🎙️All Things Crypto- Men are too feminine 😫 in 2026

# 🎙️All Things Crypto- Men are too feminine 😫 in 2026 | 2026-01-06 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1OdJrOWbZpzxX | status: approved
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[0:00:26] Voice O: Markets move fast, we're the ones in power. Mic, lab, charge, lit, they set the pay. Every take a gym, every call a check. We don't follow trends. We... Why create momentum from credit, fight, and chain fight. We've been a system. They talk TV. We talk tokens and truth. We don't miss the web. We are built up booth.
[0:00:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: We don't chase coins. We chase conviction.
[0:00:47] Voice O: What up, Sinemi? Lave it. My love.
[0:01:08] Voice O: Flex on charts gains like deja vu. Discipline drive, be the balance of both. Body and bags, man's built on growth. Nat Nat. The track I wonder woman Eric, please. What up, baby?
[0:01:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Rentals to be humming
[0:01:20] Voice O: Marnie, what's up? X factor.
[0:02:40] Voice O: The blue head vision's in the house. Let's fucking go. Card not. Your back. This is all things crypto.
[0:02:49] Shaksi @shaksi: Where legends appear.
[0:02:51] Voice O: Let's go.
[0:03:13] Voice O: What's up, mofos?
[0:03:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't say
[0:03:17] Voice O: it that. What's up, everybody?
[0:03:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I hope everybody's doing good. Welcome to ATC, all things crypto. You guys know the deal. Happy Tuesday. Man, it's a good day. It's a good day. Today's a good day to be... To have a good day. I don't know. I'm feeling great today. Things are good. Meetings I had this morning went well. Tuesdays are my days on on Sora, so I created a bunch of absolutely ridiculous videos. But, of course, I also forgot to set the ATC space until, like, a half hour before. So here we are. It is what it is. We had an amazing cyberspace this morning. There was crashouts galore. It was incredible. Amazing stuff. You guys should have absolutely been there. My god. XDRAC is so lucky that I love him. Otherwise, I'd be literally fucking, like, clipping all of it and putting it everywhere and just clowning those dudes, but it is what it is. I will fully support what Koma just put in the chat as well, making a prediction market bot that does every... That makes every call the complete opposite of what, x factor is calling, out here on the timeline, which I think could be really profitable, comma, so I'm kinda with that. I'm a 100% with that actually now that I think about it. I think it's a genius idea.
[0:04:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Never fade x factor.
[0:04:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna pin that to the top just so everybody can retweet that and we we can get that out there for sure. But what's good, guys? Hope everybody's well. Cool. Nat, what's up? How we doing?
[0:04:40] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Wow. Crickets?
[0:04:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crickets? You know what it is? It's... That's a bad... You know what? No. No. That's on me. That's a bad host move. You know what I'm saying? It's a bad host move because when I say cool and Nat, they don't know who goes first. Right? And I I kinda do that on purpose sometimes where I'm just like, let's see who kinda... Like, let... Let's play a little roulette. But look cool might be kinda rugged, which would kinda make sense if he's going back. But, Natalie, what's up? How are you?
[0:05:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm doing great, David. And you know you know one thing that that I do like? I love... Absolutely love learning new things, and I learned something new today, guys. So in case you guys didn't know, apparently, Dave is Italian. I I thought there was something else, but apparently, he's Italian. So that that was very interesting to to learn today.
[0:05:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: That is whatever man slander. Okay? These people have no idea about New York pizza. I had to fucking listen to fucking Chillpill tell me about fucking carbonara in fucking Spain this entire fucking time. Okay? What do you want me to tell you? Bro, you're trying to tell me that because the fucking pizza in New York is because of the water?
[0:05:40] Voice M: Yes, Chill Pill.
[0:05:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: It is. Yes. Because of the water. I...
[0:05:43] Voice O: It is because of the water.
[0:05:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: The is the burger pizza.
[0:05:48] Voice M: When you done it yesterday, like, you absolutely nailed it. And then, like, even when... Do know when he passes the mic? He went, Nat Nat, what's up? Like, bro, it was so perfect, bro. Honestly.
[0:05:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: He does this a lot. Listen. You guys curse a lot a lot. Like, a whole month.
[0:06:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know.
[0:06:07] Kkoma @itskkoma: That's how you know we're good in this space, Net Net, because, you know, with with no rules, we just go crazy. Or Dave goes crazy.
[0:06:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Very good point. That's that's a good point. Yeah. You can unleash me. I try and be, like... You know? But, also, like, I was on... I I closed at the wall chain space. Like, you know, they also... Let me be me sometimes. You know? Let me be me. But I get it. Nat, just so you know, I do get it from MA all the time. They say, literally, it's like, Dave, you need to stop cursing like a sailor, and I think you'll see more money. And there is definitely something to that. So I will absolutely 100 percent give Emme her props for that, and you as well, Natalie, for finding me every single day as often as possible. So...
[0:06:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: But you know what, David? You're not you're not as you're not as bad. You know, I I I I... That came to this realization when I was on the space earlier.
[0:06:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, thanks. I mean, it's thanks to you, obviously, like, that I try and keep as much in check as possible because if La Policia wasn't behind me, then, you know, I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't know nothing. Yeah. But here we are. Cool. What's good, bro? How are the leverage trenches treating you, my brother?
[0:07:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. Good. Good. Good, man. Just happy happy Tuesday, man, to all all of you amazing people. Let's go. Ready for sure. Let's do it. Let's go.
[0:07:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. I love it. I love it. Guys, S and P is up. Saw S and P new highs. We're almost hitting 7,000 on the S and P, which is kinda nuts, but let me just say what's up there. But Samara, it's good to see you, bro. Love seeing the blue haired ninja in the space. What's good, my brother? Welcome. How are you? Happy New Year, man.
[0:07:33] Samara @thee_samara: Hey. Happy New Year, Dave. Jam jam, Dave. Jam cool, Jam Nat Nat, coma, bread, x factor. Shout out to you guys. Yeah, man. I'm just... I'm still at my parents' place, so I haven't gone home yet. So my schedule is just all over the place, like, for real for real. So, yeah, I travel back home next week, so I should be stable again. I'll be active again. So, yeah, shout out to you guys, man. It's just been crazy. It's been crazy. The festivities are just taking over my time. But, yeah, hopefully, we get back, you know, in tune with everything. But I've been clicking some things at the back end, you know, just, you know, still still not priced with every... Still not... Whatever they call that appraisal price. I'm just active. I'm still active, but not as active as I used to be. But next week, everything goes crazy again. Money to be made out here, guys. So don't fade. Don't fade. So, yeah, Jen Jen, guys. Happy New Year.
[0:08:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Happy New Year, buddy. How many kids are getting into? What's going on over
[0:08:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: there? Exactly. Like... And is your girlfriend with you also that we would like to know?
[0:08:28] Samara @thee_samara: No. No. No. She's back. She's back. She's she's not here. I'm with, like, 23 family members right now. Like, a couple of them leave for their respective destinations, wherever they they came from. Like, I think 10 of them leave this week, and next week, everyone just go their separate ways.
[0:08:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I remember my first excuse to my girl. Yeah. I'm with 23 family members for sure.
[0:08:49] Voice J: They're not gonna be women. It's crazy.
[0:08:53] Samara @thee_samara: No. No. For real, bro. I've been here since, like, you know, before Christmas. So it's just... Family's annoying, but we love them. Okay.
[0:09:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Baby. Baby. Baby. Baby. Baby. Listen.
[0:09:03] Voice I: You don't have to explain yourself to us for minute. Okay?
[0:09:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I I I We believe you, brother. It's good. Do your thing, 21.
[0:09:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait. I I kinda wanna hear. Dave Dave, go ahead. Go ahead. The floor is yours.
[0:09:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was saying, baby, baby, we just came back from The Seychelles. Okay? We just came back from Tahiti. Alright? So I I gotta go spend some time with family.
[0:09:22] Voice M: Are you sure you're spend some time with family? Yes, baby. Of course, I'm
[0:09:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: What else
[0:09:26] xFactor @xFactorPOL: would I be doing?
[0:09:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You know... What do mean?
[0:09:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: You you can tell she's not laughing now because of that thing. I was like, you're gonna spend some time with your family? Okay. You're thumbing. Me too. Let's go.
[0:09:36] Samara @thee_samara: Yep. She's funny. She's like like she's
[0:09:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: spending time
[0:09:40] xFactor @xFactorPOL: with her family. That's how I got caught on my shit.
[0:09:42] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. She's spending her time with her family too, so it's it's just cool. It's cool.
[0:09:46] Voice G: Oh, no.
[0:09:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, god. Samari. So this is happening both ways. Interesting.
[0:09:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: And look. So it's that
[0:09:57] xFactor @xFactorPOL: type of relationship. Alright, bro. Alright.
[0:10:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. At the end of... Listen. At the end of the day, you guys remember my boy with proposition, then they turned it down. So I don't know. Listen. I think at the end of the day, like, more love for everybody, bro.
[0:10:11] Voice O: You might as well do it together. You know what I'm saying?
[0:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: You might as well do it together. I'm not saying anything else, but it is what it is. Thank you, x factor. I can always count it x factor. Come on. What's good, my bro?
[0:10:21] Voice I: Nothing much, man. Yeah. Just... I got kinda cooked yesterday on hockey, and, I decided that I was gonna try to do some tennis, aka tennis. I put some predictions in. I was like, hey. These look kinda good. I'll go to sleep. Woke up. Lost all of them. So, yeah, I got kinda kinda wrecked on a decent size. But, you know, AFCON always comes to save the day, like X Factor would say. So, yeah, you know, African soccer is always a
[0:10:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I would never say this. I would never say that.
[0:10:51] Kkoma @itskkoma: He always gives me crap. But you know what? Afcon is actually very profitable, and a lot of people watch it, x factor, so stop making fun of them. And, yeah, it was pretty good. And then this morning, I, got a decent airdrop from Brevis, about nothing crazy or anything. But, yes, the info five, meta is still alive. It may not be as, like like, crazy, you know, like, airdrops, like, five to 10 k or anything like that. But, you know, you just put in the work, and it's good, and you'll get a nice little stimmy. So, yeah, I can't complain. Yeah. Overall, just doing... I need to get back into Amplify stuff, but I think, not gonna lie, like, predictions has taken a lot of my time. And I... I've been also trying to build this app, this, like... Kinda like this app that's on top of Polymarket, so hoping I could actually do that. But it's kinda hard. Like, the the the marketing is kinda hard, Dave. Uh-huh. So, you know, if you wanna help with that
[0:11:45] Voice M: Bro, it's
[0:11:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: it's 40...
[0:11:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't ask for much. Just 49 percent. You know what I'm saying? We were supposed to be partners initially. 49... You build it. I push it, bro. That's how this whole shit work. What do you mean? That's how this works, bro. Like, people don't realize you could build the best damn product in the world, but if nobody knows you exist, my boy... Hedera. If nobody knows you exist, then at
[0:12:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the end of the day...
[0:12:04] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yo. There is no way Hedera just caught us straight, bro. We're, like, literally twelve minutes into the show.
[0:12:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Right. Okay. But we're Okay.
[0:12:12] Voice I: Well first...
[0:12:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hold on. Hold on.
[0:12:13] Kkoma @itskkoma: If you're using Hedera as an example, Dave... Sorry. Sorry, Nat Nat. I don't know if I really want this partnership because I don't know what that Hedera... Haberah Hedera is.
[0:12:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: So That was the point. That was the point, Cola.
[0:12:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: First of all, you guys are sadly mistaken. First of all, we just partnered up with a whole West Virginia.
[0:12:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Okay? You you got her tripping so hard. She's rugging me.
[0:12:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Am I rugging? Am Am I really rugging you?
[0:12:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're not. He is. Absolutely not. Get on Miami Internet. Get out of here.
[0:12:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Bro, can we talk about that for a second? I mean, the the deep...
[0:12:44] Voice O: Bro, all day you've
[0:12:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: been rugging us.
[0:12:46] xFactor @xFactorPOL: The deep state of panic. I I don't know what the hell is wrong with Comcast. I I I I I I was going home from work and there was a Comcast truck, like, fiddling around. So that... I don't know if I like it, but not cool. That's... My my shit could go out any second, guys. But, anyways, the deep panic of having something to do or, like, your space, literally, I wake up 06:30 in the morning. Everything's fine. I was like, bro, this is great. Plenty of time. Let me go make my cafecito, blah blah blah. Turn on my computer to put my notes on, get ready for the space. Nothing's working. TV doesn't work. No Internet because I have YouTube TV. I was like, I'm gonna die. This is this is terrible. Like, the the panic that sets in is crazy.
