All Things Crypto - Everything Wallchain NFT Mint

# All Things Crypto - Everything Wallchain NFT Mint | 2025-11-05 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1jMKgRZgQVAxL | status: approved
# Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed.

[0:00:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, thanks, crypto. Moni, get up here. I gotta tell you something. Hurry up before anybody gets in here. It's a secret. SongJam requested. Try songjam.ai. Welcome, everyone. Nifty boy, meta beast,.
[0:00:28] Samara @thee_samara: Oh,
[0:00:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: okay. That would be lovely. Monica, now there's more people in here. I can't tell you. I'm gonna tell you in the DMs.
[0:00:36] Moni @monitalan: I thought you were gonna start gonna start singing.
[0:00:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh,
[0:00:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: thanks, Crypto. Does anybody wanna hear me sing, Monie? That is crazy work. But, yeah, we're just... All things Crypto. Let's go.
[0:00:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: But that our markets move fast, we're the ones in power. Mike left, Charles Lit, Dave set the pace. Every take a gym, every call a check. We don't follow trends. We... Why create momentum from credit, fight, or chain. We've been a system. They talk TV. We talk tokens and truth. We don't miss the web. We are built up booth. We don't chase coins. We chase conviction. Every drug decoded, every market missing. From the charts to the streets is pure
[0:01:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Weights and portfolios too. Flex on charge gains like deja vu. Discipline drive, heat the balance of both. Body and bags, man's built on growth. Nat, Nat. The trap by Wonder Woman. Flipping fundamentals. True be humming.
[0:03:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: Speak to alpha they don't want you to hear. So grab your bags when your vision clear. This is all things crypto.
[0:04:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is good, everybody? Welcome to ATC, all things crypto. It is Wednesday hump day, and it has been a marathon of a day, boy. Nat Nat and I just got off of space. Nat Nat was cohosting in the Hedera ecosystem for Rapdex. Kyle, shout out to you and, obviously, for everybody that came through to that one. Nat, that was pretty damn dope. I gotta be honest. That was a really, really cool space. Great stuff.
[0:04:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Thank you. Thank you. It was great having you there, and you know what WrapDex is doing and what Kyle is is building. Man, you guys wanna keep your eyes peeled. You got... Want to follow the account because it's a game changer for sure.
[0:04:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. And the markets are bouncing back. My positions are looking nicer. They told me don't sell your Bitcoin. They told me buy more Bitcoin. So I said, fine. I bought some Bitcoin yesterday. I told you guys. I bought some Bitcoin at a 101 k ish right around there. We're looking good right now. Landy, what's up?
[0:05:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hi. Don't ignore it's still a downtrend, but was a was a good nice bounce trade at a very key area. I don't hate that decision at all. I am shlong in the markets. And if you're not familiar... Wait. What?
[0:05:18] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hold on one second. He said
[0:05:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: he said Wow. Say it again, Landy. Say it again. Oh my gosh.
[0:05:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: I am big time shlong in the markets, and that means...
[0:05:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's a $500 word.
[0:05:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: That should be.
[0:05:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: It easily should be.
[0:05:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I mean,
[0:05:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: that means... That's a great word, Lainie.
[0:05:38] Kkoma @itskkoma: Big big
[0:05:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: fan of what you're doing here, buddy.
[0:05:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: It is. It's called bracket trading when when you you just throw your schlong down. That's where you have a short and then you take a long. So you're schlong. And so This
[0:05:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: is crazy work. So... And
[0:05:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: and Guys
[0:05:54] xFactor @xFactorPOL: guys, I don't know what's so funny, man. This is a technical analysis.
[0:05:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm sure you're enjoying this, X Factor. This is right up your alley for sure. But what he's trying to say in, like, regular terms, he's hedged.
[0:06:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: Uh-huh. Yeah. Cover. But now you don't cover Hedera.
[0:06:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: You don't cover the middle way.
[0:06:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Hedera. Hedera at the end of the day. Listen. If it works, it works. You know what I mean? Goddamn. Landy, what the hell?
[0:06:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. To that point, I think we're gonna revisit that 98 k. And if we break that, watch out below.
[0:06:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Stop being the bitch. Let us Oh
[0:06:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: my god. Did. You did. It rejected. It rejected.
[0:06:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: So those are
[0:06:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: the men's out
[0:06:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: of women.
[0:06:37] xFactor @xFactorPOL: 90... As long as we don't go below 97 k,
[0:06:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: everything's fine. I haven't I haven't on No.
[0:06:42] xFactor @xFactorPOL: But we're not go seven k. Sell everything.
[0:06:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: X factor. I've been very good authority. The... It's not Joe over yet. Bitcoin, although, you know, I was told it would not dip under a $100,000. It did, but it's not over because it bounced and it had a really nice rally off of that area. And just so you know, the actual hedge is the long because I am macro short at the moment, but I am hunting for an equalization of that position on the long side. And that's when we... Look. There's plenty of opportunity. Dave, I want you to understand this. I want everybody else to understand this. There's plenty of opportunity when we see a market structure change. Right? So you can let price go up and watch it. You don't have to chase it. It's all about when it comes back down and where it puts in the next low. If it's a higher load, there's your opportunity. Right? If it's a trend break, there's your opportunity. Right now, we're not there yet, but this was a key area to go schlong and to actually hedge the position on the short side. This is a professional term. It's professional. Look.
[0:07:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: We use
[0:07:51] Moni @monitalan: this on
[0:07:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wall Street all the time. In the banking industry, they're like, look. We're delta neutral because we're schlong. And and, you know, I mean, that's how they say it in... On Wall Street.
[0:08:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is this is factual. I bet you... Yeah. Of... Yeah. Coming from the guys creating lists. I'm not gonna go there. I am not even gonna go there. I bet you know this was
[0:08:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It was a it was a typo.
[0:08:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It was a typo.
[0:08:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Uh-huh. I'm sure I saw that was... That's something
[0:08:16] Moni @monitalan: with that little typo. Didn't they say, please, like, share it?
[0:08:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: That was a very specific typo.
[0:08:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. You're lucky you're lucky you're lucky I held
[0:08:27] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I held back because I was gonna I was gonna add women to that list too. That would have gone crazy,
[0:08:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: but totally that type of diabolical.
[0:08:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. To the head.
[0:08:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: At the same time.
[0:08:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Crazy ass. Cool. Thank god you're here. Bring some order to this court, bro. Threat threaten to kill somebody or strangle somebody out here, bro. Like, what's good, my brother? You good? Yeah. Good. Good. Good. Sorry.
[0:08:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: Sorry. I got lost again with navigation. You know? Nobody goes. No. No. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Big hopes to everyone, that we... We're gonna get that war chain NFC. Again, I'm excited. I'm sure the majority of people in this space should have it, I'm assuming, because a lot of us got the early landing. You you got the stage one. Right? The debut two. Right?
[0:09:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes, sir.
[0:09:19] Moni @monitalan: Unless you didn't add your wallet.
[0:09:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, we were only yelling at you for three days prior to the fifteenth saying, hey. Go add your wallet about 17 times throughout the show. So if you did not hear us, I'm sorry. I'm also gonna take my own advice because I'm an idiot. And I... Even though I did, obviously, on my own account, I had
[0:09:41] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: a gold pass. I had
[0:09:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: a gold badge in Junie's account. I never added the wallet on Junie's. So, Yuri, I know you're in the grease trap, bro. I'm getting in your DMs. I'm a need that. I'm a need you to add me there. I know this... It's a long shot for me to be able to mint.
[0:09:57] Kkoma @itskkoma: Oh my god.
[0:09:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: But it is what it is. We're gonna talk all of that stuff, obviously, today. Moni, I saw you had an amazing space earlier today that... So much so that that the tater chat was actually, like, listening in, and they said, this would have been the perfect place for Monica to plug tater. And I'm like, what? I was waiting for you to say something. I went back and I listened, and I'm like, wait a minute. What... Oh, that wasn't perfect. Moni.
[0:10:25] Moni @monitalan: I know. I don't understand it well enough to talk about it, but I promise you, I will be the number one referral ambassador. We
[0:10:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: actually just did release. He built built in a refer... We told Ninja we need a referral system. But, Monica, I also did say that it's worth a... Like, the tater team worth a conversation sitting down and talking to you. So we gotta definitely chat in the background. But but, yeah, how how did that space go? I mean, just listening to it, they did not seem too friendly to the wall chain NFT. It was... From what I heard, it was not very good on that space. And that was... So those are some heavy hitters.
[0:11:00] Moni @monitalan: But he's... Yeah. I think the main thing is that no one understands the utility. You You also have to keep in mind that walls, I guess, he hadn't been that active. So he's not on the first list. He's, like, on the second. But, by the way, I'm seeing this privately too. Right? Nobody expects us to be like like I don't want because remember, Kaido gave free ones to a 150 people. If there... There's no free ones, you have to pay. Right? The price is not that inexpensive, and the utility really hasn't been outlined. I think they need to really talk about what are the benefits of withholding it. Yeah. I wanna hear what Cole says because he's closer to the wall chain community. I also think... And, again, Paul, I really wanna hear what you think here. But the other part of it is, remember, Wallchain has a lot of smaller creators, which is fantastic, but I don't know if the smaller creators are gonna wanna buy an NFT at that price. So that's my bigger question. I mean, that... It's not that many. It's not as many as billions, but I think you may get some people to to be a
[0:12:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: little hesitant. But, Cole, what do you think?
[0:12:08] Moni @monitalan: You're a wall chainer. You're a quacker.
[0:12:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. So you you do have a point. It's... It is interesting. I have received a a couple of DMs asking me if I could buy the NFT for them because they did qualify for stage two or stage three, but they don't have the liquidity of 2.5. So it is quite a lot for some people. So I do agree with you. You know, it it... It's interesting in a way. I I like the supply, only 1,000, I think, 900. I like... The price is not is not high. It's not too low either. You know? And you know, just like you said, a lot of people don't have 2.5 sold to spend. You know, this is a a a crypto market international. The US dollar, it's it's good for us because we live here. But if you live in different countries, man, where $1 is, like, 1,500 naira or 15,000 of your currency, then it might be difficult to you... For you to buy NFT. So there are a good number of people that do... Did qualify to Mint, but they do have a liquidity for this. But at the same time, I think it it might not do as... It it might not be as big as Kaito NFT, but if you're buying it for $3,400, you should at least get a 10 extra money at least. Right? But I'm not... To be honest with you, it is what it is. I mean, you know, you pay $2.02 $2,300 for this thing. I mean, you're basically getting access to, you know, some perks. Even though the perks don't really seem to be super bullish, I guess, maybe there might be more more details in future, but you can't you can't you can't not own an an NFT from the most hyped info five platform of crypto right now. So you got the money, get in, and I'm gonna... I I I have this stage one. I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna try to make it public too. We'll see. But I... Like I said, it's the more... It's the most high... Hyped protocol right now, man, and you have to jump in it. But if you don't have the money to do it, then I don't blame you.
