All Things Crypto ATC POLYMARKET $9B VALUATION

# All Things Crypto ATC POLYMARKET $9B VALUATION | 2025-10-07 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1LyxBXYyrOLGN | status: approved
# Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed.

[0:00:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. No credits. It was good. Let's see where we at right here. Let's see. Let's see. And we'll play this shift in that. I don't know which one this is, but I figure... Oh, yeah. This is the one.
[0:01:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Metabeast was good. X factor, what up? Let's go.
[0:02:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why not why not not not hear you?
[0:02:29] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm wondering I'm wondering the same thing and I think Cardi does have money.
[0:02:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Baby.
[0:02:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Cardi b needs to be paying her cap.
[0:02:41] Voice M: I'm paying.
[0:03:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. That's better. You guys hear me okay?
[0:04:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, thank god. I thought it was me. No?
[0:04:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was not you. Finally, have a cold. I can start letting some people up up here. You know what I mean? Of course, Nat Nat missed the entire intro. Unbelievable. See... Let's see what goes on. That's it. Everybody's fired today.
[0:04:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Everybody's Well, Kart... Carti's the lucky one in that situation, I guess.
[0:04:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, yo, let me tell you. Like, I'm I'm literally playing it for Nat being like, you know what? Let me see my cohost. You know what I'm saying? Like, let me make them feel good. But, you know, I also did have a point to prove you were right, Meta Beast. Yeah. We we have not rung Nat up on charges for any of yesterday, to be perfectly honest. And, yeah, that... The the Cardi B from today. Nat, you missed it. What the hell? Where the hell were you guys? God. The show doesn't start 05:35. Only I sleep until 05:35, and then we hope to.
[0:04:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: My bad, guys. I was literally up all night with the baby last night. So today, I'm squeezing in every twenty or thirty minutes now that I can't get. But good morning. Good morning. The sun is out. It's beautiful.
[0:05:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You were... Wait. Wait. Hold up. You were sleeping? Yes. This is the best news I've heard all day.
[0:05:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. Did you see what I shared in
[0:05:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: the group chat? That's what
[0:05:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I feel like when you guys are like, oh my god. I feel like, literally, like, I'm sleeping in bed, and you guys are waking me up and, like, you're a mariachi band. And I'm just like, oh my god. Like, what what am I doing here? Y'all are, like, literally playing trumpets and singing in, like, beautiful, like, Mexican music. It's kinda nuts.
[0:05:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: How long does a person get to play, the baby card? I'm just curious.
[0:05:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. Right? Like, what age...
[0:05:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Listen. For as long as I want. Okay?
[0:05:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Good stuff. Welcome everybody to ATC, the Tuesday edition. I'm trying not to be as loud because I am in, you know, I'm in the basement over here, like, by the sisters. So we gotta be keeping... And there's people sleeping around. You know, nap time is a very popular thing, right, in my family. It is what it is, and being the Jewish holidays and whatnot. But cool. What is good, bro?
[0:06:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. What's up? I guess... Not Tuesday. What's up, I guess? Hey. Dave, what was it was it too late to be the the face of aligners, bro? What's what's it feel like? Number one in the in the world, in the entire world. What's it feel like, bro?
[0:06:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: See, that's why I love cool. Cool gases me up the right way. You see, guys? You see what see what my This is the this is the this is the founding partner you want. Do you understand? You know, it's like, man
[0:06:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: is already so big.
[0:06:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? Listen. Cool. If I must if I must answer, it feels fantastic. But, you know, it's a little lonely at the top over here. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a little lonely, and, you know, I'm just doing my thing up here, you know, cooking straight. I might have got offered, to literally start running the TG and the aligners Twitter account, but, you know, we won't mention any of that. That's not public information, but, you know, we'll see what's what. You know, you gotta make an impression out here. Cool. You told me to go hard, and I'm going even harder. So thank you, sir. And, Nat
[0:07:05] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Nat Nat, don't worry. I will find a way to make sure he gets knocked down a level every so often.
[0:07:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Listen, you. I was I was shouting you out today. Okay? I could've shouted everybody else out. Nat's in the DMs cooking me being like, wait. Number 15. And I'm like, Matt, I'm just pointing out the notables. I'm not showing everybody. You know what I mean? Like, people that had notable moves. That's all. And
[0:07:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm just saying we gotta we gotta keep keep it real, man.
[0:07:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you say keep it real? Who are you?
[0:07:34] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. What the...
[0:07:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? Keep it real. In what world?
[0:07:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: It it... It's the other question. Do you do you get DMs of people asking you to show you, show them their, their ranking on leaderboard? Do you get DMs? Cool.
[0:07:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I wake up every day to at least 20 different people in 20 different DMs asking me, hey, man. Can you check my can you check my position? Hey, man. I'm like, bro, I literally just opened my eyes. That's why the other day I was so pissed because that kid that was like, hey, man. I would really love to know, like, where I'm at. I'm like, it's 6AM. You know what? Maybe the kid's grinding. Let me let me see. So I scroll through page one, two, three, four, five. Bro, I'm on page 22. There's no search functionality on Wallchain yet. Right? And then I finally go check the kid's account. I was like, bro, when's the last time you made a freaking aligners post? Bro, September 23. I'm like, bro, what are you doing wasting my time out here like this? This is not the way. Okay? This is not the way. Crazy.
[0:08:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: I saw that. That was hilarious. But all jokes aside, Dave, you have been killing it. You you even got me to amplify, and I was so against it at the beginning. But you know what, guys? What what... We gotta do whatever we gotta do. We... We're helping each other out here. We're pulling each other up. We're cheering each other on, and I think it's a beautiful thing, Dave.
[0:08:46] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: That's what it's about.
[0:08:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what it's about. You saw what Coma posted yesterday, man. Like... And that was, you know, a a fraction of us too. Like, the ATC crew is out here strong. I love it. I want us represented really, really well. Like, we put in the time out here. Right? Like, we don't get paid for this. You know what I mean? Like, we put our own, like, literally ninety minutes of our day. Like, y'all have families too. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have kids. You guys have kids, families, babies. Like, that's a big deal. So, I I think it's it's only proper that we get the recognition a little bit that we deserve, and, eventually, hopefully, let's get the money that we deserve.
[0:09:19] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You know what I'm saying?
[0:09:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: But we'll figure that out. Moni's here too, and then we're gonna say what's up to our guests in Metapool. Moni, what's up?
[0:09:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Moni's on the train.
[0:09:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. She's on the train. She might be... She... I don't think she has signal right now.
[0:09:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's all good. Metabeast, you good? I know you didn't say hi to me yesterday. Man.
[0:09:39] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Man. I thought of that, and then I forgot about it.
[0:09:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: But what's up? How are you?
[0:09:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm going.
[0:09:46] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You good? I'm fine. I'm fine. Yes. Chase. Yeah. Actually, Chase, pretty decent day.
[0:09:51] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: That's good. Well,
[0:09:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: wow. My days.
[0:09:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. That's good. You're not like negative Nancy. That's great. I love hearing that. Fantastic. Bread, what's good?
[0:10:02] Bread @_ToastMalone: GM GM fam. Not a whole lot. Another Tuesday. You know? Just very carefully watching my bets get put in for me, seeing what's getting put in today. We got some MLB. And, yeah, I assume. Yeah. We'll we'll talk about all the prediction markets of what's happening because there was a a little bit of news that went around today on some prediction markets.
[0:10:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. Yep. We're definitely gonna get to the poly market stuff for sure for sure. 100%. But voodoo king, welcome. What is good, man? Welcome to ATC.
[0:10:35] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: Hey. How are you? All good. All good. Love the energy, guys, actually. Feeling great, and we didn't even started yet. So really, really excited to this.
[0:10:46] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That's it,
[0:10:47] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: man. Money money show up now?
[0:10:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And listen, if you don't know kinda, like, how we do things over here, if you've listened to the show maybe previously, we kinda just go through a bunch of, like, a few headlines. I want you involved. Would love your take on exactly what's cooking. And then, you know, if if you can spend some time with us, I don't know how much time you have, just let me know. And then maybe towards a little bit towards, like, the... Like, more close towards, like, the end of the show, I would love to kinda give you guys the floor, and you tell us exactly what you guys got cooking over at Metapool and and everything you
[0:11:16] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: guys got going on. Does that sound good? Love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be here until you kick me out.
[0:11:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Love that. Good stuff. Moni, you hear us? You're good.
[0:11:31] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh my gosh. Hi, Dave. Yep. I'm still on the subway. Sorry.
[0:11:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. X Factor, chill out. You might have the biggest nose ever, but that does not mean that you can imitate Moni. That's insane, bro. Moni? Nope. We don't got you, Moni. Come back. And she's like, I'm trying. I'm trying.
[0:11:47] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm sorry, Moni. I love you.
[0:11:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: X factor, what's up, Shnaus? What are doing?
[0:11:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What's up, my guy? Nothing. I just got home, man. Long ass day in, in web two. Just hanging out with my my little... My kid right now and jumping in with the with the ATC, ready to talk some some crypto, some prediction markets, poly market, man. Honestly, we're gonna look at this. We're... We'll talk about this further. Right? But we're gonna look at this deal three, four years from now, and they got an insane steal at at the at the valuation. I'm just saying.
