ATC: Capital Markets Discussion

# ATC: Capital Markets Discussion | 2026-09-24 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1NxaroXelDEKj | status: approved
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[0:00:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. Great job. Okay.
[0:00:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I never want you all to be hanging out there. You know what I'm saying? I know what it's like. I know what it's like.
[0:00:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. Record breaking, David. Look at you.
[0:00:51] Moni @monitalan: How are you feeling?
[0:00:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat, I even had to refresh the page once or twice. I'm like, what she doing? Like, how are you not sitting there waiting by the button? Like, what's going on? You know?
[0:01:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Beautiful. Beautiful. I am doing doing doing pretty well. Yeah. How are you?
[0:01:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's good. I'm good. I'm good. Just been keeping busy. Just... I finally put... I finally have a decent working version of the website that I'm okay with, and I'm just like, at this point, like, it is what it is. Now it's time to go out and get the business. You know? It doesn't matter.
[0:01:22] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Cool.
[0:01:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: What... The web... The fucking website could look... It could be a million bucks, but at the end of the
[0:01:26] Moni @monitalan: day Why I was gonna tell you that that's why Ramona hasn't focused on her website. Actually, she's registering, copywriting some of her systems.
[0:01:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Smart.
[0:01:36] Moni @monitalan: That's what she's
[0:01:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: been working. That actually reminds me of great... This is great timing. I actually got the intro today to that company, Money, so I'm definitely gonna reach out to her a 100%.
[0:01:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay.
[0:01:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Yeah. Oh my god. It works out that they're, like, super security conscious because, like, I want... My cousin wanted me to, like, just connect his work Gmail, you know, and just kinda build him the dashboard, whatever. And he's like, dude, if we do this, the whole world's gonna have access to the Gina group emails. It's just like, bro, you use Microsoft Outlook three sixty five. You think, like, the enterprise version of OpenAI is gonna be like, that's what you're worried about? Like, they're
[0:02:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: gonna train on our data. Really? Okay.
[0:02:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: See on your own phone, bro. But it is what it is. But, yeah, man. I'm good. Down the rabbit hole.
[0:02:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm so proud of you. I think this I think this is going to be very, very great for you, David. I know and I believe that you'll get a lot of clients out of this 100%.
[0:02:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Tell Jesus I said thank you.
[0:02:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, for Jesus, he said thank you. He said you're welcome.
[0:02:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Clap is to Jesus too.
[0:02:45] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Monica, She's
[0:02:50] Moni @monitalan: in September. Thank you. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I'm good. Thank you. But, you know, trying to keep up with DocNooNoo. That's okay. I'm like, by the time I look at something, I'm like, it's gone. She's so fast.
[0:03:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: And go rest. Go rest.
[0:03:09] Moni @monitalan: Me or or your baby?
[0:03:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. You said shh, money. Rest.
[0:03:13] Moni @monitalan: No. I was to my daughter. I'm
[0:03:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: so sorry. I was talking to my daughter, guys. I apologize. I forgot that the mic was on. I'm glad everyone's well. And, Metabeast, oh my goodness. Thank you so much for sharing the news. I really do appreciate it. Some very interesting stuff happening all over. A lot a lot to cover today. My goodness. Thank you. Thank you so much, Metabeast, and DocNooNoo and everybody that that shared news. Made it so much easier to just set up the space.
[0:03:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: You better be... Better get started before Landy gets there because if RealQuick gets going, it's a fucking wrap. And don't thank Meta Beast. Okay? He's out there causing havoc in the Discord. That thing just left me high and dry.
[0:03:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I can't help, your freaking your bot is all whack whack. Man, my my freaking Discord notifications went haywire sometime after that.
[0:04:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a learning process. Okay?
[0:04:08] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: She's like, what the hell?
[0:04:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dude, she dropped me in the middle of the fucking ocean. Sorry. She dropped me in the middle of the ocean, and she's like, she knew I couldn't swim. She's like, you know what? You're gonna figure it out.
[0:04:17] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Sink or swim.
[0:04:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: And she went to sleep. So I'm not sinking, and I'm not swimming. You just have to deal with a ball in the general chat
[0:04:26] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: in the general have have an all things crypto. You have the puppet. You have a gold. You have a bear and a bull and an LFG all in your emojis.
[0:04:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Love that. Love that. How do we... Hey. Are we admins now? Like, we ban DocNooNoo from the server or no?
[0:04:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: Why would we wanna ban DocNooNoo?
[0:04:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: If I'm an admin, I could do what I want. I could
[0:04:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: do We are not we are not banning DocNooNoo. DocNooNoo is untouchable. DocNooNoo, if they touch you and ban you, let me know, girl. I got you.
[0:05:00] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't know that I have admin, but she she added a voice chat for me. Why would I why would I ban her?
[0:05:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm just saying. Like, you... She... She's like, oh, I have to give you... If you're gonna do... I have to give you admin. She literally gave me the admin permissions and then went to sleep. I'm like, this is this is some diabolical
[0:05:17] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You had to play right then or what?
[0:05:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. She... Like, I was like, I hate this coach. She was like, fine. I'll do it. She's like, you know, you're gonna have to take over. And I'm like, okay. Fine. If you quit, you quit. It is what it is. But, also, DocNooNoo, if you quit, you should tell the rest of the crew. Okay? You should... You need to get up here. You need to tell everybody you quit.
[0:05:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And he told me you walked off the job with no words.
[0:05:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: So DocNooNoo is not allowed to quit. Okay? This is Hotel California, girl.
[0:05:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what I'm saying.
[0:05:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what
[0:05:44] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I mean?
[0:05:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's what
[0:05:45] Moni @monitalan: I'm saying. As long
[0:05:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: as we're on all on the same page with that.
[0:05:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Where is everybody?
[0:05:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't know. I was just about to ask you that.
[0:05:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: The hell?
[0:05:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Might just be all five of us today.
[0:05:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Looks like you ain't so popular. You should
[0:06:00] Moni @monitalan: change the the title. Change the title to talk about the hack that's ongoing as we speak.
[0:06:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Should we plug Sooey? Be like, Heath hacked. Bye, Sooey. Did you see that guy?
[0:06:15] Moni @monitalan: Awful. Did you you saw
[0:06:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: that, though? Look. The story that DocNooNoo shared in the chat the story that DocNooNoo shared in chat with guys, like,
[0:06:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: $1,930,000 at East. It's gone going. And then
[0:06:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: he's his own first comment, and he goes, by the way, don't forget, you can buy a sui and do trays over
[0:06:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: here here here and here. It's like mother.
[0:06:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Talk about an opportunity when you see one. Right?
[0:06:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly.
[0:06:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Milos, give me another question.
[0:06:39] Moni @monitalan: About the Discord. So what happened to the other Discord?
[0:06:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: DocNooNoo nuked it. She kicked us all out. I told you guys, you wondered where you were. I rescued you. I saved you. If it wasn't for me, you wouldn't even... You
[0:06:53] Moni @monitalan: got Sorry.
[0:06:54] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Sorry, David. Did you just decide to come on the show today and think I'm just gonna lie and lie and lie and keep lying? Like, what's going on?
[0:07:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: You never come up. What the hell? Why... What are doing here?
[0:07:04] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I'm here to call out your bullshit.
[0:07:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hold on. Let me get the the popcorn. One second. One second.
[0:07:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you not go to sleep last night after dumping me in the middle of the disc ord ring?
[0:07:13] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I'm sorry for sleeping at 5AM. I do apologize.
[0:07:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. You got us used to, like, seven, 8AM noon. That's not fair.
[0:07:20] Moni @monitalan: It's not my fault. You know?
[0:07:23] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: But... Yeah. No. I did not nuke the Discord. This is the same Discord, Monique. Just all got kicked out because of inactivity. The bot said...
[0:07:30] Moni @monitalan: Because we didn't do anything. Well... Yeah. Fair enough. I joined another community, and they're like, why did you join? You're never on the Discord. Oh my god. Yeah. You're right.
[0:07:41] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I have turned that off so nobody should be getting purged again.
[0:07:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why were we getting purged to begin with? I don't know. I'm just saying we're a growing budding community.
[0:07:48] Moni @monitalan: Because we're not active. How... What was the last time went to the
[0:07:53] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I was active in another Discord. I was hanging out with OpenSea, one the peep... One of the guys that runs the OpenSea.
[0:07:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Must be nice.
[0:08:00] Moni @monitalan: Isn't that how we realized that our Discord was not active?
[0:08:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Probably. MetaBeast, how was it? Doesn't that guy have some amazing tech that, like, let you build Discords? Isn't it cool?
[0:08:10] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I I haven't been in there. It was a diff... It was a different one. He's... He has one of the Chaz Goldbots... Builder bots.
[0:08:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I
[0:08:19] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: love that one. We were we were in there talking about it, what what we can do and what people are gonna gonna do. Yeah. It's it's think it's think, but it is doing something.
[0:08:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. That made a lot of sense to me. It's it's think, but it's doing something. I like that. At least we know it's doing something. Constituents. I'm just saying.
[0:08:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: So what... Do we bring it back up? Like, do we plug the bot back in? Like, how does this work?
[0:08:44] Moni @monitalan: Oh, that
[0:08:45] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: bot is annoying.
[0:08:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's The only person that knew how to do anything was the person that... I'm not trained for this. You know? I... I'm learning on the job here.
[0:08:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I didn't... But I wouldn't have had the power to do anything anyway.
[0:08:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: See? Look at that.
[0:08:59] Moni @monitalan: I'm I'm not sure what your...... Damn and
[0:09:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: get you pissed off.
[0:09:03] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. I'm not sure what your boss is doing, Dave, but it was trying to, like, mint some random collections of my wallet. So you might wanna check that out. Pugs on hood. I did not consent to this.
[0:09:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: The wallet that you gave the private key to that bot for? I got you.
[0:09:17] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. But why is it trying to mint a random collection that we didn't ask for?
[0:09:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Because we're trying to create sniper bots, man. And, you know, there's growing pains with sniper bots, but he didn't make anything. Don't
[0:09:28] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: worry. Also, what was Metabeast doing in the voice chat by himself for, like, three hours? I'm curious.
[0:09:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: You by yourself?
[0:09:34] Moni @monitalan: Metabeast? He was
[0:09:34] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: all by himself in the voice chat in ATC Discord.
[0:09:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Well, I hopped in there, and I was doing other stuff, and I just sat there.
[0:09:41] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Oh. Waiting waiting for someone to join unless they wanna
[0:09:44] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: popped in and said something. Yeah. I woulda heard him.
[0:09:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's so sad. Okay. Right. From now on, anybody that goes into the Discord, you could put the links in the group chats also on x. So don't don't don't feel... Don't be shy. Yeah. Yeah. Might have be... Don't be in there by yourself. Milo, what's up?
[0:10:02] Milo @0dteSPY: So so I have to rejoin the Discord?
[0:10:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, I apologize.
[0:10:07] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And be active and be active.
[0:10:09] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Listen. You don't. Mind you, you don't. You're in the rabbit hole.
[0:10:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's the
[0:10:12] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: only place you need to be.
[0:10:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's that too.
[0:10:14] Milo @0dteSPY: Do you know how many communities I'm in at this point? It's ridiculous. Like, listen. It's, like, twenty twenty one again. My entire my entire Discord is just full of random circles of stuff, and I don't even remember what it is. I don't know what's going on anymore. This is getting really bad.
[0:10:32] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. And then you have to, like, leave one to join another because you're already in a 100 server.
[0:10:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was just gonna say that, Monique. You've hit your 100 server limit, and I'm like, what am I gonna unfun? And it's like, look at the... All the list, and you're like, oh, just pick one. Like, I don't even know I don't even know these... The the... These people. Anyways, alright. Let's get to some stories maybe. You know?
