All Things Crypto: Kaito Whales Splash Wallchain Pond, Rate Cuts

# All Things Crypto: Kaito Whales Splash Wallchain Pond, Rate Cuts | 2025-09-17 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1mnxeNDEbzbKX | status: approved
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[0:01:10] Voice M: What up, cool? What up, Mason? What up, Yara? What up, MetaVision, Monica? MetaVee?
[0:01:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. By the way, fired Nat today. Sorry.
[0:01:21] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, damn. I was gonna... I was waiting for her to come in and say, what's going on
[0:01:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: in here?
[0:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. That's required. I thought
[0:01:30] Moni @monitalan: she was gonna ask what song that was.
[0:01:35] Moni @monitalan: I love that. I'm just kidding.
[0:01:52] Voice M: What up, Jack? What up, Justice? Oh, I see you. Beijing, what's good?
[0:02:36] Voice M: What up, bro?
[0:02:38] Voice I: Champy's in
[0:02:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: the building. Let's go, baby.
[0:03:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let me stop. What's up, everybody? Welcome to ATC. It's probably a funny acronym I could throw in there. Someway, somehow, that has to... A similar... Someway, somehow to a virgin of some sort, but I'm not gonna do it. Where the hell is Nat? What is going on? Is she boycotting me right now? I refuse to believe it. There's no way. But, yo, shout out to everybody that's here. What's good? I see everybody in the crowd. What up? Jamcie, what's good? Metavision, Rose, Gex, miss a, what's cooking? Mainzy. Yayo, TruMedia, what's happening? We got a lot to chat about today.
[0:03:34] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: She gonna make you sweat.
[0:03:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? You're gonna make you sweat? Yeah. She is trying to make me sweat. She's doing this on purpose. You know this. Right? And then she gonna come and be like, like, the baby. It was the baby. What am I gonna say? I can't say nothing when she's like, it's the baby. Like, what am I gonna say? No. Don't go to the baby. Right? It's impossible. No. I can't win in that situation. But either way, there's a lot for us to chat about today, guys. Obviously, FOMC meeting, Aster came out. CZ is trying to compete now with Hyperliquid. Wallchain algorithm is going wild. Koma's favorite friend is literally doing some wild shit. The reply guys apparently are gaming the algorithms on Wallchain. I got selected, cool, as the numero uno aligner, baby. I have no idea what they're offering, but I could be number one in the line of nothings to be... For as far as all... As far as I know. But, hey, I'm first for something, and I guess we'll see. But what's good? Cool. What's up, bro?
[0:04:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. What's up, guys? How you guys doing? Happy Wednesday. Let's go. I'm ready for the show. Hey, Dan. I think I'm gonna step down real quick. My phone about to die. Let me switch my my other phone. Okay?
[0:04:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Sounds good. It's very coincidental that your phone is dying the second that Nat Nat shows up. Alright. Hola, Arena?
[0:04:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's a conspiracy, I tell you.
[0:04:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. Right, Metabee? I know. I know. Maybe she, like, tapped in, like, silently and heard the, like, a virgin intro and was like, no. I'm not doing this. But now let me guess. The baby was crying.
[0:05:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I had to reset my phone. X was bugging. It won't let me log in.
[0:05:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my goodness. Okay. Well, I'm glad you're here. Damn. I thought you were, like, boycott protest. I was like, okay. You're not really fired.
[0:05:15] yurii @kyparus: What are we talking about? What?
[0:05:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, no. No. No. I got HR with me. What are you talking about? I already called them. I sent them an email. I sent them screenshots. I got receipts, Dave. Okay? You better watch out.
[0:05:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Did you see my comment though? I was like, yo. We're going to the Coldplay concert. I'll have her... I'll tell her you said what's up. Nothing?
[0:05:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Nobody like that?
[0:05:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: I I did see that. I was about say now everyone's plotting against me. Is it because I'm Hispanic?
[0:05:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Oh my god. Man, Monica, help me out here. That was a good... Like, I was like, yo. We're gonna be at the cold... She said I'm calling HR, I'm like, we're gonna be at the Coldplay concert. Come on. Somebody help me here. But it's all good. What's up, Monica?
[0:05:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yo.
[0:05:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: There you go. What's up, Monica? You good? How was your day?
[0:06:02] Moni @monitalan: Oh, good. Yes. I actually... I had to work out some of my client stuff, some of my AI stuff. So good.
[0:06:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: Nice.
[0:06:10] Moni @monitalan: I'm trying to keep up with all the x stuff and wall chain. I wanna hear more about wall chain.
[0:06:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. We're definitely... We'll we'll definitely get into it. I feel like if I don't start with FOMC, might get shot. But x factor, what's up?
[0:06:22] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What's up, Dave? What's up, family? I hear you talking smack about Hispanics, so I had to jump in immediately just to make sure
[0:06:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: this doesn't escalate. I'm like, bro, he was.... Not true. I...
[0:06:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what? He was. I had to stop him from going down that hole because he was bashing all of us, and I was in my feelings. And to be honest, I was getting scared.
[0:06:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: This is this is what happens sometimes, man. White white people sometimes, man, you just... They don't know how to act. It's okay, and it's okay. What do you mean? We love you, Dave. We love you, bro. Wait. No. No. No. Don't you dare turn this on us. Don't you dare... What you... What?
[0:06:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Turn it on me.
[0:06:55] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm... No. No. No. White people are terrible. Oh my goodness. I'm happy to be here with you guys like always, and excited to talk about Wallchain, man. It's popping up all over our timeline. There's a couple of cool projects I'm interested in. I I literally was just telling Monica, you know, I got Limitless on my radar. And, obviously, we're trying to kick something up here that maybe, we're discussing perhaps. Yes or no? I'm not sure. I'm I'm, looking forward to, to speaking about it.
[0:07:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Zitto, man. Same. Shit's going crazy. Cool. You back now? You good?
[0:07:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yep. I'm good. I'm good, bro. I'm good.
[0:07:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Let's go. Good stuff. Meta Beast, what's up? You good?
[0:07:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I...
[0:07:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was a really white thing to say.
[0:07:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I... That's a yes.
[0:07:43] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: Oh, yeah.
[0:07:44] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Didn't... I did not repeat... It was not an I. It was it was an I.
[0:07:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was like a I. Yeah. I don't know. It sounds like a like a I I.
[0:07:53] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Dave. Were you were
[0:07:54] xFactor @xFactorPOL: you the first were you the first out of the the 26 for aligners, bro? Like, literally number one?
[0:08:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, yeah, I'm not one to brag, bro. Fuck. Yes. It is. Motion over here, bro.
[0:08:06] Moni @monitalan: Questions like didn't wanna... I I...
[0:08:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You gotta give you gotta give the man his flowers. Right? That's that's the motion right there. I'm just saying.
[0:08:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up? Thank you, x factor. I knew I knew it. The reason why I brought you on this show, bro. What a genius move. No. It... Yeah. Listen. At the end of the day, yeah, I'm the number one aligner, but I genuinely have no idea what aligners are. I look into what they're doing. I kinda... Like, I I I... Like, I I agree with kind of their whole premise of the whole, like, emission investing, token investing, trading NFTs as opposed to being able to literally just, like, dump tokens when, like, your clips on... You know, every time, like, your clips unlock or whatever, like, that's a big deal. You know what I'm saying? It's a very, very big deal. So, let's see.
[0:08:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Let's see how white paper looks solid. It's bullish. Yeah. It's bullish. Let's
[0:08:52] yurii @kyparus: just say that.
[0:08:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100%. Let's see. Nat, can we get to the FOMC stuff in a minute? I really do kinda wanna talk about this wall chain stuff. Is that okay? Alright. Dope. So wall chain has been going crazy. I don't know if you guys are in that quack chat also, but I've been getting hit up by a lot of people being like, what is going on with the algorithm? I've dropped, like, from, like, 30 to 200 and ta da da. And I'm thinking like, alright. That's just people maybe, like, either that are slacking, but, like, more and more... Like, this is getting louder and louder and louder. And lo and behold, you guys saw what I put in the ATC chat, whatever that dude's name is. Remember the guy that... Like, Coma's best friend or whatever? The guy Sky something that he came in that day and he was, like, hella pissed about because the guy literally is just a farmer and it's just nonsense? That guy who found himself at the top of the wall chain was like, I'm bringing all my homies with me. And I was like, oh, shit. You guys think we have a problem with the wall chain algorithm? Is this rocky waters? What are you guys seeing? Cool. I know you've been seeing this stuff, bro. What's the deal? So I I mean, I'm good.
[0:09:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: So I don't I don't know what you guys talking about. I'm I'm good. No. No. I think it's... This happens all the time. It's... Oh, it happens all the time whenever... Okay. So I... Look. So I blame Avantis for this. I blame Avantis. Avantis... This is all Avantis' fault. Avantis made people $30.40, $50, $100. I think the the number one yapper got, like, 627,000, number one. And it's probably one of the biggest rewards that it's been on that platform, the first one. So after after the advances airdrop to wall chain users, the word got out. Right? So people are going crazy now, expecting the the next big thing. A lot of the peep... People from Kaito are flying into Wallchain now heavily, and not not just regular people. A lot of the big the big, bigger accounts, on Wallchain, Oh, sorry. On Kaito are now flying into wall chain now. What's happening is just very simple. It's not not the... I don't think anything changed as far as the algorithm. What changed is you have a lot more people that have a much higher escort than you. A lot a lot of people have a higher pool than you that's joining the platform, and that's why you guys are dropping like that, man. You have, like, for example, the Sky the the Sky guy that... Or you know, comma, whatever, beef with whatever. He has about probably over... Almost a thousand x score. I mean, and about maybe three, 4,000 quacks. You can't compete against that, man. So even though you've been on wall chain for, like, three months, your competition now is people that are top 10, top 20 on on Kaito coming to wall chain. So it's it's just a game. The game is a game, man. You cannot... You can't be mad. It's just the way it is. You have more people that have more influence than you do, and it's pushing you down. Now for example, my bro panda dot eat. This dude was chilling on rank, like, top 20 on on on limitless for, like, three freaking months. The moment that the the advantage edge of happened, his ranking went from 30 to 300. So he... I mean, I... I'm hoping he does... I think, the top 500 users get to qualify for the reward. So... But it's it's getting... It's hard, man. It's hard because only 500 people get to qualify. And you're happy. Yeah.
