All Things Crypto: How many more hacks can crypto take?

# All Things Crypto: How many more hacks can crypto take? | 2026-04-06 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1rGmqoLnrWLGy | status: approved
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[0:00:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: All things crypto. All things crypto.
[0:00:58] Voice I: Cool lifting weights and portfolios too. Flex on charge gains like deja vu. Discipline drive, you the balance of both. Body in bags, man's built on growth. Nat. Nat. The track
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[0:02:44] Voice I: We don't chase coins. We
[0:02:45] Voice H: chase conviction.
[0:03:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thanks, Crypto. What's up, everybody? Hope you all doing good. I know you guys missed me. Therefore, I had to run ATC today. Although it was debatable, being that it is still the holidays. I'm still eating matzo, lots of it. You know, you guys don't wanna know that story. But happy Easter, happy Passover to everybody that is celebrating. We got lots to talk about today. Honestly, I spent some time catching up. Jack Dorsey rugged us on the Bitcoin faucet. We gotta spend money on Cash App in order to get from this faucet, which is not really a faucet. You know, sailors now top blasting again only on the updates per Natalie, obviously. We love that. And there's a bunch of other news. I wanna get into some drama. I love the gossip. We gotta get the gossip cooking too, but it's good to see you guys. Yeah, man. Natalie, what's up?
[0:03:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: What is up, guys? I'm doing very well. Surgery was a success last week. Still on on bed bed rest, but I can speak. I can talk. I can sit up. It's great. But excited to dive into... And the... Excited to dive into this one today. There's a a lot going on. BTC is still within the range. Oh my goodness. We're gonna get out of this range too, guys. Something's gonna happen. There's liquidity building on both sides. To the bottom is... Well, you won't even imagine, but we'll we'll get to all of that.
[0:04:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: We got... Natalie, like, we're in this mode now where it's like, we've had one down quarter now. Right? We're just like, negative. Two down quarters, and you guys know what that means. So what's the deal? Recession? No recession? Is Bitcoin gonna break through 70 k? Please say yes.
[0:04:54] Voice E: Tell me yes.
[0:04:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: It did it did that earlier. Right? But the thing is with Bitcoin, and I and I continue to say this. Right? Until we start reclaiming and closing above these key area above us, right, we're just gonna just continue to wick and and go lower. Right? We need to break... 70 is a big area. Yes. But we need to break 71 and a half to 72. If we break that, then I can see us go... Trying to reclaim that 76 area. Right? That was a big rejection. We rejected there to... That seventy seventy six k, and we nuked, like, minus 10 k. Right? So that's an that's an... Another big area. So that's... These are two key areas that we need to break, we need to hold, we need to reclaim in order for any continuation higher, 80, mid eighties, doesn't matter. Those two key areas they have to break. If not, there is liquidity, like, building at 60 k and below, and the liquidity that is at 60 k is now visible on the perp side. Previously, the liquidity at 60 k was only visible on the spot side, but as of last night, it is visible on the perp side on multiple time frame. Last time, we had this much liquidity visible across multiple time frames on spot in on Perth, so that that sixty five five, sixty five four area. Now what happened when we got to it is we looped all the way to sixty four nine. Right? So keep an eye out on, obviously, the levels above. Right? 70 k, 71 and a half, 75, 71... 72, and 76. Right? But any aggressive rejection there or any aggressive rejection at 70 k, then we have to start looking at the liquidity that's building at the bottom. Right? Obviously, a failed move higher naturally leads to a move lower. Right? So what that move lower would be, first step is 66 k. Right? A bit below 66 k, then we're looking at $6,065.04, $65.05. There's still some liquidity that's left there. And then that big, big pocket at 60 k in all, and there's also some buildup at 58 k. Right? But we don't wanna we don't wanna sound, like, too, like, doomerous. Right? So I think for us to continue higher, let's see what happens at 70 k.
[0:07:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hire. Please hire. Hire. I need hire. I guess we'll see good analysis, and I appreciate it. Love this. Cool. Welcome, bro. What's cooking?
[0:07:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I'm late. My guy... I guess, doing... Yeah. Happy Monday. Yeah. Happy Monday. Hope you guys had a great Easter. Yeah. I'm I'm good, but let's go. I'm ready for the show. Let's do it. Let's go.
[0:07:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Natalie, did you... Oh, Cool's gonna actually gonna love this story. Did you guys see... You guys remember James Wynn. Right? Like, the guy who literally took his account from nothing to, like, a 100,000,000? Mhmm. And then lost money. Yeah. 0 to a 100,000,000, and he's literally been officially officially wiped out shorting Bitcoin going from a $100,000,000. His account now reads $900.
[0:07:55] Kool @koolcryptovc: Is that is that is that legit, though? I saw that, though. Is that legit for real?
[0:07:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't... I mean, Arkham's tracking his wallet, so I would say yes. You know what I mean?
[0:08:03] Voice E: But How
[0:08:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: how did he lose money short in Bitcoin when Bitcoin is, like, what, minus 50 from the highs? That makes no sense.
[0:08:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: I guess he's trying to play the short game, but I don't know. I've heard this dude speak on spaces, but it's like, I feel like sometimes... You know what it is? People really end up believing their own bullshit. You know what I'm saying? Like, they talk and they think like, oh my god. Dude, you had a $100,000,000. You had literally wife changing money. What are we talking about here? Why in the world are you sitting here now still playing around in these markets? You made a $100,000,000. Yeah. I genuinely don't know. Yeah. I don't know how much this dude is worth if if I'm being honest, but this is one of the craziest stories that... This is the biggest fluff. If you feel bad about... You do this for you. If you feel bad about round tripping some NFTs, don't feel bad. This dude went from a 100,000,000 to $900.
[0:08:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's insane. Yeah. But you you know what? There is a lesson in this, and we see it on on the equity side as well. Right? There was actually books written about people that do the same thing on the equities when it comes to option. Right? You you make money based of luck. Right? Not structure, not strategy, not patience, not anything but luck. And what happens to luck? It runs out. So if you don't build some kind of a structure for yourself, you don't find an edge, you don't build some kind of discipline, you don't have, like, some... A system, what's gonna happen when luck runs out? You're gonna find yourself round tripping whatever it is. Right? That's across the board. So sometimes book... Slow success is good success because it builds that structure and it builds that discipline versus something that's based off luck. There's no there's no solid footing behind it. Right? It's like building your wealth on stand versus building your wealth on something concrete.
[0:09:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Your your analogies are on point today. I'm just saying. I don't know what happened in this
[0:09:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think it's the ibuprofen. Yeah.
[0:09:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: What kind of painkillers you want, woman? I need to know. Cool. Would we still be friends if I fumbled a $100,000,000?
[0:10:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's like, no.
[0:10:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool speechless. He's just like, I'm not gonna touch this.
[0:10:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. This kid's a fight. Have to sell the fight real quick. What was the question? Bro,
[0:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: James Wynn literally fumbled his whole bag. He went from $1,001,000,000 dollars to $900. I said, would mean you still be friends if I fumbled a $100,000,000 bag?
[0:10:20] Kool @koolcryptovc: Of course, we're friends, man. I'll I'll encourage you. You could make it back for sure. I would... I mean, I I won't be mad as you, man. I mean, are you asking how he lost it? It's probably high leverage, man. I mean, of course, you don't lose you don't lose that kind of money, you know, doing a a two x leverage. You're probably doing $20,000,000 trades with, like, 50 x leverage, man. That's probably why he lost all that money. If if he did, which is insane, that that is... That's pretty bad, man. You know? Because, was that dude's name? Morad? Meme Coin Jesus? You know? I'm I'm a believer now in his portfolio. Hopefully, I do well with with with my plan. But MemeCoinJesus, Morad, he he wrote it. It's proposed, I think, like, $6,070,000,000. He now has 8,000,000 right now. But, Lee, he never sold me, so there's a possibility he could make more back. So... But if you leverage it, bro, it is over for you, man. That's pretty crazy.
[0:11:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. A
[0:11:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: $100,000,000, guys.
[0:11:18] Voice F: What in the world?
[0:11:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: The three l's. Right? Men lose it all. Ladies, leverage and boop, and liquor. Right? I'm telling you, it is so true. You guys said, but it's so true. But, Dave, we would still be friends if we lost it all, but I'll be so honest. I'm like, brother, daddy is dumb.
[0:11:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. I I I I also think I also think that I I blame crypto Twitter. If he was trading this by himself, he probably would have, you know, had more self control. But because he was making these trades public and trying to revenge trades and trying to prove prove people wrong all the time, And that that kind of, it gives you, like, like, a ego boost when you win. And when you lose, people come after you more, and you feel like you have to prove them wrong. So I think him making his trades public absolutely changes his emotional... His his his mind, the way he trades. Right? So I think him making making it public did not help, man. Sure.
[0:12:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I agree. I think pride comes before fall. Right? The minute you put your pride in front of anything, it tends to work against you at some point or another.
[0:12:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, a $100,000,000. What in the world? Cool. That was actually gonna be my next point. Like, I think that's a great point. Right? I was gonna say, because he's on Twitter spaces. Right? Like, people are getting in your head. We talk about, like, not being emotional literally every single show. Right? Like, having you... Nat, you say this every time. You, Landy, everybody that trades up here is, like, you gotta pull the emotion completely out of it. But, like, Twitter space is, like, the emotional place on the planet.
[0:12:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: They they... Murad, same thing, bro. You said it in public. Murad, nobody knew who he was. This dude became an overnight celebrity. He was... He he wasn't even hosting space. Right? He was he was being invited to everybody's space. He was invited to the biggest crypto conferences in in in in in the world, man. I I... As a keynote speaker. I mean, this dude, what... He blew up, man. Even in... His social media blew up. He he had almost probably five five hundred thousand followers or million followers. So he was... They called him meeko and Jesus, man. Actually, he has his, you know, CoinGecko created a mirage category on your app. No joke, man. That... That's how... So social media, it doesn't help when you, you know, I'm not saying don't post to wage the losses, but when it becomes that big, yeah, you might wanna don't post anything. It's it's... It doesn't help, man.
[0:13:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: You wanna know something? I I actually watched his his keynote at token twenty forty nine when I went to Singapore, like, a year and a half ago. It was it was... Bro, the guy the guy came out. He was literally a celebrity, bro. He had more groupies around him. I was like, what is going on here? Like, this guy's got, like, the long, greasy hair. Like, what am I doing wrong with my life?
[0:14:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: I can remember on on on this... On spaces, man. This dude, everybody went to invite him, ask him questions. The funny thing is he's probably not wrong. Right? Because even though his portfolio is down, like, 90 some percent, there's a possibility he could come back, man. That's that's the thing about, you know, training sports versus leverage. I mean, there's still hope, but it's just it's just insane to me that he rode it to, like, 60,000,000 and never sold a bit. So I'm like, Jesus Christ. I I don't know. I don't even know. It it it... It's... You know, I I I looked at the portfolio. Right? The the combination of it. I think the, like, 10 assets in that... In our portfolio combined at the peak, it was worth almost $10,000,000,000, man. Right now, it's currently between 300,000,000 to 400,000,000 combined, all the market caps combined. That's how bad it was. But what I'm saying is there's no chance to make profit from it because they're they're basically dead. If they pop off, you might have, you know, a ton of big money, but I'm just... It it is shocking, though. I think the... That dude, the leverage guy with the 100 millions and $900. Yeah. That's that's... They just make a movie about that, man. That... That's next level madness, man.
[0:15:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I feel like I would definitely watch that, like, Netflix special when it does come out.
[0:15:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: There is this
[0:15:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: To get, like... Yeah.
[0:15:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: There is this movie coming out. Somebody posted it on x. He's not he's not a famous director just yet, but it's based off his own life. It's called Positions. And just like that, like, he made a whole bunch of money on meme coins, got greedy, didn't sell, and ended up doing some wild, wild stuff to try to make somebody
[0:15:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's real. Right? Like Yeah. I thought... I didn't know that was real. I... Because I saw, like, the hashtag the hashtag positions. I was like, is this, another just, like, meme coin show? But it's a real move. I thought it was just a trailer. It's a real movie.