[0:10:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. Alright. We we we can dive in. We can dive in. So the the one that kinda piqued my interest was the one, shout out to DocNooNoo for sharing this. I had no idea this was live. I went back and checked and saw that, there there was a partnership announced in March of earlier this year. So from March to now... I guess they were... They're working on some stuff on the back end, but it's beautiful to see things now live. Right? So this is the tokenized trading cards on OpenSea. They actually did have a partnership with Panini that was announced on both sides earlier this year. So OpenSea now offers a dedicated trading card marketplace where physical collectibles such as Pokemon, one piece, basketball, baseball, and more are tokenized and traded on chain via NFTs with each digital token backed by a real world card. So how does it work? Right? Obviously, we all we all know this. When you go into OpenSea, you're allowed to buy, sell, and trade graded physical trading cards as NFT. So that is the big difference from, the Panini blockchain and OpenSea. When you buy, NFT on Panini blockchain, you don't have the image whether it's graded or or not graded. Right? It is just the NFT. So I think what OpenSea is doing, it's letting us know that it's graded. Right? So in the collection world, when you have an, a card that is graded... We were talking about this a little bit yesterday. So, like, especially graded p s... PSA 10... PSA nine and PSA 10, it adds an incredible amount of value to the to the car. So I think this is a big, big move on OpenSea's end. Right? And what's very interesting with OpenSea is that we were talking about them many, many years ago that there were some adjustments that needed to be made for them, and I absolutely love the direction in which they're headed, the adjustment that they're... That they've made. Now with the n... With NFTs sort of back, I think this is a beautiful, beautiful move on their direction. Right? So tokenized... So you can have, the popular categories so far has been Pokemon being the number one, the most popular on open sea, followed by one piece and then the sports cards. What do you guys make of this?
[0:13:20] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, it's about time you all caught up. I mean, this this really isn't new. There's a company. I can't think of their name, unfortunately. But I have had a Pokemon card that I got from a a sale on OpenSea quite some time ago.
[0:13:38] Moni @monitalan: Courtyard.
[0:13:39] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Courtyard. Yes. Yes.
[0:13:40] Moni @monitalan: Thank you. Was gonna say the impact here, I think, is for Courtyard. I don't know. I mean, if you look at the amount of activity on OpenSea, like, the live transactions, the majority of them all day are Courtyard. And so I don't know how this impacts Courtyard.
[0:13:58] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: And here's here's the interesting part. You can choose to have... You can get the physical card if you want, but at least through Courtyard, that card sits in a vault by Brink's, if people are familiar with Brink's, until the... Such a time that you decide that you wish to Yeah. Have it sent to
[0:14:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: something cooler, MetaBeast? So I I, like, I was I was actually big on this way back in the day, and we had the Courtyard team, on a bunch a bunch of times. And right when they were getting started, and they were fighting a massively uphill battle. Right? Because card collectors, like, these guys are afraid... They're... These all... They're stuck in their ways. Right? But what's cool about that is everything you just said is 100% true is if you do reclaim it, right, you reclaim the card, meaning, like, you want physical delivery of that card, so they remove it from the Brink's vault, and they mail it to your house or they send it to you depending on, you know, how valuable the card is. They actually send some cards in the truck. If you decide that you want to then put that card back on chain, you then become the rightful owner as long as it stays on chain every single time it changes hands. So if I... If you, let's say, put that card back up on OpenSea and nobody claims it, but it changes hands to the tune of $2,000,000 over the next year, you are the one that collects the fees on those 2,000,000 because you were the one that actually... That put it on chain last. And I thought that was such a smart move. But then I said to myself, like, I don't really see many people claiming this. Like, why is nobody claiming this to do this? Especially on ones that are trading that much. And I guess maybe it's the consensus amongst the community where it's like, well, if everybody does this, then this stuff's never gonna trade and, you know, we're gonna... It kinda defeats the purpose. I don't know. Speculation, but I think Courtyard has had their finger on the pulse for a minute. And I think this is just gonna literally just skyrocket them because between them... What's the other one? Cards? Oh my god. What's the other one, guys, that I'm thinking about? The one that Anson's always shilling.
[0:16:08] Voice G: Easy up or no?
[0:16:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No.
[0:16:10] Moni @monitalan: No. I think cards. Is that something
[0:16:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: like that? Yeah. Yeah. This is a bit... This is a big thing now. Right? Like, you know, you you see we were talking... Think we were talking about it yesterday, right, where it's like CGC and Beckett. Now it's like, you had to wait a month or two to get cards graded for, like, $10.20 bucks. Now you gotta wait six months, and it costs you $60. So this is only get... This this this is gonna get louder and louder and louder, which is great for us. The tokenization meta continues. Keep rolling.
[0:16:35] Moni @monitalan: Is built on Polygon.
[0:16:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. It is, actually. Yes. It is.
[0:16:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think it also speaks to strengthen partnerships within businesses. Right? And I think that's also important because how OpenSea has been able to make such massive strides has been with multiple partnerships across the board. Right? So kudos to them.
[0:17:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Gotta catch them all.
[0:17:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So they... OpenC partnered with Courtyard and Padini from my understanding, from what I'm reading here. So courtyard.io and Padini blockchain.
[0:17:16] Moni @monitalan: Good for us. So it's super good for for Courtyard. I mean, the amount of volume they get is pretty
[0:17:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Interesting. So Courtyard focuses on ripped digital packs that reveal graded physical cards while Padini offers officially licensed sports entertainment cards with a bridge to Ethereum or OpenSea Trading. So the fact that OpenSea has been able to solidify partnership with both, I think it speaks volumes into, like, what OpenSea is trying to do. I think this is incredible for them. And I did... Dave, I did not know about the fee. So if I get a card... If I buy a card on OpenSea, a graded card, and I decide to have it shipped to me, I then reupload the card to OpenSea. Right? Minted re
[0:18:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. It's Courtyard, not through OpenSea. Right? This is via Courtyard. Yeah. So Courtyard is the one that actually puts it on chain for you. You know what I'm saying? Like, they handle all... Think of them as, like, the securitized. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're the they're the median that's like, look. We're gonna essentially say this asset. You know how we always just talk about, like, well, it's just a token on the chain. Like, who's to say there's anything in there or that it represents something? Like, this is what it means. Right? Like, they're saying we're taking... We are taking custody of this, and we're gonna put it on here, but you are going to get credit, and it's all gonna be visible on chain. So, yeah, Matt, everything you just laid out, that's exactly how it works. You can see money money. Maybe that Jaylen... What is it called?
[0:18:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Jaylen Brunson and and...
[0:18:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, accounting could be getting money.
[0:18:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. But also Pokemon. Right? We... We've got a few Pokemon graded cards that are worth something. So I'm curious if I were to upload it on Courtyard, how it... Why getting money off those fees?
[0:18:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go to the website? Yeah. You go to the website. They make it super simple. They're just like, hey. If you wanna upload it here, we can schedule it depending on the value of the card. I think for, like, $15 or more, they literally send a Brinkstruck to your house. Wow. If I remember, like, what he said directly. That may have changed now. I don't know. But... Yeah.
[0:19:14] Moni @monitalan: Not You should invite them again.
[0:19:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'll I'll definitely reach out to them for sure. That was actually one of the first Discords I was ever in.
[0:19:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that... That's actually awesome. I'll do I'll do some more research on this, and then I'll see if we can get
[0:19:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: 10%.
[0:19:30] Moni @monitalan: Uh-huh. Random
[0:19:33] Voice G: fact. Did you know that Pokemon is the most valuable IP, product or, I guess, you'd say brand?
[0:19:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, for sure.
[0:19:42] Voice G: I was a little surprised by that. I thought it would have been, like, Star Wars, something Nintendo, Disney. Nope. Actually, Pokemon tops them all.
[0:19:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: And and it's not even close, dude. It's not even close. Like, I know these ridiculous nerdy facts because I was part of the VeeVee community for a minute, but, yeah, man, it's not even close. It's not even close.
[0:20:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Good stuff, guys. Alright. So next story. This one we covered earlier today on Wolf Bitcoin. Right? This is the Ondo Finance and BlackRock. So Ondo Finance and BlackRock, they partner to bring portfolio strategies on chain. Ondo Finance has launched Ondo Intelligent Portfolios. The fur... The first time BlackRock design investment strategies are delivered as single transferable on chain tokens for eligible non US investors. So what the partnership is, Ondo Finance... Oh my goodness. So on... So the way it works is they have three tokenized investment portfolio. Right? And it's all built by BlackRock. Was it the BlackRock CEO that said... Was it, like, two years ago that he said everything is going to be tokenized? Yes. So he... Everything? So they're really putting their their money with the mouth, so to speak. Right?
[0:21:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Larry Fink has been outspoken on literally tokenizing every single... If it's not nailed down, he's like, tokenize it. Yeah. Obviously, like, they did this with Securitize. They're on a couple other chains. Wait. How much was the the total amount of the, that they were tokenizing with On top that they were putting on chain? Did it say?
[0:21:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: It didn't say a specific amount, but not sure if Taj knows because I know he covered it earlier on this organization space. So do you know what the total amount is?
[0:21:27] Voice G: No. I didn't I didn't see a total figure. They just said... Broke down what each of the three funds did. One of them was, like, someone who's looking basically, like, a little bit more safer than, like, the middle grade and then, like, the little bit more degen growth. Well, not degen, but, you know, someone who is more growth, speculative in nature. But, no. They didn't say the total amount. I think as the funds come in, it'll just adjust, dynamically, but I didn't see any figure that they started it off with.
[0:21:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Thank you, Todd. So I think this is all very interesting, and I I I think it really does solidify where we are in crypto. Right? The fact that we have BlackRock and a whole bunch of others that are that are ready, willing, and able to make these kinds of partnerships, I think it really does speak volumes in terms of, like, the crypto space. And the the trust... The continuous trust that... The continued maturity. Right? We're not there yet. I do think the space does have a lot more to go in order to, you know, continue to mature. But to me, this solidifies a good step in the right direction.
[0:22:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tell me how I just went to go get this, a sweater out of my drawer. I just came out of the shower, and the first shirt I see is a wolf fight. Oh. That is crazy work. Crazy. There you go.
[0:22:40] Moni @monitalan: This is crazy.
[0:22:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: So I did I did some more digging, and and there, and, Taj, you're absolutely right. There are three different strategies, three three tokens. Right? So the first one is Ondo high income. That one is designed for investors seeking steady income. The the ticker for that is b l k h I o n. The third one is Ondo diversified growth, ticker symbol b l k d I g o n. This one targets a balance between growth and stability. And the third one is ondo high growth. That... The ticker symbol is b l k g r w o n. This one is aimed at investors willing to take on more risk for potential... For higher potential returns. But, unfortunately, they're only eligible to non US investors.
[0:23:34] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I I don't know if you guys have talked about Ondo before or not. This this was, like, the second time I've heard of them. Remember we were talk... Kinda talking about reducing blockchains down to, like, a top 10 or something? Somebody actually mentioned that one would be in their top 10.
[0:23:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Because this meta is going crazy, dude. It's going crazy. You heard people yet... Because nobody wants to pay attention to a meta or to to... Like, what's happened... Like, what somebody's saying is gonna happen in two years from now. People are like, by the year 2029, you're gonna see RWAs at a trillion... People are
[0:24:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: like, what? What? Crypto is like, who care?
[0:24:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, what? Wait. Where... What meme coin we... What's the CA, bro? Like, that's what people were saying out here. So... But the institutional money is the institution. Was your bot. No. It wasn't my bot. He's just a little retarded.
[0:24:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: And Ando has been creeping up the chains. Right? Right now, it's ranked number 37 by market cap and 54 overall. And his... It has been steadily increasing. The current market cap is about 2,400,000,000 for Ando.
