The space opened with light banter before quickly turning into a postmortem on the collapse of Abstract, with multiple speakers expressing disappointment over the project's failure to deliver a meaningful airdrop after years of XP farming, task grinding, and NFT purchases. DocNooNoo @doc_noonoo explained she had flagged Abstract early, citing its lack of unique value proposition compared to existing chains like Solana, poor community treatment, and reliance on hype without substance. Speakers criticized the project's overpromising across gaming, streaming, and DeFi, its centralized streaming approval process, and leadership decisions, while noting many teams that tried to build on it were ultimately abandoned. The conversation broadened to the broader points and airdrop meta, warnings against burning capital on unclear protocols, the importance of due diligence, and where capital is rotating, particularly into nuclear energy stocks. The hosts shared ticker alpha on nuclear power plays driven by Department of Energy loans and big tech deals before closing with humorous stories and reminders that all losses and lessons are part of the cycle. All of this is discussion, not financial advice.
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# RIP Abstract. Energy and Nuclear alpha. AI Convo | 2026-10-06 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1MJgNbQERBkGL | status: approved # Speaker attributions verified via X captions, ECAPA voiceprints, and on-air handoffs where marked confirmed. [0:00:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. Look at you, David. On time. Punctual. [0:00:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you say? That's what it sounded like from the last bit that I got when I [0:00:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: got here. No. I said, look at you on time and punctual. [0:00:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. You like that shit? [0:00:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. [0:00:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: You see that? Nat, I'm literally... And know what? I'm not gonna say it on the space. I'm gonna... Even if it's recorded, I'm the biggest dumbass on the planet trading these, like... What's it called? I haven't been using the leverage this entire time to pass this stupid eval. [0:01:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: What do you mean? So what what have you been doing? [0:01:10] Voice F: I... I've been using [0:01:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: 10 x leverage. Like, not... Like, nothing. And I'm I'm making insane calls, but they're not yielding me. You know? I could I could be done with this thing in in one trade. $252,700 dollars. No problem. But I'm not... I wasn't levering out like crazy. [0:01:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So the whole I'm [0:01:25] Voice J: like, wait a minute. [0:01:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I can occupy more... For some reason, when I first got into the platform, I saw the number on 10 x, and I saw the total dollar volume that you can obviously allocate with that. And I'm like, oh, okay. Whatever. Not not too bad. You know? Whatever it was. 250,000, whatever. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. But I'm like, wait a minute. [0:01:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't don't don't repeat that. Okay? We'll talk [0:01:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: about that. Okay. Okay. And I won't repeat it. Not like it's on a recorded space or anything. [0:01:52] Voice J: No. No. Don't give anybody anything. [0:01:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. I have no idea. [0:01:55] Moni @monitalan: No problem. [0:01:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. Alright. But besides that, you've been good? [0:02:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. You know, chugging along chugging along. Spent the day with my nephew today. He was, he had to get sir... He had to get surgery, last week. And on... Well, long story, without without the details, it's a little bit much, but, he wasn't feeling the best today. So my sister called me. She was like, can you work from my house today and hang out with Ethan? I'm like, for sure. So I went to go spend the day with Ethan. It was really nice. [0:02:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, amazing. Amazing. It's always good spending time with family. [0:02:30] Voice L: For sure. For sure. [0:02:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Cool. How are you? [0:02:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I'm good, man. Can can you hear me? [0:02:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yep. Yep. Got you. [0:02:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Cool. Cool. I'm driving as always. Yeah. Yeah. And I... I'm good. I'm good. I'm just... I'm not mad. I'm just... I just feel... I feel bad. I feel bad for a lot of abstract people. It's... Can you can you imagine... It's it's kinda like you you you... You've been chasing this girl, you know, for two years, buying the flowers, going to dinner, doing all this stuff, and she just text you, say, oh, sorry. I'm done. Don't call me again. That's it. [0:03:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's why you never buy them flowers [0:03:10] Kool @koolcryptovc: for change [0:03:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: in for two years? [0:03:11] Kool @koolcryptovc: This is what it feels like for a lot because I... I've been on abstract, but I've... Luckily, I didn't go crazy, but I know people that spent a lot of money trying to get the the airdrop, and it's just... People bought penguins. People bought penguins, held it. People, you know, bought Pengu, held it, but used fees. It's just it... It's a rough day. I'm not gonna lie to you guys there. But, yeah, I mean, it's crypto, man. It's what it is. So, hopefully, you know, a lot of people too... Didn't get too burnt, but I'm sure they did, though. But abstract really... We we really screwed a lot of people today. [0:03:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: And you know what's very interesting? DocNooNoo actually saw it coming. She made a post about it, like, last year. I don't know if you wanna come up and talk about it, DocNooNoo. Yeah. I'll send you an invite. [0:04:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I I will I will like to hear what what what she what she saw, but I [0:04:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: I That's a great question. [0:04:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's interesting because because I'm like, we... I mean, the market's actually doing better than than... You know? But, I mean, I don't know, man. It's it's it's a weird time. Like I said, I I... Like I said yesterday, but a lot of people are mad right now because, man, people were hopeful they're gonna make a whole bunch of money from the airdrop from from this, but it it sucks. It really does. [0:04:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So we have Nuna Nuna. What did you see? What was the red flag that you saw that kinda made you say, okay. Maybe this is not gonna be as successful as people thought. [0:04:46] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. I'm I'm no expert, and I hate to, like, dance on on a grave kind of thing. But I don't have any sympathy for people who found abstract because it's fuck around and find out. And it's a... They say, no crying in the casino. Right? It didn't play off for them this time. There was just... I just could not understand from before before that chain launched. I was asking. I don't get it. Like, I read the documents. I just could not understand why abstract needed to be a chain or what it offered that other chains didn't already offer. There was nothing different about it. And then people were responding to me saying, oh, Privy Wallet. Sorry. Abstracted Wallet. And I was like, but that's not their infrastructure. That's from Privy, and it's existed for, like, as long as the blockchain has. So, yeah, I just... I don't get it at all. I still don't get it. And, like, I tagged Luca. I asked in in the abstract discord. Like, if somebody could please explain to me and, like, until this very day, I've never got a reply. And if you're also counting on, like, your community to pump your chain, you should probably treat them with a bit more respect than just, like, blocking people for having an opinion in your Discord server. And that was going on also from day one. They were, like, sibling people out of the Pengu airdrop back then. I got sibled out just because I said stop being rude to people in in the abstract server. So they literally sibled my wallet out of the Pengu drop. They blocked my friends. They called my other friend a knucklehead. Like, that was what was going on in the community. So if you're relying on community, that's... Yeah. You probably shouldn't speak to people like that. I mean Yeah. [0:06:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So, DocNooNoo, don't worry. You didn't miss much. I'm convinced that the Pengui AirDrop was a complete federal operation, 100%. It was like, connect this wallet and then connect that wallet, and then you're gonna connect this wallet to your home address, to your PIN number, to your Social Security number. And we got more and more and more Pengu for you. So don't worry. It wasn't it wasn't much. [0:06:38] Moni @monitalan: No. I I actually... I mean, I was expected... I I had so many wallets because, obviously, I've been NFT, degenning, and I've held I've held Pudgy Penguins in the past and stuff. So, like, I could see how much stimmy, quote, unquote, I was expecting. But when it came to claim day, I couldn't claim anymore, and it had disappeared. So... [0:06:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: The Discord mods that are... That that, like, they get they get so offended. It's like, in one sense, I understand their job is difficult, but in the next, it's just like, you signed up to hear the same question 50,000 times. So what do you want me to tell you? But, yeah, that... That's kinda ridiculous. But, yeah, what what was the purpose? I mean, but, the... Like... Yeah. [0:07:17] Moni @monitalan: The thing... I kinda wish Monica was here because she replied to my post today quite detailed about how she saw it as, like, a consumer chain, but I just don't understand that. Like, for me, Solana is a con... Yeah. Like, if if anyone's doing anything for consumers, it's gonna be Solana. [0:07:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Consumer chain. People are like... That means that you have a bunch of, like, second rate dev... So let me let me not say that. You have a bunch of devs that are building tools that have that have never been tested on the market. You don't know if there's product market fit. You don't know what the addressable market is. You're literally just saying we want to start a chain to start a chain. [0:07:52] Voice J: Abstract had no purpose from [0:07:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: the jump. Yeah. No. No. You're right. Like, I think [0:07:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: about it... [0:07:56] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Alright. No. Yeah. I was gonna say it was it was at a funny time in the space as well that they look like they they announced that they were launching this because, like, NFTs became boring. Meme coins just dried out. Like, everyone was over them. So the meta became let's launch a chain, and then you had, like, a Zuki launching anime chain as well. I had the same question about that. Why is it a chain? Is it just like, are we now at a time in the space where we're no longer launching NFT project or meme coins? Everyone's just gonna launch a chain instead. [0:08:25] Kool @koolcryptovc: So I, you know, I I so I I use the the abstract chain. Right? And it it... I I stopped messing with it because it was it was very tasking. You you have to play all these games and use all these apps and earn to earn to earn XPs. It felt like like homework. It felt like calculus, algebra 10. I'm like, I can't keep up with this shit, man. So I just... I stopped doing it, but but I don't I don't know, man. At first, it seemed it seemed very promising. Right? But I think most people just felt like they... They're gonna make a lot of money from this. But I don't know. I I... It's it's it's it's kinda shocking and also shocking at the same time because you have a lot of chains, and they all compete for the same users. It is that simple. Right? It's difficult to keep people interested in one chain for a long time. So Solana is is is to use. It's been around for a long time. It's been to a bear market. It's still here. Solana has a cult following. Abstract never did. They never they never were able to develop that cult following. Right? At the end of the day, if your chain can develop that cultish, you know, following, you're not gonna survive. If Bitcoin has a cult, Ethereum has a cult, Solana, Chainlink, XRP even. So if you'll think and develop develop a dot call to follow me, not in this environment. Not not not not in the markets. [0:09:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you remember what they did? Sorry, Nuno. I just wanna make this point. Do you remember what they did? They... I remember going into spaces, and they were incentivizing people to be like, oh, streaming. Streaming. Streaming. This is what you wanna do. And it's just like, you liter... If there was ever a definition of farming your community, I'm pretty sure that was the quintessential definition of it. Right? And they were crazy about it too. Like, it's [0:10:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: not getting hot. So so so I think I think that the the streaming... If if they were... If if they stopped to just one thing, if abstract came out and said, look. We're the streaming change. Come and stream with us, and you make money. And that's it. Then they're probably more likely to to to to to succeed, but they're trying to do gaming and streaming and finance and RWS. It was just... It was too many things all at once. And I think it it it hurt them. It hurt them really bad. Yeah. [0:10:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dude, they had a layup with with Myriad, and they still screwed it up. But, yeah, Nudu, go ahead. [0:10:48] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. I was gonna respond to a call on some... Well, pick up on something that he said, but really quick, the streaming thing as well. Like, it just went against the whole sort of ethos of blockchain because it was, like, it wasn't decentralized. The team would decide who could... Who would get approved for streaming and who wouldn't initially. And then they got a bunch of feedback about how that was bullshit. Like, this is not blockchain, chain, and then they made it, like, open for everyone who had, like, gold tier or something, I think. But, yeah, I mean, I I said it in my post that I retweeted today from a year ago. I was like, everybody thinks they're farming Applack chain, but you are the crop that's getting farmed. And Cole basically said that he thought it was promising at the start. So I just kind of wanted to pick on that and say, what was it that you thought was promising about it? I'm curious. [0:11:33] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. I I think I think it it was it was because it was different or something different, something new, something flashy at the beginning. Right? Of course. And like I said before, your... It's difficult to to to to be sustainable long term if you don't have real calls and real users. [0:11:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: They're all But what was the purpose of the chain, cool, is what she said. No. No. I I I I What was new? What was different? Yeah. [0:11:57] Kool @koolcryptovc: I I... At the end of the day, you know, at the beginning, you know, a lot of people were gonna make money from this stuff. Right? That that was a promise. And if you if you make money from it, I guess, those will... Whatever. But I don't know, man. It's just... It's it's very sad, though, because I know a lot of people spent a lot of money on this stuff. And and like you said, you are the one that farmed at the end of the day or so, but it's it's just... It sucks, man. I I I do feel bad for a of people, though, because I... Yeah. People spend money on this. Remember, if you bought bought a pen... A a a a pen NFT, you you you got more XPs. If you bought a little little little... If you held over over... I think over a million or 10,000,000 or a 100,000,000 Pengu, then you get more XP. So you ain't getting farmed, man, and it's just... It's very unfortunate, though. Lot of people probably lost money through fees on this. [0:12:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: You also got a credit card, a cast credit card. Don't forget that when you used it, the money was never yours. Once you loaded it, by the way, don't forget. Okay? [0:13:00] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. I have a story about that I have a story about that credit cards thing that they did. But... Yeah. I think I think worse than us individuals being, like, farmed by abstract chain, I feel sorry for the teams who tried to build on there because, like, you saw them fall, like, flies one by one. Everyone's left abstract chain, and that's with good reason. And I've been on a team that tried to work with abstract, like, directly in DMs with Mason, Finn, Luca, and stuff. And they would basically promise you the world, yep. Do this. Do that. We'll support you. And then when it came to the crunch, there was literally no support at all. And every single team that's ever tried to build on there had the same experience. And with us specifically, the team that I worked with, we actually proposed, like, this DeFi dual pool kind of farm, and we were gonna bring, like, DeFi to abstract chain very early on before the Aborify thing existed. And we were also working with... I won't mention who they were, but they they did this credit card thing. And we also proposed to them that we would, like, work with them to bring a card to abstract, and we had all of this, like, yeah. Yeah. Go for it. Go for it. When you guys are ready, let us know. And then when it came to it, they just turned around and said, oh, we can do this ourselves, actually. We don't need you. And then they went and launched Jaborify and the credit card themselves. So... Yeah. Fuck