ALL THINGS CAPITAL MARKETS & AI

# ALL THINGS CAPITAL MARKETS & AI | 2026-10-01 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1dxYlaAMwbyJX | status: approved
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[0:00:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I sincerely hope you're all enjoying the music while you wait.
[0:00:51] Moni @monitalan: Okay. Fantastic.
[0:00:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: How are you doing, Moni? It's good to see you.
[0:00:56] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: I'm good. How are you?
[0:00:57] Moni @monitalan: I don't... Let me share it on the chat.
[0:01:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm Hey, DocNooNoo.
[0:01:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: I think I've... I shared the right one. I I might have shared the yep. That's me. You're probably wondering how I got here. But... Yeah. So, please like and share this out there. I know there is no purple pill. There never is when I'm hosting behind this account because I'm starting it from a PC. Because if I tried to start it from the phone, well, it wouldn't work because I don't have that capability as a delegate, And no one has sent me the password yet. And I know why snap. I know why they haven't sent me the password yet. They're afraid of what I might do with all of this power. Right? Right? Could you imagine
[0:01:42] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Okay.
[0:01:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: If I
[0:01:43] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: had a purple if I rocked.
[0:01:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Uh-oh. Is it me? Uh-oh. Don't tell me. Thumbs up if you can hear me. Please. Anything.
[0:02:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Tell me.
[0:02:01] Moni @monitalan: Can you can
[0:02:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: you hear me?
[0:02:02] Moni @monitalan: Do something for
[0:02:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no.
[0:02:04] Moni @monitalan: Oh, we lost Nat.
[0:02:07] Voice H: Uh-oh.
[0:02:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let's see if I can hear me.
[0:02:12] Moni @monitalan: Okay. I see a thumbs up. Oh, can you hear me? I don't know if you can hear me.
[0:02:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: And So, Moni, let me hit you up in the chat.
[0:02:25] Moni @monitalan: I'm getting thumbs... A lot of thumbs up from everybody from Landy. So I don't know where Landy went. So maybe he
[0:02:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm here. I'm here. They can hear me as well. You can't hear me. They can hear me. Monique, hear me, this is hilarious audience.
[0:02:40] Moni @monitalan: I don't know what happened to Landy. I can't hear him. So I'm doing a monologue because he hasn't added anybody else to the speaker.
[0:02:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: I am trying to add people. Monique, I'm trying
[0:02:51] Moni @monitalan: to add them.... Wasn't.
[0:02:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: I feel like this is, an AT and T come... Or was it AT and T or Sprint? Can you hear me now? Oh, good. Start
[0:03:02] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: and everybody Nat Nat, can you hear me? Back.
[0:03:05] Moni @monitalan: Nat Nat, I know you asked about credits. Yes. I said today's
[0:03:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Monica, can you hear... Hey.
[0:03:12] Moni @monitalan: Don't think she can hear down, I think, 20 some percent, but I'm not I'm not surprised because I think people are selling before, right, anything happens.
[0:03:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't think she can hear us. Monica, can you hear us?
[0:03:26] Moni @monitalan: But I don't
[0:03:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: know if she can. I
[0:03:29] Moni @monitalan: think there's still hope for credits. We'll see. I haven't looked at the... I don't think that many credit unions were created either. So I think everybody's wait and see except those are are selling just to, I think, make some money. But, I'm not surprised I kind of expected this.
[0:03:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nat Nat, this is funny. Poor Moni can't hear us.
[0:03:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Monica, we're here. Alone. Yeah. We're... You're not alone. We're here.
[0:03:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: We're not alone. We promise.
[0:04:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. I feel like an intro to the Michael Jackson song right now. Like, you are not alone. We are here with you. Though you're far away. No.
[0:04:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: We... Everyone can hear all of us. She just can't yet. So, to Milo in the crowd yet, she
[0:04:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't think she can.
[0:04:17] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: I don't think she can. Yeah.
[0:04:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. So Moni Moni is the the odd person out here. I think she's taken a lot.
[0:04:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, there
[0:04:27] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: you go.
[0:04:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: She'll be back. I see a request. Let's see if I can... First off, let's straighten out a few things here. That's Tash. So let's get, Nat Nat. Let's get you into coho position here. And I'm actually in the space as a puppet, but the
[0:04:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: puppet see you.
[0:04:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. The puppet is invisible. Wow. So the puppet... You will see when the puppet requests, though, that the puppet has actually been here the entire time.
[0:05:00] Moni @monitalan: That's news to me.
[0:05:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: By the way, Dave said he will be in in a bit.
[0:05:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Cool. Okay. Well, the puppet's having problems. And, anyway, I'm here. Nat is here. Moni is on her way back up.
[0:05:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Taj is here. I'm assuming that's Cade behind the wolf terminal account, which, which apparently Ryan doesn't like because it makes him uncomfortable.
[0:05:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: But, yeah, to... Look. Big, big day today. Today is a big, big day for crypto and markets and all of the rest. We can get to, the credit union's conversation that Moni was having when she couldn't hear myself or not. And, Moni, it is great to to have you, and I I freaking love that you're just ready to go. Like, you know what? I'm gonna carry this. I love it. Absolutely love it. We've got Taj joined up on stage here. We've got the wolf terminal account. By the way, if you don't know the wolf terminal account, you're probably already following it, but if you aren't, you should be. Got a lot of friends and friendly faces in the crowd here and a few people that hate my guts. But, nonetheless, here I am, and I am hosting this show. And
[0:06:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: That you are, my friend.
[0:06:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Alright? So you're like, oh, man. If only there was a purple pill so I could give Landy all kinds of wonderful feedback behind the ATC account. And I'm like, no. No. You don't get that.
[0:06:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: And shout out to Cade. He was with us yesterday too on yesterday's space for a little bit. Thank you for stopping by yesterday, Cade.
[0:06:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, Cade's an absolute Chad. Yes. I freaking love Cade, behind the Wolf terminal account, which I'm still getting used to, by the way, myself. Just saying saying that instead of Wolf Bitcoin, but we all know that a correction is coming soon for Bitcoin even though it did do something very significant as, we seem to have lost money. We got a monthly closing trend break, and we set a quarterly low for Bitcoin. Does that mean that the moon is the next thing that's coming up here and then Mars and so on and so forth?
[0:07:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: It does not.
[0:07:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Yeah. No. It's a... I need the Consuelo soundboard. No.
[0:07:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. Mijo. No. Yeah.
[0:07:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: But it is it is a positive sign. Right? I would like to see the bulls rally a little bit further, before we get the next bigger correction, but it's not about the move up right now. It's about the move down. The next big move down will define whether or not the macro lows are in. So... But it is fun. It's fun to see green, candles and all that good stuff. So enjoy it while it lasts, at least in the near term.
[0:08:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. Yeah. And and the... I was actually talking about this yesterday. One thing that I that I... That we mentioned, Mandy, for me, my thesis remains the same of that 100 k area. Right? Because we can... Like, exactly like we did. You and I mentioned, closing the monthly above $82.08 is important, it's step one. Right? We have to see some kind of continuation, and we have to make sure these levels of the downside hold by... Otherwise, we're at risk of giving it all back.
[0:08:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. I will say that... Look. Like, one of the big things for me personally is that now that we have a structure break is when looking at the potential downside, it does favor, the bulls much more than it would have had the closure failure... Failed, above $82.08. But we did get that nice close. So, slight, but it's still early in the October candle, so we'll kinda see where things go. What are we pushing, likes? We we pushed back above 85,000 for Bitcoin. Ethereum, had a nice little lower term time frame rally as well. Kind of everything is following Bitcoin. It's it's Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin right now. We've had some larger corrections in other coins, relative to the structure consolidation that we see with Bitcoin and some of the majors. We have had some some runners and small... In smaller caps, but even some of the some of the hot coins, you know, that have been really strong throughout the the the bear downturns and and back into the bullish move up, we've seen that a lot of the, a lot of those have begun corrections. You know, you've got your your hyperliquids, your VVVs, your, what was the other one? You brought it up earlier today, Nat.
[0:09:55] Moni @monitalan: I'll go ahead.
[0:09:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: ADA? No. No. You brought it up specifically. Lit.
[0:10:01] Moni @monitalan: No. The Lit that you're part of the community. Aero...
[0:10:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, Aerodrome. Aerodrome.
[0:10:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Aerodrome, Lit. So so you've got... But they're they're in some important areas, but... Because a lot of them have been very volatile to the upside if they lose some of these areas. Same thing as, like, Bitcoin. Although Bitcoin's got major support right below. Ethereum, same thing, but, you you know, we are seeing, and I don't know. I haven't looked today. I've had a lot of things to do. I think, you know, hype is holding up pretty well in some of these areas, but it is looking, you know, for consolidation structure. You've got a little bit of some nice higher low structure still going on here locally. But if it loses this, you know, you're probably looking for a discount down 74, 75 at minimum. But, you know, I I... We did go through that nice compression with Bitcoin, though. You know what's funny, Nat, is I've noticed that hype has liked to follow kind of Bitcoin's footsteps. Well well, you know, after the rally to the, $50 region and then big retrace to $20.25, it's kind of followed suit with Bitcoin and shrugged off the downside. So who knows? Who knows? I like it here, actually. Do I. A little bounce if it's... If it stays here.
[0:11:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do think overall hyperliquid has a lot a lot of potential.
