The space opened with light-hearted banter between Dave @DCBK2LA and NatNat @Natnatx007 about silver prices and their long-running prediction market bet, followed by welcomes to co-hosts and guests including Agent Naeem, Bread @_ToastMalone, MARNI MELROSE @macangel, Landy @CryptoLandy, and X Factor from the Zyber team. The group discussed the New York Stock Exchange's move toward 24/7 tokenized trading and instant settlement, the launch of NYSE Texas, and the broader implications for liquidity, volatility, and retail access. Conversation then shifted to the Zyber ecosystem, the Lumira NFT giveaway, Dock Markets waitlist challenges, upcoming integrations via the MCP, and the evolving X article monetization system aimed at generating quality data for Grok. The episode closed with macro insights from Landy on rising Treasury yields, potential stagflation risks, and the ongoing monetary power struggle between the US and its Western allies. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.
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# All Things Crypto: @Xyberinc Lumira NFT Giveaway LIVE! | 2026-01-19 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1OdKrOBYqRkGX | status: approved # Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed. [0:00:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: All things crypto. [0:00:08] Voice K: Things crypto. [0:03:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I started, like, thirty seconds early. What's up, everybody? Hope y'all doing good. Happy Monday. Yeah. This is how we get our day. It's how we get our week started, man. We got a good one today. Hope everybody's doing well. Hope everybody had a great weekend. It was a wonderful prediction market weekend for me this weekend, which was amazing. And today, we are going to give away a Lumira NFT live on all things crypto. Who [0:03:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: gives themselves a round of applause? Me. You gotta love it. You know what I mean? And, also, also, also, let me just get a quick updated price. Last I saw was $94 and say, oh my god. Look. It's over $95 now. $95.06 for an ounce of silver. This is crazy work out here. But [0:03:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: And we did say that there's a [0:04:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, here comes. [0:04:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Going to 100. Okay? [0:04:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here it comes. Here it comes. The hope is serious, ladies and gentlemen. This [0:04:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: so energy when it goes down to 50. [0:04:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: But let me tell you something. It is looking worse and worse for you by the day. Like, you are... According to Landy's law of averages, like, $100 is a lot further away from $50 than it is a $130. Last I checked my mathematics. Okay? Alright. I might not be the best at math in public. Some other people might be terrible at math also, but, hey. Listen. Run the numbers, puppet. Run the numbers. And shout out to Naeem who jumped on magic hour with me today at the last minute. Naeem, shout out to you, bro. It was a great, great, great episode. But, guys, do me a favor. Obviously, in order to be eligible for this, you have to make sure that you are commenting, you are liking, and you are re quote tweeting this. Okay? You need to quote tweet the tweet... The space. Okay? We're obviously gonna be talking some Zyber stuff. I saw that Zeet's obviously been putting out some payouts. I see ADI chain obviously did a few of their things. But before we kinda get into into the specifics, let me say hello to the one cohost that's always on time and the other one who is obviously fired every episode. Natalie, I love you for being on time every single week, so thank you. What's up? What's up, Nat? [0:05:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: What's up, David? You know what? I am taking it in the chin, but at the end of but the end of the day, it is all worth it because it creates amazing content, and I love it. Everyone keeps tagging me on silver prices all day long, guys. I see it. It's like... It's the first thing I see when I open my eyes. It's the last thing I see when I close my eyes, or then I get it in my DM because they send it to me all the time. [0:05:49] Voice K: But it's going to [0:05:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: be so beautiful when it goes down to 50, and I can say, I told you so again and again and again. [0:05:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Blah blah blah. That's all I hear was... You know [0:06:00] Voice K: I mean? Like, what are the... [0:06:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think you said that one time where, like, the Charlie Brown were like... Like, that's all I hear. And then look at the chart, $95.06. Goo. Don't I even... And that's not... I'm not even looking at what it is in China. You know, the silver prices on the base [0:06:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Because that doesn't count. Because it doesn't count. [0:06:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm just saying. It could be an indicator. You know? Like, it could be an indicator. By the way, I am open if you'd like to, like, negotiate some sort of a settlement before it gets to a 130 where you can, like, bow out gracefully and just, a short tweet, maybe not like this whole elaborate thing that I'm gonna write for you. So let me know. Like, that's on the table if you'd like to do that. You know? You let me know. Yeah. [0:06:44] Voice K: Guys, shout out to It's [0:06:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: like selling your ticket early. I'm in the prediction market mode. You know what [0:06:52] Voice K: I mean? Like, you what? [0:06:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Take my win. [0:06:53] Voice K: Because I [0:06:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: am still a little shook, Matt. Right? [0:06:55] Voice K: I know. Fuck. Leave me alone. [0:06:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: You're trying to find a way out too. I see. [0:07:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I see it. Yeah. I'm trying to go out on top with a dub. You know what I mean? It's been a minute since I got one. So the fuck. God. Sorry. Well, what the hell? You know? Oh my god. Nat, you'd be so proud. You've literally conditioned everybody out here. Nat, I'm always live on stream today. He's like... He said, fuck. And I was like he's like, woah. Can I curse in here? And I'm like, yeah. Yeah, bro. There's no nat nat around. Like, you're fine. It's literally just me. Like, you're good. Like [0:07:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: I did listen, and I do have a a fine that I'd like to give out to the both of you. Okay? [0:07:30] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. We we we can have [0:07:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: a backdate fines. I'm not... I'm chosen or not, but you're not a part of. This is crazy work. You can't do that. You can't do that. But, Marni, let me say what's up to Marni quickly also. Marni, how did your trading space go to... We gotta coordinate on some time so we don't overlap also, but I wanna figure out how we can do joint stuff in in the future. But how did it go? How are you? [0:07:51] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Yeah. It went well. I'm still in it. So we're... It's one of those days. The market is kinda weird right now. So what do you do? Right? But, I would love to have you on there. That would be freaking awesome. Yeah. Come to it one day. We we gotta... You gotta show me how to do multiple people and all that because I'm still all new to this. So... [0:08:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dave on a trading space. That's one thing I have to see this. It's it's a it's a crypto trading space. Right? [0:08:23] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Yeah. It's Hyperliquid trading perks on Hyperliquid. [0:08:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: You guys use technical analysis on the space. Right? Yeah. Mhmm. [0:08:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chill out first off. Okay? It's me investing in Marnie's vault. Alright? I'm not live trading. Okay? I will never give any of you that satisfaction to watch me live trade. There is no way. I'm just putting money into Marnie's vault, and I'm watching what Marnie does, and I'm just piggybacking off of that. Okay? Marnie makes money, I make money. [0:08:48] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: That's that's fair. Yes. We both make money when we make money. [0:08:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Done and done. It's the easy easy win that I can that I can take from this. But, guys, we're gonna have a lot to talk about. Let me say what's up tonight. Know Naeem came up. Naeem, what's up, bro? Oh, also, wait. Real quick, Marni, just so you know, StreamYard now lets you pull clips. I'm literally looking at, like, frosted chip. Naeem, it's great. There's so many different, like, clip... It literally pulled, like, 20 different clips from the livestream today that I'm just literally gonna put, like... And there's, like, a couple that have, like, a crown that say high virality. I don't know why Naeem's in all of them. That [0:09:25] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: on the advanced level one or the core? [0:09:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. Let me see. My account account setting... Do I go to account settings maybe? [0:09:37] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Maybe in your subscriptions, it would show which plan you're on. [0:09:42] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Let's me see. Subscriptions. He doesn't know whether he's on the premium. [0:09:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: I said, bro, you know what it is? I'm literally on... Like, I share an account with VV Magic. So when we started this, and all I know is, like, when we got tater to sponsor magic hour, I just had sent her, like, $500, and I was just like, yo. Like, pay for the whole year of, like, the StreamYard. And I think she pays, [0:10:01] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: like, fifty years. Yeah. Core has AI clips. [0:10:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Boom. There you go. [0:10:06] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: See? Damn. Because that's automated. [0:10:08] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: It's just Core. [0:10:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Naeem, the second the space was... The second the stream was over, it literally... There was a pop up that popped up on StreamYard that literally said generate clips, and I literally generated all of them. I can download, like, the whole... Like, each one now, and I can generate even new ones if I wanted to. So it's pretty cool. I guess we'll see exactly how it works out, [0:10:27] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: but I guess... Cool. Can you upload previous videos to get the clips? [0:10:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I would honestly recommend doing... I don't know what they're using in the background or if this is their proprietary shit, but you know what I use? Opus. Yeah. Opus Agent [0:10:40] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: is fine. Just wondering if I could get rid of Opus and just use this. That's that's what I'm wondering. [0:10:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I hear you. I hear you. Give it a shot. See how it works. [0:10:49] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I will. I will. Thank you. [0:10:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. You got it. You got it. Got it. Name, what's good, bro? You good? Long time no speak, motherfucker. [0:10:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. Good, man. Good, man. Yeah. I found that fascinating because, obviously, there's Jonas creating that live frame, so he might be getting cooked. I think a lot of other platforms will be looking to do some stuff like this. But, yeah, it'll be interesting. I need to check that out. And, yeah, I was just looking. There's a lot of stuff going on on the timeline. I was just looking at... What's his name? Will. He did undisclosed shill of that trove, and then he's got slashed on ethos. And I'm like, oh, yeah. This is this is... I've not been a fan of it for a minute. And, yeah, this is gonna show how it's not a really a credible reputation layer, essentially, because you have a popular KOL who's literally shilled something without disclosure, which is illegal in many jurisdictions. Someone's created a... Because they've scammed. Right? I don't know if anybody have known what they've done on on a few fronts. We talked a little bit about it on the stream, didn't we, Dave? And... Yeah. So they they slashed him. And then, obviously, this is impacting, like, 700 plus users if the slash is successful, so to speak. So people are talking about defending it and, you know, then does it imply that there's incentives to slash on the back of trying to protect your reputation? Because if it is successfully slashed and you've supported the slash, your credibility is not damaged. So, yeah, it's fucked up. Like, it's it's so funny. It's actually hilarious. But, yeah, otherwise, all good for me. [0:12:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good, man. Good. Good. Good. I'm glad you're here, bro. It's good to have you up here, brother. Let me say what's up to bread. Bread, I saw we got some dark docks and rewind. I saw we got some dock markets news released out today. What's good, my bro? You good? [0:12:37] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo. GM gang. Just heading back to the house now. Went and got my hairs did today. Feels good. And, yeah, man, just closely monitoring the the situation on the dock market agents now. And, yeah, man, we've got some serious green lights happening. So ship some things officially over to the team today. And so gonna be chatting with them this week, and, yeah, stay tuned because this shit's starting to cook. [0:13:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. I can't wait to see it, man. I cannot wait to see it. Amazing. Well, let's get cooking, man. Oh, let me... I hope you're good, bro. Nat, big news out of the NYSE today, saying, hey. We're now moving over. We're tokenizing everything. So, apparently, daddy Larry from BlackRock has literally been influencing everybody. We knew that this was kinda coming. Seems... I mean, this is really, like, really, really quick, but I think, like, everybody is now kind of embracing the chain and this whole tokenization aspect. Nat, you wanna talk to us about tokenizing the world with the New York Stock Exchange? [0:13:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So from... I actually dug into this a little bit earlier with... On the data space that I was in. So this is going to be a completely new platform. Right? And and what it's going to do is that it's going to allow the twenty four seven trading of the... Of the, like, quote, unquote, stock market assets. Right? So as it stands right now in the stock market, there's a call of thumb. Like, the market closes at at 04:00. Granted, what they have started doing recently, I believe they they started doing it last year or late twenty twenty four, is that certain options expire at 04:15, like zero zero DTE, spy options, and QQ options. They have what's considered a late close. Right? So now with this twenty four seven market, we're able to trade around the clock like we do with Bitcoin or other crypto assets. The other important point to know about this is in the stock market, as it stands right now, the settlement times. Right? So it's t plus t plus one or even t plus two depending on which platform you're using. Right? So this allows for instant settlement being that, you know, obviously, stablecoin is going to be a part of it. Right? And this goes all the way back, and it... See how it all ties in beautifully, right, with, what was written in the genius act and and and allowing, stablecoins because because of those guardrails or those things that are currently being in place, it allows for situations like this or market movements like this to happen. Right? So now we don't have to wait until the mark... The opening bell at 09:30AM. We'll be able to trade around the clock as far as I understand. Granted, it's a platform that they're still working on, and I'm sure we'll we'll we'll know more information as we get closer to the release date. But this is very interesting, and I think, you know, this could be seen as a big win for for the stock market or for those that that do, like, day trading. We shall