ATC Markets: Polymarket Creators All Fougazi?

# ATC Markets: Polymarket Creators All Fougazi? | 2026-06-24 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1nGeLLoeBvPKX | status: approved
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[0:00:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was a rug out of nowhere. I guess, you know, hey. You popped your cherry. You know what I mean? Kinda one of those. Yeah. You know, at least we we pop... We popped our ATC cherry. It is what it is now. Oh, now I gotta go back inside and come up from my account. My god. Listen. Write a passage, guys. It is what it is. You know?
[0:00:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: You didn't like our bearish tea. You could've just said that.
[0:00:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm just... You know, like, enough of this nonsense, 50. The hell are you guys doing over here? Ridiculousness. I went for 30 k, you piece of shit. You told me 30 k. Alright? That's where I'm
[0:00:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: 35 to 25.
[0:00:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Fair enough. I'll put some at 35. 37 just to be safe. 39, I'll even buy some for freak's sake.
[0:00:59] Ryan @Rlad1776: Can I just say the worst part about it all is that Landy's gonna have to start from the beginning again?
[0:01:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. He's not. No. He's not. No. He's not. No. We're gonna pick up right where we left off. Because, actually, I I had a I had a question, but I know Brent had his hand up, I wanna go to Brent first. And then I have a... An actual, like, serious question for you guys. Brent, go ahead, bro. What's good?
[0:01:17] Bread @_ToastMalone: GM gang. Yeah. Question about, essentially, liquidity, in crypto overall. And if we think that when the aliens land in ten minutes at the Brazil Scotland game, they will buy our bags.
[0:01:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So they're just waiting for for Bitcoin to hit extremely low levels so they can buy more. They're the ones that... That's placing those orders at 35 k that I've been watching. Right? So they're interested in Bitcoin. Ethereum, not so much. I did try to convince them on the Ethereum and Hedera, but they wanna wait it out. I'm sure Landy has to take on this stuff.
[0:01:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: We don't really have the money with Terra.
[0:01:54] Moni @monitalan: I feel with the I feel with the aliens that were going into this analyzing a bit more on that side of things just to
[0:02:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop it. Stop it.
[0:02:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: The aliens are only gonna be buying XRP. Didn't you know? It's literally the Galactic Federation's coin. Hello?
[0:02:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Like to point out
[0:02:13] Ryan @Rlad1776: that, Brad, you missed out, dude. There's a secondary market on that where you could've gotten a premium. So you waited the last minute, and good luck.
[0:02:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, wait. My my fellow lizard people had just messaged me. It's not just XRP. It's Stellar Lumens. Algo.
[0:02:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Wait. Wait. Wait.
[0:02:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: Wait a minute. Oh, hell, yes. Send Lumens.
[0:02:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: They're they're looking they're looking at at my at my portfolio. Okay. Okay.
[0:02:36] Moni @monitalan: The truth is out there.
[0:02:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ridiculous with your analizations here. Anyways, I do have a serious I do have a serious question. What happens, like, in a couple years if, let's say, there's a whole new administrate... Obviously, there will be a new administration coming in, and it's a democratic administration. It's a noncrypto friendly administration. Are we at the point now where we're too integrated? Like like, does Bitcoin hold its value, or, like, is there... Is that, like, a a risk factor that somebody should be kind of factoring into their investment thesis per se in a couple years for new regime change? You heard that's a regime change as if...
[0:03:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sir, there's no kings. Okay? No kings. Right. Right. Right. Right.
[0:03:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're the poll worker. Tell me. What's the deal? What do you think?
[0:03:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hold on. I need to... Sorry. Dave, real quick. Can you bring back up your stressed out p f p f p and put it as as cohost, please? Thank you.
[0:03:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I gotta get... Gotta go back inside, but once I'm done with the cigarette, for sure. I'm actually really smart with the cigarette.
[0:03:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. The truth. The reality is is that the market itself and some of the biggest players within the market already started to move in the direction of spot ETFs and crypto adoption at large at... Oh, god. You kidding me?
[0:03:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: On. Answer my series
[0:03:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: of movies.
[0:04:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. I just... I totally broke
[0:04:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: time and place for the comedy. Wait.
[0:04:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just let the federation hang out. Please answer my comment. Hold on. So, yeah, they were already well under way with with their plans to adopt crypto and incorporate crypto into various financial products. That's not gonna go away. I don't... I... You know, even if they were to become more restrictive, like, what are they gonna do? They're just gonna launch their own CBDCs and then tell us that we need to use those. So I... And and that's probably gonna be the inevitable conclusion of everything once the Federal Reserve just adopts a particular stablecoin. And then, you know, then we can all live our wonderful surveillance lifestyle where, you know, you transfer more than $600 and the the the Fed comes through and pauses your stable transfer. So, look, I I don't see... Even a crypto unfriendly administration, I think, would be more on the business side of things. How would that hamper some of the biggest players in the world that would be adopting, you know, things for whether it be treasuries or backing assets or to productize?
[0:05:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. We'd be too far along to unravel, essentially. Yeah?
[0:05:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. What it could do is just stifle, you know, or cap upside. I... You know, I don't think that it would be anything unexpected, though.
[0:05:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are the banks not, like, plotting this already? You know what I mean? Because, obviously, like, you know, Jamie Dimon, the... It's no secret, and Brian Armstrong are obviously not the best of buds. But, like, are they... Yeah.
[0:05:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... Well, you know, I think they're playing roles in the public eye that that many don't say. Look. Brian Armstrong... Brett Armstrong is no...
[0:05:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Brian Armstrong.
[0:05:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Brian Armstrong is no... Look. There... He's he's really no less slimy than Jamie Dimon. So they're both slime balls, and one just as, you know, a bald head and wants to get into the red shoe club. So at this point, it's more of what can they do for the fiat arrangements that works for everybody that is satisfactory there. And I think that the other sides will just adjust. As for crypto adoption and overall higher prices in longer... In the longer term for things like Bitcoin, I think that that's inevitable. But what I would say is in a much more restrictive administration, you're probably gonna see an aggregation and a mass calling of coins. We're gonna see that anyway, but I think it would happen much quicker. A mass calling of coins that do all the same shit stuff. I meant stuff.
[0:06:39] Ryan @Rlad1776: That needs to happen so badly.
[0:06:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: I wish it would happen now, but it's not... It's gonna be a process.
[0:06:45] Ryan @Rlad1776: Like, send them to the fucking pink sheets. Enough already. But to Dave's question, like, nothing... It's here to stay. What you will get if you get a change of administration is a shit ton of regulation. That's... I mean, just to nut it down, that's what's gonna happen. And, yes, I'll pay the fine in Haberra because it's really cheap right now. So I'll... I'm cursing like crazy.
[0:07:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Let's go to Shaqxi. Let's see if his Starlink is working. Shaqxi.
[0:07:13] Shaksi @shaksi: Starlink is working far better than your connection. And... Yeah. So I'm just here for
[0:07:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Apparently, fines.
[0:07:22] Shaksi @shaksi: Just wanted to Called it. Yeah. And I'm waiting for the alien arrival. Thank you. I'm done.
[0:07:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. That's commitment. Like, he wait... He had his hand up this whole time just for that one liner, just to say called it. I guess, like, Natalie's literally rubbing off on you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:07:40] Moni @monitalan: Well well, who's rubbing off on him?
[0:07:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of course.
[0:07:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's fine.
[0:07:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm just saying, Natalie will literally be like, I'll be right back. I'm going into this space to say I told you so and called it, and then I'll be right back. Like, she literally will go to another... Like, leave a space, be like, I
[0:07:55] Moni @monitalan: need But that's a mic drop moment. That's... Absolutely. You have to take the wind and go
[0:08:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, y'all ain't gonna forget my name. That's the damn show. You're learn today. You're gonna learn today.
[0:08:06] Moni @monitalan: And everybody would learn so well with Mat Mat. She does it with style. You have to admire her. She just got penalized about her. She's brilliant.
[0:08:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: And participation in trophies.
[0:08:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Thank you. Very positive vibes. That's what it is. Right? Nana Nana is all inclusive to everyone. Everyone gets the trophy, but I'm dying to hear what the Galactic Federation has to say about Really?
[0:08:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're gonna shill they're gonna shill a CA. You real... You're really dying to hear what they have to say? Like, 10 to one odds I give you they don't even speak.
[0:08:35] Moni @monitalan: But they may speak alien. We could be missing a chance to hear alien language. You never know. Right. With today Mhmm.
[0:08:42] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's Satoshi, bro. What if Satoshi pops out of the ship?
[0:08:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's right. Oh my god. Yo. Gala... What's the c a o? G f o f. Speak about the paint sheets, Ryan. There you go. OF stocks. All you're missing is the wise. Galactic Federation of Finance, the floor is yours. Please, chill us.
[0:09:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wow. Pay up, Natalie.
[0:09:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Pay up. I didn't agree to this bet. You were talking to yourself the entire
[0:09:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: See, you never agreed to anything I say. You never Really?
[0:09:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: So then... Okay. So then the silver bet, I just made that up?
[0:09:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. No. You you you mercied me into submission into your $50... No. Into my $130. I wanted a $110.15, but you said no.
[0:09:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Of course. Because you wanted it easy for you and harder for me. So in order to even in order to even out the in order to even out the odds, we both went at extremes.
[0:09:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Wait. What? Can I ask you? What did Shaqxi say called it on? Like, they
[0:09:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: called No idea. No idea. Shaqxi, what what did you say calling on?
[0:09:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I heard the curse. I tuned out, and then I heard him say called it.
[0:09:49] Shaksi @shaksi: I mean, since this whole second conversation started, I didn't hear anybody... You know, Nat Nat didn't say called it, and her husband didn't say called So I thought I'd just get in there.
[0:10:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll allow it.
[0:10:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Of course, you would allow it. I won't allow it. So I think next time you could, mine's triple.
[0:10:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Guys, look at my PFP as a cohost. Alright? Don't mess with me.
[0:10:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't know. That's my mood too. Stress the hell out.
[0:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm stressed out.
[0:10:14] Moni @monitalan: You know?
[0:10:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: But it's off center, and it's freaking bug... It's stressing me out because it's
[0:10:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: not the center logo. You can't see the cigarette. Right? I know. That drives people crazy. Bro
[0:10:25] Ryan @Rlad1776: I was wondering. Do we have to have a funeral for the dog?
[0:10:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. No. No.
[0:10:28] Ryan @Rlad1776: I was thinking about this.
[0:10:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Will change by tomorrow, by the way. Hunter and I are hosting the Good Times space. But, yeah, as of right now, I am badge less, duck less, and I'm feeling good.
[0:10:42] Ryan @Rlad1776: Alright. How about an agnostic memorial service?
