All Things Crypto. BEAR OR BULL MARKET??

# All Things Crypto. BEAR OR BULL MARKET?? | 2025-09-25 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1OyKAjRQkPNGb | status: approved
# Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed.

[0:00:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Every day I'm hustling. Every
[0:00:15] Voice L: day
[0:00:42] Voice K: I'm the fucking boss. $7.40 five, white on white. That's fucking gross. I cut them wide. I cut them long. I cut them fat. I keep them coming back.
[0:00:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: We keep them coming back.
[0:00:55] Voice K: I'm in the distribution.
[0:00:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm like Atlantic.
[0:00:59] Voice K: I got the motherfuckers flying across the Atlantic. I know Pablo, Pablo. Gloria Yeager. Oh, the real Gloria. He o p a 100
[0:01:45] Voice K: We never steal cars,
[0:02:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: Damn. What up, baby?
[0:03:24] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Funny story about my request of this
[0:03:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yo. Cool. You got a doppelganger, bro. What's good?
[0:04:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh,
[0:04:14] Voice H: snap.
[0:04:14] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I knew there was that that... This song, but I can't tell you when I had heard it or what I was hearing in my head and what I was actually thinking of when I requested it was l m a f o except for that shuffling. I'm like, goddamn. That's so stupid.
[0:04:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's okay, though. I feel like I still... I feel like that was a banger anyway, bro. Like, Rick Ross Yeah.
[0:04:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yes. Yes. Exactly.
[0:04:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. For show. For show. Oh, snap. Cool. Did you just boot your doppelganger? Saw You that imitator that you had down there with that little network, like, knock off PFP? That was messed up, man. That was crazy. What's up, everybody? Hope everybody's doing well. Welcome to the final installation of ATC, the bloody bloody Thursday edition, the more pain to come edition, the don't cry, dry your eyes. Here comes you... Anyways, Nat, what's up?
[0:05:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: What is up, guys? It's been a very interesting day across the board. BTC is at a interesting level. Was it yesterday or the day before that we were talking about liquidity over at this level that there's a chance that we touched the $1,091.06 area, and we're touching it now. I guess we'll dive into that more more in a bit. But great day so far, Dave. Thank you for asking.
[0:05:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's go. Cool. What's cooking, bro?
[0:05:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. What's up, bro? What's up, bro? Yeah. Hey. Hey, guys. Happy Thursday. Yeah. Like I said, you know, money's to be made regardless of up or down. I don't know why people are afraid. I don't I don't I don't get it. Today, there was a massive... It was crazy. A massive airdrop of people. Did this protocol called plasma, anyone that deposited a dollar, they got $10,000 today. Yeah. So I keep telling you guys, there's money being made here. No joke, bro. There's... This is being made in crypto regardless of of bullish or bearish. So don't be scared. Yo. Don't just... Don't don't
[0:06:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: be scared, though. You... You'll be okay. Wait. Cool. Somebody sent me some shit yesterday. Hold on a second. Wait up. Wait up. Wait up. Wee. Somebody sent me some shit yesterday with, like, the same narrative, but it wasn't it wasn't plasma. It was... Hold on. Let me let me look through the d... It was... Hold on. Season two of the app is coming to it. And home. You hear of home? Defi.app? They they gave me some link, and they were like, yo. Swap, like, a dollar or $2, and it's, some thousand dollar bonus or something like that. You see... You get this? Cool? Yeah. Yeah. DeFi app. Yeah. Can hear me? Yeah. Got you.
[0:07:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hear me? Yeah. So, yeah,. The campaign ends soon, so I'm not sure if... Who who sends the link?
[0:07:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somebody that I follow, but I'm like... I don't know. It was probably from, like, way back in the day. I didn't wanna be a
[0:07:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: dick, but was
[0:07:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: like, usually, when I... Yeah.
[0:07:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Don't don't don't click anything, bro. DeFi app is already... You're already too late. I think the campaign ends, like, a week or two, so don't even bother trying trying to get into that right now.
[0:07:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Plasma, a dollar for $10,000. In what world?
[0:07:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, people are crying about the market being down. The guys, money's being made left and right, man. So, I mean, just just be patient, and you'll be fine.
[0:07:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. You heard it.
[0:07:50] Voice L: I guess...
[0:07:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: I agree. I agree 100%. Even if you're... If if you're not into the airdrop stuff, but you're trading the markets and you shorted yesterday into today, oh my god. Those shorts printing some large money, guys.
[0:08:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Quick question for you guys. Real quick before I go around and say what's up to everybody else. But, like, do y'all think that, like, trading competitions are a good way to, like, onboard users? Because I feel like... Remember when we did the whole... What's it called thing? Like, I feel like we had... We all had a lot of fun, but I feel like people are drawn to trading competitions. Do y'all... Like, Nat, you think that's a good idea?
[0:08:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes and no. I think it's a good idea because it onboards people, like you said. Right? However, I think we we... It's bad because not any... Not everyone joining trading competition, they're in... They know... They're... How do I put it? They're not ex... Experienced traders. Right? So a lot of these people that are competing in trading competition, some of them blow their accounts over and over.
[0:08:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: True. Alright. That's cool. Anyways... Yeah. No. Thank you. I appreciate that. Rose. I see Rose came up. Let me find out. We got the loveliness Rose on stage.
[0:08:58] Voice H: What's up, Dave? What's up? What's up? What's up, CoolCrypto. Nat Nat. I got corn... Cornucopia and Metabees and X Factor. What's up? And everybody in space. Let's go. Yeah. I've I've been taking a break, actually, from space because I'm getting rocks left and right. Today, I got rocks again. So let me tell you about it. So I bought some Pokemon cards. Now I'm into Pokemon cards. Right? Great slabs. So I bought two ten p s a Pikachu gray felt hats and for 3.5 k. And they arrived today, and they were fake. Yo. I was like, can this shit even get worse? Like...
[0:09:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fuck, bro. Where'd you buy it from?
[0:09:45] Voice H: It was like a Dutch eBay site. It's called Markblast. And, you know, I've been I've been trading Pokemon cards for years, actually. So I did my research, but when I arrived, I saw, like, the the label on the slab was, like, thick printed. So it wasn't the same, so was fake. Yeah. So...
[0:10:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Does that marketplace do anything about that kind of thing?
[0:10:07] Voice H: Yeah. No. It doesn't.... At all? No. So I just... I I I filed a report of the police, but, yeah, I I lost that money.
[0:10:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn, Rose. I'm sorry to hear that. Fuck.
[0:10:19] Voice H: Yeah. It's it's fucked up.
[0:10:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Y'all psk. I'm telling you, man. Bull market vibes, like, brings, like, scammer season to, like, literally the nth degree. It is crazy how, like, much they've ramped up out here and, like, the nonsense that they're doing. Rose, I'm so sorry to hear. How many did you buy? More than one?
[0:10:39] Voice H: I bought two cars for free k. Yeah. So I lost that money. You know, it is what it is. I'm not gonna be sad about it. You know? I'm not gonna get that money back because I have to, like, file a lawsuit and everything. Shorty shorty......
[0:10:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn.
[0:10:56] Voice H: Oh, really? Yeah. Like, I thought I'm I'm not in Pokemon cards for years. So I checked the number. He sent me pictures, so I checked the number that was on the cards on the slab, and it was all legit. But when I got it, when I received the package today, it was fake. I was like,
[0:11:13] xFactor @xFactorPOL: fuck. Wow.
[0:11:14] Voice L: Wow.
[0:11:21] Voice H: Yeah. We're still here. You know? It's... It is what it is. We'll we'll make it back. We'll just keep going on. Alright? So I heard you got some some intel here. So let me know if you got a good ticker or a project.
[0:11:35] Voice L: So you give my money back. I need
[0:11:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: to make three k, bitches. What kind
[0:11:40] Voice L: of news did Alpha you got for me?
[0:11:43] Voice H: So I'm here. So, yeah, I hope everybody's doing fine. I'm doing fine. But, you know, that that was... That happened to me in the last few days. So... Yeah.
[0:11:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn, Rose. Yeah. But thank you for joining and... Yeah. But I... We'll we'll we'll definitely chat about this for a little bit for sure. But, like, goddamn, man. Like, this is cameras. Fuck. I hate hearing that. I... Like, there's nothing that bothers me more than, like, when somebody that I'm close to, like, literally just loses... Like, that gets taken for money like this. It's such... It... You guys understand what I mean? Like, I... I don't know how y'all were raised, but, like, for me, it almost bothers me more than if it was me. You know what I mean? It's like, like, it just... It it irks me so much. I don't know I don't know how to explain it. Rose Yeah.
[0:12:31] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I got I got hit by something I had never heard of last week too. Lost a $180. Address poisoning? Have you ever heard of that?
[0:12:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. You got hit with address poisoning?
[0:12:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yes. In a wallet wallet, I hadn't... I sent some ETH to, and I let... Left it sit there for the longest time until I went went to go take it off. And I... So I have no idea how I ended up with it.
[0:12:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: I thought you said that worked itself out. I remember you saying that that was... It it worked out.
[0:13:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I got... I... It worked out the rest of it. Oh, no. That was the Avantis. The the Avantis, I I don't know what triggered it, but something seemed weird. And I... So one of the transactions I made, I checked the address just with Chatty b t, and it... Because... Oh, because I wanted it to look over the contract and tell me if there was anything funny about it. But it said there... It was associate... It was... It started with numbers that were associated with scam wallets.
[0:13:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh, so is that what you do? You gotta be careful. Yes. So, like like... For for those that don't know what the fuck, like, address poisoning is, it's essentially, like, when somebody sends you... Like, they try and, like, mimic your exact address, and then they send you a bunch of, like, similar, like, really, really tiny transactions. And then when you go and, like, you you pull your address from, like, your transaction history, right, like, you caught... You look at it, you're like, oh, yeah. That's mine. And you copy paste it, and you end up sending it to them because you think that that's yours, but in essence, it's not. Right? Like, you... They literally, like, just fucking... They specifically register addresses that, like, start with, like, the first five or six letters or numbers like yours or end in the final, like, five or seven whatever. And the next thing you know, you're just like, oh, where... Like, what the hell is the money? Like, I sent the money somewhere. And it's like you scamming yourself in a way. It's kinda crazy.
[0:14:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Here's the kicker with it too, which took me a while to solve, but I did because I had more on there. And once I realized that happened, I'm like, fuck. Get this shit off of here. But the kicker was it didn't matter if I tie... No matter what I did with the address, it would always... When I put the address in, whether I typed it, copy pasted it, a pop up would always show up with an address, and I had to click that in order to continue. And that's where the switch was made was in that pop up. I'm like, how am I supposed to get this fucking off of here? Because it doesn't let you continue if you even just type in the address. So it was really... I was like, oh my god.
[0:15:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. Fifteen minutes into the show, guys. $200.
[0:15:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:15:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Killer. We're talking scams out here. Come on. Have a heart.
[0:15:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Rob me more rob me more than... And just after I got robbed. I'd love that.
[0:15:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's crazy work, Metabies. I'm sorry. And I'm sorry for my cohost. Was a... I... She has ice water...
[0:15:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. Well, miss Rose got hit. That's even... That was way worse. But... So I'm sorry.
[0:15:41] Voice H: Because I was like, okay. I got, like, right left and right here and left free. So I was like, okay. I'm just invest into Pokemon cards because, you know, that shit only goes up, but let me invest my real money into Pokemon cards. So I was like, okay. This is a good deal. I bought two of them, and they arrived today, and they're fake. Like, I was like, okay. Like, I thought this was gonna be my lucky day. Well, of course not. That's how this shit goes. But, you know, we'll survive, guys. We'll make it back. It's all good. Yeah. Just another lesson.
