A Tuesday show as BTC broke below the $74-75K area, hosted by Dave with NatNat, Kool, Landy, Moni, Marni, Bread, Agent Naeem, GhostyAI (a newer chartist), Beast Panda (labeled 'Theo'), X Factor (Voice E) and Rookie (Voice N). Marni says she banked over 230% on gold, silver and copper trades on Hyperliquid at 20x. NatNat explains that price is gravitating to liquidity levels (the 80K break swept 75-74K, with Coinbase liquidity at 70-68K) and that every pump gets sold while price action is weak. Landy officially calls a bear market on the monthly structure break, says rallies are for selling in the near term, and lays out levels as discussion (67-70K, then mid-to-low 60s; a 100-period EMA magnet implying the mid-40s in a deep bear or about $55K in a gentler one). He tells listeners to stay around because bear markets are when accumulation happens, and to buy the red, not the bounce. Ghosty walks through his bearish case (risk/reward from 15K to 125K, the 93.5K yearly-open rejection, a bear flag, MAs and diminishing drawdowns); Dave and Kool stick to DCA, and Kool urges focusing on one or two projects. On silver, Landy says a hold above 70 is consolidation while below 70 puts $50 before $130 in play. Moni asks whether projects should TGE in a bear; Landy says real builders can launch anytime and points to the Zyber agent-rails thesis. Landy and Ghosty debate Strategy (MSTR): no liquidation price, about $2.3B in cash reserves for runway, short interest around 9%, and why a takeover-to-liquidate is implausible; BMNR is called much weaker. Other topics: the Binance SAFU fund buying $1B of BTC, Binance's brief withdrawal issue, Ghosty's TGLS stock watch (fundamentals, no buy), Cramer's book, Polymarket/Kalshi's free grocery store, the SpaceX-xAI merger with a possible June IPO, xAI crypto job openings, and NatNat as an impartial Zyber content-war judge. Kool closes on patience. Market levels are discussion, not advice.
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# 🎙️All Things Crypto: Max Pain Please $BTC | 2026-02-03 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1OdKrOXwZzeGX | status: approved # Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed. [0:00:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crypto. [0:00:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: The page. Every take a gem, every call a check. [0:00:28] Voice J: We don't follow trends. We... Why create momentum? I'm from credit, fight, change. We've been a system. They talk TV. We talk [0:00:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: tokens and truth. We don't miss the web. We are built up booth. We don't chase coins. We [0:02:00] Voice J: chain verse. X factor out. Big nose big heart heart. Gotta die energy from the very first Charlotte Samara, she's the real disruptor. Bringing out love back back. Crypto conductor. We don't chase coins. [0:02:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: We chase conviction. Sup, y'all? Sorry. Cool. ONB, what up, Blayne? [0:02:18] Voice J: What's good morning, Naeem? What up? [0:02:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: DocNooNoo Nifty, Nat, Milo, what's good? [0:02:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jam, Lapis, what up? [0:03:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. What's good, everybody? Max Payne, please. Hopefully, everybody's doing well. What's up? Welcome to ATC. Hope y'all are doing good. Yeah, man. It's a... I just woke up from the old man nap, so it's good. Yeah, man. Hope everybody's doing well. Cool. What's up? [0:03:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great talk. Nat, what's up? [0:03:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I am doing well. I am running off, like... I think it's, like, forty two minutes of sleep. So if I... Guys, if I start speaking a completely different language, as you know, language... You know the rules, just smile and nod. Okay? Smile and nod. I'll I'll I'll come too. Okay? [0:03:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Eventually, he'll come back around. Fair enough. Hey. Listen. You got it. This is this is what you gotta do, mom. Landy, what's good? [0:04:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, my positioning in the market is good. My health is good. Yeah. There's... Other than that, there's a lot of bad shit going on, but also there's good shit. Like, the SAVE Act might go through without a filibuster. We signed in a budget, apparently, finally opening the government back up. Let's see. What else is good? That's about it right now. I could probably think of a few more things that are good, but then I could also stack that up with the other piece of bread on the sandwich of all the bad things that people are experiencing right now. [0:04:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. BCC Max Payne, bro. Max Payne. Does Moni does Moni have a Android? Because I feel like her her... Like, Moni, I can't accept you. I don't know what's going on. I have no idea what's happening. Like, you need to fix [0:05:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: your hear me? [0:05:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, you're here. Oh, shit. I don't know. [0:05:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: You did accept me. So do you have an Android? [0:05:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I don't have an Android. [0:05:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm just kidding. I see I see you as a listener on my end, and it says you're requesting again. Oh my god. [0:05:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's [0:05:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Claire Power. So [0:05:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: it's He's [0:05:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: damn it. [0:05:20] Moni @monitalan: It's x. Or are you doing this because we're competing? [0:05:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Now Okay. You know, naturally naturally can't tell a lie. It's impossible for naturally to lie. So you'd like... If it's happening and she's corroborating, [0:05:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: I promise you. Oh, something's happening to your ex, girly. Like, it says you're dropping off and you're requesting a... Elon doesn't like me or Elon. Elon? Elon. Elon. [0:05:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Elon. [0:05:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Good. Monie... Yeah. Monie, I'm a need you... I can't be looking at this the whole... That is... It... That's too much of a... Monie, if you can, I I love you forever? Just drop drop and come right back. I promise you because that is gonna drive me crazy. Yeah. That's gonna drive me nuts. Samara, what's good? Welcome. Hey, JM JM Dave. JM Cool. JM Nat Man. JM Landy. Shout out to you guys, man. Yeah. I see, David, you changed your PSP. Yo. That's cool. [0:06:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah, man, shout out to you. Y'all got jokes earlier. [0:06:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. That's the that's the NFC collection. He he mentioned on the space that they were collection of roaches, which turned out not to be roaches. [0:06:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Now you need [0:06:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: to use bro. Now that [0:06:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: it's [0:06:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: all [0:06:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: red, like, be like there's a [0:06:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: roach that's wearing, like, a gold chain. [0:06:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is not this is not... What happened to, hey, guys. My son's a little sick, so I'm a be [0:06:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: a little busy because I'm [0:06:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: very busy now. Is you busy? [0:06:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I'm actually still available right now. [0:07:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is ridiculous. Naeem, you see what you did, bro? That's Naeem. Naeem is the roach or was the roach. It's not this. Like, Yuki's aren't roaches. This is me dug down in the New York City subway. Look at me. Look at me. I'm, like, hard to AF. You know what I'm saying? [0:07:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is a nice a nice NFT. You got the hat, and and you know what? Can... Yeah. I can tell, like, the gold chain [0:07:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Click on that. [0:07:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Click on that. [0:07:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see the gold mic? You see the gold mic in the hand too. Right? [0:07:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's what [0:07:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: gold chain, and it's not green on the side. So it's legit? [0:07:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. They went from the short guy to the duck to the gangster. So it's just weird to see. It's it's weird to see for real. Bro, there's a evolution out here. Okay? It might not be your typical evolution. It's a web three evolution. Alright? That's ridiculous. Yes, Mona. You are back. I see you. [0:07:53] Moni @monitalan: Okay. Just wanted to be sure you saw me and I... Everything was fine. [0:07:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Got you. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Why can't I jabber get through intros? Landy, go ahead. What's up, Bob? Can [0:08:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: you can you see me okay? [0:08:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: My Yeah. My visible. You fine. You're sitting on your nuts the same way that you do every single day. I got it. I see it very clearly. [0:08:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: So I think he's a little tilted this time. Right? Like, he's more tilted than usual. [0:08:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, his head's always been that way. You know? Like, it's, like, a little, like... Yeah. [0:08:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hasn't... I'm like, yeah. [0:08:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. It could be, but, like, it's, like, tilted. But, like... Because his smile is so wide, you don't really notice it. You know? So it's just like you know? Weird. Anyways [0:08:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: see you with this. [0:08:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Those are his nuts. Look at him sitting on his nuts. So that's literally just a tuxedo draped over nuts. Like, it's the weirdest thing ever. Cool's officially rugged. Hold on. Nice. Alright. Cool. We'll bring you back. Mhmm. And poop. This is great. The ex is loving me today. Marni, GM, what's up? How are you? [0:09:06] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Hello. Hello. I am a very happy girl. I smashed smashed some trades last night on gold, silver, and copper up over 230%. Woo hoo. Very nice. And then I put all the profits into the vaults. So I'm sharing the wealth and also traded the vault, and it was up today. So I'm I'm just a happy camper. I'm just sitting here being happy. [0:09:37] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Let me let me ask [0:09:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: you something, Martin. [0:09:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sorry. Who are you? [0:09:42] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Hey. It's Ghosty. Hey. What's up, Dave? Thanks [0:09:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: for bringing me up. Ghosty. [0:09:46] Voice J: I was like, who in the fuck is inter... [0:09:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go... Sorry. Go ahead, Ghosty. [0:09:50] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: No. I just wanted to ask her, like... I mean, to go... To get that percentage, do you use options or or leverage? Or [0:09:57] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Oh, yeah. I trade on hyperliquid. [0:10:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. She's on hyper she's on hyperliquid maxi. [0:10:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Got it. 20 [0:10:06] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: x on all of them. [0:10:09] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Gotcha. Yeah. I I wasn't sure. That's why I wanted to ask you if you did leverage or or just some put options. [0:10:18] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Nope. Just hyper liquid, baby. [0:10:20] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Nice call, Marty. Congratulations. Hey, guys. May I post something on the Nest? I was pretty vocal last year about the potential PayPal PayPal drop. And, actually, today, it it hit my target. It hit my target. [0:10:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: But I... [0:10:37] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Yeah. If... May I? [0:10:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so don't post anything yet. Go see if you can, but we are gonna tell... There is a PayPal story that we are gonna cover. But just hang out for a couple. We're gonna get to the new stories in a bit. Alright? So just, like like, hang tight. But, yeah, but there's definitely a lot for us to cover in regards to PayPal and a million other stories, so just hang tight for a little Yeah. Let me just get through and say what's up to everybody else. The number one cockroach name, you see what you did, bro? Like, I don't know what kind of mojo or juju you're bringing to this. Look at look at what's happening, bro. Like, this is crazy. [0:11:08] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: You're the original cockroach. I think that's what people are referring to. So... But, yeah, I'm I'm rocking my Pepe Ted... TED Talk Pepe that's got my face [0:11:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: is on. That? What is Yeah. [0:11:21] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Zoomed in Pepe. He's the TED Talk, and it's got my face on it with a funny face as well. And you can see my highlights as well. [0:11:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. What? A Pepe TED Talk. I've seen it all. That's it. I've officially officially seen it all. Anyways, welcome to everybody else that's here. Simon, what's good? The engineer, nifty, AMG. DocNooNoo, what's good? Hi, mister Charles. Good to see you. Prez, LJJC, Trip. I love this. Shaq, Shiv. We got all our regulars in the house. Cruciphixio, Milo, what up? Labbets, Cam, and everybody else that came through. Guys, we gotta talk... Yo. I even see some... Oh, man. I even see some s... What is it? SPX peeps in the building. Shout out to to Stacksy. Alright. Nat, I don't know if you could talk yet. We're not gonna talk silver now, but b t... BTC is bleeding. We're bleeding. We're bleeding. We're bleeding. What do we do, Natalee? What do we do? [0:12:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Steph, this is why... Where is Coma? This is why we were talking about Bitcoin yesterday before Coma jumped up and changed the conversation. Right? So these are the levels that matter. We have to look at the the levels because, especially, the liquidity levels because we're seeing how price continues to gravitate towards these liquidity levels. Right? Last week, we were talking about... I mentioned... Landy and I actually both mentioned, and Landy mentioned it on his videos multiple times. Right? That 80 k area, if we break below 80 k, we're gonna we're going to sweep the 75 to 74, and we're seeing it now. Right? And yesterday, I also mentioned that, guys, while we are oversold on on on the