All Things Crypto. BASE Token

# All Things Crypto. BASE Token | 2025-09-23 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1vAxRQeEYQRJl | status: approved
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[0:01:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brad, what up? Kev, what's good?
[0:03:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm, like, gonna play a whole song, and literally everyone's on vacation. That's fine for everybody.
[0:03:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I figured we keep the land thing going, but with you being the only Latina here, I don't know if that made any sense, to be honest. But, what the fuck is everybody? What is going on over here? What kind of shit is this, Nat? What the hell?
[0:03:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: I have no idea. You know what? Over here, it's raining. So maybe it's raining on their end too, and they just happen to just be asleep. I don't know.
[0:03:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Before cool comes in here. Cool. You're fired. No. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Hold on. Let me just share this shit out. Let me just make sure I get this out to a bunch of people. Let me put it in the group chats. Maybe people aren't aware. Who knows what's what? Yada yada. Alright. Let me just share this in this chat. This chat., what's up? Trench, what up? Let's share it in the... What's it called? The tater. K. Okay.
[0:04:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, actually, being that there's only a few of you here, Nat, you're gonna be seeing a lot of aligners post from me over the next thirty to forty five days. Do you know why?
[0:04:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not that it's obvious that you are part of the twenty sixth. No.
[0:04:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So today, I sat through the here's how you get paid meeting. It was just me. Apparently, everyone else is too rich rich to be attending these things, and I don't understand. It literally boggles my mind. So I said, show me the spreadsheet, my man. Shows me the spreadsheet. And he says, you have pretty much, the top mind share right now. And if you keep going and me plus starts plugging in my numbers and ta ta ta, this is the number that you would probably... If you were to stay here like this, and if it was to end today, this is the number that you would walk away with. And I said to him, are you high? I'm like, are you feeling okay? I'm like, bro, like, what kind of bullshit is this? I'm like, bro, don't fuck... Don't sit here and gas my head up with all these crazy number. Nat, the number he showed me, I've never seen... This is like coma insomnia money. And I'm like, this is this is this is insanity. And he's like, being...
[0:05:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: So so, like, what? $40.40 grand?
[0:05:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, 55. And I'm like, what? In what world? I'm like, where did... I'm like, first of until you know me, I go into question mode. Right? Because I'm a skeptical son of a gun. Like, I don't believe nobody. Right? So I'm like, where you get this money from? And he goes, we got a grant. And I said, how much? He said, 400,000. I was like, golly. Okay. God bless Polygon. That beautiful purple chain. I love that chain. I love the... Hey, Monica. You're right.
[0:06:22] Moni @monitalan: I love Polygon. Have I not been telling you that I love Polygon?
[0:06:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right.
[0:06:27] Moni @monitalan: Did you see my post this morning? I did. With the side eye, my little lady giving me the side eye. That's how I look at you when you're not paying attention to Polygon. What... So what is this for?
[0:06:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is for aligners. So, you know, like, the the 26 private leader ball... Leaderboard on Wallchain?
[0:06:45] Moni @monitalan: I didn't realize they were on Polygon. See?
[0:06:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So here's the thing. So they got a grant from Polygon. Right? I don't know where the token's gonna list yet. I think we're still... They're still kinda debating where, but it's... I mean, it's kinda nuts. Like... But here's the one thing. And and for everybody that's here, like, consider this the alpha, and I'm gonna be hosting this... Their weekly space starting tomorrow morning at 9AM. So I would love for you guys to come through, come up, ask questions. Like, please, like, I I really, really wanna be able to push this and obviously make a great first impression and bring the whole community with. But what was I gonna say? Oh my god. I'm I'm overwhelmed. I don't even know what the hell... I lost my train of thought. Oh, the... So the space so the space tomorrow, but we're gonna be going over, like, essentially, like, everything. But when I looked at, like, the, like, the... So the twenty sixth, right, that we got chosen for is a private wall chain leaderboard. But I confirmed that the mindshare is still accumulating. Okay? So if y'all keep... If y'all quack about aligners, when the public leaderboard opens, which it will, by the way, because some of those rewards are going to go to the public leaderboard, you still gonna be eligible. So these 26 that are here right now, I mean, it's literally... I mean, it's amplifying my my reach, my yaps, my quack, my everything. Right? Like, this is this is probably... This is a very a very big turning point for me because, like, these are... Like, Monica, like, with with with with Javi, Jesus, all those dude, like, these are heavy hitter dudes. You know what I mean? And them, like, commenting, following, tweeting my stuff, like, it... I don't think you guys understand how much of a difference that stuff genuinely makes. And it's almost like they kinda have to. Right? Because if they're part of the 26, it's like the guy's telling you, yo. You gotta retweet this stuff. And I'm like, I'll be the one leading the pack so everyone can retweet all my shit. Like, let's go. But, yeah, Monty. Monty, go for it.
[0:08:44] Moni @monitalan: Well, I was gonna tell you that. Right? Like, these guys are amazing. Plus, they're super nice. Like, Jesus is hilarious. He's really generous. Javi, you know, is one of my top favorite people in the space. So that's amazing. So my question to you is how much do we get for supporting you? I'm just kidding. No. I was gonna ask about the leaderboard.
[0:09:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: She's leaderboard. Good question.
[0:09:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Someway, somehow, I'm just finding my way to more freaking Latinos than Latinas. I don't know how this is happening, but, yo, if y'all where the money's at, yeah, I'm in. Like, take
[0:09:19] Moni @monitalan: me with Spanish. They're Spanish. They're not Latinos. Just saying.
[0:09:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: Sorry. My bad.
[0:09:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: My bad.
[0:09:24] Moni @monitalan: But they're also... But they're still but they speak Espanol.
[0:09:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: They speak Espanol. Alright. Whether they're Spaniards, like, Lat... I don't care if you're from Latin, Central, Caribbean. It doesn't matter for me. It doesn't... If anyone that's speaking Spanish out here is good luck apparently. So I wanna associate with you. So if you speak Spanish as a first language, a second, or a third language, hit me up. Let me know what you're building because I wanna get involved at the end of the day. But... Yeah. I mean, this... Listen. You know me. Again, I'm super sketchy about everything, so we'll see it when it happens. But the guy's like, look. This is... And he told me there's guaranteed payouts. Right? Like, this is a guarantee of a payout. And this is this is really impactful stuff. And I like this because, like, I... You know how I love being involved in in in projects. Right? Like, I love being involved. Like, I just... I I have a million and one different questions. And, yo, shout out to whatever man that's here too. Like, he's the one leading the pack as well. I love love love leading this stuff, and, like, they're super hands on. Right? Like, they want people to ask a million questions. And me and my ADHD asked, I'm just like, what about this? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? So, like, this is... Like, to me, it's... It's... This is gonna be a monstrous campaign, and I genuinely want to bring every ATC member along with because I'm telling you guys, there's real money here. You guys hear cool up... You guys hear cool talk sometimes about, yo. I got a fifty, sixty k airdrop. Whatever man was literally putting in the chat today, he's like, yo. People don't wanna get on this call. People are not finding time to get on the call. And he's like, just so everybody knows, here's a sample of what you can walk away with, and it's like 60 k, like, on a low end. And I'm like, I'm quickly realizing either I'm really po po or everybody in here is really rich rich. Either way, I'm gonna start quacking and everything about aligners. Aligners is going to be my life for the next thirty to forty five days. Cool. I haven't heard a single word from you, by the way. Number number one, but your boy was the number one pick. Remember how hard you said it was gonna be to get in? Your boy was numero uno, bro. But... Yeah. Cool. Start, bro. Start... Especially too, man. And it's funny. The shoe's gonna be on the other foot. Cool. They got rewards, bro. They got lots of them. The mind share, bro, you can climb up right now. It's literally tabulating as we speak. Start fucking talking about aligners. I'm telling you, cool. We we gonna win together, bro. Me and you are gonna be up here. Me, you, Nat, you too. I don't give a shit what the... The x score is kind of irrelevant. It's about mindshare. You put out great content. They're gonna start retweeting your account. They're gonna start retweeting your posts. And you guys see, like, Monica's already plugged in there. Like, she knows Javi. She knows Jesus. She knows a lot of them. I'm now befriending everybody in there. They're great people. Like, this is gonna be a cook, and we could be a part of it. So let's go. Come with me. Okay? Let's go.
[0:12:20] Moni @monitalan: So I have two so I have two questions. So number one, the CMO... I think I've shared the story. I met because of Kaito. He was a a great yapper. He did a lot on mutant, which is how we got kinda connected. But he's a great guy. But question for you, what is Aligner? Like, I don't even know what it is.
[0:12:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So this is where... So I I don't wanna spend the whole space doing this, but, like, I'm gonna do the full deep dive tomorrow tomorrow morning, Monica, at at 9AM eastern time. So I would love for you guys to come. But, essentially, this is a brand new way for, like, tokens to essentially launch without essentially nuking their entire fucking chart. Right? So without getting into the technicals, like, and all the different, like, crazy acronyms, but it's a way for, like, you wanna get involved with something. You're now gonna start... Trading NFTs that have, like, your entire vesting schedule in them instead of being able to literally just dump the chart, like, day one when a token actually releases. It's like, the mechanics behind it are crazy. You know me. I love, like, the crazy mathematicians. Like, this is, some goodwill hunting type shit. You know what I'm saying? And I I I really, think that this is... That this could be something. I have no idea if it will be, but if it catches, I think it it can potentially change something. We'll see. I don't know. But the degens have to catch on, and it's my job to make sure that it's really simple and easy for people to genuinely understand. But I'm gonna do the full deep dive and breakdown, like, tomorrow with the whole, like, crew, hopefully, or as many of them as as possible that can actually join the space tomorrow. So I hope to see everybody there tomorrow morning. Sorry, Bonnie. But, yeah, I I I I gotta do the foot. I don't wanna give you the half assed answer either, though. You know what I mean?