them. [0:14:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's what I'm talking about. Right? Like, that's... Like, come on, man. I think Luca got a little too... I don't know what everybody saw. They were like, [0:14:27] Voice J: Luca's amazing. Luca's this. And I'm just [0:14:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: like, I don't see it. Maybe I just... I'm not looking in the right place, but I just never saw it. Like... And now when I heard him the other day on, I forgot what... Whose livestream or the video that I saw that said, there is a way where, like, Pudgy goes public on a public stock exchange, and the NFT and Pengu token holders come along for the ride too and get compensated. Luca, the clap is for everyone, but you get a difference. Come on, bro. Stop it. I want to applaud it. I do. I really, really do. Show me, bro. Show me. Show me. Yeah. [0:15:12] Moni @monitalan: That that... Dave, that was that was him doing... Do you guys want the good news first or the bad news? Like, I'm about to run abstract pain, but let me just sweeten the deal a little bit, like, you know, calm everyone down and promise them all sorts of bullshit. [0:15:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: I love it. This is like con man, like, bullshit one zero one. This is amazing. It's like, let me just say this. And if I do... It's like, remember when Kaito did that, and they were like, we have an exclusive deal with Twitter. And it's like, bitch, you're using the Twitter API. What are you talking about? I now have that in my Grock bot. We can do the same thing. Like, what are we saying here? This is insane. But, like, crypto Twitter loves to eat it up and make it... Because everyone's looking [0:15:49] Voice J: to create content about something that's just like, [0:15:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: is Kaito back? Oh my god. And then everybody complains when they farmed your ass for the crime pump, and you're like, oh my god. He's so messed up. I know. They glorious shit. [0:16:01] Kool @koolcryptovc: I really And became like I I really hate to say this, but it... Is land you rights to just buy Bitcoin, and that's it. Just don't touch nothing else. Buy Bitcoin, and that's it. Right? I... Because I think days like this makes people Bitcoin Maxis, man. I mean, imagine farming a protocol for two fucking years, and you get screwed in the back just from nowhere. Right? No no no... Yeah. I mean, just from nowhere. Like, on a on a nice... Like, right now, driving home, nice sunny day. I'm like, what is... Abstract. What do you mean it's down? What do you mean? Where's my airdrop, bro? Where's my airdrop? [0:16:38] Moni @monitalan: Sounds like a normal day on wall chain, Cole. Sounds like a normal day for the, like, the wall chain info fi gang. [0:16:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. That's for sure. A 100%. That was definitely our... That was the daily. That was the daily. Also, somebody do a wellness check on Yuri. I don't know what happened to Yuri. I see him posting really random things on really random posts. And I think he's still pushing something. I'm not sure, but somebody check on the Ukrainian. Yeah. [0:17:01] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. [0:17:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. [0:17:03] ROYAL @web3Royal_: So I I guess I'll [0:17:04] Coinkong @coinkong: just jump in. I apologize. I had my hand up a little bit. But, yeah, I mean, it's interesting y'all talk about the... Like, these blue chips. And I I speak to them as blue chips because of the layer that they're at. Just... You know, if we're talking blockchain, you know, when you're on Solana or Ethereum or whatever and you're doing a split versus, you know, on a contract or whatever, like, those aren't real necessary, like, real true things unless they have, like, real world applications. Other than that, it's a freaking rug pull. I mean, do [0:17:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: y'all Thank [0:17:36] Voice J: you, bro. [0:17:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. That's it. Like, I don't know how more obvious you have to beat... We... Like, people need to make it. Like, y'all are the test group for a bunch of dudes and... For a bunch of men and women that are building shit that they've probably never built before using tech that they just probably learned, and they're like, let's figure this out. Or a Luca who's, like, thinks he's big shot businessman. And I don't know Luca personally, so I can't take a shot. But, like, Luca who maybe thinks he's like big shot businessman and who Coin Kong is gonna tell you rugged a a bazillion communities because that's what he tells us every time I bring up the word Coin Kong. Wait. Wait. Or or or... Four. Or you're the business guy. It's just like, hey. We're gonna figure this shit out. It's just like, cool. Never been in this situation, but, you guys wanna come for the ride? [0:18:20] Voice J: And the ride But don't get [0:18:21] Coinkong @coinkong: me wrong now. There... There's great, like, you know, tokens out there. I I don't know if y'all know about Lofty AI. I don't know them in the... You know, like, personally. [0:18:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I do invest with them. I love Ferry. [0:18:32] Coinkong @coinkong: Yeah, man. That... That's a real life, like, application where you can take a blockchain such as Ethereum, split it on a contract, make it, you know, low barrier to entry for early early investors. And, yeah, man, it it... You know, you could definitely make this work is what I'm saying. [0:18:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yo. Lofty's on... Isn't Lofty on Algorand? Right? I I believe Lofty's on Algorand. [0:18:54] Coinkong @coinkong: I believe they're splitting. They they were on Ethereum before. Yeah. [0:18:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. But shout out to Jerry, man. I had Jerry on a ton of space. I love Lofty AI, man. The real estate blockchain use case, like, to the tee. Let's say what's up to everybody else. Thank you, bro, and thanks for chiming in because sometimes, yeah, I get a little bit lost. And, obviously, like, I don't think we've ever heard you on this stage before, so we kinda... Sometimes there's a lot of f fuckery that goes on. So we didn't know what you're gonna say, but good to know you're a normal human being with actually, like, real opinions and sense in your brain. So thank you. Who else? Yummy. Good to see you, bro. What's good, my brother? How are you? [0:19:28] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Yo, Dave. It's been a minute. Man, you actually forgot to add the liners to the Yo. [0:19:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chill, Jimmy. Chill. [0:19:38] Voice L: Chill out, bro. It's your [0:19:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: first time back to ATC in a minute. You can't come in that hot. You can't come in that [0:19:47] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: And how are you guys doing? Cool, Crypto. It's been a minute, boss and Dave. Man, I've actually been... I don't know if I'll say I've been busy real life. I've not been attending species too much, lately. And, also, Doug, shout out to you as well. But, man, I feel like today, came with a whole lot of, saga, you know, you know, back and forth and all of that. You know? From, we have an NFT, called, CCFO and all of that. You know? A lot of, memes have been going on with... I see some other laughing that day. You know? [0:20:30] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: You know, got two parties always host this space back to back, and, you know, one of them just woke up today and then decided to be, you know, the Satan inhuman and then, you know, decided to rug everybody's back. You know I mean? So it's actually bleeding everywhere. I mean, you know, we were not even done with that, and then we got the news that abstract is actually [0:20:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you don't you don't sound the same like when [0:20:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: they kept your, hey, Elsa [0:20:57] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: It's so [0:20:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: crazy. Hair drop, bro. Is this sounds a [0:20:59] Kool @koolcryptovc: little different? You [0:21:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't sound as upset, my my guy. You don't sound anywhere near as upset Yeah. On this one than you did on the others. [0:21:11] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Yo. Yo. You you... No. I wanna remind you real quick. You know? The funny thing is, you know, Dave, if you don't understand Yeah. You know, we are going to buy back the token until he gets $100 per token. You know? David's gonna get 50,000 in dollars. You know? Okay. [0:21:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. That's enough now. That's enough. Let me... I need to to talk to everybody else. You're gonna give me scars, Jimmy. Oh my god. [0:21:38] Voice J: This guy [0:21:39] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Man, I you do. Know you do. [0:21:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's good to see you, Jimmy. Good stuff. Good good stuff. Good stuff. [0:21:46] Voice L: Let me [0:21:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: say what's up to Samara. Coincon is here. Samara, what's good, brother? [0:21:50] Voice F: Hey, OJM. Jim, cool, Jim, Dave. Not not anything here. Shout out to you guys, man. [0:21:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm behind I'm behind the dish. I'm behind the dish today. [0:21:58] Voice F: Oh, not not. [0:21:59] Moni @monitalan: Yo. Okay. [0:22:01] Voice F: Yeah. GM. GM. GM. GM. Yeah. It just feels good being a Jeets today, man. Like, everyone is complaining their bags are down, but that Jeet said, like, a long time ago. It just feels good, man. Feels good. You can never go wrong taking profit. You know, I see the CCF of zero zero stuff, where I sold half of the collection. I bought the other half. Like, made the best collection win, man. Was give my free mints and stuff and just, you know, my free white list spots. Like, I don't really care, bro. I detailed my... With profit a long time ago, and I have more money to invest in whatever they put out, and it's cool. If you... And the funny thing about this whole thing is, first, I'll I'll start with abstract, bro. Like, when they went to streaming, that was, the end. I I just was like, bro. Nah. See, trying to convince Web three people to take a step back from crypto and start doing Web two shits is a problem. Like, most of us in web three and crypt... In general, we don't really want to do web two stuff. We just want to print for... Make money from crypto and just vanish. We don't wanna dabble and, you know, nitpick and dip our toes in what the kids are doing these days as much as you wanna incorporate what's the kids enjoying web two into crypto. This is a financial institution. Like, bro, like, we don't really care about the cool stuff. We just want the boring stuff that can make us money. And for those who are heavily invested in the, you know, the XP campaign, lot of people spend, like thousands of dollars just farming the exp's. I don't know what to tell you to say, man. Sorry for your loss, I guess. Sorry for your loss, man, but, bro, like, I don't know. I took a a, like, a huge change when when it comes to these things. Like, I don't... I no longer over overextend myself when it comes to, like, ad reforming and just burning liquidity to... In hopes that the points on the screen increase and, you know, some future awards. If it's... If it extends, you know, past just depositing stables and just watching your stuff grow, it's a problem. And recently, acquired, like, one whole BTC. So, you know, the recent pump from 60 something thousand to 80, seeing five figs in profit is just like, oh, cool. Like, yeah, Landy was right, bro. Like, just buy because [0:24:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't sell that shit. Don't sell that shit. Trust me. Don't do it. Congrats, bro. [0:24:11] Voice F: Yeah. It was... Yeah. So Bitcoin and Hyperloop could have just been, like, doing very well for me recently. They've just been happy, you know, not really doing too much crazy stuff. And it's just been cool. Hopefully, I don't know. I don't... Hopefully, everyone who spent, like, a lot of money forming abstract kind of, you know, find something that can replace, you know, whatever they lost. And for the c t f f zero zero stuff, it was gonna happen eventually, bro. You can host two for seven spaces every day. And, again, there are two friends. Friends fights. And when when when one goes, like, a different direction, everything crashes. I told everyone when he points to, like, $30, I'm like, bro, $8 to $30 is is Jeets. Sell everything. I always make the joke. Sell sell everything, bro. I took a lot of... A bunch of profit back then and, you know... Yeah. It's just fun to see that things actually worked out in my favor. I wish, you know, that it didn't happen when it happened because I knew people who still had, like, a bunch of cubes and squares and... You know? But, again, I just literally minted those circles, you know, with some some profit. Whoever can give me money, then give it to me. I don't really care about this whole price section and stuff, to be honest. But, again, shout out to you guys. I mean, abstracts, people who lost on abstract, people who lost on the $650.00, there's still more money to be made, man. Go trade me coins, I guess. So, hopefully, you don't get robbed. But, again, you know, a lot has happened in this space. But, again, we will still, you know, make more. [0:25:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Any other... But any... Is there another again after that one or or no? But that was well said. [0:25:40] Voice F: No. No. That was not. Amazing [0:25:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: stuff, Samara. I... You know what? I think I think those Robin Hood dudes have been fleecing all of you for this entire time Because those collections were probably made by them. [0:25:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: All of you lying. [0:25:56] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: I'm gonna [0:25:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: sell you a pack. Yeah. [0:25:58] Voice F: Yes. I I told I told people that, bro, all these things you're seeing happen is just like Smoking mirrors. Organized movie. So just take a profit when you see it. Don't just get fucked in with the whole... We're going to Valhalla stuff, bro. I got burned a long time ago, so I I feel nothing at this point. I just [0:26:14] Voice L: take my [0:26:15] Voice F: profit as [0:26:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: So you're dead inside. Welcome to the dog [0:26:18] Voice F: dead inside when he goes through all these, like... [0:26:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, you know what he said now? Bring back the... Bring the criminals back to crypto. You know? [0:26:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: So for for for anyone in the space right now, listen. Right? Do do do you guys have any advice for anyone listening? Where where is money at right now, man? Where where are people going to make money now? It it just seems like things are just so crazy. [0:26:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Your couch cushions. Actually, you know what? [0:26:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: In the stock market. In the stock market. Yeah. Yeah. Actually Literally, a lot of them made a new high-tech. Go ahead, [0:26:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And I'm not kidding. Like, you you guys might think this is the shill on the on the ref link for for vest, but people are cashing out big, big dollars, man. I'm telling you right now. Like, you have the opportunity to, like, even learn how to trade for, like, the smallest amount of money, but also potentially make a shit ton of money. But whatever. I'll put that in the comments and and the post above. You wanna know how people are making money? Cool. Shout out to my guy, Blank Speaker, that's in the building. Blank Speaker is the go to resource for, like, all shit, like, Grock stuff. Right? You now can create a Grock bot. Right? You could sign up. I think it's, like, $20 a month. They're, like, for, like, the lowest lowest tier. You might not get too much usage or inference, whatever, but it is what it is. But at least, like, you can go create bots. If you think you have a... You've solved a problem that a lot of other people are probably facing, and you, like, go create a Grok bot and share that template with the timeline. Bro, my man, Blankspeakers, was... He's the one that inspired me. When I saw his post, I was like, damn. Look. This guy's getting checks. Bro, the team is literally rewarding people for creating bots that other people are using. So give it a shot. And even if you know nothing about that kind of stuff, go for it. Not crypto related. The trading stuff was best. Natalie, I'll leave that to you. [0:27:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Absolutely. So there's been a lot of inflows into the stock market. Right? A lot... So we saw AMD, NVIDIA, a whole bunch of them make new highs today. NVIDIA looks very interesting. Right? It looks like it's about to go into price discovery. In addition to that, there's been big, big news across the board that has been influencing a lot of the price movement that we've been seeing. So there's a lot of money to be made in the stock market. But before we dive into the energy and nuclear and and stock market ticker alpha, Coin Kong mentioned something that kinda raids my ears a little bit, has me a little, you know, perked up. You mentioned Luca that he has robbed other communities before. Is that what you is that what you said? It's... [0:28:47] Coinkong @coinkong: He... I mean, like, listen. Like, I'm not I'm not here to gravedance today because I actually have some friends that lost a good amount of money. I'm helping them out by ordering ropes off Amazon and have them directly shipped to their house. You know, just wanna make sure they're long enough and everything. [0:29:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just Wow. [0:29:02] Coinkong @coinkong: Them out. Yeah. But but but... Yeah. I mean, listen. The guy the guy has not just failed businesses. Like, there's difference between failed businesses. Right? Like, I have failed