[1:00:38] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: What do you mean he's not rocking skinheads? That that is not the uniform of white supremacists. Guy has already been in prison for his his rhetoric and nonsense. They... What are we talking about?
[1:00:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: An intentional poke. Why you gotta do that? Where where is this? Played that.
[1:00:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: I didn't see his When
[1:00:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: you say vision, is he blind, or is Graham
[1:00:56] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: He is an American. He doesn't wear a hood because he
[1:00:58] Bread @_ToastMalone: They're trying to fund his LASIK surgery, man. I mean...
[1:01:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Is he trying to get those little...
[1:01:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: Does he only see in certain colors is is my real... Does
[1:01:08] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: he only see......
[1:01:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Know this?
[1:01:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: He only sees white.
[1:01:11] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Unite the kingdom is always gonna be code for white supremacy in case anybody doesn't know.
[1:01:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know, like, the kingdom.
[1:01:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: I I saw it. And I saw the people that were behind it. And, usually, you know what? It's crypto whatever. But as a Latina, you know, I just... I couldn't, man. I just couldn't. I couldn't do that to my people. But kudos to whoever got in it. Congrats.
[1:01:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? This is inviting I'm sorry. Listen, and we don't judge.
[1:01:37] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: You are funding a one supremacy.... Railed.
[1:01:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. No. It's gonna be a great short. It's gonna be a great short at some point. Hold on.
[1:01:45] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: You're funding a white supremacist. You're funding a white supremacist.
[1:01:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: So so are all of the other people making money off of this that are making money and hate him.
[1:01:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, let's go.
[1:01:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're making money and hate... They're hating all
[1:01:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: the money they make.
[1:02:00] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Way different than a bunch of punks in a Rittario space dropping hate language on occasion. This guy is an actual organization and is actually doing terrorist shit. Like, that's crazy. This this space needs help.
[1:02:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yo. Fuck you, Landy. Yo. What else is quicker than scraping off of this? Let's move on after UTK. I told y'all I gonna say something like unicorn fart dust. I was like, what is this? Back again for, like, round two? UTK. F a k. Wait. Anyways...
[1:02:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just wait for the fart coin e t... Wait for the fart coin treasury company to make sure that got coming
[1:02:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: for treasury company comes...
[1:02:36] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Slanty's not pulling up in a black van anymore. He's pulling up in a white van, apparently.
[1:02:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's it's
[1:02:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: got UTK. It's got... It's it's paid for with UTK profits.
[1:02:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That is crazy work. Alright, guys. The perfect
[1:02:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: person is mad when she finds out that I'm that I'm donating it to
[1:02:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Info file.
[1:02:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: To coyotes.
[1:02:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I should have, like, a info five, like, sound.
[1:02:58] Bread @_ToastMalone: Like a zebra? You're gonna donate
[1:03:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: it to zoo?
[1:03:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: Info five, or am am I... I'm the one.
[1:03:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. I said info... I I I figured I thought I should have, like... It should be, like, a musical sound when I say info five.
[1:03:14] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: No. The bat's still a thing.
[1:03:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:03:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Totally a thing. Already took the bat to the knee. Come on.
[1:03:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know that you're at the big up casino. What is going on? I'll be back with my refrigerant in the young man. What the hell?
[1:03:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sounds like it's gonna blow up. Get out of
[1:03:32] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: the house. I just wanna say I'm packing the trenches, and
[1:03:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I went for the Meek Mill coin.
[1:03:36] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Meek Mill. I went for the Meek Mill coin. Thank you. Mm-mm.
[1:03:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh. Nobody said a word about Ye launching a coin. Meanwhile, people are talking about trading off the lows, and it's a bunch of Jewish guys trading off the lows, which is the most hilarious thing ever, and it just keeps going down forever. So who's getting rinsed out here?
[1:03:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. As as... Like I always say, man, money is blind, man. Money money is blind. Greed is blind. I mean, Jewish people buying KKK stuff. KKK people... Mean, it's it's crazy out here because this money's blind, bro. That's what he's
[1:04:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's all dangerous, though. It's
[1:04:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: all dangerous.
[1:04:12] Samara @thee_samara: Are... But we
[1:04:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: already did the whole we already did the whole racist coin, Meadow. I thought we were past that.
[1:04:17] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Yeah. That was perfect.
[1:04:18] Bread @_ToastMalone: But we already go that quickly back around.
[1:04:20] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Bunch of punk kids. Like, this is interesting, though. As meme coins roll out, like, it is interesting to think about we're we're not gonna be in the CT bubble where it's easier to just, like, participate. Like, what if you are actually contributing to a terrorist organization across the
[1:04:37] Bread @_ToastMalone: So we evolved into institutional racist meme coin cycle.
[1:04:42] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Yep. But a bunch of kids in their mom's basement saying the n word, like, it's the first time they were ever allowed to swear is a far different beast.
[1:04:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't There's a lot
[1:04:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: worse than that. Than the kids
[1:04:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: in their mom's basement. I'll tell you. I just went through the Remilio trenches. Those motherfuckers are insane. The Marfa Texas dudes. Okay? Stycho motherfuckers. I don't wanna hear... I went... I... When I say crashed out, I literally crashed out, pulled a grenade, literally went with the bomb, like, to my chest, and I detonated that shit in the fucking... In the chat because that's how insane they are. Like, zero shame in their fucking game.