[0:14:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, I'm definitely finding you $200.
[0:14:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll take that too. Matt, let me tell you something.
[0:14:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm not
[0:14:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: trying to count my money before it's in the bank, but goddamn after these numbers, oh my god. Come talk to me in thirty days.
[0:14:13] Moni @monitalan: Well... And like you said, Dave, I think this is a great example, right, of how you jumped in early. You were super active. You connected with the account. And it's not only gonna be for this because once you get... I mean, while chain is getting harder and harder to earn... I think I think I earned, like, two quacks yesterday. And even the weekend when I was doing so much stuff, I didn't get that much. The leaderboards are harder. But when you have the opportunity to build those connections, you should. So it's be early. Take take the opportunity. And then you're bringing us along. Right? You're not just saying this is me, me, me, even if you don't share your bag. I know you're sharing the the knowledge, which is the most important thing.
[0:14:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And, yo, if I see a bag like that, are you kidding me? We'll be running give... I'll be... Listen. I'm buying houses next to cool. You know what saying? I'm gonna be like, yo. Cool. Let me come on the next house tour, bro. Like, that's essentially what I wanna be doing. You know what I'm saying? But... Yeah. Like... And here's the other thing. You you know what else? Because you know me. I'm always thinking different angles. I look at the hey, Elsa leaderboard. You know who the top 15 people are aside from cool being at number nine, this crazy son of a bitch. Aside from cool being at number nine, you know who the rest of the leaderboard is. Like, 12 out of the 15 are, like, in that 26 group. So imagine now, like, I have yet to tweet... Start tweeting anything about, hey, Elsa. Now it's like, where do I find time in the actual day to do this? But if Ku could do it, like he said, anybody could do it. So I just gotta carve out the time. I gotta find it because this this is muggy money. This is real real money, and these companies are raising real funds. But... Yeah.
[0:15:49] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Just last last thing. Share this... The link to the space when
[0:15:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: you can.
[0:15:53] Moni @monitalan: Remember, I do my daily recap for Amplify, and I'll include it there.
[0:15:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: You got it. You better have notifications turned on for me. That's all I'm saying. You... Don't tell me you don't have notice turned on.
[0:16:04] Moni @monitalan: I I do. I do. But I have, you know, I also have for a lot of small creators because I wanna support them. So I have too too many. I have to go on a... How do I turn notices off for, like, people I don't follow that much anymore because I have, like, a thousand people that I have notice on.
[0:16:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I kinda do that. I I don't have notice on for anybody anymore because I went a little bit crazy in 2021, and I was like, yeah. Norties. Norties. Norties. And then I just got too much, and I'm like, oh, man. I gotta go unnotify, like, 8,000 people. That's crazy. Anyways, but welcome, guys. Hope everybody's doing well. Happy Tuesday. Cool. What's good, bro? Welcome. What's cooking, my brother?
[0:16:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. Sorry. Sorry. I was thinking I... Man, I'm doing, like, a thousand things. I'm driving to my son's football game, and I forgot about the show. I'm listening to Joe Rogan and all the phone. Now I'm like, yo. My brain is tripping. Thank you for coming to the show, guys. Let's go. I'm ready. Let's do it. And that that was up, Monica. What's up? What's going to? How you guys doing? Let's go. Let's do
[0:17:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Meta Beast, what's cooking, my bro? You good?
[0:17:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm doing fine. Thank you. I had a wonderful package at my door today. That's all I can say when I got up. Anything anything anything that comes from Homegrown Creations is... It starts your day
[0:17:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: off just right.
[0:17:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: That means you got either some weed or some mushrooms. Definitely.
[0:17:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: I was just about to say that. That sounds like some weed stuff.
[0:17:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: We might have taken mushrooms when we held reset Sunday when I was in California. Maybe. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Rumor has it.
[0:17:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Rumor has it.
[0:17:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Let's start the... Let let let... Let's start this day off. Nat, I saw that crazy story. Tether looking to raise 20,000,000,000 at a $500,000,000,000 valuation. This is crazy work. That was gonna put them literally as the top or the most valuable private company right there with OpenAI. 20,000,000,000. But what do they need to raise the funds for? I guess my question. But, Nat, you have more on the story for
[0:17:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I mean, that... That's that's basically the headline that we saw. Right? But here's the thing when it comes to, stablecoins, though. There's a big bet on stablecoins, and there's a a stablecoin rush. You know how you... There was, like, a gold rush prior to this gold going crazy, and that's really happening right now in the stablecoin industry. I think something's going to happen with stablecoins and banks. I feel like they're gonna be integrated, and that's how they're going to onboard their clients into crypto. Because I do believe... I believe we we we touched on this a little bit in the, TradFi versus DeFi thing that, they... The banks, they have to figure it out because crypto is taking all of the market share, and people are using more stablecoins and USDT, USDC to do transactions versus the dollar. Right? So if they... And with the dollar being, the the dollar being as devalued as it is and losing the buying power, USDC and USDT can take over... Can take the lead. So if the banks want to continue being relevant, I do see them picking up some USDC and USDT and being able to turn to transact on that part. I feel like there's a lot going on in the stable coin world that we have to keep an eye on.
[0:19:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. Yeah. Monica, go for it.
[0:19:10] Moni @monitalan: They... Didn't they announce that they were launching a US focused one because of a genius act? So maybe they need... They wanna do that also to add more infrastructure in The US.
[0:19:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: It did say that. I remember that very clearly. They were very clear on on coming up with one because I think with their home base now is El Salvador. Right? Like, I... I'm pretty sure. And, I mean, they operate... I mean, when I look at just the the sheer amount of USDT that's on Tron. Right, like, they operate mostly outside The United States, but, obviously, this is a monster monster market. So, yeah, I do remember it. I don't I don't have the timeline or anything, but, no, you're you're a 100% right, Monee, for sure. Cool. What do make of this $20,000,000,000.51000000000000 dollar valuation private company?
[0:19:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yes. So you are right, Monica. They are coming out of it. I think it's... They knew... They created two stable... I mean, one stable coin, one for international use and one one for The US. And I think it's called USD, u or u s
[0:20:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: US... USATUSAT.
[0:20:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: There there there you go. There you go. There you go. That's right there. So there is... It's definitely gonna happen. I knew this is gonna happen because they need to compete they need to compete compete with Circle and USCC, and they also need to have a stable coin that that could be used in The US. Yes. So now this is a big deal, man. I I am very surprised that the the the the valuation is this high. But at the same time, are you really surprised, though, if they're going to integrate CivcoPoints with everything else in in in in in all all the banks and all all these countries and companies? Yeah. I I said this before a long time ago. We... We're having two wars right now. It's stablecoin wars and Egypt wars. And it's it's... That... That's gonna be... So when you hear all these, you bankers or big money banks talk about crypto saying it's going to 15,000,000,000,000 in market cap. This is this is what, you know, makes it happen. So, yeah, it's it's it's just it's just a part of a bigger, grander plan for for the full integration of web two to web three. And for me, how do you benefit from this? Are you, you know, are you holding the the the the the... Are you holding the the blockchains that these are being built on? Or... Yeah. I think that might be a play. But... Yeah. I... It's it's, it's it's gonna be big, guys. I I... I'm... I I I just cannot imagine what crypto looks like in next five, six years, man. We... We're we're not we're not gonna we're not gonna, realize how how the the change
[0:21:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did he or is that me?
[0:22:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. That was him. Give him a second. Oh, maybe he's gotta switch phones. He'll he'll come back in
[0:22:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: a second. One thing I did wanna mention before we move on to another story. So you said it's going to be headquartered out of North Carolina, and you know which other bank... Which other major bank is had... Is headquartered in North Carolina? Bank of America.
[0:22:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bank of America. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Charlotte's their hometown. That's right. Oh. So it's gonna be a very interesting place. So let let me... So let me ask you, Matt, and and and Monica. And, like, when cool comes up and Metabees, if you if you wanna chime in too, where do you guys see q four right now? Like, what do you anticipate for q four? And, like, I know, like, you give me the depends what the Fed says and this, that. Like like, what do you genuinely anticipate actually happening? Like, are we gonna get October? Do you think we're gonna continue this rally in this run into the end of the year?
[0:22:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think it really depends on current levels and also and also the Fed. But if everything aligns and BTC is able to hold its current level, I think we could see in However, that one twelve, that area is crucial, like I mentioned yesterday. Right? And I I don't think Mandy posted it in the ATC group, but he posted it in the wolf chat. He has it going below... Breaking below one twelve. If it's going... If it breaks below one twelve, he has that... Those spots that I mentioned yesterday, that one zero eight, one zero seven, and one zero six area. But we'll see. One thing, though, Dave, I am long term bullish on Bitcoin. So for me, even those dips, they can be rewarding. Right? I know you yourself got into the bought the dip in April and look how high it went. Right? So I think the the fear should be, instead of looking at it from a fear perspective, we need to look at it as an opportunity perspective. Because if if you look at, the overall Bitcoin track that... Trajectory, it always... Even if... Even on its lows, it bounces back and makes a new high. So I do think at one point, once the dust settles and this is all over with, the down... The... And if I'm support at some point, I do see us hitting that $1.44 k. So the the... Right now, the way I see it, the dips are opportunities. If we're able to sustain this level, then definitely q four will be October. But if not, then it's just another buying opportunity as you were able to take advantage of earlier this year.
[0:24:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Was anybody else... Was Nat Mike crackling a little bit for anybody else, or was it was it just me?
[0:24:26] Moni @monitalan: A little bit.
[0:24:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: A little bit. Okay. Now
[0:24:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: bad, guys.
[0:24:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. You're good. No. No. You're good. You're good.
[0:24:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: You're good.
