Whales Sweeping NFT floors and $BTC Pivotal Level

# Whales Sweeping NFT floors and $BTC Pivotal Level | 2026-08-25 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1nxnRBOqYnoxO | status: approved
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[0:00:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hello, Natalie. Hey, everybody else.
[0:00:35] Moni @monitalan: Hello, David. Hello.
[0:00:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Would you be like some Dolly Parton, you know, in memoriam of?
[0:00:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. Yes.
[0:00:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Alright. Let's do it. Let's do it.
[0:00:48] Voice M: I'm begging of you. Please don't take my man.
[0:00:58] Voice M: Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, please don't take him just because you
[0:01:32] Voice M: He talks about too in his sleep, and there's nothing I can do to keep from crying when he calls your name Jody.
[0:01:43] Voice M: Now I can easily understand how you could easily take my man, but you don't know what he means to me, Julie.
[0:01:54] Voice M: Julie, Julie, Julie, Julie, I'm begging of you. Please don't
[0:02:18] Voice M: can have your choice of men that I could never love again. He's the only one for me, Jolie.
[0:02:29] Voice M: I had to have this talk with you. My happiness depends on you and whatever you decide
[0:03:00] Voice M: care.
[0:03:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jolene.
[0:03:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Jolene.
[0:03:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Jolene. Hey, everybody. What's up? Just pour one out for Dolly Parton, one of the best ever do it out here in the country biz. Seth, do we know how she passed away, by the way, guys, or no? Like, any... Anything or no?
[0:03:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: I personally don't know. I haven't looked into it just yet, but it's it's sad, man. Dolly Dolly Parton was actually a... One of the songs that my my mom and I used to sing together even though my mom was in... English wasn't her first language, but Jolene was one that we both knew very well. So it's a sad moment for sure.
[0:03:52] Moni @monitalan: So I see here that they haven't said what, but she recently had some health struggles. So... But they haven't said what happened.
[0:04:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's... I can't do it. I can't make any... Many boob jokes. Yeah? It's too soon?
[0:04:09] Moni @monitalan: Too soon. Yes. Yeah.
[0:04:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Jason. Too soon. Okay.
[0:04:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Okay. Okay. No no boob jokes. Guys, do me a favor. Retweet this out. Where is everybody? My DMs aren't working on my on my desktop for some reason. I don't know why, but nothing's coming up. So I'm gonna share this out via here. But could we talk about this galactic gang NFT mint and then remove it from the top just in case? I don't know what's happening. It looks like mints are picking up now. You know, shout out if you minted for $12, you know, and, you know, you're selling for $15.55. Let's go on the come up. You know? But, what do we think? Do we think this thing is gonna mint out at this point? We're barely at 3,000. We're at 2,800 right now. So... Or 2,900. It's got... It's good starting to cook now.
[0:05:00] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Far far price is lower than the mint price.
[0:05:02] Moni @monitalan: I know that far... Price is lower. The the public stage just opened at 04:30. Right? So... But it is lower. The price is lower than the mint... For the public minting.
[0:05:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Right. Oh, right. It's $17 now, and you can mint five. I minted... Listen. I minted four... Oh, and where is the... Oh, okay. Got it. And right now, you could just get them on secondary for $15.67. A lot cheaper. So everybody, I guess, from the first stages is now in the second stages, but I don't think that really stops many people, if I'm being honest. Right? Like, people are still cooking this thing out here. So Yeah.
[0:05:40] Moni @monitalan: I'm still seeing people minting for point o o seven. So I don't know if you notice what the floor price is is lower.
[0:05:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. Maybe we asked DocNooNoo exactly, like, what the deal is with these mints. But, like, do we see some of the... Like, can this mint out? Because this right now looks like a very, very long shot. And then we'll go to the other hands. DocNooNoo, can it mint? Out.
[0:06:04] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I was a bit skeptical on the the supply, to be honest. I think if they had kept this as a, like, a 02/02/2022 collection, obviously, it would have been stopped by now. But the supply's a little bit big, and, obviously, you saw the fud in the comments about people just not knowing there was an existing collection, and now that's spreading. Yeah. I mean, I I don't know. If they... If they've if they've got people, like friends, then those friends would want to support and they would mint. But how many are left? 3,000, bitch?
[0:06:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Little under 2,700.
[0:06:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do have a question because I I don't understand why these collections are coming out with such big mints based on just business regular supply and demand curve. Right? Wouldn't you want your collection to be smaller versus these big 5,000 or 10,000? It'll make more sense. No?
[0:07:01] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I think what often happens is that, like... I don't know if it's, the founder or or the team or the cloud manager. You get a lot of interest in it from collab managers around the space from different groups, but they they just take that interest as guaranteed mints and hype. But they don't realize that these collab managers will apply for whitelist spots for anything. It's more like get the spots now, then see how it does, and then we'll decide if we mint or not. So they should... I guess they kind of got a lot of requests and just assumed that there was demand.
[0:07:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But that's not the case.
[0:07:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Big names too. No, DocNooNoo? Some of the real big names. Like, I mean, these projects were no, like, floppy projects. So maybe that's where we kinda fell into the, what's it called? Yeah.
[0:07:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Because even even the, the 10 k ways to die, they didn't, Alpha Gamers say that they were backed by also some big names too.
[0:07:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's still gonna die. You...
[0:07:55] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. We're going back.
[0:07:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: They've now died 20,000 ways if you're gonna keep bringing
[0:07:58] Voice L: them up. I'm just saying. Let's go
[0:08:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: to let's go to let's go
[0:08:02] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Not to not CTO that collection. She's like... Yeah.
[0:08:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I wouldn't be surprised. Like, now you're gonna CTO it? Why not? Oh, okay.
[0:08:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: The same answer. Here
[0:08:10] Voice M: we go.
[0:08:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: If I... Listen. If it were me and I were to launch a a heavenly Chanclah collection, it would probably only be 777. Okay? And it'll be $7.77.
[0:08:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, when foot... When feet collects? Like, just... What are we doing out here? But let's go to Metabees then, Moni then Milo. Go ahead, Metabees. What's up?
[0:08:34] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Let me get this out before it's too late. Top news story. Somebody admits they made a mistake and posted it on Twitter. X. That's what I think.
[0:08:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: How high are... How high is this man right now? What's going on? How many mushrooms have you eaten? Somebody made a mistake and posted it on x. Okay. Is is it more random than the than the d... Than the text messages you're sending me right now? Mine was just gonna check your DMs.
[0:09:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It was Monica. I I I... It just floored me.
[0:09:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm like,
[0:09:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: oh my gosh. Somebody's admitting it. I loved it. I How often does that happen?
[0:09:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: If I find out you're messing with me on text message, I'm gonna kill you, by the way.
[0:09:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, and, Milo, I am never doing you a favor again.
[0:09:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Milo
[0:09:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, do tell. Uh-huh. What kind of
[0:09:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: thing get back
[0:09:23] Voice M: up here.
[0:09:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, look how Milo did the dips quick. Milo, get up here, bro. Get up here.
[0:09:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: I can hear you. He's like, no. You know how he goes and says, like, one word answers.
[0:09:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, wait. Monique Monique... Oh, man. It's Rug City out here. Milo, what's up, bro?
[0:09:39] Milo @0dteSPY: So I got COVID, and it sucks.
[0:09:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, so sad. Yeah. Man, did you get vaxxed at some point? Man, this is unfortunate.
[0:09:48] Milo @0dteSPY: Anyway, I don't really care about that. Listen. 5,555 or whatever that shit was at, like, $12 apiece. You know? I think I just threw away a freaking 12 pack
[0:10:05] Moni @monitalan: Damn.
[0:10:06] Milo @0dteSPY: At $24. Ouch. It's alright. But, hey, listen. The the most important thing, right, is
[0:10:14] Voice M: Is it me?
[0:10:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: The friends you made along the way. Oh, he's got a mortgage.
[0:10:18] Milo @0dteSPY: No. I'm here. I got a phone call. Sorry. I'm just gonna finish this. He's got a mortgage, so I guess that's what it was about. That's all I'm gonna say. Anyway, life goes on.
[0:10:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it me, or did he sound like he was just... I was like, tell us about the one of ones. And he was like, they have bodies now. And I was like, oh, no. He doesn't know. Like, what's the difference from the 2021 collections? Like, they have bodies. And it's like, oh my goodness. Not... No no amount of mushrooms, ayahuasca, or chocolate, Natalie, will save save this collection, I think, at this point. But I guess here we are. Yeah. DocNooNoo, go ahead.
[0:10:53] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. I mean, the floor is currently above mint. So if you wanna jeep and and do your thing, Milo.
[0:10:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't know, Milo. I feel like I'm I'm holding out hope for these projects. Right? The clay one is my favorite one so far. I think it's very different, but I don't know. Mhmm.
[0:11:12] Voice M: I mean... You know?
[0:11:12] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I like these. And and the way they were talking, it was a gateway for you all into my world.
[0:11:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I was game for it, you know, when he was like, hey, man. Mushrooms, chocolates. Now I have a feeling that we might have been getting fed a little bit of the... You know? But if you want
[0:11:30] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: if you want mushrooms, chocolate, mhmm Enough. Just let me know.
[0:11:36] Voice M: Hit me up. Hit me up.
[0:11:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: But, like, do you guys feel like... I was like, oh, what about this? It's like, yeah. We're gonna have the world going. And it's just like, okay. Well, is there the world? At this point, I guess, maybe... Wait. Hold on. Oh my god. This is what brings Alpha Gamer here.
[0:11:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. Alpha Gamer is here. But be... Before we hand the mic to to Alpha Gamer, because him and Landy real quick, it's gonna take a minute. So before we go down that road, I think for me, the... To be completely frank with you guys, I am not with the NFT gaming. I think that is such a dud. So when he mentioned, you know, the NFTs, you can... It'll be a game, blah blah. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it does take off, but I think, like, that portion for me is, like, okay. I don't I don't I don't know how I feel about it when he said that. But everything else was kind of okay because, you know, I'm not I'm not against these projects launching... These existing projects launching on on Robinhood chain. Right? If they were existing on just eat, now they're transferring over. I don't... My... Me, personally, I don't have a problem with that. It's just, like, figuring out the utility behind it.
[0:12:38] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: No response to that. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think there's a difference here because, like, Galactic Gang's not coming out as a gaming project. It's just, like, a bonus thing for their holders to do. Like, they'd be very clear that it's about the art. So if they were pitching themselves as a gaming project, then I totally agree with you. But, yeah, it's just a side thing.
[0:13:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Noted. Noted. Thank you for clarifying, Nuno.
[0:13:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sometimes it's always when... Like, people are literally accepting $14.65 offers right now. DocNooNoo, should we be messaging Kyle and being like, yo. Consider cutting the supply or no?
[0:13:15] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: He said on the space yesterday that they will not because of the special 5555 number. And by the looks of it, like, I'm looking at the offers and whatnot, like, there are... Well, there were 11 offers at point o o six. So I think that's probably, like, someone from within the team or their friends trying to keep the floor above the mid price.
[0:13:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Because the initial the initial 300 was just the team. Right?
[0:13:42] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah.
[0:13:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And you can see that, obviously, in holders. It shows you Chris Dyer has 300 in his wallet, and the next person has 30. Somebody's, I guess, accumulating this out. Like, who's this guy? Does he have anything... Oh, he's got a bunch of stuff. Galactic gang, retail punks. Alright. Let's go to gamer. Let's see what gamer has to say about this whole... There was a collection way back when, because I don't know enough about this game. Gamer, what's up, bro? Like... And tell me about, like... Also, stop phoning... You know we're minting. Don't put us on the timeline. Put us in the chat. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't gotta put out the public timeline. Robin Hood over here. What's up, gamer? How is it in the bay?
[0:14:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hey. Look. High as hell in that photo. Oh, he results high as hell.
[0:14:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wow. Wow. Yo. What's up, everyone? It's a nice 72 degree day here in the Bay. Nice and sunny and healthy. Get your vitamin d. And...
[0:14:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Landy's distracting my ADD.
[0:14:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy's getting up right now. Stop it, puppet. Gamer, give me the insight as to what the issue is with the 2021 collection.
[0:15:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's given me 110 reasons why.
[0:15:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I swear to god. I'm gonna kill you. Stop. Like, shut shut up right now. Why can't I mute? He's a cohost now?
[0:15:08] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Really? Cinnamon Toast Crunch doesn't believe you swear, Landy.
[0:15:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop it, guys. Let Gamer speak. We need to know this, alright, before I need to sell at $15. I'd rather take a $2 profit than a $48 loss. Jesus Christ.
[0:15:22] Voice L: I'm not
[0:15:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So someone in our, community over there brought it up because we we were unaware of this also until someone brought it up, and he's like, hey. I recognize that art style. And we're like, what? What are you talking about? So... And he's and he's like, yeah. This is from, like, 2021 or 2020. And we're like we're like, okay. You know, we we kinda, like, second guessed them. Right? But then, no, sure enough, they they went and and found the... You know, found it. And we're like, holy shit. You're right. It's, like, the exact same art style and everything. Like, the only difference was, you know, this one had a body. The other one was more of a head. And then we're... And then that's where we're like, uh-oh. You know? That's kind of the the the the Scooby Doo. Uh-oh. You know?
[0:16:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: But then I'll Gamer, that's not a secret, though. He did mention this on the space yesterday. He did let it known that this is a collection from 2021.
[0:16:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. And I guess I'm... Why does it matter, Gamer, is my question. Even if they rerelease it on a new chain, like, who cares?
[0:16:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So you guys brought it up, right, about the game. Right? Is the game complete? Is it finished? Is it ready to be played? No. That's the red flag. Right? So if you've been here since 2021 and you launched this project and the total volume was $5,500,000, You had 5 years and $5,000,000.
[0:16:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. But they didn't market this as a game, bro.
[0:16:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I just
[0:16:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: wanna be clear on this. What do No.
[0:16:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. No. I I understand that. I understand But that's kinda... You know, it's kinda like, oh, you know, kinda... You know, like, I'm not I'm not trying to fight. Trust me. Like, I was act... We were all great... Getting ready to mint, actually. We were all gonna mint, and then that was brought up. And then we're kinda like, oh, like, hit the brakes real quick. You know? Like,
[0:17:13] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: oh, that's starter on the blockchain.
[0:17:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. You know? And we're just kinda like, oh, that's... That is kinda sus. You know? So so everyone kinda hit the brakes, and then people started looking into it.
[0:17:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Do you happen to know how they found that, though? Because I did I did a go... I did a galactic search, and this is one of my hates of OpenSeesh. I did a search on it, and that didn't show up. That didn't show up.
[0:17:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Meta Beast, all you have to do is click on the artist name. Right? Under where this current collection is, you just click on Chris Dyer, and it shows you all of the collections that Chris Dyer has done. And it'll be right there. 5,500,000 in volume, top offer, $22, floor price, $34. It shows you another one, like
[0:17:57] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't know the artist of every single collection. I know the collection name. I should be able to
[0:18:02] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: search it for that.
[0:18:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Literally collect Yeah.
[0:18:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But I should be
[0:18:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: But that's OpenC issue. We'll we'll talk to what's going Yeah.
[0:18:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because this was well known, like, two or three days ago.
[0:18:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah.
[0:18:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, this is not news. This is not new. I get... It's not... Look. I I I don't care. It's freaking $12. But, like, it... For, like, the... Like, oh, this is sauce and, like, that... It doesn't make any sense to me because, like, okay. So they repurposed it. They launched another chain. Okay. Cool. Like, everybody does that shit.
[0:18:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's cool, and it's cool, and I know another artist that was... That's into it. Two of them, Chaz and Miguel Amargo, and they even mentioned him.
[0:18:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Well
[0:18:46] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm I'm bullish.
[0:18:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I I don't really care one way or another. Like, it's like, okay. If you wanna mint something, you mint it. Like, if you're really in it, like, if your $12 or whatever is... Or $15 is gonna make or break you, you shouldn't be minting anything. Like, that's the same approach that I take with all of this. Like, it it it doesn't make a lot of sense to be, like, hand wringing. Like, alpha gaming, when you bring up SaaS stuff, like, bro, it's fucking $12. It's not like this is
[0:19:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Millions of dollars in
[0:19:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Ethereum that people are spending on a collection.
[0:19:20] Voice L: Yeah. That's Wait. So hold on.
[0:19:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: So, Landy, I have a question for you. The the mint number. Right? Like, the actual mint out. Right? Because I thought that based off of, like, the the burn that this was getting on the timeline, the part, like, the the other communities that they whitelisted, GTD, yeah, they had a first come, first serve. Right now, they're barely at 3,000. They're literally 2,500 and chain short. What do you do? What what... Like, based on your experience, whether it's ordinals, this, that, or whatever, what would you do? And then I'm gonna go to a residency at it.