[1:05:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Like, none of not chonkula. That's what
[1:05:19] Samara @thee_samara: it was.
[1:05:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's what it is.
[1:05:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: They needed the chonkula. They needed the chonkula. He really
[1:05:22] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: I did an eight hour space with Retardia's where I was on trial. Imagine surviving that.
[1:05:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what? They Are
[1:05:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: you slapping this on me?
[1:05:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well After you left and crashed out, you know what they probably said and see? They probably were, like, pointing and going, see? See? This is exactly why we are the way we are. Yeah.
[1:05:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But all I kept doing was, like, sending bear Jew fucking memes of, like, him cracking skulls and fucking... What's it called? Inglourious bastards. It was the best fucking thing I've ever done in my life. And maybe
[1:05:50] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: You do realize those core people, the rich ones, are Jewish.
[1:05:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. They're all Jewish, bro.
[1:05:56] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Boom. They are Jewish.
[1:05:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're all Jewish
[1:05:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: in retardios. I
[1:06:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't know who you're talking about. In retardios?
[1:06:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. There's a ton of Jewish dudes there that are perpetuating that.
[1:06:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: The the the other one associated with those Jews. How about the the the Hitler loving fucking Nazi love
[1:06:12] Bread @_ToastMalone: Leave Dave and his vision alone. Okay? Let Dave have his vision and play where he wants to.
[1:06:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: Anyways Yeah. Did you guys see the the governor of California launch in the meme Cory?
[1:06:23] Bread @_ToastMalone: He said he was going
[1:06:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: to is launching a meme No. Just launched a I he's meme. I...
[1:06:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I thought I thought it was AI. I was like, yeah. That's Oh, boy.
[1:06:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what? It's Americans are gonna get more of the meme Cory.
[1:06:34] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: And they're not gonna get money from that more Americans than they will from the Tommy Robbins. They... It's fucking wild.
[1:06:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. It's gonna be a great short. That's all I know. Gavin Newsom, please launch it. It's gonna be a great short.
[1:06:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. I think he's... The ticker's Malibu.
[1:06:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: He's seen what Trump has done in crypto. I'm sure. And not just him. A lot other politicians have seen what Trump has done with crypto, and they see how much money he's made, and they're gonna jump on board. I predicted this shit, and more and more and more coming.
[1:07:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: He need... You're cool. He needs money for his campaign, and the ticker is no agua. That's what the ticker is,
[1:07:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: bro. That's what ticker is pally. Pally agua. Yeah. Wild.
[1:07:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is wild. I wanna get over to go from here. What... Alright. What else? What else is on the timeline? Oh, Infofy. This is what I wanted to talk. What did I want? Oh, station x. Are you guys... Do you guys... Have you seen this? I found this on Tunnel, but I'm curious if, like, station... Yeah. Bingus, go for it.
[1:07:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bingus, you wanna say something?
[1:07:34] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Do you want me to jump into unstable point?
[1:07:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Not yet. We still have twenty more minutes, so hang out for a little bit.
[1:07:42] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Oh, twenty three?
[1:07:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. He's like, oh, man. I got stuck here for ninety fucking minutes. Yeah. Sometimes the show... You gotta earn the show, my bro. Bildo, what's good?
[1:07:52] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: You know how you normally, like, let me get to Bildo because he's got something smart and quirky to say?
[1:07:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep.
[1:07:57] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Well, I just heard Landy talk about this coin, and I feel like the ticker should be Landy because he called it the great short. Basically, it's basically Landy as a coin. You know what I mean?
[1:08:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, great short. Sell it. King of shorts. The king of shorts. Exactly.
[1:08:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. But seriously...... Money like
[1:08:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shortsman? Station x. Cool. Have you heard of this or no? No. Okay.
[1:08:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No.
[1:08:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So what Station x is... Do you guys remember the meta where it was like, oh, like, we're gonna bring... What was it? Dow... Dowmaker. You you guys remember Dowmaker? Where it was like, we bring you the VCs and, like, the investment bankers, they bring you the deals in crypto, and it's like you have the opportunity to invest early. Obviously, like, what Kaito's doing now kind of on the launch pad, which, by the way, I saw some of those numbers and what some of these companies are raising on the Kaito, like, capital launch pad. That did... That is crazy numbers, bro, and how oversubscribed some of this shit is. It is nuts. But StationX is another one of these, right, that I signed up. I found it through Tunnel. I did a post about them, but then I started digging in a little bit, and I'm like, wow. They have all of these, like, different rooms that you can, that people can start. Right? There's, like, Open Alpha, AlphaDAO, Excelsior Fund. Right? All these different, like, you know, funny names. And everyone has, like, their own specific thing. Right? But they're all vetted, and you have the opportunity to, like, look at some of the deal flow that that they bring forward. Again, I don't know. I... I'm not vouching for the platform. I'm not vouching for any of it, but I thought the concept was really cool. They do have a bunch of NFTs that you can mint, I think, until September 8. So if people wanna get in, obviously, go check it out. And then it opens you up to, hey. Like, you know, you're qualified for this, this, and this. But I think the NFT gives you initial access to, like, the in... Like, there's, like, an intro room, and then there's, I think, two or three that are there that, I think two deals closed already. But it's gonna be interesting to see kinda how this whole thing unfolds. But I don't know if you guys remember the MakerDAO, or excuse me, the DAO maker meta where everybody started, like, launching, like, these quote VCs. You get it early, you stake some stuff, and blah blah blah. A lot of them... I got burned on a couple, but I also did really, really well on a few of them. And I mean really well. You only need, like, one or two of these things to hit sometimes, and and it worked out for me. But Station X, I'll post the link obviously down below in the in the comments if anybody wants to check it out. And, again, September 8, I think it is, for, like, minting an NFT, but it's pretty cool. And the video... They... The content is dope, and it's really, really good stuff. The videos they make are super, like, beginner friendly, so everyone, like, kinda gets it. Yeah. So check that out. What else? What else we got cooking kids? Anything else in the timeline? Cool. Any other new stories, Nat? Any other new stories that, we might have missed?