[0:14:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm excited. Yo. I'm excited for this, and I and I came in super late, like, towards the tail end of everything, and I qualified for, like, stage four in public. And I'm okay with that. Right? As long as I I... I'm I'm able to to buy, I do I do believe that they're gonna they're gonna give us a nice return on our investment based on exactly what Cool said, based on the hype that Wallchain has, and they're a leader in in in the Infify the Infify world. So I I wouldn't sleep on that. But, Monica, I see you have a hand up. Dave, would you mind if we just... We're gonna wanna Yeah.
[0:14:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Of course. Go ahead. Of course, Monica.
[0:14:44] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Sorry. Just real quick. The other thing, I... It's interesting because I saw several people asking about... If, you know, pitching, right, coming in or helping them cover part of the cost of the NFT, which I thought was super interesting, and then to divide up the the... Whatever they make if they sell it. But, look, I I was thinking about aligners. I think... Imagine if I line... Aligners came in right now and said, okay. The 26 aligners have to have the NFT. Right? That's a utility you can bring into where you actually create these type of incentives for the projects. And so I'm hoping that's how the blockchain team is thinking because then it makes it a very valuable NFT.
[0:15:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. And, Moni, would would just... And, Roger, I'm coming to you in one second. Like, I think... Cool. Like, to what you said, I get it. But as a smaller creator, if you were saving up for something, the utility here is increased mind share. Legit... Literally, the article spells it out for you where it tells you you are gonna have the ability to earn higher mind share on these leaderboards. Why would you not want to do that? So I understand $400. I do not take that for for granted. Trust me. I get it. I love the pooling idea, Monica. Then if it runs, maybe people sell some proceeds, you buy back cheaper. That's... That obviously... A little bit slippery slope depends. But, like, as a small creator, like, if you are looking and you believe in this whole ecosystem and you believe in this InfoFi thing and you see more campaigns coming and you don't believe that we're in a bubble, this is the this is the best thing for... Like, the utility for now, for me at least, is there. You get access to that gated telegram group. Like, that's access now. Like... And unless you're lazy, that's a totally different story. But if you're active and you genuinely want to succeed here, I would kill for an opportunity like this if I was a small creator. That's all I'm saying. But, yeah, Roger, I would love to hear, like, what you have to say and kinda maybe what Monica was saying as well.
[0:16:49] Voice I: Hello, everyone. I I raised my hand, Dave, just to tell you to speak with the other CMO of aligners about your second wallet. He might be able to make it legible even if you showed up.
[0:17:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I need that CMO... The other other CMO to be able to give me some stuff. I'd like that. Let's go.
[0:17:14] Voice I: Yeah. Regarding the NFT utility and what Monica proposed,
[0:17:21] Voice I: I I believe it might work also as a filter for the project to filter out who is the most qualified and who is well connected to have better connection to the inner circle of whole chain and to have better tools to make the early selection, let's say, in case they wanted to create a gated leaderboard.
[0:17:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Yeah. Lendi, we'd love your take. And then, Monica, I'll come back to you, and then I wanna I wanna... And say what's up to Samara afterwards. But, yeah, Lendi, go for it. We just had Yuri in here. I'm gonna... I sent him a message. I'm like, Yuri, you should probably come in here, but then he ran off.
[0:18:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. I I look for... As you know, Dave, I did a lot of work in the Bitcoin ordinal space. So NFT launches there didn't have anything outside of building out a treasury. Right? So all the funds from those ordinals launches went into treasuries, and then those treasuries would usually result in, other incentives for the community and projects that spin up. And we saw a lot of good come out of that. And then later, this was used, in in Roon's launches, but there was no liquidity pools. Right? So when I look at something like this and I go, okay. There's, you know, two and a half SOL, 1,099 NFTs. And my immediate thought is, okay. At current value for Solana, that's about 810,000... Just shy of $810,000 in liquidity for something. Right? Whether that be projects, you know, the the project itself, right, for incentives, for a possible TGE. You know, all of these things start to swirl in my mind because that can be a good way to fund up a liquidity pool for a token launch and then offer something later that maybe isn't in the initial round of, like, here's the incentives for that. But that's a big bet. Right? Because we only have the incentives for holding it that we know about right now. But, you know, these things, you know, you kinda a to b to c where I'm going with it. And this is where, this is where NFTs in this sense as a reward mechanism makes sense. Right? And we've seen plenty of ways in which, Infophy is is used to this, right, with the Kaido NFTs and stuff like that. So this is... You can do a lot with an NFT. Right? And you don't necessarily... It can it can grow and evolve over time in terms of incentive structure, and that's what NFTs weren't doing before. They were literally just speculation on the art asset, the collection, and the artist, and all these other things. And prior, the NFT markets collapsed because there was no real big incentives, and the projects that tried it didn't have the reach and mind share, didn't have these large platforms that were built out like we have in InfoFi. The only thing that I will say is I'm gonna mint. And to Nat's point the other day, I sure hope that Nat and I aren't the top signal getting into InfoFive because that would be absolutely horrible.
[0:20:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't say that. Don't put that out in the universe, bro. That's the last thing I need. You understand? Do not put you guys being at the... Because the last thing I need to hear, okay, you want me... With the top signal of the Infofy. No. Let's get back to the Bitcoin spaces. I don't wanna hear that. Okay? Infofy is gonna be here till I die. No. But you guys can't be the top signal.
[0:21:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is gonna turn into ATB, all things Bitcoin. All
[0:21:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: things Bitcoin.
[0:21:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you imagine? Can you... Oh my god. Andy, I will feel bad for us. Mhmm. Mhmm.
[0:21:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Wait till I tell you what NetNat did earlier, bro. Wait. Just wait until I tell you. It was crazy. My god. You got guy No. I'm gonna rush you out. No.
[0:21:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. Okay. Fine.
[0:21:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Samara, give me your take on the NFT drop. I know, obviously, you are... You probably have a lot to say on this, but are you... I know you didn't start quacking till later. What's the deal? Like, what... What's happening? Talk to me. How are you feeling?
[0:21:40] Samara @thee_samara: Hey. James Young guy. James Day. Cool. Nat Nat, Landy, Monica, Coma, Brett, x factor, meta piece. Shout out to you guys. Personally, I think I'll vent because I got into I got into the stage three. So... But my my thing is they shouldn't have mentioned anything concerning utility. I think that was, like, where the whole, like, thing just blew up because they should just put it like NFT Mints and not add utility. Because the utility, the audit added wasn't really all that. And they didn't say anything about Mindshare. All they said was, like, support, supports in brackets, like, some sort of customer support, some... Something like that for the unified platforms, in bracket mind sharing, quacks, and all that stuff. And as for the TG, a lot of people are in... Already in the TG, and we all know it's not busting like that. So they can't actually tie that to the utility because it's not really going crazy in there. But, yeah, personally, if I'm fast enough to mint, I'll mint, just to see what happens with it. And, yeah, the the problem is people are starting to, like, do some sort of moon math and try to compare it to Kaito. And, like, bro, like, that's the problem. Like, that's the problem. Like, watching should just be their own... It's it's own thing. Like, if you wanna mean to mean to understand, like, yo, it's... The market was, you know, kind of red when the announcement came up and everything. But there are some concerns. Yes. But my problem is they shouldn't have mentioned utility. Anything utilities shouldn't have mentioned. Could have been like a mint, and if there was ever going to be a space, you could have been after the mint. You know? But now everyone's just speculating and just going crazy, doing x's, thinking it's gonna go 30 x after the mints. But I just hope in... You know, after everyone gets the, like, mints the stuff out, it just has some sorts of utility. I just wanna dust everyone on the leaderboard and just climb. Even if the utility is, like, get... Getting me to, a 100 x score, I'm fine. You feel me? But then I don't wanna mince for 2.5 soul, and I'm still struggling in the trenches with everyone. Like, that that... That's gonna be a problem. Like, that's gonna be a problem. But I'm just...
[0:23:46] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I just
[0:23:46] Samara @thee_samara: hope I'm fast enough to mint, and I think another problem that everyone's having is just like, you know, everyone's having this issue of everyone having the same mint price, you know, both stage one, stage two, stage three stage from public. They all have the same mint price, which I'm sure it's concerning. Yes. But at the end of the day, it's just, you know, if you have the funds, do it. If you don't, it's fine. It's just another thing on web web three for real.
[0:24:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. If y'all don't think this is gonna cook, this thing's gonna sell out in the first two stages. Okay? Bro, I
[0:24:15] Samara @thee_samara: just want... I I... All I need is, like, a 20. I need a 20.
[0:24:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: But there's only there's only 1,900. That's it. That... That's it. That ever. So I'm like... So... Because even even if you buy for $300, so worst case scenario, it goes to $800, which is not gonna happen. Like, the the hype in this thing is pretty big, but I'm not expecting any... Anything out of it. It's why I'm speaking to you because we saw people spend $30 on Kite NFC doing the hype. That... That's how crazy this this space is. So just buy it, man, and just... It is what it is what it is, man. It's your your to me to me, I'm not saying you felt the money by... It's... You're just playing the game, and you're you're enjoying the the the whole vibe. Right? So you're not... I mean, if it goes 20, of course, I'm selling. But if it goes through couple of... Maybe three, four, I'm... I don't care about that, man. Right? But I I just like the fact that watch your NFT is coming, and we all get to mint, man. That's it.
[0:25:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Must be nice. Cool's trying to buy another house.
[0:25:11] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So so first down payment.
[0:25:13] Moni @monitalan: I think we say Yabibara who spent 30,000 on his NFT to tell us what he thinks.
[0:25:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. As if he would spend 30,000. Yeah. Go ahead.
[0:25:22] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Like to first to market first to market Kaito, it's not it's not gonna do Kaito things. You know?
[0:25:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's just let's just stop with the I disagree. Ridiculous right now.
[0:25:31] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I don't
[0:25:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: think it's gonna happen. Disagree.
[0:25:33] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's not gonna do Kaito numbers, bro. But it could it could... I could see it spiking up to, like, I don't know, $789.10 k if people go crazy on it. But, like, more realistically, it's probably gonna hover around $23,000 is what I think in in in my honest opinion. But... And, you know, it's still a cook. I mean, shit. If you can mint it, mint it. There's really... Like, you can't you can't go wrong. If you have the opportunity to do so, do so. But, Dave, to your point, I think there's a... The stages are capped. Right? So it can't mint out in stage one or two
[0:26:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: because Oh, yes. It can. Oh, you mean... Oh. So let's let's let's let's talk through it,
[0:26:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: though, really quick because, like, stage one has 300
[0:26:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: come first serve. My apologies. My apologies. My apologies.
