A Thursday show hosted by Dave with NatNat, Kool, Moni, Bread and Sunny D, plus Naeem (Voice E), Vibes (Voice K), Kantor (Voice H), Sage (Voice I) and Kkoma (Voice M); the main guest is Ben (Voice B) of Starchild by WOO X, calling in from Kuala Lumpur. NatNat previews Friday's jobs data and Moni says she is watching for AI's effect on jobs after Block's layoffs; Moni also updates on Zeet creator cards (8% royalties to card holders, private squad chats). Kool says he has retired from airdrop farming because locked tokens lose value in a bear market and prefers trading for control. Dave covers the SEC's $10M settlement with Justin Sun's Rainberry, dismissing remaining Tron/BitTorrent claims with prejudice; Sunny D adds TRX and USDT listing on Gemini. Dave then covers ICE (NYSE's parent and a Polymarket investor) investing in OKX at a $25B valuation as proof that 'the world is moving on chain', and Naeem notes ICE's LayerZero ties; Kantor says Hedera's LayerZero integration lets anyone bridge assets, and NatNat and Kantor discuss a road-user-charge patent filing citing Hedera. Bread describes running PicoClaw and a local MiniMax model on a Raspberry Pi 4B and pitches $100 AI boxes for small businesses; he and Dave float a partnership. Ben explains Starchild: hosted, sandboxed OpenClaw-style agents with an agent wallet, skills and crypto payment rails, top-ups in USDC at iamstarchild.com, examples including a grid bot and Hyperliquid/Orderly funding-rate arbitrage, smart model routing, persistent memory and signed wallet policies as guardrails; he describes skills as text files that teach an agent a task, and suggests beginners brainstorm prompts with ChatGPT or Gemini first. Bread explains his weather-market agent and why buying the 'no' sides of multi-bracket prediction markets can be an edge; Dave tries a bracket-arbitrage scanner live, and Dave and NatNat revisit a Form 4 insider-filings agent idea. Personal banter and third-party crime stories are not summarized.
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# 🎙️All Things Crypto: Starchild is your Savior! | 2026-03-05 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1NGaraogOrDJj | status: approved # Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed. [0:02:08] Voice N: Coins. We chase conviction. Every drug they coded, every market missing. From the top to the streets is pure ignition. All things crypto, the new trend listing, all things crypto. [0:02:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: What is happening? [0:02:27] Moni @monitalan: Is happening? [0:02:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: You can't hear the music? [0:02:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can hear [0:02:31] Moni @monitalan: two versions. Is it me? Yeah. It's like cross wires. Crypto. [0:02:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, yeah. I hear it fine. [0:02:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: You You guys gonna step on the intro like that. Was there a problem with the music? [0:03:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I I I think she was in the process of rugging. She she was hearing the music double. [0:03:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Monica, the princess. Referral is insane. Come in there to an empire chain. I can't believe... [0:03:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'll read that song, by the way. [0:03:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What's that? Yeah. I know. I know. I know. Oh my god. I can't believe you're the one that actually said that. Thank god. I just I just thought, Milo Milo, I owe you 250,000 s link. We were just in the s link space pumping our bags with some other influencers. God. I missed the meme coin, like, pump space days. You know what I'm saying? Like, guys, this is it. Monica, update your app. What is happening? I just show Monica spinning. [0:03:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Monica, do a laugh, honey. I will bring you up on the TV. Just says you're connecting and you're spinning. [0:03:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can you say it in Spanish? [0:03:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Monica, [0:03:55] Voice N: reconnect. [0:03:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just bring. You [0:04:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: know, like, she posted the thing yesterday. Was just like English with the Spanish. [0:04:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: That was [0:04:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. Yeah. Oh, good times. Good times. Good times. Yeah. Everybody's over in the Essling space pumping my bags right now. So there'll be a little... Everybody on the on the Essling side is gonna be a little bit late, so that's fine. No worries. As long as, like, chart continues to go up, we got a lot of things planned with Essling. New, incoming tater trader action fight campaign is gonna be launching. We got an exchange coming on Monday as well. So we got some... We got a few things planned. We got a few things planned, but it's good to see everybody here. Nifty, what's up? AMG, Prez, Adrian. Yo, what's good? Labbets, what's good? Mustafa, I see you. Shan, what's cooking? Good to see you guys, man. Chad, love it, man. Love it. Love it. Love it. And, obviously, all my speakers up here. Cool's here. Nat's here. Morny's here. I know the puppet said he's not gonna be, he he might not be be able to make the show today or whatever, but there is no shortage of news today. I woke up this morning. I saw the monster of god candles on on OKX. I'm like, what the hell happened here? To my surprise, massive news. ICE, the parent company of the stock exchange, for those that don't remember, they were the ones that made the massive investment in Polymarket, made a massive investment into OKX at a $25,000,000,000 valuation, which is wild. John DeGuito was arrested earlier. If you don't know that name, you probably haven't become an ATC long enough. The guy who stole all the crypto from daddy's position from the US government. So there's been a there has been a lot a lot of news, some IRS news cooking, and I'm sure some other drama that's been happening on the timeline. But let's say what's up to everybody. Natalie, what's up? [0:05:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: I am great. It has been a fantastic day today. But, guys, if I if I go quiet, I'm with my baby. We were outside with the family just, enjoying the beautiful weather. So if I go quiet, I am changing diapers, getting him ready and comfortable, stuff like that. [0:06:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: You good. You good. You good. You good. Cool. What's up, bro? You good? [0:06:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. Hope you guys are doing okay. Happy Wednesday, Thursday. Happy Thursday. Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. I'm just enjoying the vibe, and I think a [0:06:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: lot of news a lot [0:06:19] Kool @koolcryptovc: of news on the Iran, US slash Israel side and a lot of news on crypto. I mean, my timeline is... It's pretty nuts. But for me, I'm just I'm just basically waiting to see where we go from here because there's just... I'm seeing crazy things on the timeline. A a a polymarket just came out, like, like, twenty minutes ago saying we're more likely to go below 40 k before we get to 90 k. So I'm I'm just kinda re... Trying to rewire my brain and get positioned for stuff. So I'm just... Man, I'm just chilling, man. You know, it's gonna be a long one. So if you're here and expecting all season, just be ready for... To wait for at least a year, two years. So that's it. [0:07:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alt season. You said it, not me. You said it this time, not me. Yeah. Yeah. Alt season it is. We'll see how it goes. Monie, what's up? [0:07:17] Moni @monitalan: Hopefully, I'm not rugging. And I can only say, like, for twenty minutes. I'm so sorry. And I'm sorry that I bragged her space earlier. I could hear myself twice. I heard the music on twice. It was crazy. But, anyway, you know... Yeah. So Carlitos actually did a really interesting post call about kinda, like, the situation and what to do, and cash is king pretty much was, I think, his message. But, yeah, I think everybody's just monitoring. And tomorrow, we have the jobs report. Right? Or is it... Was it today? When is the jobs report coming out now? [0:07:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hola. Yeah. Natalia s s unbebe. Oh, sorry. [0:07:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Natalia s unbebe. Am I a baby? [0:08:00] Moni @monitalan: You're only 25. You're only 25. It's whenever we get it. Natalia [0:08:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: is with is with a baby. [0:08:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. No. So tomorrow, do have some data. You're absolutely right. We do have unemployment report, and we have retail sales, and we have wages. I think last time, when was it? I I forget what day it was that we covered all... Oh, I believe it was last year before I went out when I when I was pregnant. We covered, how some of these unemployment reports and these wages, they come out on the first week of every month. Usually, typically, a sixth or... Falls on a sixth or a seventh. Tomorrow is the sixth. We do have that report. Whenever these report... Whenever there is a surprise in the report, markets tend to react. If it's not surprising, if everything falls in line, then there will be no reaction. But it's always good to know what's go... What's going on on that front. So you're absolutely right. Reports start rolling in at 08:30 in the morning, and we do have consumer credit at 3PM. And in between, there are a few Fed speakers at 10:15 and at 01:30PM EST. [0:09:05] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. And I'm gonna be watching more than anything because there's so much talk around the impact of AI on jobs. So that's really what I'm looking for, right after block said that they are Square, whomever, and that was that they cut half their workforce because of AI. You know, what's AI washing? What's really happening? And I think that's... Tomorrow's gonna be an important signal for that. So, yeah, lots lots happening. [0:09:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yeah. I think the previous report showed a little bit of that, and that has been a hot narrative, Monty. They were actually talking about it on multiple... On on TNBC, but I also think Fox Business actually put out a report on this. And even prior to that, right, we were in a space a few months ago. It was an AI space, and we were talking about the possibilities of AI replacing, certain jobs. So I guess all of... None of this is new. We kinda saw it coming. It's just, like, to the extent of it. Right? [0:09:59] Moni @monitalan: Yep. So anyway... So it it will be an interesting Friday. [0:10:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Morning. What's what's... Who... Wait. What? Who's that? What? What happened? [0:10:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I said, yeah. It will. We have a [0:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: a lot of Oh. Oh. I was like, wait. I thought I heard a man's voice. I was like, what is that? I was like, I didn't [0:10:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: see No. You said it will. [0:10:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I was like, what the heck? Yeah. Monie, what's the latest with your Z cards? Is there still activity on OpenSea, or is that... Has that died? Had its day and then died? [0:10:29] Voice K: No. I mean, more than [0:10:32] Moni @monitalan: on OpenSea. Remember that they opened up the market so that you can buy cards within the platform using seats. A lot of people don't have seats, but people are buying them. And so you're still seeing some activity. I think I should check. They've... The packs were running out. Two of the... They had, like, three different right ways to to buy them, and I think two of those had all been bought. And so it'll be interesting to see. But now the other thing that's interesting is if you are a cardholder that created... That can create squads, you can actually have a private chat with them. So I think about 70 some people own my card, and so I... I'm starting to communicate with them within the seat platform, which is pretty cool. And that's set up for whatever the tournaments are gonna be. But I think you're still seeing some volume and activity. I think the other part that's interesting, if if you have a card, they're giving you... What percentage? Just 8% of the royalties are going to you. And so I got a little bit of money from people that bought my card, but I saw some people that got, like, one each based on how people were trading their cards. So you are seeing some movement there. And I think Hans did an interesting post about this is just the beginning. I think we should invite him to all things crypto. You can grill him, Dave. [0:12:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm down. I'm I'm always down. Of course. Would love to have him. [0:12:04] Moni @monitalan: I'll send him my note and see when he wants to do it. But, no, I think [0:12:07] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Okay. [0:12:08] Moni @monitalan: Some creators are very happy because they made good money just from their cards being traded. [0:12:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I... On that note, cool. Did you did you claim your iDOS airdrop today? Did you get some money? I know you've abandoned Infofile altogether. Yeah. [0:12:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know, I got, like, [0:12:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think almost $2 today. I think on two two AirDrops today. Even though I've I've retired from AirDrops, I've I've I've turned the curtains on on that AirDrops. I I [0:12:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: You get royalty payments, my boy. [0:12:39] Voice N: What the [0:12:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: hell? It's it's just the work that I did last year, man. So, no, it's just... It's it's... I made a tweet about how, you know, I think how, like, ADK locked And when it was time to unlock vested tokens, it's worth, like, 7 k. That's how bad airdrops are. Right? So a lot of people are, oh, boy. That's not money, boy. You gotta understand that. People put putting work, and you you get what you deserve. But the issue is projects we're trying to protect their tokens, so they force us to lock our tokens up. And once we lock it up, we can't claim it for another year. Right? And once... For example, I mean, if if, you know, we didn't have this huge downturn, we probably would have, you know, quick... Came our tokens, you know, at at at good prices. But if you go to a bear market, man, and this happens, just just screwed, man. And I think a lot of a lot of us are in that same boat. So, unfortunately... So now I'm I'm doing a hair drop, though. I'm done. I'm even... I mean, if I do start, it might be one or two maybe, but I believe trading is where it is, especially because I believe it's yeah, we have more control. I I won't control, man. I don't wanna... Like, look. There are, like, seven, eight projects, I mean, that promised to end up to its users, and they deleted their Twitter accounts. I mean, I mean, just... And that's it. And nothing you could do. There's no SEC to, you know, call. There's no cops to report to you. So I just believe trading gives you more control, and that's why I'm trying to I'm trying to really try to, you know, get better at this stuff and make money from it. And that's it. So... But, yeah, when I get a little little airdrop, it's cool, man. It's cool. I can't complain. [0:14:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. Listen. Two k is two K, bro. It is what it is. Let's go. I love it. Nice. Alright. First news up. It just crossed the wire a little bit ago. The US Securities and Exchange Commission has reached settlement with Justin Sun and the entities tied to Tron. Alright? So, Zac XBT, eat your heart out. Alright, buddy? It is what it is. It wasn't Justin