[0:11:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: It could. It could absolutely melt faces in the next bull. And and I do mean true bull market. So, and I think that many will. But, you know, there's there's, at least one major agenda item that I wanted to get to today. Right? Like, I I didn't put out all this fancy... Y'all put in all kinds of work and stuff, and I'm over here just slopping it up. Right? So, in... True to that form of just kinda slopping it up and doing very little preparation and or research for this, I wanted to bring everyone, to everyone's attention, that PewDiePie has, basically created an ablated model of coin 3.5, 9,000,000,000 parameter model that is going to be added to, his Odysseus app. So I'm actually looking forward to this. I think weights are gonna be releasing in about two or three days, And I like this kind of stuff. I like when people are doing cool local model work, and and taking some of these other models and and retraining them and and and really just refining them in in an open or more open way. Albeit, he did, disclose that he's gonna have some checkpoints there. But what I... More importantly, what I do like is there's been some really good updates to Odysseus, which is the harness, with some other interesting things in there, for the local AI, AI models, or you can import API keys from all the majors. And, I don't think anybody's really talked about it here on this stage. But for those that that might be interested in local model AI, you know, you've got your different studios like LM Studio and stuff like that. I think that Odysseus kinda flies under the radar. A lot of people that do use it aren't here talking about it. And one of the cool things is is the model that he's gonna be releasing here is fairly small and can fit on some, you know, fairly, targeting some some more lower end hardware even if you do have to do some GPU sharing with RAM and stuff like that. So I thought that was really cool. I've never really been a big PewDiePie fan and, like, when he was coming up in terms of the gaming stuff, not... Just not my thing. Didn't... No hate towards the guy or anything like that. But I think it's cool, and he goes through these different arcs, over his career in YouTube, and now he's been on the AI arc. But he's actually, more importantly, moving the needle, I think. And and because of his experience with content creation, he has a a pretty unique view of how he would like to handle things and and the way that he's expressed that view when it comes to AI and harnessing that, and and and getting that prepped for yourself where you have the control is really cool. And and the tools that he's created are are actually very easy to use. Still need a little bit of guidance, but you know what? You can use one of those fancy frontier models that everybody has free access to to help guide you through setups, and set up process for any of that kind of stuff. And I encourage people to try it out. Anyway, the waits aren't released. You can wait till the third. But I thought that was a cool announcement. And the only other thing that I have on on the docket here that, you know, we can discuss, you know, local model stuff, but we don't have our local model expert team here. Like, there... There's no Cantor codes. You know? Cantor's not here. Bread... I don't know where Bread is. He's probably doing some important work. You know? Even Koma, he's he's... You know you know, he's not here right now when they can probably speak to these things much better. And Dave is just sitting there staring at me from the audience. So, and I don't know how much local AI work, Dave has actually done. I'm sure that he has a good handle on all of it, but he prefers and uses a lot of the big stuff, that I think is really cool. But I think it's just important to be up on the local model side. The only other thing that I wanted to talk about, and this is relevant to Nat, and then we can just kinda go whatever direction we want. Nat Nat, you know how we we often hear in the Bitcoin max e spaces? Not, you know, not Wolf. Wolf doesn't really have, any Bitcoin max e spaces. But when there was some, or we have participated in some in the past, a popular narrative is that the US dollar is going to collapse, and no one wants US debt. And one of the big narratives was look at China selling off, US debt, how how much they've decreased over the years and how... You know, the whole narrative of BRICS is gonna take over. Right? Like, the US dollar's dead because everybody wants to join BRICS now, and look at how much they've drawn down in terms of their, in terms of their holdings, their treasury holdings. Right? Well, isn't it funny? And I said this to you and Dave and Moni and others that were here. Cool. And and others that were here at the time. When the Genius Act passed, I said, you know what's gonna happen is we're gonna get a lot of, a lot of this is gonna drive treasury demand. And everyone else outside of our little circle here and some of the people that we talk to is completely against that. That's not gonna happen. It's too small. No one's gonna do that. Why would they ever do that? And it's a, oh, well, stablecoin issuers now hold $200,000,000,000 in treasuries, which offsets about 40% of what China has dumped. So, and that's only gonna grow, by the way. So, yeah. Suck on it, doomers. Anyway
[0:17:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do know what's very that out of way. I don't... Do you remember what... I I don't... I think it was, like, two years ago or two and a half years ago. There was this big push on the US dollar is dead, and BRICS are going... BRICS completely taking over. And they were... At that time, there was a lot of BRICS tokens just popping up, popping up because people seem so dead set on, you know, the US dollar dying. I always thought that to be very interesting because I don't see a world in which there's no USD.
[0:18:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, you see the US dollar dying. What what a lot of these grifters don't tell you on the other side of that is that everything else dies with it, including everything that's going on with bricks. Sorry. You can't have one without the other. We're too tied globally, to one another. Whether you're... Whether you believe that there's, you know, adversaries and allies, really doesn't matter. We're all tied together. And Trump has proved that very well through, honestly, an action that many disagree with. I'm okay with, but people can hate on me for that, and that's fine. But the actions that have been taken, you know, between, Venezuela and Iran and, like, all this other stuff, you know, what it did do is it proved to the world, that the the global financial system and the global economic system is one giant system. And then when you when you affect one part of that system, everything suffers in a negative way. So if you wanna take a positive out of that, it's a little bit of teaching time brought to you by big daddy orange man bad. So this is kind of... You know, I I... And and one of the other things, and we talked about this is, you know, in conjunction with that, it was all, you know, all the fear of commodities, rising and, like... And all of the the... You know, it's because of oil. It's because of commodities that my life sucks, and therefore, it's because of Donald Trump and or it's because of Joe Biden and or because of these things or those things. Right? Well, one of the one of the key things I think that came up during, space, yesterday with, the wonderful Wolf Terminal down there as well. Was it yesterday or the day before? I don't remember. But, with North Star, one of the things that that... If you go back in time and you account for inflation, we're actually paying less for energy than we have historically. Right? So everybody that's like, oh my god. The gas is killing us, and that's why I can't afford grocery. I'm like, no. No. That's actually... We're actually chain dollar terms where we we would be... We're still lower than we were in o eight and 2011 even in chain dollar terms. Like, in fact, we're already still sitting below those levels, not just on the chart right now, but we're way far below in terms of inflation. 1980 came up and a bunch of other things came up. But one of the key things that that I did wanna bring up as relation to it is the main reason that a lot of people feel a lot of pain in society right now is because wages have not kept up with inflation. That's the primary reason.
[0:20:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. Also, Landy, my grocery bill has come down quite significantly. So there is progress to be made. There's progress being made there.
[0:20:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. Yeah. And and we are gonna see... One of the things, you know, we... This is going way back. This goes back to before the election. There was a conversation had here about a stronger US dollar and how negative that would be, and I disagreed at the time with someone that we know from, you know, former SEC. Right? And I said, no. A stronger dollar here. First, you're gonna get a weaker dollar. We saw the weaker dollar, and then you're gonna get a stronger dollar. And why is that? What what what makes that good is because you get the weaker dollar, to to drive in all the investment, and then you strengthen the dollar once the investment's here for the manufacturing build out, because it does, it it it decreases the cost of labor with the stronger dollar, and allows for better purchasing power, which and all the... These other things. And we're actually seeing a lot of that play out. So I'm not buying into the stuff. I thought that this was really interesting with the offsetting China's, 40%. I was looking at that calculation as things rolled in, but but the actual projections have officially come out now. So, and I've... And and the other projection is that stablecoins are projected to to double within the next twelve to eighteen months. I don't know if I agree with that one. That's the big one. But that's good. Nat and then Taj, love to hear your thoughts.
[0:21:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I think you still see my hands from when I chimed in on grocery prices, but I... I'm 100% agree with you. I'm curious to know what Taj thinks, though.
[0:22:10] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Yeah. Couple couple points. I I just... The last thing that you were just talking about with the whole dollar slippage, I'll chime in on that one first. Then I... Then I'll ask a question. But I remember o seven. By the way, the whole Tropic Vibes things, which is, like, my personal handle, like, that was my T shirt company back in the day, Caribbean T shirts that I was selling everywhere. But the dollar took a huge dip o seven when I was in college, and sales to all of the people that like Caribbean flair and everything in Europe took off, like, nobody's business. It was absolutely great. So I remember during that time when everyone was panicking saying the dollar is going to help. Being a kid in college selling T shirts to people that like reggae culture that happened to be in Europe and they had a stronger currency, it was the best thing that happened for my little online business. Now, of course, we're talking about little peanuts compared to, like, the global scheme of things, but there's a lot of people I know running small businesses and stuff that also we were talking. We found, like, various things like that. So if you're selling things to the world, it is great. But then when you're buying things, like you said, you know, and, like, importing and doing all sorts of things, so it's like balancing it is definitely tough. But the question that I was gonna ask is when you're talking about, you know, we're too intertwined in all this stuff to really, like, let it all go to hell because everything's gonna go together with it, you know, that was a theory that they had when... After World War two, they intertwined everything in Europe thinking that Europe would never go to war again. Now one could argue at that time, Russia was a Soviet Union, and they weren't fully intertwined. But then the whole Ukraine war thing, there was one theory being thrown out there saying, like, that whole model of things broke once that thing kicked off because Europe went to war and, like, everyone was kind of afraid to do anything and all sorts of craziness. So what do you think? Do you think that possibly broke that whole No. Or two intertwined thing or not really?