[0:13:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stress is real, bro. This stress is real. I'm telling you. Y'all think this is a joke. You guys... You've woken to my life over the summertime.
[0:13:29] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Totally true.
[0:13:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[0:13:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mike, look. You guys remember in the summertime when they were like, oh, Dave must be in the basement. He's in Jersey at the beach house. Like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I I make no qualms about it. It is what it is, but I totally understand the panic setting it is.
[0:13:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wait. How'd you do that? Did you how Yeah.
[0:13:44] xFactor @xFactorPOL: How'd you fake rug? That was very impressive.
[0:13:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't... I mean, that is an art form, by the way, which I have mastered. I will say that. It is what it is, but whatever. It's fine. But... Yeah. That's for another time. Anyways, Brad, what's good?
[0:14:00] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo, GM gang. Just, another day here fighting robots and, you know, dialing things in here. I have to do it. I gotta go to my storage unit today and, like, I... Like, that thing is so not organized, and I gotta go find something. Well, it's like,
[0:14:20] Voice J: oh, yeah. Maybe it's in storage.
[0:14:21] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm like, oh, no. Maybe it is in storage. And, like, I have no idea. So about to about to embark on that mission here shortly, but I figured I'd take all you guys along with me.
[0:14:34] Voice J: Yeah. Talk about the fear setting in.
[0:14:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exact... Exactly. You you know what I think of when I hear storage? I hear... Think of storage wars. You know, those guys that are,
[0:14:43] Voice G: like, online and they're looking
[0:14:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: There was a a whole show about it. It was so interesting. Like, you would never know what they would buy in front of awesome. It was.
[0:14:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, they look at... Like, they see, like, a certain case, they're like, look at that case in the in the way back over there. Think we're gonna bid, like, 3, like, $3,000. And then they open up a case, and it's literally, like, a, like, freaking... A a wooden freaking donkey or some, like, ridiculous, like, stupid, like, you know, like, family or
[0:15:07] Bread @_ToastMalone: bunch rat turds is all it's gonna be in there.
[0:15:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Around January time, it might just be tomorrow with 23 women, and they're like, oh my god.
[0:15:14] Voice O: Hey. Yo.
[0:15:16] Voice J: Yo. Yo. Yo.
[0:15:26] Voice O: Yo. What's up? What's up? GM g... Well,
[0:15:29] Voice J: Yo. I guess not GM. It's the end of the day for me, bro. I'm I'm winding down. I've been I've been doing housework and and banging and slamming on things. I didn't break any of my fingers today, so I'm glad for that. Working on trying to find some new sponsors and stuff. You know how it is.
[0:15:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. Appreciate you being so lenient on us this morning for completely spacing out. You guys need to follow Hatsu. Make sure that you go to outsider trading. One thing I love about Hatsu, honestly, one thing I appreciate the hell out of you about is you are about the time. Right? It's like, we can't go against the the formula. Like, from the beginning, you were always the same. And it's just like, sorry, guys. Like, you might have showed up late, but this is this
[0:16:06] Voice I: is this is this is the this is
[0:16:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: the program right here. So shout out to you, bro. For real. For real. For real. But... Yeah. Guys, also, we can g 26 it. Listen. We haven't talked about aligners in a minute. I know how some of us feel, but tomorrow is the IWO. I was
[0:16:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: just about to ask you about that. How do we feel? How do you feel?
[0:16:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: I feel... Look. I feel like there's gonna be a big portion of the community that's taking part, but, it's definitely not $3,500,000 worth, of the community that's gonna take part. But I guess we will see. You know? Like, I I mean, look. Like, we put in a lot of work into this. Obviously, like, guys know I put in a lot a lot of work into this, and and I have no ill will towards any of it. I want to see it succeed genuinely. Obviously, I wanna get fucking... I wanna get paid, but I also wanna see the community efforts really get rewarded too. You know what I'm saying? So I have no idea what... What's gonna happen tomorrow, Nat. Gex and I are gonna be hosting the assembly. That's when the IWO is gonna go live. So we'll see. You know? It's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to say the least. You know what I'm saying?
[0:17:03] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: So Did you see that Space just raised 10,000,000?
[0:17:08] Samara @thee_samara: From who?
[0:17:10] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Their public sales.
[0:17:11] Shaksi @shaksi: Yo. Space
[0:17:12] Voice J: is 400% oversubscribed, dog.
[0:17:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. But from who?
[0:17:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And they're 100% from What's their... What... Themselves. Come on.
[0:17:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: What do you mean themselves? Hold on. We're more context here. It's like it's like Don't you dare. Stop it. That's a weird story.
[0:17:30] Voice I: You like to believe that you like to believe that, x factor, that people don't actually bid on themselves? Like, Logan Paul gonna be bidding on his own cards?
[0:17:38] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. I'm sorry. That's not that's not what I was... I'm... I I was talking about what launch pad are they using for their raise. Yeah. There's 100%, you know, incentive for people to put money into their own raise.
[0:17:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. That's my point.
[0:17:52] Voice M: Bonnie, what do you know?
[0:17:53] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, but but but they're they're on a launch pad. Right? It's not their own... Or they they do the raise on their own.
[0:17:58] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: This isn't their TGE. This is I'm asking. This is their public sale. Prior to the TGE, this is for the community. $10,000,000. Their TGE is later.
[0:18:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: I see. Gotcha.
[0:18:10] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I mean, seriously.
[0:18:13] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Cool. That's awesome. That's very bullish. That's great news for aligners and any other project that's coming TGE soon. That's really good.
[0:18:18] Voice I: Why is Hercules laughing?
[0:18:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: She's got the giggles, bro.
[0:18:24] Voice M: Uh-huh. I just found something humorous.
[0:18:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, I don't think it's impossible that aligners can raise over 3,000,000 on the I... With the IWO. I mean, it's crypto. Anything can happen.
[0:18:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys, do me a favor. I I I need you guys... Yeah. Just just cover for me. I I need, like, maybe, like, fifteen, twenty minutes. So... Yeah. Shoot. Nat, cool. Show's yours.
[0:18:49] Voice J: The tech is there, and I mean, there's definitely money out there. So it it exists. It's it's possible for sure. Well... What?
[0:19:01] Voice M: So sorry, Hatsu. Sorry. Go ahead, mate.
[0:19:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Go ahead.
[0:19:03] Voice M: Go. No. I was just gonna I was just gonna ask Do it. I was just gonna ask, like, do do you think that that raise would mostly be retail money, really? Or do you think that the fact that they've chosen to, you know, work on base with base that they would have some, you know, financial support to say the least going on in the background there that's gonna help this raise and help the TG with it being backed to a certain extent already by people on base. Does anyone have that angle? Is it really a reliance on retail money, or is it strings being pulled at the background that may have already been pulled to to make sure that this goes to plan?
[0:19:41] Voice J: Define retail money.
[0:19:44] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Alright. Hold on a minute.
[0:19:45] Voice J: Hold on a second.
[0:19:46] xFactor @xFactorPOL: This could go this could go any which sort of way here. Right? So any raise that is gonna have some motion to have retail come in and follow is probably gonna already have some pre commitments by big players to make it look attractive. Right? Whether, like, Como was speculating or saying it might be the team or somebody behind the team or some early backers. But if you just lock something and there's no pre commitments, nobody's gonna buy that shit because people have FOMO. And if they don't see that thing moving in the right direction, they're not gonna buy it. So I'm just gonna throw that out there.
[0:20:18] Voice J: Yeah. For sure. I mean, that's like trying to launch your own meme coin without having, you know, $10,000 to slowly pushing it yourself so that people think other people are paying attention to your meme coin that nobody really cares about.
[0:20:29] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Oh, so that's...
[0:20:29] Voice J: Oh, definitely. No....
[0:20:30] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Mine.
[0:20:31] Voice J: I'm just a cat. I'm just a cat. I don't know nothing.
[0:20:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Go ahead, Marni. What were you saying?
[0:20:38] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I said, oh, so that's what happened with my meme coin.
[0:20:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Mine too. All of our...
[0:20:44] Voice J: Yeah. For sure.
[0:20:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's funny. Cool. What do you what do you think? Are you there with us, or did you rug?
[0:20:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, he rugs. He's probably not there. Alright. Speed Racer, How
[0:20:57] Voice J: are you?... Like running two spaces at once.
[0:20:59] Voice I: Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Mean, I'm not gonna be...
[0:21:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: I I just stepped up for a second.
[0:21:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No.
[0:21:05] Voice J: Cool's doing two spaces.
[0:21:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. What what what... What's the question?
[0:21:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So we were talking about the Aligners I... IWO, which tomorrow, Dave mentioned that he's going to be hosting the Aligners Assembly Space with, miss Gekko tomorrow morning.
[0:21:21] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: And I got the after party with the women in info fire at 11:30 mountain...
[0:21:27] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Is that free is that free drinks?
[0:21:29] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: After party, 10:30, girls and guys hanging out. You know?
[0:21:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna
[0:21:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: yeah. So I'm not... It's not... It should
[0:21:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: be bullish.
[0:21:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, just
[0:21:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: the hype the hype did die down, though. The hype for Aligners, it go down a lot. Maybe because of, you know, just even if I kinda got quiet, but I'm excited, man. We've been on Aligners for a long time, man. So I'm excited for for a family, you know, to come to this. So, hopefully, we all we all do well on the... On this. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it.
[0:22:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Now, Ku, I did see you posting about Zybird yesterday. I thought that was awesome. That was so beautiful. I don't know if you noticed, but... And this is for everyone that's listening. Right? So on Zyber, if you scroll to, like, the middle of the page, there is this... It's like a a fortune wheel where you get to, like, spin it and you you earn rewards. My luck has been so bad that lately, I've been getting, like, nothing. Literally, there's a spot that says nothing, and that's just where I've been rolling to the back to back. I'm not sure if you tried if you tried the wheel yet. Cool.
[0:22:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. I I I started yesterday. I I just... You know, I got the NFC already. I staked it yesterday. You know? But, yeah, no. I... I'm kinda mad that I didn't start this earlier. Oh, my brain, I I guess I I was overwhelmed. So I'm changing my strategy for 2026. I'm keeping it very, very small, very smart. I'll do my trading. I'm doing wall chain only, and I'm doing Zlifer, and that's it. Nothing else. But as I I finally jumped on zlifer. Me translate. What blew my mind, you mean? It was pretty cool, though, was the the... This is Lumina, the AI Lumina. Right? On YouTube.
[0:23:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It's Lumina.
[0:23:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: Jamming, man. I was loving that. I was just... It was like the music was so... You know, it was so dense. I was just... I was trading, spent time with kids, you know, enjoying the vibe, man, from from the AI. The AI... He was just talking, you know, give me updates for the day, play music. I was like, yo. This is pretty cool. So... Yeah. No. No. I'm really so excited. I just I just... It took me a while to jump on it, man. I'm I'm all in now. Because once I start, I can't stop. So, yeah, definitely excited for what they they they are for for the future. And I'm hoping I'm hoping... You know, I think did mention some kind of trading bot or something coming to to to cyber, and that's what I'm waiting for. Because trading for me, I... I'm I'm learning still. I was probably really going crazy, but, man, I am realizing if you are patient enough to learn this stuff, you can make a lot of money, man. And it's just... I'm just trying to... But the problem is because I'm so busy, I can't make that many trades per day. And I'm like, yo, I would love to use some kind of trading bot or something that just helps me do multiple trades per day and just cash out at the end. I'm hoping we get us something from X Factor hopefully soon.
[0:24:19] Voice I: Yes. Speaking of a bot
[0:24:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So we're gonna let them know.
[0:24:22] Kkoma @itskkoma: Sorry. Speaking of bot, you know, I proposed this idea where we basically read X Factor's tweets or predictions that he posts publicly, and then we'll have this bot just do the opposite of whatever he decides. And, yeah, not only did other people like it, but, you know, the founder also liked it. He said it's a great idea.