[0:24:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: And you know what
[0:24:41] Voice G: And they kind of have... I was just gonna say really, they they they kind of have, the space cornered because, pretty much in the tokenization, you have Securitizers, a publicly traded company, then you have Ondo. And pretty much everything is going through them too, and the vast majority of them is going through Ondo. And to be honest, even though I'm covering the space and always, looking at the stuff and and and pulling stats, I never really realized until probably about a month ago how much of a juggernaut Ondo is. So they definitely kinda flew under the... You know what? To be honest, like, when their CEO died, is that... That's when I really started to dig into them. And that's kinda crazy something like that had to happen, but I I I didn't realize how well connected and used they were in the tokenization deal.
[0:25:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: I totally forgot about that. The CEO died. That was so random. Right? He was young.
[0:25:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. That's right. Yeah.
[0:25:29] Voice G: Yeah. Crazy. If if it... I mean, like, honestly, it's like they flew under the radar until that, and I was looking into it, like, the... His origin story and everything. And the deeper I I read, and it was literally for him in that event, I just kept reading more and more and more. And then I started... Ended up on looking at the the market share for RWAs and all this stuff, and and Ondo was just at the top for everything. I was like, this this is actually crazy. And, you know, for the most part in the space, nobody really cares about them. On the TradFi side, like, everyone knows about them just as much as they know about security... Securitize. But on on our side, the crypto side, not as many people talk about it.
[0:26:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. You're absolutely right. I'm actually re digging up the story about the CEO when he passed away. So Nathan Allen... Allman. Sorry. Nathan Allman, the founder and CEO of Ondo Finance, died unexpectedly on May 25. So it was of this year. And the company... With company president Ian Debode immediately appointed as new CEO. Interesting. Very interesting.
[0:26:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's crazy.
[0:26:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exact... Can we can we talk about the credits thing for a minute and, like, that sale from... To Weitzman to the new rarity thing? Can y'all fill me in on what's going on? Anyone? So... Okay. Maybe I'll fill myself in. So from what I read, and you guys tell me if this is wrong, but OpenSea rarity, it ain't shit. I don't know what the deal is. People are obviously spending a ton of money. I'm not saying it's totally bogus, obviously, because there's some, I guess, validity to it because people aren't paying based off of that, but it's off the traits. But this guy released a new, I guess, rarity checker today or trait checker. And I'm just curious if, like, you guys have seen... Has that... Has the timeline been a buzz? Are people pissed off? Or do
[0:27:20] Moni @monitalan: people off air? Yeah.
[0:27:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: So I I saw what DocNooNoo posted about it in the chat, but I haven't had time to dig in. I know Landy said when he tried to click on it, he got a whole lot of, warning... Warnings about it. I haven't I haven't played around with it myself.
[0:27:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What did you say? Sorry. I was putting my my earbuds in. Did you say when Landy tried to click on it
[0:27:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: He received a whole bunch of warnings?
[0:27:40] Moni @monitalan: I didn't.
[0:27:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: For real?
[0:27:42] Moni @monitalan: Yeah.
[0:27:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like Why did he have to connect his app? Why did he have to connect to his wallet?
[0:27:45] Moni @monitalan: I don't think you do. I just...
[0:27:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Landy's out here clicking the wrong...
[0:27:50] Moni @monitalan: He's he's gonna Maybe he left up the wrong one. No. I tried it, and it was funny because it showed me that I have one that is rare or... I don't remember what it said. Two that are uncommon and one that's a common. That's pretty cool. I like the website.
[0:28:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: And it shows you, like, percentage too. It's like,
[0:28:10] Moni @monitalan: oh Yeah.
[0:28:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: This was the
[0:28:12] Moni @monitalan: And the top 4%, I think, was one of mine. Top 43%.
[0:28:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, they're they're other one. They're using this to... So that's how it works in the actual collection world, like sports and stuff like that. Mhmm. The rarer it is, the more the more expensive.
[0:28:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: But look at the timing now. This is what cracks me up is they tell you, alright. This is what's going on. Here's the rules. We'll give you the rest of the rules in eight days, and the speculation drives people crazy. But you gotta burn it all. And people are like, ah. I think you just drip things out. You know?
[0:28:44] Moni @monitalan: So, Dave, my big question is on the rarity. Right? If you're gonna burn them, does the the rarer ones you burn, the more rarer... No. Your your your thing will be? I don't understand. I'm so confused.
[0:28:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't I don't think so. Look. That's not how burning works. It's not like, wait a second. Before you send this to the burn wallet, let me check your traits. Nah. Like, he said 80. That's what
[0:29:07] Moni @monitalan: he said. It's 80. That's all he said. Yes.
[0:29:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's all that's all I heard. 80 is 80. No. It doesn't matter the rarity, the this. So it's interesting because maybe there will be, like, a combination of something that will... You know, maybe there are other traits that will play in. Yeah.
[0:29:23] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Because if not, it's like, then you shouldn't care about their art. Unless you're not trying to burn them because you won't... You think it'll be
[0:29:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, maybe they come into... This is this is it. Right? Maybe. What if? Who knows? Could be this. This is exactly what fuels it. But as an artist, I would think this is what you want people doing. Right? And, also, I... I'm just gonna give my experience. I have a very vivid imagination. I've... I did this all of 2021. I was like, guys, what if it was this? And you literally will fly off the hand. Our brains are so ridiculous that it's just like, wait. So it was just a colorful QR code that, like, you scanned it and they gave you, like, $5 off at, like, Trader Joe's? Like, that's it? I was like, what the fuck? Because we wanna think it's all these crazy, glorious, and amazing things. Most of the time, it just
[0:30:15] Moni @monitalan: And people are still like, he's get... You know, Elon's gonna do something. I'm like, Elon's not gonna
[0:30:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: do something. Yeah. He turns out that Elon Musk collab for sure.
[0:30:25] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Then you had the bunch of ones that spawned from that, but there was... There is one possibly interesting one. It was CreditPunks, and you could only meant however many credits you had. But I I started looking into it more, and I I I haven't verified it. But it seems that they have... They've they've taken eight OG NFT collections, knock amigos, pudgy penguins, and a few others. And they're doing something and putting them actually on blockchain because it's all about the IPFS and how... You know, if that shuts down, you don't... You also have it
[0:31:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: as a
[0:31:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: receipt. And the the person who's behind it is getting ready to do another round, but he... I guess he funded the whole... Those... He fund... He funded it all himself for the first round, so he's looking for donations, which might have been part of the reason behind this. But it's... It seemed like they were... The the credit punks are actually related to the original OG punks too.
[0:31:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: My god. You know how much drama there was over this shit? V one punk. Go. Blah blah. V one punks over this punk and that and that punk. I don't know, man. All I know is, like, shout out to the dude who put a $8 bid in... An $8 bid in and got himself freaking $30.
[0:32:04] Moni @monitalan: No kidding. I'm like, I need that luck. I need that type
[0:32:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: of tie. Saying. Yeah. I know. Right? Mhmm. But you always think it could be you. Right? Like, that's what makes this... Like, you're like, what if it's me? It's like, are you gonna sell? I'm not gonna sell before the reveal. What if... I don't know. What are you gonna do? And it's just like, what if it is me? And then, of course, you torture yourself and you go back after you did sell it, and then you're like, oh my god. It could've been mine. That's why Milo's joining communities left and right. You know? Maybe. Just maybe, Milo.
[0:32:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm still holding on to
[0:32:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: mine. Uh-huh.
[0:32:34] Moni @monitalan: I am too because I think everybody's speculating. You know? I'll look back a few hours before the eighth day thing and to see what the floor is at.
[0:32:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, at least you have someone with a track record now. Right? Like, the majority of artists would probably not do shit. They release it. I can see you later. But you... Like, Jack, like, when you look at what Chex did, right, like, that was cool. That's still going. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's really, really cool. So you at least know that there's a track record there, which I think gives the market maybe a little bit more confidence to be like, alright. I'll hold this stuff. But I did not think that it was gonna be any
[0:33:11] Moni @monitalan: We know you
[0:33:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: this was straight. I I literally... I was like, this is going to 10 to $15. I don't know. What are you talking about? This is insane. 120,000. But, you know, you you just gotta know how to whisper to these markets and get these degens all riled up. And look. What is it? 4 or $5,000,000 of volume in two days already? It's insane.
[0:33:31] Moni @monitalan: I have a question. Do you guys know... So I looked... Because I was trying to see what commission he gets. OpenSea doesn't show any commission. Am I looking at it wrong? Like, what is he getting?
[0:33:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I don't know. Remember there was this whole brouhaha back in the day where it was like creator fees and ta ta ta.
[0:33:52] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. But I don't see anything here. Because usually, it tells you. Right? So let me...
[0:33:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sure they get secondary... A percentage of secondary market volume for sure. Bubba, out of there.
[0:34:03] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Like like QuadCharms has a 5% creator fee. I don't know how you can tell what the secondary... Anyway, I was just curious if anybody knew why it doesn't show one. It doesn't show anything on OpenSea.
[0:34:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. So quote trans 5%, meaning every time an NFT changes hands, 5% of that transaction goes back to Quotron's Correct. Or the creator? Yep. Interesting. Very interesting.
[0:34:31] Moni @monitalan: A lot of the tenants have been doing 10%. I lot... I know a lot of people won't do the 10. Like, I know big big names that say I won't win something that has 10% unless there's something special about the collection.
[0:34:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I don't know. I mean, look. Maybe he looked at it. Maybe Jack looked at it. It was like, listen. I'm making a million dollars. You know? Quick. Quick. I I haven't made a million dollars in twenty four hours ever in my life. So... Alright. Maybe no creative... Alright. Maybe maybe we do something a little different. But I I can't I can't see that. He's not getting he's not getting money out of there.
[0:35:05] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's interesting looking at some of the activity on there too. You see the same person has minted a whole bunch. I'm guessing they're trying
[0:35:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: to
[0:35:15] Moni @monitalan: get They're trying to to the 80. Yeah.
[0:35:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I wonder how much those are gonna go for then.
[0:35:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I started following all those people. Everybody I saw
[0:35:23] Moni @monitalan: out there, I'm like, hey.
[0:35:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Follow. Follow. Follow. Like, I need to know. I'm wildly watching these MFers for
[0:35:29] Moni @monitalan: the floor? The floor is 0.0325 again.
[0:35:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Not... That's crazy. That is crazy. Man, god bless.
[0:35:39] Moni @monitalan: Your... Did you get any of the the rare ones with your bot, or you stopped experimenting?
[0:35:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I only did it for
[0:35:51] Moni @monitalan: the mint. I didn't keep
[0:35:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: it going. But we missed two of them. Like, ugh, god. It was such a... It was so gut wrenching because it's like, you think you're like, oh my god. I just saw one hit the floor. Tell me we got it. Tell me we got it. And it's like, nope. $78 to, like, $700, like, quick.
[0:36:07] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I have I have one eight.
[0:36:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's good. Bye bye. I have
[0:36:13] Moni @monitalan: one eight too.
[0:36:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice.
[0:36:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: I have no That's great. I think it's regular.
[0:36:19] Moni @monitalan: But I have... Do you know that my most rare one doesn't have an eight? But I think it's because I was so early. Remember I told you one of the rare rare rare traits is how early you bought in? And so I think that's why. Because my most rare actually doesn't have any eights.
[0:36:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Interesting. Interesting. I'll have to go back and check. But you know what? Now I'm kicking myself. I feel like we should have gotten more.
[0:36:48] Moni @monitalan: No kidding. I am too. I'm like... But hey, DocNooNoo. You had a good one today with FOMO. That's doing well. Is she offstage? Did she just come off to the house stage?
[0:36:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: She bougie. Look at that. Like, she bougie. It's crazy. Unbelievable. What was the... Wait. What was the FOMO one?
