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Episode · Oct 7, 2026 ·

ATC: Perps & Props & Bitcoin price update

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Summary

0:03:23

AI Bitcoin Crack Theory Sparks Debate

Kool and Dave discussed Justin Drake's claim that AI could crack Bitcoin, with Dave saying he would not doubt it and that AI might succeed before quantum computers. NatNat agreed AI has enabled more hacks but said it would not be easy, adding that current market weakness is just a healthy pullback with nothing going up in a straight line.

0:10:55Wells Fargo-Payward (Kraken) liquidity talks, crypto consolidation

0:15:44Hormuz, Brent >$101, 10-year >5.3%, Fed minutes

0:17:22Oil 100, natural gas 3.40, BTC 87.3k/82.8k/74k

0:23:01Dave on prop evaluations and daily loss limits

0:28:32'Free money', closing strength and NQ

Moments0:03:23
0:31:05

Landy Rips AI Resume Lies

Landy described interviewing candidates and encountering many AI-generated resumes full of lies about credentials that are easily checked. He said he rejected most after pressing them and that AI first screens applications but humans still catch the falsehoods. The group then covered the Winklevoss Zcash fund and privacy narrative, with Landy calling the AI Bitcoin crack story unproven theoretical math and mostly fear mongering timed with new privacy launches.

0:44:21Landy debunks the AI/quantum Bitcoin scare

0:56:31

Quantum Narratives and Liquidity Rotation

A speaker introduced the QTC quantum-safe chain on Near with a 21 million supply, prompting jokes about turboencabulator encryption. Landy described ongoing liquidity rotation between energy, bonds, equities, and cash, saying Bitcoin has been a partial beneficiary.

0:56:31BRC-20 'shh'

1:06:20BTC 74-76k structure

1:22:37

Prop Withdrawals and AI Agent News

Dave and Landy discussed prop firm withdrawal practices, with Landy explaining many firms delay or limit payouts to cover future losses while Vest offers instant ones plus self-funded options. NatNat highlighted Coinbase launching AI agent trading on Base for direct USDC execution. The group covered a news roundup including Polymarket's own stablecoin, Alibaba and SUI enabling AI bot payments, OKX's 25B valuation round, Blast and Abstract closing, and CFTC allowing crypto margin trading.

1:28:51Polymarket dollar coin

1:42:09Phoenix (Oculus trade) found dead

Moments1:22:37

Key quotes

“But to be honest, a healthy pullback is a healthy pullback and nothing goes up in a straight”

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“Trillion-dollar banking giant Wells Fargo in talks with Kraken parent pay word to provide”

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“in terms of we need to turn 87.3 into support,”

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“Do a bait and switch and won't even let you withdraw they're like no the terms”

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“Alibaba Cloud and SUI will let AI bots pay for cloud services”

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