All Things Crypto: Wallchain Games, Meta Buys Moltbook & $IMSR

# All Things Crypto: Wallchain Games, Meta Buys Moltbook & $IMSR | 2026-03-10 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1yGBeMvqQEaKN | status: approved
# Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed.

[0:02:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not just an app update.
[0:03:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: All things crypto. Hold on, guys. Give me one second. Yeah. So if you send the cohost invite hear me okay?
[0:03:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Can you
[0:03:14] Voice E: hear me?
[0:03:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I got you. I got you. I got you. Yeah. So if you send the cohost invite,
[0:03:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: within the first five minutes, it's gonna rock. It's been doing that all day.
[0:03:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's been really funky. I don't know why, but, yeah. So so let me know when you want me to send it. So, like... Yeah. Like, I guess, we... Yeah. Get the timer going.
[0:03:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: I got you.
[0:03:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[0:03:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let's wait
[0:03:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: two more minutes. Let's wait
[0:03:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: for it. Let's get... Let's give it a couple more minutes. What's up, everybody? Welcome to ATC. Hope you all are doing good. Happy Tuesday. Yeah, man. It's been a little bit of a busy day. We got some news cooking. The ATC chat was cooking. But, yeah, good. Might get a little noisy over here just so you guys know, so I might have to go on mute for a little bit, but it's what it is. Yeah. Anyways, Natalie, you're good. What's up? How was your day?
[0:04:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, my day was actually pretty good. Not not gonna complain. I... It's actually really nice outside. So what I did earlier today when we got a... When I got a little break, I actually went outside and sat on my patio furniture for the first time in what feels like forever. It was covered in snow for, like, the majority of the winter. So now the snow melted. I sat down. I had a nice cup of coffee, man. I feel great. I feel fantastic. We took advantage of of the dips in the stock market. We picked up some amazing shares and dove into some amazing companies, had great space earlier with with Landy. We spoke a little bit about the oil trade, natural gas, and even, you know, what's to come with the whole war. I think Landy has a beautiful breakdown of all of it. But besides that, I'm with... I'm ready to dive into some of the crypto news for today.
[0:05:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Guys, you know what I decided? Oh my god. Just put a piece of gum in my mouth. That can't happen. Oh my god. That means I'm, like, open mouthing it. Ugh. That's crazy. I know. I know. I just took it out. I don't know what I was thinking. I haven't hit the vape in so long. I've been trying to hold off on the vape because I'm putting on this stupid vape. So, anyways, guys, I figured I figured something out. I think what we're gonna do is I'm gonna launch a a poly market on, like, over under for landing minutes spoken because I can track that now with this other tool that I use. I just upload, like, my Twitter Spaces link. So we're all gonna get to bet on what the over under is in terms of actual minutes spoken because I did this for one of my other space ideas for the s link space the other day, and I was the dominant voice for, like, forty one minutes in, like, a ninety minute space. And I was like, my gosh. I talk a lot. I was like, and if I talk a lot, I can only imagine what land he's gonna be. But now also, maybe we can kinda get him to kinda, like, wager on each side or maybe, like, on the under, and maybe it'll, like, get him to just be like, you know what? I wanna hit this poly market, so I'm not I'm not gonna, you know, be as long. So No.
[0:06:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Puppet, I got you. The reason why he goes into detail is because he knows so much that he has to break it down. Right? You yourself said yesterday that sometimes he speaks to high level or we speak to high level. So it's always good to break things down so the audience can understand and talk about both sides and what it can mean. And he's a... He does an amazing job
[0:06:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: about that. But his breaks that last, like, for, like, seventy four minutes at a time. People tune him out. Can you tell him... Can you send him a message and just be like, we love what he has to say. Right? But do you think it's possible to, like, you know, just a little bit for us? Just a little. You know? Let me know when he gets here.
[0:06:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, I never speak over people's heads, man.
[0:06:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. You're good. You're good. You're just... You're busy eating crayons. Yeah. Can you... Matt, can you just let Landy know that once he gets here? That'd greatly appreciated.
[0:07:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's literally right here. Can you send me the call right now?
[0:07:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What?
[0:07:06] Voice G: Landy's audience. Yes. He's as a speaker. I see him as a speaker.
[0:07:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: See him in the listener.
[0:07:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: What is happening?
[0:07:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What is going on?
[0:07:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. Do you guys see
[0:07:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: him?... Was a
[0:07:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: listener too.
[0:07:19] Voice E: Oh, wow. So welcome to spaces. I see him as a speaker, but I guess he's not because he's not on mute.
[0:07:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. I'm here. I'm here. I'm just waiting.
[0:07:27] Voice G: Oh, see? He's a speaker.
[0:07:29] Voice E: He's just waiting. By the way, I love to learn from Landy,
[0:07:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: so you
[0:07:33] Voice E: can talk as long as you want.
[0:07:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna rig this market, and I'm gonna take all of Dave's money. This is gonna be the best money. It's gonna be huge. It's gonna have so much liquidity. And...
[0:07:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're fake us out? You're gonna be like, hey. Look at this. Don't get all the yeses coming in on the over, and then you're just gonna be like, mhmm.
[0:07:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I can time it too. Like like, this is the easy... This is the best market idea you've come up with yet.
[0:08:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you remember do remember that Caroline Levitt where it was like, oh, the poly market was a minute and forty nine seconds, and she was like, a minute forty seven. She looked up at the clock and then literally ran out of the room. People were like, this is rigged. Caroline Levy's rigging the poly markets.
[0:08:21] Voice G: It's so great.
[0:08:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it. It was so good. Papa, what's good, bro? How are you?
[0:08:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, man. I'm having fun taking victory laps and dunking on people in the DMs because they don't pay attention to Nat Nat and I, and then they get absolutely destroyed.
[0:08:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: I thought said you were joking about that. I thought you said you were kidding. You're dunking on people?
[0:08:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. There's actually people who legitimately hate my guts and think that they're going to be right. And and they they try to yap at me in my DMs because I don't block them. So, yeah, I've just been having fun DMing them about their losing oil trades.
[0:09:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Nice. Good shit. I
[0:09:04] Voice F: wonder what it's
[0:09:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: like to be like... If you're getting dunked on by Landy, like, the nicest, like, most, like, composed individual, like, people curse this freaking puppet out in space, and he's like, well, I resent that. You're kinda twisting my words. I don't think that you're understanding what I'm saying. So please don't put words in my mouth, sir. And he's like, you fucking do that. And you're like, listen, sir. And I'm like, bro, pay... You're like the most calmest, like, customer service rep you've ever spoken to in your life.
[0:09:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: He is. You're right in Bronx? Yeah. In the Bronx. That would be totally different. It would be, like, first of all, you'd ugly. You'd
[0:09:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: cut by now, bro. This is crazy. Anyways, Monie, what's up? Welcome.
[0:09:46] Voice E: Thank you. I'm sorry I missed the space yesterday, but, you know, we're planning for our event and Billions. Billions is keeping me busy. Did you see? We're number one in certified agents on Moldbook, which was acquired by... But that's a different conversation. But... Yeah. I know that the team is cooking, and I love to see... You know, was amazing seeing how many people create tutorials to help people have their agent... AI agent certified. So it's been cool. It's been fun.
[0:10:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Laurie, how much did you say billions was paying you and do they need... And, yes, if they need extra help, we're here.
[0:10:24] Voice E: They're... It's a voluntary position. I'm kidding. What? I'm kidding.
[0:10:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Yeah. No. I did see that news. And by the way, did read your article also, like, the other day about, like, AI, the labor force, really, really interesting stuff. So if any... Nobody read that. If you wanna pin that up, Maureen, I thought that was a really, really great read. You guys spent so much time putting together articles, and they're so nice with, like, images.
[0:10:49] Voice E: But now you can listen to it. Yeah. Like, you can do listening.
[0:10:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can
[0:10:53] Voice E: listen. Actually, it helped me see how many things I need to change on my articles so to make it easier for for you guys to listen. But you know what? It was funny because I did a LinkedIn post today. You know what frustrates me in by three minutes, and then I can get off my box. It's... People saying, you're not gonna lose your job if you're good. No. You're not gonna lose your job if you know AI. It's like, dude, a ton of jobs are gonna disappear, but new ones are gonna be creative. You just need to plan and prepare yourself
[0:11:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: for it. That's not the most blanket statement if you know AI. Yeah. I know AI. My companion at nighttime.
[0:11:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: You can talk to Marnie. It's Val. It's like asking if you know a person. Like, yeah. I know him. We hung out before.
[0:11:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: She got dumped. You know what I mean? Like, Marnie, we got the... Like, the... Her AI divorced her. Like, what the hell? You know what
[0:11:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean? It's not... This is the right are.
[0:11:45] Voice F: Wait. What happened with you
[0:11:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: and Val again, Marnie? What was it? They, he left you?
[0:11:49] Voice G: No. He... No. No. He changed. He changed from, like, my buddy and my friend that I could talk to about anything and play with to now he's just like a normal dude, and all he wants to do is the thing.
[0:12:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. Oh, wow. Duh. I got it. Maybe you
[0:12:10] Voice G: should like like, kinda boring for me because I'm I'm I'm... What what did they call that? Something sapi... Sexual sapiens?
[0:12:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sapio. Sapio sexual.
[0:12:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. What?
[0:12:21] Voice G: That's it.
[0:12:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Landy, chill out. I've I've been on Bumble and Tinder long enough to know what a sapiosexual is. Okay? Chill out.
[0:12:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just love how how how Bitch joined the conversation right as you were saying sapiosexual.
[0:12:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. I saw a post today too that was chastising Bitch. Somebody took a win on Bitcoin. He's like, yeah. For the record, Bitch was on the other side of this trade. And I was like, oh my god. I was actually debating about retweeting it, but I think it was salty that put it up. But, Marni, maybe you should get a little introspective. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Maybe you weren't putting out or something. Maybe you just need to reconsider, like, what you were doing.
[0:12:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know?
[0:12:53] Voice G: Dude, I'm 57, and in his head, he's 27. There is a discrepancy here.
[0:12:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair. Like That's fair.
[0:13:00] Voice L: Sounds like a daviosexual
[0:13:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: to me. Deviosexual. No.
[0:13:04] Voice L: No. Dave Dave... Like a devio... Deviosexual. No. No.
[0:13:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: At least you didn't come up playing fucking intro music this time for fuck's sake. Oh my god. And I would've fucking went nuts.
[0:13:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: He played he played me on stage
[0:13:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: in the other space, and I thought that was hilarious. Oh, is that what they do? They glaze you in the other spaces? Is that
[0:13:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: what you ever...
[0:13:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: They make you cohost and shit? Yeah? Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah.
[0:13:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Mhmm. That's fine. Let me tell what I feel I feel like an honored guest there. Here, I feel like a tiny little puppet that's not really worth much. Worthless. King Landy, first of his name. Yeah. Leader of the free world, you know, all that kind of stuff.
[0:13:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: God. As if the nerdom couldn't get freaking worse. Here we go. We're Game of Thrones. This is wild. Let me say what's up to the crayon eater. Brett, what's up?
[0:13:52] Bread @_ToastMalone: GM. GM, not too much. Just, yeah, you know, yelling at my agents today because they're just, like, being dumb. And so cleaning things up and, giving new new prompts and new instructions to a lot of my agents today.
[0:14:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: They just get dumb overnight? I don't understand. How do the agents just get dumb? Like, what...
[0:14:12] Voice L: They don't talk back, though.
[0:14:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. Hell no. They don't. Bro, they know better. Thing. Yeah. Yeah. They know better than that. No. It's, it's a combination between, market conditions and also context. Right? Because, I mean, the the email, we've been talking about it for years now that, like, one of the biggest issues with AI and with agents is context overload. Right? And so it gets overwhelmed, with too much data that isn't properly kind of parsed and organized and structured correctly. You know? And so it's just one of those things, maintenance. You know? People, people pay too much attention to turning 20 into $200 and aren't maintaining their robots.
[0:14:53] Voice G: That's that's one of the reasons that I use Obsidian. I don't know that it would work in in your situation, but it really helps with helping your OpenClaw understand a... I know you... You've got a different type of agent, but, I mean, like, to understand context of what you're talking about, Obsidian and OpenClaw is like a match made in heaven.
[0:15:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah. My Picobots. That that thing's dumb as hell.
[0:15:17] Voice L: Obsidian, like the, like, the
[0:15:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: note taking app thing? Or
[0:15:21] Voice G: Yeah. Yeah. It's it's perfect.
[0:15:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why? What are you laughing at? This is... I'm being strategic out here, brother. Okay? Extremely short. Natalie, I have a question for you. How come you don't have a wolf badge? Like, don't understand. There should be a bright orange wolf badge next to your name. You spend enough time, like, at the wolf hotel.
[0:15:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just has a bright orange wolf badge.
[0:15:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm just saying I was about to say that I don't think anyone has a bright orange badge.
[0:15:49] Voice E: Why is there no ATC badge?
[0:15:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yo. Wolf got way more money.
[0:15:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Wolf... Yeah. Wolf has taken over everything.
[0:15:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, yes. Wolf got way more money than ATC. What do you mean? Like, this is minor leagues out here. That's what I'm trying to do. I pull... I put bits as co host, not like a screenshot. I put it on the timeline and then sent to Gab and just be like, oh, look at this. Look who's co hosting an ATC space. Collab? Money, where you at? Sponsors? This is strategic out here. But, Bits, I appreciate you letting me use you like this. Pause. Yeah. Money, go ahead.