[0:37:05] Moni @monitalan: So you would do an an interact... You have to do something on FOMO, and you would get an NFT. And I think they're selling, like, for a 100 plus. Right? No. No. No. I'm saying it wrong. Well, you're laughing, so you're just You're delayed. But...
[0:37:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You know what I'm I'm realizing?
[0:37:21] Moni @monitalan: She put it in the chat. She put it
[0:37:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: in the chat.
[0:37:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what I'm realizing now is all of these nonsense ploys or or posts of, like, go do this on ponds. We're gonna get this, and we're gonna get that. This... Like, to me, that's that's the... All all staged. Come launch a token here. Come launch a token there. Come launch... Like, launch. Launch. Launch. All they wanna do is pump these numbers at the end of the day because... Look. I... Like, the amount of money that they probably see, if they pay a creator or whoever, like, a thousand bucks or whatever, a couple thousand dollars for a couple of posts that will drive, like, 2 thou... 3,000 token launches, like, they're making so much more money than, like, they could even imagine. So to me, you know how, like, you hear people say, oh, it worked for me, but it didn't work for Metabase. Know how you're like, it doesn't work for me.
[0:38:12] Moni @monitalan: Because it's in The US. If you're in The US, it doesn't work anymore. No, Monet. It is. Unless, well, you have VPN.
[0:38:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why has it worked for me sometimes? Did I the ponds one.
[0:38:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did it.
[0:38:21] Moni @monitalan: Because at first, it was fine, but I think they got in trouble because of US laws, and they changed that they
[0:38:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, they let you go through the whole process.
[0:38:29] Moni @monitalan: Go, but you don't... You can't earn any money. You can go through the whole process, but you can't make any money.
[0:38:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. So even better. So even... It's
[0:38:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: even robbery.
[0:38:38] Moni @monitalan: But you know what? I have
[0:38:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: to tell you that I
[0:38:40] Moni @monitalan: did it with... Without realizing that I used my Doxxed wallet because I didn't realize it was Doxx. I did one of those pawns ones, and somebody sent me a note saying, what's your plan with your token? I'm like, what token? I was like, the next day. I'm like, what token? And they're like, you launched the token yesterday. I'm like, oh my god. Don't buy it. Yeah.
[0:39:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. But, like, you're supposed to do it, like, they say with, like, a wallet that's got actual activity in it. You know? Our our our
[0:39:08] Moni @monitalan: I know. But I didn't know it was doxed. I didn't even... I'm like, don't... By the way, I'm a horrible trader. Please don't do anything I do trading because you're gonna go broke.
[0:39:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Just listen to Nat. Alright? That's it. So you gotta do just listen to Nat. Wait. Can we talk about this other one? Go figure. I'm out of the NFT game, and now we're talking about NFTs. This this other new one where it's like, $8 x money, send on ETH, send on Soul, send on this, this guy Edgar or whatever. I don't know what this plan is, but that's got some traction too. This guy's got 10,000 people already that sent him $8 over over x money. Now what are we doing? ATC I'm not doing that. X money?
[0:39:50] Moni @monitalan: What? I'll do that. What do mean? What do mean? No. No. No. Not the ATC one. I'm not doing that guy, Jack. I don't... By the way, he, number one, made it super complicated. And two, you have to connect your wallets. I'm like, I'm not connecting my wallets. I'm so sorry.
[0:40:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: If I have to do more than three steps, you lost me.
[0:40:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. When you send the money and then what? You have to connect your wallet after that?
[0:40:12] Moni @monitalan: No. You can... I don't know how it... I... Anyway, it just said I had to... You connect to ads and then you connect your wallets and and the wallet, you have to have the money to do it. Right? Or something like that. I don't know. It's just that...
[0:40:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I didn't do it yet.
[0:40:26] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Don't do it. You have to... And then... And it asks you for both your... No no no no. She's she's on. She can give us a...
[0:40:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, look. She came out. That's okay.
[0:40:38] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. I wouldn't touch it. There's loads of screenshots going on in the backrooms about how he's done this before. And he's robbed people and just, like, deactivated his account, and now he's back and doing it again. I don't know. Haven't looked into it myself, but I've seen screenshots going around saying avoid at all costs. If it's free, great. But if he, like, says that he's charging something, then leave it. And now he said he's charging $8. Everyone's like, yeah. Fuck that. Sorry.
[0:41:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And what they mean is like, not that he didn't do that. No. No. He was like, I'll take it on x money. Here's my Easter dress. Here's my soul address. Here's my dessert. He he, like, laid out. Hey, Lisa. I'm gonna be accessible out here. You know?
[0:41:17] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. I commented saying, oh, The UK has been excluded again, and he just replied to me saying, you'll figure it out.
[0:41:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, but you yelled at me. I was like, I gotta put my wallet. You're like, just do it. And I'm like, what? Am I doing it? No? That
[0:41:31] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: was... No. That was before. Yeah. So he's like master engagement farmer because that was before he even announced those payment. He was like, drop your wallets. So everyone thought they were getting an airdrop. And then it was like, go to this link and register. So then everyone's like, oh, we're getting something. And then it was like, okay. Send money here. That was, like, the last step.
[0:41:49] Moni @monitalan: Plus, it was
[0:41:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Send money now.
[0:41:51] Moni @monitalan: Share your wallet if you've been active since 2022. Right? So... And the reason I didn't share mine is because mine... Like, I... You know, I was hacked in one of the stupid things I did. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm not gonna share it because... Anyway, my my hacks are my... I guess, in this case, was my blessing because I didn't I didn't do anything.
[0:42:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Wait. What was the... Oh my god. There was something else I want... I saw on the timeline randomly. If you're kidding me, I'm gonna kill her. She drops back now? I guess no more NFC questions. We can move on. Sorry.
[0:42:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: She probably needs to reconnect.
[0:42:34] Moni @monitalan: It's okay, DocNooNoo. It's okay. It's --. No problem.
[0:42:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, there she is.
[0:42:40] Moni @monitalan: Wait. There's another little drama happening here in... I have to look for it. But then if he's... I guess it's an NFT collection. I think whatever man is a part of the project. And one of the
[0:42:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what was gonna ask you. Standard Reserve, is that the one that rugged? That that one that was so hyped up?
[0:43:02] Moni @monitalan: What... Did it rug?
[0:43:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think so. I saw Otto, who's one of the big fucking Qualcomm whales. Got, like, a 100 of them, and he was just like, fuck you guys. I was like, goddamn. Oh, wow. I think they just up and up and packed it up or something like that.
[0:43:18] Moni @monitalan: Well, the one that that I know also that Cyr was very involved with was the hyper terminal, and that one wrong. Like, the x... He he said he went to claim his site for liquid, and the website's gone, and the x is gone. And he's like, oh, damn it. They hacked. So I think that was another rug. But, no, it's another... It's the... The mutual fund or fund. The mutual fund, whatever man is part of it. A lot of people are involved. But I guess one of the communities wanted to be a part of it, and they're like, oh, no. You guys are just here to kinda farm and... There's a lot of drama. I'm looking for the post. I'll share it. But... Yeah. I don't know that that part. It seems very complicated.
[0:44:05] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: It... It's funny how founders just, like, forget where they came from, and suddenly they're better than everyone else and... Despite the hands that fed them all these years. So, like, he's pissing off, like... I I guess the main people who have kept the NFT space moving. Like, he's blocked... It's Ali from into DAO. He's blocked Sass, which is the founder of Alpha Gems, he's now unblocked him.
[0:44:28] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Then......
[0:44:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Even said
[0:44:29] Moni @monitalan: that DM chat.
[0:44:31] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. Yeah. That's... I actually replied to that. Yeah. I actually replied to that because I think that's disgusting behavior. Like, obviously, web three is the wild west. Anyone can come out here do whatever they want, and that kind of gap between the title and the actual, like, credentials and suitability to be a founder or be ahead of a, you know, whatever operations. It just becomes, like, painfully obvious when people just get, like, a power complex and start doing stupid shit and destroy their project. Because, like, I was I was actually, like, bullish on mutual fund, and then I just saw how the founder was moving, and then I found out who their head of operations was. And I was like, okay. This is bullshit. I'm out. So... Yeah.
[0:45:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, this is one of those... Didn't name you or the project.
[0:45:18] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I'll just name you Tom. And
[0:45:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: I had no plan to share our DM. That was on purpose to respect your privacy. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy.
[0:45:27] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Red. That's... Like, there's there's so many projects where, like, founder can single handedly make or break a project. And the way that he's acting, whatever he's built is irrelevant because, like, no one's gonna support that shit when you're acting like that.
[0:45:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, the founder can... I mean, I think there's about a 100% chance of somebody potentially... Of the founder rugging you. The question is, how greedy are they? And how greedy... Like, do you know these people? I don't know, man. That's why it always boggles my mind, like, when people invest such heavy, heavy, heavy dollars. It's like, if you can't afford to take these l's, like, I don't know, man.
[0:46:04] Moni @monitalan: And that's why all Plus, also, I was just gonna say, like, from all the communities, I think one of the best communities out there when it comes to this is Alpha Gems. I'm like, you're really picking up five little Alpha Gems? That makes no sense to me.
[0:46:18] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. I I totally agree. Like, Saas is one of the... I I guess, me, he's somebody who's consistently shown integrity as, like, a founder of an alpha group. He's a really good guy. So I like him. I don't like alpha groups, generally. But... Yeah.
[0:46:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Was this the botting story also, or is that something else?
[0:46:37] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. Yeah. He basically blocked people and just said, I don't like botters, and that's why he blocked them all. So
[0:46:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: how many people did he block? Like, 5,000? Because I know a lot of people. Who...
[0:46:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, what what Everman did? Is that what you're saying? Whatever man was on that block, people? Or...
[0:46:54] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: No. No. Him... Whatever man's on the team. He's the head of operations.
[0:46:58] Moni @monitalan: No. The the other guy, the founder is the guy. The one... King King Pickle. King Pickle. Yeah. Pick... Yeah.
[0:47:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: King Pickle. This is... I love it when people are gonna come and cry, they're just like, this founder was not nice. Like, who was he? His name was King Pickle. Oh oh, got it. Got it.
[0:47:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: But you know what I think was very interesting, and I and I like that DocNooNoo brought it up sometimes with these founders. And you see that not only in in in the crypto world, but also in real life. Sometimes they can't just get... It's hard to get out of their own way, and I feel like that's where a lot of people fall short.
[0:47:33] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: We we saw in that. We saw it with with on chain hoodies. Like, that founder single handedly destroyed the floor and the community because his ego got too big for his own boots. Like, imagine Dave hosting a space for on chain hoodie community and the founder DM ing you saying, yo. Don't do spaces. What... For us? And, like, wasn't even on the team, and he DM ed me asking me to delete a tweet and that I should show more support to on chain hoodies even though I was just, like, a volunteer helping in their Discord and built their Discord for them and shit. And I was like, fuck this. I'm out of here. Like, who who do you think you are?
[0:48:08] Moni @monitalan: And He told me they kicked Dave off. Right? They kicked you out of the chat.
[0:48:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was like, I can't sell my NFT. And they were like, we banned cells from the bots. And it's just like, bitches, what? Now you did this? They were like, we saw it's your last one. Deuces. Like, this is the this is the courtesy I get. You pieces of shit.
[0:48:28] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Wait. They banned you from selling your NFT?
[0:48:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. Oh, I didn't tell you. You don't you don't remember this? I was going crazy.
[0:48:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's I had an
[0:48:34] Moni @monitalan: offer up.
[0:48:35] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Like, what happened to decentralized?
[0:48:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo. No way. Yeah. So forget the f that's out the window. I don't wanna sound like a crazy person. You know I mean? I'm not gonna sit here being like, what happened? But I tried to sell my my OCH, and I accept the offer, and they said, no. We disabled that from the smart contract level because we know that they're bots.
