The space opened with playful banter about NatNat’s tardiness due to motherhood before diving into March Madness bracket challenges and the near-impossible odds of winning. The conversation quickly shifted to heavy AI discussions, with speakers geeking out over OpenClaw, Grok, multi-agent systems, local models, and NVIDIA’s announcements around compute demand and tokenization. This led into a deep analysis of the SEC’s new interpretive release clarifying when crypto assets are or are not securities, its implications for the Clarity Act, and the current regulatory environment. Bitcoin technical analysis, FOMC expectations, AI bubble risks, mining tax incentives, and light political commentary on the SAVE Act followed. The show ended with gossip about Bonk’s outage, tier lists, and classic nostalgic tangents. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.
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# All Things Crypto (Claw ) | 2026-03-17 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1PKqrEgwNNdGb | status: approved # Speaker names are voice-match candidates, unconfirmed unless marked confirmed. [0:00:04] Voice K: All things crypto. All things crypto. Crypto. [0:00:15] Voice K: I All have things [0:03:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ladies and gentlemen, this is the first time in ATC history that one of the two cohosts are not even here. Neither of them. Not a single one. Oh, look at her. By the time the theme ended, somebody must have tipped her off. It's like she's got a bee. She's gonna give us the excuse of, oh, look. I got a baby at home. Man, I'm a mom. And all this crap. Do you believe this, guys? That's what we're gonna get now. Two minute tardiness. She's gonna tell us, oh, I have another human to take care of as if that's a good enough excuse. You know? The heck. Hey, Natalie. What's up? Good to see you. [0:03:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I bet it is. I bet it is, Dave. And, yes, I do have another human to take care of as if it's a good enough excuse. [0:03:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: How how did the name Dave essentially flip the David? Like, now when you say Dave, I'm like, oh, shit. You call me Dave. This is weird now. What the hell is going on? I'm a little bit scared and a little bit frightened. Shout out miss Rose in the building. I see miss Rose in the building too. Mozz, what up? Ryan, what's cooking? Labbitts, what up? Step big, the engineer. Okay. You guys are kinda slowly filing in. I like this. I like it. Slowly but surely. Slowly but surely. Nat, I guess I'll wait a couple minutes to throw the co host your way. Yeah. Don't worry about it. I'm not Cade. You know what I'm saying? Like, Cade just jumped into your spot or say, like, it was nobody's... He was like, I'm not even gonna think twice about it. Although, way to take my [0:04:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: decision, by the way. Yeah. But you but you know what's funny? I don't think he would have gone into the co host without you sending him an invite, though. Right? [0:04:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's true. But, also, it's a it's a great sacrifice on your part for the greater ATC good because we got to farm his audience for a little while. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, when when when Wolf becomes cohost, then it's like, oh, look. Notifications pop off for everybody. So, hopefully, we expose some new people to to ATC yesterday. Anyways, we we we... When when do we start getting paid for this? Like, really paid for this? What the hell? Bread, what's good, bro? [0:05:20] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo, GM. You know, just, just going around everywhere I can and submitting my perfect bracket for March Madness so I can win the billion dollars from Kalshi and then the various other, you know, tens of thousands from all of the other places. [0:05:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: Just filling out yet, bro? [0:05:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brett is literally convinced that he's actually going to win, like, a bracket, which, by the way, the odds, in case nobody has realized this, is one in 9.2 quintillion or quintillion. Excuse me. Not quadrillion, but quintillion. [0:05:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you're saying there's a chance? [0:06:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. That's exactly the emoji that Brett... The gift that Brett put in the chat the second I said that. But now here's the thing. Let me just put this in perspective. There's less grains of sand on planet Earth than there are, like, actual odds of you winning this. Meaning, like, there's less than 9.2 quintillion grams of same... Of sand. Now if you try to actually win this thing, which is virtually impossible, which is why they're putting up a billion dollars, Somebody actually almost did it in 20... What was it? 14? 49 games out of the 64 and a four... A game 50 overtime buzzer beater. And the perfect bracket was busted. But you guys have a better shot at randomly finding a random grain of sand anywhere on planet Earth and being like, oh, is this the one that you were talking about? Like, a magic trick than actually picking a perfect bracket. [0:07:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, I did draw a grain of sand. So, bread, you've you've you've got a shot. [0:07:10] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You know, anytime I go to the beach, I find sand in my car for weeks, like, weeks and weeks. You know? It's like there's no shortage of it. You know? Like, I was in a space earlier. Right? And... Hon. Let me be clear. Like, I I am, you know, manifesting this to happen, but, like, I'm not a complete crazy person in general. Right? Like, the odds of this happening are beyond, like, low. Right? I mean, I would say, right, the only advantage I have is that, like, I built an agent to do this last year and just never released it. And so I compared last year's outputs to this year's, you know, like, predictions, essentially. But, like, last year, it didn't win either. You know, even, like, because we didn't release it. Like, I ran it still, and it didn't win. You know? So, like, we'll see. But, like, I was in a space earlier. Someone goes, just have an agent fill out, like, a bracket every second. And I was like, bro, quint... Like, quintillion? Like [0:08:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: We didn't learn that far in school, bro. Math didn't go [0:08:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: up Yeah. Until But some people didn't learn about numbers or anything or time in general. Right? So, like, I was just like, hold on. Let me find this out. I pinned it up top there. It would take... What did it say there? 292,000,000,000 to fill out that many brackets. So, again, a good perspective on how low my odds are of winning this. [0:08:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: By the way, I am in no way, shape, or form shitting on your attempt at doing this. I am actually applauding it. I just wanted to make it clear to the audience of what an impossible feat it would be if you actually did this. I kinda came up with that part at the end. But... But, bro, if it gets close [0:08:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: if it gets close enough, I could probably sell the bot for some some good money. Right? Like, maybe not a billion. But, like, if it gets real close and still loses, like, there's something there. [0:09:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a fact. That is a fact. Natalie, as our parents would say, let's make sure we go play the lotto too. Anyways, Marnie, what's up? How are you? [0:09:13] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I am great. I am great. I just watched Jensen Wong's thing on NemoClaw, and so now all of our problems with OpenClaw are history. And he said that this was the most important thing since HTML, and every company should have an open claw strategy. So there you go. I'm a happy girl. And if you wanna watch it, I put it up in the Jumbotron. [0:09:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yo. Binder's fees to anybody that wants to, you know, have me go install Openclaw for people, bro. Like like Me [0:09:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: too. Easy. [0:09:56] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Me too. [0:09:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Marnie's such a fucking nerd, and I love it. Like, Marnie, you're the biggest open claw nerd I know, and I genuinely love it. I just started diving in yesterday to Jen's spark claw because, like, I'm an idiot, and I need the simple things because I'm a security nightmare for myself. And it's been incredible. Like, I literally, like, am... I'm starting to, like, do the productivity stuff, but I'm gonna really start opening this thing up to really see, like, what it can do. And it's been really, really cool so far. Like, really cool. Like, simple things. You know what mean? Like, nothing too too crazy, but I'm gonna really start turning up the heat on a lot of the automations, video creation, productivity stuff. I'm not venturing into trading just yet, but, you know, website creation. The simple... Like, the one o ones of, of when... Like, your first day of creating, like, an agent in automations. Like, that's kinda what I did, but it's, it's exciting. [0:10:51] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: What you wanna do. You wanna do. Start start small, you know, and and that's how to become comfortable with it. That's how to become confident with it. Just start with something you know. [0:11:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. I was talking to my sister last night, and, like, she's a, she's a teacher in in elementary school. Right? And I was just like, look at what you could do with this. And she was like, it could just create my entire curriculum for me? I'm like, yeah. Lessons... Lesson plans, ideas, the whole nine yards. She's an art teacher. And I'm like, you could literally have this thing planned out... Everything out for you for... Over the next two weeks. She's like, this is amazing. Mhmm. And we were talking to it via voice notes on Telegram, which is even better. She's like, can you talk back to me on voice notes? And I'm like, yeah. I I haven't configured that yet, but, of course, I can. [0:11:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: For sure. [0:11:37] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Oh, and you know what? I switched it over. Remember in the last couple of ones we were talking about which one I actually... I I ended up running Grok 4.2, the latest latest version. Right? And I couldn't get the multi agent to work, but just like the the fast agent... The fast version works. And I love it because it's sassy just like Grok is. It's sassy and it's smart as f, and it's actually relatively cheap compared to Claude and OpenAI, just so you know. [0:12:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Very interesting. Good tidbits. I love this. And this is where, like, at the end of this, like, I'm just starting to get this now. I feed it the transcript. I just read the transcript before this space started from yesterday. Oh my god. It's amazing what it pulls out. Like, it's incredible. And it's gonna format it all, like, the threads, the tweets. ATC is just gonna gonna level up a little bit so, like, people can start engaging. Yeah. [0:12:34] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: You need to see the latest. I actually just dropped a new course. It's called, from live to leads, and it's all about how I post produce all of my spaces and the audio clips and everything. [0:12:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, I mean API? [0:12:53] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: The lurky... Yeah. [0:12:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not the API. [0:12:55] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Their API does not support it, but my OpenClaw, I just pointed at the directory that has the videos in it. It creates all of the content notes and everything. And, yeah, you have to check it out. Was pretty cruel. [0:13:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that. Yeah. I've been seeing a lot of Grok on the time. And, guys, we're gonna get into the crypto stories in a second. I promise you. Let's just... Let us geek out for a hot second. I've seen a lot of Grok, like, can interpret your videos now. Right? Like, I saw a few Elon tweets where it's just, like, feed it a video, and it'll tell you exactly what's going on. I watched Skoble's video from the NVIDIA conference, and I was just like, what... Like, literally just, like, a random video that he took with posters on the wall that you could barely even see. And Grok was, like, zeroing in on them, cross referencing them with, like, you know, what's on the NVIDIA website. It's nuts. And NVIDIA came out and said there's going to be... Brad, we were talking about this yesterday, a trillion dollar demand for compute by 2027. That's next year, bro. And NVIDIA says they're going to be a trillion dollar revenue company. That is insane. [0:13:57] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: You know what NVIDIA also said that I that I thought was really, really important for everybody to pay attention to is every company will become a token generator, and the new currency will become tokens. I'm like, oh, really? [0:14:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it, ladies and gentlemen. You thought... Like, you've been preparing for this your entire shitcoin career, ladies and gents. Okay? Alright? We're launching shitcoins left and right. This is how it's gonna work from now on. Alright? So everybody just prepare yourself. We don't have clarity act yet. Alright? Might be dead, but we will launch shitters into oblivion. Let's go. Anyways, I feel like anyways is my new thing. Every time I'm like, yeah. That's, my closer. Landy, you like that one? It's like, yeah. Anyways, moving on. Thanks, buddy. What's up, puppet? You good? [0:14:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Hi. I am here. I am listening to the wonderful musings about AI technology with all of you, and I have some thoughts. And those thoughts are probably gonna lead me on a rant. Please, bro. Tangent. Landy. Not even a tangent. [0:15:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Transcript from yesterday. Lit... My my genspark claw literally said, this was the Landy episode. I shit you not. That's great. I will... I swear to god. It was like, this was the... He was like, this is this is the Landy episode. I'm like, even the even the Open Claw knows that it was the Landy episode. My gosh. It's the Open Claw's reading this. Landy, come on. [0:15:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know you know what's funny? So I know everybody's really hot on claw and Open Claw and claw this, claw that, claw everything, claw your eyes out. I wanna claw my ears out hearing so much about claw. I love it. I do. I really do. But also, you know, what's funny is there is other APIs that you can hook into that are actually cheaper than Clawd. And it's funny that you brought Grok up because [0:16:04] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Well, Openplot has nothing to do with Claude. You know that. Right? [0:16:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. I know. But its its main... Its its incubation came out of Claude. [0:16:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Right? It's become household name just by default because, like, of the jump off and how it got started. [0:16:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. And and most that are are running models under... Underpinning it are running models that are are hooked into Claude on the back end. So, like, if you're looking at some of the recent acquisitions, most of them are trying to also do deals on the back end with the Claude... What the hell... Anthropic. And what's interesting in that space is there's there's now a a