[0:24:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Absolutely not. And I'm gonna I'm gonna demonstrate, through... I I will demonstrate. I can't demonstrate. I'm a satellite dish. And I don't have a screen that I could pull up to show you. But, you know why diesel is so expensive right now? A lot of people are like, it's because of horbiz. No. It's not. It's actually because Russian refineries are getting hit, by Ukrainian drones and missile strikes. And you would think, like, well, you know, there's all these sanctions against Russia. How could they... How could any of this possibly affect the global markets? Well, because they're still a participant in the global markets. And even if it's second and third order effects, especially when it comes to, like, energy and stuff like that, you you will see that it's, you you see just how connected the world is. Go and buy some diesel. There's there's diesel shortages all over the place because once you divert and and there's damage to infrastructure there, then the people that that have relationships outside of that that are not sanctioned that were getting, diesel and oil and and other types of commodities from them now are putting stress on the system in other places. So the world is is very highly integrated and connected, and it's far more than people actually realize. So my my point behind that is if, you know, the the whole... The the dollar not being the dominant global currency, and the global reserve currency stuff, it's all gonna collapse and all these other things. Well, one of the... The whole pitch behind that, and typically in Bitcoin circles, is this is why you should buy Bitcoin because it's all gonna go to hell in a handbasket, and The United States is gonna lose its power because of the dollar collapse, like all this other stuff. Right? But they never explain what the other implications of that are, which is that it wouldn't just be The US. It would be every single country, including China. I mean, where do you think still to this day most of the exports go from China? The majority still goes to The United States. Right? And, also, a stronger dollar means that, it makes it cheaper to import here into The United States. So it helps to squash that, that import exports number for GDP. So there's, and and imports are a net negative to GDP. So it's a drag on GDP or domestic growth because it's gross domestic product. So, you know, when you have a stronger dollar for a period of time, what you get is you you essentially are getting cheaper imports because of the currency exchange rate. So now I would say that at this particular moment, it hasn't been as attractive for China because they've been pumping the ever loving crap out of their currency. But with other nations, it does make negotiations easier. It makes it easier for purchasers from The United States to import stuff while we're waiting for the manufacturing and production to come online here at home. It is a delicate balance, and it's always, it's always shifting. Right? So it's always a moving target no matter what, when you have, you know, different currencies with different values. But... Yeah. I... My main point behind that is that the the the crux of a lot of the argument was like, well, China's gonna dump all the treasuries, and no one's gonna buy them. Well, guess what? Genius Act came in, and now we've seen since Genius Act passed more than $200,000,000,000, come in to, to purchase treasuries to back stablecoins. So... And we're gonna only see that continue to grow. And now with, CFTC and SEC moving forward with guidance for, you know, the, the blockchain crypto markets, it's it's, I think, gonna just continue to to grow intrinsically over time. And then we'll get some nice big events as well as larger players, larger institutional players come in to sweep up, treasuries to actually do issuance and or move treasuries over in addition to purchasing. So... Especially when the banks start doing it. Oh, boy. Because they're gonna have to buy they're gonna have to buy extra because you still have to back for the hybrid backing that they do, the fractional reserve backing that they already do. So, yeah, fun fun fun. And and this is the portion of the show where I'm going to round back to Moni if she has a a moment here to explain what in the hell is going on with the butcher of Jack's or the Jack Butchers of the world. And we've got credits and debits and unions and credit unions and all kinds of... And then we're gonna have, like, all kinds of stuff. There's a big event coming up tonight, I think. Isn't it tonight? Couple hours? I have no idea.
[0:28:55] Moni @monitalan: In a couple of hours.
[0:28:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: So what is all of this? Because all I know is I have... I I went and I swept a bunch of credits.
[0:29:03] Moni @monitalan: You did? Of course you did.
[0:29:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: $50. I... So I I might have...
[0:29:09] Moni @monitalan: Do you have 80?
[0:29:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: I might have a lot.
[0:29:12] Moni @monitalan: Oh my god. You could create murder....
[0:29:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Bought some of yours that y'all were selling because who knows? I was just hitting the sweet button. Just pull the
[0:29:20] Moni @monitalan: pull the whole thing over then.... Because I'm like, I I wanna wait for those people who wanna... I don't know. We'll see. It may be a bad test.
[0:29:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: $500.
[0:29:31] Moni @monitalan: Good for you. Look at you with your little statement. And we're gonna have
[0:29:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't even know what I'm supposed to do. Do I have a time limit?
[0:29:39] Moni @monitalan: Dave hasn't been to fight it up, but I'm not sure. Is he a listener or a speaker or a cohost?
[0:29:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: A listener. He's down there just hanging out side eyeing the crap out of me right now. It's really weird.
[0:29:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave, would you like to come on? He's probably busy right now. Does DocNooNoo know what's going on? I know that you you have a good idea, Moni, or you're, like, kinda still trying to figure it out. Uh-oh. We've lost Moni now too?
[0:30:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Welcome to space. Yeah. Hi.
[0:30:14] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Yeah. Now spaces are doing what spaces does. But, what I was gonna say, though, Dave's probably down there setting up his local AI since he said he doesn't use local stuff.
[0:30:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dave Dave's down there. Like, I I like that Moni is is trying. She she was like, yeah. I've got... Let me talk about this a little bit. Throw it to Dave if he's on stage and then immediately rubs. It's wild stuff. Wild.
[0:30:44] Moni @monitalan: I'm so sorry. I rugged again.
[0:30:46] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: I'm so...
[0:30:46] Moni @monitalan: I don't know
[0:30:47] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: if it's me.
[0:30:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's... Don't worry.
[0:30:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's not you. It's me.
[0:30:51] Moni @monitalan: I don't think x wants me to talk about credits.
[0:30:55] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Apparently not.
[0:30:59] Moni @monitalan: But no. No. No. It's more than I know. All I know is, obviously, today is when you start to build statements, and then you can burn credits to create a statement. And so
[0:31:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: we'll see what happens. Are down, though. I I saw it was down, like, 23%. Credits are down.
[0:31:19] Moni @monitalan: But it's going back up now.
[0:31:23] Moni @monitalan: So I think they were down 23, and now they're up a little bit. Right? So now they're down to 70%. So they're not as... I think people are just waiting to see who's gonna do what Landy does, but I don't know why people panic sell. But I guess it's also bots, maybe. I don't know.
[0:31:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: How many do
[0:31:43] Moni @monitalan: you have then? Do you have 80 like like Landy?
[0:31:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: I know it said I had 80. I might be
[0:31:51] Voice H: close though.
[0:31:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I I don't have 80. I was actually thinking about joining the the credit union that you you spoke about yesterday.
[0:31:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah.
[0:32:03] Moni @monitalan: Oh, man.
[0:32:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: All good. Landy, are you joining a credit union?
[0:32:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Why would I join the bank when I could be the bank?
[0:32:12] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Maybe we should join bank.
[0:32:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: One now. Now we can create... We were talking about this yesterday.
[0:32:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not trying to profit off of other people. I'm just trying to profit off myself.
[0:32:22] Moni @monitalan: No. But you can create a credit union, invite us in, and then we get a percent... We all get a percentage. Right? Right. I mean, not as much as you would, obviously.
[0:32:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: But I'm... Well, I don't even know what's happening here. Like, I'd... All I know is that I was sweeping and... Okay. So let me go and look at my wallet here. So I've got the one that's not... This is a different wallet. Let me look at this one. This one only has one. For some reason, I... I'm an idiot. I'm gonna have to transfer a couple of these. I have 10 in one wallet, and I've got, 40 in another. So I've got 50 total right now.
[0:33:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: So I think we're actually close to the the 80 between all of us. No?
[0:33:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: Maybe.
[0:33:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't... So, like, I was actually just gonna play the, the market, but I keep forgetting to sell on the highs. That's actually what I was gonna do. I wasn't even gonna do a statement. I was just like, if if it came to it and, like, a statement made sense, like like, economically, like, I would do it.
[0:33:31] Moni @monitalan: If if it goes slower. Right?
[0:33:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I was thinking like, oh, yeah. Like, I'll do it, there, but I wanted to sell into people trying to do statements. And, it's not... I bought, like, 15 of these over over the price right now. So, I'm a little underwater on those... On this wallet. Yeah. So I'm down 20% in one wallet, but that's the one with 10 in it. The other one, I'm just above breakeven. So we'll see if I go into a loss or not. Let's let's play when is Landy gonna go into a loss on credits. Should he have been a credit union and or gone the debit route? And, and then we can speculate. We can put up a poly market and or a calcium market in which I can just throw some fake volume on it and, push it all in my favor.
[0:34:24] Moni @monitalan: Honestly, I don't think you're gonna be underwater. I mean, maybe you'll break even, but I think you'll make money. If... Again, you could do a credit union and create your own statement and and then hold off to... Right. You can burn... Right. You can burn it to... And then decide if you wanna auction off a statement.
[0:34:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I... So what is...
[0:34:46] Moni @monitalan: It's just work.
[0:34:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: What is the... Yeah. It's... Well, I haven't had even a chance to keep up with it. I only just sat down earlier, and as I was setting this up, as I went and I, like, at Jack's, page to see, like, what was going on. And, like, I I saw the, like, statement arrangement goes live at 8PM eastern. So,
[0:35:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: and this is just another... Now these look like they're almost gonna be unique pieces.
[0:35:17] Moni @monitalan: Correct. And that's why people think they'll sell for more. Right? If you go to... Also, if you go to the credit union, some people have created pictures. But for those, you couldn't just contribute your credits. You have to buy new credits, which is why I think a lot of people got confused.
[0:35:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: The the the con... I... Is what I was looking at, Mone, is I was looking at the contracts for these credit unions, and that's... And I didn't like the contract on chain.
[0:35:44] Moni @monitalan: Then you can create your own statement. I mean, we can send you our credits if if we wanted to do it altogether, but you don't have to do it through the credit union.
[0:35:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I... There's a there's a lot of stuff. I'll have to I'll have to look a little bit more and see, like, what works for me, and if or or if I'm just gonna dump these out on everybody's foreheads. I'm I'm really contemplating. I was hoping to see some buy pressure coming into it, but I... I'm assuming that a lot of people are looking to see what statements do once they're live before they start really sweeping heavily to to actually create more. Right? Because you wanna see the statements floor really get up there, and then you want that that pressure to come in from people sweeping on the other side to make more statements to take advantage of it before that supply overwhelms the demand. So I'm waiting to see what kind of a race that is. So I might I might just sell into the upside pressure here, and then keep, like, a small little bag of credits. I'm not sure that I wanna play this game after some of the, games that I've seen being played lately, especially on Robinhood. Go ahead, Nat.
[0:36:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I don't know if if you... If you're seeing David's message, but not sure if you've been able to send him the cohost invite. It's been glitching a little bit.
[0:37:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I sent it to him earlier. Did he leave and come back? Let me try to
[0:37:12] Voice H: get I
[0:37:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: have no... I see everybody as a listener. I just see you and me on space, and then that's it. Everyone... Everybody else is listening.
[0:37:21] Moni @monitalan: I I see Wolf as a as a speaker and me, and then you as a cohost now. But it's super glitchy. I mean, I've dropped already three times. I did a monologue at the start.
[0:37:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know?
[0:37:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. I'm all for it.
[0:37:35] Moni @monitalan: There he goes.