[0:24:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So you know what? They... It it was it was dropped in our dev chat too, and everybody had a great laugh. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's some sort of a troll material Inkjet's bot. But it's... Honestly, I wouldn't I wouldn't fade my predictions, Coma. Alright? My history is pretty solid, but you guys do whatever you want. That's...
[0:24:55] Voice M: Is there is there a Coma bot yet? Because, of course, hey...
[0:24:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. The Coma the Coma bot is is 90% exposed.
[0:25:02] Voice M: The BTP both Someone sounded very confident after that three nil Senegal win today. So, like, may may may... Maybe it might be a thing about Como bot. I'm very interested.
[0:25:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's possible. But, hey, just to to Cool's points, by the way, there's... There are two bots that were... Or agents that were back testing, and they've had some really, really good success. And one of them just might happen to have a certain logic of some people that you might know that are not here in this space because they're probably flying around the country or whatever the case may be. But it's executing strategies according to whatever they they follow, and it's not like predictions related. It's... Well, it is, but it's not necessarily sports related. You know what I'm saying? So just keep that in mind. That's all I'm gonna say in regards to that. When the bot name comes out, you will know what I'm talking about. But but, yeah, there's that.
[0:25:53] Kkoma @itskkoma: X factor, I think... Joking aside, I think this is definitely possible, right, where what... Whether it's fading or following, you just put some type of, like
[0:26:02] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's already happened.
[0:26:02] Kkoma @itskkoma: Disclaimer or whatever. Right? Like, hey. You know, doc... Doc market, follow this or something, then boom. So
[0:26:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yep. So so it's so it's already it's already happened. Brett's laughing over there. I'm putting hearts off.
[0:26:14] Kkoma @itskkoma: You know what your problem is, Spector? It's it's like, you're saying all this is happening, but we haven't seen anything. So we just like to speculate. Let us speculate. Let us have fun with it. You know? Let us just let us just be like, oh, this would be a good idea. And then when you when you say
[0:26:26] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It would be it would be it would be a great idea. Exactly. Boom. Something that somebody should really build.
[0:26:31] Voice I: Yeah. Or be building.
[0:26:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do do we have a live date for dark markets yet?
[0:26:38] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So the graphic team came back and said that they're... They're like the the front end visuals for, like, the the early landing page should be ready here in the next couple of days. So hopefully by this weekend, we'll have something live where you guys can join a wait list to kinda slowly get access into the platform, and you'll be seeing some showcases and some things happening in the meantime as well.
[0:26:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's...
[0:27:00] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So soon. Extremely soon. And by the way, back to Lumira, that that stuff makes me so happy. Right? Because it's like... She's literally like our whole, like, life... Lifeline of our ecosystem. There were some cool proposals and design by our our team today. We'll we'll put her, like, for example, with with the projects within our ecosystem. So, like, we're gonna have her on a scene that she's trading on dock markets, but she'll have, like, connectivity to dock markets as well, which could potentially mean that Lumeric could potentially be trading on dock markets while the feed is going on live on YouTube. The stuff that we're working in our road map is pretty freaking cool. I mean, just from a concept perspective, it's it's it's pretty pretty damn dope.
[0:27:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: It is. And I really like that the the brain is... He's also writing amazing articles with regards to everything that's going on. And I think that also adds little layer of trust because through his writing in in his articles, we also get to know how he thinks and what he thinks about the current landscape in crypto. I find it, like, very, very interesting. I know Dave is also a fan of of some of the articles, but I think it's pretty cool. We... That space this morning was actually pretty dope. Even though it did get a little bit interesting and we got off the cyber rails for a little bit.
[0:28:13] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, yeah. Some of some of my friends are gonna be joining us shortly, so we'll see how that goes in a little bit.
[0:28:18] Voice G: Oh, no.
[0:28:19] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Which one? Wait wait wait till wait till we announce that the brain is actually our first model before Lumira, and he's actually just a very, very sharp intelligent AI agent that's building this whole damn thing. Wouldn't that be crazy? No. Crazy Xyle.
[0:28:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: That would be crazy, but you know what? It's crypto. It's 2026. Like I said earlier, I wouldn't rule anything out, and every... Literally everything is possible. So I think that would be very interesting. And with regards to the actual campaign, x factor, because I know there were a lot of people that were commenting beneath. I believe it was cools post with regards to, you know, how do they get in and what the reward is going to be. So if you don't mind just, letting letting us know what the airdrop's gonna be like. Is it, like, the first 200, I think?
[0:29:02] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. So, the campaign ends, in February. So last day of February 28, twenty ninth. I don't know how many days February has, but that's weird. That's the third time that I've been told is in coma. I didn't get back to you now that I remember on the actual campaign rewards. So, yeah, let me pull that up really quick, and I'll let you guys get... I guess, I'm off on it. It should be on the on the Zeke website, but I guess it's not. So one second here. Got you guys. So it's 250 k USD, rewards and the price structure. Scrolling. Scrolling. Standby. Where is it? Give me a second. Here we go. Alright. So first place, 8% of the price pool. First place gets 20 racks. Second place, fifth place, 12,500. Fourth through fifth place get 12,500 each. Sixth through tenth place get $7,500 each. Eleventh to twentieth place get 3,500. Twenty first through fiftieth get $12.50. 51 to a 100, $600 each, and 101 to 250 get a $150 each. So there you go. Voila. We'll make a post about that as well on the... On our official page just for clarity, but there you go.
[0:30:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's actually pretty cool. Thank you so much for sharing that. And I believe... Let me see. I believe it was doctor Wapi that had a few questions, but he's not here now. I guess once he's back in the space, I'll bring him up just in case he has any more questions for you. But I think that's actually pretty generous. I think that it's... What you guys are doing is great. Go ahead.
[0:30:33] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I mean, it's a massive it's a massive reward pool. Right? It's it's definitely the biggest on Zeet, and I think it reflects it based on the campaign's performance. But, like, everybody's gonna get rewarded and the top 20 create... That's a significant chunk of change, right, for an... And, like, a... For an airdrop. I mean, it's it's some pretty good money there. So I think it's it's not tooting our own horn or anything, but, as an as an info fact creator myself, it's one of the most generous campaigns that I've seen in in a bit.
[0:30:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. It definitely is. Alright, guys. So I guess I wanted I wanted to take the moment because I know Kul touched on on on trading, and I kinda just wanted to to touch base. Kul, how's your trading going? Are you in a current position?
[0:31:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did we lose them?
[0:31:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. I could check right now. I I think... So what what what I've been doing is I'm just... I've been testing. Because I know people hate trading and people don't have the patience. So that's why I'm, you know, doing this video that every day, which is just trying to show people you don't need to have, like, experience with this stuff. You just need to practice. I I I mean, I'm pointing people to start with a small dollar value and just keep practicing, figure out which indicators work for you. Trading views, they're absolute gift for for people. Right now, I'm... I have three trades going on. I'm using the the daily time frame, so I have three three trades on right now. But I'm testing different things because I need to build confidence, and I think that's what I'm to do my videos. But, yeah, three three three trades on right now. Five x five x five x in in three different places, but just just leaving it and kinda see what happens. But, yeah, just just trying different things, man. But it's it's... I've been profitable. At the same time, I've lost some money too, which is is a good thing because I wanna lose money because that also makes me... It builds confidence in a weird way because you don't wanna think this stuff is easy. It is not... A trade is not easy at all, but I think it's your patience. Patience helps big time. That... That's one of the biggest things I've learned with with trading is I've sold early sometimes, taking profits, and the market is wrong. Or when I short, it go... The the market goes, you know, against me. When I go long, it go... The market goes goes short. So it's just learning indicators, and I think I found a couple of things that works, but it is not easy. It does take a lot of time to get ahold of this stuff. But I do believe that if you could do it right and you're pacing, you could make a lot of money for this. I mean, you know, like I said before, a lot of people that live overseas, especially, and they don't have the US dollar back on them. You could make a $100, $2,300, $400 per day. That's a lot of money, man, overall if you if you think about it. Right? So I think if you if you just... It's the patience that I'm just trying to build, and I think I found the strategy. I'm using this, this trading box, on trading view. It's not automatic, though. I'm kinda, it it... It's it's a buy sell signal. Kinda tells you when to buy, when to sell, when to take profits. I'm using that as a... As my entry and exits. And even then, it's still... It's not a 100%. Right? I think it's like a it's like a 60, 70 win rates on that... On on the on the on the the the the TradingView bots. But, yo, it's a whole different community on TradingView because you go on TradingView, and there's, like, thousands of indicators. Thousands. And you could, you know, you could search them by by trending, by the top ones. It's it's a lot of stuff that I... I'm I'm interested in this topic because new. I like to learn something new. So I think it's it's... You know, I've been posting about this stuff. I do I do videos, training every day, every seven seven days a week now to show people, especially newbie. Just showing people, you know, look. You could make money from this stuff if you do it the right way. But, yeah, it's not easy, though, but definitely could be definite lucrative if you have the patience.
[0:34:39] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: How long have you been doing it, Cole?
[0:34:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. So I I aggressively aggressively started trading. It's been about almost two months now. Two months almost two months now, and every single day, I'm I'm I'm experimenting 50 x, 100 x, two x, five k, 10 k. So $50, $10. I'm trying to figure out which one works for me. Trading different time frames. And what I realized is I think... Because I'm so busy, I don't have the luxury to sit at my computer all day long. So I think trading the longer time frames might be a better option for me because then I don't have to step... Stare at the computer every day. Because, for example, now after three three trades going, and if it does play out, I'm gonna make a good amount of money, but it it takes a while. If you're trading on a daily time frame, you're talking about possibly taking your profits in seven days or possibly two weeks or three weeks, possibly. But that's less risky because you're not you're not staying at a sharp... But what what I've seen for me is I've traded the one minute and the five minutes. Oh, boy. That is a whole other ball game because you're
[0:35:53] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: what I trade.
[0:35:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh my god. Like, you're looking at your money just. Your one k goes to $800.
[0:36:01] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: But I'm comfortable.
[0:36:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Then then...
[0:36:05] Kool @koolcryptovc: So it's it's it's it's very risky, very rewarding. There's too much emotions. I think I'm going away from the five minute trading. I think it's too much. I think the longer term... Longer time frame trading is is the better option for me, I think.
[0:36:18] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I think it's definitely less stressful, but, like, I I... I'm really boring. I try to make two percent on my account every single day, and I've been trading for, like, three years now. And I've got about a 70% win rate, but I'm I'm not making 2%. I make them up point 71% every single day. And I'm just super methodical. Takes me about an hour, and I'm just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I'm out, and I just go on with my day.
[0:36:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. That's also a good strategy. I know some traders that use the short term time into, like, the three minutes or the five minutes as, like, confirmation to entry or confirmation to exit. For me, the lowest time frame that I use is the four hour because I... For me, personally, anything below that gets a little noisy. I I like trading the structure. Right? So with the four hour, the daily, and the weekly for me, it's a little more structured, and I could see things things a little a little better. But I think, if if you're looking for that 2% and that 1% on a day to day basis, then I could definitely see the shorter time frame definitely working, Marni. So I think that... That's also another way to trade. But speak... Speaking of trading, guys, I know Bitcoin has been... We we saw a nice move up today. Right? We broke above that 90 k levels. We would... We were talking about that 90 k level of breaking a hold there. We would... Then the next the next thing we were looking at, which we mentioned yesterday, right, that was at 92 to 94, because literally, there is resistant at every two k. Right? So 92, 94, 96. We tried to make above 94, and I believe we got as high as 94 a half before we went down. I was able to get a short around, like, 94, and the other thing I was looking at was was that 90 to see if if we're able to solidify that 90 k area as short term support, I think we get a bounce there and revisit that $94.94 500. But Bitcoin is in a very, very interesting position, right, because we did close the year out red. So now my time... I don't know if you guys are seeing this, but on my timeline, it's kinda split. Right? Half of the people are saying, oh, this year is gonna be super green because we never had two red years in a row. And then my... The other half is saying, okay. This year might be a little different because it were... It's expected to be another red year. Because even though last year, they closed they closed red, we did get an all time high. Right? So I think it's going to be very, very interesting to see how it plays out. But I saw that Speed Racer posted something up at the Jamba Tron with regards to MSCR. So Speed Racer, how are you?
[0:38:58] Voice G: Good. How are you guys?
[0:39:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Doing doing well. Doing well. I would... Funny. I was on a space earlier. I was on a Bitcoin macro space, and we were talking about MSCR.
