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Episode · Oct 15, 2025

All Things Crypto: Coinbase listing $BNB - Quack NFT?

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Wednesday show hosted by Dave with Kool, NatNat, AlphaGamer, Moni, Kkoma, Landy, Samara, xFactor, Pandera and Bukat. The first half is the upcoming Wallchain Quack NFT: Kool compares it to the Kaito NFT (minted for a few hundred dollars, peaked around $32K, holders got airdrop multipliers) and expects a small supply of roughly 1,000-1,500 tied to early badges or top Quackers; Kool and xFactor discuss selling into a big launch-day spike and buying back later, Moni flags Seat as another InfoFi platform (no credit for replies) and Myriad. Kkoma explains the Turtle snapshot and how a DAO injected about $19M to take the top leaderboard spot. Dave opens the Coinbase listing BNB story; Kool says 'if you can't beat them, join them', NatNat frames it as collaboration at the top and better liquidity on both sides, and AlphaGamer doubts a Binance IPO and wants proof of reserves. Dave covers Paxos mistakenly minting and burning about 300 trillion PYUSD, and AlphaGamer warns about weak PayPal account security and SIM swaps. NatNat brings Kalshi odds of a 77% chance of three 2025 rate cuts; Landy thinks two is a fairer median and gives a long lesson on bracketing a range with a swing long and swing short, funding rates, hedge mode on spot and splitting size across exchanges; NatNat compares it to an options straddle. AlphaGamer covers the BlackRock/NVIDIA $40B data center acquisition and the AI power and energy theme, naming CleanSpark as one to watch. It closes on OpenSea's biggest month since 2021 and SEA token speculation. Market talk is discussion, not advice.

On the mic
DaveNatNatKoolLandyMoniKkomaAlphaGamerSamara
Chapters
Wallchain Quack NFT vs the Kaito NFT playbook; hold or sell a launch spike
Seat and Myriad as other InfoFi farms
Personal mindshare leaderboards and early-Quacker mint access
Coinbase lists BNB: collaboration, liquidity, Binance IPO doubts, proof of reserves
Turtle snapshot, DAO with $19M tops the leaderboard, OG Discord role allocations
Paxos mints and burns 300T PYUSD; PayPal account security
Kalshi prices 77% odds of three 2025 rate cuts
Landy on bracket trades, funding rates, hedge mode and spreading size across exchanges
BlackRock/NVIDIA $40B data center deal, AI power stocks, CleanSpark
OpenSea's biggest month since 2021; SEA token speculation
Transcript
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# All Things Crypto: Coinbase listing $BNB - Quack NFT? | 2025-10-15 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1yNxabRnPNWKj | status: approved
# Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed.

[0:01:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: What up, Matt? Better be Batman.
[0:01:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: The world ain't ready for you to be a billionaire, bro.
[0:02:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Matt, if anybody gives me shit about opening up minutes late, we're finding people for later tardiness from now on. That's it.
[0:02:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm done.
[0:02:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: A bullshit.
[0:03:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: God
[0:03:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: save the queen.
[0:03:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Crucifixio. The difference in the every nine
[0:03:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: hour. Let's go.
[0:03:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys could be billionaires too if you use Monica's referral code.
[0:03:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Use Monty's referrals. I wanna be a billionaire so fucking bad.
[0:03:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: He has the sound bite ready. Yes. I like when you come prepared, mother beast. I very much like it when you come prepared. Where the... Nat, where is everybody? I'm gonna lose my mind. This is it. I'm kinda... Whatever. I'm not really that upset about it, but whatever. Is what it is. Mute me on the bounty. Mute me on the bounty. Nah. What's going on?
[0:04:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think we... I'm good. A busy, busy day doing some, IR stuff, but I'm excited to be here. I mean, there's been a lot moving in crypto, a lot of news, lately, and I'm excited to dive into this one. With regards to where everyone's at, they are busy posting aligners. That's what it is.
[0:04:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why are you making... You are HR. You are not supposed to be making excuses for everybody. Okay? Did you see this shit that I put out today? I literally did a full audiogram, like, thread, part one, mind you. I did a full podcast recap. Come on now. If I have the time, You see what I did?
[0:04:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Listening to it. There... It's like it's like it's like a whole 15 paragraph long. They're reading it.
[0:04:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're listening to it.
[0:04:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: They're gonna reply.
[0:04:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Right. As if anybody reads anything nowadays I did a singer too. Yeah. Hey. For the record, I wanna give you your props. Well, me my props first for motivating your fucking lazy ass, number one. Number two, that's probably the best engagement you've got in an aligners post ever. Am I correct or no? Yeah. Exactly. I'm brilliant for thinking of it. Yes. You are. Yes. You are. I will give you full credit for that. I told you, there is gold in that brain. You just need to figure out how to get it out. Now if I could just only figure out how to get you to actually take my feedback and get rid of the long fucking AI dashes, that would be great if you'd listen to that.
[0:05:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: I did. I did.
[0:05:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. No. You didn't, but it's fine.
[0:05:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. I did. What long I am It's only three minutes into the show, guys, I've and already had
[0:05:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: do it. You can't be playing baby sounds in the background as if you have a baby. You're 25. Okay? 25 year olds in America today don't have babies. It's it's a lie. Guys, we've been lied to this whole time. That is not Yeah. They're already grown up and having their own kids. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Ridiculous. Yo. Shout out to d and true media. They have Monica on yesterday. I don't I don't know why with Meta Beast. It was ridiculous. It was crazy. There was slander everywhere, but, actually, it was kind of informative if you're new to this entire space. Moni, what's up? Great. Great. Great stream last night with Meta Beast and with Dee. I loved it.
[0:06:18] Moni @monitalan: Thank you. Even the tunnel fact... Part? No. Wasn't that your favorite part of the whole chat? No. Not the... No.
[0:06:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not the tunnel plan.
[0:06:28] Moni @monitalan: It wasn't slander. It was being honest. Anyway, just kidding. I just... You know, I don't really do tunnel. You know, trying to figure out when all the t g's are happening? I told you Wallchain was gonna be an NFT. Turtle took their snapshot. I couldn't do my Infify data yesterday, so I was very sad. I'm gonna try it again today.
[0:06:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: And I wish the turtle I wish the turtle snapshot was a little bit sooner. You know?
[0:06:55] Moni @monitalan: I'm so sad that it was sooner, but it's okay.
[0:06:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's my one Monica Riz in probably, like, I can't tell you how long. Like, that... That's that's it. That's all I got. Yeah. That... That's that's payback for for for for Tunnel. Cool. What's good, bro?
[0:07:12] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. What's up, guys? What's man? Happy Wednesday. Let's go. Pretty pretty sure. Let's do it. That that that was up, I guess, to all of you. Dave, what's up?
[0:07:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's going on? Let's do it. Let's go. Cool. By the way, I got a message about you yesterday late last night at, like, 11:40 from the aligners account from Roger saying, your cohost cool is number eight on our leaderboard. And I'm like, bro, you've been asleep or what? Like, I don't understand. Like, where you... Where where you been at? What are you doing? Like, we... Like, bro, my whole ATC crew is literally sprinkled everywhere on your leaderboard. What do you not understand about this? He's like, I didn't know. I didn't... Bro, throw a dart at the board, hit a name, and I promise you, it's a good chance that you're gonna land on an ATC member. Okay? So, put some respect on our names out here to help. Anyways... But it was a great assembly today too. Monica, I'd like you to deliver tiger. Yeah. Exactly. Monica, I'd like you to deliver a message to Javi. I'm upset. Tell him that he's never gonna be able to ask me out on a date again. I'm never gonna say yes because he stood me up twice now. And... No. I'm mad now. Now I'm mad. Stayed up all night to hear Javi. What? I mean, you did. Right? Oh, man. That's not right, Meta Beast. Why can't why can't
[0:08:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, which one... I'm so confused that Meta Beast, which Javier you're talking about?
[0:08:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: On this on this space last night. In all fairness, I'll defend Meta Beast done this one. I said literally on the livestream, they were like, oh, because Monica was talking about Javi and, obviously, like, with billions and yada yada. I was like, oh, we're gonna have them on the on the show tomorrow morning. Like an idiot that he said that. But I guess I should have probably, like, confirmed for a second time. But, yeah, apparently, people are a little bit too busy. This is why I'm saying to you guys. Listen. There's time to maneuver out here. Okay? We're gonna get our quack NFTs. We're gonna cover that obviously today. Hopefully, everybody added their address. Dee, I'm gonna kill you if you didn't. I hope that you did. I think she said she did. Yeah. And Monica was right. They She's good to go. Alright. Good. Good. Good. Good. They are quack NFTs. So let's maybe kinda kick off with that. What are these? Like, I I asked it on the space this morning. Cool. Well, like, what do the NFTs mean? Because I actually don't remember... Because I got into Kaito, maybe it was, like, five or six days before, like, TGE if I remember. I I remember actually where I was, but I don't remember the NFT drop. Can you, like, shed some light on why the NFT dropped yet?
[0:09:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So it's it's important because if we if we base base it on how Kaito did did theirs... The NFT drop was pretty good, man. I think it it got to autumn how, like, $32,000, miss. If you if you got the drop and you sold the top, you you cast out 32 k from the the NFT. And plus, they also... They use... I think they use the the NFT holders for criteria for the for the the the the first, you know, season one airdrop for Kaito. Yeah. No. No. I think it's... I mean, I I I I was hoping... You know, she was wrong, but she was correct. Big big of Monica. She's probably an insider. She she nailed it a 100%, so she has she has alpha. But... Yeah. No. No. No. I I think I think it's a good thing, man. I think it's probably gonna be similar to with with Kai told. They're gonna call it NFT. I'm assuming maybe because the... A a a of their NFT, only 1,500 people have access or or got access to mince... The the the the initial NFTs. And I'm assuming maybe the top 1,000 crackers. I don't know what criteria they're gonna use, but I'm sure maybe
[0:10:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: It wouldn't be the early buyers.
[0:10:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: Cool. It could it could be, man. It could be early buyers. I don't know. Like, this stuff, it's... We'll just... We we have to wait and see. But it it could be top top top 1,000 crackers. It could be the top 1,000 early, you know, gold badge holders. But the NFC will play a big role. It's... They're probably gonna pop like crazy. But I don't know. I I think they're probably just doing the same thing that Kryto did. And I think it's a... If if you could get it, I think you should get it. But I think it's probably gonna pop off at the beginning because wall chain is the hype is crazy right now. But they've actually... They they might not have the same user base as Kaito, but they have probably a lot more attention on Kaito right now just because of the NFT launch and all these protocols coming out and, you know, and and the rumors are airdrops. So that NFT is gonna is gonna be big... It's gonna be a big deal. So... Yeah.
[0:11:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I saw money money. One second. I saw Metabeast throw the old face up. Mellow Beast, you didn't know that it went to $34,000, did you? The Kaito NFT. No. I remember you guys talking somewhat about it, that it was doing well, but I... Not that well. And does nobody see? Does nobody see? What? Look at me. I... We see your BFP. I get it.
[0:12:18] Moni @monitalan: Okay. Okay. I'm just saying.
[0:12:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think he wants acknowledgement. You're doing such a great job. I see your PFP. We see everything that you're doing, all the hard
[0:12:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: work. Anyone... Thank you. But Yes. Never mind. Exactly. See who else has done that? When she when play cases. I thought, oh, great. Meta Beast, eighth place trophies. Nah. I just tell you more. More. More. From that, that, I'll take it.