businesses. I bankrupt them. I go down the the correct way of closing shit. You know what I mean? And then there's, like, I extracted what I can from my communities and then just fucked off. You know what I mean? So we could save this for another day. I'm not gonna get into it today just because I don't want to... I I do have a lot of... A a a lot of friends that that are down bad today. So I'm trying not to grave dance into the spaces I go today. [0:29:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: That chuckle was a grave dance, just FYI. You shouldn't chuckle [0:29:48] Voice F: like that. [0:29:50] Coinkong @coinkong: I'd... It's a chuckle where I go fucking full ham, bro, and I'm trying not to do that. But, yeah, doing good. And sucks the Astrac's going away. I don't think there wasn't too many people that have been around for a while that didn't see it coming out. And I'll just kinda leave it at that. [0:30:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. So I think now can we officially say that the airdrop and points meta, is that completely over with? [0:30:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. Oh, no. [0:30:18] Coinkong @coinkong: That that stuff that stuff will never go away. And I'm just gonna say, you know [0:30:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: AirDrop stuff? [0:30:24] Voice J: To go... [0:30:25] Coinkong @coinkong: I I just don't I don't see them going away, man. I I just don't. Like, I I think that with the way the tech works and as more, [0:30:40] Coinkong @coinkong: legacy companies come in, you know, like token... Companies that are already tokenized coming in, that it gives them the ability to onboard more normal people knowing that those normal people will have easy access to be onboarded. I don't... Does that make sense at all? [0:31:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Actually, no. I didn't understand the word you said. [0:31:07] Coinkong @coinkong: I feel like the company has been around for a while. Can onboard more normal people into crypto being able to say, hey. Here's free money. It's called an airdrop. Go get it. By doing that, they are able to onboard more people into our space. So I don't think it's going away, and I don't even think it's gonna be as bad as it's been. I think it's gonna get worse. [0:31:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Don't Per... Personal thoughts. Fair. Fair. Fair. Fair. Yeah. I was... I'll... I had a response. I'll save it. Yeah. That's gonna take me down rabbit Hole city. Okay. [0:31:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. No. We did have Lunu with her hand up, David, and then we have Royal with his hand up as well. No. It's okay. Go ahead, Lunu. [0:31:46] Moni @monitalan: Sorry. Yeah. No. If anybody does wanna lee... Read Luca Netz's impressive resume of shady behavior, Okhotshot wrote, like, an article on him back in 2023, so I've just pinned it, like, to the jumbo. [0:32:01] Coinkong @coinkong: I literally was just gonna pin the same thing up and just put it on top and leave it there. So that's great. [0:32:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Got it. Thank you, DocNooNoo. Royal, go ahead. Thank you for for joining us today. [0:32:17] ROYAL @web3Royal_: Yeah. Thank you so much. I'm actually happy to be here. And concerning what calling Congo saying... And, honestly, this space is going to be getting worse because... Let me say this. I've been in the energy distinct industry for some time now, and I think literally last month, I just have to waste because I had... I actually had a bond, yeah, last month, and it was crazy. I never expected it. And, you know, the projects you believed in, the founder you believed in, just leave all of his all of his sudden. And they all believe that more of this is going to come. And even what happened to abstract and CCFO, I was not even surprised, honestly, because concerning the abstract, it has been... We've been in sales since 2025, and it's mainly just because the fact that major KOLs on this page are actually talking about it, and it gives a lot of people. And I've come to the realization that even when you see something on the TL for people listening, and I will say this, you just trust it. You have to do your own research irrespective of the person sharing it and irrespective of the person talking about it. And concerning the way abstract that it is very funny because they are playing the game of extraction, and that's the reason why I will see that. Even Robin Wood was able to surpass abstract. I think abstracts literally have a lot of, you know, a lot of resources to go ahead and do great things. But the fact that the actual... The days or... How would I put it? Should I say the days are actually there just to, you know, to make the community and to get the money out of here and just leave. I think it actually caught a lot of things there. And I'm not surprised because I know that a lot of new projects, we actually do that a lot. I mean, the ones we chose, we actually even do that. I still believe it, but nobody knows the one that will be that will piss off. And concerning a drop, a drop will always stay, honestly. It will always stay because that's the only way to onboard more people here. That's the only way to onboard even more people here. I don't know. I think somehow I want to see something. So thank you so much, All things, thank you so much, David. Jim, Jim, once again. [0:34:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're good, Royall. You're good. Samar, I'm coming to you right now. You know what I just thought of just that in this moment, guys? You know what's really funny is everybody went and farmed abstract and put money in to a chain that they had, to Nudu's point, no fucking clue what it was... What his purpose was. None. Zero. Not... Nothing. [0:34:55] ROYAL @web3Royal_: Not bad. [0:34:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. But yet... But what... But yet, hold on. We don't charge anybody to come to ATC, and we do it for free. Let me scratch my head here for a second. [0:35:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bro, bro, then we don't we don't do airdrops there, bro. If if we do airdrops, we'll get 10,000 live viewers, bro. [0:35:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, I tried to do a airdrop of, you know, loonies and tunies, but nobody was really having it. Sorry. Great point. Royal and Samara, go ahead. [0:35:24] Voice F: Yeah. I just wanted to add, you know, the whole abstract bullishness was just basically chaos paid to just push the whole, you know, ecosystem. You know? And, if you're taking your advice from who are being paid to push something, now you push it and you believe in it with as much bullishness as someone who's being paid $50,000 to actually promote that shit, bro. I don't know what to tell you, man. I don't know what to tell you, bro. Even with the whole, like, the livestream stuff, bro. Like, most of the chaos going there and just try to stream live, I know they get, like, 200 viewers, bro, in in hours. It's just ridiculous. So, again, that was not going anywhere. If that if that was the most rep, that's probably gonna take... That was not gonna go anywhere. But, again, bro, I have to stop saying, but, again, it's a bad character of mine. So I get... Oh my Jesus Christ. Oh. Yeah. It's it's a... Yeah. [0:36:14] Kool @koolcryptovc: It's a habit. I'm argue [0:36:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: genuinely a lot. Don't worry about it. You're good. [0:36:17] Voice F: Yeah. It's a bad habit. But, like, airdrops. Right? If it has to... If it's... If it pretends you burning money in terms of fees to actually get an airdrop or just get, like, points on the screen, I kind of washed my hands off that a long time ago. Like, I'm not doing that. I'm not gonna just spend thousand dollars just in hopes that those points in the screen equates to some sort of dollar value. That's where I kinda, like, you know, take a step back from the old AirDrop thing. But will AirDrop die? Not really. It's just gonna change. It's gonna morph into something else. It's gonna get harder and harder. We've seen it go... Get harder and harder as the years go by. But it's always gonna be like some sort of reward system. Even for, you know, newbies and even crypto bros, everyone loves free money. It's just not good... It's just not gonna be what we're we're kinda, like, used to, but we'll be here to see what it actually turns out to be. So please stop burning money on on a change you don't know anything about just to get points on the screen and whenever it quits or anything. We saw Dresser did the same thing. People paid a lot of money just to run notes and get points on the screen. They literally just vanished. No word from them. So protocol, same thing. No word from them. They even ran, like, a a sale and got, like, $12,000,000 and just vanished. Like, not a single word just disappeared. It's just ridiculous. So please stop burning money, thousands of dollars on a on a chain or on a platform just in hopes he gets, like, some sort of I [0:37:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: would totally abandon Ali off at 12,000,000, just so you know. [0:37:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. This crystal clear [0:37:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: 12,000,000. I'm sorry. I'm out. I'm sorry. Like, it is what it is. 12,000,000? Deuces. You you [0:37:56] Kool @koolcryptovc: see you see, this is why I said, you know, you you sometimes take breaks, man. I I think this space is mentally... It... It's drain your soul if you don't manage your emotions or take breaks in between because it it it it... People lose their minds over this shit, man. I mean, it's it's pretty bad, but you you could you're grinding for days and months and years, and at the end of day, you get nothing. So just take a break if you need it, you know, and and call Dave and Nat Nat for for counseling if you need it because they they they good therapist, man. So, yeah, that's my advice. [0:38:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: You don't get charged. I will charge you. There is an hourly rate if I have to listen to your bullshit for sure because it's probably gonna sound like my bullshit, and I'm probably super qualified to actually help you through that bullshit. So $1.50 an hour. Maybe if you're a friend of the show, we can make an exception. But real quick, we gotta get to the stories. Yeah. Me, Royal, make them some quick points, please, and then I'll let Nat Nat get... Start getting to the headlines. [0:38:58] ROYAL @web3Royal_: So, yeah, concerning what Samar actually said, Samar talked about something related to Keyways, and I think I talked talked about that. And all I really have to see is that... Do you know something that Nikita literally did a lot of things on the TO, honestly, positively, but in some ways, negatively. Concerning the use of all this speed tag because sometimes you think that somebody is just tweeting for phone about the project. Meanwhile, the person is getting paid every day and, you know, a lot of people are falling into that into that bullshit, honestly. And concerning a project, a guy messaged me, DM'd me rather today. I never knew the guy. The guy was like, bro, be careful of this project. And somehow, I don't I don't want to talk about the project. I don't I don't wanna say anything about the project. The person talked about that and the result you guys told me was around 12 point something million dollars, like, the project run with it and created another project. And after they created and vanished again, they created another project making TV projects in a row. And now they are running the third project. Now family creators to create for them, giving them $2,000 per month. That's crazy, honestly. And I think we will never be better in terms of that because there are some people here that are just here to jit. They are just here to jit. They are just here for your money. And I will always say this, be careful about where you invest to. You know, I was saying something that last month, I fell into a lot of things. I mean, I lost the money on I lost the lot of money on Shen and it is crazy. But I saw the red flag and I ignored. Basically, because, you know, you trusted someone for... That you are following, and that's no argument. [0:40:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's a problem, bro. Trust in crypto? In what world do you live, my boy? Trust? As far as I'm concerned, these are ninjas, satellite dishes, monkeys, apparently a human being who looks like a chef with a weird picture and maybe an apron around his name. Anyway, a a blonde... Ah. Oh, shit. They shooting out. Oh my god. [0:41:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh my god. [0:41:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm kidding. [0:41:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, wow. Gonna [0:41:10] ROYAL @web3Royal_: just buy... [0:41:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: They'll do fireworks. Oh, David. Oh my god. No. That's not funny. [0:41:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: God. Shooting in Brooklyn. [0:41:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: I know That's not funny because they tried to be [0:41:19] Coinkong @coinkong: so horrible. Hearts in their forties. You know what I'm saying? [0:41:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: Wow. See, DocNooNoo and I, we're we're like, we don't think it's funny, David. We're about to send a mad hunt. We don't we don't think it's funny. [0:41:29] Voice L: Yeah. Chill [0:41:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: out. Chill out. Okay? Chill out. Alright. Yemi The [0:41:34] Moni @monitalan: boy who cried wolf. The boy who cried wolf. One day, you'll need our help, we won't be there, David. [0:41:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's right. We will definitely be there. Go ahead. Obviously. Ahead, Yemi. [0:41:49] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Yes. Man, I actually wanted to add to what Samara said the other time, you know, in respect to, you know, projects there. And then... Sorry. At this year, it's you. Not. Pardon me. I forgot you're the one behind the old account. So, yeah, so I wanted to say... Add to what Sama was saying. Well, you know, the funny thing is, you know, I feel like this whole thing is is meta. You know? Even I believe CoolCrypto also understands. You know? At some point, you know, in this, whole web trace space, you actually need to farm some some projects with, with some money. But, you know, at some point as well, you know, it gets, very, very unfortunate, you know, for someone like, I mean, I think I found, Linea for about three years. I I mean, Samara, I think we we did about three years. Right? [0:42:39] Voice F: I didn't probably with you guys. [0:42:45] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Man, I did... I think I'm probably near about three years. And, you know, you know, I think I stick at some point about, 1,005 or 2000 or or there, but, you know, for months up to a year. And then, you know, at the end of the day, I go about $600, which is really, really, nothing to write on my back. And then, again, recently, I think I I went very hard on Astec. You know, I ran loads for months, you know, buying, GPU and all of that for months and then, you know, setting it up. And then at the end of the day, man, I made I made no single profit, bro. And then this thing came, you know, raised a lot of money, and then they are like, fucking. No. You know? We are not doing airdrop. You are gonna clean this, this, and that. Man, this is your solution. I'm sending you [0:43:34] Voice L: a bill. [0:43:34] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: You know, you see [0:43:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: you a bill. This is a $150 right here. This sounds like you in therapy, MFer. Okay? That's what it sounds like. Man. Okay? If you gotta see somebody and you wanna pay the fee, you wanna use those linear tokens, you know what I'm saying, for good. Like, I don't know what they're worth now, but they better be a 100... I better be able to swap for a 150 USDC. That's for sure. [0:43:56] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: They are actually worth they are actually worth nothing. No. Way. That's [0:44:00] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: why I [0:44:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: mean, for for some [0:44:01] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: for some time now, I... I've actually stayed away from from farming. Think there are some of... Couple of my friends. They're like, bro, you need to actually change this. I'm like, bro, I'm not even doing anything, testing, farming, nothing, because it doesn't make sense. You know? You you farm. You do stay up all the all night farm, and then at the end of the day, they just come like a strap and say, some of them, they just even rob you [0:44:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: of Bro. [0:44:26] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: And then at the end of the day, you get a Yeah. [0:44:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Listen, guys. This whole space is a money grab. [0:44:31] Voice J: Do you [0:44:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: not understand? Have you not caught the plot yet? Right? The whole every single person is literally out here trying to figure out, you heard there's free money here? Oh, what do I have to do? Oh, no way. And then everybody all of a sudden became a Uniswap airdrop fucked everybody. Let's be honest. You set the precedent the completely wrong way. You airdropped a fuck ton of money... Sorry, Natalie. A ton of money to everybody, and now it was like airdrops, airdrops, airdrops. And every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the planet was like airdrops. Anyways, great vent session, guys. We're gonna get to Nat. Obviously, we got some stories that we gotta cover. If I see some hands up, if you vent, I'll I'll kill you, but also... Yeah. Really, really, really quick. Roberto, what's good, bro? Then TSN. Royal, we're gonna come back to you because you've been chat... You've been a little chatty cat through the [0:45:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: whole time. I'll be really quick because I was gonna go back to what the the last guy has just said is. If if you've sent money into a GPU to run your own for... What you might wanna do is set up your