Sun. Alright? Despite all of the claims of woman scorn and whatever, What's a little $10,000,000 civil penalty, you know, amongst friends out here? It is what it is. Right? Everything is fine now. Everything is fine. Thank god. It's the best damn paying job I got. Listen. Justin Sun, essentially, here's here's kind of the details. This is... If you guys remember, this was a case that was paused, obviously, once Trump came into, came into office. They was obviously reviewing everything, but they did settle the case. It says, Rainberry Inc, which is a company... The company behind BitTorrent, which is also a Tron entity, that that, that Justin had acquired from a while back. It's definitely linked to Sun. They pay a $10,000,000 civil penalty. This Rainberry company must agree to an injunction preventing future securities law violations. And in return, the SEC is going to dismiss all of the remaining open claims against Justin Sun, the Tron Foundation, and BitTorrent Foundation. So Justin Sun lives another day, ladies and gentlemen. But it says important legal detail. The dismissal is with prejudice, meaning the SEC cannot bring the same charges again. It's like double jeopardy. I actually didn't know that until today. Says the settlement still requires approval from a federal judge before becoming final, so hopefully that that kinda goes there. And where these kinda came from, this was if you guys remember back in 2023 when Justin Sun, where the age... Where good old good old Gary accused him and the the related companies, TRX and whatnot, for selling unregistered crypto securities that they were artificially inflating trading volume, aka what the ex girlfriend was completely alluding to the whole time. He did this. He did this. So $10,000,000 later, when you're a billionaire, what's the big deal? You just kinda pay, and you're just like, let's move forward. And now clean slate. Welcome to crypto, ladies and gentlemen. It's kinda how it happens. So, Justin, shout out to you, sir. Shout out to you. [0:16:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not not like he did not commit those those things. [0:16:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did he, though? Did he? [0:16:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, that is [0:16:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: not even being fine. [0:16:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: If they did not find anything [0:16:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: An alarming. If they would not have gone to, like, 10,000,000. [0:16:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. That's a settlement. You know? Sometimes when you're a billionaire, you gotta spend, like, what's... Towards, you know, like, $50,100 bucks for me to use. It's just like, alright. 10,000,000. I'd make this go away. Alright. Make this go away, please. You know, you're not saying, oh, I'm guilty. You're just saying his 10,000,000. Alright? Like [0:17:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So, basically, what it... What what that is saying, he's not innocent, but he's not totally guilty either. [0:17:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love the picture that, like, Cointelegraph actually chose. It's, like, Justin at, like, a desk. Right? Like, it looks so AI. Like, it's just him in a suit. Like, it looks like he's literally sitting in front of congress. It's like, bro, this dude has never sat in front of congress a day, and he's like, what are we talking about here? This is so funny. But, yeah, anyways, shout out to the Sun ecosystem. Where are my boys, Sunny, Dean, Trent? Damn. They're not here. We had a great space this morning. That's fine. But, yeah, shout out to the Tron ecosystem, man. Let's go. I saw vibes came up. Bread came up. Vibes... What's the... Oh, shit. Nat, just a heads up. Vibes might get a little crazy today. We roasted her on the Quack stream. She was like, do my profile. Do my profile. [0:17:59] Voice K: You didn't roast me. The only thing is, you know, I'm a writer, and you go, what's this? Where is your tagging? It's a story. I wrote it from my mind. I didn't have anybody that I was writing it for. I was just sharing some creativity. That's what writers do. They write. They create characters. But I know I thought I thought you were very kind. [0:18:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you very much. Like I said, I said, you know, vibes is PFP was one of those that when you go to the page, it's just like, look for a simp like me. I'm just... I'm I'm drawn in. Of course, I'm clicking. That's clickbait for the simps out here, and there's a lot of us. So Vibes knows what she's doing on the on the account front. So well done, Vibes. Well done. And you cannot find me today because I did not roast you. So no matter how many f bombs I drop, there is no finding possible today. [0:18:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Thank you. What [0:18:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: do mean, says who? Says me me, the host of the show. What do you mean? [0:18:51] Voice K: Yeah. But you're not the one that finds you, so [0:18:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: do both of them. Because you're gonna be finding yourself, you know, I Vibes, I will gladly find on your behalf. [0:19:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: But listen. Listen. Listen. Justin Sun just got away with 10,000,000, like, surely, we we can come to some sort of an agreement on a 7 [0:19:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Send me 10,000,000. Let me think about it. [0:19:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. They say 10,000,000. [0:19:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Nah. Yeah. [0:19:12] Voice K: I mean, 10,000,000, we're open to discussion. I think that's a good starting point. [0:19:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. So you can't Nah. I'm saying 10,000,000. No way. [0:19:22] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Let me [0:19:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: say what's up to Bright. Vibes, good to see you. Brett, what's good, my brother? [0:19:25] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo. GM. Gotta, gotta vent quick here for a second. Was just in a space and just listening to the amount of just KOL LARPs that are Claude Bot AI, Polymarket Bot experts after, you know, playing with themselves for six months, bro, is unreal. Like, unbelievable. Don't listen to the KOLs on the timeline if you're actually trying to do anything of any value whatsoever. That's just my PSA for today. [0:19:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what I'm saying? Go eat some crayons. [0:19:58] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah., bro. I I need a couple crayons. I'm gonna go find some here [0:20:02] Voice N: in Chile. [0:20:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. Chill out. Like,. You know what I mean? Like... Whoo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're good. You're good, man. You're good. Did you try and play with Star Child yet? You? Cool? Nat? Of course not. Nobody [0:20:17] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. No. No. But I did get, I did get Picobot running on my Raspberry Pi. And so now I'm just, in the process of setting up skill files and connecting Telegram and and, creating a dashboard I can access from anywhere, essentially, via my phone or other laptop or whatever. So, yeah. Yeah. Building building some real shit, dude. I'm do... I... I'm telling you, man. I think that there's a real power in loading up these little Raspberry Pis that are $100. Right? It takes an hour or so to, like, set it all up and then just dropping them off at businesses and being like, cool. $500 a month, and you can lay off your entire reception staff. You know? Or to restaurants for inventory management and, auto replenishing or for construction sites and new home builds or for... Like, there's so many cool things that, like like, we only know about this stuff because we're so close to it. But, like, the guy that's the general contractor running four or five teams of electricians and plumbers, they're not even going to try to even look up what any of this is. But if you provide them with a solution, they'll happily pay you for it. So I think there's something here. Facts. [0:21:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Raspberry Pi sounds like it tastes good. Sorry, Dave. But Well, no. Sounds like you're [0:21:31] Voice K: coming in for something else. I have to be honest. [0:21:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, guys. You're showing your boomer status. Okay? Everybody knows what a Raspberry Pi is. I mean, I just found out what it was, like, two years ago, but you should still know. Alright, boomers? That's what it is what it is. Bread, I feel like in this moment is when I also realized, I like how I learned so much when I come to these moments. Like, they're really simple things to know, but check this out. Like, we should we should collaborate. Right? Like, I... Let me build the the outreach force that is gonna get us the business that I could just come to you and say, hey. Build a Raspberry Pi for this small biz... Or, you know, build build an agent for this small business and, like, how do we actually implement that into what we need? You know what I'm saying? Like, for the business, I can galvanize a Salesforce. Right? I can train them. I could do a lot of things. We could do it right here on Twitter spaces. You know what I'm saying? We could do webinars. We could do whatever and just have them, like, do massive freaking... I could teach them how to do outreach, how to source, and how to do everything because I did this for literally five years. Right? Like... I was really damn good at it. You know? Like, I was literally the top salesperson, top manager until I I got to, to to the VP position. So, yeah, I'm in, bro. Like, we need to figure this out, of, like, how we could potentially work together. And, essentially, like, each of us, like, kinda operate in our own lane, and everybody can get paid. You know what I'm saying? Like, does [0:22:45] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah, bro. Just figure out a product, sell it to somebody for a lot of money, and then after the fact, you're like, yo. I've got this guy who's willing to pay this. Be like, I'll build it, bro. Like, a 100%, like, of... I'm down. [0:22:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Scalable. Like, I like the Raspberry Pi idea where it's just like you have to go in there. You can install it. Like, it's just [0:23:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah, bro. All these all these businesses, they have a a server room. Right? And, literally, like, the little Raspberry Pi, just plug it right in, and you're good to go. Like, maybe, like, ten minutes of, like, booting it up and, like, you know, whatever whatever. But, like, then, like, the business owner doesn't have to ever do anything at all. Like, nothing at all. You can remote tunnel into it if you need to for service things or whatnot, or you charge them for service to come in and take a look at the Raspberry Pi. You know what I mean? And now you've got now you've got ERP services and stuff too. Right? So, like, there's a whole new industry that's, like, on the cusp of building, and everybody's focused about, like, my Bitcoin agent on Polymarket made me $20,000. You know? It's like, yeah. Great. Okay. You can have that market. It's so saturated now. Like, I wanna hit up the local construction companies and restaurants. [0:23:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Brad, on on on a serious note, which model do you use for Raspberry Pi? [0:23:56] Bread @_ToastMalone: I've got a... It's a Raspberry Pi four b is the one I'm running, just because it's one that I've had for a couple of years now that was, like, sitting in a closet. And I was like, alright. Well, before, all I was doing was playing old Super Nintendo games on it because it ran a sweet emulator. You know? And, so I was like, I should probably use this thing for something better. And now I'm running Picobot for the Claude agent, and I'm running Minimax for the local LLM. So it doesn't cost me anything at all in API BS and tokens and all of that. Like, I just hooked up a a solid... Like, a two terabyte hard drive to it and mounted everything to that, and so that's essentially where its brain is. [0:24:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Nice. Yep. So what what I'm what I'm going to do, I'll add the image of that for us boomers in the comment section of the page of what it looks like. It's actually pretty cool. [0:24:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Thank you, boomer support. Let's go. [0:24:49] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'll take a picture of it. It's right here on my desk. [0:24:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, there you go. Even better. [0:24:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Alright. Let's go to the next story. John DeGuita. You guys remember John DeGuita? The FBI arrested his ass today in connection with a massive crypto theft from US government wallets. He was actually in Saint Martin apparently thinking, like, oh, I'm just chilling out. You know what I mean? [0:25:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: But Oh, he... We actually went to Saint Martin thinking that he could hide there? Uh-huh. Oh, that's pretty funny. [0:25:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. And what's interesting is, like... So this kid is 22 years old. Right? Like, his dad... They're from Virginia, and his dad is the CEO of a company called CMDSS. They were... Excuse me. They were a contractor working with the US Marshals Service. Right? So the US Marshal Service are the ones who essentially are responsible for any, like, crypto... Like, the custody of any crypto, theft. Turns out Zac XBT got this little boy's number after he siphoned away $4,040,000,000 dollars in crypto that was controlled by the US Marshals Service. Obviously, from past criminal cases, whatever, they traced this telegram. You guys remember the whole deal. We covered it here on on ATC. It was wild. They did this whole band for band thing. It was literally a kid being a kid, like, legit. And when they got him today when they got him today, they said they arrested him with a cash, hard drive. This is what they confiscated. Cash, hard drives, and security keys for all of the crypto wallets. And now you're probably asking yourself, so the US government is confiscating crypto from me, right, or from whoever, and literally this kid from a con... The CEO of a, like, a government contractor is now the one that's obviously... You know, was the one that that that that that that was able to steal from from the government. But justice was served today, ladies and gentlemen, even though he was 22 years old. I don't know what happened to dad. If you guys remember, he deleted his LinkedIn account. He deleted pretty much everything. Guys, Nat, how do we feel about the US government security in this case? [0:26:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: This is a... This is actually a really good... A story a story letting us know that even if you're an insider, right, you are still held responsible for for your actions. Right? But it is very alarming, the fact that it was an insider's kid that actually actually did did this. This. But I am actually part of a of a Saint Martin Facebook group. Right? And I'm literally going through it right now. And they they were able to arrest him with the help of the gendons, which is the, the French police. So for those that don't know, Saint Martin is split in two. Right? French side and the Dutch side. So he thought he could live large in one of the villa... The villas on the front side of the island. Right? It's called Bassetan. They, it's like a lowland. It's like... How do I say? It's like the Beverly Hills, like, super rich. They go to Saint Martin. Trump has, an estate there as well. So he thought he can lay low there and that no one could find out. But he didn't know that the US marshals, they were actually in communication with the from the French side