[0:12:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Real quick. Someone in the comment section said to check your DM. He said it's pretty urgent.
[0:12:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. No. No. No. What's... What's the one I'm talking now? I'll check. I'll check it. Yes. Yes. That's that's what's happening right now. You have a a lot of users with a lot more pull, coming to Wall Street, and it's dropping a lot of people that don't have that much pull. That's base... Basically what the game is, bro.
[0:12:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Fair. Monica, go for it.
[0:12:53] Moni @monitalan: I just was gonna say, I think, actually, it's 250. The two... The top 250 for limitless qualify for the... For it. I don't think that's 500.
[0:13:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. I think that's...
[0:13:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: It is. I think it's air... It's the wall chain leaderboard specifically that people were be... Were pissed about. Right? Because when they see their ranking when... Like, Kula saying, when you see big names come over from Kaito, right, they have monster scores. One tweet literally pushes them. I mean, like, when you have mind share like that, like, that's the whole purpose of it. Right? Like, we got in early to to wall chain. Like, we had to just be stacking as many quacks as possible up to this point. Now we just gotta let the market and the algo do what it does. You know? Like, I'm with cool on this. Yeah.
[0:13:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And and and game is game too. Right? Like, now that you have all these new bigger mindshare folks coming in, it's gonna gonna it's gonna create more, attractiveness, let's say, for projects on Wallchain. So you're gonna get better better projects to to compete. So it's... It is what it is, guys. This is literally Infofy at its finest. It's it's great for the platform, honestly.
[0:14:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. You won't... You you... You're a 100% correct, bro. It's just, it's... I'm percent correct. It's... They they want influencers on this platform. It's just the way it is, bro.
[0:14:09] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That... That's exactly right. And then just to clear up the the limitless, I think it it is two fifty on the limitless leaderboard, but there's also... If anybody in the audience wants exposure, I think all you gotta do is get a minimum of $200 in volume on their platform, and you'll get a small airdrop coming your way as well. So that's a nice little way to get in the game.
[0:14:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great stuff.
[0:14:29] Moni @monitalan: Here I am putting $20.
[0:14:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Is that $200? Think volume. Right? You can
[0:14:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: make it happen with $20. It's all it's all about volume for the $200, not
[0:14:39] Moni @monitalan: I know.
[0:14:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Not profit, Monica. You know? I just put a 50 spot in there. I'll have $200 by tonight when I DGN on this crap.
[0:14:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: So, guys, quick question. Isn't it be... The way it's set up, doesn't automatically... The account with, like, the most followers, don't they automatically get, like, the top spot because of all the attention that they will bring to the post?
[0:15:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. No. No. So it's it's it's it's a combination of two things. Right? It's it's not necessarily followers. It's people with bigger influence. Meaning, for example, now I have almost 30,000 followers now, but there are some users. I have 6,000 followers that had... They have more influence than me because maybe... I... I'm not sure why, but but it happens like that sometimes. It's not about the number. It's about the the influence you have. And like I said, projects love the influence. I'm I'm not... It's so crazy. I don't know who decided this this shit. I'm sorry. Not not, but projects are paying people $50.60 grand, man, just just from tweeting because they they want that influence. So they're not necessarily rewarding the the testing users or people that use the platform. People that use use the platform for six months or two years are getting less rewards that people that have been on on... That talk about this platform for three, four weeks. So they, projects, for some reason... I guess, maybe since since Kaito launched, they treasure the the... You talking about their platform more than anything else, man.
[0:16:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Because people are pissed because, like, that guy doesn't talk about the projects. He talks about where he's at on the board. We're just tagging those projects. You know what I mean? So in a way, I kinda get the gripe. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'd be kinda pissed too where it's like... And then he gets to the top of the leaderboard, screenshots it, and it's like, I'm bringing all my homies with me because apparently, the reply guy strategy is like a monster what... Like, really counts. This is why I'm saying to people, like... And this is what... Like, hear me when I say this to you guys. Okay? Hear me when I say this. When you're out there, alright, and you're gonna engage with somebody's content, right, either you wanna be funny because they're your boy, this and that, whatever. But if you're doing it for the quack game, right, or the yap game, whatever, you better reply with something intelligent, tag somebody else, make a connection, do something relevant. Right? Because the conversation matters that happens in your... In those comments. If it's just like, I'm here. Sup, homie? What up, boss? Chilling. Yeah. Let's do it. Like, that stuff doesn't work. Right? So... And and and if you're not seeing something or if you're falling, like, this is what I tell people all the time. Like, I'm a cool... I'm cool. I'm so aligned with you on this where it's like, change something up. Right? The game is this game. If something isn't working, switch it up. You gotta change stuff up. You gotta see what else you can actually do to add to this genuine conversation that's happening on crypto Twitter. I mean, until they come out and they open source the whole algorithm and tell us is what you get for this and this is what you get for that, which is not gonna happen. Let's be honest. We've been screaming that from the rooftops for I don't know how long. It's just not gonna happen. Like, you gotta switch things up.
[0:17:53] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. And, Dave, you know, one thing too, like, it might work short term on on the reply guys and stuff like that, but you're gonna cook your account and you're gonna cook your brand. Right? Like, people notice that you'll get muted, you'll get blocked. It's it's a very short term strategy. But, look, we do have a dirty penguin in the listeners. If you wanna get Jamp over here, I'm sure he's got some good insight on, on watching if he's available.
[0:18:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yes. So I I remember the the last time Jampzy came on came on the show. I saw... Like, I've been using this dude as an example for the past two months. Last The time he came on the show, this is about almost two months ago, and he said... He... I mean, this is when Kaito was allowing the whole reply guy stuff. He said he was doing, like like, 1,500 replies per day, twelve hours on the computer per day. This is somebody that has probably almost a 100,000... I think over a 100,000 followers. Right? This dude... Yeah. I I... I've been using him as a... As an example on my show. Just telling people, look. If someone like this is grind... Grinding this much, you have no excuse, man. And if if you're dropping on a leaderboard, this is the reason why because you're having other people grinding more than you are. Because he's... He was doing twelve twelve hundred replies per day. He said between... He said about ten to twelve hours on the computer, almost seven days a week. This is what he was doing during the peak title time. That... That's what what what you have to do back then, and I'm I'm assuming Thank you could replicate what what what he did on what
[0:19:21] Moni @monitalan: Can you help me with the response?
[0:19:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Go ahead.
[0:19:25] Moni @monitalan: Sorry. No. Sorry. Sorry.
[0:19:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. I think Monica just resolved.
[0:19:29] Moni @monitalan: Unmuted by mistake. It was a mistake.
[0:19:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No.
[0:19:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: I I don't understand. If if you could replicate what Jamzah did back then on Wallchain, then you could probably do a lot better. But like I said, people are grinding IEM, and I think it's just... It's unfair. I get it, but the game is a game, man.
[0:19:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's true. It's really true. The same... Yo. I'll say this. Like, so people understand and have scope. It was only until Cool was like, yo, idiot. Tweet and post something about Avantis. And I'm like, okay. Okay. I'll do it. Okay. Fine. Right? I literally went to zero x a Hajj's post. I saw his article. Copy that bitch. Threw that into GPT. Like, made it nice nice, my own, did a nice little audio fucking podcast, excuse me, a podcast recording, right, on... In Gentspark. Put that stuff out. Then all of a sudden, somebody in the space was miss Lammy. Remember it was like, oh, yeah. Avantis, they have a partnership with BankerBot. I was like, sweet. There goes my second post, and now I have positions open on Avantis. It was literally maybe three or four tweets that got me in, like, the top whatever, 200, like, one... Or I ended up at, like, $1.19 or something like that off of, like, three, four tweets. So, like, imagine what could have been, right, if I would have done more, like, just looking at the price now. Like, that's real dollars and cents here. Real dollars and cents. Yeah, Moni. Go for it.
[0:20:50] Moni @monitalan: Well, two things. I don't think there's been such a big airdrop on Kaito, by the way, as with this. But maybe I'm wrong. Somebody can correct me. But I think the other part that... That's important is a lot of people complain about big accounts having an edge. But I think, Cole, what you just said is these accounts work really hard. I mean, they're not just sitting back and printing money. They're working really, really hard, and I think that's sometimes what surprises me, the misconception. Right?
[0:21:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Agreed. It's true. Like, because it's easy to throw, like, the bigger accounts under the bus. Right? And I'm not even... We're not even the big accounts even with, like, 20,000 whatever. Like, when you look at, like, the monster account now, like, that's... I'm looking at those whales coming from Kaito into Wallchain and being like, whew. Alright. At least I secured, like, six or 700 quacks so far before they got here. You know what I mean? Because, like, that's kind of the name of the game. Like, you gotta get in early to a bunch of things. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how this whole... Like, that's how this space works. End of story. But, yeah, it's gonna be interesting to watch When... And and, Monica, just so I'm clear, like, when you say, like, an airdrop as big as this, meaning, like, price action didn't do something this... Like, the price didn't do, like, the... As well as Avantis did, meaning, like, in such a short period of time to give people so much money?
[0:22:16] Moni @monitalan: Maybe that's what it is. Probably. Right? I think a combination. Maybe people didn't get as many tokens and then the price didn't spike up as much. I'm I'm trying to think. When did it's its airdrop, I think, like, Ansem and some of the big guys got, like, $200,000. Right? But I don't think anybody got 600,000.
[0:22:39] yurii @kyparus: True.
[0:22:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: But maybe... And and the... And... I mean, they didn't offer anything even and and they were jeeding that stuff quick quick if you remember. Right? Because Kaito then went on to do, like, crazy numb... Like, if they woulda held... Cool. Remember? Kaito went on to do $2.80 if I... If I'm not... Like, that that Anson 250 k would have been literally easy over almost a million dollars if he would have held on, like, even just a little bit longer. I think, like, the... I think when you have an airdrop that performs the way that Avantis has, anybody associated their name, their brand, whatever, to that token as a partner, aka banker bot and wall chain, is going to reap massive benefits. End of story. And we talked about it right here. Right? We screamed. We were like, yo. If this doesn't cook, like, Coinbase cabal, fees, like, on fleek. Right? Like, backed by the biggest names out here. Right? Like, being used across the board base. I mean, if this didn't succeed, then it's like, what will? So in a way, it's almost like it had to succeed. Like, it... That's not... And I told you so. That's like a... I don't know. Like, let's see what the next one is. And Samara told it too. He was just like, yo. Like, I think this is this is the one. So it's gonna be interesting to see how the rest plays out. Yeah. Cool.
