NatNat reported multiple project accounts, including Mechanic, were hacked over the weekend and used to promote pump.fun rugs. MetaBeast called out the founders for staying silent and vowed to expose anyone involved, saying he had gathered team names, locations and VPN data. Dave agreed the bear market is bringing out desperate scams and said it makes the space hard to trust.
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Moni explained the WSJ story on Polymarket paying creators for fake bet slips stems from its crypto native roots and could hurt its IPO path. Shaksi said outright lies cross the line, even if some advertising exaggeration is tolerated. Dave, Moni, NatNat and Kool discussed whether Kalshi commissioned the story amid IPO wars, noting Kalshi's 22B valuation and that the rivalry will likely intensify before both potentially go public.
0:12:14World Cup, France-Iraq, Messi's records, GMPM
Shaksi questioned if prediction markets are just gambling that could wreck society and become irrelevant in five years. Kkoma compared valuations to DraftKings and FanDuel, noting two sided liquidity, and said bigger betting brands may launch sub brands or partnerships. Moni highlighted untapped AI data opportunities from prediction markets, while guest Karmic stressed they are not gambling, argued for stablecoins, AI tools and global growth, including in China, where gambling is banned.
Kool picked Argentina, while Moni leaned that way, citing Messi's US experience. NatNat rooted for underdogs and Karmic chose France. The group debated FIFA hydration breaks, with Karmic saying they create more goals and rhythm for better entertainment and prediction volume, while Kool and Shaksi called them corporate ad breaks that fans and players hate and that ruin the game's flow.
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MetaBeast discussed SpaceX IPO price action, Nasdaq 100 inclusion and upcoming unlocks. He explained BTC currently sells off harder than equities due to broken monthly structure and risk asset status, but correlation could return if BTC sets a macro low and builds higher lows.
MetaBeast and others riffed satirically on XRP, Galactic Federation, QAnon and lizard people. Moni noted Ethereum Foundation departures and the new EAT Labs, while Dave said PumpFun making more revenue than Ethereum is a problem. Moni and NatNat covered EU MiCA rules, with OKX staying live via full licensing, its ICE joint venture and only 210 of 1200 crypto firms authorized so far.
“the whole story was ultimately they were paying creators that were literally putting up fake slips”
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“One case against it potentially is because prediction markets requires both sides, the”
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“etc. To me, the market I'm most interested with is the Chinese market. Why? Because gambling”
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“1200 plus previously registered crypto firms in the EU, only 210 have authorization or fully compliant.”
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“like Solana Labs, you know, probably. Yeah, when, when, when PumpFund continuously makes”
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