0:49:31 Kkoma @itskkoma: how it's not it's not

0:49:31 Chai @chai_lens: a business model, Doesn't have a good business model. It's not capturing, it's not capturing value. You know, l twos are killing Ethereum, stuff like that. And, you know, I just wanted to hear your guys' takes on that, on on Ethereum in general, what it might be used for in the future that you're talking about where DeFi, TradFi are more merged, which I do think is is gonna happen for many reasons. Right? But…

0:50:42 Dave @DCBK2LA: Hey, Zeno. Good to chat with you. I'm the host. Yeah. I mean, it's not genuinely where we are in terms of, like... I appreciate the question, but DeFi and and and DeFi's future, I don't know if if anybody wants to take it, feel free. But... Yeah. I mean, we we were kinda talking about the Fannie and Freddie news. I don't know if you were by your phone, but do you have a take on the Fannie and Freddie stuff?