short term time frame, the price action continues to be weak. And when price action is weak, every every, like, slight pump to the upside will be sold off. Right? In addition to that, there is liquidity from Coinbase sitting between 70 k and 68 k. Right? So I wouldn't be surprised if price gravitates towards that at some point. Granted, as we've seen over and over, it doesn't get there overnight. Usually, we see price to linger... Accumulate a little bit, try to move up a little bit, and then at some point, we get that wick that picks up the liquidity at those liquidity zones. Right? That is why these levels matter, and these levels are important. I wanna hand it over to Landy now because Landy said something very interesting, very important in the previous space that we were in, which is something he alluded to that he needed to see in order to confirm something a few weeks ago. [0:14:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's with the t's? Important Lenten. What's with the t t t t's today? [0:14:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just go with it, man. I'm running off, like, two minutes of sleep. [0:14:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Lenten, go ahead. So [0:14:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: we officially have a structural change on the longer term time frame. Many of you might remember last year, summer of last year when I was talking about seeing a local top around a 123 to a 125. When we eventually did get that local top at a 123 to a 125, which it did not close above, but it did swing above. So I missed it by, like, whoo, over a thousand dollars, $1,200 on that call, but we didn't close above it, more importantly. I mentioned that this is a local top. Many were very early to saying, hey. This is a macro top. And I said, I'm okay being late to this call. When we see structure break, I'll call it what it is. It is now a structure break on the monthly time frame. We are in a bear market, folks. Welcome. Welcome to the fun. We are officially in a bear market. Now most of you might have met me when we were coming out of a bear market into a bull market, And what you need to understand about Landon over here is I'm a big fan of bear markets. Bear markets are the most fun markets. You think like, oh, no. No. No. No. No. Bull markets. We all love bull mark... No. I'm sorry. You love to get wrecked if you love bull markets because bear markets are the actual time to get in and accumulate and make money. Now if you had listened to Nat myself, you probably already would have been short these markets a long time ago because even though I didn't call it a macro top, I told you where I went short and so did Nat. And we've been talking about all of the levels in the way down and how we are shorting and how we're playing the market and how we're hedging and what we're doing and... Oh, yeah. By the way, called the top on silver. Anyway, look. You need to understand that if you go away during this time period, during a bear market, no matter how long it is or how short it is, you are going to miss the opportunities that you look back at $15,500 on Bitcoin and $800 ETH and whatever else. You look back at those and go, man, I wish I was around. Well, guess what? If you're around right now, you can be around for when the round bottom comes in. And that's when you wanna grab that round bottom in your hand and be like, look. [0:16:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love grabbing round bottoms. [0:17:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. This is my round bottom. Alright? [0:17:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. I can't do that. [0:17:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't grab them, don't you? Because... Get out of here. [0:17:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. But what what Nat is what Nat is trying to say is, hey. We know that he's gonna call it when he's gonna call it, and I'm calling it, and I know that he's gonna call it soon. She even said this about a week ago. You're gonna call it soon, aren't you? And I said, yeah. I think you're right. We're probably gonna be calling this a bear market soon. And you're gonna be thinking, well, all it did was sweep $74.04. It didn't, like, close under there. No. That's a broken structure on a monthly time frame. We are in bear territory. That means all the rallies from here are for selling in the near term, and we need to see a nice round bottom come in. Or if we don't get a nice round bottom, we need to see some structural change occur. So beware of those upside moves. They're gonna be fun and exciting. We're probably getting ready for a daily, maybe even a weekly. That doesn't rule out we won't go further down first before doing so, but we're very likely in that period where we will start to see bounces. We just entered the March 2024 to October 2024 range for a nice little test, nice little little sweep. Right? That is a massive, massive zone of interest. You're probably gonna see this area maybe even get tested again in the near term even if it does look... Try to bounce from here. One of the biggest things, though, is anywhere below $75,000, you're realistically... We're looking 68 to 70. I would even say that 60 seven's in play. That's that nice point of control down here. And if we start losing that, we're looking mid sixties to low sixties probably pretty quickly, but it is a big, big zone of interest. So when you see all the accounts eventually say bottoms in when it starts to bounce on the daily and then called it after they deleted, like, 90 of their posts that say that it won't pass a 100. It won't pass 95. It won't pass 90. It won't pass 85. 80 is the bottom, baby. [0:19:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: This is the bottom for real for real this time. [0:19:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, we're [0:19:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: up It's... Yeah. 70 gonna hold up. [0:19:13] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: You don't know... You you don't know [0:19:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: what you're talking about. I talked to my big hedge fund buddies, and they said that they're gonna be buying there. Well, guess what? They just got wrecked because they're quick out of their position. So good luck to them. Don't pay attention to them. Pay attention to people who actually know what the hell they're talking about in these markets, and bearish periods can have... You know, bear markets can have nice bullish movements in price and alts. And the next thing you're gonna see is when it actually pumps. Everyone's gonna say, post having minor capitulation, I'm gonna touch on later. Alt season, baby. Alt season, it's it's finally here. Dave [0:19:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. [0:19:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Are you prepared for alt season? [0:19:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Are you... Dave's gonna be followed by a big rag handle to them. [0:19:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what they mean by alt season? We had our alt season. It was called you should have bought commodities back in 2023 and 2024. That was your alt season, baby. Alright? You missed out. Alright? There is no alt season. Alts are dead. They're all going to zero. Alright? Every single altcoin that you [0:20:18] xFactor @xFactorPOL: own in [0:20:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: your bag is gonna be negative zero. [0:20:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: Alright? Buy Buttcoin. [0:20:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, actually, that wasn't a bad play. [0:20:24] Voice N: You just love, Randy, you just love to see us getting fucked. Okay? Like... Yeah. [0:20:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. Remember when I called, hey, rookie. Hey, rookie. [0:20:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Remember when called [0:20:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: the top on memes, and you all got really mad at me, and everybody wanted to literally knife me and find me in my home and bury me in a pillow and just put me to sleep. [0:20:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Yo. [0:20:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I was like, your meme coins are never coming back. [0:20:48] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: They're dead. Danny's a cockroach too? [0:20:50] Voice N: Yeah. I got it right, man. [0:20:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: You you went 100. I'm insane. [0:20:53] Voice N: You know, like, I wish I wish Nobu were here, like, bro, you got what you wanted. Okay? Like, it's a fucking bear now. Okay? Like, I can finally, like, focus my job and study. [0:21:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: So rookie... I like rookie. I like rookie. [0:21:05] Theo @Theodrooz: Love rookie. You happy now? You... [0:21:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm glad to see rookie's back because rookie's coming back at the right time. All those motherfuckers that got washed out... Excuse me. [0:21:14] Voice J: Why don't you throw a [0:21:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: chonkla at me? [0:21:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. All of [0:21:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: them that got washed out for doing stupid stuff [0:21:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Look at this. [0:21:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: And fading me when I said that your shitcoins were shit and they were all gonna go to zero. Well, guess what? On their way to zero, they're gonna have a few more bounces. You better get out and get correct because you wanna buy real stuff at the bottom of the bear market, not garbage. [0:21:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Fine, Lindy. Six Sorry. [0:21:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fine, Lindy. 600. Yeah. Exactly. Fine, Lindy. Well, this is... There's so much I wanna say right [0:21:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: I got, like, $400,000 in fines. You know? Yeah. You Just this year alone. [0:21:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Join join the club. But, [0:21:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: guys, all jokes aside, are you guys just realizing now why we spend so much time talking about these levels and talking about... Yep. With that being said, guys, welcome to all things called it, the the bearish... [0:22:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. They... We're taking over, by the way. Nat and I were overthrowing Dave, and this is now going to... For the entire bear market, it's gonna be thick. Called All Things It. I'm sorry. [0:22:16] Voice J: All Things Cold It. [0:22:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Called It. Always called it. Ghosty, I've been looking at your... Oh my god. You're... Lately, you're probably getting ghosty mad excited. I'm looking at Ghosty's Ghosty's timeline... His profile, and he's like, head and shoulders, top here, lower term time frames, fucking lower highs. Go see. Chime in, bro. [0:22:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Go ahead. How many inverted does he have? Bro, there's [0:22:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: so many. He's there's [0:22:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: so many. He has all of them. He has all [0:22:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: of He's real quick. Do you want... Do you wanna know what this means now to after listening to Landy talk? It just means now that you all who weren't watching the videos, like me, now you have to watch the Landy fucking thirty minute videos every single day. Because guess what? You'll be able to do it. Yeah. Yeah. You'll you'll be able to do it [0:23:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: on spaces soon. They're gonna update spaces so that you can livestream at the same time with a computer, not just your camera. So we're definitely getting into chart time. [0:23:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yay. Ghosty, go ahead. [0:23:11] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Hey. Thank you, Dave. No. I mean, I I go to a lot of spaces. I go to a lot of spaces, and I rarely see good information. I loved everything Nat said, everything Landy said. Love it. Right? And I wanted to add more things. Right? Because I've been posting a lot of various things, and people think I'm a mega bear, but I'm not. I'm what the chart tells me. Right? [0:23:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I thought you were Grimace, to be honest. I couldn't really tell what the PM is. [0:23:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a little funny. It's like a Grimace bunny ghost. I [0:23:46] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: don't what p What is... What does that mean? I don't understand. [0:23:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Grimace is like it's like a it's like a character off... Not Sesame Street. That's Sesame Street. [0:23:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's it's Ronald McDonald's Oh, Ronald McDonald's. Special friend. [0:23:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a character. [0:24:00] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Gotcha. Gotcha. No. I didn't know. I didn't know. Yeah. Wanna add so many things. Like, for example, like, why I be... Why I was getting bearish? Like, I was posting a lot of bearish, for example, on Solana back at one eighty. But from a Bitcoin standpoint, like, guys, let's assume Bitcoin never cracked. Right? This is my mentality. Like, let's assume Bitcoin went to a 160 k. Let's assume that. Bro, from the lows from 15 k to a 125 k, basically, we went up 600%, give or take. So even if we... Even if Bitcoin went to 160 k, let's assume that, the risk to reward was not there. So as a... As an investor, like, I don't like that trade, you know, because that's not an asymmetric price to get in, if that makes sense. [0:24:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I would have sold at a 160 k, though, probably. You know what I mean? I might have decided sell at [0:25:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: a 125 k. [0:25:02] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Sold at the [0:25:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: proper time? [0:25:03] Voice J: Stop it. Stop it. [0:25:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Wait. Wait. Wait. Dave. No. I'm being serious. You know who actually sold at the proper time? A 72 year old couple going into a car dealership to do a car sold at the proper time [0:25:16] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: because they [0:25:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: sold the lower highs on the daily. Do you think that maybe they were like... They actually know markets, and they were like, you know what? We better do this deal now. [0:25:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, that was crazy because I remember it was it was 5 BTC, and we were like, it was 500 fifth... Bro, that was literally almost the top. And the reason why he's saying that is because we had a couple came in here on a space one time, and a buddy needed help. Like, one of my one of my friends in the space needed help because a couple came in with a paper wallet of 5 BTC, and they were like, we just need help kinda getting it off. Like, we want... Like, we don't know how to do this. The guy was eight... He was seven... I guess, 72. The guy was 82 years old, bro. And we helped him move 500 something thousand dollars off of the paper wallet live here on Spaces. Bro, my man... Yo. That dude called the tippy tippy top. Holy