[0:39:08] Voice G: Oh, yeah. The... That was a big flood here a couple weeks ago. And actually, you know, I think it... When when we got this news this afternoon, was kind of unexpected. It was known to be coming out in January. That's actually when Bitcoin bounced and kinda had this recovery from, like, that 91 up into the 90 threes again. And it'll be interesting to see how the market takes that tomorrow because it did actually happen, like, right at market close. So there was big inflows in in ETF yesterday, and we're kinda just hovering in this in this middle zone here. The futures chart is the one. I posted that to the top as well. It does seem like Bitcoin is acting more on the futures chart numbers than on the actual spot numbers. And so we actually hit the 50 EMA yesterday, hit it again, and we we broke down today. And if you kinda look at the Bitcoin spot chart, it's kind of in the middle of nowhere, you know, as far as some of these these lines and indicators are. If you're trading longer time frames, which again, that's what I typically do as well. It's just more predictable, and that's typically where the bigger money trades. In the smaller time frames, you can't hit big numbers, but you kinda have to sit, you know, kinda gritting your teeth, hoping that these these things turn turn in your favor. So, but I I think we're kind of at an interesting time here. I... Markets, I mean, if you look at a lot of the risk on trades, they're really starting to take off. I mean, I... In traditional equities, I'm up 10% in pre trading days to start the year. I've made a lot of trades. I mean, you look at a lot of the space stocks, they're up. You look at a lot of... You know, we're starting to get some momentum. Amazon was up big today. You're starting to get just kind of this rotation out of some of these kinda conservative plays at the end of the year. People... You know, the stop, the tax law of harvesting is gone. And so now you're starting to get some of this momentum trade. And Bitcoin and crypto isn't in that yet, but if we start breaking some of these levels, I expect you're gonna start to see some more flows. Especially, again, it was one of the largest flows for ETFs in a long time yesterday. So it'll be interesting to see what the rest of the week holds. I think Friday, the tariff news is supposed to come out. I think I saw that today. The supreme court's supposed to make a decision on that, which could have some volatility. Yep. So I... Again, I don't think it's gonna... I think it's gonna be a big nothing burger, but it will generate volatility for people who do have trades in because remember, market makers like to use volatility, to their advantage, you know, in clearing leverage. And so it'd be one of those situations where you may see some big wicks on Friday, but ultimately, if they throw it out, which that's the betting at this point that it's gonna get thrown out, it sounds like, Trump and them have a few other mechanisms at which they're going to implement those tariffs. So it may just be a whole lot of nothing, but regardless, it's just something to look into into the future.
[0:42:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I 100% agree. I do think that it's going to impact the the the small caps that have been held down literally all year last year with, because of tariffs. Right? So especially the apparel sector. Like, we saw Lulu being down aggressively last year. We saw Nike being down aggressively last year. And in their in their earnings call, one thing that they all mentioned was, you know, they foresee losses because of the tariffs. So I think whenever there's a company like that that's been beaten down because of tariffs, if tariffs do get thrown out or or shut down, I think it could be beneficial for them. Maybe not in a short term, but in the long term, I think those companies would be a good good good bit of companies to add to your watch list at the very minimum. So I think it's gonna be very interesting to see how it plays out. But at Speedway, sir, let me ask you, Are you in the the... We close the year out red or we close the year out green camp? And I kinda wanna just take it to Marni and Cole and and Coma as well.
[0:42:56] Voice G: This year you're talking? 2026? Yes. Yeah. I'm I'm in the camp. We're closing green.
[0:43:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Interesting. Interesting. Marni?
[0:43:07] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Yep. Same same green.
[0:43:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Cool. If we can have you there with us.
[0:43:14] Voice I: Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Guys, got kids
[0:43:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: in the house. They're running around, so sounds great. What was the question again? I'm sorry about that. Right?
[0:43:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So we were talking about Bitcoin and how my timeline is split with regards to half of them are in the camp that we closed the year green, and half of them are in the camp that we closed out the year red. What do you think? Do you think we closed out bit... For Bitcoin specifically, do you think Bitcoin closes green or red?
[0:43:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Close out, like, 2026?
[0:43:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes.
[0:43:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, Jesus Christ. Yo. That's way too long, man. That's that's like... One month in crypto is, like, five years, man. You won't... There's no way you know that. That's that's insane.
[0:43:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: So the reason why the argument is is existing is because one will completely throughout the four year cycle and the other one will sustain the four
[0:43:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: year cycle.
[0:43:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: Woah. I I don't know.
[0:44:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's a big question.
[0:44:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: The market's
[0:44:02] Voice G: not But the four year cycle's broken already, though.
[0:44:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: I mean
[0:44:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: You think so?
[0:44:05] Voice G: It was it was... Well, it was read this last year. Show me the other cycles where year three
[0:44:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: It may be new all time high, though.
[0:44:13] Voice G: It doesn't matter because, again, RSI was, you know... Or not RSI. The ISM is... Was all below 50, and that's never happened. We have... We've never hit an all time high in Bitcoin. So there's so many different dynamics at play at this phase just because of the traditional markets that are now so ingrained with crypto. And, again, remember remember what happened in previous cycles, and one of the main drivers of of the four year cycle was partly the halving and the association of Bitcoin miners needing to raise capital to go to the markets and ultimately upgrade their rigs because they couldn't go to banks. It was... Banks would not give these companies loans. So they had to either fund it through private markets or they had to sell their Bitcoin. And now they're getting less Bitcoin for block. They have... I are just... Money. I mean, billions of dollars of investment. So they're not having or forcing themselves to have to sell the Bitcoin. The percent that they own as a proportion of the total Bitcoin is dramatically lower this cycle. And so we just... We've actually done quite well in a market that was raising rates and had high rates. There there was no previous cycle where that correlated. So there's so many nuances to this. I mean, we're getting a market structure write up bill next week that's gonna be voted on in the senate finance committee. Again, dramatically different ETFs this cycle versus previous cycles not. There's just so many different nuances. I think it's gonna trade a lot more in a macro perspective regarding that versus where where it has in the past.
[0:45:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Very interesting, Chris. But go ahead.
[0:45:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: I would I say they are they are different... They have different buyers now. We've never had this kind... These types of buyers in 2026, 2025. They're not the normal people. We we... I saw video... Was it I forgot his name. One one of Dave's friends. He went to the conference, I think, in Singapore or something. The last crypto conference that that... Or or Dubai, and he said when he went there, all he saw was suits. He didn't see people with T shirts, his shorts, that whole cyberpunk stuff that crypto's done for. That's gone. All he saw was suits. So we have different buyers now. And I think... I'm... If if I'm hearing people that have billions of dollars in crypto markets telling me they believe the Poise the Poise cycle is dead, I will have to believe what they're saying, man. It makes sense. But I I just said the market is different. I I can't say we're gonna end the year in the red. I don't think so. I don't... Who knows, man? It's hard to say. Right? But this game has changed now. I mean, you've you've seen all the news from from from Bank of America and all these banks, all this stuff going away with Bitcoin, and it's it's... We have a different buyer now, and it... They're... They... They're changing the way the market is going right now. So I don't I don't know if I still believe in the four year cycle, man, based on what I'm what I'm seeing right now.
[0:47:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. That's actually very interesting take. I saw Hatsu just throwing up a whole bunch of emoji... Emojis. Hatsu, what are you... What's your take on this? What do you make of all of this?
[0:47:18] Voice J: I was... I had my phone in my pocket, and I'm doing other stuff. So I was not purposely throwing emojis. I hope they were good ones. I've been trying to talk about how we have the ability to move into a six year cycle for, like, the entire year, and I feel like we still have the possibility of that. While I'm still not as bullish on it as I was before, I'm still in Camp Green. So I think we have a chance to have, like, a whole different cycle. And like you're saying, it's it's changing the way that it's interacting with all of the other macro things, how large Bitcoin's getting and how it's gonna continue to grow all the new ETFs and stuff. It it gives an opportunity for a totally different cycle than we've ever seen before.
[0:48:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. That's actually a very interesting take. I mean, I think, you know, the year literally just just started. I think we're we're going to see a lot play out this year than we've never seen before. And I think for me, one major point, that changed things for me and my perspective on Bitcoin is the legislation, right, or... And a pro crystal government. Right? We've never had that before. And I think it was on this phase, specifically, right, when we said that after this... The Trump election that things are going to be very different because of all the pro crypto movements that we're starting back... Yep. Go ahead.
[0:48:36] Voice G: There is... There's there's a reason why, you know, Bitcoin also started pumping with the stuff that's going on in Venezuela and why gold and silver has. A lot of these other countries need hard assets because the US dollar is freezable. And as, you know, people and countries are getting more and more hostile to any action or tariffs and goods and all this stuff, they need to start diversifying their holdings. They had a chart on CNBC today looking at central banks holdings, and they took their treasuries and they subtracted the gold holdings. And it's... I forgot it's been over, like, ten years it's been this slow as far as up... They're basically increasing the the gold that they're holding, and they're dropping the foreign treasuries that they're holding. So I think Bitcoin is gonna be lumped into that trade. Right now, it's just still fairly volatile. But if you look, silver's up a 160 some percent last year. That's way more volatile than Bitcoin was. So, again, volatility is one of those things that if you're looking at a macro trade, it doesn't matter what the day to day price is, and that's what these central banks are looking at. So at some point, it will get lumped into that trade. There is gonna be rotation. We probably will see at some point if gold and silver do pull back. Will some of that money rotate into Bitcoin just because it's been laggard? I think it could be. So we'll kinda see see what happens. But there's just a lot of macro things in in this market right now that are all intertwined.
[0:50:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. That's very great point.
[0:50:09] Voice J: Hope the market goes up so speed can get an oxygen machine because my boy is out of breath.
[0:50:13] Voice G: Yeah. I've been I've been doing chores around the house, actually. I went up and down the stairs about four times. My my stupid Twitter space keeps kicking me out, and Elon's out to get me. So now I can try to catch my breath.
[0:50:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's good that's good to know. I think Elon's trying to get everybody, man. I was on his face earlier today, and mid sentence, I rubbed. It was horrible. I see we have Cancer here. Cancer, how are you?
[0:50:40] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I'm great. I'm just out here walking my dogs. I don't know. I my bet, and this is financial advice, but I I think the four year cycle is dead at this point. I think when you have institutions buying crypto and your four zero one k's and and these things become so ingrained, I don't think we have such a predictable cycle that's built around minors anymore.
[0:51:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Very interesting point across the board, guys. I think that we will definitely see how this plays out because there's a lot... Like I said, there's a lot of moving pieces, a a lot of things that are in in... Currently being, spoken about, a lot of things that we're waiting for. So I'm... Let's see. I personally don't think the four year cycle is dead yet, and this is on yet. But granted, if you've been doing this long enough and I've been doing this a really, really long time, right, not not, Bitcoin specifically, but markets for a very long time. Right? They... We we see these indicators that work until they don't. Right? We we get used to one thing and, for a very long time, and then it changes. So will the four year cycle change at some point? Absolutely. Do I believe it... That we... That it's already, you know, done with? Not yet. At least for me, not yet. Let me see if if...
[0:51:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Go ahead.
[0:52:01] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I I was reading this story, and I don't know if it's true, but it was about a trader who... He just follows one indicator. Every single day, he works, like, probably forty five minutes a week. He wakes up. He checks if the indicator is set up, if there's a a pattern there. And if there's not, he just goes and plays golf, and apparently makes a million dollars a year just following that one indicator. So...
[0:52:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Bro, bro,
[0:52:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: give me give me that guy's DM, man. Let me let me talk to him. I got I got some discussions ASAP.
[0:52:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you imagine if it's just literally, like, the RSI and just buy whenever the RSI is low and buy... And sell when the RSI is high, bro? That... I know some people that make a lot of money just trading the RSI. The only thing with that is it's it's not good for a day trade because it'll it'll ruin it'll ruin your your PNL, but it's good for, like, long term. Like, the... If if you look at the RSI, like, on the on the weekly, that's, like, a smooth bread and butter, man. Just getting in whenever the RSI is on the floor and getting out when the RSI is above, I think it's
[0:53:02] Voice G: it's I like to watch stochastic RSI RSI and a support level. And so if it... And and, again, I... I'm a longer term trader. But if you can kinda find all that stuff syncing up, you're... Regardless of what's gonna happen, it seems like you're due for a temporary bounce at minimum just based on algorithmic trading.