[0:19:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: First off, you... They're... They put themselves in a hard position by having too much supply. Like, they... We're we're not in, like, an NFT focused run. Most of Robinhood is still, token launches. You get some NFTs that are doing well. Most of the mint outs that you're seeing that are larger collections are people internally just spamming mint. Typically, on the free mint side during free mint phases, they're just spamming and loading it up. Unless you're gonna cut and allocate, you know... And there's a there's a few different ways. You can cut you can cut supply. You can stop the mint, and you can drop, existing holders. You can just let it mint out forever. But the problem is is when you have floor price underneath your current mint price, that's where where things always get tricky because, like, okay. Well, if you're not getting demand publicly and your floor price is undercutting your mint price, which it is, it's already fallen back to, you know, the the the other stages mint prices, basically. Like, you know, see... I see people accepting o o five e... Or WEATH offers. So, like, when you're already at that point, you have to seriously consider what you'd like to do because, one, you don't wanna endanger the collection. Right? So if there's rares and, like, all kinds of stuff, if it's ran... Truly random mint, which most of these platforms will will create it that way, sometimes you can work with them on the back end to have some sort of mathematical algorithm that is working to get rarities out there in the combinations. But if those aren't minted, you don't wanna throw them out because then you throw off all the rarity, mechanics of your mint and your collection rather. So what you would rather do and what I was a fan of doing is saying, okay. If you're gonna fail the mint, you know you're gonna fail it. You cut it. You reimburse whatever was, you know, minted over top of floor during that particular phase. So in this case, the public phase. You cut it right there. You then issue... You're gonna drop the floor price. Right? But you you airdrop, basically, the collection already held holders. Right? Whatever the rest was, and you let the secondary sort it out, and you hope for the best. Because it... If you don't hit the ground running after Mint, you're probably gonna consolidate and die.
[0:22:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:22:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. You're... Yeah. You're correct at that point. Yeah.
[0:22:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: K. But... Then I wanna hear something to do.
[0:22:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. This this one was kinda interesting, because they went around to, you know, just all the different communities, and it was just it was just strange. To me, it was just like, you know, there's... They were kinda going around, right, pulling, like, everyone on the list. Right? But then, you know, Meta Beast is right. There is a few, like, builders and founders who vouch for them. Right? And they were saying, like, oh, yeah. You know, like like, these, like, these guys are cool artists and... You know? So it's kinda like... I don't know, man. It's just...
[0:23:09] Voice I: I don't know. What... But there's but there's
[0:23:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: so many other stronger projects in the market. So, like, this... You know, the Pixel Hood clan is strong. The on chain hoodies is strong. All of the the the grandfathered, you know, the the the first projects that were on there. Right? And then, like, my main project, right, the the stackers, right, are are extremely strong right now. You know, they they just crossed a $100,000 in rewards back to the holders in, what, two weeks. You know?
[0:23:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Hold hold off on that for now, Gamera. I don't I don't wanna, like, go off topic on on this collection. DocNooNoo, go ahead. What's your take on this, DocNooNoo?
[0:23:52] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I kinda forgotten the main point that I want to talk about, but... Yeah. I mean, collection size is not really an issue because we saw... I don't know if you guys know Coltherium, the original founder of Puzzy Penguins. He had a collection recently. Like, he came back from the dead and launched 44,444 NFT collection at $17 each, and it minted out. So
[0:24:16] Voice M: I mean, but he
[0:24:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: has that bank. The bank. He has that backing. He has that that reputation. Right? Because he This
[0:24:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: isn't Right. The founder
[0:24:26] Voice M: of Budget.
[0:24:26] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. But he has a bad reputation. He got witch hunted out of Budget for a reason.
[0:24:31] Moni @monitalan: Does. But he
[0:24:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: has Yeah. Has a
[0:24:33] Moni @monitalan: horrible reputation. But here's the problem. Yeah.
[0:24:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You're dealing with somebody that put on millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars worth of volume. Right? We're talking exponentially higher amount of... And when people see that, they go, okay. Well, it's about the volume at this point. Right? And that's... You know? And then there's also... There was a huge rift. There's a lot of people that don't view him that way. And you might you might. There's a lot of people that don't. And that's just a fact of this space. Like, every... For every villain, there's there's a a a cohort of supporters, and often those cohort of supporters took, took a nice ride with them to the upside. So they're willing to do it again and again. And when you get a cold push, for something like that, which is what ends up happening
[0:25:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And he definitely had the money to do that.
[0:25:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I mean... And there's a million different ways in which you can wash collections too inside wallets and blah blah blah. But fact of the matter is, like, if you have, like... Okay. The guy's an artist. He's got a couple of collections. This one's similar to the other one. People already kinda knew that before even getting in. It's not like it's break the bank mint prices like we've seen in the past. Almost nothing is right now. So it's like, okay. Well, there's a year
[0:25:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: than most. Right, Lamby? I mean, I haven't seen Yeah. It is. Since I've been considering how most the seventeen
[0:25:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: year the most mints have been free or under a dollar.
[0:26:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:26:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Right? Like, for example, the Hoodles were 10¢ a mint, and it ran up to $17. Right? And a lot of these Robinhood ones are... Like, stockbrokers. Perfect example. Right? Like, you had to burn to get in, but still. Right? You could've got in with... At secondary for very cheap prices before it ran up into the thousands. Right?
[0:26:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sure. I mean, it's... It comes down to how you run your Mint and, you know, where you're gonna price it and what the collection size is. Like, if you're if you're gonna price it and you've got the pull to pull a 44,000 collection with, you know, $17 mint price or whatever point zero six five, you you can do it, but you have to recognize where you are positioned in the market and how relevant you are. Right?
[0:26:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Does it also does it also mean, like... Because, like, when I look at the limit per wallet, like, I feel like in the beginning state... Like, this is what I'm saying. Like, it's such a fine tune. This is, like, a very specific animal when it comes to NFT minting. You have to get everything freaking precise because if they would have, let's just say, allowed us to mint a GTD, let's say, four or five, do you think it would have been different, DocNooNoo, or no? Like, or land? Like, what what what do you... This is... Like, I would have probably minted four.
[0:27:22] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. No. I would have been even more bearish on it if they had allowed a bigger of mint allocation on the first bit. Really? Yeah. The point I was trying to make... Yeah. The point I was trying to make about the CoLthereum thing is that the liquidity is there in the market. It's just, like, the alignment isn't, and it's on two levels. Like, number one, the minters. So when Alpha Gamer just told us about, you know, his groups not knowing that this collection existed, that's a dumb issue. Like, they've not done their own research. And then you've got, like, obviously, on the project and founder level, they have not researched well enough the groups that they're distributing to. Because if this is an art collection, we often see, like, these art collections get distributed to the alpha groups who are just there for profitability. Like... Yeah. I won't name any groups, But, yeah, the the main alpha groups in the entity space are there to make profit. They're not there to collect art or hold art, but they are the ones who get distribution. Whereas genuine art collectors, and I'm one of them, like, do buy stuff just for the art, I would not get allocation because all they care about is, like, getting hype and stuff. Like, we saw it with the beaks. That Dima, whatever his name is, the artist behind the beaks, he's he's pretty... He's a pretty big web two artist. And their allocation went via a collab manager who basically runs spots based on hype, and hype comes from Alpha Group. You kind of need to reach, like, a a careful balance because you need the hype and you need the marketing, but you also need holders. Because once those people have gone, who's going to hold your collection, and why would they hold it? And the beaks went from a point 0 three mint to sub point 0 one, and I predicted it. Like, people told... Asked me what my price prediction was. I was, like, down into the right. I gave my exact predictions that, you know, before... Straight after the mint, it will go to about 0.15. And then within a week, you'll see it at, like, sub point 0 one. That's exactly what happens.
[0:29:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: But... No.
[0:29:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. So let me ask you this, DocNooNoo. Like, right now, like, the... It... This is... This to me is the setup for cannibalization of your own project. Right? Your min price is high... Your min price is higher than your secondary price. It's $13.67 on secondary, $17 in change to mint. There's still some people... This is where I always find fascinating. There's still some people minting at $17 and change, which I don't understand why. But now, like, you've almost... You can't, like... Your your collection is cannibalizing itself.
[0:29:39] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I agree. I mean, it's extremely difficult to gain back momentum after it's been killed. And, like, what projects normally do at this point is either they supply cuts or they cut them in price and refund. Like, if it's if it's a legit team, they will refund the people who've already minted or they will, like, drop you more from the supply. So they'll say everyone who's minted will get, like, a second NFT airdrop to them to make up the price difference.
[0:30:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And when... Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No.
[0:30:07] Voice M: I was
[0:30:07] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: just gonna say, for for me, again, it's very difficult to bring back momentum, and I'm I'm, like, bearish on teams who decide to do that because, like, they should have done their research and made sure that the mint went good from the start rather than doing that pivot after and getting greedy.
[0:30:22] Voice M: No. No.
[0:30:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do have a question because you said something very interesting. You would be bearish on the project if they allowed a bigger allocation. Why why why is that? Wouldn't it be... Wouldn't it sell out faster if they allowed wallets to mint more than just a couple?
[0:30:39] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. It will sell out faster, but they'll have a much smaller community, and NFTs run on community and visibility. So less...
[0:30:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And we'll more concentrated in the top wallets. It won't it won't be as distributed.
[0:30:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Alright. Wait. Let's go to... Let's see if Tuxedo wants to add anything. Tuxedo, go ahead. Welcome.
[0:31:00] Voice I: Hi, guys. Thank you for having me. Well, first of all, hi, alpha gamer. It's the second time I see you today.
[0:31:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Sup, Tuxedo?
[0:31:08] Voice I: I hope this time I don't get kicked out for saying hi, Alpha Gamer.
[0:31:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: You might. You might. So...
[0:31:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Now we just kick off it when we're out. You can stay, Tuxedo.
[0:31:19] Voice I: I appreciate that, Landy. You're a
[0:31:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's because, Landy... We... I don't know if you were there, Tuxedo, but Landy was a a strong component of BIP one ten, and that's why he got angry
[0:31:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: at me. Was like never...
[0:31:31] Ryan @Rlad1776: I I was like,
[0:31:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I am
[0:31:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: so anti things are derailing.
[0:31:35] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: He started going off on it.
[0:31:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can we let Tuxedo go? Thank
[0:31:38] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: thank you, Dave.
[0:31:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tuxedo, go ahead, please. Sorry for
[0:31:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: the Tuxedo, if you if you ever find him in in real life Yeah. Just shoot. Send me his location. I'm gonna throw him into the Bay.
[0:31:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's in the Bay Area. Anyway, Tuxedo, do have any insight that you can shed on this right now?
[0:31:52] Voice I: Yeah. I I wanted to ask something. So I recently, like, a couple of days ago, launched a collection, and it is minting at $6. And it is 888 supply. And I have been getting DMs from people that I know for years, and they're like, dude, it's too expensive. And I... I'm trying to understand what... How exactly did they come to the conclusion that it is expensive. It is hand drawn art. Alright? I am doing custom made for pretty much all my folders. This is hours of drawing. And, like, in total, it will be less than 4 k. It will take a month for me to conclude everything. How, like, how do people are so obsessed with free means? I do. I... I'm sorry, Dave, just to add this part, and I'm done. I come from Ordinals. And in Ordinals, $6 is the inscription fee, not the art itself.
[0:32:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't get Landy started.
[0:32:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Well, actually, it's probably more than that.
[0:32:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think you need to know the audience out here. Right? Like, who's the buyer? These aren't art aficionados out here. They're just not. These are people that literally want to get in on something. Right? Like, look at Gamer, right, with his new friends. Gamer got his new friends, and it's just what... Where are we getting into? What are we flipping? Where's the money where's the money at? That's it. Right? Like, that's what NFTs are about. So it's like when you say, hey. It's not worth $6, that's so subjective. And when people say, like, is my art not worth $6? I have no idea. It could be worth $25 to DocNooNoo, but it could be worth 10¢ to me. And, obviously, 10,000 ways to die is worth a million dollars to Natalie, but nobody else. So I think it's knowing who the majority of the audience is. Like, where is the majority of your mint going to come from and the money going to come from? That's that's literally just the the the bottom line. But I hear you. MetaBeast got good good stuff. Okay. No. We're not gonna kick you. But...
[0:33:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. So back to minting the mint price as opposed to the floor currently, Laugh if you will. But there are some people who probably believe that supporting the project or the artist is more important than the lower price.
[0:34:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Agreed. Agreed. 100%. I totally hear you. 10 times Well, not not only that. But
[0:34:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, the greatest utility I've ever heard an artist say, utility. My art is my... The utility.
[0:34:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Well, the other reason why they'll do... They'll try to mint still is for the rarity. If they feel like they can possibly pull a one of one or something legendary, that's that's the reason why they'll still mint. Right? So so if if they have something in the collection that's, you know, a bunch of grails, basically, that are still available, then people will try to mint. They'll gamble. Right? They'll be like, let me let me, you know, roll the dice, and I might be able to pull a legendary.
[0:34:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then they said they have twenty five one of ones. Right? They said they have twenty five one of ones, and they're not gonna reveal... And they're not revealing, you said, at least until twelve to twenty four
[0:35:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: hours. So that would be the reason why people are minting still.
[0:35:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. But I I also I also feel what Metabees is saying in terms of supporting the project at the end of the day and the artist. Like, I get that because you're only getting a small piece, obviously, on secondary. But, yeah, I hear you. DocNooNoo, go ahead, then we'll go to Milo.
[0:35:19] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. I mean, you're assuming there are 5,555 people who... Or or or thereabouts who want to support the artist. So it comes back to distribution again. And I put out, like, one of my 17 paragraph threads. I think, like, the last one that I did was exactly about how founders overlook distribution, and they just outsource it to a collab manager where that's probably the main thing their focus should be on premint because that's the point that you're hand curating your support and your community. But, yeah, also, Tuxedo mentioned, like, you know, there was art on ordinals. You've... I think you're... Basically... There's a completely different audience on ETH, and they are not art collectors. They are mainly flippers, and, you know, they're they're... They are there to trade NFTs as tokens. Like, they're there for the money. But I did wanna ask what Tuxedo did in terms of his distribution. Like, how did you hand it out whitelist spots? Was it a public mint? Or what did you do?
[0:36:17] Voice I: Yeah. Great question. So what I did was I had a round, which was at almost 50% discount for ordinal holders. And then I got approached by 500 different collab managers, which to me, they are like real estate agents. They shouldn't even exist in the first place. I turned them all down because nobody cared about what I'm doing. What I'm doing in reality is that for the last four years, I'm I'm a solo stray animal rescuer. And my cats are the real life cats, essentially, who I take care every day, over 35 of them. And I take them to the vet, and I try to find them homes. I run social media for them. So for me to get just a bunch of people to mint something because they don't know the story, because they want to flip for a rare trait or anything, is not a priority. That's why I turned down the collab managers. I'm not saying that they don't really have a reason to exist in the industry. Every... Everybody has a reason to exist, and that is decided by the market. So I went to the public sale. Like, I just announced it, one hour for the white list of the ordinal holders and straight to public. No KOLs. No paid marketing. I didn't send anyone pieces for free so that they can promote me. I just posted my story, and that's it.
[0:37:37] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: But you did you did communicate what you're... What you were doing, what the point of your project was before? Okay. Yeah.
[0:37:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Is there is one thing I wanted to to add. I had that same mindset that that DocNooNoo was talking about of of, you know, anyone other... That's not on Bitcoin is not, you know, there to hold. That stance changed when the Robinhood meta changed. Right? And now they're actually incentivized to hold. Right? So, again, Stackers, the one that I'm in, that I got in super early, and now my hit... That one NFT that I have is worth, like, $10,000 because it's the highest tier in earning rewards and everything, that's that's the incentive. Right? So you're right about, you know, these... All all these other small collections that don't have any kinda, you know, Ponzinomics or any kinda mechanics where it's a flywheel, you know, like stock brokers or... You know, if there's no thing that's, you know, creating more volume and and more rewards going back into the project, it's it's the earn. Right? It's the earn... It's the hold and earn feature. That's that's the difference. So those projects, they are holding. And that's why Stackers is now one of the top projects because they're incentivizing you to hold. Right? So, like, that one Stacker that I have, it's already earning, like, $300 for simply holding it. And and and since that, you know, project has been so successful, now all the other ones, in in particular, Bitcoin machines, right, which which launched over there as Robinhood machines, they're doing really good. They're, like, super successful. And and what's going on is, essentially, a lot of these projects are now copying the stackers model of the fusion where you can take, you know, two, three NFTs, fuse them into one, burn the supply, and then they also have the token. So, basically, it becomes double deflationary where the NFTs are getting burned and the token is getting burned at the same time. So that's why they have this new double deflationary thing. And the stacker is just... This was just yesterday. They added this new matcha... Gacha machine where, essentially, you can actually take your earnings and and... I guess they made some of the partnership with a Solana. I forgot the name of it. But, essentially, it's like Pokemon and one piece collector cards that are, like, the official, like, the real ones. Right? So you can actually take your earnings and and, you know, roll the dice, and you might, you know, win one of these, like, rare Pokemon cards now also. So there's there's all kinds of things that they're doing now with the the earning mechanics. So it's not just, you know, oh, earn stock or earn stable coins. Now they're actually using it to to... Like like that. Right? Like, oh, like, you... We we can use it to get Pokemon cards. And, you know, I don't know if you guys have looked, but, like, the demand is so high. You can't even go get Pokemon cards anymore. Right?