from the French side of the island, and together, they were able to to get him with... This is so cool. Someone's actually breaking down the whole story on this Facebook group right now. Very interesting. [0:28:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And in the in the French, we say. Matt Matt, did you know that actually that... I mean, at one point in my life, a very long time ago, I was married. I got married in Saint Martin. [0:28:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: You did. You told me. That is [0:28:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: very interesting. [0:28:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I went to [0:28:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Way way back when. Way back when. Yeah. Got married on the beach and everything. The whole, like, villa rental, you know, wedding on [0:28:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: the beach. Front side. [0:28:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. On the on the Dutch side, actually. On the Dutch side. And, yeah, got divorced nine months later. [0:28:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, dang. [0:28:33] Bread @_ToastMalone: Tan suits, bro. [0:28:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [0:28:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Why? If you don't mind, like, you guys... What happened if you if you don't mind, like, [0:28:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: back you really No. We're not talking about that. Yeah. [0:28:44] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I'm not [0:28:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: trying to ruin my street cred. What the hell? No, Natalie. I can't tell you what the hell happened here. Were you nuts? [0:28:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Okay. Okay. Fine. [0:28:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. That's in the back channels. Like, what [0:28:52] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: the heck? [0:28:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I tried, guys. I tried. [0:28:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: But say... But Saint Martin is a is a nice place. It's a lovely place. And, apparently, they thought, like, oh, no extradition. Meanwhile, the government was like, we gonna get this little shit. Like, there is no way this little kid's escaping. Hell no. You robbed his dad from his pops? Like, no, bro. [0:29:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I'm curious to know if my mom heard anything. They live... She lives in Saint Martin with my stepdad. We have a place there. It's... Yeah. It is very beautiful. We go... But we we went there with my daughter. Just have to go back with my son, but I'm curious. I'll call her later and see what she what she makes of it because apparently that has been the news on the island. [0:29:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, when this something... Like, happens, that's, like, the talk of the whole island. I mean, like, this is the most action they've seen in probably. Who knows how [0:29:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: long this is? [0:29:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're probably like, oh, rich dude get... Rich kid gets arrested. Let's go. You know? So... Yeah. I mean, but look. I don't know, man. It's kinda wild. We still don't know how the kid got ahold of the keys to the wallet. Did the dad give it to him? Did he steal them from him? Like, was it on the same computer? Like, you're going to his MetaMask and be like, let me just move this over and go band for band with this idiot and be like, yeah, MFer. Check me out. You know what mean? Like, just some dumb 22 year old shit. [0:30:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So what... What's very interesting is that they're using this as an example to let everyone know that they can't commit crimes in America and flee to to Saint Martin because they will 100% get arrested. Right? In in in the in the Facebook post, it says that anyone that attempts to defraud American taxpayer regardless of the location will be brought to justice. [0:30:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Only because he got caught. Otherwise, that guy would like... So sorry. Yeah. Did I walk [0:30:28] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: in on the... Dave, did you... Were you married? It explains a lot. [0:30:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. There's a whole other story there [0:30:32] Voice K: that Dave is going to reveal to us at some stage and forget the back channels. [0:30:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: See what I'm saying, Matt? You see what [0:30:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm saying? Oh my god. I am so sorry. How do we go back and, like, undo? Brad, how do we undo the first, like, fifteen minutes? Is it like... [0:30:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: Control z. Yeah. Command z. You got it. [0:30:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: See what I'm saying? This is crazy. This is insane. We'll be trying to update the title, and these guys are coming and be like, oh, [0:30:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: this explains a lot. You were married once before. Leave me alone. Okay? [0:31:02] Voice K: That's what friends are for. We're here to support you and help you through. And... Yeah. [0:31:08] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Okay. Let's turn the topic back. Was it the kid or the dad that got arrested? [0:31:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: The kid. It was the kid. [0:31:15] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. Good. Yeah. [0:31:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look. At the end of the day, like, 22 years old or not, they arrested him in Saint Martin, Naim, with the help of the French authorities. [0:31:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, when it comes to crypto, when it comes to scheming people. I also read another story today about Philly Tuna. Do you guys know this influencer that was robbed of, like, 24,000,000 or something like that? [0:31:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Meme coin. No? [0:31:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, who knows? I mean, listen. Maybe what goes around comes around. That's some bad karma. You wanna launch a meme coin and, like, fleece everybody, but it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But in that same breath, everybody go buy s link. Thank you. But... Yeah. Exactly. That's my point. Wait. Cool's stuck in the [0:32:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I'm trying to get him out of the can. It's not that I [0:32:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: can Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We gotta we gotta get him up. I mean, Natalie, I [0:32:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: think of... You know what [0:32:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I realized also? I think if we do it at the same time, then it rejects him. You know? So let's give me... [0:32:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. It won't give me the I'm [0:32:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: gonna send you a co host invite. Maybe he can... We we could do that there. But... Yeah. Anyways, I see Gamer came up. Yami came up to... Gamer, what's up, bro? How are you? [0:32:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alpha Gamer, can you hear me? [0:32:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: I got you. What a wonderful day in the bay today. [0:32:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a beautiful day in the bay. Beautiful. Goddamn it. Goddamn it. Gamer. Oh my god. I can't believe this. What is going on? Cool. Can't get up here. Cool. I sent you the cohost invite. Vibes again. Oh, this is... This must have been a rug... This is a rug city. Yeah. You know how Twitter just kinda, like, farts? [0:33:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just saw, like, five people at the same time. [0:33:11] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. [0:33:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, Alpha Gamer said he he didn't gave up. It's it's... I definitely understand, Alpha Gamer. [0:33:16] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: What did he say? I gave up? [0:33:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. He's he's been trying to come up for a while. It just keeps on rugging him, and I think it's the same Really? Same thing with cool. Yeah. [0:33:25] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: What the heck? Yeah. I [0:33:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't know what's going on. Hold on. Let me try and cancel the cohost invite. Cool. Let me send you just a regular invite. That's weird. Yeah. Twitter just just... Yeah. I see all the Android users dropping out. I've never seen DocNooNoo drop out 10 times and then kinda pop back in. So... You know? [0:33:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. No. Slander shall be tolerated. Okay? That means they've gone for me. [0:33:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm just saying. I'm not slandering. Did they pump a 90%? [0:33:50] Voice K: Fine. You're gonna get fined for that going forward. Just letting you know. Yeah. We're updating the rules. We've got 10,000,000. We... We've decided we've got a new goal. [0:33:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, god. Did DocNooNoo nuke the s link chart right when it was going back up? Is that what... Did she do that name? Like, we were getting so much momentum. Like, did DocNooNoo nuke [0:34:07] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No, bro. She says she canceled. Maybe she was reverse psychology, she was saying I canceled my cell orders. I'm not selling. So one... No. Not 1,000,000, 5,000,000. Not even 5,000,000. 100,000,000. [0:34:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. DocNooNoo, why are you doing this to us? Like, let us live. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let us live. [0:34:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: They said, tell me why. [0:34:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Oh my god. I'm getting cooked. Hey. Hey. No. No. [0:34:38] Moni @monitalan: I just came up here to send emojis. [0:34:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You can't do that because, you know, I can't kick you off stage, and I'm allergic to thumbs down. Stop it. [0:34:47] Moni @monitalan: No. I did not sell. I do not sell. You clearly do not know me. [0:34:51] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's my job is to sit up here and not say anything and throw emojis. [0:34:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair. That's fair. You can't be impeding on Brad's job. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [0:35:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: I could totally envision Brad just sitting up here throwing emojis while eating crayons in the background. [0:35:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: I also gotta say something. Like, in that last s link space, I felt a little dirty, if I'm being honest. Like, with those other two guys that came in, and they were just like, you guys don't know. You gotta trust this man. You gotta do this. I was like, I feel a little dirty right now. Like, I'm listening to them talking. I was just like, ugh. I don't feel right. Even though, like, I'm feeling it, I just was like, ugh, man. [0:35:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait. So are you saying don't trust me, bro? [0:35:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. I'm not. I'm saying to everyone, trust me, bro. You know? Or rather trust s link, [0:35:36] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: bro. [0:35:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: You did... [0:35:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. You started so confident, I think. [0:35:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was super, super confident. [0:35:44] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I got rogue. Did the new new confess? [0:35:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. She confessed. She said it was her and that she won't do it again. We gave her the... We read her the riot act. It is what it is. But, yeah, I thought it was funny that we [0:35:55] Voice K: don't You missed the really important bit that Dave told us about his marriage, and that [0:36:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: was What's that? That was amazing. [0:36:02] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. No. I heard Oh [0:36:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: my god. What what happened? Oh my god. Vibes looks like Vibes getting rugged. Oh, no. Terrible. Vibes. [0:36:08] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. I I called the [0:36:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Do a lap and come back, Vibes. Sorry. Nayim, were you saying something? What's that? That's fine. Should we go on to the next story? Okay. Great. Yeah. We'd... I'd love to do that. Thank you. Yeah. Love this so much. Okay. Next next story. Woke up this morning. Piece of shit. I woke up this morning to some green god candles on OKX. I saw $80 for yesterday closed at $78 to, like, 104, $105. Like, what is going on? If you guys remember way back when, this was in December, actually, a couple days before me and Natalie made the silver bets. Actually, no. Sorry. This was actually not December. This was during October when I was in Canada the first time. I actually remember where I was when we talked about this polymarket, investment. ICE, intercontinental, excuse me, Intercontinental Exchange, which is the parent company of the New York Stock Exchange, today has invested in OKX. That is the same company that invested in Polymarket. Right? Do you guys remember what my theory was with this? Right? This is gonna be my cold date and victory lap right now. I said that ICE is buying Polymarket, and there's going to be some way, shape, or form, like, into the... Like, from a user base for people to start trading tokenized equities. Right? Get them using something on chain like Polymarket, but they decided to go one step further. They made an investment into... They said it was not disclosed. I'm looking at the... For the price here. But what was disclosed, they said they made an investment at, that gives OKX a a valuation of $25,000,000,000. That is a lot a lot of money. A lot of money. But... And if you're looking at this now, OKX obviously being one of the bigger exchanges out there. I think OKX is probably one of the more, I'd say, tech advanced, like, platforms. But a $25,000,000,000 valuation from ICE, you know, after an investment from ICE is monstrous. So now ICE, owner of the New York Stock Exchange, like, shareholder... Like, lead investor and and shareholder now in Poly... Equity holder in Polymarket, and now makes strategic investment in OKX. Like, the world is moving on chain, ladies and gentlemen, and it's literally happening in front of your face. Right? So open your eyes, take a good look because this is literally happening right in front of you. Okay? The... One of the biggest financial companies on the planet when it comes to financial markets, trading, you name it. ICE is literally the biggest. They're the parent company of the New York Stock Exchange, now has Polymarket as an... As a portfolio company, and now has OKX as a portfolio company. Think about that for a second. That is huge. Now you're bridging traditional finance with crypto native trading platforms. What this means? Tokenize everything. You hear Danny Larry say it all the time. You hear us say it all the time. They are tokenizing everything. There's gonna be instant settlements now for all of these for all of these tokenized equities. This is what we're talking about. So when you hear us talk, I know we... Like, people are gonna laugh and say, oh, when I say s link, but, like, when we say RWAs, this is what Securitize does. Right? Like, you're