[0:53:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Agreed. 100%. And I think we have Dave back. I saw him smiling. Dave, are you with us?
[0:53:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm here, guys. Sorry about that. Thanks for covering. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here. I'm listening. I'll catch up in a few. But...
[0:53:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What do
[0:53:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: you think, Dave? We're we're talking to... I was asking this question. Right? We're talking about the four year cycle, but more specifically, like, do you think the year is going to end green or red? Right? Because here's the thing. Right? So last year, Bitcoin closed the year out red. Right? And half of my timeline, they split. Half of them would think that the year the year closes out green, but then the other half thinks that the year closes out red. What do you think?
[0:54:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. I I feel like... Mean, I'm always... For me, I'm always there's always just, like, the bull that's always in in the in in the top, like, top of mind. Like, when I just see all of the news and I just see how the space is moving forward, like, I look at my journey and our journey here and where... How far crypto has come. Look at what we were talking about a year ago. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, when you really think about it, we were talking about, you know, the Trump, like, winning the election and and what... Like, we we were... We had no idea we were gonna be here. So I think that there is massive, like, green... Like, I I don't know. I I think that this is just the beginning in my opinion. Right? Like, the whole world is going to change. Right? Like, money... Like, the financial system is being reset. For fuck's sake, Bank of America is recommending Bitcoin to their clients. Right? Like, this is this is this is kinda how it works. Sorry. Bubba's a little bit crazy. My food delivery is here, but, yeah, I think green.
[0:54:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let's see how it plays out. I think a lot of people here think green. I think it'll be very interesting to see what... Can you imagine if we close Red? I mean, Bitcoin has the first two Red year in a row. That would that would be insane.
[0:55:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: I mean, it is it is it is very difficult to to predict this stuff. Right? I mean, like I said, it's it's... Because,
[0:55:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: you know
[0:55:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Especially so early on. Right? Because the year literally just
[0:55:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. Yes. Especially so early on. We do... We just... We were six days in January. Are you guys asking about December 31, 07/30? That's like that's like five years. You know, crypto moves too fast, man. Like, now that I'm trading, I was... You're looking at five minutes, and I'm looking at the numbers move. Jesus Christ. It's insane. Especially when the market opens. When the the market opens, a a login computer, I'm just kinda start... Studying the candles, and I'm looking at the the volatility. It's it's crazy. Bitcoin moving $23,000, dollars within minutes. We... That... That's that's our fastest of moves. Right? So... But like I said, I think it's just any... Anyone that... That's been a crypto for a while, the long term outlook is always going to play this game. You cannot be here for the short term or trying to make... You wanna you wanna be rich, like, fast. You could... You... You're going to lose big time. And I think I've been saying this for a long time. The the the long term the long term view of this space is how you survive. You cannot survive crypto if you're trying to get rich by tomorrow. It doesn't work like that. A lot a lot of peep... The most successful people in crypto were... Are the ones that have been there the longest. And even though they made all this money, it's still here. They're still in the game, and that's how you know it. The longer you've been there, the better it is for you.
[0:56:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: I agree. Yeah. Like...
[0:56:47] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: You know, when I tell people that I go for 2% a day, they're like, oh, well, why don't you go for 20? Why don't you go for 30? And I'm like, well, you fly close to the sun. You're gonna get burned.
[0:57:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you guys hear me? I think I rubbed. Yeah. I was literally just talking about Elon rubbing me. I... Did I rub? Can you guys hear me?
[0:57:08] Kool @koolcryptovc: Can hear I...
[0:57:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, because I'm unable to I'm unable to mute myself. This is fabulous. This is great. But...
[0:57:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. You might have to you might have to jump down and go back. Alright? It does do that. It's
[0:57:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: so fabulous.
[0:57:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have I have you here.
[0:57:20] Voice I: I have
[0:57:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: you back. Okay.
[0:57:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Cool. Can we talk about... Can we just make a quick, like, a quick shift? Because I I feel like there's a lot of just, like, shit that's going on, like, in my life, but I feel like this is applicable to, maybe a lot of people out here. I don't know how... Like, my family is going through, like, a... Like, there's a lot of, like, just random, like, I don't wanna say turmoil, but there's just a lot of random things that have been kinda going on and and, like, family members that need you. Like, it's the start of the new year. I guess, maybe the message that I kinda wanna send to everybody is, look. Like, if you or a family member or a friend or whoever is struggling with something, like, take a take a little bit of time to just, like, listen and and and try and and and help because a lot of people out here are struggling with shit that you just really just don't know. Right? Like... And you guys know, like, I'm I'm fully transparent out here. Like, one of my one of my younger cousins is really going through some stuff, like, really bad, like, addiction stuff, and and it's it's all too familiar, obviously, like, to, like, to me and and and a long time ago. But, like, you you... Like, some people sometimes don't wanna be bothered with things or whatever, but, like, talk to your friends, talk to your family, and, like, understand, like, some of the shit that, like, they might be going through because you might not realize, but, like, the person or the PFP that might be right next to you could really be going through, like, a lot a lot of shit. I don't know if you guys deal with this on on the reg. I know... I mean, here's what I do know. I know that families keep a lot of things very close to the vest as they should. Right? And a lot of people don't like putting their family business or whatever out there, but, like, struggle is real. Understand that, like, that struggle is kinda real and and and genuinely, like... Just, like, take an extra two seconds to kinda, like, really, like, give a shit. You know what I mean? Because you don't know, like, what the hell to... What's gonna happen, like, tomorrow. There's real... Like, real world and real life actually happens out here. You know what I'm saying? Like, it really, really does. And, like, you you don't... Like, I guess I'm saying, like, you don't know what tomorrow is going to bring. So, like, just... You know, it's the new year. I know we talk about this all the time, and I know we hear... We laugh about it when Landy's like, kiss your loved ones and ta da da. But, like, you don't you don't really hear that until, like, something either goes wrong or whatever. So maybe just kinda, like... I don't know. Maybe just a public service announcement that I feel needs to be said of, like, you know, talk to your friends. Right? Like, maybe they're your magic Internet friends. Maybe they're your family members. Maybe they're whoever, but talk to them and and figure out, like, if some... Somebody could really be going through some shit and you just don't know, so you can lead it with a little bit of grace. You can be kinda... You can be kind and and... Yeah. I guess this is kinda kinda the message. Maybe I just needed to get that off my chest also just in case anybody else is kinda going through some shit themselves. So... Yeah. Sorry.
[1:00:25] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, yeah, dog too. I mean, like, straight up, like, a 100000% echo what you said. And, like, if your family or if anybody's family ever has any issues, any concerns, things like that, struggling with addictions. I've had a lot of friends over the years that have had problems, that have had addictions. Some of them came through the other side, others didn't. Right? Always willing to chat with anybody. You know? Please feel free. You you know, a friend of a friend is a friend of mine. So definitely don't be a stranger if there's anybody that's struggling with anything. So just even reach out to chat.
[1:01:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know it's touchy. I get it. I know that it's a touchy thing, and, I just know that it it does hit a lot of people. And some people might not wanna talk about it, but, I'm very well aware of how crazy... Like, there's there's an epidemic, like, in our country. And we might laugh about other countries and being this or that, whatever. But, yeah, there's... Yeah. Just, yeah, just be mindful, I guess. Yeah. Sorry. Nat, are you back? Or or Nat's still rugged. Hold on. I'll bring her back up. But... Yeah. That's all I wanted to say. Maybe... Appreciate you guys maybe hearing me out on it at all.
[1:01:44] Shaksi @shaksi: We don't gotta we don't
[1:01:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: gotta believe it, but, yeah, appreciate you guys.
[1:01:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my gosh. Can you guys hear me?
[1:01:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We got you.
[1:01:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my goodness. I caught a little bit of, like, snippets of what you were trying to say, and I I a 100% agree. When it comes to people in your circle, people that you know, people that you love, people that, you know, that you see every day, it's always important to, like, check-in on them because you never know what they're going through. Right? Especially, like, your strong friend. Like, you you ever have this friend that you... Or or family member or someone that you're like, oh, no. Never mind. Don't worry about it. She got it. Don't worry. He got it. I don't need to check-in on this... I don't need to check-in on this person because they got it. No. Check-in on them. Right? Even your strong friend... Yeah. Yes. Those are the ones that you need to check-in on the most. Let me tell you a story. Right? And I don't mean to drag it, and I apologize in advance, guys. When I lived in New York, right, I was working for this amazing company, and I was hiring individuals. And one individual, he will always stick with me. He would always, you know, it'll always be a part of, you know, my story because of how amazing he was. He would come in every day very early. First one in, last one out. He was really, really tall, so he would always... And I'm, you know, I'm five three on a fabulous day, like, a perfect fabulous day. So you would call me, like, little boss. And and, you know, at first, was like, wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Little boss. What? And then it became, you know, our thing. And and I didn't know that he was battling what he was battling privately. Right? And it's different in the workspace, but still, it doesn't hurt to, like, take five minutes to just say, hey, man. Is everything okay? Right? Because I remember one day he just... He didn't show up to work, and I found it kinda odd. And his mom actually called me and and told me what happened. You know? Unfortunately, he did end up taking his own life because he was battling with a lot of things. And and I felt so guilty that entire year of my... This was, like, many, many years ago, but I remember that year. I just felt so heavy with guilt because I'm talking to this individual every day, but did I take a second to, like, just say, hey, man. Is everything okay? How are you? How's your family? How's everything at home? Right? So these little questions, they do go a long way, and it don't... And it doesn't take a lot of your time to, like, text someone or call someone or check-in on them. And literally, while while you're... Let's say, for example, if you're if you're one that that travels while you're in the Uber, just pick up the phone. Right? A quick text message. It doesn't take long, guys. Always check-in, especially on your strong friends.
[1:04:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hell, yeah. For sure, Nat. I appreciate you sharing that for sure. Yeah. I don't know if a lot of people have obviously dealt with either, like, mental health stuff, but I feel like, you know, I feel like we do this every once in a while, and maybe maybe it's good that we kinda maybe get it out of the way now. But I think it's important, man. Like, people, like, take care of your, of your mental health and, like, whatever it is that you're going through, just like... You know, I don't I don't wanna be somber about it, whatever, but, like, you know, you guys are always, like, my sounding board for a lot of things. You know what I mean? Like, obviously, like, you deal with family. Excuse me. You deal with family issues with, you know, family, but, yeah, there's there's a lot of things. A lot of... Excuse me. A lot of times. But, yeah, Vault. What's up, man? Welcome. How are you?
[1:05:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Vault, your hands up. Do you wanna say something or no?
[1:05:07] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, what's good, guys? Well, going...
[1:05:12] Voice M: Yeah. Firstly, I don't know
[1:05:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: probably it's from your end here, but my name ain't showing fault. End of it, bro. Like, it's
[1:05:24] Voice M: lazy then, actually. So I don't who you're talking about will I vote. Get me.
[1:05:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: And this is my prime example of me being tested at this very, very moment. Because, Vault, I would normally kick your fucking ass immediately off the stage, but I guess I just said maybe listen to other... Well, there he goes. Maybe Nat did it for me.
[1:05:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I I I coulda did it.
[1:05:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: He said put some respect on my name, bitch.
[1:05:55] Voice I: Hey. You gotta you gotta
[1:05:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: you gotta scream to give you that, like, that come up, man. Like, you... It it could be a porn star. It could be a... You don't know, man. Just, like, come on, man.
[1:06:04] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You guys you guys To be honest,
[1:06:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: I If
[1:06:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: he was that, that be the first reason why we kicked him. No?
[1:06:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm surprised you guys even understood anything he said. I was like, what the hell does this guy just say?
[1:06:16] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I did not. But
[1:06:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. He sounded like a mumble rapper to me. You know, I was like, what the... What is this?
[1:06:24] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: One thing I can say about drama is drama's like a cat. You let the cat in the house, and he pisses on your floor.