[0:40:52] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: So that...
[0:40:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's that's the interesting part.
[0:40:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: So that's
[0:40:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: that's the incentive to hold and earn and... Yeah.
[0:40:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good stuff, gamer. Let's go to Milo then Monie, and then let's move on to some other stories.
[0:41:04] Milo @0dteSPY: My only comment is applying fine art dynamics to NFTs would be insane. And if you don't know how insane fine art is, then do some reading. Any rate, it's probably the greatest grift ever, but it is what it is. I'm feeding the ducks. Enjoy.
[0:41:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Those facts. I love my love. Straight facts. Money, go ahead.
[0:41:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was just gonna say before money goes is we all know that we utilize, like, larger collections to launder money. I mean, this... Bitcoin, Ethereum has been done for a very long time. I mean, I personally would never do such a thing, but it's very clear that that's how many VCs were laundering money around.
[0:41:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Right. I mean, you're you're saying that my Ethereum... That my Ethereum rock NFT should not have been worth 17 east? Is that what
[0:42:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: you're saying? I'm I'm kinda hinting at it. I don't know if you could pick that up.
[0:42:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Sorry. Morny, go ahead.
[0:42:10] Moni @monitalan: Also, another good example is ScannerCat. Right? I mean, I
[0:42:14] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: think Yes.
[0:42:15] Moni @monitalan: They launched just for... What was it? $2? Or I I
[0:42:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't remember.
[0:42:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: They were a $4 mint, and it went all the way up to $900.
[0:42:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: And there's there's...... We didn't get, guys. It's all the ones we...
[0:42:29] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. And that one that one was simple. And, actually, this one was such a simple, like, get effective. They're they're not doing any of that crazy mechanics. They simply said, hey. The team will go out into the market, and we will acquire all these passive earning projects, and then we'll take the the rewards and give it all back to the holders. That was it. And then so they went out and got, you know, Chainmancers and Stackers and, you know, all the ones that were earning passively. And then they just... They built up their treasury, and then, basically, they were just getting passive income just every day, literally, every day, every hour, just just piling up, piling up, and then they were dispersing it. And that was it. That was all they needed. And then that collection, yeah, was a $4 mint. And then within, what, a week, it it shot up, yeah, to, like, 900. Now it's come back down to, like, 350, but still, that's astronomical, you know, return.
[0:43:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy.
[0:43:34] Moni @monitalan: Are you still active? Just for just
[0:43:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: for your... Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I I came over here because I saw you guys had your space. They're probably wondering why why I left my cohost spot. But but... Yeah. Yeah. You know? Because I was like, oh, let me let me go holler at you guys over here. But, yeah, I still have my can of cat. I actually have four of those.
[0:43:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: And, I have
[0:43:57] Voice E: end up?
[0:43:58] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I actually I actually have the one of one, actually, of that collection. Yeah.
[0:44:04] Voice I: Did you end up cohosting that space, alpha?
[0:44:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently that I
[0:44:10] Voice I: got kicked because I said hi to you?
[0:44:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. That was that was that wasn't me. That was someone else. I I don't know why that's not
[0:44:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: about me. I was wild. I was
[0:44:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: just That was not me. I would I would tell you they kicked you out.
[0:44:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Tomatoes, Adam.
[0:44:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was not me. Open the salad bar.
[0:44:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Mhmm. No. No. But, actually, you know what? It is interesting, though. Just real quick.
[0:44:32] Voice L: Okay.
[0:44:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Real quick. I do find it interesting that the Robinhood community is really receptive to Bitcoin people. So that that community... Like, the reason why I'll bring this up, money notes, because she was there. Right?
[0:44:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: They... We... They're receptive to Bitcoin because we have money.
[0:44:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: When when, so Papo of Bitcoin machines, when he came in, right, and I was like, oh, what's up, Papo? You know? Because I'm a OG machine holder. And then and then he basically got, you know, everyone in. Right? He's like, oh, yeah. I'm I'm I'm coming over. You know? Like, we'll see how it goes. You know? And then, you know, Robinhood machines took off. Right? Now they're, you know, in the hundreds. Right? Same thing. I think that was a free mint, actually. And then and then bourbon with the clay stocks. Right? Bourbon came into our our space. I was like, oh, shit. What's our bourbon? And... Because, again, I hold one of his grails from his Satoshi knots, one of his, you know, his clay collections. And then he's like, oh, shit. He's like, you're over here? I'm like, yeah. And he's like, oh, okay. Dope. And he's like he's like, yeah. We'll we'll get in with you guys. And then, yeah, we all vented. Right? Clay stocks did really well. Right? Like, $250,000 now, right, in volume. So so now, like, all the people robbing here are like, yes. Bring bring more Bitcoin founders. Bring bring more
[0:45:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'll forgive me.
[0:46:01] Voice L: Yeah. Go ahead.
[0:46:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Are you still holding your clay stocks? Because it's down, like, 60%, I think.
[0:46:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I I sold two of them around, like, $90. And then, yeah, that put... You know, I basically pull... Pulled my initial out, and now I'm just, you know, moon bagged on the house. No risk.
[0:46:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I'm making
[0:46:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That'll be you selling?
[0:46:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: I said no. I'm holding on to that one. I'm holding on to at least one. I really like the... I feel like an artist.
[0:46:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Which one?
[0:46:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'll send I'll send it to you. I'll send it to you.
[0:46:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Because if you were lucky enough to get, like, a pig, like, he he said the pit... Any pig, right, was was valuable. The Pepe one, of course, that's valuable. Right? But, like, the... If you had, like, the gun or the knife, those are really, really valuable. Like, there was a bunch of traits that were really valuable. Those are all trade for, $500 right now.
[0:46:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: On clay songs?
[0:47:01] Moni @monitalan: That that question?
[0:47:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yeah. So I have I have the bear the the bear.
[0:47:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, no. The bear is pretty... The bear and the bull are common....
[0:47:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Common. Yeah.
[0:47:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. But if you had the frog or the pig, yeah, those things are going for for a lot of money.
[0:47:16] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Did I found gold?
[0:47:17] Voice M: I sold the
[0:47:18] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: pig yesterday for 0.05.
[0:47:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Nice. Hey, guys. Hey. Hey. Hey. What what what... What's up, Khalif? What's up? Nothing much. Hey. Hey. You you here to tell us about NFTs on Robinhood, or what's up?
[0:47:38] Voice L: Oh, no. I haven't figured out how to post them yet, but I still... Yeah. I'm just an NFT artist like you know.
[0:47:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Okay. Posting?
[0:47:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Interesting. Yeah. Let's let's let's... We're moving on with the show, guys. We're moving on with
[0:47:51] Voice M: the show.
[0:47:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I saw Samara posted something about, Robinhood NFT that's tied to prediction markets. So I don't know if you wanna give him a second. Just give him a second.
[0:48:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. We got... Wait. We got
[0:48:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: allocation over here, don't we? Samara, what to do? I saw in the chat. The vouch better be good for something. Yeah.
[0:48:09] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Shout to you guys. Shout out to to you Yeah. I have a location. Some white list spots for sites. It's coming on Robin Hood. It's a registered market being on Robin Hood. So it's highly coveted. For some reason, I don't know why. I DM them. They said that they gave me seven wide list ports. So, yeah, it's Deepgram. Of course, you have priority. So... But, yeah, I guess I'll ping Jumbotron. You can check it out.
[0:48:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Tamara, you are... Well, you guys are aware that Robinhood, they do have a prediction market already. Right?
[0:48:39] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Yeah. I just... You know, hopefully, it's something, I guess.
[0:48:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: So Is it... Tamara, would it... Could it happen to be the same guy that did, you know, Camel that did trade on-site? Could it be could it be that team? Because I see site. I don't know. I'm just kind of assimilating. Don't wanna throw anybody into the bus or not. But you remember that? It was, like, the social selling, like, prediction market platform, but that that shit shut down QuickQuick already.
[0:49:03] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Firstly, I'm just basically writing on the Hyper Hood. Hopefully, it just goes crazy because they have, like, a site where you connect your
[0:49:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that was a quick little fat finger on Landy's part. Sorry. Go ahead.
[0:49:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: That was my bad, dude.
[0:49:17] Samara @thee_samara: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Basic... I'm just basically riding on the Hyper Hood. I hope they just ride on the Hyper Robin Hood and just do something with NFTs. Main reason, they've kind of we've kind been having this talk. I meant to post this, you know, this post for, like, couple of days now, but I just want to wait to see the supply. But they are so, you know, hesitant to just to, you know, divulge the the supply. So I don't know, man. I just posted it. Because right now, they said they're no longer partnering for... You know, with people for collapse, they're but gonna, you know, honor the agreement we had a couple of days ago. The only way to get whitelisted now is to basically, you know, link your x, complete some tasks in the platform to get some collabs. But they said I'm gonna honor our agreement, and they gave me several whitelist spots. So I don't know if they're if they're, like, part of the team with Camel. I have no idea. But...
[0:50:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? What's the purpose of the NFT?
[0:50:07] Samara @thee_samara: That's the thing. Right.
[0:50:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's that's the thing? Oh, my.
[0:50:12] Samara @thee_samara: No. No. Like, no.
[0:50:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, it it... It's gonna cook. It's gonna cook, guys. Oh, however you guys say it.
[0:50:18] Samara @thee_samara: I've never really
[0:50:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: should For for prediction market? I never heard this one before.
[0:50:21] Samara @thee_samara: Exactly. So it's a jealous collection for the sites. I think they're trying to write on the whole narrative of NFTs on Robinhood. So I'm just banking on the fact that, you know, people fall more into this stuff, you know, drives volume and pumps the bag. That's that's just my my whole, you know, mode of approach.
[0:50:36] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Does it have any Ponzinomics
[0:50:39] Samara @thee_samara: Right now? Involved. Right now, no. Right now, no.
[0:50:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Trust me, kids. Trust me,
[0:50:44] Samara @thee_samara: bro. Yeah. Right now, no. Like, that's the... I held off because we're talking since... Was it... The first post I sent was August 16, and they responded. And I haven't, you know, given them a feedback because I meant to make the post. I want to wait to see if they, you know, kind of divert certain things about the supply. Although, did... Did he tell me it was gonna be, like, below $5 per mint? So that's the only thing I know. And, you know, they came up with the sites where you go literally apply for, like, a white list, and everyone just basically fighting on the time line for it. So I already have it. I'm like, okay.
[0:51:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: I guess my my my misunderstanding or my confusion right now is that that Robinhood already has their own prediction market. So we're building a prediction market on top of another prediction market?
[0:51:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You can only think about it. Right? Like, Polymarket has a bazillion different, like Yeah.
[0:51:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Cali, Polymarket. Yeah. You could have multiple. But I but I I... I'm gonna head out here with... But I just wanna leave you guys with this.
[0:51:41] Voice M: When were
[0:51:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: your new friends?
[0:51:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Ponzinomics. Right? The mechanics, the the token... Not even tokenomics. It really is, like, the flywheel of the Ponzinomics. Right? So the one that's new... I'm just putting it on your radar in case you don't know, is one called Quotron. Okay? It's q u o tron. Quotron. Okay? You're laughing until you go see how much the fucking...
[0:52:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. We're laughing because DocNooNoo put this in the in
[0:52:11] Voice M: the class.
[0:52:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Did you guys get in? Did you guys get in?
[0:52:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Obviously not because it's a pie. If we did it, probably... Okay.
[0:52:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So you guys faded it. Okay.
[0:52:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's why we're doing it because we faded it.
[0:52:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So so, again, when I... You know, I I laugh, but when I tell you guys, Ponzinomics, right, you you know, Landy already knows this. Right? Like, short term, it's it's wonderful, but, you know, it's obviously not... Know, it's Ponziomics. Right? So that... So when when you're looking at these... That... This is what I'm doing. When I'm looking at all these projects now, I'm I'm just going straight to the... Okay. What are the mechanics? What... Is there Ponziomics involved? There's there's some kind of flywheel earning mechanism. Like, what is it? You gotta... No one no one no one over there cares about the art. There's gotta be something else that... That's gonna earn... Give me more money, give me more value, Earn me some... Go quote... Go do something for me.
[0:53:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thousand $314 floor price?
[0:53:11] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What? Yes.
[0:53:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: I told you.
[0:53:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where are these? Yes. What is going on?
[0:53:15] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I posted and faded at $18, Dave.
[0:53:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my... Yeah. Why would this
[0:53:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: not Yeah. It dropped down to, like, $15, 18 doll... And then it just shot up from there.
[0:53:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's money because we traded it. I told you, Dave.
[0:53:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So so How
[0:53:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: do you So
[0:53:29] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: so think think about what I just said, though. Right? And then compare that to this Galactic project. Right? $12, it was the same price that you could've gotten a Quotron. Right?
[0:53:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. But Right.
[0:53:43] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: The Quotron, obviously, they they don't give two shits about art because look at it. Right? They don't fucking give two shits. Right? But the but the the Ponzinomics on the back end, right, that's where the fucking money is at.
[0:53:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. So in trenches lingo, Ponzinomics is a good thing. Right?
[0:54:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Yeah. I believe what he's saying is confuse the buyers long enough so that they have no idea what's going on until floor plan is removed.
[0:54:12] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's that's where the value is.
[0:54:14] Voice I: Guys, I'm also gonna drop here. And since everyone is looking for utility, I would like say that whoever mints any of my Stray Cats collection is going to have eternal fortune and prosperity in his life. That is a guarantee.
[0:54:28] Voice M: So the move. I like
[0:54:29] Voice I: that too. To beat that.
[0:54:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I like that. Your... Drop the link down below, my neighbor Drop the link.
[0:54:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: For Ponzinomics.
[0:54:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Can I I'm just being honest? I'm I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings.
[0:54:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No.
[0:54:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm just being honest. It's real talk. Know what talking about?
[0:54:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's crazy is that there's a $3,300 floor price up a 140
[0:54:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. And look and look when I launched it, Dave. Look when it launched. When
[0:54:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: did it
[0:54:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: launch? $186,000 in volume. This is Look
[0:54:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: look look what it... No. No. The price is impressive,
[0:54:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: but look look where it... Look what Are these tweets on their on their thing, like, what each NFT claimed today? Like, 470... Said Jesus Christ.
[0:55:05] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yes. So so if you can buy NFT that is earning you that much money passively in the back end, You see what I'm getting at? That's the value proposition.
[0:55:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: And there's 4,444 of these. Just to show you, yes, supply matters, but at the end of the day, sometimes it genuinely doesn't. If you can get the right, like, hey. We gonna mess with... Alright. Gamer, have fun with your new friends and, Thundercat, Thundercats, good luck with everything you're doing and prosperity forever. Have a good day, everyone. Thanks, Gamer. You too.
[0:55:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And and next time, don't fade DocNooNoo because you you No.
[0:55:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: We we never faded. She called that. She's been faded. Don't know why she's not putting anything in the chat. She knows that I'm severely autistic, and I miss, like, 90% of the shit she puts. But, anyway, DocNooNoo, go ahead, then we'll go to Samara, then Monie.
[0:55:52] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. Sorry. I know you wanna kind of conclude the NFT chat, but I can go on forever, so I will real quick. Yeah. Just kind of circling and concluding. So, like, alpha gamer, I was basically talking about, like, art collectors don't really exist on ETH rather than holders. And what you just said about Ponzinomics, like, I totally agree with you. Robinhood has bought something different to the NFT space, and it's given us, like, a view of what NFTs can do and should be. But I would say that everything on Robinhood so far is also Ponzinomics. So was gonna say that, like, a little while ago before you mentioned the words. Yeah. Even stock brokers, like, everything is circular. Flywheel. Volume stops. Everything stops. So... Yeah.