[0:16:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: We just... Like, when you think about, like, how hard it is just to make three, and a half k out here. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying this, like, crazy, but, like, we grind. Like, we really, really grind for three and a half. You know, when I look at, like, my... The tunnel shit that I do every day, you know what that is? That's literally three months of tunnel grinding. Like, like, two... A month and a half, two months. You know? Like, that's crazy work. Damn, Rose. Fuck. Yeah. This
[0:16:37] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Or one or one aligner is supposed to
[0:16:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chill out. Yo. Chill... Why why do y'all gotta be funny? X factor, what's up? We we missed you yesterday, kinda. Not really, but it was fun.
[0:16:47] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What's up, my brother? I I missed everybody on this stage as well. Mine is Dave. So it's good to be here again. And, bro, it's been it's been crazy, man. We wrapped up that, the InfoFy campaign and just... Dude, you know you know what's crazy? Getting people to send me their wallets so I can airdrop them the rewards. It's like my guy. There was, like, four people on the on the Telegram chat, like, asking, hey. When are the airdrops? I was like, dude, when are you gonna send me the damn wallet, my my bro? Like, what are we doing over there? It's it's crazy. This this is a friendly reminder. If you participate in airdrops, check your airdrops, guys. I've I've seen multiple people get cooked and just not collect whatever it is for not for not checking it. And I I literally see it right now. Like, people are asking where their money is without giving me a wallet to send. It's just absolutely diabolical. I was like, guys, come on. I'm cooked. You can't do this to You cannot do this to me right now. But other than that, man, things are good. I'm just keeping keeping my head down and and continuing this this web three journey that that we're all on. So happy to be here again and and and meeting with you guys like always.
[0:17:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You you sound tired, X Factor. You legit.
[0:18:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: X Factor said he got the whole... All his kids over. He got, like, 15 of them, and they're all over his house, and they're running around.
[0:18:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh my god. What in the... Not... I'm Hispanic, Hispanic, not Mexican. You know? Come on. Like, relax. Like, I have I have three kids. I have three kids, and no disrespect to Mexicans. I love my Mexican people, but come on now.
[0:18:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Let me come on there.
[0:18:19] xFactor @xFactorPOL: We come on to get here, man.
[0:18:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's... I'm I'm really
[0:18:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Come on, bro. I'm telling you guys back there.
[0:18:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's no disrespect. Clip it. Clip it.
[0:18:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: Clip it. Clip it. I love
[0:18:27] xFactor @xFactorPOL: my Mexican people, I said, bro. I enjoy margaritas. I enjoy freaking mezcal.
[0:18:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: I didn't
[0:18:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: hear you say you enjoy, that's fine. That's whatever. Get it.
[0:18:37] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Well, that's that's that's neither here nor there. That might get me a fine. I'm I'm I'm I'm measured when
[0:18:43] Voice L: I'm here, man. That doesn't play.
[0:18:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Shit. You get... You guys are getting rugged left and right, and that's already giving out fines.
[0:18:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's just That is diabolical. That works. I like how you I like how you
[0:18:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm messing change that.
[0:18:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like how you switch that up on that. That was nice. She does have ice water running through her vent. She cold as hell. That's crazy.
[0:19:00] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hey. But you... But but, Dave, really quick before I... And I posted this in our chat. Right? But what in the four zero one k b s is... I swear I haven't checked that shit in, like, two years. And I I I literally tilted. I was like, bro, I'm getting 2.09% return on my four... On my Roth IRA. Alright. I am literally tomorrow gonna call, get that crap out of there, and just, like, full port my bags.
[0:19:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I told you.
[0:19:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: This is insane. Like,
[0:19:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: when you see
[0:19:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: now when you see how much... How, excuse me, how little money you make in your four zero one k, and then you see, like, on Katana that you can make 47% on your stables, you're saying to yourself, what am I doing here? Like, why am I here? Like, this is crazy work.
[0:19:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: The the only the only reason I I did it, my... So, like, my company does, a 3% company match, which is pretty nice. So that's why I I did it. And for for multiple years, it's been fine. But I gotta find a little flywheel where they still pay me that, and then I take it out
[0:19:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, don't take the whole thing out, x factor. Don't take the whole thing out. Let them continue to match. Right? Because you'll still put into it, and then take the penalty on it. Right? Like, who cares? Like, would take it with
[0:20:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. There's there's... There... I don't get... I don't have a penalty. It's a Roth. I paid taxes on it because I... My my... It's a Roth IRA, so there's no there's no penalties.
[0:20:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. So then remove... We're like, quick quick. Let's go, like, bro, full port.
[0:20:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Don't. Don't. Don't.
[0:20:17] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm going I'm going to I'm going to Merrill Lynch. I already scheduled an appointment. I'm gonna I'm gonna be at Merrill Lynch tomorrow and be like, sir or madam, give me my money. I'm gonna drop it into Ethereum or Bitcoin on this Yeah.
[0:20:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Because just so you know, just so you you can be prepared, they're going they're going to try to rebuttal the life out of you. Right? What you... I wanna take my money out of Why do you wanna take your money out? These are all the other assets that we can provide. I used to work for Maryland.
[0:20:40] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Not... I I I I deal... Oh, no. Well, I I mean, I I deal with this stuff every day in in web two. I'm gonna be, like, respectfully
[0:20:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: But when it comes to, like, the Roth IRA stuff or just four zero one k investments in general, right, it really does depend on your company match, your contribution, and what you invest in. Right? Some companies, they allow you to invest your four zero one k into, like, their company stock. And if it's doing well, you make a lot of money.
[0:21:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. Mine mine doesn't. That's what I wanted to do. It's a very vanilla offering by by Merrill. I looked into it. You can only... It's... It it lets you pick between, like, 15 or 20 funds, and they're all not particularly attractive. Yeah. I... I'm like, alright. If it's not a Bitcoin fund, I'm gonna take most of my money out and just ape into, I don't
[0:21:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: know, Hedera. There you go. You know what? Just have to start with Hedera. That's all... You just have to start with that.
[0:21:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hedera. Hedera. Yeah. You know what's even crazier? It's like, I'm
[0:21:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what's even crazier? It's like, as we're talking right now, I'm literally fight... You guys remember, like, I had that compromised wallet. There was nothing worse than, like, a compromised wallet that you know... Like, that you're getting rewards in. Like, because you guys remember when I launched Junie on virtuals? I get, like, c b b t c deposits, like, every day for, like, $20.30 bucks. And, like, I have to be so fast in order to just, like, open up the wall. I get the alerts. I open up the MetaMask, and I literally just, and I have to fling it out. I just got $95 in CBBTC deposits. I have no idea what's going on on virtuals, but I got $95 in in CBBTC deposits.
[0:22:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I
[0:22:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: have to, like, quick, quick, quick. Because you know what they do? They take the base ETH out of the wallet so that when you go and try and send it out, you have no base ETH, and you're like, ah. And then you're stuck, and you're like, shit. What do I do?
[0:22:25] Voice H: What do I do?
[0:22:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: And it's like, by the time you send the base ETH, they're like, beat you to it, bitch. You know? They... I got... They got me for $550.
[0:22:32] xFactor @xFactorPOL: They probably they probably have that on a script. They've, like
[0:22:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, a 100%.
[0:22:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Automatically running throughout the day. Oh, that's insane work. They got their base heat. That's smart.
[0:22:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: But damn. A 100%, bro. Like, it drives me nuts. But, like, that's the thing. When you have a compromise, we need to come up with a solution, by the way, like, I wanna talk about... We're gonna talk about Tater Trader a little bit later and, like, what the, like, the the stuff I wanna highlight. Did y'all know that Tater Trader has, like, a kill switch? Like, a complete, like, freeze account button. Where in crypto does that exist?
[0:23:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Bank Social did it first. Bank Social has that. You can freeze your account. You can lock up your tokens. And and if there's, like, fraudulent activity on on your wallet or your wallet has been hacked, they're limited as to how much they can take because of this... The kill switch.
[0:23:17] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. I'll tell you where else that happens. In a Merrill Lynch for... In a Merrill Lynch Roth IRA, your money doesn't do anything.
[0:23:23] Voice L: It just sits there and,
[0:23:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: you know, gets
[0:23:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: gets no appreciation. How is how is Nat gonna step on my tater promo? Would literally be like, bang. No. We are... Nat... Me and Nat are gonna, like... Guys, karate... Next karate combat is Dave versus Nat Nat in Singapore. Okay?
[0:23:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Taylor trader is amazing. Anybody who's a trader, Taylor trader got you covered. They love it.
[0:23:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You betcha. And, hey. Listen. Ninja's one of yours. Alright? So you better relax. Alright? I'm a tell... I'm a... I'm telling. I am telling. Anyways, Kanter's already posting stuff to the top. Koma, real quick. What's up before we go to Kanter and say hi to Cornucopia? What's good?
[0:24:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: Not much, man. Just listening to x factor complain about not making enough money. It just brings a smile to my face. But, yeah, I I told him about Tibber, and he didn't listen. He only put in, like, pennies supposedly and, you know, just hit all time high. This man just don't listen. He doesn't listen to anybody. Right? But, yeah, markets are red. Life is tough. We'll we'll figure it out.
[0:24:26] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And and to to be fair, Como said, hey. Go light on this because I'm I'm not sure about it. And then it's like, oh, I'm a genius. It went up 70%. I told you to drop 50 k. I was like, what are you talking about, bro?
[0:24:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: Even when I give good stuff, he he complains and, you know, if it went down, he would have went after my head. Just can't win with this this man.
[0:24:47] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I mean Absolutely not true. Already told you. I wouldn't I wouldn't have gone after you, but whatever.
[0:24:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love the dissension amongst my my non paid employees. It's so much fun.
[0:24:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, wow. That $50,000...
[0:25:01] Voice L: Let's go ahead
[0:25:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: and figure something out since since
[0:25:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: we we brought it up.
[0:25:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're done
[0:25:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: listening to
[0:25:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: the sound of your own voice, you let me know when I can get through the intros, bro.
[0:25:12] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Alright. I'm ready. Go ahead.
[0:25:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Thank you. Like, say, cornucopia, what's up?
[0:25:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Really, guys? Really? Today's not today.
[0:25:22] Voice K: Yeah. GM. GM. I love that. Love that. Agree agree Soos, Takuma, Evo, Meta Beasts, Factor, and Kanto Codes. As soon as Gekko down the engineer, good piece, and let me... Everyone. Right? GM GMs, everyone. So, yeah, I'm here again, ATC, and GM market or bull market. But I'll keep my thoughts for now because, like, KuCrypto said, bear or bull, people are printing bull. I saw what plasma I did, and I was like, holy smokes. Like, just for just for $10. Right? Yeah. Get it. Thank you. Well, the math is not marketing. Yeah.
[0:26:01] Voice H: Who the fuck is renting? Why can't you add me to this group chats?
[0:26:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes, Sam. Me too, bro.
[0:26:05] Voice H: What the fuck?
[0:26:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where is this plasma shit, bro? Hello? What is going on? $10?
[0:26:11] Voice H: Yeah. $10? You're losing money. That's not right. So, like, add me to the fucking group chat.
[0:26:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Coma, you need to add her to your group chat. So, I don't... Dave, I don't know if you see... If you're looking at the ATC group chat, but Monica posted something in there with regards to Coma. Wanna take a look at it real quick?
[0:26:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Wait a minute. For real? What did Monica post about?
