ATC: Are you an emotional trader?

# ATC: Are you an emotional trader? | 2026-10-12 | https://x.com/i/spaces/1qJVmyBbvMPGB | status: approved
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[0:00:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: What's up, bro? How are you doing? Good to see you. Good to see you. Good to see you, my man. Let's wait for everybody to pile in here. Hold on. Natalie is here.
[0:00:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, boy. Let me send this out to everybody. We'll get everybody else in here. Hello, Natalie. What's up?
[0:00:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hello, David. Pretty good. I am walking around the house bouncing my baby, trying to get him to, like, take at least a thirty minute nap. So pardon me if I'm a little too silent in the background.
[0:01:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: He's good. As long as you... I mean, you're not eating cereal, which is always good. You know what I mean? Like, god.
[0:01:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: I mean, I just finished. I mean, do want me to eat it again? I'll eat it again.
[0:01:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. What cereal do you eat again?
[0:01:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Honey walnut.
[0:01:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, hon... Sorry. It was it was unmuted. Honey bunches of oats.
[0:01:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Honey bunches of oats. Looks like fiber. You must be go... You must be on a regular... You know what? Anyways
[0:01:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Abs and flows. You know what I mean?
[0:01:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Abs and flows.
[0:01:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: I got you. I got you. I got you. Where the hell is everybody? What is the deal? I don't understand. They think it was a... Oh, wait a minute. Do they think it was on my page? Because I screwed that up. I put the tweet out from my page, but then I had to retweet from ATC. I put the space from ATC.
[0:01:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: And I think today is also, like, a unofficial holiday, so people are
[0:01:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: out there. Celebrating Columbus Day unless your name is Tony Soprano. Right? And, like, AJ or Meadow, you are not celebrating Columbus Day. You know
[0:01:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: what I'm saying?
[0:02:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: I hear you.
[0:02:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: I hear
[0:02:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: you. I don't know. I guess we'll see. I'm just in full on, like, ATC promo mode, like, video making mode. We got a we got a good amount. We got a good amount of promo that I can now start tweeting out. We could do some announcement stuff as well, like, with vest or whatever. So, you know, we got some
[0:02:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: stuff Yeah. Your video skills are incredible.
[0:02:25] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's go. Oh my god. And q... Nat, when I tell you I've been backwards all day revenge trading, I'm like, I gotta stop. Let's say I'm done. I literally had to just walk away from the computer. I'm like, this is crazy. Because, like Yeah. Yeah. I need patience, man. Serious patience.
[0:02:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Sometimes it just helps to, like, walk away and come back another day. You know what I mean?
[0:02:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: A 100%. I know what you mean. A 100%. I swear. Mustafa, what's up, bro? You good? You haven't... You never come up and talk. How are you? Hi, dude. How
[0:02:56] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: are you? Fine. I'm good.
[0:02:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: How is it going? Going good, man. Going good. How about yourself?
[0:03:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I always I first one.
[0:03:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: He just came up to say, I am the first one. You are the first one, bro. 100%. Right. Every day. Right. Every day. We love you for
[0:03:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: it, bro.
[0:03:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: But you good, miss Apa? Everything else is good?
[0:03:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Everything is good.
[0:03:19] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay.
[0:03:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Everything is okay. I am asking about you.
[0:03:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm good. Thank god. We'll we'll we'll gonna get into the stories today. You get to hear how not to be an emotional traitor and how to essentially stick to your guns. If you are going to do anything, make sure that you leave the emotion out of it. You know what it is too? Miss Papa, it's good to see you, man. You know what it is too, Annette? A lot of times, like, unless, like... I remember myself on the trading floor. Unless you're surrounded by it when it's just you, it's a very different environment, like, trading wise. You know what I'm saying?
[0:03:54] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, absolutely. Because at that point, it's you versus you.
[0:03:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Literally. You versus you. And you're just like, what am I doing? Why am I doing? Like, wait. Wait. Wait. And, like, I have to keep... And you know what I gotta do? Gotta get a whiteboard. Allison's been telling me, get yourself a whiteboard, and I'm gonna just write a big... In big bold bubble letters, patience, idiot. Patience. Oh my god.
[0:04:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's weird. A great idea. That's a great idea. Seriously. To your defense, Dave, NQ was on some wild stuff yesterday and today. It wasn't an easy trade. Like, I was on the stream with a few people this morning, and a lot of them, you know, they took losses too.
[0:04:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah. It was it was a tough one for sure. For sure. Right? And I'm like, oh my god. But then I'm like, alright. Now do I gotta go... Really think about, like, resizing? You know what I mean? But then the other part of me is like, alright. But you lost, like, $400 today, like, $4,500 today. Like, come on. How are you gonna make that back at fifth? But here's what I've realized. Like, with Vest, because you can withdraw immediately, it serves no purpose at all to just not book profit and then go back for the next trade. Right? Like, limit the downside and then essentially just withdraw every single time. Every single time. Yeah.
[0:05:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's what
[0:05:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: that's what, Jay does. I saw him. He he withdrew he withdrew, I think, even, like, a dollar and, like, some change. He's, like, been trying everything, which is smart. Every time he's in profit, he's in... He exits the trade and withdrawals every single time.
[0:05:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: The other thing too that I... That... Like, sometimes your brain takes over, and you're just like, oh my god. Like, I had a... I I was up, I think, like, $3.75 at one point. I'm like, I should probably close this out. But there's... It's not even the greed factor. It's just like like, yes, there could be more on the downside, but you actually believe, like, wait a minute. I put my stop lower. What if it does go here? When in reality, close that trade out, let the thing move wherever it's gonna go, withdraw the $3.75, and now you already have $3.75 on the way. And then you start fresh on the next one. You know? And you still have the 1,500 in terms of the actual, you know, the the the the drawdown, like, before the account would close. So, yep, it's... I I gotta trade smarter. I I need the strategy, like, laid out for me. But, yeah, Milo, welcome.
[0:06:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: A system. Once you find a system, it's easier.
[0:06:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: A 100%. Milo, what's up, bro?
[0:06:14] Milo @0dteSPY: So today is a nonsettlement day. And I'm not being a dick, but I'm being serious. You have to know when there are nonsettlement days because some people are out of cash. So the market always moves differently when this happens. It is something to always be aware of. It is something that will protect you, and it is something that when you know that your your trade goes into green, you do close quicker because things get a little wonky.
[0:06:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Fair. That's a great point, actually. I... But I didn't even know that it was Columbus Day until Nat just said something. Until, like, really, probably, like, at some point this morning, but I didn't even... I'm not even putting two and two together. I gotta get back into the trader mindset mentality. That's what it is. Milo, did you open your account yet or what? What's the deal?
[0:07:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: He dropped. He's like, yeah. Nope. Alright. We don't need you, bro. We opened up five new accounts already today. So...
[0:07:13] Dave @DCBK2LA: Cool. That's good, bro.
[0:07:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: We love you, Milo. You're welcome to open an account.
[0:07:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: You better open up an account, bitch. Cool. What's up, my brother?
[0:07:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, did you guys like the promo video also? Cool. Yeah. Feel free to chime in whenever you're free. Did you guys like the promo video? Where is everybody? I don't understand. Does everyone say that they couldn't make ATC today, or are they just, like, chronically linked?
[0:07:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Can... Bring your bring your personal in. Unless you're like me and don't know
[0:07:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: how to work numbers at
[0:07:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: the same time. I think I can do that. I think I can manage
[0:07:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: it. It. Dumbass.
[0:07:45] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ridiculous.
[0:07:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Hold on. Let me see. Okay. Volume's off. Start listening. Request. Okay. Let me see if I see my pretty face. But what's up, everybody? Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Here we go. Taj is here. Let's go. Ryblo, what's up? Amp, what's good? Guys, also, I am making a... An ATC, like, a few different, like, versions of promo. So if you're a regular here, even as a listener, obviously, like, I'm gonna get the speakers in with sound bites. But if you're a regular here as a listener and you would like to actually be included in the promo, just put a comment, like, in the comment box below in the purple pill and just be like, yeah. I wanna be in the promo and let me know. Because then I could just tell Rock to just grab this entire space, and whoever's here, we kinda work you into the... You know, it'll be, like, two minute kinda deal, like, cinematic Hollywood style trailer promo type stuff. But, yeah, if you want to be, let me know. Put your name down below. Obviously, like, I'm gonna make sure I get all the regular listeners. And then, yeah, we'll go from there. But let's say what's up, Tej. Tej, what's good, bro? How are you?
[0:09:03] Voice H: I am doing good. And listen. You getting all fancy with these bots and what have you. No. Sounds cool. Good stuff, man. But, yeah, I I would say, just overall, just good stuff. You know, we were just talking about, basically, yeah, everyone just went crazy. It was all like, oh, everything's going up. And then I was like, oh, guys. It's the end of the world. Trying to find balance, and the last space that I was on ended with, like, some positive feel good. Hey. Go call your mom. Go hug someone you love and all sorts of stuff. So was like, yeah. That's where we're at right now, so it's all good. But, yeah, happy to be here with the rest of the crew and whatever we're gonna dive into today. All the good stuff. Definitely, you know, it kinda goes in with the whole theme of the emotional trader. Emotions are something that we all have to control and regulate. And when it comes to trading, it's not necessarily the best things like oil and water, but it is what it is. Just trying to find balance. Balance. Balance. Balance.
[0:09:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Balance. Balance. Balance. Good one. That's for sure. Oh my god. I wish I could find the balance. Balance. Balance. It'd be amazing. Cool. I don't know. Are you back up? You there?
[0:10:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: All good. All good. All good. But... Yeah, man. What's up? Oh. Yeah. So sorry. Sorry, Jay. Sorry. Sorry. My my phone kept disconnecting. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. What's good, man? No. I'm good. I'm good, man. Happy happy Monday. Happy New Week, man. What's going on? How you guys doing? We're chilling, bro. What'd you make of the of the promo? Your hunger games quote. I like that one. It was like, it's a hunger games out here, man. Every man for them to survive. You gotta be on your own. You like it? Man, you're on your own, man. I mean, that's that's how it is. This game is nasty out here, man. It's... We we we in a very weird place because, you know, people are making money, people are losing money, and it's it's Wawa West, man. And I just think survival of the fittest, man. That's 2026 market right now. Yeah. That's for sure
[0:10:47] chromatique @chromatique: for
[0:10:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: sure. Alright. Let's maybe get into some of the stories while we wait for everybody else to get here, and then we find or let everybody know that they're a 100% on probation. Landy's fired. Monica's fired. Toast Malone is definitely fired. Coma, still on probation. I guess we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. But, Natalie, I like how everybody's on time for the Wolf spaces, though. Everyone's on time for the Wolf Terminal spaces. The Wolf Terminal trading spaces. Everybody's there buttoned up. Hey, man. Find me here. This is where I'm at. ATC.
[0:11:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Mhmm. That's because we're
[0:11:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Don't make me get in my field.
[0:11:27] NatNat @Natnatx007: We're all rushing to call it. That's why.
[0:11:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do you think they they getting paid maybe, like, you know, a parent's fee would be 2 k per appearance, maybe? That could be the reason why. I mean, if I know anything about the Wolfspaces, they are definitely not paying any of these speakers. I'll tell you that right now.
[0:11:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: We do it for free 99, my friend. Free 99.
[0:11:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: Exactly.
[0:11:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: I guess they're... They got something over there, like, that makes them feel special. Maybe they don't have a host that talks too often, or maybe they are... They're allowed to run the show. Maybe that's what it is. Who knows? I guess we'll see. Shout out to the wolf terminal guys. Landon, welcome. What's up, bro?
[0:12:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Y'all get paid?
[0:12:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: You get paid?
[0:12:08] Landy @CryptoLandy: Just kidding. Well, it's good to see everybody. I'm glad I could make it today. I, usually, this time of year when I'm doing contract work, I am doing things like what I mentioned here last week, interviews. But I have found that, many of the applicants
[0:12:36] Landy @CryptoLandy: are not good. So I decided to, call it a day a little early today. A lot of unqualified individuals applying for jobs that are well well over what what they should be applying for. Okay. I respect the hustle, maybe?
[0:12:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Maybe?
[0:12:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Maybe. Not sure. Nice. I'm doing good. It's good to see everybody.