[0:12:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, was definitely monster monster news for show. Big, big, big news. Who else came up? Who do I see up here? Derek. We got some new peeps. Derek, what's up?
[0:12:33] Voice M: Yeah. Jim, guys. Jim, Dave. Nice to meet you, guys. Shout out to you, guys. Thank you Now that we guys... Guys. Because I have to get some headlines. I know you guys already know that Zips has been hacked. Yeah. I think, like, the social media has been hacked. I don't know. Brooke Brooke blocked me. Because, like, I mean, some folks, we are being misled. Like, some people actually, like, was good using this stuff. They do, like... We are thinking, like, it's officially from Zix. Aside from that, like, I think we are using bots to reply the comment, so I should, like, push these stuff. So was telling some guys, like, not to interact, and, I mean, bullet hell, like, blocked me. But... Yeah.
[0:13:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. So you're saying the g... The the theg.com account blocked you, Derek? Is that what you're saying?
[0:13:24] Voice M: Yes. Like, he's come up and blocked me, but, like, I was telling people not to interact, and it was very crazy. I I wasn't even expecting it. I was...
[0:13:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that. I like that. I like that. We'll get we'll we'll get to it, but... Wait. So, yeah, hold... I told... Hold off on that because I wanna I wanna get to the polymarket story first, and then and then we'll obviously hit up the, we'll we'll we'll talk about the, the the jeet story. But let let let... Let's cook. Like, let's... Yeah. Moe, Monique, can you hear me now? Monique, can you hear me?
[0:13:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, no. Karinha, we're gonna have to drop you. Do you wanna try dropping her and bring her back up bring her back up? Because she's trying.
[0:14:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, Monique, maybe just... As Empress would say, there's an app update. Update even if there is... Have no idea if there's a
[0:14:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Maybe she had too many Coquitos.
[0:14:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Chill out. Chill out. Number one, nobody should be using anybody's likeness. I didn't like that. Okay? I did not like that. Everybody had the good I didn't
[0:14:21] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I didn't do it.
[0:14:22] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I know.
[0:14:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I did not do it, but I saw that and I'm I'm like, oh my god. Is that Dave?
[0:14:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I did not like that. I do not like that at all. So somebody trusts you with their likeness. Do not disrespect their likeness by not asking them permission to post anything in a public forum. This is a perfect example.
[0:14:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: What did I... Who who... They they posted an image of you drinking coquitoes. I need to see them.
[0:14:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Drunk. Drunk coquito, nonetheless. You know what I mean? You know, Moni knows the right etiquette. Oh, that's...... Keeps it in the...
[0:14:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Didn't see the one I sent to them. There's there's an actual ad for some, I don't know, supplement drink or something, I think it was. And the person... I didn't watch the video, but the person pictured, I'm like, that kind of... Kinda looks a little bit like Dave. What? I I added you I added you on it. I don't know if I can find it again, but I'll see if I
[0:15:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: can they've blasted all over Canada from revoking access
[0:15:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: to everybody, bro. Bro, it said literally mutuals. You know what I mean? But I guess I didn't realize how many people I was following. So now I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, oh, maybe I'm famous.
[0:15:33] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You actually have quite a bit of followers on Sora, sir. So I'd I'd probably I'd probably recommend against that, sir.
[0:15:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's that's been switched off. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks to this. That has officially been switched off. Monie, take six. It's been... Can you hear me? Yay. Let's go.
[0:15:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yay. I
[0:15:51] Moni @monitalan: was gonna say I followed the etiquette. I sent you everything. I haven't posted anything with your image. The, who you started by yourself or the one that's hurting yourself as the dog.
[0:16:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I loved it though, by the way. That. When she sent me that, I'm like, yo. If you are a child of immigrant parents, you know exactly what this means no matter what you call that thing. Right? Like, a sandal, a flip flop, and French... Arabic like my mom used to... We used to call it a babush. They're flicking something at your head. You're being stupid as a child.
[0:16:22] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Is that is that where the term babushka comes from? Where you get a babushka right to the face?
[0:16:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. Not at all. It's two very different things, but but but good try. It is what it is. Alright. Let's get into this story. Biggest headline of the day. NYSE owner ICE, Intercontinental Exchange is investing up to $2,000,000,000 in Polymarket, which values Polymarket at 8 to $9,000,000,000. This is the owner. This is the parent company to the New York Stock Exchange that is making the biggest private crypto investment in history, okay, into a prediction market. You've been hearing us talk about this, guys, day after day, month after month, okay, about prediction markets. If you don't think this is going to be a meta, I don't know what to tell you. But here's the here's the premise of the deal. Up to 2,000,000,000 in cash from ICE at an $8,000,000,000 pre money valuation. Okay? That's pre money valuation. What ICE is gonna do and what NYSE is gonna do is they're gonna distribute Polymarket data, sentiment, probabilities, all of the shit to all of these different institutions, right, in collab, and they're all gonna do it on tokenized fucking rails. Okay? Tokenized rails on chain. Sorry, Nat. Whatever. Just put put that on the tab. That was that. Sorry. Okay. I'm good. What, like, what does this actually mean, and why is this so absolutely monumental? This gives ICE and the New York Stock Exchange and the entire TradFi world now, right, the center of the TradFi world, like, prediction markets, and it gives the institutions an on ramp to all of this. That's exactly what this is. Now the big, big, big money can really come in here and play, and this is the proof and the validity that the blockchain is this... Is one of the most... I don't even know what the proper word is, but it is one of... Gonna be one of the most transformative and monumental technologies, right, right alongside artificial intelligence that we have seen because we are literally transforming the entire financial system, and this deal right here speaks volumes of exactly what we're gonna be doing. Nat, cool. Talk to me. You guys saw this news. What do we make of this?
[0:18:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think this is massively bullish. Right? So for me, the fact that they're they're investing that large amount of cash, it says two things. Right? They like the tech. They know what they can do with it. And two, they know how much money Polymarket is is making, and they want in. Right? Because that's a massive valuation. And even in cash, there's a lot of cash to be putting down. But the fact that they're willing to go that big really does say, hey. You know what? There's something that we can do with this, and they can double and triple it. I really do believe this is really just the beginning, and I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this.
[0:19:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. Cool. And then we'll go over to Monica. Cool. Talk to me about...
[0:19:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. They they... You know, I I saw you use, I think this might be the first ever crypto, app that's going mainstream. It went mainstream during the, US presidential election last year in November. It went it went it went mainstream with, you know, Musk talking about... I mean, you know, Musk tweeting about about about them. It's so mainstream. Even it went so... It's... It went so mainstream that the founder of PolyMarkets was on CNBC as the the biggest or the most well known financial network in in The US. The founder was there talking about, yeah, you know, the platform and all that. Even when more mainstream,
[0:20:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: when
[0:20:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: the FBI raided the founder's house... But... Yeah, man. But but, I mean, they've they've... I mean, it's... I wish more apps are like this, in crypto. I think it might be the beginning. I I wish... I hope someday we we have a lot more crypto projects that get this kind of attention. But, yeah, I mean, they've they've made this. Once once your your once your Web three platform project is in amounts of people that don't even really know what crypto is as a whole, and they're talking about your platform. They invested money into your platform. Yep. They they made it. The founder of of the... Of of of of of the platform is already... He's he's made it, man. It's game over. So, yeah, I I just hope more... I hope and pray more, we get more projects that get this kind of attention. Yeah.
[0:20:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Have y'all seen what he looks like also, by the way? I'm just saying when you hear Cole say all the time, it's the most indiscreet, like, sloppy clothes wearing, hair flopping looking dudes. That's the poly market owner that just got 2 freaking billion, okay, from the New York Stock Exchange, just FYI.
[0:21:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, have you seen have you seen the CEO of Palantir? He looks... He's... The same, and this guy is swimming in money.
[0:21:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So so
[0:21:14] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Break break this break this down really quick because people don't understand. Right? Prediction markets, like, what's the biggest prediction market right now in the world? It's the New York Stock Exchange. And by the way, an inappropriately named department ICE is wild work. I was I was kinda like chuckling about it. But anyways...
[0:21:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: They have tenure. They have tenure. They've been called Intercontinental Exchange for a hot second. So they have...
[0:21:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Okay. Alright. Alright. I I was like, damn.
[0:21:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Anyways,
[0:21:40] xFactor @xFactorPOL: the fact that they invested in this, which I really I really do think it's cheap, $99,000,000,000 valuation in a couple years is gonna be like nothing for what could be. They are lit... They are literally gonna go ahead and get prediction markets on chain using Polymarket technology. And you're talking about the New York Stock Exchange on Polymarket. I don't know, man. That's that's that's what that's what's coming in my mind. I mean, why would they invest all this freaking money if if they're not gonna put it to play in a big way. Right? So we're we're literally at the very beginning of something massive.
[0:22:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Absolutely. Monica, I know you have your hand up. I... We'll we'll go to you. Just... I just need to say this real quick. Right? Guys, I really do believe, like, based on everything that we're seeing, everything that we've read, everything that we're hearing that Polymarket literally is really just the beginning. Because think about it, they would... As I mentioned, right, they would not they would not invest that kind of money if they didn't see potential. Right? If we're putting it next to, like, an NVIDIA, it had... That 9,000,000,000 valuation is nothing. If we're putting it next to... I don't even know, like, an AMD. Right? That that valuation is nothing. It can literally 10 x over the years. So it's... This is a big, big story. It's a big headline, and I'm sure we'll be hearing more about it.