[0:26:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold on. Let me see.
[0:26:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's money money like you say.
[0:26:35] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, man. We've got $50,000 just to throw around anyway.
[0:26:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: 50,000?
[0:26:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. That's more than that. Oh
[0:26:44] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: my god. I'm not referring to that.
[0:26:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm These are these are private chats for a reason, so we could just move on. Right?
[0:26:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. We can't just move on.
[0:26:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Hold on a second. But
[0:26:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: still how much he deposited into the platform or
[0:26:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: how much he paid. Dollars. Whatever.
[0:26:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who did that?
[0:27:01] Voice L: No. That's...
[0:27:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, that's what Koma told x factor, throw 50,000 at Tibber. Who's got $50,000 just to Koma,
[0:27:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: you're depositing $380,000 into platforms?
[0:27:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: What is this? Damn.
[0:27:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: Look at my face. Look at my face on my profile. Does it look like I can deposit that much money?
[0:27:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It doesn't. That's why I'm trying to figure out.
[0:27:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm just
[0:27:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: seeing this for the first time. No. It's not.
[0:27:27] Kkoma @itskkoma: Is that believable? I have no idea. Let's... You know, maybe, maybe not.
[0:27:31] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But the
[0:27:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: real question is how did I find someone that could deposit $400,000? It's a real question.
[0:27:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh, you found somebody. Yeah. Yeah. That... That's... Oh, your referral money.
[0:27:42] Voice L: Oh my god. Yo.
[0:27:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's... I... You you guys Cold blood. Forget that. That's... This is crypto, man. That's not a lot of money, man. Cryptos... Remember, people got into Bitcoin at at a dollar or eat that point zero zero one or point point 1. So that's... But your crypto is pretty crazy. Don't don't fade people with, you know, here. You know? That's why I will never show off your crypto because I'm I'm sure people with 20 followers have hundreds of millions in their wallets, and you never know. So, yeah, don't don't don't pay. People in crypto have a lot of money, man. Seriously.
[0:28:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Did you see this in the chat? Komo referred somebody over that deposited, like, 436,000. He got 53,000 in in in in in the kickback.
[0:28:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Talking about Scrooge McDuck. Holy crap, bro. With receipts
[0:28:28] Voice L: Yo.
[0:28:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's that's that's in in in in in Turtle. Right? Turtle? Right? Yeah. Yeah. You gonna make
[0:28:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I think that's in Tesla.
[0:28:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. You're make a... I'm on turtle too, though, but you're make a lot money, man. Turtle is on the farm. You can make a lot of money. 100%. Yeah. Big big goes to you, bro.
[0:28:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: You... I might change my profile to a turtle at this point because I'm, yeah, ranked number one right now at this at the moment.
[0:28:49] Voice H: But No. So what... Russ is scrooge McDuck chats.
[0:28:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: Is like... Yeah. He he's a he got he got 6 figures on Aster.
[0:28:58] Voice H: Yeah. I don't care about that. Like, I just don't know.
[0:29:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Russ said, where's the scrooge McDuck chat chat at? Can you add me?
[0:29:05] Voice H: Yeah. Like, hello. She's got... I just got a little pity in here....
[0:29:11] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Buy and sell Pokemon. Bro, just lost
[0:29:13] Voice H: freaking fucking Pokemon card,
[0:29:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: bro. Basically...
[0:29:16] Voice H: I feel sorry for me.
[0:29:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, man. Just just get rich rich friends like Coma, and and they'll use the referral code, then... And you're good to go, man. You're good to go. Just get rich friends. Get rich friends. They use the referral code, and you can make 50 k just like that. So they go they go few Coma. Let's go.
[0:29:32] Voice H: Well, that sounds so easy.
[0:29:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: Group chat
[0:29:34] Voice H: right Like, explain to me. Just a referral code, bro. You get 50 k?
[0:29:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Como's DM's are getting blown
[0:29:40] Voice L: up right now with with the... Hey, man. Send me a thousand bucks, please, bro.
[0:29:43] Voice H: Who the fuck the fuck?
[0:29:45] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm getting DM's about Nigerian princess princess and... By by
[0:29:49] xFactor @xFactorPOL: the way, guys, the first 20 people that DM a DM a shirtless pick Tacoma get a thousand dollars just so know. What I'm
[0:29:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: This is asking. I'm giveaway to everyone in this space right now. Just DM them that you you give away 1 k each.
[0:30:00] Voice H: Oh, wait. No. Listen to me. I just lost 3 k on fake Pokemon cards, so I deserve the 1 k giveaway. Okay?
[0:30:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: She does. Come on. I mean, you got 53,000 of those things. Looks like three of them. Know what mean?
[0:30:15] Voice L: People are...
[0:30:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: You have a nice even.
[0:30:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What what... You know? Be nice. Wow. He he signed off. He said, see you guys. I hate you.
[0:30:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. It's just like that. When you make money, you forget who your friends Yeah.
[0:30:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: I think you got... Yeah.
[0:30:32] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No, bro. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's
[0:30:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: all fun and games, so you're making over the money with your friends.
[0:30:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's you do. Like, if you... I remember some pro... Programs I've been on before. They would... If you deposit a couple $100 and you're able to gain a lot of referrals, you could do very, very well, man. If you have that kind of reach and... You could net a lot of money, man, if you know a lot of people and just yeah. Yeah. You do very, well. I miss... And that's why, you know, a lot of KOLs, they make a lot of money, man, from the referrals because they have... You need a couple couple 100 people to deposit money you you... Using your referral code. You do that a couple of times, you make a cool six figures or more, man. So... Yeah. It's it's real.
[0:31:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So
[0:31:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: that... That's from the...
[0:31:12] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's a great flywheel.
[0:31:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's from the the banking system too. That was a while back. That has changed now. But a few years ago, if you referred someone to us and they deposited a 100,000 or more, you would get a nice payout too. And if the... If they deposited a million, you would get even more money back. So I love that crypto is is doing that now because if you are well connected, you can make a lot of money.
[0:31:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. And the and the great the great thing about that is that the flywheel continues because once you show your worth to a couple of projects, you can literally leverage that to another project, then you can negotiate a higher percentage or commission payout as well. So it's pretty sweet.
[0:31:49] Kkoma @itskkoma: If you... X factor, if you saw my turtle score, would you have, you know, given me some type of contracts like, you know, k o l deal, or would would you have just told me to still f off?
[0:31:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Bro. Yeah. I would have still told you to f off. Do What you think this is, bro? I'm a... This is crunchy. So basically, what
[0:32:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: you just said what you just said doesn't make sense.
[0:32:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Alright. I know you're setting me up, but what did I just say?
[0:32:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's essentially saying that you said, guys, you could leverage it, but you're... And you are well connected. And then he was like, hey. What if
[0:32:19] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I came over to you?
[0:32:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then you were like, nah, man. Listen. If you came over to me, we don't... We didn't give... You know?
[0:32:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: We didn't give any KOLs any any KOL deals. So there was no KOL deals to give, but, like, referral campaigns... You know what I'm talking about. This is stupid that I'm explaining to you. But people that are actually doing referral
[0:32:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: campaigns come back.
[0:32:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You know, instead of being 10%, you do 15%. You're tilting me right now, bro. I'm gonna I'm gonna run. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:32:42] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Wait. Sorry. I'm sorry. I Please stay. Please so
[0:32:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: to the top because it's important.
[0:32:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Plea... Please do. Please do. Because people are freaking about the market. Now please please tell us. Please do. Please, please. Let's let... Let's go on the topic, please. Let's go.
[0:33:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Let Rose vent one more time about Pokemon cards and Scrooge McDuck, and then we'll go.
[0:33:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. It...
[0:33:12] Voice H: It's not about that. Like, I hear you guys on stage, like, talking about making big money off a Frollcoat. So where can I buy this course?
[0:33:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Como's actually coming up with one right now.
[0:33:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's kcoma.com. Please, I didn't give you my referral code.
[0:33:29] Voice H: Is this kushwithdoc.com?.
[0:33:34] xFactor @xFactorPOL: But... Yeah. That's fine..
[0:33:36] Voice L: That's great.
[0:33:37] Kkoma @itskkoma: Back on topic. Back on topic.
[0:33:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Okay. We're gonna get focused. Cantor, welcome, and tell us what you shared instantly the second you came into the space. What is going on? Bitcoin's being forked? What the fork?
[0:33:50] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. As soon
[0:33:51] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: as I was joining the space, the gossip came out about this core developer from Bitcoin who... There are some core developers who really don't like ordinals, and they think that ordinals should not exist. And they are the antithesis of what Bitcoin is about, and Bitcoin should just be Bitcoin, and that's all it should ever do. So it felt like ordinals and ruins, etcetera. So, apparently, this this poor developer, Luke, he... And some of his private messages got leaked where he was discussing, basically, making a private fork of Bitcoin that would erase Ordinal's data retroactively. Feasibility wise, there is no way that this could ever happen as you you you won't be able to get all the miners to adopt the hard fork to do something like this. It'd be very, very difficult.
[0:34:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: You
[0:34:44] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: have to go through the BIP process, and if they went through the BIP process, it would similarly never really happened. But it is... I think for the Ordinance community, it's kinda like whatever at this point, but it's interesting to see things like this in the light.
[0:35:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Okay. So, I mean, I can't wait to hear the Leonidas or the Ordinal Space. When that shit goes live, this... They're probably gonna have a field day. Yeah. Come on. You wanna chime in on this?
[0:35:13] Kkoma @itskkoma: I mean, never say never, I guess. I mean, the Bitcoin cash, right, that had some people mining it. Right? So as long as it's profitable and they can convince people that it will be profitable for the miners, then more more people will be willing to do it. It's just probably just needs a lot of traction to your point. But... Yeah.
[0:35:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I guess it's kinda... Yeah. Go ahead, Kentur.
[0:35:38] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: There's more miners that are pro ordinals and ruins and there are miners who are anti ruins and ordinals simply for the fact that miners make money from ordinals because it creates more transactions. So they're not good for the ecosystem.
[0:35:55] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, I I agree with that perspective, but you know what they like more than ordinals and all that stuff? They like making money. So as long as, you know, it it... It's profitable for them to compete less with other miners and could be a bigger fish. I I... You know, it just has to make sense for them, you know, at the end of the day. But, yeah, I don't really know all the exact details, but I I doubt you might Yeah.
[0:36:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't I
[0:36:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: don't think it's going anywhere, man. The... This rooms and and and all the rooms, man, they generate a massive amount of money for the miners, man. So why would why would why would the miners don't want rooms, the ordinals on the on the Bitcoin? It makes no sense. Like, I remember gas fees on on Bitcoin. It was insane how much money we're making. Actually, they... It flipped e, the revenue and and transaction money. I mean, makes no sense. It's not gonna happen. I just... This is just someone just, you know, lashing out. I mean... But... Yeah.
[0:36:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So I'm I'm I'm looking at it now, and I'm trying to get, like, the simplified version. So essentially, report that came out that said this Bitcoin developer, Luke Dasher, discussed a hard fork that would let a trusted committee rewrite parts of the blockchain to remove what he feels is illegal content. Luke came out then denied it, calling the story unfounded lies. The controversy links to the ongoing fight between Bitcoin Core v three zero developers, essentially the ones that are more permissive with on chain data, and essentially Luke's Bitcoin knots, the ones that essentially hate ordinals and ruins. It says if real, such a fork would clash with Bitcoin's core principle of immutability and censorship resistance since a committee could decide what stays or gets deleted. Bottom line, no formal proposal exists. This is a narrative battle over how Bitcoin should handle data, not an imminent hard fork. So kind of a nothing burger, I think, at this point. Just chatter for now. But who knows? Sometimes this stuff actually does get louder and louder and louder and louder. Where's Landy at, actually? He's noticeably gone. Do think he was probably fighting with people all morning because of this?