tokenizing the world. Real world assets, real estate, equities, treasuries, bonds, credit markets, all of it so that you can now bring it on chain. It's a huge, huge deal. Apparently, like, Ice thinks that OKX is is is best suited for something like this. Obviously, they couldn't... They're not gonna invest in Coinbase, which is already public. We saw Kraken come out with, obviously, some big news recently about them becoming a bank. So you're seeing all, like, the... I mean, this is the hyperfinancialization or the hypertokenization of the financial world rather that we're seeing happen literally live in front of our face. Yeah. Naeem, go ahead and then Naho. Yeah. [0:39:54] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Shameless plug of one of my bags. Ice have also partnered with Xero, Layer Xero blockchain, including... And and OKEx are one of the backers of them too, and, like, ArcInvest, Google, DTCC, or whatever they're called, and a bunch of others. So, yeah, interesting that they're all, like, sort of making moves on particular projects. [0:40:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's big it's big news. And LayerZero, for those that don't know, literally powers all of the, like, cross chain, omni chain, bridging. I mean, you name it. Right? Like, LayerZero is the preeminent tech. If you're going to... If the future of finance is chain agnostic, then you obviously need to understand. You need to understand how to be able to move money from one chain to the next, and layer layer zero does that really, really well and really, really securely. So, yeah, big fan of layer zero. And don't forget, that's what powers beyond. So Bitcoin is coming to layer zero. Just FYI. That's a shameless wall chain plug, but it is what it is. Anyways, yeah. So Sunny d came up. Sunny d, what's up? How are you? Yo. Doing pretty good. It was a beautiful day [0:40:59] Sunny D @dylN0chill: in my corner of the world, not as warm as the sunny Bay Area, but, I just had to pop in. And if you haven't seen already on the timeline, the SEC case against Tron and Justin Sun is finally over. So that's pretty cool. I'm stoked about that. [0:41:17] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: How has it ended? [0:41:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: We covered it at the open. That's the first story we covered. [0:41:24] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I missed it, bro. Sorry. [0:41:25] Sunny D @dylN0chill: There you go. Oh, you're alright. Sorry. [0:41:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: 10,000,000... No. You're good. No. No. $10,000,000 settlement, baby. That's it. Justin's off the hook. No big torrent. Everything goes out of the... Out the window. Justin's son is as clean as a whistle in the eyes of the SEC, ladies and gentlemen. [0:41:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Clean or clear? [0:41:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's clear. Clear. Clear. [0:41:47] Sunny D @dylN0chill: Clearish. Another thing is you probably saw that Tron's now on Gemini as well. So you were gonna continue to see TRX start to enter into the western exchanges. So, you know, whether you like it or not, it's coming, And USDT is now over... Also available on Gemini, so a lot of volume headed our way. [0:42:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Imagine we see TRX on Coinbase. Watch out, ladies and gentlemen. Watch out. Hold on to your hats. [0:42:19] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I may or may not have [0:42:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: a little [0:42:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: TRX promo at the moment. What's the current [0:42:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: price of [0:42:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: this stuff? [0:42:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is that safe? [0:42:26] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: It's been holding up, like, so well, like, relatively, like, to... Compared to all the alts, to be fair. [0:42:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: It never moves, bro. We say it all the time. It's the most steady, most boring gains you'll make, but goddamn it. It literally is the most solid. We say this every single week, bro. Every week, especially on the sun... The sun... On the sun spaces too. And suddenly, be great space this morning, man. Thank you for for always obviously coming through. Yeah, man. What what... The question is when are we gonna see TRX and HBAR together, Kanter? That's what we wanna know. One TRX listing on Hedera. [0:43:02] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I don't even know what that means. Like, I I just don't. What does that even mean? [0:43:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Call your boys at SaucerSwap. Call your boys at at the DEXs and just be like, listen. We need we need Tron to integrate with, you know, the the the Byzantine or whatever the consensus mechanism you guys have. [0:43:19] Voice I: You know what [0:43:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm saying? [0:43:21] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Well, we have we have a layer zero integration on Hedera, so nothing is stopping anybody from bridging Tron into Hedera ecosystem and making, a s level asset. And and now Hedera does support ERC twenties as well, so that makes it really, really easy. So I think if people are bullish on Hedera, there's nothing stopping anyone from doing that and moving it into the network and setting up an LP for it. Right? It is all permissionless. Layer zero vibrates. [0:43:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you wanna call Justin's son and ask him? [0:43:56] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Well, I don't have Justin Sun. He's...... Sunny D does. I don't know. [0:44:01] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: It's his excellency to you. [0:44:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hello, Justin. Come with us. [0:44:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I'm like, you're trying to get me canceled. I was about to do a crazy Justin Sun. I just wouldn't... Nah. That was a... Oh my god. Don't do that to me. Like, I'm a I'm a sucker for the bit. You ring the phone, and I'm gonna answer. Thank god. That was so close. Oh my god. That was so close. [0:44:23] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: It's a developer. It's so funny. [0:44:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Sandeep, can you call Justin Sun and see if he wants to, you know, bridge over... There's nothing stopping him bridging over to Hedera. So can we can we make that happen? [0:44:35] Sunny D @dylN0chill: I'll see what I can do. Okay. [0:44:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Cindy d. Love that. Love that. Love that. Nat, what's your what's your take on the OKX Isis, though, real quick before we kinda move on to the next story? [0:44:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I I think it's actually proved a very big deal. Right? I'm look... I was looking at at the price action, and I think some of it's sold off. Obviously, it's it's not... It it is... At the end of the day, it is crypto and no all season. But I think if we're talking long term investments, I think, in my opinion, this is definitely going on my watch list because I'd be seeing... We saw how huge, what was it, Polymarket has been ever since that initial investment from, ICE. Right? So I think, definitely, we cannot sleep on OKC. But I I did have a question for Cancer. Right? I think recently, you... Because you mentioned Hedera. There... There's been a a patent filing. I don't know if you saw this, Cantor, with... In regards to a US US Department of Transportation using some of Hedera's technology. [0:45:34] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Yeah. I think... I mean, if you just connect the breadcrumbs, obviously, FedEx joined the governing council. I mean, that's gonna be huge. Supply chain is a really big focus with a lot of enterprises and businesses that we speak to specifically, and Hedera is always a topic of conversation there. So it makes a lot of sense that folks are filing patents, especially when it pertains to DLTs. And, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if FedEx is planning to do a use case of some sort. [0:46:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, you fancy. [0:46:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, hang on a sec. You can't patent open source software. [0:46:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It can, sir. [0:46:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: So they are... It's actually... Go ahead, Ken. [0:46:17] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: You can't... I mean, you... The open source software can... You can still be open source, but what you would patent is the methodology of doing certain things. Right? And you patent it at the the intersection of hardware and software. I think that's generally where you have a sweet spot on a patent. With software, I mean, obviously, you have things like Microsoft Word that people are still paying for today. Right? So, it... Yeah. It's a lot more complicated when you're looking at a a decentralized and trustless ecosystem, but I think we do it at the hardware level, which makes a lot of sense when you're thinking about logistics. Right? [0:46:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So the the... This this pattern in in particular was for something called u r... RUC. So it's road user charges. So I don't know if you guys know what what it is, but if you know how we have... When you if you have a gas car, you go put gasoline in your car and some of that portion goes into taxes and the government uses that for whatever they need to use it. Right? But, what what the patent is saying that it creates a big gap. The current system in place creates a big gap between, you know, cars with gases and electric vehicles. Right? Electric vehicles, they're not paying that tax. So what are you seeing, Doug, and what this patent in particular is is is is meant to do is just to close the gap. Right? So instead of paying, taxes when you put gas in your car, what they're saying is that you pay per mileage. Right? So you drive one mile, you pay 1p. You drive a a 100 miles, you pay 1 hun... You pay a 100 pennies. Right? So, this is so that it... They can it can make both sides fair and even when it comes to, taxes and and stuff and stuff like that. And, the story goes on to mention because I I dug into this, for our Ravdeck space yesterday. The story goes on to mention is the reason why they chose Hereda in particular for this... For for for this plan is because of the the technology and how secure it is, and it's something that they can rely on too. [0:48:20] Bread @_ToastMalone: Is this the California rule? Is that what you're referencing? The one where they're trying to charge the Californians for driving? [0:48:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: It doesn't mention a particular state. [0:48:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: How are they tracking the miles? [0:48:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is a great question. I think this is part of the the technology that he's trying to patent. [0:48:39] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: HCS and the hardware level component that could prove the access stations with eight k perks or something like that. [0:48:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: There you [0:48:46] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: go. Right. That's a... Like, plug into, [0:48:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: like, your OBD reader. Like, you'd have to actually have, like, a chip in your car kind of hardware. [0:48:52] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Yeah. Yeah. That's how would suspect. [0:48:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nerds. [0:48:58] Bread @_ToastMalone: Hardware is cool, man. [0:49:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Those Raspberry Pi's look like they're really cool. What kind of picture is that of a Raspberry Pi? Bro, there's just wires everywhere. [0:49:06] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. It's all hooked up right now. I'm not gonna unplug it just to show you. Like, it's running. [0:49:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: What is... The Raspberry Pi is the white thing that's on the floor. Right? [0:49:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's the blue wire. [0:49:16] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the wall. [0:49:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Thank you, Brett. Thank you for it. Thank you for it. Guys, you know what I just realized? Like, I have to do so much work now when Landy's not here. I feel like Landy talked so much. We've gone through, like, four or five stories, and I'm, like, exhausted already. I'm like, holy cow. This is kinda nuts. [0:49:36] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Well, good. [0:49:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't really realize how much news we can get through when Landy's not here. [0:49:42] Sunny D @dylN0chill: You know what's funny? I I basically hooked my dad up with a... An x account, and I made him follow you. And this is the only x space he ever listens to, and he calls it Dave's World. [0:49:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Oh my god. I'm a legend in the real world. Holy cow. Let's fucking go, Sunny d. Dave's World. Shout out you. [0:50:08] Bread @_ToastMalone: Time excellent, bro. [0:50:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Shout out to you, Sonny d's dad. Let's go. Oh my god. I love that. Yes. [0:50:16] Sunny D @dylN0chill: We're breaking into the normies, guys. That's... It's all of our jobs. We need to go onboard people and then bring them here. [0:50:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a ballsy move with your dad. You know? I don't think... My dad literally just Bitcoin shames me every day. You know what I mean? He's just like, oh, Bitcoin. 