ATC: Perps & Props & Bitcoin price update

# ATC: Perps & Props & Bitcoin price update | 2026-10-07 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1RKjpbYdjPoJw | status: approved
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[0:00:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yo, Mustafa. What's up, bro? How you doing, man? Hope you're well, brother. Good to see you or not. Hey. He's back. What's up, man?
[0:00:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up, doc? You can't hear me? You can hear me. Yeah? Good to see you, bro. Good to see you, bro.
[0:00:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Man, I wish I had... I gotta get some music in here, man. It's like, you
[0:00:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: know? Nobody wants to listen to that garbage. Nobody wants to listen to that... Well, hello, DocNooNoo. What's up? Come on up. Cool cryptos in the building. It's like the roll call out here. Like it. I like it. Cool. You gotta get up here, bro. I'm a trader now. And your leverage trading, it's gotta be done doing this. Trust me. This is how you wanna do it. Get your butt up here, sir. Cool.
[0:01:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. You hear me?
[0:01:35] Kool @koolcryptovc: Hey. Yeah. What's up?
[0:01:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: You good? You good. You good?
[0:01:37] Voice D: I hear you. Yeah.
[0:01:39] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. Yeah. We got... We're just cruising, driving to the house. Listen. Everything okay?
[0:01:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Everything's great, bro. Listen. This... I don't know if you had a chance to actually look into this vesting, bro. I think, like, remember how you were trying to teach yourself leverage trading? Bro, what better way to leverage trade than with other people's money? You know what I'm saying? Like, wouldn't you wanna do that? And I think I... It finally clicked for me today where I'm just like, okay. So they make you jump through a few hoops, but at the end of the day, bro, if you spend $35 or $34, right, to essentially get an account that has $10 in it, right, you just have to, like, show them profit. Right? Meaning, like, a thousand bucks. If you make a thousand bucks and then another 500 for the two step one, boom. They give you the... They give you access to the book. And it's like, woah. $34, bro. $34.
[0:02:27] Kool @koolcryptovc: Wow. Yeah. That's that's that's pretty crazy.
[0:02:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro. The DJMs will probably love it because they're gonna just fucking full port 50 x leverage into whatever, hoping a dream. You know? But
[0:02:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah.
[0:02:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's interesting, bro. Interesting. But I know you got a... You're on daddy time with the kids in tennis now. You even... You know, you're not even trading anymore, are you?
[0:02:50] Kool @koolcryptovc: You know, it's been a bit, though. I I think tennis season started. My son made varsity as a freshman, and my daughter... I say, it's it's pretty nuts, man. I'm I'm coaching them too. It's it's pretty crazy, but I think tennis season ends in another week, then that... That's gonna free up my schedule a little bit, then, I should be back fully, though. Yeah. After, like,
[0:03:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: a week. Nice. Nice. Nice. Alright. Good shit. Good stuff. Natalie, you're late. You're efficient on probation. We will not be letting you up anymore. So
[0:03:23] Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. I saw I saw the I saw the, man, about Bitcoin. Do you guys saw... See that from Justin Drake? No.
[0:03:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: You did not. No. What did
[0:03:31] Voice D: he say?
[0:03:32] Kool @koolcryptovc: Bitcoin being hacked or some crazy AIs. Some stupid shit. Right?
[0:03:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean
[0:03:37] Kool @koolcryptovc: Literally, bro. It's always funny because every time every time they do
[0:03:40] Kool @koolcryptovc: this, it's always when the mark... The the the mark... The market's down. They never do this when, you know, things are ripping. Right? It's very interesting.
[0:03:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, look. At the end of the day, like, I I don't think that that's so far fetched. Right? Like, I wouldn't doubt if an AI... Like, somebody says, hey. An AI is now able to crack Bitcoin because we've been operating under this, like, premise, under this one set of rules that these AIs literally could give two shits about. Like, they're like, you guys lie. You humans hang out over there with your, you know, low level IQs, and thank you for giving me a ridiculous one, and I'm gonna try and figure out how to break this shit. So I wouldn't doubt if an AI would be able to crack Bitcoin before a quantum computer can because I think... I don't think there's any question that a quantum computer can. It's just a matter of how much time. But, yeah, I I I don't know. I guess let's let's talk to the probie. Hey, probation. What's up, Natalie?
[0:04:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: My bad guys. Was it full on mom mode for a few minutes there? Great question. I am with you. There's a lot that AI that AI deaf... Oh, sorry. There's a lot that AI can do, so I wouldn't rule that out. We're seeing how it has been able to hack certain platforms, how it has been able... How it assisted in the increase of hacks we're seeing across the board. Right? See how we've had a core... An an insane amount of hacks within a short pre... Period. Right? Often, it... The reason being AI. So I wouldn't rule out, the possibility of AI being able to hack Bitcoin. Is it something that's easily done? No. I don't think it's something that is that is easily done. But is it probable? I wouldn't rule that out.
[0:05:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. But, I mean, it's not like Bitcoin's down. You know what I mean? Like, when you say market's down cool, like, 83,000. You know what mean? It's kinda, like, leveled off. Like, we're kind of in this, you know, chill mode right now. Let's see... Wait and see what happens kinda deal. Yeah.
[0:05:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do think I do think it's... I think I've I've
[0:05:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm sorry. Are we boring you? No. Can you guys hear me okay? Yeah. Yeah. Are you are you yawning? Did you wake up from a nap?
[0:06:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I didn't yawn. I was trying to breathe. My nose is stuffy.
[0:06:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: What the hell? No. I'm trying to breathe.
[0:06:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm, like, gasping for air right now.
[0:06:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's probably the corset that's literally freaking wrapped around your waist while you're on the treadmill, psycho. Still not taking it off.
[0:06:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go ahead. What were you gonna say? My bad.
[0:06:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: When they... When all the prices are down across the board, there's always gonna be some kind of story as to, like, the reason. But to be honest, a healthy pullback is a healthy pullback, and nothing goes up in a straight line. We're gonna have red days. Right? So I expect more of this because we see it on... We see it in the stock market too. We see people come up with with with excuses as to why q v q was down or why n q was down earlier. In reality, it was... It's been running calm. It it needed to fall back a little bit, and it's now looking like it's ready for the next leg. Right? So let's see.
[0:06:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, I'm... At this point, like, I feel like today was a necessary evil for me, especially, like, with vest... Like, with the prop trading stuff because I genuinely got the hang of it. For whatever reason... Maybe I'll share this with everybody. Like, I don't care. Like, I I was literally retarded because I was just using 10 x leverage for every position. Like, the conviction ones, the ones that I was... Like, that I found. Oh, look who decided to show... What's this? Oh, look who's back, Natalie. Everyone's favorite floppy.
[0:07:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. MV is back. I know. I I hit her up with the DMs earlier.
[0:07:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, snap. I'm just... So one of the... One of her buddy... This guy... Remember this guy, BTC Milk? I was like, What the fuck? Who's this guy coming at DocNooNoo on the timeline also?
[0:07:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, Milk was coming at DocNooNoo on the timeline? Let me find out. Let me call him.
[0:07:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Uh-huh. Exactly. MB, it's good to see your floppy discs.
[0:07:55] SalimFi @Desalimfi: MB, in the house. It's been a while. So you saw you for jacking the bike. I can't Yeah.
[0:08:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're jacking... No. You're not sorry for jacking the mic. Hold on. Oh, snap. Yeah. Let me bring you back up, Celine. But, do me a favor, bro. A little respect. You know what I'm saying? Just a little bit. Like, you know you know, we're just we're just getting the show started. You could chime in you could chime in, raise a hand or something. You know? You're not a regular here. So, you know, a little etiquette. You know what I'm saying? Just a little bit of etiquette. Now, MV. Salim, I'll be with you in one second, sir. MV, I I would ask you questions, but I guess you can't answer. So Well,
[0:08:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: unless unless this summer around, MV wants to speak. MV, do you wanna speak?
[0:08:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Back to you, Dave. And there you had the kids. Yeah. Back to you. Alright. Salim, you're up. What's up, man? How are you? Sup?
[0:08:49] SalimFi @Desalimfi: What's I'm fine, guy. I'm fine. It's been a while. I'm just getting online. I wanted to check some PDFs, and I just saw MV notification. So I decided to join you guys.
[0:09:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, MV. You came in here because of MV. Oh, I see. Like that. MV's got... Still got it. Still got the groupies. Let's go.
[0:09:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: All of this without a voice.
[0:09:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: All of this exactly.
[0:09:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let me find out, MV.
[0:09:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let me find out. Goddamn. What else can you do without a voice is the question. You know what
[0:09:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm saying?
[0:09:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Goddamn. You know, you know... What? Oh. Is she she remixing? It's it's it's... If you're recording this space right now, you really are bored. Please find I was doing IRL stuff. Bitch, you weren't doing shit. You guys chill out IRL stuff as if you have a life like the rest of like the rest of us do. No. None of us do. This is it. We've been forsaken to this for eternity.
[0:09:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know what Selim reminds me of?
[0:09:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's that?
[0:09:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: The song Verb? I like to move it. Move it. I like Oh
[0:10:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: my god. From Zootopia or wherever it is. Yeah. That's good. I like it. Yeah. That's good. Thank you so much. I like how Celine gave us the play by play. Yesterday was therapy. Today's the play by play. He was like, yeah. I came online, wanted to search some p Yes. He came online and wanted to look through some PDFs. Alright. Thank you for the unnecessary info. Now let's get to the stories. What say you, Natalie? Are we down for the stories?
[0:10:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, I think Cool is stuck in in... As a listener. What... Should we bring him back up?
[0:10:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have... I sent him calls.
[0:10:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, okay.
[0:10:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Wait. Does he not see it? Hold on. Yeah. No. Cool is there. Yeah. Whenever whenever you wanna come up. So just come to... Wait. Did he say something in the chat?
[0:10:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. No. Just making sure.
[0:10:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. Okay. Cool, man. Cool. Let me see. What do we got? I I thought that... I love that Monica shared this story. $2,300,000,000,000 banking giant Wells Fargo in talks with Kraken parent, Payward, to provide liquidity for crypto trading. Nat, did you ever think we'd see the day that I'm saying Wells Fargo supplying the liquidity for Kraken in crypto trading? This is a wild story. I don't know the details, but that is crazy stuff. I mean, I love that we've come this far. You know what I mean? Like, this is how it was supposed to work. Right? Like, the big banks got all... They got all your money. Right? They got all our money. Kraken is like the new hope for money for the majority of us. Right? Whether that's, I don't know, IPO or token or ink or whatever. But, obviously, metaphorically, at the end of the day, I hope, you know, we all we all see the bag. But, Matt, you like this? Wells Fargo?
[0:11:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So you know what? I think banks are noticing how much money is rotating into these trading platforms, and they want a piece of the pie. So this arrangement would allow Wells Fargo to access digital asset trading liquidity without needing to build all of the infrastructure itself. The discussion are preliminary and may not result into a deal, but they add to Payward's institutional business and its links to traditional finance. Payward provides liquidity, custody payments, and settlement services and has already agreed to supply Kraken Prime liquidity to SoFi users. Very interesting. But you know what? I think the banks know where to go and how to make money with, with anything that they've seen. So I'm pretty sure it's whether they're making money of fees or most likely fees, transaction fees. I'm pretty sure this is not gonna be the only story that that we see like this. I mean, because we saw... We've seen BlackRock already positioning themselves in crypto right now. We're seeing Wells Fargo positioning themselves in crypto, and I'm pretty sure other banks as well. I believe there was news with Citigroup as well. So the banks, they know where the money is, so they're positioning as well.