[0:13:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff. Natalie, could we start with Bitcoin? Like, I know... Like, maybe, like... Let's let's maybe fill some people in. I know you and I were chatting over the weekend, looking at... You know, trying to find wherever opportunities lie. Right? So when it... When we looked at Bitcoin and it was, like, I think it was three or 400 points above on vest. Like, the mid price was, like, three or 400 points above wherever, like, the actual index price was trading at. And I'm curious, like, meaning, like, hey. So the street is saying, like, they're they're they're predominantly, like, net long. What was the story with Bitcoin? How did we end up here? I think would we end up down, like, a percent or percent and a half today? What's the deal?
[0:13:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: On BTC? Well, remember when you and I, we were looking at the chart and we mentioned, hey. And I mentioned, hey, Dave. There is resistance at this level. One second. Let me pull up my chart. It was about $83,834.04. If I remember correctly.
[0:14:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah.
[0:14:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. We got slightly above it. But you... Do you do you remember on the spaces where I always mention the closest matter with the with the candle body closest matter because BTC is known to wick above but also close below? So it... That's a lot of what happened today. Right? So right now, there is resistance still. It moved up... Hold on one second. There is resistance now at eighty three seven hundred. So we need to break $83,700 for hire. Eighty three seven five two on the daily, if you look at the daily. But there's also support below us at 82, slightly above 82. It's So gonna be very interesting to see how it plays out. Bitcoin is really tight. It is... It has been... If you zoom out, it hasn't really done much within the last few weeks here. Let me bring up the weekly chart. And, Landy, feel free to chime in as well. So if we look at the... We have one, two, three three weeks. This is ranging between $87,300 and 80,000. Right? So we have three weeks within this range. This week just started. Right? So it's gonna be very interesting to see how it plays out. But the key area, as I've mentioned to you yesterday, or, I mean, the day before, in order for it to go higher, it has to break the short term resistance, but it also has to break the the... That big resistance at $87,300, which is what we were... We covered as well on the space with Taj. There is there is liquidity building to the topside and also to the downside. To the top side, you have spot liquidity that's building at 90 k and above, but on perp side, you have a lot of liquidity that's been building at that 60... That mid 60 range. So it's really simple if you zoom out on your chart. Now that you look at charts, my friend, Trader Dave, there is liquidity. You you see those wicks to the bottom? That liquid... That's liquidity. Right? Then 60... One second. Let me just... 64, 63, even into the sixties. Right? So it's low... Lower sixties. So it's gonna be very interesting to see how it all plays out. The line... There is liquidity in the middle as well as we covered on the stream with Lady Trader on Friday, seventy seven k. There's a big volume spike at that area. If you look at Market Monkey Terminal, there's a spike right at 77 k. So I wouldn't rule out a scenario in which we come down, grab that liquidity. However, for me, the line in the sand is 74 k. Right? I know a lot of people are looking at 75, but there's a... There's an exponential moving average. There's a moving average right below it at 74 k. And in certain cases, these moving average tend to serve as some kind of a short term support. Right? Because you get those initial reaction from them. Right? So, hence, 74 k being the line in the sand for me. Overall, it's gonna be very interesting. Right? There's a lot that we wanna see on the chart. The first thing that we wanted to see was that weekly close above 70 to 800. The problem is that while we did try to move higher, there was no acceptance higher. And while we did create the... Some distance, the distance has now closed. So it makes BTC here very interesting with the liquidity that's building on on both sides in... With spots, but also on the perv side. And with the kind of time that that we're in. Typically, when we see a bear market, the minimum... And I can't stress this enough. We... And we've spoken about this on on few spaces. Right? The minimum of the bear mark... The the minimum time bear market last... So the duration, the minimum is twelve months. There has been certain cases, certain years in which there has been more. Right? Maybe this this time is different. Maybe this time we did bottom a little bit earlier. I would need... As I've been saying all year long, for me, I need to see closures above 100 k to completely invalidate any of of the extreme lower lower target for me. Right? But that's one thing I'm keeping my eye on. Those two things. Right? The liquidity that's building on on both sides and where BTC currently is. I think as the week progresses, I think we'll we'll kinda see... I think BTC is gonna give us a move, to be honest. We're gonna see a move on BTC, whether it's to the upside or to the downside, similarly when we were around, the mid sixties. Remember, we were low sixties, actually. We were hanging low sixties. We had a space. We said, hey, guys. Right? BTC is gonna give us a big move. Above 65 k, if we start to see closes above 65 k, it opens the door to higher. What did BTC do? It ripped above 65 k with some strength, some volume, and we're higher. So now we're seeing the same thing. It's not doing much. It's... We've had weeks within this big range, 80 k, 87 k. We're getting close to that time in which BTC is gonna make a decision, and it's gonna break one way or the other. I'm sure Landy has some stuff he wants to add to it as well.
[0:18:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. I mean, that's a really good assessment. There's... For me, personally, closes below the monthlies or back inside the monthlies, you know, 82 and a half and below, on daily closes especially. Gonna point back towards that, you know, 80 to eighty one three locally that was tapped liquidity last week. You know, if it does continue down below there, you know, I'm gonna essentially kinda stick to my guns at about $2,000 at a time, in the lower term time frames, not necessarily the dailies, but, you know, below 80, 76, 78, and then it's all about the monthly 74 to 76. And that more recent low at 75, while those areas can be swept, you need to see them closed above in my personal opinion. And or if they are closed below on daily time frames, it needs to be pretty quickly recaptured by the bulls to prevent a fall towards, you know, 70 to 72. And, realistically, that that would be the next kind of medium term area below the big monthly levels in the mid seventies, because, you know, it... It's... The danger there is that it bounces, retest the monthly bearishly, and then we're we're looking right back into the mid to upper sixties as the next bigger area of interest, like 65 to 68. But while Bitcoin is still inside of the monthly, holding on to the monthly, so even if it does fall through, 80 k, if it's still inside of that mid seventies in the monthly, it still has the opportunity to over... You know, to... Over time to test further up and even stronger of an opportunity on close above 82.5, $83,000. I mentioned last week on Thursday that, you know, the overhead resistance for me, was essentially 83 to 85. I need to see kinda closes start to get above 85 to be interested in the overhead area of interest around the big weeklies that Bitcoin did test, between 86 89. It's big weekly zone, and that and I've talked about it quite a lot. You know, anywhere towards that weekly, the highs are fair game, 87 and a half inside of that weekly, but it's all about getting continuation for the bulls above there. 88 to 90 is what they need to not only just hit, which would be a viable target above the more recent highs at 87 and a half, but they need to get closes above there. Daily is possibly even a weekly close above there to start pushing the mid nineties, 93 and a half, to ninety three six at the next big weekly area and potentially have a shot at maybe a 100 k, you know, 98 to a 100 because there is a big weekly zone overhead of the weeklies that we're currently rejecting from. But if we do retrace from here and hold the monthly, that all remains a a a big possibility, and it's gonna be about watching the weekly. So I think that, you know, we... We've... We're in a daily downtrend now. We've got lower lows, probably looking, you know, even a slightly lower high up there into lower lows. This could be another lower high. So if we do head down, I'm just gonna be very carefully watching, you know, 80 and under to see if we get daily closes under there. And it's the same kind of rules. If we hit under there, it's $2,000 at a time. But if we can come out and survive any kind of tests to the downside and the bulls can pull through and start bidding it back up above the monthly. For sure, I think that, you know, the highs, at 87.5 to $88.90 are fair game, like, fully fair game, especially if we do tap that downside liquidity first. But if we start to lose it and then put in, you know, a daily that leads into, like, a weekly correction, which from what I'm looking at is viable if we start to lose that monthly and especially come out the bottom side of that, $74.04... $74,000 area on closes on dailies. Anywhere on there in the weekly is a clean break. And we're looking 70 to 72 and then the sixties again. Right? Like, that that is that is exactly what we're looking at. And for everyone that, you know, is is very bullish about the macro lows being in, they'd start sweating. Even if it's... Turns out to be like a higher, lower, equal low because we do have a trending structure break on higher term time frames. So, I'm actually looking forward to seeing tiers on the timeline again. So I think the sooner, the better. I would like to see some volatility. It's getting boring. Getting so boring that I've literally built out an AI, trading agent testing platform for people. So, like, that's how boring it's gotten in in terms of trade. I'm over here in equities going, man, why am I even trading crypto anymore? Because equities are just printing like crazy.
[0:24:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: Hell yeah.
[0:24:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Everybody is like, oh my god. Like, I love crypto because I can do leverage. You can't make that kind of money in markets as if they've never heard of options contracts. Oh, that's because they haven't heard of options contracts. But, you know, it's like, it's so much more fun over there right now. And, you know, I'm I'm I'm, bullish on being bearish on NFTs. I'm waiting to to become really ultra bearish and tell people that it's all over, and and then dance on graves, if we break down and and and wallow in their tears. And then, you know, I'd still be looking for a higher low on the macro time frame, confirm a macro low, and that's that's kind of my first base case, on longer term time frames while everybody's crying and selling the lows. So I kinda hope that we see that sooner rather than later than later looking forward.
[0:24:59] Dave @DCBK2LA: Could we get a could we get a link to this trading, like, agent thing you said for people to test out there?
[0:25:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wow. Oh, so you would like a link. This is where the shield comes in.
[0:25:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: Send a link.
[0:25:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: So where you will be able to test out the the AI agent trading platform, you will get free access to it by joining the free Discord Candle Cartel. And if you join the Candle Cartel, you go in there to get into the VIP section. You go and you join our exchange partner, which is free, which is BTCC. You get some deposit bonuses, all that stuff. You set up your account. You confirm your UID. You get dropped into the chats with myself, Bits of Wealth, and Tradefly, and other traders that are doing analysis and education and calling out setups and stuff like that. That will also get you an alpha preview of my AI agent trading platform that you can test in. It's live trading, in terms of live prices. It is a paper account. It's not connected to any exchanges, and there is no real orders that are going through. It's for strategy testing for AI aiding, AI trading agents and bots. So, essentially, what you can do... There's a full paper trading platform in there. It's got live price feed. It's aggregated. Like, if you were to look at, TradingView, you know how it aggregates all the tickers together now for multiple tickers and kinda gives you a smoothed out price. This is doing the same thing. But the the cool thing is is, like, when you're doing a lot of paper trading, it doesn't really reflect what's happening in the markets, in terms of funding rates and, and your maker taker fees and, like, all that kind of stuff. So this is all built in there so that you can actually get the real numbers for the agents to train on so that they're not just testing from, like, zero... In a zero fee environment like they would with a back test of a strategy. They can get in there. They can formulate a strategy. You can come in. You hook up your your agent via MCP or or Webhooks and... Or WebSocket or REST or whatever, and then it can, it can backtest its strategy there. If it hasn't already backtested on its own, it can then move it through a candidate process from back test to, ready to test to valid and, like, all these other things, and then actually test it out in the platform and and take trades there, whether they're single sided trades, long only, short only, bracket trades, you know, long and short. It can use leverage. You know, it can do all of the things that you would do on a typical exchange. Anything that you could think of, it can do there. The reason why I built it is because, you know, some people were doing this with the API data in a demo account on exchanges, and then there's just... You you don't get the robust, you you gotta, like... You... You're spending a bunch of, a bunch of, tokens to actually make it go. Right? So that it's constantly monitoring price and monitoring the position and doing this and doing that. What this allows your agent to do is get into the testing platform, lock down a strategy, and then utilize the platform to create basically a a rules based set that it can deploy and then just have to check-in for heartbeats as that strategy is running with its own account on a live exchange. So there's some limitations to the way that live exchanges work and DEXs work, and they all work a little bit different. This is just a way for you to get in and get, like, real price data, in an environment where it's customizable to emulate, whether it be a crypto exchange or even m t five, if you wanna do m t five. Because I still trade using m t five for forex markets and commodities markets, and it'll allow you basically to do all of that. And you can you you can, you can essentially just download the packages for yourself and then, you know, run them locally. So it's just running on your local host machine with no outside connections other than the, the price feeds, money rate fees, and all that.
[0:29:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my goodness. Real quick. Real quick. Okay.
[0:29:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Now you know you wanna know what what what to do? You really wanna test your agent?
[0:29:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No.
[0:29:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. You wanna test your agent?
[0:29:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I... I'll I'll figure it out
[0:29:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: when I
[0:29:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: get into Discord. I'll figure it out when I get into Discord. We gotta get No.
[0:29:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm pitching you on No.
[0:29:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. No. That's a
[0:29:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: And if you wanna make money, you test it.
[0:29:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Fair enough.
[0:29:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: So, Landy, walk me through. So I'd sign up... No. I'm kidding. Dave is gonna
[0:29:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I will literally start from the beginning.