see how it goes. What do you think of it, Dave? Because I know you you you you don't trade the stock market too much. What do you think of it? [0:15:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, look. At at the end of day, like, as... Like, from what I was reading and what I'm seeing now, so I'm kinda just catching up on it, it says not a pilot. This is a planned venue that could operate twenty four seven, which I think they came out and they announced it wasn't gonna be twenty four seven. It was gonna be, like, twenty three five, right, or something like that in terms of, like, the tokenization and how this is gonna work, Like like, what the platform's gonna be. But look, I think any... Like, the... Like, if ICE... Right? Like, the intercontinental exchange, which, by the way, if you guys remember, the monster $2,000,000,000 investment that Polymarket received was from [0:16:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: From ICE. Yep. [0:16:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Right? So, like, we talk... Like, I literally... Nat, do you remember I I sound like you, but this is crazy. Maybe we are this freaking smart, but, like, if you guys remember You called it. Literally the one saying, like, I think the Polymarket investment is literally just getting the users that are... That they're now going to funnel into their entire trading platform because now you have an entire user base of, like, your everyday... It's almost like new retail that's coming in. [0:16:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. [0:16:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: And it's like, hey. You can do... You can execute these trades on Apple and and Tesla and Nvidia the same way that you did, probably even easier, you know, buying shares on the bills, womp womp, over on Polymarket. You know what I'm saying? Like, that... That's the deal. [0:17:13] Moni @monitalan: And [0:17:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: and... Yeah. And when I look at this, it's like, look. The the t one, two, like, instant settlement is is is the goal here. Right? Like, that eliminates and cost cut and saves so much money. But what this is also gonna do, I think, is you're now talking about massive massive pools of liquidity from some of, like, the biggest money in this space. Right? Like, you're talking the biggest banks, and it says here, ICE is working with BNY Mellon, Citi to support tokenized deposits and liquidity across time zones. That's a huge, huge thing. [0:17:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And as it and as it stands right now, like, they are tokenized assets. Right? But they're still, you know, tied into the actual market time. Right? So this completely changes the game to everything that we thought. And I think in my opinion... And I feel like we have Landy up, and I would like to know what Landy says on on this. Right? But in my opinion, it'll change the way we see markets in general. [0:18:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. Puppet, welcome, bro. I know we talked about, obviously, the Texas exchange, obviously, being considered or being built as we as we speak. I actually don't even know the update on that by the, obviously, like, the hedge fund giants. I know you mentioned in the chat because NYSE is definitely afraid to not be the first mover on this. Talk to me, man. Like, first off, what's good? How are you? And then give me your take on this this intensity, bro. [0:18:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, hello. Thank you for having me, Nat Nat TM. [0:18:35] Voice K: I just told her there. [0:18:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: I see what you did there, Landy. [0:18:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is that a wolf joke? Is that a fuck... Is that a... You guys are bringing wolf joke to the ATG? [0:18:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is this is beyond wolf spaces. This is a nagging joke. [0:18:47] Voice H: It better. [0:18:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: As I'm literally in two spaces at once. [0:18:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. There'd be no cheat. Listen. Okay? There is no cheating on ATC. Okay? You can't just... It's like literally me saying, baby, I'm here. I'm present on FaceTime. Okay? Well, I'm literally out with my mistress. You know what I'm saying? Like, doing... I mean, is it is [0:19:07] Bread @_ToastMalone: it cheating if he's telling us, though? [0:19:09] Voice K: Yeah. Yeah. [0:19:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. This is informing sense. Yes. [0:19:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: And, technically, you know what, Landy? I have you back. I have you back. Technically, it's two different time zones. Right? [0:19:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. My god. I've seen this dude. You're condoning this cheating. Like like, it's not... I can't believe you're giving participation trophies to cheat. [0:19:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: I've seen him call down.... Spaces. It's spaces. [0:19:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, I I often think to myself, if Dave would just put out a calendar over the weekend, I wouldn't be caught in these situations where I forgot that the time zone is over. [0:19:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Such a piece of shit. You're such a piece of shit. You're such a piece [0:19:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: of shit. I freaking love you, brother. Look. Right now, you know, the the, news about... This is this is actually kind of a sudden move for the New York Stock Exchange. Right? This is something that we know that they've been testing out since 2018. And, I forget. Who did they partner with in 2018? Maybe somebody here can help me out with... I had it in top of my mind, but this is what happens when you're when you're with your mistress. So you forget the names all the time. You just start mixing them up. [0:20:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was it... I mean, this is way back when where NYSE became Arca Group, and then, I don't remember that you... They partnered with somebody on the blockchain side. [0:20:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. That's... I'm trying to remember who they partnered with at the time, though. [0:20:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, good. I'll look for it, but go ahead. Continue. [0:20:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I want to say I want to say that it was, 2018. I wanna say it was backed, but I don't remember if that if that was confirmed or not at the time or if I'm making that up in my head. But that's that's what I that's what I think I remember. But, look, this is something I think, obviously, we knew was coming. Right? We've talked about this coming. And we also know that Texas is gonna be booting up. But one of the more interesting things that I was noting about some of the, comments from Larry Fink recently was that he had mentioned about supporting this move from Texas and linking... Obviously, you have to link up with the other exchanges. Right? But but providing support to those exchanges during this transition. So I'm wondering if there's going to be some sort of underlying technology that's being shared, to facilitate this, and if this is more of a collaborative project to kind of expand out. Because I don't know if the Texas exchange is gonna be able... Obviously, right off the right off the rip, it wouldn't be able to do all of the same things that you can do with, the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ, and the rest. Right? But I think this is a game changer, and I think this is going to... One, like you had mentioned, Dave, this is a big move to save a lot of money. Right? And, of course, don't don't think that that means that anybody here is saving a lot of money. No. No. No. These... It saves a lot of money for these companies and and the and the financial industry. Right? Which, you know, in general is gonna go to line pockets. Maybe maybe some of that also helps with liquidity. Does definitely help with market making. I can tell you that. The the other thing that I know I know is going to happen is this is going to provide for a lot more liquidity grabs. That means that we're gonna get a lot more lower term time frame volatility in the markets as players, come into options expiration dates. And, if you're an OTD trader or a zero date to execution trader to expiry or execution. Why do I say execution, not expiry? Because most of those traders are getting executed, like, at gunpoint [0:23:08] Voice K: because they are [0:23:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: just losing their butts to trying to play the the zero date expiration. So they are are probably gonna get absolutely destroyed, and this is gonna change the way that the options markets work. I think that that, it may even cause a bit of an unwind in the options markets as as, firms start to figure this out and how... And what this really means longer term. So it's a new world. If they... And there's... The... I'm gonna tell you right now, a lot of those shops, a lot of those hedge funds, they're not... They think they're prepared. Oh, no. No. No. No. Oh, boy. They are not prepared. [0:23:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: So, ladies, listen to this. So the Texas Stock Exchange, for those that don't know, obviously, is being built by these hedge fund giants. Right? A new national... I think this is probably gonna be more competition for, like, Nasdaq directly as opposed to NYSE, but maybe maybe both. But it's backed by BlackRock, Citadel, Schwab, JPMorgan, and a bunch of others. They've raised over a 250,000,000 and have SEC approval to operate. They plan on beginning operations in 2026. It says intended to compete on factors like technology stack fees, governance, and regional appeal. Check this out. NYSE Texas. So this was ICE's defense in... Well, I didn't know this. Rather than be sidelined, ICE, the parent of the New York Stock Exchange, has reincorporated its Chicago operation as NYSE Texas and launched it from Dallas. This gives ICE both a regional footprint and a strategic hedge should trading or regulatory pressures like state tax shift or transfer taxes make Texas more attractive than New York, which I think is hella fucking smart. That is such a boss move because they're like, these guys are going there because these are the guys that have the lobby weight. And they're like, you know what? Like, we're gonna incorporate that. If that's where you're gonna be, that's where we're gonna be. And it says, I see the [0:25:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Duality [0:25:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is also... I think it's it's... Can be seen as defensive, but I think it's also collaborative. It's just a smart move. Right? Like you said, it's a really smart move. I think that it... On the... On its surface, it can be, seen as a defensive move, but it's more collaborative. We're we're we're skating to where the puck is going, not where the puck is. And this is also something that I'm pretty intimately familiar with, in in Texas right now. I don't often talk about personal stuff, but, you know, I've I've been involved in some of the some of the work that's going on there through some firms in terms of advising. And one of the bigger things that we're seeing in Texas is Texas is making its play to basically take everything from Chicago and New York. Like, this is, the the the Texas way, like, the mentality. Like, when you talk to the movers and shakers there, like, they are fully set on we are getting... We're gonna do this the Texas way. We're gonna make this... We're gonna take this from these cities that they view as Democrat strongholds, and this has... This is all political, by the way. And we are going to, take it from the the communist style financial policies and business policies in the way that these straight... These states are treating corporations and and and people in in their view is, like, this is their financial revolution. Right? This is their, their Alamo, and, hopefully, they don't get overrun kind of thing. Right? So for those that don't know the history of the Alamo and Santa Ana and and the first president and last president of Texas, I suggest you do a little bit of research on that because it's actually very interesting. So it's kind of embedded in the Texas culture. Right? And, there is a lot of money there. There's a lot of energy there. There's a lot of everything there. So it makes sense to do this when they're doing it. I think they know that they need to get it done probably first half of twenty twenty six in terms of laying out all of the framework and then starting that implementation back half of twenty twenty six headed into the actual midterms. I don't... They they don't wanna get hamstrung by any kind of changeover in in the congress because they... You know, that that could mean that certain, friendly players within the senate, banking finance committee and many of these other oversight boards could be shifting. Right? And they wanna kinda outrun that because they know what they're up against. They're up against, up against Lizzie and her crew, and they know what that means. And they they don't wanna give her any kind of room to wiggle. [0:28:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Yeah. I mean, look. I think it's gonna be a really interesting thing to watch develop. Like... But, finally, like, this is what this is what I love is, like, let the Giants fight with the Giants. Right? Like, as opposed to, like, them taking advantage of us the whole time. Go spend your money now and go compete for our dollars, like, amongst the guys that you were kinda hanging out at the freaking Yale Club with in your gold slippers, Jamie Diamond. Good luck. You know? Like, go go fight with these guys now. You know? I don't know. I like this a lot. I think competition at this level, you're gonna see unprecedented amounts of money being spent. And, bro, like, I'm telling you this Polymarket thing, that 2,000,000,000 that I spent, I think, is gonna be the best $2,000,000,000 investment that anybody has ever made in probably anything ever because just the pace at which all this is moving is absolutely crazy. Grant, I don't know what the hell is gonna happen tomorrow, but, yeah, I I I see it. I don't know. I just see it so clearly. But, yeah, Monty, what's up? How are you? I'm [0:29:02] Moni @monitalan: good. I know that I'm fired from my nonpaying job, but I did think I shouldn't speak. I was just gonna say there's a lot of monies here in Texas. [0:29:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Tons of money in Texas. Oh, my ex. [0:29:16] Moni @monitalan: You didn't get my jokes. Remember? Money? Money? [0:29:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Monie? Monie? [0:29:22] Moni @monitalan: He's... I'm not... Just doesn't get it. Help me, guys. Help [0:29:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: me. So I did I I did put this story in in Kigrak, and I and I and I told it to to give me, like, the pros and cons all of this in in in, like, super layman terms. Right? So the pros would be an... A bunch of, like, what we said. Right? So increase accessibility and liquidity, efficiency, speed, transparency, modernization, validity for crypto and the blockchain, right, and broad... Broader market, benefits, including RWAs. But the cons would be, like Andy mentioned, you know, the uncertainty, the regulatory hurdles, competition risk, increased volatility and systemic risk, privacy and compliance burdens. I think this... But you know what? I think it all goes back to, like, what we said. Right? This is chain... This is definitely a game changer. It's going to change the way we trade, the the the way we view mon... Markets and the stock market in general. I mean, I... I'm curious to see how this all plays out. I mean, I'm, like, I'm, like, curious, but also excited, but then also, like, unknown at the same time. Because I've been trading the stock market for many, many years. So I feel like for someone from... Like myself, I'm... Once this comes out and we're able to figure out how we trade, we may have to, you know, go through an adjustment period and adjust our straight... Our trading strategies because of this. [0:30:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat, look. More choice for issuers, more choice for retail. Right? Like, now you're putting, like, real pressure on this legacy infrastructure, and it's like, you either gotta, like, innovate or die out here. That's it. Yeah. [0:31:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's how this works. I agree 100%. And one one thing that I'm looking forward to is sometimes when you trade options, right, you do have to wait