Wednesday FOMC-day show hosted by Dave with Kool, NatNat, AlphaGamer, Landy, Kkoma, Bread, Samara, Shaksi, GeekPlanet and Roger from Alignerz. NatNat breaks down the 25 bp cut: markets had priced it in, Powell said a December cut is far from assured, and QE-style easing starts Dec 1; she watches 107K for BTC with liquidity building both above (toward 130K) and below (102K, 98K, lower), and frames deep pullbacks as accumulation zones. AlphaGamer notes Powell blamed missing data for only cutting 25 bp, the SOFR ceiling forcing easing, Silicon Valley layoffs tied to AI, and x402 as the unlock for agent payments. The crew covers NVIDIA's $5T market cap and partnership strategy, Meta's earnings miss, Google's Q3 revenue, and first-day results of the HBAR, Litecoin and Bitwise Solana ETFs (Solana led). Dave notes the Folks Finance TGE (Nov 6) and Story Protocol's slide. Kool and Dave cover Bitcoin/Beyond coming to Wallchain (4% of supply to Quackers). Wolf/Kkoma recounts a bad TGE where liquidity was missing at launch; Shaksi and Dave discuss Lurky's claim and the SongJam DJ tool and space monetization. Roger (Alignerz) explains why Dave was named Chief Multimedia Officer: Alignerz is complex and needs visual education, including a YouTube channel. The back half is a long discussion on monetizing spaces: subscriptions, x402 pay-per-entry, tipping via Tater, Patreon-style groups, recaps/PDF summaries (GeekPlanet) and Landy on recurring-revenue content models. Market talk is discussion, not advice.
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# All Things Crypto: ATC | 2025-10-29 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1ZkKzZnPpWwKv | status: approved # Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed. [0:00:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up, everybody? We're gonna get cooking today. Hope everybody's doing well. Crypto Luna, Nat looks good. Gex, I love you for the All things crypto. Red carpet space. Let's go. All things crypto. [0:00:48] Samara @thee_samara: After the ESC, it's that alpha hour. [0:01:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it me? [0:01:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I don't hear anything either. [0:01:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, man. This must be an AWS issue, bro. AWS, down goes Frazier. Yeah. AWS Azure, they've been having issues all day, man. That's unfortunate. That kinda sucks. Let me see if I can maybe bring her back. I know. Right? I feel like you were just starting to flow. We were like, yeah. I [0:01:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: might be dancing. I might not. Leave it alone. But, yeah, there's no options on this page right now. But let me see. I wonder if we did this. Join the space one more time, lady. Thank you for joining All Things Crypto. You're here now. Looks good. I hope everybody's good while I troubleshoot all this. Let's see one more time. Let's see if our girl can figure this out. Come on, baby. You got this. You got this. In the meantime, man, we're song game space. If this doesn't work, then we're just gonna cut it, and we could just ad lib it, and I can just roast everybody for coming late, because they think they're gonna walk into some beautiful anthem. You know what mean? That's some bullshit. Chaz, happy birthday, bro. I wish you the best, my g. Frozen, I see you. Villa, what's up? Hash, the first logi crying. The first... Oh, excuse me. The first aligner. My bad. I was thinking Roger, brother. What up, Capo, Luna? Hope y'all are good. Yeah. This ain't working. This ain't... [0:02:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Ain't ain't working. [0:02:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: You... Now should I beatbox or something? Like, you [0:02:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm all for it. I know you're really good at freestyle. You wanna freestyle the all things crypto song? I'm down. [0:02:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. I can't be freestyling. Nobody wants to hear me freestyle. Although [0:02:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do. [0:03:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I am not gonna cook myself like that. That is crazy work. Shout out to Metavision. Wait. The meta... Metavision, did your space rug? I heard people were talking smack. The space maybe might have rugged. Yeah. Metabeast, of course. Did Metabeast ever throw a thumbs up? Like, I'm just so curious. Hey, Metabeast. What's up, bro? Where the hell is everybody? Right? It's like you're looking around like that John Travolta, like, pulp picture of me. Like, Like, what's going on? Like, where is everybody? I I actually don't get to be last today. Oh, yeah. You're welcome. You're welcome. Oh, I'll probably [0:03:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: say hi. [0:03:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think I thank the people that haven't shown up. Mhmm. X Factor fired. Monica fired. Alpha Gamer fired. Landy fired. All of them fired, bro. Fired. Fired. Fired. Fired. Although, I do have to download this one. I have to put... Hold on. Cool. You're gonna lose your freaking mind, bro. I I created the best sore video. I'm gonna waste it on the comments, but it is literally that good. Bro, it's amazing. I came across this, and I'm like, oh my god. This is gold. I'm gonna pin it up to the... Okay. There we go. It's loading now. Sending post. Cole, did you like the first video that I created of the sloth who is known as the best air air drop farmer of all time? Did you like that? And a vegetarian. [0:04:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Bro, you're gonna love this one. Hold on. [0:04:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. Have you have you... Are you posted it yet? It it was. [0:04:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I just pinned it to the top. It's so good. And then it's... Nat, and it's cute too, so I should get cute points just in case if I drop f bombs, you know, like, just let the cute little sloth make up for the f bombs. You know? Everybody take a second and go watch the video at the top. It's worth it. [0:05:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: I came across something like, oh my god. This is gold. This is gold. I'm still wait... Oh, there it goes. Finally. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Sorry. Okay. Now you got ten seconds to go watch it. [0:05:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're wondering where you are, you are in the right place. Welcome to All Things Crypto. We're just watching a video. [0:05:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I've seen someone doing that with cats or something. That is cute. That is cute. She puts a doll, like a little toy sloth in the bathtub, and then a real sloth comes out, but really slowly. [0:05:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is such a cute video. Oh, the meal. [0:05:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? I know. Let me get points for that. Right? I [0:05:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: can't get points for that. Can I get back to you on that? Can I think about it? [0:06:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. I didn't really think about it. It's not something to think about. Cool. I made that for you. No homo. But that was good. It was like he's crawling out of the bathtub, like, super slowly. And it's like, uh-huh. Look at this. Like, a little sloth coming out of a bathtub who happens to be an airdrop farmer. Like, did you wake up this morning thinking that you were gonna watch a video of a sloth, like, literally toy coming out of a bathtub talking about airdrop farming. No. You didn't. So my work is done here. Thank you. But, anyways... Yeah. We have we have a ton of news to get to. A ton. A ton. A ton. There's been so much news today between FOMC news. I love it that, like, nobody's here yet. So we... Guys, me, Nicole, and Nat can skip the pleasantries. Let's jump into it. Nat, talk to me. FOMC cut, 25 basis point cut. What is the deal right now? Like, where are we at? Like, market is is down. Are we... Liquidity building up or down? I don't know what you're gonna say. Hedging here and there. What's the deal? [0:07:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: You you know what? So the... As we always say, the markets are forward looking, and the the markets were kind of already pricing in a 25% basis cut. Where the market was caught off guard a little bit is when Powell said that a December cut is is far from assured. Right? So they don't know if we're gonna have a third cut in December, which goes back to what we were mentioning a few a few weeks ago with regards to poly markets, how they were betting. There was a big bet on three cuts before the end of the year, and now it's two because we don't know how December is is going to look like. And that's because there's a lot going on in the economy. And even though we know that they have access to the reports, there's a lot of moving factors, and no one knows for sure how the reports are gonna look like, especially with inflation being so sticky. Right? It's like... It's been hanging above their 2% gold for a minute literally all year long. But the the other thing that they mentioned is they're going to start doing QE as of December 1. So last time they did QE, the market, it was... We kinda pulled back a little bit, but after that, we went on full beast mode in, like, 2020... 2019, 2020, I believe, because money was just pumping into the market. Liquidity was just pumping into the market. So December is going to be a very interesting month. And shout out to Alpha Gamer because he did mention this. He he sent us a a picture of Powell and the QE statistics in the group chat, and it turned out to be just so. Right? Obviously, with regards to price action, the day that it's mentioned, no one knows what the stocks are going to do. So today, we saw it pull back. With BTC, as I mentioned, right, and today, I was called a moron on one of the spaces for mentioning literally the same thing. Right? So there's liquidity building on both sides. There's liquidity building at the top, and there's liquidity building at the bottom. We're seeing a gravitational pull towards the bottom. Right? So don't be surprised if we break that one zero seven area. Right? That one zero seven area is key. Every time we hit that, we bounce and we go higher. But if we break that, definitely look at one zero two, 198, maybe even 80 as I mentioned. But if we bounce there again, because the liquidity that's been building at the top is all the way to, like, almost at one thirty k, I won't be surprised if we get there. But we... Because there's so much going on, we kinda have to be open to both sides and really look at really, really look at support. So when I was called to Moran, it's because I was talking about the liquidity down below. And as we've seen, right, this whole range that BTC has been in, it's literally grabbing liquidity up, grabbing liquidity at the bottom, grabbing liquidity. It's literally just a liquidity grab on both sides until it it finds and maintains some kind of balance or some kind structure. Right? The long term structure is still intact, though, but that one zero seven level is key. When I was called tomorrow and I was talking about the possibility of us going below 100 k. So here's here's what I said. Right? So I said, if BTC does drop below 100 k, 80 k, or 70 k, that's... For me, that's a massive buying opportunity because we know how BTC tends to go on this massive rip to the upside. And if BTC does what BTC did a few years ago when it outperformed gold, we're looking at BTC probably doubling and tripling the price. So if we know the overall trajectory of Bitcoin is a 100 k, 200 k, maybe even 300 k at some point, Wouldn't it be smart to buy at a discount when the price is below 100 k knowing that it's going to absolutely rip at some point? Do you wanna buy at a discount or buy at a premium? Right? So I feel like this is why retail investors, they constantly operate at a net loss because they don't think like this. Right? They think green candle means buy, red candle means sell. When it's the opposite. Right? And, Dave, I know when you first bought your your Bitcoin, it was it was at a discount. Right? The markets pulled back, and you were able to get a nice, nice entry. So even with this volatility, yeah, it's hard to watch with your stock going up and down. But, overall, you're still sitting nice on profit. Why? Because you took advantage of the discount. You are being a smart investor in buying the pullback. Now the problem is when I was calling the more is that he wanted me to say we're going up only and that BTC is never going to go below 100 k again. And that is incorrect because we know how BTC tends to move. Right? Sometimes with these short moves to either side, we kinda have to be prepared. So that is why we... I always say hedge and look for support because those are the big buying opportunities. So for me, it's $70.80 k thousand BTC. I'm looking to buy, not to sell because I know in two or three years, my kids' college are gonna be paid off, and they're not even in college yet. Right? We're gonna be sitting nice if we're able to take advantage of the discount and sell out a premium versus the other way around. [0:11:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you say, Mohan, do you not recall the last... The the all time high, what, somewhere around 60,000, then it dropped way, way drastically down? Yes. Not that long ago, really? [0:12:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly. Because of that BTC short term is volatile. Right? Long term, we're stabilizing a little bit, but short term, we're still... We're we're volatile. Right? So everyone that took it... When he hit... When we hit 60 and we did that pullback, those that took advantage of that pullback are sitting nice. That's why it's so important to buy the discount and sell the premium versus the other way around and have an open mind when it comes to investing versus, like, just laughing or shutting people down because you just never really know. Your stop loss is a billionaire's entry 10% of 100% of the time, 10 out of 10. [0:12:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: So question for you. First and foremost, did you find that man? [0:12:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: I almost threw a chunk at his face. I haven't heard from him all day. I hope he's okay. But... No. You know what? Landy and Kate, they stepped up for me big time. Like, Landy has all my respect. Kate has all my respect because they had my back 100%, and I will always and forever appreciate them standing up for me. Because as the... Being the only girl in that space, I'm... We have Lady Trader, but she's on vacation. Right? So lately, I'm the only woman in in that space, and I... You... And when I'm on a space with you, with cool, with all the other gentlemen that we work with every day, when I'm in a space with Kate, even when I hang with my husband, I tend to forget that little boys like that still exist... Still exist running around with no manners or or self respect. So it it kinda shocks me a little bit to see comments like that, But in a way, it's a good reminder to, like, okay. Just keep in mind that people like that still exist even though you're used to hanging around amazing individuals. [0:13:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Fair. I don't even know what... Yeah. Do you see what happened in your wolf space in your wolf space? That doesn't happen in these ATC spaces, does it? You're the queen out here. That's so you know. I'm just saying. You're queen out here in the ATC space. It doesn't happen in any wolf [0:13:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: I space. Appreciate you guys. And K did step up, and he did have my back, though. And then... But you know what? And kudos to you guys. Kudos to K. Kudos to all the men that respect women's opinions and women's voices in this space because it's not easy. It's not easy being a woman in this space even though we're right, like, nine times out of 10, but to each their own. [0:14:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. You know, it's kinda crazy. I've been seeing this [0:14:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: for a while. There are a [0:14:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: lot of women in this space that I should know what what they're doing. You definitely... One of them to me probably probably own... One one of them I know numb... You're you're not even docs, man. And as I know, you know you're stock because you're growing your brand without being docs. Plus, a lot of women here that are dogs, they use they use their other stuff to grow. You know what I'm