NatNat apologized after the first Space rugged mid discussion. Moni said there could be three or four big AI players including SpaceX, Anthropic, Google, and potentially Microsoft with OpenAI. Milo noted Microsoft lacks enough cash to buy OpenAI outright at one trillion seven hundred billion while NatNat suggested it could involve stock and structured deals.
0:01:06DocNooNoo joins
NatNat and Moni discussed heavy investment from Tesla, Google, and Amazon into robotics, drones, and robotaxis with acceleration faster than past innovation cycles. Ryan highlighted Tesla ramping Optimus to ten thousand units per week within twenty four months and pointed out Xtend Robotics as a name to watch. NatNat warned on dilution risks for early robotic stocks.
0:05:29Physical AI
NatNat stressed charts still matter for entry timing to avoid large drawdowns and explained how mispriced LEAPS like those on TLT can deliver huge gains from small underlying moves. Milo and Ryan explored variations like selling portions on doubles then holding or writing covered calls.
0:11:12Building robotics positions with LEAPS
Wolf described OpenAI as bleeding money from massive compute spends that failed to yield expected leaps and said apps and ads have not saved it. Wolf predicted that without further investment OpenAI could go bankrupt and Microsoft might acquire it cheaply as a distressed asset given their existing stake rather than pay huge IPO valuations. NatNat noted this view contrasts with IPO success expectations.
0:20:19Microsoft's Windows cash cow
NatNat said it is smart to examine both the bullish IPO path for OpenAI and risks like delays or failure that could hurt Microsoft temporarily. Wolf introduced the term physical intelligence for robotics themes. NatNat wrapped by noting AI sits at an interesting crossroads with Anthropic IPO ahead and encouraged watching for common ground between supporters and skeptics.
0:31:21Close
“But I do agree. You can't have 10 players. Right? You're gonna have three, maybe four big players. And so I think the Microsoft prediction makes sense.”
Moni0:03:27Share on X
“Yeah. So, if you listen to the Tesla, earnings call, Elon is ramping things up. He's gonna... They're, like, they're basically going to be full production capacity, 10,000 optimists per week, within the next twenty four months. Like, crazy numbers. Right? So just keep in mind, guys. Like, I know everybody wants to…”
Ryan0:08:55Share on X
“So the beautiful thing about leaves is that some some of them are mis priced. So if you if you enter some of those positions... So, like, one... Let's say, for example, on this particular asset, once they have the twenty twenty nine option contracts available, if you enter one that's mispriced, one option that's…”
NatNat0:16:11Share on X
“With... Without acquisition, I I do think so. They're they're bleeding so much money. I mean, that's why they shut down the whole thing because they were losing massive amounts of everything. And, like, they they were spending so much on hard work because, like, their whole thing is they believe that building a…”
WWolf0:22:33Share on X
“Yeah. Great space. I just wish that I could have been more But, yeah, it's really good stuff, and I I think it's really interesting. And what's gonna go forward, I think it's really cool. And earlier when you're talking about robotics, I just wanna throw this one out there. There's a company or, like, a a fun robo…”
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