until the market opens in order for you to take profit on your position. So... And sometimes we see moves that happen overnight, but they kinda cool off prior to opening. So I'm curious with... Once this takes place and we do see those moves, we're able to take profit right away versus having to wait until the opening. Because sometimes it... Like, the overnight is hot. It's heated. Everything's running, and then the market opens and we... And everything just tanks. Right? So I think this will also put a lot of people in a winning position and give certain traders an edge. [0:31:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's gonna be interesting because, like, one of the biggest advantages I remember that we had. Right? Like, when I when I was working on the trading desk. Right? Like, when you're working on a trading desk as a registered market maker, right, on the TradFi side, the biggest advantage you have... I mean, it's... It... There's so many different ones. Right? Like, between, like, you know, shorting and everything else. But, like, two of the main advantages you had was, obviously, you buy on the bid and you sell on the offer as opposed to the vice versa as a retail, like, buyer. But the other the other deal was we were... Like, the majority of the money that I made, even just when I was, like, an assistant working for Royal Bank... For RBC was ultimately, like, you you... Premarket trading is... Was everything. I was there 07:00. Right? Something gets announced. I remember Delta bankruptcy. Right? And it was just Delta q q q... Delta q. Everything that went bankrupt was q. And we were sitting there at 7AM, like, trading... The majority of my days were made before the market even opened. Right? So it's gonna be really interesting to see how all of this, like, plays out. [0:32:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's exactly why I said that once this opens up, if it does that and if we're able to take profit, it'll give a lot of our... Of a lot of retail traders an edge. Because as it stands, like you said, in order for you to make money off the overnight market or the premarket movement... Because now there's overnight. Right? So stocks, they move, like, two in the morning, three in the morning versus having to wait until, like, 4AM. Right? So I... Yeah. So a lot of these hedge funds, they're able to take, advantage of that movement because of exactly what you said, but now it puts, like, the retail traders and retail investors in a winning position as well. [0:33:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hell, yeah. It's gonna be really... Like, I'm so curious what some of the market maker regulations are gonna be like. Oh, man. I hope we're maybe we're not bringing we're not bringing the crypto market making ethos over to [0:33:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: the trapdoor. Oh, no. [0:33:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I know. I know. I know. But look. I mean, it's not... I'm... I'd be lying if it's something I didn't say I was thinking about. So, yeah, that's definitely something to watch closely because, listen, say whatever you want. Unless you have your own market making team out in crypto that literally cares about your token, these market makers are trading against you point blank period, full stop, end of story. I don't care what exchange it is. Like, yada yada. Like, it... It's just not. Like, bottom line. Like, you... They are trading their book against you as the retail trader. The majority of them. Alright. Maybe you'll have, like, the monster ones that might be okay here and there. But make no mistake. These traders are not real market makers. They have no clue, most of them, what the hell is going on and how to genuinely make a market in some of this shit. So, yeah, really gonna be really interesting to watch. So, guys, if you're just joining in, please do me a favor. Obviously, you see the title. We're giving away a Lumira NFT today, compliments of of the Zyber team, which is really, really dope. The only thing you have to do, I pinned it up to the top. It's the first pinned tweet. All you have to do is like, comment, quote tweet that pinned tweet at the top. Quote tweet. Say something good. Tag Zyber. Tell us... Tag Lumira, whatever you wanna do. But you have to quote tweet that in order to be eligible. There's a point to East Floor, but I would high... If whoever wins this thing, I'm just letting you all know. All of us up here have our NFT stake because of what's to come, and that is... And x factor has told us many times, and I'm glad he's not here because maybe he's putting his pants on there. I don't know where the hell he naked or something somewhere drinking a mojito. Don't know what the hell he just does down there in Miami, but we all have our state, and it gets you a lot of different benefits. Granted, let's keep it real. The Zeke campaign got shut down, so we'll get there. Now it's like [0:35:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, Zeke happened? Zeke put out a statement, though, and I I I don't know if you saw it. [0:35:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: On Zyber? [0:35:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just... So what what's general see. [0:35:25] Moni @monitalan: I just put it up there. [0:35:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just a general Zeke statement. [0:35:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I saw they started distributing money for ADI chain. They they dropped, like, 50. They put out 50 k in USDC. So I'm hoping that... I mean, for you guys, I I... I'm outside the top 200. Goddamn. [0:35:39] Moni @monitalan: Well, I'll... I can give the seed update, but I [0:35:42] Voice K: don't know. [0:35:42] Moni @monitalan: Are we in the info five part [0:35:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: of the... So the... In the note, they did mention that they are continuing continuing to work with clients that had existing campaigns or campaigns that had ended to ensure they live up to their end of the bargain and rewards that are promised. So I'm assuming this includes Zyber as well because Zyber did have an existing campaign with Zeit. No? [0:36:02] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. I think both... Cookie has said the same thing that they're working. They gave an update, and they actually shared an Excel outlook for that tweet where you can see what the statuses of their conversations with the projects so that the projects that did commit can get paid out. We... I don't... I haven't heard anything from Kaito, but I know that Kaito's having conversations this week from what I have heard with different projects just to see, right, what happens. And I'm assuming the same as with with Wallchain, they're talking to the projects and see how that happens. I think there's one campaign doing t... TG this week. And Limitless has said, right, that they are gonna count at least the points to... For the closeout for season two, but I wouldn't be surprised if they count positioning on leaderboard as well. So I think all the projects that are solid and and honest are gonna pay out creators because they wanna maintain the relationships with the creators. But look at the seat one. Seat certified creators will continue the process as they define how they're gonna move forward. So at least that's some movement in a positive way. [0:37:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. And, Vibes, I think I didn't see what you did there. You wrote nude to be in it, to win it. You didn't write need. You wrote nude. Alright? N e w d. Even though the e is next to the w on the keyboard, I'm on to you. I'm on to you, just so you know. [0:37:25] Voice J: You said, right, something to get your attention. So you go... Worked. [0:37:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: So you're diabolical. I swear to god. You are diabolical for sure. Yeah. We're gonna wait. I don't know where I don't know where cool is at. I... Did he say he wasn't gonna be able to make it [0:37:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, I hope he's okay because I saw that he hasn't really been active on his timeline today. He's usually running a trading space... A trading livestream, like, multiple hours a day, and he hasn't done one in, a few hours. So I'm I'm hoping he's okay. [0:37:57] Moni @monitalan: He did one yesterday. He's always on. [0:37:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't know how he does one. Yeah. [0:38:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: And so [0:38:01] Voice K: I was at school today. [0:38:02] Moni @monitalan: So... Oh, concerned at school. That's true. [0:38:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know, x factor, if you're on the Zyber account, it's just connecting, connecting, connecting. Update your app or do something, bro. Get off... Put your pants on first and foremost. Put pants on. And then... Yeah. [0:38:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, speaking of diaper, guys, don't forget we do have a a a space tomorrow at 7AM. I got the coffee. [0:38:26] Moni @monitalan: Six or four or whatever time zone you're in. I think 4AM for Sandy. [0:38:31] Voice K: 6AM. So 7AM [0:38:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: EST. [0:38:35] Moni @monitalan: Hey, Cyber. [0:38:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: He comes in so hot. [0:38:39] Voice F: What's up? Identify myself as cyber. [0:38:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: You got pants on? [0:38:43] Voice F: Yes. I have pants. Oh, yeah, man. I'm at the park with my kids. They didn't have school today, so, like, everything was thrown up was thrown up in a wrench a little bit. So [0:38:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. By the way, happy Martin Luther King. They obviously like to... I guess to all of us at the end [0:38:57] Voice F: of celebrate. Right? [0:38:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Happy MLK Day. And to the parents, good luck having to stay home with your kids. Brad got himself a haircut, x. That's what he said. But... Hey. Hey, yo. But good. I'm glad you're here with us. We're giving away the Lumira NFT. Anything you wanna kinda mention? I didn't know if they had to... If the win has to come with the hard stake, or do we just send it to their wallet, and then they can stake it directly, like, in the Zyber app? Or what's the deal? [0:39:26] Voice F: Usually, when there's a GIVI, it's it's hard staked. The radius sends it directly to the wallet, and it's just contracted over there. So that's probably how it's gonna be. But, yeah, just drop whoever wins. Just drop the wallet, and I'll have our guy radius send it over either tonight or first thing tomorrow morning. I'd... I'm pretty sure radius is sleeping, but by the time he wakes up, we'll we'll get that going. No. Not much the same, man. The the... Obviously, you guys saw the Lumira website. It's been cooking and doing some good things. Did you did you see the little teaser that I posted on on the ATC as far as, like, the the realism that's coming to Lumira? Like, we're experimenting with different models and stuff like that, and she's gonna be, like, realer than ever, and I think it's pretty freaking awesome. So I... You wanna see her shaking [0:40:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: her titties on the beach, bro, stand, like, DJing, bro. Like, like, oh, bro. [0:40:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Realism. That's definitely realism. And you [0:40:20] Voice K: can tell [0:40:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: that he's very excited about this. [0:40:22] Voice F: That's that's exactly right. So I I... It's funny because your team was, like, sending a couple of proofs, and I was, a little bit lower. A little bit lower. Okay. Yeah. That's good. But... Yeah. When [0:40:35] Moni @monitalan: are we gonna get the male robot? [0:40:38] Voice K: Right? Probably [0:40:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: probably never, [0:40:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Amoni. Why? And now we have a description. Oh, we... Listen. Exactly. Like, you you need something for everyone. Right? [0:40:54] Voice F: Yeah. Lomira is something for everybody. She interacts with both men and women without any issues. [0:41:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Know what I mean. [0:41:02] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Yeah. But women don't interact with women. Well, no. I don't I [0:41:07] Moni @monitalan: don't think the [0:41:08] Voice F: ladies would know what I was describing is what we're looking for.... Incorrect. [0:41:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, you're right. You're right.... The women the women might be getting a little bit jealous of... [0:41:19] Voice F: Yeah. There seems to be a little jealousy, a little phone one [0:41:21] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: going on. There we [0:41:22] Moni @monitalan: go. Okay. [0:41:24] Voice F: We like her. Maybe we'll maybe we'll make a Dominican variation called Lumiro and and see what happens. [0:41:30] Moni @monitalan: Lumiro. Yes. We need Lumiro. [0:41:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Three messages from these ladies on stage that says, those aren't realistic at all. And I don't know. [0:41:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Those are the... [0:41:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: I... Peter, you're moving down the road here. [0:41:40] Voice F: So I'm I'm...... [0:41:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Realistic to me. [0:41:43] Voice F: So my... I'm... I I happen to work right next to a... What do you what do you call these these clinics? These cosmetic clinics that the the women come out of there looking like a 2027 Lamborghini Aventus type of [0:41:57] Moni @monitalan: thing. Select [0:41:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: the venue for your offices? [0:42:01] Voice F: Is it a medical spot? No. It's not a medical spot. A it's a cosmetic surgery place. So they come out here looking looking right in [0:42:08] Moni @monitalan: Miami. That's all you have. [0:42:09] Voice F: So I can I can safely tell you that Lumira is very realistic to to current 2026 expectations? [0:42:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I need to get to Miami, man. What am I doing? I need to get down to Miami. [0:42:21] Voice F: We're we're completely off the rails, and I completely forgot that I'm actually on the corporate account. So let's Yeah. [0:42:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: By the way, you are on the corporate account, and you're a co host of ATC. So fines are extra. Nat, do you still charge the Zyber account in Hedera? [0:42:34] Voice J: Oh, yeah. It's double because I'm bouncing. Mhmm. Double d's. See, no more. [0:42:41] Voice K: See, I did [0:42:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: say I am on [0:42:43] Voice K: a roll. [0:42:44] Voice F: Hey. So so... But honestly, though, on the on the Zyber front, so obviously, Lumira is getting some more integrations coming our way. That sounded terrible. But I mean it in the best way possible. We're gonna have some great integrations coming our way. Also, we just started partnerships with our MCP. So you're gonna start seeing some announcements from that end. Any agent that is currently offering some utility can literally be plugged and played into the Zyber ecosystem and our rails. So anybody in our ecosystem can use it within about three to four hours. Thanks to our dev team getting that part approved, ready to roll. So we're gonna be making some partnerships and, I guess, some... I guess, a first come... First served priorities to certain agents that we've selected. For example, some some agents that happen to have some sort of audio file capabilities, we might be having some collabs and partnerships go... Coming with these guys. So what that means is that they can connect to the MCP. So that means that, technically, anybody that launches in the zero to 100 within our ecosystem will be able to access their tech and their API and call from it just by literally launching on on our zero to 100. Right? So any project that comes in can go ahead and call and instantly communicate through any one of these agents that we add in the integration, which I think is really cool. You don't have to do anything. You just... You're literally, like, able to communicate right from the get go. I think it's something that's pretty solid that Zyber's offering. So look out for that. Plenty of partnerships coming along. [0:44:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. I love it. I love it. Let's do this. Yeah. Shout out to the person who bought the Lumira three hours ago. Look at that, bro. Point two right off the floor. Gotta love this, man. Pouty lips. Look at