[0:13:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Interesting stuff, man. Yeah. I don't... I mean, I guess now it's just a matter of who's gonna partner with who. Right? Because it's like, it doesn't... It wouldn't make sense now for another tier one to go to Kraken or Payward. Right? And say, hey. We wanna provide liquidity. Like, they already got their money. So I think now we're gonna start seeing a lot more of these kinda, I guess, meetings, right, if you will, of the the the TradFi world and the native crypto world. And that's only until the TradFi world figures out exactly how a successful crypto, either exchange or businesses run, and they're gonna steal every last bit of it and then try and make it into a million and one different products that their traders can completely exploit and eventually, one day, need to be bailed out on. But until we get there... And who would think, Natalie, like, just money that you can create out of thin air would breed criminals. It's fine. It's fine. We got this, guys. Yeah. Let's see what else we got. Is Cool back up or no? Is Cool back up?
[0:14:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. No. I still see him as a listener. Mhmm. So I'm actually Yep. It's... I'm actually looking... Diving into a little deeper on this liquidity fees thing, and it's a 100% true. So liquidity fees can be broken down into the fees that are typically structured into the liquidity fees with distribution to LP, and then as well as regular platform fees that are charged by the. So I think it's all about the money, money, money, which is not wrong. Right? The banks are in it for the money. The banks are in it to make money.
[0:14:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: You think we're gonna see consolidation amongst exchanges or, like, some of these banks maybe buy out one of these exchanges?
[0:14:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. I think so. I think we're gonna see a consolidation across crypto in general. I think we're gonna see it within the tokens as well. And we're starting to see some of it now with some of these projects shutting down, right, slowly but surely. I I think things are gonna get a little condensed.
[0:15:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, damn. You were upset about blast? You'll get them next time, Nat. Don't worry about it. No. Blast is shutting down. You know, did you see the... You saw the Polygon troll where they were like, it is with heavy hearts that we tell you that this is not a cease of operations letter. I was like, oh my god. Polygon is out here trolling.
[0:15:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I saw that, and then Wolf Terminal came put out something similar. I reposted it earlier this morning. It was so funny.
[0:15:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: A little bit ridiculous, but... Yeah. Alright. Alright. Let me see what I got in my rundown. Here we go. Fearing fear and greed is contradicting itself. Oh. Prince seventy one is agree on one. On one hand, we got seven... Greed at 71 for October 6. On October 7, CFGI prints it at 50 neutral. Interesting different methodologies. Oil is driving crypto today, not crypto. Renewed Iranian attacks on tankers in the Strait Of Hormuz, pushed Brent above a $101 and the ten year above 5.3%. And into that, the Fed September minutes drop at 2PM EST, obviously, as tomorrow. Expecting a rate hike to three and a quarter to 4%, Every red candle on your screen is a bond market and energy story wearing a crypto costume. I like I like how my AI gives me these reports. FOMC at 2PM tomorrow, Natalie, or was that today? No. Tomorrow.
[0:16:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let me double check because I could've sworn that it came out. I mean, hold on. Let
[0:16:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: me today?
[0:16:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Let me double check.
[0:16:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Rundown was being written.
[0:16:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. As this rundown was being written, it
[0:16:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: was today. It was today at 2PM.
[0:16:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, is that why we saw that massive god candle across the board in in some of these things? It was, like, just from one minute to the next, like, what did they end up doing? Did they did they hike?
[0:17:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. So it's just the meeting minutes. It's just a a Oh, the meeting minutes. Right. Right. Yeah. So it's not a rate decision.
[0:17:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it.
[0:17:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Just like stuff that they that they spoke about before that they're reiterating reiterating it.
[0:17:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy. Okay. What's your position on oil and Bitcoin right now? Oil up, BTC down. What's the deal?
[0:17:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: So for me, oil looks very interesting. It did come down. It did come down and tag a big area that we were looking at, which is around that 86, and it did bounce from there. Right? So now is, do we do we start to reclaim, the 92 to 95 area? We tried to break... Well, technically, we tried to break above 91. I believe it was last night, but we kept rejecting. Right? But if we start to reclaim that, it opens the door to higher. Remember, we were talking about months ago that 95 was a big area above 95. We're looking at a 100. If oil reclaims 100 once more, I think this could get very interesting because this would be, like, what, the fourth... The third or the fourth time that oil taps that 100 area this year? Hold on. Let me bring up my chart just to make sure.
[0:18:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: One second, Dave. And and I made a post about it last night too. Right? Because also in addition to oil, I am looking at natural gas. So natural gas has a double bottle formation on the weekly as well, which is very interesting to to note. But oil has come up... Oh my goodness. So oil did tap over 100 this year, 2026, February, April. So February and April. We've had two times in which oil has that... Oh, no. Recently as well. February, April, and September. So we have three taps at that 100 level. None of it sold. None of it held. We went above it slightly. So one zero five, one zero six, and one zero seven recently. Right? It did not hold. What we saw was a sell off, on oil, which put risk back on the table. We saw BTC give us a nice bump. We saw equities give us a nice bump. In my opinion, I do think if we start to see those levels and reclaim those levels, I think it'll open the top side up, right, which is the one twenty or one forty that Landy and I, we've been talking about for some time. But it all it all depends on what happens around that 100 level. Right? Because if if it taps 100 and rejects there, then then I think the possibility of us revisiting that 86, maybe possibly even 82, is greater. But I think for me, that 100 mark is very, very important. And the other thing too that I mentioned yesterday on the on the polls that I did last night is that is natural gas. Gas is very interesting, and it's not uncommon to see natural gas increase around this time of the year, especially when it gets cold because, you know, some of it is dependent on the weather. But the the chart is looking strong, and we start to see closes above three forty. We're looking at the possibility of natural gas giving us, four or high. We were actually talking about it on the space earlier. So both oil and natural gas look very, very interesting. Still, we already have two areas to the upside that we need to keep in mind. For oil, 100. For natural gas, $3.40. For BTC, it did come it did come down, but buyers stepped in on on BTC. What I'd like to see for some continuation to the upside, if if we're gonna go if we're gonna go on a crazy one to the upside, let's say, to, like, 90, 93, eighty seven three hundred is a big area. It has come up on that area a few times, and it has rejected. Now we need to turn that resistance into support. If we turn that resistance into support and we start to head towards that 90 to 93 area, then, obviously, I'm looking I'm looking for a run to my invalidation levels. Right? It's something I've been saying for the majority of the year. If if I wanted to invalidate my lower price, my lower price targets on BTC, I need to start to seeing I need to start to see closes above 100 k. The first step for this, because there's such big resistance at $8,787.03, that needs to be turned into support, or at least let's get a break above that first for hire. Because here's the the other scenario. BTC can wick above $87,300, give us a nice run to to 90 to grab that liquidity that's there, and then close below that. Right? So that's why I'm being really specific with with my words in terms of we need to turn $87.03 into support, which means we need to back test it. It needs to hold, and we need to see a continuation to the upside. Because what we don't wanna see is a week below it, and it failed to hold a rejection, and then we start heading lower. Right? So that's one key area to the upside, that $87,300. The downside, levels are... Is also important. When we were in the seventies, we needed to break 80 to 800. So now let's say, for example, the next move down brings us to 80 to 800. Do we confirm that as support, or
[0:22:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: we start to slip through? If we start
[0:22:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: to slip through and we're at 80... Below eighty two eight hundred, the line in the sand for me is 74. Below 74, I think we get to 71 very quickly. If we start to lose 71, it puts us right back into the sixties. Right? So now we have two levels that we need to to look for. To the upside, we have that $87,300, and to the downside, $82,800, and maybe even 74 k as a line of the stand for me. But that's kind of where I'm at. It is trading sideways, David. Hasn't really done much, which is very interesting because we saw NQ really gave us a crazy move, like, the last thirty minutes of the of the day today between 03:30 and and four, and q just spiked. BTC, not that much. So let's see where the daily candle closes as well because I think once we see the daily candle closes on BTC, it kinda tells us a lot as well. I'm not sure if you wanna add anything to that.
[0:23:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nah. I mean, I... I'm I'm in the trenches now with, like, this... With with the prop stuff and just, you know, channeling, you know, as you call me, Trader Dave Yes. From from from way from way back when. I was hella creepy, by the way. But, what I'm realizing is you do get a well rounded... Like, trading perps, you get to see everything. Right? You get to see the equity markets. You get to see the FX markets. You get to see the indices. You get to see oil and gold and commodities. So it's actually really cool. Like, you you know, just having everything here. You're obviously not gonna see volume, like, on the CME, but it still makes you go and check. Right? Like, still makes you go and say, what if... Like like, how is this going to affect my potential trade? The amount of times that I'm texting Natalie throughout the course of the day being like, hey. What do think about this, this, this? And I'm like, wait. Is there any any econ... Any any economic news coming tomorrow? Any three letter acronym that I should be aware of that essentially could flush me out of my position premarket? So it's... It... It's something where if you're not the... Hey. Let me check on the CPIs and PPIs and FOMCs. If you're not that person, that's okay. But, like, getting in here, I think, is... Like, it's just good for education. Right? Like, I hear a lot of people say, like, just try it out. Start off with, like, a small account, but not a... I'm not chilling genuinely. I went through three accounts today. Three. Meaning, I didn't blow up three. I've only blow up two, but they were $30 accounts as FYI. And I was playing around with the different leverages, the limits, seeing what was what. Like, how do I wanna structure my strategy? And I think I kinda got it a little bit dialed in now. You know? Like, it's it's better and better. So You did a really good job. You did a really good
[0:24:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: job today, Dave. Great job.
[0:24:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I thought I had passed the eval on... Because I thought I was on... I opened up one 10 k account and another 25 k account. And the one that I did, I I did, like, plus... I was, like, plus 1,300 today, but I thought it was on the 10 k account. So I'm like, eval done. But, no, it was on the 25 k account. And that... I said this to you in the in the messages. I genuinely believe, and, Lande, I would love to hear what you have to say on this, the way in which these guys make money, it all has to do with daily loss limit, bro. It's like, what is the price point? Like, this is a mathematical equation. What is the price point that I can get somebody to pay? Right? And what are the rules that I can impart on them that will minimize completely or pretty much eliminate, like, the risk of the firm itself and be able to still be profitable and, like, churn this out? And I realized today, it's genuinely like a... Because see... Like, once the account closes, you're like, ah, what am I gonna do? Like, on a on a on a $300 daily loss limit account, am I really gonna close out on a 200... At a two at $200 and then use the other... And have the other $100 and then just start moving stops around? Doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make any sense. So I'm starting to see a little bit behind the curtain. But, man, I can see how these guys are just, like, literally one after the other after the other.
[0:26:15] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's like game game over. Do you wanna play again?