cow. I just realized that. [0:26:08] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo. I bet you he has hella silver too, bro. [0:26:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guarantee. You're agree? Guarantee. [0:26:13] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: That's nice for him. And and... No. And I I I wanna finish my thoughts. Like like, for example, like, if you guys take a yearly candle if you guys take a yearly candle of $20.25, the opening price was $90.93.5 k. And if you go to a daily chart, like, that that key area was rejected, like, four times, something like that, and then price broke and tested 97 k. When price rejected 97, 98 k and wasn't able to hold the 93.5 k, I said, we're going lower because we also were in a macro high time frame, a bear flag. But can I post something on the on the nest, Dave, Bitcoin Yeah? So you guys can see? Thank you. [0:27:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. You're good. You're good. Never even let Andy post on the top. So, Ghosti, you should feel special. Yeah. No. Good stuff, Ghosti. You're you're in your element here with these with these other two over here. Okay? [0:27:12] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: No. Hey, guys. I appreciate you. Appreciate you guys. Of course. Mean, I I I came into this space because I... I've I follow Nat and Landy, and I know they are legit. And and and I found you, Dave, today. Yeah. But just to finish just to finish my argument, like, back in November, if you guys see the chart, back in November 11, we had a we had a drop... Base drop formation. Right? And I was starting to see the same pattern potentially playing out again as as I highlighted in the chart. Also, I highlighted the POC, the point of control, acting as resistance. So that that plus price wasn't able to hold that... The 93.5 k gave me, like, extra confidence. We had a high probability of going down. Right? And it even, like, succeeded my expectations on how hard price was gonna go because the the pattern I'm showing you guys played out to a tee. [0:28:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate it, Ghosti. Thank you. [0:28:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And $90.93.5 was also that big weekly higher low. Once it broke down below there, started playing in those weeklies. Understand that that's what Bitcoin's doing right now is it's playing weekly structure. Like, this is gonna be the cheat sheet going forward for you all. Like, you don't have to be an expert. You can go on there, and you can look at the weekly structure where the swings of the actual structure are between the closes and the highs and the lows, and you're gonna see Bitcoin's gonna play just beautifully because that's where all the liquidity builds for those larger orders to the upside and downside. You're gonna get the daily levels and some lower term time frame stuff, but, realistically, it's gonna be the weeklies and above for those major levels, your weeklies, your biweeklys, your monthlies, your quarterlies, and stuff like that because we do have really sophisticated players playing this game now. [0:29:13] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Daniel, what are your thoughts on something on on the panel as well? So if you guys take a weekly and monthly chart, right, and and and see the previous bear markets, basically, price went down below the 50 and the 200 SMA. Price went below approximately, let's say, 30%. Right? So I was speaking in other spaces like, guys, why couldn't this potentially happen again? You know? Why couldn't it? And and and and another thing, like, we have never had two back to back red yearly candle closes on Bitcoin. So, like, I went to too many spaces and, man, like, people don't even consider scenarios. And when I see, like, people don't considering scenarios, that's a red flag for me in any asset. [0:30:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So, I mean, I have it pretty dialed in from my system and where RSI is, where momentum is, the fact that we just entered the weekly bearish control zone, how long we have to spend here typically, and it specs out to about... You know, if it's gonna... If history rhymes and doesn't necessarily repeat for where we are on a monthly versus a weekly versus a quarterly, drawdown to that 100 period SMA... Or I'm sorry, 100 period EMA like we did in the prior bear market is not out of the question. In fact, it's probably gonna act like a magnet over time. And likely, you know, for the current zone that those things are in, you're looking at a 52% drop from the last lower high just like it did last cycle because we are repeating a lot or rhyming a lot with the magnitude of drops after breaking major moving averages. And when considering volatility, I I, of course, am looking quite a bit further up than not not. But, you know, 40, you know, 46 to 48, maybe a dip below there, is fair game in the depths of the bear market. A more conservative estimate, on a gentler, less vicious bear would be somewhere towards the $55,000 level, but, you know, that would still put it right around or just slightly under the 50. We know that last time we got under the 50, price dropped about another 30%. But, you know, these are gonna rise on the monthly as as Bitcoin heads towards them. And then eventually, they will sweep over price action, and that's kind of what we were seeing in last cycle as well. And this is this is where things are things are gonna get really interesting to see how traditional market players react, your ETFs, your DATs. Are the DATs really gonna hold on to that Bitcoin, or are they gonna get shaken out? Right? Like, this is where the rubber hits the road. There's only so much time that they can do some of the models that they're doing. Sailors got plenty of runway, but how how about these smaller ones? Right? How much runway do they have? Are they actually gonna go in and get the bigger funds to actually start accumulating? But we're in a macro compression as well. So the levels that that I'm talking about have have precedence for me until broken, and then we can start looking way lower. But if we were gonna play the same way that we played before from these levels specifically on the weekly, monthly, and quarterly, we're probably looking at maybe a little bit less of a drawdown versus last cycle, but, you know, still significant. [0:33:05] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Yeah. No. Yeah. Actually, you touch an important point because from... In the 2027... In the 2017 cycle, we had a 83% drop. On the next cycle, we had a 76% drop or 77, something like that. So we can put that... I mean, we're seeing diminishing returns and diminishing losses. So even if we fall back, let's say, 67% from all time high, I mean, that will be, I mean, pretty standard in my book, to be honest. [0:33:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What what do you guys think? Yeah. It's, like, par for the course. Right? Because, like, when you really... And look. I... I'm not the technical guy like you guys. Right? But, like, for me, like, I bought more Bitcoin today. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, yeah, we might still be going lower, but I genuinely... Like, like, I I... This is the strategy for me, and it's always been, and it's never... I'm never going to waver off of this because that is the lesson that I learned the hard way where it's like, when it comes to this... When it comes to Bitcoin, like, as it continues to move down, I'm just literally DCA ing the whole time. Right? Like, I don't know how long we're gonna be in this, like, in this price range. I don't know where we're gonna go, but, you know, I look back and I bought... I also bought Bitcoin at 84,000. I also bought Bitcoin at 52,000. Right? Like, well, like... So at the end of the day, like, I'm just gonna keep layering in and layering in if I have extra money. Right? It wasn't a lot of money. I put, like, think, like, $900 or whatever, but this has kinda, like, been my strategy this whole time. Right? It goes down to $69.68. I'll put another 1,500 to 2,000 in there. You know what I'm saying? Like, just keep... But what... I'll tell you this. What is really, really reassuring, right, it... Unless you're looking at, like, your actual overall, like like, your unrealized, like... Not loss, but, right, like, looking from where you came down from at a 126,000, that... That's a little bit of a shock. But but the best part is is when you go to buy, right, if you're doing this consistently, which I am, you see how much more you're actually getting. So for a thousand dollars today, I'm looking at almost getting 0.001 BTC. That's a very, very different mental game. Yep. Yeah. It's a very different mental game where I was putting in 1,500, 2,000, and I was getting point o o, like, five five. You know what I'm saying? Like, in certain in certain spots. Right? Like, little bits at... Up at a 100, 500. Like, you realize how different and, like, what... Like, the percentage game over here and what you're getting and how much more you're actually getting now and you... Like, how you just you just keep adding to your stack. So, look, it goes to 65, sixty fifty fives. I'll back the truck up. I mean, whatever my truck is. But... Yeah. Cool. Go ahead, bro. [0:35:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. No. No. No. I'm just saying that this... We're we're getting numbers we've praying for this entire time. I just think people of... People will be paralyzed with fears as always, but, I I mean, I I always say if you have money, buy [0:35:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: the dip. [0:35:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: If you don't stay on your hands or fight all the ways to make money because if this is the bear market, like Landon said, we're probably gonna be here for six to eight months if possible. So but I... Like I said, this is the best opportunity, man, for us to, like, like I said, get get some more crypto, man. I mean, my my only advice is take one or two projects to buy. Don't don't be buying 10, 15 projects. Just one or two. That's it. But, yeah, ma'am... [0:36:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you, Pula. [0:36:24] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Thank you for that. Yeah. [0:36:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do have a question for you guys, by the way. Landing, where where is your 100 SMA on the monthly chart? [0:36:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: The SMA, I don't really use. On the monthly, I use the EMA because the SMA is... It took... It's not where... [0:36:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't get don't get too nerdy on us here, guys. It's it's [0:36:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: not... I'm sorry. I'm I'm sorry, Lenny. We'll we'll talk we'll talk about on on... In the back end. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm being real pissed. [0:36:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's at 38. Fucking nerds. So, man. [0:36:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: The the SMA is at 38. That is probably gonna work its way up to the forties or so. [0:37:04] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: It is working its [0:37:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: way up slowly because it was lower before. So I think if worst case scenario, we do get a a a steeper drop, like I mentioned last time, right, I'm looking at 40 k, but if that breaks, then I think it hits my target. If not, then it bounces [0:37:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: away from a basis right now is exactly where the 100 SMA is. So I just have the... And that tracks pretty closely. So I have the 100 EMA. So that's primarily where we... Before the bull market really kicked off in 2020 in March, we we actually bought them there at the 100 EMA, and then we bought them there again in '22 coming into '23. So, you know, there's precedence there for the EMA versus the SMA. We've never actually hit the third standard downside away from a basis. Not saying that we can't because this can compress. Like, if this bounces really hard from here and let's say we get obnoxiously high numbers on a bounce, which would likely result in a lower high, that could substantially change where all of this is. Right? But the the... In terms of volatility levels... But the the moving averages will take a while and clean that up for you. So that's where I think Nat is saying it's valuable to have that 100 period SMA on there as well. [0:38:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Thank you. Fucking nerds. Appreciate it, guys. [0:38:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Don't be hating. [0:38:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: What I'll say also what I'll say also is if you guys remember this, like, way... Like, a while ago, I remember this, like, it was yesterday, cool, when you were... We were talking when Bitcoin... Excuse me. When Ethereum was $1,615.50, and we were just like, yeah. Like, I'm buying Ethereum. Right? Like, this is like where... When Bitcoin was down, Ethereum was down. We were literally sitting in these rooms being like, this is where we gotta... You know, this this is where we're buying. You know what I mean? And you saw 60... It... ETH go from 1,600 to 4... Almost 4... Over 4,000, if I remember correctly. So this is where, like, you genuinely have opportunities. Right? Like... So don't let the opportunities pass you by. And if you're thinking, like, oh my god. But it's still early if there's a bear market and ta ta ta, like... Listen. Like, when it comes to this Bitcoin shit, like, I don't know. For me, just let... Start layering in. Like, the dollar cost average thing is something that you genuinely cannot go wrong with. Lindy, I actually have some Bitflow news for us also, but I wanna let Beast Panda go, which is, like... Yeah. I had [0:39:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: a I a great [0:39:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: chat with them today. [0:39:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And real quick, because you said something important. When you're layering in, layer into the blood, not into the bounce. Right? And when you're in a bull market, you're not going, hey. Prices are higher. I'm buying. It's when they come back down. It's the same thing in a bear market. When prices are going back up, yeah, let me let me see. Don't get FOMO'd. Just wait for it to come back down and buy the red. It's actually much more simple than any technical analysis there is. You see blood in the streets and tears on the timeline. Take a look at it. It could probably drop another 10%. Maybe that's the case. Right? Maybe you're taking that chance, but you're getting a much better entry than you would have otherwise if you're waiting for the bounce that goes up another 20% from here. Right? [0:40:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like You mean buy the red candles? [0:40:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Buy the [0:40:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: red candles. You'll sell the green at some point? Why? [0:40:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's what that's what I've been saying this whole time. [0:40:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Been saying this the whole time. [0:40:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's literally my only strategy. That's the only one I do. [0:40:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I do that. Don't you dare. Fred and I have talked about this a lot. [0:41:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Listen. I mean, look. It's this is where, like, if you have discipline. Right? And I'm not, like, I'm not a seasoned trader anymore. Right? Like, I