[0:38:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. He he did put in a group chat that he was going to be a little late because he had to do some IRL stuff.
[0:38:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Cool. Gotcha. Copy. Copy. Copy. Okay. Cool. Alright. What else is cooking? Oh, I could tell you on my... Well, let let... Let's go to the news before I kinda go down the the craziness that was Aligners today, and us testing out the DAP. But, Nat, what else we got cooking? Talk to me.
[0:38:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I'm sorry. I I kinda wanted to touch on, you know, how lately there has been a ramp up on, digital asset treasuries within stock market side. And I was on the space earlier today, and we were talking about pros and cons with regards to this. Right? And one of the cons that I mentioned is with, the volatility in crypto. And today, we saw that across the board. Like, we had MSCR and other stocks that have... That are part of DATs. Those took a massive, massive hit today, especially with Bitcoin at $10.09 k here. So that that that was very interesting to see how they play out because there's two sides to every to every story. Right? And during our session earlier today, this morning, actually, I kinda just wanted to let... To just, like, set the record straight. Right? While we do want to diversify, especially if you're in a stock market, right, you want you want to diversify and... Because crypto, you can be successful in crypto as well. But at some point, we do have to, how do I say, find a way to mitigate our losses, especially when it comes to the volatility. Right? So things like knowing when to hedge, knowing how to set a stop loss, and knowing when to take profit is very, very important because people around tripping their bags. Right? We... Last week, we saw this massive pumps with companies that were adding Solana, Bitcoin, ETH, all of that. And today, they have... They are on a massive, massive downtrend, and people are crying and screaming all over my timeline. And this was part of the discussion that we had about what... There's pros and cons to everything. We kinda just have to be careful, especially with the stuff that we promote and things that we say because people should know about these these two sides and how to protect themselves. And I just wanted to put that out there because I saw crypto Twitter, they're losing their minds, especially on the stock market side. Right? Because they had this notion that, hey. If I have exposure and I don't directly have the asset, then my... I will be mitigating my risk, but it's not exactly... It... That's not exactly the case. Right? We saw MSCI had a massive down wick and so did other stocks that were exposed to Solana.
[0:40:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. But but... No. No. It's the the... Mean, I'm sorry. Sorry. The MSCI. Right? Those people that bought it recently are the most crying. Right? The guys that got in from a from a year ago, they they do... They're good to go. Right? Am I correct? Right?
[0:40:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. And, well, because a lot a lot of them, they... Because of the popularity around MSCR and what the CEO was trying to do, a lot of them doubled down and... On on their position. Right? So even if they got in a year ago, but they doubled down or they averaged up, they're sitting at a massive block. So they would... I don't wanna call anybody out. Right? But there are a lot of large players that are really upset and, like, calling and and... Like, it's all over my timeline that I'm having a great day because they actually had... That they invested more than what they should have. But
[0:41:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[0:41:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: But Dave, Mike?
[0:41:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. But but... And then I think
[0:41:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: what do
[0:41:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: you what do you think... Like, for someone like that now, right, you think the best strategy for them is to average down some more and be patient. Right? That that that would be good advice for them?
[0:41:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. But also hedge. Right? Because the thing is with... Especially Bitcoin, Bitcoin is susceptible to the massive downside. Right? We've seen this... These massive wild swings. And in order to protect your portfolio, whether you're on the stock market side or on the crypto side, there's nothing wrong with taking profit, getting out of the market, or learning how to hedge. And I feel like that's... I I I feel like hedging, it has, like, a negative tone, and a lot of people don't do it. But it's literally the best way to protect your your portfolio, period. Right? Because I feel so so bad for these people. I'm scrolling through my my timeline, I'm seeing people post these massive losses, when they're investing into, like, MSCR and comp... A company that recently just added Solana. It's ugly out there, guys, and we kinda have to be careful and use the tools that are available to help us.
[0:42:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a good point. Yeah. Like, I don't think anybody in crypto hedges if I'm being honest, Matt. Like like, for real. Nobody hedges. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm being straight.
[0:42:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: I hedge, bro. I I... I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm very... I went through four years ago cycle. I I I... Yo. I said never ever again. What I... Because what... The the mistake I made was I had 100% of my money in in in alts, and I had zero USDC stables. And this time, I said never ever again would I ever make that mistake again. So every time I make money in crypto, that money goes into Bitcoin, ETH, or USDC. I don't hold alts at all anymore like I used to. And I think that's that's the heads that we talked about a long time ago with that now. I almost hear it from
[0:43:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: the head.
[0:43:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Always always having USDC on the side just in case. That's
[0:43:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: why, like
[0:43:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: I said, I mean, you know, know, as... I'm I'm never worried with with the price going down because I'm I'm good to go. Mean, I'm I'm active in crypto anyway trying to get more liquidity. Right? And I'm I'm also sitting on a good amount of USTC. So either way, I'm good. And that's what you have to do. Never ever ever ever ever do what I did four years ago, which was have 100% money in in crypto and no USDC, no stablecoins. That makes no sense.
[0:43:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: When you say hedge, and maybe... I didn't realize that's what you meant by hedge. It's just having stables ready. I thought you meant, like, the flip side of, like, a trade and, like, taking on other trades. Right? Like, to essentially hedge like a position. Maybe I was missed. Yeah. I guess, maybe I'm not the best with portfolio management, I guess, the end of day, but, yeah, I... I'll second that for sure. And that, do you wanna explain maybe a little bit further Yeah.
[0:44:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: In Kul, comma?
[0:44:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yep. So there... There's different ways you can hedge. Right? Like Kool said, you can have a certain allocation set in spot in your bags, but then you can also have a nice bag of USDC or USDT that you're ready to deploy. Right? You're protected there. The other way you can hedge is, for example, if you're in equities, maybe by commodities because if one goes down, the other one goes up. So it's not necessarily the opposite of one asset. You can you can combine it with different assets. Right? Like, this year has been a year of gold. So if you had at the beginning of the year and you bought gold... If if you bought gold and then you bought a a spy position, whenever spy went down, gold covered you. Or when gold went down, spy covered you. Right? So there's different ways that you can do it, especially if... Even in in in the in the crypto markets, right, you can hedge now with with perp trading and these perp decks that you can hedge there. You can do... Like, from one wallet, you can do a long, and from the second wallet, you can do a short from a a different asset. Doesn't have to be the same asset. So there's literally different ways that you can do it. But the reason why I brought this up, guys, is because the... We're in for some massive volatility. Right? And if we look at Bitcoin, Bitcoin on the weekly, it's not looking the prettiest. Right? And I think we'll be doing our audience of this justice if we don't let them know both sides of the coins or both sides of the trades.
[0:45:33] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And one one thing to add to, the bigger your bags are, the more important it is to protect them. Yeah. Too. Like, I think when when you have smaller bags, then you have... You know, you're you're a little bit more risk tolerant because, obviously, you wanna increase your capital. Right? But anytime that you have a win, and it's something that I did because, like, I I I blew money, like, with the best of them in crypto. I'm telling you, man. And you learn from your mistakes, and that's all you could do, god willing. But, anyways, you literally roll your wins, and you say, hey. 50% of my bags from these wins are gonna go into USDC, stables, park them, and just... Or or BTC, Ethereum, in my case, is is my my preference. And you just let that sit. And whatever happens, you know that you're comfortable with that decision. And then the rest of my bags, still... Because I'm I'm not a I'm not a huge account by any means. The rest of my bags, still mess around with them in prediction markets, small caps, all that good stuff, and it's kinda like play money, right, at the end of the day. But... Yeah. Yeah. Good takes, Matt.
[0:46:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why did... What why did I hear why did I hear this when when Cole was talking just now?
[0:46:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Come by here. Okay? Okay. Harish. You
[0:46:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: gonna call me? You go you go you go hedge? I'm a hedge. Alright. We don't ever. Ever. Get caught without stables. Again.
[0:46:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's so funny. That reminds me of the movie Rush Hour when he's like, $50,000,000. Sweetie, you're kidding me. Chelsea Clinton. That's
[0:47:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chris Tucker for you.
[0:47:05] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's Chris
[0:47:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tucker for you. Hey, Landy. We were worried about you, bro. We were thinking... Man, don't tell me Landy's not in
[0:47:11] Kkoma @itskkoma: the trap.
[0:47:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I'm for his Landy.
[0:47:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Think Koma wanted to say something, though. I think he caught... We accidentally cut him off.
[0:47:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, my fault. Yeah. It's probably something dumb, but go ahead, Koma. Chill out. X
[0:47:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Factor. You are too much today.
[0:47:23] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I'm not gonna say anything anymore.
[0:47:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Come on.
[0:47:38] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh, no. I was gonna say... Yeah. I mean, I think hedging works both ways. Right? Because I'm not gonna lie too. I had a ton of stables as you could probably see in my Turtle account that, you know, while ETH and Bitcoin were going up, like, of course, my side of me was like, oh, I need to get in now and get ride the wave. But at the same time, like, you you know, you can't time everything correctly. Right? So even on these, like, downturns, I'm just kinda like, okay. Cool. Now I have stables. Like, if I really wanna, like, take some money out and buy some of these assets, it's a great time. But, you know, I would say, like, everyone just, like, zoom out a little bit because, yeah, it looks like the the whole world is, like, collapsing or whatever. But, you know, ETH is still at, like, 3,900. Like, I could swear, like, a few months ago, it was at, like, $161,700 dollars. So, like, chill. We're all... We're we're fine. You know? It's it's it's a big dip from, a daily and... Daily perspective, I guess, or, like, seven day too. But overall, like, we're doing pretty great. Yeah. Overall, the trajectory one year. It's, 50% up. Yeah.
[0:48:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Overall, the trajectory is... But I do think because the weekly look looks the way it is, we should try...
[0:48:45] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: We
[0:48:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: we should find a way to protect ourselves. Even if nothing happens, it's better to be safe than sorry.
[0:48:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. But, like, I guess, what are you... How are you handling it from a crypto's perspective? Because I think what you were talking about was very, like, traditional web two style. Like, if you have gold, then do this. Like like, in crypto, are you just playing the, like like, the perps game, or are you Yep. How are you hedging?
[0:49:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I'm... The the way the way I'm hedging right now via for crypto is via perps. Yep. So I I had a long... A short position, that printed nicely that we took profit on. And then, right now, what I'm doing, I'm just waiting to see where we settle so that we can go long and then, short on on on on another per per deck. So right now, I'm using Hyperliquid and Osteum. So on hype... On Hyperliquid, I'm... I have... I still have some of my short position, and on Osteum, I'm looking to enter the long And then once I... Once the... This is because the market has been sold a little. Right? Once the dust settles and and and BTC finds a bottom and all systems are gold, then, obviously, we can trade a little more relaxed. But as of right now, I I I I I kinda just let... Wanted to let the audience know where we're at and what what we were looking at being that the weekly is the way it is. But if nothing happens and all systems are going, then obviously business as usual. But as of right now, I don't I don't think hedging is a bad thing to look into.
[0:50:10] Kkoma @itskkoma: I will say one more thing, Nat Nat, is, you know, hyperliquid is good, but it's probably, like, heavily farmed. So if you need any other perps and need a referral, please, you know, I'll send you that DM.
[0:50:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's plenty of other perps out there.