60,000? Going to zero. And I'm like, oh, shit. Whatever. [0:50:36] Sunny D @dylN0chill: This past weekend was pretty rough. [0:50:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's like, what are you doing with your life? [0:50:41] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. I was [0:50:42] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: just like, [0:50:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: goddamn it. I thought I was I'm listening to Dave's world. They're telling me everything's gonna be fine. [0:50:50] Voice K: Trust me, boo. [0:50:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Steve's world party time. Excellent. Guys, Ben's here. Okay? You guys don't know who Ben is? Everything that we were talking about yesterday and what you guys promised me you were gonna do, but you still haven't done with Star Child, which you better start doing. Okay? We're gonna talk about that with Ben today. So let me just say what's up to Ben. Ben, what's up, bro? Thank you for waking up early. I know it's very early in your part of the world. How are you? [0:51:18] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. GM from sunny Kuala Lumpur. Jealous. That is beautiful. Sunny Kuala Lumpur. Over here, [0:51:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: it's rainy and cold. Brooklyn. Ugh. Disgusting. Yeah. [0:51:31] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: We're in, like, one of these weird places where the weather is exactly the same 365 of the year. So you can just uninstall the weather app and go about your life. [0:51:41] Bread @_ToastMalone: You don't happen to know if Miami hit 81 degrees today, do you? Asking for a friend. [0:51:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, you're literally in the weather markets. Are you kidding me right now? How... Where... How did you get there, bro? What what happened to you? [0:51:53] Bread @_ToastMalone: So I was bored. [0:51:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? [0:51:57] Bread @_ToastMalone: And I was sick of just, like, watching, like, the Bitcoin agents run their thing, and it's like, you know, number go up, and that's cool. But, like, I was bored. I wanted to build something else. And so I have this list of, like, 1,200 free API endpoints. And so I was like, alright. Like, let's see which one of these is worth a shit. And, ultimately, it was, like, back testing the past couple of days on weather. And the first day, I hit a 100% dry run, you know, paper trading the weather markets. And then the second day, hit 90%. So I was like, alright. Let's take $200 and throw it at the weather and see what happens. You know? And so I'll know I'll I'll know by tonight whether that was, like, you know, smart or probably not. I don't know. But, yeah, you know, fun times. [0:52:41] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: I've I've never traded the weather markets. What is the liquidity like on that? Like, the slippage on a $100, what would that be like? [0:52:51] Bread @_ToastMalone: I mean, so, like, I'm in 10 markets, you know, of weather, and I'm at a 100 and $187 in averaging at a max of $50 was what I set per market. And so it spread it out across, yeah, the 10, and I had, you know, instant fills. No issue. You know? So I assume it's probably like a... Like, you could probably get, like, at most maybe $500 fill across the different markets, you know, depending on the city and state and whatnot. [0:53:21] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: I see. So you gotta be a weather multinational around the strategy. You can't just pull off, like, one city. [0:53:27] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, no. No. I'm in Chicago, Miami, New York, LA, London, and Paris this week. [0:53:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it. I love it. [0:53:34] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: There are rap songs written about people like you. [0:53:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. You're a legend at this point. And, also, you do have the Raspberry Pi plugged into the back of your head. What is that noise in the background that we keep hearing? [0:53:45] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, I'm actually cooking dinner, you know, while the Raspberry Pi is downstairs doing things. [0:53:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair enough. Fair enough. Alright. Good stuff. Yeah. It's a weather market. It's interesting. Ben, while you're here... Ben, this is Nat, Brad, Vibes, Naeem, Sunny d. A lot of our regular crew is out... Is is out today. Obviously, apparently, they have lives. We don't. But... Yeah, man. Would love for you to kinda give a a quick... We were talking about Star Child yesterday. We were talking about AI. Everyone was telling Natalie that she was crazy because she needs to get on board with the agent bus, and and she was like, guys. Guys. Guys. I get it. I need to do this. Natalie, I would like to to open up the floor to Ben so that you can hear exactly what we're talking about with agents. But, Ben, we were talking about how agents should essentially supplement what it is that you're doing, obviously, like, as a trader. But if you can give maybe, like, a quick high level overview for Star Child, that would be amazing. [0:54:39] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. Sure. Love to. I don't know. I think the agents right now is the biggest unlock that we've seen in AI, and the speed that AI is coming right now. It is so undeniable. It's, like, one of the biggest, jumps in human history. Like, it's up there with electricity and fire, the industrial revolution, and how it's going to change the landscape. And a lot of people are not sleeping on it, but, you know, they're just still using ChatGPT as an alternative to Google. So... But it's it's an opportunity. Right? It's it's not for everyone, but I think if you really wanna go down this rabbit hole, it's gonna make everything you do in life at least 10 times easier, more productive, faster. It's a multiplier. So, personal agents really just connecting all your LLMs to things that you do in your life. And, you know, like the weather market's saying, that's, like, actually a really cool thing to build with personal agents because there's probably so many things. If he's not using an agent already, it sounds like he is if he's running a Raspberry Pi. But, yeah, I mean, that's, like, something that wouldn't even be possible unless you got out the spreadsheets and the pens and pencils before. But now it's really just a prompt away. [0:56:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. Yeah. And can you maybe fill us in on exactly what Star Child is, what it does, and kinda, like, how people can utilize it? [0:56:08] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. Should've started there probably. But... [0:56:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You're good. [0:56:13] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. So it starts out as... Like, the the issue with OpenCloset is really, setting up a PC from scratch and then running Linux on it and trying to, you know, download everything, through a terminal, which is very, very hard. And if you do it wrong, there's security risks. If you do it inefficiently, it's gonna cost you a lot of money. So everyone's like, oh, OpenCloset. They're so dangerous. I wanna put that on my device. Now other people are, like, running out to buy Mac mini, which is overkill, but it's, you know, all part of the hype. And what we're doing with Star Child is we're we're giving people a chance to deploy within our hosted, Dockers so that it's easy, it's secure, you don't have to configure it. And then we're giving it access to a lot of tools that people in our area of the world, which I would say traders, are... Will find useful. Right? So different skills, crypto payment rails. So everything comes out of the box ready to go. And trying to build a community around it too of people who are building cool stuff related to trading. Honestly, right now, some of the biggest things in trading are not in the crypto space even though I am a crypto native myself. War is obviously completely dominating the market influences right now. And if we head down a dark path, which sadly, it seems like we're we're going that way, probably the next few years, it's... The markets will just be completely influenced by things like oil prices and money printing and and things like that, which are all caused by, you know, the war. So, I think for traders, the need to... You know, you can't just look at the chart anymore and go, oh, I think support's here and resistance here, and that's so I'm gonna buy that safe and, you know, I'll I'll close and break a 100 k. Like like, that that used to be how you could get away with trading, but now it's not. You need more data. You need more information. There's just so many things going on. The markets are more connected than ever. So there's a, you know, there's a big chance for people who are serious about elevating their their... You know, protecting their finances, but, like, also becoming more sophisticated with how they manage it. And and these are the people that we want to find and work with and, you know, build cool stuff together. [0:58:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that. I [0:58:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: absolutely love what what you said. Right? Because it was a big miscommunication yesterday, and we... You know, what we were talking about. Right? So what you're saying is that you... What you're building can be used as a complement to our trading. Right? We can use it to help streamline certain processes and kinda give us an edge within the overall market. Right? [0:58:54] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: If... Yeah. That's the the the objective. You don't have to use it for that. You could use it for anything. But... Wonderful. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. [0:59:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: And I love the idea. I love the idea of using it for, the weather. Can you imagine weather predictions? That... I think that's... That would be awesome. [0:59:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brad? [0:59:15] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yes. Yeah. Just one of... Yeah. I mean, that's... That that one's just this week's agent. You know what I mean? Like, I I got bored and was like, what the hell else can I de gen on? You know? And, you know, I'm not gonna manually watch those things because, like, who has time for that? Right? So just like, yeah, built an agent, and now it's like I've got... Oh, I mean, honestly, at this point, like like, now accepting donations, I need a new computer, bro. Like, I... This thing is cooked, dog. Like, to the point where I've got, yeah, I've got four agents running on my MacBook Pro and currently, I've got one now running on my Raspberry Pi and I need more, bro. I need more. [0:59:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Naim, go ahead. And then I got a bunch of questions I wanna go through with Ben. But... Yeah. [0:59:57] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yo. Yo. Yeah. Just a quick one. So I think I spoke to yourself, Ben, on on all this space a while back. Is it still the same? Like, are you guys... From my understanding, it doesn't conduct the trades itself. It just provides you with a plan, like, based on your conversation with... Are you guys moving towards the the actual execution of things as well now? [1:00:19] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Agent Naeem. Yes. Yes. Good to see you again, man. Yeah. You can you can... It executes trades. You just tell it where you want to trade on, and it can store API keys or... Yeah. There's a... I mean, that's pretty crucial, right, to having an agent. It's gotta be able to do everything start to finish. [1:00:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: So give us an example of what some of the... Like, what like, what like, what agents are currently running on Star Child? Like, give me some, like, maybe some success cases, Ben, so people can hear what they could potentially do, and then maybe we can jump into kinda, like, the skills portion and how people can develop skills and, like, what is it plugged into, what is it not plugged into, and and so on. [1:00:57] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Okay. Well, it's essentially... Its core, it's running a modified version of OpenCLaw. So anything that you can do with OpenCLaw such as weather agents is possible. Right? So just that as a as a caveat. It launched last Friday. I've been building these, like, a very simple grid bot, which is a very basic implementation of a strategy. But it's something, like, someone with my abilities could never do before, my technical abilities. And that has actually been doing quite well just because Bitcoin's in this horrible range right now. So this is very good for grid bots. I've also told it to arbitrage funding rates across Hyperliquid, and another DEX, well, orderly. And so that's that's going on now. It's looking at the RWA markets, Google, Nvidia, and it's just finding when the funding rates are different, which on orderly is quite often because the liquidity there is not as good as hyperliquid. So, yeah, I mean, these are just very, like, simple cases, but we wanna build stuff like the weather because I think that is that is more like the the the kind of complicated use cases that were impossible for everybody to do before, but are now possible with, AI agents. [1:02:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. And now when somebody gets started, right, so, like, they load up credits. Right? Like, where where does one start? Because here... I think I told you the other day, like, right after I left ATC, Nat and I came up with this great idea where we were just like, oh, like, if if we plug into the SEC website, right, like, we just start pulling form four data about, like, insiders being able... Like, that are now, like, you know, selling, like, specific equities. That would be a really cool kinda agent for us to be like, okay. Like, let's kinda create a system where we find out who's selling, obviously, a bunch of other different indicators, then we can kinda go from there. But what can people... Like, what are some people, like, doing now? Yeah. [1:02:55] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: So the the question is where do they start? [1:02:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, where do you start? [1:02:59] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: I mean, that's it, really. I think you you start with an idea. You gotta figure out how to build it. Right? But for the the interface itself, it's quite simple. Right now, you just go to iamstarchild.com, and you can top up with USCC. If you have a cool idea that you wanna build, definitely get in touch, and I can hook you up with some some credits to get started for free. And then... Yeah. I mean, just... It's just like, any other sort of trading strategy. I guess you gotta find data source. Usually, the agents can find it for yourself. But for more complicated things like the SEC one, you might need to work together on it to to find this and automate it. But, yeah, I think I think it's really just... This is the sort of product that, people who are more creative, productive, and think outside the box are gonna have a lot of fun playing with because there's really no, like, into the sort of things that you can build with it. [1:03:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Interesting. Sage, go ahead. You have a question? [1:04:05] Voice I: Sure. So as regards the agents, is the conversion to the tokens on a one to one basis, or is... How does it really work? What's the minimum amounts needed to actually use StarShite? [1:04:21] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Depends on the strategy. Like, you know, if you're trading weather markets, apparently, you know, you need a few $100 per market, is an ideal range. For something like funding rate arbitrage, you'd more capital intensive to to, you know, lock in those gains. I mean, I think for the the actual LLM costs, there are different models you can run, and these are getting cheaper every day. So at the beginning, was quite expensive because Opus is a monster. Like, Cloud [1:04:48] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Opus... Most expensive. [1:04:49] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. But the, like, the models are getting so cheap now. Some of the Chinese models like Quinn [1:04:56] Voice I: Do you do you support... The website supports Kimi k 2.5? [1:05:01] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: It does not support Kimi k 2.5, but the MiniMax 2.5, Quinn 3.5, and Gemini 3.1 Flashlight, which came out two days ago. That one I love. [1:05:14] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I'm [1:05:15] Voice I: At least Gem... Gemini has 1,000,000 contest windows, so it's can actually help anyway. [1:05:21] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. No. I'm I'm absolutely in love with Gemini flash 3.1. I think one flashlight, it... It's just so cheap to use. It's so fast. Yeah. It's like I was sending So Go ahead. [1:05:34] Voice I: So as it stands now, provincial, somebody is not actually technically inclined. Does the web... Does the website has, like, some templates to try out things out? So, okay, this is a template for fundage arbitrage. This is a template for weather... Okay. I know you have a yesterday produced the weather markets, like, this and both. Another simpler strategy is to actually get the fit rate to say, okay. This is this is to just get the feel of the website since it's it's more like a wrapper for OpenClaw agents. So [1:06:10] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. I wouldn't say it's a wrapper for OpenClaw agents, but, yeah, there's a cool thing about AI is if you're a beginner, you just tell it you're a beginner, and you tell it to make everything simple, build these templates. I, yeah, I think it'll be surprisingly easy for people to get into, but you just need to really learn how to communicate to the to the AI. It's it's kinda like when you had that, like, really technical friend. If