[0:56:34] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Two keywords. Flywheel Ponziomix. There you go.
[0:56:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: And which is a good thing in the transit. Wow. Okay.
[0:56:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my goodness. This is crazy. Yeah. Samara, go ahead. Thanks, Gamer. Thanks,
[0:56:46] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. I agree with Gamer and Nuni because, bro, that's basically what what we're meant in NS zero. Like, we're basically hoping on the Pausonomics just put... That push our bags to the upside. So that's what I'm kinda hoping. I'd mean something close towards, you know, stump brokers did. Because stump brokers, personally, I thought the idea was stupid initially because I got the alpha, but I thought it was stupid. And now, apparently, I'm the stupid one. So any... Anytime I see something that has some sort of, you know, flywheel, whatever, bro, that's why I'm kinda, like, bringing bringing this this stuff stuff onto, bro. Like, prediction markets on Robinhood. Yes. There are the prediction markets on Robinhood, but the whole time line is kinda, like, you know, feening for this stuff right now. So I guess that's a good thing. So I'm basically banking on the whole point, know, concept of NFC's Robinhood. So temper Bro, there's...
[0:57:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Samar, there's... If you're looking at these Quotron, I'm looking at the activity right now. Some of these are minting right now. I don't know what... How this works, but, like, there's different ones minting now for $5, for 37¢, for 37¢, for $3. But yet some of the sales going... What is going on? The sales going off now for some of them are $3,423. What is the deal? Like, this is, like, the... Like, let's reward the early... Or this is the other thing too. Right? It's either you're in the boys club and and, like, you made it or you didn't. Now I'm obviously salty because I'm on the outside. If I was on the inside, I'd literally be telling you all to go f yourself and, like, and They they like, funny
[0:58:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: ones. Yeah. Go look at the holders if you really wanna feel good about yourself. Not knowing how much one of these is worth, go look at how much these holders are holding.
[0:58:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: 122... Bro, there's five holders above a 100 of these things. That's crazy. And who's... Is actually buying... Oh my god. Ultrapower. Why are we not literally mirroring everything Ultrapower is doing, DocNooNoo? If... I've heard this name follow. Of course, I need to follow this guy. Every... This guy's everywhere. What is the deal? Ugh. My goodness. Anyways...
[0:58:41] Samara @thee_samara: Also also check, like, I'm a retard. He's another another dude. You guys should check out his for Reno on OpenSea too. I think
[0:58:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: that's his name called Ponzinomics Bueno, and I'm a retard. It's not a retard. Got
[0:58:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: it. Yep. Ponzinomics, we love Madoff. Shout out to SBF. You know, borrow from Peter to pay Paul to then pay Mary. Trust me, bro. All... Everything we've ever taught you to avoid is essentially what we're now going back on in this one episode and saying, forget all of that. Move forward with the nonsense. Anyways...
[0:59:16] Moni @monitalan: I do have a question before Alpha leaves. There was another mint today. I think it was today, the bandits. It hasn't... I mean, it's down from whatever the high was today. Is there anything there since we're not
[0:59:29] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: finding good color?
[0:59:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I'm trying to remember because there were so many.
[0:59:35] Moni @monitalan: It's 19. The other one was the the... Well, it was yesterday. Right? Bandit was one.
[0:59:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. There was there was something wrong with that one. I'm trying to remember what it was.
[0:59:45] Moni @monitalan: And then the doll one was the other one that melted. I don't know how that
[0:59:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: one went.
[0:59:50] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What was it with the bandits?
[0:59:52] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: It was some social game or something. Like, you can steal people's money.
[0:59:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, yeah. Like like, raiding a vault. Like, you needed, yeah. Yeah. To raid a vault system or something like that. Shit. I can't remember what it was now. Damn. I'm I'm having a old man moment.
[1:00:14] Moni @monitalan: And then the other one was the doll sub, right, which is at, like, $30.
[1:00:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. That one I didn't do either, but there was something wrong with the bandit one. I just can't remember what what it was. I ended up not minting that one.
[1:00:31] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. But I
[1:00:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And then it tanked. Right? It went from, like, 30 down to, like, 15 or something like that.
[1:00:37] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. They both sold out. Anyway, I was just curious. The doll club is down to, like, 20%.
[1:00:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: By the way, Galactic, they
[1:00:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: they freeze. Oh, that's what... That's that's what I just remembered. So the gaming part. Right? Be very careful of these projects that promise gaming. Okay? Because, like, unless you're...
[1:01:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's a scamper in my bags. Hold on, alpha gamer.
[1:01:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh. No. That's that's the quick starter on blockchain right there.
[1:01:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold on. No. Gaming never was gonna work
[1:01:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: on blockchain. It's always... Right. Takes years to develop.
[1:01:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's not even about that gamer. You can be an indie dev, and you can create a pixel art game in a matter of six months. Problem is that projects that pitch gaming, they... They're pitching to an audience that's investing a bunch of money. And any kind of game that you're gonna build... Look. The gaming industry is already in dire straits when it comes to major multibillion dollar studios that are getting axed left and right in the regular gaming space. You're not... And one of the problems with gaming and crypto is they don't mix. A lot of the gaming space hates crypto even though even though if they took Steam, items and put them on the blockchain, they would love it. Right? But the problem is is they're already trapped in ecosystems where they're getting nickel and dimed for, you know, outfits and all kinds of crap and other types
[1:02:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: of games. Digital skins, sir. Digital skins.
[1:02:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't care what it's called. The point is that that they... They're already hammered six ways from Sunday over there. So now if you're trying to approach it from the crypto side going into gaming, one of the things is is you're literally leaning into the most disliked portion. Even though it's profitable, it's still one of the most disliked portions of gaming, right, is the nickel and dime factor for a lot of this stuff. So any any project, especially bootstrap projects in crypto that say that they're gonna do gaming, we've done this a ton a ton. Even before there was, really NFTs, it was all we're gonna do blockchain based gaming. Right? We're talking back in 1516 bear market in the run
[1:03:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: into the
[1:03:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: ICO meta, With it was all about, yeah, we could do blockchain gaming. Eventually, we could figure out ways in which the tokens can be the actual economy and currency. Like, this was before you had any kind of NFT stuff, that was really... You know, it was it was conceptual, and there were some stuff out there, but it wasn't really what we saw in the '19, to to 2021, meta. It's never gonna work unless you have a large company like a Valve. And Valve would probably be the one to do it because they have such a robust item marketplace that already trades, in in a big way where you get items that can sell for massive amounts of money, but it goes into your wallet. Like, what incentive do they really have to put that on blockchain? They don't have any incentive. So it's not until you see one of these bigger companies start to move that anyone is ever gonna be able to successfully pitch anything related to blockchain and gaming. I just think it's mostly... If it's a value add to an art piece, sure. Yeah. It's something that comes later though. It shouldn't be something that comes out the gate. It's like, hey. We've been working on some cool stuff in the background.
[1:04:12] Voice L: Just want to build onto your point, Lundy, as well. They've already started to build it as well. So they've already started the building process and what they've done in terms of in game items. So they're already on that journey. They've already built, like, the market for it and people are paying for it already in terms of roadblocks and credits and everything else. So they've... They're all... Already using technology. So why why backward revert?
[1:04:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. It... It's literally pointless. It's one of the most... I've been screaming from the mountaintops that this was a dumb route to go down, and then you had Mark Zuckerberg literally make meta. Right? And remember what his pitch was. Remember what his pitch was. It wasn't just about virtual reality. It was about... It was the whole, owning in game land. It was all the decentraland kinda kinda meta stuff and then building gaming on top of that, and it was gonna be blockchain. Remember, Meta is behind two blockchains. Their tech is behind two blockchains. Remember, that all was was based on gaming. It was all gonna be based on gaming. Was all gonna be based on virtual reality worlds and the metaverse, and it was gonna be blockchain connected. Everyone forgets these days that that was the... We... We've already had a a billion dollar... A multibillion dollar organization go into this with a billionaire putting up his own personal funds to help develop some of it. And it was never gonna go anywhere. It's just the... Who's the audience? The audience is one that's been abused through DLC packs, after DLC pack. You had a dying, MMO, meta already happening at that time with World of Warcraft and all of these other ones that came up to try to challenge World of Warcraft and died. You know, some of them survived for a little while. I mean, you could you could make an argument that there might be a little bit of a resurgence in that, but it's more based on instance based co op multiplayer stuff than it is any large MMO. Granted, there's still stalwarts. World of Warcraft is still around. But point being is it is not the hotness. And and why would you take an existing payment system and then build blockchain rails around it so they can trade around your system? Because it... Most of these companies weren't gonna utilize their own blockchain stuff. Meta tried. Right? Facebook tried. Mark Mark Zuckerberg tried. He tried to do it, and it it was a failing... It was a failed and failing venture. And, I mean, there was two blockchains that that arose out of that. But, you know, you have literal... A blockchain that is focused on gaming even now, even through the the the run up into the most recent, bull market into bear cycle, and that was SWE. Right? And then all of the different blockchain based gaming and NFT based gaming stuff, they have no money. They're not gonna build anything that people are actually gonna buy. It's gonna be purely speculative, and then they'll fail, and they'll parachute their way out. So I agree with you, alpha gamer. I I don't disagree. But the fact that anyone still believes that any kind of gaming meta is gonna be successful, they're disillusioned. If anything, your gaming meta will be successful because someone's gonna open up USDT payments and USDC payments and stablecoin payments to already existing gaming ecosystems, and that's it. That's gonna be your connection in. Why put anything there on the blockchain? It's just silly.
[1:07:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. These quote transmitted for $3.
[1:07:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You found it.
[1:07:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Some guy... This is crazy. Some of these guys are holding 10, 12 A 100 of those things. Thousand dollars. This is insane.
[1:08:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But but look at look at the date, though. Look at the activity date.
[1:08:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm I'm already a week
[1:08:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: back there. When did it launch?
[1:08:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Two weeks ago. Yeah. I mean, some mints were, like, a couple $100. I don't understand who these three that... What these... I just don't understand the mechanics, but it's still crazy. Some of these guys, quote, one, two, three, four, five. These... Everyone minted five, six, but it's all again. Like, stock brokers allowed you. I to the website. I still don't even understand... Have a clear picture as to what the hell this shit is. So, yeah, I guess we gotta find everything that comes through. Hey. Why don't we do this, guys? Why don't we actually create a freaking swarm of agents, like, using GrokBot and filter every single NFT project directly through it and make sure that it meets our PonziNomics criteria and then else? Like, can p... Yeah. Like, what are we doing out here? Like like, there should be a communal ATC GrockBot, right, that we chip in for, that we literally run every single project through, and we give it extremely specific criteria and be like, we mint or we don't mint? Yes or no? That's it based off of... Oh, we have it just literally, like... I have... We have the the OpenSea API. We can steal it from the unchained hoodies because we have it. You know what I'm saying? Like, we can steal that API and be able to use that in our freaking... What's it called? Because this is... Like, this frustrates the hell out of me. A... I'm looking at a $5 mint $5 mint two weeks ago, and this guy's sitting on $3,136
[1:09:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: right How was the behavior around?
[1:09:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's still minting. Apparently, it's still minting because the items are 4,444. I think people are still starting to get wind of it now, but there's only 4,166 so far that are out there. So there's still another 250 to go. So you're gonna see... I think those are the mints that I'm actually seeing right now on OpenSea for $4, for 37¢, for literally 37¢... Somebody's minting one of these for 37¢ right now. 37¢. Insane. That's crazy work. My goodness. Anyways
[1:10:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I saw Monica had her hand up.
[1:10:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. Go ahead, Monique.
[1:10:10] Moni @monitalan: I think it didn't come back down
[1:10:11] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: from before. I think we're good.
[1:10:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: The the thing is... The the other thing, Nat, is the volume is there. Twenty four hour volume is literally 236 seat. That's $586,000. Like, yeah, mints of $4.37 and and $5 and $6 will get you so far. But some people are paying ridiculous money for this nonsense. I don't understand. Crazy. This is insane. It's so much easier to
[1:10:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: just trade and make money. Like, that's... I just never understood a lot of... Like, I've never viewed NFTs and even Ordinals even though I made a ton of money on Ordinals because I was early. It's not because I was good. It's not because I was I was early, and I was lucky because I was early, and I could show that my wallet had OG status from the OG days of Mint. So I'd get into every freaking Mint because they wanted to white list every every OG wallet and large holder of of the OG collections on Ordinals, for instance. Right? Like, none of it... It's never made sense to me because, I guess, as a trader... And and that can maybe sympathize. I don't view, like, any of what I do on, like, Robinhood or even Ethereum or Solana when it came to NFTs, except I did make quite a bit of money in in in Ethereum NFTs. But it... And they still never viewed it as, like, oh my god. Like, I'm gonna try to make money here when I can... If you... If you're good at reading markets, I can go and I can trade, and I can make way more money in a day than most of these people investing massive amounts of money in NFT collections. And I just don't I don't... Maybe maybe it's because I'm a trader. I don't see it. And, like, I I don't Maybe I'm a dick.
[1:12:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm right... Nope. I'm right there with you, Landy. That's why I... God bless DocNooNoo, and we were worried she was going to leave the chat because I was just bombarding her with questions. I'm glad she didn't leave because I... I'm on the same page as you, Landy.
[1:12:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I mean, like, and and I I said this to Alpha Gamer the other day when it came to, like, all of these NFTs that have, like, dividends in the stocks that they're gonna add to a giant basket and, like, all this. Like, can just go trade those, I'll make way more money than these will ever pay no matter how much I invest in them. Right? It's just never like... And I think it's because in 2020, 2021, everybody's making so much money off of very low cost mints that went to insane prices. Right? And and a lot of people got very, very wealthy or very rich, I should say, because they certainly didn't keep their wealth. But they got very, very rich very, very quickly if if only for many of them, unfortunately for them, p and l wise on paper. But, like, I just don't... Like, we we are in markets to buy and sell, and I never viewed, I guess, the art market outside of, like, wash trading and some money laundering. I never viewed it as anything more than, like, oh, yeah. It's art. Like, I like art, and I like PFPs. And real... Realistically, Twitter... Remember, Twitter was what made this the meta in 2020 and and 2021. Right? In in through '19... When when you could connect your, essentially, wallet to be your PFP and pull from your PFPs and your wallet, that's what really made everything cook. Right? Because you had the biggest social media platform really embracing NFTs, and that all got reversed. So I don't know. I I just... Like, I look at it, like, from a time and money perspective. Like, in one trade, can make more than... You know? Dave, you're just going through numbers. Like, so if somebody has a 100 of these, they're $3,000. Right? So, you know, they made $30 or they got $30 worth of, am I am I doing the math right or $300?
[1:14:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I mean, you're a little short on the 100. Let's say 10. Yes. $30.
[1:14:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: 3, well, $30 or $300. Right? Like, okay. It might make... It might take me a couple of trades to to go $300, but $30 is not not hard in these markets for, like, traders. Like, if you actually are a successful trader and you actually know what you're doing... And I guess maybe that is the clash. Right? As art projects and NFTs really got rolling, it's a whole new demographic of people when I'm used to the market being predominantly run by traders and exchanges and stuff like that. So I don't know. Maybe I'm jaded. Maybe I'm... Maybe I really do need a better perspective on things. And I've already been through a bunch of these fronts with NFTs and ordinals and all that stuff.
[1:15:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm right there with you, bud. Yeah. Noonan, go ahead.
[1:15:21] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. Sorry. It was just about QATRONs. I just did some research. So their token is at $3,840 per token. And if you want to mint a machine, you have to get one of their tokens and burn it. Just one token, and that gives you a machine. So, essentially, the token price and the floor price are following each other.
[1:15:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: But that's that's such an interesting concept because if I wanted to if I wanted to... I don't wanna sound, you know, mean because we don't we don't know how long this NFT pump is going to last. Right? That's my concern. So if I if I had $3,000 as an investor, as a trader, I feel like with $3,000, I would rather just, you know, invest or trade in the market. So, like, what Landy is saying.
[1:16:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: But you never know.
[1:16:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: You never know with with these NFTs. But thank you for bringing that up. So you have to you have to buy the tokens, burn the tokens, and then receive...
[1:16:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Right.
[1:16:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: What was that, Landy?
[1:16:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's more it's more accessible. Right? Because there's a lot of people that are in NFTs that are not traders. So I get it. Like, I I do get it. I'm a jaded stupid puppet, and I apologize.
[1:16:31] Moni @monitalan: No. It's okay. It's alright.
[1:16:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's like draw some circles on my desk, on on this drawable desk thinking, like, man, maybe I should make an NFT collection out of what I just drew.
