0:21:34 Dave @DCBK2LA (speaker unconfirmed): So this... I was act... This is what I was gonna bring up because I was actually recently talking to, I think it was a few weeks, maybe a month ago. I was talking to the CoinFabric team. And the CoinFabric team is a great... I... Obviously, they're doing a lot of the auditing in the stacks ecosystem for a lot of these Clarity smart contracts. And when I was talking with them, she... Luisa, like, their their their…

0:22:37 ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker (speaker unconfirmed): Well, the problem is who's doing that, and could they be part of the team of people who are also doing the hack? So the the truth is, like, without oversight and liability, it doesn't really mean anything. I mean, what I think is, the developers shouldn't be paid until the first audit happens. Like, they should do the code, and maybe they're paid a part of their fee, But, like, they don't get the rest of the tokens…

0:24:42 Dave @DCBK2LA (speaker unconfirmed): Well said. I was trying to queue this thing up, man, but I couldn't get it up in time. But I was I was gonna play as his stepbrothers do. We just become best friends because I think you and Shi Samurai literally just became totally... Like, total best friends in that very exchange. Shi Samurai, welcome. It's great to have you on stage. How are you?