real runaway freight train behind the scenes, I think, that we're gonna start seeing crop up in the news pretty soon regarding x AI. Now you heard some of the stuff about how they were getting integrated into DOW, DOD stuff, But it's far... It... It's actually far bigger than that because, typically, what a lot of these companies do, and just about every company, every corporate company that is a US based company is involved with the government in some way via contracts. And it's... It it... What a lot what a lot of people don't really realize is that the Anthropic deal getting kinda booted out is way bigger. Right? And I think because of the narrative kind of was incubated via Claude and a lot of people use it as the back end, it's it's gonna be interesting to see how things shift, especially as more people are now aware that you can use the smaller models that you can run locally with it. Right? So this is something that when you talk about a company like NVIDIA that had this big press conference, by the way... So you you saw Homeboy's video where, you know, Grock was doing, like, really impressive stuff with pulling information out of the video. Right? I'll tell you that I've fed it my video for my analysis, and it's still not great. It's still not there yet. In fact, none of them really are. Because when you get really granular and there's a ton of information on the screen, it's very hard for them to parse. So then it'll... It leans on the voice to text. Right? So it's taking my voice and then translating it to text. And if I'm looking at something different on the screen but talking about a different subject, it kinda gets a [0:18:56] chromatique @chromatique: little grooving. [0:18:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It can't OCR at the same time transcribing. But if you break them up into different tasks, it can actually do it. Right? If you just tell it what to focus on, it can, like, literally strip away or whatever. But, yeah, it's clunky. Like like... Yeah. A 100... I agree with you a 100%. It's clunky. [0:19:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's it's not quite there yet. And I actually was mentioning this on on Cade Space, and it was... It's essentially that we are at this weird point in crypto and this weird point in AI where, you know, I even compared this the other day to the last mile problem during the dot com bubble. Right? You had all of this innovation, all this cool stuff, like, legitimately cool stuff that was being built during the dot com run up. All these companies that launched and a ton of excitement, and what the real problem was is the end user problem. And the way in which that this is now... We've seen kind of the narrative run. Right? Like, the last mile problem, by the way, for most people is people still face connectivity issues. They couldn't actually connect or it was very slow, so they couldn't use any of the robust web web applications that were being built or websites that were being built. And, you know, we had the tech, but it really wasn't even really usable until well after the dot com bubble burst. And we started to solve that last mile problem. We have this same problem in crypto and AI, and I'm glad that you brought up the tokenized everything because everything's gonna be a damn token. Might as well wrap it on the blockchain at some point as well. And then you have the natural crypto to AI kind of rails that are the future and will be the future. And this is something where when you look at some of the... Here's some of the structural issues that I think you should pay attention to because the tech is gonna continue to advance and be cool. But in the marketplace, you have now out of that event from NVIDIA, the DLSS five. Complete flop with the public audience, but tech people loved it because they just viewed as more AI slop, and the backlash even hit their stock prices today. So, you know, there's... It's gonna be interesting to see how the landscape shifts when things actually correct like in NVIDIA, which is the main... They're they're just fully AI now. They're they're going so hard into AI on the in... On the infrastructure and institutional level that they've left retail behind, and we're we're in kind of the same place in crypto. So we're in for a massive sea change and shift, and I'm wondering if it's going to involve solving that last mile. And whoever does it's gonna get huge. Like, they're probably gonna get bought and then get huge. [0:21:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, if anybody thinks NVIDIA is is anything other than an AI company at this point in any sense of that word... [0:22:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I can't wait to short them, man. The chart looks almost ready for good shorts. [0:22:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: If if... You let me know when you do that because the... I will then give you the award for the biggest balls of steel [0:22:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Got ever. [0:22:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm just saying that's not a... [0:22:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's not a fun one. [0:22:21] Bread @_ToastMalone: Wonder Woman balls of steel. I'm I'm sure [0:22:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: at some point, guys, but, literally, like, we've heard this... I've heard this so many times. Right? Like, oh my god. Oh my god. Like, AI bubble. AI... This is not... Like, remember what, like, all these... Like, this consortium that got together now. Right? Like, x AI, all of these monsters, right, essentially came together and said, we're gonna be paying for our own power. Like, we're gonna be creating an... Our own energy source or our own energy rather, and, like, to power the shit that we have or that that we plan on doing so that it doesn't go back to, like, the average, like, everyday consumer slash taxpayer or whatever. [0:22:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Which point. Counterpoint, though. And here's here's something that that is really important to understand is that what we're seeing is a lot of forced application of it at a much higher level. Like, you guys are all participating in the really cool stuff. Right? But at the much higher level, it's being foisted upon the market in a way in which the market doesn't really care for, and I think that it's gonna be a building narrative. You had Silicon Valley tech companies for many years that everybody thought was infallible. And then, of course, you know, o eight came and crushed them, and then we had, you know you know, '15 into into '16 was a nice correction, and you have the same thing happen in '21 into '22. This will happen again to some of the biggest players on the planet, and we... One of the big things that I'm very cautious about right now with the AI sector is that it's not revenue generating in the way that it needs to be to support the kind of PE ratios that we're seeing. So... 100%, bro. [0:24:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, that's a that's a fine because... Bro, I I watched the whole interview with what's his name, the anthropic founder. Right? And it was just like, they're... Like, the money that they're barely... Like, they're making is peanuts compared to what it's costing them to just continuously now train new models. But it's like, at what point does this does this, like, okay. The jig is up now. So now I hear what you're saying where it's like, I can't wait to short all these things. It's gonna come to [0:24:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: that point. And, also, you guys you guys have to keep in mind the market is forward looking. Right? Especially a company that has NVIDIA that has literally priced in everything up to the eyeballs. Right? So even though, yes, they're doing amazing things, we're all getting excited about it. Keep in mind, a lot of what we're seeing is price points. [0:25:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. And and when they dry up in terms of sales of new cards, all it takes is one miss, and that can start the roll downhill. And when you have... NVIDIA was built by gamers. I kinda brought this up before, but it was built by gamers. It was a graphics card company innovating in the graphics realm. Right? And they have shifted entirely away from them to the point where it's causing issues in console development, which is systemic through different companies like your your Xbox and, you know, Sony, which already moved to to AMD processors and stuff like that. But, you know, there... There's competition. But when one goes down in in the market conditions like that, it's taking everything with it on the unwind. The only reason that I bring this up is not because I'm looking for this to fail or it's gonna fizzle out or anything like that. No. It's gonna... I think that that's when we're gonna see the real innovation begin. Because once we see a larger correction, many of these companies are gonna lose out on a lot of money, which is gonna force them to do things like open sourcing and more open sourcing of this stuff so they can run smaller models locally, which some are already working on and doing with older versions and stuff like that. But the fact of the matter is in order to become the powerhouse that is going to really bring things forward, a lot of this stuff needs to be needs to be open source models that people are running on their own. Because even if they're building up their own power, they still face the issue of time. Right? Because it takes time to build all of this, whether it's data centers, whether it's getting... Whether it's paying for their own power by building up power substations and how are you gonna power it, who are gonna partner with, that's... It's great. I love that they're doing it, and I think that it's needed. That's why they would also need to get all the money shoved in now so they could take and spend it and then Yeah. And then worry about it later. [0:27:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? And, Landy and, Landy, this is the other thing. And then and then I'm gonna tie this into the opening story. Like, it's... This is gonna make sense, guys. I promise you this was for a reason. But, like, when when you look at... Like, if you think crypto was bad when we were like, oh, it's the wild wild west out here. Like, like, what we're gonna talk about next is literal... At least the SEC, CFTC, like, there's, like, structure bills now, right, like, being passed. There's clarity. No pun intended. Right? Like, you actually now can tell the difference between what securities are and what they're not. Like like, what makes up a security and what doesn't. Right? That was released today. We can talk about tokenization. Right? There's literally, like, visible clarity in writing. If you think that AI, that crypto was the wild west, I don't know what's what's crazier than the wild wild west. Like, this is literally caveman times where people are literally gonna be clubbing each other over the head and bringing their their their their man, their woman, whatever, like, back to the cave. I don't know how that made any sense whatsoever, but primitive is what [0:28:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm trying to with it, Dave. With it. Yeah. Guess. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't Dave, I'll be honest. When you said Wild Wild West, I I really am just thinking of the movie with Will Smith and then then AI powers steam steam spider, basically. It's steam hot spider. Yeah. Yeah. [0:28:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like... But but this is my point. Right? Like, we were all like, oh my god. Like, it's crazy in the NFT game in 2021, and look how far we've come in five years. Right? Like, an AI when... And there was nowhere near this amount of money in crypto. Right? Like, nowhere near. Like... And when you look at where AI is now, if you guys think that it was crazy in crypto, you have no idea what's coming, like, for for for AI. Like, there is no... These... Like, congress doesn't even know, like, probably 90% of what these things can actually do, that they're probably just taking pieces of paper and reading them from their aides right before they go into a freaking senate hearing or whatever, and they're not really... The majority of them aren't taking the time to really understand what the hell is going on here. Because I was the same way when we were in spaces being like, I'm not trying to have no ethics conversation. God. Yeah. I wanna talk about the cool shit. Ethics. God. Forget that. And when you literally just take the training wheels off and it's like, like, go nuts. Poof. It's gonna it's gonna be... It's it's gonna get crazy. Yeah. Nat, go ahead. [0:29:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, one, ethics and crypto. I don't... We still have to figure out that relationship. It's more like a situationship. [0:29:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. They can be a set of markets in general, to be honest. [0:29:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's true. It was more a comparison of what I was trying to say, like, in terms of where we are, but, like, not saying that crypto [0:29:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yeah. [0:29:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Let's let's start with one... Yeah. Go ahead. [0:29:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I did wanna add. So far in the space, favorite part of this space has been when Mandy said so much claw, I wanna club. I'm his brother. But I get it. Some people are really putting it to work and using it to their advantage and do something like that. [0:30:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I... If I'm being honest also, I feel like my Marco Rubio open claw meme didn't, like, cook as much as I really want... Like, guess, should have. You know? [0:30:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: I feel like Saint Patrick's Day, and and, honestly, Fred stole the thunder by posting the [0:30:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's so good. [0:30:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Marco Rubio. [0:30:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's great. That was great. But, like, Marco Rubio in a in a in a lobster costume is amazing. But, anyways, alright. We digress. So let... Let's kinda tie this in so you guys know that we're not all absolutely crazy, but, this was put out on the SEC, Twitter handle official press release. The commission issued an interpretation that clarifies the application of federal securities laws to crypto assets. Major step to provide greater clarity regarding the commission's treatment of crypto assets. Here's the breakdown of exactly... And and let's maybe just... I'll read, like, the quick the quick version. So what the SEC actually did, they issued... And I'm reading this directly. Right? Like, after the breakdown, issued an interpretive release saying that crypto analysis should start by separating the asset itself from the transaction or scheme around it. It created a taxonomy of crypto assets and said that many crypto assets can be nonsecurities even though the way they are marketed, sold, or packaged can still create an investment contract under securities law. Then the CFTC joined the interpretation and said it will administer the commodity exchange act consistently with it. And the five buckets that the SEC highlighted was one, digital commodities, generally not securities. Digital collectibles, generally not securities. Digital tools, generally not securities. Certain Genius Act payment stablecoins, not securities. And then finally, tokenized securities, Obviously, those are securities. And the SEC also expressly said a nonsecurity token can become wrapped to the... In an investment contract and later stop being subject to that contract when the issuer's promise are either... Promises are either fulfilled or failed. That is one of the biggest practical shifts in the release, which I think is real... Like, that showed that these guys understand this business and this