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Episode · Oct 13, 2026 ·

ATC: AI Espionage

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Summary

0:05:26

Grok Bots Automate Daily Tasks

Landy described using Grok to run Claude and ChatGPT CLIs without burning API credits while managing local models. Dave explained directing Grok to scan his iMessages, iCal, and texts to analyze relationships and detect scam links in DMs and emails by viewing source code. The group discussed an OpenAI statement about discovering a hidden recording device planted by an employee, referring the case to the FBI, with no signs of data exfiltration.

0:05:26Grok bot workflows, scam-link checks, phone calls

Moments0:18:30
0:27:14

Hardware Wallet Attacks and Grok Perks

NatNat and others covered supply chain attacks on Ledger and Trezor devices that captured seed phrases. Coinkong and Landy pushed using wiped old iPhones or building personal air gapped hardware for cold storage instead of trusting company devices. Coinkong shared that business badge holders get pooled Grok token usage for CLI and builders while Landy detailed overpaying for X Premium Plus and using his Grok bot to seek refunds.

0:35:14Ledger story via AI narrator voice ($93M stolen, $10M frozen)

0:44:31

Oil Gas and AI Control Debate

NatNat noted oil pushing above 94.30 toward 96.90 and 100 with proxy attacks but no major infrastructure damage yet. Landy said the spice must flow and real moves would show giant green candles on supply disruption while watching natural gas at 3.40, diesel news from Russia, DXY pullback, and bond rotation. Bread said AI is past the point of no return with rapid open source progress and predicted government access rules creating have and have nots.

0:56:28Toast Malone

1:08:32

Local Models Tokenized Assets

Bread explained routing output tokens from Anthropic to a local Mac Mini model to cut costs in half with Coinkong adding frontier model double checking loops. NatNat reported tokenized equities reaching 3.3B with 70 percent of trading off hours on BNB Solana and Base. Landy predicted stablecoins will flip BTC market cap first combined then individually with Bread highlighting OUSD from Bridge and Stripe backed by Visa, Mastercard, Coinbase, and Google for institutional settlement rails.

1:16:56JPMD

1:27:46

BTC Levels and Energy Trades

NatNat and Landy discussed ongoing energy trades in oil, natural gas, OXY, and XLE with Landy calling the sector volatile and easy to trade while focusing on diesel Russia Ukraine dynamics.

1:27:4676k EMA, 69k, 87.3k, 93-94k

Moments1:36:02

Key quotes

“So let's dive into the stories, So this OpenAI news, shout out to Kudos and Landy for sharing it in the chat, but this is actually very interesting. So if you guys haven't seen the news yet, OpenAI issued a statement... Well, it's officially from the account OpenAI newsroom. We discovered a sophisticated recording ...”

AAll Things Crypto0:18:30Share on X

“No. I'm I'm telling you, this most secure way to keep your tokens are on an old iPhone.”

Coinkong0:30:57Share on X

“That's the more interesting part is the attacks are the narrative, but what is not being said about it when you're hearing a lot of these reports is that the spice must flow, and it certainly does. One of the bigger things is something that we've talked about quite a bit here is that if there is any significant…”

Landy0:46:33Share on X

“Okay. I believe he's 50. Alright. So tokenized equities hit 3,300,000,000 as 70% of trading moves off hours. On chain stock trading on BNB chains, Solana, and base surges 15% in thirty days with investors executing trade around the clock outside of traditional US market hours. I think this is where Vest is gonna be ...”

AAll Things Crypto1:12:23Share on X

“So everyone's, like, assumes that, oh, Bitcoin's always gonna be the top, the top market cap token in crypto. Well, they never talk... They're talking about that in the context of other cryptocurrencies that are not stablecoins. And stablecoins absolutely 100% will flip Bitcoin and become the largest market cap ...”

Landy1:16:56Share on X

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