[0:12:44] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What the hell?
[0:12:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: But I I feel like that was such a mom and dad conversation because you know how moms are like, no. It's okay, honey. Everything will be alright. You got eight plays as long as you have fun. Yeah. They was like, no. Eight plays trophy.
[0:12:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see? Leave us alone next time we go to the Coldplay concert, x factor. Monie, what's up? Go for it. God, I wish I had one.
[0:13:08] Moni @monitalan: I already totally got lost on the conversation, but no. So I'm hearing 1,000 too cool. I don't know if that's what's... What it's gonna be. Maybe it's a combination of if you have the early badge and then the top 1,000. I'm trying to move up. I'm, 600 or 500 and something. So we'll see. I don't wanna go down. I don't want what happened on Turtle to happen with me here, but it should... I don't know if they already took the snapshot. They got the wallet, but I don't know when they're doing the snapshot.
[0:13:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, wait a minute. I don't even know... Hold up. I don't even know where I am. On... It's on the wall chain leaderboard. Right? What the hell? I I mean, I
[0:13:47] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah.
[0:13:47] Moni @monitalan: The wall chain leaderboard. I
[0:13:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: am Oh.
[0:13:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Whole
[0:13:51] Moni @monitalan: chain. Where are you, Cole? Cole must be way
[0:13:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: up there. Gotta be, like, top performers and shit.
[0:13:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Cole, where you at?
[0:13:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shoot. Hold on. He's probably...
[0:14:01] Moni @monitalan: I'm five twenty nine.
[0:14:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let me see.
[0:14:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat, where are you? And, Nat, you don't need me for this one, by the way. This one's public.
[0:14:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: I I... Cole is 56 and moving up. Probably, like, below a thousand.
[0:14:21] Moni @monitalan: Look at Cole being 56.
[0:14:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where's Cole at? 56? Damn. Cole? Holy cow. How do I check? Where?
[0:14:28] Moni @monitalan: Wait. Cole left?
[0:14:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. He's coming back. He's coming back. He just... He's probably just on his... What's it called? On the... Alright. Here's something.
[0:14:35] Moni @monitalan: She fell one. Oh, you're number 81, Dave.
[0:14:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, let's go, Mody. Nice. Really?
[0:14:42] Moni @monitalan: So I need to... Yeah. I mean, Jampson is 94. You're kidding, Jampson.
[0:14:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Suck it, Jampson. I mean... Yeah.
[0:14:49] Moni @monitalan: Don't say that.
[0:14:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, no. No. I... We we welcome everybody. Nice work. Okay. I like this. I like it. It's... Yeah. I can't imagine them not... Like, if you got an early badge, that's gotta be something. Right? I think that... I don't know how many they dished out, but, like, they dished those out pretty early, if I remember correctly. And now that cool's back, cool, I I just wanna ask you really quick before I say what's up to X Factor is... And and Pandora. What's the strategy here? Because you didn't sell yours when this shit went crazy. I don't think you had one actually in in the the beginning, beginning, but let's just say that you did because this circumstance is different. I remember you bought yours when it came down off of the highs on cut... The the the yappy... The the Capybara. So what do you... What is the strategy going into this here? Would you hold it? Right? Like, do you... If it it does does crazy numbers, we're like, what what what are you thinking going into this? What's the strategy? Mhmm.
[0:15:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: Man, I I I I got mine on open markets. Like, I bought, like, at, like, $2,500, I think. I I have broken even because all the airdrops I've received, but I think it might be a good idea to probably sell prop... Probably, especially if it's if it's if it's... If it does come out and does some crazy numbers, man. I think the Kai to NFT, I can't remember. I think the mint price was, like, couple $100, and it went to 32,000, man. People bought it. People bought it at 32 k. So if you do see, you know, the NFC selling for this high, it might be a good idea to to probably sell it and maybe come back and buy it later. Of course, holding the the water NFC is probably gonna be similar to Kaito. You you probably gonna get a multiplier or more airdrops by by by being a holder. But if if I... If it if it comes down and it doesn't go too crazy, I'm gonna hold it. If it does go crazy, it might be a good idea to sell it because I because I I don't think I've seen any NFT projects come out from any protocol and maintain that high value. I I haven't seen it. I mean, even the the the the Ponzi Penguins pumped to over 180 k and came down came down to freaking $20.28 28,000 or 30,000. So if this NFT comes out and it does do crazy numbers, they might... I'm probably gonna sell them. I'm not gonna take take the risk because you don't wanna do that. You don't wanna hold a a, you know, a NFT people wanna buy, you know, for 4 or 5 e. Why? Why would you wanna do that? So... But, yeah, that... That's that's right.
[0:17:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Interesting. Because I was gonna say cool. I'm only... I'm coming right now. What I was gonna say cool was it might make... Like, for for those of us that are maybe not active on so many leaderboards, maybe it might not make... Like, I don't know. Right? There has to be, like, some number that you're gonna have to do some math for... Everyone's gonna have their own, like, situation. Right? So... But I I would think for you, what if it... Like, are you not thinking, like, what if it's like, yo, if you're on the leaderboards, you're getting x percent like, allocation. You know what I'm saying? Because for someone like you that is sprinkled over every single leaderboard... I mean, Genome, Limitless, Covalent, Elsa, iDot, you're everywhere, bro. So is... Does that thought not kinda cross your mind for a second where you're like... I mean, 35,000 is a different story. That's that's
[0:18:09] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Right? So so... Okay. For example, let me ask a question. So the people that that that that meant to the capture NFT, if they could go back in the past, do you think they they they will hold the NFT? They go for, I mean, $400. That thing, they waste 32 k, man, for one NFT even though you... You've got all your airdrops, but you'll... I mean, it's... You're probably better off sell... Like said, it all depends on what this thing comes comes out as, and especially, it's probably gonna be low supply. I I I... Because I think, you know, the the good thing about about about this war chain thing is because they've they've seen how Kaito launch. So they're learning from Kaito. So that's what I'm seeing. That's why I think it's probably gonna be a thousand, maybe one thousand five five hundred supply. It's gonna be high demand because, I mean, of course, like I said, advances is the biggest airdrop in info file history. A lot of people don't even realize this. This hype is gonna carry over to the NFT. There's the possibility you can mint this NFT for $3,400, and this NFT could be worth $1,520.30 k within minutes. So we'll see, though. We'll see.
[0:19:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: We'll see. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Cool has a way of getting me hype. Yo. You you miss miss me at 10:12 k. Jeep, goodbye. I'm out. Thank you. I'm out. Moni, go for it.
[0:19:32] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Two two questions. Cool. So Kaito did 1,500 NFTs. Right? But you don't get... I mean, I've seen a lot of complaints that you don't get as many benefits from the NFT as you do from staking. I don't know if that's what Wallchain plans to do as well, but I'm thinking... I don't know. Unless they come up with something really creative. I'm... I'm gonna do that. Would sell
[0:19:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Morning.
[0:19:54] xFactor @xFactorPOL: In the
[0:19:55] Moni @monitalan: 20 or 30 k.
[0:19:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, Moni, in the in the beginning, cool. And correct me if I'm wrong, but you were getting more... Just as much for the NFT as you were, I think, more maybe for staking, I believe. Like, if you had all three... If you were all three. Right? If you stake your airdrop immediately, you had the NFT, and there was maybe a third... I don't if I got with the... Cool. Maybe if you wanna share some light, but I remember the NFT being super valuable in
[0:20:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: the beginning days of Kaito.
[0:20:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. So so so the n... NFT was at the at the very beginning. Right? Very beginning. I think as time went by, you know, they... A lot of holders didn't really get as much love as the stake was did, but you do get a a multiplier. And I think, like I said before, the airdrops do accumulate. Right? So you might... I think what what happened was the re... The reason why people are complaining is because they expected a massive airdrop just by holding the NFC. But I think what... I I mean, it it wasn't a good look at the beginning. I think to me, if you bought the NFC at the bottom, you're fine. Because you paid 2 k for this thing, and you've gone in multiple multiple rewards and a multiplier by by holding NFT. The problem was a lot of people bought the NFT at the top. Those are the people that are that are getting mad. Or a lot of people that got the mint and didn't sell the top. Those are the people that are getting mad. So I'm not... I'll be able to see me complain about the... My my NFT. Never. Because I just... I bought the bottom, and I've been benefiting from from this... From... For for a long time. So it just depends on on when when you bought it. And... But if you... I'm I'm stake to Kaito. I have the NFT. I have all the apps. I'm just... I'm enjoying the... I I like to get exposure to different things so I don't miss on anything. But this wall chain one is going to be similar, very, very similar to Kaito because they they are gonna take the the... A playbook from Kaito. So I'm I'm assuming a lot of us early people will probably gonna get access to to maintenance and the team. And so I... I'm I'm assuming probably top 1,000. Top 1,000, top... Maybe 2,000 people, I'll be good too, but it should be good. It should be very, it should be good. It should be good.
[0:22:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[0:22:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know who's gonna make a lot of money off of this thing? Srini. He's number three.
[0:22:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Man, forget Srini, bro. Like, he's on every leader board, man. Forget that dude. He's
[0:22:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: number three on on Wallchain.
[0:22:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Man, the hell. Train me or whatever, man.
[0:22:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: By the way. Yeah.
[0:22:26] Moni @monitalan: Sorry. I was gonna say, don't sleep on Seat. Seat's at the... They also will be launching a token. They didn't talk about an NFT, but... And remember, they're on abstract. Myriad is on there. So if you're doing Myriad, you can earn seats. Seat is a lot harder. And one thing on seat is you don't get any seat for replies.
[0:22:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: So just keep that in mind. Is it or I don't
[0:22:52] Moni @monitalan: know. It's... Remember, I have the Spanish accent, and I can't pronounce
[0:22:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: this crap. I
[0:22:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: have an English accent, and I still can't pronounce this shit. I have no idea. Z... Anyways, x factor. What's up, bro?
[0:23:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yo. What's up, guys? Sorry. Just cutting out onto the... Walked into the house and the Internet always gets bloody, but what's going on? There's a there's a lot of crazy stuff going on with this wall chain stuff. Right? So the in my opinion, and I'm just gonna give my take, and also say hello to everybody here. Great to be here on this on the on this space. Damn, Dave. You caught me off guard. Literally walked it out. I was
[0:23:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: literally taking my time. I'll go to somebody. I'll come back. I'll come back. Go. Go do your thing. I'll come right back.
[0:23:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Go go for it, bro.
[0:23:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm You're good. I'm ready. Okay. Go for It's fun.
[0:23:37] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Not not... Yeah. Now now now now I'm ready, bro. Got... You literally got me with my pants in my hand. So, Doug, for the
[0:23:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: watch He literally got caught with his pants, though. Thank you.