[0:10:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair. How was that sound? Fair. I'm also learning a lot about YouTube shorts and reels and clips and how much of a pain in the ass this stuff is and how you have to put shorts out in order to get views on your on your... This is... It's a whole this is a whole formula. Alright? Mister Beast deserves the 300,000,000 that he freaking made last year. It's crazy.
[0:11:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do you ever, like, look at everything you need to do and just go to yourself like, man, it's a lot of shit.
[0:11:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Take a fucking old man nap at that point. That's why I'm just like, nah. Not today. Right? I I take a drink of my cigarette as you see me here with my with my superimposed Nick shirt on. That could have been us. Well, you know what? That's a cigarette of celebration. That's not a cigarette of frustration. Okay? There's a difference.
[0:11:31] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. That's right after he sold his AI company to Netflix for 600,000,000.
[0:11:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go figure. Ben Affleck. How you like them apples? Right? Anyone?
[0:11:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Well, it was the diversity baby. Is the diversity, equity, and inclusion AI. And, clearly, Netflix has been driving that, very, very hard. And, you know, they've they've really picked up the slack from the other companies.
[0:12:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can we can we talk about this also?
[0:12:02] Ryan @Rlad1776: So Hey. Another $6, I can close my short out, and then I'm in deep value when I'm going long.
[0:12:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, d e f e? D... Oh, we also have to talk about Wendy's, by the way. They're gonna GME Wendy's. I've been seeing this all over the place. I'm in the DMs with Wall Street bets. He's like, bro, I think it's... Like, this is this is gonna happen. So, like, every... Let... You know what? Let's talk about this right now. So Wendy's, like, Nat, maybe you got... You guys could tell a bit... Like, story better. I just read one or two posts today. But, essentially, the... Like, Reddit is all... Is literally set ablaze on Wendy's. Right? Same kind of market conditions, heavy, heavy short on the on the hedge fund on the hedge fund side of Wendy's. The business is obviously failing. It's not profitable. They see the downside. They're shorting this to kingdom come. Insert Wall Street bets once again. We all remember what happened with GameStop, GME, and that all insanity. This has the more... I'm seeing... I'm I'm hearing the whispers. The... Like, I'm seeing the posts, like, subtly subtly, but you know how this stuff goes. This is like lighting a match. Next thing you know, 50,000 Redditors are out there buying every single share of Wendy's they possibly can because they love freaking steak and french fries in their Frostys. No. They wanna screw the man on Wall Street like they did last time.
[0:13:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: I thought the reason why it was pumping is because retail woke up hungry for some price.
[0:13:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not retail. Like, the like, the freaking subreddits. Like, the the...
[0:13:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's retail. That is retail.
[0:13:30] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Well, hang on. So is the play here to long the hell out of it at, like, a 100 x leverage on all of the platforms? Like,
[0:13:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: all of everything. I mean, as much Wendy's as you can get your hands on.
[0:13:44] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. But, like, the shares or do... Like, should you own actual shares
[0:13:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: of Wendy's, or do you
[0:13:48] Bread @_ToastMalone: just wanna own positions and, like, contracts on them as far as options?
[0:13:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: All of it. All of it, bro. You you think that Rory Kitty's gonna be sitting back with his beautiful flowing locks of hair in his Massachusetts basement saying to himself, you know what? Should I choose between an open echo... Like, an open stock position or options. My man freaking dabbles in all of it. But, of course, we... This wouldn't be a show if we wouldn't have our resident, for much in quant to come up and tell us why this isn't a play. And, obviously, now you get both sides of the story. Hello, Milo. How are you?
[0:14:24] Milo @0dteSPY: Hello. How is everybody today?
[0:14:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Doing great. Thank you. I could be doing better if you don't flood my Wendy's bags.
[0:14:33] Milo @0dteSPY: So remember, if we're talking about Roaring Kitty, he buys options in 5,000 blocks. Okay? So it's 5,000 contracts per block. That's what he buys. So if you're looking for him to be in there, you always look for 5,000. The second thing that I will remind you, I was actually banned from Wall Street bets for a while. So could it go up?
[0:14:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you back now?
[0:14:59] Milo @0dteSPY: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:15:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[0:15:02] Milo @0dteSPY: We we made up couple years ago. But...
[0:15:06] Moni @monitalan: Oh,
[0:15:07] Ryan @Rlad1776: shit. I was just about to congratulate you, Marlo.
[0:15:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: I got...
[0:15:10] Ryan @Rlad1776: Didn't let me know what the badge of honor, dude.
[0:15:12] Milo @0dteSPY: So... No. I'm gonna fuck the guy. Fucking Tim Apple. He's a bitch. Okay? He goes by opinion. He's a douchebag.
[0:15:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Alright. Let's
[0:15:19] Milo @0dteSPY: to fucking monetize that shit. They're a bunch of fucking retards.
[0:15:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: The mods went Christ.
[0:15:25] Milo @0dteSPY: The mods went full fucking dumbass. And I'm sorry for cursing, but I'm not sorry.
[0:15:31] Moni @monitalan: Oh, wow.. Okay. Okay.
[0:15:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Keep going.
[0:15:36] Milo @0dteSPY: So here's where I'm gonna go with this. Could you make money? Yes. Are the $20.28 $10 contracts probably attractive? Absolutely. But don't go crazy because, you know, it's still Wendy's. Everybody works behind Wendy's. And, you know, it could go up. It could go down. You know? I may have entered some contracts. I may not have.
[0:16:11] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: Well, how
[0:16:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: short is the right now? What's that? Milo? What? Sorry, Lindy. Give me one second. Milo, how short is the street right now?
[0:16:22] Milo @0dteSPY: So if you... Okay. So let's look at Wendy's. Right? Let's talk about Wendy's. Right?
[0:16:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's what I'm asking about. Wendy's.
[0:16:28] Milo @0dteSPY: Okay. So here we go. Here's the deal. Right? Like, the burgers suck. Okay? The the chicken nuggets suck. They're trying to change to some more natural bullshit because, right, because it's not working. My kids like the banana frosty that they got. So there's some stuff going on. They are not... They do make money. They're not they're not broke. Right? But they're... You know, it's declining quarter over quarter. So here's what you have. You have a bad product. You have sort of, like, this meme thing. By the way, if you don't follow the Wendy's account on on Twitter, like, I don't know what you're doing. But at the same time, right, like, you know, it's... Like, I think it's, like, at a eight p e, but it's also a yield trap. So you have a very interesting case. Yeah. They're starting to pile in blah blah blah, but we've seen what can happen. You can't handle the volatility, don't take the trade. Let's retard and, just put on your helmet. Let's go.
[0:17:41] Ryan @Rlad1776: Can I just say while everybody was aping into Wendy's this morning because I missed it, I went over and bought Jack in the Box for a swing, and I made 16% on the sympathy trade?
[0:17:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Really?
[0:17:54] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. Shit.
[0:17:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're Does Jack in the Box make money?
[0:17:58] Ryan @Rlad1776: I don't give a shit. I mean, it's like I did.
[0:18:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, wait. Why'd you choose Jack in the Box and not, like, Burger King?
[0:18:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's a bad play.
[0:18:05] Ryan @Rlad1776: I I just sympathy play. I figured somebody's aping in here, and somebody else could figure out how to make money off of all these other shit show, you know, fast food restaurants and So you just took a punch that'll
[0:18:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jack in the Box, like, but not Carl's Jr's or, like,
[0:18:20] Ryan @Rlad1776: any because I like Jack in the Box I like Jack in the Box breakfast. And
[0:18:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: so Okay. Fair enough.
[0:18:24] Ryan @Rlad1776: Alright. There you go. Where I went.
[0:18:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: So because I'm like, Jack in
[0:18:27] Moni @monitalan: is the
[0:18:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: such a strange name. Yeah.
[0:18:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: The Jack in the Box is awesome. You can
[0:18:35] Bread @_ToastMalone: get a little mini tacos there too.
[0:18:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah.
[0:18:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dude, those... What's it called that they serve? Are those, what are they... The... Oh my god. Why am I blanking on the sugar? Nat, this is gonna be hell... Churros? Churros. The mini churros. Thank you.
[0:18:50] Milo @0dteSPY: There you go.
[0:18:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Alright, Landon. Go ahead. Give us your No.
[0:18:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I got I got banned for Wall Street bets for telling everybody that I was going short, and it was the actual top. And they were very, very angry with me. And I said... They said that I was a fake quant TA guy that needed to get wrecked, and they were gonna push me out of my short side position. And I told them, I'll see you at new lows, and you're all gonna get wrecked. And then they all got wrecked, and we saw them at new lows. So I began to post p and l screenshots. By the way, that's the last time that I'm gonna do that ever because then they hunted me down via my IP because I did not use my VPN at that point. I was being a little stupid. And I literally got a dog shit in in a box at my front door. Thank you, Wall Street Bets. So I started a feud with them. I got banned multiple times. I told them that they were retarded and that Roaring Kitty was in on the whole thing to drag all their liquidity into the dirt and use them as exit liquidity for the hedge fund that never would go under. And I was right about every single aspect of that. Not a single point of what I just said was I incorrect about, but, yep, Warren Kitty's still a successful white knight of the little guy in the markets. Right? No. It's a bunch of bullshit. It's always been bullshit. You can't out market make a market maker or the market makers that are making those markets. How do you think you're getting those stupid spreads, you morons? Come on. Give me a break. Look. This thing pops up anymore, and guess who's gonna be building a short just like on silver? Guess what? They were trying to push up as well at the same time. Everybody missed that they were behind the whole, we're gonna push silver. No. They're just riding the train of other bigger players that were going in to blow out the short side interest anyway. That's what happened today. That's why you saw the wick come down because all they did was provide a nice bit of exit liquidity and some good position building back to the upside. They could run this thing a 100 to 300% up, and they're going to pile in at the top, and they're gonna provide all of the beautiful exit liquidity for everybody. So please go ahead and run this thing. If you can't handle the volatility like Milo said, and you're gonna sit here and go, like, it's gonna be like GameStop. Remember what GameStop actually did. It ran up, and then it went immediately down. So and...
[0:21:23] Ryan @Rlad1776: Well, it went immediately down because they needed a little help.
[0:21:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, you don't seem to...
[0:21:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: They need a little help. They need
[0:21:29] Ryan @Rlad1776: a little grayed out button.
[0:21:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: They need a little... You don't seem to understand that the game is not a game that you can win. You will be trapped at the top if you don't know what you are doing. And if you take the wrong options, by the way, you're screwed either way whether you hit... Whether you're in the money or not. Yeah.
[0:21:49] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. Landy, I don't disagree. I'm just saying, like but they they did, like, they did get caught offsides on GameStop.
[0:21:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: They did not get caught as offsides as you think they did. Okay. Alright. Here's why.