[0:16:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. It is. I think it's... He's gonna start the the the screening on April 24.
[0:16:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, shit. Do do you know how much he made or lost?
[0:16:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: I have no idea, to be honest. But I I... According to the movie and the trailer, it's it's in the millions. It's up there.
[0:16:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Positions. I saw that too. I was like, what in the world is going on here? Yeah. Wild. Wild stuff. Okay. Let's let's talk oil and kind of the way things are going. They obviously rescued the the second pilot, which is kinda awesome, like, over the weekend, which is which is really, really good to hear. I'm seeing completely opposite and conflicting accounts about how pivotal the Strait Of Hormuz is, what Wall Street is actually factoring in. Some people saying BS, other people saying Wall Street's doing the wrong thing. Natalie, oil at almost 115. I think it's what? 112, $113 right now. What's the deal right now? Like, where... What... Like, how are the... Because equity markets are up. Everything's kinda, like, looking up right now. So, like, I don't know. Like, what's the deal?
[0:17:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So when when it comes to oil, I think a lot of people are, seeing things... A lot of people are late, just just to keep it simple. Right? They're late on the move. So what they're doing now is that they're they're, stretching out certain narratives and putting emphasis on on on on certain things, just to kind of sway the prices or sway the narratives their way. Right? The one being, for example, I am seeing some wild wild stuff on the timeline. But if we just break it down to just technical analysis... Because this is why I always say technical analysis is key, and it's... And it all comes down to that. Right? Because going back and... Even when we have we we were having this conversation in December, right, a lot of people didn't believe it. A lot of people didn't believe that, oil was gonna run, and we were looking at it just from a technical perspective. We we weren't looking at it on... From the the side of war, from the side of news, from the side of anything. Right? So just from a technical perspective stuff, right, a narrative, just block out the noise, block out the news, block out the back and forth. Oil, WTI, is at a very important overhead resistance. Right? It has rejected of this range previously. So if we reject from there once more, I can see us revisiting below 100 even into, like, mid seventies or upper eighties. Right? So what does this mean for news? I don't know. Maybe they strike a deal. Tomorrow, I believe Trump gave them, Trump gave Iran, the deadline tomorrow at 8PM EST. They're going back and forth with it. I I don't know who runs the Iran and the c account, but they have been trolling that time all day long. So let's see what comes out of it. Right? I think markets are bracing themselves. Markets are kind of pricing in some positivity here as well based on the movement that we're seeing across the board. However, I wouldn't hold back, some news that would impact oil and have oil, retrace to the levels mentioned. But nonetheless, right, we've had spaces, like, around hedging. Right? So if you're... You have a strategy, the back and forth, which is cool to watch, right, and it's very entertaining. Right? We all like that drama. Like, oh my god. He said, what? Did he really say the f bomb? Oh my god. I'm gonna send him a fine. Does he have h bar? Right? That's my mind. That's sometimes what I'm going to. But that aside, I think that the the TA is gonna tell us what's gonna happen. And right now, it is showing us a rejection at this level. Can it continue to break higher? Absolutely. But I would... I I could possibly see some kind of retracement. Granted, I could be wrong. Right? WTI, we could revisit one fifteen, maybe even one nineteen. Right? However, the long term perspective... My long per... My long term trajectory on oil is definitely I can see us going higher. I believe I mentioned it last space that we were in. I can see us going to, like, $1.50. But what what kind of news will coincide with that price range? I don't know. It's similar to December when I was saying, oil is gonna run. What's gonna happen to to... What what the narrative is gonna be? I didn't know. Similar to now. Right? We're seeing a lot of stuff back and forth. Maybe some kind of agreement will be met tomorrow before the deadline, which will coincide with a pullback in oil, and then something's gonna happen after, which will coincide with another leg up in oil. But it's all very interesting. However, this is why we hedge. Right?
[0:20:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. No. No. So I I I I did I did watch this interview with this Iranian professor. I mean, he's he's going viral all over the place, whatever, but he lived in The US for a long time. He's... Went to school here, but he he lived... He moved back to Iran, and he he does a lot of interviews with a lot of western generals or whatever. So he was saying that Iran is not gonna bend the knee, man.
[0:20:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I don't think so. I think you... Go ahead. Go ahead, Will. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[0:21:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. He say they... They're not gonna abandon me, and they... He said they will rather die than basically give up their country, which means whatever Trump has, whatever the deadline is tomorrow, they... They're not gonna abandon me, man. So you you you... We should expect much, much, much higher prices if, you know, they do drop a bunch of bombs in Iran. Iran retaliates and start attacking, the the g... GCC countries. And so, I mean, it it it... And and this is the reason why I've I've been kinda... I've just been very cautious with what I'm doing because it's it's it's it's... I can't be trading against Trump or trading against Iran. It's just so difficult to make a decision because that's the reason why I I can't really do much. I'm DCN on Tao and I've made good money. I haven't sold. I'm, you know, DCN a little bit a little bit, I haven't pulled the trigger yet because just in case we do see escalation to the point where... Of no return, we're looking at some madness madness coming for us. So that's kinda what I'm kinda hoping we wait till tomorrow and see what happens.
[0:22:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you're you're saying I get my one fifty oil before any kind of pullback?
[0:22:13] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, no. You're probably gonna... You're probably correct. You're probably gonna get oil above above way one fifty if The US does go through with the attacks on Iran, you know, because he's he's saying they're gonna blow up everything, blow up the the water plants, oil plants, schools, blow up everything. If they do that, Iran has vowed to retaliate, and that's that's not that's not gonna open the streets of Amos. That's gonna close for longer. That's gonna make oil from from the the The Gulf countries come to almost a freaking halt. We're looking at oil price a lot higher. So... Which means crypto just suffers more. So... Yeah.
[0:22:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, I could see... Sorry. Go ahead.
[0:22:58] Voice F: No. No.
[0:22:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead, ma'am.
[0:22:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: I could see some kind of positive communication back and forth or some some... Because I ran, they literally just... They gave... I believe it's, a 10 clause, thing that said... They they listed out 10 things that they need in order for some kind of a ceasefire to happen. Right? I can see some... Something along the lines of, okay. We'll look into it, and then markets rally, oil dips a little bit. And then it come... And then something happens, and then we see more news that says, you know what? We can't do all of these 10 things, and they proceed to bomb each other, and oil proceeds higher. What I'm what I'm saying is that we need to be ready and just have an open mind to, like, both narratives because the volatility is going to be there. Volatility on both sides. Volatility to the upside and volatility to the downside. Right? So we just have to prepare ourselves for both sides.
[0:23:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. But, what I what I saw with the... What what Iran wants in return, if... Okay. What Iran wants in return, I don't think US gonna...
[0:23:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, absolutely. No.
[0:23:58] Kool @koolcryptovc: I agree. They they they they... They're not gonna... There's no way because if if Iran gets what they want, it weakens the power of The US and is... Israel, which is not gonna happen. So Yeah. What happens then? Yeah.
[0:24:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: But, cool. Remember a few days ago how Trump said that they were in negotiations and how did market react. Right? Market markets pull. But even though it wasn't necessarily true because Iran did come out and say there's no there's no kind of negotiation going on. But what happened to oil? Oil pulled back, markets went higher. Right? So I can see something similar like that happening in order for The US to tame, at least in the interim, right, to tame the oil price.
[0:24:40] Voice H: But when you... And...
[0:24:41] Kool @koolcryptovc: You don't but you you don't believe that this is going to... The the the the markets will eventually get numb to the talk and
[0:24:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: just... Absolutely.
[0:24:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: Because it... I could see it happen a little by little now. Right? But the... It it deal needs to be done, but either country does not wanna abandon me. And you... You're talking about, you know... I I don't know, man. I'm I'm just... I just wanna stop the end. Because I just don't want, you know, people to die. It drives me nuts when they do, and I I I... You know, what's what's what's... You know, okay. So I'm speaking to you. What's irritating me the most is the people that get... That that get hurt are my kids, your kids. That... That's that's that's what's pissing me off, man. Because if this thing is getting resolved and it escalates, gets much worse, the people that will suffer are the younger generation. You know what mean? And it's just I already see now. Right? I mean, things are, I mean, unaffordable, man. I I saw, you know, some guys in in in the EU saying they cannot afford to... They they... They're picking between putting fuel in their cars versus eating. They have to pick the shoes. Right? And it's gonna get worse. Summer is coming, man. So if... They can afford to to to to have a... To to to to to to put put AC at home. They can afford to do all those things, man. So it's it's it's gonna get much worse if this stuff is a settlement. I'm just... I just... I hope it does too. I really hope it does. It it it will make my investing a lot easier, but I'm just kinda waiting to see what hap... Tomorrow, we'll see what happens, though. We'll see.
[0:26:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I don't think... I don't... I think it's gonna get much worse 100%, but I think The US is gonna put up a fight. Even if it's just verbally, they're going to stay... Like, it happened last week. Right? They're going to stay whatever they need to stay to help tame the markets at least one more time before it all goes out of control. Right? Because we... We've seen the president try to do that a few times already. Right? And I think at some point, you're absolutely right. I think the markets are going to stop reacting to that, and that's when oil is gonna hit higher. Right? And then we said it in December. In December in December, the chart told us what was gonna happen before the war. I don't know if you were on the space cool, but I was literally like, guys, I am long in oil here because the chart is saying something's about to happen. Right? I don't know what it... I didn't know if it if it was a a war or whatever it was. Right? But here we are. So now the chart is telling me there's some kind of a pullback. Whether it's from here or slightly higher, there's a pullback coming. Right? Is it going to be the final pullback to tame it and oil never spikes? Absolutely not. I think it's gonna be a pullback to pull the technicals, and then we're gonna go higher. If we hit if we hit one fifty, then we don't reject there, and we start to see closes above one fifty. I think we have... At that point, something... Something's gonna break. There is no way oil is gonna be sustained at one fifty without some kind of a great depression or some kind of a recession. Right? I think that's going... That, at that point, is going to be very concerning, so I could see that happening. But I could see... Like like, what happened last week, right, the president tried to sway things and damp and damp... Put a damp on the oil prices. Is it gonna work maybe for the short term, but long term, I think just like you said, we're gonna... It's gonna get worse.
[0:28:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you... Any of you guys subscribe? You remember Citrini? We've talked about Citrini. It's like like, it's the new, like, Citron report, but for, like, I guess, all these other, I don't even know. Like, real world, like, they try and, like... I don't know if you guys saw this, but they put out a post. I'm not a subscriber, which, by the way, I just realized, like, they charge an obscene amount of money to subscribe, like, just on the bare minimum to what they do. I think it's, a $157 a month. Another one is, like, 1,200 a month. It's crazy. I don't know what these guys are shipping, but, and I'm curious if they have any relation to Citroen report, but they sent an analyst into the Strait Of Hormuz to get a real... Like, to get, like, real world insight that investors couldn't get from just, you know, like, new sources. Because the majority of, like, the info that people are getting is via, like, US intel, satellite imagery, and and so on. They don't have... You know, like, there's no, like, real person, like, on the ground. So this guy literally entered Oman, right, like, with cash, gear, a whole plan, right, like, to go out and gather, like, information. He signed a pledge not to photograph or gather information, but then he literally went on, did it anyway, got into a speedboat with no GPS, and went deep into the street during an active conflict. And it said the trip ended with the analyst being intercepted, detained, and having his phone confiscated. But despite all that, he made it home and delivered an eight hour debrief on what he learned. And that's where you have to obviously subscribe if you wanna obviously see the whole thing. But I feel like people are paying this because this could be something where... If it's real, I mean, I I don't know. Right? Like, who who knows at this point? Right? Like, I feel like I can create a sensational story like this, and people maybe might not be any the wiser. But, you know, you you have a subscriber base, so I would hope that it is. But, like, an eight hour debrief on, like, what's really going on over there and, like, what's happening, what's passing, what's not, who's saying what. And, literally, like, you have, like, somebody that's literally smack dab in the middle of the conflict. So I'm just curious. If anybody in the audience has a subscription to this, I'd love to hear if you actually read this article because I can't read it, and I... There's no way I'm paying a $108.60 dollars just to read this article. Yeah.