[0:26:09] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Right. So stage one is 300, stage two is 800, and then it goes on from there. I believe that the... All four stages get a chance to mint. And then if everybody does, there's, like, 14... Or sorry. There's, like, 2,400 that are minted and then only about 300 become public. Something like that. So some sort of math like that. But here's here's the thing. If they're smart and it... And e... A stage doesn't mint out, they need to buy from their own ghost wallets to make it seem like it's selling out, and then it's gonna cook. If any stage doesn't sell out, then we're in trouble. That's all I'm saying.
[0:26:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: By the way, I just... For... In order for just fair and balance, x factor did call deck Prescott throwing three touchdowns the other night, and that didn't come true. So just to flip it on the other side. But point being,
[0:26:51] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: I love you, bro.
[0:26:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: Bro, bro,
[0:26:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: you caught my one my one bet. My one bet. I know. I was I was, like, five and one that last week, and this is this is what happens on the I'm
[0:26:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: never People never remember the wins, bro. Leave it. They only remember
[0:27:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Leave it leave it to leave it to the Jewish guy.
[0:27:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Leave it to the Jewish making crazy ass. Listen. My point is... And, Monica, I'm coming to you, then I'm gonna go to Rod... And Roger and Landy. But my point is, like, if you... Listen. I feel like I have a pretty good pulse on NFT mints. Right? Billions trying to mint out 8,888. I told everybody, you're out of your fucking minds. They told me I was crazy. It's gonna mint out. That didn't mint out. Okay? Did not mint out. That's my point. And if
[0:27:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Technically, it minted out. Just cut the supply.
[0:27:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. That's not a mint out. It's literally not the definition of a mint out. You say I wanna sell 8,888. You sold 5,000 and change. You did not mint out. End of story. My point is is this at... As... Listen to what Kool is saying. If y'all are still doubting this, man, you're out of your minds. I'm 100% in agreement with what Kool is saying. This thing is going to mint out, and it's going to mint out as fast as, like, the math will let it mint out. Do you understand? Because... And it's going to cook. Again, I don't know. Maybe I'm with you x factor. Maybe it doesn't go to 30 k. But when you look at the rewards that are on that board, that is a really, really big factor. So, again, if you are a new user out here, I'm
[0:28:14] Kkoma @itskkoma: telling factor.
[0:28:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's that?
[0:28:17] Kkoma @itskkoma: X factor. It's a big x factor.
[0:28:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a bit... Oh.
[0:28:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hey. Hey, baby.
[0:28:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you know that? It's me. Barra jokes.
[0:28:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Great to hear from you.
[0:28:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Barra jokes. We did miss you, you freaking pink tuxedo wearing Barra. What's up, bro? I need to hear from you real quick.
[0:28:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hello. This is me. It's Coma. Did Landy say that he called the top and the bottom yet? Probably.
[0:28:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[0:28:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. So didn't that. That was in the beginning. Let's continue. Yes.
[0:28:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Thank you.
[0:28:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: That's it. Guys see?
[0:28:44] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, man. We gotta we gotta get prediction markets on, Dave. We gotta we gotta focus to ninja prediction markets on ATP live, and we're streaming.
[0:28:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat and Lindy in my office after this show's over because if if coma is busting chops about us saying the same shit, and I told you so at every show, we... There's a problem here. So we're gonna need to figure something out. But, Roger, go for go for it really quickly, and then Wait.
[0:29:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: I'll say one thing. I'll say one thing. I think
[0:29:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: chime in.
[0:29:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. No. I'll just say that, yeah, that interesting interesting wall chain wall chain thing. Like, in in my mind, it's so funny that people care about utility now with NFTs. Like, it's just crazy, like, couple years ago. Like, literally, were just, like, Google Gogging over, like, the art and no utility and still paying, like, tens of thousands of
[0:29:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: dollars. Is like bro.
[0:29:30] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. The community, blah blah blah blah. Like, blockchain probably has one of the biggest communities, if anything. So I I don't know. Part of me is just like, you just take the risk if you have the money. If not, then just just see what happens. It's... Comparatively speaking, it's actually not that crazy expensive compared to, like, even, like, the the the azuki elemental mint was, like, one eath or something. So... Yeah. Crazy work. Yeah. That's that's insane.
[0:29:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good stuff, Toma. Good to... And it's good to have you back, bro. We definitely did miss you. Rod... Yeah. Don't get crazy. Roger, go for it.
[0:30:04] Voice I: Yeah. In my in my humble opinion, the world chain business is thriving. It will directly affect the offer subscription and the need to buy this NFT. But on the other hand, they've... People learned from that learned from the past experience. What happened with Skyto will not happen again. It will not go, like, to $30,000 for NFT. And once the price will pump enough, we are going to see, like, a huge selling activity, I believe, because people learned their mistake. Exactly how everyone became or wanted to became a dGen because of the markets. The market will shape the user, the incentives, the financial aspect of it. So, yeah, they have good amount of projects even if they apply the utility only about amplifying the mind shares. It's a huge utility, but everyone would like to do some degen moves and to try to to sell the top.
[0:31:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Are you... Is this your first... Is this your... All of your guys' first rodeo out here? Like, I don't understand the, like, the words that I'm hearing right now. Like, in what world? Literally, the mint can happen, and Yuri can put out a tweet that says point to increase in mind share for whatever. Like, as if we've never seen this before. And then everyone that said, oh, I'm going, I get it. You're making, like, your assessment based off of what's given right now. My point to everybody is, expect the unexpected a lot of times. I have no idea what's going to happen, and therefore, I am for sure as shit gonna make sure that this thing is sitting in my wallet, and I'm gonna be real comfortable not with my hand on the sell button right when the mint is over. I'm gonna watch people pile in because FOMO and speculation drives this entire industry. In what world do we live? Like, what... Like, guys, what's going on here? Who are you people? I don't even know who you are anymore. Landy, please talk to these people, and don't say something smart.
[0:32:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. As a... As somebody that's been around, for just a little bit here, I'm gonna say that, realistically, what I'm going to be focused on is looking at the mechanics of the money raised from the mint. Right? Because if you pair that with an ETGE, you have plenty of liquidity. You're not paying anything for the other side, right, because you're you're the one that's allocating tokens to the team for liquidity pools, and then you have to have the money on the other side to fund the other side of the pair. Right? And a a a... An NFT launch like this is a very good way to do that. I mean, bare minimum. I mean, if... Even if they do poorly on the mint, you're looking at $500,000 worth of liquid. Right? And that... That's a lot to to go ahead and throw on one side of that trade. Then you have instant valuation of a token, and then you... Then you're subject to the the actual mechanics of the tokenomics. And that's that's something that we are only starting to see, and that could be in addition to any raises behind the scenes, already allocated company capital to this stuff, right, so that you have a fleshed out treasury. You know, you can go and get market makers. You could do whatever you need to do to make sure that your token is a success. Therefore, your platform is a success. You can fund a whole bunch of things for your platform. This gives runway to projects. Right? And Wallchain is no longer this little try... You know, oh, we're trying to keep up with Kai... No. Now it's now it's starting to eat into the Kaido mind share for those in the Infofy ecosystem. Right? So this is, I think, a good model. You know, launching in in the red is is what is... Has everybody on edge. Right? Because... I'm sorry. Two and a half sold for a mint. Just just three, six months ago, we were minting stupid NFTs that had nothing, no attachment to anything for for five freaking soul. And everybody was going, it's gonna moon, baby. We're going up up up forever. It's never coming back down. Look at Solana just hit its all time high. We're going we're going places, baby. And you're talking about thousand, $1,500 mints for what I would say was terrible artwork with nothing that was gonna be attached to any kind of a project. It was literally art for art's sake, and I love artists. I do. But it was garbage art.
[0:35:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not $1,500 artist.
[0:35:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was it was BS. It was AI generated slop art, and it was literally selling out as people were going and throwing two and a half soul to a random wallet address on the promise of a meme token launch. I mean, come on. This is... Don't don't give me this, oh, it's so expensive stuff. That doesn't that doesn't fly with somebody like me. It shouldn't fly with any of you. If you find value in it, you'll mint it. If you don't find value in it, you won't. If you think that Infofy is going to be something that is going to continue to be a place where projects go in order to gather mind share in the future, then you're gonna be in on something like this. This is an investment. I like Cool's philosophy on that. Even if it gets to, like, 2, you know, 2 or $3, well, it's not even really something to sell at that point. Right? It's something to hold on to because now there's only a limited supply, and I did wanna correct x factor. It's one nine nine nine. So it's one shy of 2,000 in terms of supply. Right? So it's very small supply. Is the price a little bit higher than people would have expected or want? You know why they're complaining about the price? Because they want it. They want the access. They want to speculate.
[0:36:27] Kkoma @itskkoma: You know what I'll say? Basic... Like, just thinking about it from a Kaido, even the Yabibera perspective, it's just like an investment on yourself. Like, right now, they're doing, like, a... Like, the way... Holding a Yabibera is, like, a 10% boost on the SKaido, like like like, basically allocation on whatever projects. Today's point, this is just, like, the current, like, I guess, utility behind it. But you know what? You just never know what they're gonna say afterwards. But at the same time, I do acknowledge that sometimes people hold NFTs way too long. They bag hold, and then they end up just holding to... Till zero. Right? So, like, someone taught me this. I forgot. I don't know the exact, like, verbiage, but it basically hold one forever, get another one for trading, and then, like, hold one for, like like, I don't know, moon bagging or whatever. Right? So, essentially, you're gonna have to figure out a way to make sure to either, number one, be a badass in Wallchain and, you know, make the money through all the Infify stuff and hopefully the, like, the Wallchain NFT is like a booster somehow or, like, figure out how to trade these NFTs while holding one. Right? Like, for me, I hold, like, 8,000 eskaido or something around there, but, like, I made all of that back through all the info fi stuff I'm doing. So now it's just like I'm playing with house money. So figure out how to play with house money with these NFTs, and you'll figure it out. Right? Like, otherwise, you're just kinda, like, doing nothing and twiddling your thumbs and hoping someone will, like, pump your token up. Like, I'm... I think most of the... Like, pre Infofy stuff, I was just wah wah wah. Like, why isn't my, like, crypto token going up? Like, you know? Like, literally just work work for your bags a little bit. Like, you know? So just figure out how to, like, strategize this and make money.