[0:24:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: I just wanna make sure it wasn't me and that this whole shit wasn't gonna rug. It might be some coming now. But, yeah, no. You're right. Like, I... When I look back at, like, my my my Bitcoin buy orders and I see, like, 79,000 and 77,000 at that time, right, like, when Bitcoin broke 69 and it started running, right, it goes to 89,000 then... Or 88,000 or 96,000 then comes back to, like, 79, and you're just like, oh my god. And everyone is just fear and panic. When I look back now, I'm like, that's the resolve you gotta have. Right? Like, that's it. Like, you will look back and say, I made the right move. In time, you will look back and say, I made the right move. Right? That's how this whole shit works. Yeah. Metabees, go for it, and then we'll go back to Monica.
[0:25:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Okay. So, obviously, I don't have really input on this type thing. But I'm I'm curious kinda does cost of living come into play on figuring this stuff out? I'm just... It's just crazy to me. And I... This is... I'm not going on to this topic, but it's my example with the price of groceries. How do... I don't understand how people can go purchase like this. And when things are costing like a fucking crate going up like crazy. I don't know if that makes sense or whatnot.
[0:25:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: So you
[0:25:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: know? So it it... I mean, in be a concern. Right? Even Powell mentioned it today, the labor... And he also mentioned this concern for the for the labor labor market and the the valuation in the stock market. He mentioned it's it's really high, and we saw global markets start to pull back a little bit. Right? So all of this, it it plays a role and it's being taken into consideration when we're talking about price for sure.
[0:26:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Then my outlook, not so good.
[0:26:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair.
[0:26:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: And and I'm they really is that simple, man.
[0:26:28] Moni @monitalan: I'm gonna bring in a different perspective. I think we just have the whole conversation of the the potential of what that airdrop could be. Right? We are... We see so many TGE's lined up. And so if you just see those TGE's and if people are then recycling those funds and reinvesting in other coins, that's where I think if people are putting the money back on Bitcoin. So I think we have to look at two layers and that... Maybe maybe I'm wrong. The one layer is the crypto community and the other layer is everybody. Right? It's the retail. I just think right now we're seeing so... Because, so somebody said the other day, how are we not in a bull market and these... All these projects are giving so much money away. Right? So there's so much money being generated through these Infify campaigns and other campaigns that are not Infify through quests and different things. And that... But that money's being recycled into the ecosystem through other coins. So I actually... That's why I'm bullish of what Bitcoin or some of the more traditional Hedera, others because I think people move the funds either for liquidity to pay their bills or to more trusted, projects. So that's why I'm a little optimistic because I think in October, we're gonna see a lot of money pump into the ecosystem through these DGs.
[0:27:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. You're not wrong. This has a lot to do with the mass adoption. Right? People are seeing how successful being crypto can be in these these... On how they can generate funds and how they can get grants and stuff within crypto to get their companies up and running. So I I think you you you bring a valid point. I mean, for me, I do see us at one point hitting that one forty four k. Whether it's in October, November, or December, I do think at some point we hit it.
[0:28:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. What do you think, bro? Where are you at with, like, q four outlook?
[0:28:20] Kool @koolcryptovc: I mean, you mean as far as the the price for Bitcoin, you mean? By by
[0:28:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Price of Bitcoin, general crypto market, because, like... I mean, I know... I heard Monica said, but, like, I feel this is... We're in full on... Like, this is full on the bull market mode, Monica, as far as, like, I'm concerned.
[0:28:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: This is it. I mean, I don't wanna say it is pulling bull market for certain projects. Right? So it's not it's not it's not bull market. It's just... It's bull market. It's just... It's it's a selective bull market. So if you hold a lot of polka dots, it's not a bull market for you. If you hold BNB, it's a freaking bull market. If you held... If you hold Chainlink, maybe half bull market. So we're not in the bull market. It's just... It's... If the money rotation is flowing massively into certain ecosystems. APAC's one of them. BNB, of course, and and and and and Hyperliquid. Right? So that's on a bull market, man. But some some ecosystems are experiencing bull market, and and, you know, I can't... You can't deny that. But things don't... Like I said before, the market is very confusing, man. Is it difficult to know where we're going because we're seeing BNB hold up over 1,000. And we're also seeing other projects struggle to to to to go up in price. So it's difficult... It's so weird, man. So if we have Bitcoin too, doing very well, even though Bitcoin's over 111 or in $12.13 right now. But I... Like I said, it's a strange market, man, you know, because we don't have the full buys of of retail. Yes. The market is driven by by institutions right now. And you and you could see this by... The market is is strange, man. It's very, very weird. It's so difficult to play this market. But if you are lucky enough to buy ASTA, you got... You you made a lot of money. If you held BNB all these years, you're good to go. If you got into hyperlinker early, you're good to go. If you got advances early and you held, you're good to go. So it's it's a weird market, man. I really don't know. Honestly, I I saw some institutions predict 250 k Bitcoin by December. I'm like, I I don't even... I don't know. Like like, for me right now because I... In a weird way, I feel like being in being in this game for the long term might be the best way to do it because I'm just looking at BNB. Look at BNB, man. I... It was $4 when I saw it. It's over 1,000 now. Look at Solana. $8.08 $8 to freaking $2.50 down to 10 back to $2.50. So it's... At the end of the day, you know, the long term outlook in this market might be the best of the plants and find all the ways to make money, like airdrops or trading or or different things. Right? But it is almost impossible to know what what we're doing, man, because it market's weird, bro. It's so strange.
[0:31:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Cool. You bring up such a fantastic point, and I think the reason why the market is so strange is because there's a lot of moving pieces. Right? There's a... And we're in uncharted territory. No one knew that Bitcoin is is what's going to get to this level. Right? And then you add you add the economic uncertainty on top of that. Then you have... Then you add the the hedge funds on top of that. Right? And then you have the projects that are coming on on top of that. And then you have the wars on top of that. Right? So it's a it's a lot lot going on. But from my perspective, the way it is right now is a trader's market. Right? So if you're trading these tokens and you... And you're going from, let's say, hype, you get into that, you sell it, then you go you go into BNB and you trade BNB. You get a nice long on BNB. You should make some nice gains. You go into BTC, you you position yourself on that, you make some nice gains. So as you said, it's it's it's very... It's it's it's a very weird market. We're in uncharted territory. I believe we did see we did see this coming, though. We had a show a while back where we did mention that we do see things playing out a little bit different because of all of the unknown factors and things changing. But I do believe at some point, we would level out and things will find structure again.
[0:32:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is why we info fi. Isn't it, though, guys? Like, in... It... Like, up or down, like, fucking... I'm in... Like, info... Like, I mean
[0:32:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: They're definitely sending me
[0:32:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro, Dave Dave, I've been I've been making me, bro, for six months, bro. I I... It's so crazy. And I'm... You're in. I'm happy now. Yes. But you missed out in... On a lot. A lot of stuff, but it's all good, though. You're in now. And and the moment you've made money for one project, you're you're never gonna leave this thing until this matter goes away, which I don't think it is anytime soon. But there's a lot of liquidity from Infofy because it's just... It it allows the regular users to to earn money like the the big KOLs used to do five years ago. Now average users... Like, we all... We are all KOLs now, of course, in different ways. Right? But I'm happy you're you're here. And I I... And then me,, we've been here for a while, and that's the reason why, bro. I mean, that's why I've been going going crazy in this stuff. Right? That's the reason why.
[0:33:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I see it, bro. Cool. And, honestly, like, I... Like, I'm always looking to maneuver and, like, reposition something. So, like, a recruiter reached out to me today too being like, hey. Would you be interested in, like, a marketing growth lead for this, like, you know, this Ethereum protocol? And I'm like, send me the job description. She sends it to me, like, 180 k a year, but, like, the responsibilities are crazy. Right? Like, there's so much. I'm like, there's no way I'd be able to do all of that. So I proposed to her. I'm like, listen. Let me be the CT lead. Hire somebody at... Like, I'll make the connections. I'll run the spaces. I'll be the forward facing person. Right? Give me half that amount of money and hire somebody else, like, to do, like, the funnel creation. Like, I'll fill the funnel, but, like, hire somebody else to do the marketing funnels, the... Like, create the socials. I can... I'm happy to create the content, curate it, whatever. But, like, let's do this a two... Like, a two person thing. And she was like, okay. Let me get back to you. So, like, I'm constantly trying to figure out ways to maneuver, but I'm already seeing, like, you know, a little bit of traction where people are now reaching out proactively that I would have never heard from before. And it's like, god. Like, you know, hey. We think you'd be great for this or, hey. We think you'd be great for that. And it's like, alright. Cool. Now it's like, I guess, a good
[0:34:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: It it... It's it's happening because... So what what happens with Infofy. Right? Of course, I think people kinda forget this. Making money is is good. Don't get me wrong, but the difference is you're being seen. People know who you are now. When you appear on leaderboards all the time, people know who you are. You're you're you're being followed. You're being shared. You're being seen. That's what I'm talking about, man. That's how you do it. That's how... What's that dude's name, Chill? Chill was one of the biggest, you know, holders or space host for, like, six freaking months. And he's at almost a 100 k now, and this dude is... He's he's made it, man, because now he's one of the faces of title, the largest e five platform in in in in crypto where if he tweets, he's top five on almost every single project. So he's guaranteed making $50.60 k per project. So it's not about, like, the money, but... And... Oh, a lot of projects will reach out to you because you're big... You're visible now. And that's what... That... That's the biggest benefit of this info five stuff.
[0:35:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Yeah. Monica, thanks for being patient. Sorry. Go for it.
[0:35:47] Moni @monitalan: No. I actually have a question for all three of you. So I think it was... I... Actually, I think it was Chillpill that posted a tweet about don't marry a project. Don't be married to a... Like, just... You're here to make money and just make money.
