0:36:18 Landy @CryptoLandy: I mean, if you just look at the exchange reserves for Ethereum, they're down. And when... It's down because they're accumulating. They're accumulating because they're building on it themselves. And Ethereum layer twos are really where it's at for a lot of these large institutional players, and they are then going and accumulating other assets. You are correct. But look at Bill Doe, not Bill Doe, but you can look at…

0:38:01 Dave @DCBK2LA: Are people just too close minded right now, right, when they're seeing... When we talk about, like, this layer two, like, cannibalizing layer one, but it's like, one doesn't exist without the other. But it's like, does the Ethereum foundation have to make, like, that kind of money? Like, do they have to continuously make... Like, because it's, like, it's almost like you've created so much utility for the chain. Now…

0:38:47 Landy @CryptoLandy: I wanna I wanna give you my perspective. I wanna hear Cole's take on this too because I I agree with you. It it... There's actually two takes on Ethereum right now. There's the Bitcoiner take, and there's some very prominent Bitcoiners that that were right about Ethereum all the way through. And and and I I actually do, they're not maxis, but they're pretty close to being maxis. One of the things is is, you know…