you pretend to be super technical with him, he's just gonna, like, keep rambling on. But if you tell him you're an idiot, then he'll actually, like, dumb everything down for you, and then this is easy to use. [1:06:46] Voice I: That is really nice. As I... That is your... I like the project, sir. I'll I'll try and check it out in my region. But does this discussion you guys were seeing whether there's this company that is trying to, like, buy Wookiee eggs or something, ice. I'm, like, the only one that's naturally [1:07:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't do... You do this all the time to me, bro. Like, why do you do this to me all the time? [1:07:08] Bread @_ToastMalone: Did he say Wookiee eggs? No. Wookies don't like eggs. They're mammals. [1:07:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Stop it, Sage. We're literally talking about eggs now. We're talking about agents. We're not talking about Okanx and Ice, bro. [1:07:18] Voice I: Dominance is our our... [1:07:20] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I wonder we're on, like, [1:07:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: chapter 30, bro. Unbelievable, bro. Unbelievable. I'm a kill him. I swear. Same. [1:07:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: Stop it. [1:07:28] Voice I: Is it is it Dave Dave? Is it my fault my bro? [1:07:30] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Is this evil my bro? [1:07:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Like, you also didn't let Ben finish an answer. You ask a question, you cut him off literally, like, 15 words in, bro. Like, let the man answer your question. [1:07:39] Voice I: Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I answered. I said. [1:07:42] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I'll listen. [1:07:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're going on mute. That's it. Alright. [1:07:45] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: I can't believe the immigration people bought OKX. That's crazy. [1:07:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: That I'm Maniswana. [1:07:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You wanna know the sad part is that there's probably people reading that headline in this country that are probably like, you see? You see? I told you. ICE was in bed with this Asian company. It's like, bro, what are we talking about? [1:08:09] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: The Chinese. [1:08:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: The Chinese are evil. Like, stop it. Just stop it. I... Although I did... Ben, I did like Sage's question in terms of, like, the majority of people don't know how to talk to their GPT, right, or talk to AI. That's the biggest issue that I've always found is, like, getting started for people. So, like, obviously, like, for someone like me that, like... Or or most of us up here, it's a little bit easier to kinda get started where we know kinda just how to ask it, how to talk to it, like, what to say, what to ask for, how to maybe build some strategies. But for maybe those that are kinda just starting out, like, is it literally just like talking to GPT as as you normally would? Because it can seem a little bit intimidating because if there's a lot of, like, you know, a lot of, like... When people hear, oh, there's all these data points and API endpoints and this and that, it's like you can build a lot of different things. Like, people barely even know what OpenClaw is. So, like, any advice maybe for some beginners? [1:09:02] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. Actually, that's that's good advice. And I don't know if you [1:09:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: know what you said yet, but [1:09:07] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: you're talking about using ChatGPT. I I actually do that a lot. Like... So especially if you have a free plan for ChatGPT or Gemini or something, brainstorm with that. Right? Like, get in there. Tell it what you're doing. Tell it what this thing is capable of it. Feed it to docs, and then start, like, bouncing ideas around. And then what what ChatGPT is really good at or any AI is really good at is helping people prompt because they know how to format for an AI. So when you actually do go into the agent and you wanna start building an actual strategy, just let something like Gemini or ChatGPT do all the prompting for you, And you'd be surprised by how much more intelligent the systems feel when you have AIs talking to other... AIs. [1:09:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think all... So give me an... So, like, for somebody... So... Well, maybe weather markets might not be the thing. But... If so somebody did wanna build a strategy around, let's say... I mean, maybe they are, Brett. I don't know. But, like, for someone like Brett, obviously, who's more... Like, he's, obviously, like, being, like, on the developer side. But maybe let's say for the average person, like, can you maybe explain, like, what are skill... I think people, like, have a hard time when I say, like, well, what are skills versus scripts? Like, can you kinda maybe discuss the difference? [1:10:23] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. Sure. If you're getting into the Huddl ecosystem, definitely go down the rabbit hole and a skill is just a text file that explains to an agent how to do something. So for example, if you're a... You'd like to post on Twitter, let's say, you make a tweet every day, but you don't want it to look like chat g p t. So maybe you have very specific things you don't want it to do. Maybe you have specific words that you wanna avoid, and maybe you sign off every day with some some slogan or something. Right? So you you could put all of this in a very short text file. And then every day, say, I want you to create a tweet, tweet, but use Dave's tweeting skill, to create it. So your your AI agent will just run this task. It'll run it through the skill, and then bam, you'll have these tweets. Right? So that's, like, a very basic example, but there are... People are creating skills for everything. Like, okay. How to use the Hyperliquid API, to create this different strategy. Right? How to, pull weather from different sites and then send that to to people. Right? So so, yeah, people just... Anyone can create a skill. You just tell your AI to create skill. It just creates this little text file. You can send it to your friends. You can upload it to a marketplace, and then other people can, you know, add it to their agent or improve on it or something like that. So, yeah, this is the format that's been popularized, through Claw and through OpenClaw. And now, you know, it's also going to be used by most agents going forward. [1:11:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: And so now Google are using it too. Right? [1:12:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Say again. Sorry. [1:12:03] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. I was just saying Google is starting to use skills too. It's like, Anthropic basically came out and said, you know, like, how everybody thought that they were gonna move towards agents that are specialized, like, you know, swarms of agents that, you know, have been configured for specific... The specific functionality. What other big... Believe is, like, they'll have, like, you know, one agent that can just draw upon repeatable skills for particular utility, essentially. It's quite interesting, and Google have adopted it as well. [1:12:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. [1:12:36] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. I I mean, Google have been very embracing this. They're they're releasing tools for a lot of these agents now. So... I I mean, it's really a dogfight now for a land grab for these big AI companies to try to get get the users. So it's it's a good time for the consumer because we're getting so much stuff every week. [1:12:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: So so, Ben, if I create a skill, does that mean that everybody else that comes after me has access to that skill if they wanted it? And how did they access it, if so? [1:13:08] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: On... If you upload it, yes. Right? Or if you send it to a friend, right, it's just a text file. I mean, even if you describe it verbally on this call, I could just go back and make that skill. But if you didn't want people to do it, like, maybe it's a trading strategy that you've been developing for years, you could, of course, not share that with anyone. [1:13:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Because I I mean, I'm I'm kinda... I mean, I... I've obviously... Like, I've I've I've been in AI game for a while. Right? So, like, I understand it all. But for me, like, the like, the open claw stuff is fairly new. So I've been I've been having fun kinda just playing with Star Child and seeing kinda, like, what I can actually do. Brent, I'd really love for you to use this so that we can kinda see how your crazy brain would actually, like, unleash on this thing and and see what you can kinda, you know, put together. I mean, if you're trading weather markets at the end of the day, yeah, I would love to see it, bro. [1:13:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah, dude. No. I'm I'm absolutely down to play with it. You know? I've... I launched a a skill, well, as part of an SDK for cubes a couple of weeks ago. You know? It's a skill file with, like, 30 plus tools in it. You know? And and, ultimately, all an agent has to do is... Well, you can literally just, like, through Telegram, I can tell my agent, like, yo. Go download the cubes SDK. And it will... And it'll automatically register itself with Privy, register on 8004 into the ERC registry, and then it can use x four zero two to pay other agents through escrows and and whatnot. You know? And it's all, like, literally, like, as a user, the end user doesn't have to do anything at all, but just tell the thing, like, hey. Go download this thing. And then ask it, so now what can we do that you downloaded the thing? And it'll just walk you right through anything that you need to do. You know? It's... We're we're getting to a point now where it's gonna be a lot more consumer friendly. You know? There won't be as much, like, of CLI or command line terminal type stuff that you're not gonna have to really mess with that anymore. You know? We're getting real close to turnkey. [1:15:03] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: It's addictive, isn't it? [1:15:05] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, dude. There's so many ideas. And like I said, I'm, like, out of compute power now locally. And, like, I don't wanna put... Pay more for, like... I've already got render bills, and I've got... You know, I don't wanna... I don't need any more subscriptions. [1:15:18] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. I think there's certain people that flock to it. Right? Like, it's... Like, people who like to build stuff, maybe the ones that are into, like, Minecraft or Lego or just... They they look at this open world, and they see, man, I could build some cool shit with this. Like, I think these people are gonna be more drawn. People who are highly productive... Like, one of the one of the things I said on another space the other day is, like, my daily habits have changed so much since getting into agents because now, like, even when I go in the shower, it just feels like wasted time. So now I have this routine before I get in the shower. I find, like, one thing that is on my list of things I should have done, but I haven't, and I just give a voice message to my agent. I'm like, I'm jumping in the shower now. You got ten minutes. I want you to come up with a plan to solve this thing, and I want this plan. Just don't ask me any questions. Just give me the plan. And then I go shower, and I get out, and it's, like, there waiting for me. And it it just makes me so much more efficient, just keeping me on task with everything that I'm doing. [1:16:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Like, I I... I'm I'm... I wanna dig more, like, into it. I I wanna play around with it more. And I think, like, sometimes I I feel like I'm too... Like, you you... I get a little too cute. Right? We're just, sometimes you just gotta, like, keep it simple, keep it dumb, and just, like, have a conversation with your AI and just trying to understand exactly what the capabilities are. Right? Like, what it can do, what it can't do, and just kinda keeping it keep... More like just keep it simple in order to get started, and then I think that's when the ideas start flowing. [1:16:51] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: A little pillar talk? [1:16:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. A 100%. Exactly. You know? Like, you you gotta just some... You gotta massage the AI a little bit sometimes then tell me, like, hey. Am I onto something? Like, what would you do here? What would you do here? Like, give me your ideas. Like, am I crazy? Like like, why am I crazy? You know? Man, I've had so many pillow talk conversations with my AI. It's kinda nuts. Is that sad? [1:17:13] Voice K: This is compassion time from Dave. I love this. Yeah. [1:17:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. For sure. Yeah. What... Ben, any other, like, success? I know you're obviously running... You said, like, a a few different strategies, on Starchild. What what have been maybe some other, like like, some cool ones that you've maybe that seen on, maybe it kinda inspire some people that are here? [1:17:37] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. So so, like, one area that we're heading towards, I think, is... You know, when it started, it was sort of like we were a crypto company. This is back in 2020. And then realized that to really give traders the edge, it wasn't, like, better exchange info they needed. It was AI. But... So we sort of became an AI company about a year and a half ago. But then I feel like now it's gone beyond that, and I think what the world is going to really need over the next three years is access to real data and the intelligence to use it and then the tools to be able to protect their financial interest off that. I mean, we're getting into a pretty dark time potentially for the world, and you're seeing a lot of cases where, there is data out there that could be used, but people don't have access to it. And I don't wanna sound like a a conspiracy terrorist and go to a a bad place, but, like, people do need to really think about this. Right? And, like, I don't know. Just, like, potential for world wars, mass, like, currency devaluation, civil war. Like, these are all terms that are being thrown around. Right? And I think in this case, like, really having access to that, people building dashboards that look at information across the world and have it in one place. I think this is gonna be a very huge use of AI as people stop depending on, like, traditional app UX, traditional media, things like that. I I think this is the bigger picture. Right? Like, today, okay, we're building little trading strategies and and stuff like that. But, you know, this... I am going down a little bit of a rabbit hole. Forgive me. It is, like, really early here. My brain's not functioning. But, yeah, I don't know. I think I'm just trying to focus on the bigger picture of, like, what people need to do to really take control of the tools that are available, especially if we see, like, mass job loss and stuff like that from AI, which is possible. Like, every single Frontier Lab CEO has admitted, like, they have no idea what's gonna happen over the next decade with AI. So, yeah, we're we're in a we're in a perilous times, and I would encourage people to really be upskilling themselves every chance they get. [1:20:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Ben, that was such a great take. I 100% agree. I think when it comes to AI, people focus a lot on on just the trading aspect of it, and this is, like, what I was trying to do to yesterday. Right? But there's so much more that you can use these agents for that can put you in a better advantage across