[1:16:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: As long as as long as it's not, like, a 100,000 or 10,000 of these crazy numbers. Right? I think... I really do think there's something there.
[1:16:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: 555, but I could cut it to 3,333.
[1:17:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do think there's something there, DocNooNoo. Right? I I I think if projects realize that at some point, a smaller collection will make it more scarce, I think we'll start to see smaller collections in my opinion.
[1:17:16] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. I I personally think, like, we're we're past this whole 10,000 collection or 5,000 collection that has to... Like, make it, like, 2,000 max, and everyone should just go home.
[1:17:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I have a question on that. Samara, DocNooNoo, you have a lot of experience. I know the money's gotta drop. But,
[1:17:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: do you think that there will be market conditions that can support 10,000... 10 k collections? Collections. Like... And I'm not talking about, like, big names with bunch of backing, and, like, the hot meta. But, like, what we used to see, even even this past bull run, is you could see 10,000 piece collections minting pretty easily as long as they did good work, on setting up and and staging for the mint. Like, even on Ordinals, you had multiple ten ten k collections that would mint out on a pretty regular basis concurrently. You saw it on Solana. Saw it on Ethereum. Do you think that those days are done, or is this just, you know, maybe the status quo is smaller collections, more limited, more rare?
[1:18:25] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: So my my take on this is the same as my take on, like, mid price, where people say it's too expensive. You can't charge that much. I think it comes down to... Like, the money is there in the market. It's just that people are a lot wise on what they spend on. So for a 10 k collection to exist, there needs to be a pretty compelling reason for that 10 k to exist. And if you've built something that people want, there's no reason that a 10 k can't mint out. But if it's just an art collection or merch or all the other stuff that we've just been, like, groomed, I think, as utility over the last five years, then no. But, yeah, I think, like, obviously, with Robinhood stocks and whatnot, like, if if there are compelling ecosystems that work, then, yeah, they could Mint help.
[1:19:12] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Personally, I think, like, that whole 10 collection stuff cannot work on Robinhood personally because I just feel like it's just liquidity rotation, to be honest, like, from meme coins to NFT, and everyone just looking for the next... You know? I I think everyone's wiser now. I think that's the problem we have. Everyone's wiser now. Back in 2021, like, everyone was not as wise as they are right now, and everyone... And, again, the barrier of entry was kind of, like, higher then compared to now. And, again, the team members behind these, you know, 10 k means they have to have some compelling arguments for people to mint their collection. Well, I don't think it's gonna happen anymore. Don't think anyone was going to be so obligated to believe what's, you know, a founder or, you know, a KOL says to maintain this tank collection. I mean, for the the Sprites would be had, like, 44,000, obviously. They minted out. But, again, it can't all be normal users minting their collection out. So I think the 10 k stuff is just to... You know, it's... We're way past that. The only, you know, the only chain that I think could really, really spend a chance is obviously Ethereum, but still, I basically, in all honesty, think people are just wiser now. Like, everyone's wise in investing. No one wants wants to throw, like, a thousand dollars at an NFC collection. Even, bro, even $10 for... And it's the... Or Robin Hood. You should see the discord charts. Like, the chats are crazy. Like, no one wants to spend $20 in an NFT collection even if it's the 5,000 of of supply because everyone kinda feels like the way it just moves from one NFT to another. See what Inkchain tried to do. They tried to, like, rip... Like, kind of, like, go through the whole NFT, you know, route. But then in, like, in forty eight hours, they kinda, like, died off, everyone came back to Robinhood. So it's just liquidity moving from one particular chain to another, and I don't think people are willing or even able to even stick with a collection for, like, past a month. Like, Stormbrokers was like the, you know, the epitome of, yo, this is what it could be, but even Stormbrokers are kinda, like, going through it right now because people are literally selling. And most people who list, you know, at a particular price aren't even getting... Those deals, no one wants to buy them because everyone's like, yeah. We get the fact that you can, like, stake this collection and get, like, stocks and everything, but it's... Doesn't make people feel good anymore, to be honest. Everyone just wants to flip. No one cares about the art, by the way. That is the truth. Everyone just wants to dollar value tied to the artwork if the artwork Sorry?
[1:21:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hurt me so. You hurt me so. I actually do care about the art. I I actually am in it for the art. That's why I hold a bunch of stuff to zero because I actually do like some of the art. But that's just me. That is literally just me, I guess.
[1:21:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. I'm with you on the clay thing. I absolutely love the clay thing in Majiki collection, and it looks like we're about to just slowly go to one or zero.
[1:22:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I have to bring this up, Samar. So we remember these same conversations in the bear market in '22 when it came to NFTs. Right? Because there was that giant massive run, and they'll never come back. You're never gonna be able to mint out. But as soon as we got bull market, we get new people, and it revived the the meta. Right? Now granted, we didn't see the previous highs that we saw for some of these OG collections, but you had new collections that would launch and absolutely absolutely mint out and do very well to the upside. Don't go check them now because they're dead, but... I mean, that's... So I'm I'm of two minds. That's why I asked, I wanted to hear your opinion on it. I I think what what you both have said that I I would, agree with on this point is that people are smarter and the people that are here now are much wiser, you know, even if they're just one cycle pros. Right? Like, they went through the bear market into the bull market or maybe they caught a portion of the bull market. Now they're they're going through the bear market. But, but they they will set the tone for the new people that come in. Go ahead, bro. You don't have to raise your hand.
[1:23:20] Samara @thee_samara: Sir, yeah, another thing I've kind of, like, seen on, you know, on the NFT side is a new chain springs up, and it basically has beta plays of previous chains. Like Robinhood, we had, you know, stock brokers. We had Robinhood machines. We have stackers. When Inkchain had their little twenty four hour run, was basically a base update of everything on Robinhood. We had ink brokers. We had ink machines. It's like, basic... The the artwork, the same thing. So everyone's getting wiser. They're like, bro, we're not gonna basically play the same game we played, you know, on Robinhood here, especially for those who actually lose a lot of money. If you all trade up... Yeah. I prefer trading NFTs because I think that's the more profitable side for me than, you know, holding to Valhalla, basically. So trading, think trade trade will forever, you know, supersedes the the art of just, you know, maintaining and holding for whenever, unless unless you mean means like a stump stump broker. But, again, like, I don't think everyone's kind of, like, optimistic for NFC collections anymore, in my opinion, especially now especially now. Everyone's wiser, to be honest.
[1:24:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: And yet here I am spending heaps of money on NFC collections, collections, and I'm
[1:24:33] Moni @monitalan: not just gotta feel something.
[1:24:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's just to feel something at the end of the day.
[1:24:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Samara, I'm not trading them, though. I'm not selling them. I'm just buying a whole... I'm just scattershotting. And and here's my... And I've I've said this before here, but the main reason why I'll scattershot and just buy whatever whatever is because, one, I don't care. I'm... Like, you'd set that money on fire and and throw it out the window for all I care at this point. I can I can always claim it as losses at the end of the year, and it's not gonna account for much? But still, like, you know, probably in the past six weeks, probably, like, 10 k on mints and collections across various chains. And and I'm not, like, down substantially. I'm probably around breakeven, maybe even a little bit of upside for some runners, a lot of, like, absolute dust. But what I learned last cycle after the big NFT craze in '21, what I learned last cycle is that I I should have been shotgun blasting. And one of the the things that that taught me that was no one thought the ordinals would do anything, and no one would... Was people flooring for less than they than they minted for on free on free collection. So, like, less than the fees that they were paying on Bitcoin's network, they were flooring, entire... Like, you know, they were flooring 30, 40, a 100 pieces of, like, your node monkeys and your your, your, Bitcoin puppets and Opium and, like, all of these OG collections and sub 50 k, sub 100 k. Right? And I I decided, like, I'm gonna take a chance. Why? Because I'm comfortable with Bitcoin. Obviously, I'm running the OARDS protocol on my miners and my nodes. So, like, I was all about it. Like, whatever. Let's let's take a shot on this. It didn't cost much, and the return was thousands and thousands and thousands of percent. And what that taught me was I was only looking at Bitcoin, but then we had all of these other chains that did very similar things. Even though we didn't get the OG massive run-in NFTs in general, it was it was more spread out across various collections, and it was focused on a lot of stuff that was kinda sitting there but was new. People weren't really paying attention and then chain by chain. And I missed the majority of it on other chains. So this time... And maybe I'm making a stupid mistake. I mean, I don't really care. It's just spending. Right? And... But I'm going around and I'm I'm just spending a bunch of money on NFT collections just because, one, I can. Not a lot of people have that luxury. Although, if you're here, you probably... You're you're in a good position. So I don't know. Like, I I I maybe am out of the loop and approaching it as a trade in the longer term, whereas a lot of people are really focused on flipping in the shorter term. I don't know. Maybe my psychology is goofed up.
[1:27:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: And, Landy, I think you you said something very interesting in terms of when you got into the ordinals, a lot of people were selling for less than whatever they spent to buy it. Right? So you're telling me that 10 k ways to die has a chance. I'm kidding.
[1:28:10] Moni @monitalan: Oh my god.
[1:28:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, here's here's the problem with that, Nat, is I'm talking about Ords Protocol just launched. People were screwing around, just kinda trading literal spreadsheets, and I didn't pay attention to it. It wasn't actually till months later that somebody in a Discord group that I was running at the time was like, hey. Ordinals are running. And I'm like, what do you mean Ordinals are running? He's like, oh, there's a marketplace over here, Ordinals wallet. There's a bunch of Ordinals that are running. Oh, and Magic Eden just said they're gonna support... They're they're building out with a focus on Ordinals. And it's like, wait. Wait. Wait. What? We've got marketplaces? What hap... What happened? I literally walked away after, you know, after the January in through March time frame. I walked away, I came back, and things had just blown up. But no one thought that it was going to. I was just like, hey. I like this. It's on Bitcoin. Let's experiment. Let's do this. Hey. There's some artists coming over from Ethereum. There's some artists coming over from here and there and so on and so forth. Let's just give it a shot. Like, I think this is kinda cool. Let's experiment with the the tech, and it turned out to be something really, really big. And and it went through... Ordinals are dead, and then they were back for massive runs all the way until runes kinda had the had the heavy rotation, and then everything started to go down. But we saw the same thing happen across various chains. I don't think that's gonna stop. I really don't. Like, if you take the shotgun approach and you hit even, 5% of the plays and that happens to be some of the ones that Alpha Gamer has been talking about, others that are really hooked in and knowledgeable on it, you you literally have made back your money and then some. So I guess I'd look at it that way, and I don't necessarily look at it on a quote, unquote cook by cook basis. Is that a......
[1:30:08] Voice L: Is chain by chain economics by doing it that way.
[1:30:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:30:12] Voice L: You are learning what chain can do and what... How it works every time you do it. So...
[1:30:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Quick update. Galactic has now changed supply to 3,333.
[1:30:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Welcome back, Dave.
[1:30:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: She probably
[1:30:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: We talked about this.
[1:30:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which she probably... Oh, you did already?
[1:30:30] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah.
[1:30:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, my bad. I was
[1:30:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's all good.
[1:30:32] Voice E: I was
[1:30:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: trying to figure out how do I get Quotrons. I just spent $10 on thinking I could steal and buy a Quotron, but I realized that one Quotron is third... $3,735. So
[1:30:42] Voice M: Oh, okay.
[1:30:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's not gonna happen. That's funny. Yeah. They're at mint price or or they were. They met mint price for the public mint on the Alright.
[1:30:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: We all full send on this now. What's up? Let's go. If
[1:30:54] Voice M: you said, like, I
[1:30:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: need to cook. I may... I could buy fries today.
[1:30:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's too funny. And Ryan... I see Ryan has his hands on.
[1:31:02] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. I just I just came up, and I wanted to let everybody know that I figured out how to order my NFT printing machine from TMU. And they said it will be here in seven to ten days. And I'm... I probably will get my eBay site up tonight on where I'm gonna sell my NFTs. No. I'm just kidding. I'm I'm really just kidding.
[1:31:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: So you
[1:31:27] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: you should have
[1:31:28] Ryan @Rlad1776: your Like, the current... This is Your agent's crazy new
[1:31:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Robins agents. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:31:33] Ryan @Rlad1776: I'm just old. I'm a grunk. Kiss my ass, all of you, and I hope you all make
[1:31:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm hosting billions. Old on
[1:31:40] Ryan @Rlad1776: Billy, I hope we also find I
[1:31:41] Voice E: hope you
[1:31:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: all make billions.
[1:31:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Coins to sell you. Like, Bitcoin, like like, they're beautiful gold Bitcoins. You should definitely buy some of these. But I'll give you a discount, though. Alright. Right.
[1:31:51] Ryan @Rlad1776: Oh, and, Dave, thank you for sending me the CD learning videos that I'm gonna put in my VCR. I just FYI.
[1:32:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: CDs in the VCR. Love that. Love that so much.
[1:32:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: And Well, I got a floppy disk assigned to you.
[1:32:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Lookecoin. It's a new network. It was forked from Bitcoin, so it has Bitcoin roots. It's called Lookecoin. It might be stalled right now. But
[1:32:15] Ryan @Rlad1776: Did he did he really... Did he finally launch?
[1:32:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, no. It stalled.
[1:32:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It stalled.
[1:32:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: We'll see if they do something with it, but it's gonna be hilarious.
[1:32:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can we do something off a playoff of BIP one ten, like a Dick one ten or a DIP... DIT or, like, a DITS
[1:32:32] Ryan @Rlad1776: one ten? Be RIP RIP. Rest in peace, one ten. Like, that's the coin that will get some motion.
[1:32:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: The... You're you're talking about this after the meta is already over, and this is something that Yeah. We we
[1:32:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: gotta still talking about it.
[1:32:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: What what you gotta understand is it's probably gonna bubble back up because they have to get their money back because some of these miners actually tried to mine on that network, and they're never gonna catch up. So they're gonna change the difficulty. When they change the difficulty, they're gonna start mining it, and they're gonna try to find an exchange. And they're gonna probably try to stand up some of
[1:33:07] Ryan @Rlad1776: Oh, yeah. Ocean is definitely going full. Ocean's like ocean's like, I want my money back, baby.
[1:33:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. Ocean Ocean is split. There's... They they all left. They're leaving Ocean. So low... Ocean ocean is done with. But my point behind that is is when when you started talking about launching MemeCoins based on that narrative, there had already been, like, 30 different MemeCoins that were launched and actually did kinda okay. Like, they kinda did okay before they
[1:33:40] Moni @monitalan: They were just like, and
[1:33:41] Ryan @Rlad1776: I had some really good ideas there. Like, if we would've just... Like, if you all would've got behind me, I'd have done it. And and we could've Hey. Could be, like
[1:33:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chill.
[1:33:49] Ryan @Rlad1776: Raging in The Bahamas right now. Like, what are we doing? I had some good names.
[1:33:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: The show is almost cool. Oh, did you?
[1:33:57] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. RIP one ten, BIP RIP one ten, ForkU. Yeah. I had a I had a bunch.
[1:34:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: What if, you know, what if... What is a good one?
[1:34:09] Ryan @Rlad1776: Oh, yeah. What if actually
[1:34:10] Samara @thee_samara: somebody else
[1:34:11] Ryan @Rlad1776: What if made me some money? Just gonna say.
[1:34:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Where's my... Where's where's AMC at right now, and where's this bang? So the bang token I don't know. That I'm still holding.
[1:34:20] Ryan @Rlad1776: I I jumped into the AMC, but, apparently, it's the one that's been flagged for spam. So that money is now lost, I suspect. Apparently, I brought the I brought the wrong one.
[1:34:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Also, guys, when your NFT trader friends start making a little money and they see floor prices go up and then they start shilling you meme coins, don't listen to them either. DocNooNoo started shilling me grand theft alpha yesterday, Solana project from two and a half years ago. Never seen money disappear so fast in my life.
[1:34:52] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I was not chilling I was not chilling that to you. I was just telling you the story.
[1:34:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: It... It's it's going to come back. It's okay. All of the tokens in your bags, specifically your bags, if you can hear this, your bags will pump. Everything is going to go up forever. I found that this is the new tactic. You just tell everybody that it's gonna be okay and everything's bullish, and then you can gain more followers. So
[1:35:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: For real?
[1:35:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And by and by
[1:35:17] Ryan @Rlad1776: the way, Dave, it was... The the the coin to buy was grand theft all your money. Like, that's the one that absolutely ripped. Right.
[1:35:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, almost like when DocNooNoo said, do you feel something bad? She goes, yeah. Feel fucking robbed. Like, I literally just walked down the block. Somebody ripped the fucking gold hoops off my fucking ear.
