All Things Crypto: REAL QUACK REAL QUACK

# All Things Crypto: REAL QUACK REAL QUACK | 2026-04-09 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1AxRnaRebeXxl | status: approved
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[0:00:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did I walk into a wall space? Like, what what what...
[0:00:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I gotta ruin my music. Oh my god. I couldn't play the I couldn't play the intro anthem because, like, you ever been in a house filled with a bunch of, like, hungry Jews, like, waiting for Passover to be over? They're just, like, feeding for pizza. I can't do it. Okay? It's still... I still have another three hours to go. So take what you can get. Bing g... Bing g m f for some believable. Oh.
[0:01:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. M f for
[0:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
[0:01:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: You are not gonna come up with your impostor syndrome right now. I will tell you right now. Okay? Dar... You know what? I'm gonna let Darko up for a quick second. Nat, you have no idea. Darko came into his space the other day and was just like, oh. And if any... He literally played the Chinsanity, like, Marvel here. He was like, Avenger. And we will... I was like, what is going on right now? This is crazy, crazy work. But let's see what he does again. Let... Let's see if Dhaka, mister 21 year old Dhaka, has the cojones.
[0:02:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, nice. I'm 25. Yeah. Oh,
[0:02:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: no way. Some people my age, no way. This is great.
[0:02:24] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Well, watch what he said. Nah. Nah. He might be thinking you're trying to hunt with him.
[0:02:28] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:02:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Be very, very careful. Hold on. Darko, before you... This is the first. I'll tell you right now, Darko. Before I go to anybody else, I'm gonna go to you, Darko, and see if you're just trying to engage me for me because you hit the request button hella fast the second you got in here. And I wanna see if you're actually going to give me... Okay? Hold on. Wait. Let's see. I thought I let Darko break. Hey, Darko. What's up? How are you? You're the first intro today.
[0:02:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What's up? What's up, fam? I'm good. I'm good. What about you?
[0:03:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no intro for us today? No intro music? Nothing?
[0:03:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Wait. Wait. Let me let me... Wait. Give me some time.
[0:03:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Everybody, I want you to listen to this very carefully. Listen to this very, very carefully.
[0:03:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: In the meantime, what's very funny, Dave, is that you and I were having a conversation yesterday. Like, Nat, I won't be back until next week. I'm like, okay. It's fine. So I, out of the goodness of my heart, put out
[0:03:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: a post saying that ATC would be back next week. Right? And then I logged back into Twitter, like, twenty minutes ago,
[0:03:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: and I say we have a space. I'm like, this guy.
[0:03:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: I feel I feel like...
[0:03:44] Moni @monitalan: I was very confused. I was
[0:03:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: very confused.
[0:03:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I feel like the term you want the term you wanna use is this MFer, I think, is really what you really wanted to say, which is fine. But here's my thinking behind this, Natalie, is, look. At the end of the day, it's like, figured I ran a space this morning, which, by the way, had Justin Sun on. And if anybody looked at the numbers, me and 1,000,000 of my Asian bot friends were all in attendance. That's 1,000,000 with an m. Okay?
[0:04:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's a lot of bots.
[0:04:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: That... Didn't say it was bots. Did I say that? I said it was my
[0:04:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: You did?
[0:04:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Friends. I said
[0:04:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know, you said Asian bot friends.
[0:04:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I said friends. I said I said friends.
[0:04:23] Moni @monitalan: That doesn't count for monetization. Right? It should, but it doesn't. Right?
[0:04:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know, Monica. It should, but it doesn't for whatever reason. But hold on. Let's let Darko perjure himself very quickly. But, Darko, go ahead with your intro.
[0:05:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Now wait. Now, Dhaka, wait. Wait. Wait. Now go on mute for a second. Monica, you've been in many spaces. Does that sound familiar at all? Please tell me that that... Does that sound familiar at all?
[0:05:15] Moni @monitalan: Yes. It does.
[0:05:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: It does, doesn't it? Who does it sound like? Do you know who that person is?
[0:05:20] Moni @monitalan: I I I think it sounds like somebody who has a very active Sora account, but I forget his name.
[0:05:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Really? See.
[0:05:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: See. See. You know?
[0:05:31] Moni @monitalan: No. No. What's... It does sound like you, by the way. But No.
[0:05:35] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Not me.
[0:05:36] Moni @monitalan: Not me.
[0:05:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. But I
[0:05:37] Moni @monitalan: don't remember who does it. I don't remember Ginsanity does it. Kinsanity. It's...
[0:05:43] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. But IP law, I'm Dhaka's lawyer, and Kinsanity cannot have trademark or any IP rights to something that he does not own.
[0:05:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: So Oh, there you go. Crazy.
[0:05:53] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: He's not added any creative additional thing to it. So,
[0:05:56] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Dhaka, do as you please, bro. Make it yours.
[0:05:59] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Make it yours.
[0:06:00] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Bro.
[0:06:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bro. Bro. Today, I was here to to make a confession that I'm I'm here to apologize, Dave, for for stole... Stealing the trademark of Shinxenity because Oh. He thinks
[0:06:16] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I'm your lawyer, literally. I just said you have Bro.
[0:06:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bro. Bro, he thinks that on this intro, but I don't even...
[0:06:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. Starka, are you saying that you're owing me an apology because you know you did it deliberately and that I was correct?
[0:06:35] Moni @monitalan: You don't have
[0:06:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: to answer that. You don't have to answer that.
[0:06:38] Moni @monitalan: What? Shut up. Shut up. No.
[0:06:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. Dave, don't don't connect other way, bro. Mhmm. Bro, listen.
[0:06:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: So you're apologizing.
[0:06:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So you're
[0:06:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: apologizing for nothing is what you're saying?
[0:06:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dark.
[0:06:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Because you are coming up with a bullshit. I don't know when did... Hey. When did Infinity made that intro?
[0:07:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somebody somebody DM'd. That's literally been his intro for years. Every space he goes into when comes up to sleep, it's,
[0:07:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Assemble. And then he says, what's up, everybody? And his mic does sound better than yours. I'm just saying. I'm just letting you know, Darko.
[0:07:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Damn, bro. Bro. Bro. It's my first year in that battery.
[0:07:31] Samara @thee_samara: Please Uh-huh. Pardon.
[0:07:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Stop stealing from people. Stop stealing from people if you wanna take a good year.
[0:07:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bro, you just make me a tea, bro. Come on.
[0:07:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Fine. Fine. Also, a little controversy helps, by the way. I will help propel you to superstardom just so you know. So you should... If you know what's good for you, just keep it going. But what but what's up in
[0:07:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: front me?
[0:07:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[0:07:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wait. Wait. Before before we go on Yes. Shout out to rabbit holes. Shout out to rabbit hole. The... It's dog. No. No. Servant. Do follow her, guys.
[0:08:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, shout out to the rabbit hole. Okay.
[0:08:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Where's the rabbit hole? Wait. Where's the rabbit hole?
[0:08:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oy. DocNooNoo, come back up. DocNooNoo does this where she comes up and then she feels like misses her opportunity and then she goes down. It's the weirdest
[0:08:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think it's her phone.
[0:08:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's not her phone. I mean, yes. She does have... What's it called? She's terrible. Did she
[0:08:23] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: ask where the rabbit hole is?
[0:08:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Where's the rabbit hole? What what are we talking about?
[0:08:27] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I can...... Place.
[0:08:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. She's back. She's back. She's back. Let let let the let the founder speak for herself. Here
[0:08:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: we go. Monica. Monica, it's a community for big assholes. You know?
[0:08:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well,
[0:08:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: who's gonna pay that one, David?
[0:08:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, he
[0:08:58] Moni @monitalan: literally Are you everybody's lawyer?
[0:09:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Naeem's a doc. He's a doctor. He's a dentist. He's a marketer. He's a lawyer. He does it all. Naeem does everything. No. No. I love how dark...
[0:09:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: How darker confused me and Monica. It's the accent, isn't it?
[0:09:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. It's not... That was... I wasn't gonna say it, but you racially profiled, but it's fine. DocNooNoo, what's up? You wanna tell people what the rabbit hole is?
[0:09:19] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Hi, DocNooNoo.
[0:09:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hi, Natna. Hi, DocNooNoo. How are you, queen?
[0:09:26] Moni @monitalan: I missed you, mommy.
[0:09:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, I missed you too.
[0:09:31] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Sorry. I don't know what you guys were talking about the rabbit hole because every time I requested to come up, my ex would crash. It would... That she just all shut down the minute that you accepted the mic, so I don't know what I missed.
[0:09:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So Dhaka said he loves the rabbit hole. I don't know what what he's referring to.
[0:09:47] Moni @monitalan: I think he might actually be talking about a rabbit hole. Like... I I don't
[0:09:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: know. Would just...... Can you complain?
[0:09:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I would just shill it. No. We don't want darker talking anymore. Just shill it already and just be done with it, please.
[0:09:59] Moni @monitalan: You don't want to. Ask Naim to. I don't like shilling shit.
[0:10:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bro, Dave. Oh my god.
[0:10:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm assuming it's
[0:10:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: a hole
[0:10:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: that a rabbit goes down on. Right?
[0:10:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What
[0:10:19] Moni @monitalan: and block.
[0:10:19] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Oh. What
[0:10:20] Bread @_ToastMalone: the hell is happening here?
[0:10:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: What is going on? They've been losing control of the space. Well, I
[0:10:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: haven't been open... We haven't been open five minutes, and it's already anarchy in this space. Wow.
[0:10:29] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You need
[0:10:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: to come back to America ASAP, bro.
[0:10:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I need to get back here ASAP. I get... Get back here. You hear me? Get back to The States ASAP.
[0:10:41] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: No. No. You said stay in Canada. You said get back here. I heard it.
[0:10:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. No. No. I need to leave.
[0:10:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Please. M d's here.
[0:10:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, god. We're gonna get Starlink for darker also. Everybody, we're gonna start a GoFundMe for Starlink for darker too, I guess, this point. Yes, Nulu. Go ahead.
[0:11:01] Moni @monitalan: I'd like to make a complaint to the manager of ATC, please.
[0:11:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, I got you. Yes. Yes. I got you. Alright. This is crazy. Feel free. Okay. So if
[0:11:11] Moni @monitalan: you can't just keep rugging spaces. Like, you cannot set up expectations and groom us to be here Monday to Thursday, five till seven, and then just not show up. And then we're, like, literally left. People are in DMs shaking and, like, yo, guys, someone start a space. And, yeah, you can't do that. It's... I want compensation for emotional distress.
[0:11:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Dave said he got you. Do you have a eight bar wallet?
[0:11:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. That is not true. I did not say I got you or I got anybody else. That's it. Alright? You know what, you guys? This should be a lesson to every single one of you. You understand? Every one of you should be appreciative, okay, when either one of us opens up an ATC. Alright?
[0:11:50] Moni @monitalan: So maybe be a little bit more... Like, maybe show up a little
[0:11:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: bit more. Maybe retweet a little. Although, actually, no. You guys do retweet everything. I I can't I can't front. You guys actually... You guys are kinda awesome.
[0:12:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: I can't fairness in all fairness, Dave just did ask me to open up yesterday, but he did tell me that he was unable to join. And I figured, what's an ATC space without Dave? And then I I tagged Cool in the comments, and he didn't get back. And I'm like, okay. He's with his family, and then Monica couldn't make it. And I think Brad was available
[0:12:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: because of life.
[0:12:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I was like, you know what, guys? Okay. Well, we don't wanna... We don't have the cohost, so let's just... And and... You guys... No.
[0:12:30] Moni @monitalan: No. You guys double rugged me yesterday. Yesterday. So David told me that Nat Nat might open a space, and I was like, yes. Let's fucking... Oops. Sorry. Let's let's let him go. And then there was nothing. Like, I was stalking your page, and there was just nothing.
[0:12:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I know you were stalking my page. I saw it, girl, but I I I appreciate the stock. Like, I appreciate it.
[0:12:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: You guys are
[0:12:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: insane. But after Dave and I, we we spoke, he let me know what was going on, that he was with his sister and she was gonna murder him. And so I was like, okay. Well, I don't want you to be murdered or anything. You know, you guys are celebrating the holidays. So I figured this is the
[0:13:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: right thing, even if
[0:13:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: you yesterday, wasn't
[0:13:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was gooning in, like, one of the, like, the... In in Escher's space, and I was just like, oh my god. I didn't even realize what time was. You're like, should I open? It's 05:35. I'm like, oh my god. Gotta get off this thing. Was like, everybody's starting to come home now from, like, the late lunch. I'm like, they're gonna kill me if they hear me on this thing. Like, let alone all the nonsense that I was spewing on that space. But...
[0:13:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So anyway, long story short, I I I was thinking about...
[0:13:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who are you googling with?
[0:13:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: I was thinking about opening the space, but I I I didn't have Cool available, and Dave wasn't available. So I figured let's wait until they both were available.