[1:10:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah, Lindy. So just coming across the wire a little while ago was the SEC and CFTC proof spot trading for a select, for select cryptocurrencies on US registered exchanges. And I I know I saw the list somewhere. Cool. Maybe you you have a post. I I don't recall what the list was. But if somebody wants to find that and post it up, and then, the house oversight committee released, the Epstein files, none that posted up earlier, and then the, direct account here on x has posted it up with links to all the docs, like, 30,000 pages. So a little unrelated to crypto, but you never know. Maybe there's some crypto billionaires.
[1:11:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What... Wait. What about the Epstein list? What did you say?
[1:11:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: The house oversight committee subpoenaed, all the records from the, from the Epstein files that that are public... That they have available in the US government, and they got back, like, 33,000 pages. And they now released that. So far, it's being reported that they're pretty clear. There might... There's... We're gonna find redactions no matter what, but they're they're just coming through it. I mean, it's gonna take a long time to go through 33,000 pages, so we'll find out. They they went through, and they're they're the ones that are supposedly gonna be delivering that to the DOJ. We'll find out what happens next.
[1:12:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: This is great. I have a... Of of a of a predictions market that said that they would release it before the end of this year. So I've gotta look at that bet I made, like, couple months back.
[1:12:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Really? Where where did you take the bet? You really made a bet on it?
[1:12:26] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I think it got, like, 30¢ or it's, like, 35¢ on the dollar or something. Yeah. But it was on Foresight, which is on Katana. So, yeah, I I did, like, a small bet just for fun. But, yeah
[1:12:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: say I didn't see any market go up on it that I could bet on because I would've I would've taken the long on that one. Yeah. It was would've been the yes.
[1:12:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. It was the yes because it didn't, like, specify, like, all the Epstein files or... You know what I mean? Like, it was just like, will they release something? So I was like, this is pretty obvious now, but maybe it was just me.
[1:12:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy. Yeah. Good shit, Colbert. Landy, real quick before I go to build on Empress. Landy, are you gonna be providing liquidity for these prediction markets? It seems like there's gonna be big money here. Like, is this something you're looking at, like... Or have looked at at all or or plan on? Just curious.
[1:13:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... No. Because I don't really know where the liquidity pools are gonna be for some of these because there are some that are up, and they're, like, really low liquidity. Maybe Brad can help guide me in that direction because I'm not really sure where on chain to provide liquidity to this stuff. A lot of this stuff in terms of liquidity is being trapped by a lot of these larger players in their own siloed markets. So it's literally... You're just going and betting on the volume, and and and there's no place to, like, add a pair or anything or even, you know, go single sided. Now there are markets that are being put up on chain, but they're just side markets. They're not they're not really tied to the actual liquidity in those betting markets. So I don't feel comfortable with that until I see something that's official.
[1:13:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair enough. Alright. Cool. Yeah. I think this is something to... Something to notice. But, Brett, I'm with you. I downloaded CaliSheet. You gotta teach me how to get the API keys, but I spent all morning trying to figure it out. Was looking at the docs, and then GPT is telling me, no. You need, like, a general API key, and then
[1:14:12] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Just to your settings. It did... They're right in your CaliSheet settings.
[1:14:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. Not for me. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I
[1:14:17] Samara @thee_samara: looked at
[1:14:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: settings a million times. But... Yeah. Put me in the in the chat.
[1:14:21] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. For sure. I got you. Also, real quick, I I forget who was talking. Just real quick up top, whoever was the, you know, the anti birds fan loves the steelers. That was Billy's choice to do that yesterday or the day before. So there you go. We can move on.
[1:14:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Shout out to Pittsburgh. Bill, don't go for it, then we'll go to Empress.
[1:14:41] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: I mean, if Empress says something on this topic, by all means, she should go first because I was gonna say something else. But she's
[1:14:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: say something something else. She was gonna
[1:14:50] Samara @thee_samara: else. Go for it.
[1:14:51] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Did you see or did you cover at all what I sent you?
[1:14:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no.
[1:14:55] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: Please. Gemini offering a public offering?
[1:15:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I did not, bro. My bad. What... You wanna... Do wanna fill us in real quick?
[1:15:05] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: So Gemini announces launch of initial public offering?