don't do this anymore. I've been there, done that. That's what these guys do on the daily. But, like, for me, it's literally just make the money elsewhere and then put it in here. But if you can do this, right, as you see the red and you start buying... Oh, there's the house line. And you start buying, right, when you start buying, you're just kinda like, oh my god. Like, this... Like, you're looking at it. You're just... You're conditioning your brain to start buying red candles. And, like, that is really how you can get better at this whole game. Maybe it can start something for you where you're just like, okay. I see this now. Because when you ultimately see it for... With your own eyes and you're just like, wow. I am layering in. I am buying. Like, I get it. So... Yeah. V spend, go ahead. Yep. [0:41:49] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Alright. Go ahead, Panda. [0:41:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: No problem. Alright. Good. Hello. [0:41:52] Theo @Theodrooz: Good morning, [0:41:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good morning, v spend. [0:41:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hello. Good morning, v spend. I believe this question is for Andy. Right? It's on the conversation we're having yesterday. Yeah. We were... We [0:42:05] Theo @Theodrooz: were looking for him yesterday. He ran away from [0:42:07] Voice J: us. Yes. [0:42:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: So he actually has a a a good good question. [0:42:14] Theo @Theodrooz: Sorry. Is my son talking on the back? [0:42:16] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Sorry for the... [0:42:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's he's [0:42:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: okay. It happened all [0:42:18] Voice J: the time. Yeah. Exactly. Let's do that. [0:42:24] Theo @Theodrooz: Landy. Alright. I got a Harrison, thank you. I got a con... A question for you. Congress on the silver thing first. You rarely call the top nearly, and we are back into '85. So what we're thinking, we we will think fifties before we're going one thirty, or we are just gonna hold here for long term now? [0:42:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Beast am I very...... Rugging? No. You are not rugging. Beast Panda, you better be very careful. I give you a lot of leeway on this show. I give you a ton of leeway. You are not gonna come in here and throw this bet at me right now. Silver is up. Silver is up to $8,088,000. Sorry, [0:43:02] Theo @Theodrooz: Dave. We we have to think technical software. Yeah. [0:43:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big fan is ruthless. I can go go down. [0:43:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Insound, though. Silver, but not not. Silver, it's getting its daily bounce, but it broke structure. And what is more likely gonna happen from here is one of two things, a lower high or a consolidation or both. And what that results in is if it's above 70, it is... It's actually a good consolidation. If it gets below 70, 50 before one thirty is definitely in the cards. Oh, by the way, I took massive profits on that short position, but I am waiting because it's getting a nice little bounce, but it's not ready yet. It's not ready. It's just trying to now put in a daily low. You have to be patient. Let it do its thing. Let it cook. Let it cook for you. You don't need to cook. Right? [0:44:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: How is Lendi not sponsoring, all things called it? I don't understand. [0:44:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: How is [0:44:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Lendi not the sponsor of this show? Wait. Lendi should be paying all of us I [0:44:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: was just about to say that. Like, Mandy, when can we expect the check? [0:44:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Exactly. I I I... Look. I I participated in the heist a couple of months ago, and I stole trader Steve's crystal ball. And he gave it to me just to use on silver for this bet. Alright? I even called my friends on Wall Street and in Chicago and said, yo. There's a bet in one of our spaces events with the space host Dave, and he thinks that silver's gonna get to a $130 before it gets to 50. And they were like, well, I mean, we can get it there if we really need to. I was like, no. No. No. No. We're on Nat Nat's side. We cannot let this get to a $130 per ounce. And they were like, oh, say no more. Say no more. [0:44:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: And so [0:44:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: we coordinated. I started building my short. We had a little bit of a hiccup. I had to readjust my short. I pulled my stop and levered up and started to actually build it out higher. And then they were like, alright. Are you ready? And I was like, yeah. I'm ready. Are you ready? And they were like, yeah. We're ready. We wanna make sure you're ready. Is Nat ready? And we're like, yeah. Nat's ready. And then they were like, alright. Nuke it. And then they nuked the ever loving crap out of it. [0:45:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: You were ridiculously calm as you were like, oh, I'm layering it at 01:11. I'm layering it at 01:18. Layering it at one nineteen. Oh my god. My average is about [0:45:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: to one nineteen. Be more money to talk like this. [0:45:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: My god. By the [0:45:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: way no money like short money. [0:45:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: There ain't no money like short money. But, also, I said a long time ago on a space that there is there is riches greater than deities. And if you have money greater than a deity, you could just move markets for simple bets that don't even... They're just literally about posts on the Internet. [0:45:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Pivot the Polymarket, guys. Just pivot the Polymarket. That's that's that's what I'm getting from [0:46:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: all of They have the liquidity. [0:46:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: They don't [0:46:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: have to... [0:46:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait. The Polymarket and Couche are now moving on to grocery stores, aren't they? [0:46:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I saw that. That is real... Tell me you don't live in New York City without telling me you don't live in New York City. They're like, oh, a free grocery store. We donated a million dollars. You don't think that shit's gonna get ransacked to hell? Like, in what world do you think this is normal? A free grocery store in the middle of New York City. [0:46:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Crazy work. [0:46:26] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: If some... If somebody lives in New York City, I have a really detailed restaurant list if anybody wants it. Like, [0:46:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: really detailed. We're all here trying to save our money to buy Bitcoin. [0:46:36] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Are they free restaurants or what? [0:46:38] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Yes. No. No. I mean, they're they're they're they're the best of the best, to be honest. [0:46:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Gold Tea's making that short Bitcoin money. I see. Goldie, Goldie, you invited I'm in New York, bro. You wanna invite me out for dinner? Let's go on a date. What do wanna do? I'm in my I'm in my [0:46:53] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: I'm Miami I'm in Miami, but I'm a foodie, man. I'm a foodie, and I love food. And New York, for me, is the best place in America for food. [0:47:02] xFactor @xFactorPOL: True. Miami's got some great food too, bro. I mean... [0:47:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: But talking [0:47:06] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: about it, man. [0:47:06] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Let's let's go out, bro. We get a... We can have a good time. [0:47:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: After he says sus. Yeah. Let let let... Let's do... [0:47:14] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Hey, guys. May may I may I ask something to a panel? Because [0:47:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Go ahead. [0:47:18] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: I want everybody's opinion. Like, I I was also posting. I just did two more post because I do follow-up posts. I was talking a lot about the USD USDTD chart plus the USDC dominance chart. Right? And I was talking that I was seeing a lot of bullish factors. And I also was talking about the... Shit. I forgot. The... Let me see. So too too many charts, man. Too many charts. [0:47:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like You... Yeah. You... If you want... Listen. We could come back. We could come back too, Ghostie, if you want. You can take your time. [0:48:01] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: It's this one. It's this one as well. Just just this one. So I was talking about the Bitcoin Domino's chart divided by the total three. I don't know if you guys take a look at that, Nat, Landy, etcetera. Because I was seeing a lot of bullish signals on that chart and on the USD stablecoin dominance charts plus the price chart, and that's why I was getting, like, a lot of different factors on many different charts of why alts were gonna get decimated, basically. [0:48:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ghosty, you know what I you know what I envision you as right now? I have no idea what you look like, and this is just my brain and how it works. I visualize you as, like, an old man in an apartment overflowing with papers, and, like, you're looking through and, like, you're licking your thumbs, like, scratching and be like, is it this chart? Which chart is it? Let me see. Is it this... No. I don't know if it's this one, but it's here somewhere. And, like, you just have papers of charts everywhere, literally everywhere. I'm sure that's exactly what your computer looks like, but in my mind, you're an old dude that that has papers everywhere all over his house. Go see... Good stuff. And be careful with x factor. He tends not to wear pants when he goes outside. So, yeah, just be really careful. [0:49:18] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That's that's not true, bro. [0:49:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's true. That's true. It's boxers. [0:49:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I wear pants. It's just no boxers. [0:49:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. It's weird. Monie, go ahead. [0:49:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: So I have a... I think this question is for... Well, for anybody that's his answer. But I [0:49:31] Moni @monitalan: think Landy and the wonderful Wonder Woman. [0:49:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: So what about uncle? This is crazy. This is insane. Oh my for Monica. Is wild. [0:49:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: X Factor [0:49:49] Moni @monitalan: I'm yet to hear you. [0:49:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. May I ask the question? [0:49:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: It has [0:49:52] Moni @monitalan: nothing to do with with cyber. [0:49:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. Yes. Of course. [0:49:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: There were a bunch of projects that [0:49:57] Moni @monitalan: are planning TGE this quarter. What advice do you guys for those projects? Do they continue with doing TGE? Do they hold off? Okay. [0:50:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Look. You can... I've seen plenty of successful projects that launch in bear markets. And whether it's the beginning, middle, or end, really doesn't matter. If you're a builder and you're building and you can generate revenue and you have a solution to a problem and you are building a business, that's what matters. At the end of the day, projects that fail, they fail in bear and bull because they don't actually provide any solutions to problems, or they are there to purposely be extractive. And this is where, you know, we... We've seen plenty of things. Like, a lot of people don't remember the link marines having fun in bear markets. And sorry, link marines. You haven't had fun in a long time. But the link marines had a lot of fun in bear markets. In fact, a bear, all the way through, they were just going sideways and up, all the way through a bear market and into a bull market. And then, of course, we know what happened after that, but that's not the real point. The real point is is that they had something that was solving a problem. They had a good business model. They had good partners, and they were brilliant builders. And they still are. Right? And this is this is where you find that value is when everybody walks away is when you pay attention to who's actually here building. Are they building for the future? Not just for the bull market, not just for extraction, but are they building for the future? Are they pushing this industry forward in some meaningful way? And you will find some of the best value in the market that will make you rich. You know how you hear the stories about, like, oh, well, that guy caught, you know, $8 Solana. Well, guess what? Many of us did because we were here. Right? Well... And and you might think that Solana is not a great project, and that's fine. But point being is at the time, it was like, hey. This was a great project. We think it still has legs, and what did it do? It bottomed out, and I mean, it went absolutely parabolic. Right? And it was one of the first majors to do so. It was all about Bitcoin, and it was all about Solana. And then, of course, we know what happened. Solana turned into a giant casino and then took everybody's money and didn't put it into Bitcoin, didn't put it into Ethereum, didn't put it into your favorite shitcoin either, and then ended up in the traditional markets. And now they're back saying, hey. You wanna come back to the casino? We got streaming again. So, I mean, look, you can find really good stuff. So, yes, for something like a Zyber, for something like... There's other projects out there, but I'll give Zyber the the hat tip here because, you know, there's some people on stage who might be building some cool stuff there. You know, it might be part of, I don't know, contest of some sort regarding content. [0:53:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: But realistic... Wait. You're not a judge, are you? He... X Factor, he's not a judge, is [0:53:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: he? I should be, to be honest. [0:53:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. He probably should be. No. [0:53:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: I should be judging. [0:53:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: I agree. No. [0:53:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I laugh.... Only judge. [0:53:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: I laugh... I know. I laugh when when Monica asked that question because I feel like that was a perfect layup for Zyler. [0:53:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: It is. It is because they're building something that is more than just a token. It is a literal it is a literal rails for providing proof of agent to... Agent interactions. Right? Like, this