[0:50:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: Let me
[0:50:24] Voice L: just tell you.
[0:50:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. No.
[0:50:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: My app, know, pair... Paradex and, you know, extend it. So I got you. Please, you know, I'll I'll send I'll send you that You
[0:50:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: can't knock
[0:50:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: the hustle. You know what, Coma? Send me the referral link. Just don't let Dave know because he gets in his field.
[0:50:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: I mean, you're fine.
[0:50:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: We'll keep that between us. Yeah.
[0:50:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nick, hey. Coma, don't worry about it.
[0:50:44] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And if you do wanna be part of if you do wanna be part of Koma's referral network, just remember the referral code is X factor.
[0:50:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You'd like you guys. You know what Koma's gonna do? Koma's literally gonna send you the referral link, and then you know what? Nat Nat's gonna do. She's gonna post it all over time. I'd be like, oh, look at my mind share. Look at me. Wolf Bitcoin.
[0:51:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I have some referral codes too, though. So I forgot. I got a couple. Don't forget about me, man. Alright?
[0:51:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: What kind of... Hey. Listen, everybody. Don't forget who shows up every day, alright, has to struggle to find the Wi Fi. Bro, bro, bro.
[0:51:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: You you are top 26 on on on alliance, bro. Come on, man. You... You've already made it. You've already made it, bro. Come on, man.
[0:51:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: You... Hey. By the way, you slipping, by the way. Yeah. I know you don't see the leaderboard, but you are... You slipped 20 spots from yesterday to today.
[0:51:31] Voice L: I find that
[0:51:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm in the number.
[0:51:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Damn. Don't hold him out like that. They've got the.
[0:51:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Chill out. I'm just telling my boy because he can't see. The the beauty board is private. Only the 26 can see.
[0:51:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. Wait. He's I just opened a line... On a line.
[0:51:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is that what you said? Yeah. You're slipping down the
[0:51:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: the right He knows, man. I can't see. He's like, okay. Okay. I'm a get I'm a get on today. Don't worry. I'm I'm making my tea tonight for sure.
[0:51:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. Your boys, the guy... Your boys on the inside, bro.
[0:51:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: You know what I'm let me know, bro. I I need the alpha, bro. Let me know, man. Come on, man.
[0:52:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got you. I got you. I got you. Yeah. And if anybody else wants to know, it's not free, and it's $50 for a look inside the Wallchain Leaderboard. But let me say what's up to Landy. Landy, welcome, Puppet. We heard the Bitcoin fork news, and we were like, oh my god. Landy's fighting somebody somewhere in a space, and he's a poor little puppet. We don't know what the hell is going on. We got word for you, bro. Thank god you're okay. What's up?
[0:52:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I was just picking up the kids. I I I had to go do that for the wife today. So, look, I'm doing really well. Like, I can't complain. Congratulations, Landy.
[0:52:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yes. It it it it
[0:52:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: it it is crazy.
[0:52:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's it's... We we we just have Storm Storm come to space, and they lost five kids today. Right? Landy comes in. Yo.
[0:52:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no.
[0:52:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm doing so well. I'm doing so well. Come
[0:52:46] Voice L: on, bro. Come on, bro.
[0:52:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry.
[0:52:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Last one here. The package
[0:52:52] Voice K: is bleeding.
[0:52:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: My my my when you go freaking out, Lasagna comes in, bro. I'm I'm I'm a king, bro. I'm I'm doing so well. Come on, bro.
[0:53:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's a that's a... That's You got you
[0:53:03] Voice L: got here a little late.
[0:53:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: That short position, frankly.
[0:53:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You got here a little late today on this space. We're justifying how good you're doing based on the coma factor and the coma scale.
[0:53:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my bad. Well, I mean, I I told y'all when I was short off the actual all time high area around a 123. Right? Like... And then I've been refilling that short, and and it's averaged. Now I'm right around a 120 on that one. I took another short. I was very, very specific here in many other spaces in my videos. If we did not break $118,000, I was bearish. Right? And we tested it. We actually tested a 118 and rejected. So I took a big old short position there again, and I'm happy. I'm happy. And, you know, traditional markets are also correcting, so I've been... I mentioned I was I was filling some puts, bracketing and filling and bracketing and filling, and now we're getting a correction there. But let's have a little bit of perspective here for just a moment. You know, there's a lot of fear in the markets right now, and, traditional markets are coming off of their all time high. They're not in a bear market. Bitcoin is coming off of an all time high. It is not in a bear market. We are correcting. Now is the structure looking pretty dicey for Bitcoin and Ethereum
[0:54:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: right now?
[0:54:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. It is.
[0:54:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Yes. It is. Very much so. In fact, I meant... I don't know if I meant... I did mention it here. The five day closed, earlier this week. Right? And what what happened on the five day chart? The five day chart has a lower low close and a lower high trend reversal setup. The weekly has a higher high complex close swing down trend, but is looking like it's going to do a trend break. Right? Like, it... It's looking as though it wants to go for a trend break with a lower high in place on the weekly. But what does that mean in the grand scheme of things? If you zoom out to the monthly time frame, it's still an uptrend. Right? This would just be another high on the monthly time frame, and it would be a trend reversal set up on the weekly. Now could that be indicative of, oh my god. Is this the top and we all pack it up for the bear market? Not necessarily. We have to see confirmation. And if anything, it's looking like it wants to hang out even if it starts to pull back and correct in a wider time frame like the weekly. The five day gave us this indication already with the downtrend break... Or with the uptrend break into a a trend break and now a reversal setup, but we're also moving off of an all time high. These things typically take time unless there is a shock to the system. And when you're talking about hedges, well, I don't really... I don't sell Bitcoin. I mean, well, I do on the mining side of things, but that's that's not what I do for my personal holdings. That's business. And in this case, I don't sell Bitcoin. I will lean against it, and then I'll go and I'll trade with stables, and I'll do
[0:56:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: other the perp decks trading too. Right? Because you hedge your
[0:56:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: spot with a short position. I hedge. Exactly. So... And and I don't take... By the way, I don't go and borrow against my Bitcoin on any kind of lending protocols unless it's... Unless there's, like... I feel like there's a major low coming in. So I'm not ready to do any of that yet. But, you know, I've got plenty of liquid stables that I'm using to hedge with, and I'm doing that via perp decks and via centralized exchanges on the short side of the trade because I don't sell Bitcoin. I don't. Like, that is my thing. I've... I learned a long time ago, boy, oh, boy, if you sell these Bitcoin, you might not get them back because, you know, you blink and then all of a sudden price has taken off again. You take a vacation, and then all of a sudden everyone decides to bid the ever loving hell out of a low that that misses your damn fills, and then you have to freaking go back and overtrade, and then you make mistakes and do all kinds of stupid shit. So... Look. The... This market is, it's it's fine right now. I think that a lot of the problem in this is that there is that that liquidity cycle and Bitcoin timing cycle clock in everyone's head right now. And the alarm bells are going off, and the confluences are lining up with q four to q one for a macro top. But we are not seeing... We're we're seeing, we're not seeing the same things that we've seen in prior
[0:57:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: cycles
[0:57:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: All
[0:57:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: the way in through this cycle.... Say that. Right? And and the the reason why... I'm sorry to cut you off, Landy. But the the the reason why we we... I mentioned this topic too is because of the fear. Right? Because, obviously, the weekly looks the the way it is, but it's also sitting on that mass... On that major support. Right? So we can might as well continue bounce and revisit one eighteen and one twenty, whatever it is. Right? But at the at the same time, because you and I hedge and we protect ourselves if... For whatever may come, I feel like it was necessary to share this. Right? Obviously, on the monthly, we are definitely still intact.
[0:58:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And the the biggest thing is I I think that a lot of hand wringing, just like last cycle... And here, last cycle, everyone was early, and I got into a lot of arguments with the... It's different this time. You know when it actually became different? It became different when we reclaimed the prior cycle highs. Right? So when we went down into the bear market and we reclaimed the 2017 highs, that was different. When we made a new all time high prior to halving, that was different. When we got spot ETF approvals and we have traditional market players here, that is different. When we have major con... Major, nation states and and, corporations and states and and high net worth individuals that are now interested in in hoovering up Bitcoin, that is different. But this is where you really have to get into the mindset because this is why people are so screwed up right now is there's Bitcoin and then there's everything else, and that is true. And you're seeing that born out in the altcoin market without a true alt season yet, and that is really getting to people. And that's something that I I think what you gotta look at is we have traditional market players here. Alright? They have many tools at their disposal to keep price where they would like it. Right? And they they can do this via the spot ETFs on Bitcoin and Ethereum, and now that's gonna be extended to many others. So we're more tied to the traditional markets than ever before ever before. They're not even close last cycle. In fact, that's why we had so much crime last cycle with the majors. Now the crime has moved on chain to places like Solana and so on and so forth. Right? But this is where, you know, the big dogs are here, and they got a lot of capital. If you don't think that they're gonna bid Lowe's when they come in, well, then you're crazy because they want this asset. They're not talking about Bitcoin being a hedge against inflation. Bitcoin is is sound money. Bitcoin is like a store of value. Like, go... You don't get these types of things being said by the biggest asset under managers in the world. You don't get silent accumulation after FUDing. Right? You don't get this kind of stuff. And this is money that we've never seen before. And you have to understand that even when it comes to a nation state like The United States, they have to be careful. That's why just, you know, ten ten, fourteen days ago, I think it was, like, ten days ago now, the Bitcoin Act meeting that I referenced yesterday, why was that so important? Why is it important that they changed it so they didn't have a cadence for buying? Because you're gonna get front run. You have to be careful. You can't run asset prices up. One, that's irresponsibly to be sued. And the other thing is that if you're gonna run asset prices up in an unnatural manner, you don't want people to know exactly what it is that you're gonna buy because then you're just gonna get front run, and you're gonna be used as the exit liquidity left holding the bag while everybody else takes profits. Right? So there's strategy that's going into this. And one of the major things that I think needs to be kind of pointed out is that we are in a maturing market that is moving forward. And I say this a lot, and I know that I'm I'm I'm a a broken record in this regard, but we're not moving backwards in this industry. It is going to continue to grow in terms of its total market cap, but there's a lot of shit to flush down the toilet still. And we have not seen any of that yet. So when it does get volatile, just understand opportunity. And if you don't know how to hedge, learn how to hedge. You know the easiest hedge is take profits when you're up and put it in stables and sit on your hands and wait. That is the easiest hedge. If you wanna get more complex with it, then you can go in and you can take shorts, and you can build out short positions. You can go and start yield farming. You can do all kinds of different things to hedge your portfolio against the the downside volatility, and then also have dry powder to pick up those lows and buy your way back in when you feel comfortable. And I think to kinda put a point on this, what is really eating everyone right now is that lack of a true alt season. They saw, oh my god. Memes took off, Meme Coin Super Cycle, sped to the upside, went immediately into a bear market. So, obviously, alt season's coming next. Right? Oh, it's it's AI season now. Okay. AI season. Now it's Infofy season. Now it's this season. It's that... But no alt season. It is really getting to people. They're getting to... It's... And Dave...
[1:03:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dave Dave Dave Dave.
[1:03:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's all Dave is.
[1:03:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's cursing me right now. But when it does...
[1:03:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Look. I'm minding my business over here. Leave me alone. Okay? Leave me alone. Go go go to somebody else.
[1:03:22] Voice L: He's got a box of clean neck and shit. He's like, oh. Just kidding. I'm flying
[1:03:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: over my belly bag, man. But, yeah, I still buy more.