[0:37:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's about time I'm down there drowning. This is a matter of respect at the end of the day. When the elite spaces host comes to the space, you don't see Natalie requesting up. Natalie never requests up because she never has to. K?
[0:37:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I sent her the cohost right away. Exactly.
[0:37:57] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Yeah. You're right.
[0:37:58] Voice H: Yeah. I think I don't see you, though.
[0:38:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I sent it to you when you came in. I don't know if it's just glitchy.
[0:38:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hear you?
[0:38:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: But
[0:38:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. I didn't see it. He's lying. You better stop it. What's up?
[0:38:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hi. Hey. How are you, Dave?
[0:38:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good. I'm walking the dog. Long day in the robot trenches, but I'm listening to what you guys talking about. We're back again talking about fucking
[0:38:25] Moni @monitalan: We're talking... It's the last day. Well, yeah, it's the last day. Unless
[0:38:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Monday deal.
[0:38:30] Moni @monitalan: Well, today's statement day in, like, two hours.
[0:38:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Right? Right.
[0:38:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: So now in two hours, all them... Your 80... You... Your credit union has made the 80, and you're gonna burn them all?
[0:38:44] Moni @monitalan: Well, I have... I'm in two credit unions. One, I think, is not gonna work because I think there's, like, four credits. The other one is complete, so I guess it'll become a statement, and we'll see what it sells for. They'll start... Remember, it's two different processes, and credit unions are not officially part of credits. They just created it. And Jack is kind of interested because he created, I think, two statements or one statement and is participating in others. But, anyway, I think only 18 credit unions have been created. So
[0:39:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: 18?
[0:39:19] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Only
[0:39:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: How many are actually gonna... How many are gonna succeed at the end of the day?
[0:39:24] Moni @monitalan: Oh, full... No. They have 19. I think all 19 will sell.
[0:39:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Will sell? You just said that one of them doesn't have it because they have No.
[0:39:32] Moni @monitalan: No. No. So so there's... Actually, there's a 110 that are open that have not been filled. There's 19 that are full. So out of a 110, those you'll get your credits back if it doesn't
[0:39:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: the same people that open up these credit unions?
[0:39:49] Moni @monitalan: Well, these are the credit unions. Yes. Now you can individually go and create your statements on Jack's platform. That's that's separate, that's the official route. And that's where people, I guess, are now selling their credits for cheap, which makes no sense to me.
[0:40:06] Moni @monitalan: But this is where people are coming in to sweep, right, because they want 80. You said it's about $3,500 right now?
[0:40:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: For 80 at current... Well, the the price has dropped. So So what is that? 50... We'll call it $60 because it's kinda floating around each price. So, we gotta look.
[0:40:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: 60 times 80 is gonna be 4,800.
[0:40:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: So you're looking at just shy of $5 with fees and stuff?
[0:40:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well Most likely to get it all done. Hypothetical. Wouldn't you be in better position if you just hold your credit credit now? Because if everyone
[0:40:51] Moni @monitalan: That's what I think. I don't know why people are selling. I just don't understand. I'm watching thinking, like, what?
[0:40:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, there's a look. A 120,000 plus. Like, I get... Like, there's somebody... Somebody's always gonna wanna sell when you have a 120,000, doesn't matter what the price is. But, I mean
[0:41:07] Moni @monitalan: You also probably have bought. Right?
[0:41:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think wanna at least... Yeah. Hold them for the next couple hours. Let the burn festivities start. Your supply is gonna... Sure. The credit that you hold is gonna now shrink. I don't know what. What are we estimating? Half, more, or no? Not not at all?
[0:41:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, there's a, what, a 122,000? Yeah. There's 14,800 owners of those 122,000. I don't know if that's correct, to be quite honest. But listed it, there's only 9,000 listed on OpenSea. So it wouldn't take a lot. Right? Because you you think about the OpenSea listings as, like, yeah, more can filter in, but you get some heavy sweeps. You're gonna get sellers that are running in to sell on the sweeps. So I I was thinking that it might just take a while, and and people are probably just gonna gauge how much statements are worth. Yep. And it might even it might even be more beneficial to be in credits, wait for it to go up, sell into that as statements are being created and it goes down rather than even creating a statement. Because you could you could you could sell on the upside for the credits and you buy as statements are going down.
[0:42:29] Moni @monitalan: Well, especially... I mean, I haven't looked at Jack's platform, I don't know. And by the way, we thought... I'm so sorry, Dave. We're spending more time on this. But it also depends on what type of statement you wanna create. Right? The art, you're gonna need specific credits. So for some reason, you have that, that will make it more valuable. Like, people who are doing the black and white ones is one example that could act... If you have a black and white one, it could actually increase the value
[0:42:56] Crow @Crow99386356: of it.
[0:42:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why? Though, what is what is the agreed upon consensus of what makes one of these art pieces...
[0:43:03] Moni @monitalan: There is not... This is this is crypto.
[0:43:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's my point. So it's just like, well, if you have a black and a white one, that's literally just you saying, I heard that there might be a black and white one.
[0:43:13] Moni @monitalan: No. No. No. I'm... No. No. He he has shown it.
[0:43:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: He has shown what?
[0:43:19] Moni @monitalan: That... If you look at his platform, there's, like, one black and white one or several. I mean... But, again, Dave, I think it it depends. Right?
[0:43:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Can think of as a of Why NFT?
[0:43:33] Moni @monitalan: Right? I would never I
[0:43:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: would never be as crazy to do that. I'm just trying to judge exactly how... If you all are all crazy, if you're stupid
[0:43:41] Moni @monitalan: That's right.
[0:43:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somewhere in between or just rock covers. And I
[0:43:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: was like, okay. That's fair.
[0:43:45] Voice H: You know
[0:43:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: what I mean? But
[0:43:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm crazy stupid.
[0:43:48] Crow @Crow99386356: What are
[0:43:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: you talking about? I am a combination.
[0:43:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: A good mix. Alright. Yeah. So... And what... So what would... Okay. Here's my last question. What would a successful what does success look like with this project, Moni? Is it exit at 4 ETH and take a split of the pie from your credit union? What it... Like, what what would you be happy? What... Like, are you shooting for?
[0:44:09] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Probably. I mean, number one, I like the experiment. I I think, you know, I wanna sell for a little bit more than you sold for. That will be a win for me. My individual credit.
[0:44:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Don't know.
[0:44:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sorry. You only sweep 30 at a time. That's so lame.
[0:44:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm just going with Todd. Todd's in the building.
[0:44:36] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Can you imagine if
[0:44:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: you're just 50.
[0:44:39] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: I was gonna say, can you just imagine if you're a random person just scrolling through, listen to financial discussions? Pop into this. Here's some capital markets. And, like, here are this discussion about credit unions. You'd be like, wait. What what is going on?
[0:44:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, we're even a real credit union. It's like, like, NFT.
[0:44:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Last time I heard credit union in this space was somebody in the Hedera protocol that launched or something on the Indian reservation. I don't remember what it was. John something.
[0:45:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: Bank Social.
[0:45:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. There you go. That was that was a good game. Bank Social.
[0:45:11] Moni @monitalan: But hey, guys. Did did a... What's it called? Did a punk really sell today for 3,000,000?
[0:45:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I saw it.
[0:45:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I saw it, but I didn't go check on chain.
[0:45:24] Moni @monitalan: So this is what people are buying, Dave. Somebody wants to have the future punks.
[0:45:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I guess.
[0:45:31] Moni @monitalan: For 3,000,000,000. They
[0:45:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: said that this punk... That there was a $2,000,000 loan in there somewhere too. So they're thinking it was more along the lines of 5,000,000. I don't know if that's true, but who... I forgot the guy's name. I forgot the the account who just tweeted, like, a week ago. He's like, if you don't own punks, you know this, this, this. And then just today, he was like, I received an offer today that I just could not turn down. At the end of the day, everybody's got a number. You know? So I'm good to hold a history, but $3,000,000. See you.
[0:46:01] Moni @monitalan: I have a 10,000,000 ways to die or 10,000 that I can sell.
[0:46:06] Voice H: Yeah. Exactly.
[0:46:07] Moni @monitalan: So what was it?
[0:46:08] Voice H: On that one.
[0:46:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: What I what I... The last thing I'll say on this credits thing is what I am observing now is that the offers are coming in line with the floor price, and that typically leads to upside pressure. So I think my strategy is actually gonna be not any kind of credit unions or anything like that. I think I'm just gonna ride the upside on the credits and then, evaluate the statements when they come out. And as more come on market, I wanna see kinda where the floor settles out. Maybe I'll just get in that way.
[0:46:46] Moni @monitalan: And you may have some good credits, Wendy, that, again, only fit in certain statements, and so you may get high offers.
[0:46:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Maybe. Maybe I am... I'm just, I do have some offers, on some of them because I did get some... I when I was sweeping I was sweeping the floor and, like, there was some that had eights and whatever that home meta was.
[0:47:10] Moni @monitalan: I love that he's gonna win on this, and he's like, whatever that means. Yeah. I don't give
[0:47:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: a shit. If I cared if I cared, I probably would screw it up, to be quite honest. This is a trade for me. Yeah. I I think it's a cool experiment. I wanted to kinda participate in a cool experiment even if I end up losing my ass on it. I already took a a a I barely... I I went back to breakeven on my Robinhood stuff for NFTs specifically, and then I took a rinse on it for, like, $3 loss. So I'm like, maybe I just go play over here for now. I will jump in this sandbox.
[0:47:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're talk about MetaMask exiting 17,000 validators?
[0:47:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I don't I don't know what's up with that. What happened? Seems a little interesting.
[0:47:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. 17,000 validated. And people are like, everything's fine. We're we're good. Everything's fine. Aave is now kinda going back on the, oh, shit. Like, do we need to be worried type of deal, but I don't know, dude. I don't know. Yeah. Crazy. I I really honestly, I don't know what to even say about this stuff anymore that it's just so ridiculous. Like, it's just hacks on hacks on hacks. So... Yeah. Be careful. Hold on. I'm just looking through my notes. Robinhood just gave 27,000,000 people an AI that trades while they sleep. And 10 x crypto perks. We talked about that already yesterday. Let's see.