[0:22:02] Ryan @Rlad1776: You know what? You're always right. You're right. No.
[0:22:03] Moni @monitalan: No. No. No. But
[0:22:04] Ryan @Rlad1776: I will say this.
[0:22:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna tell you this. Right? I have never seen more
[0:22:08] Ryan @Rlad1776: stocks get halted in the last Okay. Like, two weeks Alright. Than I
[0:22:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna take the piss out of you for this one because there's something that you don't seem to understand about that entire situation. The the fund that was super short on it, they didn't get out there in front of the narrative for no reason. You understand that. Right? They had an out the entire time. Everyone knew that they had an out, including Wall Street bets. That was my point. If you think that just because they're halting the colors Mandy.
[0:22:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do you mean? Melvin shut down.
[0:22:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: He didn't he didn't shut down going broke.
[0:22:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do you mean? Why would he shut down? Bro, they thought had backstop
[0:22:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: in in Delray. Didn't happen. Dave, they covered.
[0:22:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, eventually, they covered, but not before they fucking literally took... I think it was 6 or 8,000,000,000 in losses that was too much for them to be able to withstand, and they got fucking
[0:23:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: crushed, bro.
[0:23:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. They they didn't. No. That is not why they... No. First off, that is not what ended up happening. See, this is this is the whole narrative built around this. I'm just gonna fight with everybody here because you... You're you're talking about at one point at max pain that they were at. They covered all of it. They actually didn't lose money. They ended up making money at the end of the day and then folding and restarting because they had other positions that they couldn't do the deals with. This is all... It's a it's a mess of who's connected to who in Wall Street and who's backing who in Wall Street. They got the money to get out. Yes. Did they get trapped? Yes. That was the only success, but you're never gonna win in the long run. That's why it went immediately down. And on the pop back up, everybody thought they were gonna fight and win. Now Melvin's out. He's underwater. No. They ended up covering the entire thing. He ended up walking away making money, and then everybody got wrecked on the secondary pop up.
[0:24:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: A lot of these firms that were caught up, they made a lot of money back by covering. Yes. But, also, they shorted the hell out of penny stocks too back in the days.
[0:24:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes.
[0:24:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: And they made a lot of money doing that.
[0:24:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: And what you gotta understand, Ryan, it's not about Landy being right. It's about Landy understanding what was going on, and there's things that people don't seem to understand about those markets. They latch onto the stupid narratives, and they think that those stupid narratives are the truth.
[0:24:29] Ryan @Rlad1776: Lady, I'm not latching on I'm not latching on to the narratives. I understand the die... The the dynamics of what went down there. But at the end of the day, they definitely... Like, I'm... The only point I'm trying to make is they got caught off sides. And, yes, over a long period of time, it's the golden rule. You know, he or she who has a gold makes fucking rules. Like, they do win. I get it. But they didn't expect that to happen. And now you got a dipshit like Roaring Kitty out there who's got gajillions of dollars, like, you know, you know, getting people to stop their day to go sit in on some stupid ass webcast he's doing where he's, like, stoned out of his mind. Right? I mean, that that that was luck and whatever, but I I I understand what you're saying. And So you know, it'll... Over a long period of time, they're not gonna lose. But they did they did have to fold shop. Let's just, you know, be honest.
[0:25:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Citadel rescued them. Citadel definitely came to
[0:25:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: the rescue.
[0:25:29] Ryan @Rlad1776: Citadel and the government and Robin Hood, you know, shutting down the buy button and all... And... Absolutely. They all they all they all conspired.
[0:25:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So now here... Here's... This is this is what I've been wanting to say since before. And this is why I think the Wendy play... Because it it... It's not some crazy fancy explanation. You don't need to know the inner workings of the market. You need to know one very simple thing in terms of how the retail trader, Reddit trader, whoever, right, is going into this thinking. When g... When GameStop happened in January, it was $17. Okay? January 20... January 13, $31. January 22, $65. January 26, $147. January 27, $347. January 28, hit an intraday high of $483. That meteoric rise, right, 17, 31, 65, $1.47, you're pricing the majority of people out. Right? Like, yes, they can still buy and and and allocate their capital. But, like, people can genuinely buy... Like, there's gonna be more interest at something like $7.68 in Wendy's that's still down at this level that people can put on more sizable positions the same way that they did with GameStop. That's genuinely the way that I see this. I've seen it happen a ton of times before on what... Like, a bazillion times, but obviously, they don't know who the players on the other side of the Wendy's thing is. So I I gotta do a little bit more... A little bit... Yeah. Milo, do you know? Who who are the guys that are that are that are short now?
[0:27:01] Milo @0dteSPY: You have to remember one key piece of all this. Right? And that was everybody was locked in the house, people were getting COVID checks, and they dumped it in the market. That's not the world today. Could it squeeze? Facts. Absolutely. To 400? I don't think so.
[0:27:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crazier things. You're not a... You're a conspiracy of yours until you're not. We'll see. Yeah. Moni, go ahead. But thank you, Milo.
[0:27:27] Moni @monitalan: I just wanna give a brief football interruption. Your commercial break. Brazil, one zero. No alien invasion. Haiti, one zero. No alien invasion yet.
[0:27:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Haiti's winning one zero? Yes. Let's go. Shout out to Haiti. Let's fucking go. Love that. And we call them we call them breaks. The. Alright? Hydration breaks here on ATC as well. You guys want me to play some music, like, for three minutes while you go and buy some Wendy's? Frosty's?
[0:28:03] Moni @monitalan: They're so fun.
[0:28:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, here... Here's the the short percentage of shares outstanding on Wednesdays is at... We're we're at anywhere
[0:28:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: your whole life. Wendy's.
[0:28:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm I'm I'm irritated by this entire situation because
[0:28:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tell me. Go.
[0:28:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Here's why. Because most of the most of the liquidity was trapped at the top. What you have to understand is there was other institutions that were stepping in and bidding it up as well. And the spreads went wild, and people tried to copy what he was doing. The only way that that that you were making money is if you were buying the underlying, which the... Which you're just getting an IOU at the end of the day because there was no... There was more stocks shorted than there was shares available. We do not have that situation with Wendy's. You have a... But on the high side, percentage of short float is 37% on the high side. But it really depends on which calculations you're using. You've got Yeah. Right now, you've got... You have the ability to squeeze, but this isn't the type of situation that was going on with GameStop at the time. But the majority of the liquidity was retail liquidity trapped at the top that were both trying to play the spread that ended up losing got blown out on the option side. And the other ones were... That were at the top, the majority of that liquidity came in for GameStop. If you go back and you look at that, there there was a couple weeks where it was just rocketing up. Right? It became the talk of the town. Everybody's getting into it. The majority of that liquidity got trapped at around the... This was 2021. We're looking at... The majority of the liquidity, I have a
[0:29:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: spreadsheet for this.
[0:29:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm not looking at the exact top. Most of that liquidity got trapped around $60, and that was... The majority of that was retail liquidity. And then all of the institutions turned the positions on them. So this was this was catastrophic for retail, and Wall Street ended up winning at the end of the day. Doesn't matter what your... How you wanna chop it up in terms of what happened to the original short squeeze guy because he ended up getting out with a parachute and $200,000,000 and a new fund funded to the tune of $1,500,000,000. So yeah. Right. But it's still it's
[0:30:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: still a win at the end of the day. Like like, Melvin shut
[0:30:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: down Spain
[0:30:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: the following year, bro. They literally shut down.
[0:30:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's like in the meme coin market. Who won, Dave? Who won? The top 5%. That's it.
[0:30:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: I get it, bro. Like, the decks are, like, the decks are stacked. Like, I I I understand. Right? Like, it's a rig game at the end of the day. Right? Just look at what happened with fucking Robin Hood. I never thought Robin Hood was gonna survive that. How you can literally turn off the buy button was wild to me. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.
[0:30:58] Ryan @Rlad1776: They had
[0:30:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: no... They had no liquidity. They weren't the only one.
[0:31:00] Ryan @Rlad1776: They had no liquidity. Like
[0:31:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, that's that's what's crazy. Like, that's what's crazy. And they went to Capitol Hill. And this was the best part about it as I'm looking and and doing the research. The SEC later concluded that much of the January price surge was driven by retail buying rather than for short covering alone. Debate over the extent of short covering continues within the GameStop community, but it said that Melvin Capital by the... By January 26 had covered its its short position. But by January 26, you're already in the four... Almost in the $300 range. So, yeah, no no surprise that they obviously shut down. But, look, we're just trying to have a little bit of fun with the Wendy's thing, make the correlation at the end of the day. Everybody be smart. Don't be stupid. Right? Like, don't just go through your life savings into Wendy's because you like the Twitter account. You know what I'm saying? Don't do that. Please don't do that.
[0:31:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have... So I have this shit coin. If you'd like to also speculate on things that you could short squeeze, there's a lot of short float on this. It's about 99% shorted. So if you go ahead and you buy this Landy coin, go ahead and buy this. You can definitely push me out of position. There's definitely not gonna be a flood of liquidity and tokens coming in from the other side. And don't worry. We're not gonna split it, like, 15 times to increase supply as well so that we have cover in the future. So when you try to do this again to us, we can just squash you like a little bug.
[0:32:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: I wanna put... I squeezed Landy out of a trade on my freaking resume. For sure, I'm buying the whole supply. Oh, look
[0:32:23] Moni @monitalan: at me.
[0:32:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: It it... Well, then I could just print new supply. There's a little print button here.
[0:32:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not like you could just make money out of thin air. This isn't crypto.
[0:32:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. Oh oh, we can't do that in contracts? We can't do... Oh, okay. We... Remember, we also can't stop your USDT or USDC transactions on chain either.
[0:32:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And we're anonymous. Duh.
[0:32:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nobody knows who I am. Yeah. Well
[0:32:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nobody knows who I am.
[0:32:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You're you're a satellite dish.
[0:32:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. As far as they're concerned.
[0:32:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Or Ben Affleck.
[0:32:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Milo, you're back. What's up?
[0:33:01] Milo @0dteSPY: Look. If you if you wanna play the the the Wendy's game, buy a couple of shares. You'll have skin in the game. And if it goes up, close half on a double and call it a day. You got to play. You got to get the excitement. You got to have the rush. You got to have the GME feel again, or you can go all the way out, buy some leaps, maybe in the money, and see what happens. Buy more than one contract
[0:33:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: short all of this.
[0:33:28] Milo @0dteSPY: Buy more than one contract. I mean, it's got a PE of, like, eight or something stupid. Whatever.
[0:33:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: I made so much money shorting AMC. I got so much hate. This was when stock twist was on the rise, and everyone was counting or or talking about AMC going to 10,000. Someone did a fancy breakdown, like, a whole two page letter on why AMC is going to 10,000. I read the first line, and I was like, oh my god. We're going to zero. And we got close to zero. I got to one. So that was a great deal.