[0:29:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Stop it. Okay. The alpha gamer, say what's up, bro. It's been... That's enough now. That's enough. Alpha gamer, what is good, bro? How are doing?
[0:29:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: Are you rich, man?
[0:30:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That was that was so good, dad. What's up, bad dad? Cool. ATC people, Landy, everybody. I was I was laughing. Man, that that was... I... To be honest, I was there with you until the very end, and then, like, my brain turned off. And I... And then I was like, I couldn't
[0:30:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: hear
[0:30:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: anymore. But, no, it actually sounds interesting, especially the, you know, integrating the AI into it and everything. But I will say, sir, that was... You're offending the Bitcoin degens because Derabit, that... You know, bit... I'm I'm I'm pretty sure they have some pretty high volumes going through that platform. No. Not. You know, trading options. The options... How dare they, sir? How dare they?
[0:30:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: The spreads are garbage. The options are garbage. The pricing is garbage.
[0:30:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I didn't say they were good. I didn't say they were good. I just... They had options.
[0:31:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Illiquid options are not an option.
[0:31:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But... Yeah. It's a... That is true. That that is actually very true. But it... Yeah. It's a sunny, beautiful day in the bay. We got some
[0:31:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: it's a beautiful thing, man. You know? Just breathing clean air. You don't appreciate it until you go down south and you go, what is that yellow green cloud? And then you come back up here and you're like, oh, yeah. We don't have none of that up here. But, yeah, I just had to shout out SoCal. You know?
[0:31:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: SoCal is better than But...
[0:31:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah, man. What... What's that, Landy?
[0:31:47] Landy @CryptoLandy: I said SoCal is much better than NorCal.
[0:31:52] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, come on. You you wanna you wanna know what... Will we have a bundle up here that they don't have down there? Do you do you know what it is?
[0:32:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Water.
[0:32:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Exactly. Water. The thing that brings life to all humans. Yeah. We got a lot of it. We're, like, 90% full in all our reservoirs up here. If we didn't send anything down the aqueduct, you guys would all just, you know, die from thirst. So, you know, it is what it is.
[0:32:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Gamer, you have anything anything you're looking at now in the markets? What's going on?
[0:32:31] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I did hear from a little birdie something about Near and, like, privacy. Like, Near and and... It seems like this private... Ever since the, you know, Zcash has has gone up, a lot of this shielded, you know, aka shielded stuff is going around now. You know, like, they're proposing shielded Bitcoin. I don't I don't know if you guys saw, but shielded shielded knockers did, like, 700%. I guess that was, like, the first one to, you know, try this new shielded thing out. So that was, like, the easy seven x from Mint. But now I'm hearing, you know, other chains are are starting to... You know, privacy is being more talked about. But I... But I'm hearing, you know, chatter about Near, and I... And I'm I'm almost wondering that's why, you know... Or not not not why, but one of the reasons why Near has been pumping like crazy recently. Right? But, yeah, that'll be kinda interesting if they got a privacy... You know, essentially taking Zcash's shielded privacy and then put... Start putting it on the other blockchains. That... That'll be interesting. Yeah. That that... That's what I've been hearing for, like, the privacy stuff. Of course, it's still Monero. Right? That's still... It's the king of privacy, but still, you know, at least you're... We're getting public chains with some sort of privacy aspect getting put
[0:34:08] Dave @DCBK2LA: onto the... I think you're... Think what you're talking about is called near intents. I still haven't looked into, like, exactly what it does, but I heard that there's been hacks, like, numerous hacks. People...
[0:34:19] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, already? Yeah. Oh, wow.
[0:34:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Como was actually one of the victims of, like, sadly enough. But... Yeah.
[0:34:26] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, like, he... Like, they got into his wallet? Yep. Through... Like, through it? Oh, that's not good. Oh. Oh. Well... Oh, okay. Well, never mind then.
[0:34:39] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. So be careful with what
[0:34:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Where you're be.... Kinda freaked it. Yeah. Now I'm gonna freak... Okay. Now I gotta go... Yeah. Now I'm kinda freaked out about that. Thanks. Thanks, Dave.
[0:34:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. You got it, bro. You got it. Yeah. We have firsthand experience here. Coma got... Yeah. The near intense thing was was kinda wild. But, yeah, be safe out here. Be safe out here. Alright. Natalie, selfishly, gonna ask you, what are we looking at in terms of the... Of NQ right now? Are we long, short? What's the deal? What do you... What what what... Any side you're on right now?
[0:35:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: Well, since you asked, now that you insist, what I've noticed with NQ, especially the last few times, it has been just sweeping liquidity. Oh, do you have your chart pulled up in front of you? Yeah. Okay. Go to the four hour. You see the
[0:35:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't have I don't have that.
[0:35:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, but if you're on vest,
[0:35:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: you should
[0:35:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: be able to see it.
[0:35:41] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Wanna say I just wanna say I'm proud of you, Dave, for finally taking the squiggly lines, you know, accepting it.
[0:35:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: The herp and dirt.
[0:35:51] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You know, it only took you a couple years to finally see the light, but so I'm proud of you, Dave.
[0:35:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: I wish I could I wish I could say that I did, but I'm just looking at a chart. It's not the chart that Nat wants me to be looking at, and it's definitely not how I've been trading. So... Yeah. Oh, what the hell? I did not mute anybody. But, yeah, Gamer. Good try, though. Nat, go ahead.
[0:36:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. So if you have your vast, chart pulled up and you're looking at the candles, like, if you have n cue pulled up, you have a screen in the middle, And on the side, on the top corner, on the top left, it should say the hours. Right? So the one hour, the four hour. Do you see that?
[0:36:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep.
[0:36:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: Okay. So switch to the four hour.
[0:36:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay.
[0:36:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Alright. So do you see... There was a candle on the October 9... Big October 9 candle, and then previous to that... So, like, if you if you put the mouse on it, it'll tell you the dates. Right? So previous to that, there was a October 8 candle. You with me? Yeah. Okay. Yep. Look at the October 8 candle. You see that wick to the top side and the wick to the bottom side?
[0:37:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: October 8. Yeah. I do.
[0:37:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: So the the the top portion that's empty where there's, like, it's thin, that's liquidity. The bottom portion where it's empty, that's all... Where it's thin, it's also liquidity. So last night, the price... You see how it got closest? See how it swept the liquidity to the top side? What was the top of that candle? It was $3,130.09. Zero Yeah. So that's what it did. It swept the liquidity. So now you see the thin line to the bottom?
[0:37:30] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, $30,007.08 7, $78.07 or whatever?
[0:37:36] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yes. And you see how we got closed today... Close to it today? So it's, like, the majority of that liquidity. So now what I'm waiting to see, does it come back? Because it's trying to move, but it's... It keeps on getting sold off. You see that? The candle is slightly green and then going red. Slightly green and going red. So now I wanna see if we do go ahead and sweep the remainder of that liquidity and then go long. The other thing too is if you look at... The reason why I'm looking to see if it suits all of the liquidity in order for us to go long, look at the October 6, October 6 candle. It's green. You see that? Put the mouse on. It's like the one at the top that looks like a cross.
[0:38:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.
[0:38:17] NatNat @Natnatx007: You see how that thin line to the top, that liquidity has not been swept?
[0:38:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Let's say, yeah, 31. That's the hot... That's the all time high.
[0:38:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Exactly. So those are two areas of interest that I am looking at. Right? So if we come that... So one thing that I'm looking... One thing I've noticed with NQ is does a really good job sweeping liquidity on the four hour candle. So last night when I was talking to you and I said I'm long, it's because I was looking for a sweep at the top. But, you know, being that... It's new, so liquidity is key. They need the liquidity. This is, like, with all of the exchanges. Right? So when I put my my stop loss, guess what guess what it did? It would stop me out, and then when the when the position, I I I wanted wanted it to. But it's also my fault. My my stop was too tight. Going forward, maybe a looser stop will prevent that from happening. But see how it swept the liquidity to the top side, and it came down and swept the liquidity to the to the downside. To the... It swept the liquidity to the upside, and then it swept the liquidity to the downside. Right? So now two key areas of interest for me would be the bottom of that wick. If we start to lose or close below the bottom of that wick, then chances are we are going higher. Sorry. Chances are we're going lower. But if we start... So for example, this four hour candle, if this four hour candle closes here or above, then I'm looking for a retest of today's high or last night highs, which is $3,130.09. Does that make sense? It has been sweeping the top side of these candles.
[0:39:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it. Now as far as sizing goes, right, because I know there's a bunch of people in here that did open accounts and shout out to you guys for using the ATC code. Appreciate you guys. That are maybe, like, handling eval accounts now. Like, how do you size your position? Right? Because if people are playing with 10,000 maybe in an eval account or 25,000 with daily loss limits and everything else, how do you size properly, Nat?
[0:40:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's also a great question. That... And that's one thing I I did today. So on the... On... If you're someone that is new, and you're new to trading NQ... Because we've traded a whole bunch of stuff throughout the years, but, NQ, not as much. This is the... This is around the time where... This is the most I've treated NQ. But if you're new and this is your very first time, I will suggest, bring the leverage down to 10 x and then do 25 maximum. 2025% of of the the portfolio. Right? Because you see how you have leverage 30, you could crank it up, and then you have 25, 50, 75, or 100% of the funds. What I did earlier that worked out beautifully this morning on the 25K account was 10 x 25. So even on the pullback on that that that horrible candle that we got, my account is still intact because of the sizing. Right? On the on the 10K account, once I did the 30 k and 25, so I left the 25. On both the 10 k and the 25 k account, I left them both at 25. The reason why I cranked up the leverage on the 10 k account is because I saw it, sweep a portion of that candle, and we had... So you see the bottom side of the chart? You see the green lines and the red lines? Earlier today, there was a big green line indicating big buy volume, so we're able to take advantage of that big green line come in. So... And I posted it in in... On on the timeline. Right? Because of that, and I was pairing it with my chart, pairing it with the liquidity, I felt confident enough to go long here, hence the 30 x. But if so... If you're new and this is your first prop account, the first time trading trading in queue, just keep it small. Remember, you don't have... There's no rule that says you have to pass the evaluation in one day. Right? Let it take as long as it needs to take. Right? You have your 10 k, 10 x leverage, and then keep it at 25. You think 25% of the portfolio is too much? Just bring it down. The key is putting it... Putting the numbers into an area that you're not stressed out or putting a number in numbers into an area that you're okay. I'm okay here because even if I lose, it's not gonna blow up the account because of the size.
[0:42:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I think also, like, what what I started out, I remember, like, I just did one enqueue. And that's why I know if I'm doing one n q, I get to see easily how my p and l moves up and down because it's a dollar a point at that point. Right? So you get to easily see how much you're making and losing via the swings that could potentially happen. So just obviously be cognizant that if it's $5 a point or $12 a point or $18 a point, it's a very... Excuse me. It's a very different game. Much tighter stops or much tighter market sweeps, right, to the point where you have to be staring at this screen. So be super smart just to kinda get the feel for it. Use one in queue. See how it moves up and down. If you're in profit, take your profit. You know? Well, on to the next trade.
[0:43:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: You know? So One in queue, one ten x because the leverage is also important. Right? Because if you do, like, 50 x, the liquidation is still gonna be tight. Makes sense?
[0:43:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: 100%.
[0:43:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: Landon, anything else to add?
[0:43:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. Not really. I mean, I think that if you're gonna be sizing, you need to determine what you're willing to risk, and you should have a plan. Right? So you should know how much you're willing to risk, and you should calculate what the, desired risk to reward ratio is for how much you're gonna either lose if it's a losing trade or, make if it's a winning trade. You need to know those things before you have the trade.
[0:44:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Do do you have a do you have a minimum RR ratio that you're going... Like, like, that they should be heading for or just anything goes?
[0:44:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Depends on the setup. Right? Different setups and different methodologies are gonna have different risk to reward ratios. So if it's a higher risk setup, you know, it might be I
[0:44:23] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: like three.
[0:44:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, it
[0:44:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I like I like three r r.
[0:44:26] NatNat @Natnatx007: It it depends, No?
[0:44:29] Landy @CryptoLandy: If I'm scalping, I'm I'm okay with a... You know, risking a smaller amount for a 1.2 or 1.5.
[0:44:38] Dave @DCBK2LA: And when you guys say r r, risk to reward ratio. Yeah.