[0:23:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Actually, legit. So, like, the watch chain thing, they're second to market. Right? So Kaido did it. The the advantage of being second second to market was something similar because it's it's a pretty it's a pretty similar game plan. They're gonna learn the issues that potentially Kaito had, but they don't have the first to market advantage, which is that nobody had seen this shit before. Right? They dropped an NFT. It had never been done before. I don't think it's gonna get as high as Kaito, but to Cool's point, and Moni touched on it as well, if it gets... You know, if it's a $2,300 mint and it goes for 10 racks, absolutely, in my opinion, sell immediately. And then if you really wanna buy back in, just wait couple of weeks or so. It's gonna be cheaper, then just go ahead and smack it and and buy back in and get into the ecosystem. So it doesn't mean you're not supporting the ecosystem. Right? Like, if you're still bullish on watching, you probably wanna hold it long term, but you also wanna make your bread too. Right? That's what we're here for. That's just my my honest advice there. As far as Zeke goes really quick, just to cover that. Spoke to Pawns a couple times on on Spaces, and he's made it very clear, like, if you're if you're constantly a farmer on on on on x and that's what you do and you're like, you you you have multiple projects on, the Zeet algorithm at the moment is not gonna be very rewarding or very kind to you. Right? So it's it's... It it could possibly be if you guys are actively participating in a bunch of projects that you're not gonna be very successful with Z at the moment. But that platform is very new, and it's constantly evolving. It's still worth a couple of couple of dabs, specifically with Marriott too. I think Marriott's gonna have a really good TGE. Just, just my opinion. But, anyways, happy to be here, guys, and, always great to to chill with the homies.
[0:25:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, good stuff, bro. Good stuff. Good stuff. I just saw Ned's leaderboard. Guess who's back on top, baby? It's me, Wolf Bitcoin. Thank you.
[0:25:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think your end, the leaderboard is broken. The devs have to do something because I'm all over your timeline, and I'm still
[0:25:47] Moni @monitalan: not on any time being
[0:25:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: stepping up.
[0:25:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: How how many times you want me to step... You want me to be on you like
[0:25:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: the coffee bar? Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Because yesterday, I realized... Because you know what you're doing? You're supporting referral princess over here, okay, who I found out yesterday. I don't know how this is possible though, Monica. He's not a smart follower. That's that's gotta be wrong, Monica. You're... You have to be wrong on that. You are definitely a smart follower.
[0:26:09] Moni @monitalan: I am not a smart follower. I'm not. That's Kaito.
[0:26:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm not. I may be on cookie, but I'm not on Kaito.
[0:26:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Smart cookie. That's what we'll call you. Smart cookie. Yeah. That's what I... Yeah. Like, I was saying that because you're supporting the princess or the referral princess when your smart follower buddy over here. Okay? That's what... You know, don't understand where the loyalties need to lie out here. This is crazy.
[0:26:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: But look at my page. Look at my page. They literally scroll through my page. It's it's it's you, cool, and
[0:26:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not enough me. Needs more me. Needs more me. 20%... No. Needs
[0:26:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: more me.
[0:26:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm just gonna give you my password at this
[0:26:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: point, bro.
[0:26:45] Moni @monitalan: I have a question about the leaderboard.
[0:26:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:26:49] Moni @monitalan: Isn't the leaderboard, like, the person that you're supporting the most versus the ones that are supporting? I'm just here to cause trouble.
[0:26:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Damn, babe. You gotta send
[0:27:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: me out. What? No. No. No. Monica, no. What the... When you post your personal mind share leaderboard, that is essentially who is interacting and retweeting and supporting you and your brand the most, and what percentage of your mind share on crypto Twitter is due and thanks to that person, a k a 20.34% of your mind share is me. Are you sure? What? Monica, dude. Monica needs to chill out right now. This is... I'm I'm gonna start putting people on time out. Monica, I expect this from gamer, not from you. Let me say what's up to Samara. Samara, what's good?
[0:27:40] Samara @thee_samara: Hey. GM, Dave. GM, cool. GM, Monica. Half our gamer. X factor. Bandera. Shout out to you guys.. Yeah. GM, guys, I just wanna ask. Yo. Does ATC crew get, like, the first crack at whitelist for the the mints? We should. Right? Like, we should. Obviously, we can't mint with the poor people. Like, it's not gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, please, hopefully, you know, hopefully, we get, like, mints of... A whitelist for the mints. But, yeah, man, like, it's... It should be good. It should be good. I like watching, like I said. Yeah. Although certain factors don't really benefit me, but I still I still like the protocol. So, yeah, man, let's just see what what happens. I was expecting a little bit of TGE, but, yeah, Monaco's rights is is is NFT. But, yeah, I think we're close to TGE. But, yeah, NFT first, that's a smart move. So, yeah, man, let's see what happens.
[0:28:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: What the hell? Y'all y'all are great at giving everybody kudos. I'm in my feelings today. Am I in my feelings every day? I feel like I'm in my feelings
[0:28:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: every day.... What? Speaking of kudos, I just looked at my my my watching thing, and I'm at, like, 11 quacks, and I feel so great because I've only been supporting one project. Thank you, Dave.
[0:28:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: See what I mean? Because you're welcome. Yeah. And by the way, expect I was gonna say the most Jewish thing ever before. Why do we gotta pay for the mint? Like, if we're early crackers, like, don't make me pay for the mint. You're right, Samara. What kind of bull... What kind of BS is? We help support your platform. Oh my god. I'm like one of those guys in the chat. You know, where they're like, you need to fix the algorithm, bro. It's broken. And I'm like, bro, stop with the crying because Algorithm. It's crazy. But, like, it's just... I gotta spend $200. I mean, I will gladly spend the $200. Let's be serious. But whatever. It is what it is. Anyways, let's just... Yeah. Deep thoughts. Pandara, welcome, bro. What's cooking, my bro?
[0:29:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Pandora, can you hear me? No. I never knew Pandora would be an engagement partner. Oh, hey. Hey. There he is. What's up, bro?
[0:29:42] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: Yeah. I'm cool. I'm cool, Dave. I'm just chilling. Don't mind me. I was I was probably just trying to munch something, dinner, and all that shit. You know? Shout out to you, Dave. Not not... Yeah. I'm not gonna miss you today. Every time I come here, shout out to you. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. The alpha king. Cool. Always chilling those spinning those alpha. Cool. What's cooking? It's been why you did your show. What's happening, cool? No. I've not seen the show for some couple of days now. What's what's happening on that
[0:30:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: end? Yo. Cool. He came to call you out, bro.
[0:30:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: This is crazy work.
[0:30:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. No. It's it's just doing a lot of kids stuff, man. Family... Kids in school, playing sports. I don't wanna miss it, and then all that. So... No. No. I'll I'll back I'll back today and tomorrow. Today and tomorrow.
[0:30:23] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: Yeah. I see the ninja king, Samara. Samara is the only person I think on this page eligible for Monarch. So you need to come and give us that that cheat code, bro. Are you always eligible for all these fucking airdrops or the fucking time? You understand? So Fine.
[0:30:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fine. That's a fine. That's two fines for Pandora. Write them up.
[0:30:40] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. They will pay.
[0:30:58] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. No. Wait. Wait. Why didn't Nat Nat say... She did not say, like like, she don't... But what was this?
[0:31:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is so weird you trying to say it that actually came
[0:31:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: out even worse, to be honest. That... That's what... Hey. Hey. She sounded like me when she was saying...
[0:31:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mother. That's why she said e is bar. But we also kinda debunked this. Well, obviously, it's a scam because, like, there's no b in Hedera. Like, why is it h bar?
[0:31:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, you want it to be... What's the h bar? That would be weird. Like, h bar?
[0:31:29] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Say Say it say it the right
[0:31:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: way, Vera.
[0:31:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Come on. You gotta say it the good way. There you go.
[0:31:34] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Thank you.
[0:31:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fucking gamer. I swear sometimes he really he really does act like it's his show. I love it. Pandora, welcome, bro. It's good to have you. I see JB Keys. JB Keys, you're new to this space. Welcome, bro.
[0:31:52] Voice I: Hello. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm so glad. Can anybody hear me?
[0:31:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah, JB. We got you. Do you
[0:31:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: have a question for us?
[0:32:01] Voice I: Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. No question, but I'm so delighted to be here. You know, I've been listening to you speak, Dev. I'm so happy. You're answering my name. Thanks, big bro. I think I'm in the right place.
[0:32:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I think that's the song. See this,
[0:32:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like celebrities. Y'all need to understand, like, what what it means for somebody sometimes to... You could make somebody's whole day.
[0:32:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Alright. Start singing the song.
[0:32:25] Kkoma @itskkoma: Say my name.
[0:32:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Say my name, bro.
[0:32:26] Voice I: Say my name?
[0:32:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: JB, welcome to to ATC, bro. I'm glad that you've been listening for a minute. Thank you for being a loyal listener.
[0:32:33] Voice I: Thank you. I I... I've got one thing to say.
[0:32:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course.
[0:32:38] Voice I: I've been listening for a long time, and a lot of things you guys been talking about, I hate about watching. I hope somebody's gonna come out of there. I really pray I'm gonna be one of those people that it's gonna favor because I think that's one of the project that I I I dev in early, and I've got the batch. I don't know what's going to come talking about NFT, but whatever is gonna happen, I really pray I'm gonna be part of it. And then Monica has been talking about quacks. You know, maybe getting, like, 10 quacks in a day. Don't know if that was... Was actually saying if she was able to get 10 quacks in a day. Following you up, you know, rolling around your timeline, I think that's what I'm going to do for now. I have to be sleeping on your timeline, and all of you that are in this bigger section, I really want to engage with everybody here because I am in the right place right now. I was looking for this opportunity to build myself, and it's not going to be possible if I don't do it with people that are like you guys here. So please, embrace me because I'll be showing up on your timelines respectively. So please don't push me away. I'm trying to blend, so I wanna grow with you guys. Thank you so much.
[0:33:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, JB Keys. I like that, man. That's the way you kinda gotta come up and just be like, hey. Don't put... Y'all gonna see me on your timelines, so, get used to this space. I like that. I like that approach. I feel like that's some that's some shit that I would say when I come up in the space being like, hey. Get used to seeing this cool looking guy with this sweet T shirt on and these amazing Nikes. Yeah. Mone... And by the Mone's never earned 10 quacks in a day unless she has.
[0:34:15] Moni @monitalan: I was gonna say, I think point 10 quacks might be the right number, not 10 quacks.
[0:34:22] Samara @thee_samara: Wait. Like, is Dave giving up quacks or something? Like, is he the alpha? Yo.
[0:34:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Samara. Bro, it's bad enough I got p... I got my my my bank receipts on the timeline, and Landy's asking me for... To borrow money, bro. Like, I I can't be handing out quacks. What are you talking about? I just Yep. I I I
[0:34:40] Samara @thee_samara: could use, like, 200. Just 200.
[0:34:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, is that it? Oh, coming right up, sir. The hell? Your girlfriend's b b o.
[0:34:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I'll I'll I'll take a 100 k.
[0:34:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Take a 170. He's not gonna use them. He's gonna come he's gonna come back and cry and be like, oh, I had this. They migrated. I wouldn't pay attention. I was too busy making so much money on the stock market. You know what I mean? So just take them from him.
[0:35:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Thanks. Thanks, Dave, for reminding me of us. Yeah.
[0:35:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate that shit. Damn. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. Pandora, what's good? And then I wanna get into the Coinbase story.
[0:35:12] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Before we go into that. I just... I mean, I was talking to you about this this Lipogochi NFT. It's gonna... The mint is in sixteen hours and all that, and I just checked, and I'm still no no eligible to mint. So I just wanna just put that out there for you. So, bro,
[0:35:29] Kkoma @itskkoma: you understand?