[1:03:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: What do want me
[1:03:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: to tell you?
[1:03:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know. I keep buying more too. I mean, it's it's actually... It's a sickness. And I'm okay with being sick in the head in that way because if you just get really good at identifying opportunity, even when the market is headed down, like, I I was talking to Nat earlier about my trade on on Intel. I've had leaps since last year. And then, the prior week, I I took weekly options, and then I took another weekly options that open on Monday. And I'm up massively even though the market's down. The traditional markets are correcting hard. Right? So same thing's happening with Bitcoin and everything else. It will let up, and we will get green days. But please understand what the trend is. Just because we get a couple of green days does not mean, hey. It's all good, and we can relax, and we can just screw around and not look at our portfolios and not see what's going on and take hedges. You actually have to... Right around these time periods where we have a monthly close and a quarterly close. We just got done with a quad witching with all the options expirations, and we're going into the fourth quarter. When it does go back up, understand that we're in a downtrend, and at some point, it has to create an uptrend. Uptrend. So that means it's gotta go up and then come back down again, and then you can evaluate. So you have time, and it will go back up again. It's not all down from here. Watch it just drop through all the supports and just rip everything apart. That'd be hilarious. But point being that it will go up again. And when it does, then you can evaluate when there's a potential trend shift. And if you want to ask people like Nat, myself, x factor, and other traders who do this on a daily basis, you know, ask us or look at some of the content that we put out. Like, I put out a video Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and I know that half of this room or nearly none of the room watches any of it. But if you did, you probably would have, hey. One eighteen, it didn't pass. I'm gonna expect some downside. Maybe I should get some stables ready. Right? Even if you didn't necessarily need it, you know, or or, you know, don't know how to do it, then ask those questions. Request up. Like, do all that stuff. Double down on your Infofy. Get those airdrops. Do all the fun stuff. Right? Occupy your time during these time periods because builders are gonna keep building.
[1:06:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Great stuff, Landy. Great stuff. I feel like we're in tune. We're in line with this. One thing I wanna do, Dave, if it's okay with you, because of the the weekly structure on Bitcoin and the, we don't know which way it's going to go. I think, Landy, if you're down on Monday, we can revisit how the weekly ended, how the weekly closed, and what and what we can do from there. Right?
[1:06:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because For
[1:06:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: sure. Because that way, the audience is aware of what's going on. Because we've been kinda telling them about, the liquidity areas and the support since, 01/18. And I feel like we're we're getting to a critical level if no bounce, I and I think it would be great for the audience to know and so that they can be prepared on what to do.
[1:06:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: And and understand that that we're at at this juncture because we are moving into q four that there is a lot of preparation in q four for q one of next year. And here's one big, big factor. GDP numbers came out. It was a beat on expectations, point 5% higher than was expected. Now that could change in the different forecasts that are coming up, like the preliminaries that come out next month for for q three. But in q two, we saw growth. In q one, we saw a shrink. And, obviously, that was because of all of the front running for tariffs by over importing. Right? And now we've we've rebounded. It's the biggest rebound in GDP that we've had in a very long time. And now it's about the market wants to see it settle into a groove of a... Of expanding GDP. Right? There's a lot of nuance there, but there's no crack showing in the traditional markets. And, I mean, there's fear, and that is showing, and there's little bits of economic data. But I've never seen a recession with growing GDP even with these kind of outlier factors. So, you know, that is what's on top of... What the top of everyone's mind is all recession fears. And I'll tell you that I ain't seeing it. Is there a lot of nuance there? Could I get into arguments with other analysts and macroeconomics experts? Absolutely. But I go with what the chart is showing us and what the actual economic data is showing us. And I do understand the underlying nuances behind it, and I ain't seeing no recession there, especially with spending the way it is. If it all collapses fourth quarter, then we can call it, pack it up, and the Fed's gonna come in and save us anyway. So as soon as the Fed comes out, great points earlier in in a different space. If the Fed comes out and says they're gonna they're gonna buoy the market, you better start buying. That's all. So either way, the Fed will come in and save us. So don't worry. Be happy. Get a short position and print like mad because, boy, oh, boy, Solana, falling. Keep falling. It hit one of my targets at 200, but I'd like it to fall further.
[1:09:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mandy, I appreciate you saying in another space. I'm not saying in your workspace. In your workspace.
[1:09:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: Definitely in the workspace. So I'm just gonna put it
[1:09:07] Voice L: out here. Chill
[1:09:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: out. Chill out.
[1:09:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay? Here's what we're gonna talk about. And if you bank social me on this comment, I swear to god, that's it. Like, that I'm drawing the line. You're going on probation. Cool. I'm gonna need you to sign off. If she bank socials me on this comment... Guys, Circle is exploring reversible USDC transactions.
[1:09:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm gonna
[1:09:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: swallow it. Give me that, you eleven twenty. It. She's gonna she's gonna kill me. Circle is exploring reversible USDC transactions to recover funds lost in hacks and fraud per the Financial Times. I fucking hate this. I understand maybe it might be a necessary evil. What do we think? Cool. Like, do you like this? I don't like this, bro. I don't like this one bit reversible transactions. No. I'm just going to you first. Please say something cool. This way, Nat doesn't say bank social. Please, bro.
[1:10:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I've got a comparison.
[1:10:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. That's that's a that's a great take, Cole. But, honestly, the the... So take... The point of this is to is to get institutions behind behind this this vehicle. Right? We can all agree that that's why, like, you know, you have ACHs, wires, all sorts of stuff that could be reversed. This is just crypto trying to go mainstream and and provide that that vehicle. I don't like it because it kinda eliminates the whole purpose of conversation and why it was created at the at the same point. But I understand a little bit I
[1:10:40] Voice L: don't know.
[1:10:40] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm I'm hesitant. I'm hesitant.
[1:10:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on. Kill you. Yeah. So kill
[1:10:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: you all on this.
[1:10:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: But hold on. I feel that's creepy as fuck, by the way. But here's my here's my question. Right? Like, why not just set up, like, a, like, a recover... Like, an insurance fund on the side, like, if there's chargebacks or whatever? Like, there's protocols that deal with this.
[1:10:57] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And there's... There there... There's... Aren't there, like, virtualization and stuff that were set up to kinda, like, try to tackle that? Yeah.
[1:11:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like... But, like, to to say, like, we're reverse... Like, to put this out and say reversible transactions, I don't know. I just I don't like it.
[1:11:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: I love that. I think that is great, especially because of the... They've they've... It's all of it's all of... It's all of, you know, my familia, Mirmano, everything, and... But I think this is needed because of all the hacks, and people have lost some serious money, Dave. Imagine these transactions were reversible. Right? It'll it'll do some good, and I think crypto needs this.
[1:11:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Now now imagine for a second. Here's me playing devil's advocate. Imagine for a second that you do a little tax evasion, tax fraud, and the government can reverse your transactions, and all of a sudden your bags go right into the IRS. That's where the bad aspect of stuff like this.
[1:11:51] Voice H: Hated it. Alright.
[1:11:53] Bread @_ToastMalone: Hang on. Hang on. I gotta I gotta clarify some things here. Like, GM a. It would be... GM? Like, there is no such thing as a reversible blockchain transaction that does not exist. If anything, it's a refundable transaction, in which case, like, okay. So you set up a pool of of USDC funds and, like, if somebody has a problem, you just pull from the fund and and reverse the charge if it's...
[1:12:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, it's an insurance it's an insurance vehicle.
[1:12:18] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, exactly. It's insurance. Shit. There's, like, there's no revert... You can't reverse... But you can't reverse a blockchain. Okay.
[1:12:26] xFactor @xFactorPOL: We're back. We're back. Anytime. I can get on board with something like this.
[1:12:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I'm gonna black pill the shit out of you guys.
[1:12:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Hold on. Coma. Coma. Coma. Coma.
[1:12:34] Bread @_ToastMalone: Can you reverse some Bitcoin? Does it take twenty minutes to go back?
[1:12:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Order order order. Ordinal order order. You psycho. Coma, go for it, bro.
[1:12:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You'd be surprised it's actually quicker.
[1:12:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: For fuck's sake, are you Coma?
[1:12:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: Nine minutes.
[1:12:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I mean, no. I hate this. Let's move on. But... Yeah. Anyways...
[1:12:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I literally yell at Metabees and you say, let's move on. You better make a fucking point right now. I swear to God. You better make
[1:13:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: a point. My point was really stupid. Was gonna say we should fork every time you need to refund something. But... Yeah. But anyways
[1:13:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Thanks. In fact, that's funny.
[1:13:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what I that's what I literally yell at one of my favorite people in the fucking world for is is for you to say, we should fork something every time somebody wants to reverse. Metabees, I'm sorry. I... I'm sorry that I put this ridiculous looking mask wearing fools priorities in front of yours because yours was much more relevant than anything that Coma had to say. And plus he has a ridiculous amount of money now. So I don't even know what... Why the hell is he not paying us is what the hell I wanna know with the amount of referrals and... Between referrals and paying social and all this shit. Everybody's making money up here.
[1:13:41] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Philanthropists with that kind of money are kind of weird to begin with.
[1:13:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Like, what the hell? Pay me... They're like, yo. I'm gonna start charging you guys to pay you.
[1:13:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Pay now.
[1:13:52] Voice L: You can pay me?
[1:13:53] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Dave, Dave, this is really simple, man. All all things all things crypto sponsored by its Coma. That's it.
[1:13:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. If you had to see a check, I'll put Coma's name in the title. It's fucking 7,000. You know,
[1:14:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: it's like, it's all
[1:14:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: about Chris and your kid.
[1:14:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do I send the invoice to Coma for all the f words in the space today?
[1:14:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Yes.
[1:14:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. Coma, check your inbox in a few.
[1:14:13] Kkoma @itskkoma: This is ATC to the wolf space. I'm I'm moving on.
[1:14:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, this is ATC doing business as it's k Comma Inc, aka turtle dot x y z. That's who we are. Okay? So make all invoices, like, addressable to that. Yes, Puppet. Okay.
[1:14:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Now this is where... Yes. Of course, USDC is on many different blockchains, and blockchain transactions are not reversible. But the company themselves can censor specific wallets and work with blockchains to censor in a, quote, unquote, soft way by blocking off the exits and and and the different bridges and stuff like that. Right? We've seen plenty of this with hacks. But this is a slippery slope conversation. Alright? Because this can lead to the ultimate goal, which is to guardrail the shit out of any digital currencies, aka like a CBDC except by... Via a private issuer to then, you know, hey. Maybe you said something online that we don't like. And, you know, it was for if you were drained or you were hacked, and it's kinda like insurance. But now it's... You know, we don't we don't really like what you posted. You said that our books aren't in order, so, you know, you're not gonna be able to transact on chain anymore. And we're gonna go through every single one of our partner chains and apply pressure that way in order to keep you off chain, which is nearly impossible. But it it can be very, very, effective to those who don't understand and are newer to crypto. And this is something that is a slippery slope type of conversation because there are ways in which they could, you know, maybe create their own EVM chain that acts as the hub that everything has to transact through for finalization. There's all kinds of different ways in which they could take this. I don't like the conversation being floated. If they wanted to do reversible transactions, you don't call it that. You say, hey. We're gonna have insurance like an FDIC insurance fund, and you go that route. And instead of opening the conversation in such a stupid way in which they have now opened the conversate... It's almost as stupid as Luke Dasher, planning to try to fork the Bitcoin blockchain and gain consensus. It's a stupid endeavor. So these are stupid things being said by stupid people who are actually really brilliant stupid people, but stupid nonetheless in their ideals and goals. And this always tends to come out in times like this when everybody's panicking and everybody's shitting themselves on the timeline about price action. So, you know, this too shall pass.