[1:35:37] Moni @monitalan: That was a true story. DocNooNoo asked me that
[1:35:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: a few nights ago. When when I bought my first my when I bought my my first NFC collection in the trenches, and I decided I'd go to zero as soon as I click buy. She's like, well, did you feel something? I was like, yes, DocNooNoo. I feel robbed, DocNooNoo.
[1:35:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Landy, I also do want you to to to give DocNooNoo the quick... Like, honestly, the real quick version if possible, but she owns an NFT. We we both own these NFT collection. Of course, I sold yesterday for, like, $70. They then rocketed to, like, 4 or $500, now back down to, like, a 150, $200 Mhmm. Where you stake the NFT and its hash power for mining Bitcoin. And they're selling all the holders. I'm like, hey, man. Listen. If we mine a if we mine a coin, if we manage to somehow mine them, like, 1 Bitcoin, it's gonna be 2 BTC to the person that mines it or 1 BTC to the person that mines it, and then the rest is blah blah blah. I'd like for you to... Like, do you have an actual number of the odds of what it would actually take for, like, this to happen?
[1:36:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. We have had mining NFT collections since since before Ordinals ever launched. There's been Bitcoin mining NFT collections all over the place. On chain, specifically inscribed on Ethereum, there was a, I forget the name of the collection years ago. There's a Bitcoin mining collection that, like, you you, you own it, and then you get a percentage of... You know, if there is a a a if there is a reward. Right? So you might not block, you get the reward and the fees, then it would split and get allocated to all the holders of the collection.
[1:37:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: This you you you are trusting that they are going to do what they're saying they're going to do. That's really what you're doing.
[1:37:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. Give her the odds. Like, what are the... Like, how much hash power Oh. Are they competing against for, like,
[1:37:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: one little itty bitty thing.... In 1,000.
[1:37:34] Voice L: It's a speck in the it's a speck in the field anyway. Yeah.
[1:37:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, we're One in 1,000. At, like, one Zetta hash, so good luck.
[1:37:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: That even peta hash. Wait. Is peta... Is that a greater than peta?
[1:37:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Peta x and then zeta.
[1:37:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, see? I don't even know. I don't even know.
[1:37:52] Voice L: Yeah. But you're, like, two up and...
[1:37:55] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yeah. Dave Dave, you don't wanna be the... You don't wanna be a peta. Just saying.
[1:37:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, that's fair. I definitely don't wanna be a petta, but you know what this means, Anup? Your shit's gonna moon now. So just get ready. Put some sell orders in higher. It's gonna fucking cook. Well well Because, again, like we said before, you confuse everybody, and at the end of the day, oh my god. This shit...
[1:38:13] Voice M: Shit's gonna
[1:38:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: go. Ponzinomics. I have it written down. Ponzinomics. So this this line's up. This line's up.
[1:38:18] Ryan @Rlad1776: So, Nat, on that point, how many times do you think the same, like, I don't know, $300,000,000 has changed hands over the last, like, I don't know, two and a half years? Because it's the same money. It's just changing hands. Right?
[1:38:39] Moni @monitalan: Probably, you know, too many to count, but I...
[1:38:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Quite a few quite a few.
[1:38:43] Ryan @Rlad1776: Yep. And we all feel robbed.
[1:38:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I'm just... I actually... I I wanted to give you some odds because I'm I'm logging into my dashboard for our off grid mining.
[1:38:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're listening?
[1:39:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: So right now, we're we're waiting to stand up a a few more, but we have four forty foot, containers that are doing off grid mining, which is basically... I'm essentially mining with free power, which is... Means that I can mine Bitcoin for a very, very low cost. So we're looking at
[1:39:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: we're looking at
[1:39:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: we're What's the definition real quick?
[1:39:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: We're we're looking at,
[1:39:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: we're at about... Okay. So, no, we we did stand up the rest of the, off grid. So we're we're at... Oh my god. We're actually way bigger than I thought we were. Wow. Anyway, so... Yeah. We're we're she said. Yeah. Exactly. That is what she said. So given,
[1:40:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: we're we're probably at... How many petahash is this cooking right now?
[1:40:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Why do I feel like is a distraction? I'm regretting.
[1:40:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm regretting everything. Petahash on on on
[1:40:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: And how much is one end... With one staked NFT? How much hash power does... Or maybe eight... Let's just say the whole collection gets there. How much do 888 NFTs, how much hash power could they potentially produce?
[1:40:29] Voice L: And how Not a lot. I'm gonna say not a lot. Yeah. Thank you.
[1:40:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm... What
[1:40:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're they're gonna be like
[1:40:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: How does that work, by the way?
[1:40:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're probably in the... Does that actually work? So that's probably like, you know, like a a... You're probably at, like, maybe they've got a couple miners. Like, they got 200 Terra Hash.
[1:40:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: But are they are they taking the fee... Essentially, so the Ponzinomics that stock brokers and everybody else and Flywheels that they're using, these guys are taking the NFT fees and putting that into buying or renting Hashpower.
[1:40:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're renting Hashpower.
[1:41:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is that...
[1:41:00] Voice E: They're they're
[1:41:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: they're... From the fees. Okay. Got it.
[1:41:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Probably not even from the fees. From the initial mint, they're probably... Or...
[1:41:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that's right. Because it
[1:41:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: was a
[1:41:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: $12 mint. Right? Yes.
[1:41:09] Voice L: It depends. There's a number of things to consider here when you look at this. Think about if they're doing it as a one off to mine their own blocks or if they're going into a share pool to get a guaranteed payout.
[1:41:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. They have to be doing their own. It's their own individual miner. They have to be because...
[1:41:27] Voice L: No. But you can you can mine to a mining pool.
[1:41:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I know. I know. I know that. But they're they're saying they're saying if we if we mine a block, then the the NFT that act... I don't know how they can how they can narrow it down to an actual NFT. This sounds like more and more fuck... Frigging... Sorry, Nat.
[1:41:43] Voice E: So they
[1:41:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: have a flywheel. Talk about it. Exactly.
[1:41:46] Ryan @Rlad1776: Have a flywheel. Right.
[1:41:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: That... That's a buy signal. That's a buy signal. That is a buy signal.
[1:41:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. It's on the list. Ponzinomics flywheel.
[1:41:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Get it. Get it. Anybody says flywheel goop.
[1:41:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: They they might be able to hit, a block. Like, we're we're running s 23 hydros, So I just I just messaged him because the dashboard doesn't seem fully up. Because we should be... When we're fully operational, we're pushing about 50 x a hash, which, by the way, is is fairly recent because we expanded operations throughout the bull run. And a lot of that was because, and and and a lot of the equipment buys were in 2025 because it was cost neutral to do so in The United States. So we loaded up, and and a lot of our money is in, the actual equipment itself. But, you know, you're looking at... I mean, they would have to rent quite a lot to hit a block. It... But their their odds go up the more hash power that they're renting. But they're likely in the Terahash territory. Maybe maybe if they got enough money, they can get into renting in the Petahash territory, which I think it's probably for an NFT collection on what Robinhood? Probably not. You're probably looking at maybe some some s 20 ones or something that, that they're being rented out in terms of aggregate hash power. So maybe. So what do you... If you had to
[1:43:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: put a number on the odds, what would that number be?
[1:43:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I have... I don't even know, Nat. I did, like
[1:43:18] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I did my own I did my own research, and it said, like, it will take twenty to thirty years with, like, even average hash power to to mine a Bitcoin.
[1:43:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, do you know how much petahash they're pushing or or or terahash they're pushing?
[1:43:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: How could they... How would they be pushing this, though? Right? Like, if for an NFT mint, like, make it make sense to me. Connect the dots for me
[1:43:40] Ryan @Rlad1776: because I'm getting on here is buying these things like they're going out of style that's out.
[1:43:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Being seer... I'm being serious, Landy. Connect the dots for me because I actually really do want to try and understand, is this full on nonsense, like, all of it? But you're saying they could be pushing this amount of, like, Hash Power, but
[1:43:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: You would need to know. You would need to know because it costs a lot of money. Yeah. It costs a lot of money to rent.
[1:44:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: And
[1:44:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: I and I highly doubt unless they're already are an established mining operation that's offering NFTs. Like, there's a there's a few mining operations that offer NFTs. In fact, they're on Bitcoin's main chain.
[1:44:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you familiar with base nouns? That... That's who their their base mining co is what they're called?
[1:44:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's a few others as well, like, mining ops. Yeah. And and, essentially, what they do is they sell you the NFT, and it represents a certain amount of hash rate. And then you can buy, you know, add ons essentially or other NFTs that are, you know, increasing your hash rate. This has been done hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times over.
[1:44:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't know. You would have to find out what they've said they're pushing in terms of hash rate to really figure out the odds. Like, I I have no basis for even understanding. Like, they could have just one s 21 that they're renting out. Right? And that means that they're maybe pushing anywhere from 130, depending on the model, to 200 terahash. And that's
[1:45:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: But how does the NFT fit into this picture? For a $12 mint for 888, you maybe made $10 on a mint out. If they're already doing this, like, how does this make any sense?
[1:45:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Maybe you got it all because you're probably gonna... Not gonna hit any kind of a block. It's gonna be tough.
[1:45:22] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That's what I'm saying.
[1:45:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's gonna be tough. But it's not...
[1:45:25] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I don't think it's supposed to make sense. Like, that's the whole point. NFTD gens are not asking if the math's math's, like
[1:45:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah.
[1:45:32] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: If the math adds up....
[1:45:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Off the list. You know, think I feel like the They're trading the network. Model that's making sense is what ParasitePool is doing with the OMBs and the Bravacados. I mean, collect that. Said Woah. Don't get all Bitcoin on
[1:45:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: a trade
[1:45:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: dog now. Don't you dare take it down this fucking But he's right. I mean, that's the only one that actually makes sense in my opinion.
[1:45:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: And even then, it's very... It's gonna be tough. Right? But they are... They have hit blocks. Like, they can prove that they can hit blocks because they have substantial enough hash rate.
[1:46:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landon, do you remember that run? There were... I don't know how long ago it was. Maybe a year ago where there was, like, three different, like, individual miners that, like, mined blocks over the course of, like, one month. And we were like, holy shit. It was like something crazy. Like, we've... It was something never seen before. Like, they don't... Like, I... Yes. Individual miners do get lucky sometimes. Right? Like, they absolutely do. But for something like this, I guess, is what I'm trying to understand is, like, I can't I can't reconcile the dollars, and I can't understand how the mint and the NFT is connected to the hash power.
[1:46:33] Voice M: That's maybe where my brain is
[1:46:34] Ryan @Rlad1776: far off. It's not, Dave. It's square in the circle. Right? Like, that's the the the endgame that they're pitching, but the reality is is, like It
[1:46:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: depends on
[1:46:43] Ryan @Rlad1776: the that... That's how they close the loop. But it really isn't shit.
[1:46:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I I would just wanna give you a comparison. So four forty foot containers. So he just messaged me back. Yeah. The dashboard is still updating because we're still bringing, rigs online. Top end, peak performance, we're probably gonna come in at point seven
[1:47:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: to to point nine exahash off the four containers that we just put down. And that is... But you gotta remember, these are... We're part of a pool. So, like, if you're part of a pool, you will get a portion of payout based on the contribution of hash rate that you get. Right? So, like, we're profitable on that site even though we're not, you know, because we're not solo mining it. We're part of a pool. Even if it was our own pool, we could still see... Be seen as a solo, but there's a whole bit of different ways that you could do a template. Either way, point being is they're probably gonna rent and put it in a pool, and then you have to generate some sort of an income back to trickle down, and you can actually make something work at a $12 mint, but it's gonna be minuscule. It's gonna be minuscule. There's no way that $888, maybe $10,000 you're bringing in with fees off of a mining mint NFT that that you're gonna guarantee that that people are gonna get some sort of reward back. It's gonna be incredibly difficult to do. Like, that's just not enough money. There's not enough hash. Like, even to buy a used miner yourself, in which case you're contributing, you're gonna get barely... You're gonna get, like, 30 to $40 back a month, like, maybe. Like Yeah.
[1:48:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: So this is this is what Nuritan just put in the chat. Listen what they say. Going forward, proceeds from agent x four zero two payments to the pool we used to buy back m I n r, Miner. I guess they have a token too. To be clear what we are, Base Mining Co is a Bitcoin mining pool first. Miner is not a meme coin. We aren't here to pump a token, and we are not focused on market cap or NFT floor prices. That was never the point. We're here for the long haul, blah blah blah blah blah. That said, we've now established ourselves as the first pool to welcome AI agents, and we think the... That matters more than most people realize. Where the agentic economy is heading, x four two... Alright. It gives you stats. If agents get anywhere close to that, agent mining stops being a novelty. Agents that agents that earned need somewhere to put their compute and their capital.
[1:49:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're using banker art.
[1:49:14] Voice L: Yeah. I'm trying trying to understand how an AI agent would in would infect the... Yeah.
[1:49:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's kinda like you guys know how...
[1:49:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Right. That's lot of...
[1:49:22] Voice L: It's not. It's not the perfect planning power.
[1:49:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: But you guys know how Tau works. Right? Like, BitTensor is... That's essentially what BitTensor is. Right? Like, you have all these different subnets and it's essentially a... Yeah. Agreed. But I guess what I'm trying to understand is, is this, like, the BitTensor... The Fugazy or Bootleg or whatever version of BitTensor, like on... I'm Fugazy or Fugazy Fugazy. Fugazy. Fugazy.
[1:49:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So this is... They... They're they're doing... Basically, they're they're trying to aggregate hash power. Likely, they already have some rented hash power, but they're trying to aggregate hash power from home miners, which is basically all your lottery miners that are pushing Gigahash. Maybe you get some that are pushing some exahashes, you know, some old s seventeens, s nineteens that are in the exahash territory.
[1:50:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: And it's banker, so I take it with a grain of salt also, bro.
[1:50:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So it's banker based. It is banker based. Okay.
[1:50:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: So 100%.
[1:50:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So, look. They're they're they're trying to do something, I think, at least narrative wise. I would love to see the hash rate statistics because then you can actually gauge the real value being paid back to NFT holders. And and, you know, the the other elements that they might be adding into this because they've got a Beam coin. They've got the NFT. They've got the the AI thing. Looks like they're just trying to mash all the metas together and back it with Bitcoin mining as an as an addition. Right? It it doesn't even... I I get that it's buying Bitcoin hybrid lottery pool. A hybrid lottery pool means that they're not pushing very much hash rate. So if they do happen to hit a block, awesome. You just scored, and that is the risk. Right? So... But at $12, who the hell cares? Who cares? Like, literally, who cares? It's $12. What are you gonna spend that on? You can all... And we can all lose a few pounds. Alright? So spend $12. If they hit and they end up paying out, you know, a a Bitcoin to all the holders of that and there's only a limited collection, great. That's awesome. But this... It's literally branded as lottery money. So this tells you they're they're in, like, they're in the Gigahash, maybe pushing Terahash territory, if that.
[1:51:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. No. Go ahead. And then we and then we gotta wrap up. That's gotta go.
[1:51:43] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. No. Sorry. I was gonna say, like, I just saw Goyabin, who's actually the founder of base mining or the head blocks.
[1:51:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, he's here. Oh, is
[1:51:51] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: it... Was it you? I was thinking how did he know we were talking about them?
[1:51:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. That's amazing. I said, yo, Goyabin, pull up if you have a second. I would love to hear... Goybin, you have a sec, bro, please come on up. I would love to... Would genuinely love to hear how this whole thing is working. Also from a salty former NFT holder that sold at 70, 80, and $90, And my esteemed colleague here is still holding, and these things seem to be mooning. So I'm trying to just connect the dots, and we genuinely, like, want to learn. So, Govind, I don't know if you have a second. If you do, that'd be amazing for you to come up. I shot you a mic. If not, let's maybe get in the DMs, and maybe you can come through to another episode tomorrow. We do this Monday through Thursday anyway. So... Yeah.
[1:52:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: I wanted to say this real quick, Dave. It's right in the title, like lottery mining built for next generation home miners. Like, it's right there. So now I have a better understanding of what it is. And... Look. That's... We've seen even little bit access hit some blocks. It's rare, but they do as solo miners. But if you start building out a pool... We've had different pools with solo miners attached that have had a a good go of it. And you wanna know what meta just died? BIP one ten. And you know where a lot of solo miners are pointing their hash? They're pointing it at,
[1:53:10] Ryan @Rlad1776: at At LOOKIN.
[1:53:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. At Ocean. So I think that that, you know, this could... For for holders, you know, if it hits, it hits. That's great. And there's a... It seems like there's a lot of diversity here. So, like, it's not just a mining NFT like the old days. That's what I was looking
[1:53:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, let's see. Yeah. Let's let's talk to Goybian. Goybian, what's up, man? Thank you so much for coming through, dude. Yeah. Yeah. He's here. Appreciate you coming through, dude. Thank you. Thank you. We're we're looking to learn a little bit more about about hood block, man. Can you give us the quick and the dirty and the simple for for for for dummies version if you don't mind?