[0:23:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. They they they played it right, man. They played it right, because if you have a a, a project that's competing competing against Kaito, you have to make waves, man, and they did. They they hit a home run with this. This was a touchdown. They did very, very well. They've been... I mean, that's the... I mean, it's very... It's... I mean, I was hoping this will happen because we got into watching very, very early, and we're gonna reap reap the benefits of this because we got there early. But what I'm saying is I'm I'm happy that Advantage did well because what is done is this is what they wanted. They wanted, to make noise, make make a big splash anyhow because advances was was was trending on CoinGecko, coin market cap, and people are talking about it. And on the weekend, I think it was number one or number two on Coinbase trading more than Ethan Solana. Something increased like that. It was doing crazy stuff. Even now, it's still holding up holding up pretty well. But what happens is, whenever a project is successful, it attracts users, and people wanna make money. Right? So people are assuming... People are assuming they'll make the same amount of money from, from, likes of Genome Protocol or Warchain or, the old ape chain, Quest right now or Elsa or, what's the other one? Or or, Limitless. Right? So people are pouring into watching right now more than... It... It's not just... Because... So when Kiteo had that big upgrade, it it it shut down a lot of smaller accounts. The smaller accounts ran to, Wallchain. We we... That's why they were enjoying the higher ranking. They were having fun. Once this edge of came out, it's attracted the bigger accounts on Kaito to come to Warchain now. Because, I said, the number one cracker got $670. That's more than Kaito. That's the largest that's the largest... Actually, that's the largest airdrop we've ever seen in this info five meta. But on... Unfortunately, like I said, it's it's it's the... It's sword because what what will happen is watch... I don't know, man. I hope that this doesn't mess up the smaller smaller accounts because they've been there for a while, man. And... Unfortunately, the game the game is rough, man. Because war chain doesn't give rewards to, like, the top, well, 2,000 or 5,000. Normally, two fifty to a 500. That's it. I'm I'm hoping I'm hoping maybe... I'm thinking what they might do for the the wall chain token itself. Maybe they might... Because, you know, we... We've been collecting badges. Right? Maybe they might allocate a larger amount to the users that have been there from day one because you've got... You you have all the badges, all the... Like, as you should... I I think, David, you should have at least four badges right now. So if you have your four badges, they they might allocate you more tokens. That that will protect users, smaller users, from getting wrecked by those, larger accounts. But like I said, Moon, Mumun is right. The large accounts, man, that I I can't do twelve hour... Twelve hour... Do you know what it means to sit on a computer for twelve hours, seven days a week, one thousand five hundred five hundred retreats per day? That is absolutely insane. I have a wife. I have two kids. I have two job. I have three job. Two two... I do two spaces a day. I'm busy, man. But that's why I don't I don't focus on them. I focus on myself, but people don't like bigger accounts because they tend to eat most of the cake. So but like I said, the game is
[0:27:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: the game, man. The game is the game.
[0:27:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: I love this because there's so many different ways that you can make money in crypto. Right?
[0:27:35] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You could do that.
[0:27:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: You can you can trade. You can invest. There's so many different ways, and I feel like the the opportunities, they're endless when it comes to crypto.
[0:27:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I I think... And and I do agree with you, but I think the reason why people like Infofy, they don't they don't necessarily put their money at risk. And and if they do, it's a small dollar amount. Look at Samara. Samara did, He he did, what's it called, Avantis for three weeks. Three weeks of typing, and he got, like, $13.15 grand for three weeks of work without putting your money at risk. That's why people love the info five star. People people go crazy for this stuff because you're not you're not putting your money at risk, not necessarily depending on the projects. Like, look at... Wait. Now the answer now go 2200 and 50K. He didn't do anything. He he, you know, he didn't do nothing for that kind of airdrop. What what what's that? What's six, seven months ago?
[0:28:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nothing.
[0:28:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: So that's why
[0:28:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: literally nothing.
[0:28:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Nothing. Nothing. You... I mean, that that... That's what doctors make per year, man. Doctors go to school for fifteen years, and he make this stuff within a couple of days. This this is why people like Infofy. Not not.
[0:28:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Got it. Go ahead, Monica.
[0:28:49] Moni @monitalan: Oh, I have a... I only have one badge.
[0:28:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's all was gonna say.
[0:28:52] Voice G: How many badges?
[0:28:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. I only got the early bird badge. What are you talking about?
[0:28:57] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Wait. How how long did you guys... How long how long have you guys been doing that? I got, like, five... I logged in literally yesterday after, like, completely disregarding it. I have, like, five badges on my account. I don't know how. The, the early one or the big early one, and then I Wait.
[0:29:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: What are the early one and what else? I
[0:29:13] xFactor @xFactorPOL: don't know, bro. I literally just logged in this morning. I was like, oh, look. I have a 120 something flex. No. No. I have multiple. I have, like, four badges.
[0:29:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: What are the badges?
[0:29:22] Moni @monitalan: Can you give us a screenshot? I want
[0:29:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: to see
[0:29:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: a Let
[0:29:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: me... Now I gotta log in. I honestly... I haven't I haven't been on watching literally for months. Hold on.
[0:29:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Please that or doesn't count?
[0:29:31] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Wait a minute.
[0:29:33] Moni @monitalan: Well, obviously, Dave and I are not
[0:29:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I just... Oh, wait, Monica. I just saw... So I have an early bird quacker, and then I have... I just saw just now. I have an Avantis top 500 contributor top quacker. That's it.
[0:29:47] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, okay. Alright.
[0:29:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I guess, let
[0:29:49] xFactor @xFactorPOL: me let me let
[0:29:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: step on and try to limit this guy, love.
[0:29:51] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I I possibly
[0:29:52] Moni @monitalan: can't have the
[0:29:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: early one. That's it.
[0:29:55] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Saving and and quacking.
[0:29:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I think they'll play a role. The more badges you have, the more... I I... Like I said, I think that might be... Because I... I've talked to the founder a couple of times. This dude's amazing, man, and he's very selfless. I mean, he he, I remember he, he went to he went to the casino, and he, he won, like, 20 k, and he gave that money away to to the top 20 quackers. Right? I got that money, and I gave mine away too. I like stuff like that, man. And I believe people like this, they tend to favor loyalty. So what I'm I'm assuming the more badges you have, it it might be a multiplier, for when the token does drop. So I do have about four, five badges, I think. So, basically, every protocol that you qualify for, you get a badge for. Right? So that's why it's good to qualify for for all of them. I do do all of them. It it... I'm not doing it to get money for me at this point. It's just I'm doing it to get those badges, man. I think there might be a multiplier in the future. So the more badges you have, the more chance you have to make a lot more money.
[0:30:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just wanna let y'all know. I'm just gonna rattle off my top 20 top contributors so you guys understand who needs to step their game up. Okay? In no particular order. Actually, I'm going from one all the way down. Empress, Adam, Bread, Yemi, Cool, Banker, Emme, Millie, Nat, Landy, Metabeast, Monica, Metavision, AIXBT, Jay Yabs, Jack Binswitch, Protocol, Missgekko, Frisk, and B5 Labs. If you are not on that list, ladies and gentlemen, get off your ass and get on that list. That's what I can tell you. Okay? That's the list you wanna be on. You know why? Because when I come and then comment on your stuff and retweet your stuff, this is a beautiful cycle because I comment and and retalk about real stuff out here. Okay? That's the list you wanna be on. I'm just saying. Anyways, I digress. Chai.
[0:31:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, Chai.
[0:31:54] Voice G: And
[0:31:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: and one more thing too before I before I get in, Mike. The the... Also, the the Nigerian cabal is also on war now. So
[0:32:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Who's the Nigerian cabal? Wait. There's a Nigerian cabal?
[0:32:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: I don't I don't say any names, though. The Nigerian cabal is is... They just joined war chain today, so just know that it's about to get crazy, but I don't It's it's about to get... These dudes make one tweet get five five hundred comments, 6,000 likes, and they are coming on watch. I I saw a couple of tweets already. I'm like, oh, boy. So it's it's it's about to get crazy in what I'm watching.
[0:32:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. If any Nigerians are in the house, yo, I I love the Nigerian people. Okay? Follow me. Oh my god. I'm literally doing the cringe thing I tell everybody not to do. Don't ask for follows, Monica. I know. But, yo, I need to get up this leaderboard. You know what I mean? Although I'm number one aligner. Yeah. Whatever that fucking means.
[0:32:48] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Sounds like the great info fi wars of twenty twenty five.
[0:32:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Have begun. Yeah.. This is not an opener for one of the shows via one of your monologues or whatever in that crazy brain, the Infofy Wars. Yeah. Set it up. Do it. But, yeah, to everybody, obviously, that's still out there hustling, like, let's go. Like, I I I love it. This is the spirit of competition. Right? Because you don't have to put your money. You put your time in. Right? Like, from yesterday to today, once I found out about that aligner stuff, I'm like, I'm gonna make sure that my... This is how I... This is how my brain operates. When I get something in my mind, I'm gonna stand out from everyone and anyone, and I'm gonna use the tools that I have at my disposal in order to do that. That's the only way that I think. So then when I see other people, like, on the timeline, they're like, what about me? What about... It's like, don't ask. Let the content speak for itself. Right? Like, if you put out something relevant, something great, something mind blowing, like, they'll retweet your stuff. They'll essentially engage you in the conversation. Right? And then next thing you know, I never... I shot them a DM initially because they said send us a DM, and I'm like, yo. Here's your DM. That's it. After that, it was all them coming to me. Let your content speak. Right? Like, be thoughtful with it. But I thought we got Jamfzy come up. Jamfzy, what's good, bro? How are you, man?
[0:34:05] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yo. What's good, everybody?
[0:34:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You sexy penguin here. Great to see you, bro. How you doing, my guy?
[0:34:12] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: I'm just chilling. Monica sent me a link to the spaces. I saw x factor ping me. I was doing some work, so I was kinda idly listening in, but I'm back, baby. How we doing?
[0:34:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, people are getting scared out here, James. We don't know what to do. They're like, oh my god. The way the kyto whales are coming to splash us little fish out of the freaking... You know, the quack pond, little duck pond over here, bro. What's the deal?