[1:15:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Oh, Gemini IPO. The actual gem... Gemini The Exchange is actually gonna IPO. Yeah.
[1:15:16] Samara @thee_samara: Nice. They
[1:15:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: announced for a little while, but are they... Did they have any new announcements, Bildo?
[1:15:22] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: I'm just old and behind. Sorry.
[1:15:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, you're good.
[1:15:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: They they... It was, like, two weeks ago they announced that they were gonna IPO. I was just wondering if they did an update because that's what everybody's been waiting for. If you... If you're seeing it now I just saw, like, a
[1:15:35] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: large investment firm post about it this morning, so I figured it would be relevant because they're typically pretty relevant. So, like, it looks like it's a full breakdown of, like, how many shares are available, all of that fun stuff. I don't know if that's been released, but if...
[1:15:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. That wasn't. So that's that's... Can you can you pin that or or put it in the comments? I'd like to read that too.
[1:15:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. No. Thank you, Bill. And, you know, the... And thanks for the other article, the the the... What's it called? The fifty t funds article. Bro, I gave that summary, bro. People like that. That's such a great, like, this weekend crypto, like, just summary. I just took... I literally just copy pasted that and just ran it through one of, like, my my simplified prompts, but that shit was gold. Like, it went down. I mean, I should probably have used this at the end of the day for, like, the settings. It's
[1:16:22] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: the 50 funds. It's like a... So, you know, like, I've told you about the 10 funds.
[1:16:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep.
[1:16:29] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: They've essentially started a new one called 50, so now it's going to 50,000,000,000,000 instead of 10.
[1:16:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: So instead of 10,000,000,000,000, this
[1:16:38] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: is their 50,000,000,000,000 fund.
[1:16:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And this was... I saw a lot of you obviously interacted with this. This was great, great info. It said US government posted GPT data on the blockchain with Coinbase and Kraken. Google Cloud launched Universal Ledger. Trump Media Group, crypto.com, we covered that. Jupiter lend on Solana was live with 465,000,000 in TVL. Aave Horizon is institutional lending with real world assets as collateral. That's big. We talked about the Gemini XRP card, which, by the way, cool, jumped to number one finance app in the App Store. I don't know if that qualifies. Maybe it's just Coinbase, but Gemini's XRP credit card jumped to the number one finance app in the App Store. I guess we'll see. CFTC door, opening doors for offshore exchanges to legally serve US customers. Shout out to the CFTC, bread in the prediction markets. And Amolca takes full control of the sandbox. Oh, I did have this one question I needed to ask you guys. Has anybody ever heard of... I'm gonna I'm gonna pin this up. Somebody added me to a group chat, a company called TDX or an account called TDX, Tom David X-ray. Did anybody get DMs from this account? They added me to a group chat, like, you know how we normally used to do with, like, Wagmy Hub, and I'm in there with, like like, Sebastian Borje, the founder of Sandbox, the founder of Kernel. And call me crazy, but I was reading this weekend. Anybody read that story about the guy who thought he was in a WhatsApp chat and lost $1,250,000? He thought he was in there with mister Beast. Did you guys hear about this? That was crazy, crazy work. Monica, you you... Like, I mean, I read this, and I'm like, oh my god. They took this guy for so much. So now I'm jaded. I'm in there, and I'm like, is this really Sebastian Bourget? Is this really the cofounder of Gate Ventures? Is this really... And I'm, like, second guessing ever. I literally wanna pop off and be like, nice try, motherfuckers, and just fucking bounce because I think it's all bullshit. But there's a part of me that's like, what if this is kind of real? They just asked me for an email. So I gave them a Fugazi email, and they have my telegram. I didn't give them anything else. I don't know. Anybody? Anyone?
[1:18:45] Moni @monitalan: Don't sell the... Don't send them a million dollars, I guess, would be my advice.
[1:18:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think I'm good on that front, to be perfectly honest. I think, yeah, I think we're... I'm covered there for sure.
[1:18:55] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, you know, it's also important to note, though, like, the... Because I read that story too, but that shit was crazy. I think I was in a space and somebody was talking about it or some shit. But, like, ultimately, like, it it was multiple transactions. It wasn't just, like, one lump sum sent to, like, this fake person or whatever. Like, it was some serious social engineering. You know? As a reminder, most people aren't gonna get brute force hacked, you know, like, unless you just open up your system like certain people by going to Zoom links that
[1:19:21] Bildo Verde @BildoVerde: are garbage
[1:19:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: and whatever whatever. Hey. I didn't call anybody out, bro. But, ultimately, listen. Yo. But he was socially engineered hardcore. Just move carefully. Don't rush through shit when you talk to anybody. Anytime there's money, just don't move. Slow down. Slow down.
[1:19:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That... That's the message for all social engineering, but the the thing that got me was his turning point was when he realized that there was a plus four four number in front of mister Beast's name. And he was like, wait a minute. Why does mister beast have a a a a plus four four, like, a UK number or four one, whatever it was? And it's like, bro, you said 500000, then you said 750000 or, like, vice versa, whatever. But, like, you said 1250000 to somebody, and you are not picking up the phone to call that person and be like, yo. I'm sending you 500,000? Are you kidding? I'm a
[1:20:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: Test transactions, bro. Test transactions.