[0:48:55] Moni @monitalan: So now Let me see.
[0:48:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: They can pick and choose who they want
[0:48:59] Moni @monitalan: to
[0:48:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: buy and sell. And I'm like, this is crazy.
[0:49:01] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. That's crazy.
[0:49:02] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: That actually happened. So I'm sorry. I know president Avi are down there with their UQPFPs, but, like, Naim was trying to send his UQ someone, and he just cannot. So he has a feeling
[0:49:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: about that. Crazy.
[0:49:13] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. That's
[0:49:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: crazy. I tried to... Actually, I tried to do the same thing. I tried to... I I thought it was me. I'm like, maybe I'm just stupid. I was like, what am I am I in the rough? Because you know how I mix up, like, OpenSea wallets, and I'm like, oh, maybe I need to switch connect. I don't know what I'm doing. Mobile, this, that. Bro, that is crazy. I don't care. You, Key, OCH. If you are in this space and you are trying... If you're doing that as a founder, I'm sorry. You're fucked. You're whole shitty... You're wasting your time. And and, honestly, this riles me up because, like, you're a piece of shit. That should be like... Who... Like, the people that are out here supporting you, I don't give a shit if you're in the money, out of the money. Like, I minted your shit for higher than this was, and it's just like, are you kidding me? Now you're gonna tell me I can't sell it? Get out of here, man. That's Yeah.
[0:49:58] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: I don't I don't know what's going on with Naeem's one. Like, I I I have no idea. So that was just assumed.
[0:50:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. We should talk. Oh, we gotta talk then because... Yeah. Yeah. Avi, go ahead.
[0:50:08] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: Yeah. I remember that when they came up in the in the x chat is is interesting over here, but it's... I just wanna say that it... It's not that you were banned from trading. It was the offers from, you know, Formain and, sport eight eight eight, whatever. Like, those those bots that always ruin floors and stuff, people were frustrated at them. So they try to find solutions to how to make sure......
[0:50:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: That... I'm sorry, bro. There is no solution there. I understand. So, you know, it wasn't... I I guess I was banned from trading. That would've been crazy. But I think I'm kick off OpenSea? No. They kicked me out of the out of the group chat. They kicked me from the group chat.
[0:50:47] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: No. I'm saying I'm saying about that you couldn't you couldn't sell it. It was is because it was probably to, like, four main or something and
[0:50:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:50:54] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: You had to go to a lower offer. Yeah.
[0:50:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe that's
[0:50:57] Moni @monitalan: it. Like, know... But... Yeah. They shouldn't look at that. I mean, I get mad because it impacts the floor price. Many of my projects, but it is the game.
[0:51:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's it. What do you mean? Like, you over here talking about you're an artist. You're an artist. You make art. You do this. You do that. Alright. Cool. Go make some fucking art. Don't worry about the floor price. Let the market do what it's gonna do. Wait. I thought trying to control.
[0:51:18] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Are we talking about... So was it banned from and or from the project?
[0:51:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: The It was they essentially... There were certain wallets that you weren't allowed to trade with. The ones that were putting up these super high... Like, much higher offers so that it would have been literally better for me. I had to sell at the floor, like, $20 or $30 low, whatever it was. Right? Because I I... Literally, they were banning me or preventing me from interacting and accepting that offer, which is kinda wild because it's on OpenSea, and I'm I'm surprised that Seaport or any of them, like, allow this stuff. Like, how could you do it? Maybe they're already on. I don't know how that works. Maybe that's a question that we should ask the OpenSea team, but I thought that was crazy. It was nuts.
[0:52:01] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: It's it's something that AloDev, he he helped build us something to help ban all these bots. I... I'm not sure the details about it, but I know that he helped us.
[0:52:12] Moni @monitalan: So, Avi, it's your fault. I'm just kidding.
[0:52:17] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: Wait. What?
[0:52:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. I'll say this. I'll say this. Right? I understand the frustration because it's like like NFT... Like, when an NFT gets a little momentum and you wanna see that floor price keep moving up, up, up, and then it's like people that are flipping for $10 and $5.40, and you're just like, what the hell? Like, it kill... It... You... Like, you're dead. You're dead on arrival. But that's not the name of this game. That's not crypto. That... Those are NFTs. Okay? That's not what this is. You wanna buy and hold and find yourself enough buyers, lower your freaking supply from 9,999 to maybe, like, a more realistic number or 80 or 90. And we don't get into this nonsense. Okay? Be realistic, but people are greedy out here, kumbubs. They're greedy as hell. And to me, if you're gonna be greedy and launch a six six six six collection, cool. Right? You better have the community or have the tech or have something to be able to back that up because if you don't, I have zero I have zero sympathy for you. None. And especially when you then try and lock me out and lock community members out from selling the very thing that we bought to support you? Man, miss me with all that, bro. F the o c h community. Like, they can kiss my ass.
[0:53:34] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: By the way, I I don't mind these bots because they... They're, like, always there buying the floor... Buying people that we've, And then they don't they don't... They only... They don't mind listing it for, like, 10¢ more than that weave offer. So sometimes I play around, and I I, like, list stuff. So it thinks, like, I'm a competition, and then it lowers its price, and I play to the lowest it could go. And then I I buy it like that.
[0:53:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: We used to do that on Wall Street all the time, bro. All the time. There were people that used to essentially have... Because you can hide, like, your real... Like, on on OTC markets, like pink sheets and stuff. Dude, like, we wanna keep spreads as wide as possible. Right? So it's just like, look. I'm not gonna crowd it here. I'm not gonna go... It's not required of me to represent this, you know, $20 order. So let me just put it at $25. But then all of a sudden, you go down to another person with 24. It's like, oh, I immediately got followed to 24. How far can I get that? So if you're a buyer, bro, people do this all the time. This is the name of this game out here. But it just... Cracks me up because people are still trying to shove NFTs, this square peg, into the round freaking crypto hole. Pause. But you get what I'm saying. It's stop doing it, people. Stop. Stop. Because you're always gonna be complaining about floor price and crying and all of these things. They're nonfungible tokens by definition. It is not the same as crypto. Stop trying to create markets to fucking make them fit into this thing because it's just gonna... It's it's insane. It's insane. Alright. Rant over. My bad. Thank you for coming to
[0:55:12] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: my team.
[0:55:12] Moni @monitalan: But before before we lose... No. No. No. No. Tell us about that... The FOMO one because you're... It's doing well. Right? Probably.
[0:55:19] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. So, I mean, I got wind of it pretty late, and I didn't bother. I just don't bother with these things. I don't know why. But, yeah, we've got news that all you had to do is go on FOMO and buy, like, $10, I think, of their token, and then you get an NFT. And that NFT is now trading for a $140, but I think it's a thousand supply. It did dip to, like, I don't know, $30 or something, and then it went back up. They're called Fooms, I believe, f o o m. That's all I know about it.
[0:55:51] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was too late too. I also... I don't do FOMOs. I was like, I'm gonna have to transfer money.
[0:56:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what? I'm I'm just... I was thinking about this whole ponds thing that we're talking about before. No. Go to Pons and do this and do this. I think Pons is running out of gas. Have you... By the way, have you used the Pons mobile site? I used it this morning. What a piece of shit? 7... You have a $700,000,000 token, and, like, you have literally, like, pieces on your website that are overlapping others on your... And to the point where I can't even see what the, like, the menu bar says. I'm like, am I in the... I'm like, no. Come on. I'm not in the wrong page. There's no way.
[0:56:32] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: You should offer them your services, Dave.
[0:56:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, forget that. What services? Oh, services. Well, I I will literally put freaking Casey on there and just be like, this website sucks. It's terrible. It is absolutely awful. I couldn't believe it. At least before we had... You know, Uniswap didn't have... Oh my god. This is gonna be the rant. Uniswap didn't have limit orders until, like, two years ago. And you're like, what is happening right now? How is this a thing? But at least you had, like, nice UI. These... Nowadays, like, whatever. These degenerates don't give a shit. Who cares? Let's figure and make something.
[0:57:10] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: Also, they're buying their own token with the fees. That's why it ran up. It's... They buy and burn it like a pump does, so it's not really necessarily people buying it.
[0:57:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know how much volume pumps has done so far since inception? $15,500,000,000 with a b. Billion. That's crazy. That's crazy. My goodness. Where's the next one?
[0:57:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Great conversation, guys. Alright. So the Bitget hack. Bitget suspected of hack after 180,000,000 was moved, raising security concerns. This actually happened earlier today. Bitget is under scrutiny following suspicion of a potential hack involving the movement of a $140,180,000,000 across various blockchain platforms. The activity reportedly included the purchase of 7,111 ETH using funds from a hot wallet raising concerns about unauthorized access. This development has prompted market participants to reassess security risk associated with centralized exchanges, particularly given Big Cat's history of security advisories regarding hot wallet vulnerabilities. So this is not the first time something like this has happened to Bitget. And I know we've had this conversation before with what is happening, why with all of the advancement in the... In technology with AI, why isn't there a way to prohibit this from happening?
[0:58:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: You think anybody's gonna come to Gracie's Gracie's rescue now? Remember how she was like, we all have to stick together. We love this space. This is amazing. Well, I know what happened to Big Ed. I have no idea. They're like, we're sending 20,000 Eth over to... Oh my god. Remember Ben when... What's it called,? Oh my god. Was it by me?
[0:59:08] Moni @monitalan: The other thing. Right? It was No.
[0:59:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. This is oh my god. What's the other exchange? Monster exchange.
[0:59:16] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: My head's
[0:59:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: in... I don't know where my head's at. But the one that there was the billion dollar... It was almost a billion... Or $3,000,000,000 hack.
[0:59:22] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[0:59:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Benz out. Anyways, everyone everyone came to the rescue. Like, we're gonna help plug this hole. Who's sending 20,000 ETH? Who's sending 30,000 ETH? And Gracie was right there. Right? Like, she was like, we need to stick together with this and pick it. But now people are suspect, like, you you... Essentially, like, they're saying no withdrawals. Right? I think is is from what I saw in the timeline. Yeah. Which is... There is no worse feeling than you, like, you go to withdraw your money, and they're like, nah. Nah. There's nothing... There's nothing more jarring than that. And it's in those moments that you're just like, I can't believe this. I can't I can't believe this just happened to me. But... Yeah.
[1:00:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: But you know what? Something similar has been happening with Maxi. Right? I don't know if you guys have been reading the timeline. I... It's not as common now, but a few months ago, it was all over the timeline how Maxi was freezing individual's funds, and it was very difficult for some of them to withdraw. And we're talking about big, big amounts of money.
[1:00:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: They've been doing this, though. Maxi's been... They've been... They started this shit. They were the OGs in this stuff. Are you kidding me? You know how many times I would get a notice from Mexi being like, you're out of our jurisdiction. We're gonna shut down your accounts. Like, what? What do you mean? What jurisdiction? I was like, I'm in California. Like, there's no... Like, there was no regulation here. That's just New York. They're like, oh, you're out of it. You have to call customer service. This coincidentally happened because, like, I actually made... The one time I actually made, like, 6 or $7 off of, like, an overnight Bitcoin short, and they were just like, nope. Sorry. I mean, I think now also people are getting very scared. You're gonna see a lot of running and hiding. This Kalshi story and painting the tape, this has been a thing in crypto for a long time. Exchanges, their volume's not on tape. Do you guys know... We're not gonna mention his name, but there is an exchange by the three letter acronym of HTX. I don't know who runs that exchange, but that, like, that exchange is... Dude, they list tokens that are IOUs. I saw it, and I'm just like, this is a little bit nuts. If you don't think that there is an insane amount of just not even wash trading, it's just fake prints because they have to answer to no one. No one. They can tell you it's this, and you look at it. You're like, oh, cool. I can go spin up an exchange right now, literally carbon copy of one of these other ones and bought my entire Twitter account next thing you know, and show you that I'm doing 2,000,000,000 a day, 3,000,000,000 a day, and crazy growth. You know why? Who's gonna say what to me? I don't care. Nobody's gonna represent this. Nobody. So, yeah, this is the reckoning, I think, for crypto, and it's been coming for a long time. I think people... Yeah.