[0:34:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: The the penguin pond. Right,? But, like, what's the what's the inside, and what's the... What are some of the main differences between a wall chain and a... And Kaido? I know you're you're an expert on the topic. Right? So shut some light on for the for the peeps.
[0:34:49] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: You're asking me a question that I do not have an answer to.
[0:34:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't you dare.
[0:34:54] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: I mean, the URLs are different.
[0:34:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Bro, imagine imagine the value added content. Everybody's hyping up Jamf, like, yo, info fi expert and
[0:35:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, you're the only one that's hyping them up. Let the man live, bro.
[0:35:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Jamf. My... That's my guy, bro. I love this man, dude. We... You know, I mean, it's... You know? Maybe maybe I gave him too much credit, and I'm sorry. I
[0:35:15] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: think I have I have a a personal a personal thesis that they're actually... I mean, maybe they're in the same vertical, if you wanna say, Kaito and wall... Wallchain, but I think I see them moving in a little bit different directions. I think in the next couple months, we'll see different types of projects going to different types of platforms for different results. It sounds so vague, but that's essentially my long form answer and and, like, the, you know, room temperature I... IQ that I can articulate it in.
[0:35:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jeff, did you get did you get the Aventus airdrop?
[0:35:55] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: You know what? I did not. And I saw a lot of people cook, like, really heavily on that, which I was not expecting. Otherwise, I would have paid more attention there. But it's very, very cool to see not only are there competing protocols, products, platforms, whatever you wanna call it, but there's competing platforms that have substantial economic incentives. And I think that's what helps drive a lot of the attention around the platforms. And the more that different platforms aside from Kaito, which I'm also a fan of, don't get me wrong, the more it keeps everybody in check and keeps everybody accountable and keeps these platforms iterating and staying competitive, which is really, at the end the day, good for the people that are paying them for the platforms and too for the users, like the people like us who wanna go talk about cool projects and hopefully get rewards. So I think it's good all around, you know, for the space. I think monopolies have never really served consumers right. Look at telecoms in North America. It's a great example of a long standing monopoly that just... It's just not favorable for the people. So I think that this is a good long term thing for users and and clients alike.
[0:37:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I agree, man. I agree. I think, look, at the end of the day, like, it's it's two different worlds, but I think, I I saw Yuri just came up here. I'm coming to you in one second. Thanks for coming, man, and accepting the invite. But, I mean, this... Like, and we've been saying this on this show for a minute now, right, where it's like, a cook like this, like, has to make people pay attention. You know what I'm saying, James? Like, the Kaito whales have to be looking at this being like, oh my god. Some guy got how much off the Avantis airdrop from Quacken? Are you kidding? Like, that's a heavy deal. So, like, the way we started the show, I don't know if you were here, but we were like, people are now piling into wall chain. Right, being like, yo. What is this? I want a part of this, and I want a piece of this because of this... Of of how well Avant is genuinely cooked for everybody. And I can and I can say the majority of us here in ATC, like, took... Like, a good chunk of us, like, really took part, and we and we did really, really well. So it's... Yeah. Jepsie, great take, bro. Really great take. Monty Monty, stop crying. You're you're gonna have your time. We need to up our game or try limitless game.
[0:38:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: I didn't. Monica, I'm right there I'm right there with you. I stand by everyone in crypto makes money in a way that works best for them.
[0:38:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts.
[0:38:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Right? Everyone is different, and everyone's strategy and the way they make money should be respected. Facts.
[0:38:23] Cornucopia 🖥️ @Iam_cornucopia: That's what I'm asking.
[0:38:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And you know and you know what? Like, don't get discouraged. Sometimes, there are a lot of people in Infify and even on other spaces. They're like, hey. Infify is dead. Blah blah blah. Guys, come on. If you can make money on Infify, that's just people getting you the hell out of the platform so they can eliminate the competition. You know? Do your own research, stand on your business. And if you can make money doing it, go for it, man.
[0:38:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, mate.
[0:38:43] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: I think I think you're right, x factor. And and my approach to Infofy is is, like, pretty simple, I think. I'm trying to sign up for every platform that seems like it has potential, but I'm not really giving merit or a lot of attention to the platform until it kind of shows proof proof of concept or proof of work. And all I'm doing is I'm using these different platforms as aggregators for different projects that I would otherwise probably not be aware of or see. And I take five, ten minutes to look into all the projects that that get listed. Tons of them are not for me. They might be great, but they're not kind of the wheelhouse of things that I like to discuss or or put my money into or or participate in. But it's a screening process, and it's a really cool way that... I think I said this the other day, but it shows two things from teams. One, that they have some money to spend. Right? And two, that they're trying to acquire users. And I think those are two very important things. If products have great products but aren't willing to spend or acquire users, the likelihood of them growing is not there. Right? And, usually, we're trying to invest in projects or tokens that are gonna grow exponentially, get more users, etcetera. So I use it more as a signal as well. These people are are serious. They've got a little bit of money. They got a little bit of time. They have some sort of UA in mind. And then I go in that screen, and I say, okay. Is this in my wheelhouse or not? Participate or not? And then all of a sudden, the platform like Wallchain is a great example, comes out, and they're gonna have two or three big cooks. And all of sudden, everyone's gonna turn around and say, fuck. We should be there. We should already be there, but we're not, and come piling in. So I think positioning yourself early in these these platforms that are not the the current meta, quote, unquote, is important... As important or even more so important than competing in the the competitive ones already.
[0:40:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big facts.
[0:40:24] Voice G: What up?
[0:40:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Big facts. And especially if you're a small account. Yeah. 100%.
[0:40:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big facts because, like, we got into we got into Wallchain early. Let me just say what's up to Yuri. Yuri, first off, what's up? And number number two, thank you, sir. I can tell you that your last week was one of the better weeks that I've had in crypto in a very, very long time. So massive shout out to you and everything. Obviously, you and massive bidding over at Wallchain, bro. But what's good, Yuri? Welcome, man. What's cooking?
[0:40:51] yurii @kyparus: Everyone. Great to be here. Hey. Hey.
[0:40:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Yuri, talk to us, bro. We got lots of questions. I mean, I know you're only here for probably a little bit of time, but let me ask you. First and foremost, like, how did the Aventus airdrop go? Could you have imagined a more insane scenario, or a better scenario for Wallchain? And, yeah, let's start there, bro, because I I need to hear where your head's at. Like, you gotta be feeling pretty good right now.
[0:41:18] yurii @kyparus: Hey. Hey. Yeah. Just was scanning around and decide... Saw your spaces and decided to hop in. Yeah. When this was was a big cook, and I guess what was... I wouldn't say special about them, but a bit different from many other campaigns is that they were not heavily, like, aggressively hunting for all Yappers. They were narrowly focused with their campaign to those who, like, understand their, their product, who who... To those who are into the niche and focused on the quality of the community rather than maximizing the number of people talking about it. Just caring about the numbers, they cared more about the quality.
[0:42:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: True. What did you make of the whole... Because, I mean, look, I I lucked out and somebody thankfully... Like, shout out to miss Slammy who put us on also. Like, the combination of Banker Bot with Avantis as well, I feel like really played in good plus that 35%. Yeah. Like, do you think I... I mean, what role do you think the base cabal had in all this? Because, like, we were talking and we're like, if Avantis doesn't cook, we're, like, we're we're all screwed at the end of the day. Like, if this doesn't do well, which project probably does stand a chance? So, I mean, like, baseball? What do you say, Yuri? Like, that had to contribute too, man.
[0:42:38] yurii @kyparus: I mean, I don't know. I... I'm not in Base Cabal, so it's hard to speak of them. There were, like, people... Big people from base supporting them, but I wouldn't say it was, like, one of the main impact drivers that we've seen the... During the Mindshare campaign. It's been occasionally, like, points from them, but, like, supportive. But I I I don't think that there was, like, some cabal thing from base.
[0:43:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. Monica, go for it. Then I gotta ask you about aligners. We gotta we gotta hear what's going on with this. But, Monica, go for it.
[0:43:20] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Hi, Judy. You know, I've been on... I've been quacking for a while, but I probably haven't been as active as I should have. But I'm curious. So today, I felt like my timeline was all about wall chain, was all about quacks, and I don't think it was the algorithm. I think people are really excited. What for you is... What do you want to see from the content creators? What would be, like, ideal for for a wall chain?
[0:43:48] yurii @kyparus: Great question. Not not many creators ask that, But, basically, it's something that we wanna see, and there is something that customers, like companies that launch campaigns wanna see. And mostly, the feedback that we get is that they wanna see not that much info about, like, leaderboard position, let's say, but more info about the product itself. Your creator's experience with the product, do's and don'ts, like, something that worked out for them or maybe didn't work out. Some negative feedback can be also valuable about the product, but try and personalized experience, your personal experience with the product, what works for you, what strategy are you using, how it's valuable for you, any, like, sort of feedback or recommendations on what can they improve in the next upgrade. So show that you're a power user. That's that's the most valuable content.
[0:44:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great question, Monty. And we see that from Coma. Right? Like, Coma was out there... Like, Coma was a... Like, was not a power account. Like, he was not 30, 40, 50,000, like, you know, followers. Right? But Como was very... Is very... What he's great at is he's very blunt. He... What he uses, he uses. He dedicates his time. He picks and chooses his spots with the protocols that he has, and he literally goes in and he's like, hey. If I can make a suggestion about this, like, maybe you overly weighted this much or maybe you should do this or maybe... Like... And a lot of times people think, like, just because, like, you have to talk about something, I think, Yuri, what you just said is important. It doesn't need to always be something that's like, this is amazing. This is great. Oh my god. Like, it could be like, yo. I used this. This didn't really make too much sense. Like, was I supposed to go here or maybe, like, an explainer there? You know what I'm saying? Like... And there's a way to say that in a a polite way that you can give feedback on the timeline, I think, while still, like, earning, like, earning apps, quacks, snaps, you name it. Yuri, so I I gotta ask you now. When it... Actually, don't... Before I go to the aligners thing, I'm I'm in the... Obviously, I'm in the in in the quack group now. You guys obviously started this new quack group, and there's a lot of complaints of people coming in there. Is it something where now you're seeing? Like, I know we we... I click baited the title a little bit, but are we seeing a lot more like some of these maybe kites of whales that are coming into, like, the Wall Chain Pond and and starting to splash, which is why people are dropping, or is it genuinely because maybe their content is stale? Like, what do people... Other than what Monica just said, what do people need to be doing more of, like, to to kind of alleviate that? Because I saw that in the chat a lot today.