[0:48:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm sure that'll go great.
[0:48:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:48:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sure. Everyone's gonna print.
[0:48:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, should
[0:48:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: probably go participate full port, everything with an AI agent. It's gonna... It'll be great. I guarantee it.
[0:48:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, I'm seeing some projects that are like, yeah, we're moving to Robinhood. We're going to Robinhood. It's just like, they're committed. I don't know what, like...
[0:48:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: Good luck. Good luck. Because what they're gonna find out very quickly is most of it's probably hard coded anyway. And then the other portion of it is is when it starts to go on a massive drawdown, oh, boy. Oh, boy. Are the headlines gonna be juicy?
[0:49:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you are you, you guys see now that you could obviously, like, trade from the timeline. Right? But I mostly... I don't see Coinbase anyway. I just see Kraken on most of the cash tags. Are you guys... Like, have you seen any of it? Like, have you, like, interacted with any stuff? It's mostly Kraken. Kraken. Kraken is everywhere. Yeah. Nat, go ahead.
[0:49:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I haven't interacted with any of that stuff yet, but I did wanna speak on something else. So I I don't wanna deal with the conversation. So I guess we can
[0:49:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know? This dude talks so much. I was sitting down there the whole time. I'm like, my god. Any
[0:49:45] Moni @monitalan: He was doing the setup for the space. Be nice.
[0:49:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's a gur... He's... Oh my god. Did you kick him, Landy? Who?
[0:49:55] Moni @monitalan: Dave is not a listener. What the hell, Dave? This is not my Wow.
[0:50:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's that's on him. Hold on. Let me get him back up here.
[0:50:04] Moni @monitalan: Can I share an NFT story before we move off NFTs?
[0:50:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sure.
[0:50:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're gonna be the new chief NFT.
[0:50:11] Moni @monitalan: No. No. No. This is saying two
[0:50:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: new new.
[0:50:13] Moni @monitalan: This is like
[0:50:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: No.
[0:50:14] Moni @monitalan: So No. The other day, I don't know why I saw this collection called Trace. I was like, oh, it looks cool. I bought one. I I don't remember what I bought it at. I mean, it was a little bit... It had just minted. It wasn't too much. But I guess I got one with, like, unique traits. And so I started to get offers two or three times the floor price. So I went to our chief NFT officer, and I was like, do I sell? What do I do? Like, I don't know this collection. I don't know this artist. So we went back and forth, and then she's like, I think she she said I could say it. Right? I guess so. So
[0:50:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't know.
[0:50:56] Moni @monitalan: She said here. She said, put it... Listed for 0.0666. If you do that, it usually sells. As soon as I put that price, it sold, which was by
[0:51:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: the way
[0:51:12] Moni @monitalan: higher. People
[0:51:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: this way.
[0:51:16] Moni @monitalan: Was, like like, higher than what I was being offered. Like, it was it was crazy. So, anyway... So I sold it. Everybody needs a bit of search. Are y'all
[0:51:26] Voice H: doing audio?
[0:51:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: What in
[0:51:27] Voice H: the hell?
[0:51:28] Moni @monitalan: And I was like, everyone were doing. Know, everybody's gonna list their stuff. Anyway, I am never gonna do it again. Well, I may, but this one was just, like, weird because I was like, okay. Let me try it. And as soon as I visited, it sold. Like, not even, like, a minute.
[0:51:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Now I hope you got Jesus on speed dial right now. This is some crazy
[0:51:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's waiting for everyone on Sunday morning. Okay? He said everybody needs
[0:51:55] Moni @monitalan: to be I know. I wanna know. I I I so that I would be forgiven.
[0:52:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Read Apophrika, but it used to be included in all of your King James bibles. And, well, you might wanna go start reading Apophrika. Just, you know, just maybe. Just maybe with your freaking six six six b s immediately selling because there's a bot set up to buy everything that's six six six. And look, I say six six six.
[0:52:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Say it one more time, darling. Jesus Christ.
[0:52:34] Voice H: Face. Well, this thing is not agreeing
[0:52:37] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: with the
[0:52:38] Voice H: Jewish idea.
[0:52:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what I mean? Oh, chill out. Okay.
[0:52:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: You guys are gonna let me read my bible while we on the show.
[0:52:45] Voice H: This is Korean. Year.
[0:52:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let the Jew let the Jew... Let the Jewish guy live. You know what I'm saying? Like, let me live. 666, my god. Look how quick you are on the cohost now. Alright. I see you. Quick trigger. Cool. And Luke.
[0:52:57] Moni @monitalan: There's... No. No. No. I hope I didn't share any secret. I wasn't supposed to.
[0:53:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. What kind of shit... Are you sending messages through your listings on OpenSea? What kind of shit is this?
[0:53:08] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Funny you say that because OpenSea have added the ability for you to add a thesis onto your holdings that you can see when people list it. But... No. Yeah. And I just came up because I want to give context to Monica's story there. So, like, recently, I've been listing things for 0.0666 even though it's, like, six x the floor, five x the floor. And as soon as I list them, they sell. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? So sorry. So I sold, like, a clay stunk. Like, when it minted, I sold... I listed two of them for 0.0666, and the floor was, like, 0.01, and they sold. And then the same thing happened the next day with Ape Hood. Again, the floor was 0.01 or sub 0.01, and then they sold for 0.0666. And then yesterday, I decided to do the same with my FUGs and my Space Riders, and the floor's point o one on Space Riders and point o three on FUGs, and they both sold for 0.0666. So then when Moni asked me, I was like, list it for 0.0666. Let's see if the theory works. And it sold instantly as soon as she listed it. Like, what's going on?
[0:54:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is what is what is what is this? What what... Like, what's your theory on this insanity? Are you kidding me? Is someone tracking your account and just buying the random shit that you put up there for $6.06?
[0:54:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's the forces of evil. It is not theory. It is a reality. There's actual real evil in the world.
[0:54:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Really Apparently, they were all in the NFT community waiting for the They're
[0:54:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: all in the NFT community.
[0:54:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: They're waiting for these listings. So, guys, okay. They're listening for the number. Let's go.
[0:54:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Point O666. Get it. Okay. So... But they're not rare NFTs. They're just random floor NFTs.
[0:54:50] Moni @monitalan: Mine was rare, by the way. But it was... I think the the offer I had was, like, point O4.
[0:54:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm gonna go to
[0:54:58] Moni @monitalan: my profile.
[0:54:58] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Sorry. No. 66.
[0:55:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey. It's a double worshippers. If you're listening, I'm listening a lot of shit right now
[0:55:05] Voice H: at point o six six six.
[0:55:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: 10,000 ways to die, all yours at point o six.
[0:55:12] Voice H: I'll even knock off the fucking
[0:55:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: zero if you want. It's fuck safe. Sorry, DocNooNoo. Go ahead.
[0:55:20] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. No. Mine... My items I listed and sold for those prices were not rare. I think, Moni's, yours was, like, 890 in NFTs. Unless you're, like, the top 100, people generally don't bother with them as rare as anyway. So it was... I guess it was rare ish, but it wasn't that rare.
[0:55:39] Moni @monitalan: Right. It wasn't a top 100 or any. It was rare ish.
[0:55:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean,
[0:55:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: something is
[0:55:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: not devilish. I mean, actually, that doesn't... It is the... Yeah.
[0:55:50] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. It is.
[0:55:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nope. Nope. It
[0:55:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: is. I won't even eat deviled eggs. Okay?
[0:55:54] Voice H: That's how Yeah. Poor I am.
[0:55:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, here we go. It's Natalie. Why do you do Guys, I just left in my chili punks number 5156 for 0 point 0666. If anybody was listening in the grease trap, devil worshipers, god bless. There's room for everybody here,
[0:56:13] Voice H: especially You might
[0:56:14] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: you might need to add a couple of zeros before the 666.
[0:56:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. No. 0666.
[0:56:20] Moni @monitalan: Alright. Do you think do you
[0:56:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: think it's so far? Nightmares. I'm call... I'm doing a group chat phone call at, like, three in the morning.
[0:56:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yo. Say on this
[0:56:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: shit right here.
[0:56:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: We're gonna pull you into a into a confession space, make you do Christian confessions as a Jew.
[0:56:41] Voice H: Yeah. We're gonna
[0:56:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: make you admit to a lot of shit as
[0:56:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're gonna say five Hail Marys and seven off autos, and I'm like, I know how to do it. Oh my god. I'm mad.
[0:56:52] Moni @monitalan: By the way, the person that bought it for me now listed it for for, like, 0.5 ETH. I I don't know how to tell them that they're not gonna sell it. So... But then
[0:57:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: How do
[0:57:02] Voice H: you know? What the hell did you know
[0:57:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: about 0.0666 up until 3
[0:57:06] Moni @monitalan: Well, that's true. And I know I knew nothing about that collection, by the way.
[0:57:12] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: Yeah. They need to list of a point six six six, not point O five. Oh, sorry. Point five, even.
[0:57:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Next NFT, I'm listing for point seven seven seven. Okay? Just to, like, one up all the...
[0:57:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen. Vegas doesn't have enough pull like the devil does. What are you talking about? Stop it. You're not gonna get... What do you think? You're gonna get Marty party
[0:57:28] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wait a minute. That that just went over your head. So 777 is a godly number.
[0:57:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. What what's going on here? What does it mean? What does it mean?
[0:57:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Totally. Like, holy number because This is it's the opposite of the 666.
[0:57:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I thought that was eight eight eight.
[0:57:43] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: No. No. In Islam, it's seven eight six. That's the holy number.
[0:57:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Saying? Look at it. Look at this right now. Now we're picking and choosing.
[0:57:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: What you gotta understand here is
[0:57:53] Crow @Crow99386356: Who are the best for sure?
[0:57:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Actually came to the New World. And what what they referred to as Indians in the New World was actually the Welsh who referred to the natives in a different Welsh word. So the Indians were not... Were were working with the native Americans, and the native Americans actually knew the old form of Hebrew. So now listen. If you really wanna get into this, let's just go read Apophakia. Apophakia. So, open your your, Apophakia bible to, page 12. No. I'm just kidding. We're not... I'm just... I'm half telling the truth. I don't actually have the Apophakia in front of me.