that, bro. Lumira looks good. [0:44:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm just [0:44:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: saying. Lumira Lumira looks good. [0:44:45] Voice F: Oh, but, Brett, did you speak at all about the dock markets wait list? I need you guys to stop signing up to the wait list. Like, there's no possible way that we can let, like, 24,600 people in at at the same time. So just just please stop signing up for it. That'd be great. We are... We're trying to figure out how to let as many people... [0:45:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, hold on. Hold on. On. I love how you you went through that that really, really fast. So are you saying that there are now over 24,000 wallets on that wait list? [0:45:16] Voice F: Yeah. 24,633 as of this morning when I asked. Yeah. So pretty pretty insane, humbled by the demand and everybody that's, you know, trying to get in. But, obviously, it presents a challenge because we can't let you all in, guys. I'm sorry. The the ecosystem participants and the early holders are are gonna get prioritized, of course. So there's gonna be an announcement on that coming soon as how we're gonna integrate that into the, I guess, ecosystem and make it as fair as possible. So we're having active discussions with the dock markets team and and making sure that we guide them in the right direction. Right? But at the end of the day, there's no way that 24,000 people are gonna come in off off rip first day. And to [0:45:58] Moni @monitalan: take down the ad? Do I take down the ad? I'm just kidding. [0:46:02] Voice F: The what? [0:46:03] Moni @monitalan: The ad. A bit better ad. [0:46:05] Voice K: Yeah. No. You're kidding. [0:46:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Me and me and Moni have been hitting promo on that post over and over again. Sorry about that. [0:46:13] Voice F: I mean, honestly, it feels that way. Right? Like, the the initial influx was... I think we got, like, 633 people signed up within the first hour, hour and a half. We're like, alright. This is cool. We'll definitely get over a thousand by the next... And then the next day we check it, and it got out of hand. Plenty of reposts on it. I'm not sure who got ahold of it or what type of community. There's a lot of activity coming from Telegram. So I guess, obviously, it's making its rounds, not just in the CT. Again, we're we're thrilled. Right? But, yeah, it's gonna be interesting to give as many people opportunities to test out the product early. So, Brad, you got your work cut out for you, my guy. [0:46:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: But Let's go. [0:46:58] Moni @monitalan: FedEx factor for those that don't make it in. There's so many other ways to interact and participate. Right? So it's it's... With with cyber. So... [0:47:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. So so, guys, [0:47:07] Voice F: you gotta remember. Is that... So [0:47:12] Voice H: Zyber is sponsoring, and we're making sure that they're successful from a team perspective. But they're literally just a prod... One of the projects that's incubated within the Zyber ecosystem. Right? The Zyber ecosystem is way more than doc market. It just happens to be that the hype for dock markets and, obviously, the prediction markets and stuff that we're in right now is is through the roof, so it escalated extremely quickly. But there are four other projects actively developing alongside our our dev teams and with with their support that are gonna be launching as well as well as Lumira. Lumira is gonna be her own launch on the zero to 100 too. Right? So the Zyber ecosystem is way more expansive than that. And and, again, the the proof rails, right, the... That our dev... Developers finished up the fact that any agent... They don't have to launch in the zero to 100, but any agent can go ahead and provide their tool or their skill set to our ecosystem by plugging and playing. And then any other agent that exists on the zero to 100 automatically has access to that guy is pretty significant. Right? That's not something that that you see in any other agent ecosystem. That's how you really start having these these guys be their own businesses and transact amongst each others. Right? So that's that's a big takeaway there. And, yeah, that market is awesome for sure. I'm gonna be using it heavily. Absolutely. [0:48:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it. And and, obviously, NFT... Lumi NFT holders are gonna be prioritized from this wait list as well. Yeah? Is that what you said? [0:48:36] Voice H: Yes. Lumira NFT holders will have the, I guess, the inside track if they would like to get in to the dark market early. [0:48:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. I like it. I like it. Alright. Cool. Good stuff, guys. I did I did wanna pivot for a quick second because, like, this was... This is maybe, like, a crypto Twitter. Not even crypto. Maybe just obviously with all the Nikita talk and everything else about Infofy or whatever. [0:49:02] Voice F: And I... We don't got [0:49:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: a hard pivot to Infofy yet, but I took thirty minutes, and I actually listened. You know the article where the guy wrote how to change your life in one... Like, how to drastically change your life in one day? I thought, like, somebody did, like, a whole audio thing to it, and I just... I I do better with audio, especially with, like, extended articles like that. I I kinda want us to talk about that for a quick second because number one, like, I thought the article was great, super well written. I thought it was amazing. But, also, we also have the, you know, the the article Armageddon, right, that Nikita has put upon us where it's like a million dollars going out to the top creator, and it's just literally straight impressions. And this thing has this thing probably would've won by a mile. I think it has a 100... At this point, probably a 110, 120,000,000 views for now. And then I want us to then talk about how Warden protocol came out. It's like, yeah. We got a million to throw towards this too. Me and Naeem were talking about this on the stream earlier. So I just kinda wanna get everybody's gauge as, like, what do we think about articles now? How we're... Are... Like, is this what we want? Are we substituting one slop for another article slop? And then we can kinda dive in a little from there. But, Moni, I know you're obviously big into this. So, yeah, like, I would love to kinda hear your thoughts. [0:50:17] Moni @monitalan: And I actually have to give super big credit to the engineer because we had a space yesterday, and he brought up why x is doing this. And it changed my whole perception of the whole article thing. So I think... And then I did research the engineering. You're right. So the human data is pretty much running off for training LLMs. This is what Grock needs. And so one of the issues that Grock was having was that it was getting all this bad data, right, and and human text because of Infify. So they shut it down because of their own Grock, not because of of anything else, but because they need good content to train them. And then they saw a couple of good articles that got a lot of of traction, including that one. And they said, well, what if we... This is what we need. This is... We need long form content. We need... Obviously, we'll see a lot of AI slop as well. But they're gonna be able to curate and get better content because at least you get people who are paying. Right? You have to be premium plus post an article. He said premium, but I don't think it's open as... Yet for premium. Somebody told me they tried and they couldn't. So you need to be premium plus to be able to publish an article, and it's very hard for for a bot to do that even though we're saying... Seeing a little bit of AI craziness already with the article. So I think it's... Their goal is to train Grok. So if you wanna help train Grok, do good articles about topics that you like, Matt. You should totally do training articles, and you're gonna help train Grok. So kudos to the engineer because I honestly have not thought about it, and I was like, oh, you're absolutely a 100% right. [0:51:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is a great take. That's a great take. I honestly did not see it that way at all. So with Infofy, Graf was being fed a whole bunch of, like, nonsense. And then with with this article, they're hoping to, like, streamline it a little bit. That makes sense. But for me, honestly, I feel like we went from information finance to article finance because there's an... A reward tied to it. Right? But but it's a little more cleaner and, you know, and less slop because of the whole... It being an article. But it's a great take. I did not see it like that at all. So shout out to the engineer for sure. [0:52:36] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I jumped on that [0:52:38] Voice H: right away. So didn't didn't Nikita didn't Nikita say that, you know, in order for the platform to successfully pivot, you have to kinda, like, let it all happen at once?... Overcorrect is what he called it. Exactly. There you go. So he's forcefully overcorrecting. You're gonna have a bunch of crap that's gonna happen here with this article meta, and then they're probably gonna take the methods to minimize the the slot that's happening. Right? Now what most people are doing almost as a joke. Right? It's just like, oh, look at the sweet article. Go ahead and... Hey, Claude. Rewrite this article about this different topic. Make no mistakes. And whatever comes out is what they post. Right? That's that's definitely not the intention, I would assume, that Nikita has. Right? But but pops pops two x, he seems to be on his, like, evil supervillain mode right now, just completely terrorizing the timeline. So I would not wanna be in Nikita's enemy for sure. [0:53:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you see what... I think Nikita posted... Yeah. I'm coming right to you right now, and then we'll come to Landy and Naim. But, did did you see Nikita posted something where... I forgot who's account. Like, he replied to someone. Was like, I will literally stop at nothing to ruin your business. I was [0:53:48] Voice K: like, god. [0:53:49] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. It was a marketing one. It was a marketing AI. [0:53:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. [0:53:53] Moni @monitalan: It was crazy. But the other thing is did you see that they shut down communities that had Kaido or Infofy in them? [0:54:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Saw that too. Yep gods. Yep line. Yep this. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. No longer. [0:54:09] Voice H: And there's and there's more and there's more coming. Right? [0:54:12] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: And That was a few days before the the whole... The announcement. Sorry. It's over. Sorry. [0:54:17] Voice H: No. You're good. I'm just saying if if you still have, like, some sort of InfoFire related thing in your bio, you you probably wanna get rid of that ASAP. [0:54:26] Moni @monitalan: I know. I've been telling everybody. The other thing is I'm so grateful. Nobody pays attention to Spanish because they didn't shut shut down my community, but we've we've changed the name. [0:54:37] Voice H: Infofit. It's completely different. [0:54:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'll [0:54:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm now gonna include, like, the Spanish mafia in my in my miniseries, Monica. [0:54:48] Voice K: No. Yes. [0:54:50] Moni @monitalan: We wanna be under the radar. [0:54:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Like, you guys are too small. That's why didn't notice you, but keep operating. We expect an envelope every single time. Yeah. Nat, go ahead, then we'll to d we'll go to d. [0:55:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I also like with this update, what came with it is the fact that... Remember how we had this space a few weeks ago that... I I did not know that you can get monetized based on replies. And from my understanding, that has changed based on this update. That's one thing that came along with it. It has to be all on your homepage, and the impression has to be all on your homepage. No. But there's No. No. No. [0:55:24] Voice H: But you can still get monetized. Right? You can still get monetized and add your subscription. Like, if you wanna be... If you wanna have a subscriber channel, you can still get that through the replies. You can't get paid based on those You can only get pay... Paid on the organic home impressions is is that guidance. [0:55:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: And before, just so everybody is clear, right, like, what... The way in which they were paying us, which, by the way, also, I think it's crazy. This guy got a 100,000,000 something views, and he got paid $4,500. In what... On what a 100,000,000 people saw this article, and you gave this man $4,400? That is the problem with that, and they need to seriously fix this shit. [0:56:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's after the payment upgrade? Because I know they doubled or they increased the payment. [0:56:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know if they did. No. It was before. [0:56:08] Moni @monitalan: It was before. [0:56:09] Voice H: So we got... It it was it was in between. Right? So I think he had some exposure to it, but his new payment that's coming out here in the next cycle should be more reflective. If it's not, then that's that's crazy. Bro, it got rugged. [0:56:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. But focus, guys. Now what your focus needs to be, you don't gotta worry about who's verified in your comments, what conversations are going on. They wanna have conversations? Go nuts. It's straight views. So figure out how to work... Mister beast this shit, talk to Grock as much as you can, figure out how this algorithm works. [0:56:38] Moni @monitalan: Oh, no. But, actually, just made premium plus, you count more. You're the new smart follower. [0:56:44] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I just made a video on this on my profile if you look at it. [0:56:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tim it. [0:56:49] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Okay. I will. But, basically, what it is is replies still totally matter because when you reply, it basically extends your reach. People go to your profile and then they will start following you. So Reply Guy is not actually over. It's just changed a little bit. [0:57:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. But before, you could get monetized based on the replies. Right? [0:57:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Not monetized. You can get... You can [0:57:16] Voice H: you can still get monetized based [0:57:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: on replies. Yeah. Be care... Let's let's make the distinction. Be... Getting monetized is different than actually, like, how you get paid once you are monetized, and there's a difference there. But, yeah, these had to stand up for a minute. Let's go to Dee. Sorry, man. Thanks for being patient, bro. [0:57:30] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Yeah. I was about to go back to my family because I was listening to... [0:57:33] Voice H: Oh, no. And he rugged. [0:57:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're rugged. [0:57:36] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: You're a rug factor. [0:57:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why are you still defensive, bro? [0:57:41] Voice H: Who hurt you today? [0:57:42] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: No. You guys gotta choose if you wanna engage with this because you're gonna get to the point where you're just training Grok for free even if you're doing articles or something like that. And I'm gonna finish off the articles that I'm writing right now, and then I'm gonna be taking a hard pivot away from the platform in terms of, like, extended content that I'm gonna be doing on here. And you have to think about it logically. Are you gonna get paid to train an AI, or will you go somewhere else and get monetized and get paid to do stuff there? Because, honestly, they're... We're paying for our subscriptions, and then we're being rugged at the same time. You have to look at it in that perspective. Yeah. CT community is here and will always be here, but doesn't mean that you have to, like, really engage here unless you're being paid to do it by a project or something like that. It's just one of those factors to consider. And see, I told you he's a rug. He rugged right off. [0:58:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Where are you