[0:34:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's when one of the insiders was like, wait a minute. We can issue more shares? Fuck it, Johnson. Yeah. 250,000,000. Out the door. The market will take you. Done.
[0:34:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, it's like, before the stocks split for those that that are look... That might have questions, $60 was, like, that $300... $2.80 to $300 range for GME. AMC was the easiest, clearest short on the planet. They... Trying to do two at once was the stupidest idea because they could have kept they could have kept squeezing because what you have to understand is Mhmm. They would've let the spreads blow out on the option side. Fine. They... Who cares at the end of the day because on the opposite side, you're just gonna get paid to take it. So the the... You're just filling on the way up. And this is where, you know, Wendy's, honestly, they're right at support. So, like, as an analyst, you're looking at this area as support after a massive rundown since September '24. Right? All the way down to that low, we swung a big liquidity low. We didn't quite tap the major lows at $5.64. It... You could easily get with that, you know, on the high side, quote, 37% short on float. You could put... You could potentially see this go and trade to 14 to $16 or something. And
[0:35:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Which would make puts so cheap because I remember just buying a few grand worth of AMC puts, and it totaled, like, lot, a lot of contracts.
[0:35:40] Moni @monitalan: Uh-huh.
[0:35:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Float up because they were that cheap. And those
[0:35:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: are spring The spreads were blown. They they were literally blown out the water. Alright. And So Same thing's gonna happen here.
[0:35:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Alright, guys. Go get your Frostys. Okay. I wanna go to Kayla because Kayla posted an interesting one. Our girl, Nancy Pelosi, back at it again. Kayla, what do we got? What what what did
[0:36:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: the send it.
[0:36:05] Kayla Cardillo @kaylacardillo: Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty bullish on Uber before Nancy bought it, but I also do follow Nancy very closely and try to do what she does if possible. What do you guys think about Uber?
[0:36:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: The Nancy Pelosi stock tracker is the best. It's like the copy trade of net... Like, Nancy Pelosi is, like, the the quant of the century, apparently. She's outperforming every single hedge fund, every single... I mean, you name it, she's outperforming
[0:36:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: the like, insider information. Quanta, what is within quotation.
[0:36:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: $5,000,000 position. What what did it say? $5,000,000... Well, $1,000,000 stake in Uber? Goddamn. She's putting her money where her mouth is. And a $5,000,000 position up to 5... INTC calls up to 5,000,000, but god damn.
[0:36:52] Moni @monitalan: There she
[0:36:52] Ryan @Rlad1776: got Vistra Energy, which is one that has just been shopping forever, and that is gonna blow up. She's also got Tempest AI.
[0:37:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Ryan, didn't Trump also mention two new ones today? He he also... He threw Eli Lilly
[0:37:07] Ryan @Rlad1776: into into He did.
[0:37:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: The other one?
[0:37:09] Ryan @Rlad1776: Eli Lilly and... Well, Nokia was yesterday.
[0:37:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Lilly
[0:37:16] Ryan @Rlad1776: Lilly and... Shit.
[0:37:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We'll... Let's find it. Let's find it because those things always cook. Remember when
[0:37:23] Ryan @Rlad1776: you mentioned Micron? You guys are all over? Like, dude, just follow... Somebody... Yeah. The the Pelosi tracker put out a... They put out something a couple of days ago, and it was like, if you just bought everything Nancy Pelosi did over the last eighteen months with a $100, you'd now be at, like, $664,000.
[0:37:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's crazy. Crazy. Crazy.
[0:37:52] Kayla Cardillo @kaylacardillo: I wonder what do
[0:37:53] Kayla Cardillo @kaylacardillo: you guys think, like, is going on with Uber because I have had some, like, bullish signals in other locations as well, like, Telegram chats and stuff like that in Uber.
[0:38:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is this is the beauty of following the Nancy Pelosi tracker is she's the insider. She doesn't put her money... And she doesn't lose. Right? Like, why would Nancy Pelosi ever lose? So we follow Nancy, and Nancy we trust.
[0:38:14] Kayla Cardillo @kaylacardillo: You think it's like a robotics play or, like, what's going on with Uber and the piece?
[0:38:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. We... It... This is information that nobody's gonna be privy to until six months down the road, and then you're gonna realize, like, oh, shit. Nancy was, like, on the committee. You know what I mean? So I don't know. I mean, what... That's self driving. No? Isn't isn't Uber going full self driving?
[0:38:33] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. So that's... Like, if you didn't get into Uber, that's the play is Lucid. And Nat's been on this for a while because they basically have taken about a 20% stake in Lucid, and they are going to be using all of, like like, when they go full self driving for their taxis to compete with Elon, they're gonna be using the Lucid car.
[0:39:00] Bread @_ToastMalone: So the whispers in the dev channels, are that Uber is because they're gonna have their drivers have, like, cameras anyway, front facing cameras, and they're gonna be using that data to train self driving vehicles. And because they have one of the largest networks of, like, private drivers, like, on back roads and all of these different things, you know, that they're gonna monetize the data by selling it to robotics companies.
[0:39:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's deepened without being deepened.
[0:39:27] Bread @_ToastMalone: Exactly. It's deepened for Fiat. It's cool.
[0:39:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. It's fiat deepened. What happens if
[0:39:32] Kayla Cardillo @kaylacardillo: you have a Tesla and you drive for Uber?
[0:39:36] Bread @_ToastMalone: Well, I bet you get, like, bonus points. I don't know. You probably... Like, your wall score, I think, increases or something.
[0:39:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Is is that, like, the Marvel points? Do I do I get to go to Tesla and
[0:39:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're gonna be allowed to literally send your Tesla out at nighttime when you're sleeping to, like, go drive Uber for you and come back and literally be a second income. Elon literally said this. This is gonna be a thing.
[0:39:54] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. But that insurance should be cheap.
[0:39:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's gonna be where they get you.
[0:39:59] Bread @_ToastMalone: You're gonna wake up with homeless people in your Tesla almost every day.
[0:40:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, maybe this is where they finally come out with an old auto reject seat. You know what I mean? You know, like like No. The... Fighter pilot.
[0:40:11] Ryan @Rlad1776: The next version of the Tesla is gonna have an internal car wash, that automatically goes off after every drive. You know, like...
[0:40:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that will piss me off after I do my hair. Can you imagine blow drying your hair? Monica, can you guys imagine after blow drying your hair going through all of that and then the sprinklers are not in the car? That would not work for me. Shard it.
[0:40:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know what I've... You know what I was just thinking for both Uber and Wendy's? They should both just sign letters of intent that they're gonna buy a bunch of GPUs from NVIDIA and just watch things rocket.
[0:40:46] Bread @_ToastMalone: They should start a new line....
[0:40:47] Moni @monitalan: Question. So is Lucid a better play than Uber?
[0:40:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it And why? Natalie?
[0:40:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So Lucid has had some trouble. Right? So in terms of which company is the strongest, it's Uber. But in terms of potential, Lucid. But there is
[0:41:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: nothing around. Where are gonna make the most money?
[0:41:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: It depends on what you're looking for.
[0:41:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: High risk, lucid is trash, and it is in a constant downtrend.
[0:41:25] Moni @monitalan: It
[0:41:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: is. But at some point, it will go up Yeah. Before it goes down again.
[0:41:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: If... You know what? If they don't turn it around, that's why the potential, the risk is there. So when prices are low, it's for a reason. Right? Means there's there's risk associated with it. But if you're one that have done your own due diligence and you come to the conclusion that Lucid is a risk that you're willing to take, then by all means. But as far as as of right now, which company is the strongest? It's Uber.
[0:42:01] Moni @monitalan: So just asking because didn't somebody just say that the reason is because Uber is investing? That's where I was asking.
[0:42:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, there's there's... There are some talks and connections that are there. Has there been any filings, though, Not... I don't think there's been anything.
[0:42:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not as of recently. No. But I
[0:42:18] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: can double check.
[0:42:19] Ryan @Rlad1776: Taking stake in Lucid? Yeah. Yeah. They're a while ago, but they're
[0:42:24] Moni @monitalan: out there. Yeah.
[0:42:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. There were a while ago, but recent filings. I haven't seen. Yeah.
[0:42:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. New. So so one of the things that you gotta think about, like, for anybody asking is, like, hey. Say you're single and you're going out on a date, and the person... You know, you're you're getting along really well. You're like, wow. I can really see potential in you. You're just... You know, you're having a bad time in life right now. And you're like, look, Lucid. I really like you. Would you like to come home with me? And they're like, well, I have to tell you something. I've got herpes. I've got herpes. Alright? Jesus. And crabs. Oh, god. Well, that's okay. I have I have some risk protection in my pocket, and you pull out a condom. And you're like, this will protect me. That is essentially what you have to do is you have to take that risk and put on your market condom and go, I'm gonna go in for Lucid right now.
[0:43:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, to any potential sponsors, listen to this stage, you can just scroll by this section. Go
[0:43:23] Ryan @Rlad1776: ahead, Landy. Dating advice... This is a show, Landy. Dating advice from a puppet. Like, this is a show.
[0:43:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Look. As a puppet that... Look. I'm a hand puppet specifically. So, you know, I have to take the risk that the puppet master has washed their hands. Right? That is a that is a known risk. Just know the risk if you're gonna go and take a swing at Lucid. Alright? She might have a fat butt. Alright? She might be good looking today. And you're like, wow. I finally saw a Lucid on the road. Wow. That's out in the wild. It was outside of a city. It was in a rural area, and there wasn't even charging stations around. You're like, this is this could work. I could see a future here. You just have to know the risk. Just be careful. Because if you get trapped with that lucid, you might get trapped with five different stock splits all the way down below 50¢.
[0:44:17] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. Which is... That... That's the problem with them. Right? Dilution, reverse splits, you know, rinse and repeat. I mean, honestly, if if you wanna play that game, just wait until Tesla gets $3.40, which it's going to, and that will be your reward. Because
[0:44:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, I thought you were gonna say, before you said price goes up and then back down. I was on the desk when Lucent went bankrupt. These companies go bankrupt. They reorganize. They go bankrupt. They reorganize. They go bankrupt. They get Delta. Like, they all do the same crap. Who's left holding the bag? You, the common shareholders. Retail. Yeah. The advice that Nat was giving you. Right? Like, depending on risk appetite, like, yeah, there could be higher upside, but it's also... It also comes with more risk. So be smart, degenerates.
[0:45:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: Be smart.
[0:45:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Lucid lucid is like, you know, on the crazy hot scale. You're like, oh, wow. You know? Like, she's a 10, but she's she's kind of insane. Right? So... But on the crazy hot matrix, it's like Lucid is a one, but also insane. And you're like, I'm just desperate. And and then you're like, they they can turn their lives around if they just do a few things here that they could become a 10, but still crazy.