[0:13:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love this. Also, the results are in, and there was 20 votes in total. And it looks like Widow is officially the winner of the poll for the wall chain games week number four. Widow, there will be no recount, just FYI. Then we are gonna take these 20, votes results even though we know it's total nonsense, and there was obviously some Nikita issues. But how do you feel for winning your first Quackhead and being on Wallchain games?
[0:14:05] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Well, now I'm going to have to create a Phantom wallet in order to receive this quack head. So, I'm not sure how I feel about that, but I'd like to thank everyone who voted for me. I'd like to thank that fun stream we had. And biggest thanks is to Naeem because he was, like, go vote widow, which is, like, the most insanely amazing, awesome thing for an opponent to do. So I'm sending out big giant purple hearts to Naeem.
[0:14:38] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I respect to you, man. Like, out of you... Like, no. I'm a I'm a serious little bit of... I'm not often serious, but now respect to someone going out of comfort zone, like, to to go onto the stream and, like, short notice. Like, I know Dave mentioned it. That was it last night or something. And, yeah, respect for that, man. So well played.
[0:14:58] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Thanks. Because it was, like, at 09:30AM my time. So, like, I don't know. It was cam on. So, like, I had to get up and shower. Like, you guys, that's, like... Normally, I just bum around, pull up my laptop. I typically shower at, like, 02:00 in the afternoon. I got up at 06:30AM. It was not... It's not even hair wash day. I washed that. I washed that hair for you.
[0:15:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's huge. You washed your... If you washed your hair, it... Wow.
[0:15:25] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: And I blow dried
[0:15:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: it now.
[0:15:27] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Wow. Washed it and blow dried it.
[0:15:30] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Holy moly. Look at you.
[0:15:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: This must have been a a big one. Very important.
[0:15:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crazy. This is insane. Now we gotta No.
[0:15:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: This is washing your hair on a non washed day than big.
[0:15:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Bro, this is even insane when you think that widow did all that to attract a virgin, bro.
[0:15:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: I can barely hear him.
[0:15:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Said something about attracting a virgin. I don't know. Darko, you're derail this whole shit. But can can we get the can we get the show started, please?
[0:15:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Please. Well, based on the title, I'm assuming it's gonna be actual on one.
[0:16:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I I think this is a pro... This was apropos. You know what I'm saying? This was totally apropos. Bad... There's no way you can come off the mic hot like that. You just came up. Don't you dare come off the mic hot like that. This is... Guys, there is rules in this institution. Do you understand? You cannot just come up hot and just say whatever the f you want. The show needs to start. Okay? We're sixteen minutes in. You did all your pleasantries. You took the piss out of me for a little bit. Shout outs to Naim for having orange hair and being such a good sport and kumbai fucking you. Alright?
[0:16:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Woah. Well, alright.
[0:16:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. Alright. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's my first day back. Don't I get don't I get a little buffer from my first day back? This has been pent up forever. No.
[0:16:42] Bread @_ToastMalone: Free to bet.
[0:16:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I've also I've also been eating matzo for eight days, people. Have a little... You know what I'm saying? Like, I I literally haven't... Like, I haven't shit right for, like, eight days. This is... It's ridiculous. It's insane. I have no idea the struggles that my people go through. You know what I mean?
[0:16:57] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. No way. Look what I just pinned. Look what I just pinned. This is what the space sounds like right now.
[0:17:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can't see it. But while we while we while we wait for it to come up, cool. Can you bring some order that is insanity, please?
[0:17:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Hey. Hey. Guys doing, man? Happy Thursday. Yeah. No. No. If this is all good, I think we could talk about the, you know, the markets as usual, how oil and Bitcoin and crypto and the straight of our moose are all aligned and
[0:17:26] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Oh, not not even right
[0:17:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: when she said that Yeah. Was gonna pull back.
[0:17:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: Sure. Sure. Sure. It's it's... Everything's all weird, man. I mean, pay pay attention very closely, and I saw Bitcoin up and oil was up. Yeah. Then Bitcoin went higher, oil came down lower. I'm like, I'm just confused, man. Everywhere... It's it's it's very odd. Things are weird. But like I said, I'm still enjoying the markets. I think a lot of money still be made, but, yeah. So I... Like I said, I'm I'm waiting I'm waiting to see what happens. Because this weekend, is is... I'm sorry. The delegates from The US and Iran, they meet in, is... Islamabad this weekend, Saturday. So, hopefully, we'll see what happens. Is this... Sell the news? Are we dumping after the news? Are they gonna agree to terms? But I think this weekend, we'll hopefully find out what happens, with this war stuff.
[0:18:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's gonna be... It it is gonna be wild. And, yes, Monica, I do see that massive chimpanzee group in Uganda has reportedly split into rival factions and descended into a deadly civil war. That is exactly what this space feels like, actually, now that I now that I think about it. And Polymarket has quickly become one of my favorite accounts to follow. It is absolute... I literally checked the Polymarket account, like, multiple times a day. Like, the the amount of insane, nonsensical news is incredible. It's so good.
[0:18:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: But then No. But but but
[0:18:52] Kool @koolcryptovc: but you well, it's it's actually a good good news, man. You you get a lot of information there, man. I think if you if follow the tweets, you get very informed what's going on around the world, man. I think it's a good source of information in a very weird way. But, yeah, I I like it. I like it a lot.
[0:19:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: So chimpanzees sparting a fish.
[0:19:08] Moni @monitalan: The funniest part of that story... So sorry. No. The funniest part of the story is the Wall Street Journal published the story about this two hours ago. Wait. Wait. Is because everybody's
[0:19:21] Kool @koolcryptovc: that real? Is that real stuff?
[0:19:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: I thought
[0:19:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: it was fake. Is that real?
[0:19:23] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'll share it
[0:19:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: right now.
[0:19:25] Moni @monitalan: No. I I I
[0:19:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: saw it earlier. I was like, I got confused. I was like, what is this? But it's actually real. Crazy.
[0:19:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Polymarket doesn't make up stories. Right? They either were, like... They're either, like, taking stories from other, like, reputable news sources or, like, they're seeing it, like, firsthand. You know what I mean?
[0:19:41] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Or from what's Yeah.
[0:19:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: From what... Like, is there a polymarket on this?
[0:19:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Like, who's
[0:19:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: gonna win the civil war? Is there, like, a North, like, chimpanzee and
[0:19:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: a The north troth team. The foxtrot. But if this... If if if chimpanzee starting a civil war, doesn't scream bear market, I don't know what does.
[0:19:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen, Brad, just figure out how we make money off of this, bro. That's what we need at this point. Like, talk to me, bro. Like, what are we doing? Chimpanzees, north and south? Like, I can make content for this for days. I got sea dance now. You know what I'm saying? Like, what are we doing?
[0:20:10] Bread @_ToastMalone: Our civil war or, like, us versus Canada right now?
[0:20:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. Not us versus Canada. Plus, I'm in Canada. You can't start a civil war with Canada.
[0:20:16] Bread @_ToastMalone: I mean... I thought you were representing that side.
[0:20:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. No. No. No.
[0:20:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Why you gotta say it like that, though?
[0:20:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Because I knew that... It needs to be emphatic. No.
[0:20:26] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: How many more times can you say no? Right. No. No. No.
[0:20:30] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. Just no. Like, well, I haven't, like, double negative makes a positive or some shit. I wanna go home.
[0:20:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: I just
[0:20:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: wanna go home. Is when is Canadian Easter over?
[0:20:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Canadian? I don't know. It was
[0:20:44] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: done a long time ago. It was done on Monday. Monday was the last day.
[0:20:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's not Canadian Easter. Okay? Passover is eight days. For you people that do not know the plight of my people, okay, you people, what do you mean to you people? Listen. Okay? It took us some time for the exodus to happen out of Egypt. Therefore, we need to suffer. Do you understand eight days, unleavened bread? Like, there's there's no electricity. You can't turn on the lights. You can't touch money. You can't drive in a car. You can't smoke cigarettes. Do you understand what I'm doing? So you're not vaping, though. Right? Right now?
[0:21:20] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Wait. Is it... Are you Yes.
[0:21:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I am.
[0:21:21] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Are you in this period right now as well?
[0:21:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, yes. I do.
[0:21:25] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Did you literally have it? Wait.
[0:21:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: I'm not
[0:21:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: religious. No. I know. I know. What I'm saying is
[0:21:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: But you're breaking the rule with
[0:21:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: the baby.
[0:21:31] Bread @_ToastMalone: Where'd you get the analog iPhone?
[0:21:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I know. Dude, I am literally the black sheep of the family under the guise of, guys, this is work. Although, technically, it is work. Let's be serious. Like, son pays me. I need... They were like, yo. We need you to host this space with Justin's own. Because, hey. No. Sorry. Need to eat matzah. Call me later.
[0:21:49] Bread @_ToastMalone: I can't touch digital money. I get where you're going, man. I see. Yeah. Alright.
[0:21:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. My people didn't know digital money back then. You know what I'm saying? When, like, the plagues came, it was like, you know, they weren't like, oh, we're stealing your first Bitcoin. You know, we're sinking your first 50,000 sets. No. This is how it was.
[0:22:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think we're deep back now.
[0:22:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Right. S. Yes. Exactly. God. I see Milo. I see Milo's comments pop up. Milo's comment. Milo, there's a reason why you don't earn quacks. It's because you are a monster fudder and because you're a shit poster. And baby memes eating matzah being like, nah nah nah nah nah is not gonna get you quacked. I just want you to know that. For just, like, sake. Anyways, okay. Let's get the show Yeah. Get the show started.
[0:22:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Really similar thing? Yeah. Hey. Hey. Hey. Respect that. I'm so fucked.
[0:22:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Respect Respect this badge. Okay? Respect this... Little respect on this badge, this little duck badge. Alright? I got big things coming.
[0:22:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I'm leaving. Soon. That happened.
[0:22:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. My my entire tenure with this badge has been hashtag soon. So... Okay. I'm not... I don't plan on stopping now. Alright?
[0:22:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let me check to see how many... Do do you... Let me see what my points are.
[0:22:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead. Let's let's see what you got. I don't know what... If you... If you've been talking about crypto, you should be getting quacks. But while you're looking, let's go to No.
[0:23:04] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I I got something yesterday as well.
[0:23:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're welcome. You see, you're welcome. I'm vouching for you.
[0:23:08] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I don't understand why, but... Yeah.
[0:23:10] Moni @monitalan: I don't either. I have a question. I saw a post today, Dave, about the given money... Given rewards out. Is it for specific campaigns, they said something about... By the way, every time I open my... To see my point, I get my... The only badge I know I own, which is aligners. Well, I
[0:23:31] Kool @koolcryptovc: only see why they
[0:23:32] Moni @monitalan: still do that one always pops up, and it makes me so mad. I'm like, I
[0:23:37] Samara @thee_samara: don't want to
[0:23:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: see them. Do this. I told Yuri about this. I'm like, Yuri, thank you for reminding me of the worst time of my life
[0:23:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: in April. I just saw... I just saw that. He said, aligners pop quacker.
[0:23:51] Moni @monitalan: At least give me the early quacker one, not that wide. Oh, look. My score has gone
[0:23:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: up to a
[0:23:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see?
[0:23:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Look at you. I've got
[0:23:59] Moni @monitalan: that one zero seven. Look at 12. And 1,200... Quite.
[0:24:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right.
[0:24:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: So, anyway... But can
[0:24:06] Moni @monitalan: you tell us about, like, what they've given out and how people are earning? Because I have not...
[0:24:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, nothing recently. But the last the last thing was the IDOS, if you owned a Quackhead, but that airdrop too. But, like, if you look at by the numbers, technically, in 2026, we've given out over $1,300,000 so far. We've distributed between Elsa and the... I know people might not like these names, but we... That's exactly what we have distributed, Elsa, Idas, and the rest. And there's there's real utility coming for the quack heads. I promise you. It is coming. Yeah. And then also, don't forget, there's Bitcoin Vegas at the end of this month as well, which... Wallchain is actually sponsoring my trip, which is dope. So I'm gonna be out in I'm gonna be out in Vegas for for the Bitcoin conference, which is dope. Cool. I don't know if you have any plans or whatever. I know. I don't know. Nat maybe... Maybe Nat's rolling with the wolf crew now. I don't know if they're gonna put Nat Nat up in, a fancy townhouse like they did you last time. But, Nat, your boys at wolf gonna put you up or what?
[0:25:04] Moni @monitalan: Sponsor me also.
[0:25:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: What I'm saying. Like, Nat,
[0:25:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: what's up?
[0:25:07] Moni @monitalan: I'm not... That's sponsor rolling. No.