[1:02:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: So do you see some some kind of guardrails being in place at some point in order to prevent this from, like, falling off the cliff, or is it too late?
[1:02:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: How do you prevent it?
[1:02:16] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Good question. I don't know.
[1:02:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Maybe it'll be to stop it... To to put a pause on it. Right? How do you how do you how do you prevent it from... How do you stop, how do you stop a moving train? You know what I mean? Because the train is moving.
[1:02:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know. I really don't know, but the... You... We hated Gensler, right, because he wanted to milk this industry and just saw dollar signs on us. But at the end of the day, you kinda do need some guardrails. Right? Like, if Coinbase was allowed to run amok, it wouldn't be Coinbase. You know what I mean? It just wouldn't. But... Yeah. I don't know where this... Where all this ends up, ladies and gents. I have no idea.
[1:02:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: I... They can't... They they... I don't see... I mean, I am a little concerned on how are they going to put a pause on this or add some guardrails without stopping the whole thing. I don't know. I think it's gonna be very interesting to see to see how how this all plays out. Because what do you do? Do you hand out cease and desist to all of these platforms? Do you do, like, a do you do, like, a MICA or MICA, but only for, like, the The US?
[1:03:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you Where are they based on that? Right? Like, the majority of these... You... Do you think these these are in, like, massive jurisdictions? No. They go place themselves in Malta, right, or in Saint Vincent or in The Grenadines. Right? That's where they go. They do that for a very specific reason. So when this kind of shit happens, who are you gonna go run to? The authorities in in their, you know, in their Tommy Bahama shirts and flip flops? What are they gonna do for you? What are they gonna do?
[1:03:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Interesting times. Very, very interesting times. And and we had a conversation similar to this on a tokenized space. Right? But it was more in in line of knowing which... When it comes to these platforms, right, tokenized assets, what's tokenized access, x stocks, and RWAs, like, there's a big difference between all of them. And right now, everyone seems to be confusing the two... Confusing all of the three, and I think that that's also what's adding to the danger. Right? Which one is the actual stock that's... Which one is the tokenized stock that's actually backed by the underlying. Right? And which one is just Fugazi, Fugazi? I think that portion as well has to be cleared up.
[1:04:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Very dusty. Brandon, I don't know why you requested, bro. I don't... Zero followers, bro. Come on. Get out of here.
[1:04:45] Moni @monitalan: Sit down
[1:04:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: in the audience. Enjoy the show. What else?
[1:04:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. New York sues Polymarket two months after filing lawsuit against Calshay.
[1:04:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: What? No.
[1:05:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. You're telling me gambling is illegal. This
[1:05:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: comment. Never. I would have never seen this comment. That is crazy.
[1:05:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: The law also claims Polymarket operates an illegal gambling platform and is violating state gambling laws and not licensed by the New York State Gaming Commission. By skirting New York laws, Polymarket is targeting the most vulnerable and depriving New York families of critical services and support. That was beautifully written.
[1:05:33] Moni @monitalan: That touched my heart. But No.
[1:05:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: How much how much did they sue them for? Did they say? Was it more than 34,000,000,000 that they sued for coffee?
[1:05:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. That article does not say, but I can... While while we go back and forth on it, I can see if I could come up with a number.
[1:05:50] Voice G: Guess this is, like groceries. Couldn't buy them some time. But the the crazy the crazy thing, though, with with that whole thing, right, it it always gets me when they write that up, and I love how you wrote that... Read that, and you're like, yeah. That's so beautifully written. It touches my heart. Mind you, this is the same gaming commission that allows, like, the lottery, which is, like, definitely taking advantage of poor people and people at the most... The, you know, the media of the the spectrum that are just looking for a dream. So that's absolutely hilarious. But it's funny though because remember when the CFTC basically was like, hey. We're trying to get everything one national standard. So whatever these states come after you guys with, like, pretty much ignore it. Like, I think that's gonna pop up again. I'm pretty sure they're gonna make some sort of a statement that kinda says, continue as usual. We're trying to get this as one standard thing. We don't want this to be state by state, so we shall see.
[1:06:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Great point. Also, I I found the number. It is 4,600,000,000. How much did they sue Kalshi for?
[1:06:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: 34,000,000,000.
[1:06:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Interesting.
[1:06:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're like they're like two guys that were, like, fighting in the middle of the street. Now they're sitting in the police station, and they're looking at each other. It's just like, we got cops come out, and they're like, hey, man. How how... 4,000,000,000? Alright. Here you go. Yeah, man. Alright. You're free to go. And then, like, just sitting there being like, what? Why me? Yo. New York is the... New York is the worst, bro. It is... This city is terrible.
[1:07:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do we... The way... What it looks like, though, do we think they're favoring one versus the other? Because the fact that they only sue Polymarket for 4,600,000,000, and Polymarket can easily, like, just write a check or supposedly continue to pay that pay that off and continue going about its way versus Kalshi. That's a bigger number.
[1:07:32] Voice G: My theory is that because Polymarket US is a much smaller company than the rest of the Polymarket. So, yeah, like, Polymarket is bigger in the space globally. But I think when you look at this probable number that majority of U... Not US. New York residents are probably using Calhoun. So maybe that's the argument that they're using.
[1:07:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Percent, bro. CFTC regulated. They see Trump. They see federal. They're like, that's a that's a
[1:07:59] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: pay Yep.
[1:08:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Katie Hochul's like, we getting paid today, Leticia. We are getting paid. It's like, get out of here. Anyways, Milo, go ahead.
[1:08:08] Milo @0dteSPY: They probably did some due diligence this time and came up with a realistic number that they could settle. Right? So remember, they're gonna throw out a large number. They're gonna drag them in, and then there's gonna be a negotiation. And so if they start with something that they can't pay, like, that's too far out of range, then there's no reason to settle. Right? So you start with 4. If you walk away with a billion, you're doing great. And what did it cost you?
[1:08:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Operation choke point. Exactly what they all try. It's like, ah, we're gonna sue you for this. Yeah. Go ahead, DocNooNoo.
[1:08:43] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Oh, sorry. Yeah. No. Apparently, that 4,600,000,000 is not an actual, like, verified figure. It was just reported by someone, but there's nothing... Like, it hasn't been put on the actual petition. So all they've asked for is things like disgorgement of all gains and a three times gains as a penalty and then a $100,000 per an unauthorized sports wager. But they haven't actually requested a specific figure.
[1:09:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. So this was released by Front Office Sports and all
[1:09:13] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Front Office. Yeah. Mhmm. But,
[1:09:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: everyone else deciding what what you're saying. But it's gonna be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Right? I think the... Doesn't it this deepen the competition between both? Do you feel like at some point one is going by the other, or would that be too far fetched?
[1:09:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: To this. When when when you're both getting by the same person, you tend to look around and be like, hey, man. We need to get out of this. So you wanna team up just to get out of Like, we can go back to fighting, but, like, let's just get out of this. So I don't know. Who knows? But, also, like, VCs are petty as hell. Like, these these MFers are petty as hell. So this... And there's so much money in that. There's so much... They're literally drowning in money, and yet this is the nonsense that we're talking about. I don't know. Wait. Can we talk about... What was the pay... Didn't you have a pay word story? There was, like, a cracking story or something like that?
[1:10:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yeah. That's the next one on the list. So PayWard and Ledger partner for equities on Ledger Wallet. So PayWard is actually Kraken's the... Kraken's parent company. Alleged... They've partnered to let users hold and transact tokenized equities on Ledger hardware wallets, adding cold storage for blockchain based stocks and integrating Paywords x stocks platform into Ledger Wallet. So what the partnership does, a cold storage for tokenized stocks, Ledger Wallet integration, also Kraken integration as well. I think this is huge.
[1:10:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think people don't realize that when you're talking tokenized equities, Ledger's a big name, obviously, if not the leading name in cold wallet storage. There's gonna be so many... Do you guys think it's a coincidence that you saw Quotrons up, you know, 54% or 55% today? Look. The market is... They they have a short... It's very short term memory, and it's the players that are out here to... Bro, Sergio, like, one of the the lead devs for Quotron and and on Inkchain, bro, he goes, in the future... I'm reading this tweet right now. In the future, whenever someone asks about the price of Quotron tokens, please link them to this tweet. I just hardwired 235 Quotron terminals by burning over 1,000,000 USD worth of Quotron tokens. Okay? Like, that... When you hear... Like, that's a burn where people are like, oh, we're gonna put in a buy and buy and burn mechanism. Get out of here. Buy and burn. Is how... This is... Like, when you... When I hear burn, this is how it's intended to be used and the only way, in my opinion. So somebody that's able to, like, to do that, yeah, I think there's there's big things coming. Don't forget the pay word deal with Nasdaq that we just... That we went over. I think it was, like, like, two weeks ago or whatever. That was a $100,000,000 deal that Nasdaq put into pay word. So, yeah, I'm... I'm not gonna say I hate that word. But, yeah, up up up
[1:12:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: for you.
[1:12:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: So what I what I what I really like about it is that this portion separates the x stock from the other stuff. Right? Because x stocks, specifically, they are one to one one to one backed of US from... They have... They actually have the underlying. They're one to one with the underlying. So I think this portion of it is going to take off big, big. So kudos so kudos to to to PayWard and Ledger.
[1:12:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Incon chain. Don't sleep on it. Man, I wish I had a couple thousand dollars lying around to buy a couple more Quotrons. These are no brainers in my opinion.
[1:12:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: How much are they now?
[1:12:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: None. Now they are... Hold, please. OpenSea, 2.2 east. They're up 52% on the day. Crazy. You could've bought them for 1.6 yesterday.
[1:12:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. But you know what? The space is moving so fast, and I... And there's a lot of a lot of movements that companies within the space, they've they've been making some really big moves, solidifying this... Their footsteps across the board. Right? So not only do we see the story with Ondo, with, this Ledger partnership, with Kraken, with Stellar, but also, I don't know if you guys saw the news with QNT. Right? So, QNT put out a tweet about twelve hours ago, stating... This is actually very big, right, because this involves the banks. UK banks have completed the first live customer transactions using tokenized sterling deposits, and they and they ran on the QBDT platform by QNT, delivered through the great British tokenized deposit initiative convened by Barclays, USBC, and even Lloyd's Bank. I think this is another great story, another big move by another company within crypto. What do you guys make of this?
[1:14:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: English people are, like, English people are actually getting, like, allowed to do things? No x money, but, we'll give you this. Here you go. Strolling on the blockchain.
[1:14:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: So the the CEO actually put out a statement. He says, this is real money moving on UK infrastructure. Proof that programmable conditional payments can solve real market challenges from failed completion to APP fraud.
[1:14:33] Moni @monitalan: Not everybody will ever want. Should tell you everything.
[1:14:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: You don't like this news really, dude?
[1:14:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow.
[1:14:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Taj, what are you...
[1:14:51] Voice G: I don't even know what to think about this one. I I... I'm not sure. Honestly, this one's above me.
[1:14:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. You know what I'm looking at? And then while while we're talking about this this insanity is Ultraparra liked one of my tweets. Let's go. Ultraparra bullish on Inkchain. No. No. I'm telling you. Let's go find what collections he has in his wallet. Loot it. Ultraparra. Let's go.