[0:30:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's insane. But I I think a lot of the damage is done, though. I mean, I... It's it's hard to say, right, because a lot of people are optimistic. And even in the in the stock in the stock market, right, the markets are are pricing in some kind of positivity here. But I think in regards to, energy and infrastructure, all of those things, and we're seeing a large effect in prices. Right? I think all of those things are gonna impact prices, and prices are gonna go way higher even if a miracle happens overnight in Iran, said, you know what, guys? You're right. My bad. We're gonna stop, which highly unlikely. But even if they do say that, because of the amount of damage that has already been done, we're gonna see a lag effect. And once those prices hit us, it's still gonna be bad.
[0:30:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, no. What what what they're what they're saying is, if if if this trade opens now, they're looking at, a damage of between eight to nine months. But like you said, you know, if this continues for much longer, which I don't... I mean, that would be insane. Your... The election is freaking November for the midterm. You have... The World Cup is July. I don't see this going on pass. Well, the World Cup is in July. You you can't you can't have World Cup going on in The US with you being at war. It... Like, it... With freaking possible nuclear war. We know the country. You have you have the biggest sports events in July during summer. Like like, people can't even travel, man. People can't do any of that. So it's it's pretty it's pretty... It's very, very nuts. So this kind of stuff is interesting because everything is all connected and how cryptos... Cryptos were also weird because you would think... Like, for example, today now, oil went up. Bitcoin went up. Everything went up. I'm like, what the hell is going on? I thought we're gonna dump. That's the reason why I think, yeah, like, $303,100,000,000 dollars got liquidated in, like, in the... In, like, an hour. Because people thought, okay. Trump's speech over the weekend, you know, the oil was gonna go up, which it did, but crypto went up too. So everything is just weird, man. Everything is strange, but they all went down after the the press conference, then crypto went down again. It's... It is probably one of most confusing times I've ever seen. And like I said, the opportunities are still here. I mean, that's the crazy thing. Like I said, I think... Well, I think for me, I just wanna see... Think the best thing to do, man, honestly, does this year, man, because you you can't find the bottom of this stuff. You just can't, man. You really, really can't.
[0:32:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: True. Now, cool. A question for you, because I I 100% agree. Right? We... There's so much going on, so much to happen... Happening this year that it's hard to see a war going on for that long. But if it does, what do you... Do you think it canceled the World Cup? Like, it'll... It's gonna be hard to have a whole World Cup in the middle of a war.
[0:33:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, it's very possible. You... I mean, because if if if you're... If if... I'm obsessed with stuff as you guys know. I mean, me, I mean, I was, you know, I was a monster for eight years, man. I've I've been to a lot of countries about being a war, whatever, Iraq war two. So I'm I'm fascinated with this stuff. But I've been paying attention to this stuff from from from from the beginning. We're day 38 right now of this war. If Iran does retaliate at this at this scale that it's saying, I don't think we're gonna have World Cup, man. I don't think so. Because your... You... If they... If they they said they're gonna they're gonna attack the the Gulf countries like no other, and a lot of oil there, fertilizer, all this stuff come come out from there. That's going to affect every country in the world. The... You cannot have the World Cup in July when you're having the... Yeah. Like, a absolute nuke... Not nuclear war. Like, crazy missile war going on between US, Israel, Iran. And, of course, China China and Russia behind... Iran. By I don't think World Cup happens, man. And if it does happen, I don't think people wanna pay three, four, five, six times the prices for their plane tickets. Because that's the right... Now I'm seeing people post the the the the plane tickets for for... What's it called? For the World Cup. Like, it's it's so expensive already. But if this stuff does escalate, man, this price is gonna be... I I don't... It's... I just don't know. It's... Because I... We've never seen this before. You you... You're having massive wars going on. Are you gonna host a World Cup? And don't you think that's also a huge security threat where you're putting people's life at risk, man. You're trying to come for a walk up in time of war. I... It's it's it's a weird time, man. Very, very weird, man. It is.
[0:35:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I agree. It is such a a weird time, but I don't know, ma'am. I don't know because, like you mentioned, right, they have also midterms. So how would an extended war affect the midterms?
[0:35:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. This wasn't the plan. Right? The base of everything I've seen so far from from both sides, the plan was they were meant to, you know, do what it did in in in Venezuela. That was the plan to go after their supreme leader, and they're hoping to get an uprising, but the opposite happened. This thing was supposed to last a week or days. Right? But they they didn't think it was gonna go for this long, man. This was imp... They plan to be at war months towards the, you know, towards the the World Cup, you know, months towards November, the elections. Like, people are gonna lose their jobs, man. Like... Yeah. And this...
[0:36:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: Politicians, man. They they really they really... They they don't wanna loo... Lose their seats. Eventually, you... You're gonna see more Republicans turn your back on Trump now. You're gonna see more of that heading towards November. And and and as a matter of fact, I heard someone, some Iranian, official, he said, they're going to hold out as long as possible until November elections. They actually said that. So they they know what's going on in The US. They're paying attention to to the to the politics and all this stuff. So it's it's very strange, man. But for me, it... You know, a lot of people say, why why you guys keep talking about the war? War. War. It makes... It's... We... We're all connected because if this war is the end, there's a lot of investment that come out from from from from the do you see countries into crypto, into stocks, a lot of it. So... And a lot of companies want an IPO. No. These guys are not gonna put their money on the line, man, for for an IPO. Right? That's delay of the stuff. So which hurts the economy even more. So everything's not connecting. That's why I'm hoping this stuff ends, either country does not wanna bend the knee. That's the problem.
[0:37:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is the that is exactly what the problem is. Right? Because they're both driven by pride and ego. But here's the thing. What I think, the the markets are pricing in short term war. So if the war goes on longer than the market expect one over one fifty oil, the, the stock market will probably hit a circuit breaker, and BTC will probably go below my target, right, which would be extreme because my target's already low.
[0:37:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: You you... But but but you know what's crazy, though? The bit... Bitmine is buying Ethereum like... Is is is going out of style. Michael Taylor is buying Bitcoin like it's going out of style. They're buying it now at these prices. And I'm sure these guys know what I know or even more than I know. So they're not acting like Bitcoin's gonna go down to 30 or 20 k because they're buying master amounts of Bitcoin and Ethereum at these prices right now. Right? Which which which is also kinda weird because I'm like, why they dumping this much money in Bitcoin and Ethereum now with with all the madness going on. So maybe they feel like... Maybe they have information we don't have, or maybe, like you said, maybe they believe this stuff does end with... Sooner than than expected, possibly.
[0:38:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Your... Their DCA, their position because they bought the top. I don't know. Michael Seller keeps buying, and every time he buys, like, the price goes lower. So I I I don't know. I I don't know. We we we shall see. But I think short term, this... I I do see some volatility. Oil is up right now. Like, I see it going back down then up again. But long term, if the war does go on for longer, I think we're in in in in some in some trouble.
[0:39:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: So, essentially, nobody has a Sutrini subscription so that we can read what this guy said. Damn it. Okay. But, Natalie, real quick because I haven't felt like... With... This is where my head is at. Right? Like, I'm reading everything about Bitcoin. Super light volume. Every time, super light volume. Oh, uptake. Correct. Correct. 70,000, but the options market is saying something completely different. Just when I think, like, oh my god. All the signs are pointing down, down, down. It's always when I make that bet that it's just like, sick. And then it's like, oh, we're back up to $7,580,000. Where should people be pricing this stuff in? Like, right now, if, like, gun to your head, you gotta put something based on what you're seeing from these levels, short or long?
[0:39:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Gun to my head, I would take
[0:39:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Unto profit your head.
[0:39:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I would take profit in whatever position I'm in that's up and then just wait for confirmation. For higher or for lower. I am not trying to to guess. Right? The confirmation will come, and you will position yourself correctly. Right? Because here's the thing. 70 k... While 70 k is a big level, if we do... If it does go ahead and grab the liquidity that's on the top... That's at the that's at the top, we're in for for hire. But what... What's... What what happened this weekend is also very interesting. Right? We had the liquidity at, 67,000 double, crazily double. When I checked it on Friday, it was it was at, like, 50,000,000. And then when I checked it, yesterday, it was over 100,000,000. So what did the price do? It gravitated towards that. Right? So you have different things at our disposal to give us an edge to trade versus just blindly up or down.
[0:40:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Cool. But to your head, what would you do?
[0:40:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: See, like, my my brain is telling me, like, oh, like, everything's pointing to short. But then I'm like, overall market goes short, I wanna be contrarian and be like, oh, maybe I should go long. But, like, this is what I'm saying. This is why, like, I don't do this anymore, like, with Bitcoin because, like, I can't make up my mind. It's impossible. Like, I don't have... I'm not a technical trader. Right? Like, to me, long term, obviously, bullish. You guys know, like, obviously, I hold Bitcoin yada yada. I think we're all kind of in the same boat there. But this is why I don't speculate on, like, like, on the, like, the the shorter term time frame stuff. But, it's just curious because, like, I when I look at, like, different data points and when I'm reading different stories, like, I I never normally say, oh, wow. This looks like a good level, like... Or, oh, this could be a time. But, like, the more and more that I'm reading, everything is saying market pricing in short, short, short, like, everything to the downside. And we can't lie. Like, that's kinda what we've been saying here, like, the entire time. It's, like, short term down. We've been saying freaking 30 k, you know, 40 k Bitcoin. So I don't know. I I don't know. Yeah. Maybe let's get, let's get Naeem's taken. I saw some art came up here. But, Naeem, what's up, bro?
[0:42:04] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yo, man. I've had a bit of a nightmare today, this evening. I'm just, like, looking for my refuel and my vape, and I was like, shit, man. I've got no more left. And it's too late to go get some, so I'm gonna have to go refuel tomorrow. I've got a bit to time you over, but, you know, you know how it is, bro, you're like, oh, shit. Like, you just kinda need at least a refill ready to go. But, yeah, James Wynne was scammer. Good to see he's taking l's. Karma, I guess. And, yeah, I think... Yeah. It was interesting listening to to the to the conversations around the Iran stuff. I think, yeah, like, it's like the boy who cried wolf, you know, when he was talking about the negotiations and Iran has sat there like, what is he talking about? Who is he speaking to? Because we're not speaking to him. I think, ultimately, it comes down to Iran have now got a choice whether they, you know, accept whatever and then try to rebuild. But what they realize is over four years or four decades, they have been the number one target, you know, more or less, minus the... Minus Iraq when they got decimated. But, like, you know, it... There's there's a clear agenda of, you know, them wanting to be taken out, and and and that's gonna happen or or attempted to be... Attempt to have happen, whether it's now or within five years or ten years. So, essentially, they have to do something in order to strengthen their existence, essentially. Right? Like, as it stands as as the country as we as we know it, basically. Because, otherwise, if they don't, then, you know, as with all the other countries, there'll be, you know, a person or government implemented that is compliant with the with the demands of The US and stuff like that, whether it's for the resources or whatever. It's like Venezuela. Right? Venezuela, like, that's what happened over there, and that's what's happened with many other countries. So, yeah, it's interesting. It's a important dynamic. I think what's happening as a result of it is probably gonna be, in my opinion, US is is stranded from an ally perspective. I think they're losing a lot of their allies from this. When you have people like Switzerland, countries like Switzerland coming out and saying, hey. This is this is kind of, like, kind of fucked up. I think I think this... You know, it's kinda telling where the where the world's at on it, to be honest. So I hope it does get resolved. Think what Kul mentioned in terms of who actually suffers from this is is is sad to see. But, yeah, the people are determining what's happening, are living in their palaces and whatnot while the common folk and stuff suffer.