[0:46:25] yurii @kyparus: Yeah. It's because of many things. Obviously, some big big whales, creators, and not only not only big ones. That's a few of the big that are being noticed, but also thousands of smaller ones which also join campaigns, and it becomes more competitive. Becomes more competitive, more people will participate. What to do? We are restructuring the campaigns for the future ones to make it more rewarding for bigger pools of participants.
[0:47:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it. So you see the influx that's coming, and now you guys are adjusting on the fly, which is smart. That's what you have to do at the end of the day. This is a fluid game here. Every day, there's something different. So I like it. Yeah. Cool. Now we're gonna try.
[0:47:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Cool. You there? Yeah.
[0:47:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on one sec, Chai. Alright. Chai, go... Yeah.
[0:47:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Chai, go for Sorry.
[0:47:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Okay. Cool.
[0:47:23] Cornucopia 🖥️ @Iam_cornucopia: Oh, great. No.
[0:47:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. So
[0:47:25] Chai @chai_lens: I just wanted to ask Yuri about about the future of kite... Sorry, future of wall chain. Right now, I can see that people are pivoting from Kiteo to, like, to wall chain because of the small account privilege. The... Earlier, Kiteo had the small account privilege, and right now, they have moved to watching. But how are you trying to handle their spam? Because I can see there are a lot of people spamming all over the tutor just by, like, putting in reply just like they used to do during the time of Kiteo. How How are you going to manage? How are you going to handle that? Because it is gonna hamper the... Like, hamper some generators as well. How are you going to manage that?
[0:48:08] yurii @kyparus: Yeah. How how are going to manage spam and AI slop? The obvious answer is, like, improving the algo, which we are doing, and we're getting a lot of feedback on that. We still get many spammy slop accounts getting to the top. We are adding a per account slap reputation system, how authentic is usually the content per account. And we also get a lot of feedback on Discord tickets and inside the app. Many of this feedback, we cannot actually, like, take action on that because many pieces of feedback is like, hey. My my account should be ranked higher on each of your leaderboards. Please do something with it. And it's not something we can take action on. And, yeah, it sounds fun, but we got a lot of, like, that
[0:49:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yuri, the algorithm's broken. Fix it. Please. Come on. Do something, bro.
[0:49:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. Yeah. Mentioned that, Yuri, because, every one of us here in the speaker panel, should be in the top 10 of all the leaderboards just to
[0:49:13] yurii @kyparus: point to them. True. Fact.
[0:49:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So I I I do I do I do have a question for Yuri. So, Yuri, first of all, thank you for creating a great platform. A lot of us got it early. We've been enjoying it for months and months and months and months. So my my question for you is this. Well, can you quantify the growth of watching within the past two, three months? I I... Because I... I've been curious about the growth of this thing. Can you tell us how many users you guys have onboarded the past the past couple of months?
[0:49:44] yurii @kyparus: More than a 100 k.
[0:49:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is it? Holy shit.
[0:49:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: That is that is absolutely insane. I I I I was gonna send me 10,000. Holy shit. That's crazy.
[0:49:54] Chai @chai_lens: I believe that's more than 100 k because Yuri, as I asked you about the Dune dashboard in DM to you, I was surfing some of the stats regarding the wall chain, and it is more than 100 k.
[0:50:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: Do do do you do you... Can you give us an an idea...
[0:50:10] Voice G: I guess, I
[0:50:11] Chai @chai_lens: don't know. 120 k. 120.
[0:50:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: Because I'm I'm sure I'm sure you guys have a have a have a a lot of projects in the pipeline. Can you give us a range of how many more projects could we expect in next next six months?
[0:50:27] yurii @kyparus: So it's not a problem to launch, like, a project quite often, but, it's not the best strategy what what what we think internally. And we are thinking of different pipelines of projects. Firstly, we have, like, public pipeline, and our our overall strategy is to be like a tailored. We work customly personally with every customers that we work... That we work. We don't just, like, launch a public leader board and forget, and they can do whatever they want with that public leader board. We actively work with them on overall their, like, social strategy, actively use products of each of our customers to ensure that it can be amplified and it can resonate with the community. So we we wanna ensure that every customer that we launch has outstanding success and has an outstanding case success study. And that's why we cannot launch every other project that is applying and launching every few days. We will launch a few other lines that will help companies at early stages grow faster to to higher stages. Firstly, with limited gated leaderboards and a few other... Don't don't wanna spoil too much here. But, basically, there's gonna be a completely new product designed for smallest creators, very small creators that can help other projects.
[0:52:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that. I like that. I like that. I saw Jempsey had his hand up, Nat, and then I don't know if Jempsey had a question, and then we'll go to Nat.
[0:52:19] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: Yeah. Just quickly, I'm I'm the personal assistant of X Factor, the really, really big KOL who's on stage right now, Yuri. And I was wondering if you guys were looking for hiring a, CT lead, for 500 k a month, and we are actually willing to forfeit our first month's pay for a Lamborghini wrapped with my penguin and x factors, whatever the fuck that is.
[0:52:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a nice
[0:52:44] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: With the wall chain with the wall chain logo on that bitch. What do you think?
[0:52:51] yurii @kyparus: That's a quite generous offer, man. Depends on what Lambo spec you choose.
[0:52:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I wish I knew the
[0:52:57] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: I wish I knew the differences in Lambo specs. God. You know what? I'll make I'll I'll make you... Here you go. You pick the Lambo.
[0:53:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I was about to say, JMC, don't screw this up. Your pitch was perfect. Don't don't let the Lambo color be the hinge here. You know?
[0:53:13] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: I I I didn't even know there were different types of Lamborghinis. Damn it.
[0:53:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Go.
[0:53:20] Moni @monitalan: But you have to dress but you have to dress as a doctor.
[0:53:22] yurii @kyparus: It has to quack. You know? Quack. No. Yeah. I was I was...
[0:53:25] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: I... On my life on my life, I was already thinking that the horn is a quack.
[0:53:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: We can modify the and I'll drive it down Miami, quacking a little southeast for no added v.
[0:53:35] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: But I actually I actually have a really... Like, that was that was a real thing, and now I have a a funny thing. I think, Yuri, you guys should host a twenty four hour wall chain space where anybody can come on stage one time and perform their best quack. Have you guys ever seen that? Like, the duck hunting sounds and, the... Like, you know... David knows what I'm saying. That would be a way to raise some mad awareness from, you know, a a bigger audience that might be into duck hunting.
[0:54:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And and throw it on pump fund for the feels. You know?
[0:54:06] Voice G: And throw it on pump...
[0:54:06] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: What? You guys could raise crazy fees for the Lamborghini. It's, like, free.
[0:54:10] yurii @kyparus: You... We need leaderboards for the best quack... Wacking sound.
[0:54:14] Justus_teleios @Justus_teleios: Yeah. You know what? I think I think we're hiring factor.
[0:54:18] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. That was that was honestly one of the best pitches ever. Guys, second We'll send you the information, Yuri. Thanks,
[0:54:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys, the second cool made me and Landy do freaking hunger games over the last wall chain invite that he had, like, whatever, six months ago. Okay? We were literally fighting one another, like, best friends over here fighting in the space being like, give
[0:54:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: me the give me the quacky leg.
[0:54:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? I've been practicing that freaking quack for so long, bro. Don't steal my thunder now, x factor. Yuri, like, CT lead, official quacker mascot, bro. If there's a dollar sign next to the title, bro, let's go. I'm all for it. Let's do this. Okay. I got... Oh, sorry, Nat. Go for it. And then I wanna ask you about aligners. Yuri, don't don't jump
[0:55:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. Yuri, with the popularity that, Wallchain has received, I mean, it's all over my timeline, all day, every day. I'm curious to know how did this come to be. Right? Were you guys sitting at the table and you had an idea? How how did this happen?
[0:55:17] yurii @kyparus: How did this happen overall? So, like, we... The story is that we've been an MEV protocol on chain nerds for two years since 2021. One of the most used MEV protocols in 2023 integrated by Pentelix, Swap, QuickSwap, many other exchanges. Early twenty four, we switched to b two c, doing growth for some consumer apps, encrypted Twitter, figure out that there were no, like, those great tools that we have on chain. It can be measured like it was measured on chain. We created a crypto Twitter analytics tool, a Chrome extension. It organically go to 3,000 daily active users. We made it a tool for other companies to fairly reward people for their content, for their social activity. It was in 2024. And we published our algo about how we evaluate Twitter accounts, not using any, like, vanity metrics. It's open sourced, our algo. Most of it is open sourced since 2024. And then in February, we launched public mind shelter boards on top of this algo, and that's how it all started.
[0:56:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Amazing. Amazing. Now I do have one follow-up question. What was one of the challenges that that you that you that you guys have experienced in getting everything started?
[0:56:47] yurii @kyparus: So one of the challenges is still, like, AI slop because it's a race. You improve the algo. People improve their, like... Find some nitty tricks to adapt the content style to tweak the algo. So it's always a race in it, and we are making an update to the algo which make... Which makes it on... More fundamental, which is not only about checking the content and engagement challenges, educate educate the market projects, and make our own research on how to better run these campaigns. Because the campaign is not only like... It it it may look quite straightforward. Just make a public leaderboard, and it all happens automatically. But it's a lot about incentive designs that make sure to reward the right people and not, like, aggressive extractors.
[0:57:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Love it. Great stuff, Yuri. Thank you for ask... Answering my questions. I'll hand the mic back over to Dave.
[0:57:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Cornucopia, go for it. And then I gotta ask about this aligner stuff. So Cornucopia, welcome, man. What's good?
[0:58:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Cornucopia, can you hear me?
[0:58:05] Cornucopia 🖥️ @Iam_cornucopia: Yeah. I can hear you, Dave. Dave. Dave. James. James. You me, Dave?
[0:58:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I got you, bro. Go for it.
[0:58:10] Cornucopia 🖥️ @Iam_cornucopia: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, to you. Really Jim to you, but I also wanted to ask about the stuff you pinned on, you know, the Quarkas community regarding the gated stuff. Do you wanna talk about that? Of course, the the things in the article that said, okay. The lab board won't be displayed. Although, I'll just love if you could share more light on it. Right? Something we think is different from something spoke about. So love you to talk about the gated stuff a bit more.