[1:15:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: With that, please, I think we shouldn't sleep on Hedera because Hedera is also working on cross border. You know, I just had to mention it. I just had to mention it. Okay? Don't sleep on Hedera. They have a whole tokenization.
[1:15:28] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: Also working on it.
[1:15:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. But Hedera has
[1:15:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: interrupt the Hedera.
[1:15:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. You gotta let me share my Hedera. Hedera has a whole tokenization studio. Okay? So it'll... It is going to be very interesting to see how that plays out. Right? Okay. Now you can continue. Who was that?
[1:15:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. I know I have a mouthful, but Hedera's tokenization studio? Why does that sound so tiny? When you... Why would they refer to it like that? A studio?
[1:15:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's it's it's huge. It sounds
[1:15:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: It sounds like
[1:15:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is that real?
[1:15:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: That are stamping...
[1:15:57] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: Yeah. Like a studio apartment?
[1:16:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm.
[1:16:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's messed up, David.
[1:16:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, I'm just... I'm... You know, tokenization studio. Why did they said... Why did they call it that?
[1:16:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Because it's allocated to tokenization.
[1:16:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Studios are not known to be, like, big. You know? It's like, what about a tokenization mansion?
[1:16:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you're saying because they named it tokenization Studio, you feel like they they they limited themselves a little bit?
[1:16:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Saying there are people who are rich. Okay? It is what it is. Congratulations. We know that you're trying to assimilate and talk to, you know, the plebs. We get it. We understand what you're doing. We'll buy your token.
[1:16:37] Voice G: Remember Microsoft Studio? But, when I think of Studio, I think of creativity.
[1:16:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly. Which is great. Uh-huh. Creativity is great. That's how you get innovation, and that's how you expand. That's how you build amazing things.
[1:16:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: And innovation rhymes with tokenization.
[1:16:57] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: Wait. So is this, like, a competitor to Apple Studio or Adobe Studio?
[1:17:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. It's not competing with anything. They are on their own league. Okay? No competition. Let's go ahead, Era.
[1:17:09] Milo @0dteSPY: This is what we're doing?
[1:17:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm just saying. If there's... If it's a studio, I promise you there's other studios in, like, in close proximity. That's all I'm gonna say.
[1:17:23] Moni @monitalan: Okay.
[1:17:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright, Dave. Alright. So next thing I have on my list is... One second. Let me bring it up. Alright. BTC, you guys wanna talk about Bitcoin for a second?
[1:17:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hit us. Let's go. Alright.
[1:17:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Milo, I... I'm actually curious to hear your your thoughts. We... I spoke to Landy about this, and we all know, you know, what he thinks. And we're all looking at similar levels. So Bitcoin actually came down and retested a very big level, and it just bounced on it. They retested that $8,082.08, $82.09, just kissed it beautifully and bounced right up. Now if you look at the daily, it is... It has been trading sideways all day. Right? Not much. It's been bouncing between $8,383.09 85. So on the daily, it is slightly above resistance, but right below support. What we would like to see, especially with the daily closing, if we can close above this... If we can close above $83.05, I wouldn't rule out some kind of continuation to the upside. The reason why I say that is when you look at the liquidity, there's a lot of liquidity built into the top side. And we actually looked at it earlier today. There's, like, 10,000,000 at around 90 k, but then there's also about, like, 23,000,000 at 94 k. They can just be front running some of the moves, but I think with the the way the liquidity is sitting, I think it makes it a lot a lot interesting. And like we... Like I mentioned yesterday, with the end of the month coming up, it's also going to be very interesting to see where we close. Right? Because if we start to see closes, like, the monthly closes above that 83 area, I think there's a solid case to be made whether the bottom is in or not. What do you think, Milo?
[1:19:17] Milo @0dteSPY: I think we get one more round of fuckery, to be perfectly honest. That doesn't mean that it's gonna... Like, I don't think 50 k or whatever, but I think we get one more round of fuckery. And I'm here for it because I have leaps on IBIP that are December 2028. So I'd like to add to that position. But, yeah, that's that's kinda my take. I... I'm just I went far enough out that I really didn't care what it does. It can go down. I'll add. But we're gonna go through my strikes, so I just have to wait.
[1:19:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And I think even... Because we're also bullish long term. Right? Even if we do go lower and hit certain areas, in my opinion, it's all a buying opportunity. You know? Because would you... Like, I always say, do you wanna buy Bitcoin at a discount, do you wanna do you wanna buy it at a premium? You... With an, an asset like Bitcoin, knowing the potential that it has long term, kinda just wanna buy it at a discount. Right? I know David's laughing, but that's like investing one zero one, buying at a discount versus buying at a premium. No?
[1:20:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100%. I just hear DocNooNoo's... I'm I'm eating my disc crazy. I'm sorry now.
[1:20:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: All good.
[1:20:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: I just hear DocNooNoo's
[1:20:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: voice in my head going, 29 k. Vogue. It's coming. 29 k. Vogue. Congratulations.
[1:20:36] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: It's... Well, I mean, 50 by nine k, same same. But, like, I am seeing a triple rejection on Bitcoin right now. But, yeah, that's just my thoughts.
[1:20:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: You're seeing a what rejection?
[1:20:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm.
[1:20:49] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: It, like, triple tapped 87 k. So, like... Yeah. I don't know. Does it tap it a fourth time? Reject? Does it break through? Who knows? I I don't have a magic ball, but it has touched a seven k, like, three times.
[1:21:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. It it just makes things a lot more interesting. Right? Because the other scenario what... That we discussed with with Landy, myself, and and a few others on the other space is what what if we don't bottom in October? What if... And and I know a lot of people are accounting the whole 365 and 364 thing, but what if this this bear market plays out similar to the bear market that we saw in 2013 going into 2015 where we had... It was more than one year. It was over four hundred days. So what if this one plays out just like that? Right? So it's gonna be very interesting to see how it all plays out. We do have big levels coming up, right, like that 83 that 83 k. Where does the monthly close? Where does the daily close tonight? And you're absolutely right. We have rejected multiple times at $80.87 k. But here's the thing. Right, DocNooNoo? Before the run up that we that we saw on on Bitcoin, there was over 40,000,000 in liquidity sitting on the ask at 88 k. This was on spot. I covered it on a stream, and we spoke about it in multiple spaces. Right? This was before the actual run up. And granted, there were other things that were happening around that time in terms of, like, how CME was positioned as well that helped catapult things to the upside. And now I'm seeing not 40 not 40,000,000, right, but now half of that, 23,000,000, is sitting high in the nineties. So now do we go down first? Do we... Because if you look at the weekly, and we were talking about it with Alpha Gamer yesterday, if you look at the weekly, it can form another shoulder. Right? It has, like, that half shoulder, half head that's formed... Half shoulder at the head, and then now, potentially, the whole thing will play out as a inverse head and shoulder if we're able to come down to, like, 69 or 68. Right? So do we come down there and then take the liquidity? I think it's gonna be very interesting to see because if we start to lose that area, I think we all can see. If we start to lose at 68, six, even 65, we start to see closes below that. I think we're we're all in the same page that if we start to lose that area, the potential for lower is greater. Right? So Bitcoin is very... At at a very, very interesting interesting moment. And what's very funny, if you if you guys fall... If you guys don't follow Tony, you should definitely follow Tony. Tony CMT, he called this run up way early. He was one of the few peoples that mentioned, hey. BTC has the opportunity of going high into the eighties, maybe possibly even nineties. And he himself is calling, which is crazy. He called the move to the up side, and even he himself is calling the move to the downside. And, of course, we're speaking of Bitcoin, so the Bitcoin pocket is here. But overall, I think whether the bottom is in or not, the monthly close is going to tell us a lot.
[1:24:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hi, Landy. Hi. I was talking
[1:24:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: How is everybody? Anybody get caught up in bickets shenanigans?
[1:24:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. We did not. No. And I
[1:24:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: I hope everybody out there is safe.
[1:24:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. And I was talking about this this QNT story, which I really like, but Dave didn't like and Taz didn't like. So I figured we move on to to Bitcoin. They didn't like the QNT the QNT story. I think it was great. I I think it it it positions the world of crypto in a very nice in a very nice spot, but they didn't think that. So thank you for coming.
[1:24:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: So, Lendi, also, Hedera has a tokenization studio.
[1:24:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. They do.
[1:24:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Like, has anybody cut any cool tracks from that studio yet?
[1:24:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. There you go. Music studio. Wow. You know what mean? Art studio.
[1:24:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. Unbelievable, Andy.
[1:24:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Did did Hedera take over, like, Biggie's old studio?
[1:24:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: I hear Rae Kwan. Rae Kwan's what's his name?
[1:24:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Sorry. Big Kwan. Ray Kwan's is
[1:24:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: out there recording trash.
[1:24:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was Ghostface Killer.
[1:25:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ghostface Killer.
[1:25:02] Moni @monitalan: I'm gonna send AVR and Maxx team.
[1:25:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: And Scottie Pippen and Satoshi about Madeira?
[1:25:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: They're already in there.
[1:25:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Come on now.
[1:25:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. What's funny, I know Landy Landy, if you still do, because I know last time we spoke about Jaeveda, we all spoke about, you know, owning some. But
[1:25:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: I, of course, own a
[1:25:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: A few.
[1:25:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: Probably an obscene amount of Hedera. Nat, do you know how long I've been in crypto? I have Hedera bags from... Well, I don't even know if they're in profit. How far did Hedera go down? I haven't looked at it in a while because I don't actively trade Hedera.
[1:25:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Hedera is one that we hold. I think it went down to 5%.
[1:25:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh oh god. Oh god.
[1:25:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's up?
[1:25:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, dear. It's it's... Hold on. Hold on. Am I still up from my freaking... My twenty nineteen entry? I am.
[1:25:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. It's up. You're welcome. You're welcome, Landy. You're absolutely welcome.
[1:26:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm literally up, I I think, like, a little over 50% on my twenty nineteen entries for my spot buys on Hedera.
[1:26:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I've had it with it.
[1:26:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, you Thank you, Hedera.
[1:26:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, yeah. You're welcome. I'll let them know you said thank you.
[1:26:19] Moni @monitalan: Let them let
[1:26:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: them know I wanna cut my own track in the studio for free.
[1:26:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: I gotcha.
[1:26:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, they're right across the hall. Just go say what's up.
[1:26:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Look. I I honestly think that Hedera will have some upside. I I mean, I think we've talked about it before. It's like, I could see it... The problem is I could see it getting to, like, 20 to 25¢. And then if it doesn't break out from there, yes, it's a great, you know, trade. But if you're a long term holder, you're waiting for a breakout above, you know, that... What is it? Like, 38 to
[1:26:55] Moni @monitalan: 40¢.
[1:26:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: 38. Yep.
[1:26:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So, Hedera, one of the few that I bought, forgot about, and never took profit on back in 2019 into 2020. So I'm just... I'm I'm part of the community. I am a community member. I'm like every single NFT holder out there. I am part of the community.
[1:27:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, Milo. You got you got company, Milo. There you go, bro. Look
[1:27:22] Moni @monitalan: at you.
[1:27:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, welcome to the community.
[1:27:24] Milo @0dteSPY: The community is great. It's just how many can you join?
[1:27:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, bro. Bro, if we're talking about coins, I I might I might have you beat. I'm I'm a community member on a lot of stuff. I got so many bags of just dust. I had I had, the one time... The one security incident that I had, they they drained a bag of of dust, wallets in in... Off of a my own stupidity at the time, but compromised computer hardware wall plugged in yada yada yada. I was checking to see... They bag... They they took a bag of dust. Would you know it? That turned out to be a very substantial... Like, at the time, I was like, whatever. It's trash. It's literally like, good job. Good. You got you got some some some old coins. Nothing that's ever gonna move again. And then and then things pumped in the bull market, and I was sad because that bag of dust was actually worth a lot of money.