[0:38:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: One to buy... One to one to hold, one to sell, one to trade. Okay? That's the mantra. That's how this shit goes. Okay? And you... By the way, and, we're gonna go Meta Beast and Moni, and I saw Wabi and, a few others came up. But, remember this, we know nothing of what the token is going to do. All of those quacks are going to mean something. If you think that the NFT is not gonna play into the same way that it does in Takaito, everyone is thinking so shortsighted. I don't understand. I'm really my... Like, you guys are burning my ears right now when I'm listening to a lot of some of this stuff. Like... And I'm just like, what? This is not our first rodeo out here. Go ahead, Metabeast, then we'll go Monica, Samara, and then I'll say what's up to Wabi.
[0:38:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I just wanted to affirm my commitment to trying to keep things non repetitive, While I would also like to affirm my commitment to the values of freedom, justice, and the solidarity as the foundation of social democracy, I will support the aims of the social democratic party of germ... I mean, New York and act according to its principles.
[0:39:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. I'm dead.
[0:39:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: How is he fucking... He comes over the mom that he's fucking Man. Yo. Dick, hey. Hey.
[0:39:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: I didn't ask you. What...
[0:39:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: What's up what's what's up in
[0:39:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: New York, man? Yo. Move to Texas. Back. Hey. Hey. Hey.
[0:39:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Hey.
[0:39:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Go ahead, Moni. Go for it, Monica.
[0:39:51] Moni @monitalan: I don't even know how to follow that, but I had a question for Koma. Do you remember... So, like, the the Yappy Bar NFT didn't go up in value immediately. Right? It was... It took time for, like... I don't I don't remember, honestly, the
[0:40:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: whole thing. They they had a sweet they had a sweet reward that was given, to holders, shortly afterwards, and then that pumped, that pumped the NFT quite a bit. And then the following rewards after that didn't, quite hold up to their end of the bargain, and then that's when...
[0:40:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Except there wasn't the reveal... Didn't the reveal take, like, two months or a month or something
[0:40:28] Moni @monitalan: like It took forever.
[0:40:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. No. But the reveal the reveal was fine. The the the capybara's was fine. Like, I don't think the art really was was the game changer. It was the rewards thing.
[0:40:37] Kkoma @itskkoma: Thank you, Koma. Said, though, like like, revealing to... Like, the the utility now was probably not the right play. Like, if you just look at the
[0:40:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: They didn't reveal anything, bro. That feels like the broadest thing ever.
[0:40:48] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. Said, no. You can say that it's
[0:40:50] xFactor @xFactorPOL: the most... In in the most
[0:40:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: general level. Let me land the plane. Let me land
[0:41:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: So, like, some of the launch could have been a little bit better, but I don't know. They're two engineers like me, so we're pretty dry sometimes. So maybe maybe we're like, oh, maybe we should just actually try to provide value at least in the beginning, and then they they kinda gave it... Gave away the secret sauce a little bit. But who knows?
[0:41:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who are you people? Hyperliquid? We're gonna compare Hyperliquid to fucking duck NFTs right now? Really? The amount of money Hyperliquid is generating, we're really gonna sit here and compare this.
[0:41:34] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Dave, you you you just said who are you people to, like, when we're speculating that it's not gonna be Kaito numbers. So now we're speculating higher, and you're like, who are you people? Who are you, David?
[0:41:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're not speculating higher. We're, like, we're measuring apples and fucking kumquats out here. Like, you know, what, like, The best...
[0:41:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What is the... Is the...
[0:41:54] Kkoma @itskkoma: A flattery is just copying. Let me pick this up. Get... We have NFTs. We're good.
[0:41:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: You get the analogy. You get what... You get the... Could have been like bananas or something, bro. You're weird,
[0:42:04] Moni @monitalan: Am I
[0:42:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: am I the only one was way better. Am I the only one okay with just buying and holding regardless? Because I feel like we're trying we are trying to, like The
[0:42:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: hedge queen is also Okay.
[0:42:17] xFactor @xFactorPOL: How do you hedge how do you hedge blockchain NFTs? How do you hedge blockchain NFTs? And can I port them over to Hedera
[0:42:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: for 15? Like crazy.
[0:42:25] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: There will be a calm before the Genesis.
[0:42:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know, I I could see that happening, guys. But what if it doesn't do those crazy numbers? What if it goes up, like, a 100%? But I think we have to be okay with what the outcome because the outcome is gonna be the outcome for this.
[0:42:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yep. But you're... You're you're correct also. I think another thing that a
[0:42:41] Kkoma @itskkoma: a lot of people are
[0:42:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: not talking about is, you know, I'm... I I am sure. Like, I'll be shocked if the NFT holders don't get a massive airdrop from from from from from the watering... From watering token itself. So that's another thing that's that's another thing to think of because it's... Even if you spend $300 on this thing and it goes to the 3 k, what if the freaking airdrop is, like, 10
[0:43:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: k each. Right? Exactly.
[0:43:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: What if what
[0:43:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: if the airdrop is $500 and that thing tanks to, like
[0:43:09] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro. Yeah. That's fine too, man. That's what I'm saying. Like, yo. That's also possible. The risk reward the risk reward is so much higher. Yes.
[0:43:17] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm just saying I'm just saying let's taper expectations.
[0:43:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No.
[0:43:20] Kool @koolcryptovc: That's what I'm saying. If if if if
[0:43:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: you spend
[0:43:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: if go.
[0:43:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: If you
[0:43:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: pay That's great. You spend $30 on this NFT now, and and and it thanks to... Either way either way, you're fine. Because if if you're willing to spend this much money on an NFT, you're already deep into ecosystem. If if even if you don't get too much money from the NFT itself, the rewards you make from the wall chain ecosystem would pay for the NFT. So either way, this NFT is gonna be free, man. Either way.
[0:43:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. So so think think about the... Think about this almost like the staking mechanism that Kaito has, the s Kaito. Right? Like, everybody that staked Kaito earlier early on in the ecosystem has gotten handsomely rewarded, and they're chilling. I think that's kinda what this wall chain NFT is gonna do since we're earlier in in wall chain. So even if the value is not a 100% what Kaido's was, I think it's gonna have intrinsic value if you keep using the platform. Correct. Which is great. If you're quacking, run it. You know? Own that shit.
[0:44:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. If you if you have... Which, by way, your boy just crossed 800 quacks today. If you have a decent number of quacks and you are eligible for this NFT and you're like, nah. You and a half sold? I'll mint it for you. I will spend the money, and you will transfer that NFT to one of my... The wallet of my choosing. Okay? That's that's... I'll make that offer to anybody because at the end of the day, like, are you kidding me? Like, how... This is this... Like, we talk about this every day. Cool. I'm gonna lose my mind out here, bro.
[0:44:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: The only... The Yeah. Go ahead, Dave. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[0:44:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Last thing that... And and I'll and I'll pass it over. But, like, we talk about this every day. You guys heard Cool talk about the monster windfalls. He had eight airdrops in a day in a day. So if you are out here quacking, okay, and the Infofy is your thing and you're debating, I don't know, that's on you. Don't come back and cry later. I'll tell you right now. Don't because I am not gonna be the shoulder to cry on. Nat Nat can give you a twelfth place trophy, but it is not gonna come from me because I listen to Kool when Kool speaks The same way that I listen to Nat and Landy win every single day. I'm a hater there. That's fine. But the same way that I listen to Kool, like, how has nobody been paying attention? Like, it's paid for its... You heard him say a 100 times. This NFT and my stake, Kaito, has paid for this a zillion times over. So come on. Like, at some point, we have to understand, yeah, let's temper expectations, and let's compare it to Kaito. Let's let's compare it to reality. That's what I want to compare it to and where we are currently at. You wanna throw Kaito out the window? Go for it. I'm looking at previous experience from what my cohost was literally saying and how this whole thing was flushing out, And I'm saying, this to me is gonna be a steal. If it flops, come back and fucking hate on me. But that's the call. That's the... That... I'm willing to die on that hill. Yeah. And that, and then let's go to Moni.
[0:46:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do have one concern. My only concern... Because I'm not concerned about the price in the short term. I do think that rewards are going to speak for itself, and, ultimately, the NFT is gonna pay for itself at some point. Right? But... So my only concern with this is I I... We have to have quick hands because I know we're not the only ones excited for this. There are other communities excited for this. Right? So we have to go in and pay and make sure we have everything ready so we don't miss out. My only concern would be, like, missing out. What if I'm not fast enough? You know what I mean?
[0:46:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: But as long as long
[0:46:53] xFactor @xFactorPOL: as you're there for your mint window, you're gonna be okay because there's there's enough supply for the first four stages. So as long as you're there and you mint, you're... You should be okay.
[0:47:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think Nat, are you in the first four?
[0:47:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: I am. Yeah. I'm in I'm in the fourth place, but I'm I'm okay with that. Right? Because I'm realistic too. Right? I started late. I I was I was out for almost all the entire thing. I've only been cracking for, like, what, five weeks. So I'm okay. I'm actually very grateful that I even got a spot.
[0:47:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I like that. Love it. Yeah. Monica, go for it.
[0:47:22] Moni @monitalan: The only thing... I do wanna say that I can never compare myself to cool. I don't know how you do it besides your eight kids yanking for you. No....
[0:47:32] Kkoma @itskkoma: A seater now, not a quacker. That's the difference. Yeah.
[0:47:35] Moni @monitalan: I I also think that we all have our own platforms. I'm not a good quacker. I'm better in seat. So I also think... Keep in mind. So don't listen to Dave and comparing yourselves to cool because I think cool is kinda, like, the highest level. But just know that I am gonna buy the NFT because I do think it's gonna bring some benefits, and then hopefully, I can flip it at some point. But, yeah, don't compare yourself to cool.
[0:48:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's a great point, Monica. She's actually right, Dave. She's... I mean... No. She's
[0:48:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: say don't... I didn't say compare yourself to cool. I'm saying listen to cool. So maybe you don't get eight freaking airdrops. Maybe you get two. Okay.
[0:48:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I appreciate a compliment from cool over a score on a leaderboard.
[0:48:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Random. But, Monica, how many quacks do you have? When you say you're not a good quacker, how many quacks do you have?
[0:48:28] Moni @monitalan: Like, a 20, but I've been doing so
[0:48:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: much. You have how
[0:48:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: much? Girl, I
[0:48:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: have 20. Period.
[0:48:37] Moni @monitalan: But I have a a thousand seeds.
[0:48:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not
[0:48:40] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: a good cracker.
[0:48:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, yeah,
[0:48:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: if I had
[0:48:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100 and change tells me otherwise, Moni
[0:48:45] Kkoma @itskkoma: thinks that I'm not good either. Well, yeah, well, change not... Hasn't been friendly.
[0:48:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm sure.