[0:44:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. One is... One rises to 1.2 or 1.5 is fine. It is risking a smaller amount, for a scalp position... And I see a lot of folks that actually go in very, very big on small risk to reward ratio trades, and that's how they blow up their accounts because they try to scalp with a very large amount instead of having repeated success to get to the goal that they're trying to make or set... Or they've set for themselves for profit. They try to do it all in one shot, and they get blown up. And you So
[0:45:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: guys wanna know a little... Great take, Landy. You wanna know a little alpha how you can use, like, Grok or what... Whatever it is that you use to help with this? You can... Grok is really good at, like... All all AI agents or LLMs are really good with this. You can ask Grock. If you don't really understand what we're talking about, you can ask Grock to break down NQ for you, and then you can take a screenshot of the the the the vast screen, and you can literally ask it. You could tell it what what it is that you wanna accomplish. You could tell it what your risk to reward is. You could tell them what your risk tolerance is, and it will tell you one n q or two n q low leverage, and it'll break down why low leverage. If your risk tolerance is really high, it'll still tell you to caution, but it'll give you, you know, the the 30 x with, and it and it'll suggest the sizing for you. Right? Not saying go blindly into it. Right? You have to go back and back test and see whether or not this setup actually does work well for you. But just to break things down in to layman's terms and how NQ works and what the difference between the minis and the macros and the sizing of what does one NQ mean, what does two NQ mean, what is the... How does it factor into the 10 x, how much money would I make on every take if I bought three n queues? All of that stuff, you can actually ask your AI agent or your LLM, and it'll break it down for you nicely.
[0:46:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, I I I use Grock for so many of these things. Right? Like, in the beginning, it was like, Grock, I don't wanna do the math. But, like, if I'm using 30 x leverage, right, on a 10 k or a 25 k count, whatever it was, right, like, how much is my... Like like, what am I... Like, if I put on that position, right, what is... What am I what am I potential to lose? How much out of the... How much space do I have considering my daily loss limit, considering my daily drawdown? Right? Like... And it tells you, like, the exact amount of room that you have so you can formulate the best possible trade with the best possible stops. And, obviously, like, you heard these guys talk about earlier. Right? Your your risk reward ratio has to be there as well. I think sometimes...
[0:47:33] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But but, Dave, I will I will say though, if you're if you're just learning now and starting out, I wouldn't be even going up into those, you know, upper leverage, percentages. Right? I I would start really small, right, just to learn everything, because you will get blown out. Right? And, you know, there's a reason why we're seeing these $400,000,000 longs getting liquidated, you know, on a on a 2% move. Right? That automatically tells you, oh, damn. These guys are trading on 50 x leverage. Right? We only moved 2%, and they got wiped out. So, you know, that that just goes to show that there's a lot of people out here trying to flex with these 50 x, 33 x, you know, and just getting completely annihilated. So, really, you know, what I was told is, you know, start small. You know, prove yourself. Right? Like, turn a dollar into $10. Do that multiple times without losing. Right? And then $10 into a $100. Do that multiple times. You know what I mean? But this whole thing of, you know, people just wanna, you know, go big or go home. Oh, you're gonna go home alright. You're gonna get, you know, blown out and and just lose everything, and then you got you got nothing. Right? So, you know, don't be don't be shamed like two x. Right? Like, you got a nice buffer. Right? 50% buffer. You know? And then three x. And then, you know, it's it's baby steps. Right? But the the... But, you know, don't get it twisted. If you're out here, you've never touched this stuff, and you're out here thinking, oh, I'm gonna go a 100 x. I'm I'm going big. Yeah. You're you're you're gonna go home really fast.
[0:49:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: And prop accounts are are
[0:49:21] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You know, throw in that.
[0:49:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Are a great way for you to learn as well. Right? Because you're not using $25,000 of your own money. Right? You're paying, like, what... I don't even... What what is it? Like, a $100 or or less for the 10 k, and then slightly higher for the 25 k, but it's a great way for you to learn how to trade with other people's money, knowing how to manage your risk to reward ratio, knowing how to size correctly. Because the sizing is a sizing is a sizing across the board, whether it's real money or fake money. Right? But it's a great way to learn.
[0:49:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: So you're saying size matters?
[0:49:56] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, size does matter.
[0:49:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Slim it down. Sim it down. Sim it down now. Sim it down. Yeah. Seriously. Guys, you can also... By the way, like, you can get a 10 k account, right, for... I think it's, like, $33. Right? Like, 10, it... It's a two step one, but at the end of the day, you'll... And you'll have some daily loss limits or whatever. But it's a, the two step one rather is $33. You have access to 10,000 that you could then use as much leverage as you want, but that'll... Like, listen to what these guys are saying. Use it as a teaching tool so that you can kinda just tinker with the knobs a little bit. Right? Like, don't go full fledged 50... And be careful because they default to 50 x, right, when you open the account. So be smart and make sure that you're changing it. Yeah. Milo, go ahead, man. What's up?
[0:50:43] Milo @0dteSPY: My only comment is you're going to lose. You're not gonna win every trade.
[0:50:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: If you think you're
[0:50:48] Milo @0dteSPY: gonna win every trade, you've already lost.
[0:50:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: Absolutely. That's 100% true. So a lot of people, and I absolutely love that you say that, the emotion comes with the losing trade. Well, both, technically, because you get really, really excited with the winning trade, you're like, it's never gonna end. It's only up only only from here, and I'm never gonna lose again, and I'm never gonna see below this amount again. Discipline discipline is created with those with those losing moments. Right? That's how you learn the discipline. You learn how to that's how you learn how to minimize risk. It is the losing moments that teach you how to win. It's like I tell I tell my kids, you have to learn how to lose before you you win. Right? Because my... Here's the thing. My my my daughter plays, soccer, and she starts to... She she doesn't like to lose. Right? No kid likes to lose. And one thing my husband and I, we sat down. We we told her, we're like, hey. Losing is part of it. You are going to lose. The losing moments are the moments that teach you the most, not only about the game, but about yourself. Right? So I absolutely love that you brought that up. And, obviously, you enjoy the the winnings, but the the losing portion is where, you know, you figure it out. You learn a lot.
[0:52:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: If you're gonna essentially really enjoy the, like, the sweet, sweet smell of victory, you have to have felt the agony of defeat in order to, like, really, really appreciate it. So, yeah, kudos to that, Nat. Yeah. 100%. If you start putting trades on, then next thing you know, you think you're freaking Superman, mister Invincible out here. I assure you, you are not. You are not. And, Natalie, can you... Can we rewind and then have you call me last night and then tell me this exactly? So this way, I wouldn't have lost, like, the $500 that I did. And my, yeah, my day pretty much ruined because I started trying to revenge trade. And
[0:52:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: You didn't
[0:52:46] Dave @DCBK2LA: screwed my whole day up.
[0:52:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. You didn't tell me what you were doing.
[0:52:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're right. You're right. Idea. I know. I know. Guys, don't be emotional. Do not be like me or emotional.
[0:52:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: As I tell people never to revenge trade, but some of my best trades that I've ever done were revenge trades. I'm not not lying. It's kinda wild.
[0:53:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: But you know what it is? It's like... Also, it's like, you know what you feel like? You feel like the degenerate at, like, the blackjack table that's like, oh, y'all just double my bet. I'm just gonna double the bet. Just gotta work this out. I'm just gonna double the bet this. And, like, you... Like, I see and hear myself, and I'm... I had to forcibly, like, be aware and be like, stop. Step away from the computer for a second. You're obviously not reading this the right way, and you're literally just throwing darts at a dartboard. Enough. Like, take a breather. And sometimes you have to walk away to be able to understand it. But, yeah, Landy, we're trying to tell people not to revenge trade. I don't tell people that
[0:53:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Never do it. I... The... But a couple of times I have had been some of the greatest trades that I've done. And one of them happened to be the Terra Luna trade because I I revenge traded it because I got... I was I was shorting and I got there a little early and got
[0:53:59] NatNat @Natnatx007: stopped out. That.
[0:54:00] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hell no. Yeah.
[0:54:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: I remember you saying that.
[0:54:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Down. I quadrupled. I went in with size enough that I was trying to move the market. I didn't move the market. But that was my... In my brain, that's what I was thinking is like, no. Screw it. So it was basically throwing... I was going all in and... For that account, at least. And it turned out to be my best short of the entire bear market.
[0:54:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: I could just imagine.
[0:54:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Of my other shorts that were fantastic shorts. And, well, obviously, he beat that one. I... So much so that I had to close in stages, and I was nervous that I wouldn't be able to exit the position because there was no liquidity. There was, like, liquidity was just getting just sucked out of that thing. And then they made some sort of an announcement that everything was gonna be fine. Liquidity flooding back in around, like, a dollar and something. And I was like, yes. Yes. I was literally in my house jumping up and down, and then and then I had to pay taxes.
[0:55:00] NatNat @Natnatx007: I could I could imagine you. I couldn't... Landy, I couldn't seriously imagine you at the computer when it was... When the trade was going the opposite direction. You're, like, putting more money in it. You're like, you're going down. I know you're going down. You're going down as it goes down.
[0:55:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: It it took my stop so quick because it was really volatile. And I I shorted the breakdown, and it just came right back only on that exchange, that I was on. And this was FedEx. That exchange got me with a wick because somebody tried to buy it back up on that exchange. That wick was nowhere else. I was so, so mad. I was like, I'm going to stop this liquidity pool out. But because they auto adjust those liquidity pools, you know, on most exchanges, you... The liquidity pool is assigned a set amount of liquidity, and it has to maintain that pair to maintain the peg, right, for the price action across exchanges and indexers and stuff. So I just I just started slamming, just slamming shorts. I was market... Usually, I'm I'm a limit guy. I don't like to pay the fees. Even if I know, that I'm gonna make money, I don't wanna pay the fees. So I was just slamming in shorts and just... I was I was actually physically angry because I knew it was such a good position. I didn't know it was gonna go to the way it did, by the way. This was this was at the highs, coming off of the highs. I was just looking for a major pullback, and I wanted to be in on it on a swing short side. But I I got physically angry to the point where I was like, I'm just gonna blow up this whole account if I have to to to get this this... These people out of the books here. And it ended up working out until I was, like, actually nervous that I wouldn't be able to exit the position, and then liquidity came flooding in. Because, like, for a while, you could hit... I I could... I was trying to, buy back to to exit the position trying to close, and it just would fail. Or it would give me, like, slippage quotes that were, like, just ridiculous. So it was, what a time. And that was... It... By the way, pay your taxes.
[0:57:09] NatNat @Natnatx007: We love taxes. Right, Dave?
[0:57:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Pay your taxes.
[0:57:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Love it.
[0:57:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: Pay your taxes. Look. If we we can
[0:57:16] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, and by the way, I don't know if you guys saw us.
[0:57:18] Landy @CryptoLandy: Trade like that? When you have a killer trade like that, you will you will have... They... If you don't pay your taxes, they will find you. Just put it that way.
[0:57:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Of course, they will find you. They found... What's his name? That tried to run, who was the big Bitcoin whale that ran to Puerto Rico? Like, caught his ass in... Oh, yeah. Forgot his name.
[0:57:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: I would not know anything about this. Is it Bitcoin whales? Puerto Rico?
[0:57:42] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I think it's Anyways.
[0:57:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: They they they ran from America to Puerto Rico. That make... That makes sense.
[0:57:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. Well... Yeah. And then... Because he went to the Puerto Rico, Cayman Island. Anyways.
[0:57:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Has to be another island. Definitely cannot be Puerto Rico. Well, it's
[0:57:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I don't know. I thought this was pretty funny, but 40% of workers earning over 300,000 live paycheck to paycheck. I thought I thought Dave would enjoy that one.
[0:58:13] Landy @CryptoLandy: That number has been pretty consistent since 2022.
[0:58:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, was this about last year in the year before?
[0:58:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: It was... In 2022, it was actually, like, 350 k to 400 k households. You had more than half were paycheck to paycheck, and that was with all the stimulus and all of the other things that were going on, and it just never recovered. They spend too much.
[0:58:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: Speaking of, I did wanna ask you this, Lynn, because, you know, DC, but this is outside my... Let's just leave it there. Right? But, the five k checks or the stimulus, what do you... Do you think that's gonna happen? You think it's a good thing?