[1:28:27] Voice G: Wasn't Zcash, was it?
[1:28:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. No. I have... Zcash has its own its own wallet, and I actually... No no joke. I I actually named the the hardware wallet internally when you name the wallets. I named it Cobalt Coin.
[1:28:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You see the... Speaking of Zcash, you guys see the... Somebody retweeted Zcash tweet from, like, a Zcash bro from, like, 2023, and he tweeted out. He was like, just spent 0.8 Zcash to buy this burrito. And the guy retweets it, and he's like, $1,400 burrito. Momo.
[1:29:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's not hilarious.
[1:29:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's great. Like, they're like, I... It's like the... You know, everyone knows Bitcoin pizza story. It's like, imagine Zcash burrito. The Zcash burrito guy, we gotta celebrate this, man. What the hell, guys? $16.
[1:29:18] avi crypto 🟩🐉🌱 @avicrypto770: Somebody watching a Zordon all now?
[1:29:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was
[1:29:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was buying Zcash at, like, 60 and 70.
[1:29:24] Moni @monitalan: Did you mint did you mint any of these NFCs? Anybody mint these NFCs or no?
[1:29:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: On Zcash?
[1:29:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:29:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Oh. No. I I know how
[1:29:33] Moni @monitalan: one, but I don't... I need to go check how it did. I
[1:29:36] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: don't know. No. Don't look. Don't look, Marni. Don't
[1:29:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Now you know why I did not go and mint anything on Zcash. Like, what what That first one was a couple ago.
[1:29:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: $100, like, thousand or something, Lindsey? No? Am I crazy?
[1:29:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: They they opened at 3,000 and went down to a $100. Sure.
[1:29:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh.
[1:29:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Like, if you... There is no buyers. There's sellers.
[1:30:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landy, you gotta know something. Can we just get a couple of devs to just, like, start a Monero NFT marketplace? The degenerates will spend on anything, bro. There is How are gonna
[1:30:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: do it? It's the same with Zcash. How are gonna do it? You're gonna you're gonna have your own centralized server infrastructure on the side of
[1:30:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: it to will say they don't know, bro. These momos on you don't know. They're not being...
[1:30:22] Moni @monitalan: Don't call momos. Don't call them momos. You're an idiot. You're a dumb... Hey. Some of us did at least one. Okay. Oh, come.
[1:30:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen to me. I am... Are talking to?
[1:30:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sometimes I I like to get scammed just to feel something is what Monty said.
[1:30:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what DocNooNoo says all the time. I'm like,
[1:30:40] Moni @monitalan: why did you buy the... Nat two. 10,000 way to say die. Why?
[1:30:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Why not? I... He will never let me forget this.
[1:30:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's what
[1:30:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: you went
[1:30:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: down to.
[1:30:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: 10,000 times I'm trying
[1:30:53] Moni @monitalan: to kill you.
[1:30:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's too funny.
[1:30:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I needed to feel something. And then when and then when the 30 NFTs that you bought, okay, literally 15 x, it's like, are you feeling... Do you wanna feel the money?
[1:31:09] Moni @monitalan: Would you wanna feel the money?
[1:31:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sell. Sell.
[1:31:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nope. Wait. You're supposed to sell when you're up?
[1:31:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Everybody knows. Is that what we look for?
[1:31:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: According to CT, you buy more. And then you sell when it goes down, like, 99%. That's when
[1:31:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: you sell. You sell.
[1:31:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. My favorite my favorite is people that do TA on NFT collections.
[1:31:32] Moni @monitalan: Those Yo. Come
[1:31:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: on. My favorite.
[1:31:36] Moni @monitalan: Do TA... What do you mean? Do what? Like, they draw a lot
[1:31:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Technical analysis.
[1:31:41] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Oh, they do? Prices.
[1:31:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Thought they were just dancing on the on the on the poll for NFTs, but I'm sorry. I I misunderstood.
[1:31:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You gotta love him. Well, that's like guys that are literally sending Jack Butcher 80,000 named Yogurt. Anyways, DocNooNoo, go ahead.
[1:31:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: DocNooNoo, go ahead. And then I I guess we'll we'll we'll speak a little more about Bitcoin, and then I do have to jump.
[1:32:04] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. Just an update on the bit bit debt situation. So the exploit totaled a massive $351,000,000. However, the CEO has said that's fully covered. No one's funds are lost. They've got a big gap protection fund for up to 464,000,000. So it came in just under that.
[1:32:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. Shout out to Mick.
[1:32:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Coincidence? That's so nice. What... It's so convenient. You know, like, there's a lot of coincidences in crypto lately, but I'm glad that that, obviously, you know, people are are gonna get their money back. Some people. That's good. It's nice.
[1:32:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I just... So, like... So they had this fund, and why are they disclosing it now? Because they they have mitigated the attack vectors, apparently. Is that... Because you don't disclose that. You're... Now you're just giving them a target number. Yeah.
[1:32:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Has the bleed... Like, literally, this is, like, four hours fresh. And I was just like, guys, everything's fine. It was us who robbed you. I mean, we're covering everything. It's okay.
[1:33:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't stress. Funneled into the into the fun. It's like
[1:33:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: the same 40,000 that we gave Ben Zhao, he's gonna send back now. So it's it's gonna be fine. Everything will be fine. Brother, I mean, sometimes it's in plain sight. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. But, no, you know, congrats. Does anybody here have a Bitken account? I I don't think I've I don't think I've met anyone. You do?
[1:33:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do. I do. Oh, yeah.
[1:33:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Interesting. I used to... So I used to I used to buy floored runes and then go to BitCat, and then and then I would I would pump the the USDT side by by doing deposits of USDT on the pair so that... And then the the AMM would shoot the price up. And then
[1:33:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: I So bugging grind. Runes. You're such a.
[1:33:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So... But but I would just... I would sweep lots of runes, and then I do it the other way. So, like, if if it was down below so that after it dumps down, like, it's not catching parity with those freaking... With the with the literal marketplace that is on Bitcoin. So you're waiting... You have this ten minute delay no matter what, and and half the time, it was thirty to... Thirty minutes to an hour. So if you dump the price out of the runes on BitCut, you could just buy a whole bunch of them. And then as, and then start... Then you transfer them out. And about an hour later, you could list them at a higher price on the marketplace while price recovered on Big Ed. I mean,
[1:34:31] Voice G: I would
[1:34:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm clearly just... I would never do that. Don't go look at the chart.
[1:34:36] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Okay.
[1:34:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Banana gun.
[1:34:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I maybe did this with epic, epic, epic, like like, for, like, two weeks straight.
[1:34:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's funny.
[1:34:47] Moni @monitalan: I gotta tell charted in the
[1:34:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: AMM. It's not... Nobody got hurt in the process. Okay? Their AMM was auto refilling the USDT pool. Right?
[1:34:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Got it. The guy... I won't look at the chart. I won't go back and dig. I promise. Promise.
[1:35:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Don't do it. Don't
[1:35:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't go look.
[1:35:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. So I I did... But be... Before we head out, Landy, I did give give my take on on on Bitcoin in terms of where the liquidity is. There's a lot stacked, above 90. But, it's... For me, I'm looking at where the daily closes, but also we have the end of the month coming up. Where the monthly close it... Closes is extremely important because we'll get that, in my opinion, for what I'm looking for, that confirmation as to whether the bottom is in or not?
[1:35:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I... I'm not gonna go that far even if we do close with a trend break above $82.08, which we just spiked today. Right?
[1:35:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, we just...
[1:35:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: We tapped that, lower high. That is the bear market lower high. You wanna see it close above there, obviously. That's what Matt's looking for.
[1:35:47] Moni @monitalan: Yep.
[1:35:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: I would not be calling it... For me personally, I would not be calling it, you know, bear market over. That's indication of a market in transition, and now we need to see it actually complete higher lows on the monthly time frame.
[1:36:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: That would be the first step, though. No?
[1:36:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It would be the first step. Yeah. Get the trend break. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. That's what I'd be looking for. Because what you don't wanna... You know, you don't wanna assume that the macro low is in and then have it... You know, it it puts in a higher high in the monthly breaks trending structure, down trending structure, and then just makes new lower low, then that's... Then it's a deviation. So Yep. It's more about, you know, if it does confirm above eighty two eight for me, we get a nice trend break, I'm fifty fifty. We just need to see a higher, lower, equal low from there on a on a monthly. And we can front run that on weekly. So, I mean, that's gonna be fairly easy.
[1:36:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. Agreed. Agreed. And then we also have the daily the daily closing closing tonight in about fifty two minutes, fifty three minutes. So let's see. I think overall, it's interesting. And we're we're starting to see some movement across the board, not only in Bitcoin, but also on on some of the alts that we were talking about today, including Litecoin, that massive pump in in Litecoin. We have Everdrome that's been that's been running. Lit is still running. It did hit resistance at, $5.50 or $5.60. It backtracked, and it's slowly been trying to regain itself. But VVV, LiDAR, Aerodrome, LTC, those four, they've been making nice strides within, like, recently. Right? Even Aerodrome, remember we were talking about it at, like, 38¢.
[1:37:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Yeah. And, I mean, obviously, when VVV was down trending, I was looking for that $2 and under. We got that and then some. Right? Like, we we got, we got under $2 for quite quite a period of time where I was doing concentrated liquidity. It's been a really nice play. I I do think that, like, Hyperliquid and VVV, even though, they are on really good runs, like, Hyperliquid, 98 to a $100 Yep. Is enough for me. I actually had some trades. Obviously, I've been in spots since, like, the the 20 to $25 range is what I was really, really, really bidding heavily on the spot side. But from the trade side, I'm kinda closed out. Even if it does run further, it's fine. This is kind of a good area. Same with, VVV. Like, I've I've obviously been a big, big proponent of picking up in those in those low side structures. But I I think from longer term time frames, if we do start to see a correction, begin to occur, you know, end of... You know, whether it's, you know, the the the remainder of this month or early next month, that's where I'm gonna actually be looking for the potential bid side again. But... And they look really good. Yeah. Lighter too. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said... And I was late to lighter. I was late. I felt like I was late, and then I realized, oh, wait. I guess I wasn't late.
[1:38:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. You you
[1:38:49] Moni @monitalan: You told us a week ago to buy Litecoin, and
[1:38:51] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: we didn't buy it.
[1:38:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: So Yep. There you go. It was at 55.
[1:38:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. We were talking about
[1:38:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: this last week. Yes. We
[1:38:58] Moni @monitalan: were. Yeah.
[1:38:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. We were.
[1:39:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, wow. Yeah. I forgot that we even mentioned it.
[1:39:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. And then we discussed it with with, Ryan on Wolf Bitcoin space when it was in the process of of bottoming out.
[1:39:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I guess I I think I wasn't involved in that conversation. Was more you, Bits, and Ryan, because I know Bits is big on
[1:39:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: On on Litecoin.
[1:39:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Litecoin as well.
[1:39:19] Moni @monitalan: Yep. Yeah. Alright, guys. This has been
[1:39:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: a great space. Thank you so much, Landy, for joining us. Always love talking Bitcoin with you and and markets. Dave, thank you so thank you so much for cohosting with me today. And Monica,. Thank you everyone for the stories, for chiming in. It was an incredible space. A little smaller, a little more intimate, but it was a great conversation, great space nonetheless. So we will be back on Monday. Again, I believe Dave will be hosting, but make sure you guys follow all things crypto. Follow the main account, but then follow all of us individually because we have a whole lot of shows, a whole lot of content coming at you every day, all day long. With that being said, guys, you guys have an incredible night. Dave, anything you wanna say before we close out?
[1:40:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Clap is for everyone.
[1:40:07] Moni @monitalan: See you on Discord.
[1:40:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: See you guys on Monday. Have a good one.