saying? Well, you're not doing that, man. You're actually using your brain. At least you freaking out a whole bunch of us. So, no. Yeah. Like, the... But the funny thing is you are you are gonna experience stuff like this. I think I think it's just... It's, people that immature, they are... They're not used to that kind that kind of environment, but it doesn't make any sense. I mean, like I said, it's... I mean, I... The the beauty of them are about you, you're very mature. If you were if you were a lot... If you're immature, it would hurt you to a point where you you could have left space for, like, a couple weeks or whatever, but you're very, very mature, and that's the reason why you're able to handle yourself amongst a whole bunch of dudes, man. Like like I said, it's about what we need more women in this space. We don't have enough. There's just too many too many dudes, man. Like, the the funny thing is our space might be the only one where we have more females on stage speaking than than than men. About almost 53 sometimes. But a lot of the space that I go to is one female, two. That's it. Sometimes you get four on this space sometimes, and that's actually a pretty pretty decent number, man. But like I said, now now you you you got... You have our respect, man. Your... I I I know what happened. This is what happened. He... That that dude probably lost money, and he probably didn't like that he lost money, and he has to he has to take it out on someone. You were you were just in front of him, and that's not what happened. [0:16:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what? I think you're right, and you're absolutely right, Cole. Unfortunately, it's something that we do have to deal with. I dealt... I deal with it a lot too on on stock tweets. Like, my Robin Hood call, I remember Robin Hood being at $17, and I and I I posted and said, you know what? Based on everything I'm seeing, I do see Robinhood. I can't be the only one that sees Robinhood going to a $100. Right? And I got a comment saying this is why we don't let women on the trade floor, and they stay in the kitchen because they don't know anything about investing because Robinhood would never... Yeah. So the... He's... And he goes off to say... He's like, because Robinhood would never get to a $100. Go check how much Robinhood is right now. [0:16:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mic drop. And and... [0:16:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So so so you also have to remember, a lot of people are very brave on the phone. They can't say this kind of stuff to you in person. So that's why I'm like, you you should never take it personally. If you if you're this space right now and you wanna be an influencer or KOL, you better have some some some thick skin, man. Yeah. You got thick skin. I'm sure they've come out the day multiple times. They they make comments to me. They make they make comments to you. Now now you better have a thick skin. You cannot thrive in the social media space if you don't have a thick skin. You have to have it. [0:17:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: 100%. 100%. Thank you, guys. [0:17:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: For sure. We need wolf space. We need wolf spaces. Wolf spaces. Let me find out wolf spaces. We'll make make the whole ATC crew roll up to the wolf spaces. We'll find out. I'm kidding. Nat, great stuff. Gamer, I know that you're here. I know you are probably chumped, but I'm surprised you actually didn't try and cut Nat Nat off a a million and one times because you are chomping at the bit to be like, oh my god. Call this. [0:17:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I would never do that to her. [0:17:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tell me. Tell me, Gimmer. Tell us tell us you told us so. [0:18:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. I was gonna say I I I wouldn't do that to Nat Nat. [0:18:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: You mean today? That's fair. Alright. That's fine. I'm glad you talk about that. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Motherfucker, you do that to all of us. Okay? You are an equal opportunity to skip this [0:18:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I never I never do that kind of stuff. [0:18:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait, gamer. Talk to me. In all seriousness, the prediction market thing that we talked about, was the... Would this have been the third cut, the third one, or the second one? Because I I was hearing Nat say, like, two... Like, third would have been December, or would this have been the third? [0:18:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. So this is the this is the second one. [0:18:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: Okay. [0:18:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're talking about the the prediction. [0:18:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Polymorphosic prediction. [0:18:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But but but what I threw up on you got... Or threw up. That sounded weird. What I threw up top or in the chat was... Because when when I first was looking at it, Polymarket... Like, it was only, like, a 12% chance. And then all of a sudden, it skyrocketed to, like, 88% chance. And that's... Remember? And that's when I was like, oh my... Remember when I was, like, here in the space, and I was like, I'm about to put a thousand dollars on this. And and that's why I was cracking a joke. Like, oh, well, whatever. You know? But you are right, Dave. You were you were the one person who was like, ah, you know, there might be a chance. I remember we we we were cracking jokes, and I was like, you know, I I was like, that that Ace Ventura. You know? Like, so you're saying there's a chance? [0:19:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: You said a thousand bucks, and I was like, game... And I remember specifically sitting on my porch, sitting on my steps outside and being like, gamer, you don't even need it to hit. You don't even need the market to settle. You just need there to be the the littlest inkling of fucking possibility. And, bro, look at where we are right now. Are you kidding me? You're hella [0:19:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: in the market. And and then the prediction... Yeah. The the prediction market now is, like, poly... Like I said, poly market's, like, 88. It's been hovering around, like, 90% chance now. So I'm like, oh, man. That would've been, like, the easiest, what, four four point five x. You know? Easy easy four x, but, you know, it is what it is. It's all good. Not worried about it. [0:20:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's your take, though, after the FOMC meeting and kinda just current, like, market conditions right now, Gamer? Like, where where where where you at? Give me your, like... Give me give me your take. [0:20:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. So the... Yes. Quarter basis. It was kinda interesting the words. Oh, stupid spam robots cutting me off. Can you hear me? [0:20:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you just get cut off by a Waymo? [0:20:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Freaking bots. I swear. It's like every time I'm about to say something, like, get a call. [0:20:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. Oh. Oh, thought you got cut off by a Waymo. Like, I was like, you just get cut off by a Waymo. [0:20:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. Oh, but I did hear that the Waymo is gonna have their IPO coming up. I did hear that when I was scrolling through my... So that that might be something in itself. But, anyways, yeah, quarter basis point rate cut. But the words that he used was interesting because what he said was, due to the government shutdown, they don't have all the data that they usually rely on to make, you know, decisions. So based on that, that's why they did a quarter basis cut. So so think about what he... Like, so when I thought about that, I was like, well, wait a minute. What what are you talking about? So I'm like, well... So, basically, he... He's saying without saying it that a half rate cut was on the table. Right? Because, you know, when you make a statement of, oh, we didn't have all the data. That's why we're only doing a quarter rate cut. And I was like, well, then that... You're saying that point five was on the table. So you're saying that if if you did have the data and the government was open, that you woulda did a point five. You know? And then if that woulda [0:21:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: happened, we can't have all the data. [0:22:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Well, all the shorts woulda got wrecked because they were... Like, we were not expecting a half rate cut. So markets woulda went bananas If that was... And shorts would've got wrecked today. But it was just interesting how he... Like I said, he chose those words. Right? And it kinda is like a slap in the face to Trump. Right? Because him and Trump don't really, you know, literally get along. Right? So it's kinda like, yeah, Trump, because of this government shutdown, you know, he's kinda trying to blame them. And, you know, everyone knows that it's, you know, it's... I mean, it's not really, you know? I mean, it is what it is. Right? They're trying to get... What was that? 1.2 was it? 1,200,000,000,000 for illegal immigrants or something like that? And all the... All all the stuff that Elon and Doge, right, all that, like, stuff that does not benefit Americans, the taxpaying Americans, like, all those weird, you know, USA stuff that they all siphoning money into all, you know, the rest of the world, but it doesn't benefit Americans at all. It... It's just weird. This this whole government shutdown thing is just is just bananas. And then, you know, the whole... You know, people are about to people are about to go starving. I mean, the whole, you know, food stamps are about to get cut off. Like, it it, like, it might, you know, it might it might get a it might get a little... Or I'll put it to you this way. What are people gonna do when they need to feed their families, and they ain't got no money? They ain't got no food. And I I even hear, like, the food banks now are actually getting low. Oh, and and I will make that, like, charity, you know, disclaimer. If you do happen to have, like, extra canned foods, go go to your local food bank and and help them out, because they are saying that their supplies are getting really low because of all the federal workers that are actually... Like, I even saw someone, post that he's like, hey. I'm a, you know, I'm a federal worker, post office. And he's like, this is the first time in my life I've actually had to go to a food bank to feed my family, and it's just... It's really sad. You know? And and like I said, you know, like... So watching all these these people post about it, I'm like, wow. Like, that's just insanity that, you know, they're... These politicians are are holding just people hostage. You know? They're literally holding Americans hostage and don't wanna pay them, and it... It's just a joke. You know? And and meanwhile, guess what? Those politicians, they still get their paycheck. They're not affected. You know? So that's kind of the other... You know, we we we need... We should pass laws where if they wanna do this kind of bullshit in the future of, you know, shutting down the government, then they don't get paid either. [0:25:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I actually didn't know that, Gabe. We need I actually did not know that the politicians still get their paychecks. [0:25:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, they [0:25:07] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: still get paid, bro. [0:25:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's why [0:25:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: they don't they don't that's why they don't give a fuck. [0:25:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I'm I'm [0:25:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: sorry. They they don't they don't care. Right? Because think about it. They're still getting paid. They ain't got nothing... You know, they're getting their food for their family. So they're like, oh, whatever. We'll hold we'll hold out for as long as it takes. Meanwhile, the rest of us are starving to... Literally starving, like, children. Like, American children are starving, and it's it's bananas. Right? So like I said, pass a law, you know, contact your local politician, and be like, hey. You need to put a a bill in place that strips all you politicians. Right? Government shuts down, none of you get paid. How about that? You're... Because they're... Remember remember, they're getting paid by our taxpayer money. Our money is paying their check. So why are they get... You know? It doesn't make any sense to me. Why are you still getting paid? [0:26:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: With Roe... With Roe Conno yet, like, the other day was like, yo. You're gonna put forth a bill about Trump not making money, like, now? Like, give me a... Like, what are we talking about? Like, you're... I didn't even know this. This even amplifies it more, but that is crazy work, man. Yeah. Nat, go for it. [0:26:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So so, Gamer, the last two times, I believe, a... In 2020... In September of this this year and in '20... In 2001... I'm sorry. In September 2024 and in 2001 when the Fed did, a 50 basis point. On the short term, the market didn't react the best. They reacted negatively when we saw the massive in '2... In in 2024, we saw a spike up, but then the markets bled because of the initial shock to the system. So I think if today we were able to get a 50 basis point, I think the markets would have closed ugly short term. Long term, obviously, the markets recover and we had a nice day. But short term, it would have been a red day. But we're all speculating. [0:27:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Because because... Well, yeah. No. But you might be right because if... Because what that's signaling to the market is something's really wrong. Right? Like, something's really broken. Like, there's something's like, you know, banks are about to, you know, you know, dial, you know, that that that line for help. You know? Like like, something's really broken. But but but like I said, just the fact that he even said it that way. Right? Well, I was like, ugh. And and and, actually, maybe that's why the markets did what they did today, Right? Where the... Like, it kinda sold off. Right? Because probably everyone heard that. Like, oh, well then, oh, shit. Like, this actually might be worse than what everyone thinks. Right? You know? Like... So maybe it kinda scared the markets. But oh, and then also, I threw up top AWS, you know, went down a second time [0:27:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're gonna get there. [0:27:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: In in the same month. And I just threw it up top. I'm sure we'll get there. And then the other thing was Japan and Trump. Macro news, that was big. [0:28:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm surprised you didn't mention that you called out the the QE thing because you did call it out in in the group chat. [0:28:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: The tightening. Right? [0:28:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I called out, yeah, that that he was... I mean, they had no choice. And and... Because I was looking at the SOFR, which is the SOFR rate. And like I was saying in the chat, whenever the SOFR hits a ceiling like that, they ain't got no choice but to start easing up because they are gonna break shit. And and that's essentially what he said was, yeah, we gotta start we gotta start QE. We gotta start easing up because, you know, the... Like, people are getting laid off. I don't know, you know, if you guys covered that already. Like, there's some... Like, a lot of... Like, especially where I'm at here in Silicon Valley in the Bay Area. Dude, a lot of people are getting laid off. Like, thousands thousands of, like, thousands of people are getting laid off right now. And and a lot of it is due to AI, actually. A lot of these... Especially here in Silicon Valley. Right? They're replacing all these people with AI. [0:29:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: More people coming to crypto, bro. That's it. This is where people are gonna have to wait. [0:29:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm telling you, man. Like, it's it's it's it's here. You know? And it's, oh, and then and then the