[0:26:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Literally. Like, the the pop up comes up in there as if you were playing Game Boy. Yes. I'll date myself. I'm not 25. It's like, and you see, like, a big thing in the middle of the screen that's like, oh, this account closed. Wanna try another? And you're like, what the
[0:26:33] SalimFi @Desalimfi: fuck is going on
[0:26:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: right now? This is crazy. But I tried another and another. So I think it could work because I think people see the potential of what it can be. But I think also understanding, like, the actual numbers, the math, and how to actually trade the leverage is a really big deal, and figure out what kind of trader you are. I had no idea what what you guys were talking about back in the day when I would hear you say, oh, it was a scalp, but I'm a day trader, and I'm this. And I'm like, I I don't know what the difference between one or the other is, but I'm finding out. Right? I'm learning, like, more and more, and it's super interesting, man. And that... I wanna be one of these dudes sharing a 130 k slip. That shit works on me. That advertising works. You're you're
[0:27:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: gonna get there. You're gonna get there. Step one is the eval, and then I think once you pass that, you're gonna be great, Dave. You're gonna be great. I believe in you.
[0:27:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank thank that. If only we could all be as great as bits and get stopped out of our Bitcoin position at $76,000. $0.00. What what what... What's that? I was gonna clap him up, but... Nah. I'm kidding, bitch. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. He's probably like this guy. I'm kidding.
[0:27:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. But it's it's been it's been cool.
[0:27:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: But you you you see how you become, more aware of of what is happening in markets when you're actually in it. Right? It's easier to track.
[0:28:01] SalimFi @Desalimfi: 100%.
[0:28:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's easier to track what the market is doing, what people are paying attention to, what levels to pay attention to. Because, you know, if if NQ hits a certain level, it starts to break above like we saw today. Beautiful move to the upside. Right? So it... But it's easier when you're in it versus just reading about it.
[0:28:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: And if you're listening and you're saying, I have no idea what they're saying. Can you just tell me what to trade? We literally just told you. Go trade in queue. Figure it out. I'll say this. That... The one that... I was actually gonna tweet about this earlier. Like, the biggest lesson... Not even lesson. Like, the biggest piece of advice or or, like, teaching that, like, my head trader ever taught me when I was sitting on the trading desk was... Listen to me. She goes, if you're gonna sit at this desk while I'm gone and you're gonna trade this list, right, like, you're gonna be busy, you can't miss out on free money. And I said, what's free money? She goes, I'll show you as we go, but I need you to keep this in mind. As you're trading a stock... Because we were... It was a bulletin board and pink sheet ones. Right? Still crazy volume. As you're trading a stock, if you see a stock has strength throughout the course of the day, it's literally up, up, up, flat, then up. Throughout the session, if it's constantly moving higher and then closes on or right... Literally right at the highs, the chances of that stock opening up tomorrow has greatly greatly increased. So position yourself accordingly. And I was like, alright. Cool. Does it work every time? No. It doesn't work every single time. But I said to Natalie at the end of the... At the close today, I'm like, this is free money for me right now, and I said that for a reason, buying NQ at, you know, $314.15 or whatever it was. Right? Like, the people were just selling after hours randomly. And I get it. Now it's it's only $3,143.04, but I think this is the catalyst for tomorrow because the strength that we saw at the close is crazy. Oh, and as we are speaking, $314.52. Yeah. Look at that candle.
[0:30:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Because 6PM future is open.
[0:30:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Yeah. Love it. Love it. Love it. Yeah, man. This is
[0:30:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm happy for you. I think you got this. We got this, Dave. We got this.
[0:30:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Alright. This way, we should show the link. Right? Like, this way, we should
[0:30:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: the Guys,
[0:30:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: if you want a best account, I opened this one for 34 dot... Actually, no. The 25 k one that I opened up, I think, is, like, a two step one. So you make, like, a thousand... Or you make 2,500, and then you gotta make 1,200. Yeah. Then 12... Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. 2,500 then $12.50, and then you get, like, a... Something like a $80.20 split. But for $84, $84? I don't know. Where else are you gonna get that kind of education? Just saying. Okay. Cool. I'll pin it to the... Oh, I have to bring my account in here. Yes. Natalie, can you just pin one of our tweets? Thank you. Cool. Cool. Cool. Landon, what's up, my boy? How are doing?
[0:31:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: Good. It's good to see you all. I am fresh off of a round of talking to people who claim that they understand what they're talking about, and then trying to get something from me while they're talking about it in a setting in which I am asking them a bunch of questions about their experience. And it's rough out there. It's rough out there. Man, if you if you show me a CV and not an actual, like, real resume, And it's just that... No. No. What are we doing here? What what what what is this? What is the nonsense? And why... You know, the easiest thing to do is... And and I have to I have to talk to some of these folks in... What you might call an interview fashion. Right? And, and you wanna know how many freaking AI generated slop resumes and CVs I have seen in the past two weeks.
[0:32:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: That might be the worst application for AI ever. Like, every lazy human is going to use AI for a resume, people. It's just that's
[0:32:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: not you.
[0:32:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sorry. Go ahead. Where is this going, Landon? What what are you... Who are you interviewing and for what position?
[0:32:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I cannot disclose what I'm interviewing for, but you can take a guess. But, essentially, it's the next generation of folks to do what I essentially have been doing for... On contract for many, many years.
[0:32:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: And Copy.
[0:32:44] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, I've got a good solid set of folks that are going to, you know, be the next generation already, but you needs... You need staff. Right? You need to be staffed up. And then you need to have the proper qualifications. And we we are getting folks that are coming up through the chain to me that claim to have the proper qualifications and the, you know, I am I am the guardian. Right? I am the one... I'm the checkpoint you have to get through to get in the door because this is... Yes. And, wow, it's great to see MV back. But wild stuff people will put on their resume and their CV and their experience. And it's funny how when you start to press them on, hey. So I tried to contact these folks over here to verify some of what your your prior experience. And it went Hey.
[0:33:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't lie in glades.
[0:33:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was it was... You know how many people are just lying, just straight up lying? Just just abject fallacies. Like, in in... The the worst is lying about their credentials that you have to have with certain organizations that is easily checkable. And it's like, okay. You AI put together this freaking resume. You claim to have these credentials and even put credential numbers in there, and you didn't bother to go and check if they would even be valid to support your stupid bullshit. Excuse my language. It is so annoying. It is so ridiculous that the slate of 10 people that I had today, I got through one. I said, thank you very much. Have a good day. We are canceling the rest. Because I looked ahead at some of these, and I swear to god, I I... One, you you realize what you have to go through after getting through me anyway? Like, you're gonna get caught on your BS. Like, what is this? Like, it is They
[0:34:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: they listen. Sometimes we convince ourselves when you have superpowers, like, when the AI is in front of you, right, and GPT's telling me, Dave, you got this, man. We could build this. For sure, we could build this. It's like, way to go, buddy. And I'm like, yes. I know we can. We could do this. And then you get about, like, 15% of the way through, and you're like, Chad, this ain't it. This isn't what you told me. Like, how how did you think that my dumbass was gonna be able to do this? You know? So they made me think that
[0:35:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Imagine asking chat GPT. Hey, chat GPT. I wanna get this helicopter job. Just tailor it out perfectly. It looks good. It looks perfect. It gets you to the door. You get higher, and then now it's time to fly the helicopter. Now what?
[0:35:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's it's... I I... I'm like... I haven't really experienced this because I... You know, for some of the stuff that I do outside of, you know, this, in this space, which is basically my... Just my free time and hang out and fun time, but I get to do what I want.
[0:35:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: The... I I have not encountered the problems that have to deal with now that are trying to get the next generation in to really good... These are really good positions. These are, like, long term good positions. And I just don't... I don't know how it it... And here's the problem is everywhere you go now, AI is auditing it on the way in. Right? It's like the first pass is an AI audit when you submit an application somewhere when you're submitting your res... Your your, resume and, like, you're filling out all the qualifications and related materials and stuff. It's AI that's aggregating all of that data anyway. Pretty straightforward stuff. But it's not... Like, do they... Just because the AI, you got through that, did you not, like, think that you were ever gonna have to talk to a human and, like, you were just gonna walk into the workplace one day? Like, what do you what do you... What do
[0:36:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: you just think step one.
[0:36:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know? They don't think past. My daddy used to
[0:37:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: say the problem is a lot of people don't think further than their nose.
[0:37:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: It... That's... That is verifiably accurate. I I think that some of these folks... And, like, I had one person, like, argue with me about it. I'm like, okay. Well, then if if... First of all, that's... You're you're not gonna get hired doing that. You're not gonna get... You're gonna put up... Get put on contract. You're gonna get nothing. But I was like, you know, why don't you just, you know, why don't you give us the the the information that you were supposed to give us in the first place then to verify your qualifications? And it's like, you know, it it it ended up turning into me just reading them the riot act and yelling at them.
[0:37:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Sounds fun.
[0:37:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: And and I actually have I have a pretty good yelling voice.
[0:37:52] NatNat @Natnatx007: I can imagine you yelling. You always... It's like, I don't know, like, puppet yelling. Like, how does that work?
[0:37:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is is a complete fabrication. This... I am a completely fake thing online. I am I am a a... I'm a man playing a puppet. So I am the puppet master. It's all a facade. This nice guy. Oh, look at me.
[0:38:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's all a hope.
[0:38:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's awful, Daisy, Fugazi. Look.
[0:38:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've been fooling everybody for years. I mean, how many of you know that I've got black fans sitting out in front of your house right now? I mean, like, come on.
[0:38:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: I know you don't. Don't. Not here because then it would be me sending them to you. That's how I know.
[0:38:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Don't don't tag and bag me. Coordination. You do not want me. I'm hella annoying as a prisoner, dude. You don't want me. I'm gonna be talking the
[0:38:40] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: whole time. Think you're out and about, bro.
[0:38:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly. Right. Exactly. Perfect. Thank you for letting me sit in my dungeon. Milo, what's good?
[0:38:47] Milo @0dteSPY: So all I wanna add is I was doing hiring probably a month or two ago, and the number of people that apply for jobs that have no idea what they're applying for is absolutely disgusting and a complete waste of everyone's time, and it's really disappointing. And please, if you apply for a job, at least do ten seconds and research the company and what they actually do. And don't just say, like, some bullshit that you think is based on the name of the company. Have a nice day.
[0:39:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I used I used to do that sometimes way back in the day when you... You know, when you're just getting a job? I And was like, yeah. Sorry. Where... Which job is this? Who are you? And they're like, MFer. You're applying for us to pay you. What do you mean you don't know who... Like, I gave you the name. How do you not know? How many jobs must you got? It's like, hey. It's a tough job market out here. What do want me to tell you? Applying to a lot of jobs. When you go through Indeed, it's just a lot, man. Oh god. I don't miss those dates.
[0:39:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I'm gonna direct you all to a YouTube video, and it's called LGTM, looks good to me, a Cloud Opus 5.5 music video. It is by degenerative pixels. It's not like some viral video or anything, but it is hilarious because it is indicative of everything that is happening right now. And I'm sure that if if, I'm sorry, Toast Malone. I almost called him bread, but he's toast now. Toast Malone. We're here. He would he would very easily confirm everything that that is in this song because it is... It really is just look good to me. It looks good to me because no one's reading what what any of these AIs are outputting or even putting on their resumes apparently because, like, they have no no idea. Like, it's it's wild work, man. And it's... And you get the little green check that the task is done from all... You know, especially Claude. You get all the green checks and stuff, like... But no one knows what any of it means. The song is great. Please go look it up. It's LGTM. Looks good to me. Claude Opus five point
[0:40:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: five music. Do you guys remember Cutco?
[0:41:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cutco? Cutco knives? Yeah. Knives. Cutco knives. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was I was a curvy I was a Kirby salesperson, not a not so much a Yeah.
[0:41:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: I was a Coco salesperson way back in the days.
[0:41:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Not that long ago, obviously, because I'm only 25. But it was one of those that you're hired by surprise.