[0:22:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Morning. Stuff to add. Morning. Go for
[0:22:53] Moni @monitalan: Let's see. So two things. I shared... So the other thing is that sometimes people think crypto is fast and easy, and it doesn't take work. Look. That's the image he posted. That's where he was twenty twenty working from his bathroom because he didn't have her to work. And look at where he is now. Right? I know five years is fast for some, but, again, they put in the work. But I do think the other thing that I read recently, and I'm looking for the story, is Bank of America is already using Polymarket to give data to the clients. So the reports that they share with clients, they're actually including Polymarket data. So I think there's a lot of qualified companies using Polymarket. We just don't know. I think it came up in an interview that the CEO gave.
[0:23:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Agreed. That that bathroom pick is funny. That go... Really goes to show you, like, yo, Rome is not built in a day. And for those that say overnight success, yeah, go look at stuff like that. My man was literally in his bathroom when you see, like, the broken door bathroom he's got. The the laptop propped up on the freaking... On the laundry basket. Like, give me a break. But I I think the other thing here to note too is... And I fully agree with what you guys are saying in terms of this could be genuine... Like, this could be really, really massive. Like, Wall Street... Here's what Wall Street is infamous for. Right? Wall Street is infamous for telling you, no. No. No. No. Don't do this while they essentially go out and start accumulating the thing that they specifically told you don't do because they need to get ahead of the curve. That's how it works. That's... You're messing with their money in the... In those cases. Right? What this tells me is this this space is moving so fast that they didn't have an option. You think they want to spend 2,000,000,000? No. They're looking at this and saying, if we're already using a lot of this, and we know the institutions are using a lot of this already, why would we not try and get ahead of this and really just lock this up now? It's the same thing, like, when Zuckerberg made the bid for WhatsApp. Right? People were like, what the hell? Right? Like, this doesn't make sense. Look at it now. Right? Like, these are the acquisitions that have big price tags, but when you have such monumental technology and you're able to see it, and apparently ICE and the NYSE see it, like, this is, like, this is gonna be massive. It really, really is. Yeah. Nat, go for it, and I wanna get breadstick.
[0:25:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And we we can... We can compare it to, like, Bitcoin. Right? Remember a few years ago, the banks are like, we're not... We're never having Bitcoin. We're not buying Bitcoin. It's a fad. Meanwhile, we we came to realize that all this sign they were telling us not to buy, they were buying themselves. Right? And it's all coming to light now.
[0:25:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Jamie Dimon telling... Getting out of his his Rolls Royce Phantom at the Yelp Club with his gold slippers when he's telling you, Satoshi is fixated. He doesn't know... This isn't a real thing. Blah blah blah. Now look at them. Bitcoin backflips. Exactly. Yeah. Get out of here. Exactly, Landy. Let me get Brett's take up. Brett, wanna get your take on this. Obviously, like, you know, you're you're obviously heads down all the time in the, in the prediction market space. Like, what's the deal? Like, how are you how are you guys looking at this? Like, what's Billy doing for this? Like, talk to me.
[0:25:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah, dude. Well, I mean, just, you know, legitimately holding our breath right now for Polymarket US. I'm on the wait list, and Billy's on the wait list, and Joe's on the wait list. I mean, like, like, we're all just waiting to get access to US. You know? I think that, yeah, realistic... You know, like, realistically, ICE or ICE or whatever we're referring to them as, like, they they see the volume that has been going through Calci. Like, it's not like they've never heard of Calci because they're interested in Polymarket. You know what I mean? Like, they... Like, everybody's watching everything, you know, and seeing that, like, oh, well, they got CTFC approval. Like, that's why they're doing all this in The US. And, like, if Polymarket could do the volume that they did for elections legally in The US, like, it'd be game over. And now they're seeing the sports too, and they're seeing everything else. I mean, it's just a... It's an absolute money making machine. And at the end of the day, like, we've all been saying for years out here, you know, data is gold. Data is oil. Data is, like, what's really valuable. And they're gonna be using this data from Polymarket and all these on chain things and KYC because, you know, bet your ass. Like, it's going to be KYC ed in The US. You know? Polymarket will be up 99% positive. You know? If they're... If they don't, then I'm... Like, we'll be blown away, and I can't wait to see how they're getting away with that. You know what I mean? But, like, ultimately, it's gonna be a lot of data, and it's all being fed to news stations and the others... You know, all of these huge hedge funds and all of this stuff on how the market's moving in real time across every single sector and every single industry on the entire planet. You know? It's, it's only a matter of time before there's gonna be, like, prediction markets internally, like, b to b prediction markets on supply chains and shipments and, you know, like, p and l internally on company, like, KPIs. And, like, it's all going to end up being aggregated and put on chain to be verified. And then, you know, essentially, where do all these Venn diagrams overlap? You know? And that's, like, really where the value lies in all this data. So I'm not surprised. I mean, yo, nine bill, bro. That's that's a that's a crazy high valuation, man. Like
[0:28:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: a drop in the bucket for what it's gonna be in a couple years, bro. I'm I'm 100%.
[0:28:11] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, for sure. For sure. But right out of the gate, like, you know, a nine bill, that's a that's a really large, like, I guess, estimation. Right? Because, like, I will say, like, huge fan of Polymarket. I've been using it for, you know, since, realistically, like, January, February of this year. I didn't play the prediction stuff on the elections and whatnot, but the way they calculate volume is interesting. Right? And so I think that there's there's some things there that, like, I wanna see what their actual... Because they're not making any fees. Right? Like, they're not charging any fees. So, like, outside of the data, like, where does the $9,000,000,000 valuation come from if there's technically not really, like, a revenue model?
[0:28:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: They probably know something we don't, and that... That's what makes me believe that what Polymarket is doing something, whether it's a data or their tech or something in there that's very valuable, and I'm sure we'll we'll we'll find out about it soon.
[0:29:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. So, like, in in 2024, Polymarket did, and I posted the article up that I that I was literally deep deep diving into this before this was announced. But they did 9,000,000,000 just in in gross, and they... Now they valued the company at 9,000,000,000 just on on on what was generated in 2024. Insane valuation, honestly, for for for zero metrics. It's almost like a tech company. Right? Like, somebody going in, like, when Apple came in and and went to Silicon Valley and said, hey. I need money because, like, I have this forward looking valuation of all this cool shit I'm gonna do. And people are like, yep. You're right. Let's go run it. Here's a buckload of money. That's kinda what just happened right now with PolyMarket, and it's it's insanely bullish for us.
[0:29:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: But you have to take that 9,000,000,000 in volume and essentially, like... Well, first, cut it right in half immediately, and then take another almost half of that away to find out what the actual volume is because the way they calculate volume on their platform is every dollar in, dollar out, dollar 1, dollar lost. Yep. Right? Because there's two sides on it all.
[0:30:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: 100%. I was just simplifying it, putting into perspective that that you just aggregated all that number and said, yep. That's your evaluation, and and nobody else, like, second second guessed it. It's wild work. That's crazy.
[0:30:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: And and this isn't... And here's the thing too. Right? Like, this isn't... When I really look at this, like, this isn't your your traditional, like, oh, like, what is it treating it? What's the PE ratio? And, like, this isn't that. Right? Like, this is... When you look at brand new tech that Wall Street's gonna start instituting, they see the opportunity. Right? And you better believe that the New York Stock Exchange is going to be selling, like, bread, like you said, that data to these institutions at a very, very premium price point. And then what are they gonna do? They're gonna turn around, and they're gonna create these crazy products, right, that are essentially gonna pitch it right back to us. Right? And... But the thing to remember here is you're here now, like, on the ground floor. What I find really interesting... And Voodoo King, wanna... I kinda wanna get your take as well, is when you look at this and you look at some of the other prediction markets, right, try, like, Limitless just wanted to raise a million dollars, but got 200,000,000 in commitments for making... I mean, I think they made, like, a $250,000, maybe, I think it was. Brooke, they raised 200... They have $200,000,000 in commitments. So, like, what this is going to mean for the rest of the prediction market, I don't know if y'all can say bubble or whatever, but I don't know how it's starting, but people are getting excited about it. This might be, like like, good, great. I'll say this about Limitless, though, too. We tried implementing into Tater. There's a couple broken APIs in there where we can't see shit, and, like, we can't even get somebody to fix an API. So just be be very careful in terms of what you're gonna be putting your money towards. But, Voodoo King, I want your take on the on the Polymarket store. You got any any insight for us?
[0:31:54] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: Oh, I wish I had. No. No. No. Totally. I'm I'm I'm 100% with you. It's, like, totally formal, and and it's, like, going huge. And, like, when you start, like, hearing noise over noise over noise about it, it's like, okay. It's... You you can just, like, look sideways. It's it's coming. So you got to... Oh, yeah. Not that. I think that has something to share.