[0:25:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: She's like, nah. I'm not going. Yeah. I'm good. But, no, no. We we we we got some things cooking. There's a big partnership with a really... With an amazing exchange that we got coming up as well, hopefully, in the next couple weeks too, but that's gonna be running a campaign, which is... Yeah. Like, guys, look. Sleep on stuff until, like, it it awakens. Right? Like, everyone's like like, woah. Woah. What's going on? What's happening? What's happening? It's always this way. Right? Like, goes quiet, quiet, quiet, and then it's, like, all at once. So Yeah. Don't sleep on it. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:25:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, so I I I
[0:25:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: stuff coming.
[0:25:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: I did check, and I have been earning quacks. Look at that. I'm at 55 quacks. I was at
[0:25:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: 40. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. You see what I mean? And, Monica, by the way, keep cooking on the Sora videos. I'm gonna continue to post one AI slop video for Sora in memoriam until they sunset it on April 26. So more more AI videos of me.
[0:25:59] Moni @monitalan: I need to do my
[0:26:00] Samara @thee_samara: daily a source.
[0:26:01] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: So so we we we we we
[0:26:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: we sorry. Do you do you get a refund with all the money you spent on them?
[0:26:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, bro. No. No. No. And plus you didn't have to spend it on Sora specific. I spent the 200 a month for GPT pro. So it's like I get all the bells and whistles. But if I'm being honest, like, it was because I was able to generate a facility in Sora videos on a daily basis that I really kept paying. It was kinda awesome. But it was great. Nice little creative outlet. But, yeah, it's going by by a million dollars a day. Now they're gonna be saving. I don't know if you guys saw the video that I put out, but I was just like... It was a spoof, video of me behind a news desk in some, like, funny green, like, goblin costume that... Saying, hey. The Department of War is way more profitable, so we're gonna sunset Sora so that we can make bombs go boom boom. Because it's the truth. Obviously, you saw Anthropic now on the persona non grata list. They got banned, and Open Eye is gonna swoop in there and essentially start taking up government contracts. So let's see what's what. But we don't go ahead, and then we'll get the... And then we'll go to Naeem and get the show started.
[0:27:02] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Oh, I was just wondering if now as a crackhead holder because I destroyed Naeem, does that mean I earn quacks?
[0:27:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: You didn't have to be a quack holder to earn quacks. Wait a minute. Are you... Nobody sent... Oh my god. This has been so long in the making. Widow, wait. I'm going to send you my referral link, Natalie, Monica. Don't you dare. I'm gonna send you... Yeah?
[0:27:24] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: No. Send me your link. But, also, like, if I earn quacks Uh-huh. Like, what does that mean? Like, as in, like, if I have quacks? Like, is there anything of value to quacks? Is... Why do I want quacks?
[0:27:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Naeem, shut up. Yes.
[0:27:38] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: He is thumbs downing, so maybe I should ask Naeem what what No. No. No. No.
[0:27:44] Moni @monitalan: They're like BBs. No. No. No. No. You don't you don't.
[0:27:46] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Always consider the source of the opinion.
[0:27:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Widow, trust me. You don't wanna listen to anybody. This is the
[0:27:53] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: source choice. Right now. Listen.
[0:27:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Listen.
[0:27:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Linda. Listen. Linda.
[0:28:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Linda. Okay. No. But for real, nobody knows what quacks are for. But if you look back, okay, if we remember the Kaito days, which I don't know if you do or if you did Infofy at all, you earned yaps. Right? And yaps turned into Kaito, which was the actual token when they TGE'd. So you earn quacks, and, ultimately, when and if there is a TGE for a 100,000,000 FTV, then maybe your quacks will turn into real money.
[0:28:31] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: So it's just timeline farming nonsense for exposure.
[0:28:36] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yes. Yeah. And not only that, we do it. Everybody who basically post anything in crypto earns it, so it's heavily diluted. So, yeah, don't cut your bottom dollar in terms of it translating to anything tangible. If they do it smartly say. If if they do it smartly, they will allocate any allocations based on quack heads and the wall chain leaderboard itself as opposed to quacks alone, hopefully. Hopefully.
[0:29:03] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: So why is it that quacks are able to be earned by anybody? Do the quack heads have, like, a multiplier considering that it is Yes. They do. There? Okay. So now as a new holder, I will have a multiplier.
[0:29:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: You are correct. That is it.
[0:29:19] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: I'm not Okay.
[0:29:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Okay.
[0:29:21] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: For quacks, Dave? I thought for the voting and leaderboards, but, like, I don't know. For the quacks.
[0:29:25] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: So the
[0:29:26] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: one It doesn't actually matter. I don't do Infofy. I don't do Socialify. I have strong opinions about it that I won't speak right now. But, yeah, I was just wondering. Thank you.
[0:29:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Natalie, why are harding that?
[0:29:38] Moni @monitalan: EmphoFi is dead. EmphoFi is dead. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:29:40] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Don't worry.
[0:29:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: She's not wrong, though.
[0:29:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mean We buried EmphoFi. That's fine. We don't
[0:29:44] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: even is dead, and SocialFi is the most disgust disgusting thing on anybody's self worth that I've ever seen. So Okay.
[0:29:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. So we're calling it attention fi now, and all the kids are doing it. And we really love for we really love for you to get on board with attention. Okay? That's what we're calling it now. That's the curriculum.
[0:30:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. But I I just wanna add. Right? You're you're entitled to, you know, your opinion on it, and your opinion will definitely be respected. Well, you don't have to do the whole shebang bang bang like everybody else is doing. You don't have to follow the crowd or do... You can be your own person, and that is completely okay.
[0:30:26] Bread @_ToastMalone: Shebang fi coming soon.
[0:30:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: There you
[0:30:29] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: go. Shibang bang Fi.
[0:30:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Morning. What's up?
[0:30:34] Moni @monitalan: So I have a question for a widow. Do you hate amplify... Why do you own a crackhead?
[0:30:40] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Just want it.
[0:30:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: I want it
[0:30:42] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: today. Content.
[0:30:45] Moni @monitalan: Okay. Yeah. Don't sell it.
[0:30:47] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: No. I won't I won't sell it. I'm a dime hand. Like, I hold everything to zero. So, like, no. I won't sell it, especially the fact that, like, anything... No. I can't say that because I did with my mutant that someone gifted me. Typically, gifts and gifts and things I win, I diamond hand, but that gift I with because, you know, $20 looked
[0:31:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: a lot
[0:31:09] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: better than
[0:31:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: a mutant.... You a mutant? Somebody gifted you a mutant
[0:31:11] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: and you
[0:31:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: floored it?
[0:31:12] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: You missed out space, bro. What? Yeah.
[0:31:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: I got
[0:31:16] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: a mutant.... Cyclopies.
[0:31:18] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: I got a mutant from a simp. What? And I What? Weft it.
[0:31:22] Moni @monitalan: Do you see what I'm saying? Simps out here are making people rich. That's crazy.
[0:31:28] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: It was at 20 k at the time. Like, I got 20 k USD, which is in Canadian dollars a lot more. So it was a good happy birthday to me. Yeah.
[0:31:40] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Was it Dave's account?
[0:31:42] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Yeah. It's Dave's alt account. He he gifted me a mutant.
[0:31:46] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Bro, for sure. He's he's too shocked. You know, like like
[0:31:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: That is insane. A 20 k mutant is what? No. No. No. I... God bless. Take that money and fucking run. That's amazing. Like, that's... Are you kidding me? How come nobody... None of my sims? I don't have any sims. Yeah.
[0:32:04] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: It was a down payment on a house. So, I mean
[0:32:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's crazy. I
[0:32:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: mean, it's crazy that that 20 k can also put a down payment on a house. Cool. You know what I'm saying? In Canada. You know what I mean? Like, in what world? Like, where does this exist anywhere else? God bless Canada, I guess, in that sense. Alright. Listen. Listen. Let's talk let's talk some stories because, apparently, Iran and Oman are saying, hey. Listen. You want your ship to pass through the Strait Of Hormuz? We need Bitcoin, MFers. That's what we need. 2,000,000 to ship. I mean, not the craziest amount of money, depending on, obviously, like, what you're hauling, but the fact that it's Bitcoin, I know there's gonna be negotiations going on in Islamabad and Pakistan. I don't know how Pakistan ended up being the broker here, which I thought was really interesting, but we don't gotta get into those politics. But cool. What do you think? Are ships gonna start ponying up? And is this playing good for Bitcoin right now or what? Because, like, we're on the up and up right now. We're looking good. We're green.
[0:33:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: Of of course it is, man. Now what do mean? You have been, you know, what, three years ago or, what, two years ago? Biden administration... You know, I'm not a Democrat, Republican, whatever, but they were trying to kill crypto, man. I mean, if if Kamala Harris had won, crypto was done. It wasn't really her. It was senator Elizabeth Warren and her people. They're trying to destroy crypto along with Gary Gensler, the former SEC chairman. So, I mean, you know, this is this is a big deal, man. I mean, it's not... This is... I mean, Bitcoin Bitcoin has made it. Crypto's made it. Not all of them, of course. But, yeah, big deal. I think that's probably... You know, I'm not sure if this continues, though, because I know a lot of other countries don't like the fact that they're paying a toll, but these... You know, they want Bitcoin. And I think, also, Iran is one of the largest miners in the world. I think they're tough three, I think, of of of of of for for mining Bitcoin. So they... They're pretty they're pretty, averse with with this, technology, man, but it's it's a good thing. Unfortunately, of course, the the haters of crypto are gonna say it's a bad thing. But, overall, I think it's a good thing, because, you know, some countries wanna thrive, and they've they've been censored and blacklisted from the from the financial system. And, you know, it's it's a way for them to keep keep trade going, man. So, yeah, having Bitcoin in the midst of this conflict right now, it's... Yeah. It does have its positives. And, of course, it's it's it's negatives too. So... But to me, overall, it's a good thing to me.
[0:34:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair enough. Okay. Let's go. Natalie, your take, please.
[0:34:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I I think that is a... I think it's good for for Bitcoin. I was on the space, I believe it was yesterday, someone... You know, they had the opposite view, and and and and that's okay. I I think their view is more like something like this puts a negative light on Bitcoin and crypto, and we already have enough of that. So that's the other side of that. But I think overall, I'm with cool on it. Like, I think the more visibility Bitcoin get, the more transactions that's being done with it, the more important it will become.
[0:35:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I don't know. I'm I'm looking at this, and I'm just saying to myself, like, like, the... Everything has changed. Right? Like, we're literally talking about, like, oil tankers, like, paying a toll in Bitcoin. Like, this was not on my bingo card, like, at all. You know what I'm saying? For, like, any of this stuff, but not maybe, like, while we're on it. Like, Bitcoin has obviously been on the uptrend. Like, you know, markets are looking green. Dare I say altcoins are... You know, I get it. I don't wanna get too crazy. I'm not gonna say it, but, you things have been looking on the up and up. What's the deal?
[0:35:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So Bitcoin does have to hold this level. Right? So 62 k, it's it's it's a big level for for Bitcoin. If we look at the daily... One second. Let me pull it up. Yeah. So if if we look at the daily, it's coming up against... It's, like, literally right on some short term resistance. So it's 70... It tried to it tried to break above it earlier, but it failed. So $72,500 is a key area it has to break above. If we start seeing breaks and closes above that on the dignity, then, the potential is for higher. But it has to break and close above that. Right? If we do get another rejection there, then lower is more is more likely. Right? I can see us revisiting 70. If 70 breaks, then we're right back into the sixties. And keep in mind that in the sixties, there's a lot of liquidity building all the way down to 58 and below. Right? But on on on the positive side, let's say we we do get some positive reinforcement here, and we do get some volume, and we do get some follow through, which is what we need, right, volume and follow through. If we get that here, it closes above $72,500. There is a beautiful, beautiful pocket of liquidity, and it is building all the way up to 80 k. Right? Not that... Doesn't say... Doesn't mean that we're gonna get there. Right? But we're talking of... There's, like, 60,000,000, in liquidity at 73 to $73.05. There's 60,000,000 liquidity at $73.03. So, like, 73, there's a lot, a lot, a lot of liquidity there. If we start seeing breaks above that, 76 would be the next... $75.08, $75.09, next area of big liquidity. Closes above that, then at that point, definitely 80. So last time, we had a big chunk of liquidity was at 67,000. A few days ago, it was over 100,000,000 in liquidity at 67,000, and we broke above that. Right? Then the next area of big liquidity was at 69,000, and we broke above that. So if we're going to continue the trend, then... And we we managed to close above 72.5, and get that follow through that we need, then I could see us getting the liquid... The big, big pocket of liquidity that's in the the 73 k range than $767.80.
[0:38:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Yeah. Koma, you had a hand up. Go for it. What's up, brother? How are you?
[0:38:21] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Hey, guys. How are you all doing? Happy Thursday. Missed you all yesterday. Sorry that, our host was busy doing, you know, family duties. Yeah. Net net, curious. Are are we gonna go even lower, lower, lower, you know, I know we talked about that a few weeks ago. You didn't put a time date or a timeline on it, but
[0:38:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I
[0:38:44] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: am curious to hear your thoughts.