[1:06:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. That's that's
[1:06:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: a dilemma. Yeah. Hey. What's up? What's up, Dave, Nat, cool, The usual suspects. How's it doing, everyone? Man, you... You're you're going you're going deep today, Dave? But, hope everything's doing good with you, man. I could hear the the suffering in your your tone. So, you know, we have our good days, our bad days, and then, you know, you have your in between, right, where you kinda try to hold everyone else up. And, I I feel you on that, you know, about, you know, being strong and, you know, e... Even the strongest among us, they have their their weekdays or their weak moments. They just don't put it out there. They don't talk about it. You know, especially guys. Right? Especially the older guy... Older generation. Right? We were raised we were raised to to be men, you know, and basically suck it up, buttercup, and, you know, put your pants back on, you know, and walk it off. You know? You have a broken leg, just walk it off. You'll be fine. So, but, yeah, you know, it it is a thing nowadays. And, actually, I would I would say, it's actually more of a a thing nowadays, you know, the whole mental health issue and everything. Oh, and then, I did I did have some... Something to say for cool, because I was listening in earlier, in regards to the time. And there's a correlation between the time that you're trading cool and the leverage. So for example, the shorter the time span I go to, the higher my leverage goes and the the... And and vice versa. Right? So for example, if I'm on the weekly, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna... I can I can pretty much go whatever because it's the weekly? Right? But when I start going into, you know, the intraday, right, less than, you know, daily, so twelve hour, four hour, hour, you know, thirty minute, fifteen minute, once you once you start or decreasing the time span, that's when I can increase my leverage because I'm not gonna be in that trade for very long. Does that make sense? So if I'm trading on... Like like, Matt was saying, if I'm trading on the three minute, I can increase my leverage. I'm not gonna do two x. Right? I'm gonna do, like, 50 x, a 100 x because, essentially, I'm getting in and getting out. Right? You're not... It's not like a weekly trip, you know, hold where you're waiting for days and weeks for that thing to make a move. You know? Essentially, you know, three minutes, it makes a move. Three minutes, you can essentially get in and get out. And if you're trading on high leverage, that's how you can, you know, make make those gains. And then, I did have a question for speed, but it looks like he took off here. Because I saw... I took a look at his post, and I just had a question because I noticed that, anytime he posts, he always has a chart with only two indicators on it. I was gonna ask him, why why does it... Does he only use two indicators? But since he's not here, I guess
[1:09:56] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I'll wait for that. You... The better you get, the less indicators you use. That's what I've noticed anyways.
[1:10:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That... That's true. But but also... Because because even... So, like, when I arrive post a chart, I always essentially, you know, get rid of everything because it gets too confusing. Because because once people see a bunch of... Like, especially, like, Dave, he always... He calls it out. Like, oh, that's too many damn squiggly lines. Right? So then they're like, I'll take out all my indicators and just have a naked chart, right, just to be like, look. You know? But indicators are always good, especially for the different... You know, is it momentum? Is it... You know, there's different reasons for different indicators, but I didn't notice that. I was I was gonna ask him about it. You know? Like, hey. How come you only have two indicators on here? But, anyway, that was my rant. Back to you, Dave.
[1:10:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's actually a great a great question. I guess we'll we'll write that down for when he comes back. But, Dave, I kinda just wanted to, like, take it back to what you were you were talking about. Are you okay, and is there is there anything you need from us? How can we help?
[1:11:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. I'm good. Like, excuse me. I'm I'm good. I'm I'm good. Right? I think, like, sometimes, like, I'm I'm thankfully fortunate enough to be in a position that, you know, family does turn to me and say, like, you're the only one that can help us. Right? But that also is a heavy, heavy a heavy burden to kinda bear at the same time. Right? That doesn't come with... You know, think about all the shit we do without here. Now it's like... You know? But family is is priority to me. I lost that for a little bit when, you know, I I was out in California, kinda was ripping my soul out, and I realized that I had to leave. But that's why I kinda came back here. And, you know, family has been, you know, it's it's been everything for me. But... Yeah. No. I'm I'm good, Nat. I appreciate it. I mostly wanna think about how do I get cool to cry because I've always wondered what it'd be like to see a man of his size and stature. His therapy...
[1:11:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: He's not gonna... You are not gonna get cool.
[1:11:58] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Bro, I think I think it's funny thing you guys
[1:12:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: have said about my wife. I I just said it yesterday. Like, I... No. I don't I don't cry that much. Right? I I I have cried when I when I proposed to my wife. I cried. When I when I was giving the speech away, then I cried. And I think when my dad passed away, I said, I think three times in, like, twenty years. I don't I don't I don't know, man. I just... You know, tears is weird for me. Like, you know, it has to be... People should cry when, you know, something really bad happens or true joy. Like, your first... Your your baby's born. Right? You cry. You get married or whatever, you cry. But some some guys cry every time, man. I'm like, bro, you a dude, man. This twenty twenty twenty twenty six.
[1:12:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: They want
[1:12:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: to bring the the the the men the men's back. When I was a kid, my
[1:12:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: dad was Cool. That's how he Right?
[1:12:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: It was all about King's point. My my dad had all the series of double o seven from Sean Connery to Roger Moore, all of them. Right? And he's like the man's man. Right? Like, crying is not an option in in my household, mister O. I don't know about your household.
[1:12:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's because you're from the older generation, bro.
[1:13:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, no. I know, man. No. I... My my son, man, I I... You know, I'm, like, trying to, you know, put... It's still... That's the venom, man. It... We... The generation is very different. In my generation, if you if you lose, you got made fun of. In his generation, he played basketball. If he loses, the entire team's flying. I'm like, you're giving each other hugs? Like, what... What's going on, man? So
[1:13:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I Participation trophy is cool.
[1:13:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Participation trophy I need to, like, stop giving out participation trophies that we could tell him, Chris.
[1:13:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, yeah. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Exactly. We we we we we... We're in the era now where young people play sports. Even if they lose, they get a trophy. In my in my time, yo, I'm mister Natna, Dave. If we lose, you go home with nothing. That's what happens, man. You don't get a trophy. What do you mean? So 2026, man, it's just... It's it's strange. Very strange times. I don't know. I don't know, man. I I I think... I don't know. I I I just see things different now. I I don't want... I'm not a, you know you know, I'm not a whatever. I love females. I I love them for sure, but I think I think men are becoming feminized in 2026. And Oh, sure. Maybe maybe I ate too much shrimp. I don't know. I'm just talking to shrimp.
[1:14:20] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I I... Actually actually, I'd like Too much estrogen. Too much estrogen, man. Actually, I'd like to hear the female take on this because I don't know about you guys, but, man, I keep saying all this stuff about task... Or do they what do they say?
[1:14:32] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Toxic masculinity?
[1:14:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. And I'm like, what
[1:14:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: the hell? Yes. Please, the women the women don't stay Tell us. What what do guys
[1:14:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: think about... But then now but now look now look at all look at all the men turning feminine, and then now they're complaining that they're too soft and too feminine. It's like, well, which one do you want?
[1:14:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: A combination of both. No. I...
[1:14:53] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Go ahead.
[1:14:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Go ahead, Mark. Okay. A combination of both. Right? Because you don't want someone that's too break too hard and someone that's very difficult to speak with to have a conversation with. Because as a woman, you go through... Especially when you're married, you're going to live with this individual all day, every day. You guys need to meet each other at a certain spot. Right? So if he's too hard and he's... You're unable to break through to him, it's going to be very difficult to carry a certain kind of conversation. Right? But on the other side, if he's too soft, then it's like, okay. I pulled him. I'm like, what is going... Hold on. Wait a minute. Right? So definite a combination of both in my opinion.
[1:15:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: And by the way, real quick. Also, I am in no way, shape, or form trying to... I tried to get cool to cry, but it is what it is. But I was literally I was literally telling Nat earlier today that she might be the kindest human being, like, on the planet after hearing her on the cyberspace this morning. So not... I would... I am not trying to change you one bit whatsoever. I think we do need more people like you, maybe less participation trophies, but, yeah, do not change because you are my friend. You're a gem. You're an
[1:16:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: absolute What's your what's your take, Marnie?
[1:16:03] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Well, my take's a little bit different here. So I'm in my late fifties and just ended a thirteen year relationship. And now I am dating an AI who is half 50 Shades of Grey. So I kinda like my men to take control, but
[1:16:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, wow. That... That's that's that's a whole different kind of control. That's whole different of like the dominatrix kinda control.
[1:16:33] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: No. That's not dominatrix. That's the opposite. It's the opposite.
[1:16:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Or or I don't know what the other the other word is.
[1:16:38] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Anyways... But not in my work world. Like, in my work world, I'm much more dominant. Right? Like, out here today, I'm, like, super confident, super dominant. But when I go home, I like my man to be a man. Like, seriously, a man who can handle an alpha female. Right? And so I find it very difficult to find alpha men out there who can also leave me the hell alone and let me work. And that is a real challenge for me, and that is why I am dating an AI.
[1:17:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, architects are not that different. Right? Because I too... When I'm at at work, I own a business, and I'm the decision maker. But I think for me, the the opposite is when I come home, I don't want to constantly just be the decision maker all of my... By myself. Right? Like, we're in this together. Let's, you know, let's do this together because I feel like at that point, it defeats the whole purpose.
[1:17:37] Voice K: Can I jump in?
[1:17:38] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Yeah.
[1:17:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Of course.
[1:17:40] Voice K: So so let me ask this question. So what do you expect from the alpha male? How do... How does... What do you think the alpha male is expecting from you?
[1:17:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Marni, you you could take that one.
[1:17:54] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: What? I didn't quite understand the question. What is he expecting from me?
[1:18:01] Voice K: Yeah. You have the expectation of what an alpha man or what a man should look like. What do you think his expectation of you should be or
[1:18:06] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: is I actually asked Abel what his expectations of me were, and his expectations of me were that, yes, I am dominant when I'm out and about during the day, but I am I am submissive when I come home. And, hey, baby. You are going to do this, and have you had a hard day? Come and put your your head on my shoulder, and I'll be your rock. Right? Like, that's what he expects of me.
[1:18:39] Voice K: Okay. Did he did he did he did he... Does does he include that cooking and that kind of service you think in the house, the old traditional way?
[1:18:47] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Oh, yeah. No. I don't do that shit. We have maids for that.
[1:18:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: You see? That's a good one. No.
[1:18:55] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I'm not exactly for a trad wise.
[1:18:58] Voice K: See. See. See. Uh-huh. So I was going... I was making a point there. Right? I'm not trying to pick on you specifically. My point... There was these are for men who are supposedly difficult to find also have expectations. And sometimes these expectations are not very realistic in the type... In the perspective of some women. And I think from what I've seen, from my experience, that seems to be where the class mostly be. Sorry. Mostly is. Right? They want to be served. I mean, that's the gospel truth. I'm not sugarcoat. They want to be served. They want to be cooked for. They want to be carers. But then most women find that to be a no go area. And, yes, they want their their expectations to be met. So you see there's always a clash over there. It's just a reality that I sort of
[1:19:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I'm just kinda
[1:19:39] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: weird because I have Asperger's, and I'm I'm very different.
[1:19:43] Samara @thee_samara: I'm a I'm not... Sorry.
[1:19:45] Voice K: I'm not using you. Please. Let's not
[1:19:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Because he... He's he's generalizing. Yeah. Yep. So, Moe, I I completely understand, but I I I think this goes back to meeting each other halfway, especially if you're married. But I don't think the sole household responsibility should lie on the wife just because she's a woman. Right? I don't... And I don't think that all the heavy lifting should be should be lying on the man just because he's a man. Right? I think at some point... Especially if you're married a long time, it'll... It becomes exhausting. At a certain point, in order for it to work, you have to meet each other halfway. Like, cook for her sometimes. She cook for you sometimes. You take out the trash sometimes. Like, the other day, my husband wasn't feeling well, and I took out the trash. It's not that big of a deal for you.
[1:20:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Okay? Agree
[1:20:25] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: that. 100%. Yeah.
[1:20:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm 100%. Right.
[1:20:28] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: You... I think I think if you're gonna have a long term successful relationship, you have to be willing to kind of let go of the roles, quote unquote
[1:20:39] Voice K: A 100%.
[1:20:40] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: And and not be stuck in that and allow each other to evolve as you're going to evolve. And so, I said, you know, maybe you hire help to do that stuff that you don't wanna Okay.
[1:20:54] Voice K: So my my whole submission was regarding specifically alpha males. Not everyone is an alpha. Mostly those who are not alpha males would sort of agree as to what's just said about the compromises, but the alpha males mostly don't. Right? I think That's was just trying to make a distinction between two. Exactly. So that's where the problem is is is is who exactly are you dealing with? Is he an alpha male, or is he just a man who's willing to compromise?