[0:58:44] yurii @kyparus: Sorry. About liner z?
[0:58:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cornucopia, what was it? You want him to talk about... Because he he he he touched on it a little bit earlier. I don't know if you were here, but he touched on when we asked him about, like like, what what... What's been cooking, like, with the algorithm? Like, what's the deal? Like, what's been happening? But is there something specific, Cornucopia, that you're gonna ask?
[0:59:03] Cornucopia 🖥️ @Iam_cornucopia: Yeah. I I think I got a bit too. I... But I don't like to ask. I deleted about the... Because, you know, the article, it says that it will be reviewed to the public person. I'm like, how soon? Is it still something we should be expecting soon, or it's really, really gonna take a long while before it comes out to you?
[0:59:21] yurii @kyparus: Oh, the Algo update. Yes. There there was a Algo improvement on Monday, which went with a UI upgrade and working on a bigger one as well, which is related to account authenticity, basically.
[0:59:48] Cornucopia 🖥️ @Iam_cornucopia: Okay. I I love it. Thank you very much, Yuri. Back to Yuri.
[0:59:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Thanks, Kornikovi. Appreciate you, bro. Okay, Yuri. I know it's late by you. I I obviously appreciate you coming by. We'll we'll keep asking questions, but I gotta get this in, man. Talk to me about aligners. Like, need to know what's the deal, how many more of these can we expect. I... Listen. Personally, I I said this yesterday, and I'll say it again. Like, I love this move because I think what you're doing now is you're capitalizing on your own mindshare. Right? Like, Avantis just cooked for you guys recently, and you guys are literally sitting on top of the mountain right now. And now it's like, wait a minute. How do we keep this mindshare going? And now it's like, oh, we assemble an all star team. What? Yeah. 26 people for aligners that they can then go handpick, right, the people that they want directly from CT on the timeline and people that are showing the initiative to get involved. So I need to know as much as you can give me about aligners, what can we expect coming up, and do you plan on doing a lot more like this?
[1:00:50] yurii @kyparus: Yes. So we are not, like, an aligners team, so I cannot talk on their behalf. I can talk about overall the structure of the campaign. And we have announced these types of campaign, like, in July, I believe. We called it programmatic mindshare, gated mindshare. But, basically, the idea is that our... That public Muncher Elder boards, how they are different from marketing that was done all of the time before Infofy. The difference is that creators... Right now, creators on public... Board... Any creator can choose a company to write about. Anyone can find a leaderboard on whatever info five platforms they prefer and write content about it. Algo gets... Evaluate them somehow and rank them somehow. So creators can choose projects, but projects, they cannot choose creators. And it wasn't like that before. Previously, projects select, like, numbers of creators, reach out to them through some marketing agencies or whatever, and make a deal. And we wanna make Mindshare leaderboard where it's a mutual match, where creators choose projects and projects select creators as well. So one... Once it's matched on the, like, alignment, the the the leaderboard runs. And we have a few private leaderboards available only, like, to to a few people. So earlier stage projects can start on that. They select a few active community members. They get incentivized, and they start talking and growing the projects from, like, a smaller stage to medium stage and later stage. And later, they get ready for public leader board. Something like that got started with aligners. Yeah.
[1:02:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that. And what was the number you said that we can expect in total rewards from aligners? I didn't hear. What what what was it again?
[1:03:02] yurii @kyparus: Yeah. I I can say. It's like you reach out to them. It's it's more, like, curated leaderboard by them privately.
[1:03:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yuri, I don't think you've been paying attention to the timeline enough, bro. I've been officially selected, and this is actually not a joke. I've officially been selected as the first align... Normally, would totally make that up, but I'm actually telling the truth in this instance. Like, I've literally been selected as the first aligner for that private leaderboard campaign. So I'm hella psyched, man. So thank you. And... Yeah. I I mean, I'll... I'm gonna have so many more
[1:03:37] yurii @kyparus: Big w.
[1:03:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Big w, baby. You know it, bro. Big w.
[1:03:42] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And and, guys, what you don't realize, it's crazy. The the marketing lead on aligners is Dave, and he's referring to himself as third person. So this is all a huge marketing ploy, and it's it's awesome.
[1:03:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Y'all wanna get on the bus? You see me. I'm like a drill sergeant out here. I'm like, yo. Stop asking for the DM. Stop asking for this. Get your content right. I'm, like, literally, like, a drill sergeant out here. I'm just saying. I'm a good leader. I have leadership skills. Let's go. Adrian, talk to me. Go for it.
[1:04:09] Voice I: Yo. What's up, everyone? What up? I'm sleepy like crazy, man. But... Yeah. GM GM GM, everyone. I hope everyone is doing well. Happy 25 basis points with quotes. But, anyways, anyways, I... Oh, shit. I I I think it it dropped. I I I was going to ask I was going to ask Yuri if they have... If watching is going to be having any kind of, like, is it restriction we should call it? Or... But, like, you know the thing on Kiteo where, like, there's one person appearing on 46 legger boards. So I I just want... I wanted to ask that if there's some kind of restrictions on that for for watching both. However, I guess it's not yet probably indeed community... The background community, would go there to go and inquire that. But to all of the people participating in info phi... I mean, I'm also participating in info phi. We are we are literally all participating in info phi. Bro, it's just... Everyone fight for your bugs, man. Fight for your bugs. Like, if it's through... I mean, I'm not saying should go and do AI slope. That's where there is going to be, like, wrong in it. However... But, yeah, like, just do what you have to do. If it's replies, if it's... I mean, behave like a human while you're at it. I mean, I don't even understand how people used to... How people are able to make, like, a lot of generic replies, like, a large volume. I would, like, fall asleep on my on my computer, like, each I have some phone, like, be like a human being on the on the timeline. Because at the end of the day, you you never know what opportunity would come your way through your interactions to, like... Yeah. Just peace to everyone, and, yeah, good luck to everyone.
[1:05:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. What kind of seance? What kind of eyes wide shut type of seance are you a part of right now, Justice? What is that? That was beautiful.
[1:06:04] xFactor @xFactorPOL: There's some cams on the back or something. Right? Like, the angels were chanting or something?
[1:06:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was beautiful. But every time hear beautiful music like that, there's something crazy going on in in the background, bro. You know what I mean? You know, I've seen enough movies. Justice, be careful out there. Okay? I don't know what the hell y'all doing over there. But to the other... We're gonna call you Telios. We can't call you Justice because there's only one Justice. But Telios, what's up?
[1:06:30] Voice G: Damn damn damn Damn that not. Damn. Damn justice. Jim, everybody on the speaker role. I... Well, you can comment in in in in in thank you so much, Dave. Okay. Although I wanted to ask a question to to the world team in audits. It's... He has less. So it's all good because I I don't know. They actually gave... My love for what world team is building, the fact that they actually expect a small creator, like, smaller account. For the fact that they didn't know, but actually changed the life of... A very close of... A very close friend of mine that earlier this year lost basically everything. Like, he was almost giving up on life. And and he's actually... He got... My bank, he... He got watching. He got watching to my link, and he just said, okay. Let me let him just do this one for once. Like, he has been... This evening, we lost his house. Lost... I think he he lost a couple of things. The the government took a couple of things from him, and then he decided, okay. Let him just try for the last time, and then if he doesn't win, then he say goodbye to crypto and then just... And funny enough, just earlier last week, Avanti's head up came in. He was able to make the top 15. And those guests... This guy had nothing that was basically that was squatting around with friends became someone that actually came out with it with six... With... I said, you got you got six k from Avanti. And he he almost ran like... And that was the thing. That this guy is just less than... I think he's... He should be 700 or 800 followers. I can't see. But he got six k. That was the initial. I don't know if it's sold immediately. That was when the was was at around the zero point... I think it's $0.2 when it was down. That was when I I saw it. Imagine
[1:08:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: another dollar, Taliosa. Imagine another dollar added to that full on number, bro.
[1:08:46] Voice G: That's gotta be real
[1:08:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: pretty, bro.
[1:08:51] Voice G: So that that that is what actually happened to him. Like, the guy just... Like, he was like, oh god. How did this happen? And that is what I... I wanted to even appreciate it because, like, I felt like, okay. Let me just... Kunze doesn't know that he has actually a life with his with his platform and everything. But my own question now to him, I don't know if there's anybody here that can actually on-site, but that was before Avanti said drop because I've been noticing it. I don't know if it was probably because it was the time that I only make post on
[1:09:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's the question, Tyler?
[1:09:27] Voice G: Let's let's go.
[1:09:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's the question? What's the question?
[1:09:30] Voice G: Okay. The the question is the question is... I'm actually on Socket Football leaderboard. That was not... That was then. That was, I think, two, three weeks ago before the Avanti. So I knew it wasn't about the Avanti. Like, I was on the top... I think top 100 or top top 100 leaderboard, quickly fine. And I noticed that... Okay. I knew that I needed to just be consistent and go aggressive with it so that I can keep cranking. When I started... When I eventually decided, okay. Let me just... Instead of just making two posts per day, I started making five, six per day on socket for conduct... Socket for the. I don't know if it's... I just started the ranking. And probably before... It was before about the third job. So I felt like, is it that when I make that post consistently, like, it it didn't actually have said that. I've gone with the amount of accept my mind show or something. So... But... Yeah. So I don't think there's anybody that that can actually update. So thank you so much, Dave.
[1:10:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You got it telling us. I don't know if I can answer that.
[1:10:31] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Cool. X factor. I don't know
[1:10:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: if you guys picked it up. Monica, anyone? No. I I don't know.
[1:10:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm I'm sorry, man. I didn't get the gist of that to to answer it accurately.
[1:10:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Telios, we got we got we got to get you we got to get you a little more concise. We have brains of goldfish, bro.
[1:10:47] Voice G: You guys are just in No. No. No.
[1:10:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Later. Later. Later. Later. We'll come... I'll come back. I'll come back. Okay. The DMs, and I promise I'll I'll see if I can get it answered for you. But I wanna move on because we barely... We didn't even get to the rate cut stuff yet. There's a bunch of other news that I want us to get to. But, Nat, thank you for being patient with us. And, yo, shout out to Yuri for obviously coming by. You know, thanks everybody that came up on stage and asked Yuri a bunch of questions. Hey. Listen. You might be better late than never. You know what I mean? Like, I shot him the invite last week. Hey. Come by today. It is what it is. Fantastic. We gotta get... I gotta work on the title game. I guess this was good. Kaito whale splash whale chain pawn. And then it said... And then it says wall chain f. I have no idea what that means. I don't know who switched that up, but, Nat, cool. Thank you. Whatever it was. Like, you nailed it.