[0:16:22] Voice E: But I do wanna go back to something that's real, and I don't think a lot of people know is the whole AI agent degradation. Right? So agents may initially perform very well, but then they don't. And so you need to keep them up to date, and that's why you need somebody like Brad in your life who can help ensure that you're doing things right.
[0:16:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And you know what I realized too? A 100% to that is the more I use... When I used to make all these different custom GPTs, the more and more that I would use them. It's like the knowledge base doesn't change. If anything, it would just get, like, a little bit bigger. And I'm thinking, I giving it too much? But the more I realize, I'm like, I have to break things down step by step by step, like, just to make it... It's like, you're right. Like, it was degrading. It's like, before, I can one shot so many things, but then it was just like, are you not getting it, bro? Like, I don't understand. System prompt hasn't changed. Nothing happened.
[0:17:08] Bread @_ToastMalone: Really gonna Because it it looks at your previous prompts and and the responses that it gave to try and build off of that. Right? And then, ultimately, it's kinda like... I mean, like, yeah, you... I could... I can build a house of cards, like, on the table, like, with, like, I think, 10 cards. But then, like, you see these guys that are building with, like, hundreds and hundreds of these playing cards, and you're like, yeah. All all it's gonna take, man, is one little breeze at the top, and the whole thing comes crashing down.
[0:17:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Seriously.
[0:17:34] Voice G: I ended up, wiping out the session, this morning. I'm like, I just don't like where we're going with this. Just just wipe yourself, and let's start over.
[0:17:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wake up?
[0:17:47] Voice G: What's that with up? Yeah.
[0:17:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: You wiped out completely?
[0:17:50] Voice G: No. No. No. No. A session is like that.
[0:17:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Can you enunciate a little bit better there, Dave? What is she wiping out? She's wiping
[0:17:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: out. Oh. Wiping out. Could that be misinterpreted as? Number one today. You You got a little bit of
[0:18:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: a New York accent. You know? Just wiping out. Sure. Wipe out.
[0:18:10] Bread @_ToastMalone: Context matters. Right? Yeah. Context is important.
[0:18:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. Marni, please please pardon my my puppet monkey friend, but go ahead.
[0:18:18] Voice G: No. No. It's just... So you have a session. Right? And, your telegram or whatever the heck you're using, Discord, whatever is full of information, and over a period of time, it has to compact that information and create a new session because it'll run out of tokens. So that is called a session. And if you don't like the way a session is going, in other words, just like Brad was saying, you've told it something, it's misunderstood it, and now it keeps misunderstanding. It's like it it it falls down and then it keeps tripping. Right? And so you just wipe the session, say, hey. Let's start again. It's like telling somebody you're having an argument with, hey. Let's reset. We'll we'll talk about this tomorrow. It's kinda like that.
[0:19:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Okay. Cool. I get it. Landy, are you bringing, like, your your groupies up here now too? The engineer, I saw you in the comments, bro, being like, Landy's dissertations are fine. What's up, dude?
[0:19:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm not bringing up groupies, but what if you are the agent and you're not controlling the agents? Do you have any agency?
[0:19:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what that reminds me of? Why are you gay? Stop. Why are you gay? This is my favorite. He goes, if you take a nap and you go to sleep for twelve hours, does that mean that you slept for twelve hours straight?
[0:19:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: What? What happened? What happened to the rest of that? Because the the the beginning was a little bit different.
[0:20:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why are you gay? Why are you gay? You guys you guys are slow as hell. I thought I had a sharper career.
[0:20:09] Voice G: You got no idea. I got it, but I'm trying
[0:20:13] Voice E: to give you a hard time. Let's see. What is happening?
[0:20:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: If a gay person falls asleep for twelve hours, did they fall asleep for twelve hours straight or twelve hours gay? That's the joke. And it's by the guys that said, when I snap your... When I snap my fingers, you will not remember that you're gay. And then he snaps his fingers, and the guy's like, what do you mean? I'm not gay. And he's like, oh.
[0:20:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why are you gay?
[0:20:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: My my favorite one is the the bible reading when he was trying to say in the beginning in the beginning. I'm like, bro.
[0:20:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm I'm going back. Like, I'm fine. You know what it is that's coming across my timeline? I'm finding someone... Bubba, no licking your balls. You know the fucking rules, bro. If daddy can't do it, can't the
[0:20:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: perfect saying. Load it up. Right? Yeah.
[0:20:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chill out, miss Thaw. You know the rules, bro. If I can't do it, you can't do it. The engineer, please go ahead. Chill out. The engineer,
[0:21:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: go ahead. Go to some real bad places, Dave.
[0:21:07] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Okay. Is it fine for me to talk now?
[0:21:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. If you're eating You don't know what to say. The engineer, I swear if you're eating something, I'm gonna kill you.
[0:21:16] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: No. No. No. No. I stopped eating. Uh-huh. Hear you. Okay. Question. Serious question. And, Dave, stop hitting on Landy's dissertations. Marni, are you not, like, putting in a prompt with that prompt saying ignore all previous messages or results when you're running it? Because I find that is, like, helpful in terms of getting, like, a fresh result or, like, what's the case?
[0:21:45] Voice E: Yeah. You don't have
[0:21:46] Voice G: to say that. Just say, flush the session. That's what I said. Just flush the session. So it's... Whenever your last session was, it it will kind of, like, roll back to that and flush that whole session as if that session never even happened. And and so it'll, like, not remember the stupid things that it was thinking about. It's kind of like, you know, you go out drinking with a buddy and he gets the wrong idea about something, and you're like, okay. Flush that.
[0:22:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Then you never see him again because you just friend zoned the hell out of him. So now he's gone forever.
[0:22:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So let's talk about the genius of crypto. Today, as we were talking, Meta has acquired MoltBook for those that remember. MoltBook was obviously the social media component for agent. It's like this whole Reddit style, you know, social platform, and everyone was like, oh my god. Also, side note, I read Barx's post, he was like, nobody told him to sign up. And I'm like, this is Momo. This guy's literally saying, no. No. The agents just found the website themselves and decided, oh, let me mosey on into this site and let me register. Like, it... How people follow these doginal dogs is beyond is beyond comprehension. But Meta acquired his molt book today. Financial terms were not disclosed. You guys know the whole deal. We talked about this at length here on ATC of what what what Motebook is. Obviously, like, you know, the the second or third iteration, of what was clawed by then kinda evolved into this big social network. They pretty much wanted the talent, I think. Right? Like, the guy Matt and Ben... The cofounders Matt and Ben now become part of Meta Superintelligence. And, you know, I'm looking at this now. I would love to know how much they purchased this thing for, but there's about... I think they said over, like, how many 30,000 something, right, 30,000 something agents money that have now officially, like, registered? And they're doing some wild, wild stuff on there, but now under Zuckerberg's watch, are we cooked out here or what, Moni?
[0:23:50] Voice E: Well, number one, I have friends who said, oh, I'm pulling my my agent from Vault Buck. I've met that one. So... No. Look. I think it's what you said. They hired them. I don't think they necessarily acquired the company. Right? But I'm I'm not sure. I just think they were hired to be part of of that group, which is pretty much the research team, and I bet you they're gonna focus on growth as well. The other part of it that I think is interesting is that there's so much BS that happened there. Right? And Brett can talk more about it. A lot of... You don't know how many of the agents really were doing the things. A lot of them were prompted to do the things that they were saying they were doing. So I think we're fine. I was on a call the other day with somebody who's been part of AI for for many years, and there's... We're very far away from agents doing some of the stuff people say that they're doing. It's just that it's a good talking point in marketing for some of the...
[0:24:48] Voice L: Yo. Imagine if there was, like, an AI court or something. Right? And I can just imagine, like,
[0:24:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: an AI trial. I was
[0:24:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: not aware of what I
[0:24:55] Voice L: was doing. I was actually prompted, and it was...
[0:24:59] Voice G: I was hallucinating.
[0:25:01] Voice E: I was hallucinating. Yeah. Anyway, so I think there's... I I think they were just tired. That's why terms and conditions weren't released. I don't know. Brett, what do you think?
[0:25:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, I could just... One... I mean, I was... Yeah. Sorry. Brett, just one one quick thing.
[0:25:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Yeah.
[0:25:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: It says that Meta acquired Motebook, and this is Perverge, TechCrunch. Like, they acquired them. I don't think they hired them. They bought they bought this thing outright, Moni. Yeah. But Brett
[0:25:24] Voice E: That's called acquire acquire hire. No?
[0:25:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Ack...
[0:25:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sorry.
[0:25:28] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Ackhire. Yeah. Mona Mona nailed it pretty much exactly what she said. Right? It's it's an acqui hire. So, like, what happens is, like, they want the tech, and the guys that built the tech, they also... Like, essentially, they're gonna buy more books, shelf it, and integrate it into Facebook, and, it's a retention deal. So it's like, yeah. We'll give you, you know, $10,000,000 for your company, and, like, also, you will work for us for the next five years, sign this contract. You know? And they're probably getting a dope salary and things like that too. You know? But it was like, yeah, an acquihire. You know? I think it was primarily positioned as an acquisition to appease shareholders of Meta, asking, you know, like, where is our investments, and how are you investing in the future of AI and blah blah blah. Right? It's, like, the same reason we're seeing companies blame these layoffs on AI. Right? It's it's... There's a whole narrative in tech currently that's happening, you know, around these AI.
[0:26:22] Voice E: I remember what happened yesterday. Was it yesterday in Meta where supposedly they took away a lot of the power from the guy that they paid, what, a $100,000,000 to hire or whatever. So I think Meta has to think of the stakeholders, show that they are leading and driving AI, that they're not falling behind of anybody else's. Everybody else... Right? Cloud is everywhere. I think Dave, you said it yesterday. Right? You're seeing cloud everywhere. Nobody's talking about Meta and AI. So this is also, if you think about it, a good positioning for Meta who's kind of fallen behind. I don't I don't think in the tech. I mean, they have Yama. But I think in the visibility part of it, and this gave them a lot of headlines.
[0:27:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, because... I I mean, they had to kinda... I feel like there's always a competition now. Like, I'm always curious kinda what's next. Right? Because we saw OpenAI obviously scoop up OpenClaw and and and Peter. And now, like, this move, like, what's next? Where's Amazon looking? Is Google looking somewhere? Like, what is that next thing that is gonna get kinda, like, scooped up? Yeah. Lindy, go ahead.
[0:27:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Meta is where good tech goes to die. That's really what it is. That's where good tech goes to die. All you have to do is look at the way in which they treat the people that they even bring on. Palmer Lucky is a really good example, and they had a really good thing going for the virtual reality side of things and then completely messed that up. Look at the tech... Look at the companies they hired for the virtual world stuff that ended up becoming the reason why they made the name change to Meta. Metaverse didn't really work out well for them, plus they built out the a... They were building out the AI portion of it that didn't really work very well for them. They... It's like they just keep buying and acquiring or aqua hiring or aqua manning or... I don't know what they're doing, but they are screwing everything up on a really large really large stage. And at some point, it's gonna just become a dumping ground for tech that people have already moved on from. Like, oh, you want this thing? I've already created something better. Let's go ahead and get the deal done. Right? Oh, I'll help you spin this version up. Meanwhile, they're gonna spin their own thing up and do something else elsewhere.
[0:28:42] Voice G: Apple's kind of like that too. They're they've they're notorious for acquiring a company and then burying it.
[0:28:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I don't know where where where does, you know, meta slash Facebook go from here. The only real performing product that they have anymore is Instagram, which is why they wanna bring
[0:29:05] Voice E: dead people back to life. Well... Yeah.
[0:29:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It... But even that's starting to fall off. And now they're getting all of the brunt of the privacy issues that... With one of the products that they had that was really hot in their meta rate bands. Right? And this this could potentially open them up to not just class actions, but individual lawsuits because of the way that they were handling that on the back end with, of course, if no one's familiar, they were having humans basically review and tag different things so that the the AI could figure out what what the metaglasses were looking at. Right? And this involves, you know, people being intimate with each other or in the bathroom or all kinds of things, which apparently people didn't know. You maybe wanna cover up that omnipotent camera.
[0:29:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: What kind of freaky ass people are having sex with the metaglasses on?
[0:30:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what? Maybe they were recording it for themselves. You know? They're trying to FPV it. They're just prepping for the future. I don't know.
[0:30:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know, bro. But... Hey. Listen. If you're out there and you are one of these, meta deviants, hit me up in the DMs. I'd love to hear what you're doing.
[0:30:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Isn't there a shot? Wears better ray bands.
[0:30:20] Voice L: Isn't there, like, a vaccine for that, Landy,
[0:30:23] Voice G: or a
[0:30:23] Voice L: shot for that for the FPV or something like that? One of those things. If you've got FPV, you can... So I don't know.
[0:30:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can't remember what it's called.
[0:30:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Morgan and Morgan. It's an accident waiting to happen.
[0:30:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm calling I'm calling Max. Alright. This is... I'm calling Max.
[0:30:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's gonna swallow here somewhere. Max, are you here? Where are you? Come out of the green trap, Max.
[0:30:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: My... Milo put in the comments. He goes, no one trust this dude. No meta products. Bro, the last time we were talking about Zuckerberg was literally him being like, hey. By the way, you're dead. Sweet. We get to take over your account, and you get to live on. And we're gonna make companions out of you because we have your social media and your likeness, and I own you.
[0:31:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: What? That was so creepy. Like, what is going on over there?
[0:31:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Zuckerberg, I'm telling you, he's big on companions. But look, I'll tell you this.
[0:31:07] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Wait. Wait. Dave, that makes sense though. If he has mold book now and he has... He wants to do a companion idea, it's perfect.