[0:36:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: I actually
[0:36:02] Moni @monitalan: don't agree with this. Look at me at with Hodara. I feel like I'm going that way with Polygon. I told somebody today, like, if I don't... If I post about Avalanche, feel like I'm cheating on Polygon. It's like... It feels like I'm not being authentic because I feel like like I'm now so deep into Polygon. Right? If... And, obviously, Ethereum is a little different. But curious on what your advice is. Right? Especially for for for you guys, like, cool, Dave, and now, you guys have succeeded in building strong relationships. You are involved with different projects. But if it's somebody like a new project, a DU or project... New creator or a smaller creator, should they try to marry a project? Not marry, but you know what I mean. Right? Be more aligned with one project. Should they try to test different ones? I I think, like, when somebody does that amplify campaign and jumps to something else, I feel that hurts their brand because they just look to be chasing kind of the next best thing. So I would love your advice. Right? We have a lot of people here at... Including me.
[0:37:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Want to know
[0:37:06] Moni @monitalan: if they're doing it right.
[0:37:07] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Along with that goes the whole juggling of the thing, which I posed that question to Dave, which...
[0:37:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[0:37:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's it's... Look. I'll I'll say this. Right? Like, I've I've been thinking about this a lot more recently because now between, like, my tunnel posts and this other stuff, and it's like, am I just... Is it... Like, is it just a machine now? Am I... Is it oversaturation? Is there no... Like, do I do I need to give, like, my post time to sit on... To sit there and, like, let people read things? And, like, I don't know. Right? Like, Monica, so I don't know the definitive answer. I think I'm still kind of figuring it out in a way. But I'll say this. Right? Like, I think a logical piece of advice would probably be if you're going to marry a project, then marry a project with a very specific goal in mind to try and position yourself for something bigger. Right? Because a lot of people, and I've seen this happen so many times and it boggles my mind, don't wait for people to come and ask you or give you anything. Nobody out here is going to give you a single thing. You might get noticed, but you have to be the one to go out there and forge your own path. And the beauty about this industry is you can genuinely create your opportunity out of thin air. If you are a little bit creative, you drive value, and you see an opening that an ecosystem can use this type of person that you excel in, like, go. Kick that... Open that door, kick it in, make the right connections, and show them why they need you. But don't be on the timeline being like, yo, man. Can you send me some some eat? Yo, man. Can can can... Am I approved? Can you get me this? Like, can you get... Don't do that. Don't, like
[0:38:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Whitelist me, Dave. Whitelist me.
[0:38:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like, don't do that stuff. Like, show people what you are made of instead of just tell... Like, instead of just saying it and screaming on the timeline and asking. Go show people why they need to bring you on board. That's the magic here. Yeah, Nat. Go for it.
[0:39:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do believe two truths can coexist. Right? So I think you can do both. You can have your two different portfolios. Right? You can have your set projects. But then... And while that project is cooking, in the meantime, here's what you're gonna do. Right? You're gonna get involved with these different communities. You're gonna make your connections. You're gonna infify whatever whatever it is you guys call it, and you're gonna do some trading. But I I think you do need to have core positions. Right? Because as Cool mentioned, you saw VNB. At look at how it it took off. Right? Even in theory, right, if there was below a dollar at some point, and the holders are the ones that made a lot a lot of money unless you you... You're you're a trader and you got in at the right time before it went up. Right? So I... Two truths can coexist. You you can hold... You can you can, have your solid projects on one hand and network, Infify, and all that stuff on the other hand. The the one... The other thing I wanted to touch on, Monica, you you do bring up a good point. Right? So when I'm looking at people's timeline and they do amplify, and I see the times, like, they're, like, jumping from project to project to project to project. I'm like, woah. It's like my... It's like information saturation. Right? I'm like, oh my gosh. Which was the new one? Which was the latest one? Which one do I respond to? What do I look at? Right? But if if that's how they make their money while having their main bags cook, I feel like that's a win win.
[0:40:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. I I like I like this question because I... You... It's it's a good question, and you can marry it back. And, also, it also depends on the kind of community you have. My community now, they are. They wanna make money. They don't care what I post. Actually, they they like when I post some crazy stuff. So... But if you have, like, a, like, a a founder type following, it's difficult to jump on the Infofyte train, man, because I think it it it it will hurt you a little bit. But for someone like me now... Yes. For someone like me, it doesn't matter. I could pause whatever. Nobody cares. Right? But, boy, as far as marrying bags, I don't think that's a good idea. Also, I know it might seem like a jumping from protocol to protocol. You have to do that to to some certain extent. I I could give you examples, three examples. Actually, three recent examples. One of them is... What's the... One second. One of them is... What was... Once again, I'm getting calls. I'm getting all this stuff going on. One second. I gotta get off here. I really enrolled. I'm trying... Sorry, guys. Read. I don't what makes my exit, man. I got a mom or something. Okay. I got a mob. Alright. Cool. Yeah. Sorry. Said no. No. No. Sorry. I don't I don't wanna get lost in the freeway, so I I think I think I'm from my way. Yeah. So... No. So for example, three projects three projects right now that that that basically went went... If you will help them, you're in big trouble. The first one is Quinto. Quinto did a pre t... PTGE recently. I did... They've been out two to that guy, what, four or five months? Four, five months, this project is is going zero. They actually shut down the platform. So what if you were talking about Quintu, you turn in team, you get bullish on them, you you you you got allocation, you didn't sell it, you're whole... You're you're holding it. Kinto released a a statement, like, about a couple weeks ago saying they're shutting down operations, man. This happened recently. That's the first one. Second one is mantra. If you had done the same thing, you you got your airdrop, you didn't you held it, you didn't sell it. Mantra got a a... Like, some kinda attack on the weekend, like, couple months ago. They went they went down 90%, man. I lost, like, 60 k for that stuff. That's Mantra. The third example is Eclipse. Eclipse. Eclipse... Actually, those ones, it it was a waste situation. They had the community lead and the founders where they didn't really allocate tokens to the right people on the team. I'm sorry. In the community, come be... Come into a mad and upset. They got mad, and the token's down, like, 90% now. If you... Well, people got, like... One user got a got a, like, a $120 from Eclipse. He held because, oh, yeah. I believe in Eclipse. I know what they're doing. That... He... He's talking his worth, like, about 8 k today, 8 to $9 today. Yeah, man. Of course. So so he's double edged sword, man. So you you you cannot pitch pitch and hold yourself thinking you wanna support a project. You have to make sure you you are in everything, man. You have to. It might look like you're some on tape prostitute, but at the end of the day, you're you're trying to make money for yourself and your family, man. You cannot be loyal to one project. You get destroyed, man.
[0:43:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I I do think if you are going to be loyal to a a project, because some people can't do the the... Especially if people that have, like, a a nine to five or a job where they work all day, work all night, it's gonna be hard for them to, like, jump from different projects. But if you are gonna marry a bag, I think we can all agree it can be one that that has already proven itself. Right? That is already sustained, that has been around, has been through the worst of the worst markets, and has proven itself. So I keep going back to, like, the dinosaur coins. And Polygon is a good one, Monica. So if that's one that you are are looking into, you know, like, oh my gosh. This this is this is it. I I I really like everything that they're doing, and I I might I might just hold, then I I don't think that's a bad idea. However, allocation is important. Right? How much money are you allocating? Right? Because opportunity cost can be a thing. So these are different these are different things we need to look at. I know for me, with with Hidera, I've I've been in Hidera some... For some time now, and I I like everything that they're doing. But also, I do... I I trade BTC. I have a stock portfolio, and on top of that, I do options, and I have IRL meetings. Right? In real life meetings where I meet with with some of these individuals. But... Yeah. So you you can... If if you're going to marry a project, like I was saying, right, two things, it depends on the project. Make sure they're just... They've been around for a minute. So, like, hey, they're excellent Polygon. And the second thing is allocation. Don't allocate a 100% of your money. It's a 100% of your portfolio into, like, one thing.
[0:45:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's kinda where I was gonna go. I was gonna say don't allocate... Make sure you have the time to allocate to it as well if... Especially if you're gonna look... Go into doing more. So may... And a colors... With the... Do your own research. In doing so, make sure it's going to be worth your time to do it.
[0:45:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Metabies, I never thought in a million years you were gonna crack my mind share, bro. But goddamn, bro, you you busted your ass, and, like, you're literally, like... You're you're soon to be a top contributor. Like, when I post one of those things, I'm waiting for you to be at the top, man. For real. You're you're close. I'm not even kidding you, bro. So... Because don't forget, it goes by mindshare too. Right? Like like, are you... If you're the one retweeting most of my stuff, then it's like, your mindshare for me specifically is is... That's heavy.
[0:46:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's good to
[0:46:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: know. Big deal. Yeah. 100%. Like, don't don't miss... Like, understand what those metrics show. Know the difference between mindshare and, like, x score and, like, everything else. Because, like, if I only retweet Monica, only if I'm only following, commenting, retweeting this, my... Like, Monica's mindshare is going to be occupied by me. Who's... You you... Like, when you see Cool's mindshare, I'm at the top of Cool's. I'm at the top of Yemi's. I'm at the top of yours. I'm at the top of Brent's. I'm at the top of Adam's. Like, I'm at the top of everybody's because I make it a point. They're
[0:46:48] Voice K: like Not
[0:46:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: mine, but cool. Thanks
[0:46:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: for I choosing
[0:46:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: was about to say that. I'm like, so what about s factor? Why we have a No. Where...
[0:46:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: And that that... You need to focus on you being a part of my mind, Sheree. So you
[0:46:57] Moni @monitalan: need to
[0:46:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: talk about... Was just about to ask you. For someone that came into this a little bit late, like, I completely missed the bus. Right? Like I said, I'll take the Uber out excuse. What?
[0:47:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I've had a...
[0:47:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: What happened? I've had
[0:47:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: a one one engagement on my post from Dave in, like, the two months that I've been here. So I
[0:47:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: really appreciate two comments over the last twenty four hours. That's a lie. I'm just I'm just coping with Nas comment, and I put another comment
[0:47:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: in there. Okay. Got another question from the guy, so hold on. Hold on. Can you break down the difference between the x score and the mind share?