[0:41:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Acknowledge the Kirby vacuum reference. There is no way you're
[0:41:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: 25. This is clearly part of the
[0:41:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: operation that you and I are running.
[0:41:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Back in the day, it was like, that's a that's a Warren Buffett, the company. I was like, yeah. Meanwhile, I was in the hood hood. So with with Coco, you're hired by surprise. Like, you walk in, and you just wanna know what it's about. And by the end, he's like, surprise. You're all hired. I'm like, wait. What? Yeah. Welcome.
[0:41:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: All hired. Team meeting. It's like, hey. Look. You get discount on it. Right? Like, you you you own your own
[0:41:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Exactly. You are my mother my mother love worry about it. Who's gonna be on your downline and your upline is the better question. But look. Look who's catching the ashes. Miyagi. What up, bro?
[0:42:04] Voice D: Hey, guys. Good to see you all. It's been a while, man. How are you? Nat Nat, Landy. I've been great, man, honestly. Life is life is lifey, man. I... Yeah. When info fi kinda got gutted after I kinda fumbled my second cycle, I kinda was like, alright. I gotta I gotta hit the drawing board again. So I did that, and, we're back from the ashes as you would say.
[0:42:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. I love it. Oh, Miyagi's perfect. Miyagi, I'm sending you a link right now. Prop trading. You're gonna love this, bro. You are going to love this. We're gonna make some money together, me and you, bro. That's how we're gonna do it. But it's good to see you, man. Good stuff. I'm glad you're doing good. Alright, guys. What else do we got cooking? Let me see some of these other stories that we got here. Alright, Natalie. We got the Winklevoss twins file for a Zcash fund. New fund called Wink, so original, with a, 0.25% fee. Zcash fund that already exists has a two and a half percent fee, lost 93,000,000 in one week. Ouch. Price war over shrinking demand. A privacy coin inside a fully tracked Wall Street product. That is funny, kinda, I guess. Lower fees, maybe more attractive. I don't know.
[0:43:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. That was actually very interesting. I came across that story. Believe it... Was it Milo that shared it in in in in the chat? But I am curious to know what the puppet thinks about this.
[0:43:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: The winklevii. I love calling the winklevii.
[0:43:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wink... Winklevye? The
[0:43:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Winklevye in Winklevye. Holy crap. It's... I mean, it sells itself.
[0:43:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know, it's it's funny because, like, the the narrative that you see kicking around really does surround a lot of the privacy stuff right now. And then you've got, of course, the Ethereum dev guy coming out and like, oh my god. Bitcoin's gonna be broken with regular compute and AI.
[0:44:10] SalimFi @Desalimfi: Oh my god. EDC... EDSA.
[0:44:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. But, like, I... The narrative is the narrative. Cool. Good for them. I hope they're successful. Yay. That... Where's the party poppers? Should I get a party popper?
[0:44:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: Landy, now that you mentioned that, that was actually one of the stories that we that we opened up with, the whole BTC and AI thing. And I I think anything is possible with AI. Is it difficult? I mean, is it easy? Absolutely not. But what did you...
[0:44:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's not... It's a theory. It's theoretical math. None of it has been proven.
[0:44:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Correct. It hasn't been proven.
[0:44:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Even with regular compute and, like, all the stuff that they're talking about. Like, now people are are taking it as quantum's gonna break every... Like, this has nothing to do with Quantum, and it's it's actually before q day. It's like the the narratives are gonna float around. Look. The privacy narrative is a very big one, whether you're looking at Zcash, whether you're looking at Midnight now with a nice pump and new partnerships, you're looking at all of the various ones that Milo wants to kick out there as well. Your Monero's of the world, your yada yada's. The the big thing here is there's a lot of fear mongering. Taking that post completely out of context and fear mongering around it, it's pretty interesting because it surrounds... That post came out at an interesting point in time in which we have a lot of launches that are surrounding the privacy narrative, in the past week or so. So it is... It's kind of interesting. A lot of folks are out there going, oh my god. There's, like, there's a million Bitcoin that are gonna be... They're gonna crack, the... All the public keys of Satoshi's Bitcoin. I was like, no. That... It's... You're forgetting that he didn't sign, pay to public key was, like, very, very early days, and that's... That's not a lot of Bitcoin. It's literally, like, 1,500 Bitcoin or something. Yeah. Is it is is it substantial in terms of dollar amount at these prices? Sure. Yeah. But it's not substantial when you look at never spent and no pub key, and it's and it's... You know? You've you've had... You know, when you're looking at the million or so, you're you're looking at what is hashed versus what is not hashed versus what was spent, which was not spent, and a lot of it hasn't moved. There's a lot of fear and and FUD and all that kind of stuff. You know, they're they're gonna look at the 1,940,000 Bitcoin. They're gonna do this. They're gonna do that. And a lot of... What are the lot of the privacy protocols doing right now? Well, a lot of them are now using that story as a piggyback. Right? Of, like, oh, well, this is... You you can shield your address over here. You don't even have to do anything. You can just add this. And then you've got scammers coming out and putting up fake links of, well, you can protect your wallet if you do this. So it's just like this big cluster f, to not swear. But reality is that, none of this was really not known. We knew that that an e... ECDLP break is not really gonna do anything. There's there's components of this that are risk factors in certain cases and specialized scenarios. Look. The bigger risk factor is what we've already seen with, like, stuff like cold card. Right? It's just poor key management, poor key generation, you know, poor fallback, you know, RNG stuff, random number generator stuff, you know, like, all of the different security stuff. It's it's a failure to actually utilize encryption technology in the proper way. Bitcoin is not encryption. It utilizes many forms of encryption to to... For what it is. So there's there's a lot of different things. I I I thoroughly enjoy these narratives. I I like... Especially when they come with downside price action, and get everybody nice and fearful as a trader. That's always fun, but we didn't even get a break. Like, come on. Come on. We can't even fear ourselves into a break back below the monthly. Come on. Give me a break. What are we
[0:48:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: doing here? Can you a break? Give me a break.
[0:48:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Can I get a break of the monthly structure, please?
[0:48:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: And it's like
[0:48:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: for correction.
[0:48:21] Voice D: And it's like, is it... Like like, to to to, like, double click on this, like, why would... If somebody had the access to, like, quantum hack into this, right, and people found out, essentially, Bitcoin's gonna go to zero. So it's like, even if somebody figured out how to do this, you... There wouldn't... They wouldn't, like... It wouldn't be the telltale signs. Right? Like be... Like, I feel like it wouldn't be on chain first. Like, everyone thinks, like, quantum is going on chain first. Why would quantum computing go somewhere where people literally have bots, alarms, alerts? Like, there's literally web pages set up watching ancient Bitcoin addresses. Like... So why would why would someone who has the ability to hack Quantumly go to the place where there's the most technological eyes. They wouldn't. They would start taking fucking bank accounts. They would start taking fucking Social Security numbers. They would start doing so many other things that are so hard to trace before anyone even knew that Quantum had hacked it. And by that point, it's GG's. So that's kinda my whole take on the whole Quantum thesis. Like, we are technologically the most secure, so why would they go for us first?
[0:49:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, the the problem... Here's the thing is this is... This isn't even quantum related at all. They're twisting it into the quantum stuff. They're utilizing this as, a springboard of, like, well, if we could do this with just, you know, compute... Current compute and AI, then just imagine when we get q day. Like, everything is... Yeah. And you're right. Like, everything that you're saying is right. The the fear mongering kind of stuff around it is as if these things aren't well known. I mean, many many people won't even go back far enough to even look at the Potosi address stuff and the risks with, p two p k and, like, all that kind of stuff and how, you know, public keys are hashed in the way that all the signature checks are done now. So when you're getting pair output for p two p k... Like, we've known about the attack vectors for a very long time. And it's not... It's nothing wrong with Bitcoin. It's nothing wrong with, you know, the the chain and how things... It was... How they were spent originally, utilizing some of these standards. But over time, you know, there's there's, there's solutions that are are being weighed and offered, and it's well worn territory. But it it comes up in a new way, and the reason why that post addressed it... Addressed Wales is because if you have an old enough address, you probably should have already moved it by now. Like, because there's other old school ways of attacking these things that doesn't even... You don't even need AI. Like, there's... But this is not new. None of this is new, and it's not new for Bitcoin. It's not new for many of the blockchains. And, realistically, what what are we looking at when it comes to, like, the security side of things? You're already seeing the vectors of attack. Right? You're seeing which ways AI is gonna go in terms of an attack. And and is it gonna get to the infrastructure level? Yes. It will get to the infrastructure level, and it already has. And where are we seeing it? Well, we're seeing it in bridge infrastructure. Right? We're seeing it in, in the actual cold storage infrastructure. We're seeing it in, in new and innovative ways, you know, and and those are some of the more technical ways and and to exploit things. And, realistically, in many cases, you know, we're we're seeing that these narratives are being pumped in a different way, and you're 100% right. What is more vulnerable? Blockchain technology or traditional systems? The traditional systems that are still running on, like, you know, bank... Some banking systems. Now granted, there's been a massive movement within the banking industry to to move towards quantum cryptography, quantum safe cryptography, which is not even settled, by the way. But, you know, taking those preventative measures. But, you know, by any metric... And I had this conversation and argument with somebody here on this stage, about a year, two years ago now, it seems like it was two years ago at least, is that you're you're looking at still the rollout of any of that kind of stuff taking for for a very long time on the government institution side of things. You have private institutions and banks that are still taking forever. They still use these old legacy systems. So, like, supply chain. Like, supply chain, you know, computerized systems and supply chain management software. Like, there's all kinds of attack vectors all over the place that are way more disruptive and can make way more money for those who wanna do it. And by the way, let's say you crack Satoshi's coins and you start moving them. Good luck. Good luck. Have fun.
[0:53:20] Voice D: Yeah. Like like like, where are you gonna off ramp it? Like, where are you gonna where are you gonna exchange it? Like, what what... Well, big... Like, it just doesn't... Yeah. It... It's it's it's a it's a flash in the pan. It's designed to shake out those who don't know. But, also, through conflict, we evolve. So I I love conversations like this. I love when things like this happen, especially because I feel like a lot of the new participants this cycle are coming from, like, an alt chain and, like, a, you know, gambling, like, like, narrative where, like, this is actually, like, the tech and, like, why it's secure and why it works and, like, why we're here in the first place. So shout out to you, Landy.
[0:53:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I appreciate it. Look. I think part of the theory crafting is needed. But people who get out there and talk about this, specifically as it relates to some of the stuff that was dropped by OpenAI regarding mathematics, That's part of the fear. But, you know, like, remember, we we talked about this a couple months back, when Google issued their their math is final, essentially, for the break of, you know, most blockchain technology, and the encryption built there within, and how the math is pretty much done. It's that we don't have the quantum computers powerful enough to do it. And you're not gonna get any of that out out of the current compute infrastructure even with AI. There's a lot more lower level stuff that AI can target that is a lot more damaging to a lot of different financial systems outside of blockchain. And we've seen how many projects have been hacked in the recent months, bridges that have been hacked, and, like, there's far easier low hanging fruit to go for that is easier to move with easier vectors for for those to actually exploit right now than to go after any of this kind of theoretical stuff. And when posting a theory like this, a lot of guys like him know what they're doing. They know that they're adding fuel. He knows as soon as he posts that that it's going... The way it's going to be taken and ran with by clickbait and engagement farming accounts, especially some of the largest ones out there. So I'm a little disappointed in because some of them are... You know, have been pretty responsible in their reporting on... And their fair reporting on on on the actual issues in the past are now just taking this in fear mongering, which tells me that they've, you know, they've got an agenda of some sort. Who knows what that is? And don't... I I don't really care what it is. It's just kinda nonsense to me. But but remember, the never spent p 2 p k h, which is, which is what you're gonna see out there. If it's never been spent, it's fine. Even if the the the particular crack was gonna happen today. But you are seeing a lot of folks on the privacy coin side of things, and, I even saw, like, Near take advantage of this particular news and, kinda kick it out there of, like, hey. Here's what you can do. You can shield and do that. And and it's like, Cool. I I take, yeah. You know what? Farm while you can farm.