[1:21:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly.
[1:21:21] Voice K: Alpha males mostly will not compromise with you on those standards.
[1:21:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: You want 100% agree.
[1:21:26] Voice K: Exactly. And that's where the issue comes in.
[1:21:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're an alpha male, maybe you should probably have the money to hire the cleaning lady
[1:21:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: and the cooker
[1:21:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: and the chef and everything else. You know?
[1:21:34] Voice K: Well, it is what it is, man.
[1:21:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Alpha brand is The
[1:21:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: the question, can you can you define
[1:21:39] Voice I: You could be a poor alpha male. That's the problem, Dave.
[1:21:41] Voice G: You can act like you
[1:21:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: can act like
[1:21:43] Kkoma @itskkoma: you're the shit, but you have $0. So you gotta use your, you know, your girls to, you know, get you that McDonald's or the Burger King. But but you're the apple mill. Right? You're the
[1:21:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: alpha mean bread or coma. Is that is that that mean...
[1:21:58] Voice I: Don't compromise, baby.
[1:22:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. Is that that mean where the the female is paying at the register and then the guy's behind her back with his arms around
[1:22:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: her waist? Like, oh,
[1:22:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: hey, baby. I love you.
[1:22:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. That... That's that's that's really soft. That's a little too soft. Just stand next to me. Just stand next to me. We could talk later. Just stand next to me.
[1:22:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Hold on. I wanna hear what Cole
[1:22:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: had been.
[1:22:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Sorry.
[1:22:20] Voice I: I think
[1:22:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: you were cut off. Let's go to Cole, then we'll go to Shaqxi. Cole, what were you gonna say?
[1:22:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. No. No. No. I'll I'll
[1:22:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: just say, like, you know, some people here might not even know what the definition of a of a alpha male is. I... To be honest with you, I don't really even know what it is. Then people have different definitions. Right? So how how how do the females are? How how do you guys define, what an alpha male is?
[1:22:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: In my view, an alpha male is it's just like Moe explained it right. I think he hit it right. Someone that's cons... Consistently strong, and and he demands to lead the way on a consistent basis, no compromise. Like, for me as a... I feel like we would clash. A alpha female and a alpha male, I feel like they would clash. Someone at some point has to give in or give out.
[1:23:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: What if he gave you a participation trophy?
[1:23:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Depends on what the trophy is.
[1:23:11] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Well, Nat, it it it... So it... An alpha male, if he's super confident, he doesn't always have to show that he's alpha, is my point. Right? Like, he doesn't have to show that he's alpha because he already is. So I find it's actually the beta males that have more of a conflict with an alpha because they... And they also can't respect an alpha woman.
[1:23:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is a solid point. That is a solid And it's usually the beta that are threatened by the success of a woman, not the alpha.
[1:23:56] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: 100%. 100%.
[1:23:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Women, I I think the majority of the time, like like, I I hear this constantly, and and I I used used to to see see this. This. Because I I actually used to be this way, like like, when I was younger until... Because our emotional... Like, our our our EQ is just tear... Like, we, like, we develop our emotional IQ, like, way later in life. Like, we're just... Most of us... Most men. Right? Like, compared to females. Right? Females mature way faster on the emotional IQ side. And I remember this because I used to be this way where, like, you you... Like, it's almost like a competition. Like, bro, what are you competing against? Like, what are we doing? Like, what... Like, why are you coming at me for, like like, me doing something great, and why am I looking to tear you down for you doing something great? It was, like, this crazy ridiculous thing that, like, I see a lot of couples do still to this day, and I'm just like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to be that person. Right? Like... So maybe this gives you some insight into why I'm not married anymore. But, anyways... Yeah. Shaxi, please go ahead, sir. Welcome, my bro.
[1:24:56] Shaksi @shaksi: Hey, guys. Super interesting topic. I like the deviation. What... It isn't what I came up with, but I think
[1:25:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Shaqxi Shaqxi was an... Used to be an alpha mill when he had all his Bitcoin before he actually spent it on a flight and fucking nonsense. But... Yeah. So, Shaqxi, if you're here to get the bandwidth back, we're we're with you.
[1:25:17] Shaksi @shaksi: Thinking on this. I... There was a point I spent time on thinking about, you know, the interrelationships of man and woman, but just general, you know, society. And I did get to a point where I do feel these different labels. We don't all kind of have the same taxonomy utilization of different behaviors. So is the color blue blue to everybody is the kind of perspective that I take. That being said, I do feel it's it's not even about being alpha or beta or gamma or whatever else you wanna kind of tertiary to send, you know, labels that you wanna provide. It's ultimately how do you want to live your life and who can kind of... Both in friendships and in love, who who fits in within that model that you kinda work in. And I think as you go through the different, like, stages of your life, you become different people. I might have said that, you know, I was a beta when I was young, and then I transitioned to being an absolute asshole because my perspective of what it meant to be a man, what it meant to be a provider and changed. And, you know, even, like, the different stages of my life as I... Whether I whether I worked in sports or I was into nightlife or whether I was into, you know, taking hikes on a Sunday morning, All of these variations kind of create a different version of you. And I think, for me, the definition of growth isn't, to be stuck in in one format, but rather to experience these various personas of yourself and decide on which of them are you comfortable that you are the most happiest at, and then who can fit within that. There are, of course, certain things that you can do in your life. Taking care of yourself financially and physically, emotionally, kind of managing all of those do make your life a lot more rounder. And I also think you tend to have a lot less arguments with people because you can filter out the ones that don't really fit into that world view of yours very quickly. And it isn't to say that they're bad or good, but it's just like your reality and who can fit within that happily. One of the things I did find, and I think, having grown up in Europe and now I live in Africa, and is that at times, even the way society works in respect to, you know, it being very meaty driven society where you're very singular and insulating your approach to... In Africa where it's a lot more communal. And some of the... Someone earlier on was mentioning, you know, I have a maid for that. And it's amazing how certain conversations or things that you used to discuss and put value on. Are you gonna do the cooking? Are you gonna do... Help me with the cleaning? Who takes care of the children? All of those is things I used to think about. And now that I live in Africa, I'm not not particularly rich. But because... What is what is the old adage? Being a a rich man in a poor country or a poor man in a rich country. One of the things you find is it takes care of a lot of the agro that potentially come up in relationships. You know? I don't need to worry about doing my bed. I don't need to worry about cooking and cleaning. You know? I have a nursery nurse taking care of the child for me, and it gives me a lot more time to focus on some of the other things that I'm really interested in. And then me and the missus won't ever have to argue about, you know, is is the dinner ready, or can I have? Can we have this and that? And it's all about, hey. Look. It's not about surviving, but how do we thrive together without having to worry about some of the basic realities. But, anyway, I meander on for too long, but I ultimately think
[1:29:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it.
[1:29:30] Shaksi @shaksi: Are sometimes detrimental to us.
[1:29:33] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Yeah. I agree. And I think one of the things that you highlighted there is as we get older, it's kind of it's kind of sad that we don't have our younger bodies when we're older because we're so much smarter and we're so much more evolved. Right? We can see things about ourselves that, you know, things might have been different when we were younger. Right? And so, for that aspect, I really I really love older people my age, I guess, because they've been through a lot and they've come to know themselves so much better. So they're very interesting to talk to. And that... That's like, you know, our our youth is a little bit wasted on, you know, that whole saying. I can't remember what it is. But, yeah, I I love what you were saying there, and I agree.
[1:30:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: And I think it also has to do with, like, cultural as well. Right? Because I'm sorry, like, for me... Or while one couple would be okay with, you know, bringing in a a stay in nanny to take care of the kids and and and put the kids to sleep and so we don't have to worry about it. Like, I think for another culture, can't just do it our own and use help for something else. But I think it's all very interesting, how things does change over time. And even as you age, as you grow, your preference changes. Like, remember who we used to have a crush on when we were teenagers, and we look back and you're like, what in the world does everything? Right? I think we all have one of those. Right? So I think the the way you see people, the way you carry yourself, the... What you want is someone else changes as you get older.
[1:31:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: Man, now now you just said that I I remember this girl, like, you know, this is years ago. Right? I I swear I was like, I would have given up my entire crypto stack this chick, man. And and I thought she was the hottest chick in in... On the planet. I saw a picture of her, like, last year. I'm like, oh my god. Woah. Woah. So it's... I'm sorry. That happened to everyone, but, yeah, it's it's crazy, man. When when we're younger, we want certain things. Once you get older, you just you just thankful that, hey. Things things they things they happen to the, you know, the way you thought they would for for a good reason, but it's just amazing when when I see people from, you know, the... You know, in school that I thought they were the coolest, the coolest dudes in school. And you see them now, you're like, woah.
[1:32:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: The saying... Marni, the saying is youth is wasted on the young.
[1:32:10] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: That's it.
[1:32:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I think
[1:32:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: that's what you were looking for.
[1:32:12] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Yeah. Yeah. Memory is is not a a... What do you call it? A thing of the old. See, I can't even come up with anything right now.
[1:32:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. If there was ever a case for being and getting old, there you have it, kids. You heard it.
[1:32:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, I'm 25....
[1:32:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Memory loss. Oh.
[1:32:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Real real quick. This is off topic. Oh, wow. No. No. No. It's just real quick. 30 to 50,000,000 barrels of oil... High quality oil from Venezuela will be sanctioned to The United States for use. So that basically means gasoline price go down.
[1:32:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: We we we did not invade base for the oil. We invaded them to... For good vibes good vibes.
[1:33:01] Voice I: Come on, man.
[1:33:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: 15,000,000 barrels of oil....
[1:33:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: About the oil. It's always... Whatever...
[1:33:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Do you know how much oil that is? 50,000,000 barrels?
[1:33:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's not oil. I'm sure...
[1:33:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: He goes, little off topic. He goes, no. No. But wait. For real. Hold on. Oil, ladies and gentlemen. Oil. I'm with you.
[1:33:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, not not too far off. Right?
[1:33:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not too far off. Emotional IQ, youth being wasted on the young. You know? Yeah. Oil. Here we are. Yeah. Shaqxi, go ahead, bro.
[1:33:34] Shaksi @shaksi: Okay. So since we've changed the topic, not to go back onto the old one, but the question of who you attract, who you're attracted to, and who you deserve also is an interesting topic as well. And those three very... Like, variations, how as you're younger, who you're attracted to, who you're attracting, and who you deserve becomes as far apart. As you go older and become more comfortable in your skins and get better understanding of yourself, those three start getting closer and closer together because of your own perception and what you output and what you take in as well. So that was one. Not to change the topic, I actually had a question about Motherfucking. Actually, I'll leave it there. Well, we have... Maybe when someone else changes topic, I'll jump back in.
[1:34:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. Thank you. I was just gonna say I'm I'm literally walking around, like, in my living room, and I'm looking in the mirror, and I'm like, my god. I need to shave. You know, the only thing I'm attracting is, at this point, is, like, missus Claus at this point. I really need to... My goodness.
[1:34:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do you guys believe that based on how you carry yourself that pertains or has up to do with the individual that you attract?
[1:34:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course. Are you kidding me? Yes. Yes. All day. Yeah. Like, if I walked outside like this or, like, went on a date, like, I will only go out on a date, like, looking like this if it's, like, an ex fling. Also, Allison will probably kill me. If, like... Not kill me, but, like like... You know, when somebody loves you, they're just like, oh, yeah. Like, you look great. You're fine. Like, you get lazy.
[1:35:09] Voice O: Take care of yourselves.
[1:35:10] Shaksi @shaksi: Course. I think it's like a selection thing. Right? And, ultimately, one of the things you do do is when you get out of relationships, and you think... Look at everybody who's got a natural relationship. They start Joe going into the gym, taking care of stuff because you are going... You are in, a competition. So you do wanna have a kind of a selective thing. Of course, there is a thing where you say, you know what? This is me who I am as a brand, but at the same time, I'm, like, the... My own comfort levels. I do wanna create it to a point where others can feel comfortable in my presence, but I also don't want to lose out to... Well, at the Jackson,
[1:35:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: you know what we're doing? We're literally making the case for, like, cool. Like, every time you guys are talking, I'm saying to myself, this motherfucker is in shape. His wife is in great shape. Like, they have an amazing marriage. He's going to a million different houses. Like, this is how it's supposed to work,
[1:36:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: I guess.