[0:35:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I sent I sent the the wallets over to to Anton last night. So I'm assuming he's gonna do it and and and add them all, but I didn't get lit... I mean, I... Of all the people that I announced, I think I maybe got, like, seven people. I got, like, half. So if if I... If I'm you and you're in this space right now and you were in the space the other day when we did the giveaway, I would go on my timeline, scroll through the past couple days, and check and see if your name was announced because I didn't get your EVM wallet address. But I'm not... Look. I'm not here to chase people down. But, Pendira, I appreciate the heads up. I'll I'll definitely let Anton know to make sure that all of the the the wallet addresses get reflected. But rest assured, 100, they were sent over. And you guys will... I mean, 99.99% be eligible. So I'll I'll confirm that though with the tweet later, though. But thanks for the reminder, Pender. Appreciate you. Bukat, give me one second. I just wanna get into this story, and then I'm gonna come say what's up to you. Okay? So hold on one sec. Guys, Coinbase is listing BNB. This, think... Like, this... Remember what we were talking about over the last few days where we were, like, the consolidation and everything else happening? I really think that people are sleeping on this news. This is monster monster news because now what you're seeing is the crashes that we saw from before is now bringing together two giants. Why now? Right? Like, that's the question I asked myself. Why all of a sudden does Coinbase decide, I'm... We wanna list BNB? Yeah. They're obviously seeing BNB at all time highs, and I'm sure the market makers are gonna make a boatload of money if they do list them. But now, like, as your... It's your direct competitor. You now have to open up access to BNB Smart Chain. Right? Like, we're now gonna be able to make deposits. I don't know how BNB US is actually gonna survive after this. I really... I genuinely don't. Maybe that was a move to kinda kinda curtail that because maybe they saw them gaining market share, but kinda curious to hear what you guys think. Cool. What do you what do you make of this BNB news? I I love it. Just kinda curious what you what you guys think. No. I think it's good, man.
[0:37:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think, you know, if if you can't beat them, you join them. That's what's happening right now. And Coinbase has seen that they they gotta make money. Right? And and that they've seen that Binance has really opened doors to the... Or or they're trying to jump in The US market. So Coinbase has just seen an opportunity to get part of that of that revenue, man. That's it. I don't think, and, of course, BNB is probably one the most liquid or liquid tokens in crypto. You need to have it on on your exchange, man. So buy buy and sell, make money from it. I I think it's a good thing. It is a great thing. I mean, you don't want... I... Like I said, it's good to to sometimes... You know, client client base can't be Binance. That's not gonna happen. I mean, not... No. They just... Binance Binance has a massive hold on on the international markets. So if it is the case, if you can't beat them, join them. I think it's a good thing. I I think it is.
[0:38:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good take. Nat?
[0:38:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: So there's a saying in business that I think applies to this. Right? Competition happens at the bottom. People at the top are collaborating, and I feel... And I I see this as, like, a collaborative effort. And I think they realize how much further they'll go if they join forces forces versus competing with each other. Right? Both make a lot of money. Imagine how much they can do when they're working together versus working apart. I think this is this is good. This is great for both companies. But with regards to crypto as a whole, top signal maybe?
[0:38:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe top signal. How is this top signal? This is... I don't think top...
[0:39:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: You think that... It's not... I don't think top signal because it doesn't it doesn't really affect retail as much. So top signal, I don't think.
[0:39:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? We still see.
[0:39:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm I'm... Guys, I'm I'm I'm kidding. I I think this is great for for for both companies. I think it's it's great for for both in... If if you're investing in in BNB, if you're investing in in Coinbase on the stock side, I think this this is a a a great moment.
[0:39:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I genuinely think that this is their way of saying, like, to each other, you know, it needs to be just us. Right? Like, they recognize... Like, I'm not putting you out of business, and you ain't putting me out of business. Right? But if we're gonna make this... If this is gonna be sustainable, we can't have the shit that happened, you know, over over the over the weekend happen again. Even though it probably will, like, this is a move in my opinion that, like, the higher ups probably have, and they're like, look. We need to we need to figure this out. Or at least Coinbase meeting together, like, their board saying, look. I think we could... Like, this is gonna pad the bottom line heavy because now you're able to tap into... I mean, think about the liquidity that's on Binance. It's been doing gangbuster numbers over the last... Just over the last couple weeks. Aster was also just listed on, on Binance US earlier today. So, yeah, it could be massive. Sorry. Go ahead, Nat.
[0:40:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I I was just about to say that. Right? Doesn't this move help the liquidity on both sides?
[0:40:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I really think it does. I really, really do. Because these are the giants that people look for for liquidity. And when people say, why doesn't Coinbase just list all these tokens and ta ta ta? This is the reason why. Right? Like, the reason why is because you don't see shit happening on Coinbase nowhere near the extent. Right? You don't see those price drops happening on Coinbase, right, like, to the near extent that you do on some of these others. Right? Binance lists a whole ton of shit. Coinbase has a really rigorous process for actually listing tokens, and there's probably good reason why. Because it's one thing to be able to make money and be freaking greedy as hell, but it's another thing to actually have, like, long term sustainability in mind because Coinbase wants to lead from the front, end of story. They want to be, like, the ones that are dictating policy on the regulatory front. And the only way they do that is not by essentially flash crashes where, you know, tokens are dropping 90% then rebounding 2000% like you heard Cole say yesterday. That... That's not that's not... That doesn't give them a seat... A a good standing at the table.
[0:41:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And it's not feasible nor is it sustainable over time. Right? So I I I think this move really does solidify both ends and help. They're they're realized that coming together, they'll... They're they're really helping each other versus damaging each other. Because I feel like with the liquidity issues, with the volatility issues in crypto, having both on opposite ends really does more harm than good, and I think they're realizing that now.
[0:41:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Agreed. I'm so... Like, Gamer, I kinda want your take on this. And do you guys think that we see a Binance equity, like, offering? Right? And I... A Binance IPO at at some point in the near future. Gamer, what do you think?
[0:41:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. Because of the the international aspect of it.
[0:42:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: It could be an AD.
[0:42:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I think you're traded as an AD.... The Binance...
[0:42:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: It can. It can.
[0:42:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But it can. But but, I mean, you know, there's a reason why Binance got Binance US got kicked out of The US. Right? I mean, they were already here, right, for... You know? But then they got caught breaking the law and doing illegal shit and got kicked out. Right? Which, you know, that... That's why I'm kinda bitter about it. Because I bought Binance, last cycle for $5. And, if I wasn't mandated and forced out of my position at $5, you know, and was able to hold it till today, you know, I might not even be here in this space right now. You know?
[0:42:49] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So... It's a little rude. I mean, we we would still be homies. Right?
[0:42:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, when it goes from $5 to, I don't know, whatever. You know, I... That... That's the other reason why I'm so bitter. Right? It's just like, well, you know, I got screwed out of my position just because, you know, CZ got locked up and thrown in prison.
[0:43:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: How many tokens did you have, gamer? How many
[0:43:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: did you have? I
[0:43:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't wanna think about that. Want to think about it. Like, I don't want to actually do the numbers to just rub it in your face a little bit.
[0:43:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I don't want... I don't... No. No. I don't. I I literally got it for $5. Like, seriously, got it for $5. Before buying... I was planning on Binance Smart Chain and all that when it first came out, and I was... All those games that were coming out of the BNB, I was I was there, man. I was there doing it all and got literally, you know, forced out out of everything. So, yeah, I'm a little bitter, and that's why I don't play on Binance anymore because
[0:43:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. If you had a thousand tokens at current price levels, that would be $1,200,000, Gamer. Yep. Yeah.
[0:43:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. You're welcome, bro. Thanks, Dave. That... That's... I can always count on you. No. No. That's just,
[0:43:54] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: you know,
[0:43:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: that's just me, you know, just letting, you know, the... Do... Doing the math and let people know, like, sometimes... You know?
[0:44:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: David's just being a great helper. Right, Dave? You're helping him...
[0:44:05] Moni @monitalan: Thanks, mom. Exactly....
[0:44:07] Bukat @BukatNgwageenti: What he
[0:44:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: put up. See? That's exactly what it is. Oh my god.
[0:44:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: That... I would
[0:44:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: like... No. But... No. But honestly, it it does have a chance. And and, actually, the fact that Coinbase is doing that kinda kinda... It was kinda a hint. Right? Like like, oh, okay. Like, if they're actually... Because I I do I do recall that they did hire a compliance officer, right, for Binance? I I believe that's what I remember. Unless they, you know, unless they quit, but I I recall that. Like, that was recent too, that they had a compliance, you know, for regulations. So that wouldn't surprise me, you know, if they're trying to, you know, be the straight arrow now and actually, you know, follow the laws and be compliant and not do all these, you know, shenanigans that, you know, people are are claiming they're doing right now, right, with winter mute and, you know, the whole... That whole thing of... But you you know what they need you to do is the proof of reserve.
[0:45:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: They... Yeah. Like, as far as I know, they they still need to do proof of reserves. You know? Because because that's why every... You know, the... Especially the on chain analysts are accusing them of shenanigans because they're saying, hey. You know, according to Onchain metrics, you don't have any Solana finance. So how are... You know, what Solana are you sending over to Wintermute to dump the market if you don't hold it? That must be customer assets that you're using. The same thing that FTX and Sam Bankman, you know, fraud was doing. So, you know, there there... You know, there there... There's that whole, you know, conspiracy theory that's going on too. So I I won't go down that rabbit hole.
[0:45:46] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's a... So the whole thing the whole thing with Binance, I don't think we need to give Binance any excuse to to crime since they already they already take, just about any opportunity to to to go ahead and do it. So maybe we don't give them any ideas on the space. But there are a few things kind of going on already, and there's some certain calls that are getting paid. I don't wanna get into this too much. It's not this type of space. Right? But there's a lot of shilling going on by, by the Binance, side and the Aster people on certain calls that maybe don't necessarily need to be calls trashing Coinbase and saying that, you know, there's no liquidity on Coinbase, blah blah blah, random stuff like that. Come on, guys.
[0:46:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Quit playing with me. Alright? A was it a p r... Like, honestly, because, like, we saw what happened yesterday with CJ from Limitless and buy... And and and CZ, like
[0:46:38] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yes. They This is all paid. Paid p r. 100%, dude.
[0:46:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's all... This this is
[0:46:43] xFactor @xFactorPOL: all high level marketing right here, guys. I mean, it is what it is. But...
[0:46:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, I saw CJ earn, like, 400 freaking yaps yesterday, man. That's what we... Maybe we need to start picking a fight with CZ, guys, then we can
[0:46:53] xFactor @xFactorPOL: double yap. Yaps over there. But that's but that's not that's not a new that's not a new thing. People have been doing that crap for a while, picking fights with Kaito, picking fights with, Wallchain, all sorts of crap. On the timeline, it blows up. Everybody gets free publicity, and usually, the big account gets a ton of exposure, ton of Kaito, Yaps, whatever, and followers. So this is... Yeah. It... I mean, it's... It is what it is, man, but it's it's just high level marketing in my opinion.
[0:47:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got crime stuff too. Yeah.
[0:47:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: I do I do have a question or comma. Since, Turtle took a snapshot and you being number one, how are you gonna spend your $3,300 k airdrop, bro?
[0:47:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just asked for it. You gotta give him... You gotta give...
[0:47:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: Ask ask him for a friend, bro.