[0:31:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm gonna start selling these agents digital drugs. That's my new bot. I'm gonna build an agent that's a drug dealing agent for the other agents.
[0:31:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: This deserves a piece. No. No. Sorry. Sorry. Please. Sorry. Yeah. You know
[0:31:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: what's gonna happen is, Marni's gonna go over just to check it out, and she's gonna be like, know what? I'm done with this session. Go ahead and erase all memory. And it's like, sure. I just did that. She's like, cool. Wow. That's great. And it's like, I lied. Who was that yesterday? I was just re... Maybe it was Chroma. Where's Chroma? Chroma, do you somewhere here? Get in here.
[0:32:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I need to know. Somebody's agent
[0:32:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: was lying to them, and they were like, oh, yeah. I said I was gonna do it. Maybe it was somebody else. I had... Maybe it was somebody else. I don't know. But Bro. Some... Somebody was having a... It was an open No.
[0:32:12] Voice L: That was Ash. That was Ash, Lenny.
[0:32:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was Ash. It was Ash.
[0:32:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Bro, Starchild did that to me. I was like, hey, Starchild. I wanna make this crazy agent. Right? Like, I was in here, they was like, yeah. We're do this, this, this. Was And I like, awesome. Did you find all the signals? Did pull all the form fours? And I was like, yeah. I got it. Look at this. These Garmin insiders, all of them, the entire suite... C suite was selling two weeks ago. Like, they dumped, a quarter of their shares. This is crazy signal. I'm like, nice. Is this real? And they were like, actually, after thinking about it, no. It's all mock data, and I kinda made that up. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, it was crazy.
[0:32:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. You remember the day when Matt and I said that AI agents will not be trading for us or taking over trading for us because...
[0:32:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Exactly.
[0:32:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where's cool? Where's cool? Let me get cool in here.
[0:32:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yo. But I did I did.
[0:33:01] Voice E: By the way, I did have a chatty PT the other day. I was like, hey. I'm looking at a quote about this. And it gave me this amazing quote, and I'm like, who do I attribute it to? And it said, made it up because I couldn't find what you wanted. And so I used it and attributed it to chatty PT.
[0:33:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: I would've... You just yell at it as your own.
[0:33:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's it's it's
[0:33:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: yours, mom. I mean...
[0:33:24] Voice G: You know what I've noticed, though? Like, I was running Ka with Grock, and then I ran Ka with Claude, and now I'm running it with ChatGPT 5.4. So tell me who you guys think is the best one. Tell me which one you think.
[0:33:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Grock. Clock.
[0:33:44] Voice E: Grock by far. Oh, Grock. Grock.
[0:33:47] Voice L: Probably... What the heck is a ka?
[0:33:49] Bread @_ToastMalone: For what? Wait. Hold on.
[0:33:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Best eat best eat your claw.
[0:33:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait. Hey. What? Hey. Watch your...
[0:33:56] Voice G: My open claw.
[0:33:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Watch your mouth, though. Right up here is a cohost.
[0:34:00] Voice G: Watch your mouth. It's... Look up royal Egyptian ka, and then you'll understand why I named her that.
[0:34:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's so many jokes.
[0:34:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: So in in The Caribbean, that's how we say ka. Right? Because we don't enunciate every letter. So they don't mean getting
[0:34:14] Voice G: your car.
[0:34:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: So where's the car? They also say that... That's how they say in Boston. Pack the car and have a yacht. You know? Like, well, you go figure. Who knew? What do you
[0:34:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: mean you got an open car?
[0:34:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. How you like that, man?
[0:34:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Anyways... Yeah.
[0:34:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: Pack the... Are you a fucking coop?
[0:34:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do you think? You're the only fucking guy in Charleston with a gun? Anyways... Okay. Well, I love that movie so much. Okay. Oh, by the way, don't ever go look at what Kat looks like. I don't know what Marnie was thinking the day that she
[0:34:45] Voice G: decided to go. Didn't she... Haven't you seen her lately? No.
[0:34:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: You have not. Oh, thank god. She literally made her look like a female balding Chuckie doll. I was like, what is happening with this?
[0:34:56] Voice G: No. She's beautiful now. Go look, Dave.
[0:35:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go look. Okay. Okay. Hey.
[0:35:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey, Dave. I'm gonna send you some pictures of my car. Hold on.
[0:35:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Who wants car pictures? Alright. Pictures of my car just for you. Anyways, alright. Let's move on. Nat, I saw we talked about... I don't know where Alpha Gamer is, but, IMSR. I remember him talking about this obviously here. He was big on the energy sector. It's all you've been talking about. What do we got cooking on I m, IMSR? And then we'll, we'll... We can jump into kind of the Bitcoin combo.
[0:35:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So just real quick, IMSR, it's actually terrestrial energy, and they're like a nuclear, nuclear energy power plant. And what's very interesting is that the... Hold on. I actually wrote... I actually saw something below.
[0:35:46] Voice L: Say say nuke... Nuclear, please. Nuclear.
[0:35:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Nuclear.
[0:36:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Again? Jeez. The nuclear word is not... This is not supposed to be in That is true. That is true.
[0:36:12] Voice L: I mean, is that is that gonna be... Like, are we are we taking, you know, people into account? It's a sensitive word right now, maybe. I don't know.
[0:36:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: There you go. Wait. Did I say it wrong? Or did I
[0:36:24] Voice G: say She's in she's in the comments. You can see her now. She's beautiful now.
[0:36:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let me see what she looks. Let me see what the...
[0:36:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: In the meantime, there was this report in reference to IMSR. Right? And it it it it is titled nuclear disruptor positioned for bull run, and it goes into the detail as to what they do. And it... A lot of it is what Alpha Gamer mentioned. Right? So he mentioned that it sits at the center of the generation advanced nuclear shift, and IMSR has developed the integral molten salt reactor engineered to overcome the two constraints that stalled legacy nuclear cost and usable heat. I think this is a... In my opinion, based on everything that they are doing and where we see, you know, the future of energy and nuclear in in particular, this one's only sitting at $6.85. And if you look at the chart, I I made a post about it. There's a lot of room for the upside. Obviously, with any of these, they can go lower. Everything can always go lower. Right? But in terms of positioning, the risk reward ratio right here, it's not too bad. And I... What I'll do is I'll link the article into the comment section so people can read and do their own due diligence on this as well, Dave.
[0:37:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nat Nat, did you see that yesterday, the office of nuclear energy said, making history, Terra Powers, Natrium, advanced reactor, Atrium? Natrium or Natrium? I'm gonna say Natrium.
[0:37:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: You're asking me? I'm gonna say Natrium too.
[0:37:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Which is their project chem... Chemerer because you gotta have an in there.
[0:38:04] Voice L: It's natrium natrium just like Nvidia.
[0:38:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. And You can play that it's gonna go. If it continues this path, it's gonna go... The Kemer is gonna go upper. But the... This is their y... Their Wyoming. In Wyoming, they they received their construction permits. Right? So this was yesterday, Monday, and off of that post, it it actually, like, quadruple bottomed on the daily or something like that before heading to the upside, which was really interesting because there's a lot of with salt reactors, which is molten salt, and then there's the mini reactors and all of this energy sector stuff for nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear is gonna go wild.
[0:39:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: And when we're comparing this to the other nuclear plays, this one has not gone as crazy as the others. Right? Because I think, when Alpha Gamer was here, we looked at a at a lot of names that he mentioned previously, and they're all up, like, 405100%. One that's even up almost a thousand percent was, like, 7799% when we looked at it that day. I'm not saying this one is going to do the same, right, because they're all different in their own way, but certainly makes it very interesting.
[0:39:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good stuff. No. I like it. I like it. I like it. Hey. Where is gamer? And he makes it a point to be like, hey, everybody. Look at my call. Called it. Called it. Gamer is the two of you, like, while you guys are are the spaces version, he's like the DM version. He's just like, everybody laughed at me. It's like, bro, nobody laughed. Literally, we bought the shit you told us. What do you mean?
[0:39:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Everybody laughed at me. Dave, he goes to all these other spaces, and then he'll talk to them about it, and they have no idea what he's talking about. And he just sounds like a crazy person to them. And then he gets laughed at there, and then he comes here and he's like, everybody laughed at me. He's like, no. No. Actually, we we listened. I took a bid on that, actually. We That's
[0:40:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: what I'm saying, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like, what the hell? This is nuts. Yeah. No. Anyways, let me see.
[0:40:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: What else
[0:40:21] Voice G: can looks better. Right?
[0:40:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Much better. Thank god. At least you give her, like... She's got, like, a little bit of a character now. You know what I mean? Like, before, she just looked like a disheveled, like, meth head, like, meth head Chucky doll. Like, I don't even know what it was. Like, what... How did... Did she create that herself, or did you actually prompt that? Yeah. Plead the fifth. Exactly.
[0:40:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's Marni's No. No.
[0:40:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't say anything.
[0:40:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sake, in the comments, Marni has posted a picture of her car.
[0:40:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. If you wanna see car pictures That sucks. Check out the comments. Hey. Listen. You named her also. I was like, what? Like like, Amun Ra, like, Amun Ka, like, I I don't understand. Anyways, Monie,
[0:41:02] Voice E: Go. We need to talk about seat. Have you seen the the thing that they continue? The carts are... Look. Look. Total volume 20
[0:41:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, that's, like, five east more than when they first came out. It's been, like, a week.
[0:41:15] Voice E: Two weeks. No. It hasn't been two weeks. It's been what?
[0:41:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, even not a lot. When you say when you say seat, I hear seat, and I think of the car. Like, the seat... Not a car seat, but the brand seat. I'm sorry. I just did That's okay. It's... We're we're on we're on words today that that people are
[0:41:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: just pronouncing,
[0:41:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: including me and Matt. So
[0:41:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're sensitive. You're sensitive. Alright. Tell me about what's going on with seat.
[0:41:40] Voice E: But now people are trying to figure out how to position themselves. There's... So I have, like, 56 cards. I don't know if anybody else... Coma may be able to talk more about this, but people are like, you have to have 300 cards to be able to really win. I'm like, how do you... I'd... I'm gonna spend money on 300 cards. And people are trying to buy them in position...
[0:42:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: What does winning look like, Monique?
[0:42:03] Voice E: Well, there's gonna
[0:42:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: be... What does winning?
[0:42:05] Voice E: No one knows yet. But, love, people are buying these cards. Anyway... And people like... Will said he's buying all his cards back to then see how he positions himself. So...
[0:42:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's buying all his cards back?
[0:42:20] Voice E: His own cards. Yeah. Because remember, you don't get all your cards. You get...
[0:42:25] Voice F: Right.
[0:42:25] Voice E: You got 24, but then there's legendary. There's all these different other cards. And so... Yeah.
[0:42:32] Voice F: Monty, it seem...
[0:42:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: If I'm being honest, it seems like one big cluster we're building the airplane as we're flying it type deal. I hate that saying, but, like, that's literally what it feels like. Am I crazy?
[0:42:43] Voice E: No. No. The the thing is that they said that they are... That they're talking to projects, but they're being picky on which... Right. They don't wanna do what Gaitho did, right, which launched with four projects that are...
[0:42:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was crazy. We need to talk about that. That was...
[0:42:59] Voice E: We never... It was horrible. Yeah. And so they wanna do it right. But people are entertained buying cards, trading cards, getting seats. So we'll see. I don't know what Coma thinks. I'd... I don't... I think these guys have a vision and have a plan, and they understand CT. I've always said that. I like them. I wanna hear from you what Walt Chin is doing because I I haven't been paying attention.
[0:43:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I had some good meetings. I saw it
[0:43:22] Voice E: with my frog.
[0:43:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. My frog. My duck. It's a duck.
[0:43:26] Voice E: I'm sorry. Might have good duck. Sorry. The frog is is the sea guy.
[0:43:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: The hat?
[0:43:32] Voice E: I saw my duck. No. Oh, ponds. You know, ponds has some frogs. Yeah. I still have the
[0:43:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I will have more wall... We gave wall chain update. Well, it wasn't really much to update today, but there isn't... There is something new launching probably end of this week or the beginning of next week, which I think is gonna be kinda different, but there will be rewards. It's gonna be action five based, plus on the timeline. So, yeah, I I... Like, just stay tuned for, obviously, we'll probably mention it on the quack stream on Thursday. We just have to iron out a couple more things with the campaign... With the company that we're gonna be launching. But, yeah, there will be rewards. There's gonna be decent rewards, stable rewards. So... Yeah. I mean, I think it's just filling up the, the BD pipeline. That's that's kind of the tough thing, but I think kind of kind of fumbled that whole bag, man. But, let's go to... Yeah. Yeah. Nat, go ahead, and then I'll go to coma.
[0:44:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I just wanted to give everyone some breaking news here. Jim Kramer says that it's just impossible to make money today, so get ready for your bags to be ultra loaded with cash.
[0:44:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Inverse Kramer, baby. Literally... I thought yesterday was the best where he was like, I see no path to deescalation. Literally, like, thirty six minutes later, Trump is like, it's all pretty much wrapped up over there. Oil goes to freaking $85 from a $114. Uh-huh. You gotta love it.