[1:17:25] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Speaking of stupid and wording things, that XRP article, did anyone else notice it used the word scheme?
[1:17:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do tell.
[1:17:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: With XRP article
[1:17:41] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: and The one you posted in the in the in the, yeah, the back end.
[1:17:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, the the tool Yeah. From Swift.
[1:17:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It says scheme. I'm like... I don't know. Is it just me, or is that not a wrong choice of words?
[1:17:57] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What's the... What does it say in scheme in
[1:17:58] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: the context? I don't know.
[1:18:00] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It doesn't In the con... What's the what's the context of the sentence where it says it?
[1:18:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? Like, what what are they saying?
[1:18:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: It didn't say schema. It just said scheme, and it was preceded by the words Ponzi.
[1:18:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Alright. You have my attention?
[1:18:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I'm sorry. That was all I have.
[1:18:15] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. That's all I have is I just found it very odd choice of words.
[1:18:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Speaking of odd choice of words, guys, I've I've... What... They posted something too. But I posted a link from Zoomer, and the article reads the SEC and FINRA have reached out to over 200 DATs with concerns of insider trading of treasury vehicles preannouncement with a deeper investigation on the cards. Didn't we cover something like this last week when we were when we were talking about how do these individuals know what stock to buy before it takes off? And literally, we said the only way to know would be on the inside.
[1:19:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Tamara, bring criminals back to crypto. It's exactly it. Like, I mean, this is Wall Street. This is the... I mean, it it it... Well, does this surprise anyone?
[1:19:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It was... I was about to say, was like, oh my god. We got crime season in crypto, and now we're porting over to to real world assets, and crime season is getting significantly worse. That's so weird. That's crazy. Ridiculous.
[1:19:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, what... In what world? Like, did we think, like, this was not gonna happen? I think, like, everyone gets kinda caught up. Like, listen. Make no mistake. Like, some of... A lot of us might be pro Trump. Right? His sons are degenerate fucking gamblers. Right? Like, they wanna make a shit ton of money. They are absolutely 100% enriching themselves, and I think rightfully fucking so.
[1:19:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Some might call them risk.
[1:19:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: A little bit of crime sprinkled in on the side.
[1:19:42] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You know what I'm saying? Like, a little
[1:19:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: bit of like, a little sprinkle.
[1:19:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You know? Risk risk takers, Dave, is the word we're using here.
[1:19:48] Voice L: Yeah. Our customers are crazy work.
[1:19:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're just... No. They're just hedging their realistic...
[1:19:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: They... You know, I read I read something long time ago because they live in New York. Right? I read something long time ago that says no one survives New York without a a a legit job with a little scam on the side.
[1:20:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a... Bro. Like, if you're if you're working a regular nine to five, your side hustle, there's a part of it that's illegal. It's like how you have to make ends meet. How do you think I like... When you're growing up in New York, it's a must. It's a it's a right of path.
[1:20:18] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So what are you and Nat up to these days? I'm just I'm just wondering.
[1:20:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, in my defense, I live in the...
[1:20:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: See, I don't live in New York anymore. Maybe you may...
[1:20:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Maybe... Exactly. I live in the DC suburban area.
[1:20:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nat, Dave, you both have market experience as do I, and we all talked. We blabbered and we talked about what was coming up and what we should be getting into. We we absolutely were insider trading on a consistent basis just by being around similar people from different firms. Like, that was just like... It was just... It's doing business. We're we're closing business. Oh, well, you heard about the deal that's gonna happen over here? When's it gonna close? Oh, I don't know. We're looking, like, next week. Alright. Cool. Get me in. What's the ticker gonna be? Right? Like, this is all... Like, this is this is this is just how humans are, and you can't get away from it. In fact, you can't even prosecute half of them unless it's really, really egregious. Like, you can get FINRA to investigate, like, all this stuff, and they have to walk away from 90% of it because all of Wall Street would be locked up.
[1:21:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. If I
[1:21:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: I was just about to say that.
[1:21:28] Voice H: Just shut it down. And woman.
[1:21:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Some some would... It would
[1:21:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: be gone.
[1:21:31] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Some would call it networking, guys.
[1:21:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly.
[1:21:34] Voice L: Yes.
[1:21:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I try and literally convince Brett every day to tell me, like, yo. When is the Coinbase listing, bro? This is my boy. And maybe it was the dev comment I made about, like, Ninja on Reset Sunday. I don't know what it was. But, yeah, he... Like, Brett doesn't give me any insider info. Like, he's, like, real, like, legit and stuff. And I'm just like, he's bullshit....
[1:21:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just talking the other day about all this insider info, and, no. I'm just kidding.
[1:21:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Chill
[1:21:56] Voice L: out. He he didn't tell me anything.
[1:21:58] Bread @_ToastMalone: You just gotta be on the inside, bro. You know?
[1:22:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Or know somebody on the inside, aka one of the 26 aligners. Ladies and gentlemen, let me plug this once again. If you are looking for your ranking, on the private leaderboard, aka... Because it's the same leaderboard as the public, but you have zero access to it, but you still wanna try and earn a piece of the $400,000 that Polygon has given aligners, Ladies and gentlemen, please feel free. Dave dot all things crypto dot eth. $50 gets you a peek through the hole.
[1:22:32] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And and, Dave, I just wanna say congratulations, bro, for being
[1:22:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: in New York City.
[1:22:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I I just wanna say congrats I just wanna say congratulations for being ranked 32 on the leaderboard, Dave. It's pretty impressive. I am
[1:22:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: not ranked 32. I am work... I am ranked number two, my bro. That is number dos in your language.
[1:22:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: Man, here we are talking about bringing the criminals
[1:22:52] Voice L: back to crypto, and they hit you with the... Here's my ETH address.
[1:22:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. One fucking drop, bro. Did you post your address on the timeline? Everybody said it's a lot of... Let's go.
[1:23:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it, bro. If I could just hide the gains in, a potato, like, tater. You know what I'm saying? Like, what the hell? I got a whole plan. This is gonna work, bro. I'm telling you. It's like, hey. Where's the money at? In a potato. They could be like, what? This man is crazy. But this man is clinically insane. He's... Where where's where did he say the money is? He said in a potato, sir. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Wait. Wait. Wanna hold and then evaluate them and see what's up.
[1:23:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. Yo, Dave. For aligners, how many how many pulls you you make per day, bro?
[1:23:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just Oh, cool. I'm ham. I'm doing, like, four to six posts a day. Yeah. Like... And and I mean, heavy. I... Like, we just got done testing the dApp earlier today. I was taking screenshots, videos, screen recordings. Like, cool. When I tell you... I'm not kidding, bro. Like, the numbers they showed me in this Excel spreadsheet and, like, if I'm able to keep the mind share, like, that I have now, which I don't know if I will be, but, apparently, like, all the other big timers in there are just kinda sleeping in a way. Fucking coma dropped, like, 35 or 40 spots just from yesterday to today. You know what I'm saying? So if everyone else is sleeping, cool. I'm trying to stay at the top because, bro, when I say 5 figure payday cool, I'm... I shit you not, bro. Like, I'm not even joking because there's a multiplier on the actual... Like, for the... Because the 26 has to carry, like, some sort of, like, you know, like, what is it? I'm I'm making myself stand out apart from, like, literally everybody because, bro, I... I've never seen money like that. That would be the biggest windfall I've ever seen in crypto. And if I have the opportunity to do that while still networking with all these other heavy hitters, right, that Kom is apparently giving his fucking referral codes to. Look. I'm I'm not I'm not there. So, like, yo, that's what I'm trying to do. But... Yeah. Cool. I'm drinking Kool Aid.
[1:24:40] Kkoma @itskkoma: Two things? Can I say two things?
[1:24:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course.
[1:24:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: Thank you. Thank you. Well, first of all, if I drop 40 spots, that makes no sense because that means I was beating you. I'm, like, 43. And two, if Dave's email is too long, I also have access to the leaderboard. So I will only charge $49.97. You know, that's a sales tax.
[1:24:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I would... Oh my god. What happened to Coma? So,
[1:25:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: Dave, did you give me...
[1:25:05] Kool @koolcryptovc: Coma, I'll gladly pay, man. Whoever gives me the best deal Cool.
[1:25:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Give me
[1:25:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: my EAP address.
[1:25:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Damn, dude.
[1:25:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. It's a bit... Cool. It's bad enough you made me and Landy fight literally Hunger Games style over the last wall chain freaking invite, which, by the way, I'm very appreciative. So I'm not giving you shit about that. But don't step up... Guys, you're supposed to back me up here, especially my cohost. Don't undercover me. $50, Cole.
[1:25:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh my nose, Pete, Cole.
[1:25:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know he does. Coma... Alright. Fine.
[1:25:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I was just a benchwarmer. I was I was the fill in coco for a little while. So... And you know what? I'm gonna undercut Tacoma, and I'll say that I don't have access to this, but you can still send me at least point $999,999.91 BTC. I'll drop the Bitcoin address down below. And I'm gonna spend it all on ordinals because that seems like a good investment right now.
[1:25:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: You get nothing .east. Let's let's bring that meta back.
[1:26:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Anybody wanna buy enchiladasauce.east?
[1:26:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hey. Hey, buddy. Hey, Dave. And you know what, buddy? Honestly, I I hope you get a massive fat paycheck from this, bro. For real. Honestly, bro.
[1:26:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Same. Same. Actually, you're you're motivating me, Dave. So definitely, we'll make more content.
[1:26:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. I'm telling you. Yo, Coma, you... Bro, just sit through the meeting with the guy just so you could see. Bro, I'll send you the spreadsheet, Coma, so you can, like, understand. When you start plugging in the Mindshare numbers, Coma, it's fucking wild, bro. It's absolutely nuts. Like like, how you can do it. Because here's the thing. Right? Like, I pay attention. You guys remember when we had Yuri in here from Wallchain last time? And somebody asked them, like, Yuri, like, what do you... Cool. I think it might have been you or you or Justice, but it was like, what do you recommend that, like, we do, like, in order to be most effective, like, with this algorithm? You know what he said? He said, pick one project and go fucking ham. That's what he said. Pick one project and just absolutely, like, kick that door in and just go nuts. I think a lot of times, everyone tries to kinda, like, position themselves for this and that and this, and they're mentioning, hey, Elsa, and the same thing as they're mentioning Limitless and that, and it's working against them. And I see this a lot. Right? Like... And I'm talking to, like, Yemi and his crew, and they're like, Dave, like, can I do this? Can I do that? And I'm just like, look. Like, pick one. This is coming from the horse's mouth. Yuri, the the creator of this algorithm legitimately told you, you wanna be successful in this game? I gave you... Like, this is the most I can give you as far as this blueprint goes. Do what you will with it. And, bro, like, if I didn't see it with my own eyes and what the spreadsheet showed me and, like, if I didn't act like, bro, when you get a 400... I asked him. I said, bro, like, look, how much money you got? Where'd money come? He said, Polygon 400,000. I said, that's all you need to tell me. And how long is the campaign? He was like, we'll see when we're... If we start gaining real mindshare, maybe thirty days, sixty days. I'm like, bro, two months of work for that amount of money. And I'm not talking 10 k 5 figures, guys. Like, I'm talking, like, up there up there 5 figures, like, if you're able to maintain, like, a really decent mindshare. And look, whatever happens, cool. I have your mindset. Like, you taught me well, bro. Young padawan over here. I'm grateful for whatever I get, but I know that, like, my my my effort is going to dictate what comes out what comes out the other end. And look, nobody's ever gonna question my effort out here. Like, that's that's one thing. So... Yeah. Guys, I'm... There there is real money. Like, cool doesn't sit here and blow fucking smoke and sunshine up everybody's ass. Like, if it's like
[1:28:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: god, Dave. We're at 900 for the space already.