[0:44:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Next thing you know, you're an Iranian socialite living in LA being deported by ICE. Although she was hot as hell. Let's be serious. She looked good as hell. I'm just saying. But, anyway
[0:44:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, you're talking about the the general's niece?
[0:44:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Grand niece. It it wasn't her. She's not related to general. Oh.
[0:45:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, wait. What? What do you mean?
[0:45:06] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: She just got some random person?
[0:45:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. It's a random person. Yeah. She had the same last name. Oh, for real? Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:45:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I gotta hit her up then.
[0:45:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Man, they got the wrong person?
[0:45:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: They got the wrong person. Yeah. Because they they got... Yeah. That's not my niece, man. So... Yeah. No. They got the wrong person. Oh, damn.
[0:45:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I gotta make a trip to LA then. I gotta hit this chick up. What the hell? Hiya. I mean, was hot. You see her on the New York Post at Coachella? Hey. I was like, goddamn.
[0:45:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did did you did you read the article about her?
[0:45:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: I did.
[0:45:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did she stalked her ex... She stalked her ex boyfriend? Let me find out you like him crazy, David.
[0:45:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I did not. Yeah. I did not read that. Yo. Persians are not... You ain't never watched the shots of sunset? You ain't see Gigi? Bro, I watched... Listen. I was married once. I was forced to watch this shit way back when. Listen. The Shahs of Sun... Persians are no joke. Persians are no joke. You do not wanna mess around with Persians. Gigi will cut you. I'm just saying. I did not know that she was not relate... Wait. So one of them was related, but the, like, the younger one wasn't? But...
[0:46:04] Voice H: No. None of them were related.
[0:46:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Then they're just grabbing up, like, random people based on
[0:46:10] Voice H: their life.
[0:46:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's kinda nuts. That is kinda nuts. My gosh. GGs, what are you gonna do?
[0:46:18] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I I I see Pandora here. It's been a long, man. I don't know. You you wanna see some of the Pandora?
[0:46:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm Pandora never speaks, bro. He just farms us. You don't know this by now, cool?
[0:46:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: Nah. Nah. He talks.
[0:46:28] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: Nah. Nah. Deep, don't say that, bro. Like, I'm just waiting for you guys to just... I just don't wanna, like, jump into the conversation like that. And shout out to you, Cole. I mean, Cole. It's it's been a minute. Cole. James, Cole. What's going on, Cole? I mean, this all... The the old topic, I mean, it's it's something I've been following, like, since day one. Like, literally, bro, like, I took, like, three days off from streaming out to zero. You understand? Because I think the news is beginning to, like, affect my my productivity. You understand? Because the the things I see on the screen, know you like things that... Because I I mean, I I experimented for, some days. So I wake up. I pick the remote. I put the TV on. I just start streaming under zero, and I find out that that entire day, bro, my day is fucked, bro. I can't literally do anything because the things
[0:47:21] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: that Yo. You need to stop that, bro. I did this about three years ago, and I did it for months. Like, it's not effective. Like, whatever you're doing, genuinely, like, tune in. Like, if you wanna keep up to date with it. But if it's impacting you like that, bro, like, just, you know, take take a backseat, bro, honestly.
[0:47:39] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that... That's what I do. That's what I've been doing. So, like, for, like, three days, I actually don't know what's going on. So... But one... Once in a while, I I open on on Mario, Nafal's space, and I just check one or two things to just keep. So, I mean, literally, yeah, I feel like... So some... I was having a discussion with somebody like some other days, some some few days, I think a week ago or something. And there was one thing the guy just told me, and I think those stood out to me. It was like, follow the money. Because when you check whatever is going on, there were people that actually bought stocks of this, what's it called, this defense companies some couple of months ago, bro. Months months ago, like, people had positioned. I mean, why would you go ahead and buy stock companies, stocks when... Like, you already know. You... Like, it, bro, it boils down to the same insider trading, whatever, bro. Like, couple of people just came together and, like, okay. Let's make money, bro. Like, let's make money. Okay. Let's just cause chaos in the world. You understand? Let's let's make money from chaos, and that's literally what's going on because... I mean, somebody... Like, look at Barron, bro. You cannot tell me, like, bro, we all know Barron Trump, bro. Like, Barron is is one of, like, the craziest insider traders that that is living on the world right now. And, bro, like, imagine your father is Trump and you are Barron, bro. You can literally ask Trump, what's the announcement gonna be? Oh, go and shut it. You shut the fucking market for, like, $500,000,000, comma, like, 1,000,000,000, and you're chilling, bro. At the end of the day, bro, it's it's it's a money game, bro. I mean, we are just like... We are we are out of this in a way. We are like pawns in in the own in the old grand scheme of things. You understand? Follow the money because at the end of the day, bro, war is war is war is profitable, bro. War is profitable. It's profitable to the defense companies. It's profitable to the insider traders. It's it's profitable to people that
[0:49:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: profitable to Iran too, right, because they're charging people in ships for passing... In order to pass through the the street.
[0:49:50] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: Yeah. I I mean,
[0:49:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think is it?
[0:49:52] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: So Yeah. But that's negligible now. Like, compared to the destruction of the infrastructure, it's relatively negligible. Like, compared... They they have not benefited economically. Like, maybe from a oil perspe... Even then, like like, the the embargo and the restrictions and stuff like that that's been on there. Yeah. They're not living good, let's say, compared to, like, The US, industrial complex. The war... What do they call it? The war machine.
[0:50:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And and in reference to Follow the Money, that's a great take, Pandera. Last year, there was a big inflow into XLE and Oxy. Those two tickers were were were both tickers that I mentioned here and on other on other shows as well. Those printed nicely across the board. Two things. Right? The technical signal, the move up, but also we saw... And I mentioned this before, right, form fours. Whenever you see these big, big buys on these form four reports, they know something. Oftentimes, there's... Some... Someone always knows, and that goes for crypto, and that goes for for all the investments even in real estate.
[0:50:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. Pandora... Yeah. Don't don't don't do that to yourself, bro. Don't do it to yourself. Get away from the television, bro. No. No. Twitter spaces is way less healthy.
[0:51:07] Pandera @Dsgnrayo: Yeah. I'm good now. So, basically, I'm I'm just vibrating, and I'm just... I I think I think it's time to to lock him back on cool crypto... What's it called? The trading shows because I think that I missed that for, like, almost, like, three months. So I think, yeah, I think it's time to lock in. So, yeah, Dave, I'm just chilling, bro. Yeah. Shout to you, bro, and shout to Samara, bro. Shout to cool and everybody, bro. Much love, bro.
[0:51:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Panderas. Good to hear your voice, bro. Samara, what's good, baby? He's back. The ninja blue head ninja. What's cooking, baby?
[0:51:36] Voice F: Yo. GM, JM, Dave, GM, Matt, Matt, Panderas. Shout out to you. Shout out to engine nine too. Yeah, man. It's been crazy. The world has just been upside down, bro. Even over here, like, it's wild. There've been a bunch of killings and, you know, insecurity in the the country. So it's it's getting well, honestly. And the best thing is just to just stay away from the news because it just makes you sad and sad, and everything just keeps messing up your psyche, to be honest. But, again, we'll persevere, I guess. You know? Do the best we can. Protect our families. You know? If you're... If any part in the world, if you have, you know, the license to carry firearm, bro, stock up for real because it's just... It's wild out there. But, yeah, man, we're just still here, you know, still showing up, trying to make more profits. Not really shorting anything because, bro, yesterday, the big c pump was ridiculous. But, you know, got liquidated, but we show up against the... Man, that candy came out of nowhere, but we go against the event. But, yeah, we're still here. Shout out to you guys, man. Shout out
[0:52:37] Voice H: you guys.
[0:52:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Tamara, I I I got you. I got you. So I don't know if you know this, but MarketMonkey terminal download it or or look it up. It's gonna help. It could be... Yesterday, there were... And I'm I'm not sure. I don't know if you heard this, but the liquidity above, at $6,067,000 and above, it literally doubled. So what that means is the price is gonna gravitate higher wherever to them that big pocket is. And because it's so huge, there's a chance that it go... It went higher, right, than that pocket. Right? And that's what we're seeing now. So Market Monkey Terminal, it'll show you where the liquidity is. Obviously, you you do need to, not use that on its own. You have to use it with your TA. I'm sure your TA is top notch as well. Right? But knowing where the liquidity is will also give you an edge, and it'll it'll prevent or it'll minimize the amount of time you get liquidated from your positions.
[0:53:30] Voice F: Alright. Thank you. Thank you, Ned. I'll try that out. Thank you. Thank you.
[0:53:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes, Samar. You're you're you're trading against Trump and, and Iran, bro. It's very difficult to make money, with... Because just one tweet one tweet alone could send the market either parabolic or going to the wrong direction. Or Iran says, you know what? We take a deal now. Market goes absolutely crazy. So we don't know, man. It's difficult to trade when
[0:53:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: You could see those positions in the chart, though. Right? And put Yeah.
[0:54:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: I mean
[0:54:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: You can go. I am telling you, you can. I was in a long yesterday.
[0:54:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: I was
[0:54:06] Voice H: confident all
[0:54:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: see them. Like, the the... I don't know, man. I I guess it's possible. I guess it's possible to see it, I guess.
[0:54:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Mean, I am telling you right. I'm not talking on my app. I'm literally telling you that you... But but you do have to be in it. You have to know what to look out for. So if someone is new and they're just trying to learn this, then it's gonna be difficult. Right? But someone that has been through... Someone that's experienced and know exactly what to look out for, I think they can be profitable one way or another for sure.
[0:54:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys are funny. Samara, listen. Just go back to The Maldives, bro. Like, why why would you wanna be around to this? Go sit in the sun, dip your balls in the sand, and get proposed three. What are
[0:54:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: we doing?
[0:54:53] Voice F: It's money, man. Like, bro, I have, like like, 2,500 still stuck in the whole Drift Protocol hack. I'm I'm I'm trading. I'm losing, like, a couple of, you know, $100 here and there. I'm just like, man, there's there's no money for vacation anymore, bro. The world is going to shit right now. I need more, like, I need, like, a... Like, I need $1,000,000 just from nowhere. Like, I just wanna be friends with Barrant Trump and just be, yo. What's what's daddy's next move? And just, you know...
[0:55:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: You and I both, for real. Like, if anybody
[0:55:20] Voice H: has his phone number.
[0:55:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: I... But for real, like, like, do
[0:55:24] Voice F: you think Bramco's friends are, like, you know, in on all these these, like, you know, escapades when it comes to these news? Does he give them...
[0:55:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: I can remember it very well when having 1,000,000 was was a big deal. Right? Now $1,000,000, man, it's it's it's not... It doesn't go as far as it used to be. So it's it's so strange how how money works. And if you're holding cash in this environment, I I don't I don't think that's a good idea. Either you put your cash in gold or something, but because this... There's gonna be a large currency debasement coming very soon because because this war stuff, they're gonna print a lot of money. Rates, they talk about raise... Raising rates again. So holding cash is is... That's not a good idea. You gotta put your money into gold, hopefully, Bitcoin, into real estate, something something else because the currency debate debates, but we don't see it. And these wars, when they happen like this, they're they're asking congress for 200 to $500,000,000,000, man. They have to print that money. They're gonna print a lot of money because of all this war stuff going on. And and the longer it goes for, the more they have to print. So just... This what what I'm saying is you you you have to trying to make as money as as money as possible, but you gotta find a way because things are getting more expensive. I I told you guys recently I I bought a car, and and I... It took me three months. Just looking at cars and see what what what it was like. And I'm look... I mean, the cars that I I... The cars that that used to cost... Okay. Like, for example, a BMW five series fifteen years ago was, like, 32,000. That same vehicle, twin... A a a a new BMW five series going for $60.70 k now. So you're paying almost double for the same price of... Like like, insane. Vacations. You're going to vacation with your family. You're you're paying double, triple. So we're living in in an environment where your... If you if you if you haven't found a way to make more money than they used to a year or two years ago, you just got poor. You just lost money. You... You're actually poor than you were two years ago. And the... And once they print this money, that's that's probably gonna happen in next year or two years, you're gonna lose more more buying power, which means house are more expensive, cars are more expensive, schools are more more expensive, vacations are more expensive. It's so bad. It's so bad that airlines accounts... Are are basically canceling flights for people that already booked because of... They bought their flights six months ago. That was cheap. And those flights are triple the price now, and airlines are canceling flights, man, refunding money. That's how bad things are now. So what I'm saying is we gotta find a way to make money, man. I don't know what you have to do. I know OnlyFans, but I work for a lot of people, but I don't know, man. Gotta figure out a way to make money.