[0:32:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good. Yeah. I mean, look. I
[0:32:30] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: Okay. I don't wanna... Yeah. No. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[0:32:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't... Yeah. I mean, the end of the day, like, yeah, there's noise. Like, this is loud loud noise, though
[0:32:38] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Exactly.
[0:32:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: To the tune of $2,000,000,000. Like, guy... Like, think about this, guys. Like, this was the biggest private crypto investment round ever. We thought we had seen it with the, the Stripe deal. Right? Remember? We thought it built with Bridge. It was, like, a $1,000,000,000, and we were like, oh my god. This is crazy. A billion dollars. That literally eclipses this by double, and it's not even, what, two, three months later? Maybe that we were we were talking about this? Yeah, Moni.
[0:33:04] Moni @monitalan: That's what I was gonna say. I mean, look at how fast it's moving. I don't I don't think I expected everything to move so quickly. In 2025, I thought we'd see one or two things like Stripe, but this is just accelerating so quickly.
[0:33:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: How do we buy how do we buy into... How do we buy equity into, like, I don't know, melee markets, Myriad, like, limitless... How do we... Forget these tokens. I wanna buy equity in these companies. Nat, find something for us. What the hell? Like, we we... There's gotta be a way.
[0:33:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. No. I got to. Brad, check your DMs.
[0:33:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah.
[0:33:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Puppets here too. Coma came up also. Landy, what's good, my brother?
[0:33:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. How's everybody doing this afternoon? Hope everybody's having some fun. I mean, look. This is a really interesting conversation, and this is the kind of ice that you do want to come knocking on your door. This is... Yeah. My... I wish that they would come knock... This ice would come knock on my door. We wouldn't... My my wife would be very happy about it. But that's a little joke from people from South America.
[0:34:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Polysia. Polysia.
[0:34:13] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's...
[0:34:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Laugh and laugh. Okay. Go ahead.
[0:34:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know you're harboring Peruvians in your attic. Anyway... But this is this is massive. This is a a massive game changer, and there is going to be changes with Polymarket. I think that this is where those that utilize Polymarket and and as it continues to grow and evolve, this is now going to demand ways in which they find out and and possibly innovate on revenue models. Right? To this point, there's been a few things that have been float... Floated as these conversations have been going on. For instance, utilizing the market making side to to still reduce friction for those that are going to, you know, place bets. And then, there's also some maybe withdraw fee stuff that has been floated out there. But right now, one of the big things is they they understand why it's been so successful. Right? Because the friction has been minimal. There's... You just can go on and you can place bets, and you're walking away with your actual money. You're not getting it eaten alive even, you know, you can you can play arb there and not get eaten alive by the trade. So it's it's a really, really cool thing that I don't think many understand is causing people to think differently in terms of revenue model. And that's where, like, when Brett brought up, like, I'd like to see how they actually come up with these numbers to to value this stuff, how are they gonna make their money. And that really is kind of where things are at, is they're still looking at how do we make... We have this money generating platform. It is literally transferring vast amounts of value. How do we capture some of that value? And I think there's going to be some really solid ways in which, especially on the crypto industry side of things, that we can take from that as they experiment. Right? We've been... We we talk about this quite often. It's like, you know, we're... It's all the early people here that are building and bootstrapping and creating and and testing and effing around and finding out in this market because it's so new that the best ideas are going to be bought and then innovated on, and those will become the standard. Right? So that's where the really fierce competition in this space from the development side is going to drive forward, you know, the the best innovators in the industry that are going to then be exposed to a much wider audience in retail. And that... That's something that... By the way, everyone, even the big money players that are getting into this now, are still like, you know, we don't know. We're also here to f around and find out. We're the early big whales in this industry that are here to f around and find out, and we're just hoping that we're early enough to to keep pushing forward that innovation and driving forward and and supporting that innovation that we can, you know, either take over and and exercise full authoritarian control of these networks, or we could just bank in in massive ways. Right? So, you know, I... I'm... I I think this is great stuff, and I also would like equity in a lot of these different companies, and networks and stuff like that. And the best way to do that, Dave, is to become... Especially on any proof of stake network is to gather enough, you know, enough supply that you can become a validator. That's your equity play. And and in fact, it's one of the best equity plays when you're in at a network level because when you get these brilliantly built platforms and great ideas that are taking advantage and driving volume on those network, you... On those networks, you are the primary beneficiary without having any of the risk. And you get to capture all the volume, and you don't have to capture any of the risk of those specific organizations or specific projects.
[0:38:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, quick question for you. Real quick before I go to Monica. Maybe I'm just... I'm having a brain fart, but do you mean by an east node? Or can... Are there polygon nodes? I... Why can I not remember this?
[0:38:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: There are polygon nodes.
[0:39:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: There are polygon nodes. Okay. If you wanna do a network validator Yeah. For specific networks, you need to just look up really how much does it cost to... How much is needed to become a validator, a competitive validator. Right? Because when you're a validator, you're you're you can be a node, but a node is different than a validator. A lot of validators are also nodes, and then there's validators that own a bunch of nodes that support the network and decentralization, all that stuff. But what you're doing is you're capturing network fees. Right? That is that is the real play at the end of the day. And if you're capturing network fees through your staking processes, you're also going to be able to capture that yield. Right? And then raise TVL in different pools, and you could do all kinds of different things. It's very... If you wanna compare this to, stacks kind of model of of, their their way that they mine, it's very different. But in terms of the model of, like, you need x amount to start your own stacking pool because I know you you understand that kind of stuff pretty well. You need x amount of dollars to be a network validator on Polygon, x amount of dollars right now to go and buy enough hype to be, you know, a validator on Hyperliquid, that kind of stuff. Right? And that's where you can capture value on the network, but it's a big cost upfront. Right?
[0:40:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I don't have 32 ETH. Right? Like... So that's why I'm asking. Like, I... And I'm looking it up now, but I'm just curious if anybody knew off the top of their head what it costs to run
[0:40:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: a Polygon.... Vary. It's gonna vary...
[0:40:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, the validator. Yeah.
[0:40:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's gonna vary network by network. Right? For for Polygon, it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be a very different than be... Than becoming an ETH validator. And and, yes, it is it is very competitive, and very expensive on the ETH side of things. But if you start your own network, you know, you're you're running validators for Ethereum that connect over via the EVM for your side chain, but then you have your own set of validators on your chain. Right? You're validating your own network and settling on Ethereum essentially for the security or... You know, there's different ways of doing it. It's a very complex thing for some of these networks and not for others, but it's gonna be different. I don't remember what it is for Polygon. You know?
[0:41:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: 10,000 is... Yes. I'm looking at that. I'm looking at that now and I'm getting different variations, but what some stuff says 10,000.
[0:41:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So Polygon Polygon is is 10,000 to stake that you have to stake, but there's so much more than that too. You have to support the hardware.
[0:41:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. To be your own validator. Yeah. You have to run your own hardware.
[0:41:34] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Right. And then also 10,000 is gonna be the bare minimum. Right? So if you only have that, you're probably not gonna get much in fees. To land this point, you have to you have to come in with size to actually make it worth your while.
[0:41:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I'd argue I'd argue that you're probably on Polygon specifically. You're probably gonna be pushing into the mid 500,000 and above to even...
[0:41:54] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I was gonna say close to a million, bro.
[0:41:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. A million or more probably there. Well, they they generate a lot of volume, so you're probably... You'd get a little bit, but in order to get your money back, you gotta really spend good money. I mean, it's something like we're in the, like, like, 30... We're almost at 30,000,000 on hype, I believe, is the minimum. I have to go check again, and it's based on price. I think it's somewhere around 30,000,000, for validator set to be competitive on HyperLiquid. Dollars.
[0:42:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? Meaning, like, roughly less than a million. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.
[0:42:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So then... And it's gonna probably be... You're probably looking at, like, a bare minimum of a million dollar investment in Polygon tokens alone. Not to... That... Then you gotta also be, you know, running your hardware and and so on and so forth. So, you know, there's costs associated with that.
[0:42:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Yeah. And and just to go back really quickly, guys, on how are they actually going to make money. Like we said, like, be clear. Right? What Brett said is 100% correct. Like, in their docs, it's like, oh, like, we don't charge. There's there's no fees. There's no this. There's no that. But at the end of the day, make no mistake of exactly how they're gonna do this. It's gonna be like everything else. It's gonna be data distribution. Right? Like, API access. Right? Like, they'll have a little public API that's I'm sure is gonna be super rate limited, and then they're essentially gonna tell you, hey. You want the enterprise level of stuff? Here you go. We can offer it to you at this price. Right? And, again, those companies, those institutions are essentially gonna create some certain products to figure out how to pipe that back into every product that they offer that's going back to the retail customer. Yeah, Brad. Go for it.
[0:43:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Two words for you, David. I know that you'll know them, and it's Bloomberg terminal. Facts.
[0:43:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: There you go. There you go. Exactly.
[0:43:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: How I agree.