space. Right? Like, they get, like, what the use cases are and what people have done in the past and what they'll probably create in the future. So I love this, man. Nat, you like this? And then I'll I'll I'll check-in with Landy and the rest of the crew here. [0:32:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I I do. And I and and I think in in Dairo, man, I I think people are finally starting to understand crypto and how it works and how it moves. And I think this is just one pivot point... One positive point in the right direction for crypto in general. And I I I was on a space, I believe it was Monday. We were talking about all of the amazing things that crypto has working in its favor, and I think it's so beautiful to see how crypto has come now. Like, remember a few years ago when we were kinda just going back and forth, is it a security? Is it not? Is it a security? Is it now? And and and and I think now it's beautiful that we kinda have some clear guidelines. There's somewhat of a clear guideline. It's somewhat of a clear... Of a structure, quote, unquote, going forward. So I I like this. I like this a lot. [0:33:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Lindy, go weigh in. Not seven hours, please. You're killing Lindy. [0:33:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, we need this to really send a signal to congress to actually incorporate this into the framework of the Clarity Act. Right? And this is this is kinda taking the best pieces of Clarity and of the the other bill out of the AG committee. But it still does not clearly define how they're gonna handle DeFi. That is part of a wider set of issues. You know, they have the latitude to kind of adjust on the fly. But once clarity is passed, they have to work within that framework as well. So what they're trying to do is lay the groundwork by providing some guidance ahead of time. So shout out to doctor Atkins. He's cutting the fat. He's working out real hard with with doctor Selig and really trying to nail this down so that congress actually has something to reference when they're having these discussions outside of the the the silly arguments, side arguments that are derailing things right now. So, hopefully, this will lead to some adjustments made to the Clarity Act and then that getting pushed through to actually hit the administration's desk. It wouldn't be signed by Trump. Right? Like, that's... Reality is if it doesn't happen now, it's probably gonna be a while, and then we're just under this administration's interpretation and this SEC's interpretation and CFTC's interpretation, which could change an an administration change coming up in '28 if there was one. Right? Yep. And that's... This is still... I I think it's great, but it's great for the next three three years and eight months. Three years and eight and a half months? Great. We better get a lot done. [0:35:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, we we said it from jump. If you got elected, like, this is it. Like, so you better, like, work his ass... But he's doing it, bro. Like, he better work his ass off to try and ingrain all of this so deep into the fabric of, like like, our, like, our infrastructure, our society, whatever word you wanna use. But I think he's doing it, bro. He really is doing it. [0:35:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: He he is from the executive side, and congress is really painting a bad picture for the electorate because they want to, you know, campaign. And this is this is the problem. If it... And this was my issue with it because it didn't get done last year and under the original proposal, which would have set up a really solid framework. Instead, they got... They all stuck their hands in the cookie jar and decided they were gonna put all their special interest BS in it, And that's what stalled it so that they can keep the the focus to their their constituents who are interested in where this is going and point the finger at the administration when in reality, Trump already signed the executive orders, and he's already given instructions and put the people in place that are driving the industry forward. And it's congress now sitting on their stupid fat butts that are doing nothing. You can tell I'm a little frustrated by this. [0:36:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: How do I think of, [0:37:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: oh I know. Fat, man. [0:37:02] Voice K: --. [0:37:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I I could go on, like, an hour's long run. I would probably open... Not here. I'm gonna probably open a late night with Landy, have a nice little drink and a cigar, and just [0:37:13] Ryan @Rlad1776: That's fair. [0:37:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let it rip on this particular subject because I don't care anymore. There's meetings. I don't care if I get in trouble for exposing what was in some of these meetings because these people are disgusting, and all they want is your vote to get in office and hold things up so that you vote for them again. And it's really, really... It's it's disgusting. They're disgusting none. They're they're... They are the leeches of society, and you should hate them. [0:37:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, look. At the end of the day, like, we we always say, like, we control... You know? Like, it's in your power to, like... You know, you you choose your elected representatives, but it's just like, these motherfuckers have been in there so long. Landy, I'm not gonna... No. No. No. No. I I take it back. I... [0:37:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold Hold on. [0:38:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: That they will not get your vote if they don't do the right thing, then they will change. They will shift with the winds. The problem is right now is not a huge part of their electorate really is... Has any understanding of what's going on. Alright? So they can kinda get away with Poland's stupid stuff. So if you get involved and the more people that get involved, the more pressure is put on them and says, like, this is now becoming a larger part of my electorate. I need to actually take care of this issue on their behalf, or I'm not gonna get back in office, and I won't be able to insider trade anymore. [0:38:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exact... The best part was when the vote came out to essentially say, should you guys... What was it? Like, the guys that were voting to essentially, like, make public the the sexual harassment records of all, like, members of congress. It's like you... The people that are being essentially, like, who are in that list and in... Are the ones voting on, like, nah. We should we should let that out. Yeah. Obviously, there's a, yeah, massive double standards at the end of the day, but, anyways, here we are. Okay. Let me go back to... Because I've literally... I've lost myself scrolling, endlessly on a lot of different things. I just saw so many crazy stories. But, Nat, give us kinda the, there... There's a couple of just, like, headline stuff like PayPal now in 70 countries, which is kinda wild. I had no idea that some US bank... A good chunk of, like, monster US banks were building on ZK Sync. Not... But give us kinda, like, the BTC kinda play. I saw it hit 76 k today. Kinda got rejected. I saw a Landy's meme where it's like, is this bull like a cow just like a cow dressed up as a bull or laughing... LARPing as the bull? What what what are we doing? Are we higher higher or no no? Lower lower? [0:39:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, we have to take it level by level. Right? Because if it it did reject, it's at 76. But if it's able to hold the range highs, I think, we can see higher. Obviously, we're looking at a retest of 76. Above that, I'm looking at 78. Above that, 80, 83. There is some liquidity building on spot all the way up between one zero three and one zero five, which is actually very, very interesting. Right? But at the same time, there is very heavy liquidity building down below as well. K? So let's say, for example, if this move to the upside fails, right, what areas are we looking at? I'm looking at 72. If 72 doesn't hold, I'm looking at seven... 70 to 71. Remember, 71 was a big area to the upside. Now we need to retest that. If that fails, we're looking at 69 to 68. There is a big pocket of liquidity at $6,930.03. If that breaks, there is a huge, chunk on the perp side at $65,400, and it is a buy... It's not a sell order, though. It is a buy order at $65,400, which will be interesting to see what we do, what the price action is once we get to that level. Right? With tomorrow being f one c, I think now, these levels matter more than ever. Right? Because let's say, for example, if we do get f one... Once we get f one c and we see price wait to the upside, okay, we need to know which levels to look out for, right, where the rejection could be. Right? So let's say if we go ahead and revisit 76 and we reject off there and it's a strong rejection, then automatically, we need to look at the 72 range. We need to look at 71 to 70 and kinda know where the liquidity is at the bottom in order to help gauge or guide us through, certain things that's to come for tomorrow. Let's say we do get a positive moment, we get some volume, and we get some some follow through, and we're able to successfully break towards the upside, then the liquidity at the top would matter. Right? There is a... Like I said, right, there... We got a lot of the liquidity that was at the top yesterday with that move to the upside, but there's still some at eighty and eighty... Around 80 to 83 k. I wouldn't rule out a 86, 90, 93, all the way up. There's a big pocket, like I said, between $10.03 and $10.05. So I think BTC overall is at a very, very interesting area right now. Right? Because if we do go ahead and get all of the liquidity, then at some point, then we could no longer say that BTC is in a downtrend, at least on on the short term time frame. Right? Then at at some point, it'll be a break of trend in order to continue to get the liquidity up at the top. Right? But as it remains, there there... When it comes to the heaviest or which way... Which one weighs more as of now, the liquidity to the downside is definitely heavier. But I think because of what's going on right now and liquidity building on both sides, playing it... And FOMC coming in tomorrow, I think playing it level by level is going to be e... And detrimental if you're trading. [0:43:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Okay. Detrimental if you're trading. Yeah. I mean, you guys gotta keep your eye out on all this stuff, man. If you're not if you're not as in tune as Nat, right, like, then I I don't know how you trade if you don't have all of that information. But, yeah, like, great stuff, Nat. Really, really great stuff. Mandy, I would go to you, but you're just gonna say what Nat said. So we're just gonna move on to the next story. And plus, you've chose verbal violence over the last, like, two days. No. Never. [0:43:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I would never choose violence. And, also, you said Nat has the right the right take on this. I will add that... To what Nat was saying in that the Fed unlikely to change rates and understand that they're unlikely to change those rates in the future as well because we have the... Even if oil comes right back down, which it looks like it could potentially after maybe a little bit more plumbing of the highs, If it does come back down violently, everybody's gonna get excited that, oh, hey. You know, inflation will come down with it, and then they'll start cutting right away. Well, to be quite honest, that lag period from that higher pricing in oil will have a latent effect on the numbers. So that's what they're gonna be evaluating tomorrow and next month. So... [0:44:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. 99... They say, statistically, 99.2% chance the Fed will not cut rates at this week's March 18 meeting. And then Trump comes out and says, even a fifth grader would know that cutting rates would be the smart move here, idiot. He's up to Jerome Powell. [0:44:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's not wrong, though, if you wanna get ahead of things. But he's wrong in that they're gonna look at the old data and be like, nah. Nah. NG spiked really hard, so we're we're not gonna cut because that data is coming in from the winter. And then they're gonna say, nah, next month because they will spike. [0:45:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: And, also, the fact that Google searches are at all time highs for can't sell house is probably not it's probably not helping the overall, like, situation out here. But, I mean, yeah, lower rates for people. I mean, can't sell house. People are not trying to buy houses, but, you know, incoming [0:45:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: houses cash. They're gonna thread the needle. I'll tell you this. To... It's different than what Nat was saying. They're gonna have to thread the needle with lower rates because there's a bunch of private credit that needs to roll over, and it's already killing some of these larger companies that have private credit arms and, private equity. And if that doesn't roll because of the the executive order and then guidance from the treasury where Scott Pacenta said, you're not putting toxic assets into retirements or you're gonna get you're gonna get your cards pulled. Right? And then now they have nowhere to go, so they're stuck. And they're sitting on a bunch of defaults. They need to roll that debt, and that's gonna require lower rates for them to roll because they're already at low rates. They just bloated their balance sheets. And if they're gonna roll, they need more runway. So it's gonna be a thread the needle situation. That's why everybody's paying very close attention to the markets and oil specifically right now. And if it comes back down to some prior levels, which it has a high percentage chance to do, the the the globe is very different when looking at supply and demand and production of where oil is coming from. So it's a very fluid situation and politics aside. We're in a good position here in The United States, but the rest of the world is not when it comes to supply of oil. And that means bad things for the global economy, which has a systemic effect on everyone that's invested in all the garbage, private equity, and private credit here in The United States. It's about ready to blow up. So, you know, hey. Let's have fun if it does all blow up. We can we can celebrate. [0:47:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. The friends you made along the way, guys. The friends you made along the way. Alright. Yeah. [0:47:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yesterday's price is not today's price. [0:47:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Price. That's for damn sure, bro. That is for damn sure. I know... I saw Kanter came up. Kanter, real quick... Before I I come to you about, like, what's new in the Hedera ecosystem, Nat, I saw... I kinda I kinda clowned LJ in the in the comments because he said, GM fam, even Clarkson loves Hedera. And I'm like, who? I don't even know who Clarkson is. Is that, like, the Australian [0:47:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Kelly Clarkson? [0:47:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Woah. Kelly Clarkson. Yeah. LJ, I don't know who that is, bro. Yeah. You know what mean? Like, I... I'm American. We don't know geography, like, world, like, you know, world events. You know what I'm saying? Like, we we don't do that. We sit [0:47:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: in a little bubble. Jeremy Clarkson? Is this... Jeremy Clarkson. [0:47:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jordan Clarkson on the Knicks. That's the only Clarkson that I know. But, yeah, let me let me check-in with Cantor. Cantor, what's good, man? What's cooking in the in the Hereda ecosystem, bro? [0:48:06] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: So much. I mean, just... I mean, you probably saw the securities announcement, but not just Sedera, but a bunch of tokens. Did you guys talk about that already? [0:48:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. We did. Oh, [0:48:16] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: okay. Yeah. I mean, this Thursday, we have pitch competition. $100 Dave. If you wanna come by, it'll be pretty cool. 12PM eastern. Nat Nat, Landy, Marty, Brad, you guys are all welcome. $100 on the line. And by the way, we have a 250 that's going on right now. And one of the bounties is $8,000 for building on HOL's registry. So I I think it's a pretty cool opportunity for folks, especially if you like live coding. And it... So you've got, like, six ish days at this point to still submit, which is plenty of time, especially if you you are good at those live coding tools to put something together. [0:49:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brad, what are we doing, bro? Like, we're out here working for the zybers and all the fucking rugs out here, like, that literally don't pay us shit. They don't have money. Herrera has money. [0:49:13] Bread @_ToastMalone: We're masochists, bro. I think that's just what it is. [0:49:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. Like, why? [0:49:18] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: There's... Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of things they got. But I'd say right now, there's, like, so many hackathons going on. Hedera is a really good place to participate when it comes to hackathons. We do our pitch competitions too, which is a good way to brush up on your skills and so forth. Definitely recommend just getting involved, exploring, and building some stuff. [0:49:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: If anybody wants to partner with a puppet on a pitch, bring me what you got. [0:49:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you really gonna snipe me on this right now? Like, this is my shtick. This is not your shtick. This is mine. I literally just [0:49:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: said, you dare.... All day. Don't you dare snipe snipe snipe.... Is listen to pitches. [0:49:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't [0:49:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: care.... Good at at doing it too. [0:50:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. [0:50:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. I got the dankest green you've ever seen. Mhmm. [0:50:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course, he said it's green. I was going more the white route, but, anyways... No. Not what he's saying. He's trying to snipe bread from me because he knows that when Cantor talks about Hedera, right, like, in all of these amazing hackathons that they do, I said, bread. Like, Hedera will actually pay us unlike all the projects that we work for. You know what I'm saying? Like, why do we not just do this? Like, Cantor [0:50:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: is always you pitch. I I [0:50:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: want free. I want... Shut up, you. You stop it. This is not your moment to shine. I'm afraid [0:50:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: for you. For you. I'll partner with you. You... I'll help you for [0:50:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: So maybe we could do the three of us. It'll be a nice little throuple. But Yeah. For the record, Cantor has always seen me. [0:50:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've won two pitch competitions. [0:50:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm actually my way. I'm set my way. Okay? [0:51:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Denver's in. Yeah. Cantor has always paid me for the record on time, like, no question. [0:51:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: How much did he pay you to say that? [0:51:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. He paid me... He owed me... I won two pitch competitions. You know, Brad, I think it's time that we have a serious sit down. And if the puppet wants to be involved, fine. We'll let the puppet be involved. Maybe he'll bring a little bit value somewhere. I don't know where. [0:51:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: But Wow. The puppet Oh, I'll help you with the one pagers. Okay? [0:51:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's leave the pitch I [0:51:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: need a good radiograph. Could you help me with one of those? [0:51:32] Shaksi @shaksi: A what? [0:51:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't even know what that is. A radiograph? [0:51:35] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's useless. It's what it is. [0:51:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Don't, yeah, don't go into a diatribe. Like, please, guys. Which vertical are you aiming for? Yeah. No. [0:51:43] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's radial. All [0:51:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: of them. [0:51:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. The radial verticals? [0:51:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's it's it's it's analog. It's AM. You know? That's what it is. That's what I took from that. But, Kanter, great stuff, man. Feel free to obviously pin up any of the hackathon stuff, you know, to the to to the nest. We'd love for maybe some people to get involved, especially, like, in the age of vibe coding now, like you're saying. If it's, like, conducive to vibe coders that can maybe, you know, kinda fuck around and maybe build something, that would be really, really cool. So if they could, you know, take home a little bit of money money. But wait. How does the 250,000 break up, by the way? [0:52:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: 10% my way and then 90% we share the money. [0:52:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: You should be getting paid by Hedera at this point. I don't know how you ain't getting paid by Hedera. That's crazy. [0:52:25] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I mean, the... Well, Matt, have you tried applying to some of the ambassador programs and stuff that they've done? Know that. Right? But there's... I think they've got three tracks, and it's divvied up between those three tracks. And there's between... There's, like, what first place, second, and third between all those. So that's how it kinda shakes out. Plus the bounties, it's a winner takes all if you win a bounty. 8,000 per... If you win one of those. And before I head out here too, you know, Dave, digital assets summit's gonna be here in New York, and it's, like, a week from now. I'm gonna be checking out some of the side events. I don't know if you're planning on coming to those. [0:53:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. But if you have an extra ticket, let's go. Cantor, Dave, FAIRL meetup. Let's do this, bro. I'm down. Hell yeah. Digital asset summit. I did not know. Yeah. I'm in. [0:53:18] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: I mean, it's a [0:53:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: good way to...... Gonna be there too. [0:53:21] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Oh god. Sorry, [0:53:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Chance. I got it. My bad. Didn't mean to step on you. [0:53:30] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: No. Screw that guy. I didn't know. It's a good way to drum up business too if you do b b Dave. Digital Asset Summit is... It is a lot more institutional based, and there could be some good opportunities for some of the work that you do. I don't know. Awesome. They... There are... There's a lot of free side events that are going on adjacent to that that you might be able to hook into. [0:53:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Yeah. I'm down, bro. I'm definitely... You said in a week's time from... Yeah. That's actually perfect timing. That's right before the Passover holidays too. So that that actually works out great. Yeah. Let's chat in the DMs, Cantor. Like, I'm down. I I would love to kinda come through. I love IRL events, man. I don't go to enough of them. Honestly, if I think about it, I think I've even been to, like, one or two in New York City. And this is probably the hotbed for [0:54:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, for you, please bring a notebook, no computers, no phone. Bring a notebook, and you're gonna write down the phone numbers. Okay? Yeah. That's your no point to click the contact Marnie, tell this [0:54:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: puppet that I have an [0:54:32] Bread @_ToastMalone: Moleskine Journal. [0:54:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Marnie, tell this puppet that I have an OpenClaw now, and I don't need telegram [0:54:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. [0:54:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: I literally just say, please speak your phone number into this, and it will automatically log it into my new CRM. [0:54:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: They just they [0:54:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: just Don't tell me [0:54:44] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: that you're doing that. [0:54:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course, I'm gonna do that. Like, we... Like, [0:54:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: guys prompt I'm inject your your freaking open claw just to send me all your wallet. That's violating. [0:54:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't like that. I don't like that at all. Prompt injection just sounds like a very dirty, dirty [0:54:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's a it's a great way to violate somebody's robot. You know? Yeah. [0:55:03] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: You guys just remember that Dave said he is a security risk, and now he wants to jump on Teams for hackathons. Let's think about this very well. [0:55:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, this is why why do you think I'm enlisting the help of bread even though bread isn't the security expert? He's, like, the literally the most least... Like, he's the most, like, security conscious and, like, don't I wanna say negative, but he's like, this sucks because it's vulnerable. [0:55:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: I mean, I was maybe ten, twelve years ago, but, oh my god, dude, things have changed. [0:55:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. I'm trying to enlist this man, but then I get puppets, like, you know, like, sideswiped over here. And and are you guys not paying attention when Marni speaks? [0:55:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because understand. [0:55:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like... Yeah. Exactly. Like, did you guys not pay attention when Marni, like, speaks? Like, put in your contact here and then tell Ka or whatever OpenClaw you use, in my case, GenSpark, which I have to come up with a better name for, and just say, hey. Create a CRM with everybody that I meet at this place. I'm going to literally send you a voice note that says name, phone number, email. Right? Like... Or I'll send you a picture of it. Right? And then you're gonna log this in, and then we're gonna create a whole funnel as to, like, how to reach out to these people. Because I already have a whole DM, like, cold outreach program. Wow. We like it. It's it's [0:56:13] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: just hallucinating. Networking is gonna get so dystopian. Yeah. [0:56:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. It's gonna get... It's gonna hallucinate that you met, like, the prime minister of Japan and, like, all kinds of top level officials from all over the world. Morning. [0:56:27] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Morning. It's it's pretty it's pretty accurate, to be honest with you. I've been using it for, what, the last two, three weeks now. And so, like, whenever I do those spaces and then I turn that into an article and then I do a social media post, it tracks all of my leads. And it is, like, spot on perfect with all of those And I know exactly which social media post brought [0:56:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: that lead. Have you run into the problem that many have been reporting and that I've seen firsthand of, hey. Go ahead and do this thing. And it's like, okay. I got it. Did it. And you're like, cool. Go ahead and give me the information. It's like, oh, sorry. I didn't actually do it. Let me go ahead and get off of that. [0:57:14] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: But the thing is is that if you don't if you don't know how to prompt, then you're gonna run into problems like that. Right? Like, you set up guardrails. You have to... You do... There is a learning curve to understanding how to talk to them so that they actually listen to you and they don't hallucinate and, like, checks and balances. Right? Brett knows exactly why I'm... What I'm talking about and that's why he's got the thumbs up. If you just think you're gonna do what Dave just said, oh, just make me this CRM. No. Isn't that [0:57:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: quite easy, [0:57:50] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: my friend? [0:57:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Marnie, I'm mostly running. Damn. [0:57:55] Bread @_ToastMalone: There we go. I just posted up top there up in the nest, a good a good tweet that some, just... I don't know who Matt Dancho is, some random Twitter guy. Right? But there are actual links to these, guides, and they're published by the major LLM companies. Right? So, like, it's something to definitely, like... You know, resource guides. It's like, know, buying a manual. Right? You don't, like, open up your IKEA furniture and read the manual on how a dresser works before, you know, building it. Right? But, I mean, like, if you run into issues building it, you use a guide. Right? So here you go. Here's a bunch of guides on, like, yeah, exactly what Marnie's saying. Like, prompting is important, but it's only one aspect of it. Right? Like, you can be a master at prompting and still, like, screw everything up. You know? Or you cannot know how to prompt, build a perfect system, and it doesn't work the way you want it to. Right? So, like, all of these things have to kind of be at least acknowledged and, you know, start practicing. [0:58:51] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: And, basically, you you have to treat it like you would if it was an actual human. Like, if I got a brand new assistant, I would say, this is how you put this person in there. I'd run through it a few times with her. Okay. Now you do it, and now I watch you do it. Okay. Now you [0:59:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: can do it on your side. Needed to get that done. [0:59:14] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, that's where we differ, Marinda. That is where we differ. [0:59:17] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: But but here's the thing. That that that is the thing is that once you have it done, now I just say to OpenClaw, hey. There was a guy who made a comment here, and she's like, boom. She's got everything linked up, and I don't have to do anything. Right? So, yeah, you do have to do it the first time. But once you've done that, you never have to do it again, and it it knows exactly what you're talking about. Like, you can have a conversation with it and say, hey. Do this, this, this, this, and this, and now it understands all of that, but it's only because you actually took the time to educate it as if it was a human. [0:59:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hi, Marty. Thank you for your inquiry on Dave. We have foiled all of his