[0:47:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So let let me just... Let me... Like, the x score is, the algorithm. Right? Like like, Cool's article yesterday, go read that in terms of how to improve your x score. That's the perfect... Like, we covered that yesterday.
[0:47:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. We
[0:47:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: did. The mind share is very simple. Right? Like, mind share. Like, percentage of the mind that is occupied. Right? And you look at your account as your... As the mind. If my mind, right, is being occupied and all of my my timeline is is, net net, net net, net net, retweeting, tweeting, quote tweeting my stuff. Right? Like, you have a very big portion of my mind share because you are a believer in me. Right? The same way that you have a big portion of the mind share for any of these, or, these wall chain projects. Like, my mind share now for aligners is, like, nine and a half percent. Right? Like, that means that I'm nine and a half percent of the total shit that you see on aligners on the timeline. I... My account is nine and a half percent of all of that, which is a huge deal. And... Because I learned this this morning, that's how these dudes are gonna pay me. So I'm like, alright. If that's how you're gonna pay me, that...
[0:48:47] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: So why not just create, like, a 100 accounts? And then a premium on all
[0:48:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: of That's
[0:48:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: trying to get... No. We're trying to see people how to sustain here, Kanter. We're not trying to teach people how to game the system. Simba down. Wait. Hold on. Let me go to let me go to Crypto Cobra who's been patient. Crypto Cobra, welcome, man. Thank you so much for joining us, and thanks for being patient.
[0:49:06] Voice I: Hello, Dave. Hello, everyone. It's an absolute honor to be here in this alpha space with you guys. Big shout out to everyone here, CoolCrypto, Monica, Dave, and everybody else. Now regarding to the question that... Like, regarding to the topic that you were just talking about earlier, how do we actually understand that the airdrop we get from a project worth holding or we should be, like, you know, selling and moving on to the next project? This is the first question of mine, and I'm sure we've been, like like, I'm sure, like, every one of us here got some allocation from from a project which we held. And after some time, we wish that we sold the first, you know, on TGE. And then on the other hand, there... There's been time that we actually sold, and we watched it skyrocketing, you know, shortly after selling. So this has been something... Some kind of concern to me. And I wanna know, like, how do you actually understand if the project's worth holding or not? So thank you very much.
[0:50:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: This guy this guy's legit. I love it. I love it.
[0:50:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You you
[0:50:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: want you want you want take this? I... I'd I'd love to chip in afterwards either way.
[0:50:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go for it. No. No. Go for it. Go for
[0:50:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: it, bro.
[0:50:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Alright. So check this out, man. Crypto, that's a that's a great question. And I don't know if this is the first time that you're here, but very eloquently spoken and some great values. So this is this is awesome. Welcome aboard. I'll I'll tell you what happened with my journey and and Infofy. The first couple of projects and airdrops were used to continuously compound my earnings. I didn't really care about the project's long term worth. I literally cashed out just so I can have a bigger bag without tapping into my resources to continue making money for the most part. So everybody's situation is different. So I'd I'd recommend you obviously evaluate yours and see what's up. But with that being said, there has been a ton of projects that just come... Came out recently that have been super worth holding. I don't know if there's a... Don't mind my kid. He's he's interested in contributing too. But there's been there's been a bunch of airdrops recently that have absolutely cooked couple of months after... Couple of weeks afterwards even that that are worth holding. But when you look for a project, look for the team that's behind it. Look to make sure that they have a a legit website. Make sure that the project resonates with you as well, and it's something that you will use or particularly find attractive. That's always nice holding something that you believe in, and make sure that the community is behind it too, man. You know, you don't understand a lot of these projects actually probably live or die by their community and the hype that's generated. So there you go. That's my 2¢.
[0:52:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Great stuff. And I'll say it's also a double edged sword. Right? We were talking about this yesterday, Cobra, where... Cool, who who just dropped out. He's gotta go to this kid game, but cool is lamenting about the fact that, like... And some... Actually, it was Samara.
[0:52:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. These freaking... These fucking scammers, all they do is call during ATC. What do you want from my life? I don't want any Viagra. Just chill out. Leave me alone. Hope for only a dollar. Yep. Oh my god. Yo. Can't just tell me you buy tell me, you know, tell me you buy Indian third part... Third party drugs without telling me you buy Indian third party drugs. Anyways, listen. COBRA, my point is, at the end of the day, it's a two edge... It's a double edged sword because, right, we all got the Avantis airdrop. Right? And we were like, yeah. And some of us were like, we're g ing. We're g ing. We're like, five k, eight k, this, that. Mind you, on the space we were talking about, before we all got the airdrop, like, we literally were saying, like, if this doesn't cook, then we're all screwed. And that would normally tell you, like, we should probably hold this. And some of us did. And some of us still held and sold at $70.80 cents, but yet it still went to $2.50. The bottom line is you're never ever gonna know, like, where. You have to be the one to make that decision for you, but at the same time, it's no one to hold them, no one to fold them type of deal. We talked about this yesterday. Like like, get in these spaces, understand what the meta is. Do we think it's actually gonna be a cook? Who's got what? Understand the tokenomics. There's so much that goes into it, but you have to just make the play, make the call, and move the f on. That's it. Right? Like... And don't look back.
[0:53:42] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yes.
[0:53:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go on to the next meta.
[0:53:43] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No regrets. That's that's that's a perfect
[0:53:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:53:46] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Thing right there. Never never look back and say, hey. This is how much money I had until you have a shit ton of money. Like, for example, cool. He's like, oh, if I would've hold... Held this, there would've been x amount of money. But then he's got a shit ton of money, so he's just messing around. If it's gonna hurt you to look back at it, don't look back at it. If you're gonna laugh about it, then look back at it just for for fun.
[0:54:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Do... Like, this was one rule that, like, the... Like like, shout out to, like, the... That Daphne taught me. Like, this is the trader that I own. Everything every single thing it... Like, that I have today is probably because of Daphne. And she told me, never ever bring the baggage from the last trade into the new trade. You, like, you gotta be, like, compartmentalized, be a psychosociopath, and just block that out and move on to the next thing. We don't have time for it. If you wallow, if you do all that stuff, you're dead in the water out here. This space moves too fast in order for you to be able to do that, to have the luxury to do that. So it's a great question, Cobra. I love that you brought it up. And, yeah, man, thank you for obviously coming through, and, yo, hang out. Please feel free to come back. But, Kanter, what else do you wanna add, bro, other than no Viagra, please? Well, I think I
[0:54:53] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: think part of it is that you can always play both sides of the trade. Right? Especially if you've made your base back by selling it. I think that's the bare minimum with most trading is you should always try to get your base back if you can. But anything extra from that, you you can always sell upwards. So, for example, you can sell half, and that's all pure profit, and you can let the the other half just do whatever it wants. Some other things that you can do to kind of experiment too, especially because we are in DeFi and crypto, is you can pair half with USDC on a pool. And as price goes up, you gradually sell on the way up and you... Or you also earn fees however long that takes, and then you can cash out that way. So there's... I think that is one the nice things about crypto that most people forget is that you have these DeFi ecosystems, and you can earn yield on top of your bag as you sell it.
[0:55:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great point. Great point. And if if all that fail... If all that... All else fails, just yell at the dev. Like, bread, fix my building bag, bro. What is going on? Tell the devs to do something. I don't know. It does... That doesn't really help, COBRA, but sometimes you can just yell. If they're... The devs are your friends, you can just yell at them and just be like, do something, bro. But I guess we'll see.
[0:56:13] Moni @monitalan: But one last thing, Dave. I just wanna kinda double click on that last point. I just think one of the things I regret, I know now looking back, is actually understanding DeFi better and really looking at the different ways to make your money work. And that's why... Not to plug Katana, but that's why I love Katana so much. But I think that's that's why I also love the series you guys have been doing. Right? Helping people understand DeFi is so important in this space.
[0:56:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro.
[0:56:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bro. You
[0:56:45] Bread @_ToastMalone: can't call me out like that. I'm literally... I'm not on the stage because I'm grinding right now, pushing updates, and doing shit, and doing a full UI overhaul that broke a bunch of shit last night at, like, one in the morning. And, yeah, it's been it's been a day. You know, buy the fucking dip.
[0:57:02] Voice I: That's a...
[0:57:02] Bread @_ToastMalone: $200.
[0:57:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That's crazy work, bro. So send me your your PSN handle. I know you're playing Call of Duty. Quit playing with us.
[0:57:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: And Brad...
[0:57:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Right, bro. I... Yo. I was playing some, like, skate last night, and it's... Dude, I'm not not not thrilled on the experience so far. So hopefully, those devs do something.
[0:57:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Brad, I'm sending you an invoice. Please don't pay me in with token again.
[0:57:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Yo. That's the third time in a row. Like, how much Viagra have I ordered from this place? Like... And when did I order it? Like, it must've been good... They're like, oh, sir....
[0:57:34] Bread @_ToastMalone: Your browser history, bro.
[0:57:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're a platinum you're a platinum member. Like, if this is you... I I actually... No joke. I think it actually might be a spoof because I'm looking... Know, you could see now the message come across. If, this message is for blah blah blah, and if this is you, like, please press 1. If not, please disregard. This is how they get you. Right? Like, I'm obviously joking about the Viagra shit. That was another phone call. But this is how they potentially get you. Right? They're like, oh, David, is this you? And you're like, yeah. Boom. Done. Thank you. They just confirmed your voice. Maybe they got your voice. I have no idea.
[0:58:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hey, David. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Press 1 if you're flaccid. Bam. Smashed it. Alright. There you go. Subscription.