[0:43:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Real real quick. I wanted to point out why I brought up the validator set because those numbers are probably out of reach for many in the audience. Probably not everyone in the audience, but probably many. The reason that I bring it up is because equity stake in these in these types of things is is is sometimes way more, right, to get an equity stake in some of this stuff. You're talking about $2,000,000,000 being injected, $9,000,000,000 valuations. You know, your your your million dollars isn't gonna do a whole lot there. Your 2 or $3,000,000 isn't gonna do a whole lot in terms of equity stake. You'll get something. Right? You're you're gonna make money, but you can capture an entire network. If you can capture an entire network's fee generation model for that same amount of investment, those are things that actual investors are looking at. Right? That's one of the reasons why I brought it up because that is... Well, I mean, network infrastructure is kinda my thing. So I I... That's my favorite lane to play in because you can capture everything. You don't have to risk on any of these one things. Although when they do hit, you know, something like this, you... If you were in it, if there... You had a way to get in it, you, of course, could make a lot of money.
[0:44:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Guys, real quick, guys, for the audience, Bloomberg terminal, it's like a... It's a financial software and like a data service that it it talks... Issues out real time market data, news, analytics, trading, everything that everyone needs to make the the right financial decision on Wall Street.
[0:45:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: And so everybody is clear. Okay? If you've never had to pay for your own Bloomberg terminal, let me tell you. Okay? When I went out of my... Trading out on my own. Okay? Like, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go do... I'm making enough money now. Like, I'm a free agent. I got... People are gonna want what I want... What I have. Yeah. Little did I know about the cost that the old shop was paying for me. I get to the new shop, and they're like, yeah. You're gonna need to pay your Bloomberg terminal. You need to pay all of the API fees, the cost, the the real time data feeds. And I'm like, how how much is that? And they're like, that shouldn't be too bad. Maybe, like, 7,800. And I'm like, could we work some $8,000? And that, mind you, is the... That's for a single individual market maker that needed four real time price feeds from overseas German markets. Okay? So maybe five. Like, five price fees Dude. At basic terminal access.
[0:45:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It was crazy. Dude, I was like, $8,000 a week? Because you must not have much going on in that terminal if it was, like, $8, bro.
[0:46:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: But let me tell you something. I... Because they were charging us ticket charges at the old place. So I'm like, oh, like, I... Because I wasn't aware of how, like, it actually worked. But when you really look... This is the reason why Michael Bloomberg is one of the richest moanfosses on the planet. I didn't say it. I mumbled it. Is one of the richest dudes on the planet. Mhmm. And one of the richest dudes on the planet. Okay? Because every financial institution has this disgustingly yellow and green terminal in front of their desk, right, to access whatever it is that they need because they are piped into every financial market across the world.
[0:46:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You can
[0:46:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: make it orange. You can make it orange, bro, just like Bitcoin. Bitcoin orange is already there.
[0:46:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And and and for... If you think for one second that Polymarket and ICE is not going to be essentially charging Bloomberg a shit ton of money for Access who's then gonna charge these guys. You're mistaken. I promise you. Just that deal alone will probably value this entire deal worth it. Yeah. Go ahead, Moni.
[0:47:09] Moni @monitalan: Well, I just put up something, and I know that I believe Circle, but it's a question from the... For Landy. Landy, do you think is the impact on Polygon? Right? This is where it's built. I I know that you can stake Polygon so you don't get Polymarket requires... The rewards you get for other projects. But just curious if you see any impacts on Polygon.
[0:47:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. I've I've been in Polygon for quite some time now. They... You know, last cycle was was a beautiful time, and Polygon is still... We've talked about this before here. It's still substantially above where it was last cycle. So the... This is this is now proving out that the networks got a lot of value. One of the bigger things is... I know because it's built on Polygon, I do believe that there's a a chain unification push coming for a lot of these dApps and platforms, meaning that they're going to support various chains. So I can't predict where that's going to put it... Put Polygon in relation to this. But it is exciting news for Polygon because this is a major project and and application that's running on Polygon rails. So this is a really good selling point. I actually really like Polygon, so I have... You know, I'm trying to be careful here, but I I have no reason to divest. I have been investing more throughout its accumulation on the lows, and I expect it to perform well. And I expect more to continue to go and and build there. Right? So that... And and... But I will say that for many of the applications that you see at a certain point, I don't know how long it's gonna take, but problems need to be solved on the user side of things, and that's gonna require a lot of chain extraction and a lot of bridging and a lot of, you know, liquidity pools on multiple networks for all of these different projects and dApps and interaction with everything. Because at the end of the day, users that are using these things aren't gonna care about what the rails are that's running it. It's gonna be, does the application do what it says it does? Can I make money if? Of course, by betting on these markets? I don't really care if it's Polygon. I don't care if it's Bitcoin that it settles on. I don't care. I just wanna make money, and I wanna be able to move my money. So, you know, it starts out there, but eventually, it's gonna be everywhere. Right?
[0:49:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think at the end of the day too, Landy, it is an alt. Right? It's considered an alt. So we kinda need that season that we've kind of been talking about and praying for it and wishing on and rain dancing for it to come.
[0:50:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's just it's it's it's
[0:50:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: strange, though, that with all this crazy boost news, well, Polygon has been... Price wise, it hasn't performed like you think it would, which is very strange, which just indicates we're not anywhere near. I I think we we we need to ban the the word, the altcoin season on this show for a long time because I I tagged you guys in the post yesterday. Bitcoin price broke off all the money yesterday, but the Google search the Google search for Bitcoin is at their market's territory. So we need to ban all coin season terminology for at least for a long time because we're not anywhere near. Because if if if Polygon can't can't do well in price, with this kind of news come on, but we're not even anywhere near all point season. Yes.
[0:50:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I have a question for you. This is related and topical. Sorry, Kanter. But it's related to what you just said about that post. I was reading the comments to that post because I was tagged in it, and everyone is talking about manipulation, manipulation, manipulation. And I think they missed one of the main points of what they... You're trying to make is that the search for this stuff, typically, people are not searching because they're trying to learn what any of this is. In most cases, the search uptick is because they're excited about price. Hey. The price went up. Oh, what is going on over there? What's the price? It's not because, like, oh, they don't know what Bitcoin is, and they're not getting assaulted with it constantly by mainstream media now and CNBC. But it's that they're looking and googling, like, what's the current price and, like, what was it, like, last week or last year? What did I miss? And we're not seeing any of that because no one cares. It's like, no... At a certain point, no one really pays attention to NVIDIA ripping to new all time highs and creating crazy price discovery moments. No one's paying attention to gold because they're just... They they get numb to it. They hear it all the time. Well, gold's up again. It's... It it hit 4 k or almost $4,000, which was a target, by the way. Yeah. Big thumbs up. Thanks. But this is like... No one cares anymore because it's like you're you're just used to it. So it's only gonna become really, really interesting, I think, this time is when it absolutely dumps out, then everybody's gonna be searching like, wow. What happened over here? It blew up. And then I think it might be the inverse this time. Maybe that's when retail will be like, hey. Can we finally jump on? And then they're, I don't know, they're selling their top ramens and and their bullion cubes for, you know, some crypto now because there's nothing else that they can get rid of.
[0:52:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bullion cubes? Goddamn.
[0:52:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: They have no money, Dave.
[0:52:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: But we're revaluing gold, Landy. Soon. Soon. Hashtag soon. Don't worry. Thank you.
[0:53:01] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Don't undervalue bullion, bro. That shit's, like, really
[0:53:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bullion. Three... Bullion and bullion. Very funny.
[0:53:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Three kings, one of my favorite movies. Shout out to ice cube. Cantor, what's up, bro? You're playing Frogger in the middle of New York City again.
[0:53:18] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Oh, Sam. I was actually coming up to respond to what you're talking about Bloomberg. I think Bloomberg is a interesting case study on psychology and community. The argument that I always hear about Bloomberg's success is that it's not so much like the data terminal that people come for. It's more about the network and the fact that in Bloomberg terminal, you can actually DM traders, which is really interesting where you can contact them. And that's why a lot of people go there is because it's the place where you do that. It's like LinkedIn, and you can't compete with the moat that Lindbergh has. So there's no way that you're gonna create more upside unless, you know, maybe there's something down the line with crypto or web three where you can align those incentives in a good enough way for people to switch to a different platform to get all their data. The network and the moat is kinda what people are mostly interested in. I know, like, on the crypto side, there's companies like Arkham. Right? They're kinda trying to do that a little bit, and that... That's always interesting to look at. The other thing too, I think it's worth mentioning when we think about the correlation between search and interest in price and and token speculation. I think more and more, we're gonna be looking at less on Google search queries and more like agentic search queries. Like, what are people typing into ChatGPT that we don't have access to and that we can't see statistics on? And I know it's... It still feels a little bit early, but not for nothing chat GPT that search queries just in the last month. YouTube plus Google is, like, a 100... Not billion, trillion. Actually, YouTube plus Google is, like, a 130,000,000,000,000. So they still have a massive, massive edge, but it's creeping up very quickly.
[0:55:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good
[0:55:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: to goes back... Sorry, Dave.
[0:55:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Go ahead, ma'am.
[0:55:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: This goes back to that old saying. Right? The information is free. The access isn't.
[0:55:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: There you go.
[0:55:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's it. Yep. We have a lot of information available, but the access is limited on... Unless we pay for it.