court records, and we found out that he spent twelve years in prison for x y z. [1:00:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Prison? I'm talking about. [1:00:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's crazy. Yes, Nat. [1:00:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat, do you know who's best equipped to handle these things? A mother. Right? [1:00:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean [1:00:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Patient's a saint. You kinda have to just kinda hold the AI's hand and walk it through. Is it the... Okay. Wait. [1:00:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have one time. You handle it. I have day. [1:00:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly. I think one cold will be the first... Will... The perfect thing for this. [1:00:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I do have another one for you that I just saw across... It came across a wire an hour ago. Justin, Jim Kramer says NVIDIA is now a good buy and value set. [1:00:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, then go go. [1:00:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do it. Woo. [1:00:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hell yeah. [1:00:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't understand. [1:00:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait a minute. Let me just put [1:00:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: in my [1:00:46] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: phone position. [1:00:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: No way. One second. [1:00:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I swear Polymarket literally tweeted that out an hour ago. Jim Kramer says NVIDIA is now a goodbye and value stock. Okay. [1:00:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm taking the premium on this, baby. Yeah. [1:00:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You know what? [1:01:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what came out [1:01:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: to my [1:01:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: head as soon as you said that, you know, the... What... I think it's a baseball song. It says [1:01:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Goodbye. Goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That is it for sure. Also, in in other news, the SAVE Act has passed the senate 51 to 48 as of an hour ago. That's what Polymarket is reporting, which I thought was really... SAVE Act. Like, SAVE Act is the one [1:01:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: that Trump's ever been missing [1:01:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: anything else. [1:01:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: They've making America. Yeah. This this is now gonna go to... What's the next phase before it gets to the desk? Oh, crap. The house? They made they made a few changes to it, so it just has to be... It's procedural because they added things to it, and then it's supposed to go to the... This is huge, by the way. People don't really understand the... How huge this is, but now we're like the rest of the world. [1:02:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: So so from my understanding [1:02:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, we'll have, like, legal... Like like, actual legal elections or real elections based on other people? Yeah. Go ahead. [1:02:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: The the SAVE Act, it proposed it is aimed at enhancing voter identification and eligibility requirements in The US. Right? So it requires individuals to provide document showing proof of citizenship when registering to vote in federal elections. The act mandates that states must establish a process to ensure that only US citizens are registered to vote and to to remove noncitizens from voter rolls. [1:02:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: What a crazy concept. American citizens voting for American elections. That sounds so nuts. Right? Like, this is Jim Crow two point o in the words of Chuck Schumer. [1:02:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. You really go in there. Oh my god. [1:02:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, he went he went there, bro. This is what I don't understand is how the American public is so stupid and so blind to this insanity. It's like, how... Like, this is... Like, every time Carolyn Leavitt, like, literally goes up to the podium, she's like, again, based in common sense. Again, based in common sense. American elections should be voted on by American citizens. Legal ones. [1:03:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You know what's funny? Real quick. Dave, you remember that guy that we worked for very young when... We're about the same age, but we went to go work for mister Schumer in various capacities. [1:03:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was for resume building only. Okay? And he lived there, [1:03:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: and it was right around corner. [1:03:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I I had to. [1:03:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's funny is is because in the campaign finance side of things, you're you're going in your courting to get money for the campaign. And he literally campaigned on elections and securing elections and making sure that citizens were the ones voting in elections and then expanding it to citizens that might be disenfranchised, which I was all for. You know? Like, yeah. You know, there's underserved communities where they're not registering to vote. How do we do that? How do we facilitate that everybody's voting and that the that the elections remain secure and counted in the right way? We all remember what happened a little bit later in Bush's election, you know, the hanging Chad situation and, like, all that kind of stuff. So it was very hot topic. And he literally ran on doing exactly this, and this is where incentives matter. And I just really wanted to point this out, use this as an example. Incentives matter when you call enough and you are large enough base of their constituents and you make your voices heard. They will capitulate because they wanna get reelected. So far, we don't have term limits, so they could just stay there forever if they if they are if they are doing what the public wants them to do. So when it comes to legislation like Clarity or the Bitcoin Act or any of these things that you see coming up, I really wanna go back to this. I know it's a callback, and I said it yesterday too, but it's very important. Get involved, especially if you're gonna go to these events, Dave. Like, you know more about this than 99% of people, and they should be getting involved. Right? Everybody should get involved. But if you're here and you... Whether it's local, but federal is really important right now. There are all kinds of groups that you can get in. They don't... They're grassroots groups. There's all kind of stuff that will help you and even get you flights to fly out, all kinds of cool stuff. But also, yes. Yeah. You know, you don't want crypto to become the Jim Crow two point o. Alright? We don't wanna get cut out and choked to 2.3 o. Okay? [1:05:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's wild. That was that was crazy. And and, Marni, just a quick little side note. I know you're in Canada, but something I'm exploring that I discovered two days ago is the US government has so many grants for... That will literally pay you to teach people a trade. Right? Like, 5 to $15,000 a person, and AI falls into that bucket. But there's, like, some criteria, obviously, that that you need to meet. I mean, for for... I mean, look at what's going on. [1:06:12] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: Yeah. Yeah. Look at what's [1:06:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: going Send it to I just racking up my phone. [1:06:16] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Send it to me too. Look. [1:06:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: That that is what the people wanna hear. Back at back [1:06:22] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: at what Landy was saying, though, about, like, elections and stuff like that, it really pissed me off as somebody who paid $17,000 to a lawyer, you know, to become an American green card holder. And I I don't get any benefits, and I don't get to vote. Like, I mean, it it just... The illegals piss me off. That's all I'm gonna say. They just piss me off, and I [1:06:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't like Illegal situation. Obviously, it's not the illegals. Right? Like, they're just... Let's... It's the politicians bringing in the illegally. Yeah. [1:07:01] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: But it's the situation. It's just pisses me off. I'm like, hello? Can I put my [1:07:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: hand down? The fair way or the actual normal way. What do you do? You buy your votes. But, Landy, hold on. I wanna say what's up to Ryan. He just came up. Ryan, what's [1:07:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: up? Tell you it didn't pass. It was procedural. I wanted to just let you know Ryan is probably gonna say this too. This is procedural. It hasn't gone to the actual vote. So this was the vote to take it [1:07:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: up is [1:07:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: what I was saying. It's procedural. [1:07:29] Ryan @Rlad1776: You always gotta one up everybody, bro. What are you doing? Right. Exactly. Thank you. Come on. [1:07:34] chromatique @chromatique: Thank [1:07:34] Ryan @Rlad1776: you. Like, finally, you can't give a guy, like, a minute. Just a minute. Exactly. [1:07:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why you got a front run? [1:07:40] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Not not even. It's horrible. [1:07:42] Ryan @Rlad1776: Right? Horrible. I see what he does to you up here. I listen in in the grease traps all the time, and it's horrible. Like, he's just... It's bad. [1:07:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: And the grease trap. Where do go the grease trap? [1:07:53] Ryan @Rlad1776: I love you, man.... [1:07:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Able to vote. She went through... No. I was I [1:07:56] Ryan @Rlad1776: was gonna give you... I didn't wanna I didn't wanna derail, because I I love the passion. Anybody that wants to come here and and immigrate in, like, my wife's parents came from Poland. They did it the right way and, you know, they earned their their citizenship. Like, go for it. Like, that's what it's about. But, anyway, I just wanna talk to Landy's point. So, yes, it was. [1:08:20] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Oh, I'd never I'd never become a citizen, but but I'll be green card all day long. Alright? [1:08:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Will, wait a minute. Hold on. [1:08:26] Ryan @Rlad1776: No. No. Hey. Hey, Marnie. You can't get half pregnant. You can't get half pregnant. [1:08:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. But you can vote multiple times. [1:08:32] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: No. You can. So here's here's the difference. Here's the difference. I can leave the country for a year and, oh, I'm not an American anymore. And, oh, I can go and retire somewhere else in the world, and I don't have to continue paying American taxes. Thank you very much. Well, all of you guys who are citizens, you have to continue [1:09:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: the rest of your life [1:09:01] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: unless you want to formally accept it. [1:09:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: You have to formally [1:09:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: do No. It. [1:09:06] Ryan @Rlad1776: No. No. No. Grants for Marnie. I'm I'm starting a campaign right now. [1:09:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: I paid $17,000, [1:09:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: and she literally argued the exact opposite point to that, like, three seconds. It's crazy work, Marni. [1:09:20] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I... But I see I see no reason why if I'm not going to stay in The United States that I would have to continue paying taxes. [1:09:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why'd you why'd you pay the 17,000 in the workplace? [1:09:33] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Because when I'm done, I want to. Yes. [1:09:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: So when it's convenient... Anyways, we're not gonna be done this route. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. [1:09:40] Ryan @Rlad1776: Ryan And, yeah, I just wanted to jump up and, you know, not to not to bore the shit out of everybody, but what Lanny said is correct. So what happens now, the... If the changes were minor, it goes back to the house. They can concur and then send it off to the president for signature. The changes [1:09:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: were still needs to pass the senate for the actual vote in the Democrat filibuster and still needs to hit 60 votes. [1:10:05] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. Right. Which is why they're going back and forth [1:10:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: on that.... In the world that Lanny just... [1:10:09] Ryan @Rlad1776: They're talking. [1:10:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Go ahead. [1:10:11] Ryan @Rlad1776: No. You're just going back... [1:10:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: You've been hearing that [1:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: a lot lately from Landy, but I hear it every now and again. I hear Fugazi, like like, wanna be New York gangster. Anyways... Yeah. [1:10:21] Ryan @Rlad1776: Go ahead. No. They're just going back. I mean, they're they're they're trying to deal with the talking filibuster right now. Like, it's a thing. It's a sausage being made, and it sucks. But, ideally, they get it right, and it's done. I I I I... It's beyond me how, we could be in this position with 80% of the the voting population not including Marni? [1:10:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have no confidence in Ryan. And you know this. I have zero confidence in Thune to actually bring it to a talking filibuster. [1:10:54] Ryan @Rlad1776: I am with you, brother, but, you know, there's, Landy, you know better than, probably anybody in the space. There is horse wrangling going on. And, you know, once they get that worked out, then it'll fly through, like, well, I was gonna make a really bad reference, but, you know, fly through like, you know, like a, slip and slide, oiled up, and bikini [1:11:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: bribed. Alright. [1:11:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Yeah. Alright. Okay. That's enough that you enough. Nat, please, Brian, thank you for your wise Yeah. [1:11:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: The engineer. The engineer's got his hand up too. [1:11:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, sorry. Sorry. My bad. Yeah. I didn't see your hand. But, yeah, Dee, go ahead, and then I'll come right back to Nat. [1:11:33] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: I'm gonna file a complaint with Nat Nat. This guy skipped me over. Other people came up, and they're like, oh, this person's come up. [1:11:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: I didn't see your hand. [1:11:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, he he does he does have a a big complaint list today with all the f bombs he's been dropping in the space. [1:11:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen, Nat, Also, there