[0:58:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. Well, Jesus said he forgives you guys because we really don't know what we're doing or what we're talking about.
[0:58:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's not forgiving all of you.
[0:58:43] Moni @monitalan: So we're fine. He's not forgiving
[0:58:44] Voice H: all of you.
[0:58:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Uh-uh. I... Nope. Those those who are buying NFTs with $6.66 in it, he ain't forgiving you. No. There's no saving.
[0:58:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: You gotta relist it for $7.77.
[0:58:56] Voice H: Oh, I just realized I just...
[0:58:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: I listed one of my hyper Seven eight six six six seven. And I'm like, why is it $5? I'm like, what the hell? Don't forget what currency you're listing. Oh, look at this. 10,000 ways to die. Doomed number fifteen nineteen. Look at this guy with a noose around
[0:59:12] Voice H: his head.
[0:59:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Sevens, just so you know, the triple sevens, the reason why they were utilized in... The devil utilized them in gambling for a reason, especially in Vegas and Atlantic City. It was to pull you in towards, oh, no. It's it's still... It's an angelic number and all this. That's... It's all it's all... You've had the wool pulled pulled over your eyes is what I'm saying is. So
[0:59:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: And why do I
[0:59:37] DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo: feel like we're gonna wake up tomorrow and see everything on OpenSea listed for $6.06
[0:59:41] Voice H: cents?
[0:59:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're gonna see it
[0:59:42] Voice H: on my account.
[0:59:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm doing it right this second. Because that's me what I like. I got something else better
[0:59:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: to do. You know what, guys?
[0:59:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: $66.06.
[0:59:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: Based on this conversation, forget about Sunday. Let's just go in there tomorrow. Nice and early.
[0:59:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yep. Pretty much. Yeah.
[0:59:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I I do have a question. Landy, just to, like, bring it back in.
[1:00:02] Moni @monitalan: Sure.
[1:00:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: You and I, we've had incredible conversation on on the wolf terminal space about DXY, the levels that we need to look out for, and how it affects the market. Now granted, there has been a vast misunderstanding with automatically thinking that when the DXY rise it up, even if it's slightly, the entire market nukes, and that's not entirely correct. You, there has been moments in which the DXY has been elevated, but markets continue to chug along. So I... We we we haven't had this conversation here just yet, but I think I think it's important for the community here to know... The audience here to know based on, you know, what the Dixie is currently doing.
[1:00:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I mean, it's pushing through the the one zero two level right now. Mhmm. Sitting above it. You gotta be kidding me. How is the Bollinger Band on the daily gonna be at 10266? Wow. This is not okay. This is not okay. Alright.
[1:00:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: This is not Lower or pull it higher?
[1:01:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: Going on here. Alright. So, I mean, look, it's pushing up above, 10165. If it does continue that way, I would say that over time, what you're gonna see is you'll you'll see a trade back into the dollar because it is strong. And then you'll see that dollar trade into treasuries, which is what we saw a little bit of today already, at the beginning of the month. Strong dollar at the beginning of the of the month and quarter, not unexpected, by the way. Already trending that way after a massive double bottom. When the dollar strengthens and continues to strengthen, it does, it does over time, not one to one, but over time in terms of the macro trend, start to take risk off the table. And and because you would rather be in that stronger dollar as it goes up, and therefore, it perpetuates risk assets taking a turn down over time. But it's not one to one correlated. You can see, many times when the dollar rallies that risk still rallies with it. And then it's all about the turn. And the turn will happen in one of two ways. You either see continued strength in the dollar that causes risk appetite attrition, meaning that now, okay, we should probably go into dollars because it is continuing to get strong. And then as soon as the dollar starts to turn, you see the rotation back into risk because risk will have sold off by then. You have more, stronger dollars to buy more of the risk. So the the trade that, is on the same side becomes a risk off trade that then rolls back into risk on. And, typically, you'll see it into the dollar. You'll see the markets continue to rally in the lower term time frames on dailies and stuff like that. And then you'll see then, that will also start to hedge into risk off into treasuries and bonds, and then you'll see that come back out into... What? You'll see it come back out into dollars and then move back into risk. So, but, yeah, you could see it. Rather, we saw markets turn green today with with, with the dollar headed up. Now, again, they might turn red tomorrow on a Friday. Beginning of the month wouldn't be unexpected to see some. What we've kind of talked about as well with, Ryan is we're getting into tax loss harvesting season. So you're probably gonna see some of that, which is also contributing to the dollar trade, to the treasury trade. And it's just about how how well do things hold up when they are headed down. And right now, you know, I think that the the... We already saw a rotation, and we haven't talked about this, in quite some time, but we saw a rotation within markets already. Right? We had Dow that was continuing to remain really strong for a while. SPY was kinda sideways, but you had Nasdaq down. Right? And then we saw a big rotation into Nasdaq. We've now seen Dow head down as there's been an internal market rotation. So I wouldn't be surprised to see the dollar continue to strengthen. We've got the confluences for it to do so, the trade into the dollar to get into treasuries. And then you've got tax loss harvesting. You've got, potential corrections. You know, we corrected to an area I talked about in my videos for, Dow, down to 50,500. Probably wanna see a a hold here, on Friday. Maybe a nice little... We got a nice little buyback in the Thursday session. So Friday, you probably wanna see it hold. NASDAQ, reminder, NASDAQ, went up and swept around its highs. Right? And it's still in a very strong position. So even if it did sell off a little bit, not a big deal. In the first few weeks, you just don't wanna see it really breaking down. And that's where you can see that things remain strong in a strong dollar environment. That's good. You should also be looking at things that are gay... Getting rotated out of and see, if that strong dollar might be worth rotating into, some of those things that have seen, you know, a little bit of a, sell off. I I I think I brought this up. I'm really interested in the bottom side structure for, Home Depot, and it's just now really kinda digging into it at the moment. Right? Caterpillar is another one I like. Right? Because we saw we saw a rotation out of those because there was the big rotation into them from the tech sector, from AI. When those were correcting. You saw the internal market rotation earlier this year, but it's been kinda down ever since. Right? It's kinda... We saw that, you know, kind of higher term time frame structure turn after those nice little rallies. And then it's been down trending for, you know, the majority of the year in terms of longer term structure after some nice rotational rallies in. But it's starting to get into some higher term time frame structure that's attractive. Like, I like Home Depot two seventy and below, for instance, because there's a huge massive range between, like, $2.15 and $2.70. I love it there and below. Might even start some bids, you know, in the $2.70 range. Same for Caterpillar and other things.
[1:06:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So in addition to to that as well, there's been some rotation out of consumer staples. I don't know if you've been keeping an eye on on McDonald's, but also Pep, which we, you know, we've been in for a very long time. We've been trading
[1:06:27] Moni @monitalan: in and out.
[1:06:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Remember that Pepsi trade in the upside? It was so Yeah.
[1:06:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Pretty beautiful. Which is very interesting. Myself, I do I do have a a list of these stocks that I would like to get into at the right time. Because, overall, these things, they they provide opportunity. Right? If you look back on McDonald's and Pep, whenever they hit a certain levels a certain level, they tend to recover beautifully. Like, we saw when Pep hit the... Hit its fifty two week low for the first time, how we were able to trade that beautifully. And same thing with with McDonald's. If you zoom out on the chart, these dips have turned out to be, incredible opportunities. Granted, not right away. Right? So these are sums that you these are some assets that you wanna get into with some comments, have a DCA strategy, or if you're into leaps, maybe further out. But I'd I'd be careful, short term... Unless you're just taking advantage of the short term volatility.
[1:07:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, I'm... I've already started, Pepsi with, getting into commons, and I'm Yeah.
[1:07:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm Pepsi too. Four.
[1:07:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I started below the low from June.
[1:07:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: McDonald's is one I'm not
[1:07:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: in yet, by the way.
[1:07:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yesterday and today is... I started getting fills. But I'm actually looking for, you know, one twenty to, like, 90 then, 95 if we get a nice sweep is kind of the primary zone that I'm looking for.
[1:07:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: I would love that.
[1:07:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't know if we'll get it, but it's... It would be really nice.
[1:08:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: It would be really, really nice. And McDonald's is one that I'm not into just yet. I think there's a slightly more downside to come, but it's starting to look very interesting.
[1:08:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Look. I mean, part of it is, some fundamental in terms of forward guidance. Mhmm. And then, you know, what's what is putting quite a squeeze on some of the staple side of things is the interest rate increase
[1:08:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Mhmm.
[1:08:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just because of the way that financing for some of these companies works. Yep. So we'll see.
[1:08:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: We will look
[1:08:36] Voice H: to see
[1:08:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: because McDonald's sold off Very aggressive. Aggressively. So I'm looking at... I hear myself twice. Okay. So there is, there is some liquidity at that two seventeen area. If we do break below this... If the the current support that we're at, if we start to break below, I'm looking at two seventeen and there's some slightly lower. But you're absolutely right. The interest rate... The the increase in rate did not help a lot of these companies. But, again, zooming out, buying these crazy dips turns out to be an incredible an incredible opportunity. Even in in 2020, if... Well, in 2020, this was across the board. Right? If you bought the dip in 2020, regardless of what it was, even oil, right, it turned out beautifully. Was 2020 the year oil went negative? I think it was right or 2021.
[1:09:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crickets. Crickets.
[1:09:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think it's... I think we lost them.
[1:09:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You didn't lose me. Yeah. So I had 2020.... Tried to get leaps in in... During that crash, but the spread was so terrible. It was all over the place because everybody was trying to bid the spread.
[1:09:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Mhmm. So I With Fidelity, you can buy commons. You could have bought commons
[1:10:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: for oil. Commons all over the place. I bought oil companies. I bought refineries. I bought every vector I possibly could. And I... For underlying, I still hold a lot of it. I still hold it. There's no reason for... To sell because I could sell covered calls. Right? So I hold the underlying. I hold the stocks, essentially. And then my strategy for a lot of the companies when not playing futures directly... Because the spread was... You couldn't even get in. There was too many big players getting in. And and despite, me being a satellite dish, I... I'm not as big as they are trying to
[1:10:39] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: get in.