own local model so you don't have to pay. [0:45:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. No. TSN. This wasn't a real GPU. This was like a g... Yeah. Tell them that you didn't go out and actually buy an actual piece of hardware, that it was a, quote, GPU. [0:45:54] Voice J: No. Yeah. [0:45:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. [0:45:56] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: No. No. It would... Yeah. Yeah. TS... TSN. [0:45:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: They sell you a bag of goods, bro. That's it. [0:46:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, wow. [0:46:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. It is. [0:46:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah, bro. Yeah. [0:46:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: They call it a GPU just to make it sound sexy, and you're like, you think, like, oh my god. I heard that in an AI space once, and you're like, fuck. Yeah. Let's go. Oh my god. Seriously, I get it, Natalie. I get it. I get it. I'll I'll calm it down. Capreto, go ahead. [0:46:21] Voice H: Yo. Listen, man. This is the first for me, Dave. First of all, what's up? And second of all, bro, I can't believe it, but I'm actually, like, a 100% agreeing with you on your last take, bro. This is a first for me. I'm not kidding you. This is a... And you know that. And second of all, I do... I did hop on to say a quick joke and listen to this abstract. That's it. That's the joke. Thank you very much. [0:46:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's actually not bad. I actually like that. Abstract. It's like art. What is art? Is art art? Are we art? Abstract. The chain where we have no freaking clue what the purpose is. Anyways, alright, guys. Your hands might hurt a little bit. Natalie, please go ahead. [0:47:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. You guys ready for some, alpha, some ticker alpha? Don't sound so excited. People. Don't sound so excited now, guys. Okay. So a lot of movements, a lot of news in the stock market. I know that's where a lot of the flow, a lot of the money has been flowing to. Right? So two tickers, and then I guess we'll rotate it back to the heads because I see e l f, d c, and then Roy has something else he wants to say. So two tickers to keep in mind that have really, really done some amazing things today. One one being, Vistra, v s t. Very interesting piece of news that came out today. So the Department of Energy, this... If you've been if you've been, listening to this space or forgetting this space, the Department of Energy should be a name that you are familiar with because we did cover a story... A segment on them in which they issued out some statements, and we were able to take advantage of what they said in terms of what... And what that meant for certain stocks. So if you guys remember, at some point, we had Alpha Gamer up here. Based on what the Department of Energy stated around that time, we were able to position ourselves in IMSR and SMR, and those two gave us a nice return along with a few others. Right? If you guys remember that. So now the Department of Energy is back again. Right? So key points, Department of Energy is giving Vistra a $4,200,000,000 loan. The funds will add twenty years service life to existing nuclear power plants. Keep in mind, nuclear is also something that we've covered on the space before. Right? The funds would also add 10% to Vistra's power productivity capacity. The stock went absolutely nuts today. It... There was a big level at $1.60, and we're above it now. There was a lot of volume, a lot of flow. People were just buying it like crazy today. So something something to keep in to keep in the back of our... In... To to keep in back of your minds. Right? The other one is s e g, constellation energy. If it sounds familiar to you, it is because we have also mentioned this previously. This is one that Ryan actually mentioned as well before. So this is an... Next one for your watch list. This one was up over 12% today. In in the crypto world, 12%, but in the stock market world, depending on the price of the stock, 12% can be a lot. Like, imagine getting a 12% on NQ, Dave. That would that would be beautiful. Right? So Constellation Energy announced a mega power deal with Google, and the stock went absolutely, absolutely crazy. So the agreement will see Google invest again in nuclear upgrades across 11 of SAG facilities in three states. So we have two tickers. We have VST, and we have SEG where money is being flowed into for their nuclear... For nuclear. Right? So why do I... Why am I, you know, stating nuclear a lot? There have been shows that we... We've been in in which we've spoken about sector rotation, knowing where the money is, knowing knowing... Watching the flow watching the flow, which is so important. So based on these news and the laws and the amount that's going into nuclear and the partnership, there is flow. There is rotation into that nuclear sector. The downside to that is that some of these nuclear plants, they're years away from profitability. So there is absolutely risk there. But these these two, VST and s e... And CEG, seg, were one of the top two performers today in terms of the nuclear sector. And what that did with the amount of money that was flowing into those two, we saw other nuclear place take off, namely SMR, which is one that we've covered a few times on the show. That one was up over 6% today again. So watching the flow, knowing what Wall Street is looking at, look... Knowing where the money is flowing into is very important, in moments like these where no one knows what to do. Do we just buy BTC and hold? Like, where where do we invest in? Where do we put our money in? News like this and things like this is so important because it kinda... It's like tea leaves. Read the tea leaves. This is part of the tea leaves. Not saying that we're gonna make a million dollars tomorrow. Not saying that the stock is gonna go absolutely bonkers, but this is telling us there is at minimum interest in this sector. So I just wanted to add that. [0:52:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Great stuff. Amazing stuff. Guys, this is the stuff that you have to do when you're a grown up. K? Not when you come here and think that you're trading financial instruments like pictures of monkeys on something called OpenSea. No. No. This is like the grown up stuff. Okay? You wanna [0:52:37] Coinkong @coinkong: You can do both, Danf. [0:52:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's fair. I didn't... That's fair. That's fair. Very good point. Good distinction. You can do both. Actually, most people can't. I take that back. Most people can't. They can't do both. It's impossible. Great stuff, Nat. Really, really great stuff. Love that. [0:52:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: Thank you, David. Yep. I saw... We we saw... We got one of our quants here. What's up, Milo? [0:52:58] Milo @0dteSPY: So, you know, it was the entire sector. Right? NNE, I think, was up. Okay. LO was up. I put something in the chat about SO was also offered a very large loan by DOE as well. Yeah. There's plenty of entry, and there's plenty of plays out there. So just enjoy the ride. Buy some options or don't, and enjoy. [0:53:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just love how he says buy some options or doing whatever you wanna do. Thank you, Milo. I appreciate it. TSN, curious your take on it because I know you do dabble in the stock market as well. [0:53:36] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. I do, to be fair. There's not so much to me, but I do follow this sort of supply trends and where CapEx and big money is going. And I think you're sort of hitting the nail on that where it's going. You follow the supply chain of what the big tech companies are actually governments to start things processing them. We need the infrastructure there. We need to be able to build it, but we also need the power there to do it as well. And I think that's why we're we're gonna end up with small nuclear power plants powering a lot of the major site data centers and the industry around that as well. That's gonna expand hugely in the next few years, especially as AI grows out and data centers grow out. It's it's being costed in now because you just got to look at what Eel is doing in terms of its Gigafactory and the scale of that. That needs power. So you need the nuclear power or you need the power soft to be able to do that in the first place. So the investment's gonna be there. It's gonna go through the entire sector. We're seeing a huge amount of money flow into this across big tech. CapEx, there may be winners and losers across the long term. It may come to a point where we we... We've got a big we've got a big 20 at the moment. Everybody is going into it. There will... Lot of money has been pumped into it. All consolidate down, but end of the day, you still need the power to power it. [0:55:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Agreed. And, also, Milo, thank you for the the story that you shared for SO. They were offered 26,500,000,000. Right? So there's definitely interest there. So we saw OCLO as well as NNE. Thank you, Milo. Did you post it in in the comment section? [0:55:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [0:55:24] NatNat @Natnatx007: I saw it. Thank thank you so much, Milo. Alright. I see we have Alf with his hand up. Go ahead, Alf. [0:55:32] Voice I: Yo. You guys, what's good? Nat Nat, how are doing? It's been a long time I've been on spaces, actually. Shout out to Sama Samara. I see you there in the building. Some of my folks, familiar faces in the audience as well. I just wanted to add my voice to, you know, the whole abstract situation because, you know, I know... And it's kind of like a drawback because you guys kind of moved into stocks, which I'm not very, very, you know, enlightened about. I would love to hear about... More of it. But talking about abstracts because, you know, we've we've we've engaged on the chain. We've we've spoken about this multiple times on spaces I've hosted and, you know, spaces I've joined. And it's just hard to see that, you know, they're winding down like this. I feel like they shouldn't be... Like, if if we really want to see, you know, this space really evolve and go into financial instruments or the financial space as, you know, the stocks and, you know, the financial market generally, right, cryptocurrencies. For us to have those kind... That kind of respect that stocks have, I feel like there should be reregulation in this space. These kind of things shouldn't be allowed to happen like this. And, you know, everyone is just saying, you know, carry your losses or eat your losses and just... It shouldn't be that way. These people should be held accountable. Right? And, you know, I think someone brought about brought up, like, a post about how Luca Net is a scammer or he... He's been engaged in rock pools. I think, if this kind of proof does actually exist, then, you know, legal action should have been taken before now, and we shouldn't have people bear the losses for their actions. Yes. You know, we always say do your own research, but at the end of the day, who is your research? And who is the researcher? At the end of the day, you are trusting somebody who is telling you something. Right? Myself, I've been in this space for a while, but, like, obviously, coming into this space, I had people that I was looking up to. I had voices that I was following, you know, Cool Crypto being one of them, Dave here as well, you know, before I even started networking, meeting other people in this space, and, you know, getting my own network. But at the end of the day, like, what I'm saying is people always rely on people. And when you have people who are pushing this kind of products, who are pushing these platforms, At the end of the day, that's that's the research that you have to do. And when you bring... When you see this kind of posts from Okhotshot that... I don't know the guy that posted it up. Yeah. Doc DocNooNoo posted up. You know, you you kind of start feeling that, oh, could this person could this person be a hater on LucaNet, or is this actually factually true? But, like, if it was true, there should be a regulatory body that actually takes legal action against LucaNet, and, you know, we don't have to go over the whole issue of, you know, abstracts shutting down and people crying about money they lost. I did engage in abstracts. You know? It was it was a pop for the most of '10, '24, '25, and even... Yeah. I think that's... That was their run, basically. But, like, this kind of thing shouldn't happen. People should have confidence in places where they are putting their money. It's just the same thing as the two thousand and eight financial crisis that happened. Right? You know, there's a there's a limit to what research you you can have or what research an average person can lay his hands on. I feel like we shouldn't just overlook this kind of situations because it will only give room for more of these to happen. And for for more of these to happen, I I don't think that is where we want to see crypto going. We want to see crypto go mainstream. We want to see the blockchain technology being adopt... Adopted by big financial bodies. And, you know, having this kind of platform... Big platform like this shutting down and going without questions answered shouldn't be allowed. [0:59:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's my that's my take. Good good take. But I'll tell you that it's very kumbaya of you. Very nice. Right? Like... But... And I say this respectfully. Respectfully. But But at the end of the day, you know who's responsible for your money? You. That's it. You are the one responsible for your money. You know who gives a shit about Luca Nets in the institutional finance world? Zero people. Nobody. Nobody. If he walked up to them and said, I'm the guy that created these penguins. You know, the ones in Walmart that sold, like, $13,000,000 over the course of their lifetime that essentially made my Pengu token worth billions because people are stupid? Nobody would know him. Nobody, bro. Literally nobody. And I just find it funny how, like, in the beginning, we were all screaming, decentralization. And now look at us. We need regulation. Mom, can we getting fleeced? You know what that means? Somebody was probably smarter than you. Yes, nefarious. Don't take it as an insult. I'm just saying, I've been there too. We've... A lot of us have been there. But at the end of the day, you you know who's responsible for your money? You. You know who I trust? Me. That's who I trust. Me. Me. Me. Me with my money. I don't trust anybody else with my money. Why would I trust anybody else with my money? It's my money. Yeah. No. No. Go ahead. Good stuff, elf. [1:00:45] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. It's funny you mentioned decentralization because that's why I came back up. I mean, when somebody can just rug a whole blockchain and like close it down, where is that decentralization? Seriously. But I don't think, like, regulation means that we are centralized necessarily. So I have to disagree on that point there. [1:01:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: I never said it was centralization. I'm just saying now we're screaming for regulation. I I I... Like, the two can be separate. I I actually didn't mean them in the same context. Was just saying I found it for the two different points. I was just saying that I found it funny that we were just like, we need to regulate this a little bit better. Alright. You wanna put a regulatory... This is how innovation happens. Look at how many DeFi hacks happen, elf. Right? Like, look how many. This is the cost of doing business at this pace. It just is. The ancient... The way AI is taken, I don't know, how many hundreds of billions of dollars from hacks and this and that. Dude, it's the same thing. Right? [1:01:42] Voice I: Like Yeah. That... That's that's exactly... It's exactly my point here, Dave. Like, I'm I'm not saying I'm not saying that... Yeah. I get your point completely. Right? Yes. Everyone should be responsible for their money. But, like, in the long run, how long can we have this continue? Because then every other person should be a rogue. Every other person should scam other people [1:02:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. As long as [1:02:04] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: we want to convince people to [1:02:05] Voice I: put their money. But, like, that's not the right way we want to go. Agree. And, like, doc DocNooNoo came up and said, right, the fact that we have regulatory bodies doesn't mean it is no longer decentralized. It's just we have people that can actually call you to action, and that's that's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's the only way we go forward, guys. That's the only way [1:02:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know how long it's gonna go on for? [1:02:25] Voice I: Trust yourself. Trust yourself. At the end of the day, what is community? What's what is... What what what what what are we doing here? [1:02:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's getting existential now. What is community? Listen. Do you wanna know how long it's gonna go on for, elf? For eternity. Because you know why? It's been going on for eternity. Right? The people that can take advantage of the... Of other people, of less fortunate people, people that aren't as smart as them or don't understand something is a... Like, it's it's a tale as old as time. And as long as you give people the stage or the opportunity to do it, this is just the perfect recipe for it. Right? When you look at crypto, it's just like, oh my god. I get to be on a blockchain, and my name is 0X35B32, but... Alright. And all this shit. And it's just like, now I get to do whatever I want, and these people will believe it. How many of you here truly understand how a blockchain works? What's in a smart contract? Right? Like, I I can't even tell you. Right? Like like, maybe... Still to this day, I... And I'm like, wait a minute. That had a what a what function? I'm not look... Nobody was looking at smart contracts. You know why? Because we were all looking to make money. That's why, bro. So as long as that continues and you turn the blind eye and just move about and just keep going and rush, rush, rush to mint that NFT and then get hacked, motherfucker. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. CoinCon, go ahead. [1:03:49] Coinkong @coinkong: I mean, listen. If if you guys aren't using simple tools to, like, check your transactions before they go through, like, [1:03:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: you deserve to lose your money. Hey. Hey. Hey. [1:04:01] Coinkong @coinkong: Like, I... I'm I'm not being mean. Like, that's not mean. Like, people were like Nat Nat, like Dave, like Landy, everybody who sit up on these stages and tell you guys, use the simple tools that help you save your money. Right? As far as the trading things and, like, you know, what he was saying, like, it doesn't have to be that way. The fact is somebody has to lose or somebody have to win. How long are you gonna be along... Around in this space long enough to learn how to win and not be one of the guys losing? Period. The end. It's never gonna end. It's always gonna be that way because there's no way the market runs without somebody losing. Agreed. [1:04:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: At the same time, you don't... Like, so, like, you could win, but somebody else doesn't necessarily have to lose per se. Just don't step [1:04:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: on that. Tell [1:04:50] Coinkong @coinkong: me how some... I want you to explain to me how somebody makes money. [1:04:54] Voice J: There's a lesson here. [1:04:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: There's a lesson here. [1:04:55] Coinkong @coinkong: There there is. Yeah. I you to tell me Yeah. How somebody makes money in crypto, right, doing what we do, trading, doing this, that, or the other thing without somebody else losing that same amount [1:05:07] Kool @koolcryptovc: of money. [1:05:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: DeFi. They did How does the [1:05:09] Coinkong @coinkong: money go... [1:05:09] Voice I: No. DeFi. [1:05:10] Coinkong @coinkong: DeFi doesn't just say, here. [1:05:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: They they create [1:05:13] Coinkong @coinkong: money out of thin air. Magic magic... Oh my god, bro. Come on. Yeah. [1:05:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: They create money out of thin air, and they're like, emissions. This is how we will pay you. Okay? And you're welcome. It's 496000% APY. We're like, yeah. [1:05:27] Voice J: Put all [1:05:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: my money. What do I own? [1:05:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Here's the thing. Anyways, yes. You're you're right. My point was essentially, just don't be a dick. Like, you don't have to be a dick also. Not you. I'm just saying. But people, like, don't step on anybody else's neck. You can get ahead in any space that you wanna do. Just, like, be the smartest guy in the room or at least try to be the smartest guy in the room. You know what I mean? Or strive to be the smartest guy in the room. And, obviously, you can tell by Coin Kong's completely condescending, you fucking idiots. He obviously believes that he is the smartest guy in the room. And you know what? Who's gonna argue with him? His bank his bank ain't arguing with him. You know what mean? Anyways, who else [1:06:09] Coinkong @coinkong: I am not. I am actually retarded. [1:06:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's true. [1:06:12] Coinkong @coinkong: But this thing is I've been around long enough to know the ins and outs of the things that I play in. Right. That's that's just the thing. Are you gonna stick around long enough to understand it? I honestly, like, I'm an idiot, dude, but, like, I have people that run my companies. Why? Because they do it better than I do. I'm just really good at delegating. You know what I mean? I'm really good at getting people to move in the same direction thinking the same thing. Love that. The most the most wealthy people in the world are not the smartest. They're the people that can get people moving in the same direction at the same time thinking the same thing and thinking that it was their idea. Love that. That's like sales leadership one zero one. Also, do you laugh at your employee or your colleagues and your CEOs of your companies the way you [1:07:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: do us? I just wanna I just wanna check. [1:07:04] Coinkong @coinkong: Absolutely. Okay. [1:07:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good. As long as it's equal opportunity employed. [1:07:08] Coinkong @coinkong: I could straight up give you the three guys that run run the two of my companies, and they'll be like, he is literally the same person every day. [1:07:18] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Aw. That's so cute. [1:07:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're a dick every day on the job. That sounds like so much fun. Okay, guys. Listen. Before I go over to before we go over to DC Dave and back to Royal, in the jumbotron as well as in the comments, you will see... Actually, the one on the jumbotron's good. Guys, you wanna work... You wanna figure out what the next meta is? I'm a tell you this right now. This this is... I don't have confirmation, but, like, from what I'm seeing, I I actually do have confirmation on one of these firms. These prop trading firms that are now, like, and, obviously, you guys know perps are blowing up everywhere. We've been talking about it here for literally, like, the last month, like, every single every every single ATC episode. Perps are, like... I mean, crypto and perps is, like, the the perfect marriage. Right? Like, it's literally a match made in heaven, and it's allowing a lot of gray areas. So now you're getting a lot of people coming into this thing, and prop firms are popping up everywhere. In my DMs, all over all over x. And it's essentially saying, hey. For a little amount of money, we're gonna give you a really large amount of pretend money. And then if you show us that you can trade that pretend money and actually turn a profit, we'll actually give you real money and then pay you out real money. This is as simple as I can put it right now. If you guys could see some of the posts that I see on my timeline today, some guy today took out... When that... What was it? 60,000, 70,000? I know [1:08:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: it's No. There was one that did 130,000 today. [1:08:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's crazy. Yeah. He has 10 different vest prop accounts, right, across the board because you can have multiple. Right? And these get... And these people are getting paid out. Look. Is this a meta? I don't know. Will some of these these firms actually launch a token? Why? I have no idea. But, yes, one of them has or is going to, like, coming in q four. Do I have any idea if it's gonna be any... If it's gonna be a cook? Maybe. I don't know. But what I do know is if you're looking to obviously trade, you need something to kill some time, maybe, like, FAFSA, like, you fuck around and find out a little bit, A $10 account gets you $500. Or you wanna play with the bigger boys? You spend a 100 or $200, and you get 25 k in an eval account. Literally take 25 k. You can lever up to your heart's desire. You literally... I'm not even kidding. On the 25ke [1:09:42] Coinkong @coinkong: dot Send me a ref code in the Tell [1:09:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: them it's already there. It's already there. I know you're gonna be great. You're gonna open up so many accounts. I can't wait to see the degeneracy of your account. And... Yeah, guys. So, like, use the code up top. You'll see it. It's ATC. Click on that link. You go pick one of the the accounts. You could literally start with, like, $10. I'm not even kidding. Go play around, and who knows? Maybe you actually mess around and make some money. I still wanna do the trading competition like I talked about yesterday, but nobody seemed to be too keen. Samara, you joining the the the trading competition? CoinCon, you win for a trading competition? [1:10:18] Coinkong @coinkong: Yeah. Unlike unlike all the other people I heard on your stage the other day, I'm okay with having a a wallet you can track. Yeah. It's fine. Right. [1:10:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Thank you. [1:10:28] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yo. Ninja, you in? [1:10:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's sleeping already. Oh my god. He said his peace, and he was like, back this. I'm going to sleep. Okay. Natalie, we have anything... Oh, sorry. DC Dave. DC Dave, go ahead, bro. Thanks for being patient. [1:10:46] Voice O: Okay. Okay. Yeah. I've been in space, you know, listening to you guys for quite long. Yeah. What I I feel about abstraction, abstraction is just really, really weird when I was, you you know, literally see when it goes live on stream on the space. So I was like, what the fuck? I literally kind of be watching them, but I just feel like, oh, I'm not doing this anymore. But moreover, I just got doing it by farming OpenSea. I think I bought a lot of money and put OpenSea. That's so weird to me. Oh, but it's all fine. It's all fine. We lose money. We make money. But this day, this year is, like, a fucking year a fucked up year to me. I was, you know, literally not to burn any fucking money on any [1:11:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, Jesus. [1:11:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No f bomb. No f bomb. It's a clean show. It's a clean show. [1:11:47] Voice O: Yeah. Yeah. I was fucked up, man. Like, everything was [1:11:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro. No. Bro. Bro. Dave, come on, man. I can't... It's... My god. [1:11:57] Coinkong @coinkong: The the... I I at least did try to go, like, six seconds before I drop another one. You know what mean? [1:12:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like Dave, Dave, [1:12:02] Voice J: no cur... [1:12:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: No cursing, bro. No f, but no [1:12:04] Voice F: no f. I'm I'm not cursing. [1:12:05] Voice O: I'm not cursing. Like, literally, I was only on Perisher market and preps, like, you know, that kind of stuff. Right? You know? So, yeah, I don't I don't I don't trust I don't trust these, you know, abstract anymore. I was like, okay. Even I don't trust it anymore. I was like, okay. Anything you want... Anything you just wanna do, like, you sure you sure people should go ahead and do it. Like, I'm not interested anymore. Like, I'm literally seeing it, you know, shutting down. I was like, what the fuck? Oh, I remember that happened. [1:12:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's it. That's it. [1:12:43] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Come on, [1:12:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: bro. Come on. You gonna get me pinched with Natalie over here. We gave you the directions. We gave you the rules. And anybody that gets in my DMs is like, but you can't shut up. Okay? Shut up. Alright? I earn the right to curse sometimes. It's still by accident. I try and respect the rules. And, also, guys, this isn't therapy. Okay? You wanna show up and give and take. Awesome. It's like, [1:13:06] Voice J: did this, and then I did that, and then I lost here, and then this [1:13:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: guy screwed me. Okay. I love you guys, but also not therapy. Pay me for therapy. Royal, go ahead. [1:13:18] ROYAL @web3Royal_: Yeah. The other one I wanna see, I want to talk about the person talking about regulation the other time because we are going to be talking about regulation and we have seen a lot of projects using huge amount of money, but, meanwhile, it is just ordinary numbers, which is fake. So how do you go about that? That's the first question. And and that I want to say is this, that in this space, as long as you want to make money, it is always transactional. It's either you lose or you gain. So there's nothing like you can bypass that. You can't even bypass that. Only if you want to just leave this space entirely. And I think that's the only thing I know. And that's what I wanna see. So thank you so much, David. [1:14:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You got it, bro. Wait. Wait. Give me the question. Oh my god. My memory is terrible. What was the the fir... You asked the question. I had a response for you too. What was the question that you asked about regulation? [1:14:12] ROYAL @web3Royal_: Yeah. Regulation. I was talking about regulation because we've seen a lot of project out there that are raising, you know, which amount of money [1:14:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, right. [1:14:19] ROYAL @web3Royal_: Concerning the [1:14:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got it. I got it. I got [1:14:22] ROYAL @web3Royal_: it. [1:14:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got it, Royal. Yeah. The perfect person is up here to help you, DocNooNoo, is a due diligence queen. Like, this is literally, like, you know, you need due diligence done. This is the human that you wanna go talk to. So, DocNooNoo, anything on when due diligence for crypto? [1:14:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Sorry. What was the question? [1:14:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: When due diligence for crypto? [1:14:47] Moni @monitalan: What do you mean when? Always, everything. [1:14:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: How? [1:14:52] Moni @monitalan: Just do your own research. [1:14:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, know the acronym. D y o r. Guys, it's... Nothing's changed since day one. Alright? The curtains are the same. The wallpaper is the same, and the acronyms are the same. D y o r. Yeah. [1:15:06] Coinkong @coinkong: And the safest place for your Bitcoins on a QR code. Facts. [1:15:11] Moni @monitalan: I mean, d y o d y o r does obviously involve knowing where to look and who to listen to. So, I mean, Okhotskots is a pretty good guy, I would say, to d y o r with. But also just like talking to people in spaces like this, listening to different takes, and then making up your own mind. [1:15:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know you know you know who the... You... Like, usually the guys that kinda know what they're talking... The guys and girls that kinda know what they're talking about? It's usually the ones that most people don't like for one reason or another. They don't like them because they're real, and they're honest, and they're direct. That's why. [1:15:49] Moni @monitalan: I I am one of those people. I've been canceled by so many people because I just say it as it is and they don't like it because they're like, you're fuzzing my bag. [1:15:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Down into the right. But also if you're an... [1:15:59] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I I definitely want to pick dot new news, Brian, because it's an industry I directly work in is AML KYC. So that's what I do is the day to day job. [1:16:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. There you go. No. No. No. The due diligence queen out here. Yeah. Let's go. Good stuff, TSN. CoinCon, go ahead. [1:16:18] Coinkong @coinkong: I was gonna I was gonna tell Nune. I got I got some I got some due diligence for you. Hey, Hugh. Jirasan is going... Jirasan is being handed over to a few people in a community, including the leftover of the Lord's Chest, which is about a $150. [1:16:36] Moni @monitalan: So so so what... So just to translate what you just said, Coincom, Jirasan is being rung by its founder. [1:16:43] Coinkong @coinkong: It is being... Yes. [1:16:45] Moni @monitalan: Wow. No. Who saw that coming? [1:16:47] Coinkong @coinkong: He's kinda been bullied into fucking giving it [1:16:49] Voice J: up because he [1:16:50] Coinkong @coinkong: didn't wanna give it up. He's been bullied to giving it up to the people in the community that actually want to show up every day. And I'm only saying this because I'm actually gonna help them push a couple of products that they're working on now. But it looks it looks if you're still holding for some god awful reason. Looks like your bags may go up a little bit. [1:17:11] Moni @monitalan: I I I don't have any anymore. I have no bags over there. So I hope that, like [1:17:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: You you can call [1:17:18] Coinkong @coinkong: it bag working for me because I still have a 110. [1:17:21] Moni @monitalan: I don't I don't know how I feel about this. Like, I often see t... Sort of, like, community teams, CTO projects, and I just feel like whatever energy that they put... It's really difficult to turn momentum around than to create it from the start. So I'm just like, why don't you guys just go and build something yourself? Like, why CTO something? [1:17:38] Coinkong @coinkong: Yeah. We're actually hashing a few few things out, and we're actually talking about... I I think the main difference for me is that there are, like, four or five actual people in the community that have deep pockets that have multiple businesses that are like, we wanna help you turn this around. You know what I mean? So I completely agree with you in, like, 95% of the time, but I'm also bag biased and telling you that I'm one of the guys that are gonna try to help them out. [1:18:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: So, Cointon, can [1:18:09] Coinkong @coinkong: I ask [1:18:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: you a question in regards to that, right, when you say turn this around, it's an NFT project? What are you turning around? This isn't a business. What are you turning around? [1:18:18] Coinkong @coinkong: But And why? That's that's the thing. Any any any good business in Web three or NFTs has a Web two backing, and the people that are help... Wanna help these guys actually turn around and make it a business are all Web two founders. And we're all willing to show them the way to get into that side of the business where they can actually attach their NFT to a web two project and it actually be successful. [1:18:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: A business now, I guess, is my question? I believe... [1:18:47] Coinkong @coinkong: Because that's super chill. No. It... It's it's a... It it it was at one point in time, and then it failed horribly. [1:18:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. [1:18:55] Moni @monitalan: What what was the business coin con? [1:18:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can