[0:55:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what's interesting that, like, it came to mind as we're talking about this cool... Like, remember how we talked about, like, do we think that... We asked this question, I don't know, maybe six months ago of do we think Trump is gonna be able to get elections on blockchain rails by the time he's done in four years. I don't know, bro. But that argument just got a serious shove into more more... Like, if we were to make a prediction market, I'd say, like, the odds just went up on yes on on that specific thing. And I... Bro. And when you start talking about that and government budgets potentially on blockchains and money and allocations and balancing budgets and going to places that it's supposed to go to where it never does as opposed to going to, like, politicians' pockets and special interests and all this BS. Like, then we can really start seeing society actually change, which is kinda why not to get too, like, you know, like, existential. That's why I got into this shit. You know what I mean? Like, I got into this because when I started reading about this, I'm like, I think this tech can change the world. And I'm seeing it, like, literally play out right in front of my eyes. And it's something really, really cool to see, and the opportunity is massive. It's here. And I think people really need to just sometimes take a step back and look at the 30,000 foot view, and you can imagine, like, what can come of this. Right? It might be speculation at this point, but you know what they say. Well, our conspiracy theory is your only conspiracy theories until they're not, until it actually happens. So let's see what's up. But let's go to gamer who's gonna obviously throw an an e in our face and tell us how, you know, I told you so, and then, Landy, I'll... Unless, Landy, you wanna comment something on this real quick, and then I'll go to Gamer because I know that's what he's gonna talk about. Oh, Landy. Hi, Landy. Landy's like, yeah. I don't wanna hear Gamer. Tell me I told you so. Gamer, what's up, my brother? How are you?
[0:57:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So, yeah. I told you so.
[0:57:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, no.
[0:57:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It's a beautiful day. Actually, it actually really is a sunny, beautiful day here in the bay. You know? Even though markets turned around and went down a little bit, it's still a good day. Speaking on Matic, man, talk about flashback from the past. I still got a moon bag of that thing. But... You know? Because I grabbed Matic, I think, last cycle for, like, a penny. Made, I don't know, like, 40 or $50 on that thing. So can't be mad at Matic. You know, I still got a bag of it. So, yeah, if they if they can come back, you know, come back and and do its thing again, you know, more power to them. But I just wanted... I threw up top here talking about special interests. That's perfect, you know, hand off into this. So stand with crypto is the political lobbying branch of the crypto ecosystem through Coinbase. So Stand With Crypto, they basically take donations from people in crypto. And then they they sent you, like, a, like, a little NFT. It was, like, appreciation. Right? And what they do is... Well, essentially, that's why crypto was still... Was represented at the last elections. Right? That's why, you know, we had so much money to throw at politics to get all this stuff in our favor is because of stuff like this. And the reason why I bring it up, again, special interest. So what's going on? There's a big fight that's going on right now, if anyone's not aware, where the big banks are throwing their lobbyists and special interests, to get yield out of stable coins. Right? Because think about what a bank does. Right? Like, how do they make their money? How do they keep you trapped? Right? So if we're over here earning all this yield on stable coins, it pretty much is a direct threat to them. So right now, there's the big thing, in regulations and special interest groups. Obviously, the banks are trying to get this shit in their favor and basically ban yield on stablecoins. So that was one thing. And then the other one was... Yeah. I told you so. So I put in the the bottom right, the purple chat down there. If anyone was here yesterday, literally yesterday, I was saying pay attention to power, energy, plays, like, NNE, nano nuclear. It ran up, like, 20% the other day, and it ran again 10% today. And then, you know, it just went on a tear. But I did throw a top here just so you guys can look. You know, I've been saying for a long time now. Right? Pay attention to WagMe. It's an index of the miners. So in particular, Iron, as you can see here from the the Iron post, they're they're pivoting, like, big time into AI, cloud business structures, multiyear contracts with leading AI companies, you know, with a little company called NVIDIA. And they actually got the preferred partner status of NVIDIA. So, you know, when when, you know, people tend to pay attention to anything that's partnering with, you know, the top number one AI company in... On Earth called NVIDIA. So... Yeah. Yeah. Just paying attention to all those energy plays, power, AI, crypto. And, yeah, pay attention to the the laws that... At least special interest groups. You know, these banks, you know, don't don't count them out. They still got plenty of money to to lobby and bribe politicians in their favor.
[1:01:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Great great great stuff. I just wanted to add on that a a little bit before we go to land because we we wanna mention these things early, right, not after they ran. So you... You've done a really good job with that. So speaking of of being early guys, you know how, I believe I mentioned this yesterday and last week as well. You know how gold is running and silver... It's silver began its run too. The third one to run is usually oil and natural gas. They haven't started their move yet. So if you're looking into oil and natural gas, it'll be worth to have these stocks like Oxy, USO, and all of these things in your watch list. So that way, we can keep an eye on them. Because usually, if the cycles repeat themselves like we're seeing now, oil and natural gas are set to run next.
[1:02:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good stuff, Nat. Landy, go for it.
[1:02:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I wanted to, because you brought up voting on the blockchain in the administration because this is a massive, massive push. You know, one of the big things to pay attention to is, any upcoming pilots. And, you know, there is, one specific, department of government efficiency that is still actively looking into, ways in which they could create partnerships with the US government and, you know, suggestions for partnerships and who to partner with to push forward, you know, blockchain based voting. And then, of course, they need... You need the the other type of infrastructure, you know, where some might be familiar with Voatz or voatz. It's it's spelled differently. It's v o a t z, I believe, is is one of the bigger ones that has already been piloted. But one of the reasons why it it was important to pay attention to those types of platform, not saying them specifically, but, you know, their their mobile app, was was already piloted. They have, secure ballot storage biometric verification, and they have audit trails and stuff like that already done. But there's... When they do eventually get there with this, pay very close attention to their partnerships. Just like, you know, very early, you know, last week when Nat was talking about the AMD stuff in NVIDIA, you know, AMD and OpenAI and some of the other stuff that's going on in in the different aspects of who's partnering with who. This is gonna be a very big thing to pay attention to. And and a lot of the times, Dave, Cole, and Matt, you're way ahead of the game in informing the audience on this stuff. This is gonna be a big one because it's going to affect... Especially whenever this stuff is kind of laid down and and pilots are beginning and The United States on a larger scale may be coming into the twenty six election, hint hint, you might see a few things. This is where you want to kinda focus on who's partnering with who because they will get massive amounts of investment. That's where you can actually get in on the public side or even the private side depending on which change they're running on and, like, all that kind of stuff if you do wanna identify some of that opportunity. And I'll give you a little hint. They've explored potentially some, I don't know, some some Cardano, some x integration, some Hyperledger integration. And I I keep hearing that... How do you how do you say it, Matt? It's a h e Hera. Oh, Hera. Oh, okay. Yeah. Blockchain based voting. They seem
[1:05:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: to have a little bit of
[1:05:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: a focus on some of that stuff over there. Now look. Nothing's concrete right now, and it can shift at any moment. But this... There's major stuff that is globally... It it will have global implications, so definitely pay attention.
[1:05:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Alright. Alright.
[1:05:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Dave Dave, don't don't do that, Dave.
[1:05:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Chill out, bro. Alright? Listen. If there... People are gonna start posting videos of me. Alright? Take it easy. Thank god not here. Thank god Millie left. I would've never heard you, and I hope you didn't see that video. Oh my god. By the way, you know, x factor, you and Gex are gonna get kicked out of this one. I I was about to accept a a campaign on on Tunnel. It was called Fleek AI.
[1:05:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, please don't, bro. Your branding was never recovered.
[1:05:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. I swear to god it was called Fleek AI.
[1:05:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, boy.
[1:05:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm like, if I post this on my account, I'm like, it's not worth the $25. You're cooked. Yeah.
[1:05:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:05:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're not on Fleek?
[1:05:59] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: What's up, bro?
[1:06:01] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, is that is that associated with, like, the... It's, like, an aversal knockoff, essentially?
[1:06:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I don't even know. Brett, I don't even know. I didn't even give it a second look. I just thought about how bad I would get cooked in the timeline, and I just, you know, abort. I was like, oh, I I... Because, of course, I accept it immediately, and then I'm like, wait a minute. No. No. No. I'm definitely not accepting this. Thank you.
[1:06:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: As a as a pro flicker as a pro flicker, I would tell you that you shouldn't have aborted that particular contract. You could have used that $25 and reinvested it to become Fleak and Fly because
[1:06:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Fly is next.
[1:06:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: When when they start dropping Fly Fly AI, bro, you're gonna be printing.
[1:06:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, Fly AI might be a thing. If And it's not, somebody should get on that. That's for sure.
[1:06:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is fleek no longer a word? I'm I'm, you know, I'm young at Jake.
[1:06:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bless your heart, Nat.
[1:06:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. The back back in the
[1:06:50] Moni @monitalan: day, traveled, like, two
[1:06:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: when I was, like, two or three because I'm not that old. Right? Fleek was a thing. It was, like, all over.
[1:06:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Do you were on fleek with your little two year old your little two year old kicks? You had your
[1:07:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: I was on fleek with my kid. What do you mean?
[1:07:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did you jump on your longboard and, like, go down by the bay and and then go skating? And everybody says you were on fleek.
[1:07:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: My my... When I was two, I was in The Caribbean, so my bathing suit was definitely on fleek, guys. Okay?