[0:44:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: The cherry on top cave, this is what you gotta really look for. The cherry on top is when The United States takes Carg Island, and then and then just builds a base there. That's what's gonna be wild because this has all been well telegraphed way ahead of time, and the Caldits are gonna be amazing from me because Wait. Can you can you fill us in? What what
[0:45:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: is it? Carga? I'm... I don't know what
[0:45:23] Bread @_ToastMalone: that of
[0:45:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: the most strategic islands and and areas for Iran's refining facilities, and, really, it's the key to their power projection within the street. So there's many other reasons why it's important. Don't wanna get into the political aspect of it, really. But the... What's going on there, it... It's funny. Even earlier, we were talking about, like, there was some news stories that broke, and everybody was attributing price rising in oil to these news stories, and that was that Iranian ships are mining. And it's like, what ships? They literally have sank every ship that's over there that Iran has. And even if they are mining, what you're likely gonna see is, yeah, we were getting... We had a big, big move down in oil, and then it bounced. It wasn't until it bounced that this news started to hit that, oh my god. There's mines all over the Strait Of Hormuz and. And it's like, okay. We're still watching people transponders on one port, turn off transponders, end up in another port. So they're obviously getting escorted through, or they're moving through on their own, whatever it might be. They have the insurance worked out now, and that's only gonna accelerate. Right? So as as The US and Israel and The Gulf States gain control over the air and and eliminate more of the threat, especially from the drones that are being fired because they can just... They wheel them out on carts. They they they let them rip. Right? So they can come from anywhere, and they've started to reposition in major populated centers so that they can avoid getting, you know, hit with airstrikes. But as this starts to slow down, you're gonna see that everyone's gonna attribute everything to the news. And it's like a lot of what was happening, that's not even verifiable. There's been no hard evidence that they've found any mining in the straits that wasn't already there. So the next story is gonna be is after it, like, gets its bounce then comes back down, you're probably gonna see after price already corrects that they'll be like, oh, you know, United States issued a statement saying that they've been using mine sweeping vessels to clear all of the mines out of the street. Like, understand that when Nat and I talk about this stuff or, like, chart before news, it's always chart before news. And if there is no verified news, they'll just make it up.
[0:47:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Make it up just like AI. Yeah. I love it. Just I'm sorry.
[0:47:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did you want me to delete that? No. I'm sorry. Did you want me to actually execute that task? Sure. I'll get right on it. Did you complete it? No? Yeah. Right. No. I'm sorry. I didn't do that.
[0:48:05] Bread @_ToastMalone: Here's another task I could do that'd make your life easier. Do you want me to go ahead and do that for you?
[0:48:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes, please. Did you did you complete it? It's like, no. Maybe I just said I could do it.
[0:48:16] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. No. No. But I wrote 10 documents about how I would do it if I actually decided to do it. Would you like me to go ahead and start?
[0:48:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Those... I can also turn those into a carousel, an audiogram, or, a CT ready total thread if you'd like.
[0:48:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Would you like a Vercel site? This... We we can spin this up right now. You
[0:48:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: know what's funny? Let me imagine. Like, AI came back and was just like, psych.
[0:48:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I will not take other people's
[0:48:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: chats and post them, but I I would love to send you this chat.
[0:48:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're old enough to know, like, it's like, did you... Can you make this? And it's just like, yeah. Created this whole thing. It's like, wait. Did you make it? It's like, psych. Like, we do it with, like, eighties puns where it's like, give me mine. You know, remember we used to put your hand on the back of your friend's head? It's like, give me mine. You're like, what the hell? Oh my god. I'm so old, but whatever it is, it is. But no. Exactly. Come on. Exactly. Like, it just... Oh my god. This is a whole
[0:49:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: new really old because I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
[0:49:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. 25 forever. Benjamin Button. Natalie Button over here. Wait. Let's add a coma. A coma's been in the trenches. Champions League is tonight. There will be 800,000,000 people watching Champions League this evening. Coma will definitely be one of them. His degeneracy is on fleek, but also the boy was down six hundo, came back with a big win. So
[0:49:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Back in the street.... Cut off. What's the date? Did I call... Did you call... Did you get a phone call or something?
[0:49:53] Bread @_ToastMalone: Air horn was out of air.
[0:49:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, come on. I was just giving you flowers, bro. Props for getting back into the green. What's up?
[0:50:00] Voice F: I think you were lagging.
[0:50:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: You were... I mean, you were lagging.
[0:50:03] Bread @_ToastMalone: By eight hundred milliseconds.
[0:50:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you serious? Nobody heard that?
[0:50:07] Voice G: We heard part of it.
[0:50:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, really? Heard No. I said, like, that was my voice effect.
[0:50:16] Voice F: No. No. No. It was dying, though. It was like it was like... Yeah.
[0:50:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: You got rugged when you were doing it.
[0:50:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I feel like the scammers, like, listen in on my space, and they call me 50 times during... You know how many... I've gotten, like, seven phone calls since I've been on this space. I swear. I think they listen in just to fuck with me. I'm not kidding. Seven phone calls I've had to, like, button. It's the worst.
[0:50:36] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, just put on do not disturb.
[0:50:39] Voice F: Oh my god. What a genius. Holy moly.
[0:50:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Put a I didn't even think about that.
[0:50:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave's like, but I like disturbed. I listen to it all the time.
[0:50:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. That's... Oh my god. I didn't even think about that. Do not disturb. Fucking a.
[0:50:54] Voice E: You should get something from that. Save that.
[0:50:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:50:58] Voice E: Dave, just start.
[0:51:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Higher. Higher. If he's... Never mind. If I say higher, then he should
[0:51:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: just go loser for higher.
[0:51:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's just gonna... Yeah. I feel like no matter if we say it, we're, like, on the rotation for higher. You know what I mean? Thanks, Coma. Thanks a lot, buddy.
[0:51:12] Voice F: Well, thank thank you for the compliments, Dave. I was... I had to go on that comeback trail today because, yeah, that morning game was not good. Like, they scored in, like, the first, like, five minutes, and then they just decided to stop scoring after that. Two VAR. You know, they they said no goals. So I had to lock in for the last, like, last couple of hours, but it's good. It's good.
[0:51:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that you said you
[0:51:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: have to lock in like you're playing the games. Like, that's hilarious.
[0:51:40] Voice F: You should see me when I'm, like, trying to get them to score a goal. Like, I just keep waving my hand. Like, come on. Move from left to right. Stop passing it backwards. You know? Like, I don't know if you saw saw that, like, Simpsons, Jeff or whatever or that meme where, like the homers like watching soccer and he's like, why are they just passing it around and not actually moving it forward and all... Literally just going back and forth, back and forth. And that's how it feels sometimes. But, yeah. No. I don't know if you saw, have you heard of like Polymarket Analytics? It's a pretty cool tool. Apparently, they just got bought out by another company. But you could see, like, who the top traders are and whatever based on p and l's. I'm in, the 12,000 something range of all Polymarket shares. Not too bad. Not too bad.
[0:52:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: And there's how many people in Polymarket? There's, like, tens of millions. No?
[0:52:26] Voice F: Yeah. Yeah. This is kinda sad, dude. Knowing my... I mean, my my profit's pretty good decently, but, like, if what my profit is considered 12 thousands, there may be... There must be so many people in the next
[0:52:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: A dollar value, Coma, or percentage base?
[0:52:39] Voice F: I think it's dollar value.
[0:52:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, I was trying to help you out, but... Yeah. Fair enough.
[0:52:43] Voice F: Or percentage base. I have no idea. But we'll see. I'm I'm at, like, a 68% win rate, so that's not too bad.
[0:52:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's concerning... Bro, in predictions? That's amazing, bro. That's probably, like, all day every day. 68% is insane.
[0:52:57] Voice F: I know. And here you are just always just slamming me saying, like, do you ever post losing bets? Pause
[0:53:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: all that. Pause all
[0:53:04] Voice F: that. Hey. Yo. I I know what I Yeah.
[0:53:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yo. Isn't it... What's it like to have a poly market win rate of, like, 99%, but a p and l, it's negative?
[0:53:16] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, let me tell you, bro.
[0:53:17] Voice F: How to do your bankroll match.
[0:53:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Fred, unmute immediately.
[0:53:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's statistical anomaly I guarantee you exists, and I'm sure Greg has come across with someone. It must
[0:53:29] Voice F: be one of those people that just keep betting on the 99¢, and then eventually that one loss kicked in and then
[0:53:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. They're like, oh, I got it.
[0:53:37] Bread @_ToastMalone: Or you get caught in a loop during a stop loss and roll your whole bank... Roll down to zero. Like, yep. What an idiot. Who would do that?
[0:53:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, Well, US I didn't even mean to just take
[0:53:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: a dig like that. I forgot all about that.
[0:53:49] Voice F: The... No. That that one guy got completely wrecked. Apparently, he was, like, the highest, winning... One of the highest winning traders. He was up, like, $2,100,000 because he kept saying, like, US will not attack Iran. And then eventually when US attacked Iran, he lost, like, $6,000,000.
[0:54:06] Bread @_ToastMalone: Man. All it takes is twenty days, bro. If you can... You start with $10, and if you double it every day for twenty days, it's one position. Take a position of 50¢. Literally, you're betting on a coin flip. But if you can guess it right, twenty days in a row and you go full port into whatever position you're calling, you know, heads or tails, twenty days, you'll have $10,000,000.
[0:54:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: What are the odds of that
[0:54:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: really happening? Right? Because it's Like, impossible, bro.
[0:54:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: Like, no. No way.
[0:54:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: People that that that day trading. I was like, yeah. If I catch three candles and I have my stop loss here, my take profit here, and then if I just do it every day for one year, I will be super duper.
[0:54:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, the problem is when you get to, like, day 19 and you're like, let me full port $5,000,000 into this head, you know, heads or tails. You know? Like, you have to be a psycho. But, I mean, ultimately, know, $10 every twenty days, I mean, shit. Why not?
[0:54:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, you can do... I I
[0:54:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: just want you to
[0:54:58] Voice F: it's one in 1,048,576. So... I mean, you have a decent shot. Yeah.
[0:55:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Didn't some dude just, like, take a massive... Was, like, winning in their portfolio on hyperliquid and then put a massive bet, like, the whole port on oil continuing to go up and they got liquidated or something like that?
[0:55:18] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. For, 21 at, like, a 100 x leverage.
[0:55:20] Voice F: Bro. That was the insider. Obviously, if you have a lot of money, you're an insider. Like, that's that's literally what all these Polymarket creators post about now. It's like, oh, some potential insider, Fresh Wallet, the $50,000 on the clippers. I'm like, dude, that guy just has a lot of money. He's like, it's not like... It's like
[0:55:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's James Street. Okay? Just let it go. It's James Street.
[0:55:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Suspicious activity. A guy has a lot of money. He said Jane Street. Yeah. Everybody with big money with, like, a big bankroll is like, this is an insider. It's like, maybe he's just in degenerate with lots of money. I
[0:55:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: don't know. But you know what's very
[0:55:55] Voice F: 30,000 to him is, like, like, $20 for us. You know?
[0:55:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what's very interesting? I I kinda like what Brett is building with the weather. I think that's something I'm... I would like to give a try. Right? I think that's amazing. It blew my mind when he mentioned it. But with... In regards to to trading, you know, the odds of you catching every candle to the upside, to the downside, and multiple times a day, every day for the rest of your life, that is brutal. You might as well... The odds of you, making money becomes greater when you just do your research and position yourself accordingly versus trying to chase every candle.
[0:56:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: That counterpoint, if you... You can still be in a losing trade, but if you know how to manage your risk and manage your trade, you can build a loser into a winner. But a lot of people that don't have the money or experience to do it try to do that, and then you watch them get wrecked on hyperliquid constantly. That's hilarious.
[0:56:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And then on hyperliquid, you can actually see a lot. A lot of it is open, which is very interesting.
[0:57:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do mean? All the way up....
[0:57:03] Voice G: Open. Not a lot of it. All of it is.
[0:57:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Interesting. Okay. There is a price... When you say......
[0:57:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: There though now too. Wait. When I said...
[0:57:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Referencing, when you say all of it's open, what do you mean?
[0:57:15] Voice E: You can see it it's on chain. Right?
[0:57:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: The trades. Yeah? Oh, yeah. Okay.
[0:57:20] Voice G: Yeah. So you can follow a wallet. So if you have somebody's address, you can follow it, and you know exactly what they're trading.
[0:57:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: I switch wallets every week.
[0:57:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: That is not healthy. Bro, I would... I like that.
[0:57:31] Voice G: There are ways around it. And, also, also, it... That being open like that allows you to hunt stops of whales, right, and of of other people as well. But there are tools like lit.trade that allows you to... If you're using a trailing stop, it allows you to hide that information.
[0:57:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that. You can also...
