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Episode · Jun 20, 2024 ·

ATC: DAVE & KOOL TALK ALL THINGS CRYPTO. SEC LAWYER joins us

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Summary

0:01:54

Certik Kraken Extortion Drama

Dave opened with welcomes and an intro for guest ALEX DAMSKER. The group discussed the story of Certik allegedly trying to extort Kraken for three million dollars after an exploit. ALEX DAMSKER explained risks from decentralized dev teams planting backdoors and called for mandatory independent security audits, with liability for auditors. Dave and ALEX DAMSKER agreed developers should not receive full pay until after the first independent audit.

0:01:54Welcomes and housekeeping as hosts and regulars join the stage

0:05:54Opening monologue previews the guest, Michael Saylor buying Bitcoin

0:28:32

Politics Crypto Regulation and Howey

Kool raised the Winklevoss twins donating two million dollars to the Trump campaign. ALEX DAMSKER said companies usually donate to both sides to keep influence and warned that openly picking one side risks isolation if that side loses. NatNat asked about ongoing SEC lawsuits, and ALEX DAMSKER explained tokens as shifting assets that defy static regulations like the Howey test. ALEX DAMSKER analyzed FIT 21 as poorly written but noted the current window for the industry to draft its own bill.

0:35:03The Ethereum decision

0:42:43Staking, DeFi liquidity pools, and the securities questions around lending

0:45:34Possible changes to the Howey test

Moments0:28:32
0:51:44

Washington Shift and Lobbying Ideas

Dave asked if Washington has turned more pro crypto after seeing fundraising power and reduced attacks from politicians like Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren. ALEX DAMSKER expressed hope for the current window before the election while voicing distrust of politicians and noting manipulated inflation data. Kool highlighted one hundred sixty six million dollars raised by crypto PACs and crypto Twitter influence but criticized years of industry infighting. ALEX DAMSKER supported creating a community funded lobbying DAO, possibly via an onboarding coin with a tiny trade tax.

0:57:59Crypto PAC money

1:09:39

Wealth Gap and Banking History

Dave and ALEX DAMSKER criticized accredited investor rules as arbitrary and a key driver of the wealth gap since they block most people from private investments while allowing lottery spending. ALEX DAMSKER discussed banking law history and carve outs plus the Silicon Valley Bank collapse. A speaker shared an early story about Bitcoin custody and oversight as a non accredited investment.

1:37:05

Giveaways and Airdrop Warnings

Kool announced a giveaway of two Stacks Invaders NFTs. Dave warned about the flood of new meme tokens on Stacks and urged vigilance.

1:43:16Unknown airdropped tokens in wallets and why not to interact with them

Moments1:37:05

Key quotes

“without oversight and liability, it doesn't really mean anything.”

AALEX DAMSKER0:22:37Share on X

“We don't have extra people to, like, hate.”

AALEX DAMSKER0:30:04Share on X

“Because none of them understand this core truth, which is that this is a shifting asset.”

AALEX DAMSKER0:39:40Share on X

“Now here, look. We have a window. Right? While they're fighting over bills, this is where we all need to be uniting and writing our own bill and getting it passed through both houses.”

AALEX DAMSKER0:46:28Share on X

“this industry, it's fascinating. It might be small, but it's very, very loud.”

Kool0:57:59Share on X

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