[1:20:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: You always bro. This is crazy.
[1:20:17] Bread @_ToastMalone: $10. Crazy. Did you get it? Cool. Alright. Here's the rest. Like...
[1:20:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's nuts. That's crazy. Yeah. Empress, go for it. And then we'll go to... Oh, Bing's left. Oh, he couldn't hang out. Shoot. It is what it is. Bad call on the meme coin. Anyways, Emp, go for it.
[1:20:32] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Yeah. I'm I'm trying to explain to Brett and Landy, but I really think it's relevant to everyone if I'm right. MetaMask has a new feature called smart contracts. I believe that
[1:20:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: you mean?
[1:20:45] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Yeah. Smart accounts. Sorry. I believe that if you turn this on, it adds a delegate address to your wallet.
[1:20:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Correct. You are correct.
[1:20:56] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Okay. Well, why why when I asked you and Landy and and whatever, everybody's asking me back. What what happened?
[1:21:03] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, the... You... Yeah. You messaged me, and I... I'm just... I was confused. I thought something had happened. I was, like, more concerned. I was like, well, what do you mean? What happened? Like
[1:21:10] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: So if you go to revoke dot cache, it changes, like, at the top... Because a lot of OGs at least go to revoke dot cache pretty frequently. You'll see at the top, it says it delegate on your thing. But, like, if you hit the delegate tab and things like that, it's not there, and you can't revoke that status. And so it's it's worth noticing because you don't wanna go into blind panic, but it is tied directly to MetaMask. But what I don't understand, and maybe Brad could clarify, how much exposure that leaves to your assets if you have that smart account turned on and if you shouldn't have it turned on and what that that means safety wise for for our wallets.
[1:21:55] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. So, like, ultimately, it's just... It acts as a middleman. It's a smart contract that's deployed that you are technically, like, the owner of or the master controller of that smart contract when it's deployed, and it acts as a middleman. So anything that you give permission to that smart contract to do, if your wallet gets compromised, your main wallet also is the owner of that delegate smart contract that can go and do things. Right? And so it's kind of, you know, it's one extra step, essentially, in in the security process. And I'm not sure with this smart account if you can ultimately, like, nuke it, like self destruct, you know, because there are... There there are ways to do that. I haven't looked into the the guts of the MetaMask smart accounts. But, like, there are ways to essentially... You can have self destruct where if your wallet is compromised, a third party or someone or two thirds, a multisigonosis can, like, call that smart contract, self destruct it, and now at least anything that it had delegate access to would be safe.
[1:22:59] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: That was weird. I found this stuff that kinda explained why I suddenly had a delegate address, but what I didn't find is is what good turning the smart accounts on did. Like, it just doesn't make any sense.
[1:23:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I think... Yeah. So... But if if I can, from what I from what I read when I... Because I, you guys know I got I got my new MacBook recently. Right? So I had to put MetaMask on as one of my, my wife reluctantly, but I did it. And I think one of the biggest things from what I was reading was you could do, like, the, like, social recovery. I enabled it because I just remember, like, what EOAs were, but there was, like... This is EOAs, but, like, kind of, like, a little bit, like, like, higher... I guess, more customizability, I guess, if you will. I haven't used these features yet, but I think you can set, like, social recoveries and shit. So it's not, like, one seed phrase and then you're fucked. Right? So you can do, like, seed phrase, phone, like, social recovery stuff. That... That's all I remember reading. I don't remember... I genuinely don't remember much else, but I think it's, like, it's, you know, like, it's... Yeah. Like, put the... I don't know what the hell the term is that I'm looking for here, but, you know, like, training wheels or, like, baby steps, whatever.
[1:24:12] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: Whatever you call but, like, bumpers.
[1:24:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bumpers. Yeah. Exactly. Like, bumper ball. Perfect. Like, bumper bowling. Right? Like, take your time. Take it easy. Like... And this helps you kinda, like, with that in case you fuck something up. It's not like, oh my god. Somebody has my c phrase, and all of sudden, like, that's it. Like, I'm done. But it also helps you with a bunch of other stuff, like... So, like, it... Like, a lot of gas. Like, thinking it was something like gas, like, something like gas and batching.
[1:24:34] 𝑬𝑴𝑷𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈⋮ @Hope_ology: But people need to know it's there because when my wallet was compromised, it turns out I actually fixed it a lot sooner than I thought I had because I've been spending the rest of the day trying to get rid of this delegation that I didn't realize I did because I didn't know what that was. So yay. My wallet's no longer compromised. But, also, for people who do run into those problems and realize they can't revoke and whatever else, chances are they're tied to a seven seven zero two delegate contract from turning on the smart accounts on their MetaMask. Look. Delta neutral and dev ing. I'm growing.
[1:25:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Look at this.
[1:25:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Seats hands. Give it give it a hug. Good luck with this.
[1:25:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. We have the last five minutes. We have the general back.
[1:25:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. General, I I promise you the last five minutes, my bro. Thank you for being patient, Fingus. Tell us what what DUC is, bro. Let's go.