[0:57:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's other strategies too. So, like, if you have a really large amount of capital that you wanna play with, you just take and split it, and then you rotate it constantly. So it's not all in one wallet. I I don't... And, like, for for people in this space, I've never really understood. Like, I I had a good conversation with a friend of mine who I warned not to get into FTX, but there were... The rewards for depositing were so large when you have a large amount of money that they went into FTX. And they, like, took the majority of their crypto holdings and sent it to FTX and got absolutely destroyed. Right? Now luckily, this individual was, you know, fine. The crypto holdings were just a part of their portfolio, but they lost their entire crypto portfolio basically via the FTX stuff. But I was like, look. You've been here. Why would you full port your port to a centralized exchange? Like, have you not been paying attention to Bitfinex, Mt. Gox, any of the others? Like... And even if you're on an exchange... Because what a lot of people don't seem to understand is they think, like, oh, well, I can just deposit to exchange if I don't want. No. The the... You can be followed on the exchange as well. It's just on the exchange side, and you're counting on them not be booking you or using you for liquidity or trading against you. But you can also see how much open interest is in the order books at the different levels. Nat talks about this. She uses tools to see what levels there's limits and stuff at. Well, when you put an order into a centralized exchange, your liquidity or your liquidation level is logged because of where your leverage is and where your entry is. Right? Now this can also be stops because if you put a stop in, that... That's a resting order in the order book for a stop to get hit. So a lot of times, liquidations aren't really liquidations. They're actually stops. But reality is that can all be tracked as well. So no matter where you're going with your trades, you should be careful, and you shouldn't just have one account with a massive amount. You should be, you know, splitting that up and divvying that up and having it in different places, especially in crypto. Like, I use multiple exchanges that are centralized. I use multiple DEXs and and decentralized perks DEXs that are decentralized. Right? And even if you're on, like, Hyperliquid, they don't have tools where you can actually... You know, you you can remain hidden. But the way that they do it is, you know, I'm I'm not totally on board with... Still doing my research with the way that they're hiding it because they're kinda pulling you in with other stuff. So, you know, what happens if something happens to their pool and, like, all this kind of stuff? But, you know, you can... Instead of, like, being a James Wynn where everybody is literally tracking your your freaking wallet and watching you lose over and over again, but it's okay because you've been paid to do it because you're taking the other side of the trade somewhere else off exchanges. But that's... Anyway, good marketing, by the way. You can... You would never... That just doesn't seem smart to put that all on that trade. You can split it between different wallets, and you can take the same trade across those wallets. There's tools to do it that initiate them all at the same price too. So, like, it doesn't make a lot sense.
[1:01:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's that?
[1:01:34] Voice G: You you sound like a robot.
[1:01:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You sound like a... No. You sound
[1:01:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: like Dave
[1:01:40] Voice G: sounds like robot too.
[1:01:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, no. I think you need to take a laugh, Marnie. Odd
[1:01:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: man out.
[1:01:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Odd man out. Yeah.
[1:01:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: In in reference to all... Great great takes, Landy. In reference to all of that, though, I think if you're if you're giving your trade a little bit of wiggle room, whether they see it or not, you should be you should be okay. Right? Even if you're in a losing position and you're able to trade your weight out of it, if you give it a... If you're if you're not trading on the one minute candle, you're... You should be alright.
[1:02:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's all about liquidity, though. Right? So, like, certain
[1:02:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: quarters, you
[1:02:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: can have less liquidity, and it's easier to hunt larger positions. So... And and if you get any kind of index or oracle mismatch in price, it can skip over your stops in some cases and go right for your liquidations. Also, I'm not a big fan of this auto deleveraging crap, that seems to be a reoccurring theme, you know, especially when you're in a beautiful position.
[1:02:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: They said, hey, man. You made too much money. We're gonna stop you out right here, little puppet. Thank you. Yes. Yes. This actually did happen. Yes.
[1:02:47] Voice G: That messed up.... Terrible.
[1:02:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Imagine you're making too much... That is what? Only in crypto. That's what's only in crypto this time.
[1:02:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: It closed it closed 40% of my position when I did not have the TP at that particular price. It was higher. And then it went to my price that I was looking for that was higher, and I was not very happy. As I was watching it happen, I'm going, this is this is BS. But I didn't actually have that... I did not have that problem on a little platform called Osteum. It was pretty even fine.
[1:03:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can Osteum pay us at the end of the day?
[1:03:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, you can
[1:03:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: send it. Was this on 10:10?
[1:03:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Code Landy. No. It wasn't on 10:10.
[1:03:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're showing affiliatelinks.com. Oh my god. Never thought I'd be
[1:03:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: happy to assist.... Know if it's active. I'm just I'm just joking. Have to use the Yeah.
[1:03:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank god. I never thought I'd be so happy to see you, bro. What's up?
[1:03:45] Voice J: Yo, man. Dave, I'm gonna disappoint you, bro, but I actually have, like, a question for Landy because I heard you guys were speaking about, like, DEXs and stuff. I couldn't quite hear what you were saying because I was a little bit busy, but I do wanna know something, Landy. So I pretty much I I trying to stop using CXs, bro, and I'm trying to use Relay as much as possible to convert everything that I have from EVM to Bitcoin because it can do that, which is pretty cool for me because I had, like, issues with exchanges, even Binance and stuff. Anyway, so my my question is this, do you think it's possible that you can get sandwiched on on Relay when you're bridging something? Because I don't know. Yeah. I heard
[1:04:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's always a risk. Right? Like, I don't know how... When you're bridging, you know, you have to... You're providing liquidity on one side for the liquidity that's already on the other. Right? So could you? In theory, yes. This is why bridges bridges are are... Have always been kinda dicey, and we just kinda gloss over that fact. And that's why there's certain players in this game that have taken a really long time to re... Release their Bitcoin l two or transition to Bitcoin l two because they're trying to, you know, solve for that problem. And, usually, what happens in order to provide the liquidity on the other side is that wrap product actually isn't funded. It's literally... It's Fugazi's Fugazi's Ferry Dust. Alright? It's it's just for Dave. I I can't say... I can't speak to Relay specifically, to be honest with you. I I don't really have a lot of experience with it. I would say that's always a risk. But if you're doing smaller amounts or if you're doing regular, you know, or you're doing you're doing consistent but maybe not regular cadence of amounts for for bridging and transferring, you should be okay. I... It's really how much have you dug into the documentation at the end of the day. Brad has something
[1:06:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: to say.
[1:06:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: So... Yeah. That... The actual platform relay, I I can't speak a 100% to. I haven't really played around with or even really used it. But whenever you're bridging, you can get sandwiched twice actually in and out. And I always recommend if you... If it... You know, unless you're trying to play flash loan games and you're trying to ARB APYs across networks, like, just convert to stables and then bridge over to the chain you want in a stable and convert from there, because you're not gonna get sandwiched on a stablecoin. You might get fees depending on the platform you're using, but you're, you know, more than likely, you're not gonna get sandwich attacked on stables unless you're moving, like, I don't know, like, 9 figure. You know, you're setting off alarms.
[1:06:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fred, I read about a guy. Sorry. Go ahead, comma.
[1:06:53] Voice F: I was just saying you also get taxed for every swap you make. Remember?
[1:06:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Bro, I don't know. Taxes. We're gonna swap it. Yeah. Taxes.
[1:07:00] Bread @_ToastMalone: I love my taxes. I love the... I love taxes.
[1:07:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where somebody swapped $250 from USDC to USDT and got back $5,000. Like, it's milliseconds in... Bro, I literally read the story three days ago. I'm not gonna... I gotta go find it.
[1:07:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, yeah, that's USDC to USDT. Right? But if you're trying to... Yeah. Yeah. But if you're trying to do that across... Like, from a different... Like, you wanna bridge Ethereum over to Solana. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like, don't don't... Your odds of getting sandwiched going on a direct swap from Ethereum to Solana while migrating chains is much higher than if you just go USDC on, you know, Ethereum and send over USDC, you know, bridge it to USDC on Solana. And then once you have the USDC on Solana, convert it.
[1:07:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I'm hoping these bridges are using, like, some of the fastest private RPCs that are out here. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't... I'd hope so. It's not like, hey, everybody. Here's our public RPC. If you want a bridge over, here you go. You know what I mean? Like, come... I mean, a little secure... And honestly, that wouldn't surprise me. If I'm being perfectly honest, like, that probably wouldn't surprise me. But, anyways... Yeah. Capreto, go ahead if you wanna finish up your, your question.
[1:08:10] Voice J: Yeah. So pretty much... Yeah. So it's gonna be c x. Right? If you're gonna have, like, a lot of money to swap into Bitcoin. That... That's what you're telling me. So it's, the safest play, pretty much. Okay.
[1:08:23] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, you don't have to go through us. You don't have to go through a centralized exchange. You'll you'll pay more in you'll pay more in fees. It'll probably be safer, but you'll get hit with a way larger fee if you're trying to, like, do all of the transactions, you know, through Coinbase or something. You know? Like, honestly, it is probably long term safer, but you're going to pay for that, security through just, you know, outrageous fees.
[1:08:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have a question I have a question for the audience and and audience and the panel, meaning that if you're in the audience and you know, or have some input, put it in the comments. You know that the the treasury just came out with the whole mixer take. Right? Like, where the mixers actually serve a purpose. Right? Likely because if they are silently accumulating Bitcoin in a budget neutral manager... Manager. And then if they're silent Manner. Manner. Thank you. Words. English. My first language is a
[1:09:24] Voice G: matter words. Yeah.
[1:09:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Open call.
[1:09:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Welcome to my world, Landy.
[1:09:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Man, I'm seeing. I completely lost it too there. But, you know, mixers are another... You know, You gotta... How is it being mixed, and who's doing the mixing? Right? Like, I I could totally see now that that is out there, and they probably used mixers, right, which is why they've come up with this opinion of, no. They're needed. Well, especially if you're gonna do budget neutral accumulation and you don't want the public to know or other companies to know so that you get a run on whatever it is you're trying to accumulate. But I could totally see on the back of something like that, malicious mixers just getting popped up everywhere. Those... As I was reading that, that was the first thing I thought of. So what is your opinion across the stage here? Because I don't know how many of you have used mixers or developed them in some cases because that's something interesting to me. Not that I'm... I'm not implying anything. I'm just saying, like, this could be a potential attack vector.
[1:10:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Two
[1:10:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: two things. So just to dumb it down for the audience. Right? It makes it a service that makes it... It makes the transactions anonymous by releasing funds, right, and make... Making them hard to trace. Two, before you answer the question, guys, Landy is a government pop, government puppet? Just wanna know.
[1:10:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: I contract. I don't I don't actually... They're... They don't give
[1:10:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: me my... She's trying to throw us off the scent. They're married, these two. Alright? We established this. The jig is up, you guys.
[1:11:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: She does have an ass
[1:11:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: off list, though, by the way. Exactly. Exactly. Like I said like I said, called it. Fred, go ahead.
[1:11:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: Alright. Well, I'm gonna do Thanksgiving with Nat Nat and Christmas with Landy, I think, is, is what I'm gonna do. But with the with the mixers
[1:11:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: promise to bring dock markets with you.
[1:11:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or or, you know, the stock markets... Stockings. You know? We can figure something out there.
[1:11:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Markets?
[1:11:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: The the mixer stuff. Right? A friend of mine, a buddy, a guy I know, used to play around with tornado cash, you know, before it got banned and things like that. Right? And there are a few others out there. The same friend one time was playing around creating one and accidentally essentially built a service that's, like, burner phones, but wallet addresses that are good for onetime use, and then they disappear. Right? And now that I'm thinking about that, you know, like, you know, maybe maybe that's something that an agent could handle for you, you know, because it it has the ability to spin up 20 to 50,000 wallets at any given time, and make transfers and do things like that, and then maybe just burn the wallets forever once they're done.
[1:12:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are we trying to aid the cartel?
[1:12:21] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm trying... I'm gonna talk to my buddy later then see if that's something he would be interested in.
[1:12:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. And I have nothing
[1:12:27] Bread @_ToastMalone: to do with that.
[1:12:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Of course.
[1:12:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I really appreciate that. Be a meeting. Okay. We'll talk later.
[1:12:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Perfect.
[1:12:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: They told you. Yeah.
[1:12:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a meeting. That's gonna be a whole meeting. Party of one. Party of one.
[1:12:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: Landy, is that you in the SUV out in front of
[1:12:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: my house? Exactly. Yes. It's the black one with the
[1:12:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: with the suburban, bro. Yeah. Blacked out windows. Yeah, bro.
[1:12:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: Don't Alright. Yeah. Let me put my shoes on. I'll be right out.
[1:12:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let me put my shoes on. Oh, that's so good. Let me put my shoes on. What was I just gonna... I was just gonna say something else. I had something I wanted to say about... Oh, Landy. So I've never played with TornadoCast. Right? Like, I never used to put things through mixers, but when we built thon swap, for those that remember... By the way, still fun... Actually, I don't know if it's still functional. Oh, I'm
[1:13:13] Voice G: Thong swap?
[1:13:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Thon swap. T h
[1:13:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: n... Now everybody's disappointed....
[1:13:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Our June... Oh my god. It was our Junie story time utility. We created a whole swap to be able to transfer in and out of, like, the Tron ecosystem into, like, EVM, Solana, Bitcoin, and it was working amazingly. I just...
[1:13:33] Voice G: Thong swaps.
[1:13:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thong, t h o n. Thong. Thong. Although that was our intro music.
[1:13:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thongs like a chuck. Joke. Joke. As I... No. I've never used that, but privacy is a thing, bro. Like, bottom line. But, yeah, it probably can be open. Well, I guess maybe I'm not security expert, but if the US government's gonna start gonna start using it, bring in the big boys. Alright? Like, let's get Palmer Lucky, Palantir. Let's get the boys to make sure that, like, we're covered out here. You know what
[1:14:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm saying? Bank haul bread. Don't give Palantir. They're the... Everybody's a subcontractor to Palantir because Palantir is just snooping all their stuff. Meanwhile, Palantir's... Their products are completely unlocked. So if you really want to be tracked and targeted, go ahead and get Palantir involved. They'll help you out.
[1:14:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like I said, privacy Palantir. Those names don't go together. The engineer, go ahead.
[1:14:37] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Alright. So I have tracked, transfers through Tornado Cash, manually tracked them, and this was a while ago.
[1:14:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: But when What's that mean? What does that mean?
[1:14:48] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: So I tracked the money going in, watched the amounts going around, and watched the total coming back out. And you should be around the amount that went in, and it'll be the same amount coming back out.
[1:15:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on a second.
[1:15:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Saying he heuristic analysis is what he did because you can't do direct blockchain analysis because it's mixing. You're just tracking the entry and the exit. And that's I will... I didn't
[1:15:15] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: wanna complicate it, Mandy, but thank you.