[1:11:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: That was definitely cool because it wasn't me.
[1:11:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Look at you. Oh, is he cool? It's not nice because she rats on you so fast, but, honestly, like, I'm giving him credit. That was amazing. Like, great job on the... No. That was great. Don't don't don't don't change it. Nat, talk to me. 25 bips. Mark, it's like steady, steady. Stock market jumped 400 points today on the rate cut. Was expected. Yes. No. Like, where are we at right now?
[1:11:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: It it was it was expected. It was pricing it in. Right? And the the stock market hadn't... Had the reaction that we thought it was going to have. Right? Because remember, we've been... Yesterday, we said on the on the show, there's a possibility for it being this... A sell the news event because it has already been priced in. And we were talking about hedge position just in case it goes to the downside, we can profit off those those positions. Right? And it happened exactly that way today. The short... Those... The short position did pay and the long positions paid too. Right? I I was able to make an incredible amount with Alibaba and then spy puts because the market was pricing it in. And overall, right, we need to give the markets... The global markets, right, not just the stock market, but cryptocurrencies too, time for it to digest the information and time for it to settle. That's why it... Especially Bitcoin right now is doing this floppy thing. It's going up and down and up and down. It's trying to digest the information, and we have to wait for it to settle so it can tell us exactly what direction it's it's it's going. Right? The other thing too, we have to look at the liquidity levels when it comes to BTC, and there's liquidity levels at, at the the top and at the bottom. There's liquidity levels at one nineteen k, one twenty k, and at the bottom, there's liquidity going down all the way to one zero nine k. So we kinda have to let it settle, and then it'll tell us exactly what it wants to do. But the 25 basis points, I I I responded to your your post earlier today. 25 basis point was the target. Now Powell the... Powell is taking it meeting by meeting, report by report. So now we shall see the next few reports. Will that... Will they align with another 25 or another 50?
[1:13:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Okay. But where does crypto go from here, Nat? Like, Bitcoin is... Let me see. Where where is Bitcoin right now? Like, right now, Bitcoin is at, what is it, $1.16, $1.15 and change. Hold on. I'm pulling up. It's one sick... Oh, $116.04. The rest of the market look like it's... I don't wanna say rallying, but ETH kinda holding steady at $45.75, sold. No.
[1:13:54] Voice G: Well,
[1:13:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: sold looking $2.44. Holy shit. Yeah.
[1:13:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: So Bitcoin is digesting the news, like I said. Right? We have to keep an eye on these liquidity levels, and it'll tell tell us exactly which move it's going to make. I do believe that crypto as as a whole stand to benefit from rate cuts because they have that liquidity coming in. However, context matters. If the next rate cut, we're cutting because the the economy is going to shit, then we need to... Okay. We need to reassess. We need to look at our positions and take it from there. Because overall, rate cuts, depending on the context, right, and depending the reason why rates are being cut cut, it can be bearish or bullish for the market. So we kinda have to wait for more structure. However, today was a good step in the right direction.
[1:14:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love it.
[1:14:42] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And Powell could use, like, a little PR person or something just to make him, like, a a little a little less bearish when he speaks. He's like, yeah. We'll do a 25% rate cut or 25, BPS rate cut, but it's because our jobs suck and, we kinda underestimated how bad our, our job prices was gonna be. He's like, my guy, come on. Just you had us in the first half. You know? Let's, let's leave it at that.
[1:15:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I think he he was... He he he... I watched the video. He looks very depressed. Think it's Trump, man.
[1:15:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Trump He
[1:15:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: threw us the hell out.
[1:15:12] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Trump Trump was... Has been twisting his hands. You know, they... They're playing they're playing the whole mafia game. They're trying to put him in jail for basic lines of congress about the money, about the building with the Fed. They're suing one of the Fed governors for lying, you know, about about homes. So, I mean, he he... If Trump didn't put pressure on him, he probably... He'd probably keep the rates at zero. But still, no no rate cuts today. But this was a twist twist from Trump. Because I I guess Trump, they want someone that could play the game. Trump has three years and, basically, what, two months left in office, man. They have a plan, and they need the Fed to be on board on on... To to play ball. If the if the Fed can't play ball, they're gonna get get rid of Powell. And I think I'm probably... I still think the probably gonna try to get to to get rid of them because they wanna be they want to create a very, bullish market before Trump leaves office, three years and whatever whatever from now. But like I said, as as as far as crypto prices go, I think I... I've I've I've looked at this stuff before. Every time they've cut rates, the markets normally crash. But when it does, it goes about after that. Right? And it takes about, twelve to eighteen months after they cut rates for the for the market to top. That's the stock market, by the way, based on history. Of course, we don't have to repeat. We don't repeat. We can just rhyme. So I... I'm... What what I'm thinking is, probably, September 2026 to February 2027 is when we get the stock market, top or a a crypto market top. But that's, either way, for me, kinda like, not not... What I'm what I'm doing is I have money on the side, and I'm also in crypto at the same time. So if the market does crash today, I'll be fine. So I... I'm playing I'm playing both sides, man. That's kinda what I'm doing.
[1:17:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: So the... I I just wanted to touch on what you said real quick, cool, with the the arm twisting. Right? So that's been the talk of, like, literally ever since Trump, became president because the whole point of the Fed is to be independent. Now the question is, are they really independent when they're doing what the president wants them to do? They're not. Right? So then at some point, they need to reassess what the Fed is doing and and re re... Restructure their... The job description. That's that's literally has been the talk all week long, specifically on CNBC. All... Everyone's giving their take because if if Trump put who... Puts who he wants to replace Powell, Trump is going to get what he wants. And if Trump gets what he wants, the Fed won't won't be independent.
[1:18:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. It's it's a mirage, though, not not the Fed's 90%.
[1:18:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: No.
[1:18:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I I definitely
[1:18:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: don't caught rates they caught rates a month before the election, which they didn't even need to. Right? So, oh, they're not in... All that stuff is a mirage, man. Any... This is why I hate mainstream media because they know, but they just lie. They don't like to speak
[1:18:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: the truth.
[1:18:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly. But they they they
[1:18:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: politics, champ.
[1:18:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's Yeah. It is politics. Right. And they need they need to, like, at least show a little bit that they're independent. Right? So if Trump gets who he wants, it's not not showing anything. Right? It's going to be 100% political, and that that might bring some concerns into the market. So it's something that we need to keep
[1:18:40] yurii @kyparus: our eye on as well.
[1:18:40] Voice G: I mean,
[1:18:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: not not not the markets. I mean, I will tell you this. I will say that anyone that doesn't have assets is absolutely screwed for the future. The the... Everything is is politics divided. They they don't tell you the truth, and they lie and lie and lie. For example, look at the, the job report that came out. Basically, they created 900,000 jobs that never existed. And the the the US government now based their financial moves based on a fake reports. I mean, do you
[1:19:13] yurii @kyparus: know what saying?
[1:19:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Why the BLS report is now being in in... Put into question. Right? And that's why Trump made the move to fire the person
[1:19:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: in charge of the information.
[1:19:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: Even if they fired him, he's still taking heats for firing salt, Meg, like I said.
[1:19:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: I... You know what? You're completely right, Kool, but at the end of the day, I'm just I'm just telling you what we know. Right? And what we know so far
[1:19:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: is that
[1:19:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: 25 basis was done today and that Powell's job is definitely on the line. He's going to be replaced and most likely going to be replaced by someone that Trump wants in office and is going to bring the focus on whether the Fed is independent or not. We know they're not independent. We know they're politically based. All of it all of it is. And even the reports are not a 100% true, but that's what we have to work with. You get what I'm I...
[1:19:57] Moni @monitalan: Can I can I ask a question? Go ahead, Monica. Why don't... But if I was Trump, just because of the whole criticism of independence on independence... I mean, Powell's term ends May 2026. I know that this administration is not known for patience. They want things to happen quickly, but it's still May 2026. It's still before the midterms. It's way before the next election. Why not wait?
[1:20:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. I think I think they're... I think they might actually... Monee do exactly that. They're gonna they're gonna wanna play it out and hopefully, you know, what happened today with Powell playing ball and saying that there's gonna be future beef cuts down the line could hold them at bay. So that's exactly what happens. Because from a political perspective, you definitely don't want that like a Trump forced the Yeah. The feds out. You know what I'm saying? So if they if they can hold off and they're playing ball somewhat, like, fifty fifty, I think they're gonna they're gonna hold.
[1:20:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: I mean, they they they could they could, keep Paul in there as a as a scapegoat, man. So if anything bad happens, they will they will blame him
[1:21:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: and and use that. And
[1:21:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: use smart play.
[1:21:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Yeah.
[1:21:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Trump is already is already leaning towards it. Right? Because he keeps saying, well, he's already too late. He's already too late. Mister too late Powell, that's like a scapegoat. Right? Just in case something happens. See, I told you he was already too late.
[1:21:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: He is too late.
[1:21:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: 100%.
[1:21:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's been...
[1:21:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I mean, it it it it probably it probably is too late, honestly. But but but to your guys' point, it's it's a free scapegoat right there. If he screws it up, he's like, well, I told you so, pal. You're an idiot. So I I don't think they're gonna fire him, honestly. I think they're they're laying down his own little grave and gonna let him walk out as well from a political perspective. But, guys, being involved, like, you know, you guys... Some of you guys know my my web two job is in logistics. Right? And we work a lot with South America and Europe. The supply chain is in shambles. Like, a bunch of these customers are cutting their, their spend. They are cutting back on their warehousing spaces, their productions. And and when they do, the the reason that they're doing that is because their costs are significantly higher across the board. So it's... The the markets are cooked, man. Like, from... In in a web two perspective, we're we're we're gonna face, in my opinion, an economic crisis soon. They're just they're just inflating it and living in a little bubble right now and trying to hold it off as much as possible, potentially till Trump leaves office. And then whoever whoever else comes... Becomes president is gonna be caught holding a absolute nightmare of a bag, but
[1:22:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep.
[1:22:37] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Is what it is.