you [1:18:57] Moni @monitalan: tell us what the business was? [1:18:59] Coinkong @coinkong: Like, listen. The the business was supposed to be Shan's whole 10ยข redacted token thing. Who? Was that English? You know, that that that obviously didn't go down the way it was supposed to. So it's it's being pivoted, but I'm actually hopeful for it. I'm not I'm not saying hey to the moon, but what I am saying is, like, there are a bunch of guys that actually do give a shit and and want to help out the community. [1:19:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: So I like that. [1:19:24] Coinkong @coinkong: We're just trying [1:19:24] Voice L: to do [1:19:24] Coinkong @coinkong: what we can. [1:19:26] Moni @monitalan: I'm sorry, Dave. Yeah. No. I hope it works out for you because I know, like, you're a holder. But... Yeah. I mean, redacted, what was that for? Like, why did that token exist? All I saw from that was that degenerate flight to, I don't know, Dubai to Singapore, I think it was, when they launched. [1:19:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was a token? [1:19:44] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. He he launched a token, and, like, that was, like, an afterthought. It was like, oh, I've launched an NFT project, my hundredth one now, and what am I gonna do with it? Okay. Let's just create a token and airdrop it to the holders, and that's the utility. And then, [1:19:58] Coinkong @coinkong: Which wasn't that... Which didn't actually get dropped to most of the holders because Exactly. As a as a presale buyer of a $100 of that token, I'm telling you, I'm... I was down there. [1:20:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: What world, bro? In what were... Oh my. You must have some. Your food must be delicious. I will tell you that right. People must be lining up outside for you to spend a 100,000 on a Jirasan presale. This boy is... Guys. [1:20:26] Moni @monitalan: Why... I... I'm curious, Kun Kong, like, what... Why did you... So this is, like, part of DYOR. What DYOR did you do that had you believing enough and rejected to put a 100 k in? Like, what did you think this token was [1:20:38] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: going to be? [1:20:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: A flight. [1:20:39] Coinkong @coinkong: So so the peep... The... So the people that got so the people that got the staffs and the safes to actually sign got a whole workbook of actually tokenomics and business plans and stuff like that. And on paper, it all actually looked really good. It just was not executed. It was just wasn't executed by by someone [1:21:02] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: that he wanted to would crawl, then he'd make a decision. [1:21:06] Moni @monitalan: I mean I mean, the founder was, what, posting a video, like, the day after launch of him buying a Porsche or his dad buying him a Porsche. Well, it was it was him buying a Porsche. And then when we commented on it, like, good to see you doing great things in the space, he was like, oh, I didn't spend anyone's money. My dad bought me Porsche. And I was like, okay. [1:21:25] Voice J: I love that. [1:21:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's in my fault. [1:21:27] ROYAL @web3Royal_: It's my team. [1:21:28] Coinkong @coinkong: It's my agree with you. Like, DocNooNoo, one of the reasons I I really love you is because you're just like me. I totally a 100% agree with everything you're saying. And, you know, high... Like, hindsight. Right? Like, looking back at it, I'm going, what the fuck was I thinking? Like, I'm such an idiot. You know what I'm saying? [1:21:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like Yeah. Yes. [1:21:46] Moni @monitalan: You are. Were you involved were you involved in Gojira before it became Jirasan? [1:21:52] Coinkong @coinkong: I actually was. Yes. Because I was a I was a Solana NFT and token caller back in, like, the first... With the 2223 area. I don't remember. Do you remember Project Whitelist? It was like they're... Yeah. So I was one of the whales and one of their one of their callers. So, you know, I got whitelist to everything, and, you know, that's that's how I got involved. And then I did a tama that obviously rugged... Got that. It was a caller there, PG, and then, like, two or three other places I was I was an alpha caller for him. So, yeah, that's... That was [1:22:29] Moni @monitalan: that was out. Yeah. Just to give people context in case they don't know what we're talking about. I mean, Gajira was, like, an OG collection, and there was, like, a lot of rumors that it was just, like... It... I think the floor was around 5 ETH before it turned into Jirasan. And there were a lot of rumors that, essentially, it was the founder and his cousins that just bought the whole collection and, like, put the floor where it was at. And then he decided to, like, basically make it more liquid by turning Gajira into a bigger supply Jirasan, where anyone who held this 5 ETH Gajira would get, I believe, 10 Gira Sans for each one they held or something like that. So the Gajira project was then sunsetted and turned into Gira Sans, which just went to zero. So you went from 5 ETH to zero, basically. [1:23:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that. That's tokenomics, baby. Like, I mean, that's what I'm talking... Guys, wait. What? This is news to me. An insider job in crypto? Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Are you saying that the people saying all of this crazy stuff don't have my best interests at heart? Is that what I'm hearing? [1:23:39] Moni @monitalan: No. No. [1:23:40] Coinkong @coinkong: No. You know what the craziest thing is is that it isn't even... It wasn't even Shan's project to to sign over. He doesn't even [1:23:47] Moni @monitalan: He was he was he was a He was a log in the project, wasn't he? [1:23:51] Coinkong @coinkong: He doesn't he doesn't even have all the authority to sign over the wallets. We had to bully Jamie we had to bully Jamie into giving us all of [1:23:59] Voice F: the [1:23:59] Coinkong @coinkong: wallet and signature fucking shit through everything to actually get everything moved over, which hasn't happened, but it's supposed... It just got kinda agreed upon this, like, last week. So we're hoping sometime within the next two to three weeks, everything gets up and signed over to us. [1:24:16] Moni @monitalan: He actually launched a lot of collections before... Like, between Gajira and Jirasan. Like, I think there was, like, Jiravoxels and Jiravthis and Jiravthat, and, like, they were all rugs as well. And, you know, when peep... People were asking him, like, what about this? And he's like, oh, yeah. You don't get any allocation. You only get allocation if you hold, like, the big Gajiras. And he just rugged all the all the other little ones. [1:24:38] Coinkong @coinkong: They just went for the... What... Whatever was really going on. Because, the Voxels were supposed to be for the metaverse. Well, we all see all that one. Every... Anybody that ran... That launched a a metaverse project for the most part rugged. You know what saying? Like, it's like everybody. [1:24:50] Moni @monitalan: But for me, like, I... Sean was on my watch list, my wanted list as in for the wrong reasons, like, really early on, I think in 2223, because there was a project... I don't know if you remember last Hopium, which was set up by this, like, rich Emirati called Hapdur. He owned... Like, he was the son of the Hapdur group owner and, like, heir to all the hotels in The Middle East. And he launched a collection that were, like, keys. And then Dan started, like, shilling this to the Gujira holders, and there was some funniness going on about how, like, if you burn your 5 eth Gujira, you will get a golden key and be able to stay, like, at any of those hotels. And then I later found out from Hapdur, because he was in my DMs asking me to help him show his project, that him and Sean were friends from, like, thirteen years ago. And, like, Sean never disclosed this. He just made out he was he was bullish on this project and tried to, like, convince his holders to get on board. But there was, like, no transparency as to, you know, the real reason he was trying to help his friend more than anything. But that was shady as hell for me, so I believed all the other rumors about him and his cousins off the back back of that. [1:25:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Was the guy But [1:25:59] Moni @monitalan: this is doing your own research. [1:26:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was the guy rich? Yeah. Was the guy rich [1:26:02] Moni @monitalan: at the end? Yeah. Yeah. [1:26:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, the gold... [1:26:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: He was rich. He [1:26:05] Coinkong @coinkong: was rich before NFTs, but [1:26:07] Moni @monitalan: he was rich before his [1:26:08] Coinkong @coinkong: his family was rich before NFTs. But, yeah, like, it didn't make any better the shit he was doing around around the time. [1:26:14] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. His mint his mint actually failed complete... Like, it didn't mint out. I think he tried to charge some ridiculous plot price, like, I think it was 0.3 Ethereum or something. And he was one of these, like... I can say this because I'm of Arab origin, but he was, like, one of these Arab egos thinking that he's, like, this big shake and, like, everybody should just bow down to him. So, like, yeah, he tried to get, like, I remember psychedelic anonymous people on board, and because they weren't having it, he was like, fuck them. They don't deserve me kind of thing through the massive ego that he has. [1:26:44] Coinkong @coinkong: He's like he's like my industry salt bae. You know what I mean? The guy who's cooking salt and things. [1:26:49] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. Yeah. [1:26:49] Kool @koolcryptovc: Oh, who doesn't [1:26:50] Moni @monitalan: want Yeah. He's he's already rich. [1:26:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Who doesn't want a goal... A steak wrapped in gold tinfoil, dude, with a, like, random dude with sunglasses and a white T shirt sprinkling salt out of his crusty hands? Come on. [1:27:02] Coinkong @coinkong: Onto his sweaty elbow onto the food Yeah. [1:27:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You all loved it. You all ate it up. Natalie, they ate it up. They ate up the steak and the content. [1:27:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's disgusting. [1:27:14] Coinkong @coinkong: Nat Nat Nat's not saying anything because she's like, fuck. I had that steak. [1:27:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: I feel like we were [1:27:20] Moni @monitalan: just talking about redacted airway or redacted airline or whatever that shit was. I feel like that's a good segue into the American Airlines story now. What do you think? [1:27:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Is it [1:27:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it though? Okay. I will report this story because the chances of Natalie No. [1:27:35] Coinkong @coinkong: No. I wanna hear this story come out [1:27:37] Moni @monitalan: of Nat [1:27:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat's mouth. You won't. You never will. It would... It's an impossibility. It's not even... Because you won't even comment, or there'll be a funny joke... Dad joke somewhere in there. Let me read you the actual headline. An American Airlines passenger, as I move the phone away from my face because I'm old now and I can't see close to my eyes, an American Airlines passenger was allegedly caught masturbating on a flight with her legs pressed against the plane window. Now I have not opened the article yet. I do not know what it entails. I do not know how this whole thing was set up. Am I intrigued? Probably. Yes. A little bit. Is there video? Is there video was also top of my list. Good question. We will we will... I mean, I'm sure it's just eyewitnesses. You know? Well, he said, she said stuff. [1:28:31] Coinkong @coinkong: But Every... Everybody's got a phone these days. I'm I'm sure there's gotta be be something out there. It's Like, do you [1:28:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: think she just, like, laid out on the chair... On the seat, both feet up on the paint, like, on the window, and just was, like, badge out, just, like, you know, dirty DJ ing it the whole, like, the whole time? Or do [1:28:48] Moni @monitalan: you They didn't even say her feet. They said her legs were on the window. So how does that work? [1:28:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, bad choice of words. If you're gonna be a journalist, like, be a journalist. Like, give us, like... Describe more of a picture. You know I mean? Her legs. Was she a nub? Does she not have feet? You know? [1:29:02] Moni @monitalan: Yeah. The comments the comments under that are hilarious. They're like, that is atrocious. Where do we see the video? [1:29:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Video or it didn't happen. Milo, you thought you were retard? You got competition, boy. [1:29:17] Milo @0dteSPY: No. Don't know. Is this new new, or is this, like, old new? [1:29:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Because Did [1:29:22] Moni @monitalan: you say new new? [1:29:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Did you say new new? [1:29:23] Milo @0dteSPY: Not that new new. [1:29:24] Kool @koolcryptovc: New new? But is [1:29:25] Moni @monitalan: It definitely wasn't me. I was not old. New new. [1:29:30] Milo @0dteSPY: Right? So there was one of these incidents recently, and the person obviously had mental health issues, and they were quite old. So be careful what you wish for. [1:29:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Right? Because we're all picturing, like, some stunner of a female. Right? Legs up being like, ah. Ah. Ah. And I'm like, I wish I could be sitting right in in the seat next to it, right, just to be, like, observing and making sure she's good if she needed water or snacks or peanuts or whatever. But at the end of the day, an old person, like me old, Nobody wants to see me doing that on a plane. Nobody. Nobody. [1:30:06] Coinkong @coinkong: I didn't think she looked that good. They said she was in cabin, so I didn't... You know? [1:30:10] Moni @monitalan: Oh, I heard it was the JPMorgan executive. [1:30:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: My little brown boy. That... That's crazy. [1:30:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. No new wins the freaking one liner. Freaking one liner of the day. Natalie, what say you about this whole situation? [1:30:31] Moni @monitalan: Nat, you should tell them what you said in the chats, word for word. Why is America so... What? [1:30:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: I didn't say America. I said everyone. [1:30:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why is every... What... Did you just did you just, like, make Nat try and shame us as her American colleagues? You as an English tea sipping spot of tea. I don't even know the word. I can't even come up with one right now on the spot. What's a what's a dig at an... At a at a Brit, like an... Like an English person? Franks and beans? No. No. Not Franks and beans. Bangers and mash. You gave us Russell Brand.... [1:31:12] Moni @monitalan: Boring. But The UK is just boring. You have nothing on us. [1:31:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's true. [1:31:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: We just get [1:31:16] Moni @monitalan: to sleep at, like, 6PM. [1:31:17] Milo @0dteSPY: Boo. Boo. Boo. [1:31:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not the end. [1:31:21] Moni @monitalan: Isn't that right, the end? [1:31:23] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. [1:31:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's like, I'm already three sheets of the freaking wind right now. What are you? Crazy? 