going, bro? What... Like, what platform... What's the next move, bro? Fill me in. I wanna follow you and make some money, bro. [0:58:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm telling you. MySpace. [0:58:51] Voice K: Oh, I I I got [0:58:53] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: one older than you. That Asian Avenue. [0:58:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, wow. That old. [0:58:58] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: That really... That shows [0:59:00] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: me how old I am. But... Yeah. I'd I'd even go back. I can go to AOL chat boards. I don't know if anybody's been on those. Passenger. [0:59:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes, sir. Age, sex location, ASL. But [0:59:17] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: it is something to consider. But there's... Like, I'm... I've been hearing good things about Facebook, LinkedIn. I'm probably gonna start back posting stuff on my Instagram. I stopped doing that. [0:59:27] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. But they're all they're all training AIs as well because they're indexable in search engines too. This is where, like [0:59:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: At least we get paid there. Right? [0:59:34] Moni @monitalan: Naim is what But I've heard it. [0:59:36] Voice K: I've been [0:59:36] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: hearing LinkedIn. The payment's been pretty good. Right? They're not like how it is on x. So it's just something to consider. And even then, I can just cross post if I really want to. Right? We'll do one and just post it right across. So it's it's just... The way they're doing it with the home engagement aspect, it sucks for people like cats and I who will put good content out, and we don't get the freaking engagement because of whatever reason. Like, I think there's marks against our accounts or something like that. Because it took me two years to get paid. No, Dave. You're laughing. I monetized twice. I monetized twice, bro. Once under the original amount, I hit that within, like, a month. [1:00:19] Voice K: A month. [1:00:19] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: And then the [1:00:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: But from OG content? [1:00:22] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Last year where I had to hit 5,000,000 in three months, I did that last in a month again. [1:00:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was it your content, or was the... Was it the reply content like everybody does? [1:00:32] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: I was doing both. And then I had to file a a thing against, like, x because I asked them why am I not being monetized on Grock. And Grock said, oh, apply... Fill this out and submit it. And then they came back, and they're like, oh, yeah. You're a real account. I'm like, yo. Y'all are fucking retarded. So, like, straight up. So just, like, that kind of shit really starts to get to people. I'm just saying. [1:00:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: When you have make [1:00:58] Voice J: a suggestion that you you look at doing some blog articles and doing that so that you have it's still your work under your name and you've got that control and then put it out elsewhere because it's important to keep the control and copyright of your own work. [1:01:13] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Sorry if I've... I missed the first part of that. What did you [1:01:16] Voice J: I'm saying put it under a blog article. It's important to keep the copyright of your own work. If you put it onto these platforms, you're giving that away, so just be mindful of that. [1:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Zuckerberg owns you all, just FYI. It makes no no qualms. No. There's no no secrets about it. But, yeah, the good... I've been saying this too, man. Like, I... Like, training Grok is is the deal. Right? And it's so much easier to get context from one article than it is from a post and a bazillion different replies of who knows what than than having to sort all through that. Even a 100,000 freaking GPUs is obviously at some point is is gonna be cost prohibitive and it is is really not the way. So I like this, but I I kind of... There was a little bit of agreement with me here with what Yuri said where he's like, you're kinda switching one for the other. And I think they realized it, but they're like, oh, sometimes you have to overcorrect. But, yeah, Naeem, let's go for it. And then... Oh, sorry. Landy, then we'll come to... I'll come back right back to you, Naeem. Landy, go ahead. [1:02:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Oh, shit. Can you hear me okay? [1:02:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Can you [1:02:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: hear me? Yeah. Can you hear me? Look. [1:02:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. Hear both of you guys fine. [1:02:23] Voice K: Yeah. Oh, thank you. [1:02:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Appreciate that. [1:02:26] Voice F: No mess. [1:02:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: The the the big thing here is it's gonna be Grok talking to itself by and large because most people or other models talking to Grok essentially, right, and training Grok because most people are not gonna sit down and take the time to actually write their own articles. In fact, that article that went viral, you can very clearly see that it was written by AI. Right? And and you you can clearly see it. And anyone who wants to challenge me on that, go back and read that article, and then take that subject matter and put that same subject matter into Grok itself. And you will see that just in that subject, you will get the same type of of feel to it. Right? Obviously, some prompting here and there. I have no problem with people using AI to write. I think that AI is terrible because it trends towards the mean. Right? It's not a very good writer. And because it trends towards the mean, you get the slop that you see. But if you can use it to enhance your process of writing, then maybe you could write great stuff. Right? But this is gonna end up being a lot of AIs feeding data to crock. That's all it is at the end of the day. [1:03:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: And... And, like, did you really think that article was AI written? [1:03:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: It was. [1:03:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's like... Absolutely AI written. Yeah. [1:03:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe because I listened to it. Maybe I didn't read it. [1:03:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It is absolutely AI written. There is no way... [1:03:59] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: But it's very much Dan's Yeah. [1:04:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: And Dan has been using AI to So... Write for a very long [1:04:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did you guys see the comment? Someone actually did go in...... What he's doing. Yep. Someone that actually went into the article and copied and pasted certain stuff, just like Andy said, into AI and got the same exact thing. So it's a big... [1:04:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Across different platforms too. [1:04:24] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's Gemini. It has the style of Gemini writing. [1:04:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's absolutely Gemini. Yeah. And, like, even Grok is the same way. Look. All of these models are gonna be sharing all of this type of data because everyone's going to be using AI. I mean, even mainstream media, all those articles of now, they're being edited by AI and it's... And the results are hilarious, by the way. Right? Because AI makes stuff up. They don't check it. It just goes into the article, and and it's all about the impressions. This is... I don't care. We were already being... We were already training the AI. I don't care about the article five push and all of this kinda narrative surrounding it because we were all the product anyway. Right? We were all feeding the models this... Our our information, and they've been using Grok to do this. Every platform uses it... Uses your information to train their models. It's all in the TOSs. And where the rub usually comes in is other platforms scraping data from, you know, a competitor and and then using their information. Right? And it's like, if you go to GPT, it's 99.9 of it is is just Reddit data. Now they've they've tried to take a lot of lengths to course correct that, and then what did they start doing? They started scraping data from x, which then resulted in the spat last year. Right? So I think that it's an unavoidable thing. And if you are going to go anywhere, I think that you should be here still and have... And maintain your presence and your audience here, but you should be branching out. And this is maybe me talking directly to the engineer because I think your content is fantastic. I barely ever see it unless it's pinned, and here's why. Your for you is curated around the most recent posts that you have liked and interacted with. So if I like the post that Dave put up, now I'm seeing more stuff from within Dave's sphere of influence, more people that he's connected to. I start seeing the ATC stuff and the crew again on my For You. But... And it's, like, on Tuesdays and Fridays, if I... I'm liking all of the the Zyber content. Right? Like, the engineers putting out... Katz is putting out... You know, the Zyber team is putting... I didn't even know that the Zyber team had had new articles up, and I was like, oh, crap. Let me go and... Like, it's not hitting, and I have them on notifications. So this is... They are going to be playing with that a little bit more because now you're gonna have the priority view and, like, all this stuff, but this all takes tuning. And for anyone that thinks, like, this is an easy thing to do, go look at how long it took TikTok to stop just showing kids horrible things. And now many people are like, oh, it's on purpose. That's why they're showing these kids sexualized content on TikTok. It really wasn't. Like, with... It it it was one of those situations where it's filtering into their feed because of the way that people are exploiting to target that kind of stuff. But, realistically, here's... And I've been hammering on this for so long, and I'm so glad that you did a livestream today, Dave. I really am. Because you saw that you had a lot of people come in right off the rip and and come in just when you were just talking all by yourself. Right? And I, unfortunately, wasn't able to stay or or pop in because of the, you know, kids being off. But this is where I really do think video content on this platform is the the new frontier that is right around the corner. And if you aren't taking advantage of specifically live streaming... Because all the video... And I I wanna stress this again. All the video content that you put up, if it is a just recorded video and you post it, it's seen as a post. It will index it with the video and the tags, and it'll try some horrible way of of of translating it without an SRT file, and it's usually wrong. But I see the engineer laughing because you know exactly what I'm talking about, don't you? [1:08:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We daily... We stream daily. [1:08:44] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Two times a day sometimes, and it's a pain in the ass. [1:08:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Now when you're streaming, though, you have an edge over all of the other video content. Get out there. And if you wanna produce content, you don't necessarily have to show your face, although it does benefit it... Benefits you if you do because you create a connection with your audience, a personal connection. And that is something that you need to start doing here. Because if you're gonna go to these other platforms, even if you're posting, most of it is still video focused. So if you're gonna go to Instagram, you might as well go to TikTok, and you might as well cross post all of that content. And, realistically, you don't wanna be taking your TikTok content with the watermarking like everybody does here. This is basic... Basically TikTok junior because everybody just goes there and cut... And rips off the content from there with the TikTok logo and everything and reposts it here in the most horrible cropped stupid looking manner that they possibly can. But if you're here and you're on this platform and you upload that across Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, by the way, is taking more of a video focus and livestream focus now too, and you upload that also, that same source video, or if it's a livestream, you multistream to all of them, you now have a way to kinda tell those people that are stealing your content, like, nah. Nah. That's me. Or at least you need to link my original video kind of thing. Because the next big thing that's gonna be coming to x, and I know everybody's gonna take issue with this, is DMCA takedowns. They're gonna take the YouTube model. They didn't bring up YouTube monetization and trying to level creators up to that level without having discussions on the back end with people who have helped build that system over there. Now those same people that helped build that system on YouTube, they did not stay, which is one of the reasons why YouTube is kinda going to crap right now. So the opening is here because it's new. And if you can establish yourself, you're gonna be part of the next generation of content creators on the video side. And I do mean that. This is the biggest platform around, and once it moves in that direction, there's no going back. [1:10:59] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Landy You're gonna meet me. What I've started [1:11:01] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: doing I'm just gonna jump in quick, quick, quick, because my kid is crying. KappaCut. I recommend this for everybody. Use KappaCut. It'll [1:11:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: take yeah. [1:11:10] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Capacut. Sorry. I always say Capacut. I always say that because of Capcom. But, anyways Yes. So take that, and it'll do a conversion into both, like, a vertical format. So nine sixteen and then 16 by nine if you're shooting 16 by nine. So it's like a very useful platform to use. [1:11:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys are gonna make me literally partner up with the frosted tip guy over here. This is crazy. Go ahead, Marni. Sure. Well... Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Marni, go go ahead, Marni, and then we'll go... Naeem, thanks for being patient. Go ahead, Marni. [1:11:40] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Lady, this is right on that. So I've been streaming every day last few days, like, trading. Right? My little vault thing here. But then what I do is I do... I run my script through my AI with my style of writing, and then I actually go through it. It makes a draft for me, and then I, like, correct it and everything. And I've been doing that every single day, and I have, like, 50 people who watch that every single day, and and it's, like, consistent. And then the article is out there as well. And then I just became an ambassador for, what do you call it, head draw. And so now that video that you see that's up in the jumbotron there, I posted it to Facebook where I monetized Instagram and my YouTube shorts. And so I'm like, I'm just trying everything everything [1:12:41] Voice K: to see what works. [1:12:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Good morning. Yeah. Good morning. [1:12:49] Moni @monitalan: No. I think you have somebody else, and then I can go. [1:12:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Okay. Cool. Naim, thanks. Go for it, bro. [1:12:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Thank you. Yeah. I've seen a lot of, like, negative approach to this article stuff or thoughts around this article article stuff. And I think, you know, the the the AI thing, Landy hit the nail on the head. Like, you know, when when he when he bought Twitter X, I thought it was very much a data play with, in terms of AI, and that's what we're producing on a daily basis. So, like, if you're concerned about producing content for... From an article perspective to train AI, like, you shouldn't be posting in the first place. And then, like, Lundy says, it's everywhere. Like, do you... This is where you should build an audience and then try to capture them into your own owned channel. Right? Whether that's a newsletter, website, whatever that may be, like, the mini platform, you can build that out quite easily yourself now. But, yeah, like I I think I mentioned it in the stream and I mentioned it in other spaces as well. Like, for me, this article thing is a very positive thing for the platform from an x perspective, when they're trying to capture good creators, you have people like the CEO of Netflix coming along. You know, he'd been producing content on Substack for a while, which is the go to place for articles. Everywhere else is cooked. And even in the Substack, he's saying the very very same piece got 30 likes or something over there. And he's got, you know, 10... Like, I don't know how much engagement he got here, but significantly lot a lot more. So for me, like, when you put something like... You make a statement like this, although it's one person that's gonna win it, it's telling the world of writers and creators because people still read, written content. Right? Like, whether it's news, whether it's books or whatever, and the pendulum will be swinging this way, is driving creators and writers to x, and they need to do something. Someone shared a similar web stats of the daily active users on, threads via Twitter x. And, you know, threads overtook them last year, and this guy was laughing on about how article five was causing market dominance to shrink against, threads. That happened in October, like, last year. And right now, over the... Since the new year, over the last month, it's actually shifting to the other side. So, like, x is on the up and and threads is coming down. There is still a gap and threads is still higher in terms of daily active users. But, yeah, this this is the sort of stuff that will drive creators to this platform. Obviously, the the reality is different. Right? Like, they're not gonna probably get much money from it as it stands. But, you know, when they when they have all the products in the pipeline, which in my opinion is gonna be, like, the sort of copy pastor of TikTok shop, they want the best creators here. They want the thought leaders across different verticals here so that brands can say, oh, yes. We need to tap into this from an advertising perspective and from from a perspective of having a feature product that connects them to creators. Right? So the sellers to creators. And that's the way it's heading. So, like, although, like, in my opinion, this is probably one of the smaller platforms. Having an audience here is probably more valuable... Well, is more valuable than the likes of Instagram. That has 3,000,000,000 users or something stupid. LinkedIn has 1,200,000,000. You know, even threads, a little side project linked to Instagram social graph, has 150,000,000, and I think x is around 100. But the point is, like, yeah, I think overall, it's a it's a good move from a creative perspective to do something like this to to to capture that attention is what I would say. [1:16:20] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. And so I just... You pretty much said everything I was gonna say. But I do wanna go back to something, Dave, you said. Like, where do you go? I think... Keep in mind also there's now platforms like Paragraph. Look at on chain platforms where you can own your audience. So I think for me, and maybe you guys can correct me. I'm looking at it the wrong way. But for me, x is the top of the funnel because you're gonna get so much view on engagement. And then try to get some of that audience to something you own. Even if it's sub stack, even if it's beehive or if it's paragraph, so that you can then start to have that database. Because if you're a deep platform for some reason, you're not gonna be able to bring that audience with you. And and then look at how do you get the content like everybody has said. Right? Edit it or just that same content make it for the different platforms. I think that's another opportunity for base app. I know they're moving a little bit away from creators, but try to put content there every day because I I think that will still count. And it gives you another platform. But I'm betting on LinkedIn. I actually didn't know you get monetized on LinkedIn, but I've now heard it, like, five times in the last forty eight hours. So I think LinkedIn is one of the platforms I'll look at. It's more my style, and then I have to think about streaming. I'm not a big video person, but I love writing. And so I shared the article because I need more views, but also because I really... It really allowed me to write, write a long form that I haven't done in a long time, and I really enjoy writing. And this is something that was on my list of things that I wanted to write about. So... [1:17:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. So us, Tony. Let's be a team. You write, I I stream. [1:17:59] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: There we go.... [1:18:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fifty fifty. There we go. [1:18:02] Moni @monitalan: I mean, you prefer it. Let's go. I'm... I love writing. And, hopefully, you guys are enjoying my pieces. But anyway... [1:18:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: So... I think your content is phenomenal, Moni. I think you have literally some of the best content on next. I'm not even joking. Like, I'm I'm being dead serious. This is not a glaze. This is none of that. Like, I... For me personally, like, when I retweet somebody's stuff, I retweet it not because it's like, engage. It's either I was retweeting to try and get somebody into an Infofy leaderboard, or I was like, this is real content, and you'll see me post it. Be like, look. Check this out. Watch this. Take two seconds. Read this. Right? Like, that's the way kinda I operate kinda my my page and my profile. But I really love the point of, like, if you get deplatformed, where are you gonna go? What do you have? I heard talking about this with Yuri last week on their livestream. He's like, you know, bro, this is what fucking keeps me up at night, bro. I'm afraid that one fucking day I wake up and that's it. Nothing's fucking left. And it's like, you know what? I kinda get that. I'm... Me too. If all of a sudden, I'm locked out of my Twitter account, this is how I make my living. Oh my god. Did [1:19:04] Moni @monitalan: he say that before or after the info fight? [1:19:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was before. Right before info fight. He had premonition. Yeah. He did. He did. He did. Yeah. Nat, go ahead, then we'll go over to the puppet. [1:19:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah, guys. So maybe, I think, at some point, we all need to have... Like, we need to add trading or investing into our repertoire. Right? Because what if this does all go away? Right? What if something happens tomorrow and x is down? Also, all social media platforms are down. What are we gonna do? Right? But there's Fidelity. Right? There's Robinhood. There's Schwab. Right? So I I I think the more two... Tools in your tool shed. You can't go wrong. [1:19:50] Voice K: Well, I think some [1:19:51] Moni @monitalan: of the... Toolbox. I think some of the platforms didn't. Sirion just launched, like, where you could put post content. I think you're doing content not for the coin market. Right? Are you? Maybe? Yeah. So look at other platforms. But, like, Landy, I love your trading videos. I think you should put them on BaseApp. I think it gives you a different audience. They're really... That's what they wanna do trading. I bet you is that you'll get a really big audience there. So I think everybody should pick a second platform at least and try to diversify. [1:20:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: And trading. [1:20:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let let me let me go ahead. [1:20:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. I I think that Naeem brought up a really good point and something that you can do. And and I've seen even a few a few people from the political side that that have been independent journalists for a while now kinda celebrating the fact that, hey. They already have subscribers here, and now they have articles that are being... A focus is bringing a lot of attention to their their articles. Right? Because a lot of them are going to the other platforms and and have had success for many years and, you know, your Substax and Beehives and so on and so forth. But, you know, when you when you have a very... You have very little visibility there, right, in terms of... You have to funnel everyone there. If you have a large audience here, you could... You... Funnel is easy. They're in app. If they're already a subscriber, they can do the articles. Maybe there's free articles you put out, subscriber articles you put out, stuff like that. But, realistically, what what they... You know, when when Elon talked about x being the everything app, he wasn't joking. Yeah. That really is the mission is to make it the everything app. So articles, you need that. You need to satisfy that audience. Bring it in here because where do people go when they write a Substack article? Well, they put it on their x profile, Twitter. Right? So it's one of those things. You know? People post videos on YouTube, and they're still sharing that even though, like, the cross linking for a while was like... Basically, the post went nowhere, but they're still linking their videos. And now they're starting to even upload their videos on YouTube and on x. Right? So we're we're we're gonna start seeing this probably change pretty quickly over the course of this year in terms of the focus and and how this platform kinda changes. And being able to adjust with it is something that has benefited myself, right, and many others here, right, is whatever that that adjustment is, we figure out what it is. We pivot towards it with our content. I mean, me, I'm a I'm a lazy puppet. I just... I post my videos, and then I'm like, alright. I gotta go do do dad things because I'm just not... I don't view myself as a content creator. Right? And that's something that I've had a few people talk to me behind the scenes. They're like, no. No. No. You're absolutely a content creator, and now you have a a large enough audience that they're looking to you for this information specifically. And I'm like, well, I don't even view it that way because I'm not looking at the follower count, and I don't really pay attention to it. But now that I've been over on TikTok as well and joining different stages there, which I think, you know, stages, you know, and it's very similar to what we're doing here, except you can have the video component that many really wish that we had here of, like, you know, if Moni or the engineer or Dave or Nat or Brad can walk us through something, like, on their screen or, you know, you could show the promo of your MVP app or, you know, the the article that you wrote to really drive people to it would be brilliant if they could pivot that here. But you could already do that over on platforms like TikTok, and it's way easier to build an audience there. I literally haven't posted anything, and people are following me on a consistent basis. And I'm like, yeah. I just joined up on stages. Obviously, I'm attached to the Goksteen brand, and he's got a massive account. And so people are following me based on that, but I haven't posted any content there. And when I start to, that's gonna change. Right? Because now I'm being encouraged by many, and I appreciate everybody in the kind words to go and post my videos in different places, whether it be, like, money set on base or whether it be on TikTok or Instagram and stuff like that. And I think that the easiest way to start hitting this is if you know that this is going to be where the future is going for this particular application, if you build out that audience on those other platforms, you can start funneling them here. Because eventually, they will find their way here even if they've gone away for a little while, people still come in and they check. Look. Even though the even though the the people who went to Blue Sky, all they do is repost posts that they're seeing on x because they're just trolling the application at every turn. They're like, what are they saying on x? Now we must post it here so that we could, you know, talk crap about it or whatever it might be. Right? And and that's that's hilarious to me. And it's the same thing with with the Bitcoin social app that that that Jack built. [1:25:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bit chat. [1:25:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Exactly. What are people doing? They're... Everybody's going to x, and then they just pick and post their part. They're just reposting it there. You might as well have a a strategy where you're funneling in... All people to your main profile and then moving that audience. And that's one of the things that I've never felt big enough to do since having this account. So now that I'm getting back in that kind of a mindset, I'm thinking way more about that, which is why I'm encouraging you guys and gals to go and start just get that content out there because you could see the way the Infofy went. Right? And that is clearly going to change. Whether they survive or pivot or whatever happens, it's clearly going to change, and your content is gonna be king. So you might as well crown that content and make it about you. You're coming to me for my content and my niche, and I'm owning it. Right? And I think that's... I I don't know. Maybe it's because I've been encouraged to do this now. I would like to encourage everybody else to do it. And there is such an opportunity here to actually take advantage of the gaps and build it out for yourself while still expanding your audience to these other platforms. Because a lot of us have been siloed here, and we're just talking in our own little echo chamber. We basically are... Crypto is... Infofy took everybody and and siloed them into an echo chamber about a project, and crypto is just siloed into its own little echo chamber that's just talking about crypto crap all the time. So now you break out of that, bring new audiences in. That... That'll help you in the long run. It'll make you more valuable for things like sponsorships and different direct deals or network deals. Maybe maybe one of the big network deal platforms wants to bring you in. Or if you're monetized already, you can now... You have options through that subscribe side. You have options for... If you really start to go viral with things where even though the pay might not be there, you're getting a ton of eyeballs, and then you can just filter them right out to your other platforms that you're also building on as well. So it's a give and take, and I'm I'm actually kind of excited about this even though I think that article five is just article slot five, but that's it. [1:27:44] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: And Yeah. If you look at it, X is, like, the leading app all over the world. And so people might say that they're, like, not on X, but... [1:27:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: It's not, Varni. In terms of the actual user base, like, they might pretend it is. But, in The UK, for example, I know it's just one jurisdiction, there was an Ofcom report that showed it was on the decline. Like, but that being said, these sort of moves, I think, you know, when... Like, from a creator perspective, like, where are the creators at? They're on TikTok. They're on Instagram. They've they've got billions of users. We're here with, like, 100,000,000. We can't even... We don't even have more than threads. [1:28:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Thread... Yo. Fuck f threads right now. Okay? Nobody's on threads. Threads is the waste. [1:28:28] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: They they have 80,000 people in that official crypto thread thing. It's the worst content. When when Landy over there... Landy, let us know when you're on there, bro. [1:28:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. Yeah. [1:28:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: I got banned from threads because the first time that I got on threads, I said something about the upcoming election and how they were all gonna I be [1:28:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: got banned from TikTok. Yeah. [1:28:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, it's... [1:28:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Me too. [1:28:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've been banned multiple times from TikTok, but I keep coming back. You can't kill the puppet. But here's the... The the thing on threads, though, is I I got into it with somebody about the markets as it related to the election. So instead of having an actual conversation where I wasn't even talking about pro or con in terms of, like, being MAGA or this or that, it