[0:58:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, so one of the reasons why those checks were never gonna become a thing, and I said this before, is because you're when you... To do those types of payments, whether it be Doge, whether it be a 5 k dividend, whether it be any of these things, you have to have approval for the spending from congress. Like, treasury cannot issue it. You can get an executive... Maybe you can get an executive order to do it, but it'd be a one time thing, and it would... And it could be challenged in the courts, which could hold up the process because they can basically hamstring the the treasury. We saw this with the COVID stuff. Right? So during COVID, you might remember that when Trump first floated out, giving the American people money, you know, every man, woman, and child thing, it was not the first check was not just gonna be $1,200. It's gonna be a substantially higher amount. And when they first tried to go through it, congress wasn't gonna do anything. Trump was gonna do it himself through executive order, but they they... Basically, it was gonna be challenged, and and they were gonna challenge the the treasury in court to basically stop payment on anything. The same could be said of this. That's why you actually need congress. So if they really wanna do, because they've been talking about since before this administration was even in administration, they were talking about dividends. Dividend payments from the treasury, which essentially would be for the tariffs that are being collected, that that tariff income could be distributed as a dividend. This was... He ran on part of this as part of his agenda, and it's being revived now, obviously, in accordance to plan because they were planning on rolling this out. They've been planning it for a couple of years now, rolling out, floating this coming into the midterms because they knew as soon as the Doge stuff got hamstrung and and everyone's fighting over it and fighting against it, that they couldn't even carry enough support to issue any kind of checks from Doge. And Doge... A lot of people think like, oh, no. They said $2,000 checks per person from Doge from all the money they saved. That was Elon, and that was his number if they hit the goal for cutting. Now there is ways in which they can facilitate payments. It would get tied up in courts, which is why he's saying he would need the house and the senate to do it. Also, it's around midterms. So you offer up money, and people are like, you know, you hope you sway their vote. The interesting thing is
[1:01:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: that there is a pretty fat amount in the treasury that could handle that stuff. But then it becomes, okay, policy versus, repayment. A lot of people make a big deal about the debt. The debt isn't the problem. It's the repayment cadence and the interest on that debt. Right? And how often that debt comes up for for payment. Most of the debt is is domestic debt. Right? So when you see the national debt number, it's it's... 80% of that is domestic debt. So it's owned by companies and corporations and and, pensions and Social Security and everything else here domestically along with all of the major institutions that are holding that debt, and then and then, of course, the Fed. So it... It's... It would be interesting. Is it feasible? I think that congress, no matter what, wouldn't do it unless they can package that up into something that they could also use to spend a bunch of money on their special interests. So, you know, you're not gonna get a single bill through that's like, hey. Dividend payments for, you know, the American people based on these metrics, and the first one can go out as a $5,000 check. You would... You're not gonna get a bill like that. So congress would... They're never gonna do it, essentially, is what I'm saying. It's like, no matter what, they're gonna fight it because if they're gonna do that, then they are going to want to get their own spending in place for their special interests. And they're... They'll call it for their constituents, but it's really, none of it... Almost none of it goes to their constituents. So... And this is true of Democrats or Republicans. So even if the Republicans... This is my main criticism of Republicans. They don't do anything. Democrats are pretty good at doing things, but none of them do anything in terms of coming together to get something done in terms of an agenda. Democrats are much better than Republicans at doing it, but neither of them are doing anything for us. Right? That's been proven out outside of spending. Right? That's the only thing they know how to do and can can agree on. So do I think that Trump could find a way to make it happen and try to make it happen? Yes. He needs congress, though. And even if he gets congress, my contention is that congress will tie it up with a bunch of BS, and then he'll have to go around... The the advantage there is is if he goes around congress and does it by executive order, then he... There's different legal paths for him to do so, it's much less of a risk that you're gonna get a bunch of congresspeople pushing for challenges in the courts. Right? So if you have a Republican house and Republican congress, you're you're gonna see less pushback if he was to go the executive order route than in, in a Democrat congress. So then the natural the natural question is then why not do it now? Well, because the congress now has been woefully, disappointing in terms of the administration's view of congress because they have a house, the senate, the the presidency, primarily conservative supreme court, and nothing is... It it... Congress is doing nothing, essentially. So, and we've we've experienced this in the crypto space. Congress has done absolutely nothing. And every time they have done something from the Democrat and Republican side, they've tried to sabotage the crypto space, and crypto legislation and muddy the waters. And now we're in a situation where we've had to add the CFTC and the SEC chairs actually take the ball in their own court and start moving things forward to try and force their hands. They tried it the right way, and that was go through congress. And this is where I do give the administration some points on that. Try to go through congress. Try to get them to do their job. When they don't, then we're gonna utilize, the agencies, and the the the regulators, in place that we already have that we know will implement those agendas and then essentially try to force congress.
[1:06:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Did you text them? I did. Okay. Thank you, Landy. So the reason... I don't... Let me just I think this is something that we do need to keep our eye on, especially, as you mentioned, midterms. Right? There's gonna be a lot of back and forth about this. And I believe Trump posted on True Social earlier today about the the five k, but it's gonna be very interesting to see how it plays out. Alright. So CPI, what do we think, guys? Do we think in line, hot, or cool?
[1:06:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: In line with forecast.
[1:06:47] NatNat @Natnatx007: Agreed. Alpha Gamer, what do you think?
[1:06:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I think it's gonna be, yeah. I think it'll be in line for the PI and... I think I think people are kinda blowing this. Because you know why you know why I'm thinking that they're not gonna... The same thing with the the inflation rate. Right? I mean, we're too close to election time for them to be screwing around with stuff because, you know, the the worst they make the economy look is, you know, the worst that makes Republicans look. So, you know, people say, oh, it's it's
[1:07:31] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's it's No. I know.
[1:07:32] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But but I'm saying, you know, but out but, like, you know, if you ask the average person, right, who doesn't have... You know, they're just looking at the gas prices. They're looking at, you know, their grocery bill. You know? People are simple. Right? They don't just... Especially if you don't have assets. Right? If you don't have... If you're not holding assets right now, you're you're pissed the fuck off because because everything's more expensive, and you don't have any assets to offset any of that. Right? And this is why, you know, we talk about the wealth gap. You know, it it... To me, it's just getting wider and wider. And and another big indicator I saw, I don't think he's talked about this already, is the mortgage rate, you know, hitting, what, 7.6%. That that is definitely... You know, the... You know, we we talk about the American dream. Young people can't afford that, especially, you know, especially where I'm at, where the average home is over $1,000,000, and they're trying... You know, they're in college, working a college job. There's no way they could have... You know, obtain the American dream. Like, it... It's so, like, far out there that a lot of people I talk... Especially young kids, they're like... They don't even, like, bother. They're like, oh, it's it's it's dead. You You know? They basically say the American dream is dead. Like, there's no way, you know, they can afford a 7% mortgage on anything. And and then now they're throwing around this forty year, right, instead of thirty year, forty year mortgages just to try and get the monthly payment down. Even that is... You know? And I was looking over a a real estate properties itself, and I think it was, like, what, forty forty something percent of loans are now defaulting. Like, the like, the, you know, the foreclosure rate is rising. You know, the banks are seizing properties. And and what that tells me is people lost
[1:09:39] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: do do you guys understand? You're like, you know what I mean? Like, like, all the people... Like, I actually have a a friend who actually... Who who is actually in that pickle right now where, you know, he thought... You know, he he locked in, what was it? The... Like, a 5% around there. Right? And, you know, he's thinking, you know, this is year... Couple years ago, and he locked it in. He he he told me his plan was, oh, we're gonna buy now, you know, and and wait for the the interest rates to go back down, and we'll just use our savings account. Well, here we are, you know, a couple years later, and it didn't it didn't go down. It went up, right, to 7. So now, you know, his savings is is damn near gone, right, which makes sense from what I was reading in that article. So I think that's... A lot of people made that gamble of, you know, mortgage rates are gonna go back down, which they didn't, and now they're defaulting, which is which is sad. Right? Again, you know, it's like people are losing their homes. And, really, when you think about it, like, yeah. You know? Like, you know, we're here to invest into assets and everything, but, you know, I don't know. I... When when I hear... When I talk to my friends and I see them struggling, right, just outright, like, they're, you know, they're getting wiped out, it's it's concerning. You know? And and that really is, the... You know, when people talk about, you know, the affordability of everything, when people are losing their homes and they can't buy groceries anymore and they can't... They're struggling to get... Put gas in their vehicle just to go to work, you you can't tell me that that's a thriving economy. Right? Yeah. Asset... Assets might be might be up, and, yeah, we're we're asset rich, but everything else is is falling apart. You know?
[1:11:32] NatNat @Natnatx007: But I'll forget my... To, you know, to that point. Is it just me or grocery prices has come... Have come down? Because I remember paying an
[1:11:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: arm and a down.
[1:11:41] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Because I remember
[1:11:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: They've been down the entire time with the exception of chicken for a little while.
[1:11:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: Because I remember last year, we were paying an arm and a leg for our regular weekly groceries, and it has come down significantly. Unless you you mean, California.
[1:11:56] Landy @CryptoLandy: Data, it's come down as well. Like, California is a little bit of a special case.
[1:12:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. I I was gonna say not not not where I'm at.
[1:12:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well So It's like, what are you what are you comparing it to? Are you comparing it to inauguration day? Are you comparing it to, you know, when we had 9% inflation in 2022? Right? Like, what are you comparing it to? And, like like, right now, what we're seeing is a concentration of defaults, in the mortgage sector, and it's not at 40% of all. It's... It it it ticked up 40%. And which state is driving most of those defaults and foreclosures, Alpha Gamer? It is California.
[1:12:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: California. Yep.
[1:12:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because, well, a lot of other
[1:12:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: things What is happening in Cali?
[1:12:45] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, there's a combination of things that are happening in Cali.
[1:12:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: The gas price, Nat? We're dying over here.
[1:12:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, okay. Yeah. Well, that's that's a very California thing that the rest of the country... Believe it or not, a lot of people are talking about gas prices, and gas prices are well off their peak even at the pump in most states. It's that they went down very sharply when Trump first entered office, and then they swung right back up. So that that perception is like, oh, well, it went down, then it spiked again, and here's the reasons why. And, obviously, we know what those reasons are. But when you're looking at where, like, the... In in the broader economy, groceries have come down significantly since 2025, and they were already trending down. Oh, you can thumbs down, but the economic data disagrees with you, Milo. And... But if you were to split it out region by region and state by state, you would see that grocery prices are rising in California. They're rising in Michigan. They're rising in New York. They're rising in specific areas, typically highly concentrated on the coast. And, part of that is because of the shipping infrastructure and the the logistics and how you're getting things out of the middle of the country, when it comes to domestically produced agricultural products or anything like that. And then when you're looking at foreclosure and default data, you're seeing it highly concentrated in places on the coasts, California, New York. You're going... You get down into, like, even now New Jersey, which is battling with it, but it's in that tristate area. You're seeing a lot of it really, really start to take off.
[1:14:37] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: But a lot of other... Real quick, Landy. There there is one thing. I don't know if you you guys recall, probably, like, a year ago, or I don't know what the timeline... But I'm sure we got it recorded on space. But, you know, I was talking about energy. Right? And and... You know, because I I know the the refineries out here. And and I will say, you know, when politics comes around, don't get
[1:15:03] Dave @DCBK2LA: it
[1:15:03] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: twisted. This is Gavin Newsom's fault because he chased out Phillips sixty six, the refinery, and and Valero. Right? Yeah. So we lost, like, what, 20% of California's gas supply.
[1:15:21] Landy @CryptoLandy: And all all of our diesel. All of our diesel.
[1:15:25] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yes. And and so, like, I I was talking... I forgot who I was talking to, and they were like, oh, this is Trump's fault. And I'm like, no. This is the state problem. I was like, this this is because of our heavy regulations in California. And to the point where they're shutting down refineries and we're losing jobs, and not only jobs, but we're losing the actual supply of gasoline. Right? And that's that's on the governor. That... That's not on the president. That's on the governor and the state.
[1:15:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: To get a federal injunction to keep a nuclear power plant open.
[1:16:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Yeah. Diablo in Avila Beach.
[1:16:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's really bad in California. California is a failed state at this point. Can it be turned around? Absolutely. These are problems that can be fixed, but it's... It... These are these are red tape problems. These are policy problems as as you're pointing out. And California is such a major economic player on not just The US stage, but the global stage that California has an outsized effect on the rest of The United States when you're looking at the broader economy and the economic numbers. So what's interesting is, like, part of the... And and rightfully, there's a lot of people on both the Democrat and Republican side calling out Gavin Newsom for that gas, policy, now that there's a diesel crunch. Because California actually used to refine a lot of diesel and export it, and it and it actually is one of the reasons why California had such nice balance sheets even while spending money hand over fist on garbage because they could afford to. Because they had the energy production here to not only service California but to export it to other states. And now we're a net importer. We don't even import from other US states. We import from overseas. Can you believe that? Can you believe a state that is within The United States that can import gas from Texas on the cheap is importing from overseas. It's insane. And then it screws up... It... It's a it's a big drag on everything here in The United States. But when you're looking at all of the stuff that you talked about, like, California is a very big culprit. It's not the only one, but it it plays a very large percent... It's a large percentage of The US economy in its totality. It's not the biggest, but it's it's a major player when you don't have the bigger states like a California that are pulling their weight and are actively destroying portions of The US based economy, you get what we... You get what you get.
