The space opened with technical difficulties as hosts Dave @DCBK2LA and NatNat @Natnatx007 struggled to log into the official ATC account while multitasking. The conversation began with personal updates, including Kool @koolcryptovc sharing his experience as a sports parent raising two talented tennis-playing children. Discussion then shifted to trading, with Landy @CryptoLandy detailing his deep research into Chevron (CVX) and the broader oil market, while NatNat highlighted her successful recent trades following the ChartVader bot on assets including $GC, $BTC, and $DRAM. The group covered the Samsung-Apple folding phone rivalry with detailed analysis of design, user experience, and market implications. Macro trading topics included the Zcash privacy coin ETF and price action, Hyperliquid's record open interest amid declining revenue, and strong momentum in related tokens like Lit and VVV. The show concluded with an in-depth interview with 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_ about the upcoming Tribe Called Rex NFT mint. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.
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# ATC: TG Channel Printing $GC $CRCL $BTC & $DRAM! Also a T-Rex Mint | 2026-09-09 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1DGleVYBvvlJL | status: approved # Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed. [0:00:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I I guess I said I said it from the wrong account like a idiot. What? What? What? What? Yeah. I guess we'll we'll have to do this, but I will, you know, we'll have to make do. Let me see if we can get them in. Oh my god. These VPNs are messing me up. Our pets' heads are falling off. Yay. Yo. What's up, bro? How we doing, man? Good to see you, dog. Good to see you, bro. Yeah, Natalie. I screwed up, man. I screwed this shit up. Hold on a second. Let me just get to where we need to get to. Yeah. So I guess I was multitasking because this definitely explains why I'm not on the ATC account. But I'm... Yeah. I'm working on bringing the ATC account into this specific chat for us. Natalie, did you change the the... What's it called? The set... The DM password? [0:01:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I've I've never had access to it. I didn't set it up. [0:01:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: I probably did. Maybe I just forgot the access code. So awesome. We are batting a thousand today. Let's go. You know? [0:01:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do you need me to bring the account up? I can bring it up on my laptop. [0:01:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That would be great. Thank you. Yes. Amazing. Okay. Wait. Hold on. Retry recovery. No. No. Graphs can be... May still be unreachable. Your bot's files... Oh, and logins are safe. Okay. Oh my god. I thought they were gonna take [0:02:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: the Grockbot. Goodness, Dave. [0:02:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Grockbot... ChartVader is gonna be down for the next, like, two minutes. He just has to re... Little reboot action. You know? So no... Nobody stress. Nobody stress. Yay. Yay. Okay. We gotta push this out. Everybody like, share, retweet. Oh, DocNooNoo's got a new PFP. What is this? Is she a pixelated version of the other one, or what's the deal? Oh, look who's here also. M f great. [0:02:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oops. That was an alarm. The prompt predator himself. What's up, m f greatest? Sunny d's in the building. What up, Sunny d? Tripping monkey was good. Milo, what up? Cool cryptos in the house. Let's go. Mustafa was here first, by the way. Everybody else, you're fired. Mustafa is always here first. This is gonna be the challenge to beat Mustafa to the... What's it called? And, guys, we have T Rexes in the building today. Okay? Credits, I love you, but we can't start the show on T Rexes. Actually, I take that back. We might be able to. We might be able to depending on... I gotta feel out the the level of derailment that my crew is essentially going to throw at me today because every time I post more than, like, four or five headlines that we need to cover, it... It's like they make it a a specific point to come in and just talk and ask a question and then talk about random shit and that that that that. But we are gonna talk about tribe called wrecks. NFT Mint is tomorrow. I don't even know if there's white list spots available. But if there are credits, we better be getting some. But let's say what's up to Cool. Hola, Cool. What's up, man? [0:03:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: And Cool's back down as a listener. Okay. Good call. [0:03:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: You see the the the ATCPFP? [0:03:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I do. Hold on. We'll bring it... I'll send it a request. Go ahead. You're like, wait a minute. I don't know how to accept a request on the laptop. Hold on. Let me get cool. Sorry. Cool. [0:04:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: I really don't. [0:04:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know you don't because it's like... That's my first thought. It's like, where did it go? Like, is it... You have to give it a second. It'll pop up in the bottom corner. New new shit is... Was... We're freaking me out. I don't know what... Oh my god. It's like, you get a new haircut. It's not... It's, like, weird to see a new PFP on someone. I get it now. You know? [0:04:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: He said you got a new haircut? [0:04:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh. [0:04:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: She got a blowout. That's right, girl. [0:04:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. I know. I know. Kinda nuts. Wow. Cool. You with us? What's up? Yes. Yes. Can you [0:04:36] Kool @koolcryptovc: hear me now? [0:04:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I got you. [0:04:38] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Sorry. I missed you yesterday, man. So my my my kid is on a varsity tennis team as a freshman. This dude could be the next, you know, African, Nigerian, US tennis superstar. So we're... You know, I'm I'm busy with him, man. Busy. So if if I don't make this show, it's because I'm on my tennis practice or some some matches across the state. So we're busy with this guy, man, and the door... And my daughter too. Both of them are tennis tennis... You know, who's who... Who's the way he goes, though. But... Yeah. So if if I don't come to this show, because I'm doing 10... Tennis with them, so I'm letting you know. [0:05:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. You got the next Coco Gauff, and I don't know. Like, I guess the the the closest black player is maybe Ali Asim, but I think he's Arab, Like... But he's number three. Yeah. Blake. Yeah. [0:05:26] Kool @koolcryptovc: So t... Yeah. Coco Gauff is there... This guy, t... Tian. I can't remember his name, man. I've looked at But Tien. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no... There's one there's again. I think t t t... Tifu? Tafa? I [0:05:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: can't Yeah. Yeah. [0:05:42] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: First [0:05:42] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. What's happening? He's from New York or whatever. But... Yeah. Yeah. No. So we we we we play, man, trying to get these kids ready for for the future. So it's busy. Busy. I I... Being a parent of two kids that could be really good at tennis, it's a lot of work, man. So... But I'm I'm... I try to come to the show when I can, though. [0:06:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sure. Yeah, bro. Of course, man. You know, obviously, it's... This is this is this is yours as much as it hours hours out here at the end the day. So... But good stuff, dude. That's gotta be... Dude, I'll tell you this much. I I never thought that anybody in my family, like my sisters, would be like, you know, like sports moms. Like, they knew shit about shit from sports, bro. My sisters are psychopathic sports mothers. If you see my sisters on the sideline of my nephew's basketball games screaming her head off as if you would think the house is on fire, and I'm like, who is this person? You... Like, you you generally don't know them. Cool. Do you get that feeling, like, when they when they compete? Like, you're watching your kid, and you're like, yeah. It's like a different kind of rush. [0:06:45] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, yeah. Sure. Sure. Any any parents that... That's... That watch their kid play. I mean, it's... It is stressful, man. There's nothing like it. Think because you you you don't want you don't want them to fail. Right? But... And you can't go in the court to play play... You you can't help them. You you watch from the sideline. It's it's different, but I am... It is nerve racking for sure. But it's fun, man. We'll see where it goes, though. But, yeah, a parent for a kid that plays sports, it is... It could be tough, especially the better they get, the more competition they face, and it it does get crazy. I mean, I... I'm not I'm not the kind of parents where, you know, I go nuts, but there are some parents that go absolutely crazy for for their kids. But, yeah, I mean, it's it's pretty nuts. Pretty crazy. It's it's fun. I'm not gonna lie. It's fun. [0:07:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love... Yeah. My my cousin spoke to me about watching his kid. He enrolled his kid in Brazilian jiu jitsu, like, at, like, eight years old, and the kid's, like, a killer now. And I'm like, my gosh. And he's, like, screaming. Was like, put the kid in an arm bar. I'm like, there's something a little different yelling about basketball versus, like, trying to choke another eight year old out. You know what I mean? Anyways, let's see what's up to Landon. Well, good shit, Cole. It's good to see you, man. Landon, what's up, my boy? [0:07:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hello. I'm over here trying to figure out, what I wanna do with CVX, which is a ticker. [0:08:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Chevron. Woah. [0:08:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... Because I I I took some, pretty heavy profits on... I... I've been holding on to June calls, end of June calls, that were literally bought right at the end of June, as it was dumping off. And, I've been, you know, letting it go. I even reloaded on some calls below 200. And I'm thinking, like, man, we're right up... We're butted up against these highs. We could break out, but is it really gonna be that much more attractive? So I'm actually doing some deep research on the entirety of the oil market. So in in terms of contracts... Because it's... The company itself... Although, yes, when oil prices move, it's gonna move, but it's more about what are they doing in terms of Venezuela and other build outs and stuff like that. So I'm, like, really digging into it, because I've got leaps from last year that are gonna expire later this year. So, like, there's all kinds of things that I'm... I have to take into consideration. Because, Dave, you got me... You got the wheels turning as you were like, yeah. Look at GC futures. And I was like, oh, you know what? You tagged me on there. I trade a lot of gold. I trade a lot of silver. I trade a lot of oil. I trade all the all the different various metals and and and, rare earth elements and stuff like that as well. But I'm, like, overweight in the oil sector, and I have been since, I don't know, for the past, what, last year? Since last year? Been overweight in the oil sector? [0:09:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: December, I think, when we when we went [0:09:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: heavy on on a bunch of them. Yeah. [0:10:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I'm I'm, you know, I'd bomb more things in The Middle East so that I can get out. And and... Because I have to consider taxes and stuff. Like, get out with with, you know, not giving the government too much money. [0:10:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I'm still holding on to my Oxi Leaps. I I did take some profit there as well, but I'm holding on to a big chunk. [0:10:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. [0:10:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Nat, you wanna tell everybody kinda how you've been cooking on Vest for a little bit? And we're gonna we're gonna share some links with you guys. Obviously, you know the drill. But this thing is kinda still forming in the background. Like, all this stuff moves so quickly, but there will be, like, a whole formal thing that we're gonna roll out. But, yeah, Nat, you've been cooking. You've been you've been putting up some slips, girl. What's the deal? [0:10:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So Chartbader is my bestie. Okay? He just says, girl, just get in. In all kidding. He does not say that. He he is actually very formal. So what he does... What we do in the background is we... They've have it set up to where it's super simplified. So if I'm looking at a particular ticker, for example, let's say, the dram. Right? So I would say, hey. Dram card, and he would give give us the levels long at this level, short at this level, wait for confirmation. Once he once he gives us that confirmation, then it's all things a go. Right? And that has been, like, as smooth as ever. Right? So then we enter the trade. We put in our our our t p one and our our stop loss. Granted, I think we spoke a little bit about, the the gold futures call that it didn't really quite get to all all the way to t p one. But for the majority of the other plays, it has. Like, BTC, I I held that overnight. I set my t p one. I woke up. T p one hit. For Dram, I I I I was able to get my t p one, t p one hit. But for a few others as well. Right? So the process is getting a lot better. Chart Vader is getting a lot smoother with his calls. Yes. We've had some stuff that we need to tighten and and rework, but I think overall, he... He's getting there. Right? So for the last three days, I've been following his call. I haven't even been... You know, I... I've been following the calls very closely. Sometimes as as someone that does, like, TA on the side, granted you guys know I have my Robinhood accounts, and [0:12:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have other accounts for a [0:12:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: very, very long time. So that's completely separate. But for this one, I'm really just following the bot be... Because because if I'm following the bot closely, I'm able to see, okay. This is where he went wrong or or, like, what what has happened today? Today was an amazing day besides that, GC call. Right? Like, today, it was like, okay. So t p this... T t p one here, t p one here on this on this asset, t p one here on this asset, and they all hit boom boom boom. So today was an incredible day. Right? So... But yesterday, we had to do a little bit of a fine tuning. Doesn't mean that these these cards ended up in a loss. He did call some of them early, so we had to sit in them for a little bit. But, overall, we were able to make some nice gains overnight into today. So Chartbaitr is definitely cooking. Granted, like you said, Dave, you know, there's still some stuff that needs to be, you know, fine tuned, But I I think I think we're getting it. Right? Because I've been following him really closely for the past three days, and the losses are very minimal. [0:13:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's good stuff. And and, also, guys, I I just updated the website because, like, they're literally updating in real time. So it's like, you... If you use a discount code, it's $38, and you get $5 in trading capital. Right? Like, $5. I mean, granted, it's a 3% daily loss. Right? So you have to be very careful. You have to, like, be tight. Right? You could only lose max $300, but think about it. If you actually, right, make $500 using this capital, you keep 95% of every dollar you make after that. I think it's worth a shot. $40, you get 5,000. You can't lose more than 300. You're still starting with $38. You know what I mean? And I think they're also rolling out the $10 for 500. I don't know about the... I'm I'm no mathematician. But [0:14:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you're saying if I give you $10, you're gonna give me $500? [0:14:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: I say if I pay you, I'll gladly take a hamburger today. Yeah. Exactly. [0:14:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: If you send me 1 Bitcoin, I will send you two back. [0:14:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Exactly. [0:14:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's not what it is. By the way, that's not what it is. It's just... We're just joking. For for prop accounts, that's really cheap. [0:14:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And that's The price is really good. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. [0:14:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna share the link down below in the comments. I'll pin it up to the top. I'll also put out a tweet so that everybody could be on the same page. But, guys, for right now, if you are gonna... If you are considering this, just please do me a favor. Use the link. Right? So we can at least get, like... Once you use the link, that's it. You're kinda locked in, and and it shows that we drove you to the platform because that helps us renew and get sponsorship money. Right? I don't think we're making money off the trading fees as of yet. They haven't rolled out any of these features yet. But in the event that you can use that discount code, please do. For when they do roll that out, I'd hate to lose, obviously, the crux of all you guys. You know what I'm saying? Like, that we signed up in the very beginning. So, I'm gonna share those down in the comments in a second now, but, yeah, and then we can, we can get rolling. Nat, what... What's going on with Sam's? What's the deal? What story you wanna start off with today? What's what's the macro picture? Yeah. [0:15:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: So Sam... Let's start off with Samsung because they... Man, they have been just throwing shade at Apple. Whoever the intern is that's running that Samsung account is hilarious. I posted some of the images in the in the ATC group chat, and this is all about the folded phone. Right? Because remember Samsung had their folded phone first. So they issued a state... They they they issued a post stating... It's it's feeling very familiar. Is is this a SimSQL? That's messed up. Right? That's directly at Apple. And and then the second post, they said, I'm so sorry, Duolingo. They copied us too. Wow. And then what got me is that let us know when you're done reheating our leftovers. So, like, they're basically saying people that didn't buy the Samsung flip phone would would buy Apple flip phone. But, man, whoever the intern is for Samsung, I think this person should get paid the big big bucks because that's very The [0:16:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: trolling the trolling might be might be s tier, but I will say that for an Apple folding device and a first one at that, it is pretty impressive. [0:16:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: You think so? [0:16:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Absolutely. Yeah. No. If you if you like folding devices. So, you know, the the the, what is it? The Fold eight, and then the trifold phone, whatever the Fold the eight ultimate or whatever, you know, they're good. They're nice. They're thin. They don't feel particularly premium. And from what I can see in some of the online videos that people are posting about the... When you have it unfolded all the way for the Apple device, very similar to the the more square fold that just came out, from Samsung. But the Apple device just looks more premium with the titanium and that screen. The interior of the screen doesn't look like it has. And granted, Samsung's been a pioneer in this field. Right? Very similar tech they're likely using, but for whatever reason, that Apple screen people are are holding it up so that you can see the crease of the screen and the fold. And you can barely tell that anything's there. And you can still tell... You know, it's getting better with Samsung as well, but I was very, very surprised. It's almost imperceptible. And people are running their finger over it and, like, you know, it... It's it's pretty interesting. And I think more importantly, the, for those that are used to iOS, I think it's pretty pretty slight. [0:18:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think I need to see it in person. I think I need to see in person because the videos did not... They did... Honestly, it did not move me at all. [0:18:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: As a as a as a as a phone, connoisseur of of... I'm a connoisseur of many different phones. Let's put it that way, where where I do have a brand new Fold eight. I kinda looked at it and went, I might have to go pick this up. [0:18:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Interesting. Yeah. So I might swing by [0:18:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I like... And I love the I love the Fold. [0:18:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: I might swing by the the Apple Store tomorrow and kinda get a feel for it in person because they did not... I don't know. We shall see. We shall see. [0:19:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I don't know when they're gonna show it at Apple stores outside of dummies, dummy devices, because they haven't really... Maybe they're getting some stock of it right after the event. But [0:19:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm okay with the dummy device... Devices just to see. You know what I mean? Because I I didn't... It doesn't... It didn't really hit home for me in terms of, you know, the the actual showing, but I felt that way, I forgot which phone was it. Was it the fifth... The '14 or the fifteenth? I can't remember. But there was one, yeah, one that I was like, yeah. And then I saw [0:19:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: And they did the big redesign, [0:19:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think, was within [0:19:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: the fifteenth. And then [0:19:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I saw it in person. I'm like, okay. No. This one's... It is actually really nice in person. So I [0:19:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: guess I have to see it in person for me to know. But Samsung is not wrong, and the trolling is hilarious. But you know what, Landy? Oftentimes, it's not about who did it first. It's it's who did it best. Right? Because even the technology that Apple used wasn't... They weren't the innovators in this. This technology... The touchscreen technology, I believe, was originated from Asia. Someone already had it. It was a... I forget the name of the company. I have to do some research on it. But there was a a smaller company in Asia that had the technology. So Apple wasn't the first one that invented the touch phone technology... The touch screen technology. But they they went... They did a great job, and they added their their... They made it better. [0:20:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, you gotta remember, Apple was working on the Newton all the way back in the nineties, which was a touch screen tablet. Right? So Apple has had their their tendrils in all of this for a very, very long time. I wouldn't discount the innovation that they that they provided to the industry over the longer term. And they've... They licensed some of the the, touchscreen technology that that the same licenses that were being provided to HP at the time, right, for for touchscreen tablet technology and stuff like that. They licensed it later. But Apple had originally filed some of the some of the very first, and was some of the very first patents for some of this stuff way, way back when. [0:21:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So [0:21:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm So, I mean, like, there's a lineage there. [0:21:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. [0:21:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: But they're all gonna compete. [0:21:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: And I'm not and I'm not discounting Tracking. Not not discounting their innovation at all because I know they have a lot of patents and even more that are yet to come, right, and things that they are working on. But in terms of oftentimes, it's not about who did it first, but who did it best. Right? So we're we're seeing it as well with some of these platforms. Right? Yes. You had a... Of the first per platform, great, but we're seeing other companies get better and better and every... And doing... Launching this platform and refining it and and make it better than the first one. Right? So not knocking the innovation, but Apple is really good at refining, fine tuning, marketing, and adding their own expensive things. Right? Case in point, the folded phone. They're not the first one to come up with a folded phone. Samsung did it first, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple if Apple's numbers go absolutely wild with this folded first... With the folded phone because they're really good at marketing, and they can sell. And and they're really good at explaining the why behind things. Right? So they aren't the first in a lot of things, but they are absolutely the best in a lot of things. Does that make sense? [0:22:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You know, the the the reason that that Samsung kinda got the z Fold eight out there, which is the four by three kinda foldable that Apple just also announced. They got it out there earlier this year, because they knew this was coming from Apple. They... So the candy bar foldable format, like the the actual Fold eight, like what I have, which is a work phone. The Z Fold came out then after, which is that four by three form factor. Obviously, they have the, the the flip, version, which is a candy bar flip, but then they have, like, the the wider aspect ratio like what Apple is doing. I think we're gonna see more of that. And I think if you're looking at touch interface user experience, people looking at that as basically like a mobile phone iPad, surrogate. The problem is the cost. Right? You can get an you can get an iPad really cheap, right, versus, or even other tablet devices that are Android based, very cheap, but no one can really compete with Apple on the UI UX even though we all gripe about these things after using them for a while because we we find something wrong with everything. Right? But I think it is gonna nail that. I think they're... I think they got a hit with this thing. It may not... It might be a slow trickle. They're gonna do a lot better with the candy bar phones. This is gonna be a premium priced device just like the Z Fold. [0:23:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Are you guys trying to put everybody to sleep with phone reviews? What are we talking about right now? [0:24:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's It's... I mean, it's... What do mean to [0:24:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: all things Apple. [0:24:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's talking about his eight by 11 phone. [0:24:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. We're we're literally going backwards. This is how the cycle works. [0:24:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Backwards because because this this, this has something to do with the stock as well. [0:24:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Okay. Great. [0:24:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can we... Did we touch on that in the beginning? Can we move on? [0:24:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: That... That's... Well, the whole point is is you better know what they're doing to to actually [0:24:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wish you would've just said that. [0:24:29] Samara @thee_samara: There you go. [0:24:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: See that? Look at that. Real quick. That's the real quick right there. Jeez. [0:24:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: But that... I did not know Landy was a phone connoisseur. My cousin is a phone connoisseur as well. So a lot of what... Yeah. So a lot of what you said, he's mentioned too. So I'm curious. Maybe... I don't know. Maybe when we're ready to dox, Landy, definitely inviting my cousin so you guys can speak phone. [0:24:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Well, I'm... [0:24:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I like to speak stock as it relates to the phone because the sell off today and that nice doji on the daily kinda indicating that, you know, we could see things come down, but I think that's, you know Opportunity. A lot of things in the market right now. [0:25:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. [0:25:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I think, though, that they will find a lot of success with this, which means that identifying some of those levels to the downside is gonna be very, very important. [0:25:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Agree. That is why earlier today, I gave Trivader the Apple Card message so he knows... He's already aware of what levels that we're we're going to look at. [0:25:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Guys, do me a favor. I don't know why nobody's retweeted the the space, but I I don't know. And maybe I'm just... I'm not Nat. Okay? Maybe I'm not as bubbly. Maybe I'm a curmudgeony a little sometimes. Okay? Fuckers, you're gonna retweet the... You're gonna retweet this stuff. Okay? Not even the space at this point. I don't care. It is what it is. But, like, the, the vest accounts there, like, we wanna make sure that we're showing support here. Like, come on. Hook us up. Give us a little burn. Get this thing... We get a little pushy push. You know what I'm saying? It's pinned up to the top. Just so we can get it across the timeline. Like, I'm... No... In no way, shape, or form does anybody have to fucking sign up to anything, whatever. Right? But at least you could do. Retweet the space and obviously retweet that that link so we can get it out there a little bit more. [0:26:15] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Thank you. [0:26:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. My god. You see what happens now? I end up doing other stuff. So I'm like, oh, I guess, Landy's gonna go for a little while. Like, let me just do this other stuff for a little bit. And then I'm like, come back. I'm thrown off. Natalie still can't get the ATC account up here because she's 25, of course, living in the stone age. Natalie, get the ATC account up account up here. [0:26:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: So I I think it's my computer, but x is not working on my computer. [0:26:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's crazy. You just don't see it. You need to look a little harder. To the next page. Go to the next tab. Look in the bottom corners. Trust me. [0:26:46] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's there. [0:26:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let me just bring up my typewriter. [0:26:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on. [0:26:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, I just realized that this wasn't being hosted by the ATC account. That's how that's how on the ball I am today. [0:26:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I am switch account. I will jump in on the ATC account. It's better like that. [0:26:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: I I logged into the ATC account, and I'm just like, wait a minute. What? Like, why is it asking me to set a reminder? I'm like, what? I'm like, oh my god. I posted it from the ATC account, but I literally, like, created the link from the Dave account. Ladies and gentlemen, ADHD is a very, very real thing. Beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So It's beautiful thing. Yeah. Thank you, guys. You see that? Look at that. Everybody that... Like, thank you, Frozen. Thank you, Elote. I appreciate you, Shiv. No credits. Thank you, guys. Yayo. The hell. I see everybody out here liking it. You know? [0:27:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I quote tweeted. I liked it. [0:27:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's good. You're you're you're you're you're default. You don't get to... Like, this that... This is your job description. Okay? But you want those Dave Bucks. You better you better smart up. [0:27:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: And I want some loonies and toonies. We've been talking to so many Canadians lately. [0:27:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. You know what? [0:27:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you guys hear me now? [0:27:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Oh oh, yeah. We hear [0:27:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: you now. Look at you. Hello, Nat. [0:27:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hello. Hello. Now I am the satellite dish now, Andy. [0:27:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wow. Somebody asked me the other day. They're like, who came up with the satellite dish? And I was like, this was actually, like, a community, like, you know, voted on thing. So shout out to Rambler for the satellite dish. You know what? Let's bring up no credits now, or I don't know if the T Rex account is here. Credits, if you wanna bring in the Rex account, feel free to bring them in. We can do it whenever you're ready, dude. Just come on up. We'd love to hear about the mint, what's cooking, see what's going on. And I don't know if... I mean, people should know you. You were o g a t c from, like, the early day. You, like, predated Nat Nat, if I remember, before Nat Nat even actually joined the show. So longtime supporter. Love you credits. What's good, man? How are you? [0:28:38] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: I'm good. Thank you, Dave. Yes. Longtime supporter. And, yeah, it's just just an exciting time to to be in our little project that... Like, I've been building this for three years. And so the... I remember reaching out to you guys early on saying, hey. I've I've got this idea for a project, you know, and you guys have always, you know, given me good advice and pointed me in the right direction. So it's been really it's been a really cool journey, but finally made it. [0:29:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, love that, man. Love it. I love it. I love it. What what would you rather do? Like, would you rather save it to the end? Where's Meta Beast also? Like, I'm surprised. Maybe he was sleeping. He was up late. He sounded like he was up late. You wanna go into it now? [0:29:16] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Because I'm happy to to fit in wherever it fits with you guys. So happy at the end is fine, bro. [0:29:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Because... Good. The the regular cast is not here. I mean, these two will probably do a good enough job of trying to derail. But there's lots of stories for us to obviously go over. Alright, guys? Like, there's lots. So... And I wanna be able to talk about them. So, yeah, I'll carve out, like... We'll carve out, like, twenty minutes maybe, like, at the end. Let's just get through maybe the next thirty. Let's let's talk about some of this important shit, see what's cooking out here, and then we go from there. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Good. Okay. Where do we start? What's, guys, I know you talked about some of wolf space, but maybe if you didn't hear. What's your guys' take on Zcash? Obviously, first privacy coin ETF now is on... Is about... I think they said about 500,000,000 assets under management. Obviously, been cooking. They... I mean, it was all time high. I think it was over $1,200 or something. Are you guys still bullish on this? The privacy narrative's still alive and well. What's the deal? I know Milo's probably gonna request in a second. But Sure. Yeah. Landy, go ahead. [0:30:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sure. Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't a a straight up cabal coin, then I would be way more bullish on it. But in terms of the trade, look, I've been in Zcash for a very long time at this point. Dating back to last year, you know, DG and I were talking a lot about privacy for quite some time. Happened to coincide with, Zcash making its first big run up to its prior highs, just shy of that $900 area, to, like, $700, and then it pulled back to, like, 200, but it was sitting around the 30 to $40. When we really were starting to talk about it, it just come out of its, like, really big downtrend from '23 into '24. And then throughout '25, it was kinda just consolidating and bouncing around. So, you know, I've been in in Zcash for an extended period of time, you know, in the various bear markets. Please scroll out to the entire history of Zcash, understand what it is and what happened. It launched at $30,000 a token and dumped off aggressively. You're not gonna see that on most charts, but there was some crime happening on those charts. And a lot of people don't know that. They're unaware of that, but the entire history, the the real open of Zcash was up around $30,000 a token. And over the course of, you know, about two weeks, it went from $30,000 down to $50. Okay? So if you weren't around for that, in 2016... And you might remember what this coincided with. This was the ICO meta that that Zcash launched in. So lots of crime, lots of cabals, and lot of, fun to be had by everyone except those who bought very early. [0:32:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: I did not know. $30,000. Wow. I had no clue. Because it went down to, like, $30 or $50. This is, a big talk in my... In in our in our ATC cabal chat, in our all coin cabal chat. I mean, like, I mean, we know that Blitz is on there. Cashflow's on there. I mean Mhmm. These guys are heavy, heavy, and they were buying at $30.50, $100. [0:32:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I mean, I was buying in and around the 25 to, you know, $50.50 dollar range in the accumulation zone during the bear market in... You know, as it was kind of coming into, you know, it had a nice pop, in '21, but then just kinda came down into a bear market through '23 all the way through '24 and started to only really rise out of that into '25 into 2026 now. So, yeah, it's getting a lot of hype, and there's a lot of big players, and those big players aren't you. Most of the people that are in this are in this from the highs. Right? So I would be looking for this to possibly get an extension if it can hang above the $900 range. You know, could it extend to, like, $131,400 bucks, maybe maybe a little bit more on on an extreme pop? Sure. Yeah. You know, I don't get in the way of, freight trains when they're in the process of choo chooing along. If it does start to drop $1,100, though, I would be looking for a correction down to 900 to 1,000, you know, between a $100 to $200 correction to retest those eyes. If it starts to reclaim any of that, then I'm looking down to, like, $7.40, $7.50, needs to hold. Probably probable that it tests those areas if it does correct down below 900. The weekly is very, very extended right now. I would not be surprised to, to see it still try to plumb a little bit higher, but if it does start a correction below $1,100, just beware. Know the levels and pay very close attention. Longer term... And that's what everybody really wants to know is, like, longer term, what what is the potential for for, like, the upside if, you know, Bitcoin can hold up? We've got, from the last major highs in 2025 to the major lows in early twenty six. So we're looking at from, $755 down to the, you know, $1.85 region is where it kinda bottomed out, earlier this year in February, March time frame. There is a big key level for my extensions that lines up on the weekly or a third standard deviation away from a mean, and a 41.4, or one four one four level at just overhead, nearly getting hit at around $13.22. It can it can easily extend past that, if it holds up above the prior highs at $900. And you'd probably wanna see it carving out... Even if it dips in, you probably wanna see it carving out a a nice low in that area if it does not extend this rally further. If it does choose to extend the rally further, you could potentially look, you know, initially in lower term time frames, you know, 1,400 to $1,500 is fair game up to, I would say, $17.50 to 1,800, and then I'd be very, very cautious. I know that there's some people looking for much, much higher prices much sooner. I would almost wanna see this come back and correct and create some really constructive price action before it would try any higher than that. The biggest the biggest one for me is, the monthly has some pretty clear big momentum signs. But if it tops out anywhere around here, oh, boy. You better watch your butts to the downside because if it actually tops out on a monthly... So, again, all of these things apply. Watch for any corrections below $1,100. Look for retest to that prior high side structure. You wanna see it holding up probably 900 to 1,000. If not, it needs to hold $7.50. Right? [0:36:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: $7.50 is a big, big level across the board. [0:36:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Absolutely. Yeah. No. It needs to hold that. If if it it... The strong side would be holding around 900, the prior highs, to around a thousand dollars and on closes for the, like, the weekly and monthly and stuff like that. But if you see any kind of a monthly close below that $7.50 area, this will create a massive, massive bearish divergence on a monthly time frame. Like, not pretty at all. So what you would rather see is for this thing to keep cooking to the upside, correct to some of these areas, hold up well, or if it corrects sooner rather than later, hold up well when it... During that correction and, and show some strength off of those areas, when it does. So I'd almost want to... For for people in Zcash, I'd I'd almost be hoping that you get a nice little pop up into that 1,400 to $1,500 range, get a nice $500 buffer for a drawdown. Not that it can't stay safe from here, but it's kinda on the razor's edge if we start seeing corrections happen from here. So, obviously, that would probably... You know, it has been kinda defying the overall market moves because the narrative... Because the big players getting in. [0:38:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, they don't get in at some of these prices because they're... And it's a lose money. Right? And some of them are looking to get lower prices, and they're bigger than just about anybody on this app is because most people are jumping on this train late. [0:38:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And the the DAT's cooking too. Right? Like, Cypher or Cypher, whatever it's called. Right? Like, everything's... Yeah. [0:38:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bearish on DATs, but that's me. [0:38:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair. Well, I wanna ask my jerk. You're a douchebag. Yep. Milo, the privacy narrative, Zcash, I know you like Dash. Where where where are you at with this? Like, is Dash seeing, like, the move... Like, maybe not as as crazy as Zcash, but is it moving? So first, the Grayscale product [0:38:45] Milo @0dteSPY: was out in 2022 for Zcash. It sat on the pink sheets. It did what it did. As far as Dash goes, I picked up both Zcash and Dash probably around the same time in 2025. So right now, when I was talking about it a lot, you did get a 100% move over the weekend. It's still up from when I've been talking about it more recently. [0:39:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: For [0:39:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: for Dash, you're talking about. [0:39:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: For Dash. Yeah. Absolutely. For Dash. [0:39:19] Milo @0dteSPY: So you got your 100% move over the weekend. There's a post I got where it whipped up to $87.50. Now it's sitting at, like, 62 and change the last time I looked. But there was money to be made there. [0:39:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I always take a little bit out just because, [0:39:36] Milo @0dteSPY: but I still have a bag. I think privacy is gonna be a thing. I think it's gonna always be a narrative in some circles depending on who you are and your foil hat like I wear one. And that's pretty much it. [0:39:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like it. Good shit. Here's here's Yeah. [0:39:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: I wanna... I'm gonna say this. There there is a problem with the privacy narrative. [0:39:59] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: I'm just so excited. So excited. And so I wanted to have the... [0:40:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got him. Go ahead. You're good. Go ahead, Ladie. [0:40:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, is he in another space as well? [0:40:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: He might be. Yeah. Okay. Is he mad? [0:40:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. No worries. No worries. The the thing with the privacy narrative is is the winners will be picked. And what many of these companies are doing, these DATs are doing with... And you'll see more surrounding specific privacy coins. You'll even see some DATs and players get in the game where they're... They have a mix of privacy coins just to hedge. Is the... The privacy tokens are gonna be picked by by large corporation large corporations, right, and what they're actually willing to use, and what is the real value outside of the current systems that we have. So this is where... Much like we've talked about this in the past when it comes to, like, you know, all these all these bigger players coming in and, like, beta testing different networks and, hey. JPMD is gonna be over here on base, and they're gonna do this over here. And, you know, you've got, Tethr and Circle have venture capital firms that are all over the place in every chain, and then they go and they launch their own chains. Right? So just understand that you play the narrative for as long as the narrative is hot, make your money, take your profits, and don't bank on it for the longer term because what what you're going to see is that it's going to evolve into a conversation where a winner will eventually be picked. So, yeah, have some diversification across the field. [0:41:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: But make note of which corporations are using, not just accumulating and holding, but using using using using use case because that's where the real rubber hits the road because that's what's gonna be the longer term plays. [0:41:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead, Milo. Yeah. Go for it. Yeah. Milo, go ahead. [0:41:56] Milo @0dteSPY: Yeah. So the only thing that I will add is if you're not following Grayscale and the ETFs that they're launching or filing for, I think you're doing yourself a disservice. I pretty much follow that. I try to... You know, I always get a little bit of a bag in whatever they're gonna do. I'm not saying that this is a winner. I'm not saying that this always wins. But if you're sort of scooping up at the floor or at least close to underneath them, you should be okay. Just follow the ETFs, and that's that's all my advice. [0:42:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Good stuff. Alright. Follow the ETFs. [0:42:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yep. You know what? There is... There's a lot of signal in that. You remember, Dave, I mentioned it here. I've mentioned it elsewhere, but the ETFs started to, ETF issuers, [0:42:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: on float went to nothing at the lows, and then you had CME flip long on a lot of stuff in the crypto space all at the same time, that is the same players. Okay? These are the same players utilizing all of this. Right? So if you're you're taking the short hedge off and you flip long on on futures, you know, they're they're doubling their bets down. Then what did we see shortly thereafter for Bitcoin and all the ETFs? We saw, you know, inflows again. So, like, if you do move with the big money, you're gonna make money. Just don't poo poo it. And a lot of people poo poo it. And when you see them all go long in a in a big way, look, they they have the money to move the markets. Most of the regular folks, all of the regular folks maybe put together can move the markets, but you ain't gonna move the market. So don't go against the bigger players that are gonna be throwing their money in. If you move with them off the lows at Bitcoin at 60 k, even after it hit the lows, the market flipped long for CME, and you saw, the the short on float across the board for all these spot ETFs just evaporate to nothing. Yeah. That was your signal right there, and it's something that, you know, I've talked about. It doesn't mean that risk is off the table to the downside, or is off the table to the downside in the future, but [0:44:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Signal. If if you [0:44:23] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: do move with them. [0:44:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, Natalie, you are I'm not. Robotic. Mister Roboto. So, Nat, do a laugh. Yeah. Lindy, so, like, I mean, I guess one of the other stories too, like, if we wanna maybe transition from Zcash or just in general, like, Hyperliquid, 14,300,000,000 in open interest for Hyperliquid. It hit an all time high today, but this is the thing I found fascinating, was revenue was literally down 56%. People are still piling into... I mean, it's down after hours now, but, I mean, after hours as in, like, you know [0:44:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: As if there's hours. [0:44:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Regular market close. Yeah. [0:45:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: As if [0:45:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: there's hours. But, like, I mean, that's a... That's 56% down, and this token is hitting all time highs. Prime for the short, or are we waiting around? [0:45:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, when it comes to hype, I've been more waiting for corrections and then looking to long, less so on the short side because some of the players that are in hype can absolutely blow out the short side of the trade. So I've been very, very careful when it comes to shorting hyperliquid. Now granted, I was short from what, like, the $50 or whatever when it put in a... It had a giant massive move down to, like, $20 in one candle, and it waked all the way back up. We're looking all the way back to the 10/10 trade. This was actually not even 10:10. This was prior to 10:10, when the highs came in and kinda locked in for Bitcoin. Hyperliquid sold off aggressively, but it put in... You know, over the coming weeks, it rallied back to $50. I was short there because that's just the... That was an obvious trade for rejection in and around the $50 region, 45 to $50. And I wrote that down into, you know, the upper twenties, and then I waited, for it to come down and hit into the 20 to 25 zone where I was a buyer again. And I have not wanted to short this since. Main reason why, even on that little double top that it did, it it it, like, peaked out at, like, $73 or something and then hit 50 again and retested, but it retested it as support. I was not willing to short it down even though there was a beautiful trade there. Over a course of a couple of weeks, it was more about hunting the long side. And I think in the next correction, that would be the same. And right now, it's really... If it just breaks below 80, and does not consolidate in the mid 75 to 76 range, then I'd be looking for a bit of a retrace into the, you know, mid fifties, mid sixties, potentially more, down into the $50 range again. But I'm not interested in the short side of the trade, at this particular moment. Open interest, though, can be a killer because if there is a bunch of long calling in. [0:47:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Can you explain what open interest means just so everybody is on the same page and they know? Because sometimes people might hear that term at the... Like, you know, that's some... Like, you gotta be trading every day to know what general Think of it as leverage. [0:47:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just think of it as as as, as as leverage on on underlying. Right? So in this case, it's it's contracts. So leveraged contracts. So if you got $14,000,000,000 in leveraged contracts, then what you're looking at is, you know, you're looking at a multiple, over underlying. Right? And maybe it's a billion underlying and it's 14 x. Right? You don't... There's... Across all different venues, though, is what's being aggregated as the open interest or contracts out on, futures contracts, perpetual contracts out on Hyperliquid in terms of dollar value of those contracts. So... And that's... You know, for Hyperliquid, there are some good aggregators that can tell you the long versus short side. You can go directly to Hyperliquid, but Hyperliquid's across all of these different exchanges. It's in traditional markets. There's in... It's in funds. It's everywhere. Right? So it's it's getting that that really good distribution. I think that, you know, the last time that it tested $50, you know, we saw, of course, the end of July into August, you know, the the big crypto White House meeting pump that came along with things, when Hyperliquid is mentioned by Trump. I I just think... I think it's still got juice to cook to the upside. It just needs Bitcoin to cooperate. And even then, it tends to, you know, not really get hit that hard. [0:49:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: It tends to do its own thing sometimes. Right? [0:49:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Like, it could easily go to a $100. [0:49:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [0:49:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, no problem. That doesn't mean it will. I can easily go to a $100 from here, though. That... That's, like, not even an issue as an overhead target from here. It's still got juice left on the weekly to do it. I would say you'd need to see it closing above $65, though, in order to to do that and still keep that alive without a wider correction down and consolidation. [0:49:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: I would even maybe raise that to, like, $70, in the coming weeks. But but the the the main thing with with open interest is if most of it's on the long side, you have a bunch of leveraged contracts on the long side. If it gets wiped out, that's where you get those giant massive wicks down. That's what happened, in October 2025 when you saw a weekly candle that opened at $49 and had a swing all the way down to $23.65 because a bunch of longs got absolutely decimated on the sixth, the same day the Bitcoin put in its all time high, and and through the tenth. Right? So you had that big $10.10 dump off, that wiped out all kinds of leverage, and, it started with... You know, Hyperliquid actually started it a little bit earlier than even Bitcoin's, was was already starting to get sold off down through some levels. You know, it started that week out at $50. And coming into $10.10, it was already trading, you know, down, you know, at a $10 discount and racing down before the actual orders went through for that $10,000 sell. And then everybody that was long got absolutely liquidated on that trade, which wiped out a bunch of open interest. I don't know how much of that open interest here is short side. I would venture to guess that it's probably mostly... I I would venture to guess it's at least sixty forty, if not sixty five thirty five long to short ratio on Hyperliquid right now, so I would be careful. And I wouldn't really wanna see it trading too far below $75 before liquidation start down to, like, 70 and $65. Because you got a lot of people in this consolidation. It's been consolidating in and around the $78 range to $80 range for two and a half, three weeks. Same same as Bitcoin kinda trading around its range. Hyperliquid moved up. [0:51:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Real real quick, Dave. Speaking of hyperliquid, there's another one that's been moving similarly to hyperliquid. Not saying they are, like, one zero one or the prices are the same. I say they're moving similarly in terms of at certain at certain points, they both tend to do their own thing, not necessarily following Bitcoin too closely, and that one is lighter. Lit is one that we did cover on the show when it was, slightly above a dollar. Landy and I, we both brought up the chart and kinda went through it. So from the moment that we mentioned lit on the space, it has ran from slightly above a dollar, and it hit a massive high yesterday of over $5. So that one was a really good trade that we actually covered on the space. And we we mentioned them as well during Robinhood. Remember? Because Robinhood, they're using the lighter infrastructure for their perps. So it's gonna be very interesting to see how that play... Plays out. Right? Hyperliquid, lighter, and I would go... I would say Aerodrome and VVV. Those four definitely one that we wanna have on our watch list. Aerodrome being the liquidity provider for base. Right? And VVV, Landy has been talking about VVV since a really, really long time. I remember him talking about VVV [0:52:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: before. Remember? [0:52:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Since before I left [0:52:47] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Remember? [0:52:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Since before I left, and then he was talking about it when I came back too. So he's been on it for a while. [0:52:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: I... Do you know how much freaking VVV I accumulated under $2? A massive amount of [0:53:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, this... It's... Bro, this thing hit the levels where if you guys remember for the ATC crew that was here, like, a year and a half, maybe maybe close to two... Probably, like, eighteen months ago when this airdrop happened. Right? Cool. Was it... Like, I got the airdrop live on ATC, and I literally sold at, like, 26 or $28. This thing legitimately went down. Like, when I... You guys remember the other episode where I said, guys, what's your one AI play that you would have to die on the hill for? Landy was like, VVV at $2. And we were like, really? $2? Yep. This thing is $22.70 now, hit almost $29 today, and is absolutely... The meta couldn't be more perfect. The tokenomics couldn't be more useful. The compute for the token to... Or the for the inference that you can use on VVV, like, it's just like... It's like they foresaw the future. I think this thing still cooks. Landy, I would love to hear with... Like, I mean, take your victory lap first and foremost, and the clap is for everybody, obviously. You've been doing that one. I appreciate it. I [0:54:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: I liked what they were doing at the time, and I was like, you know what? Because, you know, I sold too. I didn't sell right away. I sold half. I don't remember what I even sold it for after it got, airdropped. I even bought some in in in terms of spot, and and I said, you know what? I think it went... It was down at, like, $4 or something, and I took a trade to, like, I don't know, 7 or $8 or something. And I was like, look. I I want this to go down. I want this to go to $2 and under. And I said, and then I'm going to absolutely buy a boatload. This went to... Let me actually pull up a chart here. This spent, let's see. It spent $12.34. It spent all all of September, October 2025 essentially in and around the $2 level. It bounced up briefly to, like, $2.60, and then it sold off and spent from October until January, [0:55:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: under $2, in and around a... I don't know. Like, I I swear you can see my buys on on this chart, but that's just me. I get... I got back in when it started to rise off of its lows. I started to aggressively buy this in and around the dollar 50. I put it, basically, you could consider it a a TWAP on it, and I just went ape shit on it. Excuse my language. It corrected back down again then to that same area right where I had started my buys and I started buying more... Even more aggressively. It's been kind of an upside ride the entire time. And I'll be honest with you, I didn't even look at any of the fundamentals. I would... I didn't look at... We're doing these burns. We're doing this. I wasn't even paying attention. I was just looking at the chart. I was logging in, and I was staking, logging in and doing, like, the DMs or whatever that is. I don't even know. I don't even use it. I just like the play. [0:56:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: And the chart was probably set it up really nicely. Right? It was set up pretty [0:56:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: It literally... Nat, it retested my TWAP when I... It retested the TWAP that I put on it perfectly. I swear. When I say that I went in big on VVV, I... Unreasonably large amount of money I went in on VVV. Now I have not been a buyer since it was accumulating for a short period of time, back in April of this year. It was accumulating... I wanna say it was like, I... I'd have to go and look at even in the buys because I'd... It was... I basically turned TWAP back on, but it was somewhere around, like, the 8 to 8 to $10 rate. It it accumulated for, like, like, a couple of weeks. That was my last big buy. It ran up. I let some of it go in and around the $20 range. It corrected back down to, like, $10 again, and then it consolidated for quite some time, worked its way back to, like, 18 to fifth... 15 to $18 for a while before the big kickoff that we've had in the past couple of days. So I am... I have a ton of staked VVV. I have a ton of liquid VVV as well. And what I can say is I think that this still has... I I think it needs to correct. Right? It had a massive spike up. We saw a ton of volume come in today. I would love to see this back to not just re... I'd love to see it back to testing eighteen to twenty bucks again. I know that many many bears would be like, just, oh my god. That's so juicy below $20, breaking below those highs again, 22 to 20. I would love to see it come all the way back down between 18 and 20. Doesn't mean we're gonna get anything like that. That's what I would like. And I, I do wish upon a star every once in a while. [0:58:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: But, yeah, I... There's, I didn't even... Let me put it this way. One, I've made quite a bit of money trading it. Two, I didn't even bother to sell any in the past two days on the big moves up. I wanna see what happens, and I am... Just like in Hyperliquid, I am on the buyer's side, in the areas when it comes back down. I will take a look at it if it does start to break back down. [0:58:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: You... This has a lot of potential. Right? Look look at the weekly. It has breakout potential. It just has to cool off a little bit. But if it regains strength and momentum and we start to see it actually close above $2,023.56, I think it... I I think VVV gives a shocking move to the upside. I could be wrong, but that's what I'm seeing. [0:59:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I hate this daily candle. This daily candle is the ugliest daily candle I've seen in a long time, which means that it might set a local high even if it does work its way back to it and maybe even slightly above it to, like, let's say, $30. I think it's gotta cool off on the daily. That doesn't mean it's going to, by the way. Big, big, big sell side volume all the way back to where it's trading now at $22.77. Mhmm. Because [0:59:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: on the weekly, Landy, it is signaling the potential for a pullback as well. But if it's able... Once it cools off... What I'm saying is once it cools off and it's able to reclaim, look at that structure. Look at that pattern on the weekly. That is the same pattern I saw on on lighter, on lit with... Before that aggressive move to the upside. Right? But it has to cool off. [1:00:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Of the same players involved too now. [1:00:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: See? Exactly. But it it does have to cool off. You're absolutely right. But once once we get that cool off, I think it's gonna it's going to be now where... The next move would be where do we see it bouncing to. Right? Because if it does break above that level on the weekly, that big resistant level on the weekly, I think it goes, man. I think it goes. [1:00:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I... So when I'm looking at this, and I'll keep it in market cap terms. So we're looking at a billion dollar market cap right now, $11,090,000,000 or something, somewhere around there. Right? I think in the in the much longer term from the prior pattern that was put in from the highs, at, like, $22 or it was at a billion and 7 or whatever it was to the actual lows. When I start to spec that out, I'm looking at, you know, 1,700,000,000, to 2,000,000,000 as being a big, big upside area over the longer term. And then things get a little crazy from there. Because if it does break above around 2,000,000,000, you're looking probably 2.5 to 2,750,000,000 probably fairly quickly. Like, when you look at early emerging charts, like, the... This is where you get the... When you when you get that big of a retrace and the accumulation and then you get these big breakouts, and let's say this takes a little while, cools off, and then starts to work its way to, like, 1.7 to to $2,000,000,000, it starts to exponentially increase because the amount of capital that needs to come in, to keep pushing it, if it's gonna go, it's gonna go. Like, that... That's because that's the big boys are here. Okay? And then it's... They're not here to go at, you know, 1.7 to 2,000,000,000. They're looking for a $10,000,000,000 valuation on the token at that point. [1:02:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly, Lindsay. Exactly. [1:02:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, they talked about a billion too. And we [1:02:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: said something similar to... With Hyperliquid. Right? When Hyperliquid would... What was it? Was it at 50 when we talk... Spoke about it on the show that we see it? [1:02:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100%. $52. I remember like it was yesterday. Yep. [1:02:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I was screaming about it at $20, 22... $25. [1:02:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, look. It had pulled... I mean, we've been talking about it forever, and it's had pulled back. Obviously, we... I mean, hyperliquid was definitely at $20 when we were yelling hyperliquid for sure. But, you know Yep. People people sometimes don't see the forest through the trees. But, honestly, we gotta give Ryan his props too because he's saying this juggernaut's gonna keep going. They're gonna keep building out. And if you see, everybody wants a meeting with Hyperliquid now. Right? Everybody wants a meeting with Hyperliquid. You saw it now. They're offering wrapped hype on Kraken. Shout out to the Inc crew and, obviously, to the Quotron homies even though I'm not a homie. Can I even say that? I'm just a poser. You know? Somebody let me into the group chat, guys. I don't know who it was, but god bless that guy. I love him. Now I just... To get to, like, beg in public. Instead of having to beg in public, just beg in the group chat. I'm be like, hey. Anybody wants to sell me one of those PFPs that they just dropped, let me know. Let me know. You know? Oh, I got the OpenSea link. You... Y'all don't have the open... A $143? Hey, Landy. Listen, man. Hey, Samara. No. No. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Samara, I saw you sold some NFTs this morning for some money, man. Listen. If you... Like, I'm gonna buy some of these, and then we could flip them back the other way. What happened was Uh-huh. Tamara. [1:03:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Uh-huh. He's like, criminal recognized criminal, man. I'm not even gonna say that. He's [1:03:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: like, goddamn. That is it. Yo, Tamara, I saw you printed, bro. Like, those reserve ones came down to under a $100. You selling at $3.50? Let's go, my boy. How was your day? [1:03:57] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Jam Jam Cook. Dave, Jam Cook, Jam Matt, Matt, Jim Landy, Milo. Shout out to you guys. I mean, yeah, man. The reserve, I didn't get some quite early. I think I bought the reserve at, like, I think 20 something bucks. I know Maestro posted its... Just it was like a casual interaction. I bought it. I sold it around, like, 100 and something, but it went crazy after that. So I don't know. I just... I I dumped my bags for the reserve. But today was consensus. The oligarchs meant got, like, a first come, first serve, and I go to GTD for buying the... On the stuff for the the company. But, yeah, that was good. So far, bro, n... NFTs have been going crazy. It's been good. It's been good. Decent rates. Decent free means that run up to, like, three figs. Very decent, and I've been trading them too on the side. So it's been profitable. It's been profitable so far. I've been really locked in NFTs. I'm I'm just... I'm thinking of nothing else. I'm... I also wanna ask, bro. Like, today, my bot almost killed me. Like, does anyone have any decent recommendation for, like, an NFT trading bot? Like, a decent one. Like, a very decent one because I lost, like, decent money today just, you know. [1:05:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Meaning, like, what? Once once, like, public opens, you just sweep everything? [1:05:07] Samara @thee_samara: No. No. Like, first [1:05:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: game, first serve. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Right. So for first... Oh, okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah. So it just sweeps all of, like, OpenSea with as many as you... Yeah. But the majority of them are just max mint or max mint one or two mints. Like, the good ones, you're not being able to... First come, first serve is not... Are are they selling out first come, first serve? [1:05:24] Samara @thee_samara: Like, today, I had a couple of first come, first serve that didn't last, like, couple of seconds. And my bot literally was, like, detecting the first come, first serve. It was just detecting public, and I'd lost, like, a lot of money today just by that stinking issue. So I'm looking for new bots. I don't know if... I don't know, Landy, Dave, DocNooNoo, if you have, like, any recommendation for, like, a decent trading bot for NFTs. [1:05:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nothing nothing that's not compatible with Bitcoin. I can tell you that much. All of my bots are ordinals focused, and they haven't had much to do because, well, the lows have been the lows for quite some time. I have not invested any money or time into any other types of trading bots for NFTs. [1:06:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somebody did. You have... You know what you have to ask, Samara? I gotta put you in touch with the degens and Coma's group, bro. In Coma's prediction market group, it's now turned into a full fledged NFT, degen... Whatever group. Bro, these... They're the reason why I make a $100 every day out here. I swear. They found the NVIDIA thing from yesterday. Right? Like, the thing that you launch on ponds. You just connect the wallet on ponds. You launch and boom. $90, a $100, $200. They're the reason why I... There was another one today. I forgot what the other one was today, but that was another $78. And they have this... Like, they know the guys that have all these scripts. And I I think we actually posted it on on the Mintboard site the other day too. I have... Did you check that one out, by the way? You know the guy that was like... I'll find it for you. I'll find it for you. Somebody in that chat knows, and it's the same guy that just keeps coming back recommended over and over and over again. So, yeah, I'll I'll forward it over to you, my brother. [1:07:08] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Because I I lost, like, $600 today just by that little error. Damn. It was... Like, what... [1:07:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Samara, I I just put something in the chat that I don't think is publicly available. Maybe it is, or I don't think none of the Quotron guys are tweeting it. Is the Quotrons were just airdropped a PFP. So, you know, obviously, they're they're they're dropping Easter eggs all over for, like, ink token. Right? Like, they're gonna drip this out as long as possible. Super smart. But it's only got a Quotron holders. It means that. Yeah. Yeah. Minted out. It's on second... Of course... No. No. So this was an a mint... This was an a mint, was it? I think it was an airdrop. They just sent it to all the wallets that held Quotrons. For everyone, you got one of these PFPs, and now these guys are selling... Some of them are selling on the, on OpenSea, and I just put the link in the, in the ATC chat if any of guys wanna get in there. It's, 150 or 80... Where is what is it right now? $196 floor. Goddamn. These things could... I mean, listen. You never know. Speculation fuel. Cool. If you're gonna buy an NFT, buy this one, bro. P r... What's p r t s c n? I wonder what this is. Prince... Who? Prince who? [1:08:19] Samara @thee_samara: Prince Season. [1:08:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Prince Season. Prince Scan. Remember Prince Scan? Oh my god. We're all... Anyways. [1:08:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Speaking of NFTs, did you guy... Sorry. Go ahead. [1:08:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. Go. [1:08:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did you guys see... I I believe this one was one that we were whitelisted for or there... It was free. I don't believe I paid in much much for it. Urchin Friends, I think that's what it's called. It's up a 157% today. [1:08:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Up to what? Like, a dollar and and 25¢? [1:08:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: $2.70. [1:08:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm a kill you. I'm a kill you. I saw one I saw one last night, actually, that I just randomly opened my wallet and had it up on OpenSea, and it said $18 offer. It was, like, right at the top. One of the recent ones, we go back and look through your NFTs. I forgot. Hold on. I'll tell you right exactly what it was called. Let me just look through my activity. I think I sold for, like, 15 or $18 or something like that the other day. So I think it was Are you rugging, or is that me? Oh, [1:09:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: I hear him rugging too. [1:09:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, for real? [1:09:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Damn. Oh, you're better now. [1:09:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're Okay. Better No. Oh, okay. This one was... Hold on. I will tell you, and shout out to DocNooNoo for this one. We got myself a nice pack of cigarettes yesterday. It was... Hold on. [1:09:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: My god. The old emojis are back. Look at the look at... The old emojis are back on my screen instead [1:09:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: of the new ones. There's Oh. [1:09:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, I still see the new ones. [1:09:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. You're right. [1:09:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. The [1:09:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: old ones are back. What the... What is that? Oh, Robin Hood toy. Robin Hood toy. [1:10:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, let me check that one. [1:10:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Oh my god. [1:10:02] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, it's [1:10:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: even... It's [1:10:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know that Robin Hood toy... Yeah. Metabeast is laughing, and I know why he's laughing. But, also, Robin Hood toy sounds like a sex toy. [1:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? I don't know. [1:10:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sounds like [1:10:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: a double edged It sword or was, like, 18 or whatever dollar of $17 play. It's $11 floor now, but it's still up from where we mint. I think we we free minted these. So listen. Free money is free money at the end of day. Is what it is. Alright. Yeah. Maybe if our CNO isn't too busy, she wants to come through, let us know. Oh, shout out to the Retium team. I never chatted with the Retium team, l one blockchain of the future. Retium, get in the DMs. Let's talk, man. Let's talk. Let's talk. Alright. No credits. Tell us what in the hell would possess a human a being to CTO an NFT project with a Tyrannosaurus rex. And as I said that, I thought Klannosaurus, dinosaurs have an appeal. I take it back, but why a Tyrannosaurus rex? What's going on, Credits? Welcome, sir. Are you back? Credits is the busiest guy in showbiz. Damn. Wait. Let me just check my DM. [1:11:09] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: No. No. No. Sorry. I'm here. [1:11:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. Sorry. You're [1:11:13] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: good. How are you? Good, bro. Good. And so JPunks was the collection that I was in back in 2022 as a as a collector. And they basically did this thing where they took a a a t rex and and a human and mixed the two together. And I quite liked them, but some of their traits were crazy. And they were baked in and it was it was, like, weird stuff. And I remember saying to a friend of mine, Gary, back at the time, was like, wouldn't it be cool if we did our own one and you could actually swap the traits? And then 2023 comes around and the J Punks rug and, you know, claiming that market conditions forced their hand. But, dude, these guys minted out... What was it? 7,777 in a day at 0.1 ETH. Like, 2022 was kind to them. So That's [1:12:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: a different time. That's a different time. Was a different time. Damn. [1:12:09] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: And... Yeah. So a year and a half later, rugged, and and Gary and I took it on ourselves to try and resurrect them. But they... Six months of sort of chatting with them behind the scenes and trying to do a CTO just failed eventually because they wanted to have control over what we did and how we did it. And, like, that's that's... You can't rug an entire collection and all the holders and still have some kind of control in what happens next. Like, that's not it. That doesn't work. So since 2023, Gary and I have been building for our launch tomorrow, which has come around real quick because for the longest time, we didn't know when we're gonna launch. And then three weeks ago, we said, right. We're going in three weeks. But, yeah, the the whole idea was was founded from the Jpunks collection, and it was to have a cool looking character that you could update how it looked. And so the way we're doing it is the the the base wrecks will stay immutable. That's the rarity that you get, and that's the character you have with those traits. But you can swap costumes and wearables and hats and all that sort of stuff to to update your look. So that was the the goal that we set out to achieve. And through Thick and Thin and several other people letting us down along the way, we finally made it to the point where we can go live tomorrow. So, yeah, super excited. [1:13:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is there a white list? I know everyone's gonna... It's gonna be in my desk. Be like, is there [1:13:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: a white list? [1:13:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's deal? Yeah. [1:13:35] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: So Yeah. [1:13:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: People wanted to [1:13:36] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: know three years for me. Basically came from the people who were holding JPunks three years ago. So if you check your wallet, Dave, and you have a JPunk from three years ago, then you're on the whitelist. So, no, we're not we're not really doing a whitelist as such. [1:13:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it. And how much is Mint? Is it? [1:13:55] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: 0.02. We're getting it as close to $50 as we can get it once we once we set the the contract in stone sometime today. But... Yeah. So the way we're doing it, we're splitting it up into two different mints, and the second chapter of the mint will happen in a few months' time. That will be where there can be, like, guaranteed spots for collections. So we... Rather than go out and try and convince other collections who we are before we go to Mint, we decided that we would put half the collection up. So there's gonna be 3,000 available for the public sale tomorrow. And once we've built that community and built the love for the product, then we go out to other collections and the second half of our Mint will be the guaranteed spots for for other projects. So for for sure, at that point, we'll have a bunch for you guys to to cement your place. But tomorrow, we're kinda doing it a little bit backwards. We're doing the public mint first tomorrow. [1:14:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it. All good. Metabeast, I know you've been a fan of what Credits has been doing. I think you've... You're an NFT holder. Talk to me, man. Enlighten us. Educate us. Educate the ATC community. What are we getting into tomorrow? And and so everybody is clear, I've known no credits forever. One of the most stand up dudes out here. You're right. His expectation setting is going to be spot on. He will never promise you a million things that you will never get. It's as real as real get. So, yeah, better be... Talk to me, man. [1:15:21] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Alright. Well, really quick. I know Milo had his hands up. If he had a question first, I'm more than welcome to let him go. But... [1:15:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Milo? Milo's not up here anymore. [1:15:31] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, yeah. His his his hands up. I saw him go down and come back up, so it's not... I... It's not just like... [1:15:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: And My bad. [1:15:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's not like just [1:15:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Milo. Cool. [1:15:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Up to... Okay. Okay. So no credits. Hey. Hell, yeah. I'm glad... So happy to hear you guys are finally meeting. I've been I've been watching them for several years as well, and I knew a little bit about the background story of it being... There there being a previous collection involved. And, yeah, I've I've seen some of the disappointments as you stated that have occurred. One was a pretty big one, unfortunately. For anyone who's ever heard of Futureverse, I know they were excited and a part of that ecosystem. And... But the... But these two guys, it's... They they have just kept going and going and going. I I see Gary in weekly Saturday x space all the time. I haven't seen you no credits for a while, but I knew you were still out there with... Especially running running by Gary. But I'm really excited for you guys to finally getting to Mint. I do have one question. Is there a three d models with it? [1:16:54] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Yes, sir. So the whole point was the previous collection claimed three d models were available, and then it became obvious a year later that they never were available and that they were making them one at a time as we asked for them. And for someone like me, he ended up with a 100. I was never gonna get all of them. Eventually, I did, but it was one of the last things they did was kind of keep to their word for those who made enough noise, but everyone else kinda missed out. So, yeah, we we have been building before we go because we want it to be live straight away. So, yes, you'll be able to download your three d model as a GLB. You'll be able to use it. There are three different levels of detail that you can enjoy on our website, but it's also been built for MML. So once the dust settles and we're all up and running, then going to other side and saying, right. This is the collection we wanna add. It's been built with that in mind. So, yeah, the the use case is to be able to use them anywhere MML is available. But, yeah, to download, to to make your own animations, you know, create your own content. One of the things we're gonna be doing with the secondary fees from the marketplace is is actually pay creators to make content with the dinosaurs. So, you know, for someone like yourself who loves creating content, then there'll be ways of you earning for that as well. [1:18:17] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I had so much fun doing that today. Dave, you're lucky you didn't get eaten. I'm just saying. But that that is so cool to hear that you have, you know, a good amount of completed project before even launching, and that... That's so unusual and refreshing. I can't... Tomorrow. Right? Five... Is it 5PM eastern? [1:18:43] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Yeah. By the time this show goes live, we'll be half an hour into the mint. So... [1:18:49] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, I have to I have to scrounge up $50 for sure. I got you. Yeah. I'm definitely... Yeah. I've been waiting too long for this. And you got... You're also... So another big thing, I guess, real quick too on that is you guys are also wearables. I know you got... That's been mentioned too. [1:19:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. [1:19:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I mean, you just said changing the traits, but I don't think people might... Some people might not fully understand what that all entails as well. [1:19:17] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Yeah. Okay. So so tomorrow at the Genesis drop, there's there's kinda two collections bundled together. One is the Rexes, and they'll never change. The other is the wearables, and they get bundled with the Rex. So if you don't like the look of what you get when you get your Rex, you can take his hat off and his shirt off and leave it at that. You can swap between. So anything that you take off one wrecks goes into a pool in your wallet that you can then put on to another. So you can mix and match your traits as you go. And we're gonna have seasonal content moving forward. And we have, like, Gary's planned up to four years worth of seasonal drops, which will introduce new costumes and new looks and outfits and collectibles. And some of those will be earnable by burning something you already have. So the idea that you get this wearable tomorrow, maybe you don't like the shirt that that the Rex is wearing, you can take it off and keep it because we'll come out with a drop where you'll be able to burn that in order to get a discount or for a full trade in for a new item. So the idea is that the the community actually has a say in the rarity of of items as we go forward. And if you have the last one of these shirts that everyone else hated and you end up with