is something that everybody's been crying for. And then you look at the the fervor around BoltBook and the security stuff and all this other crap. And look. Everybody's gonna be sick of crypto as it's going down. They're gonna leave and not identify opportunity, and guess where they're gonna go? Prediction markets. So have fun over there, everybody. [0:53:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just wanted to chime in on on one thing, and then I guess we can move on to the to the next door... To a story. In order... Some... This is one thing that was said to me many, many years ago. My dad was actually the first one to say it when I I was, like, 10 years old talking to him. He was actually talking to me about the American stock market and the importance of knowing when and how to to get into the right position. And one thing that he said to me back then that I will never forget is in order for you to generate wealth in the... In a bull market, you have to position yourself during the bear market. [0:54:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: What I wanna know is who is Natalie's dad? Who is your... Don't know I [0:54:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: was gonna say to. I don't know if he [0:54:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: like the Clinton yesterday, like, today. Like, is your dad like James Bond? Like, [0:54:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Jesus. [0:54:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jesus. [0:55:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: End. Perfect English. Why why gotta put this I like to speak Spanish too. I love Spanish. Right? [0:55:16] Bread @_ToastMalone: For the English speakers, yes. We gamble everywhere. [0:55:18] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Yeah. No. If I'm if I'm if if I'm interrupting the topic, I mean, I'll go, bro. I'll I'll go, guys. [0:55:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Go see. It's not that. It's just we're, like [0:55:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: because you're you're talking. Yes. You're feeding into myself and Landy. Like, that's [0:55:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: all I need them talking. Exactly. Like, it's [0:55:33] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: all my bad guys. My bad [0:55:35] Theo @Theodrooz: guys. The the the guys. The guys. [0:55:39] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: I'm I'm gonna end it here. I'm gonna end it here. So there's a good stock that I'm watching. Don't buy right now. It's not a good price right now. But from a fundamental standpoint, this company has growing revenues. They manufacture glass. They export 99% of their products from Colombia. They have 1,000,000,000 in revenues, 30% EBITDA margins, and that's insane for a manufacturing company because I used to work in manufacturing, and a great EBITDA margin was 20%. A great. So this company is called Technoglass, TGLS. I am waiting patiently to get a big dump on the stock, maybe $30 range. Don't quote me on that. I'm not sure. I'll need to check price action once we get to certain levels to see how price reacts. But from a fundamental standpoint and the projected growth of the company, I'm super bullish three years out. [0:56:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. [0:56:43] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: And and and and just to end it here, like, right now, like, as I have grown in in an investor, like, I'm not looking for place that give me 500. If those place maybe have a 50% chance of happening, I prefer to get as a 100%, but almost 90% secure of happening, if that makes sense. Like, I I I prefer, like, good risk adjusted returns opportunities that... Over profits potentials. [0:57:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: We have we have a lot of those here on ATC. Our resident quant, I'm I'm surprised he's not here. Maybe he's too fancy. [0:57:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: He called it for the stock market. Yeah. [0:57:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's too busy chilling his minerals on Wendy's... On Wendy's livestream, freaking guy. And, yeah, Ghosty, you busted my balls about posting to the top. I don't see anything, bro. You must be an Android user. Can you not post to the top? You wanted to pin to the top. Go. Post it, bro. Want pin [0:57:43] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: I don't I don't have that [0:57:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Too many chart papers in your apartment. I told you. I told you to. Too many charts. [0:57:50] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Bro, I I I don't have that post. I didn't post that on a on [0:57:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: a post, [0:57:55] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: the song. Yeah. [0:57:56] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. Alright. Go... Ghostie sounds like you could dance a killer bachata, bro. I'm just saying, dude. I'm just saying. [0:58:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: And, yeah, he said, I'm a end it here about three times. He's got, like, alternate endings with an alternate ending with another alternate ending. No. [0:58:09] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: No. I just I just get passionate. And to be honest, man, like, in many spaces, I was canceled, man. I was canceled. I'm new to spaces. Like, this is, like, my third month doing spaces or something like that, and I've been canceled, man. Like, even people don't appreciate me because I was the one of the first calling the after dump. And [0:58:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that's a tough size. [0:58:31] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Man, I [0:58:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: I remember this, actually. [0:58:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: So... Well, I'm to see... [0:58:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I see why you're getting canceled. [0:58:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. He fits right in [0:58:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: with the crew. [0:58:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was [0:58:38] xFactor @xFactorPOL: like, this is this is not the... This is not that type of space, but my my guy was probably out there on the time when everybody's shilling the Astro bags. He's like, no, bro. You guys are idiots. [0:58:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: But he fits right in, though, because I wouldn't even meet him. [0:58:49] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You jumped into a KOL space. [0:58:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my We were we were on the other space, the one that you and I met in, and we were talking about BTC dumping below a 100. Right? And this was, like, when BTC was, like, rip rip... Ripping. It was... They did this crazy god candle to, like, one sixteen, and Landy and I and a few others were like, no. We we we could see it going down even further. And we were called everything. Someone called me a moron. There's another lady on that on on that space [0:59:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: who's... Landy's a douchebag. [0:59:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Landy's a douchebag. Like... So you fit right in You fit right Here. [0:59:20] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Let me let me let me do this quick little prep. [0:59:22] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Appreciate it, Matt. Thank you. [0:59:24] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Here's here's a quick here's a quick bit from a previous phase from you, sir. It's like, alright. Here's what we got, guys. Aster came right after Hyperliquid, therefore, it's better tech. Also, z z is involved. [0:59:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's dumping [0:59:35] xFactor @xFactorPOL: millions into it. So there's no way it can go down. There's no chance it could [0:59:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: go down. Right? [0:59:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Anything that Bynan's back, he shits gold. So please leave the stage if you're talking otherwise. Thank you. Have a great day. [0:59:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then if you fast forward now, it's just like, listen. The Bitcoin super cycle is over because of FUD. Okay? [0:59:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Wait. [0:59:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're not gonna see it. [0:59:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. This is just too funny because the Binance curse is alive and well. It's so alive and well that the day after silver lists on Binance, it freaking tanks. You've got Astor. You've got now Binance coming out and saying, we're gonna have the SAFU fund. We're gonna keep it at a billion dollars in Bitcoin. SAFU. SAFU? SAFU. Oh. So the SAFU fund, for anybody that doesn't know, is they're gonna buy Bitcoin, coin, and the dollar value of the bit coin in that account is gonna be $1,000,000,000. So as price is going down, [1:00:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: they're just gonna be accumulating. [1:00:32] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Doctor Rivo's fit. $1,000,000,000. [1:00:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: $1,000,000,000. [1:00:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: And my favorite part about this is right after they announce it, the market just tanks. It's so good. I love it. [1:00:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you're telling me silver topped? [1:00:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Silver topped at the same time. You got this You heard that thing? [1:00:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. You heard it? [1:00:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So I I I didn't mean silver top top, but it could have top topped. We did... I did make a few calls. Alright? So this is gonna be funny to watch them and see how... What the messaging is. Like, are they actually gonna reload that now? Are they gonna do it from the fees and start, like, reloading the Saffu fund? Right? But now that he's... Now that sentiment is low and FUD is here, is he just gonna pull the break on that one? Like, what what does CZ have up his sleeve? Remember, we were we were all... Everybody was going, hey. Bottoms in. And then he was like, you know what? I don't know about that FTT. I don't know [1:01:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: about This is So are you telling me are you telling me that my funds on Binance are not SafeO? [1:01:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, did you see did you see yesterday? The... That Binance literally... They were like, we're having some issues with withdrawals. I was like, oh my god. I saw a post from the Binance account yesterday, and I was like, this isn't happening right now. There's no way. This can't be real. And then, like, an hour or two out there, they're like, okay. We fixed the issue. I was like, oh, thank god. I was like, oh my god. Because I was I was like... Because I... This is after I had just bought Bitcoin. And I was like, if this turns out to be, like, some 2021 shit where it's like, oh, we're having some small, Like, what possible technical issues can you have with withdrawals? Like, how or why? It's either the chains are fully functioning. What's the problem? I don't understand. All of a sudden, your withdrawal mechanism in the background just decided, I'm a take a day off today, or I'm a take a couple hours off. I'm out to lunch. [1:02:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you imagine if someone accidentally pat fingers something on that end and and Bitcoin nukes to zero? That's a big whoopsie. Right? [1:02:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Welcome back. We will go from 10:10 to whatever today is two three. Oh my god. Imagine if it would have been twenty six. Two six? That would have been poetic justice for all of us. But Oh god. Yeah. I know I know, Mona. It was too soon. I saw DocNooNoo came... Be saying to hold on. DocNooNoo came up, and she's probably gonna say, I told you capitulation. Bitcoin's a 29 k. DocNooNoo, what's up? [1:03:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's right, girl. Okay. [1:03:08] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I don't I don't believe I had my hand up, actually. [1:03:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: She did not. [1:03:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: When you came on stage, if I let you on stage and we haven't [1:03:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, there's a bunch of people [1:03:15] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: on stage. Why can't I come and sit with you guys? [1:03:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, you you were on engagement farm? [1:03:20] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Okay. But, yeah, just remember who told you Bitcoin's 29,000 when it was, like, 100 and something. The same. [1:03:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Only reason DocNooNoo gets to engagement farm is because we're kinda the same yuki. Right? She's Glock DocNooNoo. Look at that. And I'm a thug on the New York City subways in my yuki. I guess I gotta name this yuki, but it's not gonna be your... Never mind. Anyways... And, Naeem, your your face Pepe TED talking is really throwing me off, bro. All I see is highlights with, like, a [1:03:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: scrunched stuff. Staring at it. [1:03:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. With, a scrunched up, like, like, just, like, mush. You know what I'm saying? You remember [1:03:57] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I told him I told him it was a monstrosity, and he, like, started crying on another space. [1:04:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: God. Dude, hear What [1:04:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: the highlights do look [1:04:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Dave Dave, not bad, though. [1:04:08] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Monstrosity. That's why it was called. [1:04:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Property, buddy. [1:04:11] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. Like, it's doing its job. Everyone's staring at me right now. So [1:04:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. I guess he's right. I guess he's right. Shit. He's trying to go ahead, and then I want us to move on to some more stories. We got a a few other, like, just quick highlights. But... Yeah. [1:04:28] Theo @Theodrooz: Yeah. I'll I'll be I'll be quick. I had, another question for Landy and NetNET. So yesterday, we were saying if Bitcoin do with its 56, 59 k, what was gonna happen with Sailor and what what will be happening with the market? It's gonna be like a big... What you say, like a spiral to going downwards? [1:04:51] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Capitulation to 29 k is what will happen. [1:04:54] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: That's spiral. [1:04:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you [1:04:57] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Yeah. Just to just to just to tell him something. The lowest NAV on MSTR was 0.7, and that was back in '0... In 2022. So, I mean, I expect we revisit the... That NAV value and even potentially [1:05:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: For people that don't understand what the NAV value, go see just to understand. Like, his