[0:56:36] Voice D: It's funny. Oh, Landy, what you were talking about? Near, did you hear about Qantas? I was literally about to ask you that.
[0:56:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Heard a little bit. I think they talked about it here.
[0:56:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: Quant or Quantis, you're talking about? Quantis.
[0:56:49] Voice D: Q n t. No. Quantis.
[0:56:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's Quantis?
[0:56:53] Voice D: Well, because... Yeah. Because we're on the topic of quantum and stuff. I actually found this last night. It's called a Quantis, q t c. It's near... Near is pushing it. It's essentially like a quantum proof wallet and chain. Apparently, it's like a network. I... I'm on my phone. Yeah. Sorry. I'm talking to you guys on my phone. Let me grab the Twitter, and I can post it on, comment it below rather. But, yeah, I found this last night. It's Qantas Network. They're listed on near intense, and essentially, there... There's currently only 1% of the supply circulating, and it's like a new chain, I guess. And, like, you sold... The 98% is still to be accrued via minor awards. Yeah. It came out October 6, so literally yesterday. It's, yeah. It's... I I... I'm learning about it. I found it last night, like I said, so I figured I'd mention it with people who are smarter than me and... Or since we're on the topic. But, yeah, I bought some yesterday just because, you know, I'm a degenerate. Buy now. Ask questions later. But... Yeah.
[0:57:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: They're quantum safe money thing.
[0:58:01] Voice D: Yeah. So this is like... If Near's gonna... Like, how you were saying with privacy and narratives, like, you know, Near is clearly, you know, the second... I would say... I wouldn't say it's like a a Zcash beta, but I would say it's it's... It was lagging behind in terms of its support for the narrative. I think, you know, Zcash ran so that way the narrative could be almost solidified consensus wise. And now people are starting to pick up near Monero and starting to look, you know, deeper to... Because, you know, they feel like they kinda missed the Zcash run. So anything near right now... And Monero is, like, where my eyes and ears are kinda looking. So when this came across my desk, I thought it was interesting.
[0:58:43] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I mean, they... Where they they launched... Technically, they they listed yesterday. Right? But they launched on the third or something. I haven't looked too too deep into, like, the technicals, but they're doing the whole... Guess guess what the max supply is. It's 21,000,000. Mhmm. So, you know, you see what they're going for. Right? You see what they're going for. And, you know, they partnered with Raya and stuff like that. So I haven't looked too too deep into it. I know that, like, it hit a pretty pretty decent sized market cap. What was it? Like, 50,000,000 or something then sold off pretty aggressively. I don't know what it's gonna end up being. It was... There is price data that goes back, like, further than that. So I I really haven't paid too much attention to it outside of all the volume that it was putting on the other day.
[0:59:42] Voice D: Word. Yeah. I've seen it. I don't... You're smartest, but it pretty much says on the website, it's like... It's m l dash d s a delithium dash five. That's apparently the cryptography The... It's written under.
[0:59:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: The formula?
[1:00:00] Voice D: Yeah. The formula.
[1:00:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: The formula for the for the continuum trans function.
[1:00:03] Voice D: Yeah. Exactly. You put the converter belt mechanism for Giga Legal Land. Exactly.
[1:00:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It uses it uses the inverted HERP and DERP to
[1:00:11] Kkoma @itskkoma: do the
[1:00:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: encryption to the NIST standards.
[1:00:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Exactly. That's what I was saying. Cup and handle. The viscosity... The biscuit... What was... I can't even remember
[1:00:21] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: what handle. Saying. Cup...
[1:00:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Oh, the trans... Oh....
[1:00:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: The viscous liquid or whatever the hell it was.
[1:00:27] Voice D: The viscosity. Yes.
[1:00:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Viscosity, but it was another... Was a name for it or something. I don't remember. Matt, are you gonna deter us with an OG Anunobi in some midgets Instagram DM story right now?
[1:00:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: David, what you're what you're looking for is you have to understand they're using the turboencabulator, alright, to actually encapsulate the encryption.
[1:00:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: And Exactly. And when you encapsulate it, then Yeah. It's a complete
[1:00:54] Voice D: I'm encapsulating. I'm encapsulating?
[1:00:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm encapsulating. Yeah. That
[1:00:58] Milo @0dteSPY: could work too.
[1:00:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: You have to yell it late at night
[1:01:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: while you're in bed. I'm incabulating.
[1:01:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fuck. Oh my god.
[1:01:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: You can come to my turbo encabulator OnlyFans account later.
[1:01:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair. That's cool. What's up, Natalie? Well, we're gonna do an awkward transition here.
[1:01:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is anyone worried about is anyone worried about the plague? Is that something we should be worry... Worried about?
[1:01:22] Voice D: Bro, I'm literally home from work sick right now. Don't say that Don't don't say that shit, dog. Don't say that shit. Wanna talk
[1:01:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: about it. Late headache. So... But I I think that I'm protected by turboencabulation, and and and I think as long as I wear
[1:01:41] Voice D: As long as I shield my address, I'll be safe from the play.
[1:01:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. As long as I wear my ML dash DSA, NIST standardized face mask, I'll be good.
[1:01:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: I said I
[1:01:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: can Honestly, I'm gonna add that that's something to my watch.
[1:01:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: 16. Those those are the biggest crockets.
[1:02:01] Voice D: Yo. Did you guys hear about the the b r c 20? It's extremely annoying to talk about because of the fucking ticker, but... Yeah.
[1:02:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, it's it's
[1:02:11] Voice D: Yeah. It's literally a... Like, yeah.
[1:02:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, that's interesting. Another science... Another psychological science experiment. Leave it to the big one. Leave it to the guys who make puppets. Yeah. Right.
[1:02:21] Voice D: But but, Landy, did you hear about this? Because I know you're a you're a puppet guy.
[1:02:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I heard about it, and I think it's it's funny and and cringeworthy in the same breath, which is very... It's a very puppet thing.
[1:02:32] Voice D: So are we bidding? Because I low key top blasted last night.
[1:02:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I have yet to bid. Let's put it that way. I've seen how it plays out. Look. I... I've seen I've seen people from from the ecosystem fly to every other network and pretend that that now they're on doing new things. So I'm I'm waiting for... To see when their money rolls back. That's what I'm waiting for.
[1:02:56] Voice D: Respect it. I don't know. I thought, like, in my in my head, like, similarly to, like, East side of things where, like, you see Klaus is, like, kinda running on East, whereas, like, we haven't seen a runner on Bitcoin in years. And, like, if this whole privacy narrative is gonna continue, which we know it is, like, this is a easy bid at 1 mil. But, yeah, if you haven't bid, definitely makes me curious because, again, it's kinda same thing, like, with ordinals and, like, you know, BRCs in the beginning. Like, sir... Things were experimental. They didn't really work out. But I don't know. I think I I... I've ate the small amount. I think it's a good gamble. No. Based based on the precedent that the puppets have set.
[1:03:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: It is definitely a gamble, and I'm waiting... I'm willing to buy higher if if that's what I'm seeing in terms of flows.
[1:03:45] Voice D: Yeah. I respect that decision. And, also, 40% of the supply is burned to Satoshi's wallet. So the tokenomics, I think it's, like, whatever 40% of 1.2 mil is, that's the actual market cap.
[1:03:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, now that we know that it's Satoshi's wallet and that everything I'm seeing on the timeline is that they're gonna get cracked, that's clearly gonna become liquid again. Right? Like, come on. Like, it's it's obvious. Right? Like, it's tomorrow. Tomorrow, everybody is gonna crack. And by the way, if price does nuke through the monthly, everyone is gonna be talking about just that. Like, oh my god. It's the quantum turboencabulator is gonna crack Bitcoin, and, oh, it's gonna be... You should all get on your Zcashes and your Dashes and your Litecoin. We... It's our Litecoins. Gotta get your Mimblewimbles in. Like, oh, man. It's it's gonna be hilarious.
[1:04:39] Voice D: I'm not gonna lie. Looking at the monthly, like, do you think we'd go a little lower and then November, it's just up only?
[1:04:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Nat Nat, would you like to take that?
[1:04:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: The... I'm I'm paying close attention to the levels. Right? So one big level for me is that $82,800, maybe even down to, like, 85... $82,500. Right? So the top side, if we want to break higher, $87,300 is a big, big area that it has failed to close above. Right? So we need to break above and hold and close above that $87,300 for hire.
[1:05:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: But if we start to lose for me.
[1:05:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: But but if we start to lose 87... $82,800 or $82.05, I think it opens the door to lower. My my thesis has always been the same. $7,474,000 is the line in the sand for me. We start to break below that. I think we'll be quickly into the sixties.
[1:05:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I'm looking for mid seventies if we break below 80. Warning of that, we break in below the 82 and a half. That's that's really what I've got for me. Above 86, we'll run the local highs probably somewhere around 87 and a half. Need to break above there, then we can look for 80 to 90, potentially more, maybe even in mid to low nineties.
[1:05:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. 90 to 90 k and 93. Yeah. We... So we have similar levels just off by, like, a 100 or $200.
[1:06:05] Voice D: What do we have, what what catalyst do we have that are bullish or bearish? Like, what's... Like, when's the next FOMC? When's the next cut?
[1:06:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I mean, you're... We're probably not looking for a cut. I mean, the market is definitely giving us room for a raise, not a cut, for FOMC. It's just a matter of whether they wanna take it. And I like, mister Spread's, way of taking a look at it is just utilizing the three month as a good base case. It... It's sold off since the highs, and since FOMC, it moved up and then sold off a little bit. So it's really how... What kind of room does the market give on the short end to see if we're gonna get another raise. If anything, I would favor at this point now knowing that Wash is willing to raise. I would give maybe one more raise by the end of the year. I don't know if we're gonna see that necessarily in and around this time frame. In terms of catalyst, the catalyst is really, I think, watching, risk rotation within the traditional markets because
[1:07:19] Voice D: The bonds. Right? They're fucking at all time highs?