[1:18:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: Would you guys ever consider moving?
[1:18:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: This state is worth saving. Oh my god. I I was the one that wanted to move out before the problem started, but now that the problems are here, and I'm kinda knee deep in some of them, trying to fix it, not knee deep as a cause. But I I think the state is worth saving.
[1:18:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: And, also, if I move out of the state, they're still gonna try and tax me for seven years. So what does it matter?
[1:18:39] NatNat @Natnatx007: That is true. So you guys... I don't think I re... I don't think I discussed it here on this space. It was a previous space. So you guys know how much we used to pay in grocery bills at the height of everything? Almost $1,000 a week.
[1:18:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yep.
[1:18:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: It was bad. It was really bad. That has come down way, way, way down, like, more than 50% down. So... But... So it's definite Well,
[1:19:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: a, like, a Lucky's, a Albertsons, or is that a Costco? Because Costco is kinda different. You know?
[1:19:14] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not Costco. We don't shop at Costco.
[1:19:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's just the aggregate. If you're gonna take, like, a... Like, an aggregate grocery bill spend, like... And I'm in California. I'm I'm... Granted, I'm Southern California, so I'm even somehow cheaper than you up there, even though our homes are also very, very, very expensive over here. But that's because we have nice coasts and stuff like that when they're not... You know, when we're not getting trash from Tijuana, which is, by the way, been a massive problem on the beach. And, like, if we... If I look out the window down... I don't know, maybe freaking seven or eight, homes, there's, like, there's still trash that's being cleaned up. But guess what? We're the ones that are doing it. The state isn't helping. We're all we're all mobilizing our own teams to get out there and clean it, but it keeps coming in. Thanks, Gavin Newsom, for helping us solve that problem, you asshole. Anyway, this is... Like, we we went from right around what Nat was saying, you know, here in Southern California. Like, just personal anecdotal in our our family unit has grown. We went from about 1,000 to 1,200 a week to 400 to to 500 a week in in grocery spend when you're considering those items. Now any kind of, like, up over the top if, a Costco, it's... If it's not a grocery item, you know, because you can buy anything at Costco these days. There's people buy. I saw somebody for the first time. Yo. I saw somebody for the first time buy a car at Costco. It was wild. Has anybody ever seen anybody buy a car at Costco?
[1:21:01] NatNat @Natnatx007: How do you buy a car at Costco? What do do? You just, like, go in and...
[1:21:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: So they they have, like, these dealers that they partner with. Right? And they have, like, the little cars that they park out in front of the Costco, and then they got the sticker price. And then, like, they always have... Yeah.
[1:21:13] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Someone bought it?
[1:21:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Someone bought a car because the rep was out there from the dealer, and he sold them the freaking car. I've never seen that before. I thought it was I thought it was made up. I was like, there's no way you could buy this guy. Dude bought the car. Like, okay. That's that's... I mean, I wouldn't buy an electric, a Mopar vehicle. No. Because it's not... It's an electric Dodge. No. Get it out of here. These things are trash. But anyway...
[1:21:45] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: And I'm just curious, Nat. Why why don't you shop at Costco?
[1:21:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: We find it cheaper to shop elsewhere for the family. We get other stuff too. You have to keep it... Keep in mind underlying... Certain underlying conditions don't really align with with certain things that are sold at Costco. So even if we have to go elsewhere and pay a little bit more for those, it is still much, much, much lower than what we used to
[1:22:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: sell adobo in bulk. Okay? They
[1:22:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: just don't do it.
[1:22:15] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wait. Underlying conditions. Like, wait. You, like, you go to... Did did mister Costco call you up one day and, like, insult you?
[1:22:21] NatNat @Natnatx007: Like, happened? They they told
[1:22:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: religious thing?
[1:22:25] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. They they they just said, you know, because of the adobo that this... I'm kidding. No. Lenny
[1:22:32] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: said they said
[1:22:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: They only carry
[1:22:35] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: loads of Wait. Wait. Is Nat Filipino? Wait. Wait. Am I missing? Is Nat Nat Filipina?
[1:22:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. Tina, bro. What Filipina?
[1:22:43] NatNat @Natnatx007: Have we met? Alphadeiro, welcome to ATC, my friend. Seriously.
[1:22:46] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Wow. Wow. I I never knew.
[1:22:49] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm gonna start calling you AG. Well, so, Lanny, you
[1:22:53] Landy @CryptoLandy: Welcome, Angie.
[1:22:53] NatNat @Natnatx007: Guys know with my child, Gemino Neurology, it's very sensitive to certain things. Okay. Yep. So we kinda have to, you know, cook things a certain way, eat certain things, and a lot of it we get elsewhere, not necessarily found at Costco, unfortunately.
[1:23:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, I got it. I got you. No. The reason why I asked is
[1:23:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: some and a car there, though.
[1:23:17] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: No. I I have a friend. He he started working there, I think, like, fifteen years ago, and he's got all the stock options. And I don't know if you've you've looked at the Costco chart, but, boy, man, like, he's made a killing just on his stock options options that he's accumulated from simply working at Costco. It's crazy.
[1:23:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: So I I live not too far from, one of the regional executive managers for Costco. And that dude, one, he's a trip, but, he he... I guess, he has not had to do really anything because you can you can lean against those options. He has not had to, like, really spend, like, anything. He's he's saved and, like, put his kids through college with cash and, like, did all of that kind of stuff, and not really... Like, everything he's he's done because he worked his way up through the through the corporate ladder into the regional position, which pays really well, by the way. But, they they... Their options and and the stock that they give their employees is kinda crazy. All the way down to, like, your lowest level employee, like, your entry level employee. It's really awesome. That's why they've been so successful. Also, you know, if you want a cheap hot dog, there you go.
[1:24:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: I absolutely love that they have not raised the price of their hot dogs. That is so incredible.
[1:24:50] Landy @CryptoLandy: You get people in the door with the hot dogs, and then you make them walk through the entire store to go get a $5 chicken. Alright?
[1:25:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: You're paying for the discount somewhere. That's...
[1:25:02] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: He's actually correct on that. The roasted chicken, man. Everyone lines up for that roasted chicken.
[1:25:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: You gotta walk by every single sales rep giving you a sample. You gotta see all their all their little starred items that are, like, 45% cheaper than everywhere else in the store only. You know, you gotta walk all the way through the store. You gotta wind your way through hordes of people just to pick up that $5 roast
[1:25:29] Dave @DCBK2LA: I have a question for you. I have a question for you. How much are a dozen... Where you live, how much are a dozen eggs right now?
[1:25:37] NatNat @Natnatx007: Good question. Let me check.
[1:25:38] Landy @CryptoLandy: Crazy. I think they were, like, it depends on, like, what you're getting, but, like, base Right. Like, $3.50 around here. 50? Or, like, a dozen. Yeah.
[1:25:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: That for you?
[1:25:50] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm checking right now. One second.
[1:25:53] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. I think I'm, I think I'm in trouble, guys, because my girlfriend likes to buy this oral, organic, this, that. I don't know what kind of stuff. You know?
[1:26:06] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's great.
[1:26:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: You will... Oh, it's great.
[1:26:09] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: It it really ranges. From over where I'm at, Dave, it's, like, 5 to $12 depending on what type.
[1:26:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Gross and GP? Yeah. Mine is 3 to 7. Between 3 to 7....
[1:26:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Crazy. Like, literally in my refrigerator that day, there was $12 eggs. $12 for one carton of organic eggs.
[1:26:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: A dollar an egg?
[1:26:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Dollar an egg.
[1:26:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Is that the 12 count or the 18 count?
[1:26:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: 12. 12. 12.
[1:26:38] NatNat @Natnatx007: Japanese. Woah.
[1:26:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. Okay. So I got
[1:26:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: a Yeah. That's the high quality ones.
[1:26:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. So, like, I just
[1:26:44] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: looked who's phone that in
[1:26:45] NatNat @Natnatx007: the They were made they were made by the golden chicken. That's why.
[1:26:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So I just I just looked by me. The lowest price at, like, one of the local stores, is $3.25 for... Well, $3,324.99.
[1:27:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: And what about organic one? What about, like, organic eggs? What else?
[1:27:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: Organic. Okay. So if I go and I look at some organic cage free
[1:27:13] NatNat @Natnatx007: open range Mine is $7.59 for 12 organic eggs.
[1:27:18] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Mine is $11.50.
[1:27:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: $7.50. And I'm in SoCal. But I'm... You gotta remember, I'm... In SoCal, we have a bunch of farmland, like, just to the just to the east of us. In SoCal, there's a ton of farmland before you get to the desert, which is more more Northwest.
[1:27:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I mean, we we got plenty of farms in Upstate New York too. It should be... Should be...
[1:27:41] Landy @CryptoLandy: Should yeah. Be
[1:27:43] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: All the way up? Like, but that's Canada. Mean, anything outside this
[1:27:46] Landy @CryptoLandy: city pretty much. Are you talking about about going to Poughkeepsie and then and then going, I don't know, West, and
[1:27:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: then West, the Buffalo, Hugo.
[1:27:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hansaki? Coxacki. Coxacki.
[1:28:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: Coxacki. Coxacki. My god.
[1:28:03] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god.
[1:28:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:28:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. That's good. You're pulling you're pulling... You're going deep here.
[1:28:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: $12 an egg. The only reason I'm bringing this up is because I know that right now
[1:28:10] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Real deep.
[1:28:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: She's having dinner with her sisters, so she's not gonna be listening to the space. Hopefully, she doesn't go back and listen. But 12
[1:28:16] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Listen. I'm gonna tell you about this, girl.
[1:28:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Let me tell let me tell you about some of my
[1:28:22] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. My
[1:28:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: dad comes downstairs from his apartment. Right? So I live, like, in the downstairs apartment. Right? And he opens my refrigerator, and he goes, $12 eggs? $12 eggs. And I'm like, oh my goodness. But listen, dad. What what had happened... You
[1:28:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Trade... Tom, trading. Tom, you've been so good with trading, you can afford it now.
[1:28:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Mhmm. I I can't give parent price at that point. You know what I mean? Because, like, the... Literally, it's on the carton. It's, like, $11.95.
[1:28:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: You live in New York. So everything that you have there is at least gonna be a 50% markup from
[1:28:58] Dave @DCBK2LA: Exactly.
[1:28:59] Landy @CryptoLandy: The rest of the state anyway.
[1:29:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Why don't you just get one chicken? You can afford to get one hen. Right?
[1:29:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: And then
[1:29:04] NatNat @Natnatx007: just let
[1:29:04] Landy @CryptoLandy: In your apartment?
[1:29:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Your apartment. You know what
[1:29:07] NatNat @Natnatx007: I'm saying?
[1:29:07] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: I agree
[1:29:08] NatNat @Natnatx007: with that.
[1:29:08] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Put it in the cage outside, bro. I mean, that that thing will be a moneymaker.
[1:29:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: You can just sell eggs to everyone around.... Eggs. Going into winter, he's just got a chicken outside. It's... He comes out. It's frozen.
[1:29:20] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, cool, mama. But if you trade futures, if you don't close them, you'll actually get the deliverables to your house. I don't know if there's, like, chicken futures, but you can just buy, like, 10 contracts and and and and not take profit or close them out. And they'll be delivered to you, though.
[1:29:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. I'm gonna send them thousands. How's that bullshit? I'm I'm... What?
[1:29:40] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look. I have an advertisement for the farmer's market here. Farmer's market, free range organic chicken eggs at the farmer's market right now. When it... When it's coming up, it's gonna be tomorrow for weather permitting. You can get a dozen eggs from the farmer's market for $5.
[1:30:04] Dave @DCBK2LA: Organic? Wow. Organic.
[1:30:06] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Okay. So so food so food down there then is cheap. Free range? Shit then.
[1:30:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, yeah. Until you start getting close to LA. You even approach LA, and everything's gonna quadruple in price.
[1:30:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: Do they have... Do the chickens have a... Do they come with a credit card? Do they have, like, their own expense account? Like, this bougie ish.