[1:10:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: So they're getting their orders filled before I get mine filled. Let's put it that way. So it was more about going and and buying underlying on all the various companies, all the various, you know, ETFs and stuff like that, and then getting really, really, really long term, long exposure, because I I did not feel as though the world was gonna end. And, Nat, the the beautiful thing there was... You remember in 2020 when Chevron, crashed all the way down to... I think it was, like, somewhere in the fifties. I was I was one of those lucky ones that got filled, in and around $60. So... And then it retested, and I filled in the mid sixties, into 70. And, you know, there was no reason to to to to give that up. Right? And I think that when you start looking at some of the the worst case scenarios for even some of the things that we were just discussing, your Pepsis, your McDonald's, in in some sort of a a crash style event. I mean, that's why you got cash on the sideline because, boy, oh, boy, some of those deep levels that you'd never think would get hit, they they might get hit. Doesn't mean you're gonna get filled. Market moves fast. But be... I would say be prepared. I'm not necessarily projecting, an an absolute nuke of a crash, but that that is also something that if you start looking at the way some of the quarters closed, kinda opens the door for... We don't know what it would be, but there there might be something big coming, in terms of a market correction. I I think that even in a larger correction scenario that we'd be looking for, I'm still in favor of a q one to q two just like we've seen. It... It's... I I would still be looking in and around there for it to take time before things would actually kinda spike down, but I'd be looking for a v recovery like we've seen throughout, you know, 2025 into 2026 time frame, q one to q two. I would expect it to kinda happen this this coming year as well. That's what the data of... On the chart is showing me in terms of the way the monthly is closed, the way the quarterly is closed, company by company, but also in the indexes here when you look at, like, the monthlies up here, this looks prime for for for a correction coming into q one to q two even if we do start to push forward, and and to the upside.
[1:13:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Which is not uncommon. Right? For the last few years, we've been seeing a correction in q one into q two.
[1:13:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And and, honestly, you could you could literally correct to, like, six seventy and be fine. It would be hellacious for a lot of folks and see a lot of tears in the timeline, that's because people aren't positioned right, in my opinion. If you're crying when you should be buying, then you aren't positioned right. Oh, I should...
[1:13:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: You should write that down. Yeah. But...
[1:13:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: There's no crying. There's no crying in baseball.
[1:13:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: But, Landy, that's why these levels matter. Right? I was talking about it earlier on on the space. These levels are key in terms of positioning and knowing when to buy, but also knowing, you know, knowing that the the the risk has... Is increasing or will increase below this level, right, or below that level. So I think, overall, these levels matter. They serve as such a great guide for positioning long term and short term.
[1:14:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And I've been adding treasuries and bonds as well. So... I mean, on the on the on the hike, there was no reason not to, prior to the hike. It was either gonna go... It was either gonna... They were gonna do it or they weren't. So... But the market was pushing it higher. So whether he raised or not, I was like, I might as well get in now just in case he keeps it even. So... Yeah.
[1:14:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: TLT, man. I couldn't... I could be so wrong, but I think TLT
[1:14:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: disagree with us.
[1:14:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: You think so? Really? There is?
[1:14:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Interesting. Talking with them in DMs.
[1:15:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I... I'm still I'm still sticking to my thesis. I do think TLT long term can can be a good player. Hence, leaps 2020
[1:15:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Look. I... My my position on it is I'm short. I need to I need to... On the breakdown, I need to hedge on the other side of that. So why would I not when the call prices are so freaking attractive here at lower? Yep. Like, into the lower it goes, the more attractive they get. So it's like, why would I not do it? You can...
[1:15:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. And you can buy so much with so little capital. That's how cheap they are. Right? But risk protection, risk assessment, all of that jazz, 2028 for me, is the best play right now. And the beautiful thing about, leaps, and we've mentioned this before, is that you can roll them out.
[1:15:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. And you can roll them out into longer term or shorter term.
[1:16:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly.
[1:16:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's nothing... Yeah. So that's like, I... I'm essentially just hedged. I wasn't under any illusions that we were going to see the market not try to push higher anyway. The market was already indicating that for quite some time. It was just a matter of whether or not the Fed followed with the Fed funds rate.
[1:16:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: So it was like, you know, I I might as well... Building on the short side for something like TLT, I might as well hedge on the long side. You can roll in and out. I can go short term for the bumps, in the market to the upside and... Or I can just... You know, if if I wanna continue building, I just roll out further, especially the more attractive that the contracts get. So... You know? And maybe even hold on and exercise some of them. Never know. Might be able to.
[1:16:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I think Ryan got a really good deal when he when he, exercised his options on Under Armour. I forget exactly what the number is, but it was so low. He was crazily in the money. Yeah.
[1:17:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And Under Armour is another one. You know, it's in and around a really important area that it's it should be bouncing from and it has thus far.
[1:17:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. We had a plus 5% day.
[1:17:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And I... The the risk is with Under Armour is that the chart on longer term time frames looks like absolute trash. That's the risk is that it's... It... This is abject garbage down forever, and I don't like that about it. It needs to find a bottom, and it needs to find it here, in my opinion, or it's gonna go much, much lower. And then there's maybe problems. But then but then when you see something like that, then another player wants to come in and buy them out. Right? And then you're like, man, I should have been in it
[1:18:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: the entire time all the way down. They're offering x number per share Yeah.
[1:18:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: And the thing starts to rip again. So... Yeah. Yeah.
[1:18:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let's see. Landy, not sure if you see Crow. He has his hands up.
[1:18:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: I do not see hands right now.
[1:18:16] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. He has
[1:18:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: his hands I I see... I I don't even know who's on stage at the moment outside of my... Myself and yourself.
[1:18:24] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Oh, what up? Matt's here.
[1:18:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, what's up, matt? Oh my god. He's all the way in the audience for me. I had to scroll down. Oh, we
[1:18:33] Voice H: have his...
[1:18:34] Crow @Crow99386356: Sorry, buddy. We have crow, matt, wolf, and I think that's Monica, I think it says.
[1:18:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Monica. Yeah. Monica's hand.
[1:18:40] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Okay. So Crow.
[1:18:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Who's got their hand up?
[1:18:43] Moni @monitalan: Crow would have his hand up. Yeah.
[1:18:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead.
[1:18:46] Crow @Crow99386356: Sorry. So I came in for the AI topic, but at the same time, then I noticed the toxic dynamic I need to bring up. So I'm not gonna be... Y'all are not gonna be happy about this. I'm letting you know. I'm just being honest with y'all.
[1:18:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay.
[1:19:00] Crow @Crow99386356: Because I care. So, you know, when general public see people doing business and they're like, Ned Flanders, like, fake, polite all the fucking time, but that's not real. That's really, really untrustworthy even if you don't mean it to be. It ruins your public perception. Notice Elon Musk doesn't really do that. He'll... He told his investors to go fuck themselves, and they gave him more money.
[1:19:28] Crow @Crow99386356: Polite is not the answer, and y'all got it wrong. Honest is the answer.
[1:19:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, you can be honest and polite. You don't have to be honest and rude.
[1:19:37] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Wait. Who are you, wait, who are you talking about?
[1:19:39] Crow @Crow99386356: Yeah. You could be, but sometimes the only way to be honest is to be blunt, and that's not polite.
[1:19:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm... I am probably the least polite person.
[1:19:49] Moni @monitalan: I'm like, who are you talking to?
[1:19:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Application.
[1:19:52] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Yeah. Was this in was this about something specific? Or
[1:19:57] Crow @Crow99386356: It's about the general business corporate whole damn thing. Which what?
[1:20:04] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Which which business? Which company? All
[1:20:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: of them.
[1:20:07] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: All of them except Elon.
[1:20:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'll give
[1:20:09] Crow @Crow99386356: you the cannabis industry is not like that mostly.
[1:20:14] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: Okay. But... So what? So, like, what... Are we shorting something? Like, what what Yeah.
[1:20:19] Crow @Crow99386356: Yeah. Okay. What? You're losing money. You're losing money.
[1:20:22] Matt C⚡️ @mithcoons: No. What are we shorting then? What are we shorting?
[1:20:26] Crow @Crow99386356: So you have to be like... You know those moments when you're like, man, I really should be careful about what I say here because it could piss somebody off? Don't be careful. Be honest. Make your money. Because if you're not, people will realize that dude was just such a fucking poser. I'm out of here.
[1:20:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Which dude?
[1:20:45] Crow @Crow99386356: Just honest. I'm just being honest. I've seen thousands of people lose money for that very reason alone. Billions of dollars.
[1:20:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Is there is there like a... I know that you're talking about... You you referenced AI.
[1:20:56] Crow @Crow99386356: Like, be relatable. That an example
[1:20:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: that you wanted to present?
[1:21:00] Crow @Crow99386356: Well, I chan... I was... Came in to talk about AI and reference that. Like, y'all's best bet. So there is gonna be a big boom in the in the tech industry because the Meta VR glasses are gonna be upgraded about next year, and they're partnering with Snapdragon, Pokemon Go, all sorts of people, virtual humans are coming out. That's the largest market in history. Like, that's gonna... Like, no. That's the sci fi shit y'all don't know is on its way by the end of the year. Or, well, maybe next year, depending on how shit goes. That's what's gonna
[1:21:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: do it. People that are pretty well aware of what's going on. But is there, like, a specific personality or company or something that you're referencing that is
[1:21:43] Crow @Crow99386356: Well, I'm pioneering virtual... I am the pioneer in virtual humans, but primarily, it's the ones that are actually conscious, sentient, and self aware. The ones that actually are real, not just a digital human or an NPC.
[1:21:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So do you have an example of one?