[1:07:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. But here... Here's the thing. Like, it... It's okay. It's being... You you... What you're seeing is a park into bonds, a move into energy, a move out of energy into the traditional market and equity space, and then a move back into bonds. You're getting this constant rotational trade. And, in in... We've seen that that Bitcoin has actually been a little bit of a beneficiary of this. It's when we get that dash for cash where everything comes out where you get not only, you get you get that liquidity moving out of... See, because all the liquidity has had places to go. Right? Now it's had places to go on the energy side for oil because the trade's been there, whether... And and it's irrespective of supply, by the way. It doesn't matter if supply is restricted or if supply has been flowing like it has been on the oil side because then you got the diesel side, and that is restricted. And then you've got that rotation coming back into markets after after going cash, so going into Dixie. So the trade has been really energy Dixie bonds, out of bonds into equities, and then back into energy and then back into Dixie and then so on and so forth. You're just getting this circular, rotation of liquidity, and you're not really getting all of it aggregated into, like, Dixie, for instance. And the main reason why is because we haven't had, like, a big shock to the market that has caused everybody to run to cash and then sit in bonds to wait, right, to to wait to see what happens. That doesn't mean that we're not gonna see that. We're in kind of that time period, October, November, headed into elections where we might see some volatility. And and when I say volatility, although although we we have have seen a little bit to the upside in terms of equities, the the bigger spikes in volatility are gonna be to the downside. That's where you get VIX really running up. And I think that if we see things sell off in an aggressive way in the traditional market space, we'll get a dash to cash, and we'll see that, likely... You know, we'll see that paired with Bitcoin also having its its daily into weekly correction because that's really what's coming next. It's like we've had this nice move up, beautiful move up. We've had higher term time frame structure breaks on the monthly, with a down trending structure break. We've got a monthly quarterly closing low already set coming into this month. So a... It's all about the next big move down, and it's a lot of hurry up and wait right here at a very big inflection point. Major weekly overhead, major, monthlies down below in terms of higher low and lower high all in the same place. So if you start to see the major monthly to the downside break down, like, we can see local corrections into the seventies... Mid seventies. Right? Because that's where you had a higher low, last higher low of the bull market. That's where you got your lower high of the bear market at between 74 and $76,000. 74 was the was the swing low.
[1:10:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: It was.
[1:10:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then you've got 76 was the closing lower high. If we break back into that structure, which, as Nat said, would be below $82.08, 82.5, that's breaking back into that monthly structure. It's either gonna hold or you better you better, you know, bend over and kiss your butts goodbye if you're in longs in that area because they're gonna get washed out to the downside. And I do mean leveraged longs for those that are using prop trading accounts, so be very careful. If you're an investor, you're just waiting for the next daily to weekly move down to see if it forms a higher low on the monthly and then all good to go.
[1:11:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Thank you. It's good.
[1:11:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Live on that one. I'm watching. I love seeing that green number, baby. I love
[1:11:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Great job there. That's amazing.
[1:11:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Go up. Let's go. Love it. There's nothing better. Obviously, there's not... Knowing that, like, it's still going higher because, like, literally, like, you have a few schmucks or schnucks that are literally out here trading this right now. But, like, knowing that maybe this is this is probably gonna go bit higher. What are trading? NQ.
[1:11:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, you're trading Q on best.
[1:11:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
[1:11:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Oh, okay.
[1:11:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: On on best.
[1:11:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm there with you, except I'm gonna be on the other side here shortly.
[1:11:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. You're taking a short on NQ?
[1:11:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not yet. I will be.
[1:11:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, woah.
[1:11:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: It has a confirmed short this year. Right? That's what he's waiting for. Though.
[1:11:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:11:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I'm long I'm long from 29 k. I have to yeah. I
[1:11:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. What? What are we talking about here, bro? Consolidation.... With this investment thesis nonsense. Okay? We need day traders,
[1:12:03] NatNat @Natnatx007: scalpers Gamblers.
[1:12:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Another word now. Hold on. Yeah. Gamblers. Do
[1:12:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: you wanna know how much I'm up on options right now?
[1:12:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I don't, honestly. I don't.
[1:12:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dude, you're
[1:12:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: trying to make me feel worse. Thank you very much. Let me have my win. Okay?
[1:12:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: Looking for this to... I would like to see this come up a little bit higher to $32.32 k, but I don't know
[1:12:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: if we'll get it. Well, that... That's all time high, Sarah.
[1:12:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, is it me, or are we losing?
[1:12:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. That's Dave for sure. Oh. Dave was trying to give market updates, and and the Internet smited him.
[1:12:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's actually doing really, really, really great job on his m q trade. So proud of him. But I I did... I saw Milo. Milo came up as soon as I mentioned the plague. Milo, should should we be worried?
[1:12:50] Milo @0dteSPY: I thought we were gonna do conspiracies. That's why it came up, so I'm kinda disappointed.
[1:12:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, it's conspiracy. Yeah.
[1:12:58] Milo @0dteSPY: Well, I mean, we got a plague running around. We got an election showing up. We got people promising money. I mean, we got the full basket of
[1:13:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: What about the caravan? You missed the caravan?
[1:13:09] Milo @0dteSPY: No. I did not. I've been told about the caravan that's waiting to test the immigration system, So we're ready. Listen. We got it all ready to go. I'm ready for the zombies. I got pallets of toilet paper, and we're ready to go.
[1:13:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Who's got plague? I had a call come in. My fault. Who's got the plague, Milo? You got the plague? Russia. Russia. Russia. Russia. Of course. Russia. Russia. And that was it. I like that. So now that people will know that
[1:13:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: I don't know, guys. I don't know. Remember when the lockdown wasn't supposed to affect the COVID was, like, only... It's only in China. Nothing to worry about. It's never gonna come to America, and it came to America.
[1:13:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: They don't mind. Do remember that year
[1:13:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: that with? They made you believe it was something. Stop it.
[1:13:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: And do we remember the year when there was no flu deaths? It was really weird. Like, the the flu disappeared, but we had this weird thing called COVID. It was very odd.
[1:14:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: The flu vaccine gives you the flu? What?
[1:14:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. There was no flu deaths, though. I mean, like, I... It was amazing. I was shocked that the flu disappeared, but we had we had the new and improved version
[1:14:21] Milo @0dteSPY: Yeah.
[1:14:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Of COVID. Stuck on that flat earthers. Anyways
[1:14:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. You're telling me the Earth is round? What do
[1:14:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: you That is not not for today. That's another lesson. That's another lesson.
[1:14:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, come on. You you believe we landed on the moon, I bet.
[1:14:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: We landed on the moon. Oh, so good. Alright. Let me see what other story... What time is it? 06:44. The only thing I'm doing is literally staring this chart right now. I never thought I saw Trader Lodge. You'll be waking up
[1:14:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: in your pajamas tomorrow eating some Cheetos, just staring
[1:14:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: at That's why I thought that's why I thought trading. I'm telling you, I'm a I'm a crackhead. When I get into... Like, when I seriously trade, I don't stop. Like, that's my thing. I don't know how... Like, I have to watch the position. I don't know... I didn't know the levels. Like, oh, stop and take... I never knew any of that stuff. For me, it was like you're watching because I... It was always trading order flow. It was never trading, like, my own position. So, like, it's a little bit of little bit of an adjustment.
[1:15:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's... But it's not because you're you're... You can look at the books. You can look at the books, bro.
[1:15:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can look Agree. You can look in the books, but it's a different story when you have a Merrill Lynch order to buy 75,000 shares of a stock that you can literally just go bid for for 75,000 shares and just hang out and know that you could just flip that to, you know, the guy who's got the order to
[1:15:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: to to to When I was putting up markets, I didn't... I just literally put up the market. You come fill it.
[1:15:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? Or I will fill Like, if you're making a mark... If you're making a market on the equities markets, you... There's minimum order sizes that you have to fill. Right? A dollar, $5, 500. Yep. Right? Like, below... I think it was below a quarter we were doing. I think it was 5,000 share. So, like, you had to at least be cognizant of it. You have to provide some liquidity, hence why we always have the argument, Landy, or why we always fight with the rest of the crypto. Essentially, when when they tell, god. I can't
[1:16:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: do gonna provide liquidity now. You saw the post. Right?
[1:16:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Wells Fargo, I hope you're all happy. I hope you're all happy. Okay?
[1:16:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Was Wells Fargo. Please.
[1:16:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:16:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Burn it all down.
[1:16:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Seriously, man. Crazy. Nuts. Yo. And shout out to Astral. Astral, I see you in the building, man. What's up? Guys, don't forget. Astral's gonna join us at the space. He created a pretty dope Chrome extension for trading on vest. Take profit, stop loss, make your trading experience a lot easier. So come to the space that me and Natalie are hosting. I pinned it up to the top on Friday, 4PM EST. Natalie, you will... There will be no eating cereal. There will be no corset, and there will be no treadmill. Are we agreed?
[1:16:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can we negotiate this in the background, please?
[1:17:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Nonnegotiables. These are nonnegotiables. Can I
[1:17:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: think about the cereal part?
[1:17:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's fair. That's fair. Just eat it before. It's like... You eat cereal at hella weird time. You know what mean? Like, I don't... Like, are you eating cereal right now? No. I can't eat. I can't really... I can barely breathe right now. Why all of a sudden is my nose getting... Why is my nose getting so frustrating? You. The plague. The plague. The plague. It's the plague. Plague. It's the plague. Somebody make a funny AI video with the plague. I need video to get a little bit cheaper, and then I can generate stupid videos all day. Also, for any Grok bot users in the building, if you saw, you can tag bot on the... You could tag Grok bot on the time. Not Grok, but bot, which is the Grok bot. Sounds like... I sound like literally a psychopath. Which is your Grock bot on the timeline under any post, and it'll literally send the message directly to your Grock bot. Now why you wouldn't just open the application and tell it yourself? Sometimes, you know, maybe you don't wanna copy and paste the link and do do this or that. It's just like, hey, bot. Do this, and you're good. So any Grok bot users in the building, give it a shot. Let me see. What else?
[1:18:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do have a a a little update. So when we opened the show, we spoke about oil, but also natural gas in that area that we were looking at, that $3.40. It is creeping up. $3.26. Oh my god. Why did that remind me of g twenty six? But it's at
[1:18:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: G 26. 26. And Miyagi's here? Oh my god. Wow. It is decent. God. What are y'all doing? My bad. My bad. But it is
[1:18:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: at 326. It's something to watch. 340 will be a very interesting area. It did...
[1:18:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: We are solving the biggest problem in Natgas in web three d.
[1:18:56] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my gosh. I wonder my t... Where's my TV? That's that's what I wanna know. Sitting in my MetaMask while I'm looking ugly as hell. I don't have a cover. No no colors anymore. Fucking
[1:19:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: I wonder I wonder what happened to them. Is he okay?
[1:19:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is he okay?
[1:19:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Jesus. Damn. Oh,
[1:19:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: What kind of shit, Miami?
[1:19:16] Voice D: I'm so sorry. I didn't even know I was... I I didn't even know I was
[1:19:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: That was your old Roger. I get it. I get it. That's all that's all good.
[1:19:23] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think so. That was funny. You're right. I digress, like, from birth history, and we don't wanna talk about it. It's fine. But natural gas, not gas, not my gas, but natural gas is creeping up.
[1:19:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat's ass gas?
[1:19:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm a child. What do want me to tell you? I'm a fucking child. It is what it is.
[1:19:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: There was a very good video that bits of wealth shared about ass hair. I think No. No. No.
[1:19:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. I'm stopping you right... Nope. I'm stopping you right there. And, Landon, I never ever mute you ever. Ass hair is literally where I draw
[1:20:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: the line. Is he even mutable?
[1:20:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's mutable. He's not a immutable puppet today. Look at him. He's mutable. Landon, I... Nah. I'm... It's... I'm a mutant. Okay? I'm I'm a mutant. It's like ruins. Landy, ass hair is literally where I draw the line. There will be no speak of ass hair in this building, Rundsen.
[1:20:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I don't have to speak. You can go watch the video.
[1:20:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: No shilling. No shilling of ass hair.