a one of one because everyone else burnt theirs, then you've got something valuable. So, yeah, the... It's it's more than just an NFT. In in fact, the whole point of doing it the way we've done it is so that, a, we don't have to get it right by tomorrow, and, b, we don't have to stop tomorrow. Tomorrow is the day we actually start. And so if you wanna come out with a ATC t shirt wearable that the Rex's can put on, then we can design that and add that as an additional wearable into the wearables collection and suddenly people can wear it. Or in fact Oh, yeah. If they don't like it. [1:21:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm on I'm on it. [1:21:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's cool. Yeah. Anybody... If anybody burnt... Oh, sweet. If anybody burns an ATC t shirt, I'll kill you. Oh my god. I could totally imagine, like, Landy is, like, a little t rex with his little mini... Like, his little, you know, t rex arms. It's so funny. [1:21:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: One last question. Yeah. What blockchain? [1:21:20] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Ethereum, sir. The king. [1:21:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: O g. O g. I... You're like, f this Robin Hood nonsense. It's fad. Is...... Robin Hood. [1:21:30] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: I mean, people were, like, immediately, you should go and you should launch on Robin Hood. And... Yeah. Maybe. But I actually like the fact that Ethereum is the longevity chain. And you can swap seven items and swap on seven more, and it's all one transaction. So we're talking a couple of cents to update the look of your NFT. And it may be that you're going into a space where you're a fan of that collection, like, for example, the Losties. If anyone here knows Peanut and the Long Lost collection, we're gonna have a trait available very soon, which is sort of a tribute for them, which is the flame head trait. So you'd able to put a flame head onto your wrecks and actually represent the Lost Ease brand in a space but as your dinosaur. And so there's ways and means of doing that. That that opens up all these opportunities to go out to other brands and say, right. We wanna add you to our collection even if it's just temporarily or as a promotional item or whatever. And so there's... Like, it it doesn't limit us. It actually opens the door for web two, web three from now on. We can only get bigger. [1:22:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love this, dude. I love this. That's so cool. It sounds like you're actually having fun doing this, which is like... I feel like is a... Is lost. You know what I mean? If you see the blue haired ninja show up to your project, close the doors. Don't let him in. You're closed for business. Like, trust me. It's... It it won't be good. You know? He'll be laughing at you on this face. Be like, I chucked it for this much money. Listen. I wish you guys all the success in in the world, but just the blue haired ninja, be careful of the blue haired ninja society. [1:23:06] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Thank you, Dave. [1:23:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'll just [1:23:07] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: let you know. Appreciate the love, brother. [1:23:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Always, bro. I'm trying to watch out here. You know? But I love that you're doing it on Ethereum, dude. I really, really do. Maybe some OGs actually might really feel the same way. You know? I know Nuna's big on Ethereum. She's like, I love Ethereum. Like, she's big on Ethereum. You know, mother chain out here. You know? So... Yeah. Good for you, dude. Good for you. Like, I always find it fascinating. Like... Because it's like, oh, should we see... You know, people joke, should we CTO this? You have to really give a shit. You have to really care, like, to to CTO and be the lead to take over somebody else's project because you genuinely love the idea of the community, whatever it was that actually brought you. Kudos to you credits for real, man. That that that... You know what? Clap is for [1:23:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: that's it, man. Wait. Remind me one more time. [1:23:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: You're gonna rug as you say. The clap is for... [1:24:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't I don't even know why... How or why I'm [1:24:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: rugging, but [1:24:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: it is what [1:24:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: it rugged right as you said, the clap is for, and then it was... You went to say every... And then you just faded off into the distance. [1:24:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was amazing. [1:24:13] Samara @thee_samara: Oh, [1:24:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: this is... Yeah. By the way, Dave, Lamar has his hand up. Not sure if he has a question for credits before we close out. [1:24:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Lamar, go ahead. It better be a question for credits. If it is, then we're have a problem with Nate. [1:24:26] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: No. No, man. Had a question for for. I've been in. Like, since you left us, like, no more we can spend. Like, feels good at. [1:24:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my goodness. I can't [1:24:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: hear You might have to take a lap, my boy. Me and you might need to get in line for, what's it called, for startling. Hold on. I'm gonna put you down. I'm gonna bring you right back up, my boy. Hold on one second. I invite you right back. See if you can come on back up. I don't know. You got... May... Maybe it's spaces. I'm I'm... Bro, I got four bars right now. Like, I don't know why it's doing... I'm on do not disturb. Nobody's here to bother me. You know? I am stressing a little bit. My god. I can't... This is, like, the worst time to, like... This is why... We're like, we need to get paid to leave. I need to buy some NFTs. This is, like, [1:25:23] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm having steering wheel. Doc no no? Did you like how doc no no was steering one on the back of one, steering one out? [1:25:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where? The wreck The wreck the one with you with the scooter? [1:25:34] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. No. I did three different ones. I did three different ones. One one was a good majority of the cast here of ATC. Land... Landy's swinging on a vine. Cool's driving driving a truck. Poor poor... I... Poor man. Poor man. She was getting eaten. [1:25:59] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: Money getting eaten. [1:26:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: That. By what? [1:26:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: A T. Rex. A dinosaur. A T. Rex. I'll post it in the chat. I'll do it again. [1:26:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Pin it to the top. Alright. Alright. Don't eat Monica, please. I need her. I know. I know. I felt I [1:26:14] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: felt bad. I just... I said do a... Do random, and it shows for... It's supposed to [1:26:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: be Why [1:26:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: is why is Dave... Well, one, Dave looks a little odd, but why is Courage the Cowardly Dog without Ears on the Bike with Dave? [1:26:28] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Was that [1:26:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's my real question. [1:26:30] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Was that my my... What's his name? The the guy who comes in first every day. Didn't he have that as a PFP? Because I swear [1:26:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: I went to get [1:26:40] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: it pictured. Yeah. Because I swear I went to get his. [1:26:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. That's just Courage the Cowardly Dog, bro. [1:26:47] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, I... It was somebody's [1:26:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: PFP. Cowardly dog. [1:26:51] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It was somebody's PFP. [1:26:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Really? [1:26:53] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And I thought it was my because I wanted I wanted to include include somebody from the listeners. [1:27:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why do hear me? Why can't why can't you say Mustafa? [1:27:03] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't... Oh, it is. Mustafa. It is Mustafa. [1:27:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Mustafa is the lion king. It's not the lion king, bro. His name is Mustafa. No. Yo. I'm sorry. I don't [1:27:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sorry. Now you're never gonna not look at that name and not think lion king. [1:27:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. He even butchered it worse. He said. Bro, it's not it's not even a name in the lion [1:27:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: king, my god. [1:27:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Just I know I had to look at it. I know it wasn't moose. I didn't think it was Mustafa. That's why I always have trouble saying that. I have to see his name in order for me to say it. [1:27:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just to remember who you are. [1:27:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. I I had to go through ATC [1:27:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: be the monkey. [1:27:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I had to go through ATC chat or comments to find him again so I could find his PFP, but I get... But I didn't... I know that's not what it is today. I could've swore that I went and got that, and it was... What is... What he had at the time. And then I thought, oh, that's kinda perfect because Dave does have a dog. [1:27:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bro, that is just straight up Courage Cowardly Dog. [1:28:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, I didn't go get Courage the Cowardly Dog. Somebody had it as their PFD. [1:28:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: You were like, you know what? Courage cowardly dog. There we go. [1:28:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what we care. We'll take a year, man. Yeah. But credit's really good good stuff. I'm looking forward to it, man. Did you want to pin... Wait. Did you pin the... Pin it up to the top, bro. Like, the the the... Any of the mint information or whatever. Are you minting on open... On OpenSea or... [1:28:29] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: No. We're just gonna mint on our own site. We did consider OpenSea, but the fees that they take didn't really make it worthwhile. And once you get your mint, you get an unrevealed and you can choose when to reveal it. When it... When you click to reveal, it will randomly select from the entire pool. So there's no way we know what you've got until you reveal it. And then... So you can... If you wanted to mint one and then sell it later unrevealed, you can do that. But because you're then gonna be swapping items on and off on our website anyway, we figured we might as well just do the whole thing through the site. It's at tribe called rex.com, but I can't actually post here because I'm on my PC. So Oh. I'll get you to... [1:29:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're good. You're good. You're good. Alright. Good stuff, man.... [1:29:14] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Send you a link which you could post up. [1:29:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I can pin it up. For sure. Send it over to me, and then I'll I'll pin it up. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. Good stuff. Thank you for coming to share. [1:29:22] Samara @thee_samara: Thank you [1:29:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: for letting me...... See if we... Always, man. Always, man. Always welcome up here. Lamar, welcome, man. What's up, Latif? We got you back. [1:29:29] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: Yeah. Yeah, man. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. David, was... I'll be expecting the link for the for the star link. The... My question is to see... [1:29:40] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: My question is to Samava because when he was when he was speaking, he said about... He said something about public booths, I think. So I didn't I didn't know who was talking at that moment. But I think the person was saying that I was thinking that he would drop it in the comment link. Yeah. Or maybe... I think maybe there's maybe a group, maybe a TG group or... I don't know. Look, I don't know. So just let me just ask because I think my network my network also also broke me down there, I I couldn't get the end of the call when I... Where someone was talking. Yeah. Thank you. [1:30:09] Samara @thee_samara: No. No. No. He... Dave recommended someone I should talk to, and that's what's, you know, I'm going to do. So... Yeah. [1:30:17] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: Alright. Alright. Alright. Thank you. [1:30:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let me let me let me get let me get that name right now actually before I forget. I'm just gonna ask in the DJ guys. What... Who had... Who sells the bot... The NFT bot? [1:30:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I just asked them to chat tomorrow. So, hopefully, what... These DGNs, some of them are still awake. These guys are printing one. One of these guys had a crazy win on pawns. I think it was something like 12000% or something crazy. Are you guys using ponds? Like, is social selling the thing now, like, FOMO, like, and all these things? Like, is this where is this where things are? Like, I mean, if I'm being honest, like, 99 purse... Point 9% of these people have no clue what they're talking about, but yet everyone's posting, oh my god. I made a freaking 1,200 x. I made 18... It's like, okay. I I really don't know what to believe anymore. Also, you know, obviously, like, it's a little bit tough, but I don't know. I don't know. And I'm having serious FOMO over these print scan ones because the founder was like, oh, they're just PFPs. Don't overthink it. And I just see a post that's like, he minted 10 on on on this on the stealth public mint and then swept another 10 off of secondary immediately after. And he's telling us, don't overthink it. Mhmm. I think there's there's rumors now or somebody put a post up saying... Or I think it might have been Sergio. I gotta check it out. That they might be eligible for dividends for, like, Quotron dividends. So I don't know. I don't know. That's Maybe you attach yourself. [1:31:45] Samara @thee_samara: Us inside right there. Mean, it'll be right here. [1:31:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: There's even a guy that just posted... There's a guy that just posted, [1:31:52] Milo @0dteSPY: like, an hour ago. He got the... He got free men to a $100 on a 105 wallets. [1:31:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. I saw that. Yeah. I see. I'm in I'm in this chat. I don't know. Some crazy person added me to this chat. Right? Like, I made some ridiculously... Some insane AI Quotron song yesterday. They're like, you guys need to have an anthem. And they're like, yo. This is a bumper. It was my best performing post in probably, like, three months. I'm trying to get on the creator rewards leaderboard for September out here. But I'm like, hey, everybody. I'm like out there shaking my cup. You know? I'm the guy, like, on the sidewalk. I'm like, hey. Hey. Hey, Cortrons. Anybody got any extra PFPs lying around? Nobody's yet to bless me with one, but I'm like, I'll buy one. Let me know. Just... Time for $200. You know? But we'll see. Samara, did you miss the four zero four machines? [1:32:39] Samara @thee_samara: No. I didn't. I missed that, actually. I missed [1:32:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, bro. How are you in this... The one the one call that I make, bro. The one. Literally, I'm... I don't... I didn't call any other NFT project, the 1 $500 floor. And this thing's gonna this thing's gonna continue to cook, by the way. Continue to cook. [1:32:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: And the fucking What's the floor price [1:32:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: right said they... I'll tell you right now. It is... Hold on. The $40.04 machine. Get out of here, Robin Hood toy. Nobody wants to see you toy. $453. 100 k in volume. So far, 305 k. Today was the forge where they had... You know, where they dropped the token and you have to burn the token. That token, 7... Last I saw this afternoon was 7,800,000 FTD. I mean, that's, I think, like, double... Technically, like, par. It's like... That's, like, double the floor price of the NFT. So I don't know. Like, there could be... Maybe it's a little overhype. I have no idea. But all I know is the Quotrons are going to 30 ETH. Like, I'm I'm I'm convinced. These are money guys. These are big money guys in here who have degenerate tendencies also. So they literally are just competing each other. Big swinging dicks are coming over from fucking hyper liquid, bidding up, like, literally a wallet for... That had $30,000,000 in it. Who holds $30,000,000 in a wallet? That's number one. I I don't understand. But wallet that had 30,000,000 literally swept 20 Quotrons the other day. Took it from two and a half to almost four e floor. Like, we're... Like, this is not my league. I don't know what I'm doing in here. But, Landy, come get your friends. Can you buy one so that we... I can pretend to know somebody cool and Wait. What am I buying? 