other big thing that I saw from crypto was x four zero two [0:29:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: gonna rally off every story? [0:29:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: X four zero two, AI agents, it's gonna be a thing. Yeah. The the more I look into it, the more I'm like, oh, I'm like, wow, Dave. You you need to you need to educate... Educate yourself on that whole... Because I I think that it... That's gonna unlock the whole, agentic. Yeah. [0:29:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brad, sometimes I feel like he doesn't pay... He he pays attention to his calls, but he doesn't pay attention to anybody else's calls. You know what I'm saying? It's okay. It's alright. Yes. I agree with you, Gamer. X four zero two is definitely going to be, 100% a thing. But could we also talk about NVIDIA hitting $5,000,000,000,000 and Meta missing? Like, I feel like this is important. Right? Like, just from a market perspective, Nat, like... Exactly, Gex. Like, Meta missing by $5 a share? What is the deal here? [0:30:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bro, that was horrible. [0:30:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: I've... I saw horrible error. I was doing... [0:30:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Because sometimes they do that. They issue out, like, a a a mistake, and then they recant it and issue out a a new article, and they say, you know, correction. I was waiting for that corrected article, and it just never came. So I'm like, oh my god. They really did miss by this much. It's so bad. Meta is down almost a 100 points right now. It's horrible. And last time this happened, the markets went with it. And Meta hit a fifty two week low because it just kept dumping and dumping and dumping. [0:30:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: A 100 points? [0:30:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's on... Yeah. I believe it hit, like, 70 something at one point. Yeah. [0:30:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Woah. It's it's it's ugly. It's ugly. [0:30:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is going on? See, now that's that's gonna be interesting to watch because, like, I said, the AI race. And then at the same clip, we saw Google announce a 102,000,000,000 in revenue for q three. I mean, how much money is enough money? Like, we're paying these idiots too. Like like, I would spend... No more. No more. That's for sure. Like, I I got done paying two months ago for, like, all this VO and whatever for a $125 a month, but, like, there's schmucks like me literally paying this, like, a $102,000,000,000. Like, I get fiscal responsibility, but at what... Like, over... Like, how much? How much? Like, it it... It's gonna make... I don't know. Is the demands of these services that crazy? But I know money just came up, and we haven't had money in a minute. Money, what's up? It's good to see you. What's going on? Thank you. I'm just saying hi. I'm at the airport, but I wanted to go come on stage and laugh at before. Was it... Who was telling you of all the things you're working on saying that you need to look need to look into it? Anyway, it wasn't bread. I'm like, wait. Do you [0:32:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: not follow Dave? [0:32:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're literally gamer. It was gamer. [0:32:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Gamer. Gamer. Wait. [0:32:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What did I say? [0:32:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? I'm like, do you not follow Dave? Anyway... [0:32:10] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: No. Just [0:32:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: saying hi. I'm listening. I'm gonna have to get off stage in a little bit. I'm at the airport. How'd the conference go? [0:32:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hey, Manny. [0:32:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was good. It was... It's so interesting. I'm talking about Kristoff and people being... Here's a fintech company, and people really don't understand crypto. So I think we have a great opportunity. Amazing. I love hearing that. Opportunity. Opportunity. Opportunity. Cancer, I'll just have you know there will be zero mention of HBAR, HDAR, or anything on this show. You had two full days, okay, of straight chills, and I think that's enough for a week. You know? I mean... And it's only Wednesday. You know what I'm saying? So... Oh, real quick, though. Real quick, Dave. [0:32:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: How how how did they perform on the launch? Who? The the numbers. What were the actual numbers on this... The ETF launch? Oh, I don't know. [0:33:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got you. [0:33:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I got you. So HBR, which is a ticker symbol, it opened at 40 price per share, and it closed at around 27 price per share. Same with Litecoin. Yeah. Same with Litecoin. Ouch. [0:33:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. And what about Solana?... Good? [0:33:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bitwise Solana crushed it, bro. [0:33:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what I'm saying, man. Like, I feel like Solana is kind of the move. [0:33:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's the d gen. It's the d gen. Yeah. [0:33:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: We could see... [0:33:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I think I think it I think it brought in You know? What was it? Like, 600,000,000 or something? [0:33:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. But, I mean, the degens are gonna be degens. It did it did good. It did good. Yeah. [0:33:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And that's only the first day. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm... I did my part to help boost the volume of Bitwise Solana because I'm I'm a believer. So, you know, 0.2% fees with 7% staking included as a dividend. So, yeah, I'm a... I'm just gonna build that bag and earn that 7% dividend for Why don't you come [0:34:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: park some stables on Katana and earn 48% with me via Tater? [0:34:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Monica has a referral. USTC. [0:34:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. There is no referrals for Tater. [0:34:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, does she? Monica, you have a referral? [0:34:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: For Katana, I do. Oh. I don't know. Nobody's Tater. It's for... It via Tater, on... Directly on Katana. Money... Stop taking money out of my pockets. What the hell? I do wanna chat real quick. I do want... Samara, what what did you post up to? Yo, Samara is literally in bed with the quacks lady. Cool. Did you see this crazy asshole? It's not job. He's in bed with the quacks lady. Look what he pinned up top. [0:34:50] Samara @thee_samara: Hey. Yo. GM GM, guys. GM Dave, GM Cool, GM, NetNam, Monica, Brett, alpha game, meta b small. Shout out to you guys, man. Yeah. I mean, it's not, you know, but at least it's something. It's something. Yeah. That's my new girlfriend. Yeah. We've been seeing each other for a while. I just made it public this evening. So... Yeah. Yeah. You've been seeing her [0:35:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: social media officials. It's like that. [0:35:11] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Yeah. It's serious now. Yeah. We, like, we met two days ago, but it's true love. It's true love. But, yeah, man. GM guys. GM guys. Love the show. You know? I'm here. Yeah. Just listening and just, like [0:35:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. [0:35:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. Did you say you [0:35:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: met two days ago, but now it's official? [0:35:28] Samara @thee_samara: Yes. True love. Nice. [0:35:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: True love. I mean, he is a Solana deejin, so I I understand that. [0:35:32] Samara @thee_samara: Exactly. Yo. Shout out to Solana, man. Put some respect on Solana's name. Yeah. Shout out to Solana. Shout out the criminals too on Solana. Yeah. Let let me [0:35:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: It wouldn't be an ATC space if tomorrow... This shut us a lot. [0:35:47] Samara @thee_samara: You're a gym gym. [0:35:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it.... Terminals. [0:35:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys are retarded in that. Go for it. [0:35:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah, Dave. So I wanna double back on the NVIDIA news, and I I think it has a lot to do with partnerships. Right? We mentioned yesterday, we touched on it a little bit, like, why partnership and network and network and all of that is so important in business. We're literally seeing it happen now with NVIDIA. They've partnered with literally everyone. So if if they see, there's something that Palantir can use, they're like, okay. Let's partner with them. There's something that another company can use. Okay. Let's partner with them. That that has been their bread and butter literally all quarter long. And I think it's such a big move, all the partnerships that they're having, all the money that they're getting, all of the funding that they're getting. Because the CEO, he thinks, like, long term, and he thinks of... Like, for him, you could literally see, like, when he's making these moves, he's playing chess, not checkers, and he's winning big because of it. [0:36:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Oh, okay. So I have a quick question in regards to NVIDIA now. So if he's playing this three d chess that you're talking about, why did they make that move with Nokia? I I thought that company died along [0:37:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: the something we don't know. [0:37:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: They wanna use the balance sheet. It's very simple. I'm gonna invest $440,000,000 in your company today, and then you're gonna place an order for a 4... A 100,000,000 with NVIDIA. And then that 100,000,000 is gonna reflect an additional billion dollars in the market cap of NVIDIA, so it all works around. You get what I'm saying? This is how Washington was. [0:37:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You guys you guys you remember you guys remember the first you remember the first Nokia stuff? [0:37:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: The one that you could drop down for, like, 50 stories, and it'll just be fine? [0:37:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Absolutely. Yo. Leave snake alone. [0:37:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Snake alone. [0:37:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: You guys ever played snake and the snake got so big, it was, like, literally stuck? All you can do is, you know what? I have no idea what I'm talking about. Was born yesterday. [0:37:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't I don't know any 25 year old that knows what Nokia or Snake is. I'm just saying. Okay? Just be very careful [0:37:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: out here. Hey. That was a fun game, though. I ain't gonna lie. That was that was a good game. [0:37:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was alright. Nat, did you like that game? Uh-huh. What game? No idea what you're talking about. Yeah. She caught herself quick quick. She was like, wait a second. No. I do wanna also rub one thing in all of your faces for a hot second. [0:38:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wow. What a word choice. [0:38:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. Choice of words today. [0:38:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It's terrible. Pod, by [0:38:19] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: the way. Holy shit. [0:38:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. I know. I know. I know. Just bear with me for a second. But you could say, oh, the market's down. The market's this. The market's that. But do y'all remember story protocol? Okay? When I said story, you all said, yeah. No. No. No. No. [0:38:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. Of a dinosaur coin? Yeah. I remember that. [0:38:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was $13.14 dollars. Okay? Y'all were like, no, bro. It's got a use case. $4.86 right now, and it's on its way to the garbage I'm telling you. Okay? [0:38:48] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So how much money did you make on that short thing? [0:38:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I wish I had the money to do it, gamer. I have no balls to Bro, you called it, [0:38:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: and you didn't short it? [0:38:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, bro. I know. My point is Bro. The... I guess the way I make my my my emotional money is just by telling you guys, I told you so. Do do you want me [0:39:05] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: to go calculate it? No. No. Don't do that. [0:39:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. On a 150 x leverage? Oh, damn. [0:39:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Listen. We're gonna play the shit would a game. I'm just saying I told you so. Alright? Let... I'm not saying I could have been a millionaire. I didn't go that far. Let's not get crazy. The other thing I want to note too is don't forget Folks Finance has their TGE coming up November 6. If you guys were in here, you remember we had the founders a couple months ago over the summer or rather the cheat... The... Their head of marketing that was in here. I minted three of those keys. I actually gave one of them away. Gamer, funny enough, you know, the winner was? It was Mush. Mush was the winner of one of them, and I have three... I have two others. Yeah. Wow. Look. They said there's gonna be an allocation that comes along with these keys. They did them on a few different chains. The gold ones I'd... I minted were on AVACs. I think they're, like, two AVACs right now. It's, like, $40. So I don't know what kind of allocation it's gonna get or how folks is gonna do, but it might be worth taking a look at for everybody just in... Me, just in case. But, yeah, that's that's what I got there. What are the new stories? Who else came up over here? Let me see. Shaxe came up. Shaxe Bread's here. Bread, what's cooking, bro? [0:40:17] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo, dude. Then GM, then heads down, dude. I had to ship some dope shit, man. I'm so excited on this thing that we've we've been cranking on. Yeah. I I I think you've seen some of you've seen some of the alpha. You know? So, yeah, getting ready to ship that and then just kind of, like, had this idea last night and then built it today. And I think it's gonna be really, really cool. We gotta connect offline and, you know, chat about some shit. [0:40:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. 