[0:48:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can go ahead. I'm sorry. Oh my god. Oh my god. But but you know you know what
[0:48:55] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I did notice, though? Once I started doing more wall chain activities with the aligners and the beyond board, Kaido nerfed me completely. Kaido was like, alright. Screw you. Zero yaps. See you later. So that's cool.
[0:49:09] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. That happened to me too, but I'm back to making... To earning yaps. But I will tell you, the only project that I'm committed to on Wallchain at this point is aligners. I'm aligned with you guys, but, of course, I'm cracking a little bit. A that's
[0:49:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: a great point.
[0:49:26] Moni @monitalan: Because I do look at the projects. Right? I'm not gonna be cracking about everything. Anyway, sorry, Nat.
[0:49:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. It's okay, honey. You're fine. You can speak over me whenever. It's fine. Because you you you you brought up a great point. Right? Every community is is is different. Everyone has a different... I don't know. Everyone has a different niche. Everyone have their their different markets. Right? Some people are really great with Seeds. Some people are really great with Kaido, and others are really great with with with Wallchain, and I think to eat their own. And I... And and and I really like that that that statement. But I do think aligners is the way... That might be my last project, my first my first and my last project at Wallchain. But that... Yeah. That's a that's a conversation for another day.
[0:50:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: And my first and my last one, she said.
[0:50:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: Dave, you did it.
[0:50:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, no.
[0:50:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: You just converted someone, now she's quitting.
[0:50:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. At worst, my it's it's my co host nonetheless.
[0:50:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: This is not good for ATC nonsense right now. Yeah. So I'm not saying I'm I'm I'm quitting aligners. I love aligners. It's just for me, I I have to, like, give myself a a little bit of time time to, like, really dissect everything. And then if if watching does come out with another project that I'm interested in, then I'll continue. But as of right now, I'm, like, I'm with Monica. Aligners is really the only one that's on there that I'm interested in for now.
[0:50:41] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: Nat?
[0:50:41] Moni @monitalan: Nat, you would be great at seat. I'm gonna... I'm You stop it.
[0:50:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop trying to steal my coals over to another platform. But, Nat, I'll say this. Okay? Like, just bear with me for a little bit. Just ride with me for a little bit longer because it would be... Imagine the story that we can tell. Somebody that just came into Infopy, 20 quacks, got the NFT, right, aligners, TGE, got an extra allocation. Who knows? Not... It would be the, like, this
[0:51:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: But I feel like it's okay. So I feel like I feel like I feel like we're rich. Yeah. I feel like we're misunderstanding the whole thing. I'm not shutting it down. I'm just saying I don't see any projects right now on on Wallchain, at least for me, in my perspective, that's worth the quacks. Right? And like, aligners, I like them because they are... What they're doing, I I can stand behind it a 100%. But I'm not disappearing. I'm I'm I'm... Like I mentioned, right, I am excited about the NFTs. I'm hope... My my only fear is is not being able to make one, but I I hope I'm able to make one because I think they're gonna be be reap great rewards. All I'm saying is that don't count on me to, like, be, like, cool. Same as Monica and and go age hit on all of these projects because I really need to take my time and go project for project and read what they're all about and do all of these and and do my own research on all of that. Need to dissect all the information because that's... Right now, the only one that's getting my attention is aligners.
[0:51:57] Kkoma @itskkoma: Can I suggest something, Netnet? Can you, like, talk to the Hedera, like, leadership and just ask them to just put it... Put their, like, project on a Infofy platform? And then that way, you're aligned on one of these projects and You hear that, Cancer? Exactly do what you
[0:52:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: need But I just wanna make sure that I'm getting my message across because you guys, I feel like we took it down, like, the negative way. I like aligners. I'm here all the way until aligners and PGEs and all of that great stuff. Are are we are we on the same
[0:52:27] Kkoma @itskkoma: Then she's dumping and leads. I'm kidding.
[0:52:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: See what happens when you make number one and number two on the leaderboard? Your friends think you're coming for them every time. It's like, don't fuck my bags, bro. That is the furthest thing. Nat, obviously, everybody do you and what you think is obviously best. But, yeah, Landy, go for it, bro.
[0:52:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: I think, Nat, I think you'd be interested in Beyond, which is a Bitcoin focused project.
[0:52:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, yeah. What? That's a great point. I'm a have to look into that one.
[0:52:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Look. In in That was great. We have have an NFT historian in the house. You know, he can always come up and explain how the NFT prior history... I know I know that many don't like history or lines on charts, but we do have an NFT historian down there that could probably be like, hey. You know, when I'm looking at this......
[0:53:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Beautiful day in the bay.
[0:53:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, not that not that history. We have another historian down there. I see Adam. But, look, this is this is probably gonna be hotly debated right up until it mints. And and then the debate is either gonna be like, oh my god. It minted out so fast and I could have had a chance at it and I didn't get it. Or it doesn't mint out. Everybody goes, oh, look at it. It didn't mint out. Blah blah blah. And then all of a sudden, some news drops, and then the rest gets minted out or something in public face. Look. The the biggest... The the the biggest point here is I think a lot of the the angst about something like this and a lot of what's going on is due to what's happening in the overall market right now. And we have a lot of people who are still patiently waiting for that alt season that has not come. And then you have Bitcoin dumping out to key levels, and it's like, oh, no. Could it... Could... This can't possibly get worse. And now you're asking me to go and mint this thing and and to to to... So it's it's a tough thing right now, and I am being serious about this. It's tough right now for a crypto guy out there and a crypto gal out there. These streets are running with blood, and everybody's like, I I got no liquidity. I need to go and ask friends to do this, and can we pull funds? And because that is where we're at right now in terms of what's happening in the market. But all it takes is a couple of green candles, and everybody's all excited again. Right? Like, we we know how this space is. So give it some time. And look. It's within five days for, I believe, the the first two phases. Right? The the... Basically, a guaranteed phase is phase one, and then the first come, first serve phase will start directly after that for stage two. And then the rest are first come, first serve, and then public. Right? So I I... We can hand ring about it, but all it's gonna take is for the market to turn green again and then all of the fears go away and people are bullish and they're gone yellow. We're gonna wag me. We're gonna we're gonna all just be rolling in the dollars, Lambos back on the table again, all that kind of stuff.
[0:55:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's gonna increase the value of the NFTs once you get to that point. Right?
[0:55:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, sure. Yeah.
[0:55:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Absolutely.
[0:55:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, Monique. Go...
[0:55:41] Moni @monitalan: I just love how long we've been taking... Talking about Infify and
[0:55:44] Bread @_ToastMalone: a lot changes.
[0:55:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're gonna go the whole damn show if I need to, like, bury this in people's head, goddamn it.
[0:55:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crazy work out here.
[0:55:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is
[0:55:53] Moni @monitalan: gonna be all things simplify.
[0:55:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brady promised something weird or interesting.
[0:56:00] Kkoma @itskkoma: Go ahead, man. I was just... Sorry,
[0:56:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: mad man.
[0:56:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: He promised something extremely interesting or weird today. I forget which. But...
[0:56:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Interesting and weirdly. I... No. Dave, I know what he's alluding to. He's he's alluding to how interestingly and weirdly excited Landy's been during the downturn in the crypto markets and how interesting and weirdly excited Landy is about yield opportunities. And I love yield, so, I'm just gonna I'm gonna yield the microphone back
[0:56:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: to you.
[0:56:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys should have seen Landy in the Hermetica space, first off. You should have seen him in the Hermetica space. He was literally like a child. Like, he he he he he like, giddy, giggling, like, b BTC yield.
[0:56:44] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh my Bro bro's gonna shlong everything.
[0:56:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it. Yeah. He is gonna shlong everything at this one, bro.
[0:56:51] Bread @_ToastMalone: Keep your cum class to yourself, bro. Yeah.
[0:56:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was kinda nuts. I was like, I mean, I'm glad he showed up after taking a seven week sabbatical on the Hermetica Hangout, and he even wears the badge. I don't even have a badge. You believe this nonsense? I'm the host, and I don't have a badge. But whatever. It is what it is. I'm waiting for the wall chain badge, but it's fine. It'll come. Oh, Anyways Can you shave
[0:57:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: your head?
[0:57:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shadow. I did not shave my head. I cut my hair, though.
[0:57:15] Kkoma @itskkoma: I see. You need to. That's how you get the wall chain badge.
[0:57:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you see the tater videos, by the way? The tater video has me shaving my head. They have me shaving my head like a potato peel. Yeah. They shaved my head like a potato. It's pretty dope. You should go check it out. I see you did not mint a potato NFT.
[0:57:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Potatoes potatoes don't shave their heads. They peel their heads.
[0:57:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I think I'll interject and say congratulations. We we have a special guest in the house. So I have to congratulate everybody on stage and everybody in the audience.
[0:57:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, OTG. Hi, OTG. How are you? Can we bring him up? Mhmm. Okay. I'm gonna bring him up. Invite to speak. Who? On the go. On the go. He is one of the the... Oh my god. I'm gonna... I'm just gonna say he's one of the traders on Simple Spaces. Oh.
[0:58:00] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Okay. And
[0:58:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: he does this thing happening here. He does this thing where he says congratulations at the beginning of every show because he... He's really in... If you want someone that's, like, in the trenches, like, trading, like, multiple, like, 10 and 20 coins a day, that's that's OTG.
[0:58:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: OTG, before you say... First off, welcome to all things crypto. I just need to give you a little bit of a backstory. I have officially kicked out bits of wealth out of the space because he's just coming at me, and he's kind of a... I'm kidding. But regardless, they will... Here is that they do wall space. They do wall spaces. And now the wall spaces are permeating in here. They're permeating slowly, and I know what it is. They're trying to steal my position on that that's mind chair leaderboard for wall chain. And I just would like you to know, and if you can convey this message to the rest when you go back to them, that it will never happen. I will never let it happen. And Larena, the ATC, is staying right here in ATC. You hear that, Mario? She's staying right here in Mario too. OTG, welcome, bro. What's up?
[0:59:05] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: What's up? I already love the energy in here. This is fantastic. Congratulations, of course, to everybody trading crypto. If you're trading it, you're making that bread. The last three days has been stupid, stupid money. This is, I love the vibes in here, man. I popped in here a couple of times, and, it kinda lurked around a little bit like a dirty DJ, you know, just kinda peeking in on you guys and looking at you and listening to you.
[0:59:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Well, Dave likes all
[0:59:31] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: that stuff, man.
[0:59:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know, the second the first one to unmute his mic, freaking guy.