[0:58:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I need to take a poll. How many people here think that x factor is above six feet? If you think x factor is above six feet, throw a thumbs up in the crowd. If you don't think he's above six feet, throw a thumbs down in the crowd. I said the crowd, not the speakers. You guys are cheating. Oh my god. Absolutely good, Dave. Get absolutely It's called gerrymandering, bro. Right? I don't give a shit about no gerrymandering. I'll draw red lines anywhere I feel like drawing red goddamn lines. Gonna stab me? I don't give two shits. Crucifixio, you think he's he's bigger than six feet? Oh my god. Now I'm intimidated.
[0:58:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: At least seven, bro. At least seven feet.
[0:58:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. That picture now has so much more validity to it, and I'm scared now because, like, if he's behind hugging me and I'm hugging that at the Coldplay concert, this is crazy work. I'm not trying to be involved in this fucking menagerie of nonsense.
[0:59:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Here's for for those who don't know about the photo. Right? So, apparently, Dave and x factor got caught at the Coldplay concert. Right? But... So it won't seem obvious, right, or or or wrong or whatever. They added me in the photo. But in all reality, it's a photo of David.
[0:59:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. Nat Nat was catching a stray there. So it's up at the top if you wanna see it pinned. Obviously, so we didn't dox ourselves. We got a real photo, and we we cartoonized it on on Ghibli, but this actually happened. So... Yeah. Just noticed who... Oh, yes. The cancer coach shared something else. I was like, damn, Dave. You got that off real quick from the from the main pin. But we... I was actually in another space today, and we were just... Bandit space, and we were just talking about, hey. Is it okay to, like, glaze the hump... Like, the homies? Is that, like, appropriate, or is it, like, you know, a little a little soft? So I was like, bro, if you can't glaze the homies and, like, support your bros, then what the hell's the point? Right? You know, like, I think Dave's a good looking guy. He does a lot for this space. If I wanna comment and say nice things about him and maybe give him a hug behind a Coldplay concert, it's not... It's my prerogative. I should be able to do that without being judged is all I'm saying.
[1:00:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you know what? Spoons
[1:00:19] Moni @monitalan: Pause. You know, never mind.
[1:00:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: As long as you act casual
[1:00:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: there's no icon that
[1:00:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can
[1:00:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's no problem. What's the what's the big deal?
[1:00:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, get away from behind me, bro. Look at your face. Look how excited you are in that picture. Okay? Leave me in that to be. We were enjoying the con... Me and HR, we're enjoying the concert to ourselves. Diva La Vida.
[1:00:39] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Where's Landy?
[1:00:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You don't remember us jamming out to... I used to rule the world, and I slowly wrapped up around you. It was great.
[1:00:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. This is work. This pause everywhere. Pause everywhere.
[1:00:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: So Dave, you next ship to Miami, like, expect the one
[1:00:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: to know... I'm never I'm never coming to check our our joint calendar. One second. I'll let you know in a second.
[1:01:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. No. No. Monica, don't tell him when I'm coming to Miami. You hear me?
[1:01:08] Moni @monitalan: Don't...... Miami. So I don't... I wouldn't know I'm not in my... I'm in Texas.... With the
[1:01:14] xFactor @xFactorPOL: bitch. Damn, man. It looks
[1:01:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: like we
[1:01:15] xFactor @xFactorPOL: have something scheduled for our Basel, Dave. Looking forward to seeing you, baby.
[1:01:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Joint
[1:01:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: countdown and everything. Wow.
[1:01:22] Moni @monitalan: I I thought X Factor was joining our trip to New York.
[1:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Next thing I know, it's gonna be like, so I'm gonna be on some sushi platter being like, can we paint you, Sarah? It's like, yo. Chill out. Chill the f out. No. No. We cannot.
[1:01:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Need to sushi off the supermodel, bro?
[1:01:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you even living your life?
[1:01:40] Moni @monitalan: Okay. Can we can we, like, change the topic? We need to take Nat to a Billy Joel concert.
[1:01:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a good point. That's a very good point. Yeah, Nat. What the hell?
[1:01:49] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's... Nothing scandalous happens at a Billy Joel concert. That's for damn sure.
[1:01:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Look. I'll go with Monica. She... I'm scared of David X Factor. Monica with you.
[1:02:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Honestly, David's trying to pin me in the wrong light, but, like, I'd be more scared of David than me. I'm a perfectly normal person. I mean, it's odd.
[1:02:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's I would normally jump at the... First off, I would jump at the opportunity. Monica and Nat were like, oh, we wanna go to the Billy Joe concert. Like, let's go. I'll treat everybody. I'll buy this Seriously. It's it's
[1:02:18] xFactor @xFactorPOL: in my hand. It's in my hand.
[1:02:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, chill out.
[1:02:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I have PTSD over Billy Joel Elton's concert. No.
[1:02:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You throw x factor into the mix. You would think, oh, it's like the... That cute little double... No. No.
[1:02:29] Moni @monitalan: Wait. I wanna I wanna know why you have PTSD for a Philly troll concert.
[1:02:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Why do you have PTSD? What what the hell?
[1:02:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Because years ago, I got a bonus from a job I was... I worked. And So did say something
[1:02:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: else for me?
[1:02:46] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: First thing I want... First thing I did is I went and bought up close tickets to a Billy Joel, Elton John concert that I was so looking forward to. It was out of town, got a hotel room. I even got us a limousine to take us there. And the limousine got in an accident. And I ended up in the emergency room instead of at the Billy Joel, Elton John concert.
[1:03:15] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Sir, I'm sorry to hear that, but I don't see how that's Billy Joel's fault.
[1:03:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm not saying it's Billy Joel's fault. I actually had asked requested Billy Joel to be played as the opening song not too long ago. By talking about Billy Joel concerts is is is another another deal. Same would apply to an Elton John concert.
[1:03:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: By the way, Billy Joe... Is that something that they do often? Billy Joe, Elton John in one stage? That's a
[1:03:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is this... Yeah. Was dynamic duo right there.
[1:03:43] Moni @monitalan: So they used to do. I used to do. If you're our age, I don't know how old you are.
[1:03:47] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It was a good many years ago. It was probably... For me, it was a once in a lifetime opportunity that was... Did not happen.
[1:03:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: This was all before my time. I'm obviously still 25. So then You
[1:03:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: need to... Right. Yo. Just... You need to let the 25 shtick just go, lady. Okay? Let it go.
[1:04:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I was 30 for ten years.
[1:04:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: You go for it, Matt. No. No. No. No. Okay? Cool. Is that the kids game? Cool. By the way, Brenda sent me a DM. He wants to know one prediction markets on the Lily games, bro. Like, we've been waiting for these... We... I need yes, no on Billy Betts, bro, with these AAU games. So get back to us. Let us know. And tell your... Ask your kid if he's willing to take a dive in the second quarter so that we can win some hella money. But no, Nat. No. No. No. No. Across the board. No. Coperto, Web three, welcome. What's up?
[1:04:44] Coperto @copertoxbt: Hey, guys. Thanks for having me. I really like your space. It's, relaxed, funny, and at the same time informative, which, brings me to my question. I don't wanna turn this into, like, a q and a space, so I'm gonna be, like, pretty short. But I was wondering if you guys can tell me how exactly do you guys do your research for projects? I mean, besides the tokenomics, obviously. I mean, how do you find out who's involved in the project, and how do you know how to trust them? Or, you know, just stuff like this. Bay... Basic basic things that make you, like, I don't know, may make you like, okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna buy this coin or whatever.
[1:05:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a good question. Like, when you hear d y 0 r... Yeah. You hear d y 0 r and just like, what the hell is d y... Like, what does that mean? Like, this was one of, like, legit... I I remember, like, my... The seconds... The second space I ever ran, I literally did, like, a what does d y o r actually mean, and I create... And I went through a whole checklist of stuff of, like, what does doing my own research... This is 2021. Things might be a little bit different now, but I'll let the panel take it here from here, and then then we'll we'll we'll see what they got. But, yeah, Nat, Monica, go for it, then we'll say what's up to Landy.
[1:06:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So for me, it's... It... One one portion of it is the tokenomics. But for me, it's very important to know who's behind the team and who's running it in their background. So I joined x spaces. I do the Discord. I do Telegram. Some founders are actually open to having one on ones. You know, tell... Telegram, you're allowed to have call sessions on Telegram. Right? And some founders are open to a call session on Telegram and kinda just get to know them. And and some companies now, what they do is if you go on their website, you can see their team. And all of their team, they have social media, and you... And they have LinkedIn. So it's kinda just like going through all of these things and kind of and kind of painting the picture on your own. Once you've got all the information, then the tokenomics and the token, when was it launched, and all of that good stuff. But that's how I do it. Right? I look at everything, the the token, the team, the history in the background.
[1:07:00] Moni @monitalan: I was gonna say, well, DYOR is actually Dior, but... I'm just kidding. I I... Everything that Matt said, but also you should look at the white paper if there's one. I love that now we have ethos, so you can look at ethos for the project and for the founders. I've actually... Have not worked with some people who have looked at at that. And I do think one of the things I would love to improve in the... Infofy is to understand what vetting they did. Right? They're allowing all these projects to be pretty much promoted, but the... What type of criteria are they looking at? So... And and then ask for community. That's why I've always said it's so important to be a part of, like, a community like this community. Right? We have the space from Monday to to Thursday, about eight to nine. I've been joining. And so, really, is find a community that can also help you answer those questions. I go to a lot of people and say, have you heard of this project? Do you know these folks? And a no from one person leads me away from the project.
[1:08:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great point. Yeah. Good stuff. Hey, Nat. Look who's in the audience. Bits of wealth. Never thought we'd see you, bits of wealth. I'd come if Nat that was
[1:08:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: the the the host for
[1:08:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: another day.
[1:08:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's one of us. One of us.
[1:08:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: In the wolf space,.
[1:08:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's such a leader, Dave.