[0:38:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So my thesis had... My thesis have not changed. Everything that I'm mentioning is, like, short term. Right? So on the short term, I could see it's going to 80. I'm... I was on a stream last week, and I have crossing of two EMAs around, like, 83, 84 k, assuming we break above 80. But if we do get up that high, I do... That would be a short... Massive short opportunity for me. But this is all movements for the short term. Right? Long term, it has not changed for me. 35 to 25 k. And if if we zoom out on the liquidity, there is liquidity sitting there. Right? You can you can view it on, market market terminal. You can view it on Kyotaka. Kyotaka is the clearest one. It tells you exactly what the levels are, how many millions are sitting on on on those levels. Right? And they have liquidity stacked all the way down to 35 k and below.
[0:39:36] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: I have a quick follow-up on that. At at what point do you feel like that number is invalidated? Right? Like, if it's going down, but, like, it just goes up after a certain number, and then it just never really goes down that low. Like, at what point do you think this thesis is no longer valid?
[0:39:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So that thesis for me would no longer be valid if we start seeing closes in the 100. At that point, even... Yeah. At that point, even if we do come back down, I don't think we're gonna go all the way down to 39 k... 35 k unless we're looking into an extended bear market.
[0:40:14] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Got it. So it would have to be, like, significantly higher than a 100 k, like, on the peak, and then, like, it goes down and, like, does that reversal, and then it kinda just creates that support is what you're saying.
[0:40:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah.
[0:40:25] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Got it. Okay. Cool. Learned something new.
[0:40:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I like this. Yeah. Because Natalie comes in and says, called it every day. We're just like, wait. But what? I guess I get coma. You know what I mean? Like, Natalie, you're trying to you're just trying to stump you on that one, but well played.
[0:40:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I wasn't. I know. I I didn't hear you.
[0:40:46] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Am learning. You know, there's a difference, Dave. You always have, like, a hidden agenda. I'm just trying to be, you know, educated and, you know It's
[0:40:56] Bread @_ToastMalone: the ATC Learning Center.
[0:40:57] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Into the spaces, you know, on time.
[0:41:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Know, when people are waiting,
[0:41:01] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: you know, that... That's that's who I am. That's who
[0:41:03] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I am.
[0:41:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's actually a great question, Mike, because every every trader, they do have their invalidation level. Right? And it's important to have that because you... What's very dangerous is to just trade your bias and trade your bias only. At that point, it becomes dangerous. You have to keep an open mind and look at the levels in which your thesis will become invalidated. Right? But... And that is why as you do this for the long term and you do it on a consistent basis, it becomes easier to trade, and you become open to just whatever levels break to the upside or to the downside. You become you become better at trading those levels and knowing when to switch gears. Because knowing when to switch gears is very important. And... But in reference to Matt and Landy calling it, we be good. Don't be hating. Don't be hating. We... Listen. I even called the pullback on oil. I said, these people are not gonna bomb a whole... The whole city. Right? No one's gonna bend the knee, but I don't think they're gonna bomb the whole the whole city and shorts printed. We... I went heavy USO puts. Oh my god. I went heavy in leverage on Austium, Brent shorts, and I've shorted USOIL on Hyperliquid. How that... You know? But that's how convicted I was. Like, I traded that with with conviction. Granted, I did hedge, right, just in case I was wrong. Because like I said, it's it's bad to just trade your bias and your bias only. Right? So I did... Because there's a... There's always a chance. Right? There's always a chance. So I hedge on the stock market side just in case with some calls.
[0:42:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So let me ask you guys this. So a good, like, good stuff. Like, I think this is super, super helpful. But, like, let me ask you guys this. Right? Like, aside from... Well, whether it's trading or not, like, what are you, like, what are you guys doing, like, to make money now? Right? Like, when I mean that... I mean, like, in this space, what's that? Being awesome. Is that what you said? Be awesome? No. Like, coma... I mean, other than your web two job in this space, are you... Obviously, like, you're doing prediction markets. Right? I asked Widow and Naeem this earlier today. Like, what's the... Oh, Twitter's rugging everybody right now. But, like, what's, like, what's everybody doing to, like, make money, like, in in in... Like, out here right now? I'm just kinda curious because I think it... It's important, like, to let people hear.
[0:43:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: You mean trading? Trading makes money.
[0:43:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Either. No. Trading for sure. Like, obviously, like, I know you. Right? Like, you're obviously trading. This is what you do. You know what I'm saying? But, like, I'm just curious, like, for some of the others, like, what exactly is everybody else doing? Like, how are they making money out in the space, the ones that are maybe, like, not traders? You know what I'm saying?
[0:43:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, gotcha. But I I think it's important to know, right, I do have business that makes good money as well. So it's trading in addition to that.
[0:43:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Alright. Lovely that everyone has a Web two life except me. I'm the only poor guy here, but, Widow, go ahead. Thank you, Natalie. Widow, go ahead.
[0:44:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I do not have Widow. No? Anyone?
[0:44:12] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Hello. Hello. Hello.
[0:44:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, there you go. There you go.
[0:44:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: You were on
[0:44:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: mute the whole time, Boomer.
[0:44:16] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: I, make money being a cloud manager. That's how I'm... How I make my money.
[0:44:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Fair. I like that. Yeah. Monique, go ahead. I would love to hear from you.
[0:44:27] Moni @monitalan: There's still some projects paying for content. I've done a couple. So I still do a little bit of that. Obviously, I work now for billions, so I have that. Unlike you, I'm in web three. So, like you, like, where is it coming from? And everything is not... Even right seat, put everything on pause, what people are expecting. But there's a couple of projects that are still doing deals. There's still some of the agencies doing it, but it is quieter. Right? Some of the Telegram groups that have deals, like, three or four every day are, like, not one every couple of weeks, and everybody competes for those. I think the other thing that people are doing is five coding different things more on the marketing on content side and that's helping them. I haven't done anything like that, but that may be the other thing that people are doing. I don't know. I'd love Koma to to see beyond his web two job, mister Fancy. Like, if he's seeing anything. Are you still yield farming with the... You know, what are you looking at? I think, also, there's a kapote cheese expected this month. I shouldn't be saying that because I... I'm one of the ones for this quarter's Oh. This one that I worked on. Oh. But I think Soltys and somebody else was expected. And then I'm hearing rumblings that potentially bases this quarter. I don't know if true or not. But Really? If you guys aren't active on the base app, maybe get active on the base app was what I was
[0:45:56] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: That's over diluted, Donnie. Right? Like, I think Right. Majority of these TGE's are gonna be... You know, like, you're better off probably just holding them rather than on on on the TGE's. That was, like, some data data from Masari and research. Did did Masari did it on dataset of 41 TGE's. This was last year, but it's still equally applicable. Like, Aztec was in there. For those that know, they did their sale with the CCA type share end of last year around $4.05 cents, per token, and, that's saying that, like, it was sub sub 2¢ earlier. So it's not a good time for launches generally, I think. Yeah. I think there was six profitable projects, bro. And I looked at the the highest profitable one, which was called Omnifare... No. O o m f g or some shit called Omni something, and it had, like, 700 in volume. It was, like, one... 2,000,000 market caps. So they've obviously sold... They did it on MetaDAO. They launched it, did the token sale, raised a million dollars, probably at a million dollar market cap. The entire circulation isn't... So there's no low flow. Like, there's the entire circulating supplies out there. And... Yeah. So it's not very... It's it's like there's not... I don't think there's a single good, like, overall launch that I've seen.
[0:47:15] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Guy didn't didn't launch their token. Right? They went to Mainnet, but they didn't
[0:47:21] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Who's that? Sorry.
[0:47:22] Moni @monitalan: Launch with MegaEth?
[0:47:24] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. I think they had, from what I know, there was premarket. I don't know if they have launched. You're right. But, like No. They they had metrics that they had to meet KPIs or something. Right? And then, like, they filed for me.
[0:47:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: They called it off. Yeah. If you remember, like, they were just like, we're not gonna do this yet because, like, they didn't... Like, it wasn't... Like, the numbers weren't there. Whatever. But, yeah, like, they launched Mainnet, and then they just kinda... Yeah. Monie, wait. What... Real quick before I go to WinOp. Monie, when did you say the billions TGE was again? What was the date?
[0:47:51] Moni @monitalan: No. I didn't say. I said many are expecting. I didn't say any dates. The only official announcements on any billions TGE t t come from the billings
[0:48:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: account. Right. Right. Right.
[0:48:02] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Well, I literally asked her this in the... In our group chat. She said the exact same word verbatim. So
[0:48:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I thought I was able to catch her. She all... If you almost thought... She... Oh, she's like, wait. What? No. I didn't. Yeah. Well, I'll get you eventually, Monu. Don't worry. Widow, go ahead. What's up?
[0:48:17] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: How is it that with you guys having, like, large accounts, you're not making money? Because I can charge $250 for a Twitter post.
[0:48:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sorry. What? Send them send them my way. Issue. How... 250.
[0:48:31] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: This is from
[0:48:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: who? Like, who be those... Business?
[0:48:35] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Well, any... Okay. Well, anytime I'm approached... Like, I'm approached lots for, like, KOL campaigns, and I'm not cool. Like, I'm not cool. I'm not cool at all. I'm not. I'm a nerd. But, yeah, you can charge upwards to... Like, if they want, like, short form or any sort of long form, you can charge even more, like, up to $500 per post. So if anytime I'm, like, retweeting anything, it's a $100. I get paid for comments. Like, how you're
[0:49:04] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: not This is what improvised done to to
[0:49:06] Moni @monitalan: everyone. No. No. But I have a question. I do have a question.
[0:49:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, let me let me
[0:49:10] Moni @monitalan: just pipeline right now that you're getting... Are you getting the request right now? Right? I think that's the main thing that the
[0:49:15] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: pipeline happening right now with the marketplace? Yes. Correct. Yes. We need to get in
[0:49:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: your pipeline. Zip it up. Zip it up. This... Everyone's going on mute right now. Widow, let me just say it's a pleasure to have you on these spaces. You have been an absolute breath of fresh air to these spaces, and we would love to have you on these spaces way more. That being said, this said pipeline that you currently have of $250 per tweet, I don't know if you'd like to share some of those with, you know, some of your friends here, but I personally would love to do that because I'm doing bullshit tunnel posts for freaking $58 a post. So, you know, at the end of the day, I'd love to get paid $250 for a tweet, $100 for a retweet. So I have a big account. I have a wall chain community. I'd love to show them everything and anything. So just please let me know, with the right disclosures, obviously. But, yes,
[0:50:10] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: please go. And it is just, like, depending on... Like, I hate my my timeline personally to be spammy. And because, like, honestly, anything I get paid for, it does so Like, I can just total garbage shit post, like, the most stupid nonsense, and it gets, like, a thousand, 2,000, 3,000 impressions. But as soon as I do something that's, like, actual alpha or something of intelligence, people don't pay attention to it just because that doesn't seem to be my area of expertise. But, yeah, like, I can't believe you're not leveraging your 25 k following to get more than $50 post. Like, I won't comment for $50.
[0:50:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, I'm... Well, listen. Here's the thing. I I don't... The posting thing was never my thing. Right? Like, I do these tunnel things because, like, oh, it's ancillary stuff. And whatever I earn from tunnel, I just DCA Bitcoin for the most... Excuse me, for the most part. But what I do is, like, I mean, I make my money on spaces and and everything else. Right? So, like, I charge $500 to run a space. You know? So, like, for me, like, that's pretty much, like, where the bread and butter comes from, and some people pay a lot more than that. Like, Sun is now paying double that on a weekly basis for me. So, like, I do that, but I would love to supplement that with $250 tweets.
[0:51:22] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Yeah.
[0:51:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can figure out a way to make it sound hella sexy. You know what I mean? So I would love, like, to shoot... Like, share the wealth if you if you want to. I would love that.
[0:51:30] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Yeah. Well, like, I can't... You asked how people are making money, and I'm I'm just I'm just telling you, like, this is, like, all available. But, like, not to be a dick, I'm just gonna call it how it is. But lots of people don't wanna play in the NFT sandbox just because the market sentiment isn't where they want it to be, but that doesn't mean that there's not money to be made in that sandbox. Like, it's really... It's quite simple. Like, if I wanted to have a post every day of the week, I could have that lined up. It's just not something that I want on my Twitter. Right?
[0:52:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I will gladly build you a sand castle. One tweet a day, I would love to do that. I will build sand castles all day. Are you kidding me? $250? That DCA all that into Bitcoin every single day for one tweet? My timeline will gladly absorb that, and my... None... Nobody would be none the wiser. None. Bubba, chill out. They'd be none the wiser.
[0:52:22] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Done on DMs for, you know, payments. Please refer it my way, Dave. Thank you.
[0:52:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. You're welcome. You're get all my quacks anyway, my quack referrals. So chill out, boy. But I
[0:52:33] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: mean... No. I'm serious. If if if if there's some sharing and... There must be some caring. So... Yes.