[0:45:30] Moni @monitalan: Lucid has made......
[0:45:31] Ryan @Rlad1776: 20,000,000,020 billion in dark pool prints on ESPY right now.
[0:45:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Amazing. But Lucid has made some good trades.
[0:45:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Speak English.
[0:45:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Like, no. No. I'm I'm serious. Like, we don't have, like, a trading native on... This is in the Bitcoin space. So, like, if you're gonna chat me with it, like, just give us a little context.
[0:45:51] Ryan @Rlad1776: You okay to talk a bill?
[0:45:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Right. You wanna... So dark tool is usually a transaction that's done off market, depending on where it was done. Sometimes you see the prices react positively towards it. There was one instant in which there was a dark pool to a transaction done off market in Apple that turned out to be a massive short, and Apple went down to new lows. But I don't think being that we are incur... Being where the SPY is currently at, I would be surprised if that's a short.
[0:46:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Here's the most recent article.
[0:46:31] Ryan @Rlad1776: OTC. Yeah. Yeah. It's OTC desk, Dave, so that it doesn't move the market.
[0:46:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Correct. Yeah.
[0:46:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Essentially, we're institute... I mean, I know what dark pools are, but, like... Yeah. Like, we're Alright. Well, yeah. Get your attention to go too high.
[0:46:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. To, like, off mark.
[0:46:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Can I give a recent example for people? We saw the dark pool transaction on iBit. It was $1,200,000,000. And then even though it's OTC, they still have to process the redemptions if the other party does... Is not going to keep... And and if that's gonna satisfy debt. Like, somebody obviously blew up something somewhere along the way, so they were like, we gotta move this $1,200,000,000 worth of iBit shares. And then the AP has to... Even though it's OTC, to have the least... To have the most minimal immediate impact on the market, what did they do? You saw a literal fifteen days of of outflows from the AP because they were doing redemptions of those shares. So it just took them time to do redemptions. Sometimes, though, you can see that that can get transferred over to somebody that's not going to do a redemption or not going to take... You know? So it it really depends on the situation. And I think that trying to read the tea leaves there, it it... It's interesting from a logical point of view, but what was king right there when that happened was somebody was obviously gonna blow up if it went... If Bitcoin went down further. So they ended up going through and and getting rid of that right when Bitcoin was starting to lose its structure after hitting the big monthly overhead. And then, of course, Sailor and the 32 Bitcoin coin thing gets blamed for everything. Meanwhile, there was this big redemption transaction that was happening out of the AP private. So, you know, it can... It cuts both ways. Yep. I think that if you're gonna look at it from from the perspective of this is definitely something big going on, you just pay attention to where's support, where's resistance. If one breaks, you know, we're we're gonna go down. If the other breaks, we're gonna go up.
[0:48:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. Cool. Okay. I I want us to talk about... I wanna shift and talk about this prediction market fake accounts because today, one of them actually hit home. Right? Like, I follow this girl, Kate. I think a lot of us follow Kate. She's got a polymarket badge. Can we talk about, like, this... Is this normal business practice, right, like, for create... Or for brand... Like, a a brand like Polymarket to go out and be like, hey. You can literally just print any slip that you want on a fake demo site, and we're good with it. Right? So it looks like the creator with the badge is out there betting $10 on a Ronaldo bet. Meanwhile, like, she got no fucking... She got zero skin in the game. She got, like, $5 or something. Like, she can't afford that money. You ain't that rich. You don't got that money in your Polymarket account. She's literally just typing freaking numbers into, like, a demo website that is allowing her to essentially do this. And to me, that's that's crazy. But, also, like, my business mind is like, it doesn't surprise me. It's kinda par for the course, I would say. I guess you... A little crime somewhere. But, yeah, Brett, talk to me, bro.
[0:49:56] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah, dude. I mean, have you seen the slips for rainbet, you know, .com and BC game and Toshi and... You know what I mean? Like, they will sometimes... Like, I know for a fact, like, Toshi will sometimes give, like, the his... You know, the people that work with him for him doing the promotions and things like that. He gives them, like, an actual stipend. You know, like, how that's spread across, what wins led to what, you know, maybe. Who knows? Whatever. But, like, rainbet for sure, dude. Like, those are, like, the people that I see posting slips, it's like, you don't have $10 or just put it around.
[0:50:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't know shit from shit. Okay? Playmate Jaylene doesn't know shit from shit about the freaking Knicks game all the way in New Zealand. I don't wanna hear... Like, stop it.
[0:50:39] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Exactly. You know? So, like, it doesn't surprise me that there's, like, places to print slips. You know what I mean? And I bet you, like, realistically, it probably says somewhere, like, in the agreement, like, you have to make sure, like, you can use this site to print slips across any social media platform. Right? This is something Polymarket probably provides via Telegram bot or a separate back channel website or Discord Discord server, whatever. Right? And they have to be accurate or blah blah blah. Like, you better make sure they're accurate because we'll check. You know? And then they're not they're not checking, bro. They don't really actually care. You know? But they're covering their own ass on those ends to be like, oh, what? We thought that, like, those were real. Our bad. Whatever. You know? Like, and it'll go away. All they have do is leak an AirDrop announcement again, and all of it will go away.
[0:51:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Shaq, see, go ahead. And then we'll go to Landy.
[0:51:31] Shaksi @shaksi: Shaq. Yeah. To be honest, like... Yep. Yeah. Can you
[0:51:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: hear me? We got you, bro. Go ahead. You should be able to hear me. Oh, for fuck. No way am I dealing with this lag. No way. You gotta come back. Couple do do a lap. Come back up. Yeah. Massive lag. Shout out to my man, Millie. It's good to see you, bro. Landy, go ahead, bro.
[0:51:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I can't talk too much about this subject, but what I can say is there's never been... In my personal experience, there's never been anyone that has approached and said, like, hey. Do this to do this, and then you... You know, for for advertisement purposes. Nothing of this sort in terms of what we've seen from some of these folks. That is also to say that the... That websites with demo accounts and demo accounts and paper accounts not being disclosed, very, very popular in sports betting and perps trading from exchanges and KOL stuff. It is the number one marketing tool. Right? In fact, if you go and you look at all of the various sports betting platforms that are not on chain, you'll also note that for many years that many of the partners that were advertising with them were also doing the same thing with fake websites, demo accounts, paper accounts, whatever you wanna call them, whatever they're termed by that particular company. They always have something in there for practicing and then not disclose... The the the problem is not disclose... Is the disclosure portion. Right? So I... I'm I'm just as curious as everybody else here seeing as there is some connections there that... Of of how this has come about. If it's, like, one of those things of, like, management knows but looks the other way, if it's a smaller team that's in control of something that is that is doing this and has perpetuated this and allowed it to happen... Because it's not like the top level people haven't seen it. And, also, they're not the only ones doing it, if that's the case. Everyone is doing it. In fact, paper gains, paper plays in any market are one of the best tools. Just look at how much they made. Look at how much they put down on this thing. I should go follow them in. It's all human psychology stuff, and this has been going on for a very long time. So I'm curious as to what it is that you all have found thus far and what your thoughts on it more than anything else.
[0:54:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. You ready? I got you. Hold on. I'm literally on Kate's profile now. Somebody actually called her out because she put a bet on last night's game for Ronaldo not to score. She said that she put 10 k, Ronaldo... I'm sorry. Ronaldo under one and a half. 10 k to win thirteen seven six five. Okay? She writes this didn't age well. Hold on. I'm gonna pin it to the top so you guys can see. And then we're gonna we're gonna go through this, somebody calling her out, and then we're gonna go to what her most recent slip is. Right? Yesterday, she was confident as hell that Ronaldo, of all people, was not gonna score one and a half goals. But today today, her bet was a measly... How... $105. She went 10,000 to a $105. I mean all she can do is follow-up
[0:55:10] Shaksi @shaksi: this year.
[0:55:11] Ryan @Rlad1776: Well, that happens when you're wrong.
[0:55:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're wrong. That's what happens when you got a... You got carte blanche to literally create, like, whatever picture you want and sell it to the market. It's like this is... Okay. Wait. So hold on one sec.
[0:55:23] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. Or her risk management is dog shit.
[0:55:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Risk... What risk management, bro?
[0:55:28] Bread @_ToastMalone: Stop. Bankroll management, dog. Like, that's, like like, more... I'd say, like, 70% of sports betting is bankroll.
[0:55:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: You need a bankroll to bankroll manage, number one. Let's let's be clear on that.
[0:55:37] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. But if she blew her load on one bet, like, that's poor management.
[0:55:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Okay. Wait. So hold on. Let me see. Where is this guy? Where did he cook her? Can't win them all. Where where is the one that he... Because, like, bro, like, this is also engagement hack one zero one when you think about it, guys. You know what I'm saying? Massive... Like, she gets 300,000 views on these slips. These slips cook on the timeline. You guys see when Coma post, like, some of his bigger wins. Right? 15, 20,000. Like, that's the stuff that's cooking on the timeline. People wanna see you either win big or lose big. It's genuinely how it goes. That's human nature, like you were saying, bro. That's what it is. Love that Millie came up. Millie, what's good, bro?
[0:56:20] Milo @0dteSPY: Good to see you.
[0:56:21] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: Hey. Yo. What's up, everyone? Yeah. This topic pisses me off because I wish I had a rain bet thing, which I don't. I'm a piece of shit. If I had it, I would be... I'd have nothing against it, but the amount of people we follow, you know, me... Dave, me, and you, none of these motherfuckers know anything about anything to do with sports. That's what pisses me off. Like, one girl yesterday, she put on, I'm choosing this team because Qatar has never won a World Cup. I'm like, yeah. Most teams in... Have never won a World Cup. Like, do you know how hard it is to win? So I'm like, I'm thinking they gotta get, like, slips they're getting sent to just, like, post because the engagement is so crazy. And, I I tagged you and and, Brett, I don't know if you saw in the cabal, but I was watching the Coffeezilla today, and he's like, he found there... I guess someone snitched. There was a site that said poi... Poi market. So poly, but with a I. But if you capitalize the I, it looks like poly market. So a bunch of TikTok influencers were saying, oh my god. Look what I'm putting on five k for this. But when you look at the URL, it'd say polymarket.com. So you're like, oh, shit. They're really betting that. Found out it was a capitalized, I, letter letter I. So it looks like it says polymarket, but it wasn't. It was a dummy site.
[0:57:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Were they still getting paid by Polymarket? Did they say?
[0:57:43] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: Yeah. These were these were
[0:57:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Polymarket creators.