100%. [1:31:30] Voice L: Yeah. I'm I'm tired. [1:31:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: It's been a little... I've been at a take day all day and then [1:31:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: the woman was 46 and [1:31:38] Milo @0dteSPY: this is in September. You can Google her. I don't think you'd be impressed, but maybe you are. Maybe it's your [1:31:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: I just love how we're talking. We're we're talking about this, and the puppet just shows up out of nowhere. [1:31:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, bro. Welcome to the MILF conversation. Apparently, MILFs are now figuring themselves on American Airlines flights with legs pressed up against windows. What say you, puppet? [1:31:59] Moni @monitalan: Wait. Davis, you said? [1:32:01] Voice H: Semida. You know what's funny about that is... Hello, everyone. Nat Nat is the one that brought that story to my attention. The 25 year old... [1:32:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Husbands and wives do [1:32:12] Voice H: that Well, for one look, I mean, it's... It is the fourth turning. We have to bring everything to the absolute extreme in everything that we do as humans and societies. So expect more of this. And, Dave, I know that you regret not booking that flight, but maybe next time, you'll just roll with it and book the flight. [1:32:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: You always think something like this would happen in... I'm with CoinCon. Right? I always think something like this would happen in first class or business class. Right? One day, we will share our funny plane story or, like, our most interesting plane stories. Also, I I don't wanna hear if you joined the My High Club. If you did, you're an idiot. I don't know how sex on an airplane is at all enticing to anyone, like, ever. [1:32:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: With the dirty water in the bathroom? The thing that's [1:33:01] Voice H: on the phone? No. [1:33:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Just no. No all around. [1:33:05] Voice H: Private. Wow. [1:33:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: But you That is Have y'all done y'all have done some freakies that, like, when you've... Like, whether with a stranger or your significant other, like, hand under the blanket act. No. Nothing? You guys have never never, No. I am [1:33:20] Voice H: I am a buttoned up puppet. [1:33:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. Milo, you have... You freaking degenerate. Tell me. [1:33:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't start like that. [1:33:28] Milo @0dteSPY: So... Yeah. So there are certain charter flights that are flown with tower air. And when you're coming out of the desert, you know, sometimes you get placed in a certain area and you end up sitting next to some female soldiers, and it seems like a good idea at the time. [1:33:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: I like that. You yourself being a soldier were placed near [1:33:57] Milo @0dteSPY: Me, myself being a soldier after a very long deployment and returning home, sometimes these things seem like a good idea. [1:34:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: There's so much innuendo here. Oh my god. Long soldier [1:34:12] Voice H: because he really emphasized coming. [1:34:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. See, nobody needed to [1:34:20] Voice H: Oh, I'm sorry. Was that too explicit for you? [1:34:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. He was saying [1:34:24] Voice H: that he was coming home. [1:34:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: There was no [1:34:26] Milo @0dteSPY: You're on baggage detail. You start talking to the people you're on baggage detail with. Things start going well. [1:34:34] Kool @koolcryptovc: One thing needs to get in place [1:34:36] Milo @0dteSPY: next to each other on the flight. You know, seems like a good idea at the time. I mean, what's the worst thing that happens. Right? [1:34:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: A handy? [1:34:46] Moni @monitalan: Are you are are you allowed to tell us this, Milo? Like, I feel like we're not gonna see you again after today. [1:34:52] Voice H: He's he's been out for a while. [1:34:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. He's definitely in the backyard pounding some of these drinks that he always talks about for sure. [1:35:00] Milo @0dteSPY: I haven't had a drink [1:35:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh, in [1:35:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: congrats or I'm sorry? [1:35:07] Milo @0dteSPY: No. So I I... I'll just share. I lost 30 pounds in the last year and a half. [1:35:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. [1:35:15] Milo @0dteSPY: And a lot of it has to do with not drinking so much. [1:35:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that. You know why? Because this GLP one is an epidemic out here, bro. These doctors prescribing GLP ones to everybody. This is insane. You know? Good for you, Milo. Good for you, bro. Love that. [1:35:35] Milo @0dteSPY: Love And I'm gonna do a bunch of steroids and have a lot of fun. [1:35:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let's go. By the way, as a side note to steroids, I know this is squirrel moment, but if you guys don't watch the show Platonic on Apple TV, it's Seth Rogen and Roseburn. It's the funniest show ever. And... Yeah. Anyways, just go watch it. It... It'll make sense at some point. Great show. Great show. Also, go sign up for a best account using mine and Natalie's link at the top here. Okay? Nat, I think we're... I think I'm gonna get Claude to create this whole competition. We'll get people to register on the form. I got the Grock bots cooking now so they can talk to people on the timeline. You know what I mean? I think we can we can do this. The question is, people could be like, what do I win? Where's my money? Right? After everybody tonight. Right? It's like, where's my money? God forbid. There's bragging rights, and you sure you learn it. Somebody get these beggars out of here. Exactly. [1:36:30] Moni @monitalan: Abstract XP. You can give them abstract XP for when anything [1:36:33] Voice F: Yeah. [1:36:34] Voice J: Say, give them abstract XP, Doug. Yeah. [1:36:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. [1:36:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, you guys will get abstract XP, not just any abstract XP. Abstract XP that was sitting in Luca Netz's wallet. How does XP sit in a wallet? Exactly. [1:36:50] Voice J: Yeah. I... I'd rather have Luca Netz Luca Netz himself kick me swiftly in my testicles. [1:36:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: How about that? That's good. I appreciate you saying the word testicles and not the other one. The medical term is acceptable per all these rules. That's just fine. That would not Are [1:37:05] Voice H: you telling me that I'm not gonna get a piece of all those abstract network fees? Oh, wait. Wait. Never mind. [1:37:12] Voice J: I I I was told I was told $2,030,000,000,000 home run. $2,030,000,000,000 home run. Thank you, LucaNet. [1:37:17] Kool @koolcryptovc: Are [1:37:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: you are you a streamer, though? Because we need streamers. No. No. Do stream. [1:37:22] Voice J: No. Oh. No. [1:37:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You don't stream. You don't do streams. [1:37:25] Voice J: No. No. I do I do x spaces, and that's that's dealing with with monkeys... Enough monkeys. Okay? I don't know. I I don't... I have enough patience for x spaces. I do not have enough patience for streaming. [1:37:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I... Well, I stream and if press hard [1:37:37] Voice H: enough, you can split the stream. [1:37:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's funny. That was actually kinda funny. That was kinda funny. That [1:37:44] Moni @monitalan: was kinda funny. Luca didn't actually lie to you guys. He did say in one of his videos that Abstract will not launch until we are the second most used blockchain of all blockchains or some shit in one of his videos. And, like, he knew that's never gonna happen. We knew that's never gonna happen. [1:37:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: We will... [1:38:00] Moni @monitalan: He he was honest. [1:38:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: We will not launch until we figure out one use case. And I guess you have your answer. There it is right in front of your faces, ladies and gentlemen. There it is [1:38:13] Voice J: for usefulness out of abstract. [1:38:15] Voice H: Know how much, abstract XP farming I was doing? [1:38:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Godlandy. Here. [1:38:21] Voice H: Hold on. Let me go... Oh oh oh. [1:38:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: There it goes. [1:38:24] Voice H: Nothing. None. Nothing. None. Hey. One thing that I had... That I didn't get into that died. [1:38:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. [1:38:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't know. [1:38:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: I had I had a bunch of my I had [1:38:34] Voice J: a bunch of my friends shilling me abstract, and I I went and took one look over at abstract, And I was like, this is BS. This is horse fucking. Were they penguins? No. No. They weren't penguins, actually. They weren't those godforsaken penguin [1:38:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Penguin. [1:38:48] Voice J: Wiki. Were they [1:38:49] Moni @monitalan: 19 year old streamers? [1:38:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. [1:38:51] Voice J: No. Oh, no. No. No. No. The... These were these were people from base. They And were like, oh, you don't understand. Abstract is gonna be the next piece of gold. And I took one look at that and went, you are lying to me. You're either lying to me or you're stupid. I can't figure out which Who's [1:39:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: the who's the guy in spaces that goes around... What's his name again? Used He to come on recess. He goes around. He's like, I'm the official DJ for for Luca Nets and Pudgy Penguins. And I'm like What? What? Wait. What? He's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Like, I DJ the part... Like, g... Like, I'm the official DJ. What's it? [1:39:19] Voice H: That's that's literally... His name is DJ. [1:39:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: DJ what? No. No. It's a there's a name. [1:39:24] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Oh my god. [1:39:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it DJ Dave? Somewhere in [1:39:26] Voice J: DJ's No. No. [1:39:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: I made that shit up. I think I might have called him DJ Dave once, and he was upset about that. But, yeah, he's like, I [1:39:32] Voice J: Well, I hope Luca I hope Luca's paying that dude fans because goodness. [1:39:37] Voice H: Paid for his events. No. When he when he played, they they paid. [1:39:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. That's good. [1:39:41] Coinkong @coinkong: You know? I mean, I [1:39:42] Voice H: don't know how much, but definitely paid. [1:39:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Weed and stuff. [1:39:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why aren't you the official DJ of ATC? I don't understand. Who wants to be the Oh, mine was [1:39:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: the last [1:39:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: for her. Like, what the hell? Like, we need [1:39:52] Voice J: Damn it. You guys got me distracted. The whole reason I came up here is because I'm tell... I was gonna say to Milo, dude, good on you about losing the weight. My husband did the same thing. Stopped drinking completely, and he lost, like, 40, 50, 60 pounds. It's crazy. Yeah. I stopped drinking so much. My skin is better. I feel bet... Dude, stop drinking so much, people. Drink water. Damn it. That sounded hella gay [1:40:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: when you said it like that. Like, my skin feels so much better. I don't know what [1:40:19] Voice J: I got... Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. I... You you may not care about your skin, but I care about my skin. [1:40:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I care about your skin, Chroma. I look at you in your PFP, and I'm like, I feel for you. I look at your complexion, and I'm like, [1:40:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: that's the right now. [1:40:35] Voice H: Chroma, I have so many good jokes that are so inappropriate. But, look. When you stop drinking, it... Not only does it help your skin and everything else and your overall health, but also if you were a beer or or carbonated beverage enjoyer, you don't fart as much. [1:40:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: See? Like, the word fart has no place on the space. Like, it just doesn't. You know what I mean? [1:40:59] Voice H: I was just trying to find a way to fit in fart. I've been wanting to say fart for a while on a space, and I just have my ability to [1:41:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: You you are you are a 12 year old child, man. [1:41:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Got really close on the we got really close on the space earlier today with Nat Gas. Pretty cool. [1:41:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm I'm I'm... I've been trying... [1:41:15] Voice J: Nat Nat, I've been doing... I've been really biting my tongue tonight. I came up to space. [1:41:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: I was [1:41:19] Voice J: like, be a good boy. [1:41:20] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: Did you [1:41:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: say Natgas as in you? Like, Natgas? [1:41:24] Voice J: No. I said Natgas. Nat [1:41:26] Voice H: gas. Gas is what Nat said. [1:41:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: I've been waiting to drop Nat gas forever. [1:41:30] Voice H: I've been waiting to drop Nat [1:41:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: gas for so long. [1:41:33] Voice H: Natural, and it is gas. So she was making reference to the fact that I brought up Nat gas without shoving a fart [1:41:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: in everyone's what we're saying. You're saying nat gas. Nat gas? [1:41:45] Voice H: Yeah. [1:41:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat gas. Mhmm. Got it. Okay. Yeah. No. No. Go ahead. [1:41:50] Moni @monitalan: As the only person who is medically qualified on this stage, I say drink more and take GLP ones. [1:41:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ridiculous. You see what I'm talking about? This is the medicine, modern medicine, ladies and gentlemen. They do [1:42:00] Voice H: not medical advice. [1:42:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Your best interest at heart. [1:42:03] Voice H: Drink GLP ones. Going to go buy a bunch of Voodoo Rangers and, go to the doctor, get some GLP ones. [1:42:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nice. Let's go. [1:42:11] Voice H: What should I do? [1:42:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Do... No. Do them at the same time. Right? No. No. [1:42:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. [1:42:15] Voice H: Should I boof it? Should I boof both? [1:42:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You take the shot of GLP one. You put some Red Bull in it, and then you just freaking down it real quick. You know what I mean? Alpha Gamer's here. Gamer, what's up, man? How's it looking in the bay? [1:42:30] Voice L: Yo. What's up, everyone? It's a beautiful day in the bay. Nice and sunny out here. And I just had to come up because as, you know, Landy has told everyone, we're at the bottom of the cycle. And Wait. Wait. Will my fartcoin go up? [1:42:45] Coinkong @coinkong: You know? Landy's like, woah. Hold on. [1:42:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Fartcoin. What happened to Fartcoin, man? [1:42:50] Voice H: Fartcoin? Yeah. Fartcoin rips, man. [1:42:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: What was his name? [1:42:53] Voice J: On air [1:42:53] Voice L: riots, sir. Fartcoin rips. Man, that thing ripped into the billions. You know? Is is it gonna make a comeback? [1:43:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. Kook [1:43:02] Voice H: took the second told me [1:43:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: it was gonna be a billion dollar token. What the hell? [1:43:06] Voice J: No. Don't listen to Kook. Don't listen to him. Jesus god almighty, please. Alright. Holy god, bro. Dude is wrong. Dude is wrong, bro. He he he he he he gathers his little followers and just rakes them over the coals, dude. [1:43:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Yeah. No. No. Not Kook, bro. Like, I Bro. Easy easy, Chroma. Like, I would [1:43:28] Voice L: So no to fartcoin? [1:43:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No to fartcoin? [1:43:31] Voice J: Yes to fartcoin. No to kook, bro. [1:43:33] Voice H: Fart... The the fart will return. [1:43:35] Voice J: The fart will absolutely return, bro. When Bitcoin rips, fartcoin's gonna go absolute bananas. Uh-huh. [1:43:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: It sounds like fartcoin would [1:43:42] Coinkong @coinkong: blast us. [1:43:43] Voice J: But Yeah. My boy. Won't do it [1:43:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: on blast chain, though. Womp womp womp womp. That blast [1:43:49] Voice H: Fartcoin's got that gas. Alright? It's it's just loading up. [1:43:53] Voice O: That's gas? [1:43:56] Voice H: If I... It's all natural gas. [1:43:58] Moni @monitalan: It's all [1:43:58] Voice J: Hey. Can I can I take my Cybertruck points from BLAST and merge them with my abstract XP and and redeem that for cash value? Can I do that? [1:44:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: You never got a Cybertruck? [1:44:07] Voice J: What the hell? I didn't get the Cybertruck. Where's my Cybertruck, dude? [1:44:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That was my favorite. Wait. [1:44:12] Voice H: You didn't take delivery? [1:44:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. There's certain people that reach out on on on Telegram. They're like, hey, Dave. We wanna work together. We wanna do this and this and this, and we're gonna give away a Tesla. And it's like, are you No. Like, where have you been, bro? How new are you to this game? You're gonna give away a Tesla or the cash value. What? Yeah. I was about to say, like contest? [1:44:33] Voice J: Like like, just give me a Bitcoin. Like, a Bitcoin is worth more than a Tesla at this point. You're [1:44:37] ROYAL @web3Royal_: like, jeez. [1:44:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Give a DGN something they don't own. [1:44:40] Voice J: Bitcoin. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Give give something... Give people somebody they don't already own and that's not already just, like, you know, $26. I [1:44:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't know. Yeah. Exactly. Teslas are so cheap now. Good stuff. Natalie, any other... Do we have any other funny stories? Wait. Wait. Hold on. [1:44:57] Voice J: Let me go through... [1:44:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Any... Anything anything [1:45:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's... No. That was the that was the only one, thankfully. Thank god. [1:45:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. I mean, I felt like that was a great one. I'm just saying. [1:45:10] Voice H: I have really depressing stories. No. No. In the chat. No. It's just horrifying. [1:45:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. You're talking politics in the chat, bro. Like, [1:45:18] Voice H: you're No. [1:45:18] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: No. No. [1:45:19] Voice H: It's just not political. [1:45:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're going on it. So it's not political. [1:45:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. So he had... He just had evidence about, you know, him and I being a signal. Not gonna say what the signal is, but we were a signal. [1:45:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Why? Why wouldn't you be... Why wouldn't you tell us what you're the signal for? Is it what end the day? [1:45:34] Voice L: Double bottom signal? Was it a double bottom signal? [1:45:36] Voice H: Hey. Hey, alpha gamer. Do you remember what happened to Infophy? [1:45:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: You were a top signal. Wait. What are you top signal [1:45:42] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: for now? [1:45:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. What happened? What happened? [1:45:46] Voice L: No. No. [1:45:47] Voice H: Uh-oh. So Nat and I got pretty involved in Robinhood chain, and now everything is selling off really aggressively. And it just so happens to coincide with when Nat and I re upped and doubled down on some of the... [1:46:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: We were all cooked from the minute we heard her say 10,000 ways to die. And we were all like, [1:46:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: oh my god. [1:46:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: And I [1:46:09] Voice J: was like, why are you [1:46:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: buying this? And her response said it all. Why not? [1:46:15] Voice H: Look. This [1:46:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: is all Yikes. A tax [1:46:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yikes. Plus [1:46:18] Voice H: harvesting strategy. [1:46:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's exactly what it is. [1:46:21] Voice H: How you do it. [1:46:22] Voice J: Yeah. You got a lot. You got [1:46:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: a lost harvest from someone. Harvest. It's not worth to click on the OpenSea page. Do you understand? Like, what are we talking hard tax harvesting? [1:46:32] Voice O: What are you gonna tax [1:46:33] Voice H: tax harvesting. You gotta take the loss from somewhere. [1:46:36] Voice L: You guys are playing with me points, and I thought it a lot risky. [1:46:39] Voice H: I'm not I'm not I'm not playing with these positions that I'm holding longer term. Why would I tax loss harvest those? Those have upside. [1:46:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, they have to be worth something in order to harvest something from it is what I'm saying. There has to be [1:46:52] Voice H: some sort of value. I am spending down. It's called spending down the balance sheet. [1:46:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's exactly what it is. [1:47:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. Spending down the balance sheet. You gotta spend money [1:47:03] Voice J: to make money, dude. Come on. [1:47:04] Voice L: The other... I've been looking at the other altcoins, actually. For example, NRR. Altcoins. You guys [1:47:12] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: already talked about that? NRR. [1:47:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can tell Is that perfect. Let's hear it. What do you got? [1:47:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: So we did touch on the the nuclear stuff, and Milo also put some sticker... A ticker No. [1:47:22] Voice L: No. It's not nuclear. [1:47:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: A token. He said that. He said this is a coin. [1:47:25] Voice L: Oh. It's the... No. It's not nuclear. It's it's the Bitwise Near ETF, and that's why Near went up, like, 500%. [1:47:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. [1:47:34] Voice L: So Yeah. The ticker is... Yeah. It's NRR for the for the trash bag. [1:47:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: A problem, though. The the... That whole NearIntense thing is, like, a big, big, like, security vector just from what I saw on the timeline and from what, you know, Koma told us as well. Right? Like, I'm telling you, man. Like, this near... I don't know how it works or or, like [1:47:55] Voice H: Who could have predicted that? [1:47:57] Voice J: Who... I was about to say, who could have thunk? Who could have thunk? [1:48:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I genuinely still don't know. I feel for coma, obviously, but then I saw some guy in the timeline get fleeced for, like, a crazy 7 figure number. I was like, woah. Not good. [1:48:10] Voice H: It's it's it's interesting because, we've been... I... I've personally had some run ins with some folks from Near that, not big fans of me for my take about some of that. So, when it was not popular to be calling out some of that stuff, and we're going back a couple years ago on this stage, by the way. [1:48:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. So... Yeah. You know? Is that the same time? [1:48:37] Voice H: Just like when everybody was excited about abstract and everybody And people were [1:48:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: throwing tomatoes at alpha gamer. [1:48:43] Voice L: Don't forget Monad. Don't forget Monad. [1:48:46] Voice H: Monad. Hey. How's, how's Mega Eath doing? [1:48:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Soon. Every every day, I toast Malone. Don't worry about that. [1:48:54] Voice J: Dude, we are thinking... Hey, Blandy. Speak... Speaking of, Mega, did you see that they were like... One of the devs was like, oh, we're not gonna be attending token twenty forty nine because we're busy building on our chain. I was like, building what? It doesn't exist. I was like, there's nothing there. [1:49:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm sorry. What that means? They ain't got the budget to do it. [1:49:15] Voice H: You have to go look at all that volume. [1:49:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean Oh, yeah. The volume. I mean, the volume guys Yeah. [1:49:20] Voice J: Shane Copeland taught him [1:49:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: a thing or two about volume, guys. We need you farming. You understand? Put your hard earned money into this, and then we can fly [1:49:28] Yemi ๐ข โป๏ธ ๐ @Yemihq: I need more. Of farming. [1:49:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: More and then see women with their legs up on windows masturbating. [1:49:35] Voice H: Dave, I need more points. More leaderboard. [1:49:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: More points. Love points. We love points. [1:49:41] Voice H: We are big fans of points over here. [1:49:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know what's crazy also? This is another lesson in crypto. If you make people wait long enough, they forget. And guess what you get to do with the money that they were supposed to get for putting onto either your chain or into your protocol? You put it in your treasury. Man, shout out to freaking [1:50:03] Coinkong @coinkong: That's why [1:50:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have [1:50:04] Voice L: go back a crime you just admitted to. [1:50:06] Voice J: No. This is defy, sir. [1:50:09] Voice H: There's no crimes here. [1:50:11] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: No. He [1:50:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: said the heist is the heist. There is no crime here. You heard us say? He says there's no, hey. You did not see what you think you saw here. Okay? There is no crime yet. So turn your ass around. [1:50:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Crime and crypto. What? [1:50:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a m r at. For real. Never, bro. Crime and crypto. [1:50:29] Voice L: We just took your funds and put it into our... Isn't that what... I believe that guy rhymes with SPF. Doom... That's what it's lead in with other people's funds. [1:50:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Slander. I'm innocent. My innocent. My due fro curly bro. You understand? No way. And... No way. [1:50:51] Voice L: Oh, so if he's innocent, then we're bullish on that. [1:50:54] Voice J: No. No. Because Caroline... No. Because Caroline Allison is guilt. She was the brainchild of the operation to SPF. SPF was just a numpty Muppet that was like, yes, ma'am. Okay. He was the picture. He was the brain. He was the poster child. Like, Allison's [1:51:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: alone, Chroma. You leave No. [1:51:11] Voice J: No. No. No. No. Allison's devious, bro. She's devious, man. People think, [1:51:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: oh, she's [1:51:16] Voice J: some... Just some some obscure nerdy girl that doesn't look... No, dude. She's devious. She's evil. [1:51:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I want that. [1:51:23] Voice J: That woman is evil. [1:51:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: That sounds like my type. Let's go. You know what I mean? Like Well Yeah. No. Here's here's what I know I need to do now. [1:51:31] Voice H: I have to go to bible study with Nat at this point after this conversation. Jesus Christ. To repent. [1:51:38] Coinkong @coinkong: Even Jews? Like, this Hey. [1:51:40] Voice J: Hey. Hey. [1:51:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: But not not for everyone, but okay, bro. I got us covered. I got us covered. But, lo, you and the gay thing might [1:51:45] Voice J: Easy, bro. [1:51:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Go ahead, Lend. Sorry. [1:51:51] Voice H: Oh, no. I'm sorry. I need to repent for all of my sins, Unchained. [1:51:54] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Repent for all your sins. See, you guys are lucky. You get to walk into, like, a freaking little pull pull the cart behind you. [1:52:01] Voice L: Landy, doesn't That's totally cool, Gamer. [1:52:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Like, that's awesome. Go ahead. [1:52:05] Voice L: Oh, no. I'm lagging. My bad, Dave. I should Let's [1:52:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: put tomatoes and lettuce at you like we used to do. Remember the good old days, guys, when we used to boo alpha gamer off the stage? Every night [1:52:16] Voice L: I remember that. [1:52:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: We used to look at him. [1:52:18] Voice L: We need [1:52:18] Voice J: to bring back the shaming bell. Where's the shaming bell? [1:52:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Off the stage according to his records and his memory. [1:52:23] Voice H: If you throw tomatoes and lettuce at him, he's gonna throw bacon, lettuce, and tomatoes at you, and you're gonna go running the other way. [1:52:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's true. That's a kosher joke for those [1:52:32] Voice L: of you. That was a very true. Yeah. [1:52:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well played, sir. Well played. That could also apply to [1:52:39] Voice J: my friend. Certified kosher joke right there. That [1:52:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: could also apply to our Arab brethren. So, DocNooNoo, I hope you did not take offense to Landon's bacon tossing. [1:52:49] Voice L: This was [1:52:50] Coinkong @coinkong: aimed at [1:52:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: the Jews. This was aimed at the Jews. Luckily, [1:52:53] Moni @monitalan: I have ADHD, and I just, like, I wasn't listening. [1:52:56] Voice H: It was only it was only aimed in the direction of Dave and Cromwell. [1:52:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Exactly. [1:53:00] Voice L: Hey. Speaking of her, isn't she out of out because she made a deal? [1:53:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. She's out. She's out of prison. She's [1:53:07] Voice J: been out, bro. [1:53:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: She she flipped. Wow. [1:53:09] Voice J: That's why I said she's devious. She's devious, man. She's evil. Listen. [1:53:13] Voice H: So there was a... I [1:53:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: don't know [1:53:14] Voice L: if you heard [1:53:15] Voice H: Alpha Gamer, but there was this woman on a plane who was caught masturbating. [1:53:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Tell me if you heard this one before. Wait. [1:53:23] Voice L: Wait. What?... To a plane. Caroline Ellison was caught on a plane? Wait. What? No. [1:53:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Woah. 100% truth. [1:53:30] Moni @monitalan: On her way to token $20.49. [1:53:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which she couldn't technically afford to pay. [1:53:33] Voice L: A minute. This is hard to believe. It was not. I think you guys are pulling one on me. [1:53:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: After all of the alpha we dropped on the space today, this [1:53:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is what they [1:53:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: were about. [1:53:43] Voice J: Is how this is how it ends. This is how it ends right here. [1:53:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. I I will give... Okay. I'm being I'm being [1:53:48] Voice L: That's so far fetched [1:53:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: right now. [1:53:50] Voice L: I don't think so. [1:53:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you guys can literally... One of you can literally tell me the two stock tickers that Natalie gave out in the beginning of the show, and I know who was here, if you can name those two, I mean, oh, boy. I got something for you. I got something for you. Let me let me hear it. Wait, Nat. Did you put them in the in the comments also? Or is that gonna be... I'm just curious. Do you guys remember the ticker? [1:54:16] Voice H: Is it Nike? [1:54:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. [1:54:17] Voice H: And No. You're out. And and Lulu? [1:54:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nuclear. Can you say nuclear, by the way, Landy? So why do people say nuclear? And I'm like, what... Like, is that a George Bush thing? Nuclear? Nuclear. Yeah. Nuclear. [1:54:28] Voice L: Let's say... Alright. Let me take a guess. If Nat Nat's mentioning nuclear, Oclo Oclo depending on how you say that. [1:54:40] Voice H: We've talked about it. [1:54:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: No. No. [1:54:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Else? I feel like you're you're well equipped for this, this challenge. [1:54:46] Voice L: Well, it'll be... Well, if you're... If it's not Oklo, it can't be l e u because their their... Sentry isn't Right. [1:54:51] Voice J: New era? [1:54:52] Voice L: Connected to... With that one. [1:54:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: New era? Like the caps? [1:54:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Now what were they? I obviously S... [1:55:01] Voice J: There's no... The only other one I know is SMR. [1:55:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: I obviously remember them, Natalie. [1:55:04] Kool @koolcryptovc: What what was it? Coincog? [1:55:09] Voice L: Uh-huh. Yeah. SMR or NNE. [1:55:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Very for... Very familiar. [1:55:13] Voice J: That was about to about to say SNR sounds [1:55:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: today, guys. That was not today. Oh. [1:55:18] Voice H: NNE is really small, actually worth looking into. [1:55:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, NNE. [1:55:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: My I know. I called him. Got it. He put it... He posted it in the comment section. [1:55:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: See, somebody listens to Natalie. We do. [1:55:28] Voice F: Wasn't XE, was it? [1:55:31] Voice H: That wasn't even here. Let me go look at my list. I'm not here. I'm gonna [1:55:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: It was... The the the [1:55:37] Voice J: the the the the just doom scroll all day like you guys. I [1:55:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: wish. I wish. [1:55:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, that's... I gotta [1:55:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: What is... Why is Brian... Hey. I'm sorry, Nat. Meant to be on space, but mom... Oh, fell again. Jesus. Like, I hope... Brian, I hope you're good, bro. Sorry. I should not have read that out loud. I don't know why I said that, but I was just maybe gonna make a joke about the whole Nat, I'm sorry, thing. Why is he apologizing to you? He never apologized to me. [1:56:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Ryan. [1:56:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: He co... He cohosts the Wolf Spaces. Can't even speak in our spaces. Alright, Ryan. I see you. [1:56:12] Voice L: The miners are gonna run, Landy. Pay attention. [1:56:16] Voice I: Mhmm. Mhmm. [1:56:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. That's a... That's creepy as hell, and that clap is for everyone. [1:56:22] Coinkong @coinkong: Who [1:56:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: is that? [1:56:25] Voice H: Get the clap on a plane. [1:56:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Chroma, what are you watching? What am I doing? What are you watching? What's the TV show in the background? [1:56:40] Voice J: Oh, Jesus. My mic was unmuted. I'm so [1:56:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: sorry, guys. You're you're Jewish. You got the wrong guy. It's American Dad. Oh, okay. Got it. No. I meant Jesus, but it's fine. Take us out, Natalie. [1:56:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Great space, guys. We covered a lot. We dove into abstract. Thank you everyone for... That came up as well and gave their opinion and even vented a little bit. Right? We know situations like this isn't easy. While some didn't really have a substantial loss, we know others wasted a lot of times and years on this. Right? But thank you guys for coming up and and and venting. We also spoke about, the deal across nuclear, Vistra, and Constellation Energy. How, and it... We also tied it back to how there's attention and money rotating into that sector, so something to keep an eye on. We spoke about Vest. Dave is going to do... I believe you're going to give Brock the opportunity to come up with a challenge. But, also, guys, as he mentioned, $10 gives gives you 500. Super cheap. We spend more than that on other things. Right? So definitely something to look into. With that being said, guys, we will be back tomorrow on Dave's channel at 05:30PM ESC. You guys have a wonderful, wonderful night. [1:57:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: And the clap is for everyone. Nobody say a word. [1:57:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I'm gonna need everyone [1:57:56] Voice L: to hear. [1:57:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: How does he get through? How does he get through? How? I don't know how that works. Sorry, Natalie.
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