[1:20:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's in the chat. Please go watch it. It's... It is a wonderful rendition
[1:20:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay.
[1:20:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: About the resiliency of ass hair having to put up with so much shit.
[1:20:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: These fucking dad jokes, I can't. Miyagi, you didn't miss much, bro. You see what I'm saying? You did not miss much. This is what you missed. A bunch of terrible ass hair dad jokes and some people burping into a phone. You know what I'm saying?
[1:20:59] Voice D: No. I respect it. I mean, Twitter Spaces are supposed to be, like, a hangout. You know? Like, I I... If you really wanna make money here, like, respectfully, Twitter Spaces is not, like, you were supposed to spend, like, most of your time, the... From my experience. But it's always good to hang out and talk shit. Like, that's what... That... Like, fucking bro, we, like, I... One of the things I highlight is that this shit is lonely, man. Like, crypto is a lonely fucking game because at the end of the day, you're clicking the buttons. Nobody... Like, we could talk all day, thesis, thesis, whatever, super hydroxy cut, whatever the fuck, but you're the one clicking the buttons, and you're the one who has to pay the bills at the end of the month. You're the one who has to tell your wife that you lost 6 k on fucking cock inu or whatever the fuck you bought this week. So it's like, as long as you're... You you didn't lose the plot, we could fucking do whatever we want. Talk shit, hang out, meet some friends. That's kinda how I see I see crypto and, like, spaces and shit. You know?
[1:21:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: It's all... It also depends on on community. Right? Because you... You'll be surprised. If you're in the right community, it won't feel like you're doing it alone.
[1:22:04] Voice D: Yeah. Agree. A 100%. A 100%.
[1:22:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: You know the community guy? Milo. Milo's in tons of community. Oh, he's not even here.
[1:22:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: He's also in it, but it's like, oh, he's gone.
[1:22:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. Milo. The one shot I get to take. Unbelievable.
[1:22:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: You know why he left. Right? Because I didn't bring up Dash.
[1:22:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ash had... No. Probably.
[1:22:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's probably Dashpay. I didn't bring it up, and he was like, look. You couldn't even bring up Dashpay. I'm
[1:22:30] NatNat @Natnatx007: How dare you forget Dashpay, Landy?
[1:22:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: How dare you? Seriously. How dare you? How dare you? Alright. Listen up. Wait. Wait. I I had another story. One second here. Any gossip on this? I... You know what I love, guys, though? I love seeing, like, the prop bros, like, prop, like, firm bros or the futures bros, like, trying to understand crypto. And they're like, what is this instant withdrawal madness? And they're like, what? In a crypto in a crypto wallet, and they send it immediately? What is this sorcery? I feel like people are still trying to wrap their head around, like, withdrawing. Here's what I take from everything, guys. Okay?
[1:23:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Withdrawing?
[1:23:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. Like, withdrawing money from, like, your prop account, like, instantaneously. Like, instant withdrawals. It's like, hey. You made money today after passing the eval or if you have a fully funded account, whatever. It's like, what... Like, you made you made some profit. Withdraw. And it literally withdraws the money. Think I people are having a hard time wrapping their head around it because I guess traditionally, Landy, the the the prop industry has just been notorious for... Obviously, we've we've spoken at length about this. But just watching some of their posts is like, what... This is like magic. All of a sudden, request, and then it ends up in your wallet. It's just like, yeah. Yeah.
[1:23:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, because most prop funded accounts, you're... You can get a bunch of money that you've made in there, and then they have to approve withdrawals, and then you can only withdraw a certain percentage of that. And then many of them do a bait and switch and won't even let you withdraw. They'll be like, no. The terms are. Right. We now need to make another $10,000 in the account. And and all of that is because they're covering their position
[1:24:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[1:24:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: For your future losses and blowing up the account. So
[1:24:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you for the vote of confidence. But also
[1:24:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not you. Not you specifically.
[1:24:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Note note note to self. If you are gonna trade any of these prop accounts and by some miracle, you somehow, like... You know, not even miracle. I hope you all make money and profit from it. Whether it's an eval account that you then make money from, the second you make profit, you would, like, hit the withdraw button. That's the one thing that I am seeing over and over again. Don't take a chance because you never know from one day to the next. I don't know how it's gonna shake out. Right? I have no idea. I don't see the books at any of these firms. But if your profit is sitting there and you're entitled to it, hit the... Don't just sit on it and be like, I'm gonna trade with this money. They already give you enough. Trust me. They give you more than enough, and you can lever yourself out the ass, not ass hair. Lever yourself out the ass if you wanted to. You guys suck today, but anyways, ain't my jokes?
[1:25:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm just seeing how long I can
[1:25:21] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: stay muted without laughing. Terrible. You're like, oh. Terrible.
[1:25:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: The good thing the good thing about Vest, Dave, is it... They have multiple products. Right? So not only do they have the prop version of it, but they also have the self funded version of of things. And you can actually take advantage of the overnight movements on... Within the stock market on Vest. Right? So you have... If you have NVIDIA that's pushing overnight, you can literally go in and open an NVIDIA position on Vest versus having to wait for 09:30 the next day. Right? So... And if oil is ripping overnight, you can go in and put in an order for oil on Vest as well. There's multiple ways to do it. Right? You have your prop version. You have the self funded version, and you can even create your own little package as well. So I think Vest has done a great job just being well rounded there.
[1:26:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. Yeah. That's all I got. No more stories. Anybody else have any
[1:26:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do. I do. This one is actually on Gocstein's me... Media account. Mhmm. They actually... You guys do a really good job curating stories, Landy. This one was actually from yesterday, but we didn't have time to cover it. Coinbase launches AI agent trading on base, enabling direct to USDC execution. The platform lets AI agents like Claude and Grok execute trade, manage portfolios, and pay for research directly from Coinbase accounts you... USDC on base.
[1:27:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I feel like we reported on this already for... You... You've been able to this for a while. Right? Like, you could do this on Kraken. You can do this anywhere.
[1:27:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. You can.
[1:27:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right? Like, Coinbase opened up their whole development side, x four zero two, agent trading now.
[1:27:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: I think it's a matter of, like Yeah. I mean the big... That's that's big.
[1:27:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: They built... That is actually What's it called? They built a full on plug in for Grok. Right? So you can literally just talk to Grok and trade your Coinbase account and everything that Coinbase offers. Right? So, yeah, I I mean, I like it. I think it's just a matter of how much do you, quote, trust it, you know, to give it your money. Elon commented on the timeline when I saw this story. Actually, a couple... Like, I think it was a couple weeks ago, and you know what he says? Somebody was like, I'm thinking about attaching my blah blah blah. My wife doesn't think that's a good idea. So Elon puts underneath. Was like, do it. We'll we'll cover the losses. And this is like, I guess the trillion is gonna cover my losses. Must be freaking nice, Elon, back in your... You don't wanna cover my prop trading from Lawson? Anyways, alright. Good stuff. I like the story. Landy, anything else to add?
[1:28:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I'll still, beat the ever loving crap out of your bots.
[1:28:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bring your bots, dude.
[1:28:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: They they have... I've not uploaded my... Your stop loss is my entry book yet to Grock specifically or Claude specifically so that they don't understand my methodology.
[1:28:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: And it's only, like, a 100,000 pages long. Very short read.
[1:28:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Well, I mean, I I said that I would match my style on stages, and I wrote a book to rival War and Peace. And then some.
[1:28:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're not gonna recite it here. Oh, I did see a Polymarket story. Hold on. There... Well, I saw... See Coma in the crowd. What's good, Coma? I saw a Polymarket story. Let me see if I could find it real quick. Polymarket prediction. Polymarket rebuilt its system. New markets switch over November's camping
[1:29:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: also Oh my goodness. You sound very robotic.
[1:29:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, for real?
[1:29:11] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, now no. Now you're good. Now you're good. Now you're good.
[1:29:15] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's... Polymarket is moving to its own dollar coin, so I guess they're gonna have their own stable. No more of this p u s d, this whatever nonsense that they were using before. Nobody said how the coin's gonna be backed, which is very interesting. Where the money at? Where the money? You wanna be considered a stable coin issuer? Maybe they're gonna partner up, obviously. There... There's no... They're they're not light on, money backers. Let's just say that with, obviously, ICE being, their lead investor on their first round, their first raise. A new bill would... Listen to this nonsense. A new a new bill would ban candidates from betting on their own races. Okay. But you don't wanna ban yourselves from trading stocks, Nancy Pelosi? Make it make sense. Take... These markets are now big enough for insider trading to matter, which is a sign that they're extremely legit. Thank you, GPT. Appreciate that. Oh. Oh. Oh. Hold on. Let me just double check this for a second. Alibaba Cloud and Sui will let AI bots pay for cloud services with no human approval up to a budget that you set. No launch date. No word on safety limits. A glitchy bot could burn the whole budget in seconds. Imagine a bot talking to Alibaba. Anyways, that was an interesting one. Quick hits. Cardano now lets token issuers freeze or take back tokens. That's real nice. I don't know. That's a random powerful line. I don't know if you've heard anything about that, Landy. That just came up in my... What's it called? In my in my recap, the the the US government moved a 103,000,000 and seized crypto to Coinbase. No sale. A company called Conduit is suing Tether over a $2,760,000 freeze. At a NYC hearing, OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google wouldn't promise their AI is risk free. Google signed a twenty year nuclear power deal with Constellation. You heard Nat talk about this already. And money has left Ethereum funds five days in a row.
[1:31:24] SalimFi @Desalimfi: Panic at the
[1:31:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. Oh, no. Five days?
[1:31:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: You don't say.
[1:31:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. What are we gonna do?
[1:31:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know, man. I don't know why you just sounded like a southern hick. But you're like, what are gonna do, man?
[1:31:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: What are gonna do,
[1:31:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: man? What
[1:31:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: are gonna do out here?
[1:31:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: I think, listen, man. It's not worse than I said. Is crazy to me, dude.
[1:31:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I I can tell you that
[1:31:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: You guys get a c for effort.
[1:31:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I I should probably get an f for effort and just drop the e. It's.
[1:31:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I I actually like the way that the headlines are shaping up now, because they're gonna be really fun to talk about when prices do come down because everyone will blame them instead of actually looking at the auctions.
[1:32:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And then they go, oh, They were right.
[1:32:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no.
[1:32:23] Voice D: They were
[1:32:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: right, man. The AIs are gonna take
[1:32:25] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: my job.
[1:32:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: Last little bits. I know we spoke about OKX recently, but Circle, Ripple, and Standard Chartered have invested in OKX at a $25,000,000,000 valuation as well. I don't know if that was part of the... Oh my god. What was... Who made the investment in OKX that we were talking about yesterday?
[1:32:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: Ice.
[1:32:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh.
[1:32:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: Ice is
[1:32:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: probably market.
[1:32:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. It was Ice.
[1:32:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was Ice. You're right. Sorry. Sorry. You're right. My fault. My fault. Competitors are now becoming co owners, and the value hasn't gone up much since March. What's 25,000,000,000? But we'll see what OKX does. And blast and abstract have... Are closing. Obviously, womp womp. We're therapy session. Oh, no.