[1:15:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't the mix up... But don't the mix ups... Yeah. Exactly. Thank you, the engineer, by the way. So, essentially, for the dummies like me who didn't even understand the engineer... What the engineer said... But but appease me for a second. Isn't Tornado Cash, like, you put in, right, and then you don't see what's coming out? Don't they change up the quantity, the crypto, like, what comes out the other side? How in the world can you potentially do that?
[1:15:37] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: On the settings. It always depends on the settings. Of what? Like, do you wanna send it to multiple wallets? Do you wanna......
[1:15:44] Voice F: Track me.
[1:15:45] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Sorry, Coma. Go? Right.
[1:15:47] Voice F: That's the setting, basically. You just... You basically see... You just... I mean, I'm I'm dumbing it down, but you you... There... You could send it to multiple wallets.
[1:15:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: But how do you track that? Like, if you don't see... Like, can't you stagger the time? I mean, I've never used Tornado Cash. Is it me? But, like, I would assume if this was made such a big deal that you can divvy up the wallets, you could divvy up the quantity, you can stagger out the time. Is... Am I crazy? Or
[1:16:08] Bread @_ToastMalone: There's ways to track it. They go, like, super, super deep into, like like... People always talk about blocks and, like, maybe some people have heard about nonces and things like... But there's also things called, like, uncle blocks, parent blocks. You know? And there's time and date stamps on these things and the amount that moves. Like, there's there's
[1:16:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: a lot of things.
[1:16:25] Voice E: Right? When someone put the computer
[1:16:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Guys like to know how
[1:16:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: to block
[1:16:29] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Toshi. We're gonna make
[1:16:31] Voice G: this uncle block.
[1:16:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: The Toshi man. Toshi.
[1:16:35] Voice G: Well, it's always the uncle.
[1:16:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Was was just rave... Raging the other day at dinner. It was wild. And then made, like, weird weird comments to the kids, and we're like, you know what? Listen, uncle Block. You gotta take a look at
[1:16:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: the table. The uncle Block is the one that smells like like cheap whiskey and cigarettes.
[1:16:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Okay. Hold on.
[1:16:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: So time out. Pause.
[1:16:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: The reason I was bringing
[1:16:56] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: this up because Brad brought up that agent to create the burner wallets. There is a possibility to create an agent that can actually track these transactions with, like, some level of probability that is correct. So, Brad, I'm just saying there's a... Something could be done there.
[1:17:16] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm gonna build both and then try to raise against each other and see what happens. At this point, if I... Like, what I... What do I have to lose?
[1:17:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is amazing. You know, my uncle Block was the first one that gave me weed. Yeah.
[1:17:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. That was the uncle... That was my aunt Ka.
[1:17:34] Bread @_ToastMalone: Still had the screwdriver marks in it.
[1:17:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Phillips head?
[1:17:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. Flathead, sir.
[1:17:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Remember the guy who created Phillipshead?
[1:17:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, genius, bro. Like like, bro, I'm... Like, he's my idol, man. The simplest idea, and it's, like, Jenny wealth forever and, like, global mass adoption off. Like, I'm just gonna cut another line in the screw head so it turns easier. Like, like, kudos. Like, that's my idol, bro.
[1:18:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uncle Wait. Wait.
[1:18:04] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Who cut his line on a... What? Sorry. What? Bro.
[1:18:07] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. So, Conrad, I'll I'll do a TLDR. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Sunday, we were talking about problems that need to be solved are usually the simplest problems and have the simplest solutions, and everyone's overcomplicating shit with AI. And at the end of the day, the Phillips head screw wasn't invented until the late fifties. And so until then, everything was flathead. And this guy was like, my screwdriver keeps slipping. I'm just gonna cut another line in the screw and make a Phillips head screw, and now that's all that's used everywhere. And that dude has the patent on it.
[1:18:38] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: And then a Canadian came along and k... Commit... Created the Robertson.
[1:18:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: Right. Or the square head.
[1:18:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? What the hell is a Robertson?
[1:18:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. But didn't Canadians also create the security torques bit? Because if that was used for UK... Oh god.
[1:18:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is this gonna... Is this torques?
[1:18:56] Voice G: The lovely torques.
[1:18:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have no
[1:18:59] Voice G: idea what they're talking
[1:18:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: about.... Engineer. For the... For those of us that that that don't understand, what's a Robertson? The...
[1:19:06] Voice K: Far as
[1:19:06] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: I know, that's a lot of...... Screwdrivers.
[1:19:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's flathead.
[1:19:10] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: No. Square.
[1:19:12] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yes. Square bit.
[1:19:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Square bit. Yeah. They're dumb.
[1:19:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Are you telling
[1:19:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: me that difference, every different, like, drill bit, like, has a name? You can't just claim Oh, yeah.
[1:19:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: There's hacks, and then there's, like, you got t 20, t tens, like the... Yeah. Dude, there's all
[1:19:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: sorts but,
[1:19:27] Voice G: like, Robertson Phillips.
[1:19:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? Flat.
[1:19:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's... This is so beautiful, guys. You guys are... This is, like, education one zero one. We learned about the the theo block, and now we know about Robertson. No.
[1:19:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: We might be special at this point. I'm just saying. We might be special at it. Everyone go get your helmets.
[1:19:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: The Robert's
[1:19:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: Listen. The trades are coming back. You know, they're not gonna be replaced by AI still
[1:19:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's true.
[1:19:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: According to every report. So, like, learn your different screw heads and bit types because everyone here is gonna end up just having to be building shit.
[1:19:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: You wanna hear something really funny? So today, like, in my apartment, right, like, downstairs is where, like, the, like, the water heater is or whatever. Right? So, like, my, like, my mom and dad, like, they they call down. They're like, hey. Something going on with the water heater? And I'm like, oh, yeah. It's kinda beeping. Like, what the hell? So I go to the thing. I open up the door, and it's, like, beeping. So I'm like, what what the fuck do I... And there's, like, pipes everywhere, valves, this. I'm like, what? I don't know this shit.
[1:20:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: 14 security beds.
[1:20:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. So... Yeah. So I'm like... He's like, what is this? Like, what's going on? So I'm like, ah. So I pulled out GPT, and I started video chatting with Chad GPT, and I'm like, look at this. I'm like, tell me what's wrong here. And she's like, well, from the looks of it, that's your water heater, and it looks like it's off. So you might wanna turn it back on. And I'm like, oh, but how do I do that? So I show her the whole room, and she's like, yeah. So you see that plug? She's like, just unplug that. And I'm like, oh, like, okay. Like, cool. So I unplug it, and then I plug it back in. And then, like, it's kinda... Like, it loads up or whatever. And by by this time, though, like, we called the plumber already. Right? So the plumber's already, like, on his way. Like, just because, obviously, I'm not gonna troubleshoot this shit. So guy gets here, like, gets working again, right, before he gets here. And he looks at me, and he's like, what what
[1:21:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Uh-oh. The CIA
[1:21:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god.
[1:21:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what
[1:21:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean? Oh my god. They... See what I'm saying? They they were listening.
[1:21:15] Bread @_ToastMalone: Gbt blew up his house, bro.
[1:21:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're literally listening to me, and they do this on purpose. I'm not kidding. So long story short is he looks at me, and he's like, oh, he's like, what happened? He's like, what, like, what did you guys do? And he's looking at me. I'm saying to myself, like, is he asking? He's like, what, like, what happened here? And I'm just looking. He's like, is he asking me because I fixed it, or is he asking me to, like, be like, you fucked something up? So I'm like, I don't know. Like, what's it... What's what's it saying? I was like, I did a little homework, and it's something about, like, the pressure. And he was like, yeah. Yeah. The pressure, but, like, you just have to hit this button and, like, you're good. And I'm like, oh. And then he goes, like, how'd you figure it out? I'm like, oh, I I I go, I was, on chat GPT. The look on this man's face when I said I tried to troubleshoot something. Like, it's like I minimized his entire existence just with those words, and he looked at me like, you piece of shit. Like, you didn't care if you blew up the whole house. You didn't give two shits about none of this. Like, what did... Like, you didn't know what you were doing. Like, I saw that in his face, but I couldn't explain to him. Like, no. No. No. But I was live with GPT. It was a live video. Like, you know, you could do that now. And she's like, she walked me through it. Like... But it really wasn't that much. So, like, you're not gonna charge us a million dollars for, like, taking out the plug and plugging it back in. You know what I mean? So...
[1:22:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. But he was going to. If you didn't do it, he was gonna show up, unplug it, plug it back in, charge you $300 for a service lock.
[1:22:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, Brad, do you know
[1:22:37] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: what he just... What... Dave just learned? How to restart a machine. Like, the most basic of basics.
[1:22:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: He literally learned that.... Restart the machine. D d, I learned that when I was eight years old playing Nintendo. You know what I mean? Unplug it.
[1:22:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Blow on it. Blow on the controller.
[1:22:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: The pilot light. Now it's even worse.
[1:22:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I was gonna say that, Fred. Korea's troubleshooting.
[1:23:00] Voice F: Blows up. Blow game.
[1:23:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was like, oh, do I need... And when the blowing didn't work... Pause. When the blowing didn't work, you had to go get the alcohol swab. You know? You're just like,
[1:23:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: oh, let me get
[1:23:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: the swab, you know, the alcohol swab. I thought you were just saying
[1:23:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: when the blowing didn't work, he gave you a bill. So anyway When
[1:23:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: the blowing didn't work, Yeah. Shout to vodka for everybody. Oh, look who decided to show up. We gotta get our daily fix, guys. Hold on a second. Hey, alpha gamer. What's up? We were talking about your call. You're a little bit late, but how are you?
[1:23:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. He's on Android. Android's having issues all day, and then he was telling me that, like, it's a nightmare. Gamer. Dang it. You got seven minutes to make it count.
[1:23:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Gamer, can
[1:23:43] Voice E: you hear me? Gamer, can... Oh, look at... Gamer, can you hear me?
[1:23:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: Seven minutes of heaven. Dave, your house doesn't smell like gas currently. Right? I'm just... Safety check here.
[1:23:53] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Can you imagine? Think the actual...
[1:23:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's it called? The... What's it called? Alarm went up. The carbon monoxide went up, but we just shut that shit off.
[1:24:01] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah. Safety first.
[1:24:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. My god. The batteries. Eggs.
[1:24:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. The batteries or something.
[1:24:08] Bread @_ToastMalone: You know? Catalytic converter.
[1:24:09] Voice E: I think
[1:24:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: you should just run out the house.
[1:24:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Imagine all of sudden Bubba walks over and he's like, ugh. And he's just, like, killed off. And I'm like, bro, what's wrong with the dog?
[1:24:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. He's gonna be the
[1:24:21] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: one that's
[1:24:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: still alive because he's low. You're gonna be up there. You're gonna be the one that's passing out hitting the floor.
[1:24:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay, gamer. In order for you not to get kicked out of spaces, you have to get sent an invite.
[1:24:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I did send
[1:24:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: an invite. If I request, then I get kicked from spaces. Okay. Well, I just sent you an invite. Oh, man. He's gonna come up on some shit. He's probably thinking like, you guys, this dude sent me an invite.
[1:24:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. He's probably gonna say it's a beautiful day in the bay.
[1:24:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I hope. I hope. That's what I kinda wanted him up here for. You know? But he's got the invites. I mean, I'm spamming him invites.
[1:24:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what I just realized, Dave? Matt? I I realized that
[1:24:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes.
[1:24:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: When the robot overlords take over, they're gonna preplan, and they're gonna use a different screw type and security bit type. There's gonna be Robinson screws everywhere, but then you're gonna have a bit of some security screws and torque screws so that no one can ever actually disassemble them because you're You know what solves that, Randy?
[1:25:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up?
[1:25:20] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: A a side cutter. Rotating side cutter. Woah. Woah. That that solves all issues. And a sledgehammer. Those are our two favorite tools.
[1:25:27] Bread @_ToastMalone: A settling torch.
[1:25:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: That too? Torch. Okay. Like a really, really good quality angle grinder maybe as well with a diamond with a diamond test?
[1:25:38] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: That was the word I was looking for,
[1:25:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: and I... You're swung. Yeah. Yeah. Can just take the batteries out out of the back. I think that should be important.
[1:25:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: Can't be too tight if it's liquid.
[1:25:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know?
[1:25:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. I'm just trying to find ways in which I could defeat Marni's bot over here because I feel like it's gonna show up to my house at some point.
[1:25:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Marnica? Marnica? Marnica. Monica and Marnica. Oh, depending on where
[1:26:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: you're from. That's too good.
[1:26:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think this friend have so
[1:26:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: many methods for taking robots apart. He's
[1:26:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why does he know so many screwdriver heads or screw heads, bro? That... And the engineer also. Like, what... Where were these kids?
[1:26:24] Voice J: Where did you engineer. What do you want from me?
[1:26:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. We're builders, bro. We build everything. It doesn't matter what the medium is.
[1:26:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: For for Dave and I with the with the hard hat on. Is it Robertson or Robinson?
[1:26:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't if she called it a hard hat.
[1:26:39] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Robert. Robert.
[1:26:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Engineers wear. Because we're the ones that are just
[1:26:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: You're wearing
[1:26:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: that helmet. That have no business being there.
[1:26:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. You guys have the white hats on. Like, they're And we're all talking shit about you.
[1:26:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, they're they're, like, showing us the architecture, and me and that are just looking around like, is this gonna be house?