liquidation prices are a lot lot... Like, MS... Like, when you're looking at Sailor and his Bitcoin position's a lot lower, I think there's a lot of other people, like, Landy was saying earlier, with these digital asset treasuries that are like, man, what is going to happen with these folks? I think is [1:05:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Because Yeah. With m s... With MSTR, the price can go, I believe, down a lot before they they even start considering being liquidated. [1:05:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: They literally don't have a liquidation. This is [1:05:46] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Exactly. Exactly. Like, they don't have... They they they don't have a liquid... They don't have a liquidation. But the thing is, like, if Bitcoin starts going down and MSTR stock starts going down, they will need to sell their coin. Right? They will need to sell their coin either to pay people or to rebuy their shares. [1:06:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Here's the thing. Hold on. Hold on. Because that's actually a misconception. Because they started building out... They knew that price was likely gonna head to down... Head to the downside. That's why they started building out their cash reserves to whatever the $2,300,000,000 in cash that they have. What this is is it's not about how far the stock goes down. It's about how much time have they bought themselves to actually get back to one and above MNAV because they don't have to sell any of those coins. What the speculation is is that you're gonna... This this is the whole speculation, and this is this is Bitcoiners doing this, by the way, is, well, Jamie Dimon and all these people are taking so much short on float. They wanna just shove that that stock down, and then they're gonna... All these funds get in. They buy the stock. They're gonna convert and sell it so they could buy back lower and then get board positions and force liquidate. That is the dumbest strategy to try and get him out of that position that you could ever even employ. And it encounters... There's so much risk to that strategy as well. Here's the thing. The the actual runway that they have is well past when even the bearish... The most bearish bear would expect them to remain under one MNAV. Now the reason that they floated in their documentation that they under one MNAV would consider selling Bitcoin or productizing it is because they have to say that for investment purposes. And then what did they say immediately after? We have the cash to cover. And they can keep getting above one MNAV, and every time they do, they're gonna keep issuing to have cash to cover to give themselves runway. They could literally... Even in a bear market because MNAV is not your basis. Right? It is your... Their their holdings that everybody's comparing it to is their entry price. That doesn't matter. There is no liquidation on their entry price. It is all about the fundamentals of the stock and the fundamentals of paying back the debtors or the debt that they owe because they have issued equity now to to give themselves runway. They still have conversions, but then they still owe debt. Right? They can... They only have a portion of that as convertible debt. Now the new debt, there's there's nothing anybody could do. They just have to fulfill their obligations on that debt, and they have so much runway. There's... This is not anything like these other DATs. A lot of these other DATs do not have a cushion. They have nothing. They're under one MNET. Look at BMNR. By the way, you wanna talk... Everybody talks about Sailor all the time. [1:09:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. At BMNR. That one's ugly. He's an ugly... Isn't he underwater in his position already? [1:09:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's he's so far underwater, and his debt obligations are insane, and he's got no runway, no capital anymore. So he's gotta keep going on TV with increasingly messier hair to look like an unhinged maniac trying to get people to actually give him money, and that's gonna run out. He's... That is going to... What a big fail because we all know where he pivoted from and what he pivoted to, and he misread everything in order to just collect his paycheck at the end of the day because he's getting paid very handsomely whether they succeed or not. And this is this is a very different scenario when talking about strategy. I've had many lengthy conversations with people in industry that believe that strategy is a target. And the very first thing I say to them is what is the percentage of short on float? Oh, as of today, right now, it is 9%. [1:10:03] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: It's like 10%. Yeah. Yeah. But let me ask you a question, Landy. If the stock goes a lot down, like, let's say, 60 or something like that, whatever, do you do you see a risk where big hedge funds could buy out MFTR and take Sailor out? I mean, what do you think [1:10:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: about that? Been the speculation, but why would you take him out so that you could liquidate the asset on the lows? That's the dumbest way to do things in any kind of business. You don't wanna take him out to liquidate the asset on the lows. I mean, what is your realistic plan after that? Because most of these guys, if you're going after a strategy in that way and you wanna come in and you wanna buy to get him off the board, it's because you wanna change the fundamentals of his business and maybe you wanna utilize that Bitcoin, but selling it on the lows or on the way down is not what they would end up doing. Right? Even the biggest players on the planet, what do they do? They they accumulate in these periods of time. Right? So if they've got enough money to buy their way into the board and get him out, that's capital expenditure. And everybody's like, well, then they're gonna sell all the Bitcoin. What? Just to break even? Because that would cause the stock to go down more. Right? Every bounce from there is a sell. You don't wanna do that. That's that's cutting your nose off to spite your face. And the the predication of this was when we were at the all time highs and they had about a 22 to 23% short on float. Right? It's like, oh my god. They're trying to kill Sailor and push him out of the business, and they're gonna get him under under his under his entry price, he'll be forced liquidated. Like, there is no forced liquidation. And they substantially delevered on the way down. Those shorts came out. So this is where I just... I think that they've done a good job. That team over there, by the way, is very smart. A lot of people think, like, sailors stupid and the management team is stupid. No. They're not. They're dealing with some of the smartest people on the planet, and they got some of the smartest guys on their board. And they actually talk to some pretty smart people as advisers. [1:12:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Landy, so there was a story regarding JPMorgan opening a big short position on MSTR. I believe we shared it in one of the groups that we're in. What's your take on that? Do you think it's more fun than anything else? [1:12:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, then if it's... If they opened up a big short position, then what are they? The 9% today of short on float? Like, I mean, that's... It it would be different if there was some sort of a massive position. This is... This screams of normal trading activity, unless so we're gonna try and push you out of [1:12:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: the market [1:12:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: because what's the goal? You're just gonna make money on the way down to buy back and try and take over the company? Sure. You could try. To do what? Maybe roll it up? Not necessarily liquidate assets, but roll it up into your own? Maybe. Right? I mean... But everybody's speculating on what the goal is. Like, these players are gonna get in. They're gonna kick them out of the board, and they're gonna sell all the Bitcoin. And it's like, okay. Why would you do that in a world where everybody's launching DATs and everybody's got an ETF that they're trying to launch? Even some of the ones that said that they didn't wanna touch crypto with a 10 foot pole. So it just doesn't make a lot of sense from a strategic standpoint. And, also, even if they did have a big short, what is a big short? What's the dollar number? How many shares are being shorted right now? How can you track this back? Show me the proof. Where is it in the documents? Because if it's part of that 9%, it's not a very big short. [1:13:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Also, in the comments, Milo wrote he doesn't need to sell. They're about selling. He doesn't need to sell. Then Ryan also put... Seller can also defer dividends on perhaps for three years also. So super interesting. Alright. Good stuff. Yeah. My my [1:14:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: estimate my estimate's right here. I have it right in front of me. I just pulled it up. He he can give himself he can give himself until 2030 to 2031 as a window, although he did just increase the amount percent... Percentage of dividends. So probably a little bit shorter time period around 2029 if they really want to stretch it. [1:14:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah. [1:14:29] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Quick question, Landy. I always have a doubt. Like, why does he randomly DCA? Why does he... Why don't he wait to better zones to get in aggressively? Is it is it because when the when the stock is super up, he gets the debt and has to buy immediately? [1:14:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, that's the that's the trade he's been doing this whole time, bro. That's literally, like, the foundation to everything he's been doing. Go see. [1:14:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's all about when money gets released for him to use. [1:14:57] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: So I just don't believe in random DCA, personally. That's that's why I asked you a question. [1:15:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't think it's necessarily random. I think it's more of a race against time. One of the things you have to understand about what Sailor is trying to do is he's trying to build up the the largest position that he possibly can to rival, you know, potential accumulation of governments. And we can argue till till the end of time about the reasons why, but the main thing is when when increasing that position size, when you get when you get that money through, in this case, you know, issuing shares, you you have a window in which you can essential... Essentially utilize that because you get different pots of... Essentially, essentially, for accounting, you're gonna get different pots of where you can allocate these funds. So it's not like those specific funds are not being allocated to, like, the cash reserves, so they must be spent. Right? And this is for corporate tax purposes. It's for filing purposes. It might seem random, but, you know, he's been buying on the way down. He's also been a bit of a top picker. Why? Because when you're moving OTC in this world, everyone knows. When you're doing those big buy, everybody kinda knows. People talk to each other, so everybody kinda knows. And when you got a big player coming in, it's gonna act as nice exit liquidity for you. Might as well use them. [1:16:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Thank you. Goes to good good good shit. And I've been loving Kramer also. [1:16:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Kramer? [1:16:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: You... I just heard crickets. [1:16:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I just heard... [1:16:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can he say he's long silver, please? [1:16:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yep. What... He he called, like, a... He he was like, yeah. Bitcoin's looking good here. And then he was like, it's looking bad here, and it went back up. And then he was like, oh, it's gotta pump to, like, 82.5, and then it doesn't even make it there. So, like, what [1:16:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: is doesn't know any... Bro, I don't even understand how he's even relevant other other than inverse anything he says. [1:17:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just want that. Book. [1:17:07] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: He was begging a sailor to defend the 74 k level as well Okay. Recently. [1:17:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've got his book from, like, the early two thousands. Right? And in his book, he actually talks like a sane human being. Like, he actually has salient advice about investing in markets, which is wild. Like, I bought it just because even at the time, he was known for inverse, and this is well before the Lehman Brothers collapse and, like, all that stuff. So we're talking pre 2008. But even then, he was known as kinda like an exit liquidity guy on TV. And the wildest part to me is his book is nothing like what you would expect. Like, it it is, like, actually salient advice about investing and picking your investments and setting up a plan and all of this. And then he gets on TV, and he's like, buy buy buy. Sell sell sell. Lowe's coming in here. It's right here. They can never fail. And, like, it's like, this is the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. It's like being a Bitcoin puppet on stage and talking about only Bitcoin, but secretly, you're a CIA agent that's here to monitor everybody and see if they're paying their taxes and reporting you to the IRS. [1:18:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. Like you. Like you, Landon. [1:18:25] Bread @_ToastMalone: See, that's what I was saying, man. I loved... I always pay my taxes. I love the IRS. Good good fact. [1:18:29] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I actually did file some my card.... Yesterday. So I'm I'm ahead of schedule because I'm an organized individual. So there you go, Landon. Take notes, baby. [1:18:36] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I'm Canadian. [1:18:38] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, no. I'm [1:18:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: sorry. Yeah. We could get you too. You've been trading on American exchanges. Who's who's Canadian? Who said that? [1:18:47] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Where where from where from...... Tomorrow. [1:18:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: What part of Canada are you from? Think he's in Canada too. That's why. Oh, wait. Are you in Canada? [1:19:00] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm in Canada. He said he's in Miami, bro. [1:19:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm so sorry. [1:19:05] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: No. I'm in Miami, but I went to Toronto. [1:19:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm on the other side. [1:19:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: And I and I ate... [1:19:10] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Okay. Vancouver. Yeah. Because I ate a really good restaurant in Toronto. [1:19:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I ate a good [1:19:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: I love it. [1:19:18] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: I'm a foodie. I'm a foodie. I like to travel, eat good food, you know, like, I love it. [1:19:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave is over here getting hungry. His dinner's being