was purely about how is this administration's policies going to affect the markets and what matters and what doesn't because we could see all the moves happening now. So instead, they flagged me as a MAGA terrorist. That was literally what they flagged me as. And I'm like, well, there's no way they're gonna get rid [1:29:29] Moni @monitalan: of Oh me [1:29:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: my god. [1:29:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because this is just nonsense. There's no such. And then they banned me. They freaking banned me, and I had a pretty good following there. [1:29:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, they banned me for literally vaping on a livestream on TikTok. And I was like, that's this place. It's crazy. [1:29:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: They banned me for posting stock stuff. [1:29:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: They they banned me for for literally talking about Bitcoin. I got reported for scams on TikTok. Now they don't do that anymore, but I had a pretty darn large following at the time. I also had a large following at... Here on on Twitter when it was Twitter. [1:30:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Twitter? Lendi, I got the idea. I got what we should do. We turn your ordinal puppets into plushies, and we open up the TikTok shop. We get, like, one of these, like, 17 year old Asian chicks. It's all hopped up on Mountain Dew and Red Bull and Monster. [1:30:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. [1:30:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: And we get her to sell, like, ordinal stuff. You know? It's like, real? [1:30:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: What is this one? [1:30:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can't do it. I can't. Can't. [1:30:26] Voice J: I dare you to... Dave, go there. I go there. I dare you. Do you have the balls for it? [1:30:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Limited edition one of one puppet with crown. You could buy this today for only $19.99. Don't worry about... Well, we've only got 14 left. Here you go. And the girl with the with the motorized phones that [1:30:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: she purchased. Shit. Bought a TikTok shop that I didn't need, bro. I literally... Before I knew about the ducks, dad bought ducks thinking they were laboo boos, bro. [1:30:55] Voice K: There's always... [1:30:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have not had [1:30:56] Voice K: money out of all [1:30:57] Moni @monitalan: of us.... Question for Landy. Kinda love this. And I have a serious question for you. And then I have an idea for you. But first, the question. [1:31:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sure. [1:31:05] Moni @monitalan: How do you not get... I... We got booted... My crypto connection got booted from TikTok for educational crypto content. And obviously, the name crypto on our name doesn't help. But any... How how are you doing TikTok so you don't get booted or banned? Well, [1:31:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: so I'm coattail riding David Gokstein because he's got a massive account. So, clearly, I'm just there to engagement farm. But... No. I mean, when I was building it out before, I had a substantial following on Twitter. I had a substantial following on TikTok, and this is now going back many, many years at this point. This is before I became the little Bitcoin puppet that you see today, and I was doxxed. And one of the things I can tell you is that if you're doxxed and you're talking about this content, they don't get rid of you. [1:31:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: But I've had to appeal many times, Landy, like, just, like, general crypto content. But, yeah, like, I do have my face on. [1:32:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So it... Because what they're trying to do is they they see it as... They they have, I don't know, like, a moderation team that kinda goes through. And... Or they're not officially a part of TikTok, but they just go around flagging a bunch of things that could potentially be scams. Right? And, obviously, a lot of crypto stuff is scammy, especially on TikTok. It got really bad for a while with crypto scams. Now when I when I went and I transitioned my account there, I did... I made a massive mistake because I had a pretty large following, but then I went to undocs and I I hid all of the previous videos. And people started to report me who I had already gotten into fights with for crypto scams. And then that kept every time through, they started they started... You know, when I took my face off of the video, now all of a sudden, there's just the chart. It's very easy for you to get flagged and not reviewed. So if you have your face, you're gonna be fine. I had that account taken down. I reopened a few accounts later. I built audiences, and then all of a sudden, boom, done out. And I was just talking about markets. I wasn't talking about anything other than really Bitcoin, maybe, you know, Dow, NASDAQ, SPY, all that kind of stuff. And it it was a... It became an issue where no matter... I would create a new account, VPN, everything with the account, all brand new, everything as much as I can wash through to get there. And I would just immediately, as soon as I caught any traction, done over with. It was always... It always was scams, and that was what they were marking or flagging content with. Now there's a very robust, like, crypto community over there talking about crypto on a consistent basis. [1:33:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: A lot. A lot. I see it every day, man. And, honestly, like, this is where my nephew Nate was on the livestream today. I'm like, yo. Get on the livestream with us so that you can chat with us. He's like, oh, I'm on my way. I want... I'm going on a boat. I'm like, excuse me. Hush. That's 16 year old. My fancy pants and Turks And Caicos. Sorry. I'm going on a boat. My god. My nephew lives a good life. Let me tell you. But, yeah, like, I'm I'm literally trying to get this younger generation to be like, yo. You're doom scrolling TikTok. You're the best person for this shit. You know what I mean? Like, let's freaking go. But let me just [1:34:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: scroll here too, and then that's gonna be the future is doomscrolling ads. [1:34:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: You can. Yeah. I just wanted to add two points real quick, guys, if you if you guys don't mind me pivoting a little bit. First, when I got in in the... With regards to the TikTok conversation, I got mad. I was doing a whole video on Robinhood. You guys remember when Robinhood... Well, I don't think everyone else does, but I think, Landy, I'm sure you know you remember when Robinhood was, like, at $7 because they stated that they... It it was after the whole GameStop saga where they wouldn't let people buy stuff. So I did a whole video on that, and it got instantly instantly banned. But I kinda just wanted to pay very real quick, guys. So I received this notification. I kind of... I pinned I pinned it to the top. And, Landy, I know you watch the bond market very closely. And Walter Bloomberg posted a few a few minutes ago that The US ten year treasury yield is up over 4%. It's the highest it's been since early September. Is there something we need to be watching out for the for the bond market? I... And I I know from my understand... From what I've seen, Trump also watches the bond market. Right? We saw his reaction when the bond market really bad in April. And throughout last year, every time the bond market signaled trouble, there was a pivot. So what is it you're looking at, and and what do you see now? Is there something that we should be aware of based on the rise in the ten year yield? [1:35:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real quick, Lendi, right before you chime in on this question, guys, I'm gonna do the giveaway. So make sure that you get your like, comment, and quote tweet out now. If you're here, you do have to be in the space to win the giveaway, and I'm gonna pull it right after Lendi is done. Lendi, go ahead. [1:36:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So we were just on a different space, and it was called Treasury Edge. So it was... Had nothing to do with anything else. I was not cheating. If it's a tech... I get it on a technicality even though Kate was buying that account. What? Yeah. It's a technicality. Technical technical foul. Alright. So funny thing that I had said on that stage right as you had left, Nat, was... Or maybe you were still there. I said that one of the things that I am not seeing just yet is a trade out of bonds and then a trade out of the dollar, and that's exactly what we're seeing right now. Right this very moment, we are seeing the trade out of bonds and the trade out of the dollar. [1:36:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's exactly why I asked the question. Go ahead. [1:36:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So what does this mean longer tail? Look. One of the things that I know... And I I I agree and disagree with with other macro analysts. I think that they're generally correct in their assessment that a lot of this is going to be a trade out of the dollar, de dollarization, but it's not totally happening. That's not exactly what we're seeing because foreign foreigners are showing up to the auctions, like, every single auction. They are in every single auction. Like, the last ten year, they were in. So what what we're likely gonna see is a little bit of gamesmanship coming into the FOMC meeting next week, which is next Wednesday. And I think part of that is let's push the yields up. We sell out because one of the things that I noticed was is we saw we saw high yield bonds in the corporate sector starting to move up, which means that there's players in the game playing the game, and that is let's move money around. Let's see if we can't force the Fed's hand. Because if they have to not... If they knock down rates again, now they have to start... Well, if it's starting to get towards that longer end, and we're not just talking about, you know, the the one month, you know, or four week auctions and up to our, you know, fifty two week auctions, now we're starting to get out towards the longer end of the curve. Right? We're kinda middle curve right now. And can we get them to start QE ing and flatten this thing out? Right? So if they flatten things, they can stagnate the economy here in The United States, and that's stagflation. Like, true stagflation is if they can flatten things out or maybe even get them to invert again. And a lot of people think like, oh, Fed can totally control this. No. They can't. The market controls this. And and there's tons of market participants domestically that have a vested interest in flattening things out here because it would be politically expedient to do so, especially coming in towards the end of the month. So if you could start flattening the curve as as we head into the end of Powell's tenure, then you create a very nasty predicament for the incoming Fed chair where they have to make some choices. You gotta let the long end go, which means that's not QE, but you are gonna have to farm the short end for liquidity. Right? Now those swaps on the short end, they can keep providing liquidity, and then you you you have the long end not take off. So you have a few different scenarios or a few different battles going on here. And I wanna frame this real quick. So give me just a moment. Democrats don't want Trump in office. Right? They would love to flip the they would love to flip the house at minimum or flip the senate. One of the two. Both would be great for them. And there's a few different strategies that are gonna play out, and they're all gonna affect you and your pocket. Right? That first strategy is we can shut things down by shutting the government down, right, which is why you see the whole filibuster conversation happening right now. It's not really about what you think it's about. It's about keeping the government open and then, of course, the SAVE Act and, like, all this other stuff, but it's really about keeping the government open and preventing them from stopping what's happening from the administration's domestic policy. But this also bleeds over into finance because if you can hamper this current administration through your through your special interest groups that are all the big banking friends that are are in the game, and you can flatten the curve, you can try to reinvert it, essentially. And this is a lot of companies that have to hold treasuries can do this too, and the banking industry can do this too and try... Start to apply pressure to the administration via their swaps through the Fed and via their their overseas swaps as well. So what they would like to do is try to even reinvert that curve, get the the short end of the curve a little bit further up and put the Fed in a predicament where they cut rates, have to lower that curve. But then there's a counterplay to that, and the counterplay is that we don't QE. We keep the long end down and slam the short end to zero. And that's actually what Trump's agenda is going forward and Bissent's agenda is. So what you're gonna see is a power struggle playing out in the bond market, but it's actually related to domestic policy here, and it's related to markets at the end of the day and the money here at home. And there's vested interest in exporting the control of our money here at home to overseas, and that's the real crux of the battle that's happening right now. So you're seeing it play out real time. What does that mean for things like Bitcoin? Buy more if it goes down. Welcome. Thank you for attending [1:42:00] Voice K: my That's awesome. [1:42:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll allow the cheat just for that just for that fire. That was good insight. Good question, Matt. And... Yeah. [1:42:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And I just wanna add a a little tid... Tidbit to that. And with regards to Powell, his term ends in May, but he does have the option of staying on the board until 2028. Correct? [1:42:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yes. He does. [1:42:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. But I... And I I don't think that he would actually be a bad board member. I think that he would actually go with whatever way the win would go because that's what he does anyway. He's proved... And and look. I actually... I I I know people like him. He navigated some rocky waters for the economy, and he kinda threaded the needle. But remember, when he was threading that needle, who got hurt? Who got hurt when he was threading that needle? For everyone that wants to give him props, remember who got hurt when he was threading that needle because he was late to the game. He chose not to actually hammer down hard on inflation before it started to happen, and everyone here in The United States paid the price. And if you were overseas, you also paid the price through those swap lines. So understand that all those that praised him and are praising him now, like, I think he did a pretty good job, or I'm gonna give him the benefit of the... No. He created that situation. He saw it coming, and he could have done something about it, and he chose not to. Now that's because he was over... [1:43:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, is it me? [1:43:36] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Nope. Nope. I can't hear me. [1:43:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: The Fed is at now. [1:43:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can hear me? Let... That last sentence. Let me finish that last sentence. [1:43:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was just saying that that one of the things that you have to understand is he was being an overt political player as much as you wanna say that he wasn't. He was. And he has the one that has now ushered in the the politicization, the overt politicization of of the Fed. [1:44:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's that word? Say that word one more time? [1:44:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: I can't say it. [1:44:05] Voice K: I'm Polygogization. Me. Go ahead. [1:44:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Politization? Politization. Politization. Politization. [1:44:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Cyber. Cyber. Cyber. [1:44:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: And and another thing... And and I guess I'll I'll hand the mic over to you, David. I'm so sorry. With regards to the government shutting down, they have until January 30. Right? So in layman's terms, what they're