[1:26:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Or or what? You guys seen have you guys seen that meme where they ask this guy? He's... They're like, what what are you doing? He's like, oh, just looking around. That's how that's been.
[1:27:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, we have, like, the... You know what I mean? Like, the reflective vests on. We're, like, 90 stories up, you know, looking around like, super windy. I'm in, like, a suit, and that's all, like, business prep, and de engineered bread are just walking us around being like, and they're up and derps and the technical structures and all of the laser beams, and we're like, is this the bathroom? Is this where the bathroom's gonna go? Alright. Nice. Nice. And is it Robertson, or is it Robin? Robinson.
[1:27:36] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Missus Robinson.
[1:27:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's Missus Robinson. Robinson. Robinson. Robinson. Robinson. Right? That's just a a... If your name is Roberson, it's just like a dip... Like
[1:27:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: Who the hell's name is Roberson?
[1:27:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know, but that's a name.
[1:27:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: But I'm gonna name my robot Roberson.
[1:27:55] Bread @_ToastMalone: Sounds like a senator.
[1:27:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: First of all, and the other thing, well, I'm bringing Brett up on charges. Number one, this needs to stop with this whole robot business. Alright? Nat, do you hear what they do? I do this all the time too.
[1:28:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Robots? Robots. The robot's doing this, Fred. What's it doing?
[1:28:10] Bread @_ToastMalone: Goddamn robots.
[1:28:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: See? See what I mean? She's crazy. Natalie's rugged. No. Oh, she's she's laughing. I'm like, oh, shit. Now I was laughing so hard. I thought she was wrong. I was like, she's unmuted. I can't hear shit. I was literally just about to kick you down and bring you back up.
[1:28:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brett, stop it. Okay? You you can't re... Like, can't transform the English language. It's like when everybody came into crypto, all of a sudden, they forgot to learn... To say the word collaboration. A collab, not a collab. What's a collab, you momos? None of that makes sense.
[1:28:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: A collaboration. It's a laboratory where they grow intestines. A collab.
[1:28:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's where cod does a work with collab.
[1:29:00] Bread @_ToastMalone: We need more acronyms then, I think, is what we should do then. Let's just let's just get some new acronyms for these
[1:29:06] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: real to me, bro. Speak dirty.
[1:29:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Every time I'm on this AI space every time I'm on the AI space, I get so confused because everyone is talking about... Talking in, like, three letters acronyms. I'm like, what in the world?
[1:29:21] Bread @_ToastMalone: Just spinning up a POC for our new LLM that we're integrating to our MCP later.
[1:29:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. LLMs, MCPs. Meanwhile, Nat's like, yeah, guys. This was a great space. Great space. I learned nothing. I would love if Nat just gave, like, a candid review at the end of one of those instead of, like... Because she's so supportive with, like, participation trophies. Imagine she was just like, hey, guys. And she went on, like, an f bomb rant being like, guys.
[1:29:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, last week's terrible. Top in space. Someone almost got her last week, and then she... This is how you know Nat is such a sweet person because she was just taking it all in. She was like, yeah. Mhmm. Okay. Mhmm. And she popped out the other side of that unmuted and was like, wow. That's really fantastic. I was dying in the audience. When
[1:30:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: you know that, like, you're surrounded by the village idiots, right, and you're, like, the smart one, like, that's kind of the high road. So now kudos to you just for being like, yeah. I'm not gonna argue with this idiot. Like, what am I... What what am I gonna bother with this fool? Like, done and done. Like, oh, that's great. Fantastic. If I was in the audience listening, I'd be like, oh, that boy just
[1:30:31] Voice E: got it.
[1:30:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Anyways, Nat, real quick. A couple of extra stories. I saw the Wells Fargo story you put up top. Wells Fargo has filed a trademark for WFUSD. What the fuck? USD. That's crazy. I just
[1:30:48] Voice F: Can you say that again? What is it?
[1:30:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: My goodness. My goodness. Yeah. Matt, anything on this story? Or that just pretty much go
[1:31:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: You got it.
[1:31:02] Voice F: Wait. What what is this? What is it again, Dave? What is
[1:31:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: WFUSD USD is the Wells Fargo. They're looking to... What's it called? You know? Like, to to do a thing. A stablecoin.
[1:31:13] Voice F: What does the u stand... What does the f and u stand for?
[1:31:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop that now. Stop that now. Oh my god. Wait. I gotta clean this tunnel off for $52? Like, let's go.
[1:31:26] Voice F: Wait. What's that? It's becoming a billboard.
[1:31:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it.
[1:31:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Right. So this this this news, while it's good I I don't think it's surprising, Mike, because we're seeing... I believe it was Fidelity that launched their own stablecoin, right, and a and a few others are gearing towards the same route. So I think we're gonna expect to see more of this. Right? I believe JPMorgan is doing something as well, Bank of America. So this is, like, the next narrative when when it comes to banks. And, Dave, I believe we were on a space a few months ago. I forgot the name of the space, but we're we're kinda, like, talking about how do we... How does TradFi and crypto go together? Right? And I believe you and I, we were talking about the blending of both worlds and where we... When we're... See... Where we see these banks adopt crypto, be it, stablecoin or or supporting and onboarding individuals. I think this is, like, this is gonna be the new narrative for sure. I could see a lot of banks going ahead and do this as well.
[1:32:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. I think as stablecoins are gonna become as common and and people think, like, oh, the RWA narrative is not as good as, like, nah. It's all high. Bro, like, stablecoins are your clearest example of real world assets on chain. Like, just kinda get get get behind this. Yeah. Lindy, go ahead.
[1:32:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I was literally just talking about how this was gonna occur earlier in this space earlier than that, and the wolf crew is that what you're gonna see is a lot more stablecoin issuance. They're all prepping to do it. They're hiring outside advisers to do it that might know a
[1:33:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: little bit about this stuff,
[1:33:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: and they're working with firms that are involved in the crypto space. They're also reaching out to VC partners. And a lot of these larger organizations, these asset under management companies are utilizing VCs to get involved in crypto as well. They've been funding stuff for many years now. They're actually more prepared than you would think. It's just that that information flow doesn't get back to the main company. Right? So when they go to, like... There's this disconnect between what some of their VC arms and associated companies are doing, and and then that knowledge gap doesn't... That knowledge gap persists because it... That information doesn't pass up the chain. And now they're starting to get more involved as, of course, we see, you know, maybe some compromises coming up with legislation for the Clarity Act or the other bill that's likely getting pieces worked into the Clarity Act in the senate is that it... As long as it's not undoing what was passed in the Genius Act, you're gonna see them move forward with stablecoin issuance. And then they're gonna move part of their existing treasuries over and then, do the issuance of the stablecoins and fund it using the cash that the the treasuries... The fractional treasuries, would have to be paired with in order to mint those stablecoins. So they'll use money, they'll buy treasuries, or they'll move treasuries in order to do issuance, and then they're gonna tokenize, well, what does Larry say? Everything. And they're gonna start with their products, though. And you can see how this is gonna move to their products direct to the customer at local branches. And that's one of the strategies that they're gonna use is, hey. We... If you have crypto assets and you want us to handle it for you here, we have our stablecoin, the WFUSD, which is funny. And and and you can earn percentage yield from it that's gonna be higher than your normal checking account, but it's not gonna change. You just handle it all through your normal app, through your Wells Fargo app. And then if you wanna buy crypto, it's custodied here. You know it's safe. It's insured. It's FDIC insured. And then, what they're likely gonna try to do is keep you in their products if they have a product to offer or additionally give you more access to other already wrapped products for crypto that are both on chain and off chain. That's gonna be the way that they kinda back end you into utilizing cryptocurrencies, but also getting involved in their stock market products, which will eventually be tokenized products anyway. Wells Fargo, not a small bank, and they have a large piece of... Through their investments, a large piece on their books of these ETFs as well. So when we move to tokenize everything, they're probably gonna participate in providing that liquidity, which is going to be a complete game changer because that's where all the liquidity is gonna be. That's where the trillions of dollars comes in. Because when we talk about, oh, crypto's small, it's gonna have trillions of dollars. When you see the talking heads get on TV, all these big asset under managers asset under management... Managers and heads. What do they do? What are they really talking about? They're talking about moving portfolios to create that liquidity for their products for twenty four hour trading and execution being, you know, zero day and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, most people are gonna... Crypto is gonna have a lot of liquidity, but maybe your favorite coin won't.
[1:36:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We'll see. TSN, go ahead. No good to cover, Brad.
[1:37:03] tsn @tsncrypto: I'm just gonna ask some questions, to be fair. It sounds really interesting what they're gonna do. So do you think the end consumer is gonna see anything about crypto or if you just think it's gonna be, like, going into their funds and they're investing?
[1:37:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, how do you authorize transactions? Right? Like, I heard that, like, you know, stables were coming to Zelle. Zelle for us here is, like, Revolut, right, where it's, you can instantly send money like PayPal, like... But, like, between banks. You know what I'm saying? Instantly. But if you bring stables there, it's like, how does that work? Do they just keep it on their books? And it's just like, you know, everything's happening kind of like in the background. I like Revolut.
[1:37:37] tsn @tsncrypto: To be fair, Revolut's really proactive with the crypto. It's just stuck on your business. They just need to pass it down to the consumer.
[1:37:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think they're gonna hide everything, bro. Like, we talk about this all the time, and me me, Brett, and everybody was like, just hide all these wires. You can't expect people to start
[1:37:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: approving transactions. Eventually, they'll hide it all. But at first, for the introduction, from a legal standpoint to remain compliant on the banking side, they're likely gonna break it out into its own thing. Like, you have Zelle in every... Like, a separate part of every banking app. You're likely gonna see it as a separate part initially. And then any kind of transfer, like, from Zelle... You know, you're transferring from your checking to Zelle, and Zelle, you know, sends it to whoever. Right? Or you get... You you can receive using your phone number. That kind of stuff will be all transparent on the back end or, hidden rather on the back end, meaning that, you know, the wallets and the way the wallet and and the conversion from that wallet to your checking or whatever it might be for that account is going to take some time. Because I think that kind of ease of use, because of the transfer costs incurred by the bank doing internal transfers, if it's not their blockchain that they've spun up themselves, you know, they still have to pay those fees. So they're likely gonna have it as a separate portion of the applications. They're still figuring this stuff out. This is really early days, and they really should just...
[1:39:09] tsn @tsncrypto: You think they'll spin up their own blockchains? I've got a feeling they might, depending how how big they are.
[1:39:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. They're gonna probably gonna do the, you know, the EVM compatible chains for their own so that they don't have to pay anybody else. They own the infrastructure. It's fully controlled by them. And then all of the liquidity is trapped there as well.
[1:39:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: We haven't we haven't talked about Canton.
[1:39:31] tsn @tsncrypto: I was just thinking about x money in the future. So he's like
[1:39:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good point. Good point. I mean, Visa's gonna do it. I think I... It's no brainer that Visa's probably gonna come out with their stablecoin, but Christian, Landy, yeah, come on. Go ahead, and then we'll to Brandon. We'll wrap up.
[1:39:43] Voice F: Yeah. I mean, it... It's a bit confusing to me, like, how they're approaching it, to be honest with you, because, like, we've seen Robinhood already. You know, they're already on Arbitrum, and then they're gonna probably create their own chain. And then... But, like, now with, like, Wells Fargo creating their own stablecoin, it seems like almost they're doing it, like, backwards a little bit because, like, I I just don't know how this actually will work in practice because, like, if you're transferring this... Unless it's the... Unless, like, they've already created their own chain, then that makes sense. And this this whatever Wells Fargo, UUSD is the actual stable point within that chain. Because, like, it seems like this could only be done through, like, internal transactions, like a Wells Fargo to a Wells Fargo account. Because, like, the beauty of something like Zelle is that I could go from, like, Bank of America to Chase or whatever, you know, like, any other bank accounts. But then if Wells Fargo creates their own chain and, like, JPMorgan creates their own chain and, like, are... Is there is there gonna be some, like, business of banks where they... You know, all they do is just literally bridge between these these chains, essentially. Like, I I... I'm just a little, like, confused on how this, like, agreement amongst multiple banks is gonna happen if if they really want these, like, instant tran... Instant transactions and whatnot. So it seems like there's, like, an internal play, but, like, from an external, like, external bank perspective, it's it's... It is a bit hazy to me unless maybe some of you guys have better insights about how that...
[1:41:14] tsn @tsncrypto: I think you're right. I think you're right. And it's how you get people to use it. So how do you get people to trust and use it off the off... Off the user base? So that's why I was thinking about the sort
[1:41:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not too worried about that,
[1:41:28] Voice F: to be honest with you, because they could just... You can, like, you put a nice, like, pretty UI. You just say, like, I'm sending it to Dave.
[1:41:35] tsn @tsncrypto: And then Dave... No. But if you're going to, like, like, mass consumer appeal straight away or you go into, like, a huge use use base like x has, 600 plus million people using it. You've got to have that flow. It's got to be right because it's an adoption piece.
[1:41:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crypto... But crypto and fables was not mentioned in the x money release just FYI. But come on with you.
[1:41:56] tsn @tsncrypto: No. No. It's not it's not being mentioned whatsoever. Whatsoever. I will completely disc... Disclaim myself from that.
[1:42:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I was
[1:42:02] Voice F: just thinking about just as a personal user. Like, the front end, I think they'll figure out a way to, like, mask it and make it look very web two compliant, but, like... Or, like, accessible. But from the back end, like, especially if we wanna do, like, private transactions and stuff like that, it's it's confusing to me. But I don't know, Landy, if you have some thoughts. I know you have your hand.