[0:57:46] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. There's a there's a big expose. So I guess Zilla's after them now. So... And then, you know, they're not touching anything. He keeps, like, even tweeting at them. They're not they're not touching his tweets. So there... There's... At least there's smoke there. Yeah. But but I I I figured it out because I'm watching the NBA playoffs, and I'm looking at these slips that are coming out. I'm like, k. This girl's in the Ukraine. This girl's in Mexico. What the fuck do you know? And and I'm not saying girls can't know. I'm only saying from what they're tweeting, it's crazy. They're like, LeBron is 41. There's no way he can win today. I'm like, what
[0:58:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: the fuck is going on, bro? Bro, and if you notice too, Millie, the slips, especially from Rainbet, all the girls post the same ones.
[0:58:32] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: Yeah. Yeah. You suck. And I feel like I hate her because send me the slip. I'll post it because I haven't been... These motherfuckers are getting $510 a month, bro.
[0:58:40] Moni @monitalan: That's what I'm
[0:58:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: saying. Yo. QZino, I know you're at wall chain, but I'm no longer at wall chain. I'm an independent I'm independent now, baby. Come on. I need a badge out here.
[0:58:48] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: Well, actually, one girl we know, Dave, unless she's capping, she said she's getting, well, $4... Four bands a month for BC game.
[0:58:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Bro. One degen bet, and they play... They pay the whole slate of creators off, like, one degenerate's loss. You know what I mean? So, yeah, that's... Yeah. Where the casino money at?
[0:59:06] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: You know what fucking believe it either. Yeah.
[0:59:07] Moni @monitalan: Wait. You're selling
[0:59:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: for what? You literal...
[0:59:10] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: $44,000 for BC game, that casino
[0:59:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Casino sites.
[0:59:14] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: To post slips and fucking selfies and shit.
[0:59:18] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. I'm gonna say, like, take
[0:59:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: a seat. I know
[0:59:20] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: her personally. She does not watch any sports.
[0:59:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Like, literally none. Zero.
[0:59:26] Ryan @Rlad1776: We actually... We literally live in a world of vaporware. Like, everything is fucking vaporware.
[0:59:33] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yo. Let's build a casino, bro. I mean, we
[0:59:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: also voluntarily choose to show up to this place where you create money out of thin air and say, this is the future of money. You know what I mean? So that.
[0:59:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: The future of money is creating all things casinos and then just creating a casino of casinos. And that's... I mean, if we have the dev talent, we have the KOLs. Like, let's
[0:59:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: just do this. What chain? The future of
[1:00:00] Bread @_ToastMalone: payments is Pokemon cards, apparently.
[1:00:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. By the way Holy shit. By the way
[1:00:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: some tax.
[1:00:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is... Hey, Shakti, I'm coming to you. Sorry. I'm coming right now. That's what you get for fudge That's on your Starlink. Right? Like, don't cheap out on the Starlink. Tater has literally seen an explosion of volume, you know what, from ripping packs. You guys know Beezy, Collector Crypt, bro. And, Millie, obviously, you're familiar with all this stuff. Like, this pack ripping insanity, like, is not slowing down. It's only picking up. So I'm going on the sponsor hunt for, like, some of these dudes because these guys got... Like, if you look at the top performing protocols, it was Tether, Circle, freaking pump fun. Right? BZ was up there. These guys... Collector crib doing 14,000,000 a month. Like, these guys have stupid money right now. People are spending money on this shit. I guess, you know, if you can't beat them, join them. I'm now in the market for a casino badge. I've I've officially decided. Done and done. Look at my guy. Look at my guy, Ben Affleck. Look at my Ben Affleck, Nick. He's like, he needs a casino badge. He looks like he's sitting outside the casino smoking a cigarette, so let's go. Shout out to Millie for coming up. Shaqxi, what's good?
[1:01:12] Shaksi @shaksi: Yeah. All good. The dodgier they are, the more they pay, Dave. Just letting you know. With respect to the kind of the advertising side of things, for a long while, I guess, in early on, used to have these... The... What do you call it? The stars used to all talk about how they use certain products and such, and they all used to get away with it until the advertising laws... Like, they, for good few years, would get away with shit, and they were getting paid millions of dollars. So the influencer market's only learning in a cyclical way. They... Nothing happened until a few of them got their, you know, their knuckles wrapped. And I think this space is going to continue fraudulently selling things until one or two big KOLs got hit and with the... By the, is it, the FSA or the or the likes for false advertisement? And only then will things start changing. But until then, it's going to continue in the... Down this road because it makes money, and the the risk is so minimal.
[1:02:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well said, sir. Well said. Let me see what else. Moni, any other news? I feel like Meta obviously also announced they're coming out with prediction markets. I saw somebody write. When can I short there? Where can I short this?
[1:02:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. We touched on this yesterday. Thank you for for being there and paying attention. It was great.
[1:02:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: There it is. They called it. She just left left the space, said call. She's like, yeah.
[1:02:46] Moni @monitalan: Nice to be in it.
[1:02:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: My dog was like, done. No. Probably more than done. That's just... I'm bullshitting. Yeah.
[1:02:53] Moni @monitalan: Did you see the pawn job posting chief legal officer? They're paying 1 to 5,000,000 base salary. Big range there. And I guess Alan shared the the link. Anyway, I guess they may
[1:03:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: need somebody. If that's not the money, if that's not the hot seat of hot seat jobs, legal for pump fun. You're the busiest man in the company, hands down. Every idea they come out, they're like, alright. Listen. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna put bounties up and have people go out and hunt other humans down. What do you think?
[1:03:29] Bread @_ToastMalone: Yeah. It's just called the job description fall guy for pump fun.
[1:03:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, literally.
[1:03:36] Ryan @Rlad1776: So it's somebody who literally works in the legal industry.
[1:03:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why are we saying literally so much this episode? Like, we should stop.
[1:03:42] Ryan @Rlad1776: Well
[1:03:42] Moni @monitalan: It's literally me.
[1:03:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. It's me.
[1:03:44] Moni @monitalan: I literally tell
[1:03:45] Ryan @Rlad1776: I literally say that almost every sentence.
[1:03:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: It literally does.
[1:03:49] Ryan @Rlad1776: I'm not changing you. I'm not literally I'm literally changing you.
[1:03:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just for you, Dave. I'm literally going to mute every
[1:03:54] Ryan @Rlad1776: single No. But as somebody who works in the legal industry, I can tell you the death of a company begins with hiring a chief legal officer. Just FYI.
[1:04:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: It it... You guys you guys saw Wolf of Wall Street. You saw Jordan's dad going crazy. $40,000 on sides, Jordan? $40,000 on... Listen. Yes. Legal, the guy who's running the books also. You know?
[1:04:17] Ryan @Rlad1776: Bubba. They they they get paid to say no to everything. Just FYI.
[1:04:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like Brett said, chief fall guy. What else? I feel like every day I'm seeing something new on the prediction market side. But, like, there's weird shit. There's cool shit. Shit I don't understand. Why people need to, like, be able to take options or... Like, somebody asked me in the DMs, like, would you... Like, if you were to make a bet on a prediction market that didn't settle for, like, three months or the end of the year, I'm like, I wouldn't make that prediction at all. But... Okay. Would you then take a loan out on that position? Like, do you have access to that liquidity? I'm like, that sounds like it could, like, work... Like, it it... It's normal and should work. Right? Like, apply DeFi concepts here. But, Brett, like, does that work? Like A
[1:05:09] Bread @_ToastMalone: 100%. Yeah. Because you still have a strike price. Right? So, like, if it falls below a certain whatever, like, you lost your position, they sell it at the strike price to cover whatever they need to. You know? It's not like you're getting, like, a one to one loan. Like, if you're if you... If you're sitting on probably, let's just say, a $10,000 position, you might be able to, like, get a loan for maybe $5, like, maybe half, probably 4,500, you know, that you would have liquid that you could go roll over into other five minute markets and do things with probably. Right? That's kind of the the loop, I think, that people are gonna start running. But, ultimately, if that drops down, you know, to any, you know, cent, whatever it is from your entry, you know, to where, like, oh, yeah. You're at now, like, the 4,500. And so we're selling it, covering what we loaned you, and, like, you're kinda shit out of luck. Sorry. Try again later. But I think it would absolutely work.
[1:06:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's like these new... I don't even know what to call them. But, yeah. Monie, are you is this a... What's it called? A go go go
[1:06:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: go go break?
[1:06:13] Moni @monitalan: No. Actually... No. It's not. I think they're in halftime. So you asked about prediction markets. I don't know how to pronounce this, so you guys tell me if I'm saying it wrong. Cboe Cboe? Co b... C b o e. Global Markets launched their predicts, a prediction market platform offering binary yes, no contracts on whether the S and P will close above or below a set price level that launched today. And there was a prediction market that also launched on based. So...
[1:06:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think it's the CBO. We obviously like the big dog when it comes to commodities. Right? I think they're now trying to dip their toes into the water slowly slowly. I think you're seeing it now. Yes. No markets. Let's see how this works. Make sure our infrastructure is solid, like, you know, price feeds, yada yada. And then I think they're gonna be one of the... They're gonna be, like, if not the biggest dog in the yard out here because they're the CBOE.
[1:07:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. They'll dominate.
[1:07:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think this is why also, Landy, like, that the... What we're hearing now is probably what Kalshi and Polymarket were hearing months ago. So they're like, we need to speed up this IPO process because... Yeah. Like, we're gonna need... This thing is gonna grow. We're gonna have... We have mounting lawsuits in every single state. Even though Kalshi is federally regulated, like, they're pretty... They're they're okay for now. It's gonna be interesting to see how that shakes. They're gonna need money for those legal bills, baby. So... Yeah. Are we buying Calcio IPO?
[1:07:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, look. You can do you can do millions or even billions in volume, and you're still not gonna be anywhere close to daily volume on CBOE. So good luck. As soon as they start providing liquidity to those markets, then bye bye. Open that up to everybody too, by the way, because that can go across all of the different brokerage platforms immediately.
[1:08:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So quick quick heads up, Moni. I'll come back to in a second, but I just saw this update on Meta. Meta is building a prediction market. It won't use real money, and that's the whole story. Polymarket and Kalshi spent two years and millions in legal fees fighting to call themselves markets instead of gambling. Kentucky just sued them. 11 states issued cease and desist. The CFTC is drafting rules to ban half their contracts. Meta looked at all of that and built the version with no money in it. Arena, it's points below.
[1:08:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: A gaming point. Yeah.
[1:08:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Points this yesterday.
[1:08:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You Alright. I got it. Know.
[1:08:41] Moni @monitalan: I know. Yesterday. Video
[1:08:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: game style, no cash wagers at launch, 3,560,000,000 using meta app every day. What are they gonna try and candy crush this
[1:08:50] Bread @_ToastMalone: thing and just, like It's FarmVille, bro.
[1:08:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Just use it?
[1:08:53] Bread @_ToastMalone: It's it's FarmVille. Yeah. Yeah. This is crazy.