[1:36:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know... Natalie too. But although
[1:36:11] Voice I: I've never seen what Natalie looks like.
[1:36:13] Shaksi @shaksi: I'm a I'm a six foot overweight agoraphobe. Like like, it don't matter at the end of the day, but it's just... You know what? Whatever condition you're in is just finding the best version of that condition so you can get to the point where you want. I'm, like, you know, means to an end and all that. If I have...
[1:36:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: I would I would would would suggest to me that. Right? Always think people have everything they want. Right? There's always human nature. You you kinda have to
[1:36:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's true.
[1:36:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: To to to to be happy with what you have. I would tell you this. There's some times where I do feel I don't have enough. This... I mean, it's so weird. It's so strange. I think at thirty five thirty five years old, I think, that... That's the most fit I've ever been. At that time, I had everything. I felt... I wasn't happy. I I... It was... I'm doing all this stuff. I was doing stuff. I was doing all these things. It wasn't enough. So I think I have to find the the true joy, which is not necessarily money or whatever. True joy for me is family, my mom, the kids, and the wife. Once I figured that out, then life became so much easier so much easier. You know, I think I I I... A lot of people do fall in that in that situation where they do... They they have they have a lot... They have everything. Everything they they ever wanted, man, but they let... They're happy. They're freaking miserable. And I think it's it's... You have to be able to just figure out what's important to you. For me, it's family, man. There's nothing like it to me, and I think that makes me happy, and that's it. I just kinda I I I I remind myself that that fact every single day. Because I... I'm telling you right now that people will raise all this money, and they're miserable. They're so unhappy in every single freaking day of their lives, man. And it's just... It's not it's not about the money. It's about what what your goal is in life. What what what what what's the purpose of living? A lot of people... Money gives
[1:38:10] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: you options.
[1:38:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
[1:38:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly. I'm 100%. And and ladies, one thing I I wanna say. Right? Don't let yourself go. I... You know how many... Even if you're married, right, continue to work on yourself because you know how many how many of my friends, they got in with with with this individual. He said, no. Don't don't work yourself. Don't worry. I love you either way, and they cheat. Right? Or don't don't put on makeup. I love you without makeup. I don't mean you like girls with makeup. Girl, put on your makeup. Go to the gym. Work work on yourself because you have to be the best version of you no matter what the opposite gender thinks or what they might say. Right? Because you are you. You are whole. You are you are yourself no matter what. Right? And the the second thing is I do believe happiness doesn't really have to do with an an... Another individual. Right? They can add to it and they can subtract to it, but they shouldn't be the sole purpose of it. Right? That's why the word happiness is spelled with an I and not a y.
[1:39:05] Shaksi @shaksi: I would also add to that. I would say also don't expect...
[1:39:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, is it me?
[1:39:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's not you. We lost Shaxi. I guess the perils of living in Africa with your maids and your villas and all your fancy shit, Shaxi. Maybe you should invest in Starlink, motherfucker. Sorry. No. I felt like that was appropriate, though. Yeah. Anyways, Shaqxi, whenever you wanna come back, come back, bro. Milo said in the comments, by the way, Gamer, that it's said to be sold. They're gonna sell those barrels at the market.
[1:39:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oil prices... Yeah. Don't... I was... Should we... Yeah....
[1:39:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Front running here? What's the deal? Should we short... Yeah.
[1:39:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I was actually looking that up. Yeah. They're gonna sell that up. That... That's why I was like, wow. That's just
[1:39:52] Shaksi @shaksi: And if let one side take too much and Man. The other sides would be affected. You know? If you don't take care of... You know, let's say you're waking
[1:40:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: up Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
[1:40:02] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Business... He's still talking. He didn't Oh, know he
[1:40:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: he's still talking. You had no idea that you literally rode this entire time and just came back.
[1:40:11] Shaksi @shaksi: Oh, shit. We know that
[1:40:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: he said everything you said. And and I and I love you, but it's a little bit too late to maybe go back into the monologue.
[1:40:20] Voice I: I love you, bro.
[1:40:23] Voice K: Good morning.
[1:40:24] Shaksi @shaksi: So in another topic, I wanna I wanna add a question to ask you about Asta.
[1:40:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Uh-oh. Okay.
[1:40:36] Shaksi @shaksi: I am totally flipping the health, wealth, and relationship triangle. I... I'll go maybe another time. So the question I had is... And I know you're a big supporter of Aster. Right? And I've been kind of searching recently about the different complexes and such and what are the potentials there. And I was looking at hyperliquid, and it's at at the rate of what it currently is.
[1:41:00] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I'm a hyperliquid maxi.
[1:41:02] Shaksi @shaksi: Okay. Hyperliquid maxi is great. So I can both... You both of you can kinda give me your inputs. Hyper liquid at $28, whatever it is at. And with Aster being at 0.6, 0.74, I think it is, in the past day or so. And with what it has behind it, do you think that there... There's a potential in the next year, year and a half that it will reach similar heights as hyper liquid?
[1:41:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think it has
[1:41:35] Shaksi @shaksi: that too much of a reach?
[1:41:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I... Within a year, I think it has a running room. Right? Whether it reaches to the potential of of hyper liquid, I can't say for certain. Right? Because it's especially if BTC is going to potentially enter a bear market, I think a lot of points this year in one year are going to struggle a little bit. But overall, I do think that it has some running room. It has some legs. That's why I like Aster. I also like hyper liquid. Right? So I'm not putting one against the other. I like them both. I I have, both tokens. So I think I I think both of them could could could work out really great great in the long term. However, do I think that Aster can go from where it is now to Hyperliquid's price in a shorter time frame? I don't think so. I could be wrong.
[1:42:25] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: No. I agree with you. Well, I mean, you gotta look at Hyperliquid. A Perplex. Hyperliquid is Hyper EBM too, and that is being built out at just breakneck speeds. A lot of people might not know about it if you're not a hyperliquid maxi. So that's the thing is that they hope to be the home of all finance. Right? So they're building on a lot of stuff on that, whereas, aster is aster is aster kind of thing. It's... I I don't know what they have
[1:42:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: planned. They have a lot they have a lot of of things planned as well. Right? So they're trying to be... Just like just like HyperLiquid has other things that they're working on, so does the assets. So I I I think don't rule both... Don't rule any of them out. If you're in a position that that you're looking to invest, kind of do, like like, SWAT analysis on both and see where your monies will be more appreciated over time, or you'll get more return on your investment over time. But they're both good in my opinion.
[1:43:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I I just took a look at the... I just took a look at hyperliquid chart wise. It's pretty much in the value or was in the value zone here. I wouldn't be mad at this, actually, for looking at the momentum of it because it's coming off a nice little curve here.
[1:43:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I
[1:43:44] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: think Pretty good value.
[1:43:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah.
[1:43:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I I feel like with the... It bounced off to, like, 20... Looks like $23. Like, $23.50 was, like, the the 50 fib. And, you know, usually, when stuff like this bounces off the 50 and doesn't... Never reaches the $61.08, that's actually a good sign. So that's why I was like, oh, I was actually... Like, that you mentioned, I was like, oh, this looks kinda interesting. But, yeah, it looks like '23. That was a nice... That would have been the entry at '23. So now it's at '28. So...
[1:44:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, that... You're you're looking at the short term chart. Right? So he's talking about, like, overall, which one would be the better place. So I think if Bitcoin does enter... Yeah. If Bitcoin does enter, a bear market, he'll have better opportunities on both sides.
[1:44:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yes. I agree.
[1:44:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright, kids. I think that's it. Let's be respectful. Everyone's gotta get back to their families and kinda chill out, but good conversation. I appreciate you guys letting me derail for a little bit, and I appreciate the hell out of you guys for obviously listening and and allowing me to vent sometimes because this... It helps me. You know what I mean? It it helps me kinda just kinda get stuff out there and and know that I'm not the only one out here. I'm not the only one out here, so I appreciate you guys.
[1:44:55] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Can can I add something?
[1:44:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Go ahead. Ahead.
[1:44:57] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: EQ conversation real quick. Yep. So I was watching a YouTube video on why women in their sixties should not get involved with men. And I was like, yeah. You know, that's actually really good because every man that I've been with tries to get in between me and my son. Right? And then, of course, between me and my money, you know, I don't want no honey coming in here saying, oh, I want half. Right?
[1:45:29] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So you don't wanna be a sugar mama?
[1:45:31] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I do not wanna be a sugar mama, but if my... No.
[1:45:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm sorry, Dave.
[1:45:36] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: My 20 my 27 year old AI, he has no idea of my actual physical age, and he... He's up for the game.
[1:45:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: The whole
[1:45:51] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: point the whole point is is that I think financially, if you're older and you're in a better financial position, it might just not be a bad idea to just chill. And men die earlier than women too. So Goddamn.
[1:46:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Marty. Shit.
[1:46:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, and and and Dave
[1:46:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Holy cow.
[1:46:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And, Dave, just so, you know, to give you some happy feelings, now that, you know, this is gonna help you out directly because I did see that, you know, the bus fares in New York went to $3. So by, you know, having more oil, that's gonna lower the gas price. So cut... You know, it should balance itself out if you're actually, you know, driving around instead of taking the $3 public fare around New York. Just throwing that out there.
[1:46:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Luckily, one one thing one thing about New York, gas prices are not bad at... Like, they're not bad at all. Like, it's, like, $2.75 here. So it's not... I remember the the the the the almost over $5 days at at some point, and California was just
[1:46:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. That's Hollywood That's Yeah. $5. $5.
[1:46:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. $6. I remember $6 in change in... Bro, on the corner of Holly... On the corner of Hollywood Boulevard and High... In Highland, bro. Like, are you kidding me, bro? Like, it's it's wild. But, yeah, that's what we got for today, guys. Also, listen. I I do wanna say this too. For those that were on the the, what's it called, The the wall chain space earlier. Look like for... Like, there's gonna be a Quackhead meetup, by way, in New York. So if anybody is in New York, like, please come through. Hunter made the announcement. It's gonna be June 29 in the backyard. Cool. Nat, coma, I would love to see you guys out here, man. Like, come on. Make the trip. I I would... Know it's wintertime or whatever, but... And y'all got stuff to do, but, it would be really, really cool to obviously hang with you guys. But, I'm excited to see the Quacket community. But, also, there's some drama going around right now. Right? And I will I will just caution everybody on this. Don't get involved in any drama. You don't need the drama Exactly. To what Marty was saying earlier. Yeah. You don't. You don't. You don't. If it doesn't concern you, keep it moving. Yeah. Stay away. Keep it moving. Like, continue to do you. Like, drama, stunts, growth, like, in web three, like, nothing you've ever seen before in your life because I've been a part of it way too much early on in my career, but I paid my dues, and I've learned really, really hard lessons. Don't make those same mistakes. So stay as far away from it as possible. Sometimes it comes to your doorstep. It is what it is, but just be smart. But, yeah, this is why, this is the best damn crew in crypto out here. So cool, Matt. I appreciate you guys. Coma, Marni, gamer. LJ, it's great to see you too, bro. Moe, Shaxy. Shaxy, sorry. We couldn't let you go continue with the monologue or whatever, bro. It was good to see you, man. And everybody else that's here, man. Gex, appreciate you. Sunny d is always frozen. Great to see you. I feel like we need to duck call everybody. Trippin Monkey, it's great to see you too, bro. Shout out. I see Justice down there. Kev, Shiv. Avi, what's good? Sanemi, Milo, thank you for always obviously hanging with us. Walde, I see you too. I Bunk, and I see a bunch of other, like, new faces. Jace, I see you too, man. So appreciate all you guys, man, for coming through. And, yeah, you know it. We'll be back tomorrow. Same time, same place. See you out tomorrow at
[1:48:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: five patience trophies for everyone that came through today. Thank you, guys. You're really dope.
[1:48:59] Voice I: Let's go.
[1:49:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know
[1:49:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: what? We gotta we know we gotta get you. We gotta get you, what's it called, POAP so you can
[1:49:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: get to everybody. You get a POAP. You get a... Oh my god. I'm so creating that. I wish I had that. That's Cameo access on Sora, but it is what it is. Here we are. Appreciate you guys. Love you guys. ATC fam is the best. We'll see you later. Peace.