[1:22:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: You're 100% correct. And the the problem... This this this this is the problem. This is why I keep telling you that people are absolutely screwed because Trump... Okay. Just imagine everything stays stable, which, of course, they're not stable. Whoever's new comes into office, they're not going to allow the bat to break in in their hands. They're gonna kick the ball down the road, kick the can down the road even longer. This is this is... It it... It's gonna make assets inflate even more. This is gonna make houses more expensive, cars more expensive. Like, it... Thing... I know things are bad. I know things are bad. I know how because when you look at... Just look around you. Right? Just look at the cars. Like, I I went to go look at cars, like like two, three weeks ago. Just I wanna make, again, a new car. And I'm like, my brain can't fathom how much a truck is it. People are paying... Or not paying, but they're asking for a $100,000 for a freaking truck. They're asking for $45.55 grand for a Honda Civic or Honda Accord for a less... Like, those prices were what we used to pay ten years ago, and people don't have money to buy these things, man. So things are strange, man. Like I said, it's gonna get crazy, and and these politicians, they will keep printing money as long as possible to kick kick the countdown road, which will make the regular people that don't have assets even poorer. We're gonna have trillionaires. Like, we I... I'm sure we probably have it... Have them already, but not even unofficial. But, officially, we're going to have a, you know, of of people that are worth over trillion dollars because the the value of the dollar is absolute garbage, and that's the reason why people are formal in into Bitcoin and into all this crypto rails, all all this stuff. But it's it's gotta get... It's about to get crazy, man, because they keep printing money. It's not gonna stop, and I don't know if the new administration that comes in will let the market crash on their head. We'll see. But... Yeah.
[1:24:42] xFactor @xFactorPOL: K. And and just to to wrap this up, I think, really quick, cool. Like, that's extremely bullish for crypto, in my opinion, because all this crap going on in Web two is just gonna continue pumping crypto bags
[1:24:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Absolutely.
[1:24:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Significantly. So...
[1:24:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: And if the dollar continues devaluating in the... At the rate that it is devaluating, I think it's going to make crypto even more popular. Right? But I just want... I just wanted to add something......
[1:25:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Gold.
[1:25:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. So be... Because the dollar is evaluating at such a rapid pace, investing is the way that you get ahead of it. I remember us having a space about this, like, a a while back, and we kinda hit the nail on the head when we said, if if you're sitting in cash, your buying power is decreasing as we go. Right? But if you're investing, whether it's in the stock market or crypto or wall chain or whatever it is, that's the way to get ahead of things. Right? Because everything is getting more expensive. The stock stock market's continuing to go up. Cryptocurrencies are continuing to go up while the dollar continues to go down.
[1:25:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And you have to you have to be con con... Conscious too that even, like, putting your money in in bonds and getting, like, that three, 4% APR is kinda useless too because, right, I think money is depreciating at a far bigger pace, so you have to be a little bit more
[1:25:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: aggressive with your back.
[1:25:51] Moni @monitalan: It is
[1:25:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: it is insane out there how, like, you can't be holding hundreds of thousand dollars in your account. You gotta do something. I I... And the rates of inflation, it's it's a way... Like I said, a lot of people that live in The US are probably fine, a little bit fine, but it's it's 10 times worse for the people that live outside The US. That's why we keep pushing people to crypto, pushing them to understand this game and trying to, you know, build wealth through that direction because, man, this this... The the environment we live in... Like, of course, crypto people live in a bubble. Right? And I try not to be in a bubble. I like to see what's happening outside outside, once I turn my phone off. And when when I'm telling you right now, like, it makes no sense. The the... We... The the vacations we used to go on, we go to Bahamas, we go to Kimball Islands. Right? It will cost me and my wife, my two kids, will cost us maybe $2 or $3 for the whole trip. That same trip, the same trip, the same time, it cost it cost about $18.19 grand now. And this is within within five years. So so so it... It's... Things have gotten out of hand, and there's no turning back to stuff. There's no... The the COVID era stimulus is still affecting the market still today even after five years from when it happened. So just... My advice to you guys, man, just stay busy, stay active, try to make as much money as possible from crypto. And, please, I beg you, do not hold majority of your assets in low cap tokens. Okay? Because you you wanna be mainly Bitcoin, ETH, or stablecoins. That's what you wanna do.
[1:27:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Unless all season comes because all season can provide a massive opportunity for people to make money. It's true. It's true, Dave. It's true. And you don't wanna Get
[1:27:37] xFactor @xFactorPOL: rinse the puffer again.
[1:27:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Buy. You don't wanna buy when all season comes. Now is when the time you wanna buy. You wanna buy the... Listen. From my experience, you wanna buy the charts that look like complete doo doo. When you look at the chart and you're like, oh my god. This thing is horrible. But, you know, but you do your your due diligence and you see the company is real. You figure out what they're building, massive utility, great connections, great partnership, accessibility, adaptability, all of that good stuff. And then you say, oh my god. They're doing great things, but the child looks like complete crap. I'm buying. And you sell during all season when everything is going to be... Valhalla. Not whole
[1:28:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: dare tell me that we've been saying the whole... The same thing that they're the whole time. Right? We've been saying the same damn thing this entire time. I think Landy's been the miscommunicator out here with his mumbo jumbo and cool throwing in 34, like, hieroglyphic indicators that he gave me that day. He threw me off the trail. I don't know what was going on. But, also, guys, just so you know, when we said bring the criminals back to crypto, one of our co
[1:28:35] Moni @monitalan: hosts We're not going there. Nope.
[1:28:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: End the show, baby. She said end the show. But...
[1:28:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. Go ahead, Dave. They actually did reply, and they told us what was going on, but go ahead.
[1:28:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm playing that. I'm playing. I'm playing. Alright. Good stuff. Yeah. So listen, guys. If anybody's obviously still look... Oh, one of the last story that you guys put in there... Well, two stories. That Trump gold Bitcoin statue, if that was real, that was incredible, number one. Number two, Bitcoin all time high, 75% of the odds on poly market. I like those odds, man. I like those odds a lot. 75%. I mean, I think that's like... I don't know. What do y'all say? What... What's the high? $1.25? $1.01 24.5? Is that Bitcoin all time high right now?
[1:29:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. Yep. And and I think once once, the markets digest this, news from today, I think there's a possibility. Remember I said that at... Even if if it's, like, a small pump, but at some point, that liquidity is going to benefit crypto and all the undervalued assets.
[1:29:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Monica, we need to step our try limitless game up. I've been saying I literally have content written in the drafts, and I I haven't put it out yet. I... We we need to start fighting our little... Like, we need to get our ducks swimming out here. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I'm not trying to miss out on another one of these airdrops because I feel like Wallchain is the meta right now. This shit is hot, hot, hot, hot. Yeah, Mona. Go for it.
[1:29:58] Moni @monitalan: Don't we have, like, two days left for limitless? Right. We have two. Reply. Reply. Reply.
[1:30:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like I said, guys, make sure you're interacting with all of mine and Monica's tweets. Okay? Reply to everything we put out, please. No. I'm kidding.
[1:30:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: I can't even keep up with what you post.
[1:30:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll post fire shit, though. Yeah. No. Post some random slop. I'm posting... I could... Yeah.
[1:30:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I I could tell you guys real quick. So the... Let me see. So covalence as a pro... Protocol on wall chain, it ends in fifty nine fifty nine minutes. That's when it ends. The other one, limitless ends in four days. The eight chain RAID f... Ends in thirty six, thirty six days. That's pretty good. The, hey, Elsa, the AI protocol, they changed of their, allocation to 250 users to 500. There's no... I think this says end of q four. That's what it says. I'm assuming maybe into November, maybe December. But I... Like I said, guys, to me right now, now that I know that a lot of people are coming on here, my goal... Of course, it'd be nice to make money. My goal right now is to basically qualify for all these partners because I believe that having those badges is gonna play a role whenever, wall chain those tokenize. That's what I think.
[1:31:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair. That makes sense.
[1:31:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: For the one that has, like, 53, you guys better start posting.
[1:31:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cole Bailey, I'm literally like, GPT. I'm literally copy pasting the Twitter handle, and I'm like, hey, GPT. All the research possible. Give me the best, most out of the box thread you can think of, and make it punchy, baby. Make it good. I guess we'll see. Also, by the way
[1:31:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Good luck, guys. I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines.
[1:31:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: And just so everybody knows, you guys wanna know how much money I made today before 7AM? K? I made $80 before 7AM. Shout out to Tunnel. Thank you very much. And by the close of business today, you know how much money I make? A $180 overall in a day. Thank you to Tunnel. Alright? And it's not slap on the timeline. This is, like, real ease... Bro, they're paying me $29 to literally retweet something with, like, three word... Like, three letters that I can put out, and I'm like, oh, this is cool. And it's actually something that's... I think it's legit. It's the actual old FanDuel cofounder that is now on the board of Multiplier. So, like, I'm looking at these deals, and I'm like, bro, $29 to tweet something that I would probably tweet anyway? Yo. Sign me up, bro. That's all I'm saying, man. There's money to be made out here. Congrats to me and being the number one rest of the squad obviously coming up. Seriously, y'all... You pick your games up. Everyone pick your game up. Start tweeting some shit about aligners because I am not trying to win out here without any of you fuckers. You understand? I love you guys. Cool. Nat, x factor, love having you up. Chai, Cornucopia, thank you. And to everybody that's listening, yo, appreciate you. AMG, I see you. Millie, m a, Yara, EA. Yo. Sunny v, what's good? LJ, Nah, Omiwan, Cruciapixio. Yo. Crucifixio is flying up the tater trader charts. I got lapped already on the tots. And by the way, tater thoughts gonna be a thing, ladies and gentlemen. Tater thoughts is going to be a thing. Alright? We're changing the game out here. Tater thoughts? Tater thoughts. You heard that correctly.
[1:33:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: What you're thinking about, Xbox.
[1:33:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly, bro. Way too easy. Think it's fine. Alright.
[1:33:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I will... I am interested.
[1:33:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tater thoughts. It's gonna be a thing. Yo, Chaz, I see you, bro. Yo. Yo. What's good, Jess? Appreciate you and everybody else that came through, man. Amp, Shiv, Blockchain, everybody else, man. Thank you guys for coming through, and we'll see y'all tomorrow, for the final episode of ATC for the week, man. Let's go make some money. Peace.