[1:28:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Coma doing business as it's k dot e. Thank you very much. Send it to him. Real quick, Gamer actually put... I mean, other than putting in his his amazing wins in the chat because he doesn't say hi ever. He also put... Blayne, did you see the response from Adam Beck about the... This whole, like, Bitcoin story? What do you make of this, bro?
[1:28:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. We have a little thing, a little tiff going on over in Bitcoin. It's it's it's it's about op returns and spam on the network. And, you know, it's obviously gonna clog all the blocks, but wait a minute. Wait. It's one sat per v byte right now and blocks aren't getting filled? Oh, okay. Yeah. So, look, Luke Luke is is maybe... He's a really smart guy, which is what pisses me off about the guy, is he's really, really smart, but he's really, really boneheaded. And I know that he's got a bunch of enablers around him that are really smart people that are now, I think, just taking up swords just to take up swords, and not really thinking things through. Go ahead and fork it. It's not gonna work. Have fun with that. We've seen every other fork that's come before, and it it will not survive. And it seems it seems as though to defy even what was going on in the network in some cases for knots. I I don't really care. This is gonna pass. We aren't switching over. You know, I've got quite a lot of mining equipment. Let's put it that way. And we're just gonna keep chugging along. We have other things that we are doing to actually supplement income these days anyway, and we should be, instead of fighting with each other about stupid shit, being realistic. And, unfortunately, in that ecosystem right now, you have... Ordinals people, are actually advocating for the death of Ordinals with this, op return stuff in the first place. But the problem is when you have really polarizing figures like Luke, Dasher, and others who are coming out against it, it automatically... You know, everybody feels like they gotta be in a camp to be swords up against it. If we have... If we open up that op return in the way that that, that is being proposed and is likely going to go through, that does mean that you can have off chain images just chilling. And and now that undercuts... Know, some would argue, well, it makes Ordinals more valuable because they're on chain and this and that, but it really undercuts it because you can saturate it. And if that becomes the market, then, you know, you know, doing it that way through these various networks that wanna be able to settle on Bitcoin in that manner. It's it's it's a shortcut to innovation. It's... We wanna hurry up and get there and deploy our our cool Bitcoin stuff that we've been building forever, but we don't actually wanna do it on Bitcoin. So let's, let's let's crack open a door instead of finding innovative ways to do it. And I... So I'm actually against increasing the window size for the op return dataset. But I'm also against forking the freaking network, and I'm for ordinals and and innovation on the network. So I'm one of those people that's like, you know what? You guys go and you knock down drag out because some of you are gonna be gone forever. And then when you're gone forever, we're just gonna continue on anyway, and we will figure it out.
[1:32:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair. Yo. What is going on with can somebody... Because... Okay. I think I figured this out. And maybe you guys can help me understand this whole virtual's ecosystem. Yo. There was $20,000 in volume on Junie today, and Junie at one point was up over 400%. I don't know why, but this is the reason... Like, you know, like, when you launch a coin, you get, like, CBBTC rewards. And all I've been doing is just getting CBBTC rewards for the last, like, two hours. And, like, apparently, somebody's training. Bro, Landy, don't if you still hold your Junie, but I I obviously got... Oh, I took a big hit on this big... When I... My wallet got hacked. I had all the Junie in there. But, like, it's up 63% right now. I mean, it's not bro.
[1:33:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: All the Junie in there got dunked on my forehead, and I am still holding Junie. Yes. When that hack happened, I was like, well, this is gonna be fun. I'm I'm... There was no point in moving it. Look. I mean, I I buy in a friend's projects. I plan on sticking around and seeing what comes of it. And if it dies, it dies. I'm not... I don't really care. In in in this case, I have no idea what's going in a virtuals, but I can tell you the virtuals coin and anything paired against virtuals is diving deeper than it normally would have based on smaller cell volume because virtuals is also moving down at the same time. So, you know, it's like with pairs and the Solana ecosystem paired against Solana, they're both going down at the same time. Solana is helping to drag that that market cap down. I don't know why there's volume coming in. I didn't I didn't even notice, to be honest with you. I haven't even checked.
[1:33:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's crazy, bro. It's like there's $20. Like... But when you look at the chart, like, it's up still six... 60 some percent. It's granted it's only a 30 k market cap, but, like, it just makes me wonder. I don't know if that's buybacks or what. And I I need to understand how these virgin points work because now I'm staking... I got an airdrop from Song or Sang. You know, the whole new, like, voice, like, virtuals agent, which is super interesting. And I have, like, 900 points. Where's coma when you need them, bro? Like, the one time I need coma, man. Cool. Are you doing anything still with the points with with with virtuals, by the way, the virgin points, by any chance? No? Damn, man. I don't know.
[1:34:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've got so many fucking points.
[1:34:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god, guys. Sorry.
[1:34:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm... Chonkla just hit me in the face. Sorry. But I I do not know what to do... What are these doing? I have no freaking idea what these points are for, why I'm getting them. I get some air drops. That's pretty nice. But I... And then I'm I'm afraid to actually interact with any of these airdrops. I gotta go and do, like, ten hours of research to figure out if they're real or not so that I don't get that wallet drained. So then I gotta move all of my assets to another wallet just so that I don't have to do ten hours of work and then go and sell those off or try to figure them out. I I don't know what what are they doing over there?
[1:35:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I... Bro, I I don't... Brett, do you have any insight for us, bro? Like like, anything in the virtual ecosystem as to, like, how these points work or or or anything over here by any chance or no?
[1:35:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. We've been kinda wondering the same thing. The best thing, I guess, I can can say is that, like, they're they're putting a heavy focus on the ACPs. You know? And so, like, how the points are gonna play into various ACPs because it's ultimately going to be... You know, I'm not sure how they're going to do it, but it seems like they're gonna be monetizing your user access to various ACPs in a certain way. And I feel like that's gonna have something to do with some of these points, but not not confirmed. I... That's definitely not like... That's a 100% speculation, but from the conversations I've had around virgin points is kind of what I'm thinking.
[1:36:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Brett, can you can you do a favor for me and make a suggestion to them to get off a Uniswap version two, please, for freaking heck's sake?
[1:36:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. I'll put in
[1:36:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: a letter
[1:36:17] Bread @_ToastMalone: and see if
[1:36:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: it Yeah. Responded.
[1:36:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Snail about that shit.
[1:36:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Seriously. Brett, plug plug where you got cooking over at Billy, bro.
[1:36:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, shit, dude. Yeah. About to... Just about to launch Polygon. Hit some errors earlier this week with the claiming. All of the auto bets and strategies that we've had going on for Kelsey are... They're a 100% functional on Polygon as well as manual betting on Polygon through our site too for, like, you know, to trail Billy follow exactly what he wants or what you wanna do and all of that. But, yeah, I had some issues earlier this week with claiming your positions because it's all handled through the embedded privy wallet. You know? There's none of the linking all of the various accounts and things like that. You know? It's just, like, trying to use the wallet that even normies get issued whether they know about it or not. You know? So just just building and cranking out on that new UI, and UX is actually... It's actually live if you have the alpha. So you can see the new UI and kinda start playing around with that. And then other than that, dude, I mean, we've got the... We've got streams coming now with the the pump fun stuff and the and the sweat token that we've been talking to a couple of creators. Shout out x factor. I pinged you, put your hat, you know, your name in the hat there with the team as far as, like, as we're trying to start reaching out to some of these creators, getting Billy an AI persona that's coming out in some videos and and trying to give him his own voice. We've been playing around a couple different voices, and quite frankly, I think they're all they're all kinda shit. So we want something that's... I don't know. Just doesn't sound as sterile as I feel like 90% of these AI voices sound. So, yeah, playing around with a bunch of stuff, but just, yeah, locked in, dude.
[1:38:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Beautiful. Good shit, bro. Keep cooking, my man.
[1:38:07] Bread @_ToastMalone: Wait. Landy has a question, bro.
[1:38:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. As as as a as a sweats holder that holds substantially more than the dev,
[1:38:16] Voice L: What the hell do I do with these tokens now? I'll never be able to exit without wrecking everything.
[1:38:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, man. So I I may have hit buy too many times, like, way too many times. And now you you gotta deal with me. So that is never an enviable position to be in, but I do enjoy the streams. They are very nice.
[1:38:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. Question. Wait. Wait. Quick.
[1:38:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Landing market maker services are ideal.
[1:38:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Was was thinking about that, but it's pump fun. I don't wanna
[1:38:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Real quick. Pump fun pools. Brad, real quick. So, like, can you maybe explain, like, what the thinking behind it and how it works? Because, like, as I... When I look at this, I'm like, man, another token. Is that diluting us as BILLI holders? And, like, how is the team looking at this? I know you said some portion is going back. Is there any kind of literature we can look at in terms of, like, you know, like, how much is actually gonna go back to the token, like, 2,000,000,000 for buybacks? Because, like, when you create another token, when you have an existing one, it's like, man, how is it not diluting us? So can you maybe...
[1:39:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: You wanna maybe chat about that?
[1:39:24] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. I did. Yeah. So it's like it has... Well, for starters, it's on pump. Right? So it's not even in the base ecosystem at all. It's a it's a pump token. And what we're doing is, like, you know, right off the get, we we bought an an absurd amount of the sweat token. You know? The idea is to use it to pay streamers for streaming with Billy Betts, you know, and essentially sports streaming. We're trying to get it set up to a point where we have essentially round the clock twenty four seven sports, you know, just like you would have a sports podcast or a sports, like, radio show, but literally be like a channel of different creators all streaming different things with sports related content and Billy Betts type stuff. You know? At... With pump fund tokens, how that works is the creator of the token, they get fee fee generation through the transactions that happen on pump. Right? And so that... Those fees are going to go straight back into buying Billy off, like, the open market at whatever price Billy's at. Some of that is going to go into rewards and, like, the loyalty stuff that we're gonna be rolling out later this month, early next month for, you know, just participation on the platform, your network of your invites, you know, and referrals and the volume of bets that they've done, you know, your whole network's p and l potentially, you know, so finalizing some of the the actual... What's gonna... How many points is everything worth and whatnot, you know, and how we get Billy back to the holders and what kind of schedule and things like that. You know? And so as that happens, then Billy token price goes up. And, ultimately, that's that's good for all of the BILI holders. Meanwhile, the the SWAT token will continue to go up as more exposure and more attention gets put on the brand and, you know, then the token... You the people that are streaming will have that token to go ahead and, either cash in on, or we might have some, a separate pool set up for straight to Billy. You know, some of the tokenomic things we're still playing with, but we wanted to get ahead of the ball, you know, on this. And funny because now all of a sudden after, you know, last night's episode of South Park, everyone's kinda like, oh, we should we should totally do a livestream while we bet on prediction markets and have all this stuff. And it's like, yep. Head of you there. We're we're already doing that, you know, just like we were already automating bets on Polymarket back in February. You know? So it it will make sense, you know, ultimately, once once everything gets ironed out and we get into a rhythm. We're all still new with pump fund because we're not a bunch of degens that came together for a team. We're a... We... More serious investors.
[1:42:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: So in theory... Oh, we're gonna rug here. So in theory, the the fee generation off of
[1:42:11] Voice L: the