[0:47:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: You gotta give Koma a second to unmute himself. His arms are short. He can't reach. He needs to get his little stick thingy.
[0:47:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who are you, and what have you done with Nat Nat? I love this one.
[0:47:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's Coma was coming at me. Did you miss the whole thread
[0:47:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: on the last thingy? Yeah.
[0:47:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I... Yeah. I was, yeah, was too busy creating content out here. You know what I mean? Like, doing work. Hey.
[0:47:54] xFactor @xFactorPOL: By the way, it's great it's great to see Coma back after, like, three or four spaces hiatus. Good to have you.
[0:47:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? It's nice to have Dave have some PTO, which you don't even have, but whatever.
[0:48:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Give him a second, guys. He has to get his stick. Hold on.
[0:48:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: We can't hear you, Koma.
[0:48:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Has he has to climb out of Dave's head, calm down to his freaking keyboard type. There he goes. Gonna take twenty minutes.
[0:48:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: My leg. Get off my leg, Koma. Get off my leg. What are you doing? While Koma reconnects to terrible Apple CarPlay. Yeah. Exactly. Cry, cry, Capybara cry. I feel like it's a good song. Oh my god. I'm gonna make that song one sooner or later when we get off or maybe in the intermission right here. There was no intermission. But speaking of crime, real quick, before I get to boo cat, Paxos minted 300,000,000,000,000 p y USD. For those that don't know what p y USD is, that is the PayPal stablecoin. 300,000,000,000,000. Twenty minutes later, all 300,000,000,000,000 PYUSD were burned. Tell me how in what world... If this is not... Samara, if the criminals are not back, I don't want... Like, bro, this is it. 300,000,000,000,000, and they're gonna say, we burned them all. And then you know what? Mysteriously, it's like, hey. PayPal, where's the audits for these? Remember when it was this Paxos due the lawsuit. We're gonna sue you. You've all heard the rest of the story. $300,000,000,000,000? Are you kidding me? In what world is this? Like, how does Paxos not know how to mint stablecoins? What?
[0:49:37] Samara @thee_samara: What are we doing? I feel like everyone's just testing the limits before all this regulation, like, takes full effect.
[0:49:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right. Right. True.
[0:49:44] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And that, well, you know, that's the problem, man. People keep testing the limits until eventually some, like, SEC... Somebody somebody's gonna be like, alright. This is the... I can't. I I... I've I've turned my back to this crime way too long. I can't do this anymore, guys.
[0:49:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: And you know what? X factor, they'll give them 10,000,000,000. They'll pocket 290,000,000,000,000 or 299,990,000,000,000. That's what they'll do because that's how it always works. Always.
[0:50:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. But I mean, if if... And you're exactly right. Eventually, they're gonna wanna they're gonna wanna in on the crime themselves. Right? They're legal crime. Right? So... But shit, dude.
[0:50:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: If we could
[0:50:20] xFactor @xFactorPOL: just if we could just be not so greedy and just kinda keep them off our radar, it would it would just be so great, man. But...
[0:50:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what it would... You know what
[0:50:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: and and just and just to be clear... Real quick.
[0:50:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what we're gonna see we're gonna see Don Junior appointed to the board of Paxos in the next in the next thirty minutes is is gonna be the press release. Go ahead, Gamer.
[0:50:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So I was gonna throw out there also that this is this this is just another reason. Actually, I think I, you know, you know, I went off on PayPal probably, what, six months ago?
[0:50:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I agree with you on that. I hate PayPal so much.
[0:50:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You know, when I when I pretty much told everyone that, you know, if you wanna get your money stolen out of your wallet, you know, have fun playing on PayPal because they have no cybersecurity. It it... They had literally have the worst security. They don't have any security as a matter
[0:51:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: of fact.... Blockchain's gonna protect me, gamer. The blockchain will protect me,
[0:51:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: though. Yeah. No. No. That's that's not how this works. When you are a PayPal finance app that has a direct link to people's bank accounts that they link, you know, automatically, and all you need is a username, password to get in, Or worse, you know, all they gotta do is SIM swap your phone, and then they're in. Because guess what? They don't have two FA. They don't have any extra security lockdowns on PayPal. So very ease... Oh, and not to mention, they've had, you know, data breaches. So pretty much, you know, the dark web already has your username and password access information on the dark web, you know, for people to buy. And since they don't have 2FA, you know, authenticator, you know, that kind of security protocols or, you know, or literally anything, very easy for people to get ahold of your PayPal, get into your bank account, and you go into the bank one day, and you have zero money in your bank account because it all got drained through PayPal. So... You're right.
[0:52:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right.
[0:52:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So have fun. Have fun playing on PayPal, and, yeah. Just throwing that out there.
[0:52:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: You said miss me with PayPal. Yeah.
[0:52:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: I
[0:52:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: mean, look. If you think your facial ID is, is gonna be the thing that gets you, I promise. A quick little forgot my password action, is gonna be just fine. They can reset your shit no problem, especially if they're able to SIM swap you. Great point, Gamer. Coma, go for it. Hey, Coma. What's up, buddy? Can you hear me? Go ahead, Nat. Get... Cook cook him.
[0:52:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: Can I
[0:52:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: can I reply? Jeez. Like, every time someone says my name, there's, like, five other people that reply for me. It's like, if you're
[0:52:59] Kkoma @itskkoma: gonna reply for me, can you at least write it
[0:53:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: me too? Because, like, I do need some ghost writers, and the money should, you know, as... Like, accumulate that by itself. But, you know, feel free. Anyways, cool. To answer your question... Actually, net net first. It's you gotta still explain to me HBAR versus Hedera because there's no b in Hedera.
[0:53:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, boy. Mean, you you missed
[0:53:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: the entire conversation.
[0:53:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? By the way,
[0:53:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: ghostwriters ghostwriters take note. Just... If he has an open position, he is mega rich after there's a TGE that's happening. So
[0:53:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: Okay. And... Okay. I don't know if you guys saw this, but I'm no longer number one. Like, I'm number eight. Apparently, you know, everyone heard about the snapshots. So someone decided to inject someone decided to inject $19,000,000.
[0:53:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: A DAO.
[0:53:48] Moni @monitalan: Right? A DAO?
[0:53:49] Kkoma @itskkoma: I I I can't compete with that. And then a DAO.
[0:53:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Apparently, DAO
[0:53:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You know what? You know what, Coma? Hey. I feel for you, bro. I feel for you, Coma. You're only gonna get 300 k. Dude, that's that's heartbreaking, brother. I feel like you should... You deserve a million.
[0:54:04] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: I don't
[0:54:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: know if anyone saw
[0:54:05] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You deserve a million, bro.
[0:54:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: Did did anyone see the actual... Like, how the allocation is? Like, the leaderboard is less than what an OG Discord role is. So just just FYI, this is
[0:54:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know what that means. What does that mean?
[0:54:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: So, basically, if you have an OG Discord role in Turtle, you have a higher allocation than someone on the leaderboard for the liquidity. And there's only, like, a 100 people on the... That have the OG Discord role. So Is that a
[0:54:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: good thing, though, Coma? That's a that's a good thing. Right? Like, we want them rewarding early users and early people. Right? Yeah. Sure.
[0:54:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: But, like, the disc... The early disc... What what Koma's saying, and I kinda agree with this, like, you can have an early badge just by literally join... Joining in on their servers earlier and have very little...
[0:54:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: Will will you... Will know the game? The game is a lot of the team members their family and their cousin... Cousins get the OG rules before everybody else comes. That's that's what happens.
[0:54:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: 1100%
[0:54:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: of game.
[0:54:59] Kkoma @itskkoma: It's a
[0:54:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: great way
[0:55:00] xFactor @xFactorPOL: to get allocation to the team without getting into the team. So cool
[0:55:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: cool nuts.
[0:55:04] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. It is what it is.
[0:55:05] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. So Cool thing right there. I'm not expecting much, honestly. And then I just found out number one on the leaderboard is a DAO that apparently is meant to make accessible gaming something, but they decide to put all their money into Katana, DeFi chain, which has nothing to do with whatever project that they're trying to do. So they basically injected their whole treasury funds into Katana, and then they probably used their users to refer, like, to refer themselves, and then they're gonna just keep pumping up their bags. So Wow. I can't compete with Paragon. So it is what it is.
[0:55:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Cool. Cool. So we got... Wait.
[0:55:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: So you're having a a... So so you're you're you're saying a different project is farming on another project airdrop. Jesus Christ. Crypto...
[0:55:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: They're they're doing it for you too.
[0:55:55] xFactor @xFactorPOL: On top like, of three or four months, Paragons is gonna be acquired by Turtle, and it's all gonna make sense. What?
[0:56:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Listen. NVIDIA does it. Right? NVIDIA does it all day. It's like, hey. You know what? I'm gonna invest 40,000,000 into this company. Right? Who? Yeah. And then all of a sudden, they can say, oh, guess what? We got $40,000,000 in orders from this company. No way. Stock price moves up 10%. Hey. We just added 400,000,000 to the balance to, you know, to the balance sheet. Like, now we're worth $44,900,000,000,000. Come on. This is Dallas all this time.
[0:56:30] Kkoma @itskkoma: They're basically doing what a hedge fund does, but they call themselves a DAO. Like, how does that even make sense?
[0:56:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: That that... Bro, that may... I don't know where y'all have been living, but that makes perfect sense to me. Like, yeah. Except now, you're shielded even more because
[0:56:44] Kkoma @itskkoma: ATC DAO.
[0:56:45] Bukat @BukatNgwageenti: Let's just
[0:56:46] Kkoma @itskkoma: do it. ATC DAO.
[0:56:47] Bukat @BukatNgwageenti: You know, these are referral.
[0:56:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: We'll split it amongst the five of us. Here we go. We need now.
[0:56:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: We're our
[0:56:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: master organization.
[0:56:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm sorry. That was supposed to be kept secret.
[0:56:58] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That was supposed to be secret in the alpha
[0:57:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chick'n bones don't lie.
[0:57:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Before letting it out.
[0:57:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: X Factor needs to send in an application to be part of the DAO, but, yeah, other than that, we're all
[0:57:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who are you? Who... Wait wait a minute. Who are you to tell X Factor that he needs to send in an application? I don't understand, Capybara. What is this? So what? Don't discriminate against his nose. He's in.
[0:57:17] Moni @monitalan: I I do have a question. So, comma, how many people... I... I'm totally lost with the whole turtle because they have Kaito, which they took a snapshot a long time ago, and then they have the cookie one, and they have... So I I have no idea. Who are they giving money to besides their OGs on Discord?
[0:57:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Besides your sister, your mom, your brother, your your cousins.
[0:57:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: Guys. Yeah. Not not me. Not Nat. Not cool. Not Dave. Not anyone in here, apparently. Yeah. Unfortunately.
[0:57:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Guys, so according to... I just wanted to double back on the Paxos news real quick. And shout out to Ryan down in in the in the audience. He's he's really great. He's a really great supporter, and he's part... I... I've heard him speak as well on both bit... Bitcoin. He just sent me this... The the story. So Paxos says they've mistakenly minted an excess of over 300,000,000,000,000. Right? So it was a 300,000,000,000,000 mint error.
[0:58:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are y'all not listening to the words that are coming out of my mouth?
[0:58:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's insane.
[0:58:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are y'all kidding me right now? Is this a joke?
[0:58:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just wanted to double back on that. Right? Because it it it quickly burned the top...