[0:59:36] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: No. This is, I mean, anywhere anywhere that Landy and Nat Nat get down, I'm I'm definitely down to get down. It's it's gotta be good vibes that they wouldn't be in. So I'm, I'm a huge fan, man. I've... Like I said, I've been stalking y'all from a distance for a minute. But, honestly, it's been a... I've been neglecting my my spaces, you know, responsibilities. I feel like Kate over at Wolf is gonna, like, you know, come find me and tase me if I'm late or miss another space. It's just too... You know how it is. When the market when the market gives us these kind of trade windows, it's... You just... You have to. You just life... Why... It's why we're here. You know what I mean? These are the bread and butter days that you make in a day, which you make in a quarter. You know? So this is... It's all money, man.
[1:00:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey, Dave. You wanna know why I took a nap earlier? You could hear it in OTG's voice. He's been up trading like crazy
[1:00:24] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: in so and so. Yes. Did that happen. So much, dude. I know. Honestly, I quit drinking probably a week ago. Like, I don't drink a whole lot, but I don't even drink a drop right now because I I mean, I get one drop in me. I'm 40 years old. I'm sleepy. You know? I get half a scotch in, and you think I had a bottle in me. I'm I'm out like a baby with a boba. So I... And when the money is this good,
[1:00:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: you know, you
[1:00:48] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: just can't afford to be, can't afford to be any lazier than I already am. You know?
[1:00:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got you. OTG, man. You're welcome, obviously, here anytime. Anybody, obviously, that shares the stage and gets the accolades that Nat and Landy give, like, obviously, like, welcome here anytime, man. But that word actually segues perfectly into me ratting Nat out. Cool.
[1:01:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god.
[1:01:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here we go. Yeah. That that that that. Cool. Allow me to tell you what Nat Nat did this morning, bro. We were on the aligner space. Alright? I cohost her, her and miss Gekko. We go through the whole show. Great show. Incredible. Driving value. People asking questions. Fantastic. Nate... Nat's given out 12 place trophies to everybody. Good job. Good job. Feel good. Amazing. The close of the space. Okay? Yeah. I have to go. Also, there's... I got a crazy slate of things. I'll see you later, Cade. The fuck?
[1:01:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Cade. Oh, I love it.
[1:01:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's so hilarious because because not only wait, Dave. You're you're also missing a little bit of context because Cade was hosting a space that you were also on the week before, and you had this joining, this conglomeration, this amoeba that that is that is wolf slash a t c crew all in the same space talking about AI, and then she hits you with the cane.
[1:02:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, know
[1:02:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: that it's so funny.
[1:02:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Talk to talk talk to our cohost, bro. Talk to her. Let her know, okay, that this is... I I... Bro, I was in shock. I was looking at the screen. I couldn't believe I couldn't believe what I was looking at, cool.
[1:02:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Was like, is this my... In my defense... The... In my in my defense, I was getting ready to hop on to the market talk space. I was running a little late. The speed was already started. I kinda have to leave. I'm... You're prepared. I felt embarrassed. I felt embarrassed.
[1:02:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: And they... And Nat... Sorry. Nat and I talk about ATC on those spaces as well. When we're referencing the other stages that we talk about things on, we always reference ATC. This
[1:02:57] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So is this is
[1:02:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: just a beaut... If if she... I I wouldn't be surprised if she says, have a great rest of your day, Dave to Kade. I wouldn't... It would not surprise me.
[1:03:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Has that happened? No. And when that happens to Kade, I'm sure he's gonna be the really nice guy, he's gonna laugh it off and be so sweet. I'm emotional. Okay? I've been in crimp all too long. Alright? Kade is out here trading potato NFTs just like bread was for a car for NFTs. That was a crazy story, by the way, that I heard from Cade one time. He literally traded a car for... To buy NFTs. It was insane. Anyways, I'm emotional, Landy. Okay? I need loyalty. I do
[1:03:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: K, Whitney.
[1:03:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Yo.
[1:03:40] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yo. Yo. Are you kidding me? Needs an airdrop ASAP.
[1:03:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. I need... Yo. You guys see why I'm passionate about all this. ASAP. I need... Yeah. I know. I need this airdrop. Need... Guys, I'm stretched too thin, man. Does anybody wanna be my assistant? I will boost your mind share. I need an assistant to help with admin work. I need lots and lots of assistance. Tons of assistance and assistance. Please.
[1:04:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh. Junie's just not cutting it anymore. What's going on?
[1:04:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I literally... You guys wanna laugh? You know what I just I literally... As I put the art... The NFT wall chain article into GPT earlier just to make sure I got the facts and everything, you know what it says? Do want me to set alarms and reminders? This is how well it knows me. I've never done this before. I said yes. She writes, locked in, Dave. I set up nine alerts in your time zone so you don't miss quack heads. Stage one, six forty five, fifteen minute heads up. Stage two, twenty minute heads up. Stage three, thirty minute heads up. And an hour and two hours before, I'm essentially getting notifications to my email because it's connected to my Gmail to my Gmail. This is... It's still not enough. Okay?
[1:04:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, that... That's great, though. That's that's you trying to be as organized as possible. That's beautiful, Dave. I think... You know what? Kudos to you. That's great.
[1:04:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see, look at her. Look at
[1:04:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: her blazing me right now. You see what she's doing?
[1:04:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you see what she's doing right now? Do you see this?
[1:05:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know I'm always proud of you whenever you do something like that. I've I've said it to you, Mandy, because I know it's not easy.
[1:05:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm proud of you too, Kate.
[1:05:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yeah. I know it's not easy.
[1:05:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not not... You can't laugh when he says stuff like that. Okay.
[1:05:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. I know it's not easy having ADHD. So whenever you get... You get
[1:05:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: to a spot where you can master the... It's so hard.
[1:05:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: I know. So whenever...
[1:05:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's so hard....
[1:05:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: That you can be, like, mentally organized and even clicking these things and schedule yourself, I think it's huge.
[1:05:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: One ADA badge, bro. When can we just get... Is our hand in those out in
[1:05:34] xFactor @xFactorPOL: this space?
[1:05:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I know. I know. We definitely need one of those.
[1:05:37] Kkoma @itskkoma: But You should use this wall chain thing as a motivator to create your own ATC NFTs, and then, you know, it'll give you exclusive access to, you know, a a group as well and some other stuff. You know? Why why don't you... What's the... What's holding you back?
[1:05:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, do you hear this?
[1:05:52] Kkoma @itskkoma: Admin work.
[1:05:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you hear this right now? Like, I swear it's a zip code. Slap me. You took out the glove, and you literally just slapped me in the face and said, oh, those those ENS names that you minted 217 of that you wanted to give the exact utility that essentially Koma just described? No. Different. Uh-huh. Did you get one Koma? Yes or no? No. Oh my god. You know what? I'm gonna go pull the... I'm literally gonna go pull the confirmation through... And find the transaction just as... Comma, I'm a let you off the hook because you're busy, and we've missed you the last couple days. I'm a let you off the hook.
[1:06:27] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's been rough.
[1:06:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's been rough. Know. I assume. It's fine.
[1:06:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, jeez. Oh, so you're understanding to to to... Is it is it the... I'm... You know? Exactly Not
[1:06:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: you, Monica. I mean,
[1:06:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Matt. Yeah. See, I think
[1:06:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: work on it. Yeah.
[1:06:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: To me, that would be funny.
[1:06:44] Moni @monitalan: We all sound alike, Matt. Yeah. But it's
[1:06:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: good Should
[1:06:47] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I call off the hit?
[1:06:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. One... Yeah. Call it off, Metaphys. Bring it back. One Chunkla is same. Another chunk. But, well, I wanna I wanna chat with OTG real quick because I've never had the chance to, and I wanna hear a different Bitcoin take from not... I win every day. I win every day. Okay. We get it. You know how to hedge. OTG, can you tell us, like, what's your assessment of this current, like, Bitcoin market? I know, obviously, you're trading and you're like, this is what we wait for, but what are you looking at now and kinda how are you viewing these markets, man? Talk to us. I'd love to hear a different voice on this, if you don't mind. And you're not sleeping or drinking?
[1:07:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think he's in the
[1:07:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: middle of... You do both. You're sleeping and drinking at the same time. Yeah.
[1:07:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's like, yes. I think I think he's in the middle of a trade. So whenever he's in the middle of a trade, he's very, very... He's focused on that. So you gotta give him a bit. He... He'll come back around.
[1:07:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You're good. So, man, this is the other thing. Right? Like, do I miss the trading money? I do. But it took a lot... I remember in 2021, like, I was barely sleeping. It was a lot. Right? Because, like, I'm someone that, like, when I zero in on something, like you said, Nat, like, I'm severely ADHD, so I have to see something through. Right? And there was arbitrage opportunities up the wazoo. Right? And there was amazing nights with... And amazing money too. But I I don't I don't have it in me anymore. Right? The same way that you hear cool being like, yo. This info five thing, as tough as that is, it's not trading. It doesn't take the emotional toll on you. Right? You don't have to be on twenty four seven. Coma's doing the DeFi thing now. Right? Like, that stuff makes... It's like, we're going to the retire... Cool. Coma, we're going into the retirement homes.
[1:08:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I agree, dude. I can't lock... I can't do... Like, as as much as I... You know, the training was really fun. It's also very... I mean, maybe I'm not as, like, sophisticated as NetNET and Landy, but I can't look at a training screen while trying to work at the same time either. So it... It's just like there's just too many things going on. And, obviously, I think you need, like, some type of, like, some mental fortitude to be like, oh, yeah. I'm down, like, 10%, but it's, like, 10% leverage. It's like, you know, it's... The swings are pretty wild. And, you know, I... Even as, like, a sports gambler, like, can handle sports gambling because it's, like, somewhat self paced. But with trading, it's it's... Sometimes it just feels like... I don't know. It just feels like a huge, like, f one rush. And you... I can't even sleep with, like, a position open, so I try to avoid training unless it's, like, delta neutral or whatever. But... Yeah.
[1:09:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. That's a great point. And and and and I think when it comes to improvise, everyone has a different perspective because we've had people on this stage saying that for them, this is... That's stressful. Right? The fact that they've been been putting up polls and polls and polls after polls and polls and their mind share isn't isn't increasing or they... I believe they said their x score isn't increasing for... So for people like that, amplifying can be stressful too. So it's all it's all a matter of of perspective. Go ahead, Lendi.
[1:09:42] Kkoma @itskkoma: Do you stick with the position open and stuff?
[1:09:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do you guys okay with that? Because I'm... We're heads. Like, if I wasn't head, I... There was no way I will be able to...
[1:09:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah.