[1:25:31] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Totally. And and, Dave, I know it's like... I... I've been traveling and Internet's been spotty, so I I... It's like I dropped and come back a handful of times. So it's starting to make you you you click over time. Y'all are a wild bunch. I love it. Very smart. I've been I've been surfing the space... Surfing spaces, like, over the past four days, and there's a lot of garbage out there. And so it's, like, it's totally refreshing to to, like, join a space that's... With, like, a 120 IQ folks. So, Dave, thanks for thanks for having me, and I'm glad we were able to connect over DMs. I think I'd give you a... Like, you know, I've I've been doing a lot of DMs as well, you know, just to kind of evangelize on Stablecoin. And I think I hard shelled you at, like, maybe 34... 9, $38,000,000 market cap a couple days ago, and and we've seen... Like, we kinda reached... We reached... We definitely reached another leg up. I don't really like talking price a whole lot. I... You know, and a lot of us on the team don't just kind of based on where we come from and and what we've we've done. I got into the the meme seven... About seven weeks ago because I... Just because... Just like you did. Because I saw it, and I liked it. It... I got it. Right? It's like, okay. On state... You know, there's hundreds of stablecoins on now. It's, like, think, 290. Every week, you know, a sovereign wealth fund, a state like Wyoming, a ban... An institution bank, not just USD 1, you know, Trump introducing USD 1 on Solana. Like, the the memetic potential just around hundreds of stablecoins, one on... One unstablecoin, volatility is the utility, unstable your stables. The memetic potential is there, but it also, like, it also attracts, like, the nerds. And it's... You know, like, I think within our... Within first couple weeks within, you know, launching, just one dude in the community, did a layer zero bridge to ETH. So we got the the ETH contract. A couple weeks later, another nerd on on the team did, worked with DIA to do Oracle pricing to kinda set the stage for, you know, for some DAX stuff and Aave and and and other things, you know, to enable lending down the road. At $12,000,000 market cap, we got spot on Kraken. And so, like, I I scaled in at, like... You know, I scaled in. And then when it when it pumped, you know, when it pumped, like, a week after, I scaled in seven weeks ago, because I I... But tell us
[1:28:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: what the main thing is. Like, tell us, like, it's called unstable coin. Like, give us, like, the quick mantra of, like like, what exactly is the... Like, what's the what's the meme?
[1:28:21] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Totally. It's it's an unstable coin. A stable coin is pegged to the dollar, and, this one's not pegged. With stable coins, you you get you get, you get safe, you know, safety, but you don't get upside. Here you... And and that's the meme. It's very simple. Price magnet right now right now, it's at, like, what, 5¢? So magnet's a dollar. But the goal is to... It's it's a mission. It's a it's a mission token as well. The goal is to flip every every stablecoin's market cap. So we just flipped Gemini's market cap at at at about $50,000,000. And so one... But we have the great unstabling.com, which folks can go to and track, you know, like... Which Gemini?
[1:29:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: When you say Gemini's market, which Gemini are you talking about?
[1:29:11] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: So Gemini has their own stablecoin. And Gemini has...
[1:29:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Gemini stablecoin market cap. Oh, got it. Got it.
[1:29:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: Got
[1:29:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. Okay. Sorry. Go ahead.
[1:29:20] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Yeah. So there's 200 nineties now of stablecoins. They all have their own market cap. For example, USDC has a market cap of 80... I'm sorry. $70,000,000,000. So the goal right now... Right? Like like, that's that's the delusional... When you look at, like, what memes... And I know there's a handful of folks in this room that are, like, you know, I sense... I've seen before, you know, meme maxes, they kind of, you know, see what what delusional belief, like, enables to get, like, to the multibillion dollar caps. It's these these folks that are willing to round trip tens of millions of dollars. The whales that are willing to round because they believe they have that delusional belief. And so, like, when you look at Farcoin SPX with Popcat others, it's like you can track the wall. It's these whales that that hold hold hold down. They get in, and they just hold down because they're they're true believers. And so, like, when... So that's kind of the... I'll pause there. I can kinda talk a little bit more about the team and, like, what's so wild is, like, I found this just like you did without knowing who's behind it. And then as I continue scaling and more, contributing more, it's like, oh my gosh. It's it's Kuppy who did the PopCat CTO. It's, Yugong, who's the mini CTO lead. So it's like a lot of these Murad's disciples. And then it's like ETH heads, some link heads, and and and and now we've started kind of attracting more, like... You know, we we just got a, like, a 20 page... Yeah. By, like, some VC that's that's kind of now really snatched their investors. But I'll pause there. It's it's it's really dumb. Like, as I'm... You know, it's it's it's that blend being super dumb and super smart, you know, at at at the same time. So I'll pause there. That's kind of...
[1:31:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let... Let's... I'll say I'll say this, bro. Like, like, the meme coin game, it might fall on deaf ears for some of, like, the 120 IQ crowd here, but we're no strangers to, like, where the potential opportunities, I think, might lie. But I kinda get the... And for the record, guys, I I don't own I don't own this token. I did not buy into it just yet. I I asked for the CA contract address. I I don't own this fucking... I don't own the coin. But wait. Where's the market cap now? The thing is We're at 50,000,000. Damn. Okay. My bad.... Hit 75,000,000.
[1:31:44] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: The thing is nothing's happened yet. Nothing's happened yet. Like... What's on tap? What's the deal?