[0:58:23] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I'm thinking about you, bro.
[0:58:24] Voice F: I'm thinking about you right now, man. OF, coming soon.
[0:58:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm, told the ladies in the... I don't see any ladies in here, actually, now that I think about it. But goddamn. Natalie, I'm sorry. Obviously, you don't count. But
[0:58:39] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: It's 2026, bro.
[0:58:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: We can Nah, bro. I'm not trying to make no
[0:58:43] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Male male
[0:58:43] Voice F: only friends, bro.
[0:58:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. Nah.
[0:58:47] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: MF.
[0:58:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: If y'all need
[0:58:49] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No.
[0:58:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: If any of y'all have some friends or some sisters or some cousins or nieces or old college, like, friend... You know what I'm saying? Like, hook me up. Like, the things are getting tough out here. You know what I mean? Things are getting very tough. I I need I need I need a side hustle that has a side hustle that then has a side piece that then has a side hustle. Okay? So talk to your friend. MetaVision. MetaVision. What's up? What are we doing? We're trying to start OnlyFans or what, baby? No? Nothing? I have a feeling she's not gonna respond. It is what it is. Anyways alright. You guys wanna talk about this Drift Protocol insanity? Oh my goodness. This was one of the craziest things I've read in the longest time. Let me tell y'all, man. But I... Listen. I did some homework, and I figured out... And I sent it in the chat earlier. I figured out how you can literally debunk all of this, how we can prevent and stop this madness from happening because these are North Korean hacker groups. Right? DPKR. This is Lazarus Group. Literally billions of dollars hacked since the beginning of crypto. It's literally how they're probably funding so many things. But the way in which you stop this... And we're gonna get into exactly what happened. But I saw an interview with one guy, he was like, hey. We've had a couple of threat actors from North Korea, so we just wanna make sure you're not North Korean. So can you just say, Kim Jong Un is a fat fuck? And the guy the guy on the other end was like, You you want me to say that? And he's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just want you to say that knowing that, like, if he says it and that gets out, this motherfucker gonna die. He gonna die. So, yeah, the guy was like, and then literally just disconnected from the call. So there's your context for now, but here's how this whole shit went down. Let me set the stage for you guys. Okay? Crazy... One of the craziest hacks in crypto history. Okay? Now the technical breach didn't start with it. No smart contract exploit. These dudes went to conferences. Okay? Not even these dudes. They hired actors to go and represent them at conferences. Okay? Getting good with, like, these product... With, like, the execs at Drift Protocol, talk about implementation, put up a million freaking dollars over the course of six months built this trust, put up a million dollars. Right? Like, what's a million dollars when you can steal 285 of them? Put up a million dollars. Okay? And then throughout all this, as you start having telegram chats and all this cool stuff happening and going on, yeah, we're gonna integrate this and integrate that. Like, these audits don't account for who has access to your multisig.
[1:01:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gone. $285,000,000 over six months. This is the most socially engineered, most incredible thing that I have seen in crypto. I swear I'm just... I'm not surprised anymore. I'm just waiting what's the next one gonna be Because they keep getting more and more sophisticated. This is absolutely, like, insane. I'd like to hear what you guys think. But six months, like, hiring threat at... Like, actual actors to go to this and and pretend that they're this. Telegram groups getting started, putting up a million dollars. Like, this is literally a well thought out and perfectly executed plan where they're like, this is how it's gonna go down, and we are going to be $285,000,000 richer. And they were. Absolutely nuts. Guys, what's next? Is crypto cooked?
[1:02:27] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I don't know. No. No. I don't
[1:02:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: know anymore. Cool. What what do you do with this? I don't even know. Like, you can't... How do you avoid this now? Like, I mean Not. Yeah.
[1:02:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. It's it's... I... It's... This kind of stuff, it's it's a black eye to the industry. But fortunately for us, this industry has grown. We're over a couple of trillion now. So... But this kind of stuff is really bad. I I I... I've I've lost faith in DeFi. Honestly, I've lost more money in DeFi that made more money, and all my losses came from hacks like this. So I pulled out. I took all my money out. I almost take everything. I closed all my lending boring boring position. I'm done. I was done. Because he just... Because I think... Because if if if you if you were were were were to use DeFi and you lose money, you would expect to have maybe... If you got your money back. But if you if you put your money in them back now and you... And you know, they they get robbed, your money isn't short. That is the issue with DeFi, man. So this is horrible, man. And I think this stuff like this shouldn't shouldn't happen. I mean, this is a lot of money, and I don't know. And, you know, the people in DC that hate crypto, they will use these kinda these kinda cases to attack our industry and create some crazy rules for our industry. I hate it, bro. I don't like it, man. I don't I don't know. But it's it's incompetence also, of course. But I I I... I've I've lost Pikton d five, bro. I I really have because I've I've lost. I I don't even know, bro. If I had to guess, I'll say probably almost undercame it. If I had to guess, I don't know. Maybe. I don't know, bro. I don't know. All from all the hacks... Hack for the past four years is I'm done. I'm done. And, you know, the funny thing is I'm actually happy that I I I... I'm done with DeFi. And so now what I'm doing now is I'm focusing on the the big the the big players and just DC and keep my money in my wallets and not locked into any protocol because you can't trust them. You can't trust any... Anyone. You just can't.
[1:04:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, Samark
[1:04:38] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. Because... Yeah. Sorry, bro. See, I was gonna say, like, this was... Like, I think, yeah, it's incompetent. Obviously, it's a very smart con. And, you know, most... And this is the thing, like, DeFi is, like... You know, it's on Solana, obviously. That's that's, like, already struggling from a DeFi perspective. And, yeah, it's gonna be a massive hit off from a from a just general DeFi perspective because, you know, nine out of 10 projects would have... Or companies or protocols would have been caught out with this. It was... I think there was there was two vectors that they looked into. One was a rep rep... Repo, like, you know, how you clone, like, GitHub repos, from my understanding, a similar type of thing. Once they build up that trust, you know, they share, oh, like, well, here we've got an open repo. You can go, you know, have this... Whatever. They've cloned that, and it... That was one potential vector. And then another one was, like, a wallet app, which they had, like, in test flight or something. So that was the other potential attack vector. So, like, OPSEC within these protocols is clearly, like, you know, needs to be... That... Like, this is where regulation is needed. Like, you know, when you... When we when we put our money into things, we want to know that the right security and, you know, guardrails, buzzword type thing, but, like, the the the op sec is on point, basically. Until that happens, like like, you know, why would you put your, you know, hardened Bitcoin or Ethereum into these protocols for the three to five to 10% gain when you have the risk of losing it all and, you know, missing out on... Yeah. Just... Yeah. I've got rogue done, like, so many of these protocols over the years as well, and I've, you know, I've I've I've I've been put off it, frankly. And, you know, some of them, like, I remember, what was it called, Venus Protocol and Binance Marching. That was... You know, looked legitimate and stuff like that. But, yeah, the Oracle issues, all sorts of issues, but that's the nature of the game when we're in this sort of frontier sort of shit.
[1:06:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: There's so many, bro. Like, we can... There's like a laundry list. I'm gonna go find them now. Like, just like... You you... We can literally go down a laundry list of, like, 100,000,000, 200,000,000. Remember the Binance bridge had 600,000,000, I remember, back in 2021. This... It's it's like... It's... It it it doesn't stop. Like, there's always something else around the corner. But it's like, how are you... These... And these aren't like, oh, $5,000,000. Like, any business or industry that sustains hits like this. Like, how many more can, like, crypto take at this point? You know what I'm saying? Or, like, some of these... Yeah. How many more can Solana take? You guys remember when Solana went to $8, and we were just like, yeah. It's cooked. And they just got, like, massive money injection. Right? I think it was, Google or whatever the hell it was. It was, massive. It was, back up, but it's, at a certain point, you can't just write blank checks anymore. I get it. You're creating money out of thin air with crypto, and it's just like, oh, this is fun. But, like, I don't know, man. You can't just keep writing blank checks at the end of the day. Samara, talk to me.
[1:07:31] Voice F: Yeah. I think Drift protocol is cooked. Where they where they recover the money, the funds, or whatever, I think they're still cooked. They'll either shut down or, you know, when they finally unfreeze most of the, you know, rest of the CVO, everyone is gonna take the money out. Me, personally. I lost, $2,500 via Reflect because Reflect kind of... DripRule goes kind of past Reflect money and snap. They just froze the accounts. Like, no one can take anything out. You can't redeem. You can't even swap in USDC to the USDC plus. I've been like some tough with Jumbotron. This year alone, we've had over $453,000,000 in in in hacks just in 2026 alone. In January, we had, like, 103,000,000. February, 24,000,000. March, 41,000,000. And in April, Drift Protocol alone, 285,000,000. Like, bro, it's just ridiculous. And for the protocol that's... We're affected by Drift Protocol, we have the Explace app, Perenia, Project Zero, Ranger Finance, Lulu, DefyCarrot, ReflectMoney, TradeNeutral, Elemental Defy, Fuse Wallet, Vectis, and a bunch more. And I read today that the the the hackers kinda, like, swapped 308. The wallet that, you know, the user is still in the front. Apparently, it's more than $200... 200,000,000 right now. So I think with, like, 350 something million, they routed it via Jupiter and swapped on on, Phantom. They just swapped it on Phantom. It's ridiculous. So, yeah, man. Like, we're still gonna see more. It just... After reading the article drift drift protocol put out, it was just funny. It seemed like ocean 11 or something. Like, I don't understand how someone go through... Well, I guess, like like like you said, bro, risking a million bucks to steal over 200,000,000 is nothing. But in that, the social engineer was just so wild. And I kind of blame Drift Protocol. I don't understand how they let this happen because Solana was already trying to pick back up, and now it's just... Man, like, imagine all these protocols under Solana, over to our protocols at this point, affected by the Drift Protocol hack. And a lot of people lost their funds. The TVO crashed. People will lose trust in those particular protocols. Right now, most protocols are even... They're considering revamping their UI and just changing everything. They're basically, like, changing their company because of the whole hack, which is ridiculous. So, yeah, it's a big hit for Solana. I'm not gonna lie. It's a big hit for Solana. And, you know, hopefully, everything, like, works out for reflect. They said in the next two weeks, we'll get an update on, you know, how to... If we'll be able to, like, redeem our our state funds. I will see how it goes from there. But right now, man, after the whole thing, I went to a couple of protocols, unstaked a bunch of Solada, USDC. I didn't wanna hear anything. I unstaked everything. I just left, like, I think is the only place I still have, like, my USDC. But this, like, this week, I'm gonna just take everything out for real and just I just look elsewhere because, man, it's it's terrible, to be honest with you. Yeah.
[1:10:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better. How much more how much
[1:10:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: more can we take? Look at my title. How many more hacks and black eyes can crypto actually
[1:10:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: There's always one more, my friend.
[1:10:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: But, like... Yeah. And as
[1:10:46] Voice F: far as the bear market, we should expect more of
[1:10:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: this to happen. Exactly.