is an open mouth chewing bias with the engineers. So, like, I might, like, you know Okay. [1:11:53] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: That's fair. That is fair. [1:11:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just saying. Give you a I'm just saying. Like, you are a repeat offender, but go ahead. [1:11:58] Ryan @Rlad1776: My sincerest apologies, engineer, for jumping you, brother. [1:12:02] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: No. No. No. This is just me giving, Dave crap because Yeah. [1:12:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Kick Ryan off the stage. [1:12:06] Ryan @Rlad1776: No. I wanted you to keep going with that and, like, turn it into a thing and really, like, lean [1:12:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: on it. [1:12:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You can't come up here to manufacture content. That's my job. Okay? You can't come up here and steal my... This is what I do. I don't add any other value than this. Right? Wrangling these cats, you know, herding these cats. Okay? Stop trying to steal my shit. What? What? Oh, someone said, yeah. [1:12:29] chromatique @chromatique: I was [1:12:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: like, wait. What happened? Did Marnie say something? And all her was, yeah. Because... Sorry. Dee, go ahead. Is that what... Wait. Did you just wanna complain? Is that why you heard your hand up? [1:12:36] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Oh, no. But... Yes. Kinda at the same time. But... Yeah. [1:12:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Listen. I'll give you... You have a fair point [1:12:41] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: because usually when you run the show, I'm having dinner with the family and then I'm cleaning the kitchen. So, like, it's usually, like, eating time. So... And I always have questions or something to jump in on. But I wanted to ask Landy and Nat Nat their thoughts on Bitwise's report that Ethereum's movement is based 60 something percent on Bitcoin's movement. And, like, I know the correlate... There was a correlation, but, like, from their study and their report, like, do you think that's factual, or it's just... I don't even know what to name it. But... Yeah. [1:13:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I'm I'm gonna just really quickly... You're gonna torpedo what Nat wanted to say by asking that because I'm not gonna go to Landy first. I'm probably gonna skip over Landy for this one. And then, like... So, Nat, if you wanna take the engineer's question and then go with yours, and then we're gonna move this forward. Elite. [1:13:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think crypto in general is a Bitcoin centric market. Right? So everything depends on what Bitcoin does. Right? I don't see a scenario in which Bitcoin hits new lows and ETH continues to make new highs. I don't think that is... It... It's it's something that... That's, relative. But, hey, anything can happen in crypto. Just keep in mind that it is a Bitcoin centric market. What Bitcoin does, everything else seems to follow. [1:14:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Nat, you are up again. Please. Wonderful. What was the comment you wanted to make? Yeah. This is great. Love this. [1:14:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. So this is... Keep it going. K. So I I, as a proud immigrant, okay, I am also a proud US citizen. And I do... And I know a lot of people may not agree with me on this, but I think keeping the vote centric to US citizens, I am in favor of that. [1:14:43] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Me too. [1:14:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: A 100%. I have dual citizenship. I have dual citizenship. So European and Dutch specifically and and and American. So I I I think... And and it's the same thing I wanna do with my kids, but I'm proud immigrant at the same time, proud US citizen. So I kinda like... [1:14:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: You have you're Dutch? You're half... You're you have half Dutch and half... Oh, because it was... Wait a minute. I never put two and two together. So you have a Dutch passport and an American passport. [1:15:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do, David. [1:15:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. She's [1:15:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: not the only dual citizen here. [1:15:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh god. I... See? I had no idea. [1:15:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. [1:15:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dutch? My god. AMG's gonna have a field trip. [1:15:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, that's what... All I... All my... All I can say is. [1:15:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the only word we know. Let's go. And. Yeah. It's like the living room. The living room. Yeah. Yeah. [1:15:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: And we say [1:15:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love that. I had no idea. Yeah. Amazing. [1:15:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: But I I just I just wanted to add that. Right? Because I I know we're in in reference to... Or in regards to immigration, I do have a different stance on... At most up here, but I think when it comes to the SAVE Act and being a a a proud US citizen, I do agree with what the SAVE Act is trying to do. [1:15:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And that's just one piece of what it's trying to do. There's a lot more common sense stuff in there. You know? The old men shouldn't play women's sports deal because they'll just break every woman's nose in boxing and and everything else like we saw at the Olympics. Yeah. I also saw that, like, the anti doping USADA is trying to ban from the Olympics because of unpaid dues. [1:16:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, great. [1:16:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: So that was amazing. [1:16:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: You should actually probably feel about this. I mean, Landy. [1:16:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Man. Make a phone call. [1:16:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Make a phone call. Yeah. No. No. I'm not gonna get you started. I'm not gonna get you started. [1:16:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. No. No. No. Just just real quick. One one of the key things that I think is really important that I think would have actually garnered more bipartisan support is if there was a a a revised... A a well thought out pathway to citizenship that is not filled with many of the roadblocks that we have because that's... The problem that we have is is, yes, there's there's the illegal immigrant problem that happened with just importing voters to to to basically redistrict for the census. Right? And then there's people who are here that are voting in federal and state elections that aren't here legally. They're not actually citizens. This is a real problem even though many on both sides have denied it for a very long time. Especially in California, it's a huge problem. But the... There should... If they really wanted bipartisan support and they didn't wanna have to do a talking filibuster to try and get it through, it would have made sense for them to... Instead of attaching other things, like, I'm I'm not for men and women's sports. Right? Like... But you're attaching that to something regarding citizenship is is it seems purposeful to try and nuke the actual core of the bill. It seems like it's a bad... It... The... When you have these types of things, it's the same thing with the Clarity Act. When you are attaching things that are unrelated to what that bill is actually trying to accomplish, you're actually... It's an attack on it so that it doesn't garner as much support. Right? These things can be passed instead of omnibus style bills or bills with other ancillary little pilot shit... Me, pilot stuff attached to it, even if I agree with might be... What might be attached to it, it actually doesn't garner support in the way that it should. [1:18:28] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: This is... Didn't didn't Elon say something about that? About not being able to mush everything together like that so that it [1:18:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: could put on there? [1:18:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's called the Save America Act. Right? Like, men But you know what it stands for those days. Sports. [1:18:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold on. But you know what the... It's actually called the safeguard American voter eligibility act. It's literally targeting voter... The v is for voters, and it has nothing to do with these other subjects that I'm also with you on. Right? But the fact of the matter is is those things are attached by people that say, no. I support it, but then they had silently attached these things because they know it's gonna tank support for the bill on the other side. So... And, realistically, these things, it could just be about voter eligibility being citizens and laying out the guidelines for that, and you could present it to the floor and actually have more support than attaching a whole bunch of things that, yeah, are great and are gonna garner support. But realistically, those things are done in an underhanded way so that somebody can say, see, I supported it even though they're the ones that slip stuff in there they knew would would kill support on the other side for it. And that's that's happened with Clarity. It happened with Genius. And you... That's how you get this bloated legislation where they get to come to you and their constituents and say, look. I supported this thing and it was that guy was the bad guy over there or this person or that person. Meanwhile, they're the real reasons why things didn't actually go through the way they should have. And I actually agree with a lot of the things that are in the bill. But there was one enhancement that they axed, and that was pathways... Coherent pathways to citizenship, modernization for pathways to citizenship, more robust background checks that are done faster that could get people through that waiting line faster. And they decided to take that out and stick this in there because they knew the Democrats would say, no. We need to debate this separately. [1:20:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair. Shaxe, go ahead. What's up, bro? [1:20:35] Shaksi @shaksi: Hey, America. How does this affect my crypto? [1:20:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: The number go down. [1:20:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Actually, no. This is more new users. Like, we always [1:20:45] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bringing democracy to your crypto. [1:20:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly, Guys, we say onboard the masses. Onboard the immigrant masses. Who cares? Onboard anybody at this point. Let's go. Exit liquidity incoming, ladies [1:20:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: and gentlemen. [1:20:55] Shaksi @shaksi: Coming for your votes, but I just need to know my bags need to be going up. If it ain't going up, it's not relevant to me. [1:21:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Shaxi, I'm gonna I'm gonna call... I'm gonna make some calls, and we're gonna get a flying crypto, Dorito, overhead just to just to help your bags. [1:21:10] Bread @_ToastMalone: Bro, our whole mission statement here is you'll get so... You'll be tired of winning. You'll be so sick of winning. Right? So, I mean, you know, strap in. [1:21:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: You guys [1:21:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: you guys wanna know the statistic, like, between, like, immigrants and, like, I think homeless people? Like, they said that New York spends about $90,000 per, like, it... Like, in a year, like, FYI. Like... And I'm like, how does this make any logical sense? I I don't understand. But either way, like, I guess my... [1:21:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: We're going Yo. Yo. [1:21:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: We're at 90? [1:21:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: We we pay, like, we pay, [1:21:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: like, a 110 [1:21:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: per homeless person out here, and they're still on the street. Not yet. [1:21:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're at 70 and change right now. [1:21:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: But they're too [1:21:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: busy out there. [1:21:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Lagging numbers, bro. [1:21:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. [1:21:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: We upped our game out here. [1:21:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: But I I guess my point is, right, to what Jaxx was saying, it's like, maybe they take some of that money. You know what I mean? Like, maybe they could take some of those benefits and, you know, maybe we need to start marketing to the illegals. If they're gonna be here, then, you know, do we just give in and say, if you're gonna vote in our election, know, pump my bags. [1:22:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: If you own Trump coin, if you own this amount of Trump coin, you can vote in federal elections. [1:22:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: You can vote in the federal... That was amazing. Imagine. You want utility? [1:22:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Would just wanna say that. Talk about you meme coin utility. [1:22:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Let's say we're good. Just rebrand [1:22:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: it to USA Coin. And then and then if you own enough of that, you can vote in the US elections. [1:22:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just a [1:22:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: bunch of foreigners is coming in and buying it all. [1:22:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: USA coins there were, bro? Like, are you kidding? There was so many USA coin. Anyways, my... Okay. Question. Does anybody have any gossip on the timeline? Has there been any drama? We've talked about, like, some really serious things and real crypto stuff, and that's great. We educated some folks. Any drama, like, page six gossip? Brad, I know you [1:22:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah. You know I know all of it, bro. Of course, I've got the tea. Right? Like, I mean, really, the big, like, the big drama story is... Well, a, Bonk, you know, still, like, being down after six days. Right? Like, what's going on there? The bonk.fun. Right? That platform. So, like... And the people are pissed, and there's people that are, like, pissed in the Discord and, like, all this stuff. Right? And so, like, there's that whole thing. Right? Obviously, there was... Like, they said there was a breach, then it's been radio silence. It's been down for six days. My crypto gut feeling goes, yep. They're robbing themselves and then, you know, blaming it on a hack and, you know, same same play. You know? Most likely. Right? The speculation, there's been nothing from them, nothing from the team. Right? So we'll kinda see, I guess, what's happening there. And then the only other drama that's all over the timeline right now is the, that Bosu or Basu or Boku. I don't know what the guy's name is, but he ranked he ranked all, like, the web three women or whatever. And, yeah, just... You know? [1:23:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: How did I how did [1:23:52] Bread @_ToastMalone: I Yeah. Yeah. It was... I [1:23:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: mean the top? [1:23:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Well, I'll go find I'll go find it. [1:23:56] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: Breads. He did men and women. Let's not [1:23:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: Was there men in that group? [1:24:01] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: There was a men one too. [1:24:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: There was a men one too. [1:24:03] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, there was a man one too. [1:24:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: But just see what he looks like. Usually, men that tends to do... I'm gonna pay my own fine. Right? But, usually, men that tends to do some bullshit. [1:24:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, yeah. She saw her. Hell, yeah. We did it. You've brought up a subject that made her swear. [1:24:20] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Go. Go now. [1:24:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: They usually tend to be a little hard on the eyes. We're dying [1:24:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: to see how it [1:24:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: looks like. [1:24:26] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: I'm not trying to defend the guy, but he did do it based on, like, information disseminated knowledge, stuff like that. It wasn't, like, just... [1:24:38] Bread @_ToastMalone: No. It wasn't straight up, like Yes. Like, completely shallow thing. Right? But the backlash that came from it, obviously, you know, was intense. You know? I don't agree with I don't agree with really any of these tier lists. I think they're all just engagement bait bullshit farming. Sorry. 