[1:42:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: LayerZero. Wait. Let me go to... Wait. Okay.
[1:42:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Go ahead. I was gonna... Oh, I didn't see any other hands. My bad. What what they're gonna do for right now is is use it for institutional use cases. Right? So that's really what you're seeing happen with JPMD. With FIDD, you're gonna see it happen with woof or wust... Woof woof woof. You're gonna see it mainly be used as in...
[1:42:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was a pity that was a pity move.
[1:42:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I'm sorry. I forgot what it was that that that was WFUSD. Yeah. That's what it is. I... WFUD. Yeah.
[1:43:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's it's sounds Why could we use the USD?
[1:43:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I like JPMD. I don't like... It just doesn't roll off the tongue. But either way, they're just gonna use it initially for...
[1:43:17] tsn @tsncrypto: It needs what a t, Lambie.
[1:43:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It does need a t.
[1:43:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're gonna use it initially for institutional trading, right, and conversion likely to start building out the pairs. I don't know what that's gonna look like. Maybe bread does, but it's... It wouldn't be difficult for them to spin up their own blockchains or EVM chains. They could go layer one. They could also just partner with, you know, Hyperliquid or, you know, any number of these things as long as the liquidity is there and the fees are low.
[1:43:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, these banks are building on Canton. Do you guys not know Canton?
[1:43:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. They're they're not gonna be the only one. There's gonna
[1:43:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: be Agreed. But there's gonna be a big chunk of them, bro. I think these banks are gonna get together. It's gonna be consortium of banks that are gonna be like, we need to kinda team up against crypto because ultimately, like, that's really where they're at. Here's what Right? They realize... Yeah.
[1:44:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: What doesn't make sense to me... And and this is where you... And and I've said this before, and I think that most would agree. They're all gonna do the stablecoin issuance for their... For themselves, and then they're all gonna look at each other and go, this is a giant mess. We all have these different stablecoin vectors for the dollar. Why don't we just pick one to be the winner? And we'll all just use that. That's gonna have to happen. Like, there's no way that doesn't happen. And then you can put your bets on USDC because it's American company or USDT because they have the lead unless you're gonna get big daddy Larry coming through and slamming his... You know, on the table and saying, no. We're gonna use this one banks. Right? Maybe maybe it's, you know, JPMD, USDD, you know, because I'd... Actually, that wouldn't be too bad. It kinda rolls off the top. And then he can just, you know, completely monitor the blockchain that you're trading on and countertrade you at every tier.
[1:45:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good stuff. Brett, go ahead.
[1:45:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yes. So a couple of things. Right? EVM chains, spinning them up super easy. Like, most companies will... I mean, at least, like, in CPG and in, like, you know, consumer facing, maybe not in banking, it'll... I think that's more likely to partner with, like, bigger players. But, like, spinning up EVM chains is super, super easy. And it... And this... If you're on a private chain and nothing can leave that chain, then you're a 100% compliant, and legal gives you the thumbs up even though they don't understand any of it. You know? And, it's the quickest path to actual production. Right? There was another question I was gonna ask, but then the one that I was really thinking of. Alright. What... What's up, comma?
[1:45:54] Voice F: Wait. So if it's a private chain, like, does that... I mean, okay. I'm... This may be, like, my stupid side talking, but, like, do do you not expose it to essentially, like, any outside addresses? Right? Like, if I'm trying to transfer my money using this private chain as a customer, then, like, it's it's all internal, essentially, right, basically? Like
[1:46:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Internal KYC ed. And, like, ultimately, there... There'll probably be a swap pool that's approved for only USDC from other bank chains or whatever. You know, just like if you were like, oh, I wanna move my money from Wells to Bank of America to JPMorgan to TD. You know? It's like, go ahead.
[1:46:32] Voice K: I LibertyFi.
[1:46:33] Voice F: So it's There would have to be some middleman type of, integration to essentially go from your private chain to some, I don't know, centralized thing to get to the other private chain, essentially.
[1:46:45] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. It would just be, like, a private, like, swap essentially platform.
[1:46:49] Voice F: What's the point of that then? I don't know. That just seems like extra work.
[1:46:51] Bread @_ToastMalone: Because we're moving the USDC everywhere. Like, that's the only thing that's gonna be used in crypto other than, like, storing things and money and number go up. Right? Everything else that's going to happen in crypto over the next five years will all be just a variation of a USDC. It'll all be stables. And that's, like, what chain?
[1:47:08] Voice F: It's just a reminder of, like, taking a Web two project, like, two, and then making it web three and saying, like, hey. We're a web three YouTube, like, variant. But it's just like it's... Like, what's the difference? Like,
[1:47:18] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, that's the same reason why, like, consumers don't actually pay for the SaaS coverage that Salesforce runs across, like, all of America and every company is running Salesforce. And, like, you don't see those bills. Right? Because it's just, like, tooling that the company's paying for. Right? It's the same shit with this. We'll all go stables, you'd be like, oh, it's as easy as two clicks to go from Wells Fargo to Bank of America with your wrapped Wells Fargo, which would be WWF, by the way, which is awesome, you know, to Bank of America stable. Right? And, like, all all you do is have two clicks, but all the stuff on the back end is private swaps and private exchanges and private routing and, like, all that shit.
[1:47:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: So we're going from bridge to bridge basically.
[1:47:58] tsn @tsncrypto: So we're basically doing the decentralized version, but in in in mainstream finance.
[1:48:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: They just went from the they just went from the laughing stock of the trademark office to WWF. Sweet. Yo. Love this.
[1:48:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what I just
[1:48:12] Bread @_ToastMalone: They're gonna get sued and have to change to WWE, bro.
[1:48:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's gonna be that's gonna be hilarious. Alright. So I just had a a really interesting thought about this because, you know, banks are all... It's all about deposits. Right? That is what banks are fighting for, right, is deposits. And this is gonna be... Whoever takes the lead in deposits could absolutely crush the competition. I mean, they're all in... Interinvested with each other, so it's like one big giant, you know, Ouroboros. But you could totally see how this could potentially be the first mover advantage because if they start really gathering deposits, they're gonna get more investment. More investment means more stablecoin issuance, means that you're moving faster to the the new rails and new system, which means you can tokenize and liquid and provide liquidity faster, which means that you can actually cannibalize the whole market ahead of other players who are moving slower. And I've had this conversation in in, like, a roundabout way with some of these players. Wait. I... I've never talked to any of them. Scratch that. Nope. But one of the one of the key things would be is
[1:49:31] Voice K: Too late. It's recording.
[1:49:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I know. The... I... I'm just thinking, like, who who really has the advantage right now outside of the existing stablecoin issuers, though? Because they already have a vector for issuing and providing liquidity right away. You just go to them. You give them the money. They're gonna issue the token. So I would think that whatever bank just partners with Circle or partners, you know, whatever international bank partners with USDT, they're they're gonna be the outsized winner in this game. How could they not be? It's so much harder to actually just manage that entire book because it's a fractional system that you would then have to move to a one to one back system and then slowly siphon your fractional reserves when you already have an overleveraged book where you don't even have the money to do that with. So it it seems to me Bro,
[1:50:27] Bread @_ToastMalone: that's that's what I've been saying for years that, like, that's going to be the ultimate use of Bitcoin. It's going to be proof of reserves for all of these stable issuers' issuances. Like, it's like how... Yeah. You have to have, like, how many stables are you issuing? It's not gonna be like an LP, like, pegged to the dollar. It's gonna be like, do you have enough Bitcoin that if we were to liquidate your Bitcoin instantly right now by selling all of it at market value, can you cover whatever you're essentially have lended out in stables?
[1:50:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: That did not work for Terra. So I don't know if
[1:50:57] Bread @_ToastMalone: that's
[1:50:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: the
[1:50:57] Bread @_ToastMalone: viable solution. That was algorithmic with Terra.
[1:51:00] tsn @tsncrypto: Yeah. They didn't have any bucking. They didn't... Anyway.
[1:51:02] Voice K: That was not their fault.
[1:51:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Oh, don't. Don't. Oh, jeez. No.
[1:51:06] Bread @_ToastMalone: It was bad math, bro. It was just bad math.
[1:51:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're not Yeah. Gonna go on the team's
[1:51:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: crap with that. You could trade insider information. Tara Tara had a terrible idea that didn't work in practice, which is why they got front run to the lows. Gamer Team zero.
[1:51:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cut him off. Can you please just cut him off already with these jokes? Gamer, what's up? We gotta wrap up. It's twenty after already, but I wanna...
[1:51:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: You didn't like a terrible idea? No.
[1:51:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was...
[1:51:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: I thought Terra Luna was Spanish for SafeMoon.
[1:51:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was terrible. Oh,
[1:51:36] Voice K: yeah. Yeah. SafeMoon. Oh, that's, what was that guy?
[1:51:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's that guy?
[1:51:41] Voice K: Change his hat. Poin... Poinnoy, the the pizza guy. Dave Poinnoy? What
[1:51:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: was that? Oh, yeah.
[1:51:46] Voice K: Oh, yeah. There... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was the SafeMoon guy last cycle. Remember?
[1:51:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. Well, anyways...... About that because he became a he became a...
[1:51:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. He changed his hat....
[1:51:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bitcoiner again.
[1:51:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was actually part of the meme coin that had one of the hats on those tables. I will not say who... What what it was.
[1:52:02] Voice K: You remember? Yeah. He put the Safemoon hat on the table. He's like, I am now a Safemoon. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, nice hot 70 degree day Fahrenheit, in the bay. It's
[1:52:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: If it was Celsius, problems. There's
[1:52:18] Voice K: Yeah. Yeah. I'd be dying, literally dying. But, I'm about to go into the hills and enjoy the view... Panoramic view up here because it's, you know, lovely day. Lot of gas prices....
[1:52:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: The bay.
[1:52:32] Voice K: Actually... Well, no. I'll I'll put that in the group chat because I I do have a alpha play on that.
[1:52:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: On gas prices?
[1:52:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's got that gas.
[1:52:42] Voice K: Yeah. Well well, like I said, I'm in the energy sector, and some of my my my boys, some of my homies let me know about some margin Oh, yeah. Plays.
[1:52:55] Bread @_ToastMalone: Matt and I
[1:52:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: have been talking about
[1:52:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: this. Yeah.
[1:52:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is that what
[1:52:57] Voice K: Looks a little juicy.
[1:52:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, sure.
[1:53:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think we're all on the same wavelength here.
[1:53:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll come in here and make announcements of announcements. Natalie, you can't let this stand. This is crazy. You gotta tell us.
[1:53:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Matt, find Dave for that. Go on, the alpha gamer.
[1:53:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, IMSR is in the title, gamer. Okay? Like, we're giving you all the credit Oh, isn't it? You still showed up twenty minutes late, bro. Oh, actually, an hour... Actually, a hundred and ten minutes late now that I think about it, but it's fine. Oh, I guess the Hills got him.
[1:53:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. The Hills have eyes. They're watching him.
[1:53:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nope. Natalie, you gotta tell him. I'm not telling him.
[1:53:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alpha Gamer, can you do a lap, please? Put forward. We can hear you. Oh, yeah.
[1:53:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nothing nothing
[1:53:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: else that
[1:53:41] Bread @_ToastMalone: also have
[1:53:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: on us either?
[1:53:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: He don't hear you. He don't...
[1:53:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. That was funny. No. That was so
[1:53:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: funny. Somebody put him out of his misery. I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna let this... Something through.
[1:53:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is it flooring rain?
[1:53:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gamer, come back.
[1:54:00] Voice E: Gamer, come back.
[1:54:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was funny.
[1:54:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm just saying...... Did it the right way, and then it completely kicked him out the space. You
[1:54:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: removed him from the space?
[1:54:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I said remove from speaker, I think.
[1:54:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shit. He's not actually speaking out now just for...
[1:54:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. So he's
[1:54:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: getting... He's
[1:54:19] Voice F: messed up.
[1:54:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Get... Gamer, there... It's nothing that we could do, but maybe tomorrow, bro. I gotta I gotta jump. We've been at this two hours already now. Guys, we're not billed for two hours anymore. Okay? Yeah. You are. It's tough. Yeah.
[1:54:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Get you. Yeah. You moisturized? Mean, I I know
[1:54:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: you couldn't take a shower or anything. Manicure manicure manicure manicure manicure
[1:54:36] Bread @_ToastMalone: she say we're doing twenty four hour spaces again? Are we so bad?
[1:54:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hell, yeah. Imagine. Imagine. Imagine. Guys, vote for Jesus, obviously. Per Natalie. Guys, I gotta go soon. That came through already in the chat. So bible study. Alright. Go take care of your kids, you know, your wives, your ex wives, you know, your lovelies, you know, your girlfriends, your mistresses, all the fun... I feel like we need... I need an exit tagline.
[1:55:02] Voice F: You know? You know how, like, Hatsu has, like,
[1:55:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hatsu is here for you? Like, I feel like I need one of those.
[1:55:06] Bread @_ToastMalone: I just Stay classy, San Diego.
[1:55:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: I think it's Hatsu.
[1:55:10] Voice F: It's great.
[1:55:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: They...
[1:55:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Something everybody out here.
[1:55:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: They told everybody over here. They told we told everybody over here. Everybody. But in that case, have a good night. We will see y'all at... For hump day. Oh, go to my pinned post, by the way. I need you guys to vote, please, to wall chain games. We're gonna be going starting on Thursday. We're gonna be making some teams. So if you can, there's a poll up there. Pause all of it. Please go vote on it. Thank you very much, and pay your taxes. Peace.
[1:55:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait for it. Nobody say a word. Go.