[0:52:39] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I think this is a consequence of Inverify. I think after being, like... Because at the early days, it cooked, but, like, other than that, like, it's been, like, $0.00 or, you know, like, $2 per post. Like, some of these some of these people have been posting so much. But, like, if you look at the traditional KOLs, like... Or, you know, influencers or people with some following, yeah, 200 is cheap. Like, that's overall, like, massively... Actually quite cheap, but, obviously, the of the market overall. Yeah. So, yeah, it's interesting.
[0:53:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sign me up. Sign... Widow, I'm I'm in your DMs. Like, let's go. Sign me up. Like, I would, like, please. Like like, put those people in touch with me. I would love to do that because, like, I have a way of not making it sound chilly, but also, like, it... It'll... It's a it's a way for me to then upsell the rest of the stuff that I do. You know what I'm saying? So it's a foot in the door. So I'd I'd I'd really appreciate that.
[0:53:32] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Yeah. I can do that. That's no problem.
[0:53:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Thank you. Love that. Mona, go ahead.
[0:53:38] Moni @monitalan: I'm gonna have to drop. But I do think what... If at any point... And maybe that's a great space, Dave, on how to make money in this market. And I have people like Widow and others kinda share where they're getting the... Their pipeline. Right? This is one of the reasons I've never liked Tunnel because I think they undervalue your content, Dave. But that's just me. But I do think it would be a great conversation.
[0:54:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I agree too. Right? Like, I generally agree too, but I feel like if I'm gonna do it... Like, I haven't been doing many of them. If you guys see my timeline, like, I'm maybe doing one tunnel post, like, every, like, few days now. I literally just take that USDC when it hits the account, and I just DCA Bitcoin. But it's a good... Like, for me, like, that's great because now I'm just... I'm padding the Bitcoin wallet without having to worry about, like, you know, like, paying bills or saving money. Like, that is the saved money, which is great. You know what I mean? Because it's it's awesome. So... Yeah. Good stuff. Really, really good stuff. I I like that. Widow, thank you. Thank you for sharing that. That'd be amazing. Yeah. And Koma, I don't know, bro. Koma, what's new in the prediction market space? And, what what what are you what are you up to, bro? Like, what... What's the deal? Like, where... How what's going on? How how y'all putting food on the table? Coma's fang. But, Brad, what's the deal, bro? Like, where where where are you making the money at? You got any new projects lined up? Anything cooking?
[0:54:54] Bread @_ToastMalone: No, dude. No. Poor shit right now. You know? Living off crypto. This is, what I've been doing for shit. I mean, like, you know, ten... No. Not ten. Yeah. Fuck, dude. Like, eight years. Like, buy when it's red, sell when it's green, and at these, you know, time periods where between gigs, between jobs, between, you know, whatever I'm building or trying to sell or whatever, yeah, it sucks. It it sucks having to sell crypto. Like, it's never a fun thing. You know? Like, it's just... But that's just straight degeneracy. You know? You know, it feels better to feed my family than it does to, you know, diamond hand some crypto that I've had for years. You know? And so this is just... Well, I'm on one of those cycles right now to where I am get... I mean, the bots are doing well, but not enough to, like... I can't live off them yet. You know? I still have to keep scaling, and I still have to, like, grow that bankroll. And it's, like, little wins, you know, you know, at a time. And dialing in the market, right, is, like... It's a whole thing building these bots. Right? Because, like, at at the end of the day, today's market is not yesterday's market, and tomorrow's market will be completely different too. You know? So, like, having a... An agent or a bot that's like, oh, yeah. I saw that coming. It's like, no. You didn't, bro. No. No. No. Nobody can. Nothing can really. So it's how quickly can you adapt. Or, like, you know, I've got it to, like... Projecting fifteen minute windows is getting far more accurate. You know? But, like, it still has no idea what tomorrow's gonna bring, you know, on a, like, a wide scale. It can identify, like, you know, a probability that it will be up or down. But, like, to the dollar, like, there's no there's no way. You know? And so working on those, you know, staying profitable, but not enough to retire on yet. So, yeah, man. They're... And it's MLB season. Right? And so that's fun because I, last year, built an insane deep research and brain, orchestration system for Billy that actually uses, like, five different agents to pull, like, some legit MLB type predictions, based on a ton of different things. And so we never really got to launch it because it was finally, like, dialed in and crushing it at the end of, like, the the season pretty much, like, as we came into the postseason. You know? And so I was like, alright. Well, that's different rules now, right, for postseason. So never really launched this brain. And, I mean, I'm I'm running it currently and doing some back testing and seeing, like, how it was doing, you know, based on last year's models and all that data I had saved from its predictions and how did they stack up and what can we change, you know, learning from that shit. And now it's, I mean, I might start actually using it tomorrow for tomorrow's games because there's, a 14 game slate, I think, tomorrow. And today, there was only four games, but the the agent called three out of four today. So let's see. You know, we'll see. I'm making it by gambling and profiting off previous me's gambling problems.
[0:57:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Let's go. Okay. Listen. By any means necessary, my boy, at the end of the day, that's what it is. But, like, I guess, like, the reason why I asked the question, guys, was, like, like, when... Like, just, like, take the Quackstream today, for example. Right? Like, we have the guy from Menara on, and before we had him... And, like, Menara is, like, a really cool tool. You know what I'm saying? But, like, you know, he's like, oh, you can, like, put money into, like, all these different strategies and this and that. And it's like, okay. Cool. Right? But, like, fifteen minutes before the stream, Yuri's like, hey. Any reason why, like, only one person actually, like, you know, took us up on the Menara offer? Like, one person out of the entire, like, Quackhead community took the time to be like, let me go to Menara and see what this AI and and and what this is about for, like, all these different strategies, and it's a really incredible tool. I asked this because, like, people don't have... Cool. You've been saying this forever. People don't have disposable income right now. Right? Like, people are actually... Like, they're hurting for dollars. So, like, to sit and say, oh, hey. Like, go put money into this strategy that's earning 3% or 5% or even 6% over the month, which is phenomenal returns, people don't have that that money to to to to to play with.
[0:59:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: That and people are jaded, right, when it comes to these platforms. Right? So we can't... It it has to do with, like, the state of the market as well. So there's multiple factors that play into the lack of activity on that website.
[0:59:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat and and Widow, I'm coming to you now. Like, when when Widow was talking today, Nat, I literally was... I heard, like, it was literally as if, like, she was channeling, like, the spirit of Natalie because she was just like, I will never let AI touch my positions. I will never let AI touch my trading. And I was like, I was like, if Coma could hear this now... No. But, Widow, go ahead.
[0:59:42] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Like, I know we touched briefly on it today in the stream, but, like... And I don't wanna poo poo on his projects, and I don't wanna poo poo on his baby, but, the market is so saturated already with AI trading bots. It's not new. It's not innovative. It's not creative. It's not amazing. So, like, people who didn't sign up for it, like, they might already be using something, that is working for them. But when you say, like, three to 4% returns in the span of a month in in Web two, a three to 4% return, on a monthly basis is amazing. But in crypto, it's, like, mid. You can get so much more for your returns if you're if you're trading and you're, like, paying attention every day.
[1:00:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wonder how much money would I have
[1:00:29] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: though. Like, a lot of these these bots are pretty much like a Fugazi Fugazi kinda thing. Like like, hey. Look at my crazy fun post to where this bot is making me tons of money or, like, this stupid sports agent... Not yours, Brett, but, like, these guys are, like, literally somehow creating these, like, videos of, like, soccer players, like, shooting a ball, but then they have this, like, analytics tool on the left that's just, like, moving like... It's like the matrix saying that they're, like, have this ultra quick latency bullshit thingamajig. Excuse my language. But it's like all, like, people just creating stupid slop at the end of the day. And even if you look at, like, that virtuals competition, I think the winner of that, like, made, like, three trades because... And then they made, like, $10. So so, like, these agents are, like, stupid as hell. Really?
[1:01:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: $10?
[1:01:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And then I also think Landy touched on it, great that last time we had this conversation. Right? Didn't he say that when he was doing it with with Brad, one thing that they found is that these agents, they get it... The few trades right in the beginning, and then they just start, like... I don't know. They selfish drop, and they do all the wrong trades, and they just do everything for lack of better terms. Right?
[1:01:42] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. No. A 100% because then they start creating their own internal biases.
[1:01:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah.
[1:01:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yep. Exactly. Because, like, it is important to record all of the all of the information that the agent's using, like, all of the trades, every position at what time frame, like, every single piece of data you can collect, collect it. But then it's a constant game of pruning and kind of going through and adjusting weights on, like, well, you know, I guess, like, one of the things that I'm trying to do is identify these, like, bigger buckets of, like, on a, you know, six month basis, can we group this market over six months into a given category? You know? And then from there, can we, you know, bring it down to two, three month periods and put it... Kind of try to identify these movements and cycles, because the weights have to change with your agent as it's trading and how much emphasis it puts on previous information, previous data, previous candlesticks, patterns, all of that versus what's happening right now and what's live in the order books and, you know, what's market sentiment and all these other things. And it's a battle. You know? And, if the agent gets too comfortable, it gets lazy, and then it just starts screwing up.
[1:02:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And I actually spoke to other traders about this. Right? Like, if they would use AI to automate their trades or have the AI trade for them, A lot of, a lot of them said no, but the ones that did say yes, it was more like on a separate computer, on something separate with separate funds, and not their main trading account. So you don't have to be doing something totally different with funds that's totally different, and no one was comfortable having the AI agent on their main account doing their actual main trades. The ones that said yes, it was more like just to see what it looks like, just to see how it works on something totally separate with small separate funds.
[1:03:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: And and... Yeah. Exact... In my mind, this... Like, building these agents and playing with these agents and letting them run and go trade and, like, giving them a small bankroll to, like, grow and, like, in my mind, that's web three gaming. You know? That's all it is to me. I see it as, like, straight... Like, it's a it's a video game. You know? Like, what can we tweak? What knobs can we turn to make this thing do better and earn more money? And, like, sometimes it loses it all. And it's like, well, you know, that's why you don't, you know, sell your car and mortgage your house and and throw it into an agent out on Polymarket. Right? But, like, as far as, like... It's it's definitely possible to get profitable. It's like when you get into scaling is where it just becomes either a full time job or an absolute nightmare.
[1:04:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, come on. What were you saying? Like, there was a competition of virtuals where somebody made, like, $10 and they won the competition? Like, what what what what is that?
[1:04:32] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: I may be, like, paraphrasing, but apparently, the the whole point was to figure out which agent was going to be the most profitable. And it didn't really have, like, a rule about how many trades it needed to make. Right? So since a lot of these agents weren't making actual money on these trades, like, they... The the agents that only made, like, three to four trades but made, like, $20 is... Was, like, winning the competition.
[1:05:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it.
[1:05:01] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Because, essentially, these, like, agents are dumb as hell. And, you know, like, I know how Brett creates his agents, and it actually takes a lot of effort. But, you know, like like, Infofy, I guess, it it depends on your point of view. Like, people are just lazy, and they'll just AI fy everything. Yeah. They're probably just like, hey. Make me an agent that makes me money or something. And then, like, they they thought, like, this would be a quick way to, like, you know Got it.
[1:05:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Make money. If anyone if anyone can crack the code and and turn $1 to a billion dollars, it would definitely be one of Brad's agents. Brad can figure it out. He know it. I put money behind it.
[1:05:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go, Brad. Yeah. You... Because here's the other thing too, right, where it's just like, you have to take all this shit with a grain of salt. Like... And I'll say this, like, let me just see, make sure nobody susses in this space. Like, this morning, right, like, on this... On on the on the VAI space. Right? Like, we had a million people that tuned in just to hear Justin Sun speak. Right? They're just like, oh my god. BAI is launching and da da da da. And just like, I was using BAI before this... Before everything started. Like, I've been using it, but it's just like, bruh. Like, it gave me, like, OpenAI, like, limit errors already. I had a million free credits. OpenAI limit errors, mini max. Like, it was just like, oh, like, we can't do that. Like... And we can't search the web yet. And I'm just like, what? We're talking about x four zero two. We're talking about identity. We're talking about 8004. It's just like, hey. Good morning. And it's just like, what? It's like, sorry. I don't understand what you're saying. And I'm just
[1:06:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: like, what the fuck?
[1:06:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, this is what I mean. So, like, just everyone needs to just be very, very... Like, it's... Just be cautious about all of this stuff and understand where it's just like, the one good thing that I thought that the Menard guy on the quack stream today said was like, bro, like, start hella hella small. Like, start super small. And I and I saw DocNooNoo's comment in which he was just like, people are cheating NFTs for 22¢. I don't even know if they have 10 to $20 to put into a freaking wallet, which I thought was... I didn't put it on the screen, but I thought was pretty damn accurate when you really think about it because that's kinda what's going on. It's kinda nuts.