[1:09:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Because... Look. I actually find trading cathartic. Like, it actually relaxes me to trade. The stressful thing is, like, trying to come up with an interesting post about something in info file. Like, I'm not that interesting of a person. I'm literally a nerd who trades. Right? Like, I'm I'm a Bitcoin first trader. Like, that that... So this is... When it's outside of my comfort zone, that's actually stressful. But, like, even now, I'm I'm over here. I'm looking at charts. I have open trades. I'm monitoring what's going on. But the other thing is is, you know, if you're trading, you can go to sleep if you have stops and you have hedges. Right? So it... It's it's just a matter of making sure that you don't have all of your trading pot on one centralized exchange or perp decks, and you're spreading things out, and you're being logical and methodical, and you're following a plan. Because all I'm doing is following a plan. And those silly lines on the chart are just part of me planning how I'm gonna execute trades, and then that system just runs itself. Right? I just set it up. It goes. And that's something, like, you can equate it to Dave just figuring out that he can schedule posts. Right? Okay. I can schedule posts, and you just set it up and it goes. Right? Like, you don't have to worry about it. Dave is literally a content machine, and as are many of you that are in the Infophy space. That's, like, comes natural to you guys. And I can understand how that can... How the trading side of things can become stressful because it's not necessarily your wheelhouse because it's not your main focus. Right? And and that's this kind of adjustment can be, in terms of comparison, can be seen on both sides. I encourage everyone to at least learn charting. Like, you don't have to go and trade it to chart it and figure out, like, hey. You know what? It's hitting certain levels. I might wanna go and buy a little bit of Bitcoin here. Right? Even if it goes lower. Hey. Who cares? I could always buy some more as long as I'm managing my portfolio the correct way.
[1:12:00] Kkoma @itskkoma: Yeah. I will say... Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
[1:12:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. Go ahead, Komor. Please.
[1:12:04] Kkoma @itskkoma: No. I will say I I feel like a lot of us have been in crypto long enough where, you know, people are yelling bear market or whatever. But for us, it's just kinda like, okay. Cool. Like, I just lost, like, 20%, but it's okay because, you know, like, we... We've we've experienced even worse, and maybe it will come or maybe it won't come. But at the same time, you know, I I I don't really sense a lot of, like, crazy panic necessarily amongst ourselves in this space, and I I... That kinda shows me that we've been in this space for a very long time.
[1:12:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: We have. We're becoming immune. We're becoming immune that
[1:12:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: We are. We are. But I... Landy, I love what you said, and I'm glad you said it. Because if I would have said that posting both... Posting every hour, every day, every day, they would have laughed like he's laughing now because it's coming from me. Right? You see? You see? But you're absolutely right, and you said it so beautifully. Like, if you're not used to something, once once you start doing it, it's, like, stressful. Like, especially if you're not if you're not as creative as others or you you see yourself, you know, struggling to come up with a pulse on a day to day basis and try to be as creative and not sound like monotone and saying the same thing. Like, some people, that can be stressful, and I'm I'm glad you brought that up. And I'm glad Dave didn't laugh at you because if I would've thought, he probably would've laughed at me.
[1:13:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, Nat, I can I can hear it in your post, by the way? I can hear the struggle. Like, when Nat Nat got, like, two to three weeks in, I could hear... Her posts were yelling for help. It was just like, I I don't know what else. Wonder Woman and Rock. Like, that's my key way, and I love it.
[1:13:41] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I love the challenge that it it gives me. I think it helps me stay creative.
[1:13:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. It is challenging. And for some people, that can be good too because it can help with your creative flows.
[1:13:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. 100%. Go ahead, Monique. Sorry. Yeah. Let me go
[1:13:55] Moni @monitalan: ahead talk about the Mandy. I wanna argue with... Not argue, but debate Landy's and Nat's position that they're not good content creators. They're not amazing content creators.
[1:14:09] Kkoma @itskkoma: No.
[1:14:09] Moni @monitalan: Landy, the videos that you do every day, like, the training, that's amazing content. Nat, you are a super... I'm not just saying that because I like you guys. Like, you guys actually inspire me to be a better content creator. So don't say you're not... Now you just... I think the amplify game of, like you said, right, creating so much content about one project can be a challenge, which is why you will, like, see. But, anyway, I think More chills. This
[1:14:38] Kkoma @itskkoma: crazy work
[1:14:40] Moni @monitalan: on this. But I do think... Don't under... I think you both are amazing content creators was my whole thing.
[1:14:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: And Dave just told me that my posts are shit, so there's that. Yeah.
[1:14:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm gonna, like, literally on life support, like, some of them, and I was just like, Nat is crying for help, but, like, listen. We all had to figure it out. She's a big girl. She's figure this out. You know?
[1:15:01] Moni @monitalan: Eventually, you can spaces are content creation. Right? Like... Facts. Actually, I did a post yesterday on, like, the... What... How much content creation is worth, right, and how many companies are now high... Hiring editorial and content creation even in the age of AI. So, anyway, I think spaces are content creation.
[1:15:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: That
[1:15:22] Moni @monitalan: is... Streams are content creation.
[1:15:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Moni, that's a really good point because this is where I see, you know, Dave, Cole, Nat, and ATC in general going because, look, they... We're gonna see more and more deals from larger players coming into this space who want access to brilliant hosts and content creators. But here's here's the difference, though, between my content as a trader. That's my wheelhouse. I've studied this for so long that I have... I've forgotten more than most people will ever know about trading. And and and I'm not saying that because I'm some sort of an elitist. It's just I've been doing this for so long. It is my wheelhouse. Bitcoin is my wheelhouse. Charts are my wheelhouse. But what Infofly does is it exposes how much I don't know about what the hell is going on. And that to me is an uncomfortable position to be in, is to not understand what it is that I'm gonna post about, meaning that I have to now go do the research. So that's pressure on me to actually perform due diligence in an in an area where I am not yet comfortable on thing... On subjects that I'm not as familiar with. And that's pretty normal. Right? It's a learning process, and it will take me time just like it'll take Nat Nat time. And that's why you are so valuable, Moni. I've... I said this to you on the timeline. Dave, Cool, and and Coma, and Samara, and x factor, and everybody else is doing the info phi stuff. You know, that is why we lean on you guys and wanna talk to you guys. That's why this show is so damn valuable and and and needs... You know, those big companies that are that are looking for real value and real people to get out there and teach people what to do? Right here. It's right here all the time, four days a week. Sometimes five when when bread wants to fire up a... Less things crypto. Right? Like, this is this is where people like us who are unfamiliar with with things go to learn more. And I'd I'd argue that I'm one of the most siloed on stage here because I have my head totally in the game on Bitcoin that it's very hard for me to see past it.
[1:17:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff, Lindy. Appreciate you. Yeah. And, Boni, good stuff. Yeah. I think everybody has to find their lane. You know what I mean? You have to find your lane. That's all it is. Find your lane, figure out what you're great at. But, yeah, like, I I I agree. Like... And, Landy, the one thing I did wanna say too to your and Nat's point, obviously, what you guys have been preaching, I literally just saw an article that said Bitcoin whales are feasting in this climate with 50,000 BTC scooped up in a single day. Like, I mean, think about, like, that's massive. 50,000 BTC is, like, half the trading volume on the day. And considering how red of a day it was, it just goes to show how much, like, people... Like, how much whales are actually... What they believe in. And the follow-up article I saw to that was BTC is infrastructure, not digital gold. And that one made me even more, like like, gave me a more positive outlook on on really the future of this whole thing, which is why, like, I had no problem buying more Bitcoin at a 101,000. If I had more fun... If... Yo. Justin Sun, pay your bills, bro. Although we love you. When I get that check when I get that check from last month, bro, that's going right back in, bro. I would I would love for it to see 88 k at this point. You know what I mean?
[1:18:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: There we go.
[1:18:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Retest the... Yeah. Retest the loads. We're good. Obviously, like, I do a lot of this stuff for the content. You know what I mean? And by the way, last thing I'll say is nobody here is prevent... Nothing is stopping anybody here on this panel or here in this room to going and repurposing all ATC stuff. You wanna do recaps? Just tag Lurky in the comments. You wanna pull this and go to any other transcription service and pull that transcription and make a post and summarize what we talked about? God bless. Welcome to the fan assistant. Would love that. Where's Vibes? She's fired. She's a terrible intern. She should be doing stuff like this. You know what I mean? But whatever. Here we are. Guys, any other stories before we... Brett, anything on the prediction market side, bro? I know you've been kinda quiet. We've chatting Bitcoin, but anything other than your rant session? Again, this isn't therapy. We... We're... We know you're building a lot.
[1:19:52] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, bro. No. I'm good today. No. Yesterday was shit. But, yeah, today we're chilling, bro. Today is all good. You know? Not... Biggest news in PMs really is that Polymarket announced that, like, yeah, they're gonna be ultimately taking a fee. It's, like, one basis point. So it's, like, point o o one, of transactions of volume. So, I mean, like, that's that's bonkers, bro, considering they do, like, billions of dollars in volume, like, on any given weekend. You know? They're like, those fees are gonna are gonna ramp up. And, you know, obviously, the speculation is, it'd be dope if all those fees went into a big old pool for their airdrop on their token. Right? That would be, that would be pretty cool. So, we'll we'll see we'll see what happens. But naughty other than that, it's just a boring ass Wednesday, bro. Nothing's happening.
[1:20:46] Moni @monitalan: Have a question.
[1:20:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Go ahead, Monica.
[1:20:48] Moni @monitalan: What if Polymarket... And don't shoot me. Everybody expecting the airdrop. What if they do an IPO versus an airdrop? Is that even likely, Landy?
[1:21:01] Bread @_ToastMalone: I mean, they could do... They could tokenize their IPO at this point. There's teams out there building that. You know? So, I mean, maybe hybrid.
[1:21:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: You wanna know... You guys don't wanna know what I heard when when when Brett said they're taking
[1:21:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: one point o o one basis point?
[1:21:21] Bread @_ToastMalone: When the subroutine compounds the interest, right,
[1:21:24] Voice M: it uses all these extra decimal places that just get rounded off. So we simplified the whole thing, and we just... We round them all down and just drop the remainder into an account that we opened. So you're stealing? No. Now you understand this. It's very complicated. It's it's it's aggregate, so I'm talking about fractions of a penny here. And over time,
[1:21:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: they add up to a lot. Oh, okay.
[1:21:53] Moni @monitalan: So you're making a lot of money. Right? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Positive money.... Yours?
[1:21:57] Voice M: Well, it it becomes ours.
[1:22:00] Moni @monitalan: How is that not stealing?
[1:22:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: When Brett said fractions of, like, one basis point, all I'm thinking is, so fractions of a penny. Hey, Polymarket? Yeah. That fractions of a penny is gonna turn out to be Google earnings call, $102,000,000,000 quarter over quarter money. You watch. That's gonna be wild. But, yo, there was a massive win as... Landy, as bitter as we are about Mamdani winning. That's a win for prediction markets, bro. 96 to 4% prediction markets rule out here.