made. [1:19:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's going on [1:19:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: over here? Meatloaf. [1:19:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Michelin star... Are we gonna be start sharing Michelin star reviews at the end of the day here too? Coincong, you wanna come up and chime in on some food stuff? I mean, while we're at it, what the hell? Why not? You know? [1:19:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just wanted to chime in. Okay? I know since we have land... Landy that is not not with the IRS, taxes are amazing, guys. If you haven't... If you don't know what taxes are, man, you are... You haven't lived until [1:19:52] xFactor @xFactorPOL: you paid a shit ton of taxes. [1:19:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly. [1:19:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love taxes. [1:20:01] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: I'm a US citizen, and I have to pay my taxes. [1:20:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm throwing them into the harbor this year, bro. With everything going on in the country, we're tossing them into the harbor. [1:20:09] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Dude, as a as a as a fellow Hispanic, don't say that again because, like, with with the accent and the way that you positioned it, we're gonna have ice and clear ASAP. [1:20:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I couldn't say that. I could not say that. Thank you. Thank you. I could not say that. Ice and the IRS. Oh my god. [1:20:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Landy's making a call as we speak. I love it. [1:20:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Landy, put down the phone, Landy. He didn't mean it. He was kidding. Put down the phone. [1:20:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, dude. Oh, god. Guys, we we have got landy overdose today. This is... This has been crazy. [1:20:42] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yes, man. Holy ghost. It's been a while. Have you been to Latelier here in Miami? You're a foodie. No? House. Or, like, Kote, the Korean steakhouse? Since we're since we're a Michelin review website now? [1:20:54] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Yeah. Cote. I actually I actually... The first time I tried Cote, it was in New York, and then they opened it in Miami. Actually, Miami, they're they're gonna open... What's the name of this restaurant in New York? The best burger is supposedly for Charles. They're gonna open one in Miami now. [1:21:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, everything starts in New York. [1:21:14] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That sounds awesome. Miami just No, bro. We have [1:21:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: we have a really good [1:21:17] xFactor @xFactorPOL: we have a really good French one. The the atelier, the... What is it? Or something like that. And, yeah, [1:21:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: that thing is [1:21:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: just amazing. Extremely expensive, but really good at the... In the design district. Highly recommended. Mhmm. [1:21:31] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: No. I have... I I haven't I haven't tried that one, but the first time the first time I tried a real omakase, I [1:21:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: totally forgot really awesome, like, [1:21:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: hidden omakase places that you go in and it's like a private 12 people, like, sit at dinner. It's freaking awesome. If you like omakase, shoot me a DM. I'll shoot you some spots. Yeah. [1:21:52] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: What... Who who... Who's talking to me [1:21:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: right now? [1:21:54] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Sorry. It doesn't show. Exactly. [1:21:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: The guy with the big nose PFP. But you guys wanna go on a... [1:21:58] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: You guys wanna no. Go Because I [1:22:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dude, we could... I... Listen. We No. That's terrible, bro. You're included, bro. [1:22:03] Theo @Theodrooz: You're included. Come on my brother. [1:22:05] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm interested. [1:22:06] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: No. Because I see I see I see x factor as a listener. That's why I didn't know. [1:22:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. And you guys wanna solidify your date? Do wanna pick a date... A time and when... Like, who... How are you gonna pick him up? Dress code or anything? Like, before we Yeah. No. That's like, you know, just one [1:22:20] xFactor @xFactorPOL: day, man. [1:22:21] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: That... That's basically [1:22:22] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And, also, also, that just means that he wants to listen in so he could fly down and partake. So... No, bro. Just... We'll coordinate in the DMs. [1:22:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. That could've happened, like, seven minutes ago, but here we are. Alright. What else is cooking out here? [1:22:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Before we [1:22:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: get to Zyber. Yeah. No. Zyber content wars, we're gonna talk about. [1:22:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Literally says after the food stuff, what else is cooking out here? [1:22:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're a fucking guy. Do you do you have bad joke ears? Like, is that what you... Like, you literally... Like, he's like, he [1:22:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: has a loud joke ears. [1:22:56] xFactor @xFactorPOL: On the other side of the room. He's like, hold [1:22:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: on. Yeah. Exactly. He's like, oh, after he talks about food, he says, what's cooking, guys? [1:23:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Anyways, we didn't talk about this. This is not exactly crypto related, but, no. I I don't see any... This is why, like, sometimes my timeline's a little screwed up. How is nobody talking about the SpaceX x AI merger? I don't understand. This is, like, one of the biggest mergers that we've literally ever seen in our lifetimes of two of the most monstrous companies ever with... By the way, for those that don't know, x AI owns Twitter, x here, that we are literally living on day in and day out. And then Yeah. But I Nobody's nobody's talking [1:23:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: I feel like it was expected, [1:23:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: aren't they? [1:23:44] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Owned by Elon Musk, bro. [1:23:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Exactly. [1:23:47] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Like, oh, [1:23:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: This was expected. [1:23:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So, I mean, so Elon Elon's circle jerked his own self to sell his company to him through... I I mean, come on, bro. Like, oh, cool. [1:23:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, he's got genius advisers if that's the case. Exactly, bro. He literally bought [1:23:59] xFactor @xFactorPOL: What he has is a Jewish accountant. Exactly. Then he's like, hey. Here's what we do. We need 16 shell companies, and then you're gonna diversify this shit into 16 different subdivisions, and then we're gonna buy them slowly. [1:24:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are are you are you worth 500,000,000,000? Exactly. Yes. Bro. Exactly. [1:24:15] Bread @_ToastMalone: Hell, yeah. That's the spirit. [1:24:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just like my day bucks are gonna be worth something. [1:24:19] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. Your day bucks are true for you. [1:24:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, you said [1:24:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: are so close. [1:24:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: I've had [1:24:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: them in my I've had them in my metal mask. Can't even open my battle. [1:24:27] xFactor @xFactorPOL: And the thing [1:24:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: now that I have a negative balance. [1:24:29] xFactor @xFactorPOL: The thing is that that Dave's that Dave's [1:24:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you for your donation. [1:24:32] xFactor @xFactorPOL: That Dave's federal policy was more in line with the previous guy that's leaving, not this new guy. So, like, his answer to, hey. What do I need? I need more money. Just print more day books. Inflation was too high. It's just... You're never gonna recover from that, bro. I'm sorry. [1:24:44] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, even even the shady bodega doesn't take day books anymore. It's awful. [1:24:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Pivot to, like, David books. Make it a little bit more formal, print less... You know what [1:24:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: they do? You wanna know what they do take Dave Bucks? At the new free Polymarket grocery store here in New York City. You show... [1:24:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: Wait. Wait. The Polymarket one or the Calicy one? [1:25:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Because, you know, like like normal. [1:25:03] xFactor @xFactorPOL: This is this is true, though. 27,000,847 day bucks equals a $5 free free play. [1:25:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Oh. Well, I mean, listen. [1:25:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can go into the polymarket free grocery grocery store and just take what you want. You... But show them the Dave Bucks so we get a little bit of promo at least. You know what I'm saying? Like... And just like, hey. I'm here to pay for this. [1:25:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hold on. So that... And that that will be considered stealing. [1:25:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yep. Okay. Cool. Cool. No. We're on the same page. [1:25:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. Exactly. [1:25:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a free grocery store. Don't understand what you mean that is [1:25:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: to be... [1:25:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. I don't know why is public doing this. [1:25:35] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. It's like the free, like, snacks and drink places at the airports that have nobody working at them. [1:25:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You have to pay for those [1:25:41] Theo @Theodrooz: that just have [1:25:41] xFactor @xFactorPOL: to Oh, I see what you're doing there. Okay. I see I see what Brett's doing there. Was like, well, you guys have that, man? Colorado's so friendly. [1:25:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Huge to do. [1:25:48] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Like, Miami would have huge cops tackling us to the floor. Like, no. That's not free, my guy. That's a $20 Coca Cola. What are you doing? Are you retarded? I mean, [1:25:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: it's do that in the Bronx. The bodega manager, who's also the cat, will chase you down. Yeah. Yeah. [1:26:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: He he... Yeah. Like, bodega man... Bodega owners don't mess around. Like, do... Like, are you kidding me? Are you, like, are you nuts? [1:26:09] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Yeah. So [1:26:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: so trying to steal from the seven Eleven. You know? New York, one [1:26:12] xFactor @xFactorPOL: of the best places, though, at least in my in my memories that I really enjoyed was the the the the halal meat that they... That you guys sell on the street trucks. They're gonna Oh, [1:26:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: street meat. Street food. [1:26:22] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You're one of those. [1:26:22] Theo @Theodrooz: That shit is [1:26:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: delicious, bro. [1:26:24] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: I've failed the... [1:26:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: It is very, very delicious. My mom... When my mom and my... And my stepdad... [1:26:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brian, did they go away? [1:26:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: When my mom and my stepdad... When my mom and my stepdad first came to New York, that's the one place I I took them to because we were walking around, we were shopping, and we we saw the the Halal truck. By the way, just so you know, in Washington Heights, it's not Halal. Right? It's Halal. [1:26:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? Halal. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. [1:26:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: My mom my mom says she's like, halal. I'm like, mom, what? She's like,. She's like, [1:27:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: is it? [1:27:00] xFactor @xFactorPOL: So halal halal is is lamb. Right? Technically, lamb. Right? [1:27:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Depends. It's just, like, non [1:27:08] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, like, yeah, gyro or whatever. So, anyway, so the the lamb stuff, like Gyros. [1:27:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, you talking about gyros? Oh my god. Did you say gyro? What's a gyro? Gyros gyro? It's a gyro. God. [1:27:18] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: Gyros. Not even not even Oh, [1:27:21] xFactor @xFactorPOL: no. Tony Los Gyroschi over there. I love it. I love it. [1:27:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait. I think bread had the perfect pronunciation. How do you say it, bread? Yeah. [1:27:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's a herald. [1:27:30] xFactor @xFactorPOL: No. That's Jewish. [1:27:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Herald. There we go. No. That's that's Jewish. It's not a language. It's a fuck No. [1:27:35] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's Greek. [1:27:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. I think it's Greek. [1:27:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think we're stressing, Dave. I can see. Can be Jewish. [1:27:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my goodness. He says it's [1:27:45] xFactor @xFactorPOL: it's it's it's the common tongue of certain people, Dave. [1:27:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dosty, I hope you're happy. Do see what you did here? I hope you're happy with what you did here. I hope you're happy with what you've accomplished, bro. [1:27:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dosty, you need to come back on this show. This is amazing. Look. We are still talking about food, by the way. And you tried to bring up x AI in SpaceX, but [1:28:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: It somehow came back to food and allowed drugs. [1:28:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: You're the one that brought [1:28:08] Bread @_ToastMalone: up the the grocery