[1:10:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: Exactly. I'm
[1:10:51] Voice F: putting further shutting down, Susan.
[1:10:53] Kool @koolcryptovc: Is it is it even worse in a bear market? Because bear market is where you're supposed to preserve your capital. You cannot... You lose $10 in bear market. I'm I'm pissed off, man. I'm mad as hell. $10. I'm mad. This bear... Every dollar makes a difference. You don't be losing money or hacks in bear market. No. Oh, boy. That's why I'm like, yo. I'm just... I'm done with d five. I mean, I'm forced. But, yeah, bear market or hacks are the absolute worst because you... That... That's where you need your capital the most, man. You need that capital in the bear market to find opportunities here and there. You you could lose money in the bull and still be okay. Right? But you can't do it in bull... In bear markets because it's it's difficult to make money now anyway. So losing money now is is just is just not not, is is not a good idea,
[1:11:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, start putting your people in a bubble. You know what I mean? Like, bubble boy. Like like, the the tech is sound. They're not smart contract hacks. They're people hacks. The attack vector hasn't been for a while, has not been the tech. Right? Like, they buttoned all that up. Like, the tech works fine. Smart contracts work fine. They're not being exploited. The people and humans are being exploited. It's a tale as old as time. Like, what are we talking about? Yeah. It's like bribing a politician, Matt. You know what I'm saying? It's like, hey, man. You wanna come dance with the pretty ladies? And they're like, okay. We got a suite. You know what I'm saying? Like, at the... In the penthouse of freaking The Wind, and they're like, okay. Next thing you know, there's drugs and hookers, and we got pictures of you, you're like, oh my god. How did I get into this position? It's just like, what? How did we not know this was gonna happen? Oh, you were one of the signers on a multisig that controlled 300,000,000? No way. That's such a coincidence. Crazy.
[1:12:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Don't believe it's coincidence, especially in...
[1:12:41] Voice F: I expect that's some sort of complicated, like, hack, like, you know, some mission... Some Mission Impossible stuff, you know, where, you know, they got... They get lowered down in some cables, like, stuff, and they hacked the system. But, bro, a bunch of nerds just, like,
[1:12:53] Voice H: answered everything.
[1:12:54] Voice F: It was ridiculous. It was just ridiculous, honestly. The the whole article pissed me off when I was just reading it. I was like, bro, I expected some, like, quantum computer stuff. It's, genius hack. But, man, they just offered you hookers and just... No.
[1:13:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen, Morrison. Now let me bring this back to the initial thing I said is when you're interviewing these people, the only thing you have to say is, hey, man. Can you just say Kim Jong Un is a fat fuck? And he... They were just like, that's the best interview question of all time. It's like, he says it, you're hired. He doesn't, see you. I'll see you later. That's it. Right? Get the actors to say it. Who cares? They're linked to Lazarus. They can't say that shit. God. It's not rocket science. It's like, oh my god. We saved the world with, like, a gum wrapper. We've got a MacGyver this shit, for those that are old enough to remember MacGyver. But let me read you guys off exactly the Lazarus Group hack. Y'all remember the Ronin hack, Axie Infinity almost went kaput. Pretty close. $540,000,000. Anybody remember Bybit? $1,500,000,000. This is a cool two bill in your pocket, and that's literally in the last, like, three, four years. Remember the KuCoin Act, two hundred eighty one million. Who remembers Harmony? Not many. Not many do. That was another 100,000,000. Okay? There's so many, and the list goes on and on and on. This is what these guys do. This is their job day in and day out. When that is your job is to figure out how to rob this entire industry. Right? Like, I mean, you have to start vetting every single vector, not just the tech, the people, their surround... This needs to be some CIA shit out here. Right?
[1:14:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, you... All... You know what? All of this makes me believe that if Jesus isn't isn't here yet, he's coming soon. It's Easter.
[1:14:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: He has risen. Way all of it.
[1:14:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Vote for Jesus, ladies and gentlemen. Jesus saves crypto. Son, that's gotta be a movie. Somebody make that trailer.
[1:14:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: This is horrible. Like, there's a lot of people doing some bad stuff and getting away with it. That's insane.
[1:14:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Imagine. Jesus saves crypto position two. This would be amazing.
[1:15:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Get a god candle
[1:15:03] Voice H: on this one. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:15:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: This would be so good. Anyways
[1:15:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: But Solana is in deep trouble, though. I think, I don't know. If it breaks 50, watch out below. Watch out below. It can get really ugly for Solana. I know not everyone believes in technical analysis, but just watch 50. That's all.
[1:15:21] Voice H: I got it.
[1:15:22] Voice F: Personally, I kind of expect... Like, I I I wish it breaks 50, to be honest with you, because I just... I wanna have, like, a bunch of Solana. I I I know I know it might sound like the devil here,
[1:15:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: but No. That is exactly how I think too. Like, a lot of people are, like... They're like, oh my gosh. You know, I keep going lower. I'm like, yes. Go lower. I'm gonna buy.
[1:15:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: I actually have a pretty decent sized Solana bag. So, you you know Aw.
[1:15:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: Think I think the issue is most people Alright. Don't don't have the money to buy the dip, man. That's what the problem is right now.
[1:15:53] Voice F: I mean,
[1:15:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: I agree. Buy the dip, but the dip
[1:15:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: keeps dipping.
[1:15:56] Voice H: Then you
[1:15:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: get the third dip, and now you're at the dip and dip dip dip.
[1:15:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: The dip dip dip
[1:16:00] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: The do the do, I think. Like, if stable... Obviously, the stablecoin, a lot of the people who have stablecoins are probably not that interest... I mean, Solana is a bit different, and so with Ethereum and, obviously, Bitcoin there. But, like, yeah, it's just people are not... Yeah. Like like, there's a... Like, the money supply... On chain supply of, like, money, like, stablecoins are all time high. Right? Like, I understand that's not exactly degens and crypto, like, hooligans, let's call them. But if there is money there, like, I think, you know, when you looked at even more now, the 2,500,000,000 or... Do there is, like, a 180,000,000? Yeah. I think there's money, but it's just people are hesitant to spend it on things at the minute.
[1:16:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, at
[1:16:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: at some point What
[1:16:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: was your entry on on Solana, David?
[1:16:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: What was my entry at Solana? I started buying it, like, $90, like, $90.92, $93 or whatever. So I'm not, like, down bad bad. You know what I mean? But...
[1:16:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Buy a whole bunch, but if it breaks 50, it's gonna go to, like, $20.50. Not. It's like you get $20.
[1:17:03] Voice H: What do mean? $50 away. Gosh.
[1:17:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Alright. So alright. So you don't believe it. Just like you don't believe it.
[1:17:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm not saying I don't believe it. No. I'm just saying. Like, why
[1:17:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: we gotta go so steep? You said $50. Like, you know, we're at $83.
[1:17:20] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. The the the the last time Solana was at $50 was $20.23.
[1:17:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep.
[1:17:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: If you if you... If if if Solana gets to 50 something, you're buying it at a three year discounts. Basically, three years. It it basically raised three years of gains, man. So, I mean, look, that... That's a good entry, man. I mean, you can't go wrong. Right? I mean, if you buy the 50, it goes back to all time high. That's, what's that? A three x? Not more. Actually, like, a a... Almost like a five x. If I go to 50, it goes back to 50 as a five x. So, yeah, if it goes 50, I was gonna go between, Timmy. So I've just been the
[1:17:56] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: issue Well, why would it... Like, I know you got technicals and stuff, which obviously is great. Like, Like... Yeah. But, like, what... Like, know, apart from meme coins it's DeFi is fucked.
[1:18:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: The only
[1:18:06] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: RWA's fractions of, like, what Ethereum is actually doing. Like, this is not... Like, yeah. I don't I don't understand what... They're trying to move it away from MemeCoins, but I don't think they can have a lot of fruits from that at the minute in the... I mean, in the short term.
[1:18:20] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. That... You're you're correct, man. The the... When Solana pops off when meme coin season on Solana pops off, and that's the reason why it's struggling struggling right now. The the app... The the on chain activity is dead right now across the board. And if you do believe humans are humans, which they are with, like, the gamble to the degens, eventually, the party's gonna come back. We just know when. But the beautiful thing about people that are smart in crypto is you wanna position now. You don't wanna wait on someone's at a 180 or 200 again. So look for the the big, strong meme coins or whatever protocols on Solana now and just DCA. And and the beautiful thing about these meme coins is you don't need to dump in $50.60 k, bro. A $100 in Solana meme coins right now could bring you $3,400, man, when you do get meme coins season, you know, eventually on Solana. So... But it it is possible to go to $50, man. I mean, if... Because we
[1:19:26] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: You think that... You think we're gonna get that type of meme coin season again after what we've No. Experienced, like, 2024
[1:19:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: The the market is weird, man. It always does. I'm look... I'm looking at Solana chart right now. I'm looking at it right now. We went from... In '20 in 2020, Shalanda was $3. We went from $3 all the way up to $2.50, and it took basically a year to do this. And it went all the way down to lowest was $11.20 22, went from then all... And all these peaks, every single time Solana gets to high numbers, mint coin season on Solana pops off every single time. Which means if we do get another high on Solana, we're gonna see the the main points of Solana pop off again. I guess the issue is just identifying which main points or which protocols will pop off with the high price. But the reason why it's possible for us to go lower is because the crypto market is tightly hit now to the stock markets. So because of the war, if we do go into a full blown recession depression, stock market goes down, crypto market goes down lower. And that's why it's possible Solana go... Goes to 50 or 40 per month.
[1:20:46] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. I agree. But, like, if you look at the Solana price, it wasn't Solana went up. Okay. Now meme coins go up. It was meme coin mania. Oh, okay. We need Solana to participate in this meme coin mania. So if you look at the peak, it was around January, February 2025 where it was peak mania. Like, when was, Trump's coin launched? Literally around then. And that was the literal peak on top of Solana. And then it had his drop, and then it had a, you know, a higher low from my recollection. No. Sorry. Lower high. And and it's... And I do... I think that that was like, we we will get runners that we had White Whale that was a runner. Right? Like, it went to, like, $102,100,000,000, but that's not the the billions that we saw in in the past. But, like, yeah, there will be a lot of money to be made, but I think the amount of, like, shit that's coming out, I think the trenches are cooked for some time.
[1:21:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do
[1:21:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: not It's feel it's liquidity. Like I said, liquidity in the system, and we can't get liquidity until this war stuff does figure out or end. We we need we need this Iran, Israel, US thing to end. Because if it doesn't, the level of fear right now... I was seeing this level of fear in a very, very, very long time, man. And I don't. It's just people do not wanna buy me. I mean, you guys... People, they they came and buy gas in their cars, man. They're not gonna come buy meme coin. They can't buy gas in your car. If you can't afford to to pay for bills, you're not gonna buy Meme Coins until people are flushed with cash or have some disposable income. They're not gonna buy no freaking Meme Coins. And that's liquidity, and that's what we don't have right now.
[1:22:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Very well said. I do I do agree with the whole Meme Coin narrative. So I do think at the right time, once we we do do get some liquidity in the system, I do think meme coin will have a season. Right? It happens every cycle. Right? We see meme coin pops off... Pop off. We see NFTs pop off. Right? Granted, no one no one can say to what extent. Extent. Right? But if you're buying these, like, who gave us a really good list last time, and those are down really bad. So even if they pop off to half of what they used to be, if you're positioning yourself correctly, you can make a lot of money off that game.
[1:22:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who's buying fartcoin, Natalie? I agree with you. Nobody's buying fartcoin anymore.
[1:23:03] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. Don't do not underestimate the Fartcoin? Do not... Don't underestimate d gems, man. I'm telling you. Well, we...