[1:22:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: Thirty minutes early too.
[1:22:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was
[1:22:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: the other thing, bro. Thirty minutes early, dog. That's crazy that they they announced that before. Thirty minutes, bro.
[1:22:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's big. That's big, big. Yeah.
[1:22:43] xFactor @xFactorPOL: We'll just check the PolyMarkets, guys.
[1:22:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you, Tom Brady. Appreciate you. Yeah. Avi, welcome, man. What's good?
[1:22:50] Voice N: Yeah. I I joined the stage when you guys are talking about the wall chain NFT... NFTs. And you mentioned you wanted... You you wanna you wanna actually want your mind. So I'm here to auction off my NFT.
[1:23:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: My boy. Wait. Which group are you in?
[1:23:12] Voice N: I'm stage four.
[1:23:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. That might be terminal for you, buddy. Well, if we we might not get there. But if we get there and you do mint, do you need the two and a half sold to mint? I would gladly provide you with that sold as long as you provide me the full rights to said NFT. Will you do that? Yeah. Sold. No no no need for an auction. Everybody else is completely null and void because I am the host. Avi, I will send you the two and a half sold immediately after this show, and we are good to go, my boy. Deal? No problem.
[1:23:41] Bread @_ToastMalone: Let's Yeah. No problem.
[1:23:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. And if you don't and you don't return my soul, I will find you. And... Nah. I... I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Avi's good people. He's tater people. He's tater community. Let's go. Avi, I appreciate you, bro. Oh my god. Give me that, and then give me... Oh, if I can get the Junie one, one to buy, one to... Essentially, to hold, one to sell, and one to trade. Coma, the prophecy exists, bro. It will live. Do you understand, people? Do you understand? Are you not entertained?
[1:24:17] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: The greed, I guess, aligners can't fix.
[1:24:21] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, you you brought up Tom Brady, and that's another crazy story. Homeboy cloned his dog, bro.
[1:24:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, bro, allegedly. Stop it.
[1:24:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah. Okay. So he's a shareholder of a company that, yeah, clones dogs. And?
[1:24:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That allegedly invested... Invest... Or genetically mutated his freaking family dog and also three direwolves completely.
[1:24:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bro, it's, like,
[1:24:45] Bread @_ToastMalone: four zero one k matching, bro. And they're just like, yo, here you go. Here's your cloned dog, like, for being an investor in our company with your old dog's blood. Like, they just... They're crazy. I don't know.
[1:24:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? What is this? Where did we go just now? I went from buying someone's wall chain, like, the rights to an NFT, a wall chain quack has
[1:25:04] Moni @monitalan: Hey.
[1:25:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: Hey. You brought up Tom Brady, and that's a it's a real story that
[1:25:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You did bring up Tom Brady. That is true. We got it.
[1:25:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's all.
[1:25:11] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That that is a that is a story that, that has been circulating. But, again, the company allegedly claimed that they brought back dire wolves from extinction, and there's... It's Yeah. We It's a shit show. Anyways, Google it.
[1:25:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: We we just wolf met us
[1:25:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: from, like...
[1:25:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Remember that one time where that picture was going around? It's like, is that really a a real alien in the coffin that they found and the the the the... It's just like, what?
[1:25:33] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, the goo,
[1:25:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: bro. That shit
[1:25:35] Bread @_ToastMalone: was wild.
[1:25:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was like in, like, a weird, like, doll shaped coffin. It was, like like, in a box. Like, what? What are you guys saying? Wait. Did they clone the dog or not? Yes or
[1:25:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: no?
[1:25:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm against dog cloning now, bro.
[1:25:50] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Bro, they said they said they cloned they cloned the dog. I mean, go ahead and prove them wrong. They said they did, so sure they did it.
[1:25:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's not a full clone. They took some DNA and spliced it in with with dogs, and then it's a hybrid.
[1:26:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, they
[1:26:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: they made a they made a goldendoodle type of
[1:26:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: shit, bro.
[1:26:07] xFactor @xFactorPOL: They got a freaking random ass dog and then they...
[1:26:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: Listen. It's 50% man, 50% bear, 50% pig.
[1:26:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. Exactly. And then they get whatever that
[1:26:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: big dog is. That's As long as it wasn't
[1:26:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: frog DNA.
[1:26:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have no idea what that means either. Metabies, you are a special being. Jurassic car.
[1:26:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Jurassic Park.
[1:26:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Right. Right. Right. Sorry. Wait. It was a frost? Is that what was the the mosquito in the thing? That was a... Anyways, I'm still eight years old. No. Last thing I wanna say is... Don't forget for aligners, there's a meme contest going on. Okay? And you can... It's twenty six days, and there's 26 different winners. Meta Beast is up for one now. Meta Beast, if you wanna pin that up to the top, please feel free. He's up for today's win. So if y'all wanna go vote for your boy, definitely go give him a shout. Hopefully, he gets an additional 26%. Let's go. Metabees, I did wanna congratulate you also. I know you said you saved up your first, like, nice little amount of BTC. So congratulations, bro. Welcome to the fam. We all started someplace, my brother. And, bro, slowly, slowly, bro. Slowly, slowly, you'll go... You'll move one comma and then an... One decimal point and another decimal and another decimal, bro. So keep cooking. You're doing great, bro. And, yeah, I think that... No. No. There was... Oh, Talos Labs. Me and our masked friend over here are gonna be cohosting Talos Labs tomorrow. We got Alora on. We have... Alora Network. We have Sentient on. Mona, you wanna maybe kinda, maybe plug this one, that that we'll be doing tomorrow with Alice?
[1:27:44] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. I'm super excited. It's it's the launch of their series, what's next for AI agents. It should be a great conversation. Join us. I'll be the first one we do with them and hopefully not the last one.
[1:27:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why she say you like that?
[1:27:58] Kkoma @itskkoma: Can we ask her about our debate a couple days ago or no? Is that, like, off limits?
[1:28:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: If I'm host?
[1:28:03] Moni @monitalan: I think... Oh, no. That's a separate conversation. Conversation.
[1:28:06] Kkoma @itskkoma: Alright. Well, I'm the... I'm a... I I need to make sure. So... Yeah.
[1:28:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, Monica, on Friday, we have that aligners in Espanol space.
[1:28:14] Moni @monitalan: Yes. It's gonna be our weekly aligners in Espanol every Friday.
[1:28:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Dave, I assume it's the energy drink one. Is that correct? I've I've done three.
[1:28:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Yeah.
[1:28:25] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Thank you.
[1:28:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:28:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's up top. That's up top. A boat would be awesome. Thank you, everyone.
[1:28:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Guys, go vote for your boy.
[1:28:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: I know I know... Okay. Okay. Okay. No. I I see it now. So so do we vote on this? Meta Beast, is that is that how it works? Meta Beast?
[1:28:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. You vote on it.
[1:28:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That... Yeah. That's what it sounds like. I I I take it
[1:28:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Metabees, I want you to post the voting poll that Roger put up, not just
[1:28:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, okay. Okay. I haven't... Because I hadn't seen it either. Yeah. I'll go get that then too.
[1:28:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Please.
[1:28:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But they picked four that they like. He picks four that he liked, and then I guess we... The community votes for the winner.
[1:29:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Every day, and you can win multiple times. Okay? Multiple times. It doesn't just be, like, once you win once, and then that's it. Done and done. So go out, create
[1:29:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But it needs to be your your unique original
[1:29:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. One. It does.
[1:29:15] Moni @monitalan: And Tell us which one in the poll is yours because I don't think it includes
[1:29:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's gonna be the energy... It's an energy drink one. I... And which is posted up to the top as well. So the one that you're voting on is the one I posted up top, and I'll go get the voting poll now.
[1:29:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: So to clarify on the meme corn Let's go vote it. Meme corn contest. It's it's... They'll they'll be picking a winner every day for twenty six days. However, just because you won one doesn't mean that you don't qualify. Like, you can win multiple rounds. They're doing this for twenty six days, which is beautiful. And they're... And it's a 2626% allocation. So if you win or if you win three times, how much is that? That's over 70... Almost 80%. Right? Yeah. So it's a lot. It's really worth it, guys. It's really worth it. And and, Meta Beast, that that was great. I I saw your energy your energy drink post, and I was like, oh my god. This is beautiful. And thank you for the image of Wonder Woman. I saved it. I really liked it.
[1:30:08] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Did you guys see the ATC Hall Of Justice?
[1:30:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: I did. I did. I love that one too.
[1:30:14] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That's the great one, my release. Big fan of your work,
[1:30:17] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: sir. Damn.
[1:30:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: I really need to clean up my
[1:30:18] The First Aligner @First_Aligner: new line.
[1:30:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: See? See? I truly the the compliments from you guys mean way more to me than any freaking score. I don't even
[1:30:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: know what. And then you know what? You know what's huge for me with aligners? That's why, you know, that's one of the projects that I really, really do like is the fact that even though Dave thinks thinks my post are shit, Roger actually is very supportive. He is very supportive, and I love that. And MB is also very supportive. Like, she hits me up in the DMs, I I I made a post today, and she got... She reposted it and all the... So thank you, guys. It's out of my wheelhouse like Landy, but I'm I'm... You know what? I like doing the the Wonder Woman portion of it, and for me, that part is is is nice. Even though they
[1:31:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: say the sentence. No.
[1:31:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm I'm only finding one poll, and my name is not on
[1:31:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: it. I'm gonna put that in in a t shirt. I think it would be... I'm gonna put Dave
[1:31:10] Voice N: in my...
[1:31:10] Moni @monitalan: That may be tomorrow.
[1:31:12] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. And that that --... Tomorrow. Wonder Woman I did, I told it to give me a smooth blend of Linda Linda and Gal.
[1:31:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's why it came out so nice. Great job. And I'm I'm making the T shirt as we speak, Dave. Can I believe And
[1:31:31] Moni @monitalan: you know and you know Linda is Latina?
[1:31:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Listen. Linda. Listen. Linda. Listen. Listen. Linda. Nat Nat's posts are not shit. Okay? I just said that they were struggling, meaning, like, she was struggling. I heard her struggling. So maybe there was a little miss... A bit of a misunderstanding. But at the end of the day, I apologize to absolutely nobody. Avi, thank you so much for your wall chain offer. I will take you up on it. Cool, Nat. Appreciate you. Tommy, Landy, Monica, Brad, Samara, MetaBeast, great stuff. X Factor, Metavision, you know, everybody else that came to tune in, I appreciate y'all for real. And MetaBeast because Nat's poster shit. Please take us out.
[1:32:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Let's go fucking.
[1:32:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Go. Oh my. No. You did it, babe. No. You