100%. Also, had a good chat with X Factor yesterday, and we gotta figure out something to do with, like, how to leverage Myriad without having to bet on Myriad, because we realized that, I'm not gonna say anything that's gonna cost me this, but let's just say there's not enough liquidity on Myriad for us to really make anything worthwhile. So Mhmm. For for of a day by [0:41:10] Bread @_ToastMalone: night side. Right now, yeah. But didn't they... I mean, they're in bed with BNB now. Right? So, like, bet you... The... Like, if my... Like, I don't know for a fact. I don't know if they've confirmed it or not, but it seems to me like that's a partner you align with for liquidity reasons. [0:41:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I hope so. I hope that is easy. You, like, puts... I mean, look. [0:41:29] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, speaking of Hold on. [0:41:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on, Gamer. Give me a second, my bro. Give me a second. Let me let me run the show. Let me run the show, please. Let me... Just give me a little bit. Yeah. I hope that daddy c z definitely does cut a check. Because, Gamer, I got I got a good story for you coming up. Don't worry. I hope daddy c z does cut a check, but as of right now, I think abstract... I'm talking about yesterday. Daddy abstract is the one that was essentially foot, like, probably footing the bill for all the crypto stuff, but there's no sports markets on there. So it doesn't make it easy to run a degen sports gambling space. You know what I'm saying? So, we're starting to try and see if we can maybe figure figure something else out. But in other news, and now that Coma is here, and and I'll say what's up to the rest, saw Cobra come up and Jack see whatever. Massive news today. Bitcoin has finally come to wall chain. Let me get... Me clap this up for us. Yay. And it just so happens these are actually my former clients. The Beyond team is absolutely just head and shoulders. Like, I mean, they're they're amazing dudes. Right? Like, I'm kinda proud of myself. I really partner with, like, smart people. I I really... Like, I've understood... I... Looking back at, like, like Flag me. [0:42:42] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Sorry. What what did [0:42:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: you say, David? [0:42:44] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Oh my god. [0:42:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: What what have you done for me lately, Capybara? What have you done for me lately? That's what I wanna know. [0:42:49] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Oh, sorry. Please continue. I I interrupted. My bad. [0:42:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. Happy [0:42:52] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: to interrupt. [0:42:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm I'm literally on the corner out here shaking ass so that you can revel in all of your referral quacks. Okay? So don't forget the little people when the ones that were hustling on the corner for you that you were, like, slapping with your pin pan being, get out there and go get more quacks. And we were like, okay, Koma. You know what mean?... [0:43:09] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Idea right there, actually. [0:43:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, I don't even think Koma's arms are long enough to to slap anything. [0:43:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it. [0:43:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: This is true. It's [0:43:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: pleasant. You. No. But... Cool. What do we think about Bitcoin coming to Wallchain, bro? Like, big deal. Yeah, bro. I... Yeah. [0:43:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: This is another project, man, to, to get on. It's, it is it is pretty crazy. Wall chain is dropping brand new projects every, like, every week now. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. No. And they're giving away 4%, man, I think. Right? Yeah. About... I think, yeah, 4% of their, of of token supply or whatever goes to crackers. So, yeah, it's gonna be another big campaign. People are excited. I I have nothing to say, but watch as you can in lately. And, yeah, I saw some... Saw the whole title thing. So I think launched. It was launched. They they had a presale on title, and it was supposed to be, like, a $500,000,000 f... FTV, and they launched, like, a 40 mil... I mean, people lost money. Even... I think I don't even... I think I lost money too. But people lost money on that. Yeah. So I think, where where Kaito fails, war changes keeps hitting touchdown after touchdown to touchdown, and, more projects are gonna come to war changes. Like I said, if you have a x four above five fifty, just to get to work, man. You know what to do. Just get to work because they they... There's money to be made over there, man, right now. [0:44:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: That... And and and [0:44:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: you see, that's the reason why, for Norjo, I don't know what the price of be... Bitcoin is or Ethereum is because blockchain has kept me busy. I I I don't have time to pick up prices when [0:44:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm good, actually. [0:44:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: Busy on on on 10 leaderboards, man. So I'm trying to maintain it because if you slack on one leaderboard, you would fall down a 180 spots. That happens all the time. So I... I'm just checking and enjoying this, watching environment. But, yeah, I have no time if you would check the prices right now, bro. And like I said, it's it's... This is really really cool, though, that you have in a a big... The first big one project comes watching, so pretty cool. [0:45:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love it. Hold on one quick second, Nat. I saw the SongJam DJ. I don't know if that's Adam, if that's a real automated account, or who's behind that, or what I need to do. But, hello, SongJam DJ test? [0:45:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Anything? Yeah. That [0:45:40] Shaksi @shaksi: might have been me, actually. Who said that? Oh, Shaqxi. Yeah. Shaqxi. [0:45:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro. Yeah. Wait. Mommy. Wait. You put that in here? [0:45:52] Shaksi @shaksi: Yeah. Apparently, when you are in a space, you can request the song... The account to come into the room and request the [0:46:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I thought it was only... Interesting. I thought it was only for coats and cohosts. That's really interesting. Okay. Good to know. [0:46:09] Shaksi @shaksi: Not. Anybody can get that in there, but I... Just trying out, so my bad. [0:46:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're Alright. Good stuff. Yeah, Nat. Go for [0:46:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: it. [0:46:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is this reward bigger than aligners' reward? Because I know aligners was prior to this potentially... [0:46:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: You bite your tongue, woman. You bite your tongue first and foremost, number one. No. It is not. Well, who knows where the price is gonna end up. Right? I have no idea. [0:46:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: But... It might be bigger. You... If if it's 4% of the supply But [0:46:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: it's over two epics. It's over two epochs. Right? Like [0:46:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. But... Yeah. No. No. But I think if if you if you are a leaderboard and you make it into whatever, all the three epochs or three, It's a lot of liquidity they're giving away to Quackers, you know, from from this. So 4%, not small, [0:46:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: but... Yeah? [0:46:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Agreed. And and it's and it's going to the top one twenty five. So it's not the top 1,000. Right? So I think at the end of the day, like, yeah, we have to do a little bit of math, but I think overall, like, aligners having the supply that they have, like, I I can't imagine beyond having 26,000,000 or less. You know what I mean? And and, essentially, like, what they're gonna give out. And I'm assuming their FTV is not gonna be anywhere near. Like, it's gonna be, like, insane, like, way, way, way over what the aligners campaign is gonna be... What's it called that? It's gonna... It's gonna be valued at, like, initially or where they're gonna raise. So because Beyond has been building for a minute. If y'all remember, like, I was in spaces with the Beyond team, and it was me, LayerZero, Magic Eden. Like, these are heavy, heavy hitters out here. So, yeah, they're they're out here trying to make some real, real waves. It's just gonna be interesting to see how... What I find interesting about, like, Wallchain is, like, when I look at what Covalent did, like, if shit's not interesting and, like, the degens can't play with the tool or really understand the tool, it's... It makes it hard, which is why, like, I think aligners is gonna be difficult. But I think, eventually, like, you have to put the work in for people to get it. If they're just tweeting about the same stuff and not using it, the... It's gonna die. Limitless did great. Right? Or at least good. People ate. Hey, Elsa's probably gonna be amazing. Avantis, Cook, people were using these platforms. But I generally don't know if, like, you know, like, tech or infrastructure plays are the way to go for wall chain, like bridges. I don't know. I I don't know. I've yet to see. But, yeah, Gamer, I would love your take on it, bro. Go for it. [0:48:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, I think this is the one where I had, I don't know, like, eight. Right? And I didn't even do anything except [0:48:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [0:48:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Couple things. But... Yeah. No. That's great. Yeah. Keep... Just keep keep us informed on when that actually drops so I can, you know, cash out on this thing. [0:48:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: But I do throw up top, you [0:48:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: guys are talking about Binance. So I saw that they just integrated Bubblehead into Binance. So now you can actually go go look and see which wallets are rugging you when you're, you know, playing around and, you know, when you're playing around with this stuff that's connected to Binance. So that's interesting. Oh, and then when you were talking about Avalanche, I did post up here about Japan, and they have, like, a 2,000,000,000,000 with a t, $2,000,000,000,000 company processor, TIS, is gonna launch stablecoins, and they're using Avalanche. Well, it's a subnet. Right? So... But I did I did throw that up there because you you know, we're talking about that. And then I just saw... Looks like Trump made a deal with South Korea for $350,000,000,000. So... Yeah. [0:49:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. Shaqzi, good stuff. Thanks, Gamer. I feel like Gamer researches so much stuff that this is, like, his therapy where he gets to come here and just, like, he needs to get it out. You know what mean? It's just, I need to just, like... Yeah. I kinda love that. I can't get mad at you [0:50:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: for too because it means, like, he's ready, and he's he's excited for the space. [0:50:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I like it. I like it. I can't get mad at you for it. Although, I wanna kill you when you kill my flow of the show, but I love the [0:50:14] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And and, actually, this is true. I just regurgitate all this. I I just... There's too much data. Yeah. He said you allow me to vent and just regurgitate all this stuff. [0:50:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: The bill's in the mail. The same way Nat Nat is finding people for cursing, I find... I I essentially send you a bill for therapy, bro. That's how this works. Good stuff. Shaqxi, anything on... I think Gamer just said Tron news, but any... Anything that... Any news that you got? Like, you just came up shoot the shit, or you got anything for us? Happy to to just obviously be here, but of course. [0:50:46] Shaksi @shaksi: No. I I was lurking. Looking around. I was gonna mention the Tron news, but I did go in there. There's still some backlash on that. I think it's great for Tron, but it's backlash in terms of, c d... Like, they're making it a CDC kind of approach. So we've we've seen, you know, the kind of issues with CDCs in different banks that kinda exist, but I'm sure the likes of Nana and Coke might be able to put more on that. I know we don't like CDC. I'm... Yeah. But, yeah, I also wanted to touch touch on Lurky a little bit as well. I've been lurking around on that app, loving it. I was in in the space earlier where you guys were chatting on that and maybe, yeah, once the big news is out out of the way. [0:51:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Did anybody... Did you guys did you guys check... The the Lurky claim was live. Did y'all check? Cool. Did you go check Lurky by any chance? Did you did you get any sort of allocation for Lurky? You know, the the the space [0:51:50] Shaksi @shaksi: I only got, like, a 100 points, but I'm I'm being a bit cheeky at the moment. And I don't know if anybody... I've seen... There's that reverb aspect of it as well. So I grabbed some reverb. [0:52:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I've been using this app since jump, Shaxi, literally since day one, and I got 8,700 freaking tokens, bro. I'm like, yo. The FUD campaign needs to start today. But I'll let Ed say that. I capped. I I was full of shit on this page. I was like, great job, man. I was like, k. Stop. [0:52:16] Shaksi @shaksi: DMs. Don't worry. Yeah. 50 k's on the way. [0:52:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Damn. [0:52:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. I mean, dude, [0:52:25] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: I mean, I just got wrecked by Novostro. I'm not saying anything. I'm just... It is what it is, Dave. No crying in [0:52:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the casino. [0:52:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Could... Could you just say, [0:52:33] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: no no crying in the casino. We just move on. [0:52:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right. What... No. But can you tell us what happened with Avastro? Like, what did... How did... What were the mechanics behind this? I don't understand. They raised at a certain number, and then they TGE ed at another... At a lower valuation? [0:52:47] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Yeah. It's kinda bonkers. I've never seen this before. And it... Basically, they raised that 50 mil valuation, and that was what the previous round was. I And was like, okay. Cool. Like, you know, it's a project on the InflowFy platform. 50 mil is... It's a lot, but it's not really a lot. You know what I mean? Especially for, like, a bigger project. It... Like, the the golden goal is to be at the 1,000,000,000, right, at the end of the day. So I thought it was relatively safe. It was like, you know, just easy potential two x get in, get out kinda kinda scenario. But little did I know, like, they were... You know, they... We... I got got. You know? Like, they they they let us claim an hour before it want... It went into any of the central exchanges. And then... But then there was no liquidity anywhere, so you couldn't even trade it on the DeFi platforms. And then once they put in the liquidity, like, all of these people already started selling, like, 77 k clips. Like, this crime was insane. And then the guy was, like, saying, like, oh, we put a million dollars in the liquidity pool, blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, yeah. But just... Like like... And then the... Apparently, like, exchanges, they always start off at a lower valuation. So it it gets excitement. That's what he was claiming. It gets excitement going when they see a huge green wick candle. But I'm like, dude, but you you, like, executed so horribly. And literally, I woke up at, like, four in the morning, five in the morning, not because I was excited about, like, selling at a profit, but they they delayed the TGE so many times. I was like, god, I really hope I could just get my money back. And of course, I didn't get my money back. I lost money. And it's like this this project's a joke. Like, I'm looking at it on coin market cap. The FTVs at $1,919,000,000. Like, what the fuck, man? That's insane. This is like like... I freaking Tibber, which is in stealth mode, is... And has, no, like, news or no founder saying blah blah blah or anything. It's literally at 300 something million. Like... And then this guy, the the founder has the audacity to be like, okay. We got all the cheaters out. Now we have the long term believers. Like, trust me. You'll you'll know. You won't regret, like, being with us for for blah blah blah. And it's just like, dude, look at your fucking chart, you fucking loser. Like, at the end... I know. Sorry. I cursed Nat. Dave will cover that chart for me because he has, what, 8,000 [0:55:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I will not. I [0:55:15] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: will not. Levy points or something, lurky points, lurker points, creeper points. I don't know. But one way or another, he has points that he could give you. But, yeah, it was it was it was a bad one. I saw the red flags before, but I thought it was still... You know, I thought it would be okay because, you know, who who to best invest than criminals. Right? Tamara? Like, you thought the criminals would support you in some way, one one way or another. So I thought it would be a quick two x, but it was actually quick two x the other way around. So... Yeah. [0:55:46] Samara @thee_samara: I