[1:08:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Chill out. Landy, if you say the wolf spaces... And I just heard... Found out today there's a wolf chat? There's a wolf chat. Okay. Alright. I see how it is. Alright. Don't forget that house. Who built that house? Alright? Number one. Who built that house? It was me. I'm the bad guy.
[1:08:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. It was bread.
[1:08:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. If I say something like... If I sound like... Landy, what's up, bro? Bits of wealth was good, baby. Landy, what's up, brother?
[1:08:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Congratulations, Dave. Congratulations. Nat, we'll get that bit... Bits of wealth. We'll get that. I'm doing alright. I'm enjoying the market price action within traditional markets today. Had to had to take some some early morning puts and got a few wins bracketing on Bitcoin, watching, everyone scream on the timeline. When I do get a chance to scroll through, everyone is either, very, very bullish. This is the low. Everything's going to rip from here. Or they're very, very bearish, and they're very upset that there has been no alt season yet. And that is the the... And I'm not just trolling. By the way, the alt season conversation is, like, there's, like, this weird dynamic going on on on in the discourse surrounding cryptos. Like, where there is no possible way we cannot have a full blown alt season and this be the top. And that's like, you know, I would tend to agree, but we live in very weird times. So, you know, we're we're taking it day by day, step by step, day by day. And the the market is... It it giveth and it taketh away over longer periods of time. And if we see a change like this where we don't get a full blown alt season, I think that people might just melt down and lose their damn minds.
[1:10:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Dave, that was for you?
[1:10:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No.
[1:10:32] Moni @monitalan: No. Well, I was also gonna say I love the... Do you not love those KOLs that every week is like, next week is out season? And so every week, you get the same. Welcome back, Lendi.
[1:10:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: I love it. I love it. Thank you. Look. I mean, I...
[1:10:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Lendi thrives off that.
[1:10:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: It it fuels me. Look. I mean, I I am known to be a bit of a troll when it comes to meme coins. I am known as the meme coin grim reaper, the meme coin hater, when I'm really not. I just don't like the meme coins that other people like. I also prefer utility. I'd like my coin to actually do something, like be attached to an AI that allows me to bet or being attached to AI so that that that can do analysis now, which is really cool because, I've been told that that's what my my analysis is. It's all just GPT. So I might as well use an AI agent. Right? Just... No. Dave knows what I'm getting at here. There's, like, really good stuff, I think, that that is being productized, that is being attached to web three and cryptocurrencies that I think are far more valuable than a lot of the trash that people typically invest in. So, you know, it... It's... That's where I'm at, and I hunt value. A lot of people don't hunt value. They hunt narrative. And you need value and a narrative, but in most cases, if you just have a narrative, it's not gonna last very long. And that's one of the reasons why all of these people in in our, all of our peers in this ecosystem that we call Web three or crypto Twitter or crypto x, you know, I think half of them are gonna lose their mind, especially if price continues to the downside. They they will absolutely lose their mind. And that's what I'm waiting for. And I... They're getting there. They're cracking, Monica. We're we're cracking them with the price action. Now we just need to see them actually fall off the cliff, fall off the horse, and and and declare that they are leaving forever, and then run that shit to the upside forevermore and leave them behind.
[1:12:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think that would be a beautiful playwright, especially with BTC. If we see a tag, the liquidity is at the bottom, and everybody's screaming zero, and then it turns around and it hits a high.
[1:12:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: It straddles. They do move. Wolf spaces. Man.
[1:12:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Delta neutral. Dave, this was, like, a perfect delta neutral area. When it it hit... 13 and a half, by the way, is where that weekly higher low was set on a closing basis. When it hit that, it was the perfect delta neutral trade for a lot of people. Now I would prefer a little bit wider set. Like, I took a long at one twelve. I took a short at one thirteen, front running the one thirteen and a half. But, look, you can't lose. One side gets let go when it's when it's winning. That's all. And and right now, we're just kinda sitting there, and I'm collecting fees because people keep longing into the market and long... Paying shorts, and I have equal sized positions. So thank you for paying my funding fees. I'm literally paying myself from the long side to the short side for my own positions. So I... I'm okay with this.
[1:13:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Words of a market maker. There you go.
[1:13:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: If the next words out of your mouth, okay, we're gonna be we're gonna we're gonna be anything.
[1:13:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, on the Wolf space, you know, we cover... Okay.
[1:13:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: In the Wolf space. In the Wolf space. You
[1:14:01] Moni @monitalan: can I
[1:14:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: haven't even been there? I haven't even been there,
[1:14:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: and so
[1:14:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm missing all of the context that that was bringing up. So I... I'm I'm sure that there was... I had to come in and say congratulations. That is a Wolf space thing. Specifically, is an OTG thing. So it... It's not even... He transcends the Wolfspace at that point with that. But I'm sure that Bits was talking about Solana going to zero. Nat Nat was talking about her traditional market trades and her her straddle on Bitcoin. I can almost guarantee that at some point, there was something about where the liquidity is. And then here, I can almost guarantee... I wasn't here, but I guarantee that 99% of this space was Infofy. Brett said Billy bets at least once, and maybe Billy sweats. I'm not quite sure.
[1:14:53] Moni @monitalan: You don't mean to listen to the recording. That's all I have to say.
[1:14:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Nailed it.
[1:14:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you guys... Yes. Everyone should go back and listen to the recording. What the hell is this? Oh, look at bits of what... Nat, don't you dare.
[1:15:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Goddamn, man. Up, bitch? Crazy.
[1:15:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. It's a full on takeover.
[1:15:11] Moni @monitalan: Yay. I actually... Real quick. I have to jump off, but thank you so much for having me on stage. I have a client call. So bye.
[1:15:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bye, fancy c suite c c o fancy pants. Whatever.
[1:15:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, we didn't get a... We... Yeah.
[1:15:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: We actually didn't get a chance to talk about the call from Epoch nine today, which I thought was really, really amazing, and kinda like the feedback that we got from the Ethereum Foundation and a bunch of the other shit. So... But...
[1:15:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey, Dave. Dave, is that cool is that cool crypto from Wolf crypto?
[1:15:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You need to chill out. Alright? Listen to me.
[1:15:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nice to Everyone,
[1:15:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chill out. Let me talk let me talk to the dude that literally... His name is bits of wealth with a bear in his PFP. Makes zero sense to me. It's like it's like the biggest paradox I've ever seen in my life. Bits of Wealth, what's up?
[1:15:59] Voice G: What's up, man? Dude, Landy's... I think Landy's sitting in the the anonymous listeners is what he's doing over there because he...
[1:16:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: I told you.
[1:16:09] Voice G: He about nailed it. You know what I mean?
[1:16:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's in the grease trap, bitch. He's always in the grease trap. He says he's not. He's also not a fortune teller, bro.
[1:16:17] Voice G: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:16:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: He heard my call.
[1:16:20] Voice G: We know what's going on there. You know?
[1:16:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Vince, what's good, man? Talk to me. What's your market outlook, brother?
[1:16:27] Voice G: I'm just chilling, man. I'm doing alright. I'm watching BTC here. I'm seeing people get, like, super bearish on the timeline. Man, I mean, we've got, like, big YouTubers calling for 90 k and stuff, man, and we're, like, we're nowhere near that. So it's pretty funny. But... Now... Look. I I think I think there's up before there's more down. It's kinda been my my model here for a little bit. And, dude, it's so funny. Like, you make this comment about how can you be a bear, but but, like, being crypto or even people start tripping out, like, when I start posting long setups. It's like, dude, how the... How are you, like, mid to high time frame bearish, but you're, like, posting long setups? And I'm like, man, I don't know if there's, like, IQ barrier to this shit or something, but it's like, dude, like, things don't go straight up, and they don't go straight down. Like, there's there's, you know, there's volatility both ways. So it's pretty funny, man. But... No. Look. I think I think we're about bottomed here. I think if anything, maybe there's a little bit more on the table. I I really don't see a move below, like, one ten, not yet. I would think it makes a lot of sense, dude, that we go back up and get back up near one fifteen, one sixteen or so. And and then we'll see what happens. I mean, and, honestly, if you get enough momentum, may... Maybe this is where we drive up to, like, that one twenty ish, if we can get past that one sixteen ish, level. So I don't know, man. I'm just kinda chilling. I I don't think it's as bad as everyone's making it out to be. I just think most people were caught off guard with the with the dump, which was interesting because, mean, Landy shit. We we talked about a potential rejection there for how long. Right? We were kinda saying that this is a... This is like a cool off zone. Like, don't be surprised if it pulls back a little bit here, but, you know, that's how t... How CT works, man. I don't know, Dave. It's it's crazy out here, bro.
[1:18:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna tell you, you know, we... We've been talking about this for a long time. I've been obviously sharing my analysis here and so is not. Anything below one eighteen is generally seen as bearish in my book. I need to see above one eighteen to go test one twenty to one twenty one, and only if we see a break above there can we push shorts out. I still... And this is the interesting part. I took my swing short position at about... I don't know. It was like... After the highs were put in, we went into a lower term time frame downtrend on, like, the fifteen minute chart. I positioned a short hedge. Just a hedge. I had a long... A swing long on from one twelve at the time, and I ended up having to build that position out. Right? But I'm still... Even after building that position out, I'm still averaged in above... Slightly above one twenty one. So I know that it's not just me that's sitting above there, it's others because I've been taking profit on the way down, and I reloaded on the failure at one eighteen because we pretty much tested it on spot. So unless it gets above one eighteen, that's when I start looking and going, okay. I have to reevaluate. How much do I have left on the table? How how in profit are my lungs? If we start pushing the one twenty to one twenty one, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get stopped out of this... The rest... Or the little bit remaining in that swing short, and that's gonna be a lot. There's a ton of liquidity up there, and you could just see a candle just shoot right up through it and then come right back down. And then we have to reevaluate and say, okay. Now that they've been pushed out, did they reposition, or is there more juice to squeeze to the upside towards the all time high and potentially higher? And that's where everyone is, like, on the fence right now because of the time of year, and wind cycle theory typically would say that it would be topping time. And then also all of the other factors that are happening with currencies, bonds, traditional markets, and, like, all that kind of stuff where the door is wide open for for everyone to be wrong, both people to the upside and people to the downside. It's just as equally possible, and it's the most coin flip time period that I can remember since, I don't know, since o seven going into o eight. We knew it was gonna have to come down hard at some point and correct and... Or and or just full on crash, but everyone was just having to call the top again and again and again for about a year to a year and a half before everything crumbled in traditional markets. I haven't really experienced anything like the sentiment that I'm seeing in traditional markets. And now, of course, we didn't have crypto markets, and... But I see the same sentiment, the same kind of confusion, the conjecture, the top calling for... Literally, there's people who've been calling for the top since last year, every single high. December of last year and then earlier this year and then now. And it's like, at some point, they're gonna be right. And then there's no point in trying to call a top. And it's just like, there's really no point to... You're not gonna know until later anyway. So just enjoy the ride. And if you don't know how to hedge, you gotta go and research how to hedge. Even if it's spot hedging or, you know, different centralized...