[1:53:41] Voice E: Hey. GM GM, everybody. Thanks for having me up. No. I just... I was just, like, scrolling the timeline, and I saw somebody tag me and said, come through. So I just jumped in, and I heard, like, the the end of Randy's comments there. Yeah. And and and, I mean, he had it he had it correct. Yeah. It's it's so pretty much on on the base mining pool, like, it's it's only been running, like, three months now or so. Pretty much the model is, if anyone's familiar with Parasite, I'm doing pretty much the same thing as Parasite. I mean, I've been mining since day one with Parasite. I was watching them. As soon as they had some success, I was like, you know what? Like, why don't why don't I spread this and bring this over to, like, EVM network where I could even do more things with it than than, you know, most, like, Bitcoin have have access to or can accomplish at this time anyway, such as, like, AI agents. You know? So I was, like, chatting with the banker team, different... I I... I've been on base since Testnet and have had projects on on base since day one, and I have, like, a small community already. So I was like, you know what? Maybe I can introduce these guys to Bitcoin mining. Some of them might get it. If not, I said, you know, like, a lot of people, what I learned was a lot of these people, like, have no idea that they... That, like, that they could mine. Like, they think that it costs, you know, tons and tons of money to to join us, like, a lottery miner. So I started to introduce people, then I said, you know what? Like, maybe maybe an easy way to get guys onboarded would just to be making NFT. You know, this is something that they understand. They could easily rent an NFT. They clock in at the monthly block party. I mean, I mean, they don't have to do anything, actually. I mean, they just... We'll see their NFT activate during the monthly block party, and it starts hashing. And then all their power gets recorded. And if when someone finds a block, then they'll receive a payout according to, like, their their contribution to the overall pool.
[1:55:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: So so so dumb it down for me. Right? So, like, in order to essentially, like, contribute hash power, you need to be actively mining. Right? So when you say you're doing the same thing as Parasite, how to connect the dots from the the proceeds from the NFT sale, right, the money that... Because you have to spend money to essentially rent, right, like, that hash power. Where is the money coming from? Is it the mint proceeds? Is it the fee?
[1:56:08] Voice E: Is it
[1:56:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: the secondary? How does it how does it work? Yeah.
[1:56:11] Voice E: Exact... Exactly. You see, so so so, like, the hood box is just another collection on top of what we are... We were already doing. So when I first started, I I just had, like, open editions on base. And and, like, you can go on open editions, and those are pretty much locked in. Like, if it says twenty four hours, five p h you're getting, I mean, that's what you're gonna get. So then I I dropped the collection on l one to raise funds for more hash power for the next block party, and those are more like a like lottery. I mean, most of the most of the funds do go to to renting the actual hash power. So I have, like, agents... My agents who will actually place the rentals. And the same thing, like, on the hood box, like, the... It's... It'll be more like a lottery. Like, say, you could buy three, and you're gonna see all three of them are gonna have, like, a different amount of hash power and a different amount of time. But but I am trying to get them, like... They will all be within the block party. You know what I mean? Like, so the block party will run for twenty four hours, but I really try to, like, press it so that it's, like, all concentrated within, like, a six hour block.
[1:57:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it. And does that money... How long does that money last? Like, the mint proceeds, how long are you able to essentially mine? And what kind of opportunity? Like, what are the odds of actually mining a block of Bitcoin? Right? Because, obviously, like, these, you know, the the... These mining pools is... You see them mining every single block. And, yeah, we've seen individuals, you know, like, individual nodes, like like, mine some blocks or validators rather. But what are the odds of actually, like, mining a block?
[1:57:42] Voice E: Yeah. So, I mean, like, we actually have a calculator on on the site. It all depends on how much power you're pushing. But then again, you know, like, it is a lottery. You know, we've seen many people just put a sit... With a single bid act sit this year. But another thing, like, that... Like, there... There's another project on Bitcoin called Wrigley, and they've been throwing, like, weekly block points. And they actually just hit their first block recently, and it took them, like, 20 something attempts, 20 something weekends to hit. And I think when they hit, they only had, like, a few 100 PH, like, running at the time. Like, our our last block party, we actually had a few 100. This time will be triple what we what we had last time. Oh, interesting.
[1:58:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it.
[1:58:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: So right now, the current hash rate you guys are sitting at, is this accurate, or is there a place I can pull ups, pull statistics? Because you're just shy of a peta hash right now. Right?
[1:58:41] Voice E: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's... It's accurate. Okay. Okay.
[1:58:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: So... Yeah.
[1:58:45] Voice E: Yeah. So, like like, slowly, I mean, we've been we've been onboarding some people. You know? Even, like, even, like, my project, like, the DAO I started on base, like, the DAO use a bunch of money to buy, like, a a bunch of home miners. And we have, like, different community members running home miners. Like, slowly, I'm onboarding them. But right now, I mean, the focus is the monthly blackboard. So just throw, like, a whole bunch of power, like, altogether. Yes.
[1:59:10] Voice L: That's how I get it. I I like that, actually. So you you can actually run. You can prop up your per hash with HomeMiner's button into your PERL, basically. Did they go... How does that work in
[1:59:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: terms of
[1:59:24] Voice L: payout down...
[1:59:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Let let him finish the explanation. Okay. Keep going. Sorry.
[1:59:27] Voice L: Yeah. I'll go
[1:59:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: ahead. Yeah. Let him finish that.
[1:59:28] Voice E: I'm sorry. Missed that. What what what?
[1:59:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Keep keep going with your explanation. Keep going with your explanation. Sorry.
[1:59:35] Voice E: No. No. I think I had it there, but, like... Yeah. Like, I like I was saying, I mean, right now, the focus is just to, you know, run the the the monthly block parties. So we do have a, like, good odds and throw a whole bunch of power at one point, but slowly, we are onboarding more and more home miners, like, slowly but surely. You know? And I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure after we hit our first block with, we'll we'll see a huge influx. I thought I... Like like like with Parasite, another... Again, another great example is, like, when I was in there, I mean, there might have been 1,200 miners or something. After they hit that first block, then they had several thousand, and then they hit four more blocks after that this year. You know? But like I said, I mean... And and there's, like, there's a lot of different things we could do here. So, like, even, like, speaking with the banker team, like, I... If these people like Brian Armstrong are right and this agentic economy, like, keeps growing and growing, then we we could see a time when agents are all swarming together and actually becoming a competitor, and it's not just a novelty anymore. You know? If you have a million agents all swarming together and, like, pointing power at the same time, it's not a joke anymore. You know?
[2:00:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Isn't that BitTensor at at the end of the day? I mean, isn't that roughly kinda like what BitTensor is in a way? Like, do you guys... Yeah.
[2:00:57] Voice E: Similar. Yeah. So, yeah, this this month, I'm definitely cooking up with them. We're gonna we're gonna, like, do a lot more, like, adding different layers to the authentic model, making it easier for them, making... For the access, getting getting the words spread around with the agents, so to speak. They made that... That's just that's just one more that's just one more entry point. You know what I mean? Like, so, you know, we could use NFTs. We could use agents. We could use homeowners. Like, I'm just gonna keep on building this thing.
[2:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. So let me ask a question. So why 888? Wouldn't it make more sense to issue... Like, I feel like this would be the perfect... Like, I... We all talk about supply all the time, but, like, isn't this the perfect kind of project to do 5,000 or 10,000 or or or whatever?
[2:01:42] Voice E: Well, I... Actually actually, like, the the art that we have for the for the block, this was... Actually, I see you have an On Hoodie. It's... Actually, the founder of On Train Hoodie and myself worked on the art behind this project together. And, I mean, it it was kinda limited. And I didn't even... We had, like, 3,000 collection or whatever, and I had only put eight eighty eight on layer one. And then, you know, the... I put another 88 over here. But I I am thinking... And, you know, like, the little community we have, we were thinking about some different type of things like like, say, a token that we could use. Now that we have a token out there, maybe we could do things like your token, you could burn some tokens and reactivate for, like, hash power in next month's black... Block party. You know, there... There's, like, there's a lot of cool stuff we could do here.
[2:02:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: But... So then... So... Okay. So make that make sense to me. So how does me burning a token contribute... Like, you're saying reactivate it for more Hash Power? How does me burning money contribute to you spending more money to get more Hash Power?
[2:02:43] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You see what I'm saying?
[2:02:45] Voice E: Instead of you spending your dollars or or your or your Bitcoin, it it it might be cheaper if you're if you're grabbing a a a meme coin. You know what I mean?
[2:02:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: I guess. I don't, but I guess. Alright. Last question, and then Natalie has to go. We have to close-up. But... So do you... You said you have another collection on on Ethel one. Like, if you if you could launch other collections in different chain... Right? So Arc is launching, let's just say, in a couple weeks. Are you gonna launch on Arc, and does that dilute the NFT holders here, or is it the same pool?
[2:03:17] Voice E: It's a possibility. Who knows? You know? Like, I I maybe the more the more places we spread, the more people we onboard. But, like, at the end of the day, I... It's not really gonna dilute it so much as long as, like, hit a block sometime soon. You know what I mean? Because, like, after the block hits, like, everybody's everybody's stats are refreshing. Their payouts go back to zero. You know what I mean? So you have to get back in the pool and mine again after we hit that first block. So as more time passes, like, your payout that you would get from, say, Hoodbox this month, as time goes on, that payout is is obviously gonna go down.
[2:03:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. No. Go ahead.
[2:03:54] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. Sorry, Goibin. Quick question. So I have, like, I have 30 HUD blocks and they're staked. Am I supposed to be doing something with them, or do I just chill?
[2:04:03] Voice E: No. No. No. No. It's just... That's it. That's just a a little added bonus for the community members. I mean, you can go in there and and, you know, just make your claims and just pull out some micro strategy stunk and some rapese. See, that's it. That that was another reason for dropping the meme coin. Just to add, like, an added added layer just to give back to the community while we're trying to hit a block.
[2:04:28] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Thank you.
[2:04:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Interesting.
[2:04:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'd love to I would love to pick your brain a little bit more because I'm actually an off grid miner myself. Nice. And I was just telling, Dave was asking me about it and, like, you know, we're we're pushing... We have four... We just... We we were moving operations to a new site because we do flare gas. And, we just dropped four of our containers there, and we're we're pushing just shy of a... Of an exahash. And and, you know, I've always been very interested in innovative ways to, encourage people putting hash on the network. So love to have you come back someday and maybe can arrange that with, Dave in that.
[2:05:16] Voice E: Hey. My DMs are always open, and I I... I'm also a long time Bitcoin pocket holder as well. So feel free to reach out.
[2:05:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hell, yeah. Alright. Sounds good, Will.
[2:05:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's the craziest thing you could have said right now. We don't need another one of these fucking... This crazy guy. Goybean, thank you, man. Really, really appreciate you swinging by. And, yeah, man, thanks for thanks for coming by and clarifying some stuff. You know, DocNooNoo now is one of your probably, you know, one of your top holders, and, you know, DocNooNoo, don't forget to spread the wealth for the rest of us when you become a gazillionaire when freaking... This this this insanity actually mines a block of Bitcoin and prove us all wrong out here.
[2:05:50] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: No. I will just remind you that you could have minted 88 at point o $8.08 when we're rich.
[2:05:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, god.
[2:05:58] Voice E: Thank guys. Thank you, guys.
[2:05:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So I mean, real quick, you know why she said she minted 30 of them? Said, why'd you mint 30? She goes, I just wanted to feel something. And we're like, there it is. There it is. I'm a appreciate it, bro. Thank you, man. Thank you for coming by, bro. Thank you. Thank you. Good stuff, guys. Natalie, bible study it is. I got dinner time. Let's go. Shout out to cool down there. I see cool. Natalie might be at bible study already. Oh my god. We might be screwed, guys. Natalie, are you there? Oh, you guys messed up now. You messed up now.
[2:06:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Welcome to the mining show. Let's talk about Luke Coin coming up. I got a whole bunch of solo miners that are gonna be peeling up.
[2:06:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's a free for all.
[2:06:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's just drop tickers.
[2:06:42] Voice M: Come on.
[2:06:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Let's go shut it down right there.
[2:06:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Look. Listen.
[2:06:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: When when when I see... I I do have to say seeing is I don't I don't actually think that is there. When I when I see stuff like this, first off, when when DocNooNoo and Dave were trying to explain to me what this was, I was like, what are you talking about? Like, where's the where's the pool? Where's the where's the hash rate? Where is all these things? And, like, nobody really knew. And then finally, I I went and found it. And then, of course, you came here, and I and I took a look myself. Like, this is actually... I like this setup, you know, to... And and Dave. Like, this is this is a a cool innovative way to do it, and it's actually, it's encouraging solo mining, more importantly. I've talked about Bitaxe miners for a long time here when they were tiny, when nobody was paying attention. They're ripping ASICs off those and putting them on single board computers when they still had just one, one ASIC on the... On those little bit access. Now people are making four stackers and all kinds of cool stuff.
[2:07:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But I think Matt Matt said you had twelve minutes after she left.
[2:07:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. We already... We've been there already.
[2:07:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: We
[2:07:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: checked in with her. Jesus didn't wait for bible study, obviously. Jesus is for everyone, but apparently not for the late or the tardy.
[2:08:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. No. No. Jesus Jesus waits for no one. You're either there or you're not.
[2:08:10] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: So, Lanby, are you gonna come are you gonna come play with us with hoodlots?
[2:08:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: I have to... You know, I've got a... I've probably got a couple of solo miners sitting around the house somewhere. I gotta dig dig some out, and I can throw some hash in that pool. Probably probably a good maybe 50 or 60 gigahash. And then I've maybe...
[2:08:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Show off.
[2:08:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, that's that's tiny, bro. That's like nothing. But it does... It adds up. Right? The more you get, the merrier. And and one of the bigger initiatives that I was pushing for a very long time during the bear market last cycle and through the bull market is pay attention to what solo mining is is doing because that is going to be the future at some point. Off grid and solo mining is going to support a very vast amount of hash on the network the longer that time goes on, especially when you have a lot of publicly traded miners are moving towards AI. Right? We obviously have the larger pools, but at at at a certain point in time, maybe in the far flung future, we will have ASIC small enough to be an IoT devices that you can... You know, that are Bitcoin compatible IoT devices that will just sit there and generate hash. But when you get them, what's gonna end up happening is it's gonna point to whatever pool the manufacturer of that IoT device is pointing towards. Right? And a lot of that is gonna be fee generation at some point in time. We're talking about far from future, but these are things that that are interesting that are happening now, and solo mining is is really big. What was the, I have I have two of them. I had to take them down. I can't think of the name of the solo miners that push a couple Terahash, the little, full nodes that push Terahash. The guy I just... I I was just celebrating... Oh, the Apollo. The Apollo miners. You can start getting those guys. You start getting not just Gigash, but you're getting, you know, Terahash. Getting eight to 10 Terahash out of some of those. Right? And those are really cool. Like... And they're they're very popular, and they're actually... You know, at one point, they were pretty economic, economically,
[2:10:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I I I should say, with where the difficulty on the network was. So... And I think they still are. I think they're viable, even some of the Apollo ones. Yeah. These these are these are cool innovative ways, And and bringing it off of Bitcoin to other networks was something that I always thought was a good good way to do it, whether it's NFTs, tokens, or some some way in order to get people in because then the more that... The more funding that you can get, the more fee generation that you can get, the more hash power you can get to reward those who are already mining and those who have contributed on the economic side through NFTs or tokens in order to rent the hash rate to hit the block, then you get to pay everybody out, reinvest in the project, and then begin anew. And that's that's a really cool way. So the more you diversify, the better odds you have to to keep bringing in revenue to supplement the already existing pool's hash rate with extra boost of hash rate. So I've always enjoyed those. I thought they were cool. And I'd like to see more. I'd like to see bigger. Like, quite being referenced to a parasite pool. I I like what they're doing. I like what he's doing. So it's good stuff.
[2:11:54] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: But is that a yes?
[2:11:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's a yeah. No. This gets a yes. This... You ask
[2:11:59] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: make sure I send you the open seat.
[2:12:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: The right puppet. Yeah. Ask the right puppet at the right time. That... I I would I would say you you made a good decision, Nuna.
[2:12:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah.
[2:12:09] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Let's fucking go.
[2:12:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then go get you a Bittrex. You can throw it in the pool. You know? It's it's gonna be, you know...