[1:08:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. People love... People... What you gotta understand is the crowd over there is still older. They'd like... They'll take surveys and stuff. They do the little checkbox polls. Of course, they're gonna participate in this. Honestly, this might be the path out of hell for Meta. It it give... And I'm being serious because advertisers can just blanket it, and and they can be seen again. Because, realistically, you know, they... That might be the smart play. That might be the smartest thing they've done in a long time. And I know that we make fun of points and we hate points, but the... Everything's made up and points don't matter crowd are still gonna play those games because this is just another game.
[1:09:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: But why doesn't... Like, why doesn't Zuck sit down like he did with WhatsApp? Right? Offer them a 100 bill and just be like, be done with it. Like, stay private. Let's get this thing cooking right now. Like, bust out your truck,
[1:09:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: You missed the the alpha that Landy shared yesterday where I believe he was able to gather up a whole bunch of Marlboro points, and they got, like, a Marlboro cart in the house or something like that. It was amazing.
[1:10:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: We have a we have a golf cart in the family. It's in the family. This is from a long, long time ago. We actually have a Marlboro golf cart.
[1:10:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. What
[1:10:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's the... From Marlboro from Marlboro Points.
[1:10:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: What what... Oh, Marlboro. And what the hell does that have to with this? Just because meta points?
[1:10:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, because Oh, I can incentivize
[1:10:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Marlboro points when you were taking them off the boxes to buy random shit. We Marlboro on it.
[1:10:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Well, yeah, but you could get Marlboro gear branded stuff. Right? And and Brad was bringing up Pepsi points, and we were talking about the different points.
[1:10:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fighter jet.
[1:10:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. The fighter jet came up. Yes.
[1:10:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:10:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: So... But I I honestly did to kind of, like... What you gotta understand is they're... By them sidestepping all of this, they can actually pull people in. Right? It's like a meme coins to bit... Bitcoin. Right? Like, you get wrecked the meme coins enough, and you just finally capitulate and buy some Bitcoin. It's like, hey. I'm I'm over here. I'm I'm already used to these yes, no markets over here where I'm just playing points. Oh, there's platforms where I can go. It will be the intro, but the way that they can monetize it is through advertising so they can literally just get people hooked. I... We're headed towards a really best up world, by the way, with all of this.
[1:11:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, by the way, I I I I did the math or I discovered the math on the hydration breaks that we were talking about yesterday. $250,000,000 for a two, three minute hydration breaks is what they'll... Is what FIFA will make, and they're gonna probably scale... It'll probably be, like, an additional $1,000,000,000 by the
[1:11:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: time it's said
[1:11:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: and done. Crazy.
[1:11:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: So during the hydration breaks, they do cut to commercials. Right? And we see the pop So
[1:11:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: they do, but with Fox. Okay. Yeah. So what... Now what Fox said was they got a shit ton of backlash from a lot of the fans. So what they started doing is they started doing split screen ad on one side Wow. And then showing the teams and the hydration break on the other side to a piece. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.
[1:12:01] Shaksi @shaksi: Know that most of the ads are in the American channels. A lot of the public channels don't do much ads. Well, a lot of the most channels, even the paid ones in The UK Shout
[1:12:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: out to Elamundo because
[1:12:14] Shaksi @shaksi: I'm with you, Jaxi. Advertisements because that's just the norm.
[1:12:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mean you guys don't get Ozempic ads during the game? Covers. Jaxi, you don't get you don't get Ozempic ads during the game?
[1:12:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. What about Zepbound? No. Mounjaro? Nothing?
[1:12:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I do have to say those ads have been very highly targeted towards the American audience. So
[1:12:44] Bread @_ToastMalone: Oh, yeah. But starting next year, they're... Didn't we get rid of them? Doesn't... Didn't Trump pass something or or or MAHA people or something passed something?
[1:12:52] Moni @monitalan: For
[1:12:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: for the ads, yeah, but you're probably gonna see that new one, that new cross GLP, whatever the one that they tried to
[1:13:01] Bread @_ToastMalone: Eli Lilly retro the the Tide ads instead.
[1:13:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It...
[1:13:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's the one with three.
[1:13:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That... I bet you that one will skirt the entire infrastructure that that they're pushing for for... Out of Robert f Kennedy junior's office.
[1:13:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Do you guys wanna... I'm I'm I'm a I'm a put you guys on some game right now. Okay? So on a wall train a quack stream that I did a a couple weeks back, this was right at the start of the NBA finals. We had, the founder of this company called Profit Market AI. Right? And the gist of what they do is you can literally go... You as a user, right, can go sign up. They give you a free $5. Right? And you can create whatever market you'd like. Right? Whatever... You can literally create whatever market, whatever prediction market you like. Their whole thing is they have... They've essentially worked six different LLMs, to essentially be the book of the odds makers. Right? So I tested this out. I went on to the site while we were live on the stream. I'm gonna post out the clip after the show. Went... I was live on the stream. I said, okay. I could just create anything. And they said, yeah. I said, will Jaylen Brunson be finals m... Be the finals MVP? And literally, maybe thirty to forty five seconds later, came back, gave me the odds. And here's the craziest part. Right? If I... Like, I take the yes, it automatically takes the other side. 100%. Now I only did this with $3 and 8... Whatever it was, 87¢, and I won $8. Right? But when you really think about that and granted I couldn't, essentially, like, I couldn't add more money. Right? Like, there's the... Where's the liquidity coming from? Right? They don't got millions of dollars on profit AI... You know, profit market AI. Point being is there's opportunities here to just go out. Like, these companies just want you to create markets. Right? Like, they want users to come to their platform about anything that you talk about and just start creating markets. Because the more markets you have on a platform, the more selection, the more people wanna come. And who knows? Maybe you find a specific niche. We talked about Pokemon. Right? So my point here is, yes, it's a little bit of a flex. Not a called it. Nailed it on my Jalen Brunson finals MVP. Thank you very much. But it was from a market that I had created, which was even crazier. So I won off of a a prediction market that I created, and AI took the other side, and I beat the AI. Sucker. With me? With me. Alright. This was a good talk.
[1:15:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: That... Yeah. That was amazing, Dave. Thank you so much for letting us know. I do have something I wanna share with you in the back channel also. So when you can just take a look.
[1:16:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, look at my face right now, Natalie. Now that
[1:16:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I will share it once you're not stressed out. Okay? So just let me know when you're not stressed out.
[1:16:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. That's that's fair. You can't see the cigarette in the... What's it called? Because I didn't want it to be too... You know what I mean? Like, people could just see the frustration. They don't need to see the cigarette in my hand. They don't need to visualize that.
[1:16:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know, in in my opinion, you know what works really well for stress? An intense workout session. Just, like, sweat it out. Leave it on.
[1:16:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. But you also told me to buy a corset and, like, be a chick and wear it, like, sweat it out.
[1:16:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. You can't go wrong with the little part. I'm just saying it.
[1:16:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Next thing you know, you're ask me to wear Spanx. Natalie.
[1:16:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Who did say that for men,
[1:16:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: it's all the gonna go on the other
[1:16:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is going on? Like, you guys are literally dead today. Like, alright. It's fine.
[1:16:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: You guys are lazy. We're fucking lazy. Here's here's thought that Nat was gonna be talking some crazy stuff when she was like, here's what you need to do for sure. And I was like, woah. Woah. This is new from Nat. But then she was like, oh, you know, just go and take a poo or something. No. Right? And it's like, oh, okay.
[1:17:08] Moni @monitalan: I just,
[1:17:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: go and take a poo or something? Yeah.
[1:17:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: I didn't... I don't wanna get
[1:17:12] Moni @monitalan: fired. Pill.
[1:17:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, a pill.
[1:17:13] Moni @monitalan: Oh, I... I'm not poo.
[1:17:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm not poo. It's a poo. No. A poo pill. That's where you stick something up your butt that helps you go poop. So here's what you really need to do. Right? If you're really, really stressed out, you just need to go and watch the Bitcoin chart for a little while. If your bullet doesn't stress
[1:17:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: you the
[1:17:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: head out, you stressed that time. Die.
[1:17:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. You just... You zoom in real close, like, on the low time frames, and you just watch the candles.
[1:17:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's true.
[1:17:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then for all of the red candles, you recolor them. You open up the little dialogue box, and you make red green and green red, and then you'll be happy again.
[1:17:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: I... This was meant to help you, Dave. I'm sorry if the puppy just made it worse. I apologize.
[1:17:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm not on his behalf.
[1:18:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm not here to help.
[1:18:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. So
[1:18:04] Moni @monitalan: Talk about Micron. I know that we have to go, but I was curious. Earnings today.
[1:18:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Big earnings. Right?
[1:18:10] Moni @monitalan: But... Yeah.
[1:18:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So Mike want actually called it. Okay. He doesn't wanna say it, so I'll say it for him. He did say that we were on a space earlier today. He said Micron has earnings today. They beat, it's gonna be a great day for the markets. And so far, if they did beat and the markets are up nicely, but we do have to see the opening as a lot can happen overnight.
[1:18:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Update from the games. Still halftime. Brazil has not been abducted as of yet. There's still another
[1:18:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: No aliens yet? They... No.
[1:18:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:18:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: What a week. How badly did Canada lose?
[1:18:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I don't actually... Hold on. I'll tell you... I don't even know what the score the Canada game was.
[1:18:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Landy, how how how does Canada call soccer again for football?
[1:18:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh oh, you're talking about Canadian grass hockey?
[1:19:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Is that a real thing?
[1:19:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. Canadian grass hockey, otherwise known as stuccaro.
[1:19:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? He's just making shit out like dad making stuff up now? No. Oh my god. He feel like Haiti was playing Morocco. Yo. F the Haitians.
[1:19:19] Moni @monitalan: Sorry. You were cheering for Haiti? F the Haitians, bro.
[1:19:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. I didn't realize this, my goodness.
[1:19:24] Moni @monitalan: Sorry. Tied. Right? Tutu. They're tied to... Right?
[1:19:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Tied tutu at halftime.
[1:19:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: To the Haitians listening to my Haiti friends, he's talking about the game, not the culture in particular. K? Because we love everybody.
[1:19:35] Milo @0dteSPY: Okay? Right.
[1:19:36] Moni @monitalan: Canada lost one to two to Switzerland, but that... They do pass to the next phase.
[1:19:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Oh, yeah. Because it's the top third place teams because they have a dub under their belt. Too many, yeah, too many l's and and tie games will not do it for you.
[1:19:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, man.
[1:19:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Be interesting.
[1:19:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: This Bitcoin liquidity that I'm looking at, it looks rough. There's more buildup. That's a leak. Sorry.
[1:19:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: We don't wanna end the show like this. We do not... We don't wanna end the show on a high note. Okay?