[1:07:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: But Yeah. We Yeah. Keep... And then we we have to keep in mind too that crypto is not only in America, right, or Canada. It is international. Right? So 22¢ for us can mean, you know, something for someone else that really needed it. Right?
[1:07:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Facts. Facts. Facts. Let me see what's up to Samara. So Ash came up. Samara, what's good, bro?
[1:07:29] Samara @thee_samara: Hey. James, guys. James Cole, James and Dave. Yeah. Shout to you guys, man. Yeah. Sorry for the coming late. I just got in the house. Decided to hop off and just, you know, shout out to you guys.
[1:07:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Any any money making tips for us, bro? Blue haired ninja? Any... I haven't seen your telegram that active. You haven't been posting anything for us. I've been I've been paying attention. I I got nothing. I'm getting nothing from you, bro. Like, what's going on? I need something. Oh, the meme coin trenches back or what?
[1:07:55] Samara @thee_samara: No. No. No. No. Like, there's still no decent volume. But, yeah, there've been a couple of runners, but not really sent into concrete. The ones I posted, like, a while back, they just... I don't really post in a t j anymore. I just decide to just, you know, trade on my own and just chill. But, yeah, man, I've just been there, stacking up my ESDC, praying that, you know, reflect my releases, my stables. You know? As a lot of, know, bros, you know, part of the
[1:08:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of the Drift?
[1:08:22] Samara @thee_samara: Part of the... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was probably looking for, like, a more decent way to say it. But, yeah, man, like, I still have my funds there, so I'm just waiting for that to happen. You know, hopefully, fingers crossed. We'll see trading. Yeah.
[1:08:34] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Hopefully, not too much tomorrow.
[1:08:35] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Just 2,500. Nothing too crazy.
[1:08:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's okay. Good. Good.
[1:08:39] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Hope... And funny thing, would have been more than that because I wanted to, like, add to the bag, but then I just sit... I just decided to just chill. And, yeah, the hack happened. Was like, yeah. Thank god. But I'm here. I wasn't exposed. But, yeah, man. Just here. Just here is my thing. Also, just Yeah. Breaking content that will, you know, delete from me. Did you guys see the the Vibeats almost hacked yesterday? Bybit almost lost, like, a... Yeah. I made a post, like, by opening Geometron. Bybit almost lost, like, a $1,000,000,000 yesterday, but they What? You know, they handled it. Yeah. They handled it. A couple of hackers. Yeah. A couple of hackers. They tried to, like, hide legit transactions and with fake ones, but then buy become, like, caught it and just, you know, stopped it before it happened. It would've been, like, a very, very terrible thing on time line. But, yeah, they caught it early, so nothing happened. Yeah, man.
[1:09:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: A billion... Another potential billion dollars. That is insane. I did not hear
[1:09:35] Samara @thee_samara: about this. Act right now because, bro, this year alone, we lost, like, 450 something million in acts. Imagine Biden losing, 1,000,000,000. That would read
[1:09:45] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Wow. A lot of
[1:09:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That would have been crazy. I also did see that the Big the Big Cat CEO came out. Gracie came out, and she was just like, hyperliquid's a forest. It's all bullshit. It's a fake deck. So I was like, oh, snap. Big Cat is ready to go to war with Hyperliquid? This is crazy work. But, yeah, we'll we'll we'll come back to that. Cool. I just shot you the calls again. I don't know if people are getting... It's Rock City right now. But, Ash, what's good, my bro?
[1:10:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: You know what?
[1:10:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Sorry. One thing
[1:10:11] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: I I think a lot of people gamble in this space.
[1:10:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: You think?
[1:10:16] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Of course, it's crypto. And I realized, like, when I talked to my friends in Infofy and stuff, I'm like, you guys made, like, five figures. Where's your money? Right? Like, what what what are you doing? And then no one is saying anything.
[1:10:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: They ate it in black coins. I'm telling you they ate it in black.
[1:10:30] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Yeah. Like, They ate it in something. You know? It's like... It's... Then... Like, literally, Infofy was, like, one of those opportunity of a lifetime where, like, you don't have to actually gamble your money. You gamble your time, I guess. But, like, if you're already gambling your money anyways, I guess it wasn't that important. But, like, the point is is that, like, it was one of those things where it was, like, no monetary effort and you could have made, like, a good 5 figures that year. And, yeah, people just was like, yeah. This is gonna be forever, so let's just keep gambling. And then, yeah, they they lost it all.
[1:11:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I bet you I bet you Cool Cool was able to put a down payment on the hot... Right, Cool? From info five money. No? You were able to buy another house from info five money. Like, you only got to disclose what... How much, but, like, you were able to buy... Exactly. So, Koma, your point is a 100% valid, bro. Like, yeah. Like, if you were smart with your money, like, you could have done something. Right? Like, that's it. And, hopefully, you didn't follow me because, apparently, I'm just I'm literally top signal for everybody. Like, every... It's Rug City. Don't ever
[1:11:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: follow me. And I behold, brother.
[1:11:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. Don't follow me into anything. Just FYI. Like, nothing.
[1:11:33] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Someone, like, someone created an agent that can, like, pull up, like, old ATC recordings and NatNet doing Infofy. I think that would, like, that would be a good, like like, a highlight reel.
[1:11:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Literally, I I I think when when Landy......
[1:11:45] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Didn't about that at all now.
[1:11:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: When Landy and I joined, it land... It lasted for, like, what, two months before everything... Before Nikita had pulled the plug on the party.
[1:11:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Before Roger was... Roger pulled the plug on us first, and then Nikita pulled the plug on us. But... Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead, Samar.
[1:12:03] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: That was the top signal, Roger.
[1:12:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. What?
[1:12:07] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. One Langhe and and Nat and Nat were, like, bullied from the info fight. I was, like, the top top signal. Like, it was time to
[1:12:13] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: just go.
[1:12:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: So... Yeah. We should've we should've never tried to onboard them, Samar. We should've never been...
[1:12:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: But I'm I'm not I'm not even gonna lie, though. That was, like, really stressful for me. Like, that whole period, I figured out what to say on top of oh my god.
[1:12:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was just like, what do I do? And I'm
[1:12:30] Moni @monitalan: just like, listen. You just gotta keep at it. Okay? You just gotta keep doing this. You just gotta show up every day. You just
[1:12:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: gotta do this, this, and this. She was probably just like, shut this m f'er up already. She was like, I'm going back to treating. I love this shit. She's like, I'm not gonna be like you guys. This is insane. Like, I'm done with this nonsense.
[1:12:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: But, AT and not gonna lie. That was a good experience. Right?
[1:12:51] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. But it was profitable. Infofy. If you were really, like, into Infofy, made at least 5 figures. If you were really, really into it, you made at least five figures. Like
[1:12:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: For sure. I'll say this. Like Yeah. Yeah. I I I... Listen. I ate well in the time
[1:13:03] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Dave said Avantis.
[1:13:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, I'm telling you, I ate well off of Avantis, and, bro, it was a great vacation for me, bro. I got to go to Vegas. I went to, you know, I went to a couple of the places. You know? I mean, LA. I went to a couple of the place. It was nice. You know? I got to... You know, you work hard, play hard a little bit. You know what mean? So I go on these little excursions from time to time. You know? So, like, it's it's good to just kinda, like, clear your mind. But, yeah, like, for that, it was it it was great. It was it was really, really But, yeah, if you if you knew what you were doing, you... Like, you should've easily made 5 figures from Infopi. Koma, you made Vuku bucks. I I hope you bought a house too, my m effort, with that insomnia airdrop. I don't wanna hear, oh, I still held some blah blah blah. Like, that's a skill issue, bro. Like, you made Vuku bucks. But... Yeah. Samara, go ahead. And then I wanna save it some cash.
[1:13:47] Samara @thee_samara: I just wanna touch on the Hyperliquid stuff. Like, Biggut going against Hyperliquid is just like a a losing battle because if Binance could lose to Hyperliquid, you know, the whole arguments of, you know, the debt, whatever. Bro, I don't I don't think Big Cat stands a chance for real. And, bro, HyperLiquid was, like, one of the best gems of this cycle, or should I say past cycle? I would... I'll I'll just say, you know, this cycle. Like, bro, HyperLiquid still have, like, over $1,000,000,000 in CVL, bro. People are still actively... The NFTs are still actively trading. People are still using the platform, you know, post AirDrop. Like, even ignore the the hyper business with AirDrop, bro. A lot of people really love Hyperliquid. Like, that was, a gem. Honestly, I think a lot people slept on hyperliquid, but hyperliquid was it. Like, the price still holds good. The community is so strong. It's just ridiculous. Hyperliquid is just... We need something like that again for real.
[1:14:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: We need... Don't forget. Right? Even though she had a short stint here, when empress was here, all... Like, in between all of the... Listen. Listen, motherfucker. Before while... Before she was cursing everybody else out, she was dropping absolute gems and fire on... And opportunities up the wazoo when it came to hyperliquid. And I remember specifically hyperliquid is that, like, 22, $23 then had to run up to, like, 45 or I think almost $50. So, like, there is... ATC is alpha, and, you know, shout out to empress wherever she is. But but... Yeah.
[1:15:10] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: She's wild, that lady. Holy cow. Is
[1:15:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: she I love her. She is absolute... She's a boss. She is an absolute boss and takes shit from nobody, but but but but her convictions are real. She comes with real freaking plays. And listen. That's what we do here at the end of the day. That's what we do. Let me say what's up to Esh though. Esh, what's good, my boy? Down to the you, Keith. What is up?
[1:15:37] 🌱Esh @ItsEshOnX: What is up, GUP? Crazy person to end on right there. I will say nothing about this person. I'm dead. It was wild. I didn't see that coming at all. Actually, I wanted to say I got out of the team meeting, and you guys will be happy to hear Mockers is officially broken. I don't know what happened to Mockers. He has gone full HR mode. He was talking about KPIs. He was talking about us not hitting our metrics. I was like, what metric? It was all types of crazy. But, anyway, I see the jumbotron, and I'm seeing there was 1,000,000,000 hacked. I'm worried. Then I see it's polka dot. I'm like, what is happening here? Like, they can disappear easily, and nobody would literally give a shit. Also, billion in potential losses on a $2,000,000,000 market cap is wild. How does that even work? Anyway, how are you guys doing?
[1:16:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Gee. Wait. Can we can we also address Polka Dot? Like, is Polka Dot still, a thing? Like, it... Like, what's... Well, I just got notification that Blur
[1:16:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: is up
[1:16:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: 15 that Blur is up 15%. If Blur... I just got a notification that Blur is up 15%. What's going on with Polkadot? Like, anybody... Is there is there a pulse at Polkadot? What's the deal?
[1:16:51] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: That shit's dead, bro.
[1:16:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's at $1.33.
[1:16:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: My gosh. If Polkadot goes below...
[1:16:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: Who's using it? What is well, like, real question. Like, what or who... Like, what is built or being used currently on Polkadot?
[1:17:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, you don't know about MundaBeam?
[1:17:08] 🌱Esh @ItsEshOnX: People who stop the heck. They're the villain.
[1:17:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: And what do
[1:17:11] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: you know about a collet, bro?
[1:17:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Collet feature default. Like, I've been staking polka dot for four and a half years now, bro. I got so much of collards coming out of my ears.
[1:17:22] Bread @_ToastMalone: Nope. Got nothing. Nope. I, I can't think of anything. Okay. Okay. I've never heard of any
[1:17:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: of Moonbeam.
[1:17:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: Moonbeam. I remember Moonbeam.
[1:17:31] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Moonbeam. Glimmer.
[1:17:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Moonriver also. There's Moonbeam and then Moonriver. Yeah. You guys remember GLMR and then and then
[1:17:38] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: They did Cook, though, like, initially. Right? Those little them too, I think.
[1:17:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: You don't remember parachain auctions? Parachain auctions were all were, like, the beef I fucking remember, bro.
[1:17:49] Moni @monitalan: People were like a Brazilian polka dot. We need this parachain so that we can connect to the rest of the world.
[1:17:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then
[1:17:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. They they... They're still around, man. They... I think I think they... Every conference you go to, always there. I I... The price sucks, but they're still there. I don't know what they're doing, though, but it's still
[1:18:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: there. But I feel good about...
[1:18:13] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. It's a live, but, like, nobody use it, bro. Like, they've not improved the UX on that in any shape or form. It's, like, it's made for devs and by devs for devs and no, like, inkling of... Oh, and then never mind their... Let's... Inverted commas, frugal spending where they spend, like, tens of millions on, like, the the the the the actual news of them spending that money cause more attention than the actual spending of that money. Like, that tells you everything.
[1:18:44] 🌱Esh @ItsEshOnX: Yeah. Because I think
[1:18:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: I think I think it also recently... They did a upgrade. They they have their token economics plus ETF, I guess. You know, know, they get an ETF up. Man, every... Everybody's getting ETF, man. So we'll see.
