1:12:34 Matt Carano @matthewcarano: don't have a token, we would be top 40, top 50. The reason why we're revenue positive is because ecosystems have this problem that they can't solve on their own, so they pay us to go and find great projects to deploy on their chains. They pay us. So that's why, yeah, projects don't need to. Like I said, no equity, no fees, nothing. The ecosystems cover it.

1:12:59 Dave @DCBK2LA: Matt, I'm gonna need you to backdate all these points. I'm gonna send you a whole list of the spaces that we've been running here because ATC has been running at least almost, like, a year now. I got another one that's been running two years. You know, do you backdate?

1:13:13 Matt Carano @matthewcarano: Nope. For you, I will, Dave.