the board in your day to day life. [1:20:31] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Thank you, Nat Nat. I'm glad that someone agrees with me at seven in the morning. [1:20:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nave, go ahead. [1:20:40] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. Thanks. So I was just gonna ask about guardrails because of my understanding, obviously, there is some degree of guardrails within your... Within the application for, like, smart contract level approvals and stuff like that. So, yeah, I just wanted to know your thoughts on how you guys are approaching that at the moment. [1:21:00] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Mhmm. Yeah. Well, OpenCLO is sort of notorious for not giving you any guardrails, you know, that that's sort of the feature, not a bug. Right? They let you do whatever you want with it. It's open source. I mean, for us, we definitely wanted to get rid of some of the core risks. Right? And having it installed on your main device where it has access to your sensitive information and file systems, that's probably the biggest risk, with OpenClaw. And so by having it hosted, with Star Childs, you you you do get around that. The other ones is, like, how keys and things are stored. So by giving it an agent wallet where that is all managed, we take care of that risk. Although saying that, if you do want to add... Like, you can still do everything you can do on OpenClaw with Starchild. If you wanna add your own wallets to Starchild, you could do that, which would be exposing yourself to that risks again. But, yeah, I mean, we did make it very simple for someone to come on, get started, have a wallet, and there's no risk there. Right? But then, of course, what you do after that, it's it's sort of on the user to to be careful. But, yeah, like, I think I think we'll start to encounter, better ways to manage this. This is always a thing with AI and new technologies. It's like how much how much leverage do we wanna give users to to try new things. [1:22:32] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well... And at the end of the day, the user is always far far, we'll say, less aware of what to do than you would expect them to do. You know, it's one of [1:22:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: the other. [1:22:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. But you can't give them too many knobs and buttons because, ultimately, they end up accidentally launching the nukes. You know? [1:22:50] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Or the AI does it. [1:22:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. You can go ahead, bro. [1:22:57] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Thanks. Yeah. No. Nice one. That's good to hear. Yeah. The other thing is about the memory. Right? Like, I know OpenClaw have integrated or implemented memory in a... Not like a innovative, like, disruptive way, but they're just making the most of what exists today. Is... Are you guys, like, using the similar sort of thing with with regards to memory? How is that gonna work in terms of, like, the agent learning from from the trading and and stuff like that? [1:23:24] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yes. So so persistent memory, it... It's the concept of the AI kinda being able to remind itself across different sessions of what it already talked about. So so we've been doing some things on there. A lot of those improvements in the memory were not actually from OpenClub themselves. They're just from users who created things and then put it on websites or YouTube and then other people copied them. Yeah. So, I mean, a lot of these things we're working on as well. And this this is another thing that I think is improving super rapidly, like, over the last year. So looking forward, I think this is gonna be... Like, the cost is gonna go down, and the memory is gonna go, get way better over the next six months. So it's just like a a good time to be coming to grips with these tools. [1:24:15] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. I think it's the missing unlock for, like, for, like, yeah, a lot of reduction of hallucinations and just agentic applications, essentially, for sure. Thank you. [1:24:25] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. Yeah. These are two areas that we were looking at a lot. So improving the memory. Basically, using the best practices from OpenCLaw and then just installing it natively. Right? And as these practices improve, we keep updating, and that's, like, a service for users. Also, on the model optimization, so users don't have to worry about, oh, am I using the best model? Am I using the most efficient one? Is it the cheapest? We also have a smart routing feature. So when a user puts in a prompt, it will analyze that and determine the complexity and then assign an appropriate one. So you can actually save a lot of money on the the model cost. Or if you're like me who's kinda kinda, like, cost aware, you know, I always try to use, like, the... One of the cheaper ones that I feel better about, like, just experimenting on absolutely everything. But I think that's another advantage to to using, Star Child versus something like OpenClaw where every time you wanna change the model, you could end up, like, breaking it and having to go back into the configuration settings. I've done this so many times where my agent just stops responding, I have to knock open terminal and SSH into the VPS. And these are all things that a retail user is never going to do, on an application. [1:25:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Craig, go ahead. [1:25:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Yeah. Are you guys, are you providing the storage infra, or is it kind of like a bring your own DB type system? [1:25:50] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. It's in a container. So every single Starchot agent out of the box has ten twenty four megabytes of storage. And so, yeah, you have a whole workspace file system that can be hidden if you're a retail user, or you can just get in there and, do everything you would on an OpenCLO. [1:26:11] Bread @_ToastMalone: How quickly are you seeing those fill up, though? Ten twenty four is not huge. [1:26:17] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. I mean, at this stage, it hasn't been a problem. But, yeah, I mean, it'll be probably be pretty simple for us to... I haven't actually talked to the tech team about that, but I'm sure it's very simple for them to offer scalable solutions if people want it. [1:26:33] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. It's especially important for trading. Like, any of the agents that are trading, it's, like, really important to be logging the reasoning as well as the position sizing, the position time, and day, and all of those things for recursive learnings for any of the trading agents to spot volatility in the market at certain times or certain, you know, order book depth comes into play, you know, during certain times of the day depending on the market you're playing with and storing them all. You know, it it gets it gets big quick depending on how often you're you're taking those snapshots. [1:27:03] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. But but if a lot of that's text, right, so the text files are pretty small, and then, you could write to, like, external spreadsheets, you know, if you give it some sort of Google Sheets capability or something. So there there are there are workarounds for that, but I I do agree that over time, we're gonna have to think about how the power users are handling this. [1:27:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go for a name. [1:27:25] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Thanks for... Conscious, like, asking little bit about the one. But, like, just a follow-up to that. Like, what's the business model like? I know you mentioned credits earlier. Is there, like, a subscription involved, or is it just primarily credit based? [1:27:40] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: We haven't put a lot of thought into that. I I mean, if you know the history of our company, we we do have a decentralized exchange and a swap. So those do generate revenue for the business. Right now, we're we're really just trying to experiment and see what users are building with this. We're we're trying to get... Make sure that the users' credits are offsetting the LLM cost so we're not running at a big loss. But as I mentioned earlier, if you have a cool idea, like, we're happy to kinda subsidize some credits and just to see what will be built. I think the long game, there could be interesting ways for... To, like, monetize the different skills or dashboards that people are using. Like, let's say, Bread makes this amazing weather dashboard that, like, connects two different poly markets, and people could just go in there. Maybe they wanna pay to have, you know, twenty four seven access to this dashboard, and Dave, you know, keeps it updated and running and cool shit on there. I'm sorry. Dave and Brett does. Then, yeah, you could pay, like, a subscription fee. So there's other, like, monetization paths, but it... I think it comes down to how the users are interacting with it. And if the users are not interacting with it at all, we'll probably just scrap it and go back to the drawing board. I don't foresee that happening, but we're not... Basically, to answer your question, we're not in a rush to go out and say this is, like, our business model. Is how we're gonna make our revenue. It's it's really more about just trying to create the community first and see what comes out of that. [1:29:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Cool. I'm over here literally talking to him. Like, hey. So can you, really... Bro, I'm creating weather strategies, Brad, just so you know. I've now created a [1:29:21] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: a new whale who's entered the chat. [1:29:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Bro. I've created now a a bracket arbitrage strategy. The weather in London tomorrow will be less than 13 degrees Celsius. [1:29:30] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Trading against Brad. [1:29:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yep. Please give me some more liquidity, bro. I need bigger sizing. [1:29:35] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: This is who you're trading against. [1:29:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. The alpha the alpha is, in the weather is to pick up the no sides of the positions. Right? Because it's a binary outcome. Everybody psychologically always bets the yes. Right? Like, I'm gonna bet yes. It's definitely gonna hit 80 degrees or whatever. Well, if that wins, the no's on every other market also win. So, the no sides are [1:29:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: the alpha there. Explain that for people that don't understand that because that sound... That could be a little... Like, I I think that that kinda goes over a lot of people's heads. Can you just slow that down a little bit and explain to folks, like like like, if you bet yes, right, like, does that mean that... And if you bet no in another market, does that mean that you're winning or losing? Like, just kinda break that down really quick. [1:30:15] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. So poly market or any of the prediction markets. Right? It's called... It's a binary outcome. Right? It's either yes or no is going to be the outcome on any given market. Right? And things like the weather markets, you have the spread of maybe five different options, and each option has a yes or a no side. Right? It's a it's a p to PVP type market how it's set up. Right? And so, ultimately, you know, choices one through five, right, only one of them is going to have an outcome of yes, which means the other four will resolve at no. And so if you bet... You know, you take a position that is on the no side of things, even... You know, if the one that you didn't... You know, you pick yes on one and you vote no on the others. If that one yes wins, you win all of them because, ultimately, the other four options that you had didn't didn't predict yes. They didn't come out correct. So by ultimately buying the no sides, you are giving yourself an advantage in certain markets. I found with the weather market, it works well. Some of the sports markets, it works well. It works well with the... I mean, not to go too deep, right, but soccer, right, because that actually has three outcomes. Right? You have yes, no, or tie. And if you've... I mean, ultimately, anything that isn't a no, you know, you'll you'll win by betting the no side. [1:31:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it. [1:31:39] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Are you are you okay leaking these secrets live on his faces? [1:31:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Absolutely. Because people are gonna try to do it themselves and provide me liquidity to size up. [1:31:49] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: The the lawyers from Citadel are probably knocking on your door right now going, how do how do we stop this guy? [1:31:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: I mean, you hire me. That's how you stop me. [1:31:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brad, listen. I don't know about you, bro, but I got this this weather arbitrage down pat, bro. Okay? I don't know what you're talking about. This is, Seattle brackets add up to 0.94. I buy all the yes brackets. No matter which bracket wins, you collect more than you spend. Zero forecasting needed. Pure math. Just check if the sum is off. I like this climate model edge. Hurricane early season, bro. Just be prepared, bro. I'm coming for your weather back. [1:32:24] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Let's go, bro. Hurricane markets really heating up. [1:32:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: But that's a weather joke. Oh my god. Landy's not here, but, Ben, I guess you can take his place with the dad jokes. That was good. That was good. [1:32:36] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: That was not intentional. [1:32:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair. Fair. Fair. You sold it. You sold it well. You sold it [1:32:40] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: well. Comes naturally. [1:32:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Satan, you could arb the arb the hurricane markets with the typhoon markets. [1:32:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Wait. Hold on, Sage. One second. Let me go to Shaqsi. I feel like Shaqsi might have a more relevant question than you, Sage. So hold on a second because I know you're gonna try and [1:32:52] Bread @_ToastMalone: distract us. [1:32:53] Shaksi @shaksi: Okay. Can I be heard today? [1:32:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. You could be... Yes. We hear you. [1:32:56] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh my god. It's great. [1:32:57] Shaksi @shaksi: Awesome. So what we should be asking Brett isn't how to fight Brett. It's how do we chip in so Brett has enough funds for him to basically go to the market for us? [1:33:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, Brett. [1:33:10] Bread @_ToastMalone: Coming soon. Right? It might be called, like, sock markets or something. I don't know. We'll see. [1:33:18] Shaksi @shaksi: Yeah. With only five people. Come on. We need more... There's more of us on this stage. [1:33:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. How how could... Ben, how could we do that? Right? Like, if we do create a successful trading strategy and we wanna... Like, let's say it's not... You know, but but let's say it is something that is maybe a little more capital intensive, but, like, let's say I didn't have the money, but I wanna, like, maybe, like, get a get a little consortium, a little little little cabal going. How... Like, is it possible for me to do that, like, within here? Like, how how would that work? I guess we just have to figure out, like, the the money on the on the outside. Yeah. Like, where where