[1:19:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is where Natalie goes, h bar ETF. H bar ETF. So just
[1:19:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: I was gonna say, you know who you know who is doing amazing things regardless of what market brand?.
[1:19:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: But... Yeah. No. But wait. So just to reemphasize with Polkadot, I'm with Naeem. Polkadot was, like, the Herbalife of, like, crypto. You know what I'm saying? Like, you guys remember Herbalife where it's like, we're gonna sponsor all these teams, and they were, like, everywhere. We're like, Real Madrid. You saw Messi and Ronaldo. Like, it was so, oh, okay. Like, this is cool. Oh, polka dot. And then it was like, you spent how much? And what came with that? Yeah. Ah.
[1:19:43] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Why token?
[1:19:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exact... Bro. As... It's mister mystery, bro. I have no... I have probably done five transactions on Polkadot, and that was after, like, the insanity of trying to figure out what a Polkadot wallet is, which one... Like, what it does, what this wallet address looks like.
[1:20:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: I didn't even know Polkadot had a
[1:20:02] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: wallet on billing right now.
[1:20:04] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Greens. Yeah. Flat. It's almost like We have a polka dot much. Energy.
[1:20:08] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: There is, like, multi wallet thingamajiga. Like, I just... Like, so, you know, why do we need so many complex steps to move
[1:20:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean a to b? Can we can we... Does layer zero, like, get to Polkadot? Or
[1:20:20] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yo. Yo. Yo. Do not put layer zero into the same category as Polkadot.
[1:20:26] Voice F: You leave Yeah. That's disrespect to Polkadot. Shout out, Polkadot.
[1:20:30] Samara @thee_samara: Like, when you...
[1:20:31] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Late zero is actually being used, like, interoperability. Cough. Wait. Cough. Cough. Starkey. Wait.
[1:20:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Green. Hold on. You're a Polkadot, Max? You can tell me. Like, they're they're... Educate us, bro.
[1:20:42] Voice F: Yeah, bro. That's ironic. DocNooNoo literally, like, messaged me right now. She's like, yo. Get in here. They're talking about Polka. You need to talk about this. But, is it... Bro, I'll tell you this. I thought the fact that the SEC included a Polka in the basket is super, super bullish for my down bad dirty bags because they're down, like, 99.99%. Like, I wish I was exaggerating. I'm not. $50 polka dot once upon a time. Now it's sitting at a dollar 20. Digest that, dude. So that's the main chain, let alone the parachains and everything that went around. Right? So those guys are down, like, 99.9999%. Right? So it's like... Yeah, bro. So it's like a breath of fresh air. Right? The fact that the SEC is like, okay. You know, we're not gonna, like, you know, kill you. It's bullish, personally. And, like, me, personally, I've done, thousands of transaction on Polkadot. I still do because I still have, like, a DeFi portfolio on Polkadot. You know, I I use Moonbeam, basically.
[1:21:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[1:21:41] Voice F: Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I I I basically, I got in on the ICO for Moonbeam. I got in at, like, 20¢... 25¢. And... Yeah. So I I... That was kinda, like, my first, dub. That's... Might come up was Moonbeam.
[1:21:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: So wait. Let me ask you a question, Green. So so I guess, like, right now, like, do you think that the whole poke... Because Polkadot gets looped... Gets just kinda lobbed in there with, like, everything else. You know what I mean? Where it's just like, you know, like, it's like all the alts. Right? So it's just like, oh, XRP and Solana and this and that. It's like, I feel like it almost got grandfathered in. But, like, what are you... When you say you're still doing transactions there, like, a DeFi portfolio, are you... What kind of what kind of yield are you earning on on the portfolio? Like, just, like, give me a little more... Can you give me a little more insight?
[1:22:27] Voice F: Of course. Bro, what do you mean? I'm... Like, how... What kind of maxi would I be if I couldn't even, like, do that, bro? I'm supposed to, like, spoon feed it to you, like, help you chew, and then, like... You know? And digest it too, if anything. So I I basically... I stayed on Moonbeam. I got lucky. Right? Because think about it. Everything else actually got murdered, bro. Like, it almost doesn't... Bro, I remember Edgeware. Edgeware was a huge... Like, a pair chain. It literally does not exist anymore. You know? Like, what's a ghost chain? Like, it's just gone. Poof. You know? That was crazy. But... So I was lucky because Moonbeam basically, you know, still survived somehow. There is still a DeFi, you know, thing going on on there. Stellaswap is basically the decks of choice at this point. Once upon a time, there was wars between, like, SolarBeam and, like, you know, other ones, but Stellaswap clearly won because not only did they secure grants from the foundation, but also they are controlling the biggest liquidity pools on Moonbeam. You know? So it's like, Stellaswap is where you would want to go. Like like, a lot of people would find you. Polkadot would just tell you it's a dead chain. It's not. Because even if you go look at stellaswap.io, you can see the TVL that is in just that one DEX. Your MetaMask will
[1:23:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. What is that?
[1:23:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's the TVL?
[1:23:58] Voice F: Couple mil. It's, you know,
[1:24:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: couple million dollars or something?
[1:24:04] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Bro, like, this is a $2,000,000,000 market. Short this shit to zero, bro. You might as well you might as well I mean,
[1:24:12] Voice F: would rather be farming a DEX like sell a swap rather than farming a DEX like Aerodrome that's sitting at billions. But Mhmm. I don't know.
[1:24:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like Can
[1:24:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: I ask
[1:24:22] Kool @koolcryptovc: a question? Sure.
[1:24:24] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Actually, this is more for the crowd. Like, can you guys do, like, a clapping emoji if you understood anything that Green said, like, for the past, like, five to seven minutes?
[1:24:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mean, I did ask for, like, what were the DeFi plays, technically, and he told me about dead and ghost chain. So I technically didn't get the answer.
[1:24:38] Voice F: Stella Swap dot io. That's what I said.
[1:24:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. So he he... From... What was the...
[1:24:43] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: The GIPP is amazing, by the way. He has green It's like he lost his brain.
[1:24:46] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: What was the last thing you
[1:24:48] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: mentioned? Conversation.
[1:24:50] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: You know you don't wanna you don't wanna hear it, Widow, because let me just end this debate. Like, he tried to compare and... Because it's an insult to Polkadot to be compared with Layer zero. One LayerZero application, Stargate is the leading application, but let's just take it for the sake of the volume daily. Right? And then you could look at... You can give me the volume for the entire year for Polkadot, please. But the volume daily for Stargate is a 153,000,000. Over to you, sir.
[1:25:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Start Well, on the on the bright side, Green, real quick, I know the price is down bad, but there's liquidity at $4. So if it does move to $4, you would only be down 98%. I I think that's not too bad.
[1:25:29] Voice F: Well, for me personally, I'm a maxi. Right? So I dollar cost average. So for me, I'm not worried. You know, I'm very blessed that I was given an opportunity like this, if anything, because I wasn't around when doctor Gavin would... ICO'd the coin, right, at $3, and it went to 300. Right? I wasn't there for that. So I'm very blessed to actually catch the price.
[1:25:53] greencifer🐕 (alcs shooter) @FomoTsar: Late early investor.
[1:25:55] Voice F: Yeah. At at least I'm an investor, not a gambler. Right? Because, like, that's what's, like, keeping my portfolio intact because, you know, at least I get to, like, buy things I believe in. And, you know, even if, like, people, you know, don't believe in them, that's fine because
[1:26:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shout out to your conviction, Green. Honestly, bro.
[1:26:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is actually Yeah, bro. Fuck what everybody else
[1:26:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: is saying over here, bro. Like, don't listen to that meme. If you got the conviction and and you're making some money
[1:26:21] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. No. No. If you love somebody, you tell them how it is. If you love someone, tell them how
[1:26:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: it is.
[1:26:26] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: And if they're deluded slightly
[1:26:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't
[1:26:28] Moni @monitalan: think I I like
[1:26:30] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: polka dot. I have a bag
[1:26:31] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: of polka dot still. And, like... Yeah. Like, I I got into a star. Like, if I remember them, like, I I cooked with that one. That was a lock drop. Like, put some ace into it and... Or f. Sorry. And you put some f into it and you, like Why
[1:26:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: are you saying f again?
[1:26:46] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. No. It's... That's it now. So you missed it, basically. How did you say teeth? You said teeth. It's two e's.
[1:26:51] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: No. You've said f. Or you've said e.
[1:26:53] Voice F: No. Because, like, you guys keep
[1:26:54] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: saying it. Wait.
[1:26:55] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: You keep... You did it.
[1:26:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Saying. Let him lay
[1:26:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: this claim. Was made at this point. Go.
[1:26:59] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. So, like, yeah, I I I... A star... I I... Like, I made some good money on that. I lost, obviously, quite a bit on the parachain lockup and stuff. But, like like, what is the tailwinds of this? Like, it was... Like, if you looked at Masari data, it was the biggest held coin from a VC investor perspective, and, like, it has failed. Like, it has miserably failed. Like, there is no... Like, can't tell me there's any, like, like, people... Developers move on to new shiny things. They've got base. They've got these new chains that are popping up. They've got all these other elements that they could build on. Why on god's green earth would anybody build on a shitty platform like Polkadot that has no usability or users? Like, it does not make sense.
[1:27:43] Voice F: So you you you... You fudding you fudding doesn't, like, make it true. Right? So, like, all the... All that does all that does is it just makes you miss out on the entry. That's all it does. Because at the end of the day, the people the people that do believe in it, they will buy it. Right? Like, I wouldn't advocate for Aster, Astar, the pear trade, because I never invested in that. I never even thought that it was cool. I don't know why people were hyping it. It was probably just like a insider thing. Me, personally, I like Moonbeam because I love ETH, bro. Right? So Polkadot, like, Dave was saying, it was very, very hard to onboard people to because substrate is just like, blah. You know? So the fact that Moonbeam was finally able to convert a crazy blockchain infrastructure like Polkadot into EVM was really, really good push. And I don't know, dude. Like, I might be delusional, but, yeah, I honestly did think that it was, like, just, like, written off. But, bro, the SEC, including it in their basket, was awesome.
[1:28:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: See something. Yeah. We... I'll be delusional with you. I'm I'm trying to buy some polka dot right now.
[1:28:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Conviction Bullet. Your conviction is conviction, bro. Let's go.
[1:28:58] 🌱Esh @ItsEshOnX: Yeah. Mean
[1:28:59] Voice F: Let's go. But but, like, think about it. Right? Like, who am I? I'm no one. Right? I'm just some kid, dude. But, like, the founder of Polkadot is literally the cofounder of Ethereum.
[1:29:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. You're you're you're right. And I think that's where a lot of people kinda were like, oh my god. This is gonna be great. But, you know, I guess, let's see how it plays out. But, hey. I I love your conviction, Green. I do love it. Widdle, go ahead.
[1:29:24] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: I just wanted to ask Naeem when he said he made lots of money. Please tell me you took profits, and you didn't like DCA. You didn't go down. You didn't
[1:29:32] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: He never leave the casino. No. So, like, it was... That it was it was... Like, because I... That Astar thing, like, it was called the lock drop where you would literally put Ethereum in, and you would get that back after a period of time. So I can't remember how long I put it in three or four years or something. And, eventually, when it TGE'd, I think it was, like, $20 worth of tokens or some shit. Like, there was two types. Right? Like, each of these projects had one on the parachain, and then Green might remember. I think it's, you know, like, Moonbeam and Glimmer, whatever it's called. They'd have two types, essentially. So cooked on both fronts. It was, like, a star and Shiden network or some Shiden tokens.
[1:30:07] Voice F: Yeah. I I... But I got in on Shiden. So, like, bro, I'm a big Kusama bull, if actually, like, I'm being honest. Yeah. Yeah. I like Kusama way more than I like Polka Dot because, bro, it's like Polka Dot's all institutional. Right? Bro, I like Kusama, bro. I'm a canary bird if I'm being honest. You know? So, like, I'm telling you, bro, at the end of the day, like, bro, the blockchain is is what, like, the people on there are. You know what I mean? So the fact that I'm able to, like, just create dApps, bro, is... Was, like, a huge breakthrough for me personally, bro. Because, bro, like, I couldn't even build a lot. Hear me out. So I couldn't even build, like, anything on Solidity. Right? Like, substrate is something that's restricted to the highest tier of devs, bro. That's why no one dared touch it because it was so complicated because it... That's why Polkadot's so secure. Right? Like, it's never been hacked and shit. But that's not the point. So, bro, I was talking to Claude and shit, and I'm like, yo, bro. Like, I know you can do solidity and shit, but can you do substrate? And it's like, yeah. I can, bro. And I was like, bro, this is moon. So that means it's actually bullish.
[1:31:16] 🌱Esh @ItsEshOnX: Hack because it's not important. Like, nobody gives a fuck to hack it. I just wanted to point that that's good.
[1:31:22] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Yeah. And it just uses Rust, by the way, like programming language. Right?