[1:23:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: People people
[1:23:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: wanna make money, man. Look. It's a recession out here, man. Don't you understand? People wanna make money. What what... Okay. Let me ask a question, Dave. Where where on earth could you put a $100 in and have the potential to make a 100 k, bro? I I 2026. Cool. I agree with you,
[1:23:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: but I don't think it's going to be something that exists. It's going to
[1:23:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: be something that can do. I'm not... I don't disagree. I disagree. What what what I'm saying is what I'm saying is, like, for example now, the the s s... SPX five five hundred, whatever it is, that one is is more likely to do well or a mug or bunk. Those ones are more likely to do well, and they're down, bro. These things were over a billion dollars market cap. Now the 15,000,000. 15,000,000 market cap for a multibillion dollar meme coin. Bro, like... And this is before Solana goes to 50 or 40, whatever it is. So you don't you don't need a lot of money to to just buy. All you need, $20.30, $40, man. And just buy it, leave it alone, and ho... Hopefully, it goes to zero. You're hope... You're hoping and praying. That's the strategy right
[1:24:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: now. We got we got... You know who we gotta get, guys? We gotta get Staxi on the show because her and Bitcoin Jesus are BFF. You know what Her and Murata are, like, literally, like, close close. So we gotta get Staxi on here. Because she was SPX 6,900 Maxi. Her whole bag was SPX 6,900. Really? My god. Yeah. She lost her shirt. Poor girl.
[1:24:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: She sold all the stocks. Go buy. Man.
[1:24:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. She's... She sold it all. She saw... She took hits on Wells. Yeah. Then she started trading gold. I gotta check-in on her. I haven't checked in on her in a minute. I need to make sure she's still got a roof over her head.
[1:24:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Yeah.
[1:24:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Staxi somehow always lands on her feet. She's such... She's an absolute killer.
[1:24:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: Somehow, it's a win.
[1:24:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. She's shocked. But, guys, I don't disagree with what cool... I feel like there's something, like, alpha there. Right? Bean point rotation, it is real. It is... It's real. I did look at look on the chart. Look at the the the cycle. Look at the rotation. All of those things are real. Right? So money will rotate into memes. Money will rotate in... Into NFTs. Right? I do believe they both will will will pump again. And I do think the the... Not all the memes are gonna get, that pump. Right? But I do think those that are under... What's his name again, Cole?
[1:25:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bitcoin Jesus. Murad. Yeah. Murad. Yeah.
[1:25:35] Kool @koolcryptovc: Check check the pinned post. Check the pinned. Just put the the list of it. You guys see the old thing there. Yeah.
[1:25:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: There you go. And and you don't have to put a lot. Right? Money is tied across the board. I don't care if it's how much money you make if you're a millionaire, billionaire, everyone, literally everyone. And you can YouTube videos about this. Right? Billionaires don't become millionaires by not knowing how to manage their funds. Right? Not knowing how to manage their money. So everyone everyone across the board, we have to manage upon how much are we putting in to memes. Right? So we're not saying, you know, sell your house and put all of it in a meme. Right? Only invest what you can afford to lose. Right? So if you're gonna afford to lose $20, if you're gonna afford to lose $50, right, granted none of this is financial advice to your own research. They... This could very well be a dud, but there will be money rotating in it to memes. It happens every cycle. There'll be money rotating into NFTs. It happens every cycle. Right? Unless the cycle is different and everything just goes to zero, Bitcoin goes to zero, and it goes into the negative, everything crashes and burns.
[1:26:42] Voice H: Not always keeps taking the screen.
[1:26:44] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think the the way the way I'm looking at this is just based on human beings are are are human beings. They they wanna make more money. And, unfortunately, crypto is is... It's a casino. It's been it's been, what, three years now? It's been a while since, you know, the all coins have really had a a good a good time or whatever, a year or two. But every single time it repeats, it might be different, of course. But I just think, you know, trying to get in protocols early and it's... Because the way I see it now is market's been beaten down so badly. Like, buying... I mean, I'm looking at these pro... Protocols, man. I mean, the the... These things have a massive community. And the reason why I I... I'm looking at the Murad tokens because he has a big big platform, and he's still tweeting how bullish he is on GigaChad and all these tokens he's sitting on.
[1:27:38] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: When was it... Was... Cool. When was his peak of this portfolio? Because what... Like, you just mentioned something that I'm curious to sort of dig into. So you mentioned, like like, when do you think alt bull market ended?
[1:27:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: Man, I think it was it was around the Trump around the Trump tokens, man. I'm bit
[1:27:57] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Sure. So, like
[1:27:58] Voice H: plenty.
[1:27:59] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Around then... So I I agree, but I think that was very much meme coins only and a very select few coins. You're talking, you know, hyper liquid, you know, a few AI coins perhaps, and even them were very short lived. But other than that, if you look at every single old coin, like, especially legacy ones, they have been down to the right and not showing any signs of life. Like, I think we've had an alt bear market. I keep I keep saying this, but since 2122. And, like, BTC dominance demonstrates that. And we've had a a meme coin bull market for the last several years, and that peak was the Trump thing. So I don't think we're having a meme coin resurgence for some time because that Trump thing... Like, people fail to recognize how much of a... And it wasn't just Trump. It was then Melania, then it was the Malay thing, then it was a bunch of other things. Because I remember it was a mania of, like, oh, who's gonna launch the next one? Like... And it was all in bloody... As Europeans got shafted because I used to wake up and, like, fuckers got got the... But, like, I think that's done. Like, I think, you know, maybe 2030. I might have to change my banner, like, MemeCoin alt season 2030.
[1:29:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: The the the timing... No. You're not wrong. The timing is is kinda weird. Right? But nobody knows when. It... It's really... It's it's it's just... I feel like this. Right? I'm not really big on Minko and Sponsorship, but that's where the biggest upside is. There's no... You can't... We we we... The the days of buying all coins, you know, some DeFi token does a thousand extra ton. But the biggest upside is from the Minkcoins. So, eventually... And the the... This new age of of young people, they're they're gambling. That's how they make money, man. It's it's no other play. And and the reason why I I have faith in this thing even more so now is because the biggest exchanges in The US, for example, Coinbase and Robinhood, especially Robinhood, are are listing a lot more meme coins now, which they they never did before. It used to be only Dogecoin only, then ship only. And now they're listing Paypay and a lot more of my... All other ones. When retail, god knows when, eventually, it always does gonna... It's gonna happen again. Whenever they have liquidity, it's always about money in the system, which is basically gone right now, right, from from retail. Whenever it happens, they can ask when the resurgence comes back. But we don't know when this happens. We don't know. But like I said, it... It's it's it's... We don't... It's been a while, man. Like like, the... Just think, for example now. Right? Look at the rates. The the... To buy a house. Housing in The US. It's... The rates are going back up again, going back up. Right? Which means people have to have to... They cannot qualify for this rate. They have to pay more for a house. They to you have to borrow more money to to afford less. So America's a strap for cash, man. It's been like this for a long time. We've been in... When it comes to a higher risk environment, it's been, like, three years, man. We haven't had a low interest rate environment for a long time, which impacts how much money people have to to buy meme coins or buy the disposable stuff. It's every... Everything is all connected. And, of course, eventually, if... I keep saying event, it could take a year or two. Eventually, it always goes back. It's so weird. Seen it happen over and over and over again all these years. Like, it's it's an... And what's insane is when it happens, by the time you find out it's too late. It is too late. I saw it in my own eyes, bro. I think it was a bunk bunk. People people got a airdrop of bunk, like, $100, and they left this. They didn't... They came back. Ten months later, it was worth, like, $300. Like, what? So it always happens. It's just... It it might be longer to come back, but it always comes back some way, somehow, somewhere. I don't know how. It's so weird. Like, it's so weird. Like, always...
[1:32:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm with you.
[1:32:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool's laugh is
[1:32:14] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: diabolical, Matt. His laugh is diabolical.
[1:32:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I... But but you you you know what it is too? I think a lot of people, they underestimate the power of positioning within a bear market. Right? You position yourself... Yep. You position yourself beautifully in a bear market. Come the bull market, all you're go... All you're doing is selling and collecting money, selling, collecting money, selling, and collecting money. That's how you do it. Right? But I think some of Twitter, they have it backwards. Right? They sell everything in the bear market, and then they buy everything in the bull market. Whenever the bull market comes around, some of these assets are already up 100%, 200%, 300%. Right? And then we're crying because, oh my gosh. I just bought it and went down. Well, yeah, I ran, like, 300 or 400%. Right? So position, don't... Do not. Granted, bear markets are bear market. They can be brutal. Do not underestimate the power of positioning within a bear market. And when I mean positioning, I don't mean buying, like, a house worth things. Right? DCA ing is a very powerful tool. Literally, $50 every month or whenever you can afford to over a long period of time can amount to a beautiful position as well. Right? There's different strategies that you guys can do. Right? But it comes down to positioning big, big, big, big money. They do a lot of the positioning in the bear market.
[1:33:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100%. Alright. So now I'm I'm glad Widow came up because I have an NFT question. Because of y'all talking about meme coins, I have... And and this is also a potential cancel me type of question, because I have a question about a specific
[1:33:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can't wait.
[1:33:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. It's about a... No. No. It's not cursing. It's about a specific collection because, as you know, I rock the wall chain quack head duck. But lately, I've been seeing these yucky ducks, and I'm just like, is this a thing, widow? Like, is this the next collection that is going to pop off? So I'm listening to these clowns over here, and they're like, Memcor is coming back. I need you to
[1:34:13] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: be I got some yucky ducks, bro.
[1:34:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. In
[1:34:18] Voice E: my opinion, Naeem and I had a few... Like, we couldn't get into our discussion, unfortunately. It was late for him, but I'm bearish, hella bearish on yucky ducks.
[1:34:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why?
[1:34:30] Voice E: So they minted, like, 2,200 and some of their own supply. So when you own that much of your supply, it's kind of the same as as a meme coin. You can just dump on your holders. Right?
[1:34:46] Kool @koolcryptovc: Want that? Don't you want No.
[1:34:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: You need them to
[1:34:48] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: control the supply of meme coin. Yeah. Guess what? The the bundling is actually quite important.
[1:34:53] Voice E: No. The bundling is quite important if they're not dumping the entire supply on their on their holders. That's what's important. Or if they're using it in in a strategic marking... Market making strategy. If they're buying into some of the pumps and selling... Or selling into the... Some of the pumps and they're buying in the dips and they're making it basically false, they're falsifying the charts in a good natural way that looks organic. And if they're doing it properly, that's amazing. These yucky ducky people who own most of their supply, it's it's bearish for me. What you want is you want someone who's paid for them to own most of the supply. That's what you want, someone who's actually got skin in the game. So if you say, for instance, if there's a whale, so, like, TMA does massive sweeps. Mike's NFT does massive sweeps. There used to be Sneaky Ninja Pants did massive sweeps. If people who know how to properly trade hold most of the supply, it is such a bullish thing. If you've got people who don't know how to trade holding it, it's shit. If it's... Sorry. Not not. It's crap. If it's, people who, if it's the own team who owns it, it's bearish, bearish, bearish. So that's that's
[1:36:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: my No yucky ducks for for for this book.
[1:36:20] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Woah. Woah. Woah. Hang on. I only just put my piece of defending my bags here. Like, come on. Come on. No. No. I'm joking. No. I get that. But, like, for me, there were... The supply... Firstly, like, you know, they made the high... There's there's... So this was a payment. Obviously, there's a free mint meta for those that are not aware. Like, obviously, a lot of them are free mints, and they've made this... And and lower supply as well. That seems to be matter. And these guys went for about 7,000 odd collection size, and they were charging $15. And there's a bit of hype around it. I think they... Yeah. You... Like, Widow mentioned, they they minted about 2,000 to 2,500 or something of of of the... From themselves, which they paid for. And the rest were paid for by the community. Like, they they was minted out, like, minus that. So for me, like, it kind of like, oh, okay. They've just... You know, they raised this money, then they've sunk it back in to to mint their own supply. It's like, you know, what are they using these funds for? But
[1:37:23] Voice E: bearish, though.