404. [1:34:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can can you buy five? [1:34:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. Yeah. [1:34:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Am buying four? Why am I buying four? [1:34:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. No. We don't need you to buy four. Like, we just need you to buy one Quotron. [1:34:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: What if I just [1:34:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I just wanna bless us with a five formation. [1:34:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: That you dropped in the chat. [1:34:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Which one? You could buy that one. I mean, that's the cheap one. I mean, if you [1:34:35] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: wanna give it [1:34:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: to you. It's I [1:34:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't think it's [1:34:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: because why am I spending money on any [1:34:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: of this? [1:34:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why are you I pay attention when you talk. Why are you not paying attention when I [1:34:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: talk to somebody? Of these collections are or what they do. See, I trade real traditional markets and options where I can where I can buy a lot of a 100 options on Nvidia on the cheap and trade it in a day and make more [1:34:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: money than any of these [1:34:57] Samara @thee_samara: things are [1:34:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: gonna do. [1:34:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: And that's that's the point, Landon. It's not the point. The point doesn't always have to be money. Okay? It could be help your friend, to your friends, you know, the friends we made. What is it? The friends we made on way? [1:35:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bro, I had 5,000 options contracts on c l one that I just sold off over the past couple of days on this spike up in oil. Like, why do I care about any of this stuff is really the way that I think about it. Like, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna mint no credit stuff tomorrow. [1:35:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm not helping because I I I agree with with with lending. [1:35:30] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, I have five urchin friend. [1:35:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, me too. Oh my god. Me too. [1:35:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: But [1:35:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're up a 197%, up to 79¢ now. Everybody go get your pocketbooks. We're gonna sprinkle some money in there. Insanity. [1:35:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: So, like, I I... Like, there's What? What what is the 404 Floor at? [1:35:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: The 404 machine is $453. [1:35:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. [1:35:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. 451. Sorry. Sorry. 451. So You know, hates it when I quote things in US dollars. She's like, hey. [1:36:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you quote Oh, for me, it's the opposite. [1:36:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: You... Yeah. I'm like, but you said it yourself. You don't even know what this is. [1:36:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: You, like, [1:36:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: you can't even do it. Like, you think, like, oh, point o three e's. It's like, oh, that's it. Yeah. I'll buy a couple of these off the floor. You think it's, like, monopoly money I have. [1:36:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: I like the [1:36:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: whole institution, [1:36:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: but I don't know how many bundled wallets that is. [1:36:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: That's It [1:36:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: was it was a few. One guy had, like, a 100 something or what... Oh, four zero four machine? Mhmm. Oh, four zero four machine was... Wait. How many total now? Why does it still say 15... Wait. Let me just refresh. It still says 15 o two. There should have been way more. There was 1,500 yesterday. I don't know why OpenSea hasn't updated it, or maybe nobody minted. That... No. That's crazy. Nobody minted today. That'd be insane. Yesterday was the first stage, 1,500. And then today was the second stage where it's like you had to buy the token to forge the other 2,500 that were available. So that's easily 4,000. So, Landy, those numbers are gonna change drastically. And, also, maybe people are gonna be throwing theirs on the floor or maybe some... Like, maybe people actually got smart, and they're just like, let me drip some of these out if I have multiple and not slam the fucking floor and crush the floor price. Who knows? Ink people are way so Am [1:37:15] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I gonna regret not getting a Blanco? [1:37:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have no idea, bro. Blancos... AMG knows Blancos. Did that turn out to be fake or no? [1:37:22] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. It was terrible. [1:37:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Like What happened? [1:37:25] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh my god. [1:37:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: What happened to the... What was it? The eight bits NFT collection? Was it eight bits or eight eight gigs? [1:37:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, what... What's that? I don't even what that is. 10,000 ways to die or die? 90,000 ways. [1:37:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. No. Hold on. [1:37:41] Samara @thee_samara: Let me Okay. [1:37:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Go go ahead. [1:37:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why don't I look for this one? Lamar, you should you should just call Samara at this point. You know what I mean? Just give him a... Just call him [1:37:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: on the phone. You know? Eight bit. That's what [1:37:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm I'm not as big now. [1:37:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not someone with me now. I'm So I... Because I just [1:37:58] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: know for someone, like, I just want to drill out, like, I don't know, like, call... I think it's x now. I I just want to know what's... Like, we just spoke now. I would love to be the person that followed. Like, I love to buy it. I'm definitely not a person already. Or is it Dave? [1:38:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. No. That's the all things crypto account, but that's Nat Nat behind the ATC account. [1:38:16] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: Yeah. But... [1:38:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: And you should probably follow Nat Nat too. But she's also... She says she's 25, she's not really 25. She doesn't know how to use technology very well. So she had to leave on her account. She couldn't... She didn't know how to work both in the same time. Obviously, it's a very big multitask. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [1:38:34] Lamar @bumzzylamar1: Alright. Thank you, man. Alright. Thank you. Yeah. [1:38:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, man. Yeah. For sure, bro. We host this space every day, my guy. Every day. Every day. Every day. Every Okay. Yeah. Monday, Tuesday... Sorry. I said every day. You hear me? Like, every day, every day. Like, if it's, like, literally seven days. It's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday from 05:30 to 7PM eastern time. It's ninety minutes. And sometimes they let me get through a bunch of stories. But as expected today, they only let me get through a couple. I mean, who cares? Well, I guess we'll talk about Fed decision and recuts and FOMC as time gets a little bit closer. Yeah. Any other... Anything... Any any other... Actually, Samar, I have a question for you. Any other mints? Obviously, guys, make sure you go check out no credits in the tribe called Rex Mint. Samar, any mints coming up tomorrow? [1:39:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: No? Samar's like, I'm not sharing this. No. He's he's he's not done. He has [1:39:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: to set up his [1:39:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: bot first. Send me the bot, bitch, and then I'll tell you. [1:39:31] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. I was I was muted. Tomorrow, we have Everdraw. That's the one I'm expecting. It's on Solana. It's like a TCG game. I'll come in Solana. I think the checker comes out this... Today, come in a couple of hours, so that's what I'm actually expecting. And [1:39:52] Samara @thee_samara: the day after tomorrow, I think there's one called Goofy's. I don't know. Goofy's. Those are those are two. And what else? What else? What else? What else? [1:40:03] Samara @thee_samara: Then the fifteenth, we have the p u x the p u x. I think the the main price is, like, $19. It's on the fifteenth. But tomorrow is Everdraw. That's what we're all expecting. And CocoMoji. CocoMoji has, like, a presale if anyone wants to participate. It's currently $88 or $90. So 0 point 033E for NeNeo. 0 point 033E. So you can choose to participate. It started, like, couple hours ago. You have twenty four hours to participate participate in the raffle. If you don't get picked, you get refunded. I don't know if... I don't know what's that... What's gonna happen to that one, but you can participate and see what happens. Personally, I don't know. I'm [1:40:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: So do you have to give money up front just in case you get picked? [1:40:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: You don't remember this meta? You just said Yeah. One. Pray to god, Natalie. This was a huge meta. You don't remember Bend. East? Oh my god. What was the other project recently? They got 50. The blockies, they got 15,000 Eats or some insanity for, like, a $750,000 raise. Like, in what world do these people know? [1:41:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: And do they really refund the money, or do [1:41:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: they say, oh my god. We were half No. They do. No. No. They do. No. They do. No. They do. They do. I mean, mean, most most do. And probably the ones we don't hear about. The ones that don't, you may never heard about them again. So it is what it is. And no one's gonna be dumb enough to be like, I sent my money to the... I mean, in 2022, they did, these idiots. I sent you seventy day. Prepare to hear from my lawyer. You schmuck. You literally sent it to an on chain address of a of a... An account that has a monkey PFP with a guy that sounds like fucking... I mean, come on. This is insane. But how... Samar, how much have they... How much have people committed so far to the to the... What's it called? [1:41:41] Samara @thee_samara: Yeah. I haven't even checked, to be honest. I haven't Oh my god. [1:41:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't even wanna know, bro. I don't even [1:41:46] Samara @thee_samara: wanna know. I'm I'm thinking about it, to be honest. Because at first, we thought it just gonna be, like, normal OpenC Link, check your eligibility, because they gave, like, a bunch of OG rules to people who joined the Discord servers, but now the OG rules don't mean anything. Like, that doesn't mean anything. And then they just said, you know, float out of the raffle. To enter the raffle, you need O point 33... O point O33 east to join the raffle. And, you know, in twenty four hours, you you know... Yeah. It's over in twenty four hours. People who don't get accepted, you get refunded. I don't know, man. I'm just looking at it. I wanna do it, I think, like, in an hour or... I'll I'll decide. But then something happened to the sites where they had to literally put some things on pause and just... I don't know, man. See, I'm just getting red flags. I'm like, nah. Nah. So I'm just I'm just waiting to see what happens. Last minute, maybe I'll just throw in the money there, but I'm just waiting to see what happens. Because I wanna see the price of Everdraw because I have GTV for that. I'm a give out one, So I'm just basically just waiting to see what happens. I still have, like, what, twelve hours to decide or more than that to decide. So we'll see what happens. See what happens. [1:42:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Keep printing money out here, bro. But it's one thing Samara is is consistent, goddamn it. He's... You will always see a print on Samara's timeline of some money today. Like, there's money in front [1:43:04] Samara @thee_samara: of Samara. Give me money. Yeah. It's it's just that, bro. The money adds up. Like, when you you calculate $300 from here, a 100 from here, 500 from here, in a month, you see, like, $6,000. You'd be like, oh, okay. So I just realized that, bro, just pick as much as you can. It's magic Internet money, bro. And, again, most of these things just basically have to type in your phone to get them. Like, NFTs, you basically have to type in your phone to get this white esports, and it's not that crazy compared to a doctor or compared to what Landy is doing, trading options and making a million dollars every month. You know? It's... You know, NFTs just [1:43:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Options are a lot easy to trade, though, by [1:43:39] Samara @thee_samara: the way. [1:43:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my gosh. Stop that. You're making... You're literally talking Okay. The apples and oranges. We're talking apples and and cactus fruit. Like, [1:43:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: what are saying? [1:43:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's insane. But, Samara, I I honestly... And I'm saying this, like, semi chill, but I really would love to see you freaking with a $25,000 prop account. Like, spend a couple $100, get $25, and and and you have all the leverage in the world to be able to trade some of these things. And I would love for you to come in and just be like, I made more money than Landy today. And what did you do? Like, know what I mean? Like, just listen. If you could if you could trade and spot the levels, bro, I'll tell you right now. There's a there's a there's a place for you out here, and it could be good. Yeah. I'm saying. [1:44:21] Samara @thee_samara: I don't think anyone can trade more than Nat Nat and Landy at this point. Like, these dudes are just [1:44:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a fact. [1:44:25] Samara @thee_samara: They knew this. That's a fact. Like, I hear them, like, talk about certain things. I'm like, oh, hell no. Like like, no way. No way. Like, I can't I can't do that. You know? But, yeah, shout out to them. They're actually doing great things. Who knows? In the future, I might be like, you know what? I wanna go full trader mode. I'll just be like, bro, please put... You know, teach me this stuff. Teach me your ways, masters. And... Yeah. [1:44:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just wait. Wait. Because what's gonna happen is all of crypto will be taken over by TradFi tickers. And, therefore, you will need to know about what's happening in traditional markets because that's where the liquidity is gonna be. And more and more of these NFTs and more and more of these meme coins are gonna be paired with actual tokenized equities and stocks, and it's... That's the way things are going. So we we are all going to crash into each other. Meme coin aficionados are literally crashing into traditional market players this very moment. The fact of the matter is, though, 99.9 of the Meme coiners that are buying these things that supposedly have baskets of tokenized equities and tokenized stocks are just buying tickers that are paired with other tickers that are paired with liquidity pools that are paired to nothing. Nothing. And, therefore, there is... And and even when there is something that's paired to it, liquidity pools are stupidly tiny. So good luck if you all try to sell. [1:45:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, good... Your NVIDIA stock ticker, the thing that you are trading is not [1:45:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: NVIDIA is liquid. NVIDIA is very liquid. Don't you knock NVIDIA. [1:46:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's extremely liquid on Robinhood. Is liquid because it has the underlying stock, sir. [1:46:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, right. Right. Right. Oh, it does? [1:46:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: NVIDIA X does? NVIDIA X is not the perps. Perps are just liquidity pools. [1:46:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, perps. Yeah. [1:46:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Those are just liquidity pools, but NVIDIA X, the token