only do business. I only do business with reputable criminals. Those guys aren't reputable, bro. Like, they're [0:55:52] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: the Yeah. That's the problem. Yeah. We need reputable criminals that always win. [0:55:55] Samara @thee_samara: Exactly. Exactly. [0:55:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Reputable criminals. [0:55:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Guys... [0:56:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Beth, do you hear what's going on here? [0:56:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do hear, but you know what? It's Tamara, and I think by now, he kinda gets a pass for it. You know, his name is synonymous with criminals and BBLs, so it's fine. But I did I did wanna mention with regards to Lurkey, I saw that they were doing an airdrop and just to see how much we how much we can claim. So I clicked on it, and it wanted to have access to my ex. And I read the disclaimer, and it said this company will now have access to your DMs, to your post, to your settings, to your photos. I'm like, woah. Wait a minute. I don't need Lurkey tokens that bad. So I kinda No. [0:56:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Hold up. [0:56:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: With it. [0:56:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Was the approval, like like, to be able to write DMs? Like, wait. DMs? [0:56:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So they'll be able to see... I don't think they can see it. They won't be able to write it, but they can see, like, all of our information once we gave them once we gave them access to our x. [0:56:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Read access, not write access. [0:56:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Read access. [0:57:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm I'm an open bug. Like, I'm a... I am a slut out here. I'm just like, yep. You get... You could take it as long as you try and make my life easier. But, yeah, I... I've been working with the song jam guy to try and, like, build an ATC dashboard to see, like, what we could do to try and monetize shit. And I think he's building us a prototype, by the way. So, yeah, we might be the first ones to be able, like, to pilot it, which would be hella dope. Like, being able to plug our spaces in, being able to get, like... You know, essentially, there's gonna be speakers that might wanna come up and speak. So Hunger Games? [0:57:35] Shaksi @shaksi: No. [0:57:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's x files. What... What's the Hunger Games? What's... Whatever. But you get it. May the odds be ever in your favor. You're gonna have to fight amongst each other. [0:57:46] Shaksi @shaksi: Oh, also on the on the Songdam thing, was just noticing you can, in theory, start having advertisements within conversations. So putting a limiter in, so $10, $20, whatever. I noticed also when someone does a donation... So they've got the basics in place. If you do a donation, you could be notified of that donation. So, again, monetizing, the whole spaces and such is gonna be interesting. Of course, with anyone, the monetization comes in, everybody goes overboard, but over time, it usually stabilizes. [0:58:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it. Yeah. But, also, the virtual's ecosystem is way too complex, bro. It's, like, so, like... Bro, I don't even wanna know. I I asked him. I'm like, Can normally... Yeah. [0:58:33] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Can I just say that I think virtual's [0:58:35] Shaksi @shaksi: Yeah? [0:58:35] Voice I: I tried to be cheeky. [0:58:37] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Sorry. Go ahead, mister cheeky. Go on. Go for it. Go for it. Please. [0:58:43] Shaksi @shaksi: Try to be cheeky because I was like, oh, wait. I've got shit. I didn't got any points, so I'm going to... I saw that they allow you to convert your reverb to LUX. So I went... I was trying to buy it. And they've got virtuals in... On Solana and Base and Ethereum. And I initially bought it on the... In Solana, but you can't use that to buy other coins on that platform. So you have... It has to be base based USDC. Sorry. Base based virtuals, and then only then can you buy other coins. And I was just so fucking long winded. I'm like, well, you could have made this simpler. But in the end, I was able to buy virtuals then convert them to Reverb then check out on the Lurky website, and it did tell me, yes, you have, you know, 3,000,000, but that 3,000,000 will only be 45,000 lurkeys, which isn't too bad. I don't even know what it's going to be worth. [0:59:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got the 8,700, bro, and I pioneered the platform. I was the first guy testing it, so don't feel bad. Some bullshit. [0:59:44] Shaksi @shaksi: You you you big bowl... Big mouth and, you know, nonexistent. Yeah. [0:59:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know, you're right, bro. [0:59:50] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: What what do you guys do in this very bad case scenario that aligners, you know, just doesn't meet your expectations? Like, what what is the next arc [1:00:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: to be? [1:00:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, is is it gonna be, like, are [1:00:04] Shaksi @shaksi: you gonna change to your... [1:00:06] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Are you gonna change your PFP to poor man's Batman? That that helmet thing? [1:00:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: That was the nicest way of saying rug I've ever heard in my life. [1:00:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm a let y'all have it. [1:00:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: I feel... I would feel okay being rugged if it was presented like that. [1:00:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I'm a I'm a let y'all [1:00:18] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: have it. I I don't want... I know this is a sensitive topic. So... You know, because Dave has put his heart and soul into it. So I just wanna, you know... [1:00:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: You wanna you wanna step you wanna step and crush it. You wanna rip it out and step... Put it on the ground and step all over it. I get it. It's fine. [1:00:31] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: I I feel like some Sora videos will come up with the [1:00:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. The Sora videos would be crazy. The FUD would be so real. But, no. There will be no FUD. No FUD. Actually had a conversation this morning with Roger, and believe it or not, the chief multimedia officer does come with a very nice package, that does not have... That comes with really nice things, that comes with equity, that comes with USDC, that comes with bonuses, that comes with multipliers. So your boy got taken care of. You know? [1:01:00] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Can I ask you a question? Why did they name it chief a chief multimedia officer and then a chief marketing officer? Like, how do we know who we're talking about when I say I know the CMO? Like... [1:01:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Obviously, like, multimedia speaks for its... I have no idea. Call [1:01:15] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: them, bro.... Or CMOs? This is how you know [1:01:19] Shaksi @shaksi: this person was born in the eighties and shit. [1:01:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who? Me or the the person that [1:01:25] Shaksi @shaksi: came multimedia. Like, it was like multimedia and marketing. That's like that. Listen. [1:01:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Y'all can fuddle you on. Okay? By the way, can [1:01:32] Shaksi @shaksi: I just fan fanboy for [1:01:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: a second? Wait. Oh, for... Over me? [1:01:35] Bread @_ToastMalone: For sure. [1:01:36] Shaksi @shaksi: Dave, I love you, but, you know, I come to this the ATC club just for Landy's and Nat Nats commentary. I just sit there, and usually, it's around 01:30 in the morning, 2AM, and you guys drop some knowledge bombs, and I really appreciate it. Thank you. [1:01:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo, Shaqxi, I'm gonna take this fine. Fuck you, bro. Landy, go for it. [1:01:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, hello. I hope everyone's having fun today. Dave, it's great to see you. Cool. Nat Nat. It's always a pleasure. You know I love everyone else here on stage, Coma. I actually will answer you for Dave. He... Him and I have actually been in discussions in the background in case something doesn't go right because traders also have very large packages. And and we... Pies. No. We we we have very large packages we can offer you, Alpha. Might you might think that your package has a lot of energy, but ours is very large. Pause. And, you know, we we we have determined that Dave would be willing to learn technical analysis, specifically Ah. Which which which inverted herp and derp he should [1:02:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: be [1:02:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: trading. And... Oh. Yeah. That [1:02:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: sounds contagious. [1:02:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Sequencer, he should be longing and trading. [1:02:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Wait. Who's gonna who's gonna launch the package? I don't... What? Sorry. I'm I'm in my... [1:03:03] Bread @_ToastMalone: I've been itching to learn about that. Wait. [1:03:05] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I got I got confused. What... [1:03:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's going on with this? Of course. Oh, but, guys You know? Look who... Look at... Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Landy, and then I'll go to Roger. It's just... [1:03:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. I missed you. I don't know. The comments back to me were great. I love it. But, yeah. You know? Hey. I hope that everybody has been paying attention to the things that Nat Nat and I say about where price is gonna go because it literally went exactly into the areas sweet spot. [1:03:35] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Tired of [1:03:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: this. I'm really getting tired. This is getting old now. Like, was [1:03:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: it was it just the tip? Was Because [1:03:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: this whole me and Nat Nat keep winning thing has gotten really old. I... Like, I [1:03:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: need to see I'm keep winning. [1:03:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: We do keep winning. [1:03:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, also, like, then stop fining me. Right? Like, if you win, then let me win with you. [1:03:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: But you're winning, like, quadruple times. Oh, we are winning. [1:03:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mister CMO. That's that's not right. That is... [1:03:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know. [1:03:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe. I might be. [1:03:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Actually, you win [1:04:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: a lot. Know Steve. Yeah. It might be. [1:04:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Roger, you're there? Roger's on stage now? So you're you're telling me that when Nat Nat and I offer you our big packages, you go out to Roger and they're like, well, I love the big Roger. Right? Like, this is... Listen. Listen. [1:04:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Roger, see what I deal with? You see what I deal with? [1:04:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: We love you, Dave. When we talk about the levels on the chart, that's a little hint that you wanna go and, you know, like, maybe mark up the chart and go, you know what? I don't feel like actually doing this. [1:04:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you dare say the Wolf's Space, then I swear to god. Hey. Who's mark... [1:04:35] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Who's market making the aligners? [1:04:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wolf's Space. Is it Landy? [1:04:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. But thank god. There is no market makers on aligners. Thank god. Jesus. Hey. [1:04:44] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: We were just educating about the aligners right there. That's what I was waiting for, Dave. There are no market makers, guys. [1:04:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can't get rugged by a puppet. Market makers. Exactly. Imagine getting rugged by a puppet. You wanna know how... What it feels like? You're looking at it. You're listening to it. Fucking Zoran rubbed my whole shit. [1:04:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: He took... Landy took all his equipment. [1:05:02] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: To be fair, he said he was gonna do it. I mean, he dropped it [1:05:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: in the chat. I took it. [1:05:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. So, dude, your your case is really down about about how much? [1:05:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: The zor... The... I don't even check today, bro. But, like, yesterday, it was down 56%. [1:05:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: Because yesterday, you got, like, $3.03 Kenya. Right? It's the money... How much you got over? [1:05:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I had 2,400, and then literally the next day when Landy said I'm porting over a 100 sold, I literally had $1,200 the next day, bro. Like, it's fucking bullshit. [1:05:28] Shaksi @shaksi: I mean, [1:05:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: who doesn't take care of their friend? Who does their friends that? Bro, if you told me... He told [1:05:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: you, dude. [1:05:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: He gave you a twenty four hour heads up. I mean, that's that's that's really... That's bullshit. I gave him... I gave him [1:05:38] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: two days. [1:05:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shut up. Everybody shut up and let Nat talk. Go ahead, Nat. [1:05:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: To be fair, Dave, there was only, like, three people in that project. Right? You and the founder along with the cofounder because there was nobody else. [1:05:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: There was there was there was, like, 27 holders and 25 of them were Landy's ghost walkers, bro. Come on. Come on. Let me shut the fuck. Let me shut up. I'm like, damn. [1:05:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Dave, to be fair, yeah, I was here telling you to pull profits. [1:06:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: In all fairness, guys, I'm gonna give you all the big middle finger right now because it's up another 90% again back up. [1:06:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's baby over the next [1:06:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: twenty six fifty. Boop. [1:06:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's back to where it was. [1:06:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You don't come up. You take [1:06:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: profits this time, my friend. [1:06:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: You are not gonna the teacher of me. You understand? Better both on profit day. Teacher of me. Alright? [1:06:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Before that third person. Imagine the third person in that project decides to take profit. It'll go all the way. [1:06:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Meta Beast would be a damn thing if if Landy if Landy runs his dick. Meta Beast asked me, am I going... Am I riding? And I said, Meta Beast, until the election, there's another week and a half or another ten days or so to go... Another five, six days to go until election day. I'm going until the wheels fall off. Because if this dude does get elected, which he actually might, as crazy as that sounds, even though Cuomo