[1:37:24] Voice F: Not Yeah.
[1:37:24] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. I agree I agree with that side, but but then it's like, okay. What they're gonna use it for? There there was talk... Talks about it again. Don't know the validity of this. I've not gone into into depth. But there was apparently some issues with minting. So they've they've got these so that people can open tickets, and I've seen in the survey that people are doing this so they can go and buy on mint, even though it's below mint price, that they can get these these these these ducks from there. But, like, at the end of the day, if if if they're not gonna dump it onto the marketplace and if you want it in the hands of, like, there's still four, 5,000 of these NFTs that are out there in circulation with people that I've minted like myself or bought from secondary, like, I don't I don't I don't feel there's an issue with, like, having, you know, 30, 40% that's controlled by the... That's in their treasury of the the project that's not gonna dump it, frankly.
[1:38:15] Voice E: That's a huge red flag, though. You want the treasury to have such a small supply. Typically, what happens is is that they they dump it on the holders. It is literally no different than a dev dumping a coin into volume.
[1:38:30] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Like Of course. But we would see that. Right? So if... As soon as they start to sell from that treasury, we know, okay. They're starting to dump it.
[1:38:35] Voice E: If they don't move it a thousand times, and, Naeem, some people aren't articulate enough or not smart enough or not... Like, they're still green. They're still rookies to trace things. Like, it's not it's not as black and white as I'm... Like, I don't wanna say that this is, like, some naivety in the NFT space, but it it it is is that, like, they did a pavement in a massive collection in a bear market. So, you know, that to me already instant grift. Instant grift. Their products, their art is subpar at best. So that also screams to me more grift. Like, if you've got people complaining today... Okay. So today, there was a mint, for instance, and it was $1 raffle tickets, into a lottery. And people were saying that that was a grift at one dollar. We were doing a seven seven seven seven collection at $15 a pop in a bear. That's, like, that's the griftiest grift I've ever heard grift. Like, I don't know.
[1:39:41] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: So why has it become a grift now than when you... When people are paying, you know, no point one, no point two eath, no point five eath for mints in the Like,
[1:39:49] Voice E: Not was saying is that people are positioned differently in a bull. And see, I I believe very differently than not not in a sense of in the bowl versus the bear. Like, I believe that, you... The thing you should be stacking in a bowl is Eth or whatever your poison is. I don't have to explain that I'm an eth mass... Maxi, but I don't wanna be holding anything in a bowl. I want it all to be eth. That's all I want. I don't wanna hold any... Or I don't wanna hold any anything. I wanna
[1:40:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I have a question. Oh. If what if floor price ends up going up and these things five or six x? Does the does the thesis change? Like, just hypothetical. Like, does your thesis change?
[1:40:34] Voice E: So I have I have a strat with three three... Like, to get three of everything. One you sell to cover your costs, one you sell to bank your profit, and one you hold as a moon bag. So, again, no different than a meme coin after you take your initials or you take your profits, and then you just hold your moon bag. So, like, that's my particular strat. But if it's a good product or if it's a good NFT project, accumulate... It's... I guess you DCA then in a bear. But I don't foresee anything right now that's, like, at the bottom ever really bouncing back to where it is. Because, like, maybe maybe Pudgy Penguins because they have the IRL assets, but I I still don't see it. Like, I just don't see NFTs ever being what they were. So, like, if you have to hold a moon bag, keep one. If you're smart, sell it and bank the e. Stay No. But
[1:41:45] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I think that what Dave was saying here, like, is this... You know, the mint was, what, $15? Like, which is f 4. Like, again, like, when you have a community, there's a bit of attention. If you're spending... And, yeah, you might say the art's a bit trashy. You know, the project is a bit meh, whatever. Right? Like, but overall, it's a $100 raise. Like, it's fuck all, frankly, in the in the grand scheme of crypto. So when you say, like, oh, you know, the little guys or, you know, all these other little projects that no Hoshi project, would you believe that they should conduct their mints for completely free and not raise any substantial funds for them to build out the project and just conduct a free mint and rely on royalties or some revenue model? I think that's a fucked up system. I think that's not gonna be sustainable in any shape or manner for any projects within the space. I think we'll just have it.
[1:42:30] Voice E: If it was a project, and, like, I don't wanna go too long winded because I know Nat Nat has her hand up. But if it's a project with some sort of... Don't get mad at me for putting
[1:42:42] Voice H: your name, Na'im.
[1:42:43] Voice E: Okay. So yucky duckies was a fresh Twitter, and the Centimeters was in... As far as the Centimeters world goes. So, like, fresh Twitter, I didn't actually put it through Magusto, so I don't know if it was reused. But, like, honestly, there was not a whole lot of
[1:43:06] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: use an end change February 2025. Stop putting my bags. Yeah.
[1:43:09] Voice H: We we do.
[1:43:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on. Can I? And and I'll say there's no good on that. But
[1:43:12] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: September. Sorry.
[1:43:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Widow, can I sell you on golden yuckpot access, exchangeable backgrounds, air
[1:43:20] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: 18 and hellet? LFTs. What do you mean?
[1:43:23] Voice F: I'm gonna get
[1:43:24] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: a board date.
[1:43:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: A private Discord.
[1:43:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yuckus I told you what
[1:43:27] Voice E: I did with sounds official
[1:43:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I took...
[1:43:30] Voice E: No. I told you what I did with my with my mutant, Naeem. I told you what I did with my mutant. Like, there's nothing there is nothing I want more than to bank ETH. That's it. That's, like, literally... I don't... If I could have not a single fucking NFT in my wallet and have nothing but piles of ETH, I would be the happiest lady in the world.
[1:43:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. I think this is the first time I've I've seen this Maxi. That's beautiful. So, Widow, what's your bear market target for ETH, and what's your bull market target?
[1:44:04] Voice E: Oh, okay. So I I... K. Hold on. I'm just switching apps here, and I'm pulling up my my trading view for my TA. So, basically, I stabled everything. Like, I stabled SOL. I don't own a single soul, like nothing. Zero soul. I stabled it all at 02:45, and I stabled all of my ETH at 02:49. So now here's the thing is that I hate politics, and I hate world events. So, typically, like, I was listening to you guys speak earlier in regards to, oil and the war and the orange man, and I don't fucking care. But I have to kind of care, unfortunately. So, like, right now, what I'm looking for for ETH as a good, like, repurchase entry buy is I'm looking between the 18 and 1,900 mark, but that's just me, conservatively. I I don't care because I sold it all at 49. So anything they enter lower than that, but I'm looking at about the $181,900 mark for buying. Now back to selling. If we... Honestly, if we go above 4,900, I'll probably sell it all again. But in an ideal world, we're looking at 5 k, and I'd sell again, like, in and around the 49 to 5 k. Because I'm not sure what ETH is going to do. Bitcoin is king. It's so slow and lazy, and I hate it, but it is what it is.
[1:45:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. This just didn't also, Naeem. We might be in trouble. I'm just looking at the LinkedIns that they put on their team... The team behind the mess. Kenny Peterkin and Jennifer Peterkin. Why does it sound like, like, serial killers?
[1:45:58] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: On LinkedIn.
[1:45:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. LinkedIn literally started May May.
[1:46:02] Voice H: You said it sound like serial killers? Yeah.
[1:46:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: May 2025, and there's literally, like, zero posts on their on their LinkedIn. So just like, hey, man. We're start this up, and they just got a little lazy. And then they're like, oh, yeah. We got LinkedIn. Let's let's, let's put the LinkedIns on there. But, also, I... This is this is my... Like, Listen this one. This was my favorite. When in the about under Jennifer Peterkin, it says, I'm a multi passionate entrepreneur.
[1:46:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god.
[1:46:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: A multi passionate entrepreneur. I don't even know what that is, but shout out to Jennifer for being multi passionate. I need some of that in
[1:46:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: my life.
[1:46:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you tell if he's passionate? Multiple multiple
[1:46:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: She's multi passionate. Yeah. Yeah. Don't hate. Alright? Don't hate. You guys are just jealous. You guys wish you were multi passionate. I
[1:46:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: do. I I... With a great great take. I... I'm looking at it too zoomed out, maybe or to, like, five or ten years out, too much in a macro thing. But I could see it going to, like, 10, maybe even 18. Not right away, but, like, maybe five to six years out.
[1:47:05] Voice E: And I I don't disagree with you, but I just think that there's so many opportunities in between then and now to swing it. Right?
[1:47:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's very true.
[1:47:13] Voice E: Yeah. And, like, hey. When in doubt, zoom out. That's... Like, you gotta Yep. It's... That's... So,
[1:47:21] Voice E: oh, on other news, I'm apparently being challenged to a trading competition tomorrow, and it is... They're doing it on the one minute fucking Wow. Damn charts. And I'm like, I'm gonna embarrass myself because I trade, like, daily weeks. Me too. Like, that's... Yeah, so wish me luck. I need all
[1:47:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go home.
[1:47:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Good luck, girly. You got this.
[1:47:47] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: When people become s Maxes and BTC Maxes Yes. I mean, for me, was when people became b
[1:47:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: s scenes.
[1:47:54] Voice H: That's Did he say s? I call
[1:47:56] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: it s. Yes. Yes. Laugh it out. Laugh it out. I'm usually used to it. So... But... So BTC Maxis. When I remember going to, like, events and, like, speaking to people and, like, yeah, for cold coins, like, literally, I'm just a BTC Maxi now and stuff like that. That is often a bottom signal. And now when you when you see Ethereum maxes or go to ETH maxes, okay, for you for you people out here who pronounce it as such, yeah, that's a sign. It might be NFT season soon, guys. Like, I think NFTs are back spending.
[1:48:29] Voice E: If you look at certain, things that happen in the world, excuse me, that, when... It's kind of weird. A patterns pattern recognition is super important. So the last time that Pokemon cards kind of got the same hype that they're getting now was right before, NFT season last time. So, like, real world collectibles, basketball cards, Pokemon cards, etcetera, etcetera. And we're going through that same kind of meta right now. I know people are just getting bored, but it seems to be a pattern. Right?
[1:49:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. And the collectibles market, I'm telling you, man, like, it's it's... This this is the trend bucker of trend buckers. So be very careful with the, with the collectibles market. If you're if you're holding stuff, I mean, you you know, down markets, I've seen... When when we went to the downturn in 2022, I saw the collectibles market absolutely go bonkers and go nuts. Absolutely wild when I was seeing some cards sell for, via golden auctions, on eBay. It was absolutely insane. So be very careful. But, guys, that's all I got. It's $7.20. Amazing, amazing space. Widow, thank you for coming up and obviously sharing that insight. Naeem, appreciate you. Samar, great to see your blue haired face. Pandara, the same. Nana, as always, I love you. Appreciate you. Shout out to Cool. And to everybody that came through, we
[1:49:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: missed you.
[1:49:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. To everybody that came through, missed you guys. Man, MV Corona, I see you, Shiv. Milo, good to see you guys. Cold chilling. What up? Yo. Web three sensei put in the comments to to Samara after he told him that he got clipped on the Drift protocol hack. He goes, Hakuna Matata, Samara. That is crazy, Sensei. Hakuna Matata. It is what it is. Baldi, shout out to you, Sinelli.
[1:50:14] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Oh, by the way, my nickname... New nickname, bro, is sim... No. Mufasa. Someone called him Mufasa the other day. Because I got orange one.
[1:50:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did you see the meme? And I know and I know we gotta go, but did you see it was over Instagram where they asked the guy who's singing the song, what does the song mean? And he's like, oh, there's a lion. There's a lion.
[1:50:40] Voice H: Come and get you. Alright.
[1:50:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. Enjoy your night, guys.
[1:50:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. But I'd be profiting as we're at all.
[1:50:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll see you guys tomorrow, man. Good stuff. It was good to be back. Peace.