0:23:07 Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah.

0:23:07 ALEX DAMSKER @AlexDamsker: And, interestingly, he's only one of three developers. So, I mean, it kinda sucks, that he's taking the fall for this. But, so the way criminal intent works, that's different from from the way civil civil liability works. So civil liability doesn't really have anything to do with what you meant to happen. It's really did you cause the thing that happened. Right? Is what you did, whether you meant it to or not…

0:26:17 Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. No. That's clear. That... That's... I mean, what what's not clear is how do you determine what tornado cache is, right, like, from a privacy perspective? And we don't gotta get into this now, but I'm just saying, like, just throwing it out there. It's like, how do we... Like, that's such a hard thing. And and and Roman was convicted, on the lesser charges, if I remember correctly. So, like, he didn't... And…