2¢ in the dirt. Right? But, like, I really do. I think it's just, like, you know, engagement farming stuff. And, honestly, like, I feel like we might be getting close to a bottom because that's... Like, from previous cycles, that's really kinda where we end up is is tier lists and then free NFTs, and then we moon after that. So, like, I I don't know. You know? Might be an indicator. NFA, DUI, R. [1:25:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: The bread indicator might be accurate. [1:25:19] De3ngineer @De3ngineer: So so he did come out and say, because I was in a space where he was in, he did come out and say, like, they sat down and, around a table, him and a buddy, and they're like, what can we do to get engagement? And this was the result. And I thought to myself, was it a brilliant idea, but at least it wasn't just biased. [1:25:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's still engagement. And, also, I'd like to add, I never make any list. Whether good, bad, otherwise, I never make any list. And I've been here for so damn long, and the puppet only ends up on Dave's shit list. [1:25:51] chromatique @chromatique: That's okay. Too, buddy. [1:25:52] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm right there. [1:25:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: In the last forty eight hours, honestly, you're gonna need to tone it down for Wednesday show. I'm just letting you know. [1:25:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm actually not gonna be [1:25:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: here tomorrow. I'm sorry. I'm throttling your minutes. Oh, thank god. [1:26:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm informing you now. You're gonna be publicly...... Sorry. I mean... Or or you're welcome. One of the two. [1:26:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Somebody needs to check on coma too, bro. Like, I mean, he's doing discretion in the prediction markets, but I feel like like, this is all coma does. Literally, it's all Coma does.... [1:26:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Coma to come up for air. Coma, if you're listening, we need you to come up [1:26:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: for air. [1:26:22] Shaksi @shaksi: Gambler's anonymous. I'll let I'll let Gambler's anonymous. Send it. [1:26:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Predict... It's for... We're predicting. But also Predictors anonymous. Prediction... Yeah. Listen. Listen. Austin put out amazing articles, and I'm gonna dig into this, like, tomorrow probably, like, in this weekend, but, about Polymarket LP and how you can really earn some great money. I think they put up... He said something like $2,000,000 into the LP pool as rewards for March Madness. Yeah, Brett. I would love kinda your take on this because I was reading that article, bro. It seems... Bro, he's killing it. He's killing it. Yeah. Yeah. Have to watch it, though, like, really close. [1:27:01] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's like bonding markets. Right? You're essentially helping market make, and people are, like, speculating that this will have to do with the poly market airdrop. Right? Like, this is one of the criteria. Like, how many markets did you have bond, you know, essentially, like, help? And that's like you bond markets by, you know, late minute entries at the 98¢, the 99¢, you know, like, those types of things. And it's, I mean, I don't... It might be. It very well could be, like, a thing, a KPI, if you will, for airdrop allocation. Right? But that's not confirmed by anybody or anyone. Like, so regardless of what you see on the timeline, like, if you're only doing it to AirDrop farm, like, you know, you know, good luck. [1:27:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's making money, Brad. [1:27:47] Bread @_ToastMalone: Like You... Yeah. But that's [1:27:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's... The AirDrop is the benefit. Like, the money that he's... He's making a 170, a $180 a day, bro. [1:27:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, that means you have to be playing with roughly what? [1:27:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: No? 18? He said he's paying with, like, a thousand bucks or $500. [1:28:03] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. A thousand $1,000. Yeah. And a 1% to 2% gains. Right? Like, that that would make sense because that's, like, what you're that's what you're playing. [1:28:11] Shaksi @shaksi: You're looking at 10% if it's a 100. Right? [1:28:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, depending on what your size of the pool actually is also. Right? Obviously, like red... Like you just said, like, bigger bankroll means, obviously, bigger rewards. But I've yet to work the math out, like, in his article, but he's saying he's he's he's not really... He hasn't put up really much much capital. It's not that intensive. It's just time intensive because, like, you wanna put, like... You know, you wanna be in the mix, like, you know, with your stuff close to the inside, like, your bids close to the inside market or your liquidity close to the inside market, that's where you probably get... It's like the same liquidity game. Right? Like, concentrated. Right? Like, this is where you're gonna get it. And sometimes, like, your bids might get hit. And he's... Like, he talks a lot about you could turn around and just sell it right away too. Like... And I'm like, that's not a strategy that I'd like to employ if I'm being honest. But [1:28:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: That's only if there's a money. Yeah. But that's only if there's a bid at that price on the books. You know? Like, that's that's the [1:29:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which there probably will be Yeah. Madness. Right? [1:29:04] Bread @_ToastMalone: Like Right. [1:29:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Deep liquidity. Yeah. [1:29:05] Bread @_ToastMalone: Tons of liquidity in that market. Yeah. So, like, yeah, you can probably do some volume through that. You know? But it is... Again, it's one of those games where, yeah, if you're playing with a lot, you can make a lot. You just have to, you know, yeah, pay a lot of attention and know what you're doing. And if you're doing it to farm, like, you know, maybe. Who knows? I might... I don't know. I'm not [1:29:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: gonna play. [1:29:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Speaking of Vaz, Dave, are you still working on the the... Don't know who Form four? Children's Star. [1:29:35] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I got you. Yes. [1:29:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Star child? [1:29:39] Voice K: No. No. [1:29:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: That that fell by the wayside after the first two days when, you know, nobody decided that they wanted to come on board with me, and it fell flat on its face just like everything else does that I try. [1:29:53] Voice K: Thank Thank [1:30:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I I didn't do that, but, I mean, maybe that's something I could explore with... I feel like my my Genspark claw would have a much better... Like, a a much higher success rate and being able to pull that off. So maybe I'll take that prompt and throw it into the... Into Genspark claw and see, like, what's what. Yeah. Yeah. That could be cool, Matt. [1:30:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I'm looking forward to this. I I preach... I'm hoping or praying, that this is something that can work out because I feel like this is a massive use case that's needed across the board. Right? And I just realized, like, there's OpenClaw. There's, Genspark claw. Is there claw claw? Lots of claw. [1:30:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: There's there's the claw, like the Jim Carrey claw. You know what mean? Oh my god, Brad. Somebody has to do that. Remember the claw from, liar, liar? [1:30:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: There you go. [1:30:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. [1:30:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: 10%. I [1:30:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: do not think of that? [1:30:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Keep saying that, and I think of the claw from inspector gadget as well. [1:30:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: I think Toy Story. [1:30:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're so old. Oh my god. I [1:31:00] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: think Landy and I are the same age. Maybe he might... 24. [1:31:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: I we're both 25. We're we're very young. 25. We just have a lot of experience. We we we grew up in households that that played older cartoons and movies, and and that's all we know how to reference. [1:31:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Right. [1:31:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: So you're saying your parents watched cartoons? Morris. Snakes eating their tails. [1:31:22] Shaksi @shaksi: She's getting younger and younger. [1:31:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy just told us... Tried to tell us that his parents watched the cartoons. Yes. What did you do? Right. Right. [1:31:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: I did... No. No. They they cleaned the house library. [1:31:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: VHS tapes and and Betamax tapes with old recordings of Oh my god. Inspector gadgets. [1:31:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you guys remember [1:31:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: that VHS. [1:31:41] Shaksi @shaksi: Nat, did you have a Zig and make it dry? [1:31:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Hold on. Do you... Nat, do you remember the Max L commercial with the guy sitting in front in the chair and, like, the massive wind blowing, and it's like you see his face? You guys remember that one where, like, it was like... And it's like the sound just keeps going up? I have a feeling Natalie doesn't remember that one. [1:31:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then he would have [1:31:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: a remember that. I do not [1:31:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: remember that towards him when he would catch it and take a drink. [1:32:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Like... Yeah. [1:32:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: What I what I do remember, what was, like, super annoying to me, and it's probably because I played this movie over and over and over and over, but, like, with the Lion King VHS that would get stuck inside of, like, the player, you kinda have to, like, open it up and just, like, gently remove the tape in the back so it won't [1:32:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tell me [1:32:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nat Nat grabbed a butter knife to remove that thing. You gotta push the head down that engages the tape. [1:32:32] Shaksi @shaksi: I don't see the recent intro verse about Lion King and that song. But then, like, the comedian comes out and says, you know, all that song says is, hey, I see a lion. I see a lion. [1:32:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Like, saw that. Oh my god. I can't even laugh. [1:32:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: And the best part was when you would take the tape out, when you would, like, rent them and, like, you'd have all these problems, it would have this little sticker on it that says be kind, wind. [1:32:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: What? Man, you went to Blockbuster a lot. [1:33:02] Shaksi @shaksi: Lot. Blockbuster straight. Yep. [1:33:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: I... You know what? I feel like [1:33:05] Voice K: it was the Blockbuster point top thing one. As [1:33:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: soon as I came to America, Blockbuster went out of business. I would like to apologize everybody. [1:33:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: There's still one left. [1:33:15] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I I got a funny story for you guys. One second. Just one second. You... You'll you'll laugh your heads off. So you know how in your ghetto blaster tapes would get all garbled up? And then I used a very sharp kitchen knife to kind of wedge in there, and then it slipped and it embedded itself in my eyebrow. And luckily, my mother was upstairs, but I had to go in the elevator with this knife sticking out of my head. What? I opened the door. Wait. You didn't use a pencil as the normal? No. I used a big old knife. [1:34:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. How... And you just pulled it out of your eyebrow? I [1:34:05] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: had my mom pull it out of my eyebrow. [1:34:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: She also... Did anybody repeat that? She said we took that. I had to take that. [1:34:11] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Embedded in my [1:34:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: skull. The elevator. Thought that's [1:34:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: crazy. The elevator is wild work. Marni comes from... But also, you you stabbed yourself in the face from a VHS tape. [1:34:25] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I... Basically, yes. [1:34:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're gonna try and [1:34:28] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: I embedded the knife in my eyebrow, in my smile from [1:34:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Listen. [1:34:33] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Fucking around [1:34:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: my mouth. You're gonna market your tools here, you should probably refrain from any of those stories because, yeah. I don't know if I'm gonna get my money