[1:20:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, if you if you live in New York, you could just go to the dispensary. You can end every show on a high note.
[1:20:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Wait, Landy. What were you saying to me in the DMs about primary? My bad. I didn't get back to you. But, like,
[1:20:15] Milo @0dteSPY: what what...
[1:20:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, is it something we should keep in the DMs? Yeah. Okay.
[1:20:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, look look. All you gotta do is just understand that there was a bunch of primaries yesterday, and and go and look at what happened.
[1:20:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: K. Fair enough.
[1:20:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I
[1:20:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: saw I saw mamdani mourning a terrorist today. I was just like, this is some wild shit. I don't even know what that happened.
[1:20:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, he must be he he must be the most manic depressive person on the planet because yesterday, he was happy as hell.
[1:20:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You gotta be a little bit crazy, a little bit bipolar to be in politics anyway. Although I gotta be honest, one of my favorite clips of the week was watching AOC in front of the banks, and she was like, so how much of the PPP loans have been forgiven by Bank of America in whole or in part? And they were, like, 95% of them in whole. All... Almost all. And she was like, oh. You know... She was like... Yeah.
[1:21:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Sorry, Dave. Go ahead.
[1:21:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead, Nat. Go
[1:21:15] Moni @monitalan: for it.
[1:21:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: That reminds me, and we we may have to bring this up on our list because I know you have to go, David. But there has been a big, big crackdown on Medicaid products. Are you guys keeping up with the stories? Like, literally, this one woman Yes. She billed, I believe, it's, like, so much money in in Medicaid that she she billed her own hotel. I think it was, like, in The Philippines. It's it's wild. And this doctor built, like, 3,000,000,000 to Medicaid, and he bought himself a private jet, and he and he bought a whole bunch of diamonds on. But, like, this story is in
[1:21:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: There's no limit to the greed, Nat. And if you see... And this is why I love the whole Nick Shirley, Lering Center, Minnesota thing because he spurred all these, like, citizen journalists to now, like, go out there and start investigating. In California, it's the craziest. There's, like, 50 or a 100 of them within, like, a two mile radius. The majority of them literally empty, but, like, this is this this... Like, this is a problem. Right? Like, the... Like, greed has no bounds. There's no limit to someone's greed. If you let somebody get away with a billion, 2,000,000,003... They will literally take you for that much money. Right? They... There's no though. Yeah.
[1:22:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: It gets worse. So the meta... What we're finding now is somebody just got picked up for 29,000,000 in hospice fraud in California. There was two other cases. But FBI has been arresting people pretty consistently in the past couple of weeks. Here's the crazy part. Some of these people are directly linked to major politicians and political campaigns, which means that a lot of these were nothing more than money laundering operations right back into these same things. And then the one guy with the $1,500,000,000 in medic... Medicare fraud, $2,000,000,000 in Medicare fraud is 1,300,000,000 in one person. One guy, and they found him over, where did they find him at?
[1:23:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: It was over... It it was overseas from what I remember.
[1:23:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: He he escaped the country. Like, because he knew that he was being tracked, but he escaped the country, and they just brought him back and extradited him back into the country. But it was, like, $1,500,000,000 in medic... In Medicare fraud.
[1:23:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's insane. Like, he literally... Yeah. He bought a whole bunch of diamonds, bought a private jet, and the... You're absolutely right. The FBI has been cracking down on this in in a very powerful way, and kudos to the FBI. Right? They're not letting people get get away with this anymore, but the stories have been insane. And there have been a few that have been doing fraud in the back end, and they come up on Instagram as, like, social media influencers. Here's what I did. Sign up for my back page. So you too can be a billionaire. Man. Wow.
[1:24:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's a... There was... In my neighborhood, there was a guy picked up about a week and a half ago. He had... I don't know if it was hospice, but he got picked up by the FBI for something. We were reading locally that it was somewhere around $2,000,000 in fraud. So they're going after... You know, that... When you're talking about a a spread between somebody that's, like, 500 k down in San Diego to 1,500,000,000 with this guy over here, and that's just barely... They're barely even starting to pick these people up for this stuff, but they're also starting to run. So the entire, like... In Southern California, there's... Everybody knows about the hospices and the stuff that's, like, over in LA, but that's that's just barely anything. Like, that... The Nick Shirley stuff that that Dave just brought up, that's just one area in California. And there's there's Medicare. Right? And then there's Medi Cal. And one gets you qualified for the other in the state of California, and Medi Cal has its own slush fund that is federally separated. So they take, you know, California's tax dollars for a portion of that program, and their people were double dipping across both programs here and offering those services. And I crashed out about some some stuff the... A couple weeks ago with with these medical companies that are basically BS that somehow get on these lists for the national, you know, like, whether it's autism special needs or elderly care, and, like, they offer products. And in many cases, they are not actually legitimate. But a lot of these organizations don't even know because they come through these nationalized systems as approved. Nonprofit organizations recommend them, and then they have these, like, really expensive products that they sell and they don't deliver and, like, all this other crap. They're gonna unravel a lot more of this. We found that there is... There's a bunch of special needs centers in California that don't actually do anything yet. They're affiliated with some of the major hospitals, and the major hospitals are the ones that are outing them now. So even, like, some of these, like, major medical facilities are like, wait a minute. We've been recommending people go there, and then we've gotten complaints in the past, but they're not... You know, they're a hospital. They're just referring. Right? They're just trying to get you the resources that you can to get to get help. And then then then the insurances and the state and everybody else works together to try to take over for these things. Right? And what a lot of them are finding out is it's not some grand conspiracy. It's that they found this lane that they can kinda operate in and and remain there because no one really checks on it. Now the hospitals are starting to to go after them and out them to the law enforcement, which I think is good. This is the best thing that could happen because there are... It it proves to me that there are people that actually do care. Yeah. It's just that they never thought they could do anything about it. Now there is something they can do, and that's out of them.
[1:27:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And that's... And what's very interesting... And I'm happy, and I'm with you. I'm glad this is happening. It's... One thing that it's doing as well in terms of, people using this to influence other people to do the same, I think, is cleaning up the space. Like, last week, what... From what I was reading, they were able to catch a lot of, Instagram influencers with some fraudulent stuff, not Medicaid, but other fraudulent stuff, that has completely opened the door. I think it had to do with, like, real estate. There was one that was that was caught doing, like, some fake real estate stuff, some fake insurance stuff. Man, this whole thing is being blown wide open, and I think it's beautiful. I I think the the space needed some cleaning, social media needs to be cleaned, and I think it's all going in the right direction in my opinion.
[1:28:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. And now as I read, the USAID story, USAID money was being laundered to George Soros to pay for protests. Mike Benz exposes. USAID has been sending money to George Soros NGOs. He then uses the money to fund and train protesters. USAID paying for street protest handbooks to be printed. $5,000,000 to Open Society Foundation. USAID is actually funding George Soros, and Soros is passing those funds to the people on the ground. That's crazy. This is wild.
[1:28:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Brother, that's just the leftover funding that they still had. Yeah. That's that's not even that's not even, like, the total. I mean, just look at look at South America and what happened with Colombia and how the Colombian president actually came out and spoke about how Colombians didn't want USAID in their country because they just back doored in all of the garbage that ended up happening there for the past decade and a half.
[1:29:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean... But, you know, obviously, a moment of silence for the the trans mice in Argentina who didn't get to go to their parade. Alright? A little moment of silence for the trans mice. The fuck. Nothing?
[1:29:24] Omilli 🎙️💥 @OmilliTees: You guys
[1:29:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: suck me. I'm laughing. You don't see me laughing?
[1:29:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: See. I don't know. It's great.
[1:29:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Ryan. I have a smile painted on my face right there. You didn't see it?
[1:29:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I feel like if you smile, you got, like, no teeth. You got, like, weird eye. Like, you're missing teeth
[1:29:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: or Ryan did update that. Did you see the the... You should see it. Oh my god. Can you... Landy, can I send it to him, please? It's too funny.
[1:29:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: What's that? Ryan gave me teeth. So if people don't understand the lore, the lore is that the the person behind the puppet account is poor and destitute, and I lost all my teeth in a horrible boating accident.
[1:30:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I knew I saw you in the tent on Hollywood Freaking Boulevard. I knew it, bro. I knew it.
[1:30:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: I told you that we've crossed paths before. You just didn't know where. New York, Chicago. Nope. It was Hollywood. It was the jankiest of all Hollywoods, but it was Hollywood.
[1:30:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Gotta admit. Let's go. Alright. Let's go. Oh, snap. Dogs just followed me. Watch out, please.
[1:30:25] Ryan @Rlad1776: I just wanna point out. I put I put two pic... I put two pictures in the in the the pill, and I want votes on which one you like better.
[1:30:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Fair. Also, guys, my bad. I also just opened up the ATC DMs. I didn't realize that they were turned off for everyone. So, I mean, don't go crazy, but if you guys have potential sponsors or anybody that wants to give me or Nat or anybody else a badge, like, hit us up. You know what I mean? Let us know. Maybe one... You know, maybe if we get a big, big sponsor, maybe we get ATC badges, real Twitter bad. That'd be kinda cool. But we can't afford that now unless we have a sugar daddy sponsor like a puppet with a Bitcoin Burger King hat on. But we'll see. We're working on them in the background. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
[1:31:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: I just realized it does kinda look like a Burger King crowd.
[1:31:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's definitely Burger King crowd, but shout. And, guys, shout out to Galactic Federation of Finance who literally made it through the whole space without me recognizing that he was still up here. And, I mean, just for the sake of it, I have to remove him now. But if you bought that contract, godspeed. Godspeed. You say
[1:31:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: hold the end of the show?
[1:31:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You you Five
[1:31:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: five d is sent to zero.
[1:31:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. You still have a whole second half of football left to play, so you better hope some of these Scotts are literally beamed up as well as some of the Brazilians so you can cash in. Anyways, we're out. Appreciate y'all. Who's who's channel tomorrow? Obviously, because that was Wednesday, obviously. Is it
[1:31:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: me or Monie? I I didn't... We we haven't decided. I don't know if Monie
[1:32:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: was there. Collab would together, communicate because you're the admin. She's the contributor. I don't know why I couldn't make two admins, but, yeah, don't let us down, and don't don't embarrass us.
[1:32:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm... I would do... I would never embarrass.
[1:32:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: The show runs for ninety minutes. That's it. Hard stop in the sand. You're right. Right. Frolic on.
[1:32:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's Monday. It's Monday, and Dave's like, I can't I can't launch a space because landing never ended this.
[1:32:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Seriously. Thank you. Come, like, at 10PM. This is still gonna be on. Like, what are we doing? Anyways, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good stuff. We're officially out. I'm starving. I'm gonna go eat. Everybody, have a good night. Love y'all. Peace.