from Ondo, actually has the underlying one to one paired stock. Did you... Not what you're getting in any of these basket tokenized freaking NFT plays of, hey. Look. You're gonna get NVIDIA stock. No. You're not. [1:46:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: My brain still doesn't understand [1:46:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: compared to a $5 liquidity pool. Good luck. [1:46:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: My brain still doesn't understand that. So why would I buy a $10,000 NFT to get NVIDIA stock when I can just put 10,000 into the NVIDIA stock? [1:46:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: Exactly. [1:46:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Because you're getting fees from all the NFT trading and stuff, man, like, stock brokers and stocks. [1:46:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: If you believe it, I believe it. [1:46:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know [1:46:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: what I mean? Paying the brokers [1:46:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: stunky stunk. [1:46:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: We're already paying the brokers a freaking fee. Alright? I'm paying CME fees to freaking trade on CME, And I I had to I had to get licensed and and had to go through my business. I had to get a background check. I had to... Literally, I had to go to the doctors, and they had to make sure I was actually a human and not a puppet. Like [1:47:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, wait. So you're not a... Uh-huh. [1:47:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I I am actually a puppet. [1:47:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: False advertising. Wait. I will tell you this. I I was I was on a platform today [1:47:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, choose a platform. [1:47:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. I was I was I was was checking out a platform. [1:47:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not OnlyFans. Right? [1:47:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a marketplace for buying, selling, and tokenizing real world assets. Right? So I'm like, okay. Like, this should be interesting. Right? Like, let me let me take a look at what these guys are actually doing. Right? So the the site is really... It's it's really incredible. It's really, really cool. But when you... I started reading, like, the research and and everything behind it, and I'm talking to Grok about it. We're doing a deep dive on it, the whole nine yards. And you... I come to find out... Check this out. Because this is what I found really, really fascinating is the majority of, like, what we know as, like, the big firms and real world asset companies. Right? Like, the majority of them don't have proof of reserve. Right? Like Yeah. That's literally, like, gold. Yeah. They they just don't. It's just like They don't have to. Yeah. I mean, I guess BlackRock, like, is BlackRock. Right? Like, I get that. But I don't know. Like, at the end of the day, I'm not saying trust the Joe Schmo that's launching a meme coin saying it's an RWA. But, like, at the end of the day, shouldn't... I mean, I feel like we should be there. Right? There's one for soy... Like, for wheat and soybeans that's now launching a stable coin. [1:48:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not sure [1:48:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: what, like, kind of are, [1:48:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: but I know what soybeans [1:48:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, so so... [1:48:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait. Which one? Soybeans. [1:48:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: You said soya. Hey. Oh, [1:48:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: wait. What's the soy [1:48:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: over You know what it is? You can tell you can tell Dave Dave and I, we've been hanging about Goya beans. [1:49:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Way too much to know. Yeah. That's [1:49:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: crazy. That's right, Dave. Goya beans. [1:49:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. So, like... But they're they're making, like... There's a... Like, it's like agra agra... What's it called? Agro... No. Agriculture, but there's a term for it, like, agra... Agricon. I forgot what it is. But, like, the... It's a whole industry. Term. [1:49:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. [1:49:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, bank... No. No. This is a thing. I think Elon's even invested in it. Like, I I remember this a little bit ago. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, like, at the end of the day, it's like, okay. Like, Bank of Santander is actually backing, like, the the the stablecoin. And I'm just like, wow. Okay. And it's like, it's equivalent to, like, one, like, one ton of wheat or whatever. Right? Like, stored here. But now it's like, you have to go through those checks. Remember how we always talk about what... Like, yeah, the NFT is the token, but who's gonna go through the pain of, like, verifying, like, who issued the token? Where are they from? What was the qualification to trade it? These guys actually did that. But now the question is, how long can they stay in business? Because, ultimately, who's going to come trade on your platform that's here that's gonna either do have to be KYC. There's some. Some are accredited investors. Some are... The majority of them, right, that are... That have any liquidity are out of The US. Right? That makes a lot of sense. So I just found it really interesting that these guys are actually taking on the task of, like, we wanna know who's behind this because we think it's gonna be big, and we think we're early. And they might be... The question is, like, how does this actually shake out? But I just thought it was really interesting being that we're on the topic. Yeah. Go ahead, Lindy. [1:50:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: The the biggest... My biggest pet peeve right now is that all of this Robinhood stuff that's happening is, you know, with all of these, we're gonna pair with, you know, tokenized stocks and all of this kind of stuff, is that those tokenized stocks don't have custody of the underlying stock. Like, almost 99% of them are just tickers. They're just stock tickers. I've said this before. I will say it again. It's a ticker paired with the liquidity pool, and then Oracle and index are pegged to the price of the actual stock. It's not actually the stock. Now there is some dividend pass through that's happening through official Robinhood tokenized stocks. Even they can... Are not and have been explicit that they're not delivering the underlying. In the EU, they have to. In The United States, they don't have to. They can literally... It's just a leverage trade on top of it. It's literally paper. It's a paper trade. It's open interest on their books. That's what the tokens are. So what you have to understand is until there is legitimate regulation, and and it's gonna take a little while, even after all the comments are in and the SEC decides what they're gonna do and CFTC decides what they're gonna do, the one to one backing has to be... It... It's going to be a mandatory thing. And you're gonna see a bunch of tokens that are like NVIDIA and Tesla and SpaceX on chains like Robinhood that are just gonna get axed. I'm telling you the day is coming, and they will be the villains for this. They are going to be the villains, but that's because they're gonna prop up the liquidity. They're gonna have the custodians for the underlying assets to be deliverable on chain. This is going to happen. You cannot stop it. I don't care if you're ahead of a project. Good luck. Because you're gonna have to transfer all those tokens before they absolutely, tell you to open your mouth while they poo right in it. [1:52:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: They... They're going full on. [1:52:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Right down your throat. And good luck. So enjoy the ride. Take your profits. Have fun. These are not long term investment vehicles. If you want long term investments into NVIDIA and SpaceX and all this stuff, go and buy it on the Lowe's and sit there and let it sit in your portfolio for your... For yourself and your kids. [1:52:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Speaking of Like Sorry, Nelly. Go ahead. [1:52:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was just gonna say I know that, Jesus is probably calling because Jesus is calling me at this point. I gotta use the bathroom. [1:53:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. So dancing and [1:53:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: dancing be [1:53:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: praying for my own life. [1:53:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: But before... So so before I hand back over to Dave, I don't know if you guys have been, frequenting the wolf Bitcoin space. Right? We were talking about charts. Landy said something extremely funny. Yeah. Was it yesterday or the day before? When the chart is, like, really ugly and it's just horrendous, he goes... He's like, that is a chart only a mother would love. And I thought, yeah, that was so funny. [1:53:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's crazy. Unless your last name is Clancy. [1:53:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: True that? Clancy. True that? [1:53:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't don't worry about it, Dave. Let's not go down that road. [1:53:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Right. The jokes [1:53:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: simmer with everyone else except you. [1:53:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I just... I remember tapping into David Wolf, and there was just dad jokes going all around, and people were excited about the dad jokes. Oh. And I was just like too. Yeah. You missed it. I was like, this is this is insanity right now. Don't I even know what the hell is going on over here. Anyways, guys, no credits. I will tell you this. I love you, but you are also terrible at self promotion. Meta Beast put up the post, with the actual mid link for tomorrow. It was nowhere to be found on no credits page. Do not let this reflect badly on him as a founder. I promise he's a good dude. He said we're all a little unorganized sometimes, and I'm kidding. I pinned it up to the top. So if you guys can, go show some love [1:54:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: support if you want a couple extra bucks. Seriously. That too. [1:54:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Man, I love that image. I love that image. Great job. [1:54:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cancel. I'm gonna show you. Cancel on them. Wait. Hey. You better be careful. I see you using the ATC name out there. You're trying to biggest... Give yourself a little bit of clout. I see you out there. [1:54:43] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't need it. [1:54:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't need it. The ATC name for [1:54:46] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: what I got my Uh-huh. Enough people don't know who I am. That's... That works just fine and well. [1:54:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. Exactly. Like, you're missing out on a whole... Hold on. I'll tell you exact follower count. 523 additional people that don't know who you are. You know? So They [1:55:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: don't want to. They don't want to. Yeah. Me too. [1:55:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [1:55:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I contributed. Hey. I've contributed. I did pretty well. [1:55:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: You did. As long as you never host [1:55:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: another proud of myself. That never happens. [1:55:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'll be I'll be down I'll be down for him to host another show. [1:55:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Now for what? [1:55:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: What do you mean? [1:55:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nobody said nothing. Nobody said a word. Nobody said a word. Credits, what's up? You unorganized son of a bitch. What's good? [1:55:25] 🦖NoCredits_ @NoCredits_: Thank you, Dave. I did actually send you a couple of things, but Metabeast one is lovely. No. I appreciate that and appreciate you giving me the stage to to talk about my little fun little project. But, you know, as you said, I've been a a fan of all things crypto for a couple of years now. So it's awesome to it's awesome to sort of have that full circle where I get to come back and actually be one of the people up on stage promoting something. But I appreciate you and your team, so thank you very much. [1:55:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hell, yes. Let's go. 100%. Credits, I'm gonna kick you down for a second because from what I'm from what I'm gonna say next, Nat, I just want you to know that No Credits was not a fan of your no cursing thing to the point where he was... This was two years ago. He was like, I don't understand. Like, why do we... You can't get... This is the authenticity of the show. And I'm like, I'm with you. No credits. I think we should fire her. But then we asked Cole to fire you, and he didn't. He he bitched out. So... [1:56:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you... Yeah. So you mean the the the the no cursing that you approved? [1:56:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: That one? I I I didn't... I mean, I Uh-huh. [1:56:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You think you can clarify too. He is from New Zealand. So [1:56:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's also true. He living in the future. [1:56:34] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And totally different culture. [1:56:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Totally different culture. Totally different culture. Alright, guys. If I'm gonna go check the vest board right now, I'm gonna shame every one of you that didn't sign up using the affiliate link. Hold on a second. Oh, we're up to 10, Natalie. Let's go. Alright. Guys, we are cooking. Appreciate you guys. Love this. I even had a couple really serious inquiries that are like, dude, is this for real? And I'm like, yeah. I feel like some people are just discovering, like, prop accounts where they're just like, wait. Wait. Wait. So I spend $38. They give me $5,000 of buying power... $5,000 that I can then lever up at, like like, out the ass? Yeah. Pretty much. Oh. That's what I did the first time. Oh, I [1:57:14] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I got my... I I I got the money thing today on x. What [1:57:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: what money? I got the $15. X money? Yeah. Oh, nice. That's like b tier. We got $25, but nice for [1:57:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I didn't think... I I was like, oh oh, hell no. I I thought I would never ever ever get there. [1:57:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. That's great, dude. Wait. Actually, I saw it on the whole thing's crypto too. Nat, check the account. We're gonna have to split it. You know what? You guys are gonna get paid. X money. Alright? X money for everybody. We got fit... Nat, how much we got in there? How much did Elon Can you check real quick? [1:57:48] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Put it towards a Quotron. [1:57:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Oh, yeah. What? We're buy a point o o o one of a Quotron? I tried that once. It didn't work. It didn't work. Although my $10 did turn into, like, 40 something dollars. But what are gonna do? [1:58:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: It doesn't say we have x money. Oh, [1:58:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: damn. What? For real? What? I thought we... I could've sworn I said I had x money. Damn. Maybe you just enabled us. You didn't even give us a deposit. That's cold, Elon. That's cold. Anyways... Alright. That's it, guys. Also, if you did sign up with any of the links for Vest, there is a Telegram channel that then can lead to another private Telegram channel, but we're dropping calls in there from, the chart beta bot. We've been cooking on it. Nat, has been obviously putting her 2¢ in. It's been amazing. We've been tweaking it. It's been great. It's been really, really great. Landy gave us some great ideas, bits of wealth, some great ideas today. So we're still updating it as well. But you sit in there, if you don't know what to do with the money that they... That that Vest gave you to be able to trade, come into the telegram and check it out. Even if you wanna learn how to trade, come check it out. I think it's a good time. We're having a a blast doing it. Hopefully, I don't blow up the second account that they give me. And I can actually make some money and actually learn a thing or two about a thing or two and listen to the bot. But that's it. Jesus is for everyone. The clap is... We are out. Hope you all have a great one, man. I'll see you tomorrow. Peace. [1:59:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Let's go, Bobby. [1:59:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
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