[1:31:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's that? What's on tap? Like, what do you guys have planned? Like, I mean, like, is there, like, activations happening? It's not like this. Not You're gonna do the same bullshit, like, Times Square, blah blah blah, whatever.
[1:32:00] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: No. No. No. No. No. No. There's no... Well, there's no plans for NFTs. There's no plans for there's no plans plans for IRL events. It's the same playbook, the same approach that works... That has worked well in the past with just, you know, a different, you know, the the relevant meta. Like, every week, a new stablecoin gets launched. Boom. That's... That is the reminder. That's that's the amount of potential for unstablecoin.
[1:32:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like I like it, bro. I don't... Like, yo, to me, that's that's power... That's powerful. Right? Like SPX, I didn't see it until way later, but, like, that makes sense to me. It's like, we're gonna flip the S and P. I mean, good luck now. I mean, who knows? S and P is hitting all time highs, so they have a way to go. But that meta, like, people bought into that. Like, they really did. Landy, I'm curious. Like, what do you think? Unstablecoin? You're gonna start providing liquidity for Unstablecoin, bro, or what?
[1:32:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So this one was being dropped across various chats a while back. I wanna say... Was it, like, June, July time frame or something like that when it when it launched or dropped? And it was being... Yep. You know, there was there was quite a lot of people getting into it. And the liquidity was good, so I did provide, liquidity, single sided liquidity to get in because I I thought I was catching it late. It was, like, I don't like, eight to ten or something like that. It was consolidating for a little while, and it didn't get the big sell off that I was expecting. So I just stayed in it. I have it in a wallet somewhere. Not a lot of it, but I've been watching it a little bit and then saw it popping up again as it, started to run last month and then again, what was it, like, just last week or something? It ran really hard into this week. So... Yeah. I mean, it's it's a meme coin, and and, you know, I thought it was funny. At first, when Fred opened up the unstable stablecoins, I thought that Fred was gonna talk about it at one point in that space the other day, and, it it was not about that. But it... Yeah. It is something that I'm aware of. It... The contract is kinda being dropped everywhere in various group chats. And I didn't really think much of it, but the volume was really good and the liquidity was good. When you're looking at the liquidity versus market cap at the time, it was staying stable. People weren't clipping out. So I was like, you know what? It's... You might as well provide liquidity in the concentrated range. And, and, you know, if you can get tokens while you're in there on single sided, then, you know, that's how you can average in. That's what I like to do, especially because I like to check. I don't like to to to just eight contracts. Right? It's it's not not the way that I like to go. I'd like to see if they're gonna actually have some life to them after they get the initial pump. And if they dump off, you know, then... Okay. If they're still if they're still showing volume, then I'll get in the liquidity pool, and I'll and I'll enter that way or maybe pick up a little bag spot side. But... Yeah. I mean, it's not something that I ate into or even, like, I just provide some liquidity, got some tokens, get some exposure, and have a little bit of fun at the same time. It's up substantially. I I I didn't even look, but I I... I'm looking at the chart now. It held that level at, like, 8 to 9 mil. This thing didn't really get a massive sell off. Like, so What's
[1:35:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: the what's the volume, Landy? What's the twenty four hour volume on this?
[1:35:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, alright. Let me go back and look. Twenty four hour volume.
[1:35:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Look Was it, like, tens of millions, or is it, like, above a million? Like, where we at?
[1:35:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, at the time, it was putting on a ton of volume in the millions. Yeah. Twenty four hour volume is at 2.7 mil right now.
[1:35:47] Voice I: That's not bad.
[1:35:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. It's... And and it was it was actually still... It was, like, around a mil, a mil and 0.5 even when it was down on the lows. So, you know, some bigger buyers came in. The other day, it was it was substantially higher. There was, like, three or four mil in in volume and and and more if you're looking at just depending on the pools that you're looking at. But, yeah, it's it's it's solid. There's... That's what I look for when I'm looking
[1:36:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: at I'll add
[1:36:14] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: just on volume.
[1:36:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Go ahead.
[1:36:16] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: I'll add on... It's it's... We're actually at $7,000,000 daily volume once you include Kraken.
[1:36:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm just looking at a single liquidity pool, and that's the main pump pool, and then there's some side pools and stuff
[1:36:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: like that. Yeah. That's not bad. You know, so Bingus, check this out. Right? So I know... So the show's coming to a close, and we're gonna close out. But what I wanna do is... You're not a founder on the team. Right? But, like, I wanna chat with you about maybe, like, creating some content for you guys and maybe doing something because I like... Like, for me, like, if I find, like, a meme coin that kinda makes sense, you know, like, you guys remember how cool it's, like, really monstrous on, like, WEN token? Like, that's how I kinda... Like, this resonates with me. Like, it's just every once in a while, like, something is gonna resonate a little bit, but the thing is let's definitely chat in the back channel because I wanna talk to you and maybe, like, we chat with the team about maybe doing something together, bro, if that's cool with you. But thank you, bro. Thank you for coming up and and and, obviously, for being patient and for giving us the the info, bro. Appreciate you.
[1:37:13] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Totally. Great space, Dave. Thank you.
[1:37:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. My pleasure, man. Thank you. Guys, that's ATC. It's Tuesday. I thought it was Monday. Yes. Tamara, go for it, man.