[1:31:25] Voice F: No. No. It uses substrate. Solana uses Rust, which is easily hackable, but Polkadot uses substrate, one of the most elite languages, especially created for the Polkadot blockchain, dude. Like, I I I I don't understand, like like, people that just fund Polkadot just to, like, fund it. You know? It's like, okay. I don't think
[1:31:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't think they're it. I don't think they're actively funding it. I think they're just like, it's
[1:31:52] Voice F: not They're just trying to troll Yeah.
[1:31:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It just hasn't shown up anywhere, like, ever, and we're just... That's why I asked, like, does it still have a pulse?
[1:31:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: You guys getting it wrong, man. It's all about the price, man. It's all about the price. This this this art industry, regardless of what happens, if a project has... Well price wise, it's successful. Even even if even if it has zero users and is at all time high, nobody cares about... It's all about price. If this thing is down eighty eighty, 90%, they say it's dead. Even though you could have devs on it and they have ETF and do all this stuff, It's not about the price.
[1:32:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: The same is thing. Is Coolline?
[1:32:29] Kool @koolcryptovc: The the the biggest reason why a lot of people love hype hype because it gave a lot of people airdrops, and the price is still doing very, very well. A lot of protocols, same thing. If Bitcoin, same thing. If Bitcoin was down 80% right now, people still hate it right now. But people are... You're still up because people bought Bitcoin at a dollar, man. So it's all about price.
[1:32:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Right? No.
[1:32:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's so true. Matters.
[1:32:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's all about price. It's all about the price.
[1:32:56] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: If no one is using the chain and it's maintaining just a steady number, but there's zero volume, then it's a dead chain. It doesn't matter Yeah.
[1:33:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: But if if
[1:33:06] Kool @koolcryptovc: if you have a dead chain and it's made multimillionaires, people are happy. Nobody cares about Facts. How many pieces of them, man.
[1:33:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, I just tell you the facts, man.
[1:33:16] Kool @koolcryptovc: I... It's... I I I saw a tweet about this recently Yeah. From
[1:33:19] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: saying he's DCA'd, though. So he's No.
[1:33:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. Not I'm
[1:33:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: not speaking about about poker. I'm just saying in general in general. In general I'm not speaking about poker. Industry is all about money. If you if your protocol makes money, then he's successful.
[1:33:33] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: But this doesn't
[1:33:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: With or without any users.
[1:33:35] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: That's what So so many users doesn't.
[1:33:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Who who loves who loves NFTs right now? Who who does? Please tell me if anyone loves NFTs. Come on.
[1:33:43] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: I love NFTs.
[1:33:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do you do you remember remember the rock? The rock. Baseball?
[1:33:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: Remember the rocks. Right? Those rocks are
[1:33:50] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: These are rocks.
[1:33:51] Kool @koolcryptovc: Rock is selling for school. 800 k. What what?
[1:33:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: That was, bro. That was probably, like Yeah.
[1:33:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: They loved NFTs back then. This is all about the money. When you make money and the price is retained, people are happy. If it jumps down with or without users, people are mad. It's all about the money.
[1:34:08] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: We talked about this today, how back in the day when those things were selling for, like, whatever, 800,000,000, trillion dollars, or whatever amount of money people were paying for. What was happening in that meta, in that era, was that there was a huge injection of liquidity into the market with airdrops. And when we talk about real airdrops, and I was talking about it today with real, like, life changing money airdrops, It wasn't like you get $12 to use my platform. It was like you use a platform one or two times and have some transactions on it, you get $5.06 figures. Like, that's... That that was the meta back then. It's not like that now. So do I still love NFTs? Absolutely. I feel like there's a huge shift in the meta and the user base that is buying into NFTs? Absolutely. But we're not getting the injections of liquidity we once were. That's the difference.
[1:35:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm not I'm not saying it's like it's... You you... You're gonna have people that still love NFTs. No problem. But a lot of people have changed their PFTs, man. They... These people owned punks. They didn't sell it. They just changed it because they're done, man. I mean, just... You have to think, for example, now, Justin Bieber bought his NFT for what? A what? $56,000,000? No.
[1:35:18] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: It's worth, like, one point Bieber bought his... You think he actually No.
[1:35:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I'm not of all it. Telling you about it.
[1:35:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: He's he's retail. He represents the the retail people. People get jaded, man. So at the end of the day at the end of the day, people wanna... They they wanna flex. They wanna make money. They wanna buy a house. They wanna buy a car. At the end of the day, it's about the money. If your projects has done well when it comes to the token price Token price is what it is, man. It's very it's very simple. Token price is the reason why you get more devs, more liquidity, more VC funds, more exposure. If your projects cannot get... You know, you know, give its its holders a good token price. They're going to leave, man. Yeah. It's just the way the game is played. That's just way it is.
[1:36:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I agree I agree with Cool on this. And also just to maybe put the polka dot thing to bed, just out of curiosity, I went to DeFi Llama, and I was just like, I wonder what DeFi Llama says. And, defi... Just FYI, DeFi TVL on Polkadot, $0. So I'm sorry there, Green, who has apparently left. And, also, the stable market cap on Polkadot is $77,500,000. Yeah. On a two
[1:36:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. They they... The the you you can't... Poker has been different, though. You can't really... You know, they don't they don't really have their own TVL. It's very different. What I'm saying... With Polkadot now, they have
[1:36:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do
[1:36:45] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: mean it doesn't have TVL, bro? Like, DeFi is No.
[1:36:47] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. It... You can't... It's it's not... It's it's a different Yeah.
[1:36:50] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: It doesn't come to the staking, but that's applicable for all of them.
[1:36:54] Kool @koolcryptovc: What... Okay. What what I'm
[1:36:55] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: saying what I'm
[1:36:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm saying saying is Polkadot right now is not necessarily... Is a good and bad and bad example. Polkadot right now, for example, it's part of the Coinbase 50. Coinbase, they have an index. The 50, you know, best projects according to them, Polkadot is there. Polkadot's getting ETF. It's gonna get a yes. A lot of people still believe in this stuff, but maybe a lot of you don't. But but at the end of the day, like I said, in crypto, when... Especially in the bear market, man, you could tell it's all about the money. When the bull comes, everything looks great, man. It looks... Everything looks beautiful. I'm not saying NFTs are bad. Of course, now I've just sold an NFT. I have NFT short. What I'm just saying is talking price, it's what it's what determines the success of a project on the surface. So, like, for example, now
[1:37:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: You're right. Because price built... Makes narratives in crypto.
[1:37:48] Kool @koolcryptovc: Right? Exactly. Agree. Coco. Now has one of the highest devs that that on it. Right? It's it's held this record for years. Right? But token price is bad, so people leave and they move on. Right?
[1:38:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: No.
[1:38:00] Kool @koolcryptovc: ICP is the same.
[1:38:02] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: I'm sure the base... Well, I'll need to check again, but I know ICP definitely has more devs.
[1:38:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. But... Look. ICP ICP is down. We're nice... 91.
[1:38:11] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: 90¢. But people are bullish on that, but people are not so bullish on Polkadot.
[1:38:15] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'm trying to tell you there's some people that are really bullish on Polkadot, man. I'm I'm I'm trying to tell you right now. I'm just... I'm being
[1:38:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: honest with This is sentiment at the end of the and we can't. Like, you... Because you're not doesn't mean that, like, I mean,
[1:38:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: you're Exactly.
[1:38:27] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. I agree. There's always gonna be people who are, like... It's... This is what crypto does well. It builds people who are, like like, green like that. I'm like that with certain projects, of course.
[1:38:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: It builds it it builds a cult following. Yeah. No. For sure. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't mean this protocol is dead. It doesn't mean it's bad. Whatever it is. All I'm saying is this is crypto. Anything that can happen. You never know. Next thing you know, well, Polka Dot does a 20 x in two weeks. So the hell knows, man. What I'm saying is, either at the end of the day, price is what matters. If if your token doesn't have a good price, nobody's gonna come come there to play. Hyperliquid is doing very, very well because it it it re... Like, I know people that it it retired them. This... When it does, I know. He made, like, what, $2,800,000 from from from Hyper Liquid. Retired it.
[1:39:16] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: So Yeah. But but I agree with this, Cole. But, like, what you gotta look at is, like, why has that occurred? Like, the the tailwinds with the was apparent because of the regulation that came in for centralized exchanges, and then you had the distrust with the centralized exchanges as well. So you had all that, like, as a tailwind, and then, you know, you had the the the the oil of... The fact of trading oil. Like, people were having issues trading on traditional markets, they were able to use a permissionless exchange like that. And then you have a used product that even if the price dumped to, like, a dollar or $5, people will be like, oh, this is a this is a product that's actually got a product market fit. This is an actual product that's generating revenue. Whereas Polkadot money. Yes. It's making money. Exactly. Where's Polkadot, bro? Like, this last point. Sorry.
[1:40:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: I'll give it... Look at look at Uniswap. Uniswap has been down seven to 80%. Yeah. Uniswap came out. It it came in at $4. Right? Uniswap is still, what, $56 now. After about five, six years. Uniswap is one the most successful protocols that's ever launched ever. But look at the price. Price is probably......
[1:40:23] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: The value accrual wasn't there. They've only switched that on very recently recently because of the fears of the buyback and burn element of the security side of things....
[1:40:30] Kool @koolcryptovc: All about the price.
[1:40:31] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: Because if... Yes. But the price is influenced by the token economics. So what I'm trying to say is with Polkadot No. Yes, you can have manipulation, but unless you have actual tangible of... You
[1:40:43] Kool @koolcryptovc: just said users. You you... Poker that has more... Sorry. Unitswap has more users than HyperLiquid. I'm like... I'm I'm not crazy. Right? Mean...
[1:40:50] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: No. So again, there there was no value accrual. What I mean by that is you can have them generating 10,000,000,000 in revenue, but if none of that is going into the token economy, that is irrelevant. And they only switched that on within the last year if that... And then you also had the fact that they did that airdrop, which was sustained selling pressure. Like, it was one of the best airdrops ever, and and that that continues sustained selling pressure for years. But, yeah, the the fee switch on has... Like, that was a discussion point recently. Like, the the the buyback and burn thing or buyback or whatever has become, like like, is is is cool now, like, fine to do is... So to speak. But everybody in utility token wise had fears of being classed as a security token, so they they they avoided that.
[1:41:35] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Like, I think the the whole point I'm trying to to to make here is crypto is is growing, is expanding, is becoming more mature. Bear markets do expose the fake prod... Protocols. A lot of actual good projects have horrible tokenomics. At social token... Tokenomic, which hurts the project. So a lot of these devs and founders, once once they they raise money in in the bear market at very... You know, from from VCs that don't don't don't really care about them. So even though the project is good, it's just, unfortunately, the tokenomics is bad. So it's very weird to say because you can have a good projects with bad tokenomics and a bad pro... Projects with good tokenomics. By the end of day, token price. To me, now after all these years in crypto, it's all about the money for me now. I I don't care about... You know, I I used to be, okay. I like this protocol. I don't care about that anymore, man. It's all about the money. You you take care of yourself first. Because if you don't if you don't... Like, I've learned. I've lost a lot of money in this game because I was trusting this person, trusting that person. In 2026 onward, none none of that matters, man. You take care of yourself first and your family before anything else because I've... Yeah. That's what... That's that's the game. That's the game.
[1:42:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it. Cool. Guys, I do gotta jump. Esh, go ahead. I'll give you the last word, then we gotta... And then I gotta close-up.
[1:43:00] 🌱Esh @ItsEshOnX: Thanks. Sounds good. I just wanted to point out, not to further fund, but it is definitely fun. Polkadots down, like, nearly 98% from the all time highs. Also, it has a 10% inflationary contract on it. So, literally, like, out of all the plays you can get into, Polkadot is certainly not it. Like, there's better plays, obviously. But, yeah, if you're a Maxi, you probably only like it because the name is Polkadot. That's that's the last thing I wanted to say. And there was
[1:43:28] Agent Naeem @AgentNaeem: the supreme leader Gavin Wood.
[1:43:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: He said doctor Gavin Wood. He threw the doctorate in there too. Guys, I love this. I'm glad we were able to get together at the end of the week. For all those that are celebrating the end of the holiday, enjoy eating your pizzas and your non matzahs and your bread and your bagels and whatever. But, yeah, no. Good stuff. Cool. Nat, as always, Ash, appreciate you. Widow, Brad, Samara, Naim. Yeah. Great. Great. Great stuff. And to everybody down there listening, appreciate you guys coming through. Hope everybody has a great weekend. And, yeah, Widow, Moni wants to run that space for this weekend if you... If you're down about, like, how people are making money. So let's definitely coordinate and see if you guys wanna do that. So... But, yeah, appreciate y'all. I'll talk to y'all later, man. Have a good weekend, everybody. Peace.
[1:44:22] Samara @thee_samara: Let's go fucking.
[1:44:24] Widow | collab manager @TheOnlyWidow: Yes.