[0:58:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Deja vu. Oh my god.
[0:58:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Should... Feels like deja vu.
[0:58:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, I can't get back. Right? Because then she's gonna say, oh, baby, baby, baby. And then what do I say? I got nothing. I I took him... What am I supposed to do? I... I'm literally... I'm like a capybara. I have no hands. I have no... I can't fight back. It is nothing I can do. Nothing.
[0:58:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: No comments. Thank you, Ryan. I appreciate it.
[0:58:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Capybara has hands? Yeah. Exactly. It definitely... It has hands.
[0:58:53] xFactor @xFactorPOL: They're very short, but they I
[0:58:55] Kkoma @itskkoma: will slap you with these small hands off the gamer.
[0:58:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's the fucking... That's... I'm clipping that. I am clipping that. I am so clipping that. I haven't clipped ATC in a minute, but I am clipping that. I will slap you with
[0:59:08] Kkoma @itskkoma: these And then I'm gonna sit on your head like I sat on Dave's head for
[0:59:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was my shoulders. It was my shoulders, technically, is how I like to refer to it as. It's weird when it's on my head. I don't know. Do copy of ours shit? Like, do you... Like, where where
[0:59:19] Kkoma @itskkoma: is shit? We certainly do, and I'll slap YouTube.
[0:59:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Is it is it
[0:59:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: a copy of Barro? Isn't that just a giant rat?
[0:59:27] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. It's a gerbil. It's a it's a hamster. Right?
[0:59:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Something like that.
[0:59:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I think it's like a
[0:59:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: giant hamster on steroids. Like a New York... Right.
[0:59:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Just a giant rodent. It
[0:59:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: eating rice and beans from birth, and that's how we got like that.
[0:59:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: To be clear, Ryan, I wanna say thank you. My shots were not directed at you. They were directed at my cohost for willfully not listening to anything, apparently, that I said.
[0:59:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: I I heard what you said, but I feel like we went over it quickly, and I just wanted to hammer down on a 300,000,000,000,000 part.
[0:59:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I feel like Oh, that was those Austin Powers That was quickly. It's like $1,000,000,000. It's like $300,000,000,000,000. Moohahahaha.
[1:00:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys are special. I love it. Nobody listens to the host. Okay. Boo Cat, you took your hand down. That's good. I'm glad. Guys, I I... We're we're gonna clear the air here. Boukat was somebody, if you guys remember me complaining about... No. He... Now he goes down. Come on, Boukat. What are we doing here? Mar, there's no absolutely no way. Not today. I'll kill you today, Mar. There's absolutely no way this is gonna happen. Boukat, come back up, bro. I'm gonna shoot you the follow. But Boukat was the guy that I was complaining about essentially when I said, how are gonna make me scroll through 40 pages of, like, wall chain when you literally made your first aligners tweet? But me and me and Boukat have officially made amends. We're good. There is hope. I do not block or hold grudges against anybody out here. So, yeah, continue obviously cooking.
[1:00:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's not what you told me. Yeah.
[1:00:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're a diff... You're a totally different Try harder. And plus, listen, don't come at me if you got slapped by a copy bar, bro. Like, I like, I am not your... I'm not your... I don't got your back out of That's just funny. The copy bar getting slapped. Okay. Where's the... Oh, the puppet said he wasn't gonna be here Wednesday. Forgot. Okay. Nat, what else we got cooking in the... Oh, poly... Kalshi. Give us the Kalshi news and rig cuts of above. I saw you posted. Wait. Was that you?
[1:01:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. Alpha gamer.
[1:01:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think alpha gamer was cutting it a little bit. Go ahead.
[1:01:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Thanks, Dave. Thanks.
[1:01:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Go for
[1:01:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: it. No. Go ahead, Nat. Nat.
[1:01:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: See, one can't listen and the other
[1:01:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: one doesn't... It has your name. It has your name under... Go ahead.
[1:01:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: We balance each other out. He says, I don't listen and he doesn't read.
[1:01:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: So you
[1:01:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: go ahead. I'm trying to get to
[1:01:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: the story. I don't care if it was you or you. Who cares who found the story?
[1:01:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Go go ahead, Nat, Nat.
[1:01:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So seventy seven chance of three rate cuts in 2025. I feel like we touched on this many, many, many, many.
[1:02:00] Bukat @BukatNgwageenti: GM GM GM, Dave. Can... Am I am I audible?
[1:02:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Bukat, you are audible, but I I went through the whole thing already for us. What's up? You good?
[1:02:09] Bukat @BukatNgwageenti: Good. Actually, I was jogging, so my bad. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks for the opportunity to to speak, Dave. For sure. Actually... Yeah. I'm actually happy to, you know, be in the midst of you guys. Well, you guys are sharing a lot of alphas always and always and always. So, yeah, I feel happy to be here, and I want to kind of add value because I... You guys are giving me a lot of value right now. And, yeah, I appreciate your follow backs. And I I guess I I offended Dave some time ago, and I think we are cool right now. Well, he followed me.
[1:02:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We're good for you, Kat.
[1:02:49] Bukat @BukatNgwageenti: We some facts from me from from watching. Yeah.
[1:02:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're good, I appreciate you, bro. And thank you for obviously coming through, and... Yeah, man. No. Look. I I don't hold grudges out here. I don't hold grudges.
[1:03:00] Bukat @BukatNgwageenti: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Know. Thanks. So, So, yeah, everyone, if I show up on a timeline, yeah, give me a like. You probably give me
[1:03:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: But don't do this. Don't... No. No. So don't... This is what... This is the one thing I don't like. So to be clear, if you're somebody... And, Bhuket, this isn't directed at you. This is just in general. Right? Like, take the rule of thumb that you heard from Monica where it's like, if people are gonna follow you, like, they're gonna follow you. Right? Like, contribute meaningful stuff on their posts and let them follow you. I've never heard in my life, cool asked for a follow from someone, Nat Nat asked for a follow from someone. I've never done... Unless it was like, I might have done that maybe once or twice early, and I
[1:03:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: get it. I totally Nope. Nope. Never have.
[1:03:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Yeah. You never have. That's fine. But I'm saying, like, it's not the best look. Right? Like, if you if you... I'm glad to give people the stage, come up here. Right? Like, you know, I'm glad... Like, I wanna give people... As many people as possible the opportunity to come up here and talk and obviously network with whoever. Just don't network with Mar, the guy that's got his hand up. You don't wanna follow this dude. But, everybody else, you're good. But you don't have to ask for follows. Don't have to DM people. Like, I'm telling you, there's nothing that cringes me more than people that are in my DMs that's saying, can you follow me? Can you follow me? Please follow me. Please... Like, I... That makes me want to follow you less. Right? Call me shallow. Call me whatever. But, like, provide value to my account, to me, to my... Like, to this team, right, like, to this space, and I will support the hell out of everyone and anyone. It's... That that... That's just a simple fact. But, Bukat, welcome, bro. Like, I'm glad that you came back up, and, yeah, I shot you the follow also. But I wanna get to this Kalshi news real quick. Yeah. Bukat, me a sec. I wanna get to this Kalshi news really quickly. 77% chance of three rate cuts net net? I thought... I heard... I saw the news that said Bissent and and Powell... Or not Powell. I forgot who it was. They gave indications that said two rate cuts, but three rate cuts? Put... Is a big difference?
[1:04:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I'm thinking they know something we we don't know, but I I I think when we spoke about this and with everything that the news have been saying and what percent has been saying, they did leave the door open to rates, and at one point, they did mention two. So I'm not sure where the third one is coming from.
[1:05:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: October, November, December. Right?
[1:05:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. There's no way one rate cut every month?
[1:05:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's... Well, that's what Cao Xi is saying. That's what they're...
[1:05:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: See, that... That's the part that's hard to believe.
[1:05:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And it's 77%.
[1:05:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: And it's a 77%. Yeah. I don't know about this one. I'm I'm... I can see the two happening, but with regards to three, I don't... It's really hard to see.
[1:05:34] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Just bet the other side, guys. Come on. Just bet the other side. We have the technology.
[1:05:38] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Not not 33%. That'll be a nice payout.
[1:05:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let's go. Let's do it.
[1:05:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's bet NFL. And for those that are following Coma, don't follow any of his NFL bets, by the way, because he never wins on NFL, like, ever. But his UFC bets actually do pay off. So, if you're gonna follow him for prediction stuff, he's actually pretty good on the, on the UFC betting side. Just don't join his group. He'll threaten you. It's it's not a it's not a happy place to be. He just yells at me all the time in that group.
[1:06:08] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Yeah. Like, don't ask for likes. Don't ask for follows, but always ask for referrals. You know? Like, use my referral. No. I'm just kidding. But It's coma is the referral if you
[1:06:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: want. Not. You better use my referral. Did you use did you use my call sheet
[1:06:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: and Billy referral? You
[1:06:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: said No.
[1:06:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'm going to use Billy's. That's one. Brad.
[1:06:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yo, coma. Coma. Got a referral.
[1:06:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fucked up. I'll hook you up.
[1:06:30] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'll I'll use Alpha Gamers because he's been pretty on top of stuff with the energy and, you know, the calls. So... Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:06:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys, I start full crying to somebody If I start full crying on the space, would that make anybody feel bad? Like, if I just outright just started... If I broke down and cried, would that make any of you, like, just feel bad, like, at all? Ever?
[1:06:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: Nobody. Dave, I will I will use your referral then if if you if you if you continue crying.
[1:06:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Fine. I'll cry.
[1:06:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Really, Dave? I'll grab you a really
[1:07:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll grab
[1:07:01] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: you a
[1:07:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: So I'll
[1:07:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: hand you a pen out. Wait.
[1:07:05] Moni @monitalan: That's all I had to do?
[1:07:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Monica, change. Stop.
[1:07:08] Moni @monitalan: Stop. Monica,
[1:07:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: stop dimming my shine right now. Okay? I'm supposed to be sad. I will cry.
[1:07:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's all it takes, Monica. You heard you heard it here. That's all it takes.
[1:07:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here's a tissue. Crocodile tears in the casino.
[1:07:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Let's go.
[1:07:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: So, guys, just to bring it all back into the Kalshi story. Right? So the so the the three rate cuts is just Kalshi pricing it in after Powell, suggesting that the tightening program could be ending soon. And this is completely different. This is just the prediction markets, right, doing their thing, but in reality, everyone sees two. So, I mean, if if if you if you see two, then bet against it. If you see three, then bet for it.
[1:07:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. But don't forget to hedge on the prediction market. What's the hedge strategy on the prediction markets, Nat Nat? That's what I wanna know. How do we hedge on
[1:07:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: prediction I I am, like, prediction market newbie, so I think someone that has skin in the prediction markets game, that is actually a very, very great question because I think with market volatility and volatility that we're seeing everywhere, then maybe hedging. If there's a way to hedge it, I'm down. I'm interested.
[1:08:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, guys. And don't listen to Landy or or Nat Nat when it comes to prediction market stuff because I took the other... They were like, no. It's not gonna be any. It's gonna be unchanged. And lo and behold, I took I took that side. And guess what happened?
[1:08:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: So they Uh-huh. I see Landy came up. Puppet. So we're we're touch... We're touching on the on the college seventy seventy puts... 77% chance of three rate cuts in 2025. I don't see it. I see maybe two, but I think three will be a little excessive.