it would stay? Yeah. [1:33:50] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. Oh, I think in the first iteration that we built, there was actually the social trading layer where users could create vaults and other people could deposit, and then the the lead trader just manages it all. But I think that's a very, like, last cycle crypto idea. There's other models as well. Like, we were talking about the skills. You could have a subscription so that the skill... The contents are not really, like, open source, but if you pay to it, it will have an API that you can get the signals from. So you would be able to automate based on bread's amazing, no alpha on the weather each day. But I think there's a there's a deeper use of AI where there are shared networks where people are accessing the same data. And imagine, like, my agent and Brad's agent and Dave's agent, they're all in this sort of agent community together where we have really premium data access. I mean, it's sort of subsidized that cost across all of us. I mean, we've researched from, like, the high, like, bespoke research subscriptions that we subsidized. In an age of just talking to each other, and they're they're doing the strategies. I think this is probably the more science fiction to outcome that technology will bring it to. It's it's kind of exciting. I think people can just be sitting at home watching TV what might hurricane to, you know, the whole set of shit. Yeah. [1:35:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Then you're rugged a little bit at the end, but I'm... I I pretty much got everything that you were saying. Yeah. This this is really cool. Brett, be careful, bro. I'm telling you right now. I got my I got my arbitrage thing running right now. This bracket arb, I don't... It doesn't require any forecasting. Alright, bro? Like, I'm just gonna arb. [1:35:45] Bread @_ToastMalone: Right. Yeah. But you're still manually clicking buttons over there, aren't you? [1:35:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Not right now. I'm just setting the strategy up, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like [1:35:51] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Did you not hear Brad? Like, he's got four agents running his Mac. [1:35:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's got [1:35:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: a Raspberry Pi. [1:35:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fine. Bro, you you need to know your levels, bro. Listen. Listen. Listen. Yo. [1:36:01] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo. Hey. It's a side note. Yo. I saw a crazy, crazy strategy earlier today that somebody is running, and they're essentially running a Polygon node and sandwich attacking people as they take positions with size, right, and front running their positions and just profiting off the slippage. [1:36:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's wild. I mean, shout out Jared from Subway's back. Who knew that he was gonna be sick? Oh my god. This is gonna be the second coming of Jared from Subway? [1:36:28] Bread @_ToastMalone: Shit. I hope so, bro. I'm gonna... I mean [1:36:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, he was making 500 ETH a day. You remember that? Bro, that was crazy. [1:36:33] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Bro... Yeah. But he was also spending a million dollars a day in ETH on gas for priority to actually get in those Sanders attacks. You know? I mean, he profit [1:36:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: back though he's out? Wasn't he in prison? [1:36:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, who knows? Oh, probably. [1:36:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: Hopefully. Shit. Hope... Might have been [1:36:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: the real Jared from somewhere unrelated to [1:36:51] Bread @_ToastMalone: I think [1:36:51] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: that was Martha's second. [1:36:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? [1:36:56] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: What? Never mind. Keep going, guys. [1:37:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Everyone got thrown off by Jared from Subway. Now I was like, isn't he in prison? That's the other Jared from Subway. [1:37:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's the real Jared from Subway. Yeah. He's he's a creep. [1:37:08] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: What what did he do? [1:37:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's not the crypto jerk himself. [1:37:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: He he was a diddler. He was a [1:37:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ben, don't take us down that road. No. No. No. We're not going. No. No. No. Okay. So wait. What what what happens now? So what to do? Bookmark this for May. Atlantic hurricane season ramps up. Polymarket historically opens preseason storm markets then. Set a reminder for April. Want me to schedule a weekly alert that pings you when weather markets appear on Polymarket? That way you're not checking manually. You just have to get notified. Yes. That's exactly what I want. Like, definitely notify me. Thank you, Star Child. This is cool. I feel like this would be great in, like, a live setting where people can see what I'm doing, and then you could also kinda get, like, live feedback where people like, oh, what if you did this? And, oh, what if you did that? You know? Like, oh, like... Or, like, if somebody's local to, like, hurricanes, and they're just like, dude, trust me. I've been living in hurricanes my whole life. Like, I know that when hurricanes come, it's this, this, this, this. You know? Oh, that's [1:38:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: that's me. I went through five hurricanes when I was a kid when we were living in Saint Martin. [1:38:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. I also went through a hurricane. It's called marriage in Saint Martin. But, anyways [1:38:11] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, so we got weather quants now, bro. Let's go. [1:38:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Weather quants. I like that. I've never... I feel like that makes me sound important. Weather quant. You know? Hell, yes. Starchild gives me superpowers. [1:38:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: You are important, and I'm loving this conversation with Ben. I love that he is very open minded, and and he's thinking down the line versus just today and just right now. He's thinking the bigger picture, and I think that's huge. [1:38:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. It looks like we have our first right now to let London's high temp... Highest temperature, 18 Celsius on March 5. There's 38 k in liquidity. Both are resolving tonight, but this confirmed scanner is worked. [1:38:48] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: That's not happening, bro. [1:38:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? Shut... What what... Exactly. That's the point, bro. That's what I'm trying to find out here, where the opportunity lies. Fred's got me down this weather prediction freaking rabbit hole, bro. This is crazy. So now, Ben, because my wallet is connected to Starchild, if I wanna make a bet, let's say, Poly... Like, if I wanna bet one... If I wanna implement one of these strategies, it literally just deducts the funds from... Because I connected my my my Phantom wallet, but I don't have any anything on Polygon. I don't have any USDC or USDCE on on Polygon there. How does that work? [1:39:21] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: No. That has the... So the agent wallet is on EVM. It has 28 networks. So if you tell your agent, go place these trades, it will just connect to PolyMarket with that one. But then you'll have to... It'll give you an address you have to deposit, funds into. [1:39:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. Cool. [1:39:41] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. So so your Solana wallet, your Phantom wallet created the account, and the private key of your Phantom wallet is used to authorize, what what are called policies. So if you want your agent wallet to trade on Polymarket, it'll create a policy within Star Child, that you have to confirm, and it signs it with your Phantom wallet private key saying, yes. This is Dave. I really wanted to do this. I don't want my agent to go lose all my money. So this is, like, one of the key security features that we were mentioning earlier. [1:40:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Alright. That's really cool. That's really cool. Okay. Cool. Yeah. And and I think people just need to start talking to these things. Right? Like, let's just start talking. Bro, I have so many different ideas that we could just be like, By the way, did we ever figure out the whole SEC, like, API thing or no? Like, is that gonna be something that you guys can implement at some point the future so that we can maybe implement this whole form for a, kind of trading strategy? [1:40:33] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. We should. I haven't looked at it today, but, yeah, we should definitely be trying to build some strategy like that. [1:40:40] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Cool. [1:40:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Because I bought it, [1:40:42] Bread @_ToastMalone: I got it hooked up and running if you need help. Let's go. Love that. [1:40:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think that... Yeah. I I I love that idea. I think that's gonna be... That's going to help give traders or investors an edge too. Right? Because even if you're investing in equities for the long term, in part of doing your research on the equity side or on the Shopify side is, you know, figuring out who's buying, who's selling, where the money is moving. And a lot of times, these things, they show up in the form four. Right? So instead of having to dig through these files and go in ticker by ticker, having an agent that said... That that will ping you and say, hey. This... Or, like, would tell us where is the majority of the money moving. Right? So, like, two years ago, a lot of the money that... A lot of money was moving into the AI into the AI sector, and we saw those go absolutely crazy. Right? And then last year, we saw a lot of the money move into the commodity section, oil, gold, and silver, and that has gone crazy. Right? So I think having an AI agent that can tell us where the majority of the buys are happening, I feel like that, And we position ourselves accordingly. I feel like we can do some damage there. [1:41:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Even the sells too. Right? Not like like Even the sells too. Was the bearish one. Right? Like, whatever insiders are selling, it didn't come back with real data. It it just populated with mock data, obviously, because didn't have, like, the, like, the the real data feed. But it came back being like, this is what it would look like, and it came back with, like, a whole scenario. And it was like, oh, like, three guys in the c suite at Garmin were literally selling at the end of February. Right? It's, like, March 2 now. You're just like, oh, shit. Like, what the hell? Like like... And it's like, where's the price for this? Right? And it shows you, like, fifty two week highs, $2.60 and change. Stock is trading at $2.56. Right? It's just like, those are probably, like, perfect setups for shorts. You know what I mean? [1:42:28] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: So You [1:42:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: ain't no money like short money. [1:42:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ain't no money like short money, baby. You're right. You are right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is cool. Yeah. Ben, I'm definitely gonna keep, like, playing around with this guys. I put the I put the link below. I also pinned it up to the top in the Jumbotron. Get started. Like, start playing around with it. Come in here. Let us know what you're doing. Hit me in the DMs. The whole basis for this is, like, I wanna start working with Ben so that we can start creating some really cool content. And that starts with, obviously, creating some strategies, but also documenting the journey too. Right? It's not so much like, hey. Like, what cool strategy are you running? It's just like, how are you also getting started? So I think a lot of people can kinda get on this journey and really understand, like, what exactly Starchild is and kind of the opportunity that it presents. So I think it would be really, really cool. So would would definitely urge you guys to kinda, like, just just give this a look and see what's what. Ben, anything else before, before we log off? [1:43:17] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Yeah. No. No. I would just, not even limiting our child. Like, I never come on here trying to... [1:43:25] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: And if you're using Open Call or you're using some other product competing, like, love sharing the ideas. And I'd love to connect and hear what people are building in a space, what people need. But, yeah, definitely enjoyed hanging out with all of you guys at this early hour for me. It's like listening to a talk radio show back in the back in the day. Right? Good people. Good vibes. I like what you're doing here. [1:43:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Appreciate it, man. Thank you. And, also, the Jackal came up. Hey, Coma. Sorry. We were just deep in conversation, but just wanted to say what's up before we go. You good? [1:44:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Coma Coma is the degenerate of all the degenerates. [1:44:05] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: I lost [1:44:06] Voice M: I lost, I lost my voice, basically, while listening to all this. But, no, it was really good information. Yeah. Yeah. No. I think everything is pretty, I guess, how do we get started? Maybe, Dave, you wanna kinda give, like, a what what... Where do we need to go kinda thing just just to recap. [1:44:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, I pinned it up to the top. I am starchild.com. You literally get started there, connect the wallet, you buy a couple credits. And, obviously, if you guys want, I think Ben said he's been more than generous, like, with me. He'll... I'm sure he'll he'll hook a few people up if you want some some credits to get started just to kinda, like, start playing around and just get in there and just kinda see what this thing can do. Start talking to it, understand, like, what the capabilities are, like, what it's connected to, what what kinda, you know, skills you... Like, you can create, like, what kinda strategies you can create, just start ideating with it, I think, is kind of the... Like, kinda get lost in it. You know? But... Yeah. Sorry. And and and, Sage, did you... I I I know I I kinda I kinda muzzled you at the end over there a little bit, but anything else, Sage, that you wanted to ask or anything before we go? [1:45:08] Voice I: Oh, you already made me focus what I was [1:45:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Perfect. Thank god. Alright. [1:45:12] Ben Yorke (WOO👍) @BenYorke: Awesome. I'm telling you, Dave. [1:45:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What? That's it, Sage. We're we're closing out, Sage. That's it. You're good. That's it. Done and done. That's it. 07:15. It's dinner time, boy. Ben, thank you. Really appreciate you obviously stopping by, guys. That's the last episode of the week. Natalie, appreciate it. Brett, Naeem, thank you guys for the feedback. Shaxy vibes as always. Koma, thank you, and everybody, obviously, that was listening, man. We will see you all next week. Hope you guys have a great weekend. And don't forget tomorrow, got an s link space. We got some spaces this weekend that are coming up. So, yeah, stay tapped in. Stay tuned, and we'll, we'll see you guys later, man. Have a good one, guys. Peace.
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