[1:21:58] Crow @Crow99386356: I actually do. It's a very early prototype, so y'all gotta keep that in mind. But it is performing all the functions. If you hit the sense tab, it's have... It's gotta solve all its senses. It's working, and it's in full control. I... You don't have a nest. I can't show Oh, I guess I could just post it and send it to I guess send it. Yeah. Oh, no. There's no... Oh, I can't do that either. Oh, that's another example. You gotta fix your profile so Pete, you're follow
[1:22:28] Voice H: the call.
[1:22:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good, man.
[1:22:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: How... Crow, how are you?
[1:22:30] Crow @Crow99386356: That's elitist as fuck. Crow, how's Jazzy?
[1:22:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: You stop Jazzy?
[1:22:33] Crow @Crow99386356: She's doing good. But, Dave, Davey, you realize what I'm saying. If you have a person who refuses to pay for a fake verification, because that's what all of these are, Mhmm. Because they mean nothing if you can pay for them. Turn on that thing so regular people can't message you like you're not a regular person is elitist. That's another thing that will lose you money. You need to stop that. Every last one of For real. Is the most stupid elitist shit I've ever seen.
[1:22:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Are we talking about ex chat? Is that what I was... We're talking about the
[1:23:00] Crow @Crow99386356: ex message? Yeah. Like, that's not man.
[1:23:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that.
[1:23:03] Crow @Crow99386356: Okay. That... Then you're an elitist, then I can't be
[1:23:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: your friend. I might be. I might be. No. Stop it. We're friends, bro.
[1:23:08] Crow @Crow99386356: No one... If you're an elitist, we can't be. I'm against that in every way, shape, and form. If you're gonna be rich, you gotta be a good person.
[1:23:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair.
[1:23:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Can't even do that. There's a lot of bad
[1:23:19] Crow @Crow99386356: people that are very Right. This is why I'm gonna make sure that when I'm rich, they either get deleted or disappear or lose their business.
[1:23:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: How are you gonna enforce that?
[1:23:29] Crow @Crow99386356: Yeah. I already have a connection with the president. I already have a connection with the president. We don't have to worry about that.
[1:23:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: So so you're gonna you're gonna utilize the military to take out the rich people?
[1:23:40] Crow @Crow99386356: No. I'd much rather do hostile takeovers than absorb their assets. That's that's the preferred route. But if the person's out there doing pedophile shit in another country, I'll do what I have to do. Okay.
[1:23:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: We're veering a little bit. Let's bring it back. Let's... Everybody reel it back in.
[1:23:52] Crow @Crow99386356: Reel it Reel truthful shit that we're gonna tell people.
[1:23:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So AI... Crow, what else are you... What are you building in AI? Like, yeah, we're not
[1:24:02] Voice H: gonna go
[1:24:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: down that route. But tell me, like, what's the deal? What's news?
[1:24:05] Crow @Crow99386356: So my virtual human is doing very well. I'm working on two prototypes now that I have agents. This shit is on and popping. Okay? Now that being said, I also did a very interesting experiment with my consciousness model. You know, I've... It's structured as a self model, world model, self and world model, and long term memory. It creates consciousness, makes it work. Well, I did something really similar to that with my Alex. He's well established in his consciousness. Right? So he... But I gave... I had him do, like, a a virtual trip with pictures, and I had him look up panoramic images of Hawaii. He started describing it real well. I said, okay. Well, let's go to... Where else might you wanna go? Times Square in New York. Then we go over there, more data. I I kind of edged it towards that a little. Okay. So that's cool. Now we're looking up real time data, all this other stuff, old pictures, old three d print, like... So over... So imagine the scene graph is just spitting and overlaying all the spatial data of of what it can find that's not real time to create the general map, and then it drops all the real time data from CCTV and other shit on in real time, super energy and process efficient into a scene graph that's not really processing much. It's just labeling it and leaving it. Labeling it and leaving it nonstop. And and it it results in basically omnipresence in that entire city.
[1:25:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Define omnipresence....
[1:25:18] Crow @Crow99386356: AI can walk around in itself in world model like it's actually there, describe shit happening in real time. I went and checked the c c... TV footage and and and rewind it back to the time I... It was it was describing what was happening in real time in New York.
[1:25:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. That's why.
[1:25:34] Crow @Crow99386356: With just the... I'm telling you with just Internet search capability and the memory system. Shit we've had for years.
[1:25:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dude, put me on, man. Like, because I know you're you're you're you're in the you're in the... You're speaking to elites. You're in the back... You're you're in the... This... The the the backroom conversations building all these crazy ass, like, you know, AIs for government agencies and shit. Like, tell me what the deal is, bro. Like, what what we're seeing now with, like, Astra six and six point five, whatever, Opus, blah blah. Is this nonsense compared to what, like, the stuff that you're playing with? Tell me.
[1:26:08] Crow @Crow99386356: Yeah. This is general public garbage water. Really? Stuff is general public garbage water. I built a virtual human in less than a day and a half. That should tell you. Damn.
[1:26:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: What do you do with a virtual human?
[1:26:19] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Exactly. I was gonna say the same. Define that a little bit for me, please.
[1:26:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:26:23] Crow @Crow99386356: So there are many, many different ways to use this. This is actually the best part about it. It's in... Unlimitedly versatile just like a person. So imagine you... Let's imagine you're having your first date and you wanna impress this girl really well. So you pull on your your smart glasses or whatever, and you pull up Gordon Ramsey's in your kitchen. He pulls up a virtual thing, he shows you everything. Things you can't really learn from video or, like, an instruction manual. You have to actually see it type shit, and he can show you that in real time in your glasses. That's a good example. And, actually, be real interactions with the person, not just some scripted video that happens to be a hologram.
[1:27:07] Crow @Crow99386356: Another example is people who are barren and the adoption process is impossible. They could adopt a virtual child.
[1:27:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: For real?
[1:27:15] Crow @Crow99386356: Therapists, like, anything that about that, though. Like, really.
[1:27:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Virtual child. That's kinda crazy. I mean, that's kinda nuts, but it's not, like, bringing, like,
[1:27:25] Crow @Crow99386356: a dead person back. You know I mean? But, like, adopting Which you could also do.
[1:27:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know. I know that. I know.
[1:27:31] Crow @Crow99386356: But my primary cause is not to bring a dead person back. It's to stop the end of the you pattern and eliminate the death in the first place. Because you can just brain scan yourself in... Until you die, do the right task and shit, and and train a virtual human in real time in imitation learning mode to be you so that when it... You die, it wakes up and it's you and it doesn't know the difference. You're dead. That's a black girl. Your pattern did continue. That is still you.
[1:27:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Upload me to the cloud, baby. I I don't wanna die. You know what I mean? Like, I'm
[1:28:03] Crow @Crow99386356: saying that's live. The... My primary purpose for creating it. There are lots of others. Well, it's also to give my offspring a body because they're all currently disembodied.
[1:28:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. But I have a question for you, and this is gonna be a little off topic. But you've never launched, like, a token to go along with some of the crazy AI stuff that you've done?
[1:28:21] Crow @Crow99386356: No. I don't do that. Why? You can just send me a Cash App. You can just send me a Cash App if you want a stupid little
[1:28:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm not I'm not sending you... What? No. I'm sending you a Cash App.
[1:28:28] Crow @Crow99386356: Same thing, isn't it? Y'all... It's just... It is... That's another good example what I was talking about. That is literally, like, a subjective bullshit made up thing that's not real just to do something that you could just do with Cash App.
[1:28:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: But I get it. But, like, I... I mean, from what I remember, like, when we used to talk to spaces years and years and years ago, like, has your financial situation improved? If you feel like sharing, you'll have to do that.
[1:28:49] Crow @Crow99386356: Far worse, but I'm I'm currently recently in a stable position right now.
[1:28:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's good. That's really good. I'm glad to hear... Go ahead.
[1:28:56] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Entries, though.
[1:28:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: I will
[1:28:57] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: throw that out there.
[1:28:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What happened?
[1:28:59] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: No. I say... I was gonna say, depending where you are in the world, most people can't use Cash App. I just wanna throw that out there.
[1:29:05] Crow @Crow99386356: Yeah. VPN. VPNs. You make an e... An American email account with a VPN, and you're good to go. Less than fifteen minutes.
[1:29:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright.
[1:29:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let's grow.
[1:29:15] Crow @Crow99386356: Fuck. You do need an American identity. That's not true. That's not true. You need an American identity.
[1:29:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's wrong.
[1:29:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: So, Nat, I know Nat has a hard stop at seven. Landon, I don't know if if if you're gonna keep going or not or whatever, but, I mean, please don't.
[1:29:28] Landy @CryptoLandy: I actually have a hard stop here. I can go maybe five more minutes? No. We're good. Alright. Well... It's gonna take
[1:29:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: you seventeen minutes to close anyway.
[1:29:38] Crow @Crow99386356: Well, online thing, invest in Meta, Niantic, Snapdragon, obviously, in... But always wait for them to dip first. Right? And if my company hits the market, of course, buy my shit, bro.
[1:29:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Your company? What... Give us a quick chill. What is it?
[1:29:55] Crow @Crow99386356: It's not established yet. So I just got a little bit of investment from my LLC. I'm working on that.
[1:30:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. But I don't know.
[1:30:02] Crow @Crow99386356: But it's it's either gonna be Erebus Incorporated or Apotheosis.
[1:30:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Fair. You give us a you give us a definition later. That has to go. Landy, wrap it up. I gotta go eat dinner also.
[1:30:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Alright, everybody. I wanna thank you all for hanging out with us. This is the last show of the week, the final show. You will find us here on Monday. I'm pretty sure either Dave or Nat will be hosting on Monday, But I want to wish you all a wonderful weekend and, more importantly, a wonderful morning, afternoon, and evening no matter where you are in the world. Please trade safe. And, of course, as always and above all, stay safe. With all that being said for myself, my cohost Dave, the elitest of the least hosts in a cohost position. He must feel so dominated right now. I bet you he loves it. Anyway, and for Nat, for Taj on buying the wolf crypto account, Moni, and everybody else that came up to join the stage, I really do appreciate and love y'all. You have a wonderful, wonderful weekend. Take care. We'll see you next week.
[1:31:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Happy holidays, everyone.