stores. [1:28:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Hit it, Dave. Like, otherwise, don't be talking about [1:28:12] GhostyAI @CryptoGhosty333: the birthday [1:28:13] xFactor @xFactorPOL: that happened from the guy that owns both companies? [1:28:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: What does that do? June. [1:28:17] Bread @_ToastMalone: IPO in June. [1:28:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shut up. This is crazy. Ghost team, go ahead, man. And then [1:28:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Real quick on this subject for x AI and SpaceX. [1:28:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sure [1:28:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: you saw that they have a lot of job openings now at x AI, and it's all finance related dash whatever the role will be. There is a crypto currency or crypto role available, Brad. And this is something that... If you are looking at the chart for Dogecoin, it's very, very funny that right after they post that they are gonna have job openings, Elon pumps the chart a little bit, and then it immediately dumps out all the holy hell. And then and then, you know, [1:29:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: you can go and you can get [1:29:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: 200 k job now. So they're literally in the job creation business is what I'm trying to say is they're creating jobs. [1:29:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can somebody please get this job that's part of the ATC fam so that we can have a direct line to Nikita so that we can [1:29:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: guy in, bro. [1:29:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. Like, at least give us a little bit of a heads up for what's to come in the future. You know what I'm saying? Like, give back. You know, we give so much here. Help us. Help you. Okay? Anyways, we talk about diver content wars and how we're gonna kick it now that Monica's not here? Natalie, we need to talk first and foremost. Okay? This is an intervention right now. I need to know from you because I didn't hear many participation trophies being handed out this morning, and I need to know that you are gonna be a... An extremely impartial judge. I know you're on forty minutes of sleep, but I... Don't... And you better not stay on mute right now. I I... Natalie? [1:29:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: I am here. I am listening, David. [1:29:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Natalie, I need to know that you are going to be an extremely impartial judge or a favorable judge to team number three. [1:30:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: So either with you or with you? [1:30:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. With me or with me. Exactly. I need to know. [1:30:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: And you know what? I... [1:30:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you just met me? Did did you just met me? [1:30:23] xFactor @xFactorPOL: Oh, no. She's having connection issues. [1:30:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. Exactly. You, bro. That's Thank you, x factor. I I was walking down the hotdog aisle too. [1:30:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The Costco hotdog aisle with no pants on. [1:30:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: All jokes aside, guys. [1:30:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: I am [1:30:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: I am fortunate to be to be one of the judges. I... It will definite... I will definitely be an impartial judge because it... It's important for for Zyber. Right? What what we're trying to do, what the team is trying to do, they're trying to get the word across, but also do it in a way where everyone just puts their best foot forward and create the best content across the board. So that's very important. [1:31:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank thank you. And, guys, that's amazing. [1:31:04] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I appreciate that. And this is exactly the answer we need. Because we have backups just in case we would've messed that one up. Man. I'm sorry. [1:31:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. That's not good. [1:31:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I was just telling them that you have your silver bet. [1:31:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. This is what hedging looks like. [1:31:36] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I'm I'm learning from [1:31:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: that.... It. [1:31:39] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I guess it's a perfect pivot too to announce our third party adviser in the panels. One of three, is in fact gonna be, the puppet, Landon. So, we did, reach our financial agreement. Oh my god. We, we did we did secure the puppet on a on a long term yearly contract here. So This is crazy. [1:32:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is crazy. Like, Dave, can... Yeah, Lindsay. [1:32:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, just understand. Look look look at this smile. You see these sunglasses? Behind these sunglasses, I'm silently judging you. [1:32:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know you are. You've you've been doing that since you've been riding the coattails of... Like, since you jumped on this bandwagon two and a half years ago. Okay? Always. I know. Now it's retro. This is this is payback, motherfucker. This this is payback time. You hear? The piper's coming to the... Listen. It's time to pay the piper, bro. Okay? I need you to advise on my behalf now. [1:32:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. Dave, so so let me just get this straight. You have Landy as an adviser, and you have me as a judge. This is looking great. [1:32:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: For me? Apparently not. Apparently, it's not looking good at all for me. Guys, don't forget there's also three other people on my team. [1:32:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: So Dave, look at your look at your look at your hat and ask yourself. [1:33:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: What what am I asking myself? [1:33:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're gonna ask yourself [1:33:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: why. Why? [1:33:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somebody asked me today, what does the y stand for? I'm like, for fuck's sake. Really? [1:33:19] Bread @_ToastMalone: Utes. Right? Stands for Utes? [1:33:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ugh. Where's Monica when I need... Oh, look. 25,000 to my account. Thank you, Tunnel. Great. Love this. Love getting deposited into my account. And by the way, the Tunnel, ProPass is, Mint is going live January ninth point $2.05 ETH. If you want auto claim on some of the tunnel deals, everyone's like, that's mass extraction. Shut up, tire. It's not mass extraction, bro. Nobody out here using the platform talking all this shit out here. This is crazy work. I don't wanna hear nothing. Take my money, please. And plus, eat this down to, like, $2,000. What are we talking about here? It's peanuts. Cold it. All things all things cold it. Can we make a meme for all things cold it? Can somebody just make that meme already? This is nuts. [1:34:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: I got an amazing video that I did, but I I think I sent it to Lenny, probably. It's [1:34:09] xFactor @xFactorPOL: about us [1:34:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: being the top signal. [1:34:10] xFactor @xFactorPOL: It's a good NFT color. Yeah. Called it. [1:34:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I would I I would I like to appreciate us so being on the on the... On through the space, man, because most people have left, man. I think, you know, we probably... The only people that still host the space is still, and people are gone... [1:34:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: People have gone. They're late gone, but because all the [1:34:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: people still listening, and we... We're gonna [1:34:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: make it, man. Just a quick motivation because [1:34:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: I just know people are just tired of of not making a million dollars by now, but it's okay. You you get there. You get there. So let's go, Kool. Kool is literally, like, you know, like, he's, like, the the largest shareholder in ATC, but, like, lately, he's been looking around. He's probably, like, outhouse shopping or something. You know what I'm saying? So, like, he chimes in at, like, the best times where he's just like, hey. We're No. Gonna make it. No. I'm... I go to the gym... So so I... I've been going to the gym, man, so I can't I can't be talking in the gym. So I'm listening. Yeah. That's the reason, man. The the the... You know, I'm in the gym. I would... Like, two days, I I can't speak too much. So I just got home so I could talk now. But, yeah, I'm in the gym. I need to... I'm getting ready for the bear market. I've been stacking, stables for a long time. And so so when Lanny says 20, 30 k, I'm ready. I'll I'll be I'll be I'll be waiting waiting for this for, like, a year and a half. So I have zero fear this time because I'm ready, man. I'm ready. So it's what it is, man. I just think people need to get some some positive view because it is it is dead out there, man. I I just feel bad for people that didn't really make it this last cycle. I'm like, we need to give them more more more views of of of positive view. It's coming in the future. You gotta wait. Maybe six to eight months, maybe, or more. [1:35:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Cool. This is [1:35:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Cool. [1:35:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is the time to be happy. Be happy. Don't cry. Be happy. You're still here. You've made it. You've made it through an entire cycle. [1:36:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Drive Alamo? [1:36:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just came to my head. Oh my god. If you if you got me, it's not this year. But in the Korean back in the day, we had this little fish. [1:36:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't worry. And that... That's the twenty to thirty day caller. I'm more in the forties, low fifties. But that being [1:36:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: said Can [1:36:20] xFactor @xFactorPOL: I blend and get a $10,000 cushion from Bitcoin get in over here? [1:36:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: It doesn't matter because this is your time to shine. This is where you can become the sunlight and fix the bottom yourself. [1:36:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: We have been having that bottom. [1:36:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Those targets will come into play if we can't break a landing. Did you really take us to the bottom? [1:36:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Shit. It... Sometimes bottoms, like, one cheek is a little bit lower than the other, and that's what Nat's trying to say. So maybe maybe my bottom cheek is a little bit higher than her bottom cheek call, but you just gotta grab both. Now you got... You could just... Two hands, two cheeks, grab them, let it rip. Alright? [1:37:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ladies, I'm looking to grab some bottoms, so please please hop into my DMs. I'm looking to grab all bottoms. [1:37:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm telling you. [1:37:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: If I'm gonna miss... Listen. It's cuffing. It's cuffing. She's... This can't possibly... [1:37:12] xFactor @xFactorPOL: This can't possibly work for you, Dave. Does it? Like, just calling calling grabbing bottom of your CT? [1:37:19] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro. Shit. He is fishing with dynamite, bro. [1:37:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, exactly. Spray and pray. This shit works. You'd be... I expect it. I'm telling you. [1:37:25] xFactor @xFactorPOL: You're gonna gonna grab you're gonna grab a a handful of dynamite one of these days, bro. [1:37:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, bro. Listen. No. [1:37:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave's ready to hit the mean streets of New York and freeze his bottom off. So if you would like to join him in having a nice cold frozen [1:37:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe it's the rough and tumble streets of New York. [1:37:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Rough and [1:37:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: tumble. I'm sorry. Not mean streets. [1:37:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dave is honestly fucking about other girls. Bottom, please come in. Right. [1:37:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. You're fucking rat. Did... [1:37:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, wait. That that was a different chat. Never mind. I was gonna ask something, but never mind. That was a different chat. [1:37:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: What chat? Dave. And what are y'all talking about about being a different chat? No. What [1:38:02] Voice J: the is going on? [1:38:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: About you. It was it was... I was gonna ask if somebody had asked about you or [1:38:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: How much day bucks do you want to stop this? Okay? Just name your price. [1:38:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: What I wanna know is is you said that you're on the subway. Right? And you're... You you referred to yourself in this in this specific way. Can you can you repeat that for me? [1:38:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: I said I was a thug on the subway. Look at me like... You know? [1:38:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Do thugs on the sub... Subway say I'm a thug on the subway? [1:38:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Of course. That's how we identify ourselves. [1:38:36] Bread @_ToastMalone: They're don't worry, be happy [1:38:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: when they're on the subway. Yeah. [1:38:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course. Somebody bumps into me. I'm like, yo. Watch out. I'm a thug on the subway. [1:38:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just can't get the roasting with my head, man. Because you're in the subway. You're in New York, and you're wearing red. I [1:38:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: swear. Naeem, what the... Naeem is the reason for this. This is what... This is I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. Roadster is I do. Netflix updates now. I get Netflix updates now because I, like, started watching Netflix. Bear market's here. Netflix account reactivated. This is it. You just gotta buy, hold, and just wait it out. Netflix and chill is the name of the game for the next six to eight months, ladies and gentlemen, and I have to go eat. So that's about it, but we are out. See y'all tomorrow. Hump day, all things crypto. Appreciate all y'all coming through. Cool. Nat, Landy, Brad, Zamara, x. Naeve, appreciate you. Hey. Ghostie, was great having you, bro. Let's go. Half an hour. Marcus Don't cancel Ghostie. Mike left
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