[1:08:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why why did I just picture Landy with 300,000,000,000,000 p y u s t falling out of his pocket?
[1:08:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: And you know what's funny? There was another story with regards to the 300 t, and they only mentioned 300,000,000. So I don't know. There's, like, a discrepancy. It's probably worth looking into.
[1:09:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I literally... I gotta make that picture. It's in my mind. I just picture a puppet showing up, like, little waddle in and, like, all of a sudden
[1:09:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh my god. Y Landy. Tokens full of this. Landy, what do you think? We should go on Kalshi and take the other side? Pick the 33% on this, three rate cuts? Sounds like a juicy profit margin.
[1:09:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I mean, as as the market gets more excited for three rate cuts, we'll likely see that become, like, a 20 or 15% odds, which makes it a more attractive trade on the counter trade. Right? Because there will be volatility in in that movement, especially, like, when it goes 99% and and that kind of stuff, it can be... You can arb those. Bread Bread has built out a really nice way to arb stuff. I hope that we can do that, through through Billy, because you can make money just on the movement and and the spread. So, look, I I don't really know or care if they cut. They got their 25 basis point cuts. The expectation is that we're gonna see some more cuts. Three more cuts by the end of the year? It's a little aggressive. Exactly. That's a that's a cut that's a cut this month. That... That's a cut through the end of the year. I mean, that's that's a cut every month through the end of the year. I don't know if we see something like that. Maybe we get two. Three is is a little rich. If we get it, it's gonna be because... Well, here's the thing. Like, how are you gonna cut when you don't have, like, accurate data coming into the next meeting? Right? Like like, they have perspective data that we've been watching the entire time. So it... It's really the the next big... The next cut is... Would be this month. Right? What? Like, next week? That that would be the rate decision time, but are they gonna cut without, like, accurate data? Because we don't have... I mean, they don't... We don't have accurate data, and we're trying to get accurate data now. It's one of the reasons why they're doing this big overhaul. But now that the government shut down, there's not a lot of accurate data. I I really don't. I I think maybe two is is a good median if they're gonna do it. Some of the economic data does support two cuts minimum that was coming into this q four as the job, you know, market started to squeeze. But then we started to get, like, better numbers again and and a little bit of inflation, but not as much inflation as we thought. And, like, the whole meeting expectations thing is is is kinda lost. Like, when we start meeting or beating expectations, you lose sight of the fact that we're still seeing inflation. Right? It's just that the inflation isn't as bad or it's it's around expectations and... Or the market... The job market isn't as bad or isn't as good as what we expected. Right? Like... But we're getting contraction in the labor market. We're getting expansion in inflation. So two cuts, think, is a fair fair shot. If you're really gonna go and bet on three, have fun. I hope you are that trade and you make some money. But what I will say is something that I mentioned in one of the private chats or group chats here is I am now in a swing long position on, Bitcoin in many, many majors in the crypto markets. And I previously scalped up to the resistance for Bitcoin, for instance, at, like, $1.16, right, and then took a short right back down. I'm now in a swing long position. If we drop the lows, I will be stopped out in in... And I will take a small loss on that swing long position. But I'm bracketing the range. So if it fails, I'm keeping my swing short, riding that down. I'll take the loss on that long, swing hedge.
[1:13:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: So let me... I just have a quick question because, like, I'm I'm I'm One zero eight. By this whole bracket thing. Right? So when you say bracket, that means that you're closely watching this, and I'm assuming you... It's either you're right in front of the computer when you have this because No. You're a... So then how does this make sense? Because how do you know when to close one and not the other? You're watching the momentum and the liquidity build on one side or the other. How...
[1:13:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I I I... It's the bottom of the range. So I... We... On the first spike down, I I only scalped it back up. Right? So it's a shorter term trade. I scalped that wick back up, and then I I scalped the move from, you know, like, one one ten to, like, one sixteen.
[1:13:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then the other side?
[1:13:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, because... Not gonna close the short side because I've been... I was taking profits off the short side down here at the big weekly. And then I'm... I scalped long, kept my short swing open. I've only about 50% taken profit on that position. So I took profit on about 50% of that position. I leave the the the half of the size is still open on that position, and then I added to it when we bounced up. So I took profits. I went scalp long.
[1:14:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh my god.
[1:14:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Scalped it back up to one sixteen. I then added to that short position.
[1:14:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. I get
[1:14:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: it back down. Now I'm swing long and I'm swing short. So if... Here's how it works. I have stops in profit for my short side position. If we start getting closes above a $123,000, I'll be stopped out in profit. Right? I can manage that position at any point if I feel like the market's gonna turn and go and hit it, and I wanna get more profit, but I've taken a ton of profit on it. Now the swing long position, I just have a stop loss below the lows. Right? If it gets hit, it gets hit. I'll reevaluate whether or not to enter. I'll take the small loss on it. I don't have to sit here and watch you do anything. In fact, it was filling my orders today. Last night through today, it was filling a bunch of long orders for me on that setup because I'm still short, and I'm overweight on my short side. So I wanted to get in a bracket trade. So I'm basically short the top of the range, and now I'm long the bottom of the range. Meaning, whatever side breaks is the side that I'm going to, you know, ride up. Right? If it... If if the short side get, you know, gets about 50% above and I'm not around and it hits my stop and profit......
[1:15:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: The order... Yeah. I got it.
[1:15:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have my long that I'm riding up. But if it if it breaks down from here and starts to close below, you know, the range, I'll get stopped out of my my long position, but I still have my short position open. So that's my bracket.
[1:15:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what it is, Landy? I had a mental block when when you're saying one position of one long and one short. My mental block was like, how many... Like, I wasn't factoring in the different accounts, the different platforms, the different, like, how you can have the multiple ones open to be able to just manage it like this. I don't know why. Brought it all. I was today years old when that just clicked for some reason where I'm like, oh my god. Okay. This makes sense now. Okay. I get it. I get it. I get it.
[1:16:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: The other thing that you can do is many centralized exchanges. If you're, like, spot long, for instance, you can you can... Like, on the way up, you can actually hedge. There's hedge mode, like, against your spot positions, and you're using margin to hedge your spot side. So you don't even have to do derivatives, and it... It's technically you're taking a loan against your portfolio, but you're not you're not actually doing perps or or futures. You're taking a hedge position on a lot of these. So there's, you can do simple stuff like that if you just have spot and you don't wanna play around with trading. But then you're you're you're you're long spot. So that means you're doing actual buys of spot. You're not using leverage. I'm playing with leverage. Right? So I I always trade leverage. My spot is is the collateral for that leverage on exchanges and on perp taxes. And I just bracket all the time. I'm always managing these positions to find a range. Whatever side breaks, I ride the winning side. And then I reenter. Right? Like... So if we drop the bottom of the range, I'll keep riding that short down. I'll just pick another spot to start building a long position again against that short position. And you can do this across pairs. There's still... There's very few, inverse pairs anymore, but there still is Bitcoin inverse pairs or coin m pairs, which mean you're trading Bitcoin and Bitcoin, not not USDT or USDC. But you could take, like, a long on the USDT side and a short on the USDC, or just do different contracts and futures or different perps or different exchanges. And I like to split it up across many different centralized and decentralized exchanges to do this.
[1:17:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: So, Dave, what did you think the whole time when when when we were mentioning that, you know, we're hedged?
[1:17:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: It wasn't clicking that. It wasn't clicking, I remember. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Honestly... Yeah. I don't know why.
[1:17:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: One good way to hedge, like, Landy mentioned, is spots and then a short position because that way you take advantage of the volatility in the... In in the, stock market world, it's it's a little more structured. Right? What he's what he's describing in the stock market world, we would call it a straddle, especially if you... Straddle. Yep. Yeah. Especially if you get in at the at the same price. Right? So for example, if I wanted... I saw NVIDIA at 100, I would do, 100 call, 100 put all at the same time. Right? And then just profit on whichever side pays out the most.
[1:18:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. I literally just... I don't know I don't know why I remember that options was chapter 11 in my series seven book when I was studying Yep. At the chop shop in fucking Long... Bro, in in in... Where in Long Island was it, bro. It was the craziest thing.
[1:18:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo, dude. So, I mean, that's where you get, like, your butterfly trades as well, and then there's different variations of butterflies and straddles. But you could straddle a range. You could straddle at the same price, which is delta neutral. That protects your whole... That... That's basically locking you in at that price, like, so that you can't really lose. And then you can arb on, you know, whatever on the beta or the Vega or whatever you want or the theta. Like, you can arb. It depends on how close you are to expiration, like, this crap with options. It's actually way easier to do these manually. Like, everybody's begging for options trading, like, on chain. I I think that's a bad idea because I'd rather go long and short in bracket ranges or go delta neutral against my... Like, you can just go on. Like, if you wanna save your ass, like, in spot, you can go on and go basically a delta neutral trade. Like, you can delta neutral short hedge your trade, and you're you're not gonna win, but you're not gonna lose. Right? You'll... And often because the market is more long than short, hey. This is bringing up USDH Yeah. For Medica vibes. Right? Because you're more long than short, you're actually gonna make money on that trade anyway or break even on that trade even if it's a loser, and the market goes up on the hedge, you can just close it out. You bank it.
[1:19:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. And that... And that's why when when the markets crash, quote, unquote, on on on Friday, a lot of us that were heads with spot or... And and and perps, we didn't end up losing a lot. Right? Because the short that we had paid very, very well, and it made up for the losses on the spot side.
[1:20:16] Samara @thee_samara: Absolutely. That's what I was gonna ask.
[1:20:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: Like, is it better is it better to, like, basically find the best funding rate, essentially, take advantage of that, and then just buy spot on the other end? Where...
[1:20:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So, basically,
[1:20:29] Kkoma @itskkoma: you kinda Coma, great question. Rate. Yeah.
[1:20:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Here's here's one of the one of the main reasons. Like, it was a structural reason why I went, like, macro short across markets. It wasn't just in crypto. I went short on essentially buying puts because of the payout. It's... You can think of it as like a funding rate. Because of where price was in traditional markets, I got stupid good deals. It was stupid not to go short because even if I lost those positions, I was still winning, and I have time. The same go... Was was going for, like, Bitcoin. Bitcoin funding rate on the long side, they were... It was long pay short at the highs was starting to race to the top side. So I took advantage of that as soon as I saw lower term time frame market structure changes back below a $123,500. I was like, this is gonna head towards a 123. If it bounces and funding continues to rise, that means that longs are longing the highs, and the long short ratio is racing to the top side as well. It would be dumb for me not to start building a short position here. Even if it goes higher, I can continue to build because I'm gonna get paid to keep this position open. And the bigger the position is, the more I'm getting paid. Plus, I'm long, and and I need to protect that long position. I'm long not just on spot because I hold a bunch of spot, but I'm also long on on perps. So I need to take some of that profit, roll it, and now I had a big old short position on the other side that was paying me in funding fees. So long pays short. The market starts to go down. I take a little bit of profit at each level, each level, each level. And then as it continues to come down, now I'm going, okay. Let me scalp long just to just to start seeing if this goes somewhere. If it doesn't, I'm gonna close it real quick and then do it again and again and again until we get to the important levels like here at the bottom of the range where I'm like, okay. I'm gonna build out a bigger position, like a main position. Now I've got one main position over top short. I've got one main position down bottom short. It is still long pay short, but its funding is pretty even right now. So it's kinda flip flopping between those positions. Sometimes it's short pay long the the past few days. So now it's like, okay. It would be dumb not to go long here at support after I've already scalped the shit out of it and it's still holding. I might as well go long. And if it drops the lows, I can either build it or let it stop out at a little bit of a loss. I can take some more profits off my short and then rebuild my long side. That is just constant management. And I do this across markets. Now one of the big things is is a lot of people will do this on just one centralized exchange. What happens if that centralized exchange liquidates your position, doesn't hit your stops, or you have way too much money on it? If you got more than $250,000 on 10 x leverage on any exchange, you better have that same 250 k across a bunch of different exchanges and perp decks because you... Or you can go off chain and have them mirror you on chain. There's different services for that, but you need to be very, very big. That's very similar to what, like, Hermetica does with their off chain stuff to take the positions. It's it's, you know, copper and so on and so forth. Those services are really institutional grade. But for for anybody that's not, you're just retail, you should have your position split up across different centralized exchanges that you've worked with and you know very well, and perp taxes that you have had experience with, not something brand new that you're not experienced with.