[1:30:23] Landy @CryptoLandy: And they come with a to the farmers market. I went to the farmers market, and they had, vendors that were there taking Bitcoin payments.
[1:30:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's dope.
[1:30:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: That's based.
[1:30:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's cool. Well, how are they taking it? Just, in a in a regular wallet or, like, payment processor?
[1:30:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: You you you just pay them through the wallet. I think they were using probably... I know at least one was using Strike or whatever it is. Right.
[1:30:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah. Strike from Jack.
[1:30:52] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. And then, and then most of them were just like, yeah. Just here, scan the QR code and send me... Send it here. Some were using PayPal, to to accept payments and stuff like that. There was, like, all kinds of stuff. It was interesting, though. They they like... Because they were... There was a bunch of them kinda hanging out, all talking about different stuff, and I kinda got asking about it. And they were like, yeah. No. We take Bitcoin. We take USDT, USDC. And they were, like, really knowledgeable. And, like, some of them were like, yeah. No. I've freaking... I've been in crypto since blah blah blah blah blah. It's how I got my farm. And, like, it's like, wow. And you choose to put it in California.
[1:31:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Do we do we wanna talk about alts, by the way? I know that there's been... It's light volume, but some alts have kinda been moving, Natalie. Anything here?
[1:31:42] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, yes. Did you guys buy Aerodrome when we were talking about it last month? No. You didn't because you freighted the car. No. It hit almost a dollar, my friend.
[1:31:53] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: We could talk about Landy's favorite Landy's favorite XRP.
[1:31:58] NatNat @Natnatx007: Oh, yes. He loves XRP so much. He just won't stop talking about it. Like, every space I've been in, Landy has been talking about XRP to 10,000. Literally.
[1:32:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: Do you know how how long I five d ascended? How long ago it's been? It's been so many years now.
[1:32:12] Dave @DCBK2LA: Lindsay, don't even bother with these plugs. They're not they're not on your love... On your atmospheric level.
[1:32:17] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. I'm out here buying farm fresh organic eggs for $5 a dozen from the Galactic Federation using Bitcoin. So... And XRP.
[1:32:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's nice. That's real nice.
[1:32:55] NatNat @Natnatx007: Exactly. And so that...
[1:32:57] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Why why is Milo pointing a thumbs down? Milo, what's going on? He's on
[1:33:01] Dave @DCBK2LA: a delay. He's on a delay.
[1:33:02] Landy @CryptoLandy: Because he wants me to talk about Dashpay. That is the only reason that Milo shows up to spaces anymore that I happen to be on the stage. He's like, when is Landy going to tell me about Dashpay, and why does he keep ignoring IWM in his videos? Which Which I'm gonna cover tonight, by the way, Miley.
[1:33:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: Real quick. Real quick. Anybody looking at Filecoin? Filecoin? I see it's been getting some burn on the timeline a little bit lately. Filecoin? No one? Anyone?
[1:33:39] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, I saw it. I I didn't trade any of it. I I still have some Filecoin in, like, a wallet somewhere.
[1:33:46] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think I still have Filecoin in a file or two.
[1:33:49] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Terrible. Last thing you know, it's
[1:33:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: the most time. Milo, go ahead.
[1:33:54] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: That was awesome.
[1:33:55] Milo @0dteSPY: So so was anybody buying AVACS at six? I was.
[1:33:59] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: You're a community member.
[1:34:01] Milo @0dteSPY: I am. I am a community member, and I bought it at six, and it's now at ten. I'm doing pretty good.
[1:34:07] Dave @DCBK2LA: I bought it at wins.
[1:34:09] Milo @0dteSPY: The community wins. And I do like to talk about Dash. I think it's really cool. And I'm up, like, I don't know, like, 70% or something stupid at this point. But yeah, the alter have been good. Some of them some of them better than others. File... So I saw that thing on file too, but I think they just unlocked again. So buyer beware.
[1:34:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Are you guys watching this game? Oh, sorry, Landy. Go ahead.
[1:34:34] Landy @CryptoLandy: I was just gonna say I I, because Milo brings up Dash so much, I went to... Like, on a a wallet hunt because I went I went through my inventory of wallets to see if I had any, like, long term Dash. And, I found, like, $12,000 in Dash. I was like, oh, wait. I have it. This is great. This is like... I I feel like I'm part of the community now too. Like, I'm a hold spaces on Dash. That's the only reason why I even bring it up.
[1:35:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. You and Milo are now community members of Dash together?
[1:35:10] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. Yeah. They're Dash bros. You didn't hear it? You missed... And we sent the... They sent the email out yesterday.
[1:35:16] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yeah. You didn't... We were... Sent Dash to the Dash to the to the Dash event.
[1:35:23] Milo @0dteSPY: Welcome to the community.
[1:35:24] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Welcome to the community. You guys are the... If you're the welcoming committee, may god help Dash. Oh my goodness.
[1:35:32] Landy @CryptoLandy: Okay. So what I found out was that I have been holding Dash. This is... Okay. Let me let me... I'm gonna go pull it up again because I I searched it the other day. So I've been holding Dash. This wallet is... So the transfer in was, in April 2016. That's how long I've held Dash. I don't even know what the price was. I'd have to go look at the price chart. I hope that it was higher. It it had to have been higher. Right? Didn't it didn't it pump in
[1:36:09] Dave @DCBK2LA: 2016 to '17?
[1:36:11] Landy @CryptoLandy: Dash is from, like, 1516 time frame?
[1:36:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Milo, you've a community member since the beginning?
[1:36:19] Milo @0dteSPY: No. No. No. I've been a community member and... Well, a couple years, but I trade it because it it catches wind and then, you know, I ride it up and then I sell and then I wait
[1:36:31] Dave @DCBK2LA: for it to drop. And
[1:36:33] Milo @0dteSPY: so it's it's... I'm a community member, but I do trade it.
[1:36:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: A trading community member. That's what we love to see.
[1:36:40] NatNat @Natnatx007: Speaking of community members, do you guys remember the token, Emacs, Ethereum Max? There was this big giant lawsuit.
[1:36:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh my god. Yeah. What about it? I still have Emacs in the
[1:36:51] NatNat @Natnatx007: Me too. I just... I was just looking through it right now. I still have about, like, a billion Emacs. Whatever
[1:36:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: I Is it just ticker e... Emacs? Yeah. I don't know. I'll have to go do a search.
[1:37:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: So this was during that craze... A billboard in New York City and everything would go crazy? Emacs was to the point where there were years ago. Oh, man.
[1:37:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wow. Five. I used to just buy everything. So, like, I I might have some.
[1:37:18] NatNat @Natnatx007: Three, four years ago? You probably do because it was so popular around the time, Kim Kardashian was supposed to... Made a post about it.
[1:37:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, no. Then I definitely sold it. There's no way. I'm hoping
[1:37:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: it would. So they Yeah.
[1:37:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: There's no way.
[1:37:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: They were part of this big, big lawsuit that that went that went around for, like, years, I think. And the last thing I heard was one of the team members was cleared, but the other two was still being being investigated.
[1:37:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: What what was the whole premise for Ethereum Max anyway? I I totally forgot. It was just so much... That was a twenty... That was twenty twenty one days. Right?
[1:37:57] NatNat @Natnatx007: I think so. I think it was, like, 2021, 2022. Ethereum Max. The the craze was so high that you had people posting that they got air airdrops on Emacs while they were doing, like, pee pee in the bathroom. You guys remember
[1:38:09] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, I remember what this is now.
[1:38:12] NatNat @Natnatx007: Holy Yep. No. There's...
[1:38:14] Landy @CryptoLandy: No. No. I do not own any of this. No. Now now I know what you're talking about. You know what? The... It it might have a chance to get revived. I mean, everybody's maxing these days. So why not Ethereum max? Right? I mean, if you are... You're you're gonna Luxmax, you're gonna BBL max.
[1:38:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: Yeah. I don't know. The the the problem the problem with that particular token is the lawsuit. It was huge. You had Kim Kardashian in court. You had, Mayweather in court. You had a whole bunch of big celebrities in court because of this particular token. I still have a billion of it. So if it trumps just for maxing purposes You're
[1:38:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: lucky to find an LP that's still in the kitchen somewhere. That's for sure.
[1:39:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, that's gonna be like opening my runes wallet and seeing that I'm a multitrillionaire because somebody put up a put up a listing for a rune at some ridiculous price that was somewhere in my wallet that got airdropped to me. It's kinda...
[1:39:18] Dave @DCBK2LA: What world do we think runes were gonna be a thing? Like, however many ticker symbols, like, ticker symbols fucking... Bro, it was like...
[1:39:26] Landy @CryptoLandy: Watch it become a narrative again. Watch it come back
[1:39:28] Dave @DCBK2LA: in a huge way. No.
[1:39:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: I'm being serious. Watch.
[1:39:31] NatNat @Natnatx007: Watch what? Emacs come back in a huge way?
[1:39:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: Are you gonna build a liquidity pool? I... We're gonna ruin max. In fact, I'm launching... I'm etching the ticker on Bitcoin right now, ruin maxing. And we're gonna we're gonna bring it all back, baby. I'm gonna get sued. I'm gonna be in court with Kim Kardashian. It's gonna be amazing.
[1:39:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: Can your testimony just be, like, resemble what Johnny Depp's and Amber Heard's was like in the courtroom because that was the most amazing That would be amazing. Courtroom drama.
[1:40:02] NatNat @Natnatx007: That was so entertaining entertaining. That's the
[1:40:05] Landy @CryptoLandy: last time that women on social media were actually rooting for a man in court. That's how much culture has changed. Now women now women will not root. They'll only root for women that, like, you know, kill their kids or do crazy stuff, and be... That becomes a TikTok trend. But...
[1:40:22] NatNat @Natnatx007: Not all women. Hold on, Annie. You can't move.
[1:40:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: Not not saying that. Not all women. A minute. I'm gonna I'm gonna not make a blanket statement. Not all women, but a lot of women because it was really, like, almost all women were not on... In Amber Amber Heard's court. They were all like, hey. We're on Johnny Depp's side of this.
[1:40:44] NatNat @Natnatx007: That's because she was so toxic. She's so toxic.
[1:40:48] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was so good. She was pretending to, like, blow her nose from crying and then she'd be doing bumps on the stand. It was wild. The stand. If you know, you know.
[1:40:57] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. It was wild to watch.
[1:41:01] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: What do you mean, Dave? She was just sniffing her pinky. What are you talking about?
[1:41:05] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. She was just blowing her nose because she was crying because she's been through so much emotional distress. Blackromatique
[1:41:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: is here. Bring it back.
[1:41:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: Amber Turd. What's up, Blackromatique?
[1:41:17] chromatique @chromatique: I'm just saying, Landy. And, yes, it'll run because I'm telling you, dumber shit has ran before. So, yes, it'll run.
[1:41:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh, we're gonna be on hyperliquid, bro.
[1:41:27] chromatique @chromatique: Oh, perfect. That'll mark the top, and then we can short it. It's great.
[1:41:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. Wait. Wait. Hold on. You have to buy my rune maxing ticker, that I'm gonna that I'm gonna that I'm gonna bridge over to Hyperloop.
[1:41:38] chromatique @chromatique: Runes? Listen. If I buy the rune, does that mean the Ordaniel's come back too? Because yikes, man. The runes? Might might as well just bring back alkanes, Landy. Sheesh.
[1:41:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Oh my god. You know what? We are. We're gonna alkane max as well.
[1:41:54] chromatique @chromatique: An alkane max.
[1:41:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Ordaniels. That was so good. Ordaniels.
[1:41:58] Landy @CryptoLandy: I I... You lose your you didn't lose your...
[1:42:00] chromatique @chromatique: We're collecting alkanes.
[1:42:06] Dave @DCBK2LA: This is a new Bitcoin primitive, ladies and gentlemen. What I like to call money from your wallet to go to my wallet.
[1:42:12] chromatique @chromatique: Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. Dave. Dave, I have the new Bitcoin. Have you heard of Pearl, sir? Have you heard of Pearl?
[1:42:19] Landy @CryptoLandy: Jesus Christ.
[1:42:20] Dave @DCBK2LA: Well, I'll trade
[1:42:21] chromatique @chromatique: you a bit I'm so sick of people posting that on timeline. It's AI Bitcoin. It's AI Bitcoin. It is
[1:42:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: not AI Bitcoin, you monkeys. Knock it off.
[1:42:30] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hey. Hey. I feel targeted by that statement.