has closed the lead, he's probably gonna get elected. Bro, this thing is [1:06:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yo, Dave. [1:06:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. [1:06:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Dave, is this on Binance? [1:06:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, bro. Come on. It's on the crime chain. It's Samarra. [1:06:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I No. No. The reason why I asked is because then we could actually go look at the bubble maps and see [1:07:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's like bubble maps. [1:07:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Insiders have [1:07:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. Bubble maps. [1:07:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, hey. [1:07:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, by the way market cap. Thank goodness that bubble maps are on BNB now. There's no more crime. Good thing bubble maps [1:07:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: came out. [1:07:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: My god. Thank god. Yeah. Got the bubble map. [1:07:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Our guests, please. Thank you. Roger, welcome to the shit show. That is all things crypto, but it's good to have you, sir. Can you tell these people, like, what's up, please? They're like, oh, call me. It's like, oh, little copy bar arm telling me, what if this doesn't work out? Which I love him for, actually. I gotta be honest because this is what we know that was in the scene. [1:07:31] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: I was quiet the whole time because I didn't wanna, you know [1:07:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, look at you back at [1:07:35] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the bottom. At you. We're gonna go [1:07:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: to Homer Simpson. Get back into [1:07:39] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: the All the all the [1:07:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: things we do like. [1:07:41] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Roger Roger shows up and the [1:07:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: narrative changes the Roger shows up and you, Homer Simpson, right into the bush. Roger, what's up? [1:07:47] Voice I: What's up? Everything's fine. Thanks, Scott. [1:07:51] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Oh, he's dead, bro. Look [1:07:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: at the dead coma. [1:07:54] Voice I: It's coma. It's coma. We need... We are desperate to find the chief multimedia officer, actually. It's not like something we are we are trying to Oh, new one? Are you saying [1:08:06] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: you need a new one, or are are you saying [1:08:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. We already have Sebastian. [1:08:10] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Okay. Good. Good. I I was just trying to... I thought you were already looking for a second. [1:08:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Sure. Come Sorry. Yeah. [1:08:17] Voice I: It's come up. Aligners is a rabbit hole. It's not easy to digest. Therefore, we have to create some visual content, and we are hosting on a daily basis almost AMAs. Not every marketing is is the same. So what what I want to say, there is a visual part, and there is a written part. There's a visual part. I believe Dave is very suitable and very aligned with our vision, with our mission, [1:09:00] Shaksi @shaksi: with our mission. [1:09:01] Voice I: And we have to educate the people visually, and not only on Crypto Twitter. So, therefore, we will have our own YouTube channel, and they will be taking care for it. We'll be creating ton... Content on it. Therefore, users who did not use our solution and our feature will get a place to get educated before a ping and using our platform. So I suggest if you want to know more why we decided that Dave is a suitable guy for this position, I suggest to test our platform and see how strange it is to to serve on it at at start. [1:09:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: You Do wanna know what's crazy, Roger? Wait. Wait, Coma. Hold on. Let me... I I need one final cook, [1:09:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: and then [1:09:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: you got it. Wait. No. No. You deserve this one because you are one of the 26. Nat Nat is not one of the 26. Nat Nat has been cohosting for the last three weeks in a row testing out the DAT. Coma, where have you been on Saturdays? Just FYI, just out of curiosity. Damn.... Morning. [1:10:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: My nine [1:10:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: to five [1:10:16] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: so I could keep my job, sir, so I could continue to attend these spaces. [1:10:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead, copy, Mara. Say your piece. [1:10:22] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Alright. Well, first of all, I have a bit of sarcasm, like the space a little bit about Dave's abilities, but I do know that I'm sure that he is good at what he does. So, yeah, kudos to you, Dave. I know I'm being a little bit serious right now, and that's actually [1:10:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: very honest. He said a little bit. [1:10:43] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: So I'm very... I know that... Especially with the AI stuff, I know that you could, like, pretty much kill any type of multimedia stuff. But the second thing I will give feedback on is if it is too complicated, even as a software developer myself, you have to educate. And if you can't educate, then it just needs to work without any, like, there's like this... I don't know if you ever heard about this, but there's this guy who used to charge a shit ton of money where he'll test your app while he's drunk. And his his his reasoning is if I can't use your app when I'm drunk, then it's a shitty app. So I'd say, like Love that. If there's a way to to simplify your [1:11:22] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: That's amazing. [1:11:23] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: App where everybody can actually use it, that's the best way to that's the best way to [1:11:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. So Homo, you just gave me the best Aligners, [1:11:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: like, screaming bro. X factor. We're teaming [1:11:35] Voice I: up this. [1:11:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: We got the new So... [1:11:37] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: But... And by the way, the history behind that guy, he stopped doing it because he kept charging so much money. But the problem was people kept kept still paying him money. So he was getting paid so much, but then he just... His liver couldn't handle it anymore. So he basically said, I can't do this. I can't be drunk, like, pretty much every day. Like, I need a life. [1:11:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is great. I have tons of degenerate friends. We can talk to you. Right? Dude? You one Friday, see another Friday. Dude. We'll take we'll take we'll take turns, and we'll provide two perspectives. Hold on, baby. Hold on, baby. One second. That sounds We'll we'll we'll provide [1:12:06] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: the drunk perspective and the real perspective of, like, somebody that's not drunk. It'll be great. Yeah. I guess I guess TLDR is, like, we got... We have to learn how to simplify apps as much as possible, especially in [1:12:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: what Yeah. [1:12:16] Voice I: Yeah. It's so much simplified already, and we... And since we are conducting the testing session, we are also simplifying even even more. But when anyone use a new concept, even if it is easy to use, it will require him, like, to spend more time learning. And a good example on music is driving glass. Even if you learned well how to drive, the first time you drive a car, you will not be fully able to to use it. You will feel that you are not well [1:13:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Adjusted. [1:13:07] Voice I: Yeah. Adjusted. So similarly in our app, it's very simple for me. I see it as simple as... You can use it while even being drunk. But for someone who who come and use it for the first time, even if he knows what the system is, it will be something strange. And he must, he need a little time just to get used to it. Therefore, Dave will step in, and he will educate the people on it even before we launch. So using our platform will become much more soft, if you want. The impact will be minimum. [1:13:53] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, flowers to Dave. I know I'm... I know I fuck around a lot. He's gotta pay for that as well. But... Yes. [1:14:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'd like to... For you all to refer to me from this point forward as either the IWO king or c suite master. I've I've been thinking about those all day. But, yes, Landy, please go ahead. [1:14:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I... You know, speaking of weird, it was very weird to hear, just a second, babe, out of, x factor's mouth as soon as you went [1:14:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: to unmute and say something. [1:14:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: That was definitely weird. So, know, we could all get used to different things, and that maybe we can get used to that over time too between you and x factor, Dave. But I actually did wanna say congratulations because that's... This is a congratulations to two. One being the aligners team because you get Dave, who is elite. And, Dave, congratulations, brother. Like, you work your ass off in this space. People know exactly who you are and the value you bring, and that's that's real. Like, I know coma finally, like, being serious for once. A serious capybara? Like, I... That's wild to me. I've never seen one before. The last I saw of coma, he was assaulting you in a bathroom when when we found out that you were genderless. And so [1:15:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: you mean my resume, my submission video for the CMO position? [1:15:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. Yeah. That was wild, by the way. That's a wild work right [1:15:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: there. [1:15:27] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: I feel like I deserve some credit in in that because, you [1:15:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: know Yeah. That's you're one of other [1:15:30] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: ones to be on the side. [1:15:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: I knew knew Pablo was gonna unmute. He was like, look at look at... [1:15:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was just I create copy bar video every day. Today's video was there's a bunch of copy bars falling off the back of a truck and land on my car, And, essentially, it's Coma with, like, his his copy bar with a pink and black tuxedo on that is on [1:15:46] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: the windshield. Image and likeness. I should be getting paid for this. [1:15:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know? Yeah. It's it's definitely it's evocative of your image and likeness, but he's... It's... These are real capybaras. Right? Like, in... And unless you star in a movie, like Disney style, where you go from animated to, like, real, like, you're like the Lion King or something, you have no case. Can tell you this because I'm I'm a puppet lawyer now. [1:16:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: Bye bye. Bye, Rihanna. [1:16:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: But for real, though, congratulations. Also that's I'm crossing over spaces with this one as well when I tell you congratulations. [1:16:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Take care. Thank you, bro. Appreciate it. Guys, we also have LeBron James' neighbor in the house. Who else do... Who forgets Geek Planet? Yo. Geek Planet. Welcome back, bro. What's good? How's LeBron? What's news? [1:16:42] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: Hey. What's going on, Dave? I wasn't really... Wanted to talk about LeBron James. But, yeah, since you mentioned that, I haven't seen him for a long time. Just kidding. [1:16:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. What's good, man? How are you? [1:16:56] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: But, yeah, pretty good. Actually, I have a quick question for Colma. Are you are you a dev... Developer and a fan? Like, because, you sounded really like, one of the, people who interviewed me long time ago. By the way, I'm a funnel funnel engineer as well. [1:17:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Comma? [1:17:19] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: No comment. But, yes, I do work at Fang, so this is pretty funny. [1:17:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, not that it says that on your Twitter page or anything. Right? It literally says on the top, and I quote, f e dev f. [1:17:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: That that... You know what I really [1:17:36] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: You know, f e could mean a lot of different things. You know you know [1:17:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold on, comma. Coma, all I heard was fun engineer. And I was like, oh my god. The fundamentals of fun. They engineer the fun. And then I was like, wait. That can't be what he said. [1:17:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Geek... Wait. Geek... Geek Planet, does... You say... You think Coma interviewed you? Coma, do you interview him? [1:17:57] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: No. No. As... I I was just saying, he... His sound... His English pronunciation is... And the way he speaks, it's just like those fan... Like senior engineers, like, you know, when you were interviewed with them. That's what I... It's a vibe. [1:18:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. And where do you where do where do you think Coma lives so we know exactly? Like, you have a street name? No. Coma. If I find that Coma lives next door to LeBron James, Coma, you are in so much trouble, bro. I swear to god. If you are out here moonlighting up... Down here with the plebs and you live next door to LeBron James, I swear to God, bro. [1:18:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, if anyone lives quiet. If anyone lives next to LeBron James, can you give him a message? Can you tell him to stop flopping and pass the ball, please? Because it's so frustrating. [1:18:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. He's gotta play off [1:18:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: the ball. Hogging the ball. And, like, flopping flopping every time. Like, somebody touches him. He, like, throws himself [1:18:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: on the floor. Nat. Nat. [1:18:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: I need the over on the flops. Alright? I need the over on the flops. Look. [1:18:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: He owes us a lot much innuendo in this episode. Way too much. Really way too much. It's too much. [1:19:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Good for Scottie Pippen. I didn't know how much was [1:19:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: supposed fall. Don't you dare. Don't you dare right now. Let me go buy the ball token. But hold on. Geek Planet, real quick, I did wanna chat with you because you you... I I remember you because, like, we had a really great conversation, and I remember I was the one who put you on to sue network. Right? And when you were here, bro, that shit was 15. But, like, the second you left, couple days later, that shit went crazy, bro. That went absolutely nuts. And I'm like, wait a minute. Because the way in which you [1:19:33] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: What network... What project are you talking about? [1:19:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Soon token, s o o n. [1:19:38] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: S o o o. That that that one. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, you know what? I didn't pay too much attention to that project until... That was quite a random. Like, I saw a job posting in my WeChat,, which is WeChat, like, pop circle type thing. And I happen to saw... I I was doing the research on that project, and I happen to see the founder or the cofounder of that project. It's actually Asian... I think Chinese American. So that's why that's why I kinda, like, you know, look into that, and I can't really remember why I share that in the space. But, yeah, that's that's that's one of the projects that I... I'm actually still pretty positive is... Yeah. What what they are trying to do is they're trying to... They... They're building a OP, like, roll up on top of Solana, which is pretty [1:20:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. I was the one who put you on. If you remember, you're like, wait a minute. What is Solana Solana l two? And I was like, yeah. Because the day before, we had Joanna on. We had the founder on. [1:20:48] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: Oh, yeah. Yeah. [1:20:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And we actually, yeah, and we actually just gave her her props recently too because during that whole market crash and everything that happened a couple weeks ago, it was, like, some certain tokens kinda stood out throughout that whole thing. And it was that, like, Joanna was smart because she doesn't have, like, nonsense knucklehead market makers that are essentially, like, you know, that she gave tokens to. She's been in this Coinbase game for a minute, so she has her own team that she probably pays to be able to actually do this. So, yeah. But but it's good to see. Deeppoint, I did have one question for you before I go to Metabeast. Are you gonna be in New York for the, Andrew Nye, AI conference on November 14 by any chance? I'm actually gonna be giving a demo. [1:21:31] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: I'm not... This is my first time here in that conference, But since you mentioned that, am I looking into that? But I do have some family business around mid November where you need to kinda have me to stay in Ohio. So let's see. Yeah. [1:21:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Should [1:21:48] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: Yeah. Me the more details on that conference. I'll [1:21:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll do that. Yeah. You got it. If I give you... If if there's a token involved somewhere and you're gonna put it in one of the the cook groups, one of the Asian cook groups, so hook me up. You know what saying? Give me a heads up, bro. Because last time I told you about Soon, it was $15.20 cents. That thing went to, like, a dollar and 15¢. How can I hook a brother up? You know? A little inside info. No. But Geek Planet is good to have you back. Meta Beast, go for it, bro. What's good? I I just had to come up and say hello to Geek Planet. It's really cool to see a fellow Nyling appear on stage. Oh. Is that the PIP? [1:22:25] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: Yeah. It's it's it's my p... Yes. PIP. Yeah. It's it's... This one is actually really popular in my, in our Asian, crypto community, especially nftcom... Community. Yeah. One of the artists from New York... Well, actually, Toronto, we actually did a quite a bit re... Redesign or, you know, second creation of this collection. So which made... And actually another one of our community member actually made a a couple of people actually made a game out of this. So it was pretty pretty fun. [1:23:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's go. I like that. [1:23:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I like [1:23:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. I like it. I... I'm gonna set this place on fire right now. It was what I'm about to tell y'all. So, guys, I'm having a discussion with with with Ninja, right, in the chat, and I wanna hear what you guys genuinely think. Right? He's not of the belief that, like, Infofy is profitable. Right? This is his thing. Right? And he's like, I'll make you a bet that in six months from now, like, this is... This whole thing is gone. And I need to understand kinda where you guys stand on this. He sends me a Dune dashboard. Right? I know what I want, and I'm gonna reply. And it's obviously... It's all in good fun. I love Ninja. He sends me a Dune dashboard. It says, and he makes the case of 86,000,000 distributed tokens across 200,000 Yappers, which excludes the Kaito airdrop. And if you average that out equally, it's about $24 a month since Kaito has been live for about eighteen months. 86,000,000 across 200,000 users over eighteen months is $24 a month. Tell me what's wrong with this formula, Coma. [1:24:06] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Oh, no. Sorry. Can I just say? I mean, what are you doing here anyways? Right? Like, you're you're already doing this for free, more or less. Right? Like, in terms of posting, why not just get a stimmy on top? Like, I I don't really understand a lot. I guess you could use your time better, like, suited for elsewhere. Sure. But, like, generally, if every time I build a site app, it makes me zero money, and that pretty much is the same, like, ROI one way or the other. But, yeah, please. I I don't... Yeah. I just was... I just... That was my quick response. But... [1:24:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You're good. You're good. Go ahead, Brad. [1:24:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. I'll tell you why it's skewed, bro. It's because, ultimately, like we always talk about, active users, active wallets, active Yappers, active Twitter profiles is a bullshit metric because I could spin up 20,000 right now and deploy them onto any chain. And all of a sudden, that chain got 20,000 new wallets this... You know, today. You know, it's not a good metric to have at all. Let's go. [1:25:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well...... Sending me nudes. [1:25:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what I'm gonna say. I think the algorithm needs some fine tuning, and the devs need to do something. [1:25:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Hopefully... Speaking of which, hopefully, I'll do something when I get into this new group for premium features. I'll make sure to let them know that about that, Matt Matt. [1:25:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I need to... I I got a question for you guys. When I finally do get monetized and I'm able to get subscriptions, how much would you guys pay, to come listen to me talk? [1:25:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: Dollar. A dollar [1:25:40] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: or 2. [1:25:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: A dollar? Just kidding. Negative a dollar. $2. [1:25:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: 99.99. [1:25:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: What kind of bullshit is this? Cool. That way, I'm quiet. [1:25:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Mean... 99999.... For free. So... What the hell? This is crazy. [1:26:00] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Nana's sweating bullets right now. I can... You already... I could feel it through the screen. [1:26:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: Does it does it come with, like, a course or... Of some kind? No. It's like really engaging newsletter? [1:26:10] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: That's the... It's token gated. For... If I made [1:26:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: a... If I made ATC subscriber only... Bro, I wanna know. Yeah. I'm gonna put a poll up. If I made ATC subscriber only, how much would people pay to actually come to subscriber only [1:26:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: in CCP space unless you [1:26:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: guys are real friends are. [1:26:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: I know someone that made this move, and it was counterproductive because the space had... There was, like, five people in it. And this person has a lot of followers. There's... [1:26:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: That it was them in in the in the alts that they that they got up to pay for the subscriptions. [1:26:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: You want me to...... [1:26:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: There in a quiet room. [1:26:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: You want me to pay to have... Yeah. Maybe with the live...... Watch you sit on the toilet? What do you mean? Of course. Yes. [1:26:56] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, why... Oh, I was gonna say livestream. Not quite that direction, but, like, ultimately, like, might be able to subscribe --... Way more money. Like, for [1:27:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: a livestream.... Way more money. Are you kidding me? I'm gonna put this beautiful face on a livestream for you guys to see, are you kidding me? I think I'm gonna... She's try. The best is, like... You know, I I get it. They're to each their own. I'm not charging anybody a dollar or $2 when I get subscription, so you all understand. Okay? I've cemented this place out here, and y'all are gonna pay the money that it takes and that it costs. Let me stop. [1:27:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Feel like you're aiming kinda high. Dave, how much do you wanna charge? [1:27:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't even give a price. What do mean aiming kinda? Y'all told me $2. It's y'all gonna be higher than that. [1:27:34] Bread @_ToastMalone: Can I can I pay you in, like, yacht points or something? Or, like, you know, zits or something?... Some bulls... [1:27:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Pay me quick. I'll take quotes. I'll be... Can I pay you in twenty six years? [1:27:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Well, just [1:27:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: just a moment. Just a moment. [1:27:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: On a [1:27:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: serious note, like, actual serious note, look, the the content landscape is shifting towards a a supplementing of content providers' media. It is... We have a massive issue in YouTube, for instance. It's been developing for many years, which is why you saw the big shift from, you know, these channels that have even millions of subscribers. I have I have a few friends that have that have management companies that they've signed deals with that would get them sponsorships. But even then, that still wasn't enough, so they still supplement with Patreons. Right? And many have been very tentative to move into anything crypto related, which, by the way, you don't have to have a crypto related, like, a coin that is volatile. You can have a stable pegged, you know, group that is... You know, because one of the big things is a lot of these platforms that they use already, you know, like the patrons of the world take a big cut, right, from their community, and they build very large communities. This was actually something very popular for, for charting analysts and and traders. Same deal. Like, many have paid groups. Many have, like, premium kind of, like, discussions and stuff even to this day. Like, I I... I've been fortunate enough to meet many, very, very well-to-do established personalities in the trading field who are very public online, and they have very robust groups. But they still... Even the ones in in crypto still utilize very, you know, not very attractive, I should say, platforms in order to monetize that particular content. And and just so people understand, like, there's people... Like, there's a different philosophy for people like me who who give out that information for free versus somebody who does it paid. And often, and it's like, well, they clearly aren't making any money trading because they have to have a paid group. No. Honestly, some of these people make millions of dollars for the people who are trading in those groups. But, unfortunately, there's a lot of scam artists that that utilize it too. Because who would have thought that scammers would wanna come in and grift people, right, in any kind of, any kind of media or any kind of, subscription services. But fact of the matter is is that information's worth money. And just because somebody has a lot of money doesn't mean that their work should be free. And the... You're gonna see that this is gonna shift, especially post, Kobe, you know, era for that buyout and and that deal that was done for Kobe's, company and for his services. This is gonna shake things up on the web three side because it's exposing even people on the web two side of things to the kind of money that you can make and and still keep, right, through either direct investment or utilizing crypto platforms for that kind of stuff. Subscription models have been a very popular thing for a long time, and they ain't gonna go away. And if you give out really good information and you are educating people, that is worth money and is worth monetizing. So that's not something that I I think people should be like, oh, you know, you know, poo pooing and that person's grifting or... It's bullshit. If they're worth the money, you're the one that's making that determination with your subscription to them through whatever it might be, whether it be x or Patreon or whatever. That is... That has value to the people who are subscribing because that person is providing them some value. And if they aren't, you're gonna hear about it because they're gonna be like, this is bullshit. Dude, scan me or whatever. Right? Like, they don't even give the alpha. Like, you know, we get in there, they don't even run the the talks or the shows that they say they're gonna run-in these, you know, private groups for us. And you see a lot of that too. But somebody like Dave, I would trust to run a a really solid subscription program. And I am being serious, by the way. I I love to joke around with you, Dave. But there's people like Cool, Dave, Nat Nat, and many others even here on this stage and in the audience that I've gotten to know over the years in crypto that provide valuable information for free and have been doing it for years. But then there's people who would wanna pay to cut the line because they didn't get to those shows. Give me the recap. Show me how to do it. Therefore, I can go and do it. They would happily pay for that because they just don't have the time to come in to listen to all the ATC shows or listen to the recordings. Right? And Dave's out here making recaps of the damn shows with the whole websites and shit that is gonna recap it. And they'd still pay just to talk directly to Dave and have him literally babysit them and hold their hand. So there is a real market for that stuff. Landing. You you shouldn't shit on people that that do move in that direction unless they deserve it. [1:32:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: You're worth every penny. You're worth every penny. [1:33:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm gonna give you that [1:33:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: dollar, bro. [1:33:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: I can't wait. [1:33:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Listen. While y'all are messing around, okay, and everyone's telling me, no. No. No. You know who's there for me? My boy, Brett. You know what Brett said when I said x four zero two? He said, bro, let's build it. And I was like, you know what? That's my boy. That's a that's a homie right there. I... He was like, yep. I'm a monetize ATC data. And you think I'm a tell y'all? Nope. $2. Get out of here. [1:33:23] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, I'm telling you, man, like, at this point, like, three or four different things I've got spinning up right now for... Like, just the more $40.02, the better. At this point, like... Come out. If you build something once you build it, that's nice. [1:33:34] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Sorry. Brad, Brad, we should just build, like, Udemy of web three. [1:33:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't don't do this. Don't do this now. Brad, don't listen. See what you're doing? [1:33:41] Bread @_ToastMalone: Four zero two. Let's fucking go. [1:33:42] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: User. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. Me and [1:33:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brett, you sell me out. I'll kill you, motherfucker. But go ahead, comma, and then we'll go do it. [1:33:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. I'm definitely gonna find it. [1:33:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. $2. That's that's worth it. As a creator [1:33:55] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm now accepting offers via 402. [1:33:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Right. Get in. [1:34:01] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: No. No. I was gonna say, I think the... As as a creator myself that has done, like, one on one, like, professional help with, like, career development stuff before doing this, like, web three stuff, I think what's important is the infra and, like, how you, like, you know, share your free information and things like that. Like, I think one thing that I maybe, like, kinda capitalized on was, like, the I know it may sound funny, but like the professionalism of being able to, like, actually get from, like, no software development skills to software development skills and not doing it in a way where it's like, oh, yeah. Just be a good coder, bro. Like, and just do lead code and you'll you'll get a job kinda thing. So, I mean, if you're really serious about this, know. Right? But if you're really serious about this, I think there probably just needs to be some tweaks here and there. And then I don't know about spaces. Like, I I haven't really seen any creator, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that does, like, charge spaces. And it's, like, actually very, very profitable. I I know that there's, like, recorded spaces or, like, webinars or something like that that could usually help, but people do that usually through, like, some gated, like, YouTube or I don't know. Like, I know Landy mentioned Patreon. So I don't know [1:35:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: if spaces. [1:35:19] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if spaces is, like, the way, but maybe maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you could be the pioneer for that. [1:35:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm gonna pioneer the hell out of it, Koma. And I think... And I appreciate the honesty. But I will I will pioneer this entire frontier watch. You're gonna see because audio, in my opinion, this is it, bro. Like, I've read so many articles where Balaji is like, community leaders are going to be the powerhouses. Like, when I... When you see them, like, the... Like, I read this whole article about how Google and Facebook and and we're all fighting over who's the next dev, like, paying $100,000,000 packages OpenAI. The community leads are gonna be the leaders. Right? Because in a world of AI, you're going to need people that have the that have the ear of other real people. And those that can galvanize communities are the ones that are gonna command some of the biggest dollars. And the information we give in here is valuable today, now. Right? And the agents are now gonna be able to query all of this stuff, which I was talking to the age... The the lurky team about today, and, like, that's gonna be enabled. [1:36:14] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: But, yeah, [1:36:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Geek Planet, go for it, and then we'll go bread and Landy will close this out. I gotta eat dinner. [1:36:19] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: Hey. Hey. What's up? I just feel like the comment just had a great point on, you know, maybe... I'm just saying maybe not a very common way to, you know, charge people to get onto space like this. But, however, what you could do is you could charge people to get a, you know, normalized and formalized structured information or a summary of your space. Basically, for those who don't want to spend the time staying in in a space, you know, maybe in a PDF form, you know, whatever, And you could put it up somewhere either on this platform or even, you know, on some of the other platforms, YouTube or Instagram or even a Redno, which has a bunch of, you know, half of the Asian community and the the non Asian ones. So just just something you can keep that in mind. And and and I also... [1:37:20] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: That's a genius idea. [1:37:21] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: And I also... I do have a joke for you, kinda joke, which is, believe it or not, you know, just charging people one or two or a couple... Even a couple dollars to get into the space will not make too much sense versus, like, say, you could literally just doing live streaming, you know, showing crypto, like, you know, ATC related products, you know, the physical products in one of those video streaming platforms, that will make you way more money than than just, you know, charging people to listen into this type of space, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah. [1:38:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dave, you have such an amazing talent. Like, your leadership, your enthusiasm, your marketing ideas. And I think once you're able to figure it figure it out, I'm sure you'll have an amazing group of people that were... That are able to pay whatever price you put to gain that knowledge that you have. Like, for example, there is one of one of my good friends. He's gotten really, really good at Fibonacci's, and people on x, they were coming to him and requesting charts. So because he was that good at it, he's like, you know what? No more free charts. He opened a Patreon, and he charges, like, $30 per chart. And believe it or not, you know how lazy people are? They don't wanna chart themselves, so they pay him $30 per chart so he can chart it for him. [1:38:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love that. [1:38:47] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: AI idea. AI gen... Create me charts and then charge it through $40.02. Boom. Done. [1:38:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: We've been having the conversation already. Brett, talk to you, boy. Go ahead, Brett. [1:38:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: Hey, Elon, if you're listening. It's me, Brad, again, and the ATC crew over here. Listen. It would have to be implemented at kind of, like, the platform level. Right? But what you could do is utilizing, you know, x four zero two, you could actually, you know, charge, like, you know, 5 to maybe even 10¢ per entrance to a space, and there's a lot of us that just bounce around spaces. And, ultimately, the only way to get back in would be to refill our account with another dollar or whatever. And, like, you know, there's a lot of us that would probably just do that. And then you could give it to the creators for all those spaces, that 5¢. You know what? Keep a cent. You can give them 4¢. You know? Hit me up if you wanna build it. I'm here. [1:39:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It's with me. It's... [1:39:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm your biggest fan. It's Stan. Yeah. I... [1:39:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: For a second, it was like he's sitting down. He's at the edge of his bed late at night praying. Elon, if you're listening, like, tears running down. [1:39:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's exactly how I pictured it. That's exactly. [1:39:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was wild. That's wild work. I love it. [1:40:02] Bread @_ToastMalone: I was just reading in my diary, guys. I'm sorry. [1:40:06] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: Do you write diaries nowadays? Yeah. [1:40:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Yeah. You can [1:40:11] Bread @_ToastMalone: get access. It's a 402 endpoint. [1:40:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You can get access. [1:40:16] 👽GeekPlanet.Tesla.eth🌍🇺🇸🇨🇦🇭🇰🇬🇧🇫🇷e/acc @GeekPlanetDAO: No interest. [1:40:18] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Coral truth to my life. [1:40:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I I actually... So I have a lot of experience with selling content online for many, many years. I was one of the first people to actually utilize Udemy, Teachable, and many of these other platforms because I was building a hybrid on-site, off-site school before it was cool back in, like, pre 2011 time frame when there wasn't really a lot of stuff that was being done in that. It was just kinda spinning up with online learning content. Right? And and I was helping to build out the school's internal systems, and we partnered with Udemy, Teachable, and a few others. Now some came a little bit later. The timeline's a little mixed up on who launched first, but that was a really big space for content creators to go and sell courses, essentially. Right? And one of the problems that immediately cropped up with that is when you sell pre re... Prerecorded content, like, I I did a lot of FINRA content. So FINRA exams, if you wanted to, like Oh. You know, you're boot camping for your FINRA exam and you wanted to make sure you passed it, you could come there and you could go to my private, you know, profile outside of the school's profile and you could buy my courses. But what what in... What inevitably happens, people screen record it and they put it out there for free and and different, you know, Slacks at the time and so on and so forth. So the way in which you you battle against that is you have many different offerings for content that you offer your subscribers or your audience. And instead of doing one package, you know, one stop shop package deals for, like, 1,500 or $2,500 and they get this course, you know, you do ongoing support. Right? So that you have reoccurring revenue for that particular business model, and that is, you know, podcasts, q and a sessions, and lives. Right? Especially now, it's easier than ever. And it's easier than ever to monetize this stuff. And this is something I think is very important for just about anybody here because everybody is trying to build out a profile online and a group of people that follows them and that they follow that they find value in what they're putting out there. And I I I just really wanna encourage people not to poo poo that kind of stuff because x is gonna move in that direction. They're already moving in that direction in the way that they've modified subscriptions and the way that you can gate things even for the livestreams. But I don't know how many people hear livestream on x, but on the back end, you can gate that stuff. Subscribers only. And, like, you can... All they need is the payment rail side of things, and they can they can literally undercut a lot of these other platforms that, in my in my personal opinion, rip a lot of content creators off. So I think, maybe someday we should have this as a larger topic because we're starting to see all of it, like I said earlier, creep into the web three world from the web two world because they need us to educate them. Right? And we're all, in many cases, doing that for free. And and that's... It's worth money. And you don't... You can only give so much away for free. You give them a taste, you get them hooked on your drugs, and then you get them in the door, and you make them addicts. Alright? That's what I'm trying to say. Just become the content drug dealers. They Make money. [1:44:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dave, so I wanted to point something out to you. LJ actually had a brilliant idea. He put it out in the comment. He said, what about a tipping system for ATC and the speakers where listeners can actually tip the speakers or tip the holes and we can do it all via Tater Trader. [1:44:13] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Oh my god. That's the genius And then whoever gets the biggest tip gets all the tips. [1:44:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. Did [1:44:25] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: no one get the tip? Okay. Never mind. [1:44:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I got the tip. [1:44:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm not giving any tips, bro. None. [1:44:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. Here we go. Yeah. Babe, go ahead. [1:44:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: When that starts new people, for me, that's when you know shit's going off the rails. COBRA, go for it, and then we gotta close out. I gotta go. [1:44:47] Voice K: What's up, everybody? Happy to be here. Hello, Dave. Cool crypto, Nat Nat Nat. Everybody, comma, I see everybody. Thanks for having me. It's nice to be here. And I just wanted to ask you guys one quick question. I wanted to hear your take about Batter dot fund Infofyre platform. I've been doing some research, and I think it could be, like, the next big one after Wallchain. And I think it could be it could become even bigger because they are actually, like, tracking the on chain activities and on chain status of the ballot as well. And if you know the espresso project, which is one one of the biggest one, like, on Ethereum is coming to... Like, they're launching their Infofy campaign on Banter in the next few days. And I've been just, you know, like, playing around with the platform, and I just thought it could have, like, a [1:45:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: good [1:45:43] Voice K: potential. Like, what is your take on that? [1:45:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I might kill you, Cobra, for asking a question like that at 07:15 at night, if I'm being honest. And I would love for somebody to answer you, but, unfortunately, my shawarma is waiting for me, and it is it is not good. Cold. I gotta be honest. [1:46:04] Voice K: Alright. Alright. [1:46:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Good. I have to head out soon, guys. [1:46:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm so sorry. [1:46:06] Voice K: No problem. No problem. Just gonna let stay tomorrow? [1:46:10] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Yeah. Let's table it for tomorrow. I think it's a good question. 100%. [1:46:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. You were One quick scribe, you guys have would stick around. [1:46:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. If you pay... If you were paying, I might have them look. I might eat cold shawarma. You know what I'm saying? Like, cold shawarma sounds fantastic. When somebody's paying 15. Yeah. [1:46:27] Voice K: I'll be your first subscriber, man. I love I love [1:46:29] Voice I: my fuzz. [1:46:30] Voice K: I love everything you guys are talking about. Every time I'm here, I'm learning so much from this space and all the alphas, man. And we're able to share different, you know, thoughts with each other. I might know something that you guys don't know. And, like, other way around, I'm learning a lot as well. So thanks a lot, and have a good dinner, man. I see you in the next space. I really appreciate it. [1:46:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Thank you. Fucking. [1:46:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? Yo. Chill out. Chill out. Goddamn it. But he has to... What... He can't hear you. And he goes... And he drops down, and he leaves. You see what he does? Alright, guys. No. I'm out for real. I gotta go eat, but this was this was amazing. Don't forget tomorrow's our last episode of the week On Thursday's cool, Matt. Thank you. Landy, amazing stuff. Landy, if you start charging me, like, residuals for giving me alpha that you drop in here, and that goes for any single speaker, I'll kill all of you. You hear the Moroccanist in [1:47:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: the background? That's what happened Wait. [1:47:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Are we getting paid for every bubble we put up? [1:47:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dude, that [1:47:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: one gets worse. Separate case. You're all I've been getting [1:47:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: debuts forever. No one need [1:47:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: to Yeah. [1:47:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Loonies and tunes are coming, [1:47:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: ladies and gents. [1:47:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Next up [1:47:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: All things bubbles. Exactly. Guys, have a good night, Coma. Thank you, Brad, Savara, Gamer. Really appreciate you. And Roger, thank you for coming through. Yo. Geek Planet, great to see you, man. Don't you dare raise that hand, Geek Planet. I'm out. Okay? Etiquette. Etiquette. Etiquette. Peace.
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