[1:24:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good shit. Linda, honestly, you're a wealth of knowledge when it comes to this stuff. This is super helpful, dude. Yeah.
[1:24:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not not that I've not mentioned that we've been here the whole time. It's okay.
[1:24:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: You don't worry about it. You, I get to ignore for today, especially 300,000,000,000,000. That's gonna be my response to you from now on. Thanks, Ryan.
[1:24:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave Dave is coming for your neck, Nat Nat.
[1:24:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: I know. I know. And I thought I was doing a good thing, just circling back and hammering the
[1:24:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: neck joke. It's okay, Dave.
[1:24:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was a neck joke.
[1:24:37] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hey. Move on to the next topic, guys. I
[1:24:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: do have a question because my head is falling off over here.
[1:24:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real quick... Make it quick, please.
[1:24:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. Real real quick. So I'm actually on the Calcities site, and I'm... I could literally hit this no button here and put a thousand dollars. And if you guys are right and there's no three cuts, that thousand dollars will turn into 4,350. So I'm I'm kinda, like, looking at this right now.
[1:25:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: 10%. 10%.
[1:25:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: Mhmm. Not 2,000.
[1:25:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, don't take it. I'm telling you, Gamer, it didn't work out for me. I'm just letting you know, bro. Calci is real. Bro, predict... Tell... Listen. You have not been paying attention to x factor.
[1:25:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's a that's a four x, bro. That's a four x.
[1:25:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: But here's the thing, though. This is the beauty of prediction markets, and you hear factor say... And you hear x factor say this all the time. You don't even need to wait for the market to settle. Right? Like, if there's any inkling of doubt where one news story comes out and then all of a sudden it's like, and it goes from 33 to 60%, bro, you just still doubled your money. You know? That's what I'm saying. That's the beauty. I hear you. I hear you. But I do wanna get to a couple other stories because there's there's monster stories here, which honestly, I'm I'm kind of shocked that Gamer actually didn't didn't put them forward. In... Me. BlackRock... Listen to this...
[1:25:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Know about this.
[1:25:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: And NVIDIA are teaming up on a $40,000,000,000 acquisition of a major global data center firm. I don't know who it is. I get the... I just literally saw the headline just scroll... Like, just scrolling through. $40,000,000,000 acquisition. Gamer, no comment, but I need you to, like, I
[1:26:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. No. I... Digging on. No. Yeah. I saw... Wanna know what's...
[1:26:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I wanna know, like, what the juice is in here and what stocks we need to focus on, like, this kinda acquisition.
[1:26:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Right? They... You know, it's kinda illegal for them to, you know, actually say until that deal's all done. But, that's the reason why we don't know who who who it is. But on a... You know, on that same narrative of data centers and power and energy, which I've literally been ringing the bell and harping on, it just goes to show. Right? Like, this is just more money just flooding the markets for for energy, for power. Like like, the... Is... They need it. Like, you you could have the most super powerful AI in the world. Can't do anything without power. That's just how it is. Right? So the fact that, you know, these... The big dogs now, right, the, you know, the mag six, the mag seven are rolling in now and, you know, just scooping up all the data centers that they can get. And and this wasn't just the only news. There was also the, you know, the Terra Wolf news that I sent to everyone for the $3,200,000,000 that they're raising. And then also, I mean, pretty much all of them. Iris Energy, their sky... I mean, you could just look at the sector. Right? They're all skyrocketing. Right? They're all... I mean, just throw a dart. You're probably gonna hit something that that... You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, they're all... And and at and at this point, like, you know, they they are, you know, overbought. Like, as far as from a technical standpoint, they are way overbought, but they just keep pushing higher and higher and higher. Like, the... Like, we're... Everyone's waiting for that pullback, and there's no pullback. You know? 10% today, another 10%, another 10%, another 15%, and you're like, okay. When this thing gonna pull back? Like, jeez.
[1:28:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: If you don't let the phone go forward.... Ugly. Right? The higher it goes without a a pullback, that that downtrend is is gonna...
[1:28:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It's that would be that would be the entry. And that's why I keep telling every... Everyone about it because I'm like, hey. Keep keep your eye on this. Watch this. Because... And then when it has that massive pullback, that's your entry. Right? That's that's, you know, that's it. Like, that'll probably be your only entry. Right? Because the... Yeah. You know, because, you know, like you said, like, NVIDIA, Microsoft, Google, I mean, we're talking the titans of the stock market are now coming in and and, you know, that's it.
[1:28:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So it... It's it's power, energy, data, data stories, data infrastructure, AI, and chips.
[1:28:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh oh oh, before I forget, Matt, CleanSpark. Keep your eye on CleanSpark. They have been moving... No. No. No. Dave, no. For real. CleanSpark, keep your eye on them because because all the other ones have already came out with the, you know, high performance compute. They haven't had that yet. They haven't announced any kinda, you know, multibillion dollar deal with these huge... And they're one of... They... They're one of the most efficient mining companies. Like, they... They're they're running, like, like, really good margins, like, really, really clean energy. And the fact that they... They're... They've been really quiet kinda has me, like, I wonder if they might be the next one to come out next week, you know, or next, you know, in the next few weeks or month. Like, oh, yeah. By the way, we have this massive deal with the government or or or, you know, we're... So it's just... Yeah. Because CleanSpark has been on my rate, like... Because all the Terra Wolf pump, Iron pump, WagMe. Right? WagMe is the... And it... You know, all of these are going. I'm like, okay. When... When's... CleanSpark's the kind of the only outlier here, and they've been real, real quiet. So whenever I see that, like, company is real quiet, I'm like, there might be something going on here. So I'm just looking at throwing that out there. Just...
[1:30:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I appreciate it, Gimber. Yep. Yeah.
[1:30:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Thank thank you. I forget... Dave, what were you gonna say? You were gonna say great job, Nat. Thank you, Dave. Thank you, I
[1:30:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: was gonna say... Yeah. Was... You you you didn't even let me get to it. I was literally gonna say, Nat, amazing analysis, way to back up alpha gamer, especially in the chat. What I was gonna say was I need you guys to essentially pump the WagMe token, the the InfopFi token in crypto because I have, like, 4,000,000 of those. You know what I mean? So if you could
[1:30:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: do something about that gamer...... So rich. Oh my god.
[1:30:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you could do something about that gamer, that would be, like, amazing.
[1:30:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Dave, you... If you had 4,000,000 of WagMe stock
[1:30:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I could... Oh my.
[1:30:58] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You wouldn't even be here right now, Dave.
[1:30:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Telling you. I know. You'd be done. I'm telling you. I know. But I don't. But I don't. But last story, and real quick, I also... I just, man, she left. I knew she was gonna leave. Gamer, when I tell you short... Did you make it short? I was gonna give Laura a shout out who was here. Damn, man. I'm trying to make some connections out here. You know? Man, this is how people feel maybe when I don't let them up. Alright. Fair enough. Maybe that was a dose of my own medicine. But, anyways, OpenSea. This is the last story that I got. OpenSea. Okay? And and we'll we'll we'll end with this. I know we're a little bit past time. OpenSea logged 1,600,000,000 in crypto trades and 230,000,000 in NFT volume in early October, its biggest month since 2021, aka, do we smell c token coming? What do we think?
[1:31:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Any piece are bad....
[1:31:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Percent. Well, I don't know about
[1:31:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: that, but... Watch out
[1:31:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: for the sea, man.
[1:31:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: There's no
[1:31:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: there's no coast guard on the open sea, ladies and gentlemen. Be careful.
[1:32:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just make sure...
[1:32:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: How's the dormant department this?...
[1:32:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Z zing about sea.
[1:32:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who... How do you farm open sea? What what are you doing to farm open sea?
[1:32:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What do mean, brothers?
[1:32:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't think I'm guessing or anything.
[1:32:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, right. Is
[1:32:13] Kkoma @itskkoma: this guy blue? What what kind of question is that?
[1:32:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: How do farm open sea? Is this guy blue, he said?
[1:32:20] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hedera or Hibera. But either way, you know, you could definitely farm open sea. Hecapibera.
[1:32:28] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And maybe and maybe we could talk about this next time....
[1:32:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Old NFT.
[1:32:31] Kkoma @itskkoma: Something about a Jewish guy trying to speak with the Spanish accent. He's just way too funny right now.
[1:32:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a tough crowd, man. Look. Like, the Funyuns joke? Only Landy got the fun that was, like, in chips, man. Chips. I was like, oh my god. Funyuns, man. Goddamn.
[1:32:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what it is?
[1:32:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is that alpha gamer is, like, was talking over you so that I didn't hear what you said, and then I had my 2¢ to put in.
[1:32:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Well, alpha gamer talking over me. What's new?
[1:32:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, realistically, when when we were talking about chips, Dave was over here just just throwing money at Lay's. He was like, I'm all in. Oh god.
[1:33:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was literally looking at YouTube videos, so pretty much the exact thing that you were saying just in a different context. I'm like, if I can queue this up in time where he's like, chips, man. Onions, man. But, no, I couldn't. It is what it is. Anyways, seven zero four, we're kind of on time. Cool playing Barbie dolls. I don't know. You know, it is what it is. Spend some time with the kids. Nah. Let's go. Unless I missed something, guys. Does anybody have anything else that they wanna kinda throw out?
[1:33:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So... Yeah. P y u s z, 300,000,000,000,000. Let's go. Yo.
[1:33:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what, man? We'll see you next time.
[1:33:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay, everybody? Was about to say that. Woah. No. This was an amazing show. I love how we covered all the stories, and we... Every time we do these shows, lately, I've been getting a lot of compliments in my DM. Even when I go on all the spaces, they they know what ATC is, and I think that speaks volumes to everything that we're doing, everything that we're building. Even with aligners and Infofy, I think I think a lot of people are are becoming more and more aware of all things crypto for sure.
[1:34:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. And the wolf space. I love that
[1:34:14] Moni @monitalan: she says even with info.
[1:34:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Four second,
[1:34:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: it can speak to the next level, baby.
[1:34:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, Monie. Like, with this redheaded stepchild out here. Cool. Tell him not to put some receipts of Infofy. Saying. This is crazy. But why do we Infofy? Because.
[1:34:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That's some money to make.
[1:34:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Zip it, copy.
[1:35:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go fucking. I gotta do
[1:35:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. I gotta do it.
[1:35:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Sending an invoice your way.

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