[1:07:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is where Coleman normally chimes in and
[1:07:24] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: goes, yeah. Dave's in Williamsburg. He's a hipster. Get on the l train. Coleman, you've been quiet,
[1:07:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: bro. You're scaring me.
[1:07:30] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: What's up? A hipster, though. I saw the scarfs. That's tough. I saw the scarf collection.
[1:07:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hey, Dave. Do you own a do you own a pair of Vans by any chance?
[1:07:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I actually don't, bro. There's no way I would ever buy a pair
[1:07:42] Bread @_ToastMalone: of Vans.
[1:07:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's insanity, bro.
[1:07:43] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: That is crazy.
[1:07:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're so He's
[1:07:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: a New Yorker, so he definitely has a pair of j's to match every t shirt he has. Right?
[1:07:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: That is a fact. That is... Or was a fact. Yeah.
[1:07:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Salmon. It's salmon. Or is it coral?
[1:07:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: First off, it was Peach, and that was my first time, okay, moderating a panel at East Denver. Alright? Let me live, bro. Let me live. I'm trying to build the brand out here. Okay? And peach, salmon, whatever coral, whatever you wanna call it, is is audience friendly. That's nice. It's nice to look at. You know?
[1:08:14] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It is.
[1:08:14] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's it's got the shit's got the warm tones that says, hey. I'm approachable.
[1:08:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Exactly. It's just like, you know, like, when you have, like, the the the gray... A little bit of gray in the beard. It's, like, distinguished. Right? So you combine that with salmon. It's like, I'm a killer out here on the stage. You know? So let let me live. Yo, man. Fudu, can you see what they do to me out here, bro? I'm the host of the show, and they freaking... They're cooking me all day every day.
[1:08:37] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm... I feel like I'm at a yacht rock concert.
[1:08:40] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: You're ringing some style, and and they just shut it up.
[1:08:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's crazy it's crazy work out here.
[1:08:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dave is just styling and profiling right now.
[1:08:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. That that just shows how old she is. You heard that?
[1:08:52] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: She says styling and profiling.
[1:08:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: They said how old that? Adjacent. Let's call it that. Young adjacent.
[1:08:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Young adjacent, my ass. Young adjacent. Okay. I wanna go. Brian, I shot you the invite... Oh, Brian's up here. Okay, Brian. Hang on one second. I just wanna cover this this g... This g story. Does anybody know... Like, what's the deal with this? I didn't know Ponz was back. I guess he got his account back. I don't know when that was. But now... Like, what's the deal?
[1:09:20] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Like, would would would you... The account got hacked? It's compromised, bro. So, like, they put in a they put in a a CA for a shitcoin, and anything that you interact with the account or whatever the case may be is fake, obviously, and, you know, the hacker is making money. So do not interact with that account until they communicate further. Actually, probably just stay away from it for a while, to be honest.
[1:09:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, that's what I'm saying. Pons Pons put out saying we got the account back. He said they're back. So, I mean, yeah. Oh, did he do it recently?
[1:09:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Okay. I didn't see that. I mean, that that thing was gone though for, like, three, four hours, bro. And and
[1:09:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: and That's enough. Right?
[1:09:54] xFactor @xFactorPOL: The shitcoin was cooking ridiculously enough.
[1:09:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's kinda crazy. That is kinda nuts. I mean, we didn't report on this last time. Like, we missed it, but Disney also got hacked on Instagram, and somebody put up an account, a CA for... I don't know what the hell it was.
[1:10:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's the Lana Kogan?
[1:10:12] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Cinderella or something, the trigger.
[1:10:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Disney getting hacked is amazing.
[1:10:20] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Why are laughing at at Disney's misfortunes, Dave?
[1:10:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, because that is absolutely hysterical because you have to be the dumbest hacker in the world to think that, like, the Disney audience is gonna be the audience that's gonna look at that and say, oh, let me go buy this token as if they have any idea. They don't know their ass.
[1:10:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I can show you the rugs.
[1:10:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Exactly.
[1:10:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm just like I'm just imagining v... VV Magic going, how do I even bridge to that network to buy this token?
[1:10:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mom, quit giving me $20. I need
[1:10:47] xFactor @xFactorPOL: to buy into this thing. I don't know where it is.
[1:10:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm surprised I didn't get a text message from her. She would have been like, I got something from d twenty three saying something about a a fleek Cinderella token. I'm like, what? No. No. No.
[1:11:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: They said it's gonna fly.
[1:11:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: So it's gonna...
[1:11:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Maybe it fly.
[1:11:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Anyways, styling and profiling. You said that shit, Matt. Oh my god. You're need to
[1:11:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: chase it.
[1:11:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't care what anybody says or what we're thinking. Right? I am 25. That is my story, and I'm sticking to it.
[1:11:17] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Alright. Who here still listens to the Sugar Hill Gang guy to go to sleep?
[1:11:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: With a lie. That's how this works, Lisa. You die with a lie.
[1:11:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did you see, Dave, did you see what, that whole Jupiter, thing with the intern that he posted, that photo of... I think her name is Amy.
[1:11:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I went back and I actually read what you guys... That... The the telenovela you guys put in the chat. I don't know. I was asleep for an hour. I don't know how you guys write so much. But, yeah, I actually spoke with Amy a few weeks ago when I pitched... Like, they had some Solana thing going... They have, like, some Solana, like, hackathon going on now. So I pitched it to Robinhood, but she was super lovely. She was in, like, super polite, like, amazing person. Like, the fact that, like, they... Like, that was crazy. People, like, need to... Like, these come... They need to chill out. Look. They... Like, there's a certain extent you can go in web three, but you wanna hire the intern and blah blah blah, but understand who it is that you're hiring and put some rails in place so that they're not, like, saying some really, really just dumb shit because that was insane. I'm sorry. Like, don't put people's likeness on x. Don't start making comparisons. Leave people's likeness. This is a little bit fresh, obviously. Leave people's likeness off of x. Okay? Just don't do it. Like, leave it alone. But, yeah, I thought that was crazy.
[1:12:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What what is your likeness to date?
[1:12:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't worry about it, gamer. Nobody fill gamer in on anything. Do you understand me? Okay? Like, gamer, if you want that info, then you have to show up on.
[1:12:49] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You know? Alright? Had a too late.
[1:12:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: I already sent him the DM. Sorry.
[1:12:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I almost Appreciate you, Nat Nat, as always.
[1:12:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Appreciate you. Got you, gamer. I
[1:12:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: told you that.
[1:13:01] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm gonna I'm gonna do one one little quick little last comment there on on the whole thing with Amy and stuff because I had like a little knee jerk reaction. So Amy Amy is about... You know, she she lives close to me. I've met her. She's really nice. She's she's a badass. She's pretty smart at what she does as well, and she's she's established a brand. But not just Amy. Anybody in general, man. Like, if you're if you're a guy on CT and the best way to get engagement is for you to shame a woman, like, just just get out of CT, bro. Honestly, like, that's that's that's crazy work. You know what I'm saying? So PSA, any of the ladies that frequent the the speaker panel here or or engage with us in any way, if you come after them, we will find you. Just letting you know. Don't do that shit.
[1:13:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Definitely don't. And last thing I'll say right before... Fuck up, you did. Right before, I wanna welcome, obviously, Brian, and I wanna give, Metapool, obviously, the floor for the last, like, fifteen, twenty minutes is for all those, aligning, We are starting to cook. The account's growing. We have assembly number three tomorrow, and the entire billions fam is gonna be in the house. Javi's coming through. They're fresh off their mint. Don't forget, by the way, that mint closes at 11:02 eastern time tonight. They have... Bro, I'm surprised, dude. Like, they're at almost, like, 6,000 mints or something like that, bro. They're at fifty fifty six hundred out of 8,888. Right? Like, so regardless if this thing mints out or not, it's gonna be a crazy one. Obviously, aligners has a partnership with billions. We're gonna be chatting tomorrow morning what that means. We're gonna talk about updates for the Aligners ecosystem. So, yeah, I really would love everybody everybody to obviously come through.
[1:14:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: What time is it? What time is it?
[1:14:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: 9AM eastern time. I'll I'll
[1:14:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: pick it up
[1:14:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: at top.
[1:14:42] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Nine in the morning. Unbelievable, dude.
[1:14:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. I gotta... We gotta appeal to the euro crowd also. Like, we're not thinking about your dumbass in traffic, bro. You know what
[1:14:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm saying?
[1:14:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Nine in the morning.
[1:14:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, shit. Yeah.
[1:14:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just saying. Like, it's just, you know, like, it is what it is.
[1:14:56] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Bro goes to Canada one time and thinks he's a badass because people are writing moose and shit over there.
[1:15:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's come back. Speaking French.
[1:15:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, but
[1:15:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: He does speak French.
[1:15:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's... That that was a lady. That was... If that was that was like a dad joke almost, Landy. Was like
[1:15:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dad joke right over my head. I'm I'm sorry.
[1:15:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's alright. That's okay.
[1:15:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Dev.