[1:21:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did you... Did you... That
[1:21:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: was not that was not... Yo. I was on Telegram. I was on... I was taking...
[1:21:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're all good.
[1:21:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're all good. Thanks, Cole.
[1:22:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: I had no worries, bud. But I would say, like, just learn how to hedge. Even if you even if you just go and learn how to spot hedge, some perp decks are now allowing you to spot hedge, and some entire chains like HyperLiquid can allow you to spot hedge through various methods. And I say do research on that because you can get yourself in the positions that keep you safe both ways, and then you can make decisions later about what you wanna do for letting one side go or the other.
[1:22:32] Voice G: Yo. It's funny that you say about, like, the top calling or the bottom calling or any of that type of stuff. Like, a lot of that, I think people just fail to to realize that, like, you you do a little bit of that for for the fun on CT. Right? Like, certainly, when I start leaning into, like, really bearish stuff, like, Landy brought up me always talking about Solana going to zero. Like, you know, maybe there's some truth in that in that I've got a... I've got, like, a personal bias in in how I feel about Seoul. But at the same time, it's like, obviously, it's not going to zero. You know what I mean? And and if it was, it's not gonna go, like, tomorrow to zero. But, yeah, it's just funny, man. Like, CT's... It's one of those things that people judge you really quickly by by what you post. And I think a lot of times, you can't really get to know someone until you, like, hop on a space and you're hearing them out, you're hearing them talk about what they truly believe, or you jump on a livestream. Right, Landy? Like, you know, a lot of people could just look at what you post and try and judge you by that. But it's like, go go jump on a livestream Landy does where he's talking about stuff and then maybe understand how he looks at the market a little bit. And maybe he's a little bit more reasonable than he might seem if you're just judging by the puppet and, you know, some other stuff or whatever. But... And the same things are said about me. Like, oh, he's got a bear USP, and he's he's got a pinned post that Zalando's going to zero, and it's like, this guy's obviously an idiot. I don't know. I mean, maybe come come hear me out a little bit. You know? Maybe I'm not that crazy, man.
[1:23:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: So... Yo, Bitserweld, are you... Bro, I hear the Spanish in there, man. I can't believe this. Another one that's coming No. No. What are you doing, man? You're doing this on purpose. Like, this is this is purposeful. And let's What's
[1:24:10] Voice G: what's going on with the Spanish, though? I mean, like, what?
[1:24:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, essentially, like, I'm now in, like, the prime of my my Infofy career, and I'm literally surrounded by Spaniards or Latinos and Latinas, and I'm just like, yeah. I'll take it. Like, let's go. The more of you, the merrier because y'all are bringing me massive good luck, bro. So bits of wealth, bring me bit... Bits and bits and bits and bits of wealth, bro. So god bless. Y'all, bro. Let's go.
[1:24:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: But what what... Where where
[1:24:37] Moni @monitalan: are you from?
[1:24:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know my man? Because we have, x factor that's Cuban. I'm Dominican and Puerto Rican, and I believe, what's Monica?
[1:24:43] Voice G: Yeah. I'm Mexican. I got Mexican blood. So...
[1:24:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think Monica's Mexican. I think she said she... Because she has... I think she's a jet family in Mexico City when she was visiting. Yeah. Crazy. I love it.
[1:24:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: I love honorary Peruvian. So
[1:24:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, you're a puppet, bro, with a crown that's way too big for your head. So great. Yeah. Real real quick. I wanna cover this last story. But right before I get to
[1:25:11] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Can I
[1:25:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: add before I?
[1:25:12] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Can I add one thing that was on about the DYOR? A friend of mine, Casey, posted in the chats a project checklist. If anybody wants to take a look at it, I posted it up to the top.
[1:25:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dope. Love that. Thank you. That's great. You love checklists. Like, use checklists. Like, that shit helps a lot. Stoop, I'm coming to you right now real quick. Just give me a second, but I just wanna cover this before, because I I I only got five minutes. But credit card giants Visa and Stripe team up with Fold to launch the Bitcoin rewards card. Wall Street coming... Excuse me. Wall Street coming to crypto. You guys remember we had the Fold representative here on ATC probably, like, six... Maybe six, eight months ago, something like that. I I like this. Fold is heavy. I mean, they are... Like, they're a monster out here. And now you're talking about Visa and Stripe coming together with Fold three and a half percent cash back. Excuse me, BTC back on every single purchase, two percent instantly, one and a half percent once you actually pay it off with your full checking account. I think that's genius, man. Yo. After Coinbase one card, Amex. Alright? If you're listening, forget you, but if you wanna sponsor, Holla. Yeah. Go with Fold. Get paid in Fold. You don't need American Express.
[1:26:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: I use it. I use Fold.
[1:26:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love that.
[1:26:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: After that space, I went and checked it out. I downloaded their app. It's slick. It works, and the BTC rewards are real.
[1:26:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it, man. I love it. I love it. Stoop, what's up, bro?
[1:26:45] Voice K: No, man. Good thing to know about the full stuff. New news. But, yeah, also falls in line to... Over the weekend, the WF meeting that they had talking about how they're planning on new fucking currency going around. And the only reason the whole world hasn't got on board is because they're scared of The United States of just like
[1:27:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which meeting? Which meeting did you say?
[1:27:09] Voice K: The WEF, bro. World Economic Forum.
[1:27:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. And what were they talking about?
[1:27:15] Voice K: Also, they're talking about fucking new currency and shit. And they said that, like, the only reason they don't wanna get on board with the whole crypto situation is because they're scared of America fucking everybody else over again. But good to know, man. Yeah. New investments coming up. But we definitely need a beater coin or some shit, man. Get all the Hispanic people on board.
[1:27:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. What
[1:27:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: kind of coin? We we need some kind of what?
[1:27:44] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Said he
[1:27:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: said brick... He said brick... He said put all the... All I heard was put all the Hispanic people on board. I'm like, yeah. Apparently, like, let's go. Like, we... Yeah. Get all the big deal.
[1:28:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fire. I don't wanna hear it, man.
[1:28:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't know who made
[1:28:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: that one. Yankee.
[1:28:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: The Yankee. Yo. We played gasoline at the open. I don't wanna hear it. Appreciate the stoops. What else? Nat, anything? Landy, bits, bread
[1:28:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. Metabee guys p c... PCE report on this Friday, and then I believe we have a GDP revision on Thursday. Correct, Landy?
[1:28:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Yes. And we got flash PMI numbers today that are, you know, kinda telling the story for what's coming up. Look. Expect some some volatility in the markets, based on these month to month reports from here until the end of the year, probably from here until we get a new FOMC chair. And then I think the market's going to choose a real direction for the longer term. So just, you know, that's why I got my, you know, q four to q one. End of q one into q two is when we're gonna see FOMC, and that's really where the rubber hits the road. Anybody who's really like, you know, oh, well, the macroeconomics this and the macroeconomics that, understand that it all hinges on what the what the Fed does. It... We are we are a Fed driven global economy at this point. And to to that point, they... I don't think they're gonna screw up everything before it gets there, but I I do have concerns about what might be done when we get a new Fed chair. Not for the very, very long term, but definitely in the near term. Dropping rates to the levels that that they want to do is gonna cause a lot of pain in my opinion, but I I want to be wrong about that. And every month until then, I think we're gonna see, probably the markets continuing to push higher to get more hedges in in... On the traditional market side. And I would love to see that bleed over to the crypto side, but with gold and silver and everything else just ripping, it makes it very difficult.
[1:30:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Alright, Kate. That's it. That's Tuesday's edition. ATC, 07:00 on the dot. I like it. We're efficient out here. Cool. I hope your boy wins. Thank you, Nat. Appreciate you. Landy, as always, bread, make the devs do something. Billy Price needs to go up. I'm still aping. I don't know why. I feel like I'm addicted to this, but I believe in you. You son
[1:30:39] Voice G: of a bitch.
[1:30:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I... I've got so much more.
[1:30:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god, bro. I got Billy coming out of my ears, bro.
[1:30:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, Same here.
[1:30:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let... Tell them that to take that that that sweats rev and start pumping it into the token, bro. Bits, appreciate you, man. Coming through as always, brother. Cobra, great addition, man. Thank you so much for the amazing questions. Meta Beast, of course, as always. And the stoops, I didn't really kinda get you, but, hey. Listen. That's what we're here for. But we'll see you guys we'll see you guys tomorrow, Wednesday. Don't forget, guys. Tweet at the top tomorrow morning, 9AM eastern time. I'm running the aligner space. I would very much appreciate. Help me push that out. Would love to see you guys there. Obviously, all my hosts and co hosts up here as well, man. But hope everyone has a good night, and we will see y'all. Peace.
[1:31:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hey, Vera.
[1:31:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.