[1:42:33] chromatique @chromatique: AI Bitcoin. It's just... Knock it off.
[1:42:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: Knock off the cilmines. Does that mean AI... I mean, we obviously all know that
[1:42:41] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: The... Oh, they... Okay. Legitimately soon.
[1:42:44] chromatique @chromatique: No, Dave. Dave, it's it's even more stupid than that. Okay? So people... There's this project called Pearl, and it's a proof of useful work blockchain. Right? So the idea is is that we're gonna take Bitcoin, but all of the, quote, useless, infer... Or the useless hashing that's done to secure the network, we're gonna give that a use. So they decided, well, instead of using, floating point, we're gonna use, matrix multiplication, which then can be applied to large language models. So at the same time you're hashing and securing the network, you're able to perform inference at the same exact time and thus securing the network and providing a use to a to a user.
[1:43:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Coming back, baby.
[1:43:29] chromatique @chromatique: Bro, I'm telling you. I'm I'm telling... I've got a thirty seventy down. Just click... Just just I'm just purring away, Serge. Purring away.
[1:43:37] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's in the cloud. I'm in the clouds. It's all in the
[1:43:39] chromatique @chromatique: cloud. Mean, listen. Listen. I I just... If anybody goes digging into Pearl and, like,
[1:43:45] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: it goes, oh, wow, and
[1:43:46] chromatique @chromatique: gets all hunky dory about it, listen. Don't expect asymmetric returns within a couple months. It ain't that kind of trade, bucko. Okay?
[1:43:55] Landy @CryptoLandy: Lost me at asymmetric.
[1:43:57] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. So where does Pearl trade? Pearl has its own
[1:44:00] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: chain. Pearl.
[1:44:00] chromatique @chromatique: Pearl. Yes. Yes. So you can trade it via OTC or on some sketchy layer two exchange called SafeTrade. I did not buy it on SafeTrade. I bought all my stuff OTC.
[1:44:10] Landy @CryptoLandy: SafeTrade turns out to be
[1:44:11] Dave @DCBK2LA: what's called
[1:44:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: SafeTrade. Yeah. Oh, bro. If
[1:44:14] Dave @DCBK2LA: your name is SafeTrade
[1:44:15] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Safe. Dude. Moon? Is that
[1:44:16] Dave @DCBK2LA: what you just said? No. SafeTrade. Pay. Everything's fine. Your trades are
[1:44:20] Landy @CryptoLandy: No.
[1:44:20] chromatique @chromatique: It it it looks like it, like, it looks like a like a old version of synthetics. It's crazy.
[1:44:27] Landy @CryptoLandy: Every... I avoid
[1:44:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Oh, wow. SNX bringing it back.
[1:44:31] chromatique @chromatique: That's right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So it
[1:44:33] Landy @CryptoLandy: If it was unsafe trade, I would actually trust it more.
[1:44:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Agreed. Agreed. Like, put your money here. We all know
[1:44:40] Voice H: what happens. Roll the dice and be like, alright.
[1:44:42] chromatique @chromatique: Yeah. I mean, the Safe Tree, they've done... They'd usually do, like, a million dollars of volume a day on that token, but, like, I don't know. I just... I don't feel like sticking my money on a sketchy exchange. I'd rather just buy it OTC. So that's what I did.
[1:44:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Doing crypto if you really don't do that, Chroma? You know
[1:44:58] chromatique @chromatique: what Honestly. Honestly.
[1:45:00] Dave @DCBK2LA: I mean, you can
[1:45:00] chromatique @chromatique: buy wrapped pearl you can buy wrapped pearl on Ethereum main net now, so they have that. But but, yeah, it's it's an equal token, but I'd say something that I plan on buying and then, you know, accumulating for a while and sitting on it for a while. So...
[1:45:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: Got it. Oh, MetaBee says he's also... He was also part of the Dash community. So there's new ATC members now. Let's go. Shout out to the Dash community. Yeah. That's awesome.
[1:45:28] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Are are we bringing Nano back too since Dash is back? Can we bring Nano back?
[1:45:33] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, lord.
[1:45:35] Landy @CryptoLandy: Uh-huh. Hey. So who wants to EOS Max with me?
[1:45:40] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh. Don't do that. Adino.
[1:45:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Hold on.
[1:45:44] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. Didn't EOS get bought out for, like, a shit ton of money, or am I crazy? What was the one that got that got bought out? Recently? No. No. No. No. No. It was like some... Oh my god. I forgot what it was, but it was some... It was like the it was like the one who got out. Oh my god. You guys actually got out of here. It was... Landy, I... Is it Eos or something else am I thinking of?
[1:46:06] Landy @CryptoLandy: I don't know if it was EOS. I don't know anybody that got out of that safely.
[1:46:10] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. I mean, like, somebody bought them out. Like, some fund or something bought, like, to use their tech. Something like that.
[1:46:20] chromatique @chromatique: Yeah. Oh, bought the chain stack?
[1:46:23] Dave @DCBK2LA: Me consult tech stack.
[1:46:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: Let me consult an AI agent because I don't actually know.
[1:46:30] chromatique @chromatique: You're consulting jeopardy there, Landy? Yeah.
[1:46:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: It was EOS. It was something... I'm I'm a 100% sure it was something with an e. What was the other big one with the e? Big one with the e. Pause all that.
[1:46:42] Landy @CryptoLandy: Maybe it was EOS because the autofill is like, did it get bought by Block IO? And I was like, well, I didn't select that, but let's see what the return result Yeah.
[1:46:52] Dave @DCBK2LA: Was something. It was some crazy number, and we were like, what? Was like, what the hell? Also, fun fact for everybody here. I was watching a film last night on television, The Martian with Matt Damon, if anybody has seen it. And my my lovely significant other said, I wonder what planet he's on. But that's not the significant fact. But the significant fact was essentially... They quoted time in SOL, s o l. Now for the crypto degenerate in all of us, it's like, wait. Solana, if you don't know what one soul is equivalent to, it's literally the equivalent of twenty four hours and forty minutes, right, in terms of Earth time. So One one solar Earth. Yep. One soul on Mars is essentially twenty four hours plus an additional fourteen minutes and change. So there you go. Fun fact for the day. Meta Beast, welcome.
[1:47:50] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Hi. How are you? EOS, the blockchain rebranded, not to be confused with EOS, the fitness center, which was bought out.
[1:48:02] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, was that a mixed headline? Shut up. Tell me I read the... Like, tell me the...
[1:48:07] Landy @CryptoLandy: So EOS, now Volta, is, the the rename of EOS. And then you have EOS, the Australian defense company, which was
[1:48:25] Landy @CryptoLandy: making a lot of money with drone deals. And then you have EOS Energy on Nasdaq, which apparently has done okay.
[1:48:34] Dave @DCBK2LA: Wait. How much was the gym bought out for Meta Beast? What was the what was the terms?
[1:48:40] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't know. That I would have to look up, but I can do that. Otherwise, WAX is the ticker.
[1:48:49] Dave @DCBK2LA: Are you shilling?
[1:48:51] Landy @CryptoLandy: Wow. Did you just bring up wax after all these damn years?
[1:48:55] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Well, somebody brought up EOS. I figured wax might as well follow.
[1:49:01] Landy @CryptoLandy: It's... Does anybody still trade wax? I have to look now.
[1:49:06] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I've seen I've seen people actually talking about it. I saw it in a post somewhere today too.
[1:49:12] Landy @CryptoLandy: Look at that chart.
[1:49:13] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: You know, wax is where I went when freaking east went through the roof. I was over there for a while.
[1:49:22] Dave @DCBK2LA: Throwing your money away.
[1:49:24] Landy @CryptoLandy: You do know what
[1:49:25] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: throw it away everywhere I go. What difference does it make?
[1:49:29] NatNat @Natnatx007: Metabiz, I I do have a
[1:49:31] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: question for billion?
[1:49:34] NatNat @Natnatx007: I do have a question for you, madam, because I saw it on the timeline. Can... Candy.io, what happened?
[1:49:43] Dave @DCBK2LA: Oh, yeah?
[1:49:43] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't know. So when Candy got bought out by this new person and they brought everything over to the Solana chain, you had a wallet that they provided that you could get... You would get the private key so that you could import it to an actual wallet. And somehow, somebody has gained access through the... Their... The wallets that we got through them and has been siphoning out Solana from people.
[1:50:17] Dave @DCBK2LA: It's a it's a custodial wallet or a noncustodial wallet?
[1:50:22] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: I don't know. They have the wall... They own the wallet. So cust... Custodial, I guess. Interesting.
[1:50:27] Dave @DCBK2LA: That's just me.
[1:50:27] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: But they give us the private key so that we can add it to to, like, whichever wallet we want. Yet, you know, the wallet originates through Kandi.
[1:50:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. That's a little crazy. There's a reason why Purvi doesn't, like, make that known even though you can do that with Purvi. And that's really interesting that they didn't do that through Purvi for this attack to happen. How many people got got taken for money?
[1:50:57] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: 1,500 people. Let me see. Oh, wow. Posted in... Why did I... What was the last thing I posted in here? I posted a couple of times in here. Oh, and then somebody somebody somebody said it was that Adam Weitzman's wallet that all the... Because the money's going to. I don't know that that's true, but I thought that was funny.
[1:51:26] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't think it's that. The Pango guy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:51:30] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Okay. So it was only $500 six hours ago, but that was probably eight or ten hours ago. I know it's gone up. It's not Okay. It's not super huge, but, you know, it's people again on Solana losing money to something probably stupid.
[1:51:55] Dave @DCBK2LA: Okay. Noted. Noted. Noted. Alright. Good stuff, peeps. Anything else?
[1:52:01] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Yeah. The... Their recommendation is to move your your Solana out of your Solana... Out of your wallet to a different wallet. They say... They claim that the NFTs have not been touched, and they should be safe regardless of what happens because they have some sort of control they can make it... They can undo whatever happens. So you know how that fun that always is too. While it might be great, if you get stuff stolen, it's not great overall.
[1:52:36] Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. All
[1:52:37] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: good. That's something... Controls my stuff and not me.
[1:52:40] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: Yeah.
[1:52:41] Dave @DCBK2LA: Copy.
[1:52:48] NatNat @Natnatx007: We lost you, Dave. What's up? Oh.
[1:52:50] Dave @DCBK2LA: No. No. I'm here. I'm here. Sorry. My bad. My bad. I had to pull Bubba. Bubba gets a little crazy when he sees other dogs, like, as if he's some kind of tough guy. Like, bro, you are literally nineteen pounds. That is a Rottweiler. He will literally eat you for breakfast. Anyways, that's it. Nat, anything else?
[1:53:05] NatNat @Natnatx007: No. I believe that we cover... We covered a good bit today. Thank you so much, Metal Beach, for giving us a rundown on kangy.io. I saw it all over the timeline, but didn't really have time to dive into it. So thank you. I really do appreciate it.
[1:53:18] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Also, guys Happy to contribute.
[1:53:21] Dave @DCBK2LA: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Also, guys Oh,
[1:53:24] AlphaGamer @AlphaGamer_sats: and real quick, Dave. Yeah. Real quick. Real quick. Now now that I know about Nat's adobo, I'll be looking forward to her synagogue. Thank you.
[1:53:32] Dave @DCBK2LA: Alright. Yeah. You be on the lookout, bro. And we buy in bulk. Okay? And it's not just hers. The whole l I a. She obviously, like... When I say bulk, we mean bulk. Bulk. Okay? Understand that?...
[1:53:44] MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: Make a necklace out of them pearls?
[1:53:47] Dave @DCBK2LA: I don't know what that means, honestly.
[1:53:49] Landy @CryptoLandy: Yes. You do.
[1:53:51] Dave @DCBK2LA: I know pearl necklace only from Urban Dictionary because I'm a freaking goon. That's it. Guys, real quick. I'm gonna be putting out a few different promo posts for ATC, ATC with the best partnership and so on, and I'm gonna be including the link. If you can, please help us retweet and push it out there. The New York City subway is really freaking loud. It is what it is. I'm not walking the dog. This is real life. Shit happens. I need to f train.
[1:54:18] chromatique @chromatique: Forget about it.
[1:54:19] Dave @DCBK2LA: Forget about it. Let me tell you something. You don't wanna ride the f train. Right? Something New York, don't get on the f f train. Oh, now the other one's coming the other way. Awesome. Good talk. We'll see you guys a little bit later, and we treat our shit, Natalie. We are cooking on the affiliate stuff. Let's go. Peace.
[1:54:42] Dave @DCBK2LA: Right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Clap us for everyone.