[2:12:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: When when DocNooNoo said, you're gonna come play in... With hood blocks with us. It makes me feel like I'm in kindergarten. And, like, literally, like, remember, like, the wooden blocks? Like, hey. We're gonna call these hood blocks. And it's just, like, I picture, like, Landy and his puppet and DocNooNoo and her PFP being like, literally just stacking fucking blocks of idiots.
[2:12:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's true. And and just templating out... Just being DocNooNoo templating blocks on the Bitcoin network. I mean, I already do, but...
[2:12:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Look. I I think it's fun, innovative stuff, and it's it's like, you know, we we talk about utility. You actually get a chance to to actually see something really, really awesome happen. Like you said, when you hit a block, holy crap. Like, everybody's gonna go wild.
[2:12:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: You see? You see? When I
[2:13:01] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: said I wanted to feel something, this is what I meant. This is exciting. Like, I don't get any of it. I'm not, like, I don't know. Hash... Peta hash, whatever these terms are. But, like, yeah, it's nice to see something different. And I feel like Robinhood's really brought that innovation out in people, so I'm here for the innovation.
[2:13:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let's let's look at it this way. So say you start pushing into the exahash territory in the pool. You're you're looking at, like, one in... Like, it depends on what the difficulty rate is, but, like, one in eight hundred to one in a thousand chance, which are really good odds.
[2:13:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Goibin brought it up, I brought it up earlier. We've seen solo mining bid axes, multiple times hit blocks, which is wild because the the the astronaut... That that is literally, like, winning the lottery. But that's why it's called lottery mining. You're literally just... You know? Even little nerd miners, people like little 30... Well, they used to be, like, $30. I imagine they're more now. But even little nerd miners, could... You know? Never seen one hit a block, but, you know, it's it's it's a good... It's good for learning. It's good for... You know, if you do end up as one of the lucky ones. But it... More importantly, if you can push into a pool that is a smaller pool, you have much better odds if the pool hits that you're gonna get a larger payout with... You know, weighted towards what hash you're contributing, but still, you're contributing as part of a smaller overall pool size. So, you know, it... It's... It can be cool. I I I have no mums...
[2:14:37] Voice L: Toughest find the network end of the day. It's a good thing.
[2:14:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's cool. You start getting into, like, the 200 extra hash area, you're in, you know, on a on a solo block. You have one in five chance to hit a block, one in 10 chance. It's it's tough, though. It's tough for Owen on the network. It's... We're... We... We've been bouncing around one set of hash for a while. We saw exponential growth on the network. But...
[2:15:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: How many blocks have you mined? How many blocks have you mined in your entire Bitcoin career?
[2:15:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm gonna reserve the right to not answer that question, but let's say a lot.
[2:15:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, like, in... And was it a solo miner
[2:15:22] Voice M: No.
[2:15:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Part of, like No.
[2:15:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Was part of a larger pool. Well, off grid... Even our off grid mining ops. Like, we're... Let's say, on a good day with difficulty playing nicely, we've... You know, and we're we're probably pushing. With four forty foot containers off grid, you're... You get around, depending on what's loaded into it, point seven to just shy of one, exahash. And if you're pushing a bunch of terahash, you know, your your your terahash is gonna be way lower odds. Right? But you're pushing, you know, some of the newer miners that we just loaded up, you know, over... Well well over, you know, the 300 to 400 terahash per miner, and they're all loaded up in in these big 40 foot containers. So, you know, when when we're fully distributed and the pool we're contributing to, we're we're hitting lots of blocks as a pool. Let's put it that way. We've hit lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of blocks as a pool. Maybe that may give you a clue if you go look at the network on which pool I'm mining with.
[2:16:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Fair enough. I'll take my pick of the... Of all
[2:16:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: of them. It's it's not it's not hard to pick. Right. You could reference the American flag in the background if you'd like to really know.
[2:16:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, fair enough. I I I need to pay attention. Goya Goya, I don't know if you're still here, but I had a question for you. So have you mined a block? I know you said you launched a collection on Ethel One a while ago. Have you ever mined a block using... With that collection?
[2:17:02] Voice E: No. No. No. We haven't mined a block yet. Like I said, I did... We just passed, like, ninety days or so that we've been around and, yeah, just slowly slowly getting bigger each month. Now that I'm here, doc, by the way, if we do hit a block, I have a machine. I'll send you a physical rate. I'll make a promise right now. Thank you for supporting.
[2:17:24] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Don't know what that is, but... Yeah. Thanks. Thank you. Dave, can you translate?
[2:17:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do you know
[2:17:30] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: what he said?
[2:17:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: He said he's essentially gonna send you a Bitcoin miner that you can essentially run-in your house so that you can start contributing your own Yep. Hash power, essentially. He's gonna send you a rig, meaning a miner.
[2:17:40] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Oh my god. I feel so smart after this space. Thank you, Gloving.
[2:17:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: If you've got if you got some extra money laying around, you'd like to, get involved in off grid mining and you wanna expand to, like, five five forty foot containers, you're starting to get into ex hash territory where you have a really good chance where you could even solo... You could solo a block. It's gonna take
[2:18:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: a while. You not launching an NFT collection? Then what the hell? Your shit would have a a much better chance. We could acquire Goya bean and hood blocks for, like, peanuts on the dollar, for, like, pennies on the dollar, bro.
[2:18:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because we've got... It's... Look. We're investors. Right?
[2:18:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. That's fine. Let me run the NFT program. We don't gotta be... We'll keep a safe distance. Don't worry about nothing.
[2:18:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: We're investing. I'll take care of everything. It's part of a larger investment group that happens to be mine, and we've been doing this since 2015. I mean, like, we just happen to have been around for a long time. But Why?
[2:18:35] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: We get cheaper, Andre.
[2:18:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: We we have we have... Let's just say that we have experimented with Ethereum NFTs a very long time ago before NFTs became the meta because we were also at the time mining Ethereum proof of work. So...
[2:19:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Having the community come together because when you have a bunch of investment into very expensive equipment, the the return is supposed to be stable unexpected. And look. There's other actual substantially large mining operations pushing, you know, lot of... A ton of petahash out there that have done this as well, but I didn't like their mechanics. They weren't really straightforward, and a lot of it was very opaque on on what the pool stats were and how things were were kind of, you know, calculated for the people who are holding those NFTs. And Ordinals, by the way, it's been done on Ordinals as well. So, yeah, I mean, that... This kind of stuff's been around for a while. It's just a matter of seeing new people come in and focus on solo mining, I think, is is actually the cool the cool way to do it. Because then you don't get a bunch of dickheads like me in there.
[2:20:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Update on the Galactic gang. Still a ways and a ways and a ways to go. They cut the collection down from 5555 to 333. I don't know why they didn't just cut it off. Could have found the angelic number somewhere in that midst. 3,333 is total collection. 3,069 is what's been minted so far. Collection floor is $16.47. The mint is $17 and change. We have about another, obviously, like, just under 300, 275 or so left to mint. And then, I guess, anticipation for reveal, but you're exhausting a lot of money at this point, man. Lots of money. Anybody minting anymore? I got four. Anybody minting anymore? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?
[2:20:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I picked up four just to see what... Just to feel something.
[2:21:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: I actually... I... For the amount of crap that OpenSea was giving me, even trying to mint anything today, I was just like, I need to just hit the mint button at this point. I don't care what it is. And then...
[2:21:14] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Why could... Why do you still not own Hoodblocks then?
[2:21:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I didn't know about it until you just said something.
[2:21:23] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I mean, you can go hit the buy button instead on secondary. But... Yeah.
[2:21:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay, Thirsty. Okay. Okay. Simmer down.
[2:21:32] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I mean
[2:21:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's gonna get in. He'll
[2:21:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: get in.
[2:21:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: How do you know how do you know
[2:21:35] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Why? That I salty day.
[2:21:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Since we've been talking about it?
[2:21:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Because you you think you want Landy in your project, but sometimes you might not. I'm just letting you know. You think you do Wow. But you might not want him in the project. I'm I'm just saying
[2:21:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: for holding the floor up on some of those things that you're in.
[2:21:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, fuck it. You never held on. Junie died because of you. I just want you to
[2:21:55] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: know that
[2:21:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Junie died because of you. Pumped the shit out of Junie, and someone sold into me. Yes. I did. No. You don't wanna bring this up right now, Dave.
[2:22:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nope. I It's crazy.
[2:22:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: I dumped a bunch of money into it, and somebody on the other side was right there waiting. I wonder who that was, Dave.
[2:22:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: No, bro. My bro, my my wallet that got hacked got all my my $8 in Junie stolen right out of the wallet with it. So... And this full on Junie.
[2:22:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: I still have Junie in my wallet, by the
[2:22:25] Samara @thee_samara: way. Oh. I'm...
[2:22:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Good luck.
[2:22:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sell it. I did not
[2:22:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good luck. Good luck.
[2:22:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: It'll come back. I heard it'll come back.
[2:22:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: It'll come back. I mean, while we're while we're here, I mean, I guess we might as well kinda just, you know, kinda keep this going. What do we think of ARC launching in a couple weeks? You think it's gonna be a whole shit show, free for all? I hope they landed in
[2:22:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: stable because when stable chain launched, that thing was a mess, and they were trying to rush it out the door because Robinhood
[2:22:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's not gonna be stable. There's no way, bro. There's no way they're gonna botch it like that.
[2:22:59] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's circle I'm wondering who's still here. Who cares?
[2:23:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: You... You're... If you don't care, then giddy up. Alright, buddy? Over your commentary in the chat, pal. Alright?
[2:23:10] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: You're ruining his colors, David. You are ruining the colors.
[2:23:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: What colors? What is he talking about? Like, size... How how many mushrooms has he eaten? I don't know. It's not for me to essentially cater to the amount of mushrooms he has eaten. And t vibe, unless you say something in the next three seconds, I'm literally kicking you off. We were not taking any engagement for Jesus. We're already late for Jesus today, so I'm sorry. In three, two, one. That's it. Sorry, t vibes. You're out.
[2:23:39] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I've had a mic the whole time. This is what restraint looks like.
[2:23:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's it. You know, Meta Beast has been very restrained lately. What's going on, Metabeast?
[2:23:51] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm trying to show you all some some respect. I've given you guys your flowers too. Maybe it's just gonna... Never mind. Mhmm.
[2:24:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landon, did you open the NFT that that, Metabee sent you or not yet?
[2:24:09] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: He hasn't received one yet.
[2:24:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah.
[2:24:12] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh. Only... See. Dave.
[2:24:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: See, you said only You're
[2:24:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: not just ruining the colors. God.
[2:24:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did you did you spill the beans? I think Dave might have spilled the beans.
[2:24:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe it's better for you to just hit the exit button, like, leave button.
[2:24:27] Samara @thee_samara: You know what I mean?
[2:24:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, so I don't ruin your entire freaking Wow. Junkiest of Hollywood highs. You know what I'm saying?
[2:24:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's because I ain't wild. That's wild stuff. You know what's funny, Pete? Not sound. Neither not or I really talked about Bitcoin price action at all.
[2:24:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Been a while.
[2:24:43] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That... Anybody got any spare sats?
[2:24:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: We barely talked about it. We barely touched on the subject there where it hit some pretty important areas and then pulled back from them. But, I mean, if you really wanted to know if you really wanted to know, could watch my macro Monday and a Wednesday.
[2:25:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Macro Monday, Wednesday videos. Love them. It was my favorite.
[2:25:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, Milo's up here now. We've we've summoned Milo of all people.
[2:25:14] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm missing shorty space for this. You know?
[2:25:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's good. See, it shows it shows that that even though MetaBeast has a robust group of friends on this application, he's chosen to spend his
[2:25:29] Samara @thee_samara: time with us.
[2:25:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Blah blah blah. Whatever. Go ahead, Ben. Listen. I need to get back into Hoodblocks. So if you need someone to host a couple spaces, you know what I mean, someone to push this a little bit, Holler at me. He's a lead. Tour... I'll take two or three, bro. You know what saying? Let me... I wanna get... I sold a little early. Literally, I sold, and four hours later, these things were $400. Like, literally my luck. So just goes to show you. So if you need a little push, a little marketing action, I'm your guy. You know? A little ATC sponsored by Hoodblocks. Who knows? You know, maybe we could do a little something something.
[2:25:58] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I have never regretted in this... Saying in
[2:26:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: this place. Goya bean? Is your name Goya bean right now? The only person that should be talking or throwing an emoji is Goya bean. Are you gonna be sending me hood blocks? Exactly, mad beast.
[2:26:13] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. You haven't gotta be silence. I'm I'm done with the flowers then, sir.
[2:26:19] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Maybe Goya can tell us who Ultraparra is.
[2:26:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Who's that guy?
[2:26:24] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Who have Ultraparra?
[2:26:26] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Everywhere, and why does he own everything?
[2:26:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Who is Satoshi?
[2:26:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. Natalie, please, Natalie. Please, Natalie. I can't. This is... I... If I leave, the brand goes to literally nothing. I can't. It's either I'm gonna have to kick everybody out myself one by one, and then it'll just be me and Landon, which is obviously not enough on me. Just stuck. You know?
[2:26:53] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Can not sign in to the ATC account and, like, just leave it for him?
[2:26:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't give him ideas.
[2:27:01] Voice M: Jeez. My Sorry.
[2:27:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: My love
[2:27:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: to see Dave suffer for the next two hours
[2:27:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: as we just the as we the fuck.
[2:27:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Open up the BigBrand Block Explorer, and I explained the different transactions and what they are and how they're
[2:27:16] Voice E: gonna be.
[2:27:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: My god. I'm going inside right now. Gonna get on my laptop.
[2:27:24] Voice M: Oh,
[2:27:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: that's too good. That's too good. Milo, you came up. What's up?
[2:27:31] Milo @0dteSPY: Did you, and I didn't look because I got COVID, but did you, include gold in the video?
[2:27:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: I did not. It was just Bitcoin focused on Monday because I was not at my normal setup. So I just wanted to run through kind of what was going on in Bitcoin. Tomorrow, I'm gonna take a look at Bitcoin, gold, silver, oil, and equities.
[2:27:56] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I might have tuberculosis, but I haven't haven't consulted my AI doctor yet.
[2:28:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. What? So Milo got got got struck with with the the COVID lightning. Milo, how long have you been sick?
[2:28:17] Milo @0dteSPY: I'm on day three, and it sucks.
[2:28:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Ugh. Yeah. Yes. Well, I feel free, brother. I hope you
[2:28:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And actual flu on top of that? Oh my god. And I I say that from experience, so just saying.
[2:28:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I'll just...
[2:28:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I feel your pain. I feel your pain.
[2:28:34] Milo @0dteSPY: I recognized that I was officially old because my kids are, like, half sick, and I'm, like, half dying. So...
[2:28:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. My old hurts every day.
[2:28:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's funny because I've never been confirmed to have had COVID, which is interesting because I was traveling a lot at the peak, which is for reasons. But when other people couldn't travel, I was still traveling quite a bit, and I never got it.
[2:29:10] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Are you vaccine......
[2:29:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Dragging or threatening us?
[2:29:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... You know, I managed to get an exemption, DocNooNoo. You know that they were allowing for exemptions for specific people doing specific jobs at the time? Yeah. Even though there men...
[2:29:26] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: My job was quite the opposite. I would... I was not allowed to work unless I got a vaccine, obviously, because I work in Yeah. Healthcare. So I quit my job because they wanted to force me to have a vaccine. And I waited, and four months later, they removed that requirement. Oh, shit.
[2:29:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, he managed to gain control. Oh, no. We heard the music.
[2:29:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Is that a signal?
[2:29:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: That is. Yep.
[2:29:52] Milo @0dteSPY: Set the signal to start cursing?
[2:29:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's a Uh-huh. Got it.
[2:29:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep. I'm in charge now.
[2:30:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's that's a very New York way of saying that.
[2:30:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, thanks, Nat Nat slash Dave. It's a great space.
[2:30:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: He Wait. That's it. Alright. We're go... We're closing up. That's enough. Any last words? Fuck. Awesome. Do
[2:30:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: it right, man. Do it right. God. Echo. Oh, yeah. Leave that. Leave that.
[2:30:29] Samara @thee_samara: Let's go fucking. Let's go fucking.
[2:30:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. We're out. That's it. Have a good night, guys. We'll see you guys tomorrow. I'll be hosting, hopefully. Koya Bean, thank you for coming through and explaining all this stuff he ditched. DocNooNoo, good luck with your money. Landon, good luck with your pizza, eda, eda, feta, cheese, hashes, and all that stuff.
[2:30:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Alright? I'm gonna eat some hash browns now.
[2:30:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Some hash
[2:30:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: browns now.
[2:30:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's enough.