[1:15:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Listen. Don't do... You see what x factor just told me? Don't do
[1:15:29] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Don't do
[1:15:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't... Yeah. Don't do none of that. Oh my god. That sound terrible. It's, like, worse than the Canadian French. Oh my goodness. But x factor, nice work, by the way, on the on the massive climb up. I like it. The hold my beer actually worked, bro. So congrats. I see you cooking up the leaderboard. I wanna see you hire. I wanna see everybody hire hire, not hire. But cool. To your question, yes. I get 700 DMs every single morning.
[1:15:57] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Can you get me where I'm at another deal?
[1:15:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, like, you don't... I'm like, how do I maximize this for engagement? And then the best is when you leave people out, then they start commenting. They're like, but where am I? But where am I? I'm like, yes. Engage. Yeah. What
[1:16:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: you could do is you you you could... You could host a space and just for... He said, oh, only once... Maybe once a month or whatever or once a week, and there was a space. Hey. Do you wanna know what's your lead lead... Leader or rank is? Come to space, and I'll I'll hold you guys up. And you you you cannot get it off the Apollo, bro. Your your pay is gonna explode that weekend. Don't know. It's just a little tough there.
[1:16:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I like that.
[1:16:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Are you still charging the 50, Dave?
[1:16:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Am I still what?
[1:16:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Charging the 50? The $50?
[1:16:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Damn right. I'm charging the $50.
[1:16:41] ꧁VoodooKing ꧂ @VoodooKingX: Of course. You're the only
[1:16:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: one I give a free pass to. You and the ex VAT over the ATC peeps. You know, everybody else I'm charging at least $50. But then somebody's like, the other 26 undercuts me like coma. He's like, oh, no, guys. Just use my referral code. You know what I mean? He's like, just ask me. I'll do it for, like, half of what Dave's charging. I'm like, what the... Yeah. Now he's alive. You see? Of course. Now he's awake.
[1:17:01] xFactor @xFactorPOL: First emoji, the host, Jared. He's like, yep. I'm here.
[1:17:03] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I just wanna clarify here. You just... You never was like, hey. Coma's here. Let him do an intro. You could just kinda kinda glanced over me. So I was just waiting for that moment, but, you know, it's okay. It's okay. I didn't wanna call you up, but, you know, you were saying my name,
[1:17:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: like, four times.
[1:17:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Between you and Meta Beast, I swear. To respond. If you show up halfway into the show, let me just be clear with everybody, the show doesn't stop to say, wait a minute. Let me just throw the break... The e brake on this and say hello to my friends. Although I normally actually do that out of courtesy for most of you people. Okay? I didn't... Did... I'm not a...
[1:17:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Yeah. I would never do something. So there's some special privileges that you need to, like, abide by, sir. So... You know what? Anyways, thank you. I am Chase Puma. I am number one on the turtle leader board. Apparently, that's what people always, you know, shame me about. But it also says it's not Tizkoma or other... Or no Tizkoma. One way or another, you know, it's me or not him. I don't know. But overall, yeah, everything's looking good. I don't know. Did you guys talk about Arbitrum? Arbitrum and the massive amount of money that they're gonna give away?
[1:18:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Coma, get get her on time, Coma.
[1:18:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Gamer, you need to... Seriously, this is like the blind leading the blind out here. Like, get out of here. Like, no comment. We didn't talk about arbitration.
[1:18:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Let's stop
[1:18:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. We're gonna get order in this courtroom right now. Sloth, help me. Okay? Listen. I wanna get to the Metapool guys. I told them we're gonna allow... Give them the floor. I wanna hear what they got to say. I hear about what they're cooking, what they're doing. And then, yeah, $700,000 in rewards on Arbitrum. Great. Fantastic. Everyone go earn some money. Coma's probably gonna beat you at it, but good luck trying to make the leaderboard. There's money, blah blah blah. And great. Yes. Yes. Yes.
[1:18:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm excited. I'm excited about this speaker today. So let's
[1:18:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: let's let's do that. Let's go. Brian, welcome, man. How are you, my brother? Sorry for, yeah, all of my... Yeah. Just everybody. It's just whatever. But welcome, bro. What's up, man?
[1:19:06] Voice C: Hey. Hey, man. No worries at all. I think it was a funny conversation just listening here. Well, hi, everyone. My first time here, so thanks for the invitation. We are Metapool, a liquid staking protocol that is governed by a DAO. So we like all permission listing. We like make money for sure, but we also like to secure the network. And there was some very interesting points that some of the speakers already mentioned. I guess, Land mentioned things about being validator. By the way, it was like Hugh Trump talking about validators because the voice meant maybe sounded a bit to me like Trump, but... Well, never mind. Talking... Going back to the serious thing, validators. We have great things with validators. We have programs for professional note operators. In case you are a serious validator, that's a door open for you. You can message me after the space later also. And we have something cool that I will share with you guys, but it's called Node Studio also. But I'm not coming here to to talk much about it. But since you guys already mentioned, I like to show you some opportunities there. It's pretty cheap, and it's really, really nice in the upside. And, also, thinking yourself as a validator, like, it's another conversation with your community, with maybe business. So it gives you upside to escalate more opportunities. And it's on near. So you guys have been talking about tokenization, but also AI. You know? One of the biggest enterprises at this moment is NVIDIA, and AI is booming. So the only blockchain that is focusing on AI use around AI, it's near. So I think the most easiest way to get exposure by this sector on crypto, it's Metapool because we reward our token holders for participating in governance with ST NIR, which is the liquid staking token of NIR. And this token has so many use cases like collateral to have some bucks to buy or trade or do whatever you want. Maybe have a nice vacation. You know? Go to Raven. That shit with... Without need to sell. So that's the cool thing. So so... Yeah. Because, you know, guys, we we are long long term holders here, and I hear so many long term builders here. So that's that's nice. That's why I like the vibe. And beside of that, for those regions, we have a trading competition, which I will not call trading competition. I mean, trade just to call the tension of the regions, but it's more like farm. In case you like airdrops, there was massive one called Ria. Ria got an airdrop season one that was deployed, was crazy. They give you money just to do what you used to do, swap tokens, liquidity, the traditional thing. But right now, the season two is coming. And the best way to get more points and get rewards for the upcoming airdrop is to buy MPDAU on Ria. Every buy, it's like a trade. It's that is the action call, the trade. So you don't need to be an expert or pro trader on futures or whatever. You don't need too much skills just to participate. You can buy, sell, buy, sell, and you are accumulating tickets. The tickets can be claimed as near rewards. So you have rewards for the short term, like in the same week and also for the long term because you are accumulating points on Ria. And these points will mean more allocation of the upcoming airdrop. So there are so many opportunities for that. And also, if you like the prices that you bought, which is a pretty awesome and useful token, you can look on m p... On Metapool, and you can you can get a passive income. Honestly, from my personal experience, I get from, like, $102,100 monthly, and my investment was not much, but I got great timing. So it's really nice to have a passive income, like, that it's not just dollars because in my country, I am from Peru, by the way, and it's such an irony, guys. Often, the dollar goes up against the other coins. Right? But here in Peru, it's going vice versa. It's the Peruvian sol, it's going up against the dollar. So it's crazy because I can't hold much my dollars. I need to trade with the local currency and also the crypto. So it's like I need to trade. I need to be active. If I stay inactive, I lose money. So it's pretty wide. I'm even holding gold, silver and some ST near tokens and also some other currencies like Yuan. But but, yeah, still, we we need to do these things. So the passive incomes for me are like a very useful escape because the validator give me rewards and also the MPDOW, Metapool give me rewards. How this works? Basically, imagine Metapool as Tesla, like... Or many... Or maybe Coca Cola. So they share the revenue, a part of the revenue to the token holders. Like... And they have earning calls. Right? Here, we have something better. We have governance calls. If you got a nice idea, maybe you saw the governance of all the protocol and you say, hey. These guys have a nice idea, maybe bad execution, but this can work for you. So you can propose that to the community. You can make it happen. You can make change in the DAO. And also, you get paid to do that, just to participate in the governance. Every month, every three of the month, you get the percentage of your tokens that... Of the total revenue goes in percentage for you. It's like Metapool gets a cake and depending on how much you hold on tokens, but not only that, how long is your commitment. For example, how long you lock your tokens. If you lock your tokens for thirty days, you got a multiplier. But if you lock for the... For example, 300, it means you are very committed, very skinny the game. So you get a multiplier of five. It means if you put like $1,000 in tokens, it could reflect a potential advantage of $5,000 for example, in representation of your participation in the DAO. We are not talking about much USD value, but more like the token representation. So if one month, Metapool gets of revenue $1,000,000 this $1,000,000 is shared with the community. The 65% goes to the community. So if the next month, maybe we get 10,000,000 the $10,000,000 the 65% goes to the community and the 15% left goes to growth operations and keep doing this. So yes, please, Nat, go ahead.
[1:27:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just one question. With regards to the pools and how... And the terms, is there a minimum?
[1:27:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: So if you wanna invest in the one that that we can hold the longest, like, three hundred days, what would be the minimum or the maximum for that one?
[1:27:33] Voice C: Yeah. It will depend on your chain, but mostly the things that we are doing are on Near. So Near is pretty cheap. You can buy, like, $5, $10, even $1 of MPDL. But, yeah, I will suggest at least 5 or $10 to start your journey for three hundred days. So so, yeah, basically that. And only with that, you get the voting power. And the next step will be