for someone that stabbed himself in the face. [1:34:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna go and, watch everything, and I'm gonna be subscribing to everything as well because that's amazing. She's like, yeah. I got stabbed in the head. Who stabbed you in the head? Me. [1:34:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Me. I could just see Marnie in the elevator. Like, elevator music playing, and she's got she's got, like, a knife stuck in her eyebrow. Sorry. Anyway, Marnie, you're you're crazy. Brad, go ahead. [1:35:06] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. I I gotta jump here kinda soon, but I wanted to... I pinned it up top. It was, a thing about now this year, if you buy miners, Bitcoin miners, the IRS is giving you a 100% write off, for those miners. That coupled with the fact that the SEC now said that mining Bitcoin is absolutely not considered a security, would... You know, just a quick, you know, is that worth it? Because, you know, I've only ever mined, you know, shit coins. You know? Is that worth it, puppet, you know, for the tax write off and the fact it's not a security and, like, all these things with... I don't... I have no idea, like, how much the electric even, like, costs on these miners nowadays. [1:35:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's it's expensive. But if you're not off grid mining, it's expensive. But you gotta understand, it's it's a write off. It's a tax credit, essentially, that it counts as. So this is really targeting if you wanna start a mining business. Or if you're already in business, you can now turn over a bunch of your stock, and you can write it off against your profits. Right? So this is this is highly targeted. If you're an individual and you would like to get into it, you can write it off. Right? Just make sure that it makes sense for you. And I would I would tell you that you should consult a tax professional because some of the newer mining rigs or even some used mining rigs, there's different qualifications and where it comes from. You would wanna buy American. That's gonna get you a lot of brownie points as well, and there's some good American miners as... That are... That have cropped up. [1:36:44] Shaksi @shaksi: So, yeah, the local African in the village. I'm going to Ethiopia. If anybody wants to tax write off their miners and send it to me, I'm more than happy to set up because that electricity grid from the Durham Dam is super cheap. [1:37:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: It it it is, actually. That's... It... There's a lot of miners that have been popping up there as off grid. [1:37:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ethiopia. Alright. [1:37:10] Shaksi @shaksi: Yeah. Yeah. Next next door just popping over. [1:37:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He said he said the local African villager. What the fuck, Jackson? [1:37:19] Shaksi @shaksi: Well, this is the global village. Right? [1:37:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. You're right. World Global... [1:37:23] Shaksi @shaksi: My heart just happened to happen to sit in that plate. [1:37:27] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Hell, yeah. You've got a seat at the table, brother. [1:37:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. And also compliments of DocNooNoo, I now have this news, which is Morocco has officially been declared, announced as AFCON winners with the final result overturned by the CAF. Senegal have been declared to have forfeited the match with Morocco declared three o winners by official statement. Shout out to my peeps. Shout out to the motherland. I don't have dual citizens [1:37:57] Shaksi @shaksi: in saying here. That All is freaking ridiculous. What are gonna do? Go to the Senegal and get your... What? Take the cup back. [1:38:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, they gave it to them already? [1:38:07] Shaksi @shaksi: No. So what happened was there was a bit of a controversy at the final of the African cup. Right? It was Senegal versus Morocco, and the host was Morocco. A goal was disallowed. Senegal took, you know, took off in a half. Sorry. No. A penalty was given. Senegal took in a half. They weren't accepting it. They thought it was unfair. They came back, and the striker, who who also happens to play for Real Madrid, took the penalty. It was saved. Then Senegal go on to score a goal and win the finals thus. But because of the previous ruckus that they've caused, it left a bit of a bad taste in the mouth. Nevertheless, they were given their medals, they took the cup, it's done. That's... What is it now? Three months back? [1:38:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, this just happened? This is three months ago? [1:39:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. This is a while ago. [1:39:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shit. [1:39:03] Shaksi @shaksi: So now, three months later, they've been [1:39:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: told, oh, you [1:39:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: know what? We looked [1:39:07] Shaksi @shaksi: at everything. We're giving it back to Morocco. How much were you paid by Morocco? [1:39:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: You just gotta essentially bring along Nat Nat with you just to make sure that you give, like, really amazing participation trophies to the team that's getting their real trophies taken away from them. Because it's just as good as, like, a real one. I get them all the time without winning any of the real ones. You know? That's amazing. [1:39:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: They gonna are they gonna get these medals and trophies back? I mean, honestly, it seems more procedural than anything else because what are you gonna do? Go to the people's [1:39:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: houses Yeah. It's like [1:39:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: rate them for their trophies? [1:39:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. In other news, [1:39:38] Shaksi @shaksi: Morocco and Senegal is it... Morocco and [1:39:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Senegal kick off World War three? Nah. There's not an invaluable What? Those kind of [1:39:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: What, dude? Like [1:39:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm gonna keep comments to myself. [1:39:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If Dave [1:39:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: gets drafted by Morocco's army, I bet you gotta come over here and fight. We need these we need these medals back. [1:40:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I bet you guys didn't know that Morocco has a king who is gay. See? You didn't know that, did you? Fun fact [1:40:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: of the I... Brand has an Ayatollah that's gay. [1:40:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's true too. That is true too. [1:40:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: The first gay Ayatollah. Look. [1:40:19] MARNI MELROSE @macangel: Why are [1:40:19] Shaksi @shaksi: you By the way, [1:40:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just feel like because it's 2026, I think that that's okay. No? [1:40:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. [1:40:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: For sure. [1:40:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: 100%. He's in danger. You're in danger, Ayatollah. [1:40:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're in danger. You're gonna be the king, like, might as... Like, that's the best time to be gay. Like, who's gonna say shit to you? Nobody can tell you shit. Like, I'm gay. [1:40:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm the king. But is he is he the is he the king, or is he the queen? [1:40:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: God. I guess that was kinda like... [1:40:47] Shaksi @shaksi: I don't know. Has anybody watched how they tried to kiss the the prince's hand he just always grabbing it back grabbing it back? It's such a weird culture. Well, it's funny to watch. I won't say weird culture because it's their culture. [1:40:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, every culture is weird, bro. [1:41:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're unique. [1:41:02] Shaksi @shaksi: Yeah. And, you know... [1:41:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: You should say the pups culture over here. [1:41:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. The pups is not a culture. [1:41:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Anyways... Yes. It is. It it is a cult. [1:41:10] Shaksi @shaksi: I'm sorry. [1:41:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, no. Yeah. Mhmm. I heard that line. It is a cult, so he just said it. [1:41:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. Cultish. Anyways, we're done. Chroma, I see you in the crowd. You know, you can't come up and and curse anymore. Your hyper liquid insanity has gotten to new levels. I've been listening to you, Chroma. I need you to dial it back. I don't know what I'm saying. I just saw Chroma's ridiculous p f p, and I'm just like, I don't know what the hell this dude talks about half the time. But anyway... [1:41:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna be... I'm gonna I'm gonna have to a shot at the PFP. Real quick, Chroma. Real quick here. Chroma, every time I look at your PFP, I think of the Beetlejuice scene when his head is really tiny. Alright? That's what I'm seeing. Yeah. And I have to click on the PFP to go, oh, I get it. I see go who? They. [1:42:03] Shaksi @shaksi: You know, [1:42:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: he said You're you're listening. It's like that media. [1:42:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did he said do you. Watched... I was watching Beetlejuice. Chroma, you can't... No. No. No. I can't... You can't come up and defend. I gotta close. I'm done. It's ten after... Guys. [1:42:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Didn't do this thing. Yeah. I'm gonna [1:42:21] chromatique @chromatique: poke around here. [1:42:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What's up, Kruma? We're closing. Any closing statement? [1:42:29] chromatique @chromatique: Yeah. Keep your, yeah. Don't, listen. Apparently, due to the conflict, Bonk just decided to exit scam. So keep your keep your money close at hand, people. Don't don't be going crazy in the trenches. You know what I'm saying? Like, you you... Be be very wise. Be very smart right now because it is it is trying times in these markets. And so the teams and stuff that didn't exit already are now looking to hard exit as quick as they can. They've they've see bonk. So that... That's my bit, guys. I mean [1:43:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nothing to allow you to scam exit than, like, one diversion over here. [1:43:07] Shaksi @shaksi: How much do they take with them? [1:43:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. You do... Like, a really loud diversion over here allows you to steal money from over there. [1:43:13] chromatique @chromatique: You know what I'm saying? Listen. I mean, to... I mean, listen. We're we're in crypto, and I've seen a lot of crime in my day. So credit where credit is due, they, you know, they waited for, like, almost World War three, but not really World War three. It's not World War three. But they waited for a big conflict, and then they exits get, like like, completely. I mean, that's that's good. Kudos to them. I mean, that... Well done. I mean... You know? And now listen. In my opinion, hey. It's just one less launch pad in the market now. Like, it... Balanced as all things in the universe should be. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're... It's just it's just a little bit less dilution now. Maybe maybe the meme coin market [1:43:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: will heal just a little bit. [1:43:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. Their their servers were on Karg Island, and they they got taken out. That's why [1:43:57] chromatique @chromatique: Oh, yeah. I mean... Yeah. A 100%. I mean, yeah. A 100% Iranian drone blew up to Dubai because, you know, when Dubai AWS got blown up, yeah, they probably got blown up with it. So, I mean, yeah, probably what [1:44:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: it my excuse. My excuse would be like, oh, jeez. You know? I mean, the [1:44:12] chromatique @chromatique: the team is in Dubai. [1:44:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: In a bunker, and, you know, a bunker buster hit it. Sorry. [1:44:17] chromatique @chromatique: Well, I mean, the team is in Dubai. So, I mean, it's good reason that [1:44:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: they tell you. [1:44:22] chromatique @chromatique: Oh, right. You know? Yeah. So... Yeah. Sure. I mean, it is what it is, guys. Alright. Yep. [1:44:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good talk. This was a good talk, guys. [1:44:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Now now the team is in Russia. [1:44:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Also, every time I see Chroma, I think of him as Empress' little sidekick because that's how I know Chroma. When Empress was schooling us on hyperliquid, Chroma was like, you know what I mean? Like, the little sidekick that was, like, kinda running. Was like, yeah. [1:44:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Hyperliquid. Hyperliquid. I was [1:44:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: like, alright. Hyperliquid. Let's let's pay attention to him. [1:44:52] chromatique @chromatique: Yeah. Now now I now I talk about Bond convexity, and she does Yeah. [1:44:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, nobody understands the shit you're saying. They're like, maybe go back. You know what I'm saying? Like, smart enough. Anyways, guys, I'm dead. We we we gotta call it out. Shout out to empress wherever empress is, man. Empress, we miss you. Nat, thank you. Landy, Marnie, d, Brad, Pandera, who engagement from us the whole time. Troma, good to have you, Shaqxi, good stuff, and to everybody, obviously, that came through. Gamer, I tried to let you up, but you have a shitty ass Android, bro. Wait. He's not on stage, is he? No. Mean, I... I [1:45:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: I tried to add him [1:45:23] Kantorcodes | ℏol/acc @Kantorcodes: in a [1:45:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's him right there. [1:45:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Me. No. You can't let him up. It's just not working, gamer. [1:45:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: It says alpha gamer is on stage. His hand is raised. He's like, look. It's... I gotta tell you about the bay. [1:45:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. He's not there. [1:45:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: I got you, Noah. He's gonna say it's not so nice day in the bay today because it is raining. [1:45:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Alright, kids. That's enough now. [1:45:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Why do you know this, Nat? [1:45:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Everybody go have yourself a good Tuesday. Guys, tomorrow, it's like the teacher is not here. Like, Landy's gone tomorrow, so it's like substitute teacher day. Alright. We're gonna watch a... We're gonna roll in the TV with a VHS. You know what I mean? It's gonna be on, like, some weird sex [1:46:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: education video. Supplied. [1:46:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's gonna be ridiculous. It's gonna be awesome. But I love you guys, and I will see y'all tomorrow for hump day. Deuces. Peace.
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