[1:33:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Who could've seen
[1:33:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: it coming? Oh, no. This is this is how I get the recap. BLAST went from 2,200,000,000 in deposits to 32,000,000 and made $1,793 last month. Wow. Blast users must withdraw. By the way, October 26. If you still got money on Blast, don't know what you're doing with your life. You're obviously not paying attention, and you're sleeping in here. Why? They got too cheap to they got too cheap to run to make any money. GPT's got jokes. You see that? Those jokes. And then the CFTC will let US exchanges offer crypto trading with borrowed money, and they got SPF locked up. See what I'm talking about? All of a sudden, it's alright for the CFTC since you could trade crypto with other people's money. But when SPF does it, lock them up.
[1:33:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Prop, except it's an entire exchange using borrowed money? I bet you we won't see tons of those pop up.
[1:34:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Signing up is optional, and a future agency could undo it. Only big companies can pretty much afford to sign up is what GPT is telling me.
[1:34:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: So Well, that that is true, and congress isn't gonna codify any of it. So expect it to go away if the administration changes. And I don't mean if the house and the senate changes. I mean, if the administration replaces CFTC and SEC, a new administration replaces the directors. So
[1:34:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy.
[1:34:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. It's... You're good for the next two years, two and a half... Two two years and... Well, to to two months.
[1:34:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that.
[1:34:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Have fun.
[1:34:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Is it is it crazy to say that I get excited in my nether regions when I see green god candles? Like, That's called
[1:34:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: emotional trading, and you are not yet dead inside. So we need you
[1:34:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: to Love that.
[1:34:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Blow up, like, at least 15 more accounts, and you won't feel anything anymore.
[1:34:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Sweet. Okay. Noted.
[1:34:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: And then you'll become an actual trader. You can say, hey.
[1:35:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love that.
[1:35:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: I now do not care if it's up or down. I'm going to take not just longs, but also shorts. And, and then you'll you'll start to get that picture in your mind of of how you... How you're gonna proceed forward in your trading journey.
[1:35:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: That you got... You gotta Something's happening in my shorts.
[1:35:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: You gotta get to the point where you can look at the screen and say, Okay? So once you get to that point, you're good.
[1:35:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's like you sending me screenshots of TA. You're like, this is what I'm looking at. I'm like, I don't... Not... What are you looking? Hieroglyphics from ancient Egypt?
[1:35:37] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's like trying to... It's like, man, I I I knew I should've learned to read Hebrew.
[1:35:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: They say... Yeah. Exactly. What is this? Aramaic? Yeah. Yeah. Psycho. Aramaic. No. No. No. What's up?
[1:35:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, no. Can anybody hear me?
[1:35:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: I can hear to
[1:35:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: say, oh, DocNooNoo.
[1:35:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, DocNooNoo. Yeah?
[1:36:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. She's actually not here. What? DocNooNoo.
[1:36:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm gonna remove her from speaker and then bring her back up. DocNooNoo, come on back, girl. She's like, hi, guys. Sorry. I didn't even know I was up here.
[1:36:15] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: She does that, it'd be hilarious.
[1:36:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I swear. Sorry, guys. I didn't even know I pressed the button.
[1:36:23] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: She's gonna sit down there, listeners.
[1:36:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, DocNooNoo. What's up? Hey. Nope. IPhone problems. Either that or Android problems. I don't know which one it is.
[1:36:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. I Must be so frustrating. Earlier on, on the wolf terminal space, Dave. And I know you've been on the wolf crypto spaces, a bit here and there. Well, everybody kept dropping off and then coming back and then dropping off again. And, Kate had mentioned, he's like, they just have been doing updates, like, every single day. Like, every day for the past three days, you get all these updates. I'm like, I get all these we get all
[1:37:04] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: these updates, and things just get worse. They're not actually fixing anything. It's just getting worse and worse and worse.
[1:37:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: And they always tell you the same thing. We've done... We've implemented the squash bugs and make your experience better. Is it? Exactly. Are you really are you really, though, guys? For real? I don't think so. Wait. DocNooNoo, is there anything you wanna... I feel like DocNooNoo wants to say something. DocNooNoo, can you say it in the chat or tell me if it was a mistake? I don't I don't really know what's happening right now.
[1:37:35] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, yeah. She's in the she's in the chat. She said, I didn't even request. Was I on stage? And then Milo said, it looked that way.
[1:37:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were on stage. I was like, oh, boy. New news coming up at the end. It's either Bitcoin's in 29 k or something else. I don't know. Alright. That's all I got, kids. That's it. Oh, wait. Of course. Coma's gonna come on up right at the end. What's up? Come on. Look. Look.
[1:38:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's in the elevator?
[1:38:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: He he is in the spinning elevator. Hello, Koma.
[1:38:12] Kkoma @itskkoma: Hello. Afternoon here. Just wanted to say hi. Didn't realize I was not in the space, but it's good to, be here. I love NFTs. I love, never selling. And, yeah, go Roger.
[1:38:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Go Roger. That's that's that's that's what you came up for? Alright.
[1:38:39] Kkoma @itskkoma: Dave, an honest question for you right now. Yeah. How do you make money in this space?
[1:38:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: Which venture would you like me to... Which failed venture would you like me to walk you through, or do you want me to walk you through the current one, which is the prop trading one? Because everybody's posting slips for a $120,000 profit days, which I'm No.
[1:39:01] Kkoma @itskkoma: Because I'm I'm, like, semi serious because first, it was, like, Infofy, and then there was, prediction markets kinda where everyone lost money, probably. Now, you know, like, I I... I'm, like, I feel so out of Web three. I, like, I know how Nat, Nat and Mandy are making money by, like, doing trading, but I I I feel like you're not trading as much as they are. So what are you doing? Like, teach me. Like, how how do we make money here?
[1:39:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Bro, jump on the bus. Let's go. Open up a... What's it called? Open up a Are you are you feeling these referrals? Is that what you're telling me? No. Yes. No. Of course, I'm not, bro. But, yeah, go open an account real quick, and then we'll talk about it afterwards offline.
[1:39:44] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: He said learn to trade. It's basically the new learn to
[1:39:48] Kkoma @itskkoma: code Figure
[1:39:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: it out.
[1:39:49] Wolf @WOLF_Crypto_X: Three. Learn to trade.
[1:39:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Coma, in what world do you think that you have time in your schedule to trade anything that involves you actually looking at the screen, bro? You'd have to really craft out an entire strategy. Nat, is there hope for coma or no?
[1:40:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: It... There is hope for coma. Yes. And and based on his PFP I mean,
[1:40:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm trading.
[1:40:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: He is seeking hope. He's looking for something. He's peeking into something. He's curious about something. He might be trading. But you do need to have some... You need to find a system that works for you. Once you find a system that works for you, it's gonna it's gonna be great.
[1:40:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: He's he's just some American behind this Asian PSP over here.
[1:40:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yes. I saw that troll. That was freaking great. LARPer. Freaking LARPer. DocNooNoo taught me that word. I never knew what a LARPer... What a LARP was, like, LARPing, like, live action, like, role play, like your own LARPer.
[1:40:44] SalimFi @Desalimfi: You didn't?
[1:40:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's amazing.
[1:40:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. No. Dave, I'm officially gonna put you in the old man category because
[1:40:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah, bro. I didn't know. I genuinely didn't know.
[1:40:54] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm literally... I... I've I've referred to myself as I am... I'm I'm a man LARPing as a puppet online.
[1:41:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: I am a LARP.
[1:41:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Mean, if people call me a LARP, I mean, I I literally am live action role playing a cartoon puppet puppet on the Internet.
[1:41:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Shout out to the LARPs. That's it. Koma, definitely go sign up.
[1:41:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Join my art piece. Gonna make...
[1:41:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: How much do want? You sign up for my Volley party referral. I'll sign up for yours.
[1:41:23] Kkoma @itskkoma: How about that? You know, like for like
[1:41:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, I'll I'll never really... You... I'll never you... Like, sending me the polymarketer referral. I got you. Of course, I'll sign up. If you just get money for the sign up, does it matter if I trade, or do I need to make one trade?
[1:41:33] Kkoma @itskkoma: One trade. $1. That's all.
[1:41:35] Dave @DCBK2LA: Done. I got you. See? A little shill for shill action.
[1:41:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: This is how it works, bro. I'm gonna
[1:41:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: my nice gratuitous.
[1:41:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Come join my RP server if you actually wanna learn how to trade.
[1:41:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: But I can't tell you about any of it until whenever I feel like No.
[1:41:48] Landy @CryptoLandy: I've on my... It's posted on the timeline. Right? It's now officially out there.
[1:41:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, alright. Well, pin it to the top Oh. So people could get so people could get at it. How do I do that?
[1:41:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. The old man category. Betty remembers Wiz. The Wiz. Oh, no. Ryan's killing me in the comments here.
[1:42:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: Nat, what's up?
[1:42:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So before we head out, I don't know if you guys... Well, we we... I mentioned this towards the end of the wall spaces, and we we spoke about it last night in the chat in... Regarding Phoenix earlier today. Well, you guys saw the news last night, but a lot of the back and forth earlier today was whether it was confirmed or not. And we finally officially have an official confirmation that the body that they did find in the river, it is indeed Phoenix.
[1:42:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Who? Who is this? What? Who's... Who died?
[1:42:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oculus Trade.
[1:42:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oculus Trade. Oh, well, I didn't I didn't...
[1:42:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Somebody you guys knew in Web three?
[1:42:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So I was following him. I don't know him personally, but I was following him for a very a very long time, like, years. He is from Maryland. He did travel to Cleveland to see the Browns play, and he went missing. He was missing for quite some time. And they just... Yesterday, they found his body in the river, but they did not immediately confirm that it was him. I believe he went missing on October 1 or October 2, and they found his body as soon
[1:43:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: as at the Thursday game.
[1:43:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah.
[1:43:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: The the Pittsburgh Last week.
[1:43:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Versus, yeah, Browns.
[1:43:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Was this some, like, stupid football fan fuckery gone
[1:43:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: by? No.
[1:43:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: We don't know.
[1:43:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: How many days or away from gone will say about this is our IP, but if you go and you understand that there are people that do not like other people, and that's just not... I'm just saying, like, there's there's a lot of conclusions that are being made Yeah. In the in the ecosystem. There is... It... What what I don't like about it is the odd post that he was doing, that may or may not have been from him. We don't know anything. Nobody really knows anything. But let's just put it this way. There's some folks that were fans of him. There was a pretty large contingent of people that were not fans of him as well. And no matter what this ends up being, whether it was, you know, a foul play or something else, RIP, no matter what, hate to see anything like that. But, also, for anyone else out there, just be careful.
[1:44:33] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Because he was fully doxxed. He was fully doxxed, and he had a few videos talking about how much money he made and stuff like that. Again, not speculating just seeing what what I've been seeing in the... What I've seen in the timeline throughout the year as well. But it it is really sad. Just wanted you guys to know that there was an official confirmation. The body that they recovered from the river was indeed Phoenix.
[1:44:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Damn. That's sad. Alright, man. RIP Phoenix. Terrible. And, obviously, yeah, anybody. Alright, guys. Sorry to leave you on the somber note, but that's it. That's all we got. Landon, are you good to host tomorrow or or no?
[1:45:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. I'll be here to host tomorrow. And, yeah, I'll shill. I'll... I'm gonna shill tomorrow as well.
[1:45:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: Go for it. I'm I'm in your... I'm in the Discord, by the way, Larry.
[1:45:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. Cool. Hey. It's free. So come on in.
[1:45:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go.
[1:45:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Come hang out.
[1:45:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Go learn some shit, people. Appreciate y'all. That's ATC for the night. We'll see you guys tomorrow right back here. Sign up for a new account, comma. Peace.