[1:37:24] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah, man. Yeah. I just wanted to... The last time we had the space, I wanna say thank you guys to... You guys who showed love, last space because of my work got hacked and everything. So, yeah, chance to you guys. They just sent me something. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. You didn't have to, but you did, but still thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you, Sam. Thank you. Of course,
[1:37:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: bro. Of course. Of course, man. And, yo, Samar... Bro, Samar, we gotta send up some... I'm I'm telling you, Samar, that all things crypto dot I'll I'll shill it all over the place, bro. Like, what... Every little donate... Every little bit helps. You know? I know, like, for myself, I wasn't able to donate a big bunch, but at the end of the day, like, everyone donates what they can. And, Samara, I know that you're grateful for it, bro, and you're super valuable here, dude. And I hope that I hope, I hope, I hope that you're gonna use this to kinda bounce back and engineer goes through, like, keep kicking ass, man. So... Yeah, man. It was our play... I can speak for everybody that's on this panel right now. Like, you are not... You don't even have to thank us. Like, you're most welcome. And, yeah, bro, you're a massively valuable asset here. So appreciate you, Judith. Cool. Nat, anything before we go? Are we good?
[1:38:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I just wanna... A quick reminder, guys. We have some serious reports coming out the next few days. Tomorrow at 10AM, we have job openings, and and then we have nonfarm payrolls on Friday. Keep in mind, right, that regardless of what polymarket says, the Fed is leaning on these reports to make that decision. Okay? Sorry, Brett. Sorry.
[1:38:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll I'll
[1:38:51] Bread @_ToastMalone: leave you with one last question. Hang on. Wait. Wait. I would say I will partially agree. Don't take it from one source. Also, check the line on Kalshi, Myriad Markets as well.
[1:39:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Are are you guys saying that cutting rates, man? Yo. I'm I'm putting a big a big bet, man. I'm cutting rates in September. It's September 17. Right? Are you are you rocking me, man? Well, I'm I'm live right now on YouTube, though. We'll real quick. Look. Not not... I might be robbed at the current race in September or no?
[1:39:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let me jump in here, and I'm gonna tell you...
[1:39:19] Voice I: Go ahead, man. You
[1:39:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: tear these walls down. I'm gonna jump in here for just a moment. What I'm gonna tell you is that the market the market itself... Okay. So when you're looking at the treasury auctions on the short end of the yield curve, that's your thirteen and twenty six week, your your twenty six week auctions for treasuries, they are pricing in a cut. So the cut for September would be priced in. Alright? Now on the other side, you must know you must must... Uh-oh. You know, Elon's gonna rug us now. You must Yeah.
[1:39:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh. Know.
[1:39:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: You must know the risk. And the risk is that the economic data is a toss-up, meaning it is really... In reality, where where we all like to actually live sometimes, every once in a while when we touch grass, is a fifty fifty. But I'm gonna tell you, if they cut, it's priced in. If they don't, be prepared because the market is pricing it in, and that is going to be bad. If they don't Yeah. If they hold, that's bad.
[1:40:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: The short side. Yeah.
[1:40:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's Alright.
[1:40:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm gonna be on the right one of this one, and I would have listened to you guys. And if I'm wrong, I'm gonna come back and give you both shits. Either way, I win.
[1:40:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, no. Because we're not saying that they're not gonna cut in September. What we're saying is
[1:40:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: politically correct. I... You know, you What we're
[1:40:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: saying is
[1:40:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: there's always a chance. There's even fifty fifty.
[1:40:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's fifty fifty. It's literally a coin flip. And, Dave, you know this from being in markets. This is a true coin flip to the point where there's experts out there that are confused about the economic data, the markets, the bond markets, and they're all over the place. They don't even know which way to go. They're like, is it imploding? Is this terrible, or is this great? I'm not sure. It's literally right where the Fed is too. They're like, what do we do? Do
[1:41:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: But he... Literally, but he
[1:41:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Last day. It could be, like, right during the meeting. Like, ah, just
[1:41:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: screw it. Fuck it. Cut him. Cut him. Cut him. Cut Cut him. We don't know. Good shit, Landy. No. I appreciate the color. Bingus, go for it, then we're gonna close out.
[1:41:32] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Yeah. One one thing I didn't hear in the in the chat, was Solana ETF approval deadline for October 15. That's... Or mid October. That's one bullish catalyst I'm super excited about for for the space. I think we'll see that front run, once the whispering starts, maybe, like, ends of September or first week of October, hopefully. So, just some...
[1:41:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: So the alarm is back up and cooking. Yeah. Great point, bro. Salon is... That's... Yo. Great point because Salon is literally two zero seven, two zero eight. Was just seeing... You know, Salon is gonna start breaking all time highs very, very, very soon. So if you don't have a Salon bag, we'll see. But, I think that ETF goes through. No problem. But, great great stuff, Bingus. Cool. Nat, thank you. Empress Landy, Monica, as always. Brad, Samara, Bingus, appreciate you. Adrian,, obviously, that came through, and everybody else that that comes in and tunes in and listens to us. Everybody down there, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, guys, and we'll see y'all tomorrow, man. Peace.
[1:42:33] General Bingus.usduc @GeneralBingus_: Cheers.