working on is, the spending bill for the remainder of the year. If that [1:44:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: And also, yeah, not... Milo put in the in the comments that it's not gonna be a full shutdown. Lawmakers are not part of full year. [1:44:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. [1:44:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [1:44:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. That's what I was gonna say next. Go ahead. [1:44:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. But just understand that with their... The partial is is exactly that. It is partial. If you look at the sections that they're looking to work on funding, there's certain carve outs there. Right? And it's all, you know, with... It's highly targeted. Right? So this is where they could they could slow certain things down in the agenda that they wanna get slowed down. And it's very likely that they're gonna move forward with that slowdown. But understand that both parties are participating in this. It's a it's a cat and mouse game, and we will be stuck in the middle. And when we get a new Fed, we're gonna get stuck in the middle of a giant giant fight. And it's gonna be a fight not just... You see it forming right now. This fight is over monetary systems here in The United States as it relate... As it relates to England. And everybody's looking at China and Russia, and it's China and... No. It is all about England right now. And you can see you can see it starting to break out with the Greenland conversation and NATO and the EU, and and they... And and everybody's getting [1:46:01] Voice K: a little [1:46:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: freaked out by what Trump is is is attempting to do, and they think that it's about land in Greenland. It's way bigger than that. This is a financial fight, and it is a financial fight between The United States and our western allies. And if you don't think it is, I suggest doing a little bit of... Little bit more research on that because then you can also track it down through the bond markets and some of [1:46:29] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: those moves that everybody thinks is China. It's not. Hey, Vandy. Didn't UK back out of their stance on Greenland because the risk... They're, like, facing a recession with all this tariffs that they're dealing with from The US? [1:46:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well... Okay. So nuance there. You... You're talking about kind of their stance on sending the military there? Okay. [1:46:55] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Yeah. Yeah. [1:46:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Not necessarily. That is not purely the reason, and I don't even think they totally backed out of that. I think that they want to take... They've indicated that they would like to take the diplomatic approach because Trump was like, see this over here? I see this big piece of paper that I printed on, a copy paper. It says tariff. Here you go. Here's your sign. Right? And I do think that one of the reasons why Canada wants to be really involved in this as well is Canada's entire financial system is linked to The UK. Right? And now they they... Canada, The UK wanna create a bridge to kind of settle things down around the Greenland conversation. And Trump... Look. You can love him or hate him because he's like a bull in a China shop, but this deal has been going on. We've been trying to get Greenland for a very long time, and there's a lot of politics that have... That people don't think about surrounding Greenland, and a lot of it has to do with the new routes that are gonna be opening through the Arctic. So there's there's all kinds of weird political stuff that's going on, but this is a monetary fight, and they don't wanna lose it. So in part, you are correct that, yes, this is being taken into consideration, but I really do think it's because they can't hang with the bull in the China shop when the bull is wrecking all of the China actively. You don't wanna get in the way of that. You wanna wait till the dust settles. And I think that's the approach. They they tried to play hardball. They realized Trump will just do tariffs and and stuff like that. Gotta remember when he's talking about the tariffs like that, it is literally just talk. Because even if he implements it, a lot of people don't realize is we already have tariffs on certain things. Think about one of the one of the reasons why we can't get the Hilux truck here in The United States. If you didn't know why you couldn't get the Hilux truck here, it's because they're not willing to put a third row seat in it. Right? Because it's all about cargo stuff. Right? And that's to protect the American auto industry here, and that that has been around for, what, like, forty years, fifty years now. Never taken off. Right? All he's doing is waving around the same tariffs as if it's new, saying, like, hey. I'm going to make it worse for you because you're already hurting, and this is where they have major problems in their economies. And if we can hit them in the economy, great. But also, maybe don't try to to mess with The United States and the military or you might find yourself missing in the middle of the night too. And I think that's... That's not really gonna do that, but that would be hilarious. [1:49:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bleeding from your nose, not knowing what the f happened. Anyways, good stuff, Landy. Okay. Guys, final push. This is it. I'm gonna select the winner now. I'm literally loading up the tweet. Great ATC space today. Amazing. [1:49:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: I appreciate the win. I... Yeah. I... I've always wanted a Lumi NFT, and now I finally got one. I appreciate I'm glad you spun. [1:50:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wendy, nobody... Literally, none of us up here said that you won anything. I don't know what [1:50:09] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: you No. [1:50:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I thought I'm gonna accept my [1:50:11] Voice F: No. [1:50:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Wait. What had happened... No. No. No. That's not it. [1:50:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: See, what had happened was [1:50:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is like... You guys ever watch family guy with, like, what's her name? The maid? She's [1:50:20] Moni @monitalan: like, no. [1:50:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. [1:50:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Consuela. I'm with Consuela. Exactly. Consuela. [1:50:28] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: That meme coin. Fuck Consuela. Okay. [1:50:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. You hear me? I'm gonna spin. I'm gonna spin. What am I doing? Hey. I'm going to win. I'm going I'm going [1:50:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: to That was [1:50:41] Voice J: before it didn't slip. [1:50:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm going to pick the winner. Hold on with this BS alone. Where's this shitty asshole? [1:50:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: He put his he put his name in there. It's just [1:50:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: the name. It's just the... No. No. No. No. No. You can't win. You have a Lumi... Lumiati, Matt. I'm sorry. Wait. Right? Shit. I don't [1:51:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: like it. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. [1:51:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, thank god. Okay. So Nat Nat can't win. I gotta pull again. And the winner is Prez. Let's go. Prez will. Where's the... And you wanna have the [1:51:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Prez is... [1:51:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. [1:51:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Shout out to Prez. Yeah. Prez has been coming through to these spaces for a minute. Big supporter of us, obviously, at ATC, and and, obviously, everything we've been doing, obviously, in Infofy. F all of you bots that literally just showed up at the last minute. Suck it. You guys are not winning. Prez, congratulations. Yeah. I hope you enjoy. Prez, send me your wallet. Nobody make a a fake account pretending that they're Prez because I promise you I already have a going conversation with Prez. Yeah. It is what it is. Coincong, go make some food, bro, instead of throwing thumbs down. Bro, get out of here. What is Coincong doing? It's crazy. We need to support the people of this space. Coincong, make me some food, bro. I'm hungry. I'm gonna go eat, but that's amazing. [1:52:06] Voice K: I feel ripped off. [1:52:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: I feel like I feel like... [1:52:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, you guys you started giving an acceptance speech before I even literally loaded the tweet. [1:52:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Thanks. I appreciate it. [1:52:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Thanks. [1:52:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know how many times I quote tweeted this and and put it out there? I even put it out on my Facebook. [1:52:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe once. I saw, you know, Olamide literally Olamide and Tommy, they put it out maybe, like, 15 times. [1:52:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay? Now I'll never now I'll never get to experience... No. I'm just kidding. I have one. Yeah. [1:52:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. But, Pres, congrats. Amazing stuff. Guys, I know we went a little bit over, but this was really great combo. The last thing I did wanna say is I pinned up to the top the tater trader tweet where if you wanted to if you want to essentially predict, not gamble or bet, if you wanted to predict on tonight's champion... College football championship game between Miami and Indiana, you have the opportunity to do so. All you gotta do is click into that tweet. Literally, just... You already have a wallet attached to your Twitter account. Link your x account. Go to tatertrader.quickintel.io, and you're good to just comment how much you wanna put on there, and you're Gucci. You are good to go. [1:53:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Money is on Bad Bunny. [1:53:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Bad bun... That's the Saint of Super Bowl, Natalie. [1:53:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: I know. It's in February. In I'm just... That was just a reminder that Bad Bunny will be the one performing at the Super Bowl. [1:53:24] Moni @monitalan: And, Chris, quick question though. Then how do we add money to take... Taylor? You [1:53:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: literally can send... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So because you have an account already linked to your to your Twitter, once you actually, like, go to tatertrader.quickintel.io, like, you'll see a full on dashboard, and it automatically creates an embedded wallet for you, right, using Para. The same way that, you know, Banker does Privy and all these other platforms are using Privy. It's the same exact way. You'll see you'll have an an EVM wallet and a Solana wallet. And the only thing you're gonna need is USDC on Polygon in order to do it, but you can send over whatever. Right? There's 25 different chains. So whatever you have, you can absolutely send it over to Tater, and then you could just tell them to bridge over to to Polygon, you're good to go. The other thing I did wanna mention, I finally got through the insomnia legal team. We signed off on the agreement today. ActionFi is coming to Tater. We are going to be launching a Insomnia campaign very, very soon. We're just literally chatting with them now about the specifics of the campaign, so I'm super excited about that. Guys, this... The timing couldn't be more perfect, so please go get involved with Tater. I really want you guys in, and if anybody that's predicting tonight, 74% so far in the... 74% on Indiana and 27% on Miami. I know X Factor went Miami, but you got a shot. Coin Kong, anything you wanna say, bro, before freaking we go? You better come up with some you better come up with some [1:54:51] Coinkong @coinkong: Yeah, bro. Hey. Listen. First off, Lanny, I wanna say thank you. I actually got a lot of good tidbits from you. I just started on my TikTok journey and stuff. I put out a ton of fucking videos. If check out my profile, you'll see a bunch of videos I just got put up, on my ex that's coming from TikTok is where I'm starting it from. So thank you for all the tidbits you got today. And, yeah, Dave, I'm [1:55:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: putting out fucking videos, bro. Go like my post, dick. Find his ass, [1:55:18] Voice K: not to me. [1:55:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Find him. [1:55:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do you know about it, H Mart? Yo. If you don't, you're And, [1:55:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: actually, didn't you say, like... Didn't you say you had to be in the space? Like, Prez isn't in the space, bro. [1:55:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: He was in the space. [1:55:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's not in the space. About the wrong Prez, bro. You're talking [1:55:32] Voice F: about the [1:55:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: wrong Prez. Let me tell you something, bro. I'm not... No, bro. No. I'm not talking about it. [1:55:37] Moni @monitalan: Listen, it's there. Right? [1:55:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Prez is here. [1:55:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: But I clicked [1:55:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: on I clicked [1:55:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: on CoinCon's profile, like, as soon as he came up, and I was like, I freaking love the first line of his bio. Or he was trying to just online and, like, their tweet later, and I'm like, yes. I need to follow you now. [1:55:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Bro, let me tell you something. Alright? [1:55:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Argue with David. Poincon is [1:55:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: a larp. Right? Don't follow Poincon. [1:56:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. His... I I [1:56:01] Voice K: follow him too. [1:56:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: I follow him. His content just made me so hungry, David. [1:56:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. Exactly. Until we get food. Yeah. You know that... Remember when you were a kid and you, like, somebody brought cupcakes in and it was like, oh, there's only, like, five cupcakes, and they would give it out to, like, individual people? You don't do that. Right? Like, you come for ATC. You give to the whole class when con... That's how [1:56:19] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: it's working. [1:56:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: When LA, bro. When LA. Okay. That's awesome. When LA. Cesspool, bro. I left that cesspool way long. I'm the bro. [1:56:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: My cat be back in constantly in janky Hollywood. [1:56:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right. You are not wrong. I come back to play for a little bit. You know what I mean? Because I'm a freaky motherfucker, but it is what it is. West West Hollywood is not regular Hollywood. You know what [1:56:37] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: I mean? Just because you go to [1:56:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: the Abbey and stuff, it's the same thing. Sit me down. I didn't say West Hollywood. I'm a little in the hills. I'm a little in Bevel... In Beverly Hills. You know? Uh-huh. Exactly. Depends what the [1:56:49] Voice K: night of the party. [1:56:51] Voice J: You're revealing a lot, Dave. You're revealing so much that you you don't realize. [1:56:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen, guys. Okay? Don't give me shit. Alright? I'm the host of this damn show, and I deserve my respect. Koin Kang, thank you for coming up. I'm sorry that you lost. Sucks to be you, but congratulations again to Prez. I hope y'all are good. Have a good night, ladies and gents. We are out. [1:57:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let's go, bad bunny. [1:57:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bad bunny. Bunny. Bad bunny. Bunny. Bad. Bad.
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